Forum logs for 23 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/unii-sunt-putin-luati-da-altii-saracii-sunt-luati-rau-de-tot-mai-frate/ [00:07]
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[]bot Bet created: "Apple stock to close at over $100 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/956/ [00:11]
[]bot Bet created: "Facebook stock to close at over $70 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/957/ [00:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6350 @ 0.00086276 = 5.4785 BTC [-] [00:14]
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Namworld Apple stock at 100? Was there a split or did it drop a lot? I think it was around 500-800 not long ago. [00:15]
mthreat split 7-to-1 [00:15]
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[]bot Bet created: "Haruki Murakami to win lit Nobel" http://bitbet.us/bet/958/ [00:17]
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mthreat mircea_popescu: have you managed to find good pizza in this town? [00:35]
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mircea_popescu mthreat american good pizza or romanian good pizza ? [00:36]
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mthreat mircea_popescu: what would be considered good in italy or germany. I've never had romanian pizza [00:37]
mthreat #1, HAS tomato sauce [00:37]
mircea_popescu it's kjinda it's own thing. imo better than italian. [00:37]
mthreat here it's mostly bread and cheese [00:37]
mircea_popescu anyway, trained girlz, can make it. i care not for the city :D [00:37]
mthreat magic [00:38]
mircea_popescu but yes, tomatoes, definitely, and mushroom,s and artichoke hearts and anchovies and so on [00:38]
punkman mircea_popescu: let there be blog http://extemporized.com/ << yours ? << yes [00:40]
assbot extemporized [00:40]
punkman I think I should make a special feed for penguin though [00:40]
mircea_popescu seems it picks it up jus' fine [00:41]
punkman lest there be two dozen recipes posted one day [00:41]
punkman did nubbins have a blog, or am I remembering some other sausage-blog [00:42]
mircea_popescu nubsy is a contrarian. he doesn't have altcoins, he doesn't have blogs, he goes his own way damneit@! [00:43]
mthreat There was this romanian restaurant in Austin. It was called "Dracula". [00:49]
[]bot Bet created: "Anyone other than Messi/Ronaldo/Suarez to win the 2014 FIFA Ballon d'Or" http://bitbet.us/bet/959/ [00:50]
mircea_popescu surprisingly. [00:52]
punkman so once upon the time I was a math student, but then I forgot everything, and now I'm looking for a couple of good books. I found this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/0486409163/ . Any other suggestions? [00:53]
assbot Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (Dover Books on Mathematics): A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrentev, Mathematics: 9780486409160: Amazon.com: Books [00:53]
punkman "upon the time" ftw [00:53]
punkman feeling russian [00:53]
mircea_popescu punkman L.D.Landau and E.M.Leifshitz. all the math one could ever want. [00:53]
mircea_popescu if it doesn't DO something it's not math anyway. [00:54]
asciilifeform punkman: 'All the Mathematics You Missed' (Garrity) if impatient/american [00:54]
asciilifeform punkman: otherwise what mircea_popescu said [00:54]
mircea_popescu wow someone agrees ?! [00:54]
mircea_popescu i thought that's like, my most heretic view. [00:55]
asciilifeform the 'content methods & meaning' by dover is a pretty fine encyclopaedic text [00:55]
asciilifeform i especially liked the 'obsolete' chapter on mechanical computers [00:55]
asciilifeform also ask yourself, which mathematics [00:55]
punkman this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_of_Theoretical_Physics ? [00:56]
assbot Course of Theoretical Physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [00:56]
asciilifeform l&l is geared to methods of theoretical physics (landau's famous 'minimum' exam) [00:56]
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asciilifeform punkman: a good refresher text on discrete maths / computability /etc. is hopcroft & ullman [01:01]
asciilifeform http://faraday.fie.umich.mx/~rrusiles/Fie/Horizontal/Hopcroft_Introduction_to_Automata_Theory_Languages_and_Computation.pdf [01:01]
asciilifeform ^ unfortunately not the edition with the hot chick on the cover [01:01]
asciilifeform but full text [01:01]
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punkman mircea_popescu: probably publishable as a paper if you can be bothered to run in that threadmill << not a big fan of academics, but I can blag it now [01:07]
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punkman I was looking at a few interesting papers from this guy the other day http://dpennock.com/ [01:08]
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thestringpuller punkman: bitbet.py is dope [01:14]
Mats_cd03 http://econbrowser.com/archives/2014/06/iraq-oil-markets-and-the-u-s-economy [01:14]
assbot Iraq, oil markets, and the U.S. economy | Econbrowser [01:14]
thestringpuller I'll have to see how you did colorization [01:14]
Mats_cd03 and... http://www.sfgate.com/business/networth/article/3-reasons-Iraq-conflict-isn-t-driving-up-gas-5569945.php [01:15]
assbot 3 reasons Iraq conflict isn't driving up gas prices (yet) - SFGate [01:15]
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mircea_popescu punkman that is a point [01:24]
mircea_popescu by now the research paper journals are little more than blogs anyway. [01:24]
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mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 5 reasons why losing 10 years' investment in iraq isn't a disaster, 5 reason why higher inflation isn't higher inflation, 5 reasons why the failure of each and every obamapolicy isn't a failure of the left, or of blacks, or of the electoral system, or of the general public, [01:26]
mircea_popescu on it goes. 5 reasons why fucking up is okay and starvation isn't imminent. [01:26]
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thestringpuller 5 conspiracy theories that are actually real [01:35]
thestringpuller more at 11 [01:35]
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punkman heh "JOSS defaults to cooperation on the first turn, and thereafter mirrors its partner's previous move, except after its partner cooperates, JOSS defects with some probability to see what it can get away with every once in a while." [01:44]
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decimation thanks for the book asciilifeform [02:12]
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BingoBoingo %diff [02:49]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 450695.27 in 113 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -37.00 [02:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33260 @ 0.00084838 = 28.2171 BTC [-] {2} [02:52]
punkman BingoBoingo: we need like 220 blocks a day for that bet [02:52]
BingoBoingo punkman: Yeah, it's going to be tricky. Wonder how much hash is going to arrive after the diff change [02:53]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 24 * 3600 / 512 [02:54]
gribble 168.75 [02:54]
punkman so we must be doing like 100 a day now? [02:55]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 168.75 * .63 [02:55]
gribble 106.3125 [02:55]
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punkman mircea_popescu: about that simulation, there are 20 bots, they meet everyone else 5 times and play for N rounds each time they meet, after each round there's a 0.995 probability they will stop. [03:00]
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mircea_popescu so make 400 bots, 20 of each type, meet everyone 500 times and play for n where the probability is .95 [03:01]
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Mats_cd03 mircea_popescu: forgot the '(yet)'. [03:01]
mircea_popescu 0.995 is bullshit, 200 rounds average ? wtf. [03:01]
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mircea_popescu but, importantly, give them ego. [03:01]
punkman if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it [03:02]
Mats_cd03 ;;bc,stats [03:02]
gribble Current Blocks: 307282 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1165 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 47 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16351547351.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.45924 [03:02]
mircea_popescu let's. [03:02]
punkman examples: https://github.com/tscizzle/IPD_Morality/blob/master/the_bots.py [03:02]
assbot IPD_Morality/the_bots.py at master tscizzle/IPD_Morality GitHub [03:02]
mircea_popescu specifically : a) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent played against each other bot. this is fixed for the respective bot. [03:02]
mircea_popescu b) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent player against each bot of their type [03:03]
mircea_popescu c) each bot has idem 0 to 20 of their type and also 0 to 5 of all types. [03:03]
mircea_popescu all bots know the adversary's hitory with themselves [03:03]
mircea_popescu now, on this information, each both has an ego, defined as the balance between the weight they give their own history vs the collected world history [03:04]
mircea_popescu a bot that takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against the world has average ego. [03:05]
mircea_popescu the bot that only cares of its own history has max, and the bot that ignores its own has min. [03:05]
mircea_popescu these are also per-bot factors [03:05]
mircea_popescu then let them play. [03:05]
asciilifeform just one thing missing here [03:06]
asciilifeform what's a tourney without... a prize. [03:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the prize is their life. [03:06]
asciilifeform lol [03:06]
Mats_cd03 lol. [03:06]
punkman they get bigger number when they win [03:06]
punkman they like number [03:06]
mircea_popescu lol [03:06]
mircea_popescu and srlsly, ditch the dumbass "total wot score" model they use [03:07]
mircea_popescu just count betrayals. [03:07]
mircea_popescu how people pretending to be in math and philosophy can be this fucking dumb is beyond me. [03:07]
mircea_popescu next they're going to count the holes in the mains socket to get the voltage. [03:07]
punkman the bots only know past moves during the current round as it is [03:08]
mircea_popescu yes but from what i've seen, as a sum [03:08]
mircea_popescu not as the all-crucial "he y'd you you n'd him" [03:08]
punkman no it's a list of all previous moves [03:08]
mircea_popescu a is it ? [03:09]
mircea_popescu that's ok then [03:09]
punkman (in the current round) [03:09]
punkman no knowledge about world/environment [03:09]
mircea_popescu not necessarily a bad thing, unless im having a brain fart [03:09]
mircea_popescu you run a bunch of worlds instead of just one [03:10]
mircea_popescu After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class was laid on for stu [03:11]
mircea_popescu dents to learn this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming the previous term. It was a battle to get the students to do this, not least because two senior lecturers criticised the exercise as presenting too much of a challenge to the students. [03:11]
punkman " should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order to make a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account." [03:13]
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punkman "TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy." [03:13]
mircea_popescu moves can be used as a ticker [03:14]
mircea_popescu todo seems spurious. [03:14]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: other screeds by tarver: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog [03:21]
assbot Popular Essays [03:21]
mircea_popescu If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content. [03:21]
mircea_popescu i actually read this before. [03:21]
punkman I'm gonna call the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant [03:22]
punkman *fork [03:22]
asciilifeform ^ tarver does not shit gold, not all necessarily worth reading [03:22]
mircea_popescu punkman not bad. ICBE [03:22]
mircea_popescu soon you'll get investors. [03:22]
punkman from Hofstadter: "Two people meet and exchange closed bags, with the understanding that one of them contains money, and the other contains a purchase. Either player can choose to honor the deal by putting into his or her bag what he or she agreed, or he or she can defect by handing over an empty bag." [03:22]
mircea_popescu punkman actually, this could have a direct application. let people back the bots, buy shares. [03:23]
punkman yeah it's not that hard to come up with a simple bot and enter the tournament [03:23]
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mircea_popescu punkman for that matter, let people handpick lol [03:24]
mircea_popescu human bot impersonators, that's epic [03:24]
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mircea_popescu hat we now have in academia is a situation where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. In short they are living a lie. [03:25]
mircea_popescu this, quite very much. [03:25]
mircea_popescu western women aspire to the respect of men, while living their western lives ?! lolk. [03:25]
mircea_popescu i'd rather respect indian hajira. [03:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.05201126 = 1.9764 BTC [+] [03:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05201145 = 0.5201 BTC [+] [03:31]
asciilifeform from the loltraps: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/02/a-reader-writes-of-his-experience-among-the-dark-enlightenment-types.html [03:31]
assbot A Reader Writes of his Experience Among the Dark Enlightenment Types [03:31]
mircea_popescu "et in arcadia ego" dumbass. [03:32]
asciilifeform shoddy troll is shoddy, 'longcat is long,' news at 11 [03:33]
mircea_popescu no dude. legolas, definiely legit. [03:34]
mircea_popescu - I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I don’t know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thor’s Hammer on it. [03:34]
mircea_popescu should be on reddit. [03:34]
asciilifeform (some weirdo actually sent me the link) [03:34]
mircea_popescu " The Dark Enlightenment allegedly has millions of dollars of money to play with." [03:35]
mircea_popescu orly. [03:35]
mircea_popescu what, like almost 1k btc ? [03:35]
asciilifeform i think that was meant to imply mr. thiel [03:35]
mircea_popescu Different forms of formal attire were required for each day (tuxedos, 3-piece suits, etc) [03:35]
mircea_popescu dude! [03:35]
mircea_popescu ah this is great lol [03:35]
asciilifeform ('island' - obvious tipoff) [03:35]
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mircea_popescu "For the initial oath taking, everyone must swear on a copy of Darwin’s Origin of Species, just to show their fidelity to HBD" [03:36]
asciilifeform (thiel actually exists, is said to hang out with 'moldbuggerers') [03:36]
mircea_popescu ahgagaga wait, wait what [03:36]
punkman I put on my robe and wizard hat [03:37]
mircea_popescu i keep waiting for the biscuit already [03:37]
mircea_popescu they're doing the sweaing on the ilyad and drinking out of specially made pornoi cups [03:37]
mircea_popescu - They also have all their own secret handshakes, and their own terminology [like the Cathedral ("political correctness"), thedening ("re-establishing ethnic group identity"), genophilia ("love of one's own race"), NRx ("neoreaction"), etc.]. [03:37]
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mircea_popescu well i guess we gotta ipo it now [03:38]
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mircea_popescu "But of course, cannibalism is not PC either and embracing something simply and solely on the basis that it is a “reaction” is one of the stupidest things humans can do. You can’t build a life on protest and reaction." <<< ahahaha [03:38]
mircea_popescu the entire fucking left is built on reaction, from the 60s onwards. [03:39]
mircea_popescu i would guess that yeah, you can't. [03:39]
BingoBoingo %ticker [03:43]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222 [03:43]
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BingoBoingo %bok [03:43]
BingoBoingo %b [03:43]
BingoBoingo %book [03:43]
atcbot 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160 [03:43]
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moiety i sensed biscuits. i should have an IPO of bear biscuits [03:44]
mircea_popescu moiety you can't possibly be privy to what i meant by biscuits ?! [03:44]
moiety i don't think i am at all [03:44]
moiety hence my leaps to shortbread in bear form [03:45]
mircea_popescu ah yeah. [03:45]
mircea_popescu ;;google cum biscuit [03:46]
gribble Soggy biscuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Urban Dictionary: cum biscuit: ; Urban Dictionary: soggy biscuit: [03:46]
moiety oh! [03:46]
moiety well then, i'll be shutting up now [03:46]
mircea_popescu lol [03:46]
mircea_popescu anyway, lulzy this thing. guy builds a nice strawman, knocks it down, thanks god for disqus nobody's gonna bother him that way. [03:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.0008496 = 4.5454 BTC [+] [03:47]
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BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [03:59]
gribble Current Blocks: 307288 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1159 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16357998925.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.50716 [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0008431 = 34.82 BTC [-] {3} [03:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.05037493 = 2.1157 BTC [-] {9} [04:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.04647775 = 2.9281 BTC [-] {14} [04:03]
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moiety !up chax [04:05]
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moiety hello [04:05]
chax Howdy! [04:05]
moiety :] what brings you here? [04:06]
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moiety lol kbai [04:07]
benkay chax is working on a bitcoin-api-as-a-service thinger [04:07]
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moiety !up chax thought i scared you there XD [04:08]
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moiety thanks benkay [04:08]
benkay hey chax [04:10]
benkay slow sunday? [04:10]
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Mats_cd03 :( [04:14]
benkay such connection issues... [04:14]
benkay and from a SaaS vendor rep... [04:14]
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Mats_cd03 that title seems premature [04:16]
Mats_cd03 is this the guy whos bsaas project was on hn front page today [04:16]
benkay wallet api? [04:17]
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benkay nah [04:17]
benkay don't think so [04:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04105652 = 0.9443 BTC [-] {7} [04:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04056994 = 0.6085 BTC [-] [04:34]
moiety i feel chax's pain, this mobile broadband life is irritating the hell out of me. mbb and gribble dont get along [04:35]
moiety have to release my nick and re-auth every other hour [04:36]
benkay miserable. [04:37]
kakobrekla bnc [04:37]
Mats_cd03 use a bouncer. [04:37]
Mats_cd03 or , if you are lazy like me , pay for the privilege -> irccloud [04:38]
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kakobrekla yeah, you also get a nice free nsa backups with that [04:41]
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mircea_popescu !up Yoko__ [04:43]
-assbot- You voiced Yoko__ for 30 minutes. [04:43]
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moiety i thoughti had a bouncer built in with this and thats why i didnt timeout, will investigate [04:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.035793 = 1.7897 BTC [-] {6} [04:55]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.035 = 1.505 BTC [-] [05:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00082942 = 8.0039 BTC [-] [05:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.033 = 5.115 BTC [-] {4} [05:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.03283 = 3.283 BTC [-] [05:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00082811 = 20.6199 BTC [-] [05:09]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02200002 = 0.836 BTC [-] {7} [05:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.022 = 1.122 BTC [-] {4} [05:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.02131429 = 0.746 BTC [-] {2} [05:14]
thestringpuller ;;ud cray [05:14]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray | No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets people going. [05:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.02775205 = 0.7771 BTC [-] {9} [05:15]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: when I see OIX on mpex website still, makes me hope the options market comes back one day :( [05:21]
mircea_popescu maybe. [05:21]
thestringpuller maybe is better than never lol [05:22]
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benkay gotta have a price signal first [05:36]
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thestringpuller should just open up an exchange in antarctica [05:42]
thestringpuller or on the moon [05:43]
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moiety i just saw a gribble for the first time! quite cute actually [05:54]
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Mats_cd03 http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Gribble-aka-Limnoria-quadripunctata.jpg [05:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081766 = 13.0826 BTC [-] [06:02]
benkay tardigrade, but close [06:03]
benkay tardi gribble [06:03]
benkay late bots [06:03]
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moiety ergh! Mats_cd03! ok so maybe not that one, he looks angry! imeant this one http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01247/gribble_1247958c.jpg [06:13]
moiety !up extra [06:14]
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moiety !up pennies [06:14]
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moiety !up Lycerion [06:14]
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extra thanks [06:14]
pennies thank you [06:14]
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moiety you're welcome :] [06:14]
Lycerion thanks [06:14]
moiety np :] welcome to -assets? [06:15]
moiety assets* [06:15]
moiety what do you do? [06:16]
extra mostly lose money trading [06:17]
benkay !b 2 [06:18]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/09JVD4A.txt ) [06:18]
benkay ;;gettrust extra [06:19]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user extra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=extra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=extra | Rated since: never [06:19]
pennies so what is this place? [06:19]
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benkay a house of ill repute [06:19]
pennies i want to be apart of this lovely place [06:19]
pennies i am a seeker of lovely places [06:19]
benkay ;;ident pennies [06:20]
gribble Nick 'pennies', with hostmask 'pennies!423790bb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.55.144.187', is not identified. [06:20]
benkay i don't think apart means what you think it means, pennies [06:20]
pennies why? [06:21]
benkay well if one is apart from a thing one is not a part of it [06:21]
benkay ;;google define apart [06:21]
gribble Apart | Define Apart at Dictionary.com: ; Apart - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: ; Apart from - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: [06:21]
benkay to or at one side, with respect to place, purpose, or function: to put money apart for education; to keep apart from the group out of pride. [06:22]
benkay but if you want to hang around, you both need to get into the web of trust [06:22]
benkay ;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust [06:23]
gribble #bitcoin-otc web of trust: ; #bitcoin-otc: ; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: [06:23]
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pennies i feel unwanted [06:26]
Mats_cd03 benkay is a semantic asshole, don't take it personally [06:29]
benkay http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mashed-potato-spillage-closes-yorkshire-road-for-five-hours-9554812.html [06:29]
assbot Mashed potato spillage closes Yorkshire road for five hours - Home News - UK - The Independent [06:29]
benkay well pennies why would anyone want you? [06:29]
benkay gotta d that h v [06:29]
Mats_cd03 moiety: heh [06:30]
moiety lol extra [06:31]
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extra sup moiety [06:31]
benkay semantic asshole [06:31]
moiety how do people find here without knowing what it is [06:32]
moiety or looking at topics [06:32]
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extra who says I didn't read the topic [06:32]
moiety not you extra, i meant pennies [06:32]
moiety !up chax [06:32]
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extra pennies is just a retard [06:33]
extra but we love him [06:33]
moiety welcome back chax [06:33]
moiety oh you all know each other? how so? [06:33]
extra random btc trading channels [06:33]
Mats_cd03 what do i look like? a poet? shit [06:33]
moiety lmao at the mashed potato benkay, reminds me of the overflowing pizza dough [06:34]
benkay Mats_cd03: wouldja put that in my rating pplease? "semantic asshole" [06:34]
benkay i thought you'd appreciate that moiety [06:35]
Mats_cd03 as it is in heaven [06:35]
moiety well extra this is the most useful channel in bitcoinland, the logs are a good place to begin :] [06:38]
moiety i did benkay :D [06:38]
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moiety also updated guide is in the wiki [06:41]
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moiety hi peterl [06:42]
peterl hi moiety and everybody [06:42]
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benkay how've you been sir [06:44]
benkay !up extra [06:44]
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moiety kakobrekla, Mats_cd03 .. is psyBNC ok enough to use? [06:45]
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moiety !up Lycerion [06:45]
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nubbins` pbbt [06:45]
thestringpuller nubbins`: what's da stats on dat shirt [06:45]
benkay oh holy hell logsearch is great [06:46]
thestringpuller no rush [06:46]
thestringpuller is it still too late to get trackign added? [06:46]
mthreat benkay: thanks! [06:46]
thestringpuller yea mthreat gangsta shit [06:46]
benkay mthreat: mostly 'cause you put my name on the front [06:46]
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mthreat oldest trick in the book [06:46]
benkay ;;rate mthreat 1 knows who to pay off [06:47]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1. [06:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.0008182 = 3.5093 BTC [+] [06:47]
Mats_cd03 got bored, thought I'd read last year's logs from this day [06:48]
Mats_cd03 bitcoin935:voorhees can pay me for my shares im even considering flying out to panama where violence is a way of life [06:48]
Mats_cd03 bitcoin935:voorhees is going to get whats coming to him [06:48]
Mats_cd03 where is your god now [06:48]
thestringpuller HOLY SHIT [06:48]
thestringpuller that's funny as fuck [06:48]
mthreat benkay: I'm noticing from the log - it looks like "from: username" isn't being parsed right, remove the space to make it work right [06:49]
mthreat (from the http log, i mean) [06:49]
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mthreat or really just searching for 'username' with no field specifier will work because I put the irc nick in the default search field [06:50]
benkay yeah that's weird [06:50]
benkay glad that shit's not my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D [06:50]
thestringpuller lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money... [06:50]
thestringpuller lol [06:50]
Mats_cd03 moiety: ya i have heard good things about it [06:50]
thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#97671 << dayyumn [06:53]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [06:53]
dub didn't it hit close to 5? [06:54]
benkay no but don't get me wrong mthreat - it's awesome and i'm quite thrilled to have it [06:54]
thestringpuller lol...history...fuck...gettin' old [06:55]
benkay but from's behavior is totally weird [06:55]
Mats_cd03 meanwhile goat brags about 4M in fiat to random [06:56]
Mats_cd03 cute [06:56]
mthreat benkay: you mean the fact that "from: username" doesn't parse right? [06:57]
thestringpuller whatever happened to goat? Do I have to just read or can someone give me tl;dr ? [06:57]
nubbins` not sure [06:58]
Namworld He's living the good life in thailand I think [06:58]
nubbins` still on the forums [06:58]
Mats_cd03 ;;seen chaang-noi [06:58]
gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: might have to sue em [06:58]
thestringpuller i'd always call him the king of thailand and he would always say not to joke about that because they'd kill him if they caught someone calling him that... [06:58]
Namworld Pops around ever other month [06:58]
Mats_cd03 lol. [06:58]
thestringpuller http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2013#196389 << LOL! [06:59]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [06:59]
benkay http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#96976 [06:59]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [06:59]
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Mats_cd03 what kind of gullible fuck pays to bang a virgin? [07:04]
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joecool do you really have to ask [07:05]
Mats_cd03 bet the guy spends his time bragging about how famous he is in the bitcoin community [07:06]
Mats_cd03 to naked minors in some whorehouse [07:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.04132944 = 1.8598 BTC [-] {9} [07:07]
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thestringpuller nubbins`: what do you mean by still on the forums? [07:09]
nubbins` still active there [07:10]
thestringpuller as for the stats of the shirts? [07:10]
thestringpuller is the forums? [07:10]
Mats_cd03 Chaang-Noi:we are not 1005 sure what pirate did was fruad [07:10]
thestringpuller lol i iz confused... [07:10]
Mats_cd03 Chaang-Noi:some claim it to be a ponzi [07:10]
nubbins` sorry, i was talking about goat [07:10]
Mats_cd03 Chaang-Noi:but no proff [07:10]
thestringpuller Oh hah I'm reading my logs non linearly in time [07:10]
nubbins` too late to add express shipping, shirt's in the mail ;( [07:11]
thestringpuller kk [07:11]
thestringpuller how long does it usually take to ship into america? [07:11]
Mats_cd03 Chaang-Noi:and he is not in jai [07:11]
nubbins` i added an extra in yours and danielpbarron's packages [07:11]
nubbins` 5-6 business days [07:11]
thestringpuller extra shirt? [07:11]
nubbins` you might get it friday [07:11]
nubbins` extra surprise :D [07:11]
thestringpuller OH BOI! [07:11]
thestringpuller I like surprises. [07:11]
thestringpuller whatever happened to Diablo-D3? Didn't he have some million dollar datacenter idea he would always talk about? [07:12]
nubbins` heh [07:13]
nubbins` ;;seen Diablo-D3 [07:13]
gribble Diablo-D3 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 2 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: like those hilariously large faux horse dildos [07:13]
nubbins` the things people say right before they stop saying things [07:13]
thestringpuller 2 weeks ain't that long ago [07:13]
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thestringpuller LOL [07:14]
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benkay xmj: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [07:29]
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mircea_popescu how do people find here without knowing what it is << personally, i blame you! [07:32]
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moiety mircea_popescu: good blame though right?! lol it's the manuls, not me! >.> [07:39]
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penguirker New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/062214-halfway-difficulty/ [07:49]
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Namworld Hmm, I sent an email out. Got a few replies. Still a lot of people who don't answer. [08:05]
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Namworld Some people just don't want to be repaid, [08:06]
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moiety ;; rate extra 2 #bitcoin-assets voice [08:24]
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moiety don't make me regret that extra :] [08:24]
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extra thanks bb [08:25]
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moiety theres only one BB here XD but np, you obviously read the guides, logs are next. lots to soak in [08:28]
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moiety Namworld: at least you tried :] [08:29]
cazalla little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? [08:29]
moiety you can learn to contribute the more information you are armed with [08:30]
moiety unless epically retarded - those cant be helped [08:30]
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dub heh, -assets doxxes NSA two weeks before snowden [08:31]
moiety ratings aren't set in stone [08:31]
dub http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2013#18961 [08:32]
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cazalla i learn something new here every day moiety but little point parroting it back, a little humbling if anything, just an interesting self observation after being here a while now [08:37]
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moiety i learn a lot i wasn't expecting to cazalla :D youre right it is humbling. i just try to make it up be being useful in whatever way i can be (manuls aside) [08:46]
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moiety hello [08:47]
Namworld I only need to repay 9.04 BTC to people who haven't replied, fortunately. [08:48]
Namworld I also owe 178 BTC to large holders but those replied. [08:49]
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Namworld Getting there slowly. [08:52]
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moiety you're not giving up which is the main thing Namworld :] [09:05]
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benkay bitcoinpete: i'm looking forward to my 10year [19:05]
bitcoinpete this was basically mine [19:05]
bitcoinpete though highly impromptu [19:05]
bitcoinpete it was better for it [19:05]
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bitcoinpete less pretense, less expectation [19:06]
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bitcoinpete more impact [19:06]
benkay gonna rent a trabamborghini [19:06]
mircea_popescu !up _flow_ [19:06]
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benkay and a roflcopter [19:06]
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bitcoinpete is the roflcopter big enough to carry the trambo to the party? [19:07]
mircea_popescu could be a lolbambo [19:07]
mircea_popescu mix everything [19:07]
asciilifeform lulzerati [19:08]
mircea_popescu hahaha [19:08]
mircea_popescu WE ARE TEH LULZERATI [19:08]
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bitcoinpete as long as it's hilariously italian lol [19:08]
mircea_popescu we control the derpitudinal and the herpiginal [19:08]
mircea_popescu or wahs it herpical [19:09]
benkay hm maybe i'll duct tape the trabamborghini to the roflcopter and float to the con [19:09]
benkay although there *is* a dock, i could always take the derpmarine [19:09]
bitcoinpete the lulz that bind should obviate the need for tape [19:09]
mircea_popescu btw i just got a message from the high council of the darkerati legolas of the something or the other, i forget (it was properly inside a dildo impaled in the cloaca of a messenger crow tho, so there's no doubt as to authenticity) [19:10]
mircea_popescu apparently we have to pick our colors for bitcoin-assets [19:10]
mircea_popescu so what we do, pink-and-yellow ? [19:10]
benkay silver and red for maximum migrane factor [19:12]
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mircea_popescu i think that's purple and purple [19:12]
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ThickAsThieves i just logged in to say purple [19:13]
mircea_popescu AHAHA [19:13]
mircea_popescu epic beaten [19:13]
ThickAsThieves we are royalty after all [19:13]
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BingoBoingo http://paulford.kinja.com/wait-we-didnt-have-a-cms-team-1593914473 [19:13]
assbot FOR THE LOVE OF CONTENT MANAGEMENT I AM GOING TO LEARN ABOUT KINJA which apparently has headline limits in length no actually it just has a counter regarding headline length and it's unclear exactly how long headlines can be and if they can be really long or not, but one thing is clear and that is that headlines can't have italics anyway this headline [oh no according to Twitter, which is apparently where you go for Kinja document [19:13]
mircea_popescu speak for yourself. i'm self made. [19:13]
ThickAsThieves gotta be that shade that doesnt exist anymore too [19:13]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves beetlejuice purple ? [19:14]
ThickAsThieves made from the winds of extinct dragonflies or whatever [19:14]
ThickAsThieves wings* [19:14]
mircea_popescu dude, if it were made from the winds... [19:14]
mircea_popescu either farts or wing turbulence. [19:14]
ThickAsThieves lol [19:14]
ThickAsThieves what are your colors? oh, nothing unusual, wind [19:14]
mircea_popescu we sound pretty wicca. [19:14]
BingoBoingo Eh, why not just use a couple thousand shades of purple arranged such that no two splotches have a delta greater than 3 [19:15]
mircea_popescu our colors are wind and that shot of pain urmom felt that one time. [19:15]
BingoBoingo Picking colors I think the priority should be, what would be the biggest pain in nubbins` ass... [19:16]
ThickAsThieves deep blues are the hardest [19:16]
mircea_popescu Mr. Brown: Lemme tell you what 'Like a Virgin' is about. It's all about this cooze who's a regular fuck machine, I'm talking morning, day, night, afternoon, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick. Then one day she meets this John Holmes motherfucker and it's like, whoa baby, I mean this cat is like Charles Bronson in the 'Great Escape', he's digging tunnels. Now, she's gettin' the serious dick action and [19:16]
mircea_popescu she's feeling something she ain't felt since forever. Pain. Pain. It hurts her. It shouldn't hurt her, you know, her pussy should be Bubble Yum by now, but when this cat fucks her it hurts. It hurts just like it did the first time. You see the pain is reminding a fuck machine what it once was like to be a virgin. Hence, 'Like a Virgin'. [19:16]
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ThickAsThieves to get them blue without being purple is hard [19:16]
mircea_popescu cymk process sucks huh. [19:17]
ThickAsThieves yep [19:17]
ThickAsThieves solvent ink has higher gamut [19:17]
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ThickAsThieves and if he screenprints it, any color is easy [19:17]
ThickAsThieves i dont think he does offset [19:17]
ThickAsThieves otherwise [19:18]
ThickAsThieves what's getting printed anyway? [19:18]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: is it still too late to get trackign added? <<< ahahaha no dude, it was too late before, but we've been doing -t for a while so now it's too early [19:18]
mircea_popescu o.O [19:18]
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HeySteve hi mircea_popescu, I'd like to talk about F.DERP now if that's convenient [19:18]
mircea_popescu shoot. [19:19]
HeySteve ok the companies concerned are BitPay and BitGo? [19:19]
mircea_popescu so far, yes. [19:19]
mircea_popescu mthreat http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tits+from%3Amircea+haslink%3Atrue << ok that shit's epic. [19:20]
assbot tits from:mircea haslink:true [19:20]
HeySteve ok from the original post (checking for new ones) I take it the reasoning is that they're overvalued? [19:20]
mircea_popescu well, more properly put, the reasoning is that they will never make in the course of their business enough money to pay back that round of investment. [19:20]
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mircea_popescu so someone with 30mn looking to invest in bitcoin would have been better served by buying bitcoin than participating in the series a. [19:21]
mircea_popescu this, of course, is a very old story : with the exception of mpex listed corps, it is universally true of any other exchange or broad group. [19:21]
mircea_popescu be it glbse or us based vc investments. [19:22]
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HeySteve I don't know much about BitGo honestly, but it seems the success of BitPay is very closely linked with Bitcoin's success. doesn't that make this something of a bet against Bitcoin's continued merchant adoption? [19:22]
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mircea_popescu the success of bitpay has exactly zero to do with the success of bitcoin, is the problem. [19:23]
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mircea_popescu they're trying to leech it, which only works for so long. what's worse, their burn rate is killing them. [19:23]
thestringpuller hahahaha [19:24]
HeySteve ok it sounds like you've taken a very close look into their financials. could you explain what you mean by burn rate? [19:24]
asciilifeform 'bitpay' is to btc use is as 'wine' (winblows emulation gizmo) is to the use of linux. [19:24]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money... << will ? seriously ? show me irc tools that can compare. [19:24]
ThickAsThieves bitpay also has to worry about someone like PayPal coming in "Thanks for warming our seat!" [19:24]
mircea_popescu HeySteve burn rate is a common concept in start-ups [19:25]
mircea_popescu the rate at which they spend money. [19:25]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what if I change will to is? [19:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform aptly put, i would say. [19:25]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller deal. [19:25]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves precisely. no barrier to entry [19:25]
mircea_popescu coinbase is already moving into that, with no difficulty. [19:25]
mircea_popescu of course, coinbase is a piece of shit, but there';s no requirement that next competitor is also a piece of shit [19:25]
HeySteve any plans to add further companies? [19:26]
ThickAsThieves bitpay/coinbase only chance is landing exclusive contracts with poor terms for the merchant (still a leech job) [19:26]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: what kind of gullible fuck pays to bang a virgin? << if you pay to fuck in general, why not. [19:26]
mircea_popescu HeySteve yes, as mentioned in the article. any corps that make bold claims in the future will go in there. [19:27]
Mats_cd03 it'd be boring, thats why. [19:27]
ThickAsThieves this is why they brag and compete over new notable merchants, it's all they have - those contract terms [19:27]
BingoBoingo HeySteve: Bitpay is sponsoring a fucking bowl game. They probably spent ~10% of their last round on a notoriously poor form of advertising. [19:27]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 the guy's own money! he can spend it any old way he wants! [19:27]
Mats_cd03 indeed [19:27]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves a business model based on tricking people isn't a good match for ipo anyway [19:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo forced mistakes. [19:28]
HeySteve BingoBoingo, yeah I saw that... will it at least be seen on national TV? [19:28]
ThickAsThieves i dont mind BitPay though, they are taking one for the team [19:28]
ThickAsThieves go ahead an advertise the shit outta bitcoin [19:28]
ThickAsThieves their loss, our gain [19:28]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i don't mind them either, honestly, but a) people found out about gallippi's past, and generally, the thing's coming apart. gotta cut them loose. [19:28]
BingoBoingo HeySteve: It will be on ESPN with the fifty or so other bowl games that happen in december [19:28]
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HeySteve so is to correct to F.DERP as a hedge fund? [19:30]
mircea_popescu dub:heh, -assets doxxes NSA two weeks before snowden << ain't history a wunderbar thing :D [19:30]
mircea_popescu HeySteve yeah, i suppose it would be. [19:30]
HeySteve right, and BitGo, what is the reasoning behind including them? [19:30]
ThickAsThieves i dunno, it's kinda a sad hedge, being that those companies are relying on bitcoin [19:30]
mircea_popescu bitcoin shit is weird by nature, but hedge fund generally means "this pool of money doing exotic shit" [19:30]
mircea_popescu HeySteve that they announced a 10mn round. from the article : [19:31]
mircea_popescu For everyi Series A / seed funding announced by the circlejerk that is either in excess of 1 million USD or for a company valued through such funding over 100 million USD, I will create a synthetic asset on MPEx. [19:31]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/ [19:31]
assbot Introducing the D. series pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [19:31]
HeySteve ah ha [19:32]
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HeySteve so it's decided purely on their funding? [19:32]
BingoBoingo HeySteve: Here's last year's line up of bowl games. http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls [19:32]
assbot College Bowl Games - 2013-14 College Bowl Game Scores and Schedules - ESPN [19:32]
mircea_popescu cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? << i just try to pretend it's philosophy :D [19:33]
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ThickAsThieves someone needs to make sure these VCs know about your offer, they can haz MOAR BitPay [19:33]
mircea_popescu HeySteve on their alleged funding, yes. [19:33]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves by the set of lawsuit threats i would guess they know. [19:33]
ThickAsThieves nice [19:33]
ThickAsThieves on what grounds? [19:33]
ThickAsThieves you said our name in a thing! [19:33]
mircea_popescu uh... believe it or not, mostly sec regulation [19:33]
ThickAsThieves i see [19:34]
mircea_popescu funny how blinders work, you know ? these people have... finance lawyers. who went to school and lived in a pond [19:34]
mircea_popescu what do you mean this guy could not care less ? that is not possible ? [19:34]
HeySteve well... it seems many startups are raking in king's ransoms just because there's a lot of enthusiasm around Bitcoin... so by shorting, you are risking exposure to these kind of bubbles? [19:34]
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mircea_popescu yes. can you name people that got rich in the dot com bubble ? [19:35]
mircea_popescu name a dozen, then see what % did it by shorting it. [19:35]
HeySteve hmm many got rich then poor in quick succession [19:35]
HeySteve few were wise enough to sell or short at the top [19:35]
mircea_popescu (and i don't mean "were briefly rich during the bubble". i mean "are rich today and were not before that") [19:35]
ThickAsThieves sounds like these bitcoin company CEOs [19:35]
mircea_popescu Namworld: Getting there slowly. << what's your horizon, next year like ? [19:36]
HeySteve I think mostly the guys who sold their companies during the mania made out like bandits [19:36]
HeySteve investors not so much [19:36]
mircea_popescu so the guys who... SHORTED IT [19:36]
ThickAsThieves i dont think the btc startup bubble will be nearly as bad [19:36]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves bet ? [19:36]
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ThickAsThieves in dollars [19:36]
mircea_popescu fu :D [19:37]
HeySteve I hear what you're saying, the art is in the timing [19:37]
ThickAsThieves hehe [19:37]
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ThickAsThieves what i mean is, [19:37]
mircea_popescu HeySteve no timing involved. if you sell your corp in the bubble and walk away you shorted the bubble. [19:37]
ThickAsThieves i think the need to buy bitocin in addition to any VC investment related to a bitcoin co is obvious [19:37]
ThickAsThieves and thus theyll all do it [19:37]
ThickAsThieves and save some skin [19:37]
mircea_popescu obvious, to whom. [19:37]
HeySteve mircea_popescu yes in a sense, I know a guy who was offered a fortune for his finance site but held on [19:37]
ThickAsThieves tony [19:37]
ThickAsThieves barry [19:38]
ThickAsThieves etc [19:38]
mircea_popescu stuff like f.derp is MAKING it obvious [19:38]
mircea_popescu but no, it's not obvious. [19:38]
ThickAsThieves maybe youre right [19:38]
mircea_popescu HeySteve is he rich ? [19:38]
ThickAsThieves it wasnt always obvious to me [19:38]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves never estimate just how lemming-like finance types are/. [19:38]
mircea_popescu it can't be done. [19:38]
HeySteve mircea_popescu, he's very comfortable I'd say, retired now, but he could have been loaded [19:38]
mircea_popescu that's the one profession that most selects for lemming qualities. more so than military even [19:38]
mircea_popescu HeySteve mkay. [19:38]
HeySteve yeah moneyweb.co.za if you're interested [19:39]
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HeySteve mircea_popescu, any similar products to F.DERP which you're aware of? [19:39]
ThickAsThieves cuz all the accountibility leads to all these illusions of predicting things [19:39]
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mircea_popescu punkman: they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP << they call my phone here too. to sell me... comcast and shit. [19:39]
mircea_popescu HeySteve not really. i don't think the world has spawned yet such an asshole so as to be able to match with me. [19:40]
asciilifeform comcast in Ar ?! [19:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i have no fucking idea. [19:40]
ThickAsThieves mp can you use your power to break comcast? [19:41]
HeySteve mircea_popescu heh some people probably won't appreciate this fund, but it expands an investor's options so I don't see the downside [19:41]
mircea_popescu but daily call logs have at the end : "spam - comcast, netflix, pizzahut" etc [19:41]
ThickAsThieves thx [19:41]
mircea_popescu HeySteve the downside is that it sinks the hype, which is a very major problem. [19:41]
asciilifeform u.s. phone extension ? [19:41]
mircea_popescu the entire vc circuit lives out of hype. [19:41]
mircea_popescu so in their perspective, this is a disaster of commons sort of situation : a bunch of people work to inflate bubbles, all it takes to ruin theireffort is one guy with a pin [19:41]
mircea_popescu 11-6542-5529 [19:42]
rithm yeah lemming-like [19:42]
mircea_popescu o hay josh [19:42]
rithm there's a certain judge and we just (not i) a suborndinate installed his new computer [19:42]
rithm ira balances laying out [19:43]
rithm checking out balances laying about [19:43]
rithm no personal security [19:43]
HeySteve mircea_popescu, why not just create futures or some other instruments over these companies, which could be traded long or short? [19:43]
rithm howdy mircea [19:43]
mircea_popescu punkman1 lol who's popeofdope ? [19:43]
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mircea_popescu HeySteve too much hassle with future chains. if you want them short you buy f.derp, if you want them long you just get to select d.whatever [19:44]
mircea_popescu this because logically nobody who wants them short cares which [19:44]
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mircea_popescu whereas people wanting them long prolly want to stock pick [19:44]
ThickAsThieves btw ive been sending some traders to check out bitbet, hopefully some stick [19:45]
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ThickAsThieves the SR auction is the talk of the town [19:45]
HeySteve mircea_popescu ok and you say these are synthetic instruments... this means you don't own or have borrowed any shares in the companies? [19:45]
mircea_popescu any by sent you mean referral ? [19:45]
ThickAsThieves yes [19:45]
ThickAsThieves but also verbal chatting up [19:45]
mircea_popescu HeySteve not directly. [19:45]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves nice. [19:45]
mircea_popescu assbot: Canadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash - Telegraph << hallellujah. [19:46]
ThickAsThieves commenters saying i stole the bet wording! slander [19:46]
mircea_popescu pankkake: and of course Goat is on every bitcoin scam apparently << he just pumps them. [19:46]
mircea_popescu i was wondering where's pankkake [19:46]
HeySteve ok thanks, I think that covers it. I have written up some pre-amble then will add these lines verbatim apart from adding capitalisation and punctuation. will ask if any further questions come up. [19:47]
mircea_popescu no problem. [19:47]
asciilifeform http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Moneytoilet_2ecom [19:47]
assbot Halfbakery: Moneytoilet.com [19:47]
rithm http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/tally-of-cyber-extortion-attacks-on-tech-companies-grows/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1& [19:47]
rithm what a long url [19:47]
mircea_popescu ?_php=true [19:47]
mircea_popescu now that's epic. [19:47]
mthreat and twice [19:48]
mthreat in case the first one didn't work [19:48]
rithm hey i just copied and pasted it [19:48]
mircea_popescu shouldn't it be ?___php====true ? [19:48]
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mircea_popescu !b 7 [19:48]
assbot Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0B8VQ7Q.txt ) [19:48]
HeySteve Dogecoin getting copyright trolled - "Ultra Pro International, a case and sleeve company, announced plans to trademark the word “Doge.”" [19:48]
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mircea_popescu they never tm'd it ? [19:49]
mircea_popescu not possible. [19:49]
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HeySteve http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/dogecoin-users-outraged-trademark/2014/06/23 [19:49]
assbot Dogecoin Users Outraged Over Trademark [19:49]
mircea_popescu awww lol [19:49]
rithm it _was_ a ripoff of another alt, so they might have overlooked that purposefully [19:49]
rithm or still is [19:50]
mircea_popescu HeySteve o wait, were you with the one crypto news site i kinda liked ? [19:50]
mthreat there are "Caffe del Doge" in buenos aires [19:50]
rithm kaynecoin sued though [19:50]
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HeySteve yeah mircea_popescu, the one I linked to above [19:50]
mircea_popescu cool [19:50]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust HeySteve [19:50]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask HeySteve!HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user HeySteve: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=HeySteve | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=HeySteve | Rated since: Sat Apr 12 02:49:55 2014 [19:50]
rithm yeah i stumbled on someone from this channel's blog last night accidentally [19:50]
mircea_popescu ;;rate HeySteve 1 cryptocoinsnews reporter. [19:51]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user HeySteve has been recorded. [19:51]
HeySteve cool I should rate you also, plus quite a few others [19:51]
mircea_popescu who's the admin there ? [19:52]
HeySteve David Parker (alias) [19:52]
mircea_popescu well tell him to drop by sometime, maybe we make an advertising deal ? [19:52]
mike_c i broke it. http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea+*derp [19:52]
HeySteve cool mircea_popescu, I'll let him know [19:53]
mircea_popescu mike_c blank page ? [19:53]
mike_c yeah [19:53]
mircea_popescu o o i thought you meant you broke som,e story [19:53]
mircea_popescu had press language space loaded [19:53]
mike_c hehe [19:53]
mthreat mircea_popescu: suffix searches ("*derp") don't work [19:53]
mthreat oops, that was meant for mike_c [19:54]
mike_c well, i was trying to search for "f.derp", but seems it didn't like the period [19:54]
HeySteve ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 runs MPEx, involved in Bitcoin for ages [19:54]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded. [19:54]
nubbins` Mats_cd03: can do, but shipping would be the killer. better to get it done locally [19:54]
mthreat mike_c: f.derp matches 3 results [19:55]
mike_c that feels unlikely. mircea never said f.derp? [19:55]
mircea_popescu i must've [19:55]
mthreat mike_c: can be verified by clicking the result link to the log [19:56]
mike_c maybe he didn't! is assbot not indexed? [19:56]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798 << do you want to bother and CD them ? [19:56]
assbot Ripoff Report | bitbet.us Complaint Review Internet: 1155798 [19:56]
mircea_popescu im kinda inclined to ignore [19:57]
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thestringpuller mike_c: are you gonna charge for btc-alpha one day? [19:58]
Apocalyptic "I made a deposit and started to play. The games were a little glitch, especially Blackjack" // huh [19:58]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic ransom site. [19:58]
mthreat mike_c: assbot is indexed. add "isbot:true" or "isbot:false" to include only bots, or remove them, respectively. [19:58]
nubbins` http://www.duhaimelaw.com/2014/06/22/canada-implements-worlds-first-national-bitcoin-law/ [19:59]
assbot » Canada implements world’s first national Bitcoin law Duhaime Law [19:59]
Apocalyptic mircea, I don't get it [19:59]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic you knopw what revenge pornsites are ? [20:00]
mircea_popescu nubbins` does it say anything interesting ? [20:00]
Apocalyptic yeah [20:00]
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mircea_popescu same principle. [20:01]
nubbins` dealing in "virtual currencies" subject to AML regs, must register with FINTRAC, banks are prohibited from opening accounts for dealers who aren't registered [20:01]
mike_c mthreat: got it. thanks. very cool page. [20:02]
mike_c thestringpuller: i'm more likely to pay people to read it than to charge :) [20:02]
mike_c but no, i don't really expect to ever charge. [20:03]
nubbins` essentially what cavirtex ceo suggested in senate heatings :D [20:03]
nubbins` hearings, even [20:03]
mircea_popescu mike_c srlsy ?! [20:03]
mircea_popescu nubbins` sucks for canada. [20:04]
mike_c srlsy no charge? yeah. it's a loss leader. [20:04]
mike_c what's the point of charging? if i ever want to make some pennies i'll toss up a BB affiliate ad. [20:05]
mike_c not like i have all of romania reading it or anything. [20:05]
mircea_popescu i c. [20:05]
mike_c ThickAsThieves: you see my comment the other day about altcoin-seeder? [20:06]
bitcoinpete nubbins`: not entirely unexpected regs [20:07]
bitcoinpete really just focusing on >$10k transactions [20:07]
jurov nubbins` ThickAsThieves pankkake etc... you're to cease and desist using mpex/coinbr before the PCMLTFA takes comes into effect [20:07]
mircea_popescu wait what [20:08]
jurov >:D [20:08]
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jurov oh TAT is not canadian sry... but hes hould have stopped long ago anyway [20:09]
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jurov and nubs too... [20:09]
BingoBoingo Wait pankkake is canadian nao too? [20:09]
mike_c candian, french, not much difference [20:10]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [20:12]
gribble Current Blocks: 307400 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1047 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16247789840.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.68853 [20:12]
benkay http://paulford.kinja.com/wait-we-didnt-have-a-cms-team-1593914473 // i'm dying over here [20:12]
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assbot FOR THE LOVE OF CONTENT MANAGEMENT I AM GOING TO LEARN ABOUT KINJA which apparently has headline limits in length no actually it just has a counter regarding headline length and it's unclear exactly how long headlines can be and if they can be really long or not, but one thing is clear and that is that headlines can't have italics anyway this headline [oh no according to Twitter, which is apparently where you go for Kinja document [20:12]
BingoBoingo benkay: Wait till you get to the comments [20:13]
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benkay " but as we formalize our road map, we're formalizing the teams working on those buckets." [20:18]
benkay yeah that one's great, eh jurov ? [20:18]
benkay "product vision" [20:18]
benkay sent that to a guy i know over at ebay mobile whose "vision quest to set the visual style fo ebay mobile" has been relegated to the...ipad app. [20:18]
mike_c lol. jurov, that image will definitely be useful in the future. [20:19]
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fluffypony sweet! [21:03]
fluffypony in-flight wifi ftw [21:03]
fluffypony lol @ upload speed - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3581385036 [21:04]
assbot Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results [21:04]
mircea_popescu wd. [21:04]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ransomware/ [21:07]
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jadne_ jaycutler6969 jborkl jespern Jezzz joesmoe JoshG julles jurov justusranvier [21:12]
mircea_popescu !up jaycutler6969 [21:12]
-assbot- You voiced jaycutler6969 for 30 minutes. [21:12]
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asciilifeform re: link: mircea_popescu and i must be the last people alive using 'squirrelmail' [21:13]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: it'll either be fun, or batshit insane << ahaha srsly, going to the tortilla conference ?! [21:13]
mircea_popescu please to liveblog. [21:13]
fluffypony oh I will ;) [21:13]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform why ? it works just fine [21:13]
asciilifeform aye, it does [21:13]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: It has electrolytes, it's what plants crave. [21:14]
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mircea_popescu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqvoRETCQAEr9-L.jpg << somebody's got plans. [21:14]
fluffypony I love that movie [21:14]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'd love to see how these folks intend to paint india without triggering nuke 'test' [21:15]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: bet its like ~1100 cals har har << i once had 1800 calories in a single sundae. whatever, it's my hot body and i do what i want! [21:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nazis took over pappen's govt right ? [21:16]
mircea_popescu "without a single pane of glass being broken" [21:16]
mircea_popescu as a certain short ignoramus was fond of pointing out [21:16]
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mircea_popescu rithm: this 2 factor voice just makes me want to stalk and watch everyone << kinda the point [21:17]
rithm do you know when i close my irc chat window [21:17]
rithm i feel watched [21:17]
mircea_popescu lol [21:17]
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mircea_popescu benkay: are you distancing your afk name from your irc handle? << he didn';t scam anyone afaik. [21:19]
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mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ << why ? [21:20]
assbot BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 16 hours ago [21:20]
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rithm did i scam anyone? no. [21:23]
rithm the only person to successfully scam me has perjured himself in court and is fighting the SEC [21:23]
mircea_popescu who's this ? [21:23]
mircea_popescu pirate ? [21:23]
rithm blow me. [21:23]
rithm yes [21:23]
mircea_popescu lol [21:23]
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mircea_popescu i wonder if search finds the more than a car thing lessee [21:24]
rithm the jimmy buffet dude [21:24]
mircea_popescu rithm was that convo here or in onepercent ? [21:24]
rithm perspective is everything [21:24]
rithm i think more than car, less than a house was here [21:24]
rithm or pm maybe [21:24]
mircea_popescu nah i don't do pm with dubious characters [21:25]
rithm i can send you copies of your if you'd like [21:25]
rithm pm's i have [21:25]
rithm not full channels [21:25]
mircea_popescu me too. [21:25]
mircea_popescu i log when logged. [21:25]
rithm sneaky bastard [21:25]
rithm i hope you didn't log that sonic dematerializer conversation [21:26]
rithm i was so drunk [21:26]
mircea_popescu so maliki is going to end up hanged ? [21:26]
rithm i'm not sure who maliki is but it sounds vaguely religious so i'll just ignore it [21:28]
TomServo Iraqi PM [21:29]
TomServo Soon to be former, evidently [21:29]
mircea_popescu no cause kerry is violently supporting him :D [21:29]
kakobrekla ;;later tell bitcoinpete did you get the answer? [21:29]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:29]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu hm? compact disc them? [21:30]
mircea_popescu cease and dessist [21:30]
kakobrekla meh [21:30]
mircea_popescu myeah. [21:30]
kakobrekla there will be plenty of those irrelevant of what we do [21:30]
mircea_popescu i just wrote a good and serious article [21:30]
FabianB $trades [21:30]
mircea_popescu as pankkake observed [21:30]
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FabianB $traded [21:31]
empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR [21:31]
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Mats_cd03 maliki is going to end up living in london [21:32]
mircea_popescu bet ? [21:33]
Mats_cd03 sending his kids to oxford and the like [21:33]
Mats_cd03 ok, terms? whether he lives out the year? [21:34]
mircea_popescu what year. [21:34]
Mats_cd03 23jun2015 [21:35]
mircea_popescu if by august 15h maliki has been hanged in the middle east, bet resolves as yes. if he's living in lonon, bet resolves as no. otherwise, bet cancels. [21:35]
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asciilifeform isn't this 'badbet'? [21:36]
asciilifeform or can we bet on any hanging now [21:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what assasin ever hangs anyone ? [21:36]
mircea_popescu it'd be a penal proceeding [21:36]
mircea_popescu not likely that someone sneaks into baghdad and surrepitiously hangs the pm [21:36]
asciilifeform didn't they hang that btc exchange chick in Sg ? [21:36]
mircea_popescu what ?! [21:37]
asciilifeform the one found in apartment lobby with rope marks [21:37]
mircea_popescu ok, publicly hanged [21:37]
asciilifeform ah ok [21:37]
rithm iraq is shitshow [21:37]
rithm a big hole some moron threw money into [21:37]
asciilifeform it's +EV for the folks in charge of the show [21:38]
Mats_cd03 300M morons. [21:38]
asciilifeform (u.s. firms who get to churn inventory) [21:38]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 moar like 1-2 bn [21:38]
Mats_cd03 hows that [21:39]
rithm not sure why i tried to some singular entity but it feels nice to do [21:39]
rithm *blame [21:39]
rithm i accidentally a word [21:39]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03 maybe we're talking at xpurposes, was your 300mn the total money thrown in the hole ? [21:40]
* asciilifeform dreamt last night that he was to be hanged, but couldn't afford to pay for the roap and the grease - so was sent home to save up. [21:40]
Mats_cd03 nah us population [21:40]
mircea_popescu a [21:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "i was sentenced to hang but i ated it" [21:41]
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kakobrekla grease? [21:42]
mike_c tar and feather before hanging [21:42]
kakobrekla a. [21:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42769 @ 0.00080389 = 34.3816 BTC [+] {3} [21:57]
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benkay mircea_popescu: when do we get 2year bitbets? [21:58]
Mats_cd03 proposal submitted, waiting on jurov to clear funds [21:58]
mircea_popescu benkay the day you're ready to zerconf 1k btc for a 2 year bet. [21:59]
jurov Mats_cd03: which proposal? maybe i can add onto it [22:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04527103 = 0.5433 BTC [+] [22:02]
Mats_cd03 Maliki is hanged [22:03]
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benkay mircea_popescu: what do zeroconfs have to do with anything? [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8212 @ 0.00080261 = 6.591 BTC [-] [22:08]
benkay mircea_popescu: "oppinion" on ransomware [22:09]
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bitcoinpete kakobrekla: no, didn't get the answer [22:15]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: because http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729957 ... [22:15]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:15]
bitcoinpete curious what the cut-off is on bitbets for future reference [22:16]
bitcoinpete 1 hr before they can possibly by resolved? 6 hrs? [22:16]
bitcoinpete i completely understand that betting after an event has occurred, even if the bet is still "open" warrants a simple refund less admin fee [22:17]
bitcoinpete but there's an undefined (to me) grey area prior to that point [22:17]
bitcoinpete i've little doubt that this has arisen before [22:18]
bitcoinpete i'm just not familiar with the sop [22:18]
mike_c ^ this is also applicable to the "in-game betting" conversation from the other day [22:18]
bitcoinpete right [22:18]
bitcoinpete that's the scenario here [22:18]
bitcoinpete i don't recall, was there a consensus following that conversation? [22:19]
mike_c well, the consensus was to do it and all the world cup expiration dates were moved out. [22:19]
mike_c you can probably dig it up with the fancy new search tool. [22:20]
bitcoinpete thanks be to mthreat [22:21]
nubbins` http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif [22:22]
kakobrekla bitcoinpete i dun think theres any hardcoded rule, mods call it and then you can bitch about it here [22:23]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu: what do zeroconfs have to do with anything? << bitbet is a business, eh ? ran for profit. [22:23]
mircea_popescu &ty [22:24]
gribble Error: "ty" is not a valid command. [22:24]
mircea_popescu lolk [22:25]
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thestringpuller free chily! [22:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.1999 = 1.3993 BTC [+] [22:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+] [22:27]
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thestringpuller ;;ud stack cheddar [22:32]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stack%20cheddar | Nov 9, 2007 ... Download the Free App! 1. stack cheddar. To make lots of money. Hustlin. "Get on your grind son. Stack cheddar." by Mooner November 09, ... [22:32]
benkay isn't PKI a nsa plant? [22:32]
thestringpuller Or "Mircea Popescu be stackin' cheddar" [22:32]
kakobrekla >>FUCK YOU BITFINEX YOU FILTHY FRONT RUNNING FAKE VOLUME THIEVING FUCKING FRENCH CUNTS! WHERE WAS THE 50 BTC ORDER THAT WAS RIGHT BEHIND MY FUCKING STOP LOSS YOU FUCKING ROBBING RAT BASTARDS!" [22:33]
kakobrekla lol [22:33]
kakobrekla they arent even french. [22:33]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:34]
mircea_popescu "o no, we know better than mp, let's use scam sites" [22:34]
mircea_popescu "o shit we got robbed by a scamsite HURRRRR" [22:34]
kakobrekla mhm [22:34]
davout kakobrekla: the owner is! [22:35]
bitcoinpete sorry, was just having a bite on the patio here at the mac [22:35]
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kakobrekla oh? i thought it was asians. [22:35]
mircea_popescu some idiot frenchman was involvedat some time [22:35]
bitcoinpete so nao i'm curious who moderated that costa rica bet if not kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ? [22:36]
mircea_popescu but who knows [22:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04532308 = 0.5439 BTC [+] {3} [22:36]
davout i rkn he still is [22:36]
mircea_popescu it's zhou and his collector friend just as well [22:36]
kakobrekla bitcoinpete neither of the said. :( [22:36]
davout raphael nicolle [22:36]
davout never met the dude [22:36]
bitcoinpete blargh! [22:36]
mircea_popescu davout you see my point. [22:36]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete you'll never know. [22:36]
bitcoinpete kakobrekla: can either of your adjudicate? [22:36]
kakobrekla if mp sez so [22:37]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: that's fine as long as my case can be plead [22:37]
mircea_popescu in principle eithger of us can, historically we never have. [22:37]
mircea_popescu go ahead [22:37]
bitcoinpete ty [22:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: '...know better than to get involved with the armed retinue of a lord...' << see interesting example - the private army of gazprom (said to contain own tank corps, aviation, etc.) - nobody fucks with it, scarcely anyone even mentions it. [22:37]
mircea_popescu pleas are to the gods anyway, rather than specific people. [22:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform indeed. [22:37]
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bitcoinpete as previously mentioned, costa rica was playing its second world cup game on friday [22:37]
bitcoinpete there are 3 games in the opening round, though it's possible to advance after only two games [22:38]
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bitcoinpete in the 55th minute, give or take a few, a bet was placed that costa rica would win the match and therefore advance [22:39]
bitcoinpete the bet was confirmed [22:39]
bitcoinpete with >30' of play remaining in the game [22:39]
bitcoinpete costa rica won the game [22:39]
bitcoinpete and advanced [22:39]
bitcoinpete this in-game bet was rejected [22:39]
bitcoinpete http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 [22:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: '...bright young men that hadn’t gone though the compiler and complexity modules of their CS programme' << i actually watched the beginnings of this change at my uni. various things were made optional, and the audiences became 'pocket sized' [22:39]
assbot BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 17 hours ago [22:39]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 this one you mean ? [22:40]
assbot BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 17 hours ago [22:40]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: precisement [22:40]
mircea_popescu game was at 20 June 2014 13:00 gmt ? [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5238 @ 0.00080226 = 4.2022 BTC [-] [22:41]
bitcoinpete just confirming... [22:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'operating systems' and 'compilers' (traditionally considered the gnarliest subjects in the department, outside of the required maths) were already optional and barely attended. [22:42]
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mircea_popescu sucks, you know, to go to a place of learning for the purpose of not learning [22:42]
bitcoinpete http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=255931/match=300186500/index.html#nosticky [22:42]
assbot 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil: Italy-Costa Rica - Overview - FIFA.com [22:42]
bitcoinpete 13:00 local time [22:42]
mircea_popescu like going to work in a brothel as a rpude [22:42]
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mircea_popescu bitcoinpete so 16:00 gmt ? [22:43]
asciilifeform ;;ud rpude [22:43]
gribble Google found nothing. [22:43]
mircea_popescu prude [22:43]
asciilifeform Aha [22:43]
bitcoinpete recife is utc - 03:00 [22:43]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete even if there's some sort of daylight savings time stuff, its 17;00 gmt at the latest, the bet is half hour or so after close [22:44]
mircea_popescu this may be because it took a while to confirm, but anyhow [22:44]
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bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: that doesn't add up [22:46]
bitcoinpete game starts at 1600 [22:46]
bitcoinpete half time at 1645 [22:46]
mircea_popescu aha [22:46]
bitcoinpete restart game at 1700 [22:46]
bitcoinpete bet confirmed at 1732 [22:46]
bitcoinpete game concludes no later than 1750 [22:47]
mircea_popescu wow check that out, it just HAILED in BA. [22:47]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete hm. [22:47]
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punkman http://just-dice.blogspot.com/2014/06/betting-and-depositing-disabled-on-jd.html [22:47]
assbot Just-News @ Just-Dice: Betting and Depositing Disabled on JD and DD [22:47]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: my thoughts exactly [22:47]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: '...enforce their superiority over the popular guards' << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014&bots=true#511301 [22:47]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:47]
mircea_popescu wow jd just closed ? [22:48]
mircea_popescu dooglus you selling it ? [22:48]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: so where do we go from here? [22:49]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete well, i see your point, ima have to argue nao. [22:49]
asciilifeform seems like it was banned ? [22:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform guy lives in canada [22:50]
asciilifeform right - banned there [22:50]
FabianB !mpif [22:51]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+] [22:51]
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punkman !jd --mpif [22:52]
punkman !jd mpif [22:52]
assbot Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.25671059 BTC; -0.14834219 BTC (-0.0860%) since last check 1d 4h 17m 52s ago. [22:52]
bitcoinpete http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-23/german-gold-stays-in-new-york-in-rebuff-to-euro-doubters.html [22:54]
assbot German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg [22:54]
bitcoinpete “Objectively, there’s absolutely no reason for mistrust.” [22:54]
bitcoinpete such lulz [22:54]
bitcoinpete "“The Americans are taking good care of our gold,” Norbert Barthle, the budget spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democratic bloc in parliament, said in an interview. " [22:54]
jurov http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27973473 kinda related :D [22:56]
assbot BBC News - Poland leak: Radek Sikorski scorns 'worthless' US ties [22:56]
jurov "the Polish-US alliance isn't worth anything" [22:56]
ThickAsThieves <+mike_c> so ThickAsThieves, if you put a nameserver record in your DNS (NS, not an A record) pointing seeds.therealaltcoin.org at 54.197.241.190 // Having trouble finding where to do this in Namecheap... bear with me [22:58]
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Blazedout419 bitcoinpete you ever sell off those Lealana coins? [23:02]
bitcoinpete Blazedout419: nope [23:02]
Blazedout419 My offer still stands anytime :) [23:03]
mircea_popescu !up ArsKisS [23:04]
-assbot- You voiced ArsKisS for 30 minutes. [23:04]
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FabianB dooglus is canadian? i thought australian [23:05]
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mircea_popescu nah [23:06]
fluffypony http://i.imgur.com/SNrVRty.jpg [23:06]
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fluffypony I am completely fascinated by my ability to sit on IRC on a plane [23:07]
fluffypony modern teknologiez [23:07]
mircea_popescu cool huh [23:07]
mircea_popescu business class + irc = no loner matters how long the flight is [23:07]
fluffypony exactly [23:07]
mircea_popescu is blondy bored ? [23:07]
rithm ah the bag o nuts [23:08]
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fluffypony she's at home with the 6 dogs [23:08]
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fluffypony so she's plenty busy [23:08]
mircea_popescu oh. [23:08]
rithm it's been a few years now since the 'ol bag of nuts and i were together [23:08]
fluffypony rithm: so you're saying you lost your nuts? [23:08]
rithm yep [23:09]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcds7oq5uN1qc3ldvo1_500.jpg [23:12]
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mircea_popescu ;;isitdown blockchain.info [23:14]
gribble blockchain.info is up [23:14]
FabianB hm. there was no bitbet for jd closure [23:14]
mircea_popescu indeed [23:14]
ThickAsThieves mike_c seeds.therealaltcoin.org is now set up as CNAME 54.197.241.190 - I don't think it's propagated yet tho [23:16]
fluffypony good job, ThickAsThieves [23:16]
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mircea_popescu for mpif holders : dooglus paid, j.dice mpif investment withdrawn safely, https://blockchain.info/tx/c2236225dc87abbd2babcf99078976fc6b50d6819b41ed786049bbca1cb0a17f [23:17]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction c2236225dc87abbd2babcf99078976fc6b50d6819b41ed786049bbca1cb0a17f [23:17]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu: like the whole investment withdrawn? [23:17]
fluffypony did I miss a blog post [23:17]
mircea_popescu fluffypony it's in the logs ya [23:18]
mircea_popescu (debb's post, not mine) [23:18]
fluffypony kk [23:18]
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mircea_popescu and also, slut training footage : http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8a78xrXV1ra163eo8_r1_250.gif [23:19]
FabianB hopefully no-one has bots trading on basis of http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ :) [23:19]
assbot F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha [23:19]
mircea_popescu mike_c 0E-8 srsly ? [23:20]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: i'm off for today and i look forward to hearing from you on the costa rica bet. it would make a lovely birthday present! [23:21]
fluffypony bitcoinpete: turning 29 again? [23:22]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: getting there ;) [23:22]
fluffypony heh heh [23:22]
bitcoinpete fluffypony: have fun in estonia [23:22]
fluffypony I shall live blog it [23:22]
bitcoinpete make sure to include restaurant recommendations [23:23]
bitcoinpete cheers! [23:23]
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mircea_popescu http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/162822/us-dollar-opens-steady-at-815-pesos-all-eyes-on-blue-dollar [23:25]
mircea_popescu heh [23:25]
pankkake http://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA [23:27]
assbot Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube [23:27]
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pankkake btw: http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK [23:32]
assbot BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 5.94 B (44%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 39`983 (100`000 to 1) [23:32]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0445 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {2} [23:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04667441 = 0.7001 BTC [+] {3} [23:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0008043 = 13.4318 BTC [+] [23:53]
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