Forum logs for 23 Aug 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [00:33] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [00:33] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 | [00:33] |
-assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [00:33] |
ThickAsThieves | insane | [00:33] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [00:34] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 516.6, Best ask: 518.94, Bid-ask spread: 2.34000, Last trade: 518.98, 24 hour volume: 16674.48447915, 24 hour low: 500.01, 24 hour high: 528.0, 24 hour vwap: 515.219441522 | [00:34] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/canadian-television-journalist-arrested-under-order-of-capt-johnson/article_55b5825d-85d0-5265-bc62-5576cfcf1899.html << Ferguson may not be as calm as they the news would have us inclined to believe this week | [00:39] |
assbot | Canadian television journalist arrested under order of Capt. Johnson : News | [00:39] |
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pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: he shoulda been more polite ;/ | [00:41] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Who knows | [00:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22150 @ 0.00063863 = 14.1457 BTC [-] | [00:43] |
pete_dushenski | ;;later tell ben_vulpes have you seen john wayne as zjchinghis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHt0Pb8rkXU | [00:45] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [00:45] |
assbot | The Conqueror original theatrical trailer - YouTube | [00:45] |
BingoBoingo | ;;calc 15975 / 11790 | [00:47] |
gribble | 1.35496183206 | [00:47] |
BingoBoingo | ^average BitBet Bet | [00:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 412 @ 0.00138899 = 0.5723 BTC [+] | [00:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 919 @ 0.00063863 = 0.5869 BTC [-] | [00:59] |
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ben_vulpes | https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apm-marketplace-radio/id447476522?mt=8 << up and to the right! | [01:37] |
assbot | APM: Marketplace Radio on the App Store on iTunes | [01:37] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: One of yours? | [01:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00063738 = 2.9957 BTC [-] | [01:40] |
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ben_vulpes | no sir. | [01:41] |
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kakobrekla | anyone seen anything liek this before http://shrani.si/f/47/UL/3m3knoYx/imag1961.jpg | [02:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2011 @ 0.00063738 = 1.2818 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
mircea_popescu | yes kako, it's a cunt. | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | that's what the girls have between their legs. | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | !b 3 | [02:06] |
assbot | Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3P3V1WT.txt ) | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | !up m4rCsi | [02:07] |
-assbot- | You voiced m4rCsi for 30 minutes. | [02:07] |
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kakobrekla | i thought its a weirdly broken printer fucker | [02:34] |
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BingoBoingo | %t | [02:57] |
atcbot | [X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 2k High: 221 Low: 170 VWAP: 170 | [02:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00063674 = 15.7275 BTC [-] {2} | [03:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5835 @ 0.00063611 = 3.7117 BTC [-] | [03:29] |
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[]bot | Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment" http://bitbet.us/bet/786/ Odds: 85(Y):15(N) by coin, 87(Y):13(N) by weight. Total bet: 1311.77551814 BTC. Current weight: 52,464. | [03:34] |
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BingoBoingo | Parents these days http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2014/08/skool-nerse-time.html | [04:06] |
assbot | Doctor Grumpy in the House: Skool Nerse time | [04:06] |
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BingoBoingo | https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/502983932673916928 | [04:11] |
assbot | http://t.co/HLIJtfak2C | [04:11] |
BingoBoingo | !up contrapumpkin | [04:11] |
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asciilifeform | http://handleshaus.wordpress.com/2014/08/17/procrustean-rashomon << mega-lol re: ferguson affair | [04:12] |
assbot | Procrustean Rashomon | Handle's Haus | [04:12] |
contrapumpkin | thanks :) | [04:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16447 @ 0.00063469 = 10.4387 BTC [-] | [04:20] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I'd watch or at least read recaps of that show. | [04:26] |
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BingoBoingo | https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/a1912bf8cef45942af86faaf0bd9ffc9/tumblr_n85bixmkxt1t5fphqo2_500.gif | [04:38] |
ThickAsThieves | <+kakobrekla> anyone seen anything liek this before http://shrani.si/f/47/UL/3m3knoYx/imag1961.jpg /// the streaking? i assumed it's a laser printer, you may have an expired head, or rollers/head are dirty. If you mean that most of the print is missing on the new one, well it could be a major malfunction, bad head. If you mean the dusting on the white area, you may have toner in your | [04:39] |
ThickAsThieves | parts and the inside of the printer needs to be cleaned. That's off the top of my head. | [04:39] |
BingoBoingo | https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/87dbddb8a655fdcaa8603cbc22728b9d/tumblr_n85bixmkxt1t5fphqo3_500.gif | [04:39] |
ThickAsThieves | nice | [04:39] |
kakobrekla | ThickAsThieves both prints should be all black | [04:40] |
ThickAsThieves | have you tried a different head? | [04:40] |
ThickAsThieves | if it's new it shouldn't need one... | [04:40] |
kakobrekla | i have done 50 prints on it or so | [04:41] |
kakobrekla | but i cant change the head even if i change the toner | [04:41] |
ThickAsThieves | can you change the distance of the paper? | [04:41] |
ThickAsThieves | all the dusting is also a problem | [04:42] |
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ThickAsThieves | probably just busted | [04:43] |
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kakobrekla | i guess so, doesnt seem to be a common problem | [04:43] |
ThickAsThieves | is it the same paper? | [04:44] |
kakobrekla | yup | [04:44] |
kakobrekla | tried 3 different ones really. | [04:45] |
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ThickAsThieves | did you clean it at all? | [04:45] |
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BingoBoingo | http://38.media.tumblr.com/d3e13bd3eac0877f24791fc4ab95f890/tumblr_n5v7qqjeVF1rc7zl1o2_400.gif | [04:46] |
ThickAsThieves | they are electrostatic, so if you use the wrong stuff on rollers or such itll fuck up shit | [04:46] |
kakobrekla | electrostatic what? | [04:47] |
BingoBoingo | http://33.media.tumblr.com/d3c2c22073f3fe29ca40f1814ea2877f/tumblr_n4glz0IOR51qax99wo2_500.jpg | [04:48] |
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ThickAsThieves | the paper has a coating that accepts charge, the head delivers it in the print pattern, the paper is run over toner and it sticks, then it is melted on, if any full-contact parts were cleaned and have residue, they will disrupt the process | [04:49] |
ThickAsThieves | though a hard stop like you show would be a separate problem probably | [04:50] |
BingoBoingo | I refuse to consider them proper "laser" printers until they work because the laser burns its message | [04:50] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker | [04:51] |
ThickAsThieves | i used to work on cart sized ESTATS, they were like industrial machine verisons of xerox uses for dye sublimation transfer plotting | [04:51] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 510.0, Best ask: 510.06, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 510.06, 24 hour volume: 15468.07364882, 24 hour low: 500.01, 24 hour high: 528.0, 24 hour vwap: 514.217278334 | [04:51] |
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BingoBoingo | http://media.tumblr.com/a10a1980b62673f60ed27f88ccbebed6/tumblr_inline_mku619sgkc1qz4rgp.gif << Baby Polar bear being tickled | [04:51] |
ThickAsThieves | needed to be calibrated and cleaned multiple times per day | [04:52] |
ThickAsThieves | theyd break once a month | [04:52] |
ThickAsThieves | laser printers are mostly shit in that regard | [04:53] |
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BingoBoingo | http://lexi-the-corgi.tumblr.com/image/81452424299 | [04:53] |
assbot | Corgis are Super Villains in Disguise : Photo | [04:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13050 @ 0.00063476 = 8.2836 BTC [+] | [04:55] |
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BingoBoingo | !up youtubetard | [05:21] |
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penguirker | New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/how-i-was-wrong-cuckolding-or-a-story-about-sigmas/ | [05:21] |
BingoBoingo | Hello | [05:21] |
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youtubetard | Says I have been voiced for 30 minutes? Still learning here. | [05:25] |
BingoBoingo | youtubetard: Yeah | [05:26] |
BingoBoingo | if you need more time just pm someone | [05:26] |
BingoBoingo | as long as you act like a human being generally people are happy to voice you until you establish youself in the WoT and can voice yourself | [05:26] |
BingoBoingo | youtubetard: So what is it you do? | [05:27] |
youtubetard | ahh ok ok. Makes sense. I am reading up more so I don't come off as a troll lol | [05:27] |
youtubetard | reading up more on WoT that is. | [05:27] |
youtubetard | I work with Bitcoin and enjoy working with technology. I've done mostly consulting which is more or less just educating certain individuals and businesses on BTC, what it is, how it works, and why they should get some | [05:28] |
youtubetard | What about yourself? | [05:28] |
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BingoBoingo | Well, I read a lot and sometime people ask me to do things. | [05:31] |
BingoBoingo | I guess sometimes I "consult" | [05:32] |
BingoBoingo | I also blag | [05:32] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/03/18/regulation-of-magic/ | [05:32] |
assbot | Regulation of Magic | Bingo Blog | [05:32] |
youtubetard | haha good answer. | [05:32] |
BingoBoingo | Basically ever since 2004 when I bought a computer I've been waiting for an opportunity to use GPG and... Bitcoin afforded that. | [05:34] |
youtubetard | haha very nice. Bitcoin has opened a whole new world to basically anyone will to learn/understand it | [05:36] |
youtubetard | which is amazing if you really think about it | [05:36] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [05:36] |
BingoBoingo | Indeed, so when did you get started? | [05:36] |
youtubetard | I built and fiddled with various electronics when I was very little...leading to me building a computer. Came to a better understanding of real money and stable currencies, discovered bitcoin in 2010. and have pursued it ever since | [05:41] |
youtubetard | with continued education of course | [05:41] |
The20YearIRCloud | tada | [05:42] |
The20YearIRCloud | I think we (Rentalstarter) will be having another webinar type thing September the 1st | [05:42] |
BingoBoingo | Ah, even though ~2010 was when I first started reading on it, fucking library school. Wasn't until very late 2012 I started playing with it more seriously and 2013 that I started seeking introductions. | [05:44] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: What sort of webinar? | [05:45] |
youtubetard | ah, it does take time...BTC was deff sketch at first, but that's more so if you're used to seeing things from a consumer/comercial stand point | [05:45] |
The20YearIRCloud | BingoBoingo: going over company financials, forecasting, where the company is headed in the short term | [05:45] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: Ah | [05:46] |
BingoBoingo | youtubetard: See my mistake was I imagined myself poor when I could have seized upon something powerful at the time... But instead dreams of librarian jobs danced in my head. | [05:46] |
BingoBoingo | And I've always wanted to be an Emperor, or at least a lesser Lord of the Manor much more than I've wanted to be a librarian. | [05:47] |
BingoBoingo | Alea Icta Est. | [05:47] |
The20YearIRCloud | maybe some day you can start your own empire in a 3rd world country | [05:50] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: Why not in the remains of a "superpower" | [05:51] |
The20YearIRCloud | i think that'd be too expensive | [05:51] |
BingoBoingo | https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/50e856c99a5ffd1de17fb854d7a3c0fc/tumblr_ms2czuAu8e1rstnrzo1_500.jpg | [05:51] |
youtubetard | ^prices fluctuate. Just gotta position yourself...becoming a religious leader helps | [05:52] |
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BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: Maybe if you plan to camp out there through all the intermediate steps | [05:52] |
BingoBoingo | !up youtubetard | [05:52] |
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The20YearIRCloud | Eh, gdp between 2nd world and 3rd world is huge, much easier to pay some PMCs and take over a african despot than say kazachstan | [05:52] |
BingoBoingo | GDP is a lie | [05:54] |
The20YearIRCloud | Then let's say manpower * arms in inventory | [05:55] |
youtubetard | There are a lot of factors involved. | [05:56] |
BingoBoingo | Right, you could be the motherfucker who has the bomb and an acute shortage of lithium citrate syrup USP | [05:56] |
youtubetard | lol very true | [05:57] |
youtubetard | but, micro-states are on the rise no doubt. | [05:57] |
youtubetard | especially with the use of crypto tech such as btc and being able to generate more free flowing economies | [05:58] |
The20YearIRCloud | There are some pretty good candidate areas for micro countries if yo ucould break away effectively | [05:59] |
BingoBoingo | Florisant Missouri being a prime example | [05:59] |
BingoBoingo | The olds might forgive his neglect, but the youth are always going to think Obama's an Uncle Tom | [06:01] |
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youtubetard | lol | [06:01] |
youtubetard | yea...Quebec will hopefully demonstrate a peaceful and constructive seccesion | [06:02] |
youtubetard | although with the rate of bankrupt nations...it shouldn't be too difficult | [06:03] |
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The20YearIRCloud | is quebec gonna cede again? | [06:07] |
The20YearIRCloud | along with scotland , NI and flanders? | [06:08] |
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youtubetard | one can only hope. | [06:12] |
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youtubetard | more complexity is the nature of all things in the long term. So the rise of many many many micro states is very likely. People see Liechtenstein's success | [06:13] |
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BingoBoingo | The weird thing is an independent Flanders is probably going to be more capable of keeping ISIS at bay than the combined efforts of the US and UK ever could | [06:15] |
youtubetard | oh yea, I agree. If anything ISIS has seen the success of the TaliBann in creating a "Day the Mouse roared" scenario. The US continues to bleed and become bankrupt whilst attempting to maintain "stability" in a non-stabile enviorment | [06:17] |
xmj | hm | [06:17] |
xmj | gentlemen, I need your opinion on something. | [06:17] |
youtubetard | shoot | [06:18] |
xmj | What would make for a better home base in 2015 or 2016: Luxembourg, Monaco or Jersey/Guernsey? | [06:18] |
youtubetard | great question. I don't see europe being safe honestly. While Monaco and other principalities are entering their golden age...the time to be there is now...not in 5 years + | [06:19] |
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youtubetard | but that's my opinion. Prices are high there, so I can't see a benefit financially | [06:19] |
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BingoBoingo | xmj: What about Serbia? | [06:20] |
xmj | define 'safe' | [06:20] |
BingoBoingo | xmj: Or Transndstria? | [06:20] |
xmj | BingoBoingo: nah. Ukraine | [06:21] |
BingoBoingo | Fuck that. | [06:21] |
xmj | and yes, if Russia doesn't invade Ukraine is another option on the table. | [06:21] |
The20YearIRCloud | I like singapore | [06:21] |
xmj | BingoBoingo: You haven't been there. You haven't seen Ukrainian women on the streets. | [06:21] |
xmj | ...or have you? | [06:21] |
The20YearIRCloud | Poland is making alot of good choices | [06:21] |
BingoBoingo | Ukraine is going to suffer full Russian invasion or not | [06:21] |
xmj | The20YearIRCloud: Poland also has a catholic population, which is fucking annoying. | [06:21] |
youtubetard | Russia is a good buy imo | [06:22] |
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xmj | Twenty-somethings going to church _every sunday_. | [06:22] |
The20YearIRCloud | I'd be more worried about making the right decisions as a state than religious preferences | [06:22] |
youtubetard | it will have cheep prices compared | [06:22] |
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The20YearIRCloud | uruguay seems to be a really good choice if they continue on | [06:22] |
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BingoBoingo | Russian is... interesting | [06:23] |
xmj | meh | [06:24] |
xmj | let's assume I want to something in the West. Which is either Anglo-Saxon, or Germanic. | [06:24] |
BingoBoingo | But what if you love her ? What if you love what she’s doing to you, not necessarily for what it is but for it being her doing ? Maybe you even hate it for what it is, on some level, but because she’s doing it you love it anyway. Years later I read in a learned article that that’s exactly how women love, not for the thing but for its meaning, and I was enlightened. That’s what they mean by the meaning of things, do they ? | [06:24] |
BingoBoingo | Well shit. | [06:24] |
xmj | with low taxes. | [06:24] |
BingoBoingo | !up youtubetard | [06:25] |
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The20YearIRCloud | If the US ever de-federalized, many would be in for a treat | [06:25] |
xmj | de-federalized? you mean, proper central state, not just a fake one? | [06:25] |
xmj | fake - in all but law | [06:25] |
The20YearIRCloud | Meaning the federal goverment went back to the original role of only planning national defense and nothing else | [06:25] |
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The20YearIRCloud | Most US states are run pretty well, but when you add the federal goverment into it, it becomes a huge mess | [06:26] |
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BingoBoingo | This latest trilema MP put out is quite the read | [06:26] |
youtubetard | lol very true...the fed is just spiraling into the darkness | [06:26] |
xmj | ah | [06:27] |
xmj | The20YearIRCloud: of course | [06:27] |
xmj | I thought you meant the other way round | [06:27] |
The20YearIRCloud | But state budgets, control, state/house makup, they're run well | [06:27] |
xmj | well, they have no one to bail them out (cf Californian default) | [06:27] |
The20YearIRCloud | Ohio is a prime example, in the past 10 years we've finally got a group in the house that knows what they're doing and are repealing a bunch of dumb laws | [06:27] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: Ohio might suffer the most from reduced Federal dependence... | [06:28] |
xmj | The20YearIRCloud: the funny thing is: | [06:28] |
The20YearIRCloud | left to their own devices, California, Illinois, new york and maryland would implode | [06:28] |
BingoBoingo | Oh, Illinois would split | [06:28] |
xmj | US-american libertarians think they can fix the flaws of the Constitution by reverting to it. | [06:28] |
BingoBoingo | Where, is to be determined | [06:28] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yeah , they'd cut cook county off :D | [06:28] |
BingoBoingo | Oh, most of the stuff sround there too. | [06:28] |
youtubetard | still...smaller limited govmints where authority tends to be inhereted to the local inhabitants tends to be more stable....at least history tells us so | [06:28] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yeah, but cook county would be a start | [06:28] |
youtubetard | lololol constitution caused most of all the issues we have today | [06:29] |
BingoBoingo | Split could run as far south as I-64 and I'd be happy | [06:29] |
The20YearIRCloud | The problem wasn't the constitution, it was that people thought things weren't clear and decided they could deviate | [06:29] |
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xmj | youtubetard: you cannot credibly limit a government's authority | [06:30] |
youtubetard | Russia I think will offer some great opportunities soon enough. | [06:30] |
youtubetard | Correct. I fully agree | [06:30] |
xmj | read Rousseau's Contract Social | [06:30] |
The20YearIRCloud | i think russia could be quite interesting, but i also worry there's an equal chance they'll decided to go back to soviet era stupidity | [06:30] |
BingoBoingo | Missouri would go back to the good old days of Quantrill and burn everything Kansas loves | [06:30] |
youtubetard | but I also don't think humans will abandon goverments nor fiat anytime soon...think about human nature...only technology can really better the opportunities | [06:31] |
youtubetard | yea...Putin seems to be very fond of the ole days | [06:31] |
BingoBoingo | The US, India, Russia, and China all seem to have size related hazards | [06:32] |
youtubetard | size as in geo+ population | [06:33] |
youtubetard | ? | [06:34] |
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The20YearIRCloud | what do you mean with size related hazzard? | [06:36] |
youtubetard | anyone familiar with Satoshis law? | [06:36] |
xmj | what's worse about russia is, they don't seem to go back to russian era but to Tsarist era | [06:37] |
xmj | just without any Romanov on top of the state. | [06:37] |
The20YearIRCloud | that's where china is | [06:38] |
xmj | china doesn't have a Tsar ? | [06:38] |
The20YearIRCloud | essentially a somewhat less corrupt version of nationalist china, minus warlords too | [06:38] |
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BingoBoingo | Size as in population + walk to the next border | [06:43] |
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youtubetard | hmmm | [06:48] |
youtubetard | I think they'll end up fracturing quite a bit | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | ahh juicy logs! | [06:50] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: juicy Trilema | [06:53] |
mircea_popescu | i try. | [06:53] |
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BingoBoingo | !up youtubetard | [06:56] |
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youtubetard | all hail the assbot | [06:56] |
youtubetard | brb | [06:56] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c: and as an aside, it is embarrassing for this channel that tweets are scraped and repeated from links but not references to the log! << yeah srsly. | [06:57] |
BingoBoingo | After that post where I buried any point I was trying to make under three really fucking chewey sentences | [06:57] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo is this ebola ? | [06:59] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Which thing? | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | quarantine | [06:59] |
BingoBoingo | No, I'm talking about Bitcoin simply writing off New York | [06:59] |
mircea_popescu | oh. | [07:00] |
BingoBoingo | Sure New Yorkers will Bitcoin, some might do it well, but... They won't do it under the Grand Wizard McNerdalot of the NYDFS's rules | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: or me not learning my lesson << gotta love the ambiguity in a functioning market. | [07:00] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo i dunno dood, so some guy in new york likes to write bitcoin fanfic. so what of it ? | [07:01] |
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mircea_popescu | whatever floats anyone's boat. | [07:01] |
BingoBoingo | Fanfic is fanfic until Disney buys out Lucasfilm and they promise a feature film every year. | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | in this particular case, fanfic stays fanific. there's no disney to buy, no lucasfilm to buy and nothing to buy it with. | [07:02] |
mircea_popescu | jurov: apparently mircea moved the decimal dot << dots are hard. | [07:04] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell foofingers: Hi people. My is Daniel Marcus. I work together with asciilifeform. And I'm here to do some business with bitcoins. Thank you for having me! << welcome | [07:05] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [07:05] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all | [07:07] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/22i768/raiffeisen_bank_international_internal_memo/ << lolz. | [07:07] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 508.46, vol: 14527.21042164 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 503.5, vol: 4397.79432 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 509.09, vol: 9838.05736514 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 525.0, vol: 15.14120676 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 504.15756, vol: 32436.49540000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 529.95437, vol: 9.94336694 | Volume-weighted last average: 505.933125334 | [07:07] |
assbot | Raiffeisen Bank International internal memo : Bitcoin | [07:07] |
mircea_popescu | teh lines do get drawn. for their safety. | [07:08] |
BingoBoingo | lol, I can't believe I'm still snacking on Dates. Why the fuck did I buy so many dates? | [07:09] |
mircea_popescu | dates rock. | [07:10] |
BingoBoingo | Yeah, go great with Gin and Tonics | [07:11] |
BingoBoingo | %p | [07:13] |
atcbot | [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.47 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 770.80 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.01 TH/s | [07:13] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ottoman empire << 'the sultans' (n. barber) << yes. | [07:14] |
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mircea_popescu | also the extant memoirs of the various valide sultanas over the years. | [07:15] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves: i'm listening to Snow Crash currently, after getting burnt out on Taleb telling everything what it's problem is <<< ahahah good one. | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu | total asshole, that guy, isn't he. | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu | punkman: pete_dushenski: sounds like a death wish << i'd definitely mow him down. fucking biking hipsters. | [07:19] |
mircea_popescu | bats_cd03: i know mircea_popescu would approve, somehow << are the chicks mensturating and defecating on some sort of holy black flag ? | [07:20] |
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mircea_popescu | %d | [07:21] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 231723.59 in 1798 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.66 | [07:21] |
mircea_popescu | look at that, maybe it'll live. | [07:21] |
mircea_popescu | !up bats_cd03 | [07:24] |
-assbot- | You voiced bats_cd03 for 30 minutes. | [07:24] |
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mircea_popescu | why'd you evolve from mats to bats anyway ? | [07:24] |
bats_cd03 | ya isis flag | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | !up abathingape | [07:25] |
-assbot- | You voiced abathingape for 30 minutes. | [07:25] |
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abathingape | hmmm | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | bats_cd03 not bad. pity they didn't have bitcoin addy on tits. | [07:25] |
bats_cd03 | all i want is to fit in with da cool kids | [07:25] |
mircea_popescu | me too! | [07:25] |
bats_cd03 | whats great is you can tell they've seen some shit, and those weapons ain't for show | [07:26] |
abathingape | https://www.ssense.com/men/product/dolce_and_gabbana/navy-double-closure-high-top-sneakers/104266 | [07:26] |
assbot | Dolce & Gabbana: Navy Double Closure High-Top Sneakers | SSENSE | [07:26] |
abathingape | oops wrong chat durp | [07:26] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: Basically ever since 2004 when I bought a computer I've been waiting for an opportunity to use GPG and... Bitcoin afforded that. << a happy fate. | [07:26] |
bats_cd03 | some hajjis r gonna be mad when they find out there are women cumming to kill them and take their virgins | [07:26] |
mircea_popescu | bats_cd03 and take THEM as virgins | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | which they are, right ? back there ? | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | abathingape and on what chan was that supposed to belong ? | [07:27] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: I know right | [07:27] |
bats_cd03 | (some hajjis believe you can't ascend to heaven if a woman kills you) | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google la petite mort | [07:27] |
gribble | La petite mort - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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abathingape | #bitcointraders of course | [07:27] |
bats_cd03 | yeah definitely. young male virgins looove war. | [07:28] |
bats_cd03 | no holds barred? work for free. | [07:28] |
mircea_popescu | youtubetard: more complexity is the nature of all things in the long term. So the rise of many many many micro states is very likely. People see Liechtenstein's success << this is actually a solid point, as unexpected and tenuous as it may seem. | [07:33] |
mircea_popescu | from a macro perspective the average state size is so heavily upper bound and so set to drastically decline... | [07:33] |
mircea_popescu | xmj: What would make for a better home base in 2015 or 2016: Luxembourg, Monaco or Jersey/Guernsey? << awful, all of them. | [07:34] |
BingoBoingo | %p | [07:38] |
atcbot | [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.71 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 679.56 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.31 TH/s | [07:38] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.7 * 10 ** 6 * 2 * 7 | [07:38] |
gribble | 23800000 | [07:38] |
mircea_popescu | lol look at that, X-Rob is practically at even within a week. | [07:39] |
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mircea_popescu | i suck at mining futures. | [07:39] |
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mircea_popescu | !up Wexel | [07:40] |
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mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud: Most US states are run pretty well, but when you add the federal goverment into it, it becomes a huge mess << this isn't actually true. most of the rent seeking gunk is currently sucking out of washington because that's where the teats are, and so this gives the convincing but ultimately false impression individual states are better run. | [07:43] |
mircea_popescu | should the teasts move, within a year and a half tops the local states'd be in such a mess you wouldn't believe your eyes. | [07:44] |
mircea_popescu | dynamic equilibriums. always a bitch. | [07:44] |
BingoBoingo | Missouri goes back to lead mining, Illinois mines coal, Ohio mines butthurt | [07:45] |
mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud: left to their own devices, California, Illinois, new york and maryland would implode << exactly. they're also the only three examples where a trickle of leeching happens even with the federal govt (ie, it's where corrupt politicians try to build a career state-level) | [07:45] |
mircea_popescu | (maryland excepted. i have nfi idea what it's even for. without washington it'd look like detroit five weeks after everyone grew wings) | [07:46] |
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The20YearIRCloud | I'm basing my statement on individual states based on balanced books and economic outlook, i realize that states suck the government teat, however if you look at total federal aid and who it goes to ,the big thing is military aid | [07:52] |
mircea_popescu | not what i mean. | [07:53] |
mircea_popescu | what i mean is, the porkbarrel leeches that curently push and deform washington | [07:53] |
mircea_popescu | would just move over to ohio state capitol. | [07:53] |
The20YearIRCloud | You also have to realize those politcians getting the pork are not the ones who run the state | [07:53] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: A lot of military pork is spent in Ohio | [07:53] |
The20YearIRCloud | Sure it is | [07:53] |
The20YearIRCloud | The lima tank plant is prolly the best example of pork military spending out there | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | the entire "federal funds" thing has nothing to do with anything. they're not "federal" funds in any sense. | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | people made it. | [07:54] |
BingoBoingo | And it being spent there eases the jobs of the state level comrades | [07:54] |
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The20YearIRCloud | The difference in most states is that you elect senators on a state-wide level, so it's very easy to stack votes in areas (And I blame it on fraud) leading to very centrist/leftist politicians in washington | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | sure. but if there were no feds, the same money would still be available. | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud trust me, new gerrymandering would be invented. | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | the current system didn't exist before it was needed either. | [07:55] |
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The20YearIRCloud | For state senators, it's based on geographic districts, and the heavily urban areas have limited voting abilities, so here in ohio, 70% of state senators/house members are right/non-left | [07:55] |
mircea_popescu | inasmuch as there's a public treasury somewhere, there's going to be a troop of people forcing it open. | [07:55] |
mircea_popescu | wherever you houise it, washington or akron, they'll take a bus | [07:55] |
mircea_popescu | they'll swim if they have to. | [07:55] |
The20YearIRCloud | Sure, but if you look at each state, some states have essentially become mini-washingtons, and others are not | [07:55] |
mircea_popescu | only because some states have stuff to be leached and some don't. | [07:56] |
The20YearIRCloud | Not every state is constantly growing the size of government or increasing efficientcy | [07:56] |
mircea_popescu | illinois is bigger and richer than ohio. so is california. so is ny. that is all. | [07:56] |
The20YearIRCloud | Texas has plenty to be leached and they continue to have a balanced budget and generally more efficient finances | [07:56] |
mircea_popescu | it's a matter of size not quality. once the pig is ripe, it gets sliced. | [07:56] |
mircea_popescu | granted, texas is a decent-ish counterexample | [07:56] |
The20YearIRCloud | Ohio is 7th largest in GDP | [07:57] |
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The20YearIRCloud | Florida is also leaps and bounds better than the liberal states, and they're large as well | [07:57] |
mircea_popescu | i will call this variance. | [07:57] |
mircea_popescu | by and large, it won't make a difference. | [07:57] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: If we go truly paleo Illinois has so much more to sell in... Biodiesel... | [07:58] |
The20YearIRCloud | take out chicago and illinois isn't bad | [07:58] |
The20YearIRCloud | just like upstate NY and most (geographically) of california | [07:58] |
The20YearIRCloud | it all comes down to dense urban areas vs everyone else | [07:58] |
The20YearIRCloud | urban areas want to control everything, rural areas typically don't | [07:59] |
mircea_popescu | just because rural folk are slow doesn't mean they're immune from falling. | [07:59] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: But without Chiraq where do you harvest easy lipids for rendering? | [07:59] |
The20YearIRCloud | people | [07:59] |
BingoBoingo | ANd where are they? | [07:59] |
The20YearIRCloud | People are in cities | [08:00] |
BingoBoingo | Like... SHitcago? | [08:00] |
The20YearIRCloud | Yeah, and detroit, saint louis, atlanta, chicago, ect | [08:00] |
The20YearIRCloud | I'm curious what would happen to cities if they do what some counties have done here in Ohio and effectively end police service | [08:01] |
mircea_popescu | The20YearIRCloud you're like, a proud ohio citizen or something, are ya ? | [08:01] |
The20YearIRCloud | half of my county has no police service, some counties have one officer who works half a day | [08:01] |
The20YearIRCloud | I enjoy the state severely, lots of business, but I can also own a machine gun or drive a tank down the highway | [08:02] |
The20YearIRCloud | It's kind of like texas, but we have snow | [08:02] |
mircea_popescu | well, never knew one before. | [08:03] |
BingoBoingo | I mean I like parts of illinois, but Missouri is the way to go. | [08:03] |
The20YearIRCloud | my wife's family is from missouri, i wouldn't mind living out there at all | [08:03] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo yeah but i suspect he likes it in the way of pick up a rifle and form a picket. | [08:03] |
The20YearIRCloud | but the state is severely offset by the idocy in st louis :D | [08:04] |
The20YearIRCloud | her family is about 2hrs south-west of springfield | [08:04] |
The20YearIRCloud | in the middle of literally nowhere | [08:04] |
The20YearIRCloud | which is what makes it even better | [08:05] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: So Fallout already happened there http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/18/a-crude-map-of-missouri-because-where-is-ferguson-anyway/ | [08:05] |
assbot | A Crude Map of Missouri, because where is Ferguson anyway? | Bingo Blog | [08:05] |
The20YearIRCloud | you're just referencing the riots? | [08:06] |
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The20YearIRCloud | BingoBoingo: are you in IL or MO? | [08:07] |
The20YearIRCloud | or are you in west st louis? | [08:07] |
The20YearIRCloud | *east st louis | [08:07] |
BingoBoingo | The20YearIRCloud: ATM I'm happily in undifferentiated IL | [08:08] |
BingoBoingo | Where you can't really tell the difference from Benton to Pekin | [08:08] |
The20YearIRCloud | Not too bad i guess, although you get to enjoy the legal blessings of chicago | [08:08] |
The20YearIRCloud | I've been by effingham | [08:09] |
BingoBoingo | No, I wander the "Big Jail" because allegedly people can dump their fucking High School drama on my shit. Also Political speech seems to totally not be legal in IL. | [08:09] |
The20YearIRCloud | yaeh | [08:11] |
The20YearIRCloud | i guess monett is only a hour outside springfield | [08:11] |
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decimation | re: maryland :: it's pretty much nonsensical sprawl, decay, overpopulation in a swamp | [08:16] |
BingoBoingo | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=708261.0 | [08:16] |
* | BingoBoingo likes ben_vulpes lack of serious competition | [08:16] |
assbot | Coinurl scum | [08:16] |
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decimation | as Mr. Yarvin says, perhaps one day the mighty Patomack will once again flow unvexed into the Chesapeake | [08:16] |
BingoBoingo | Not as Yarvin says, as poor Jimmy from Fallout 3 says | [08:17] |
mircea_popescu | ^ | [08:19] |
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BingoBoingo | DC wil be worthless, you will have to pick through the boats anchored in the harbor to find refuge | [08:20] |
BingoBoingo | Or an overbuilt monument | [08:20] |
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decimation | if that day comes I claim FDR's head | [08:22] |
BingoBoingo | You see outside of the pits that were Tactics and the playstation first person shooter, but Fallout 3 as the worst of the rest of the games had plenty of redeeming lulz in its chosen setting | [08:24] |
asciilifeform | lol i step out for a few hours and we have fdr's head | [08:24] |
asciilifeform | why i always miss the goodstoff | [08:24] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Probably the same reason which gives you meatspace colleagues worth refering here | [08:25] |
decimation | that monument was the most pointless waste of real estate on the mall | [08:25] |
decimation | somehow a phallus was good enough for washington, fdr needs to have sprawling 'teaching moment' | [08:26] |
* | BingoBoingo remembers the "Mall" as a place full of the Jaundiced and Juiced | [08:26] |
decimation | ascii when the day comes I'll help you dissolve the rock around FDR's neck :) | [08:27] |
decimation | from lol scholarship: http://mercatus.org/expert_commentary/does-status-quo-us-federalism-advantage-progressives | [08:27] |
assbot | Does Status Quo U.S. Federalism Advantage Progressives? | Mercatus | [08:27] |
decimation | "Virtually every strongly conservative state has more liberal policies than predicted, and so does virtually every liberal state. " no shit | [08:28] |
BingoBoingo | From what I can tell the only demographic group >500 people that benefited from the Obama regime so far were the gays | [08:29] |
decimation | bezzle finance did pretty well | [08:30] |
BingoBoingo | I mean if the situation for the blacks improved... would there be a Ferguson? | [08:30] |
BingoBoingo | bezzel finance is small | [08:30] |
asciilifeform | deck chairs / titanic. | [08:30] |
* | asciilifeform liked mircea_popescu's mafia story and should like to hear more one day. | [08:31] |
BingoBoingo | http://trilema.com/2011/in-sprijinul-eugeniei/ << How did I miss this earlier | [08:31] |
assbot | In sprijinul eugeniei pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [08:31] |
decimation | BingoBoingo: did the gays really benefit? now they pay extra tax like regular folk | [08:32] |
[]bot | Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 81(Y):19(N) by coin, 80(Y):20(N) by weight. Total bet: 31.48701626 BTC. Current weight: 92,701. | [08:33] |
BingoBoingo | decimation: Or avoid tax on their approved bezzels, but they get good feels. They are IN the fold nao. | [08:33] |
decimation | extend and coopt, it's how the power game is played | [08:34] |
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BingoBoingo | But why the gays and not the young black men, a group he was once a member of. | [08:35] |
decimation | because blacks vote 99% democrat, therefore making their opinions on any political matter void | [08:36] |
kuzetsa | I lived in mississippi for a few years, and there were totally black republicans there | [08:36] |
BingoBoingo | And Homos don't? | [08:36] |
kuzetsa | the black vote wasn't anywhere near 99% democrats | [08:37] |
decimation | bored housewives care about gays | [08:37] |
BingoBoingo | Oh, they totally do. It's all they can watch on Bravo anymoar | [08:37] |
decimation | kuzetsa: http://www.people-press.org/2012/08/23/a-closer-look-at-the-parties-in-2012/, sorry it's closer to 88% nationally | [08:38] |
assbot | Nothing found for 2012 08 23 A Closer Look At The Parties In 2012 , | [08:38] |
kuzetsa | decimation: in mississippi, it was even less though, since basically everyone there is republican | [08:39] |
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decimation | In certain areas it is higher: http://www.amren.com/features/2012/11/race-and-the-2012-election/ Blacks, who accounted for 28 percent of voters and gave him 97 percent of their vote, handed Mr. Obama the state with a resounding 62 percent majority. | [08:41] |
assbot | Race and the 2012 Election | American Renaissance | [08:41] |
BingoBoingo | http://trilema.com/2013/fire-in-alabama-lets-make-the-most-of-it/#identifier_0_47409 | [08:41] |
assbot | Fire in Alabama, let’s make the most of it. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [08:41] |
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BingoBoingo | !up RebeccaBitcoin | [08:43] |
* | assbot gives voice to RebeccaBitcoin | [08:43] |
RebeccaBitcoin | awesome, thanks bingo | [08:43] |
RebeccaBitcoin | didn't even have to deal with gribble | [08:43] |
BingoBoingo | decimation: This isn't about all blacks though | [08:43] |
RebeccaBitcoin | Although I could be an imposter, so thats not cool | [08:43] |
BingoBoingo | This is about the young ones, the ones still being shat on | [08:43] |
BingoBoingo | RebeccaBitcoin: When you get remembered that becomes an issue | [08:44] |
RebeccaBitcoin | ;p | [08:44] |
BingoBoingo | Observe what a JD and asbestos litigation job does to a young revolutionary's twitter feed https://twitter.com/CourtneyRLogan/with_replies | [08:45] |
assbot | Courtney R. Logan (CourtneyRLogan) auf Twitter | [08:45] |
BingoBoingo | Dude pumps a self published book and tweets abotu #Ferguson once | [08:47] |
BingoBoingo | This isn't a value judgment, this is an observation. People who have, or imagine they have something to lose lose the revolutionary edge. | [08:48] |
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BingoBoingo | People with nothing to lose have no reason not to burn the world. | [08:49] |
BingoBoingo | Any particular Micheal Brown need not figure into it at all. | [08:50] |
BingoBoingo | Other than as a spark that warms the tinder. | [08:50] |
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mircea_popescu | [08:53] | |
mircea_popescu | if i cared more i'd prolly try for the same. | [08:53] |
BingoBoingo | Both Americans who caught Ebola walked out of the hospital this week thanks to some expensive ass monoclonal antibodies. That Liberians can't can them means what? Sure it was an experimental drug, but as far as experimental drugs do they don't get much safer. | [08:53] |
BingoBoingo | *go | [08:54] |
BingoBoingo | Sure, the US could work on Ebola eradication if they hadn't spent so much on tilling the ground for ISIS. The Grad students and persons incrediby deserving the title of Herr Doktor could be on parade. | [08:56] |
BingoBoingo | Butt... | [08:57] |
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BingoBoingo | Apparently RUF wasn't sufficiently for the people... | [08:57] |
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BingoBoingo | And the Queen wouldn't seceed Scotland in the name of Amin's good health | [08:58] |
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BingoBoingo | !up alex_c | [09:01] |
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BingoBoingo | Hello alex_c | [09:01] |
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alex_c | hello :) | [09:02] |
BingoBoingo | What's up alex_c | [09:03] |
BingoBoingo | I have to wonder if part of the current downturn is hanbot not acting as MPOE-PR and being the Nystatin that keeps mold from ruining the Da Vinci http://trilema.com/2013/of-mice-and-men-revisited/#footnote_2_46944 | [09:11] |
BingoBoingo | http://trilema.com/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/#identifier_2_47130 | [09:21] |
assbot | People! Bitcoin is not worth 100+ dollars per. STOP BUYING! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [09:21] |
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BingoBoingo | http://trilema.com/2013/of-mice-and-men-revisited/#footnote_0_46944 | [09:26] |
assbot | Of mice and men, revisited pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [09:26] |
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BingoBoingo | !up SuchWow | [09:28] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [09:28] |
decimation | http://28sherman.blogspot.com/2014/08/unified-theory-on-watergate.html << nice rambling on Nixon. made me reconsider my views on the man, given that he looks like a complete genius compared to Obama (re: foreign policy) | [09:28] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: I know you don't like temp voice, but... How is Doge doing? | [09:28] |
assbot | 28 Sherman: Unified Theory on Watergate | [09:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39262 @ 0.00063396 = 24.8905 BTC [-] {4} | [09:29] |
decimation | his theory is that Nixon was going to actually try to throw out all the fdr-era holdovers in the civil service and replace them with 'his people', and the civil service conspired with the press to destroy his presidency | [09:29] |
BingoBoingo | decimation: Not impossible at all | [09:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24188 @ 0.00063321 = 15.3161 BTC [-] {2} | [09:30] |
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BingoBoingo | !up [KS] | [09:39] |
* | assbot gives voice to [KS] | [09:39] |
BingoBoingo | [KS]: Do you know if I have a warrant out for being cool yet? | [09:39] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00063805 = 6.8909 BTC [+] {2} | [09:48] |
decimation | !up Suchwow | [09:58] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [09:58] |
SuchWow | may i please have perm voice? | [10:02] |
fluffypony | ;;gettrust assbot SuchWow | [10:04] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user SuchWow: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=SuchWow | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SuchWow | Rated since: never | [10:04] |
SuchWow | ok lol | [10:04] |
SuchWow | wut i have to do | [10:04] |
fluffypony | you have to get into assbot's L2 | [10:05] |
SuchWow | eli retard plz | [10:05] |
fluffypony | ok you need to be rated by one of these people: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=assbot&sign=ANY&type=SENT | [10:05] |
assbot | Rating Details for User 'assbot' | [10:05] |
fluffypony | here's some reading on it: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/04/11_bitcoin-assets-new-wot-and-voice-model.html | [10:05] |
assbot | #bitcoin-assets new WoT and voice model | [10:05] |
SuchWow | i have no desire to go to that site lol | [10:05] |
fluffypony | well then you can't have perm voice. | [10:06] |
SuchWow | who is kakobrekla | [10:06] |
fluffypony | what do you mean who is he? | [10:06] |
fluffypony | he's a person | [10:06] |
SuchWow | that person could fix this is all i'm saying | [10:06] |
fluffypony | fix it how? | [10:07] |
fluffypony | none of us are on the chanserv access list | [10:07] |
fluffypony | we are all in assbot's L1 or L2 trust group | [10:07] |
SuchWow | he/she is +F | [10:07] |
SuchWow | they most certainly can give me +v | [10:07] |
fluffypony | ;;gettrust assbot fluffypony | [10:07] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask fluffypony!~fluffypon@coreteam.monero.cc. Trust relationship from user assbot to user fluffypony: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 8 via 8 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=fluffypony | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=fluffypony | Rated since: Sat Apr 6 08:20:32 2013 | [10:07] |
fluffypony | see | [10:07] |
SuchWow | [03:05:38] *ChanServ* 1 kakobrekla +AFRfiorstv [modified 2 years, 19 weeks, 1 day, 11:49:32 ago] | [10:07] |
fluffypony | SuchWow: he will not give you chanserv flags, so don't even dream | [10:07] |
SuchWow | why not? | [10:08] |
fluffypony | there's a way things are done here, I've explained that way and linked you to the relevant resources | [10:08] |
fluffypony | if you choose not to read up on it there's not much I can do about htat | [10:08] |
SuchWow | that is fine | [10:08] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Well, what do you do in BTC/Crypto? | [10:08] |
SuchWow | i've also explained why i am annoyed by the constant temp upping for sev months nows | [10:08] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Well, if people knew your schtick you could get perm voice | [10:09] |
* | assbot removes voice from [KS] | [10:09] |
SuchWow | BingoBoingo: nothing. I've been quite clear that i have nothing to say in this chan, and once i do, i will gladly speak up | [10:09] |
SuchWow | however, i've literally been temp upped 30 times | [10:09] |
SuchWow | and it's annoying | [10:09] |
SuchWow | hence i humbly ask for the third time to just perm up me, or leave it alone please | [10:10] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Well, have you tried an IRC bouncer with good connectivity to limit your join/parts? | [10:10] |
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SuchWow | i am on avg connected for 3-5 days at a time | [10:10] |
SuchWow | w/o bouncer | [10:10] |
SuchWow | it just seems to me | [10:10] |
SuchWow | that if you all feel comfortable enough | [10:10] |
SuchWow | to constantly temp up me | [10:10] |
SuchWow | for months | [10:10] |
BingoBoingo | It seems like that, but on day 4 you join/part 10 times in a row, so I temp up you | [10:11] |
SuchWow | that you should feel comfortable enough to +V me | [10:11] |
SuchWow | that is all | [10:11] |
SuchWow | i have never join/part 10 times in one day | [10:11] |
SuchWow | now way | [10:11] |
SuchWow | *no | [10:11] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Well to lend to trust to perm +V... We'd have to have an idea of what you do. If you liek to lurk that''s fine | [10:11] |
SuchWow | i'm an op of #dogecoin since Dec 10 | [10:12] |
SuchWow | i'm in 60+ freenode chans since then | [10:12] |
SuchWow | not sure what else you want lol | [10:12] |
BingoBoingo | But even people who can offer voice to themselves here get temp upped | [10:12] |
SuchWow | I've never once been kicked from any chan | [10:12] |
BingoBoingo | ask peterl | [10:12] |
* | assbot gives voice to kdomanski | [10:12] |
kdomanski | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nPQQlGCrO4 | [10:12] |
assbot | Fantastic Capote et Wonder Capote - YouTube | [10:12] |
SuchWow | i don't want the ability to voice others | [10:12] |
BingoBoingo | or copumpkin | [10:12] |
SuchWow | i just want to not be pinged everytime my connection resets and i rejoin this chan | [10:13] |
* | assbot gives voice to Vexual | [10:13] |
fluffypony | SuchWow that still won't work | [10:13] |
fluffypony | you have to explicitly ask assbot to !up you when you reconnect | [10:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00063809 = 7.8804 BTC [+] | [10:13] |
fluffypony | it's not automatic | [10:13] |
Vexual | !up SuchWow | [10:13] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [10:13] |
Vexual | good dog | [10:13] |
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SuchWow | whatever, i ask kakobrekla to please make an exception, because i have 9 months track record of perfect behavior, and there is no reason not to | [10:14] |
BingoBoingo | [10:14] | |
SuchWow | i do nothing | [10:14] |
SuchWow | i'm just here to obserrve | [10:14] |
mircea_popescu | [10:14] | |
BingoBoingo | Everyone one does something | [10:14] |
SuchWow | and people continually up me | [10:14] |
SuchWow | for months | [10:14] |
SuchWow | every time i join | [10:14] |
SuchWow | i've literally never once had anything to say | [10:14] |
* | assbot gives voice to RagnarDanneskjol | [10:15] |
BingoBoingo | People up me when I join and haven't log caught up and can't speak informedly yet | [10:15] |
BingoBoingo | Hazard of the channel | [10:15] |
SuchWow | well i'm just saying | [10:15] |
SuchWow | there's like 50 ppl here with voice | [10:15] |
SuchWow | and most of them don't say anything either | [10:15] |
Vexual | literally? | [10:15] |
BingoBoingo | In -otc doe you worry when people check ;;ident or ;;gettrust? | [10:15] |
SuchWow | so could we just please add me, and i'll continue to not say anything ever? | [10:15] |
BingoBoingo | ;;gettrust SuchWow | [10:15] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user SuchWow: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=SuchWow | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SuchWow | Rated since: never | [10:15] |
fluffypony | SuchWow: if you're just here to observe why do you need voice? | [10:15] |
SuchWow | and maybe one day, if i get to your level, i'll say something | [10:16] |
RagnarDanneskjol | I'm sure you have plenty to say. | [10:16] |
fluffypony | all of those people with voice - every single one of them - is in assbot's L1 or L2 trust group | [10:16] |
fluffypony | if you don't bother to understand the rules why should anyone make an exception for you? | [10:16] |
SuchWow | fluffypony: I'M JUST TIRED OF BEING PINGED FOR NO REASON THAT'S REALLY ALL IT IS LOL | [10:16] |
fluffypony | !down SuchWow | [10:16] |
* | assbot removes voice from SuchWow | [10:16] |
fluffypony | such caps. | [10:16] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Even if you could self voice... No one gets voice on joining except the bots | [10:16] |
BingoBoingo | !up SuchWow | [10:16] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [10:16] |
SuchWow | [03:16:02] |
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SuchWow | that's all | [10:17] |
mircea_popescu | [10:17] | |
SuchWow | just leave me alone and let me be lol | [10:17] |
BingoBoingo | Now I'm just going to up you to be a dick, at times you least expect it | [10:17] |
SuchWow | lol | [10:17] |
BingoBoingo | !down SuchWow | [10:17] |
* | assbot removes voice from SuchWow | [10:17] |
BingoBoingo | !up SuchWow | [10:17] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [10:17] |
SuchWow | ooo who's the troll with voice now | [10:18] |
BingoBoingo | !s SuchWow | [10:18] |
assbot | 29 results for 'SuchWow' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=SuchWow | [10:18] |
SuchWow | not me lol | [10:18] |
SuchWow | sorry if that's what it takes | [10:18] |
SuchWow | to get voice lol | [10:18] |
BingoBoingo | Trolling is healthy | [10:18] |
SuchWow | indeed | [10:18] |
BingoBoingo | Keeps people honest | [10:18] |
SuchWow | but that is not what this chan is about | [10:18] |
SuchWow | at all | [10:18] |
SuchWow | but enjoy your perma voice | [10:18] |
SuchWow | troll | [10:18] |
BingoBoingo | Well, keeping people honest is a large part of what this chan is about | [10:19] |
SuchWow | totally unrelated topic | [10:19] |
BingoBoingo | and I don't have permavoice | [10:19] |
mircea_popescu | [10:19] | |
BingoBoingo | I have to auth with gribble and pm assbot as everyone else does | [10:19] |
SuchWow | i have no desire to trade | [10:19] |
SuchWow | so why should i auth with gribble | [10:19] |
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BingoBoingo | !up mpmcsweeney | [10:20] |
* | assbot gives voice to mpmcsweeney | [10:20] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: SO your words have weight of identity | [10:20] |
SuchWow | i've stood by my words for 9 months | [10:20] |
SuchWow | in the 9 chans i op | [10:20] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: http://trilema.com/2013/of-men-and-mice/ | [10:20] |
assbot | Of men and mice pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [10:20] |
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* | verne.freenode.net gives voice to lampelina | [10:20] |
* | ChanServ removes voice from lampelina | [10:20] |
SuchWow | i just come here to learn | [10:21] |
BingoBoingo | Why care about OP | [10:21] |
SuchWow | and ppl up me like i have something to say | [10:21] |
SuchWow | i don't | [10:21] |
fluffypony | SuchWow: you register with gribble because it's a web of TRUST, not a web of TRADES | [10:21] |
SuchWow | i don't understand the topics here enough to comment on them | [10:21] |
BingoBoingo | How can we know you have nothing to say? | [10:21] |
SuchWow | but i understand they are important | [10:21] |
SuchWow | so like i said 4 weeks ago | [10:21] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: I mean you OP 9 channels | [10:21] |
BingoBoingo | Surely you see shit we miss | [10:21] |
SuchWow | either give me +V or just stop upping me please | [10:21] |
SuchWow | not at all, you're being ridiculous BingoBoingo | [10:21] |
mircea_popescu | [10:21] | |
SuchWow | then cool | [10:22] |
SuchWow | so again i nicely ask | [10:22] |
SuchWow | as i've asked for weeks now | [10:22] |
SuchWow | could you please not up me unless i ask for it | [10:22] |
SuchWow | that's ALL i've ever asked | [10:22] |
SuchWow | is only because you keep doing so | [10:22] |
SuchWow | that this convo is taking place | [10:22] |
fluffypony | too late, I've already written a script to randomly up you every 1-4 days | [10:22] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow you know i haven't did :) | [10:22] |
BingoBoingo | I drink a lot which lets me forget these things | [10:22] |
fluffypony | I can make it more frequent if you'd prefer, every 12-24 hours? | [10:23] |
SuchWow | i don't WANT voice - i just want to stop GETTING voiced for no reason, which pings me at start, and again 30 min later | [10:23] |
RagnarDanneskjol | better to do random time intervals | [10:23] |
mircea_popescu | he has a point tho. | [10:23] |
* | assbot gives voice to lampelina | [10:23] |
SuchWow | hence why I just say 'make me perma voice' lol | [10:23] |
SuchWow | so i don't have to even notice | [10:23] |
mpmcsweeney | hey all | [10:23] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow i guess one way to go about it is ignore assbot. | [10:24] |
BingoBoingo | Perma voice doesn't exist here | [10:24] |
BingoBoingo | hey mpmcsweeney | [10:24] |
mircea_popescu | hello mpmcsweeney | [10:24] |
SuchWow | i joined irc in 92 | [10:24] |
mpmcsweeney | I heard about this IRC through a colleague | [10:24] |
SuchWow | i've never once used the /ignore command | [10:24] |
SuchWow | i don't intend to start today | [10:24] |
mircea_popescu | now that's an accomplishment. | [10:24] |
mpmcsweeney | whats the purpose of this chat? | [10:24] |
fluffypony | mpmcsweeney: to irritate SuchWow, apparently | [10:24] |
SuchWow | mpmcsweeney: see /topic | [10:24] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Write 1750 words of commentary on this post http://trilema.com/2013/of-men-and-mice/ and I'll lend you a +1 to self up | [10:25] |
assbot | Of men and mice pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [10:25] |
SuchWow | it is to talk about bitcoin based commodities, like stocks and stuff | [10:25] |
mpmcsweeney | ooh so this is a market place | [10:25] |
mpmcsweeney | thats cool | [10:25] |
RagnarDanneskjol | bdsm, high brow vulgarity | [10:25] |
SuchWow | but where you can buy shares using cryptocurrency | [10:25] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla how difficult would it be to have yet another assbot list and a command. if someone goes !novoice then assbot never 30min voices them again | [10:25] |
mpmcsweeney | interesting | [10:25] |
mpmcsweeney | what kind of volume? | [10:25] |
mircea_popescu | but instead says "sorry, this person has nothing to say" | [10:25] |
mpmcsweeney | (if its possible to ask) | [10:25] |
BingoBoingo | !mpif | [10:25] |
assbot | BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021697 B (Total: 474.46 B). Delta: -0.06 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00022 BTC [+] | [10:25] |
SuchWow | mircea_popescu: see, you get me lol. and yes, i remember you being here the last time we had this conversation and so i thank you :) | [10:25] |
SuchWow | a simple solution would be | [10:26] |
SuchWow | don't voice someone who hasn't asked for it :) | [10:26] |
Vexual | ignore | [10:26] |
SuchWow | *simpler | [10:26] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow often there are noobs here. | [10:26] |
SuchWow | because maybe one day i do want voice | [10:26] |
mircea_popescu | and i don't just mean people who don't know irc. i mean people who barely grok computers. | [10:26] |
SuchWow | oh i understand that entirely | [10:26] |
mircea_popescu | like that miss florida girl or w/e she was | [10:26] |
SuchWow | if it is newbs you wish to cater to | [10:26] |
SuchWow | than may i recommend | [10:26] |
mpmcsweeney | SuchWow you have a presence in #dogecoin no? | [10:26] |
BingoBoingo | The thing is many people get pinged for things they couldn't care less about. | [10:27] |
mircea_popescu | not wish. but sometimes people need to be here that are noobs. | [10:27] |
SuchWow | you utilize a standard irc hierarchy | [10:27] |
BingoBoingo | But that doesn't make it spam | [10:27] |
mircea_popescu | like, journos, sec comissioners and so on. | [10:27] |
mircea_popescu | willy nilly bitcoin forces a lot of fiat know nothings into here. | [10:27] |
BingoBoingo | !s reutersemily | [10:27] |
assbot | 233 results for 'reutersemily' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=reutersemily | [10:27] |
Vexual | ill train you to use ignore, it's pretty a standard doge trick | [10:27] |
SuchWow | BingoBoingo: I've been temp-upped 20+ times. I've never had one single thing to say. | [10:27] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo in fairness emily was quite adept, netiquette et all. | [10:27] |
SuchWow | i refuse to use ignore. it's juvenile and immature imo | [10:27] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Indeed she was | [10:28] |
mircea_popescu | well apparently sometimes it's just functional. | [10:28] |
SuchWow | i just boycotted this chan for weeks | [10:28] |
BingoBoingo | Prolly one of the best | [10:28] |
SuchWow | and this week i come back, and here we are again | [10:28] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow you could just read the logs on the webpage i guess | [10:28] |
Vexual | well expect to get pinged | [10:28] |
mircea_popescu | if you dun wanna be here. | [10:28] |
SuchWow | i do | [10:28] |
BingoBoingo | until assbot goes down an leaves holes | [10:28] |
SuchWow | i just have nothing to say | [10:28] |
SuchWow | yet | [10:28] |
SuchWow | if i do | [10:28] |
SuchWow | i will let you know | [10:28] |
SuchWow | and ask for an up or whatever | [10:28] |
RagnarDanneskjol | seems like you're quite the chatterbox to me | [10:29] |
mircea_popescu | only when he has nothing to say :D | [10:29] |
* | BingoBoingo wonders what sort of alert SuchWow has set for IRC pings | [10:29] |
SuchWow | i've said nothing relevant to this chan | [10:29] |
SuchWow | whatever, troll me all you want | [10:29] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: You've said so much though in little time tonight though | [10:29] |
SuchWow | i am untrollable lol | [10:29] |
BingoBoingo | I'm serious | [10:29] |
SuchWow | ok then | [10:29] |
mircea_popescu | i am guess this whole shebang is quite revolutionary. it doesn't sit well with irc traditionz at all. | [10:29] |
SuchWow | it's just a simple popup box that flashes | [10:30] |
Vexual | many theme | [10:30] |
BingoBoingo | You are highlighting parts of the infrastructure that work well | [10:30] |
SuchWow | andthe chan is a diff color | [10:30] |
SuchWow | that's all my alert is | [10:30] |
SuchWow | but with 70 chans | [10:30] |
SuchWow | ya know? | [10:30] |
* | BingoBoingo imagined 1200 watts of sound or something | [10:30] |
SuchWow | whatever it's cool | [10:30] |
SuchWow | y'all have your own weird way of doing things | [10:30] |
SuchWow | and that;s cool | [10:30] |
mpmcsweeney | the great IRC stream | [10:30] |
SuchWow | just stop upping me unless i ask for it | [10:31] |
BingoBoingo | It will prolly only get weirder | [10:31] |
SuchWow | the people upping me know who i am | [10:31] |
SuchWow | that's why i'm asking | [10:31] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow amusingly enough : even if you were added to assbot l2 : you probably would not up yoruself every time you joined | [10:31] |
SuchWow | if i really have something to say | [10:31] |
BingoBoingo | Well, no. You could be a nicksquatter | [10:31] |
mircea_popescu | and so people would STILL up you | [10:31] |
SuchWow | i will ask | [10:31] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ident SuchWow | [10:31] |
gribble | Nick 'SuchWow', with hostmask 'SuchWow!~SuchWow@unaffiliated/suchwow', is not identified. | [10:31] |
SuchWow | clearly i am identified | [10:31] |
SuchWow | and not a squatter | [10:31] |
SuchWow | you are now super clearly a troll | [10:31] |
SuchWow | enjoy your perma voice lol | [10:31] |
mircea_popescu | there's a special gribble ident assbot uses | [10:31] |
mircea_popescu | not the nickserv one. | [10:31] |
mircea_popescu | this is gpg-based. | [10:31] |
SuchWow | yes i know that | [10:31] |
SuchWow | i don't use -otc | [10:32] |
BingoBoingo | gribble> Nick 'SuchWow', with hostmask 'SuchWow!~SuchWow@unaffiliated/suchwow', is not identified. << WHat part of not identified is challenging? | [10:32] |
SuchWow | ok someone tell me the command i need to use to id with gribble | [10:32] |
SuchWow | and i will type that | [10:32] |
mircea_popescu | ;;eauth and ;;everify. | [10:32] |
gribble | (eauth |
[10:32] |
SuchWow | if that is what needs to be done | [10:32] |
SuchWow | ;;eauth | [10:32] |
gribble | (eauth |
[10:32] |
decimation | I guess I started all this. One way of remaining silent in the face of being upped - is to remain silent | [10:32] |
mircea_popescu | no i was just explaining that even if you did it it wouldn't help you. | [10:32] |
SuchWow | ;;eauth SuchWow | [10:32] |
gribble | Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. | [10:32] |
RagnarDanneskjol | http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets | [10:33] |
assbot | first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] | [10:33] |
BingoBoingo | So ;;eregister | [10:33] |
SuchWow | ;;eregister SuchWow | [10:33] |
gribble | (eregister |
[10:33] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: because blacks vote 99% democrat, therefore making their opinions on any political matter void << i dun think this is true. << what part, the 99% or the irrelevant? | [10:33] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow basically, the infrastructure is new, and there isn't an answer for everoyne's needs. you're a poster child for this problem. | [10:33] |
SuchWow | it's cool i'll play the game | [10:34] |
mircea_popescu | decimation both. they doin't vote 99% for one, and if they did, their oppinions would be relevant. | [10:34] |
SuchWow | what is the GPG | [10:34] |
mircea_popescu | in the sense that with a 99% block you have nothing to gain, but a lot to lose. | [10:34] |
mircea_popescu | so you're invested in what they believe whether you like it or not. | [10:34] |
SuchWow | i will read the wiki | [10:34] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/ | [10:34] |
decimation | yeah you are right, in Maryland the actual number was 97% | [10:34] |
assbot | PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog | [10:34] |
mircea_popescu | decimation in ONE election. | [10:34] |
mircea_popescu | look at bush election say. | [10:34] |
mircea_popescu | if the democrat party puts up a 2nd generation korean dude for presidency, 99% of koreans will vote with him | [10:35] |
mircea_popescu | doth not mean they now vote democrat. | [10:35] |
penguirker | New blog post: http://thewhet.net/2014/on-selling-bitcoin-the-idea/ | [10:35] |
SuchWow | way too much work, and i'm too drunk.i guess just up me when you want, and should the day come that i care, i'll set all that up | [10:37] |
SuchWow | i'll stop bitching in the meantime | [10:37] |
SuchWow | enjoy your chan | [10:37] |
mircea_popescu | The stories all take place in the town of Gini, Virginia, with the intro sequence showing a large sign displaying: “Welcome to Gini – Proud to be a Diverse and Vibrant Community.” | [10:37] |
mircea_popescu | dude haus has a brilliant idea for a series. | [10:37] |
mircea_popescu | so is he making it ? | [10:37] |
decimation | http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html << blacks went 88% for kerry in 2004, 93% for obama in 2012 | [10:37] |
assbot | CNN.com Election 2004 | [10:37] |
decimation | http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president | [10:37] |
assbot | Presidential Race - 2012 Election Center - Elections & Politics from CNN.com | [10:37] |
fluffypony | huh | [10:38] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu | [10:38] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: I'm sorry if it seemed like I was trolling. Didn't realize you were hammered too. | [10:38] |
fluffypony | apparently I only have 4 trilema credits?? | [10:38] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony did your cookie expire ? | [10:38] |
BingoBoingo | fluffypony: Trilema restarted, put your cookie back in | [10:38] |
fluffypony | maybe - but then shouldn't I have 0 credits? | [10:38] |
SuchWow | it's all good | [10:38] |
SuchWow | i get the ideal here | [10:39] |
mircea_popescu | decimation seems you have a much stronger point than originally thought, re the 99%. | [10:39] |
SuchWow | and it's not a bad one | [10:39] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony no because all new ips get 4 for free. | [10:39] |
fluffypony | Credits: 49773. What's this ? | [10:39] |
fluffypony | much better | [10:39] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Basically the main problem here is... There's a premium set on being sure who is speaking | [10:39] |
* | trixisowned is now known as abathingape | [10:40] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Hence the hoops and the !uping passerby | [10:40] |
decimation | note that in 2004 *registered Democrats* went to kerry at 89%, blacks went 88%. Also note that black women went Obama in 2012 at 97% | [10:40] |
RagnarDanneskjol | http://contravex.com/2014/03/17/irc-yeshiva/ | [10:40] |
decimation | nationally | [10:40] |
assbot | IRC Yeshiva | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski | [10:40] |
decimation | registered democrats only went Obama 92% in 2012 | [10:40] |
SuchWow | BingoBoingo: i get it. and as it seems, it ensures proper conversation is taking place | [10:40] |
SuchWow | and as far as irc is concerned, it's really not a bad tactic | [10:41] |
mircea_popescu | decimation i never really gas about the race politics in the us, so all this is news to me. | [10:41] |
SuchWow | i just wish someone could've explained it like that to me months ago when i first arrived :) | [10:41] |
fluffypony | SuchWow: I linked you to a blog post about it | [10:41] |
* | BingoBoingo went quiet from the time logs were introduced to the time MP started the Eve corp... pretty sure other people miss my silence | [10:41] |
mircea_popescu | SuchWow a month ago you hadn't talked enough for us to know enough about you to know it'd be beneficial. | [10:41] |
SuchWow | and possibly it IS explained in the topic. but whoever reads that lol | [10:41] |
fluffypony | and you chose not to click and read | [10:41] |
SuchWow | i've NEVER ONCE talked here lol | [10:41] |
mircea_popescu | exactly. | [10:41] |
SuchWow | except about this lol | [10:41] |
Vexual | many irc | [10:42] |
mircea_popescu | it's the crying baby that gets the teat. | [10:42] |
SuchWow | yet i was upped 20 times anyways lol | [10:42] |
SuchWow | anyhow this is silly | [10:42] |
SuchWow | yes it is my fault for not reading | [10:42] |
SuchWow | partially your fault for endlessly upping me | [10:42] |
SuchWow | it's all good | [10:42] |
BingoBoingo | no | [10:42] |
SuchWow | go back to your on topic convos lol | [10:42] |
BingoBoingo | ;;google malpidity | [10:42] |
gribble | Malpidity | Bingo Blog: |
[10:42] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ud glasshole | [10:43] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glasshole | A person who constantly talks to their Google Glass, ignoring the outside world. Glasshole: "Glass do this, Glass do that." Co-rider: Shut the fuck up and enjoy the ... | [10:43] |
mircea_popescu | they got that! | [10:43] |
Vexual | kimdotcom's political apirations are getting bigger than his appetite for cheezeburgers after assets re-frozen | [10:43] |
BingoBoingo | Inquiry is never wrong until your dick explores to find out if that scab was safe or not | [10:43] |
decimation | Vexual: can you explain new zealand politics to me? it seems a cross between get-off-my-lawn and communism | [10:45] |
Vexual | yeah that t sounds approximately true, i don't know much | [10:45] |
BingoBoingo | !b 2 | [10:45] |
assbot | Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/18H3WRT.txt ) | [10:45] |
fluffypony | SuchWow: one of my dogs just epitomised my reaction to this entire conversation - http://i.imgur.com/nQujc5S.jpg | [10:45] |
Vexual | lol im green | [10:47] |
SuchWow | fluffypony: yeah that's just about how i've felt both times | [10:47] |
* | assbot removes voice from SuchWow | [10:48] |
* | The20YearIRCloud has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) | [10:48] |
BingoBoingo | Is it just me or does hanbot blog with an unstated anger and foreboding that seldom comes through in mircea_popescu posts because mircea_popescu need not give a fuck | [10:51] |
* | assbot removes voice from mpmcsweeney | [10:51] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo i was just thinking, wow look at that, all he had to do is ask. | [10:51] |
BingoBoingo | It is truly astounding | [10:52] |
BingoBoingo | The SuchWow conversation was much like why I found this situation so lulzy https://bitcoinfoundation.org/2014/08/a-bitcoin-backbone/ when I linked it yesterday | [10:56] |
assbot | A Bitcoin Backbone | The Bitcoin Foundation | [10:56] |
BingoBoingo | It wasn't one of the muppets doing something useless and taking it on that the foundation was forced to highlight, but Bluematt introducing an if you can mine this helps, but otherwise things are as they always have been | [10:58] |
mircea_popescu | !up SuchWow | [10:58] |
-assbot- | You voiced SuchWow for 30 minutes. | [10:58] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [10:58] |
SuchWow | BingoBoingo: what do you mean by that? | [10:58] |
SuchWow | because i've read both, and i don't see the comparison | [11:00] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: While the "core devs" endlessly debate a utxo command... Bluemat introduced a subnet for miners that allows them some optimization that has had the potential to be there all along. | [11:00] |
SuchWow | right i get that. what does that have to do with the conversation you all had with me earlier? | [11:00] |
BingoBoingo | SuchWow: Well imagine yourself a "core dev" imagining anyone gets automatic +v in this chan to avoid "getting pinged" | [11:01] |
SuchWow | i've never once suggested that just anyone should get automatic +v | [11:01] |
SuchWow | that's ridiculous | [11:01] |
SuchWow | all i said was | [11:02] |
SuchWow | once you +v someone a dozen times | [11:02] |
Vexual | anyone not veryone | [11:02] |
SuchWow | why not go ahead and perma it? | [11:02] |
BingoBoingo | All this time you've imagined the fault was in others curiosity about you, when the problem is joining a channel and imagining people won't be curious | [11:02] |
SuchWow | not at all | [11:02] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform pity handle turns the entire thing into such a sad pro-govt piece. | [11:02] |
mircea_popescu | he did start with good points. | [11:03] |
SuchWow | the people +ving me know who i am lol | [11:03] |
BingoBoingo | I have no idea who you are. | [11:03] |
SuchWow | you're not the one +ving me | [11:03] |
BingoBoingo | I often am +v'ing you | [11:03] |
Vexual | i v+d you | [11:03] |
Vexual | you barked, i didnt understand | [11:03] |
SuchWow | i've never 'barked' here lol | [11:04] |
BingoBoingo | !b 7 | [11:04] |
assbot | Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0F7ATG1.txt ) | [11:04] |
SuchWow | nor anywhere for that matter | [11:04] |
Vexual | steele down ginny | [11:04] |
SuchWow | anyhow, peace be with you all | [11:06] |
SuchWow | and gl with your assets | [11:06] |
BingoBoingo | !down SuchWow | [11:06] |
* | assbot removes voice from SuchWow | [11:06] |
BingoBoingo | !up SuchWow | [11:07] |
* | assbot gives voice to SuchWow | [11:07] |
* | sgnb has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [11:07] |
Vexual | don't annoy it, it might bite | [11:07] |
* | sgnb (~user@wencory.loria.fr) has joined #bitcoin-assets | [11:08] |
SuchWow | i won't, and i'm not an it, but thanks | [11:08] |
SuchWow | very kind of you all | [11:08] |
Vexual | girl or boy? | [11:08] |
BingoBoingo | Vexual: What good ole boy hasn't read Ole Yeller? | [11:08] |
punkman | don't go hiding under the bed now | [11:08] |
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BingoBoingo | !up ColinT2 | [11:10] |
* | assbot gives voice to ColinT2 | [11:10] |
BingoBoingo | Hello ColinT2 | [11:10] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ticker -- market all | [11:11] |
gribble | (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |
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BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market all | [11:11] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 503.61, vol: 14868.49085206 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 499.93, vol: 3963.18673 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 502.0, vol: 7492.16425724 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 536.15, vol: 10.96877017 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 498.372252, vol: 29018.17490000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 529.95437, vol: 9.2990123 | Volume-weighted last average: 500.39418439 | [11:11] |
SuchWow | wow forget you all, sorry i even spoke | [11:11] |
* | Vexual pats the nice doge | [11:12] |
BingoBoingo | !b 2 | [11:12] |
assbot | Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1H12V8F.txt ) | [11:12] |
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punkman | !up random_cat_ | [11:15] |
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punkman | !up cowloon | [11:16] |
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BingoBoingo | !up zling__ | [11:16] |
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BingoBoingo | !u[ pharesim | [11:16] |
BingoBoingo | !up toddf | [11:16] |
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xmj | good morning | [11:16] |
BingoBoingo | Morning | [11:16] |
Vexual | hi | [11:17] |
Vexual | can we call atc bits bones? | [11:18] |
Vexual | ThickAsThieves? | [11:19] |
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punkman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVSnqxXApH0 | [11:19] |
assbot | Maersk Gunhilde, South China Sea - South China Mall, China - 4K Time Lapse by Toby Smith - YouTube | [11:19] |
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Vexual | gopro or blackmagic? | [11:21] |
punkman | blackmagic has 4k now? cool | [11:22] |
punkman | thing needs more buttons less touch screen | [11:22] |
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decimation | punkman: careful, you might be upping people maliciously. | [11:25] |
punkman | I was going for an animal themed name theme | [11:26] |
mircea_popescu | punkman splendid. | [11:27] |
punkman | !up kermit | [11:27] |
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punkman | http://hellogiggles.com/awesome-new-invention-date-rape-drug-detecting-nail-polish | [11:34] |
assbot | Amazing New Invention: A Nail Polish That Detects Date Rape Drugs | [11:34] |
Vexual | wake up: chipped | [11:35] |
punkman | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvqYNQ5IcAAAvB7.jpg:large | [11:35] |
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Vexual | !up Heysteve dinosaw | [11:42] |
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HeySteve | hey | [11:42] |
Vexual | hi | [11:43] |
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Vexual | !up random_cat_ | [11:46] |
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Vexual | !up trixisowned abathingape | [11:48] |
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Vexual | theres a `walked into a bar' joke there somewehre | [11:50] |
Vexual | cat: ill just lick my balls | [11:51] |
Vexual | horse: ill watch the cat | [11:51] |
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mircea_popescu | "An undergraduate team at North Carolina State University might have just revolutionized your make-up drawer. The four students are working to develop a" | [11:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00063809 = 16.1437 BTC [+] | [11:58] |
mircea_popescu | not quite the same as the title. | [11:58] |
punkman | it's not equivalent? | [11:59] |
mircea_popescu | equivalent it is, just... nisi valent. | [12:00] |
Vexual | dinosaur: i just got deja vu | [12:00] |
Vexual | frog: plays piano | [12:01] |
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Vexual | best trick is, the nail polis doesn't work | [12:05] |
Vexual | it got swapped out earlier in the evening | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | Vexual you saying the dorks in the photo are moles working for the international directorate of date rape ? | [12:05] |
HeySteve | http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0102772 | [12:06] |
assbot | PLOS ONE: The Science of Style: In Fashion, Colors Should Match Only Moderately | [12:06] |
Vexual | that was my fiirst impressing | [12:06] |
Vexual | put your fingers in the drink | [12:09] |
Vexual | yep, you're in the wrong place | [12:10] |
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Vexual | invent pinky paint that detects pure flake, winrar | [12:21] |
mircea_popescu | invent a condom package that detects eager sluts, save on all the rohypnol biz. | [12:32] |
Vexual | they're going about things all wrong | [12:34] |
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Vexual | !up usagi monkey | [12:43] |
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Vexual | tathagata, the father buddah, said, "With out thoughts, we make thw world." | [12:46] |
usagi | with out or with our? | [12:47] |
Vexual | with rabbit, with | [12:47] |
Vexual | that was a typo | [12:47] |
usagi | It's a real shame that stuff like buddhism is regarded as esoteric | [12:48] |
usagi | It really should have been able to merge itself a bit more into normal culture | [12:48] |
Vexual | well... | [12:48] |
Vexual | i aint the dalai lama | [12:49] |
Vexual | but im pretty sure its laregly esoteric and also normal | [12:49] |
Vexual | id wager theres more buddhists than whatever you do | [12:50] |
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HeySteve | this looks like a clever scam: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-22/south-africa-reels-unexpected-bailout-one-bank-has-modest-proposal-give-us-your-gold | [12:52] |
assbot | As South Africa Reels From Unexpected Bailout, One Bank Has A Modest Proposal: Give Us Your Gold | Zero Hedge | [12:52] |
HeySteve | wonder how long before some respectable financial institution (cough) tries this with Bitcoin | [12:52] |
usagi | "In other words, for the first time "holding" gold will pay a dividend (or in this case, interest)." | [12:53] |
usagi | I don't even know where to begin with stuff like that | [12:53] |
HeySteve | yeah, how can not holding it be holding it? | [12:54] |
usagi | Almost every single word in the sentence is wrong | [12:54] |
usagi | Well steve, there is a difference between zero value and positive zero | [12:54] |
usagi | Like if I promise to give you a thousand dollars at some point in the future, that has value | [12:55] |
HeySteve | ;;gettrust usagi | [12:57] |
gribble | Currently authenticated from hostmask usagi!~tsukino22@unaffiliated/tsukino. Trust relationship from user HeySteve to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=HeySteve&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012 | [12:57] |
HeySteve | well not $1000 worth | [12:57] |
usagi | "Investors may not hold gold in unwrought form according to South African law;" lol | [12:58] |
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usagi | actual and perceived value being completely different.. in the case of the bank the perceived value is probably very high.. The banks around here have been doing the same sort of thing for years | [12:59] |
usagi | They allow you to invest in gold but they don't actually give you the gold. | [12:59] |
usagi | It's actually impossible to ever redeem it. But the banks promise that they will buy back the gold you have on account with them should you want to sell it | [13:00] |
HeySteve | on the face of it, the bank must relend the gold in order to pay the interest | [13:02] |
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HeySteve | so it's not just trusting the bank, but their counterparties too | [13:02] |
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HeySteve | not sure why anyone would go for this, but you always get idiots | [13:03] |
usagi | Hmm yes and no | [13:03] |
HeySteve | the interest rate is way too low for the risk imo | [13:03] |
usagi | Let's say you have a reasonable amount of gold, more than a kilo say | [13:03] |
usagi | If the wrong people find out it's in your house, they will come and get it from you (and they will, and they will get it) | [13:03] |
usagi | Especially if you're in the wrong country at the time | [13:03] |
usagi | So who's going to hold your gold... Normally you have to pay for such a service but here come these nice people offering to pay you money to hold it for you | [13:04] |
HeySteve | hmm well gold does have its holding costs | [13:04] |
HeySteve | a secret buried treasure chest is a lot more secure than a bank vault I'd say | [13:05] |
HeySteve | it's like cold wallet... or coinbase? | [13:05] |
punkman | private key being the gps coordinates | [13:07] |
usagi | The only way I can imagine someone paying you to invest your gold with them is if they were selling it for an inflated price. I used to do that with TU.SILVER, I front-loaded my fee and the shipping cost into the share price | [13:07] |
xmj | huh | [13:08] |
usagi | But in any other case, if you give someone your gold and they pay you to hold it, the deal is that at some point in the future you won't be able to get it back | [13:08] |
ThickAsThieves | this conversation is making me dumb | [13:08] |
xmj | usagi: swiss banks have gold-denominated accounts | [13:08] |
usagi | Gold is really simple to understand | [13:08] |
usagi | You should be able to get this | [13:08] |
punkman | lol | [13:09] |
ThickAsThieves | not what i meant | [13:09] |
xmj | of course it's simple. | [13:09] |
usagi | Well what do you mean then tat? | [13:09] |
ThickAsThieves | dont sweat it | [13:09] |
usagi | hehehe | [13:10] |
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usagi | The value of gold expands to cover every other asset in the world including bitcoin | [13:12] |
ThickAsThieves | ... | [13:12] |
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usagi | Aha. | [13:12] |
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ThickAsThieves | beta me to it | [13:14] |
ThickAsThieves | beat* | [13:14] |
assbot | usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5 | [13:15] |
Vexual | !up usagi | [13:18] |
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usagi | Tat if you have anything of value to add, so so. | [13:19] |
usagi | do so* :p | [13:19] |
Vexual | the man who shakes his head cannot see the way forward | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony yeah, how's stuff there ? | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | !down usagi | [13:22] |
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mircea_popescu | fucking derpage. | [13:22] |
fluffypony | lol | [13:23] |
fluffypony | btw - that Michael O. Church article got sent to me today by a friend | [13:23] |
fluffypony | "this is such an amazing experiment, I'm going to try this when I next look for a job!" | [13:24] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [13:24] |
mircea_popescu | lol. | [13:24] |
mircea_popescu | well.. wish him luck. | [13:24] |
punkman | re: derpxperiments https://experiment.com/ | [13:24] |
mircea_popescu | and i dunno why zh is making such a big deal out of it. a bond anchored to gold. what's so strange about it ? | [13:24] |
assbot | Experiment | Crowdfunding Platform for Scientific Research | [13:24] |
mircea_popescu | the us reneged about 50 billion worth of them under fdr. | [13:24] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, fluffypony, still optimistic re sa ? | [13:25] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: yes | [13:25] |
xmj | why:) | [13:26] |
mircea_popescu | i wish i could find a way to bitbet this. "sa is going to shit in a handbasket" | [13:26] |
fluffypony | well | [13:26] |
xmj | shift how? | [13:26] |
Vexual | 20 million dead and half at the border from lead poisoning | [13:26] |
fluffypony | that's entirely possible, MP | [13:26] |
xmj | hm | [13:26] |
fluffypony | and we're ready to move if it happens | [13:26] |
fluffypony | but it's also possible it won't happen | [13:26] |
mircea_popescu | jewland too. it's just not in the cards for that continent, having civilised countries there. | [13:26] |
Vexual | no shit | [13:26] |
xmj | exit plans are good. | [13:26] |
fluffypony | so we're going to sweat it out | [13:26] |
mircea_popescu | it's supposed to be a hunting reservation. | [13:26] |
xmj | fluffypony: just make sure you have enough cash to bribe your way out, and a guy who can drive you through obstacles like borders and has been in the infantry. | [13:27] |
mircea_popescu | they have their cat... | [13:27] |
Vexual | drive outta za? | [13:27] |
fluffypony | Vexual: to Bots | [13:27] |
xmj | well you can take a Helicopter if you have one. | [13:28] |
Vexual | 200 miles of zombies? | [13:28] |
Vexual | *2000 | [13:28] |
xmj | I don't have a helicopter | [13:28] |
fluffypony | lol Vexual - as opposed to NZ where all you can hope to do is swim? | [13:28] |
fluffypony | :-P | [13:28] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: the timelines are also interesting - if it goes to shit we'll be out long before it gets there | [13:29] |
fluffypony | we're both EU citizens, so bailing out is a non-issue | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | not unless you get boiled like teh frog. | [13:29] |
Vexual | you'll be selling infrasructure to half of africa before you break a sweat | [13:29] |
xmj | fluffypony: what exactly do you expect for RSA's future? | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok. most of the people at katyn were eu citizens too. | [13:29] |
fluffypony | xmj: I think there will be a to-and-fro for a few more generations - whether it does a "slippery slope" on either side of the scale remains to be seen, but once its worn itself out and theres more social equilibrium it'll be stable | [13:30] |
xmj | to-and-fro what? | [13:31] |
xmj | nice, i have 15min more to procrastinate. | [13:31] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony is this predicated on the general theory that the world is by and large a friendly place and most seeds once planted reach maturity and fruition ? | [13:32] |
fluffypony | nah - people are basically full of crpa | [13:32] |
fluffypony | *crap | [13:32] |
fluffypony | xmj, to-and-fro in terms of extremes | [13:32] |
fluffypony | I mean | [13:32] |
fluffypony | you've got a large population that was opressed | [13:32] |
xmj | I understand | [13:33] |
fluffypony | and, by and large, didn't have opportunities for social improvement and education | [13:33] |
xmj | I don't know which extremese | [13:33] |
xmj | extremes* | [13:33] |
fluffypony | so now there are people who *didn't* grow up under Apartheid who are in power | [13:33] |
fluffypony | but they still carry baggage | [13:33] |
fluffypony | because they had a shit childhood as a direct or indirect result | [13:33] |
fluffypony | in another 1 or 2 or 3 generations that excuse no longer holds water | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | but after the African Bank bailout, why would anyone pay up on anything they owe to a bank there ? uncollateralized i mean. | [13:33] |
fluffypony | then you have a shit childhood because your parents are idiotic or because of circumstances, not because of something that happened in the past | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | the justifications lake was never drawn dry. | [13:34] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: yeah it's a tough one | [13:34] |
fluffypony | I'm oba-observing and seeing how things play out | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | take the us as a fine example. the black ~~~minority~~~ there STILL thinks it's your fault. | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | and you don't even live there. | [13:35] |
fluffypony | yeah the US is an interesting case | [13:35] |
fluffypony | it's been, what, 80 years since slavery went out the window? | [13:35] |
fluffypony | I don't keep track | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | got any example where the people with a good excuse generally went off the dole and built something ? | [13:35] |
xmj | hmm | [13:36] |
xmj | fluffypony: if your parents are idiots there's a 40%-80% chance you're an idiot yourself | [13:37] |
fluffypony | xmj: word | [13:37] |
mircea_popescu | i doubt intelligence even figures into all of this. | [13:37] |
xmj | i'm currently reading my way through The Bell Curve, it's illuminating. | [13:37] |
mircea_popescu | your average busker is pretty smart, yet it won't do much to have an islandful of buskers. | [13:37] |
xmj | mircea_popescu: intelligence and poverty are related more often than not. | [13:37] |
fluffypony | aight, I'm busy making stew - having people round for supper | [13:37] |
fluffypony | http://www.my-easy-cooking.com/2010/04/13/green-bean-stew-another-south-african-classic/ | [13:37] |
assbot | Green Bean Stew - Another South African classic! - My Easy Cooking | [13:37] |
fluffypony | bbl | [13:37] |
mircea_popescu | only in certain sorts of systems xmj | [13:37] |
xmj | cheers fluffypony | [13:38] |
xmj | mircea_popescu: yes, all of them. | [13:38] |
HeySteve | http://www.isteve.com/IQ_Table.htm <- worth a look when trying to guess the future of nations | [13:38] |
assbot | IQandtheWealthofNations--LynnandVanhanen--datatableofnationalmeanIQstudiessummarizedbySteveSailer | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | no. in all of them, will and poverty are related. this is why determined but unintelligent mobsters do well everywhere all the time, | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | whereas pencilneck kids only do well in certain places. | [13:38] |
xmj | HeySteve: tldr asia will domnate once they get their shit together. | [13:38] |
HeySteve | dumb mobsters may do well for themselves, but they'll drive a nation down if they're too dominant | [13:39] |
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mircea_popescu | HeySteve that's a complicated argument. the scant examples for your azn theory, for instance, all come from mobsters. | [13:40] |
mircea_popescu | the azn tigers are simply the net effect of a mob getting in power and pushing the gas to the floor. | [13:40] |
HeySteve | well I'd say we have a kleptocracy here, and the results have been poor | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | where is here ? | [13:41] |
HeySteve | south africa | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | o you live there too ? | [13:42] |
HeySteve | yep! | [13:42] |
HeySteve | not at the coast like fluffypony | [13:42] |
xmj | HeySteve: kleptocracy is yet another name for democracy | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | i have nfi, i mean from where i'm sitting it looks pretty bad and with a worse outlook, then fluffy is all like happy go lucky everything will be fine. | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | it totally throws me. | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | but yes, xmj is on point. kleptocracy != a mob. | [13:42] |
HeySteve | xmj yeah I intended it to say we have mobsters in charge here | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | but do you ? | [13:43] |
HeySteve | prez up on fraud and rape charges, diverted millions to build a palace, etc. | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | nero isn't the fucking mob. nero is just nero. | [13:43] |
xmj | mircea_popescu: democracy is the mob in charge | [13:44] |
mircea_popescu | xmj i was talking the mob as in cosa nostra, not the mob as in mobile vulgus. | [13:45] |
Vexual | not on charges | [13:45] |
mircea_popescu | Vexual one day in charge, next day on charges, eh vex ? | [13:46] |
HeySteve | SA is pretty unstable. very high unemployment and widespread poverty, a vocal revolutaionry marxist leader gaining support... | [13:46] |
HeySteve | I can't say I'm optimistic | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | so why are you staying ? | [13:47] |
HeySteve | looking for the right place to move to | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | argentina, forgetaboutit. | [13:48] |
HeySteve | why did you choose argentina? | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | cause it rocks. | [13:49] |
chetty | dollar blue 13.7 | [13:49] |
HeySteve | friends with a family from there, heard a lot of good things | [13:49] |
mircea_popescu | chetty by now whenever i change it jumps, for crying out loud. | [13:50] |
chetty | you move the market | [13:50] |
Vexual | every time he paso dobles | [13:50] |
mircea_popescu | if that's the case i should be moving it the other way lol | [13:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5000 @ 0.00122538 = 6.1269 BTC [-] {18} | [13:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 473 @ 0.0012 = 0.5676 BTC [-] {6} | [13:52] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: are the convenience stores selling bitcoin already? | [13:52] |
mircea_popescu | nah. | [13:52] |
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HeySteve | hmm will a small amount of bitcoin let me afford to live like a king in argentina yet? | [13:54] |
punkman | no | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | no, but you can probably find work, seeing how 60%ish of the population works in the gray and black market. | [13:54] |
Vexual | 256 ghanan kids in '65 scored 79iq drawing a man: 128 drew them with 3 legs | [13:55] |
HeySteve | yeah I'd say it's between South America and Australia / New Zealand | [13:55] |
HeySteve | mircea_popescu is English fairly widely spoken there? | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [13:56] |
HeySteve | ah that'd be the biggest challenge then, OZ / NZ is more about the money | [13:56] |
mircea_popescu | A weary old lecher named Blott took a luscious young blond to his yacht. | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | Too lazy to rape her he made darts out of paper, which he leisurely tossed at her twat. | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | HeySteve learn a language, it won't kill ye. | [13:57] |
Vexual | guatamala ie | [13:57] |
fluffypony | HeySteve: Zuma is no worse than Obama signing off on what the NSA does - at least what Zuma does is blatant and obvious, and not sinister and hidden | [13:57] |
fluffypony | besides - he's uneducated, he has a Grade 6 education | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | that's an unexpected defense. | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | that too. | [13:58] |
fluffypony | I'll take mildly incompetent and a little greedy from having grown up poor and uneducated | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | does this reduce to a no malice for reason of plain stupidity plea ? | [13:59] |
fluffypony | over sinister and devious in the name of "protection" | [13:59] |
fluffypony | know thine enemy | [13:59] |
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HeySteve | fluffypony, it limits what he can get away with in secret, sure... | [13:59] |
HeySteve | but it also limits my expectation of sensible forward planning | [13:59] |
fluffypony | yeah but which country has leadership with sensible forward planning? Norway? | [14:00] |
fluffypony | a country led by a visionary will be let down by the incompetence of those executing that vision | [14:00] |
fluffypony | a country led by somone incompetent at least has a chance to be propped up by the few competent ones in the middle tiers of governance | [14:01] |
HeySteve | there's a few I'd trust to ensure basic infrastructure is maintained and expanded as necessary | [14:01] |
ThickAsThieves | i was waiting at the auto repair shop a few mos ago and an old man was writing and reading limericks to me | [14:01] |
fluffypony | but every human system of leadership is flawed | [14:01] |
ThickAsThieves | stuff about the dealership | [14:01] |
ThickAsThieves | corny but fun | [14:01] |
Vexual | im stealing that one | [14:02] |
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mircea_popescu | fluffypony personally, i'm looking for visionaries i personally know. | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | it's a system that always worked well for me. | [14:02] |
fluffypony | meh - I've just written human leadership off as flawed and unworkable | [14:03] |
fluffypony | so I'll comply with whatever I am obligated to comply with by virtue of my chosen country of residence | [14:04] |
fluffypony | but beyond that I ignore them | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | heh. you need better friends. human leadership rox. | [14:04] |
fluffypony | mircea_popescu: I'm already a benevolent dictator in my own little fish-pond, so it's not like I need to concern myself with those governmental humans that consider themselves my leaders :-P | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | hehe i guess that works. | [14:05] |
Vexual | perhaps you're a communist | [14:06] |
fluffypony | Vexual: well I did marry a German... | [14:06] |
fluffypony | and she's from East Germany | [14:08] |
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mircea_popescu | An amazon giantess named Dunne let a midget screw her for fun. | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | But the poor little runt was engulfed in her cunt and re-born as the twin of his son. | [14:08] |
fluffypony | hah hah | [14:08] |
fluffypony | <3 | [14:08] |
fluffypony | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=748767.0 | [14:08] |
assbot | Some Altcoin poetry | [14:08] |
fluffypony | I wrote a couple there | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | An architect fellow named Yoric could, when feeling euphoric, display for selection three kinds of erection- Corinthian, Ionic, and Doric. | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony why do they hate on you so ? | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | fucking idiots those people, you can show them a finger, they can say what's wrong with it. | [14:11] |
fluffypony | I guess he didn't like being corrected :-P | [14:11] |
Vexual | thrice | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony has it ever occured to you that perhaps you're picking up habits and forming expectations of the world here that'll make it difficult to fit in the rest of the internets ? | [14:12] |
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fluffypony | heh | [14:13] |
fluffypony | I once had a girlfriend break up with me because I kept correcting her 11 year old sister's grammar (kid's gotta learn before it becomes too ingrained, yo) | [14:13] |
fluffypony | so I guess I've always been an opinionated prick :-P | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | uh | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | how the fuck does that work, shouldn't sisters enjoy their sibling;s torment ? | [14:14] |
fluffypony | she was from the Overprotective R Us school of thought | [14:14] |
chetty | nah, not sisters with some age spread, mothering instincts kick in | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | chetty ah good point' | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony was she over 18 ? | [14:15] |
fluffypony | yes | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | so you see what you did wrong there. | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | were she 15 you'd have been fine. | [14:15] |
fluffypony | well I was 20 or 21 at the time | [14:16] |
fluffypony | I was trying out someone my age | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of which, "An old electronic designer had designs on a minor named Dinah. He couldn't carry them out for his prick was too stout, and too small was the minor's vagina." | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | check out what FILTH!!1 gets distributed with linux | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | into the unsuspecting homes of erryday goodfolk. | [14:17] |
fluffypony | lol | [14:18] |
fluffypony | arrest them! | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | off with their heads. | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | An old man at the Folies Bergere had a jock, a most wondrous affair: It snipped off a twat-curl from each new chorus girl, and he had a wig made of the hair. | [14:19] |
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Textual | http://online.wsj.com/articles/ebola-virus-firsts-suspected-case-in-ireland-1408703882 | [14:19] |
assbot | Ebola Virus: Dead Irishman Tests Negative - WSJ | [14:19] |
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[]bot | Bet created: "LTC to over $6.50 USD before Oct 5th" http://bitbet.us/bet/1031/ | [14:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063578 = 7.979 BTC [-] | [14:49] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27092 @ 0.00063602 = 17.2311 BTC [+] {2} | [14:58] |
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BingoBoingo | Frontpage was so bad | [23:15] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform no surprises here. << not sure what his story is. | [23:17] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform architectural style. << this is such a lol, because yes they do it, it's almost as if trying to copy own glory moments resulting in cheap tourist shop replicas. just... why! | [23:22] |
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mircea_popescu | whole place looks like latter day rome on this account. forum this, baths that, bla bla bla. | [23:22] |
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mircea_popescu | http://peaceandmarkets.com/2014/08/24/cheat-on-bitcoin-with-hyper-itll-be-your-loss/ | [23:24] |
assbot | Cheat on Bitcoin with HYPER? It’ll be Your Loss | Peace and Markets | [23:24] |
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BingoBoingo | %p | [23:25] |
atcbot | No data returned from CoinMiner.net | [23:25] |
atcbot | [PityThePool Hashrate]: 700.94 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.28 TH/s | [23:25] |
BingoBoingo | %d | [23:26] |
atcbot | [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 233849.46 in 1781 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -87.55 | [23:26] |
BingoBoingo | http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2014/08/21/high-school-student-arrested-for-writing-story-about-shooting-dinosaur/ | [23:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13994 @ 0.0006377 = 8.924 BTC [-] | [23:34] |
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BingoBoingo | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=749980.0 | [23:47] |
assbot | Proof of dishonesty and lies from Gawminers.com Hashlet Ponzi Scheme Scam | [23:47] |
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BingoBoingo | https://flexhash.com/ | [23:51] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 80 @ 0.01029999 = 0.824 BTC [-] | [23:52] |
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