Forum logs for 22 Oct 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
TravisPatron !register E465FB9F065F4BF966AF465407CC5D7C4A0208B8 [00:03]
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BingoBoingo !rate TravisPatron 1 Newcomer, easy come easy go on the tits [00:04]
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BingoBoingo What brings you around here TravisPatron ?? [00:08]
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BingoBoingo !up TravisPatron Mebbe introduce yourself? [00:23]
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mircea_popescu Duffer1 sadly, no. [00:24]
mircea_popescu TravisPatron so who're you ? [00:25]
lobbes he's a strong silent type [00:27]
BingoBoingo I think he has some sort of tiff with the Dushmaster. Easy come easy go. [00:27]
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mircea_popescu oic. [00:30]
* TravisPatron waves hello [00:34]
mircea_popescu so here's a bizarre matter of fact : if one were to buy a dozen candles and emplace them on a windowsil, so that they're at different heights (say two inches differential tallest to shortest) and let them burn for a half hour or whatever it takes to finger a girl to exhaustion, [00:42]
mircea_popescu they will all burn at the same level. [00:42]
mircea_popescu candle consensus height wtf. [00:42]
* BingoBoingo has played with that before. Candlechain FTW [00:43]
mircea_popescu lol [00:44]
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BingoBoingo TravisPatron: If you've got questions about how voice works, try to keep it in the public channel. We're stangers after all. [00:49]
BingoBoingo TravisPatron: If you aren't sure how to use commandline GPG correctly, maybe just fire up emacs and let that handle finding things? [00:50]
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BingoBoingo Fuck, Steven Segal got fat [01:00]
mircea_popescu what was the alternative, cancer ? [01:04]
BingoBoingo Prolly. Either that or elected office. [01:04]
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BingoBoingo Let the lulz begin! [01:18]
pete_dushenski bwahah indeed [01:19]
pete_dushenski << wonder if gribble actually sent this one through lol [01:19]
assbot Logged on 04-07-2015 21:08:55; pete_dushenski: ;;later tell travispatron you sucked before, you suck now, and you will always suck. enjoy the periphery, derp. [01:19]
BingoBoingo Also latest South Park, worth it [01:19]
pete_dushenski <--> and [01:20]
assbot Logged on 22-10-2015 03:24:07; mircea_popescu: TravisPatron so who're you ? [01:20]
assbot 5 simple rules for blogging, linking to sources, commenting, and generally making sense on the Internet. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [01:21]
assbot The economics of sinking Garzikcoin aka BIP 100. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [01:21]
pete_dushenski honestly, i'm absolutely flabbergasted that 'travispatron' showed up here and registered a key. like someone pick me up off the floor plox. [01:21]
BingoBoingo He's voiced [01:22]
pete_dushenski and now that he's in your wot, he can self-voice too :) [01:22]
BingoBoingo For now, easy come easy go, as the line says [01:22]
BingoBoingo Figured maybe I'd be asleep and waking up to a convo in the logs would be a great way to start the morning [01:23]
pete_dushenski << pic looks 50x better than ripped-off 'bitcoin backs time' video i skipped through a few months back. [01:24]
assbot Logged on 22-10-2015 03:27:28; hanbot: this guy [01:24]
pete_dushenski TravisPatron: anyways, hello again. [01:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00054151 = 4.5487 BTC [+] {3} [01:25]
pete_dushenski TravisPatron: i see you've skipped numbers 1 and 2 and shot over straight to 3 and 4 from my last letter to you. any plans to rectify this oversight ? [01:26]
pete_dushenski namely, and i quote "1. Humbly submit before me, which is to say, drop the fake bullshit where you pretend like we’re equals and you play it all cool like I’m doing ~you~ some sort of favour by reading whatever shannonised shards you’ve cobbled together into sentences. 2. Acknowledge that the Internet most certainly has rules, and apologise publicly for your previous transgressions." [01:27]
asciilifeform watch it be some unrelated schmuck, going 'wtf' [01:28]
pete_dushenski lolz! [01:29]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: let him voice himself next time [01:30]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: He's gotta figure it out [01:30]
pete_dushenski i wanna see him step up the plate unassisted [01:30]
pete_dushenski up to* [01:32]
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TravisPatron pete_dushenski claims I stole his article entitled 'Does Time Back Bitcoin or Bitcoin Back Time'. In response, he posted a completely uncalled for comment on our website - I responded by giving him due attribution to his article because his article sparked my interest - far from plagiarism. He then continued with rude comments and posted a completely unprofessional article on his Contravex blog. The article I wrote was never stol [01:34]
TravisPatron en, it was completely original. All of our work at is original and will continue to be. The bitcoin community has many enemies. We do not need to be making enemies of one another. The actions of pete_dushenski demonstrate his character and it is one not needed in this industry. [01:34]
BingoBoingo TravisPatron: But you have to admit, you are kind of a stranger to the actual Bitcoin industry [01:35]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: you don't understand how the world works, bitcoin needs more professionalism and less making enemies of one another [01:37]
BingoBoingo "In my safe space..." [01:38]
pete_dushenski << except E465FB9F065F4BF966AF465407CC5D7C4A0208B8 matches the key from previous correspondence ;/ [01:40]
assbot Logged on 22-10-2015 04:27:39; asciilifeform: watch it be some unrelated schmuck, going 'wtf' [01:40]
liquidassets investors don't even want to HEAR the word bitcoin anymore, you guyz are ruining it! [01:40]
pete_dushenski and yea, the above is sufficiently corroborating [01:41]
pete_dushenski liquidassets: how about nioctib ? [01:41]
liquidassets is that how it works on ebay now? [01:42]
pete_dushenski or pig latin : coinbitay [01:42]
mircea_popescu hm, is there drama ? [01:42]
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mircea_popescu TravisPatron dun sweat it too much, i don't think pete_dushenski aims to be all that professional [01:43]
mircea_popescu whatever that may mean. [01:43]
liquidassets excited I got my first shares of mpoe today [01:43]
liquidassets but seems that it doesn't pay dividend anymore? [01:44]
mircea_popescu investors don't even want to HEAR the word bitcoin anymore, you guyz are ruining it! << said investors' daughters coming up next. [01:44]
pete_dushenski bbias [01:46]
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pete_dushenski back [01:52]
liquidassets They'll make faster learners MP [01:53]
pete_dushenski << ;) [01:53]
assbot Logged on 21-10-2015 23:09:42; mircea_popescu: quite exactly. [01:53]
mircea_popescu experience seems to indicate. [01:54]
liquidassets woman seem to in general be faster learners [01:54]
mircea_popescu bitcoin needs ustard "investors" like isis needs a shipment of dildos. [01:54]
pete_dushenski i bet a few of them have mpex keys [01:55]
pete_dushenski i mean seats [01:56]
BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: Buttcoin loves U too [01:57]
assbot London School of Economics Shits on Bitcoin VC Investments : Buttcoin ... ( ) [01:57]
liquidassets fuck they want anyway, I'm so tuned out with the latest [01:57]
pete_dushenski why the fuck is there that some 'citigroup' banner glued to the bottom of r/buttcoin ? [01:59]
mircea_popescu must be comedic. [01:59]
pete_dushenski "It's hilarious that they also think Lawsky left due to the outrage from the bitcoin community.." mkay [01:59]
mircea_popescu haha who thinks this ? [02:00]
BingoBoingo Because citigroups has as little to do against buttcoin as it can Bitcoin [02:00]
mircea_popescu lawski left because i canned his dumb ass. [02:00]
pete_dushenski [02:00]
assbot mikeyouse comments on London School of Economics Shits on Bitcoin VC Investments ... ( ) [02:00]
* mircea_popescu is too lazy to click on reddit because wutevs. [02:01]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: the assbot feed is all you need : 'mikeyouse' is your answer [02:02]
mircea_popescu nick doesn't ring a bell [02:02]
pete_dushenski he's no stubnuts [02:02]
BingoBoingo Not mine [02:03]
pete_dushenski !s stubnuts [02:04]
assbot 3 results for 'stubnuts' : [02:04]
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pete_dushenski TravisPatron: pete_dushenski claims I stole << ftr you plagiarised, which is to stealing what not calling your sister back is to taking her virginity [02:06]
mircea_popescu waitwut [02:06]
pete_dushenski which part ? [02:07]
mircea_popescu any of it. [02:08]
BingoBoingo Apparently a bunch of lamestream journos fell for << note the .co [02:10]
assbot ... ( ) [02:10]
mircea_popescu "The purpose of the note isn't to convey information, it is to convey mood, and the seemingly random and contradictory positions he takes on issues is all in an attempt to win you, the reader, over to his side. He knows for sure he is angry, he knows for sure he feels wronged, but he can't logically and realistically link the real world events to his level of anger." [02:10]
BingoBoingo ;;google south park sued by yelp [02:10]
gribble Yelp Sues South Park For $10 Million Over Latest Episode - NBC ...: ; No, Yelp Is Not Suing 'South Park' for $10 Million - Eater: ; FALSE: Yelp Sues South Park for $10 Million Over Latest Episode ...: (1 more message) [02:10]
mircea_popescu ok, tlp fucks up the joe stack thing something incredible. [02:10]
mircea_popescu << [02:11]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Rage Of The Average Joe ... ( ) [02:11]
mircea_popescu whole lotta "nothing can justify killing so lalalala i can't hear you whatever you say is gonna be 'can't logically and realistically link' blabla!11" [02:11]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: ok so travispatron grabbed a quote from an article of mine without proper attribution or link. i wouldn't have known had he not left a comment on my original article with an embedded link back to his rip-off. the gall. anyways, i do up an 'unprofessional' article clarifying the do's and don't of blogging and commenting. he continues to ostrich. life goes on for another few months. he hoity-toitel [02:13]
pete_dushenski y asks me for feedback on an article. i tell him do 1-2-3-4 and we'll talk. no answer. more time passes. then he shows up here with 'pete said i stole but i didn't', which i happen to agree with. he plagiarised. [02:13]
mircea_popescu so then he linked and whatever, isn't disputing you inspired him or w/e ? [02:13]
pete_dushenski all's well but the claim that 'pete said i stole', for whatever that's worth, which probably isn't much truth be told [02:14]
pete_dushenski so ya, all good [02:15]
mircea_popescu gotta loosen up petey. [02:16]
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pete_dushenski ha, tell me something i don't know [02:17]
pete_dushenski being around this much crying isn't without consequences ! [02:17]
* pete_dushenski doesn't actually have it that bad... [02:18]
mircea_popescu you ever seen daisy diamond ? [02:18]
pete_dushenski possibly but the name doesn't ring a bell [02:18]
mircea_popescu well, if you wanna rattle mrs dushenski, sit her down for that flick. [02:18]
mircea_popescu (romanian, tho.) [02:19]
assbot Daisy Diamond on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [02:19]
pete_dushenski i'll keep that in my back pocket in case a particularly mundane stretch of parenting should eclipse :) [02:20]
* BingoBoingo still hopes to be around in five years when pete_dushenski decides on boarding school as the appropriate course for young Pantagruel's Kindergarten [02:21]
pete_dushenski haha! [02:21]
BingoBoingo How else is he going to have to opportunity to tap dat teacher ass? [02:21]
pete_dushenski what am i, british ? [02:21]
BingoBoingo Candadian with is exactly british. The Royal cunt is still on your money. [02:22]
pete_dushenski s/money/toilet paper [02:22]
BingoBoingo Still more British than Scotland, which at least talks publically of leaving. [02:22]
pete_dushenski ftr the only 'mrs. dushenski' in this city is one of my aunts. not even in meatwot as i rarely see her. [02:24]
mircea_popescu o you're not even weddified ?! [02:24]
pete_dushenski au contraire, i just don't play with wimminz who aren't sufficiently independent and self-made to warrant losing their maiden names ! [02:26]
BingoBoingo << Sports media is censoring the part where Beast Mode is pro-Bitcoin. More quality USD likely coming into Bitcoin from Athletics than Silicon Valley. [02:26]
assbot Marshawn Lynch is doling out financial advice to teammates. ... ( ) [02:26]
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mircea_popescu intereskin. [02:26]
BingoBoingo Marshawn is interesting, too short to get hit that hard in the head. Kinda like Bernard Hopkins in the way he fucks with reporters. [02:28]
BingoBoingo An extra inch and a half of height and he'd probably be as crippled as the former running backs his age. Even if he till he's that beat to retire still likely got more left in his head than fucking Altman. [02:30]
BingoBoingo Does the vague "I like Bitcoin" thing instead of the Mike Tyson "I need to keep the heat on this winter, and scamzors are paying" thing. [02:31]
BingoBoingo Still doesn't lurk here so probably getting scammed in at least 1 shart up [02:32]
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assbot I’d Rather Watch Hitler Rape My Mom Than Date a Woman My Own Age | delicioustacos ... ( ) [02:35]
mircea_popescu << omfg this is the epiphany of all time. observe this insanity at work : [02:36]
BingoBoingo << Or Maybe Japan is completely unsuited for electricty generation at all [02:36]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: The Massacre Of The Unicorns II ... ( ) [02:36]
assbot Japan should restart more nuclear power plants | Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists ... ( ) [02:36]
mircea_popescu 1. what is depression ? uhhhh ; 2. do you know how they measure it ? hamiltonian scale. most of which is sleep loss and weight loss. ; 3. do you know what zyprexa is ? "antidepressant", aka a sedative that fattens you. [02:37]
mircea_popescu jesus fucking christ this is going to be my go-to test-taking optimization example from now on. [02:37]
BingoBoingo 3. do you know what zyprexa is ? "antidepressant", aka a sedative that fattens you. << Only a thing, because the tend is nao labeling "depression" as "bipolar depression" when patients are a pain so this a the excuse to stick them on an anti-manic/anti-psychotic like zyprexa. Get them outta the civilized clinic and into the medicaid one [02:40]
mircea_popescu aha. [02:41]
mircea_popescu im not disputing that the system works within its own logic. i'm merely saying, that "logic" is neither self aware nor to be approached like a human endeavour. it's monkey business, bring chisels. [02:41]
BingoBoingo Olanzapiene (trade name: Zyprexa) is approved for acute mania, which in clinical practice turns into Bipolar in general. The side effects it shares with Haldol are gentler with Zyprexa, but introduces new ones like Da Beetus. [02:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: That is an insult to monkeys [02:43]
pete_dushenski << monkey business [02:43]
mircea_popescu but diabethes is good for you. moar checks. [02:43]
assbot The Monkey Business Illusion - YouTube ... ( ) [02:43]
BingoBoingo Different doctor though takes the money for treating the Beetus [02:44]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo just between you and me and anyone who might care to listen in, i don't like monkeys. none, at all. would not object to a plan to exterminate all monkey types, nor do i see much value in preservation of images, records and such. [02:44]
BingoBoingo I'm indifferent to monkeys. Part of me says lets get rid of this disease vector. Another part wonders what they did to me other than Obola. [02:45]
mircea_popescu all through the "endangered gorillas" craze of the 90s all i could think was "these people seriously need better hobbies" [02:45]
BingoBoingo Gorillas are funny though in an ironic sense. 800 lb primates with inch and a half cocks and abrely any balls. Basically US police officers. Carl Mark Force IV in the fur. [02:46]
mircea_popescu i also don't happen to think that "anthropology" conducted on the various types of monkey has any value whatsoever. it's roughly on the level of freud's practice, bored rich impotent folk want to play with their cock "elevatedly". [02:47]
mircea_popescu sure, they have some value as rat substitutes for biological/biochemistry research. not much from what i can tell, rats are cheaper and faster. [02:47]
mircea_popescu other than that, "studying" monkeys to "understand" people is not unlike bugging the neighbour's appartment to "understand" why your wife cheated on you. [02:48]
BingoBoingo Mice faster still. Occasionally dogs and bunny rabbits, make still more specific targets than apes. [02:48]
mircea_popescu different fucking houses yo. and the usual ignorance with "we descended from monkeys" is particularly poignant. [02:48]
mircea_popescu no, we did not. both monkeys and us descdended from the same thing. which was not a monkey. [02:48]
BingoBoingo We didn't "descend" from them. We split after an angry christmas holiday. [02:48]
mircea_popescu but otherwise, chimps and people evolved the same time interval, and separately. so go ask geese, for the same money. [02:48]
BingoBoingo other than that, "studying" monkeys to "understand" people is not unlike bugging the neighbour's appartment to "understand" why your wife cheated on you. << Makes the basis of a number of pulp murder mysteries. [02:49]
mircea_popescu sure sure, and king kong. [02:49]
mircea_popescu i never saw it. [02:49]
BingoBoingo My narrative of the split is that brother chimp was happy with just taking the jungle fruit welfare, and brother man decided fuck that and made the ground his bitch inventing agriculture. [02:50]
mircea_popescu there's a huge gap between the split and agriculture. you're missing the voice, pastoral life, a lot. [02:51]
mircea_popescu << voice. big deal. [02:52]
assbot The bicameral world : in one room, the city dump. In the other room, the starred restaurant. Do these talk to each other ? Read on to find out! on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [02:52]
BingoBoingo Then again Romanian education presented to mircea_popescu the blowjob slut bonobo as the "chimp" and cannibal violence machine is presented in Anglophone culture as the chimp. [02:52]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo it's the way of over there. ro notion of bear is mostly "this cute thing". [02:52]
BingoBoingo there's a huge gap between the split and agriculture. you're missing the voice, pastoral life, a lot. << A lot, but fuckers didn't write shit down [02:53]
BingoBoingo Here bear alternates. Bear you can punch and Bear you can't punch co-exist. [02:53]
BingoBoingo But still here all cats of a certain size are still on the walk away and buy a big dog list. [02:54]
BingoBoingo Then again in parts of south Asia Elephants are friendly tractors until they need to get their nut off and turn into murder machines [02:57]
mircea_popescu from what i gather the latter behaviour is mostly human-reactive. [03:01]
mircea_popescu much like the teenager is only "unruly" if dumbass anette bening of a mother keeps getting in the way, [03:01]
BingoBoingo Could be. [03:01]
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BingoBoingo "Pierre Eymard and friends were studying novel antieplieptics, and used dipropylacetic acid (a solvent) as both an intravenous vehicle for the drug, and as placebo. They observed that the placebo worked, too, preventing seizures at the higher concentrations. If this had been a phenotype without visible effects, it would have been a perfectly ordinary conclusion that drug was not better than dipropylacetic acid-- aka Depakote" [03:15]
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BingoBoingo "In order for it to be successfully rebranded, everyone who learned it the other way has to die." [03:18]
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BingoBoingo IGN was never good, but they made the never list. If you have literally anything better to do with your time than monkeythropology skip [03:37]
assbot South Park: "Safe Space" Review - IGN ... ( ) [03:37]
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punkman [04:25]
BingoBoingo punkman: I think they got the season long storyline thing down now after trying it last year. [04:29]
punkman BingoBoingo: what was last season's theme? [04:32]
BingoBoingo Social media narcissism [04:32]
punkman this season is not bad so far [04:33]
BingoBoingo Less coherent though [04:33]
BingoBoingo This season as a whole I think so far matches their best single episodes in the bast [04:33]
BingoBoingo *past [04:33]
punkman look ma no hands!!!11 [04:34]
assbot Tesla Model S version 7 Autopilot Speeding Ticket Auto Steering Demo on Streets, Highway, Traffic - YouTube ... ( ) [04:34]
BingoBoingo Tesla pretty much killed all its PR goodwill in a week [04:36]
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kakobrekla Flash Unavailable - We are having trouble playing this video. [08:37]
jurov nothing important anyway [08:37]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [11:20]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 275.8, Best ask: 275.84, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 275.82, 24 hour volume: 24411.82846246, 24 hour low: 267.13, 24 hour high: 279.97, 24 hour vwap: None [11:20]
shinohai $275 O.o [11:22]
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shinohai <<< truth [12:18]
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mod6 The Bitcoin Foundation is one year old today. Happy Birthday! [12:31]
mircea_popescu happy bday! [12:33]
shinohai o/ [12:36]
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ben_vulpes my how time flies [12:47]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: my own personal uranium mines [12:48]
ben_vulpes shinohai: tolerate schmolerate [12:48]
ben_vulpes do you just let the toilet leak? [12:49]
shinohai Nothing duct tape can't fix. [12:49]
ben_vulpes duct tape can't fix steel beams. [12:51]
mircea_popescu where's that engineering fixkit [12:53]
mircea_popescu "does it move ? should it ?" [12:53]
shinohai Vagina is dry, little wd-40 mebbe. [12:57]
ben_vulpes i just glare [12:57]
ben_vulpes shinohai: a woman recently told me that "caring for her family was the most rewarding job [she'd] ever had" [13:03]
ben_vulpes why is that attitude so uncommon? [13:04]
mircea_popescu does it move ? yes -> should it ? yes no problem / no -> duct tape | no -> should it ? yes wd40 no - >no p[roblem [13:04]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes because it makes zero fucking sense. it is not a job. [13:05]
mircea_popescu the only people who go "sitting quietly in the car is the best car driving they ever did" are mentally ill 15 yos. [13:05]
mircea_popescu who a) should not be driving ; b) want to be driving ; c) can't find a sane way out of this. [13:06]
ben_vulpes what the work of cooking and cleaning and throwing dinner parties isn't work somehow? [13:06]
mircea_popescu it is not. [13:06]
mircea_popescu if you think it is, train a slave to do it at home, try to hire a brutha to do it at your diner. [13:06]
mircea_popescu see how they compare, see why. [13:06]
ben_vulpes sounds like quite a lot of work to me [13:07]
mircea_popescu work != job. [13:07]
mircea_popescu labour != value [13:07]
mircea_popescu etc etc. [13:07]
ben_vulpes i value the place's cleanliness, tidiness and general quality of things and food around [13:08]
mircea_popescu good for you! [13:08]
mircea_popescu but the POINT of jobs is for the employees to be fungible. the point of house slaves is for the slaves to be the opposite of fungible. [13:08]
ben_vulpes aha, this [13:08]
mircea_popescu among other many things. they're really orthogonal things. [13:08]
mircea_popescu why the fuck would the woman have to apologize for not being retarded by calling what she does ia job is beyond me. [13:09]
ben_vulpes *parser error* [13:09]
mircea_popescu "caring for her family was the most rewarding job [she'd] ever had" aka "my domestic slavery is a much more fulfilling, pleasant and empowering personal situation than your job will ever hope to get". that's what it is. [13:10]
mircea_popescu "o but we decided slavery is bad". yeah, like ballas decided killing is never right. [13:10]
shinohai Sounds like my ex wife for sure. [13:10]
ben_vulpes perhaps (iiuyc) it's the american tic of 'job'. [13:10]
mircea_popescu deeper than that. it's the american tic of raceysm. [13:10]
ben_vulpes wuthao [13:10]
shinohai Fulfilling because her fat American ass wasn't going to do any of that. [13:10]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: how does 'raceysm' figure into this [13:12]
mircea_popescu because "raceysm" is the shorthand for a social convention, that's on one hand nonsensical, and on the other precludes people who are slaves from addressing their slavery as such. it must be called something else. because lo and behold, a person who does work for no pay at the behest of her masters is now "in a job" hurr durr. [13:13]
mircea_popescu what's wrong with just introducing yourself as "domestic slave" ? oh, i saw that in a film once. better call it "housewife" [13:13]
mircea_popescu o wait no, that's bad also. gotta call it what, motherjob now ? [13:14]
ben_vulpes aheyheahuhea [13:14]
ben_vulpes tis one of the jobs alf would kill for [13:14]
mircea_popescu except it's not a job and so he can't have it. [13:14]
ben_vulpes "i don't care how long you sleep or how long it takes you but this place better be clean and my underwear rolled in that drawer" [13:14]
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ben_vulpes 'jobs' [13:14]
mircea_popescu see how the culture subtly ensures people are unhappy ? [13:14]
mircea_popescu he can't see all this because reasons, of the TYPE of the reason that's "raceysm" even if not exactly identical. [13:15]
ben_vulpes he's a russian, they're genetically already ensured to be unhappy [13:15]
mircea_popescu no, they're genetically ensured to be wistful. [13:15]
mircea_popescu they gotta be unhappy on their own dime. [13:15]
ben_vulpes mother, another unfungible role. [13:17]
mircea_popescu "oh but being a slave is bad!11". sure. except if you believe this someone will extract value out of you by calling it something else. "but i already do that, you think this brand name medicine is worth the difference from generics ?" right-o. [13:17]
ben_vulpes yeah but i also don't care to have that conversation every single day [13:17]
mircea_popescu exactly. [13:17]
mircea_popescu "son, your mother has cancer. here's a line-up of applicants for the job." [13:17]
ben_vulpes "wife" works around here. [13:17]
mircea_popescu i have the blessed chomsky advantage. apparently this is rare, but, i don't mind bothering people. [13:18]
ben_vulpes chomsky advantage? [13:18]
mircea_popescu yeah. not giving a shit about having the same conversation with different dumb people every day. [13:19]
mircea_popescu (more precisely : not giving enough of a shit to cave - mowing down the dumb people doesn't count.) [13:19]
ben_vulpes strikes me as a colossal waste of time, but then again i'm not a fantastically wealthy financier. [13:21]
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ben_vulpes my domain is small and the fields need working if we are to eat through the winter. [13:22]
* ben_vulpes to the mines [13:22]
mircea_popescu and getting back to slavery (as a historical consturct this time) and the subtle perversion of culture : in the ten billion discussions of how badly antebellum slaves had it that point out that they were being educated (misrepresented as "beatings" and horror, of course), how many stop to point out that a) they didn't starve periodically like their northern counterparts and b) if they behaved had lifetime, even GENERAT [13:22]
mircea_popescu IONAL security ? [13:22]
mircea_popescu "oh, slavery meant immunity from foreclosure ?" "be a good non-slave jobsman and don't thionk about that!" [13:23]
mircea_popescu "wait, for them and their grandkids ? my family was foreclosed on five times in three generations! " "don't you have it so much better ? FORTY ACRES AND A MULE!!1" [13:23]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes it is a collosal waste of time. the problem with time however is that it can be but wasted - whatever you do with it can not be traded for the time it took. not at a profit, not at all. so... waste, all of it anyway. [13:24]
mircea_popescu but yes, i agree, it's a waste. [13:25]
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assbot Jimmy Carter Offers Help for Russia’s Bombing Campaign in Syria - Washington Free Beacon ... ( ) [13:51]
ascii_field << wai wut. [13:53]
assbot Logged on 22-10-2015 16:13:14; ben_vulpes: tis one of the jobs alf would kill for [13:53]
ascii_field << nobody abolished slavery, ever. but a few generations of ascendant industrial degenerates ~did~ find a way to dispense with the parts they disliked - the ones where you have to actually care for your pets [13:55]
assbot Logged on 22-10-2015 16:22:03; mircea_popescu: "oh, slavery meant immunity from foreclosure ?" "be a good non-slave jobsman and don't thionk about that!" [13:55]
mircea_popescu aha. [13:55]
mircea_popescu which is stupid in the first place. it's like dispensing with the part of your food that you don't like - where it nourishes you. [13:56]
mircea_popescu well done Anorexia! [13:56]
ascii_field hey they also did this. [13:56]
ascii_field (in usa, one can buy, e.g., potato chips, that emerge straight from your arse chemically unchanged) [13:56]
mircea_popescu olestra ftw! [13:58]
mircea_popescu anywya, more power for them, glhf, all that. [13:58]
thestringpuller vmware all hands on employee meeting starts [13:58]
thestringpuller stock plummets [13:58]
ascii_field that long-awaited dream of hyoomankind, the arse-mouth-system, is not far. [13:58]
ascii_field plug in the hose, 'eat' all you like. [13:59]
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thestringpuller human centipede? [13:59]
ascii_field human perpetuum mobile. [14:00]
lobbes or poop back into bag, re-sell as 'locally sourced' [14:00]
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thestringpuller "hey guise don't sell your stock" - to the employees, while all big investors sell out [14:01]
mircea_popescu big investors are not necessarily useful signal. [14:04]
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thestringpuller mos def. but i find it scandalous if you use employees as bagholders... [14:09]
mircea_popescu certainly. [14:09]
mircea_popescu that's the problem with finance, and stock warrants and such. they gotta make up their own minds. which means think. [14:10]
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thestringpuller yea, the employee stock plan, (giving us bonuses in stock, and offering pre-tax paycheck stock purchases), is essentially a stock warrant. i'm not invested in it, cause most of these companies tend to use employees as bagholders. [14:11]
mircea_popescu well properly speaking, most of these companies are not companies with employees, they're more like work clubs or some sort of co-op. [14:13]
mircea_popescu you're only a bagholder inasmuch as the shit you made wasn't worth anything anyway. [14:13]
mircea_popescu (which is almost always the case, which is why SV loves to "pay" in equity) [14:14]
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mircea_popescu deedbot- [14:17]
assbot XOtika.TV Statement - 08/06/2015 to 06/10/2015 ... ( ) [14:17]
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mircea_popescu << i lolled. Naphex that dude seriously didn't manage to repo his own servers ? [14:38]
assbot - The first Bitcoin exchange in Romania ... ( ) [14:38]
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ascii_field phun phakt: systemd HARD FREEZES a box with no chance of recovery if it runs into just about ANY issue at boot time. [15:24]
ascii_field unrelated (or not!) - [15:30]
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BingoBoingo Related [15:34]
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fluffypony [16:01]
assbot Call me maybe: MongoDB stale reads ... ( ) [16:01]
fluffypony guize let's use Mongo for financial applications [16:01]
fluffypony it's totally safe [16:01]
mircea_popescu lol [16:02]
mircea_popescu ascii_field this behaviour is an improvement over windows' reboot cycle. [16:05]
mircea_popescu also without any chance of recovery. [16:05]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: it is actually an exact copy of 'bsod' [16:06]
mircea_popescu aha. [16:06]
mircea_popescu hey, it will drive linux adoption [to all the schmucks who will not run linux unless it's really windows] [16:06]
ascii_field the lulzy part is that i lost (for all intents & purposes) a whole physical box to this [16:07]
ascii_field (if there were a recovery prompt, as in normal sys5-style init, it would be fixable. as it is, whole thing - os lives on nand flash for which i haven't the emergency reflash clips - is a writeoff) [16:08]
jurov it does not have singleuser mode? [16:09]
jurov wow [16:09]
ascii_field not triggerable [16:09]
mircea_popescu why tghe fuck were you running it ?! [16:09]
ascii_field weird chip (similar to pogo) for which the only available os was a systemdized linuxlike [16:09]
ascii_field experimented with civilizing it. [16:10]
mircea_popescu well... you knew going in this is what will happen/ [16:10]
ascii_field aha/ [16:10]
jurov actually, you're supposed to pack everything you will need into initrd and use that [16:10]
jurov it ends up being half of /usr? whatever. [16:10]
mircea_popescu bwahahaha [16:11]
mircea_popescu bet you it doesn't fit ? [16:11]
ascii_field funnily, thing still has a - nominally - functioning uboot. but mysteriously fails to load anything from any media whatsoever. [16:11]
mircea_popescu in other news, /me has a 5k sqft sunroof now. [16:12]
mircea_popescu ironically, /me also does not like tanned women. [16:13]
ascii_field how do you tan through glass ? [16:13]
mircea_popescu this is why you can't have nice things. i end up with them and i don't even like them. [16:13]
mircea_popescu no i mean, sunroof as in, a floor without a roof on top of the building. [16:13]
ascii_field ah [16:13]
jurov heh, no ivana trump for mp [16:13]
mircea_popescu certainly no 30yo washboards tyvm [16:14]
mircea_popescu you meant ivanka right ? [16:14]
mircea_popescu not her left-over-from-war czech mother or w/e [16:14]
ascii_field mircea_popescu is gonna love the retractable roof in ulan batur.. [16:15]
jurov i remembered one tanned-to-dark-chocolate pic of her [16:15]
jurov [16:16]
jurov and darker [16:16]
mircea_popescu not my cuppa. [16:16]
jurov wtf page does not exist [16:16]
jurov [16:17]
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jurov "taut" [16:17]
mircea_popescu mmk. [16:20]
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jurov anyway, at least you can start gardening there [16:29]
jurov make ersatz pampa from it :DDDD [16:29]
mircea_popescu while im pretty sure the roof will support a dozen lithe chicks seeing how i can lift them in pairs, [16:30]
mircea_popescu 500 tons worht of earth seems a tall order. [16:31]
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mircea_popescu (gotta remember - it doesn't snow here. consequently, their ideas of tolerance is not 3.5 to 5x) [16:31]
punkman fluffypony: it's totally safe << seems like everything he tests is "totally safe", was reading his mysql/mariadb results earlier [16:34]
fluffypony yup [16:34]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: park chopper (or moor the dirigible) there. [16:35]
mircea_popescu fun fact : the private aviation airport is in a place caled moron. [16:36]
mircea_popescu they even have a moron factory there. [16:36]
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punkman does it have moron school? [16:37]
mircea_popescu i expect also. [16:37]
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mod6 Does someone in here run the Bitcoin Error Log twitter acct? [16:46]
mircea_popescu i thought it was thickasthieves [16:46]
mod6 ahh [16:46]
mircea_popescu "If I was a woman of, say, 30, overwhelmed by hidden ambivalence, making next to nothing while spending next to everything, simultaneously unfulfilled by my excellent material possessions while protected from facing my actual social position; if I had to choose a direction in life but realizing that my choice probably didn't matter because the outcome had already been decided by the audience, yeah, I'd be on Abilify, t [16:49]
mircea_popescu oo." [16:49]
mircea_popescu awww. [16:49]
mircea_popescu somehow it doesn't occur to him he really is watching too much fucking tv. [16:49]
mircea_popescu i have to google ALL his dumbass popculture references, and that is ALL i ever have to chase. somehow the medicine he knows, i know. fucking "gosselin" ? i actually have to look at a phrase going "Katie Irene "Kate" Gosselin (born Kreider; born March 28, 1975) is an American television personality. She achieved national and international recognition on the US reality TV show Jon & Kate Plus 8, in which she and Jon Goss [16:50]
mircea_popescu elin are profiled as they raise their atypical family of sextuplets and twins." when it really should read "that boring dumbass trying to make money out of televising her sextuplets" ? [16:50]
ascii_field aaaaand now mircea_popescu knows how it is like to have to look up his refs to 'seinfeld' etc. [16:51]
mircea_popescu hm [16:52]
mircea_popescu i guess you could readily say, seinfeld, baywatch, "dwfs" or whatever - i didn't look that one up, bite me - are the same thing. [16:53]
thestringpuller !b2 [16:53]
thestringpuller ugh [16:53]
thestringpuller is it possible to watch too much TV in America? That's all there really is to do around here. [16:54]
mircea_popescu is it possible to load too much sand into your codpiece in sahara ? that's really all there is to load in your codpiece around there. [16:54]
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mircea_popescu i don't either. but i did study that show, like meade studied gorilla cock or whatever the fuck she studied. [16:55]
thestringpuller someone must really like seinfeld :P [16:56]
thestringpuller any love for curb your enthusiasm? [16:56]
mircea_popescu no, sadly. i liked it originally. by the time i was done i squarely didn't like it anymore. [16:57]
mircea_popescu i watched five minutes of that thing, mostly to evaluate the douche's (larry) contriobution to seinfeld. i fell upon this scene where a pubescent girl rings his doorbell and then gets her first period. and he behaves like a lunatic. [16:57]
mircea_popescu it was clear to me that the amount of money he made off seinfeld (~zilch) is actually a very correct evaluation of his actual contribution to the show. [16:58]
mircea_popescu which in and of itself is an unexpected result - when you think soaps you don't think "judicious remuneration of contributors" first and foremost. [16:58]
mircea_popescu but it is shockingly the foremost property of the whole shebang. [16:58]
mircea_popescu "As much as Sandra Bullock drives me insane I have never set fire to a trash can or impregnated a teenager because she made what is obviously way too much money for agreeing to be in the worst movies ever scripted by spider monkeys." [17:03]
mircea_popescu HA! [17:03]
mircea_popescu i fucking agree, that dumbass-that-s-not-to-be-named! [17:04]
thestringpuller wow. that's a great review of Curb your Enthusiasm... [17:04]
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mircea_popescu how many shows did they do anwyay? 100 hours ? 20 ? 200 ? [17:04]
thestringpuller 80 episode 30 min each [17:04]
thestringpuller so 40 hours? [17:04]
thestringpuller + 1 hour special [17:05]
mircea_popescu shoulda quit earlier. guy's a hack. [17:05]
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mircea_popescu << and yet he fundamentally understands why socialism doesn't work, even if you purport to call it "humanism", and why the poor are fucked, and everything else. weird. [17:13]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Relative Income Inequality ... ( ) [17:13]
thestringpuller "It's not material self-interest, it's that we're so sensitive. We experience ourselves through each other's eyes--and that's the reason for the labels and the clothes and the cars" << not sure how I feel about that reference quote [17:16]
mircea_popescu how the fuck does Richard Wilkinson manage to look at the data showing that us blacks making $1k a month just for the asking nevertheless sit around poles like monkeys glaring at people ; whereas those same blacks living in brazil, making a quarter as much or less for 200+ hour work months go out and fix the swing in the park that they build for free in their spare time and decide there's something wrong "with society" [17:16]
mircea_popescu ? [17:16]
mircea_popescu some people are fucked in the head, that's all. this isn't socieity. [17:16]
mircea_popescu "oh, income equality". brazil has A LOT more of it than the us. in the us everyone is poor. i mean this, literally, there are NO RICH PEOPLE in the us. nobody is rich there. everyone is poor like a fucking dog, like the soviets were poor in 1980. [17:17]
mircea_popescu brazil has actual rich people. but it also has poor people who do not fucking expect to be on tv. [17:18]
mircea_popescu self-esteem education has resulted in a country that will be sold on the open market by the pound. [17:18]
ascii_field optimist. [17:18]
ascii_field it'll be sold by the cubic metre. of ullage. [17:18]
ascii_field for radwaste storage. [17:18]
mircea_popescu nobody is storing it. [17:19]
mircea_popescu "oh, google is a valuablke company because it has all the world's data". a) you are not the world ; b) nobody fucking wants your data, i'd rather keep footage of afids engaging in gang rape. [17:19]
mircea_popescu oh. ullage. heh. [17:20]
mircea_popescu i dunno man. the land itself is pretty. [17:20]
mircea_popescu unfortunately inhabited, but in the modern era that can be fixed. [17:20]
mircea_popescu "Wilkinson is not just another academic social policy theorist who references Marx; he is also the editor of the 2003 version of the WHO report on social justice. " ummm... aaaand who cares ? [17:22]
mircea_popescu five people read that thing, at most, and nobody asked them anything. he might as well have been the author of any other rejected nbc pilot. [17:23]
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mircea_popescu "The problem isn't the government, the problem is you. It is always you. " [17:27]
mircea_popescu right ? guy gets parts. [17:27]
mircea_popescu "You can't imagine how you, one guy, can be the problem-- the government is much bigger than you, isn't it? But there are millions of people exactly like you. One byproduct of modern narcissism's reliance on finite media is that countless other people are modeling their lives on the same template you are. You think you are unique in your thoughts and identity, turns out you are a clone. You think you're the only g [17:27]
mircea_popescu uy for whom X was transformative? The only guy with an iphone?" [17:27]
ben_vulpes i'd love to know what americans find transformative. [17:30]
trinque oprah, some. [17:31]
ascii_field dafuq does this even mean [17:31]
mircea_popescu american history x. american beauty. the matrix. [17:31]
mircea_popescu need i continue ? v for vendetta [17:31]
mircea_popescu that one song from that one band with the chick with the hair [17:31]
trinque Zeitgeist [17:31]
mircea_popescu obama wining the elections [17:31]
mircea_popescu arabs winning the only engagement on us soil since the brits left [17:31]
mircea_popescu ascii_field "figuring stuff out". [17:32]
mircea_popescu there's a great scene in donnie brasco where newell depicts the death of john wayne as transformative for those schmucks. [17:33]
thestringpuller it's sad that obama would probably win a 3rd term [17:35]
trinque how would that happen? [17:35]
trinque oh would, my mistake [17:35]
mircea_popescu i don't see the difference. obama 3rd term is probably a better outcome than trump vs hilary or w/e., [17:36]
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BingoBoingo arabs winning the only engagement on us soil since the brits left << There was that other one the Japs won. [17:48]
mircea_popescu not really us soil, out in the pacific. [17:48]
BingoBoingo Well, I guess Hawaii wasn't quite US soil until after the war and even then moar volcanic ash than soil [17:50]
mircea_popescu << bwahahaha. so : [17:51]
mircea_popescu "My observation having done this several dozen times: If I use a (fake) male email address, e.g. "petermiller@" no one ever responds. If I use a (fake) female email address, e.g. "melissamiller@" I get answers almost every single time." [17:51]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: A not very happy observation about +/- being a woman ... ( ) [17:51]
mircea_popescu "I'll add that the majority of the people I email are male; the few women I've emailed haven't been any different. I've confirmed this by waiting a long time (month) and re-emailing a different (but still simple) version as a woman. [17:51]
mircea_popescu The conclusion I went to first was that there is some unconscious sexual element; not that the academics thought they were going to seduce me, of course, but that they derived some greater pleasure in answering the women than the men. [17:51]
mircea_popescu But perhaps there's a different explanation: there may be an assumption that if a guy asks such a basic/stupid question, then he's an idiot and not worth bothering with; but if a girl asks it, well, a college girl isn't held to the same standard/ expected to know as much." [17:51]
mircea_popescu how about the alternative explanation being "society as a whole thinks young males should die horribly in droves and fuck you already." [17:52]
mircea_popescu were THAT true, it would ironically make a move away from pervasive, entrenched gender inequality in favour of the males a deeply populist move. [17:54]
mircea_popescu by definition : that which favours the proclivities of many with no consideration given to effects. [17:54]
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assbot Finextra: Finextra news: Sweden on course to be first cashless country ... ( ) [18:34]
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mircea_popescu by which what they mean, of course, is "swedish government on course to be the first cashless government". [18:36]
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shinohai ;;rated Garmin [18:37]
gribble You have not yet rated user Garmin [18:37]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Looking Behind BanxShares - [18:54]
mircea_popescu "(1) Hershey's, et al, petitioned the FDA and EU to allow them to change the definition of "milk chocolate" to allow for the substitution of vegetable oil for cocoa butter. The FDA said no, but the EU thought it would be awesome idea. [18:55]
mircea_popescu To emphasize: not simply change the ingredients, but to change the definition of the word." [18:55]
mircea_popescu heh. [18:55]
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mircea_popescu then one wonders why you can't buy milk chocolate in the us. [18:55]
mircea_popescu in other news, Sumner Redstone still fucking exists. and nominally is in charge of things. (Chairman of National Amusements Executive Chairman of the Board of Viacom and CBS Corporation). [18:56]
mircea_popescu wanna bet some random conclave of derpy 40yo pencildick assistants do all the "being" sumner redstone ? [18:56]
BingoBoingo In other news congrats to HeySteve for his first Qntra publication [18:57]
mircea_popescu << hint : it was not that she dated niggers. [18:57]
assbot Why Sumner Redstone Really Kicked Sydney Holland Out | Vanity Fair ... ( ) [18:57]
mircea_popescu i can't from that piece discern what is supposed to be the revenue model of the banx thing. [18:59]
mircea_popescu how does it make money again ? [18:59]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo ok this is by very far the worst thing i have ever see qntra publish. [19:01]
mircea_popescu it does not belong there. [19:01]
ascii_field ^ [19:01]
mircea_popescu "And yes, it'll be a damn shame if this backfires on BitShares. Their technology is extremely scalable, blazingly fast and impressively flexible on the backend." [19:01]
mircea_popescu what do these empty words mean ? [19:01]
mircea_popescu if i wanted to have more gawker fluffl i'd have bought fucking gawker. [19:02]
mircea_popescu "BANX represents a thus far dividend-paying investment in BanxCapital," << dividends out of what ? [19:02]
BingoBoingo Sorry I fucked up. [19:02]
mircea_popescu this is not news, and it's not even bad. it is terrible. [19:02]
mircea_popescu "My take on the ICO is that Lyford recognised multiple opportunities in Bitcoi" whose own take ? what the bloody hell|! [19:03]
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assbot Michael Dunn Sentenced to Life Without Parole for Loud Music Killing - NBC News ... ( ) [19:12]
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ascii_field evidently he oughta have killed the lot [19:13]
ascii_field 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb' (tm) [19:13]
mircea_popescu Michael Dunn, 47, was convicted of killing Jordan Davis, 17, in November 2012 after he shot into a SUV of four teenagers 10 times when an argument broke out over loud music coming from the teens' vehicle. Dunn was sentenced to an additional 90 years in prison for three attempted murder convictions and another 15 years for firing into an occupied vehicle. “Our justice system works. This case demonstrates that our just [19:13]
mircea_popescu ice system does work,” said Judge Russell Healey at the sentencing. [19:13]
mircea_popescu but in related news, [19:13]
assbot Cheese really is crack. Study reveals cheese is as addictive as drugs - LA Times ... ( ) [19:13]
mircea_popescu "Study reveals cheese is as addictive as drugs" [19:14]
mircea_popescu im sure it is. this is actually a correct result. in other news, you wanna know how adictive "drugs" are ? CHEESE! [19:14]
ascii_field wait till we learn how addictive air is [19:14]
shinohai Fuck BitShares. [19:19]
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mircea_popescu "Because the only truth you know is what you get over this tube. Right now, there is a whole, entire generation that never knew anything that didn't come out of this tube. This tube is the gospel, the ultimate revelation. This tube can make or break presidents, popes, prime ministers. This tube is the most awesome goddamn force in the whole godless world. And woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong peopl [19:26]
mircea_popescu e." << and ballas' tv fixation is explained. [19:26]
mircea_popescu he reasons "people matter", and since "people are ignorant louts" ERGO "tv matters". [19:27]
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mod6 shinohai: haha, i've done that at least half-a-dozen times. [20:52]
shinohai ^_________^ [20:53]
mircea_popescu << this should be right alf's alley. [20:54]
assbot - Inmates vs. outsourcing ... ( ) [20:54]
mircea_popescu also, as much as i loathe pdfs, [20:55]
assbot Page not found | US Court of Federal Claims ... ( ) [20:55]
mircea_popescu inmates can't own copyrights of their own ideas while imprisoned because "they are in service of the state". [20:56]
mircea_popescu this obviously gives way to a very interesting twist : if you ever were in prison, it is the gov't's option to CLAIM that if you build a business, you didn't build a business - because you had come up with it during your stay and well, hid it from them. which should bring a fine, right ? on top of restitution, correct ? [20:56]
shinohai Interesting thought mircea_popescu [20:57]
BingoBoingo So if you sell drugs in prison, the government sold drugs in prison [20:57]
shinohai IRS expects you to pay taxes on illicit earnings whether you are legit or not [20:58]
mircea_popescu nono. immunity from detrimental, advantageous only. [20:59]
mircea_popescu if you invented the cure for cancer, the government invented the cure for cancer. if you got cancer ... well you shouldn't have been smoking now should you have! [20:59]
mircea_popescu "but i couldn't smoke anyway!" "exactly." [20:59]
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mircea_popescu iirc it only listens to trinque [21:09]
trinque deedbot-: feeds add [21:10]
deedbot- added. [21:10]
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BingoBoingo Ah, ty. Something new should be shitting out of there in the next couple hours. [21:13]
trinque yw [21:13]
jurov haha qntra got censored? [21:18]
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BingoBoingo jurov: Honestly actually reading it instead of turning it from .docx to something Qntra could eat, it was pretty shit. It's length was also incredibly dilutional relative to whatever value a small portion of the content may have had. [21:31]
BingoBoingo It was my mistake. A draft Qntra style guide is incoming soon to prevent this. [21:32]
BingoBoingo The formatting guidelines will be effective as soon as the link hits this channel, because I'm tired of buring more braincycles civilizing submission that deturding legal pdfs. [21:33]
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asciilifeform << dead link [21:34]
assbot Logged on 22-10-2015 23:54:38; mircea_popescu: also, as much as i loathe pdfs, [21:34]
asciilifeform possibly mirror: [21:35]
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asciilifeform (appears to match the description given by mircea_popescu) [21:35]
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asciilifeform 'In a thirty-four-page opinion, the Court of Federal Claims dismissed Walton’s complaint for lack of jurisdiction. The court held that the suit could not be maintained because the statutory provisions governing copyright infringement suits against the United States (28 U.S.C. § 1498(b), discussed in Part II infra), do not permit such suits by prisoners in Walton’s situation. The court further held that because Congress ha [21:36]
asciilifeform d not waived the government’s sovereign immunity from such suits, it lacked jurisdiction to entertain Walton’s complaint, which it therefore dismissed.' [21:36]
* adlai offers two test-cases for this "style guide" (lol) [21:37]
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adlai an article explaining how much profit you can make from running dashparkcoin 'masternodes', and how your investment yields value from providing services to people using it to blablabla [21:38]
adlai vs, an article tracking the rise and fall of masternode-fidelty-bond-sized chunks of darkcoin, correlated with its price movements, maybe even making falsifiable claims about the future. [21:38]
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adlai works for bitshares, banxwanx, diethyl ethereum, etc [21:39]
adlai and for some lols: [21:40]
adlai !s banx platinum [21:40]
assbot 0 results for 'banx platinum' : [21:40]
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BingoBoingo adlai: That's actually what inspired it. Shitcoin is shit submission that just sucked at fitting qntra. [21:41]
* adlai sadly missed the offending shillery, but wonders how much koolaid HeySteve drank, and whether a wot that has no negrates can ever be truly complete [21:41]
asciilifeform adlai: you know where the button is. rate away... [21:41]
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asciilifeform i must admit, i was tempted [21:42]
asciilifeform but now that i'm home, can't be arsed. [21:42]
BingoBoingo adlai: The part where there were positive things about a shitcoin were near the bottom of the problems there. [21:43]
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adlai BingoBoingo: how about, "the article should contribute facts/analyses that the reader would have been unlikely to un/discover on their own in the same time it took the author to write" [21:49]
BingoBoingo adlai: It will be open to comments. I'm reactivating thedrinkingrecord for meta talk about Qntra. [21:50]
BingoBoingo adlai: But seriously HeySteve made an honest try. The blame for the incident lies with me for it making it past my personal filters. [21:51]
adlai i'm way too curious now about the original text. if the problems were primarily stylistic, qntra'd have been better off with an edited version, but that demands more from the [rapidly dwindling number of] editors [21:52]
BingoBoingo The fault is not with HeySteve for submitting a piece. It is with me for accepting it in its condition. [21:52]
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BingoBoingo adlai: The gist was Mark Lyford, who put the banx coin through one dilutional hardfork already, and he's looking to move his coin to a different altcoin's chain in yet another hardfork. [21:54]
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assbot Successfully unrated HeySteve [21:59]
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BingoBoingo It really was my bad. Last time he wrote anything news was for CCN before the got fucked until their spirit left their body by GAW. He also did in the past find tits for mircea_popescu's offer. This really was on me. [22:11]
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BingoBoingo !up hazirafel [23:00]
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deedbot- [Bingo Blog] Qntra Style and Draft Content Guide - [23:08]
BingoBoingo ^ mircea_popescu et al. Please rip into this [23:08]
BingoBoingo ^ You too pete_dushenski and thestringpuller, also Jurov [23:08]
BingoBoingo ^And hanbot and kakobrekla, asciilifeform you too. Seriously everyone rip into that. [23:09]
adlai "...consider a different one or learn /how/ to make it do this." [23:12]
BingoBoingo [23:12]
adlai where where [23:12]
BingoBoingo ty adlai [23:12]
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BingoBoingo adlai: Since you are here, can you think of any necessary additions to the markup allowed that may be necessary. Also suggestions on the content guidelines is necessary. [23:21]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell pete_dushenski did I leave any necessary formatting markup out? [23:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:25]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: looks pretty good [23:31]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: in your place, i'd ask for submissions in 'markdown' format, instead of html, but this is a matter of aesthetics and perlscript solely. [23:32]
asciilifeform (markdown is considerably more human-readable in the editor) [23:32]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: thank you, HTML markup in on plaintext is because my human is more capable of reading that than reddit fail language. Also easier to proof for how machines read, which unfortunately most qntra readers use. [23:33]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Seriously, take the endoscope and find a new orfice in that. [23:33]
adlai BingoBoingo: "Level 1 of assbot's Web of Trust", "replaced in a published piece". not sure why preformatted snippets need special treatment, what's wrong with
BingoBoingo adlai: Molestation in transit. If the whole thing is GPG encrypted fine, but I feel much safer if code and signed material are encrypted seperately to survive transit. [23:36]
asciilifeform since we're on the subject, nothing prevents an enemy from intercepting the message and re-encrypting own substitute to your key [23:37]
asciilifeform (nothing, that is, other than signature by author. which is not part of the guide) [23:37]
adlai can't hurt to just require all submissions to be `gpg --armor --sign --encrypt`ed [23:39]
BingoBoingo Signature is nice, but if Hitler writes better than submitter I don't yet have objections to hitler giving submitter shares. But that is an issue [23:39]
adlai misplaced attribution can be harmful both ways [23:40]
BingoBoingo More urgent to me now is no more submissions autogenerated by MS WTF. [23:40]
adlai or, as eloquently put by theresa heinz kerry... "you said that i said something that i didn't say, so you can shove it" [23:40]
BingoBoingo If preet wants to write on how much he sucks and give the shares to kakobrekla I dun know that I or kakobrekla ought to object on the first pass [23:41]
BingoBoingo But talk on signatures is something I should incorporate in the next draft [23:42]
BingoBoingo Fuck it, signatures are going in the next draft to make the key to point shares at easier too. [23:44]
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BingoBoingo These concerns are why I need a new asshole, carve it. [23:48]
BingoBoingo [23:52]
assbot FPS Thread - Album on Imgur ... ( ) [23:52]
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