Forum logs for 22 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [02:29]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [02:29]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 15:58:37 2012 [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00042953 = 6.8725 BTC [+] [02:31]
Diablo-D3 http://imgur.com/gallery/rhPlU [02:33]
Diablo-D3 dare someone to post that as a reply to goat on the forums [02:33]
mircea_popescu lol [02:34]
thestringpuller hat drama is going on? [02:39]
thestringpuller what* [02:39]
thestringpuller I'll post it [02:39]
thestringpuller for .5 btc [02:40]
mircea_popescu lol how's that worth 6 dollars ? [02:41]
thestringpuller I'm just hustlin' man gotta get dat papuh [02:42]
thestringpuller you gettin' your papuh right? [02:42]
Diablo-D3 http://imgur.com/gallery/QnMOm [02:43]
Diablo-D3 the wrath of god [02:43]
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thestringpuller what is goat saying on the forums [02:48]
Diablo-D3 thestringpuller: who knows [02:51]
Diablo-D3 just find a thread and be like BAM [02:51]
mircea_popescu "once the news about what we are talking about gets out, MPEX will be under huge pressure, if they want or not" [02:51]
mircea_popescu how's that pressure coming along btw ? [02:52]
mircea_popescu takes moar than two weeks ? [02:52]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: china is jerking as fast as they can [02:52]
mircea_popescu lol [02:52]
mircea_popescu http://buckworthsolicitors.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Michael-Buckworth-271-x-302.jpg <<< does this look like an internet lawyer or what! [02:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18777 @ 0.00042873 = 8.0503 BTC [-] [02:56]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: internet lawyer is another word for douchebag, yeah? [02:57]
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mircea_popescu yeah [02:58]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: why do all british lawyers have funny teeth... [03:14]
thestringpuller like steve buscemi [03:14]
mircea_popescu i dunno, custard pie ? [03:14]
thestringpuller so what's new mircea? [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00042953 = 10.094 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4319 @ 0.00042961 = 1.8555 BTC [+] [03:21]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller not much really. [03:22]
thestringpuller what time is it over there? [03:23]
thestringpuller 4AM or something? [03:23]
mircea_popescu 3 [03:24]
thestringpuller do you know of any C based web frameworks? [03:32]
mircea_popescu you mean cgi ? [03:32]
mircea_popescu .g common gateway interface [03:32]
mircea_popescu omg still no markac! [03:33]
thestringpuller hmm [03:33]
thestringpuller i guess that would work [03:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15776 @ 0.00042873 = 6.7636 BTC [-] [03:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6147 @ 0.00042873 = 2.6354 BTC [-] [04:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4996 @ 0.00042801 = 2.1383 BTC [-] [04:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7952 @ 0.00042792 = 3.4028 BTC [-] [04:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7081 @ 0.00042961 = 3.0421 BTC [+] [04:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34619 @ 0.0004306 = 14.9069 BTC [+] [04:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1981 @ 0.0004306 = 0.853 BTC [+] [05:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21340 @ 0.00043102 = 9.198 BTC [+] [05:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2174 @ 0.00043103 = 0.9371 BTC [+] [05:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4505 @ 0.00043194 = 1.9459 BTC [+] [05:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33295 @ 0.00043194 = 14.3814 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39456 @ 0.00043254 = 17.0663 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52202 @ 0.00043312 = 22.6097 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24098 @ 0.00043324 = 10.4402 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00043347 = 13.1341 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00043349 = 8.7998 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00043438 = 12.4667 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00043463 = 4.7375 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00043475 = 12.0426 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00043511 = 6.3526 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1265 @ 0.00043551 = 0.5509 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00043591 = 4.1847 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48105 @ 0.00043599 = 20.9733 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48428 @ 0.00043602 = 21.1156 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55200 @ 0.00043607 = 24.0711 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22029 @ 0.00043623 = 9.6097 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00043626 = 18.4538 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00043645 = 1.8767 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32797 @ 0.00043646 = 14.3146 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14469 @ 0.00043652 = 6.316 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36035 @ 0.00043675 = 15.7383 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00043688 = 11.0531 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3686 @ 0.00043699 = 1.6107 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4541 @ 0.00043756 = 1.987 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00043766 = 21.4453 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33400 @ 0.00043772 = 14.6198 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56900 @ 0.00043772 = 24.9063 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.00043805 = 20.8074 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.0004381 = 9.1563 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37675 @ 0.00043888 = 16.5348 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44711 @ 0.00043908 = 19.6317 BTC [+] [05:07]
Diablo-D3 wat [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42700 @ 0.00043928 = 18.7573 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.0004397 = 20.3141 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47600 @ 0.00043979 = 20.934 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96386 @ 0.00044 = 42.4098 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00044014 = 0.4401 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24400 @ 0.00044033 = 10.7441 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22022 @ 0.00044061 = 9.7031 BTC [+] [05:07]
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thestringpuller mpoe blew up [05:26]
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gigavps thestringpuller what happened to mpoe? [05:29]
kakobrekla !ticker s.mpoe [05:31]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00042792 / 0.00043299 / 0.00044061 (2641504 shares, 1,143.76 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00036942 / 0.00046059 (90162666 shares, 33,308.55 BTC) [05:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 29629 @ 0.003375 = 99.9979 BTC [-] [05:34]
mircea_popescu o hey, new max [05:37]
mircea_popescu in other news, "Good news. We have figured out a solution for this problem. Bitmit is not going to be sold. Business as usual. We are sorry for the insecurity this may have caused." [05:37]
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mircea_popescu http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/10/121019141254.htm i wonder how concerned we should be [05:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23800 @ 0.00043317 = 10.3094 BTC [-] [05:59]
thestringpuller not scared at all [06:02]
thestringpuller ? [06:02]
thestringpuller quantum computing is very expensive field mircea_popescu [06:02]
mircea_popescu :p [06:03]
thestringpuller it's like antimatter [06:03]
thestringpuller "In 2006, Gerald Smith estimated $250 million could produce 10 milligrams of positrons[38] (equivalent to $25 billion per gram)" [06:04]
thestringpuller Bitmit didn't get sold? [06:05]
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noagendamarket think they pulled the sale [06:05]
mircea_popescu no, apparently the bids on that were just as fake as all therest [06:05]
mircea_popescu and so they ended up selling to themselves so business as ... normal./ [06:06]
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thestringpuller are there any financial figures floating around? or is it privately held? [06:06]
thestringpuller (curious as to their revenue) [06:06]
mircea_popescu fake top bid was 5k or so [06:07]
mircea_popescu so you could infer < 50 btc/mo [06:07]
thestringpuller micro business lol [06:07]
thestringpuller that's less than US minimum wage [06:07]
mircea_popescu glbse was making for the "sharegholders" less than what the crown was paying taaki as welfare. [06:08]
noagendamarket people dont buy shit with bitcoins [06:08]
mircea_popescu yes, it makes no sense to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all the trouble you went to buy bitcoin in the first place. [06:08]
noagendamarket nefario took most of the glbse funds thats why the shareholders didnt get much :P [06:09]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: Amir Taaki? The Intersango guy? [06:09]
noagendamarket it turns out hes really greedy :D [06:09]
mircea_popescu noagendamarket even if we were to take the 500 a month figure seriously, it still doesn't pay the rent. [06:09]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller yes, bitcoinconscammercy. [06:10]
noagendamarket it was more like 500 a week [06:10]
mircea_popescu you can lay off now, nobody's going to pay you money for your shares anyway. [06:11]
noagendamarket I wrote them off months ago :P [06:11]
mircea_popescu no, you were actively trying to sucker someone into buying them a few weeks back. [06:11]
noagendamarket no. Mine werent for sale [06:12]
mircea_popescu and in general, stop trying to act like you're either legitimate or respectable. neither's the case. [06:13]
noagendamarket Theymos asked me about it but I hadnt said yes or no when nefario shut the site down [06:13]
noagendamarket fuck off wanker [06:13]
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thestringpuller heh [06:13]
mircea_popescu myeah. [06:13]
thestringpuller sounds like tool [06:13]
thestringpuller As my boss says, "Behind every successful person lies a pack of haters" [06:14]
mircea_popescu inevitably. [06:14]
thestringpuller you're right though: "it makes no sense to buy rl world items with bitcoin. after all the trouble you went to buy bitcoin in the first place." [06:15]
mircea_popescu yeah. it's just an intellectually lazy way to think "oh, im a btc entrepreneur" [06:16]
thestringpuller entrepreneur's success is generally measured by the jobs they create [06:17]
thestringpuller so more like "I'm a btc 'investor'" [06:17]
thestringpuller http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~eroberts/cs181/projects/2010-11/DigitalCurrencies/2011/06/03/bitcoins-and-the-potential-to-uplift-millions/index.html - that's what brought me back to the btc world [06:18]
thestringpuller "BitCoins might not provide us as much financial security in the short-term, but it would definitely empower us overall." [06:19]
thestringpuller Don't you feel empowered by operating MPEX mircea_popescu? [06:20]
Diablo-D3 no, he gets that from beating women [06:21]
thestringpuller LOL [06:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00043394 = 6.8563 BTC [+] [06:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12160 @ 0.00043317 = 5.2673 BTC [-] [06:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 115000 @ 0.003375 = 388.125 BTC [-] [07:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4540 @ 0.00043317 = 1.9666 BTC [-] [07:32]
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Chaaang-Noi how does one even get on welfare [07:51]
Chaaang-Noi seems like a lot of work [07:52]
noagendamarket its easy :P [07:52]
noagendamarket in Australia even the middle class get welfare of some sort [07:53]
noagendamarket feelsgoodman.jpg [07:53]
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Azelphur Chaaang-Noi: you can always take my approach, one of the perks of having Autism is that the welfare people never fuck with me [07:54]
Azelphur o/ [07:54]
Chaaang-Noi lol [07:55]
Chaaang-Noi so lets say im in the usa and i dont want or cant work [07:55]
Chaaang-Noi then what? [07:55]
noagendamarket youre fucked [07:55]
Azelphur go to local walmarts and ask if you can have a large cardboard box [07:55]
Chaaang-Noi lol so welfare is good in england and aus but not usa? [07:56]
Azelphur I think that's pretty much the jist of it [07:56]
Chaaang-Noi ahh [07:56]
noagendamarket there is no welfare in the usa :P [07:56]
Chaaang-Noi i see [07:56]
Chaaang-Noi okay good [07:56]
Chaaang-Noi maybe ill start paying taxes then... [07:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50060 @ 0.00043136 = 21.5939 BTC [-] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043394 = 1.0415 BTC [+] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33278 @ 0.00044061 = 14.6626 BTC [+] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47300 @ 0.00044072 = 20.8461 BTC [+] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00044098 = 23.7688 BTC [+] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00044131 = 0.662 BTC [+] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11562 @ 0.00044289 = 5.1207 BTC [+] [07:57]
noagendamarket you dont get very much if you dont work in Australia either though...subsistence living [07:57]
noagendamarket thats why so many women get pregnant to get the single parents pension [07:58]
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EskimoBob good day-night-morning-evening [09:26]
EskimoBob any interesting news? [09:26]
Chaang-Noi ;;tslb [09:27]
gribble Time since last block: 20 minutes and 52 seconds [09:27]
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Chaang-Noi same old same old... [09:27]
EskimoBob whats in the BTC TV? Any new soap operas or drama? [09:27]
Chaang-Noi minor pirate stuff, minoe bitcoincia stuff [09:28]
Chaang-Noi about it [09:29]
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Chaang-Noi ;;tslb [09:31]
gribble Time since last block: 24 minutes and 53 seconds [09:31]
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Chaang-Noi ;;tslb [09:38]
gribble Time since last block: 31 minutes and 59 seconds [09:38]
Chaang-Noi i heart ltc [09:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00043124 = 7.8054 BTC [+] [09:40]
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EskimoBob mircea_popescu: I was reading that "Breakthrough Offers New Route to Large-Scale Quantum Computing" . BTC or any crypto-blah is not fucked yet but it's getting closer. 7 more years maybe and some lab has it up and working... and then BTC will become a blip in e-pages of history [09:43]
Chaang-Noi ;;tslb [09:44]
gribble Time since last block: 38 minutes and 1 second [09:44]
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EskimoBob what are you waiting Chaang-Noi? [09:45]
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Chaang-Noi i wanted to see if a transaction was good [09:52]
Chaang-Noi i used the same wallet on two computers and everything got fucked up [09:53]
Chaang-Noi one comptuer does not see the coin [09:53]
Chaang-Noi one seems it did [09:53]
Chaang-Noi not sure what went wrong, used the wallet for oever 1 year and have over 5000 transactions and several hundred address [09:53]
Chaang-Noi but then lol they dont match [09:53]
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midnightmagic ls -la [09:56]
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mircea_popescu EskimoBob maybe. [10:11]
rg nice [10:12]
rg when i wake up ltc diff will be down [10:12]
mircea_popescu tho the same computers can be used to mine. [10:12]
mircea_popescu meh i just had the world's worst banana [10:12]
mircea_popescu wtf, we get quantum computers can't even grow a decent banana ;/ [10:12]
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EskimoBob mircea_popescu: you know that this yellow banana we like so much is going to die out [10:24]
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mircea_popescu EskimoBob so i hear. [11:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00043789 = 8.2104 BTC [+] [11:47]
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Chaang-Noi this is not me at all but seems some people have btc wallets [16:46]
Chaang-Noi http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/432138975 [16:46]
Chaang-Noi nsfw [16:46]
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Chaang-Noi its 4chan [16:46]
* Diablo-D3 sighs and clicks. [16:46]
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Chaang-Noi might be same fag too, hard to tell [16:47]
Diablo-D3 not enough tits [16:47]
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thestringpuller sup guys [16:48]
gigavps has anyone talked with nefario about a timeline for the shutdown of glbse? [16:48]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: oh thats easy [16:49]
Diablo-D3 8am: several beers [16:49]
Diablo-D3 9am: glbse taken down [16:49]
Diablo-D3 10am: spends user funds to get hookers and blow [16:49]
Diablo-D3 2pm: why the fuck am I in a ditch, and why does my side hurt, and whats with this bag of ice [16:49]
gigavps Diablo-D3 i meant to get the asset holders lists [16:49]
Diablo-D3 ahh [16:49]
chmod755 lol [16:49]
Diablo-D3 thats also easy [16:49]
gigavps and coins returned [16:49]
Diablo-D3 never. [16:49]
chmod755 i got 100% of my 0.00000000 BTC back [16:50]
thestringpuller lol [16:50]
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Diablo-D3 :< [16:50]
thestringpuller chmod777 [16:50]
Diablo-D3 I got 0% of my btc back [16:50]
thestringpuller Mpex it up [16:50]
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Chaang-Noi giga did you get your coins back? [16:52]
Chaang-Noi i kinda wonder if the "double payment fail" was just a stalling tactict. [16:52]
Chaang-Noi fail internets [16:54]
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jurov everybody get your popcorn: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119782.0 [17:47]
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* thestringpuller pops popcorn in office microwave [17:54]
Chaaang-Noi we leaked this days ago [17:56]
Chaaang-Noi he got that link from me [17:56]
thestringpuller who leaked it to mircea though? [17:57]
Chaaang-Noi i did [18:00]
pigeons i'm wondering who this Anon commenter is that thought i was shareholder4. seems random. hit me up if you're here [18:02]
pigeons hmm unless its one of the 2 people i have on ignore [18:02]
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thestringpuller lol am i on ignore? [18:16]
pigeons nope [18:18]
pigeons is that you're comment though? [18:19]
thestringpuller i tend to get along with a lot of people [18:19]
thestringpuller no [18:19]
thestringpuller i dont do forums/networks [18:19]
thestringpuller social* networks [18:19]
thestringpuller just irc [18:19]
thestringpuller the btc business community is falling apart [18:20]
pigeons i wish i got misattributed the "worst. ceo. evar." quote instead at least [18:21]
thestringpuller worst ceo ever is steve ballmer [18:22]
thestringpuller singlehandedly ruined microsoft [18:22]
thestringpuller pigeons: do you run any businesses? [18:22]
thestringpuller or own any? [18:23]
pigeons thestringpuller: just private tech consulting services, no btc [18:23]
pigeons more freelancer than a "business" [18:23]
thestringpuller last of the freelance hackers are we? i have respect for that [18:24]
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thestringpuller i used to be a freelance hacker. then i needed medical insurance [18:24]
pigeons yeah, i hear ya [18:24]
thestringpuller so youve been around awhile? [18:25]
pigeons more than some, less than others [18:25]
thestringpuller modest :) [18:26]
thestringpuller the glbse fiasco is driving a wedge between the community [18:26]
pigeons really? one one side of the wedge is everyone who got screwed. who is on the other side? [18:27]
thestringpuller well nefario showed his true colors. there are logs of him basically saying he would oppose law enforcement. the second the popo arrive due to rising publicity, he caves to political pressure. [18:30]
pigeons yeah i think its more of a betrayal than had it been someone who never had presented that they would fight for the cause [18:30]
gigavps so wtf has he been doing the last couple of weeks? [18:32]
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copumpkin jacking off [18:32]
PsychoticBoy nothing i suppose [18:32]
thestringpuller he's a coward ultimately. no loyalty. loyalty is what will make or break this community. there is a saying in the orient, "loyalty to the end" if you truly believe in your cause you will die for it [18:32]
copumpkin oh hey BurtW [18:32]
copumpkin dude [18:32]
copumpkin what's the point in getting sent to jail for glbse? [18:32]
copumpkin and then glbse will get taken down anyway [18:32]
copumpkin it's not the kind of thing you can make a stand on [18:32]
copumpkin I think he's a weasel and incompetent [18:32]
thestringpuller move glbse to another country [18:32]
copumpkin but it's stupid to expect him to stand up to law enforcement [18:33]
thestringpuller amd vacate [18:33]
copumpkin yeah, it's really easy to just pick up and move countries [18:33]
thestringpuller the world is a big place [18:33]
copumpkin cause you know, you walk up to a consulate and say "yo, I wanna move my illegal bitcoin exchange to your country, gimme a work visa" [18:33]
copumpkin and they'll be like "yeah totally!" [18:33]
thestringpuller i meant more send the data overseas [18:33]
thestringpuller let someone else run it [18:33]
thestringpuller then you disappear or due the time [18:34]
* gigavps thinks the data is already overseas [18:34]
gigavps or under the sea [18:34]
PsychoticBoy in a sunken ship ;) [18:34]
thestringpuller do the time* [18:34]
thestringpuller isnt that what hazard pay is for? [18:34]
BurtW Hey copumpkin [18:34]
gigavps burt dub is in the house [18:35]
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thestringpuller gigavps: in the event you don't get asset holder information what will you do? [18:39]
gigavps what can i do? [18:40]
gigavps if i start a claims process, how will i know who is not lying? [18:40]
gigavps if the claims go over 40k units issued, who doesn't get paid? [18:40]
gigavps does the contract change? [18:41]
thestringpuller there is a case nefario may decide to not release the db info [18:41]
thestringpuller i wouldnt put it past him at this poibt [18:41]
thestringpuller point* [18:41]
gigavps Gigamining's contract is dependent on their being a highest traded price over the last 15 days [18:41]
gigavps so it will most likely mean that the contract will no longer be perpetual [18:42]
Chaaang-Noi yeah, i have one too for 7 days [18:42]
Chaaang-Noi this whole things is a mess [18:43]
gigavps so if someone can come up with clear answers to these questions, i'm happy to continue Gigamining [18:44]
Chaaang-Noi giga, make sure you talk to your lawyer before you act as a broker [18:44]
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gigavps that is another reason the contract would need to change [18:44]
gigavps because I cannot act as a broker or exchange [18:44]
Chaaang-Noi you are an american, so im not kidding, talk to your lawyer [18:44]
Chaaang-Noi yeah you cant [18:45]
Chaaang-Noi you must have talked to a lawyer :) [18:45]
Chaaang-Noi or you is smart [18:45]
Chaaang-Noi either way it sucks [18:45]
gigavps so most of the profitability of Teramining, which was being able to be the first to have it and flip it, is gone [18:45]
thestringpuller heh mircea hates mining bonds so i doubt mpex is an option [18:46]
Chaaang-Noi it is a mess [18:46]
gigavps so now anyone holding Gigamining and wants to upgrade to Teramining has to ask, just how many coins am i going to put in and is it even worth it [18:46]
gigavps but they won't know until a new contract is made and agreed upon [18:46]
gigavps and there is no point in making a new contract if i can't reliably know who owns what [18:47]
thestringpuller glbse has you by the balls still :( [18:47]
gigavps glbse doesn't have me by the balls, they have all of their/my customers by the balss [18:48]
gigavps balls [18:48]
Chaaang-Noi glbse had made it so giga is forced to keep all profit, glbse has fucked everyone who trusted glbse [18:48]
gigavps that is the most unfortunate part of this whole thing [18:48]
thestringpuller trust is a powerful thing [18:48]
gigavps because it makes me look like a scammer in most outcomes [18:49]
Chaaang-Noi anyone who holds giga stock should sue glbse and their owners like theymos [18:49]
thestringpuller at least your customers no its not yohr fault [18:49]
Chaaang-Noi yeah that is why im so pissed at neferio and theymos... [18:49]
gigavps thestringpuller i can only hope at this point [18:49]
Chaaang-Noi i have had death threats over my assets [18:50]
Chaaang-Noi i hope giga has not had the same [18:50]
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gigavps no death threats yet [18:50]
Chaaang-Noi good [18:50]
pigeons wait, people don't like goat? [18:51]
Chaaang-Noi yeah [18:51]
Chaaang-Noi i am a giant cock [18:51]
thestringpuller the thing i dont get is why the platform didn't have an email list of the current asset holders for each particular issuer [18:51]
gigavps they do [18:52]
thestringpuller oh you just cant access it [18:52]
thestringpuller fuck them then [18:52]
thestringpuller someone should just hack the db [18:52]
Chaaang-Noi pigeons really some people hate me, some people love me, [18:53]
gigavps nobody hates Goat [18:54]
Chaaang-Noi lol yes they do [18:55]
Chaaang-Noi matthew hates me with a passion [18:55]
Chaaang-Noi some do :) [18:55]
gigavps and now matthew is banished from BTC [18:55]
Chaaang-Noi yeah [18:55]
gigavps see what happens when you hate goat [18:55]
Chaaang-Noi :) [18:55]
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Chaaang-Noi im off to bed all [18:57]
Chaaang-Noi night [18:57]
gigavps see ya [18:57]
Chaaang-Noi peace [18:57]
gigavps thestringpuller you have any good answers to my questions? [18:57]
gigavps i'm all ears [18:57]
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mircea_popescu pigeons> i wish i got misattributed the "worst. ceo. evar." quote instead at least << lol [20:01]
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mircea_popescu i see nobody has any faith in nefario's future business plans ?! [20:01]
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gigavps mircea_popescu i glad to see you are in a joking mood today [20:02]
gigavps i'm* [20:03]
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mircea_popescu and yes, gigavps is pretty royally screwed. [20:13]
mircea_popescu o, i was just reading the logs. [20:13]
gigavps thanks for clarifying that [20:15]
mircea_popescu but yes, what are you going to do with teraminign nao. [20:15]
thestringpuller you still around mircea_popescu ? [20:16]
mircea_popescu and re thestringpuller : i don't hate miner bonds. i just don't think they're a fit investment for the unsophisticated. [20:16]
mircea_popescu they're complicated to evaluate and easy to misconstrue. [20:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1094 @ 0.00043789 = 0.4791 BTC [-] [20:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14765 @ 0.00043728 = 6.4564 BTC [-] [20:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16030 @ 0.00043709 = 7.0066 BTC [-] [20:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6711 @ 0.00043707 = 2.9332 BTC [-] [20:19]
thestringpuller dis here [20:19]
thestringpuller have heard from smickles recently mircea_popescu ? [20:20]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [20:20]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 16 hours, 23 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: but it would be nice in a way, rent, phone, internet, car, insurance for this month, that'll be 200 btc by this date please :) [20:20]
mircea_popescu mmm something like that, a day or two. [20:20]
smickles yo [20:20]
mircea_popescu we never talked daily tho. if you have business [20:21]
mircea_popescu lol, was gonna say email him, but i guess saying the name works too [20:21]
smickles :) [20:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.003375 = 0.1519 BTC [-] [20:21]
mircea_popescu next somebody's gonna buy pi shares [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3 @ 0.0034 = 0.0102 BTC [+] [20:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+] [20:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4 @ 0.0034 = 0.0136 BTC [+] [20:24]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha [20:24]
mircea_popescu next somebody's gonna buy 3mn shares [20:24]
Doffx S.Dice make a recovery? [20:24]
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mircea_popescu heh, that don' work so good eh ? [20:25]
mircea_popescu Doffx sorta bobbing up an' down [20:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 14735 @ 0.0034 = 50.099 BTC [+] [20:25]
Doffx If I could sell mine id make 2 btc at .0034 [20:26]
Doffx Too bad they were on Glbse [20:26]
mircea_popescu why can't you sell the oh [20:26]
Doffx If only you had given me a free account. [20:26]
Doffx Its clearly your fault. [20:26]
Doffx :) [20:26]
mircea_popescu lol. clearly. [20:26]
mircea_popescu how much did you lose by getting a free account ? [20:27]
Doffx Id be like -10 [20:27]
mircea_popescu make 2 btc means you had like 300 btc's worth neh ? [20:27]
mircea_popescu no, 30 sorry. [20:27]
Doffx If I had bought an account id still be about 10 btc down. [20:27]
mircea_popescu so, if you spent 20 to get acct and remainder 10 to get s.dice you'd now have 1 acct worth 30 and 10 btc worth of s.dice [20:27]
Doffx Unless I had put all my btc in Mpex then id be up 90 or so [20:28]
Doffx So basically had I paid 20 btc id still have 70 or so [20:28]
Doffx That make sense? [20:28]
mircea_popescu sorta. [20:28]
EskimoBob If and Maybe are not investors :) [20:28]
Doffx Right [20:29]
mircea_popescu if and maybe are the best investors there are [20:29]
Doffx There was no way for me to reliably see Glbse would go under like it did. [20:29]
mircea_popescu read like yahoo boards or something [20:29]
EskimoBob 20 [20:29]
mircea_popescu Doffx now that'd be a problem. [20:29]
EskimoBob 20:20 hindsight? [20:29]
EskimoBob lol [20:29]
Doffx I knew it would go under. [20:29]
Doffx Just though it would be easy to transfer Paper shares to a log to retrieve them, but noooo... [20:30]
mircea_popescu a, that. [20:30]
mircea_popescu yeah, i don't think anyone could have imagined the explosion of fail that was awaiting in store for us there. [20:30]
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Doffx mircea_popescu, I should have paid the 20 and invested, I cant bo back in time now though so oh well. [20:30]
mircea_popescu course, smickles liquidated like a day before. [20:30]
smickles ;) [20:31]
mircea_popescu or was it two days ? [20:31]
Doffx Whats the update anyhow smickles? [20:31]
smickles it was too damn close either way mircea_popescu [20:31]
Doffx What will my 900 SS shares get me. [20:31]
smickles Doffx: with SS? no news, sadly [20:31]
smickles I can't verify that you are a share holder, so it's cruise-controll for now [20:32]
smickles did you see the latest financial report? [20:32]
Doffx It seems if I could get a number for my Sdice shares I could potentially get my btc back. [20:32]
Doffx No, I haven’t looked yet. [20:33]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1277243#msg1277243 [20:33]
mircea_popescu "look here's all the money we made that you can't touch cause i can't verify your ownership" [20:33]
smickles essentially, but, more apologetically :P [20:34]
mircea_popescu :p [20:34]
mircea_popescu so what's next on the drama programme ? [20:34]
mircea_popescu a suicide ? a wedding ? [20:35]
smickles does that mean we're tounging now? (two :p) [20:35]
mircea_popescu a double wedding suicide with cannibalism & incest ? [20:35]
Doffx Wow nice I made btc on that. [20:35]
Doffx See not all my choices were dumb mircea_popescu [20:35]
Doffx I was in two reliable assets [20:35]
mircea_popescu Doffx haha i never said they'd be [20:35]
Doffx SS, and Sdice. [20:35]
Doffx I know, I'm more making light of myself. [20:35]
mircea_popescu SS, and DerGestapo [20:35]
Doffx Id like to get both shares sold and liquidate all my BTC I need the extra cash for rl crap. [20:36]
mircea_popescu i still haven't sold pretty much any btc. [20:37]
smickles Doffx: 900 SS? what would you sell them to me at? [20:37]
Doffx Id like to get back .015 if possible. [20:38]
Doffx Thats what I bought in at thereabouts [20:38]
mircea_popescu can you buy them back ?! [20:38]
smickles mircea_popescu: if i get a contract from him saying that he sells them to me, i see no problem in it [20:39]
mircea_popescu how do you know he has any ? [20:39]
mircea_popescu i don't mean Doffx , but more in general. [20:39]
smickles oh, well, I'd have to trust the other party [20:40]
Doffx I have 900 I actually know that for sure because its been the same for months [20:40]
Doffx Sdice Im unsure of [20:40]
smickles they either have to have the shares, or get the shares when they become available [20:40]
Doffx Its like 4559 or some number [20:40]
EskimoBob I guess nefario has not contacted any issuers... damn, how is this BS going to take [20:42]
mircea_popescu considering that stuff with the dbl payments... [20:42]
smickles Doffx: i think i'd buy at 0.0109 [20:43]
Doffx I may take that offer. [20:44]
smickles Doffx: let me draft up a contract for you to review then :) [20:44]
Doffx Sounds good. [20:45]
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smickles ;;ident Doffx [20:47]
gribble Nick 'Doffx', with hostmask 'Doffx!~doff@173-160-245-174-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net', is not identified. [20:47]
smickles ;;gpg info Doffx [20:47]
gribble User 'Doffx', with keyid DE23494FA64F5DA1, fingerprint 9A9A9D9CA29C8F1FB40AC46DDE23494FA64F5DA1, and bitcoin address 1Q9FavHENPK7sATGm8ebthxG9EhQmaamw2, registered on Sat Apr 21 13:05:42 2012. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Doffx . Currently not authenticated. [20:47]
Doffx Crud, I didnt leave my PC on. [20:48]
Doffx I'm at work smickles it may have to wait until I get home to verify. [20:49]
smickles Doffx: no problem, i was just getting your fingerprint there [20:50]
Doffx Obviously you can send me the message and ill open later with my key. [20:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31195 @ 0.00043663 = 13.6207 BTC [-] [20:51]
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thestringpuller smickles you live! [21:04]
smickles it is true and good [21:04]
thestringpuller the MVP is ready smickles :) [21:06]
thestringpuller my operations guy registered the domain and all [21:06]
thestringpuller built the db and mini trading automoton [21:07]
smickles wow nice [21:08]
smickles thestringpuller: is the site live now? [21:09]
jurov smickles, do you plan to move SS to mpex when glbse stuff is sorted out? [21:10]
smickles jurov: probably not [21:10]
smickles SS is winding down and I'm launching an accounting company. [21:11]
smickles I've already sent in the incorporation papers [21:11]
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jurov if you end up doing it, i can offer your shareholders special coinbr accounts [21:12]
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thestringpuller smickles do you give discounts to btc companies? [21:12]
thestringpuller if so could we retain you for q1 2013 :) [21:13]
BTC-Mining discounts for what? [21:13]
thestringpuller accounting lol [21:13]
smickles jurov: that's a good offer, I hope you're extending that to all the glbse issuers [21:13]
jurov i already offered that to all passthrough operators [21:13]
jurov about the others.. doubt they'll get accepted on mpex [21:14]
smickles thestringpuller: I'm sure we can come to a mutually benificial arrangement without the use of marketing ploys :) [21:14]
smickles "it's ON SALE!" [21:14]
thestringpuller LOL [21:14]
thestringpuller smickles to answer your question it should be live within 48 hours to a few people [21:15]
thestringpuller i want it to be invite only [21:15]
Doffx What offers jurov? [21:16]
Doffx I must have missed a post somewhere about something [21:16]
jurov for example conibr is able to facilitate 1:1 exchange of GSDPT to S.DICE [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10975 @ 0.00043663 = 4.792 BTC [-] [21:16]
smickles Doffx: should glbse assets move to MPEx, jurov will set up asset holders with coinbr accounts [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34500 @ 0.0004365 = 15.0593 BTC [-] [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00043641 = 0.7476 BTC [-] [21:16]
jurov i made private offers [21:16]
jurov but everyone is waiting in glbbq [21:17]
jurov *on [21:17]
Doffx Ahh, that would be cool. [21:17]
Doffx I doubt mepex would allow a lot of them though [21:17]
Doffx Mpex too [21:18]
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BTC-Mining oh, Nefario made an interview with Bitcoin Magazine? [21:30]
gigavps BTC-Mining where have you been :p [21:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38300 @ 0.00043641 = 16.7145 BTC [-] [21:41]
BTC-Mining Around. I just never had the article mentioned [21:43]
BTC-Mining I mostly got info from the leaked shareholders meeting [21:43]
BTC-Mining I hope asset info is released pretty soon [21:44]
BTC-Mining I'm up to 918 Gigamining shares by the way. [21:44]
gigavps BTC-Mining that's great, only wish i could confirm that somehow [21:45]
BTC-Mining Aye, I'm sure that will be released soon enough [21:45]
gigavps have you spoken with nefario? [21:45]
BTC-Mining Not yet. I don't really need any more info than what has already been reported by those who did. [21:46]
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smickles am i up to date on that issue? some btc has been returned, but no share info? [21:51]
BTC-Mining Indeed [21:51]
thestringpuller yup [21:51]
BTC-Mining Not completly processed [21:51]
BTC-Mining https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118354 [21:52]
gigavps BTC-Mining i'm not sure if you realize this or not, but the perpetual contract can no longer exist [21:52]
gigavps the contract will have to change [21:52]
BTC-Mining Payment claims. Still many claiming to not have been paid however. [21:52]
gigavps if i get the info from glbse [21:52]
BTC-Mining gigavps: how so? [21:52]
gigavps the buyback clause cannot be executed without glbse [21:53]
gigavps no way to know the highest trading price over the last 15 days [21:53]
gigavps i guess we could use the mpex etf to come to a price [21:53]
gigavps but i don't think anyone would like that price much [21:53]
gigavps because it's .05676 per bond right now [21:54]
BTC-Mining Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually. [21:54]
gigavps LOL [21:54]
gigavps not so simple [21:54]
BTC-Mining Assuming you're willing to do that... [21:55]
gigavps unless you want me to go to prison [21:55]
smickles gigavps: wouldn't you be fine running it privately? [21:55]
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gigavps smickles my lawyer is researching what, if anything, can be done [21:56]
gigavps seems everyone things mining bonds are actually perpetual [21:56]
smickles gigavps: good to hear [21:56]
gigavps except for that pesky buy back clause that everyone chooses to ignore [21:56]
gigavps maybe we should just use the mpex highest traded price [21:57]
smickles that would be reasonable, do any of thes listing contracts mention GLBSE specifically? [21:58]
gigavps the contract was on glbse [21:58]
BTC-Mining mpex price is considerably lower however because it is not assumed not to upgrade to Teramining. [21:59]
gigavps and google cache doesn't have a cache of glbse.com/asset/view/GIGAMINING [21:59]
gigavps BTC-Mining fine, i'll double it [21:59]
gigavps just saying [21:59]
Doffx Wouldnt the twitter feed have the last sale of Gigamining> [21:59]
Doffx Or is that poof to [21:59]
gigavps my main point is that without a buyback clause that can be executed, the contract would need to be changed [22:00]
gigavps Doffx the last trade on glbse does not reflect the actions of glbse [22:00]
smickles how do you chang a contract without total concent tho? [22:00]
smickles i don't expect you had an amendment clause? [22:01]
gigavps smickles everyone who wants to get paid will probably need to agree to a new contract [22:01]
gigavps we are in uncharted waters here [22:01]
mircea_popescu smickles actually : some btc returned twice, some btc not returned. [22:02]
smickles if not uncharted, uncommon [22:02]
Doffx Yeah but you should be able to get the ave trade numbers from it since it was a running transaction log [22:02]
smickles mircea_popescu: oh yeah, i forgot about that bit [22:02]
Doffx If they still exsist [22:02]
gigavps https://twitter.com/glbse [22:02]
gigavps it exists [22:02]
mircea_popescu Simple, you'll probably have to process trades manually. << this is insanity, seriously. how is he to do trades manually ? [22:02]
gigavps but does it reflect the value of gigamining today? [22:03]
mircea_popescu actually, while at it, why not ask him to produce water manually. from like, some hydrogen gas. [22:03]
gigavps mircea_popescu i only produce methane gas [22:03]
Doffx It reflects the value at the time of Glbse closing [22:03]
smickles mircea_popescu: manually, like with individual share transfer contracts [22:03]
Doffx Its as close as you will ever get. [22:03]
gigavps you didn't answer my question [22:03]
mircea_popescu gigavps yes, methane gas, BUT NOT MANUALLY [22:03]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/glbse << speaking of this, someone should make a copy. iirc you can delete tweets. [22:04]
smickles mircea_popescu: and old tweets are disappeared by twitter [22:04]
mircea_popescu that too. [22:04]
smickles (unless you pay them for access) [22:04]
gigavps mircea_popescu someone on the forums posted the entire trading logs since glbse 2.0 [22:05]
Doffx Has anyone logged this channel since it started? [22:05]
BTC-Mining He'll have a list of which address holds how many shares. Someone with an address could sign his shares off to another address. [22:05]
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gigavps BTC-Mining I WOULD BE BREAKING THE LAW [22:05]
Doffx cat | grep GLBSE [22:05]
mircea_popescu gigavps a ok that's useful. [22:05]
smickles yeah, public trading is a no-go (in 'merica) [22:05]
gigavps Doffx i will ask my question again. Does the last traded price on glbse reflect the damage they have caused? [22:05]
BTC-Mining Well in your case, yes, being in the US is unfortunate [22:05]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining, smickles : i'm just pointing out it's inhuman to expect someone to do this manually. esp on a high volume asset. [22:06]
gigavps they being GLBSE and nefario [22:06]
Doffx I said no, but that you could use the entire log to come up with the AVE price at the time of close. [22:06]
Doffx How else will you value it? [22:06]
smickles mircea_popescu: heh, yeah, I certainly agree, but there are additional issues too [22:06]
mircea_popescu even with no consideration of any law, it's not something you can ask of people any more than you can ask them to build you a house out of dry sand [22:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39700 @ 0.00043612 = 17.314 BTC [-] [22:07]
Doffx Your going to have to do something like that eventually regardless if you get the glbse info back [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 513 @ 0.00043563 = 0.2235 BTC [-] [22:07]
gigavps Doffx i cannot [22:07]
smickles Doffx: the data is currently unknowable :/ [22:07]
gigavps i can probably make something to pay everyone coupon payments once i have the data from glbse [22:07]
Doffx I have no doubt you will come up with something fair. [22:08]
gigavps the only reason BTC-Mining owns so many gigamining shares was to flip them when they could be traded [22:08]
Doffx Some back = better than Nothing [22:08]
mircea_popescu Doffx i have logs of tiems i'm on. [22:08]
Doffx I log everything you say too. [22:08]
thestringpuller lol logs [22:09]
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mircea_popescu Doffx one day it will be worth it's weight in bitcoin [22:09]
Doffx I'm currently writing a mircea_popescu tell all book from the Logs. [22:09]
Doffx Its one page so far. [22:09]
mircea_popescu nude pix ? [22:09]
gigavps only of -pr [22:09]
Doffx Of the girl with a title that says " I told you so" [22:10]
Doffx :) [22:10]
mircea_popescu lol [22:10]
Doffx I bet that nude picks of mircea_popescu would sell better than the girl if priced right. [22:10]
Doffx Curiosity I bet, how scary is this dude [22:11]
BTC-Mining Hmm, but would it be illegal to merely transfer shares upon request? I'd assume AML would be required for that. [22:11]
gigavps sounds like Doffx is going to be bidding [22:11]
Doffx .00000001 [22:11]
mircea_popescu i'm pretty scary. [22:12]
gigavps BTC-Mining glbse has royally effed 1000s of people [22:12]
mircea_popescu well... 100s. [22:13]
* gigavps watches mircea_popescu's ego inflate [22:13]
Doffx haha [22:14]
mircea_popescu my ego is kinda stonework & masonry. pretty big, but also pretty uninflatable. [22:14]
gigavps nice [22:14]
Doffx Only channel I logged was btcst that was for Pirate tidbits. [22:14]
Doffx I dont bother anymore. [22:14]
thestringpuller logging is hard with irssi [22:14]
mircea_popescu there's little difference between assbot and twitter anyway, seeing how it just echos [22:15]
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thestringpuller dis here [22:17]
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smickles thestringpuller: irssi logs hard? [22:23]
thestringpuller to setup with my tgumbs [22:23]
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jurov randall munroe is following bitcoinland, too http://xkcd.com/1124/ [22:27]
smickles I have trouble with my tgumbs too. I just don't understand them [22:27]
mircea_popescu he's in thw wot even [22:28]
smickles mircea_popescu: i've seen him on #bitcoin [22:28]
smickles ;;seen #bitcoin rmonroe [22:28]
gribble I have not seen rmonroe. [22:28]
smickles not lately, apparently [22:29]
mircea_popescu gribble lies [22:29]
smickles he used to chat there a little, then he idled for months [22:29]
smickles i wonder if he even does that now [22:29]
smickles well, he's idle there [22:30]
smickles i wonder if he checks it anyway [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00043891 = 4.3891 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55000 @ 0.00044 = 24.2 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00044236 = 19.5081 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00044277 = 10.3165 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1606 @ 0.00044306 = 0.7116 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00044336 = 0.798 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35619 @ 0.0004438 = 15.8077 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55600 @ 0.00044394 = 24.6831 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10804 @ 0.00044408 = 4.7978 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36300 @ 0.00044435 = 16.1299 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46145 @ 0.00044437 = 20.5055 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00044527 = 11.3544 BTC [+] [22:30]
mircea_popescu eeee [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43000 @ 0.00044539 = 19.1518 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00044549 = 2.1829 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.0004457 = 20.6359 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10026 @ 0.00044695 = 4.4811 BTC [+] [22:30]
thestringpuller whoop whooo [22:31]
smickles )0_o-i [22:31]
thestringpuller munroe is cool [22:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17314 @ 0.00043563 = 7.5425 BTC [-] [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4537 @ 0.00043543 = 1.9755 BTC [-] [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31349 @ 0.00043537 = 13.6484 BTC [-] [22:56]
jurov mircea_popescu, the dividends are announced in rss, too? [23:00]
jurov or on twatter...i can't find any sample [23:00]
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smickles jurov: assbot announces the dividends for mpex listing [23:09]
smickles somehow [23:09]
kakobrekla somewhat. [23:09]
kakobrekla yeah :) [23:09]
gigavps somewhere :p [23:10]
jurov and pulls them from where? [23:10]
kakobrekla twitter [23:10]
jurov who programmed assbot? parsing function would be kindly appreciated [23:11]
kakobrekla It was I, LeClerc. [23:12]
kakobrekla give me a sec or so im in the middle of something [23:13]
Azelphur jurov: I wrote a bot that does the same thing, it's on github at https://github.com/Azelphur/BitcoinAssets [23:15]
smickles :D [23:15]
thestringpuller i want the mint chart api lol [23:15]
smickles glwt [23:15]
jurov thanks! [23:16]
smickles support@mint.com [23:16]
smickles lol, that would be amazing if they were gave you the code to the charts :D [23:16]
smickles does this make sense?: [23:17]
smickles No amendment, change, or modification to this agreement will be effective or enforceable unless the text of it is appended to the end of a copy of this agreement and any previous amendments, changes, or modifications, which is signed by all parties involved, and signed by all parties involved. [23:17]
jurov ...copy of this agreement INCLUDING any previous... [23:18]
jurov feels clearer [23:18]
smickles ah, it does [23:19]
smickles thx jurov :D [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20851 @ 0.00043537 = 9.0779 BTC [-] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5349 @ 0.00043478 = 2.3256 BTC [-] [23:22]
mircea_popescu jurov yes [23:23]
mircea_popescu Azelphur speaking of that bot, how's dev coming along ? [23:24]
kakobrekla jurov that alzy script wont give you dividends afaik, see pm [23:24]
Azelphur yea, mine doesn't parse dividends [23:24]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: still need to get working on it [23:25]
mircea_popescu smickles that sounded painful. [23:25]
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mircea_popescu but as a matter of principle, i don't think it's a good idea to allow such a thing. you will conceivably end up with 2mb of signatureporn [23:25]
jurov mostly done it using RSS instead and that's a bit different... so i'm on my own anyway [23:29]
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mircea_popescu im not sure there is a rss feed of dividends >< [23:33]
mircea_popescu is there ? [23:33]
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mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bto7vH-rz-E [23:37]
smickles recursive gpg --verify ftw [23:37]
smickles ! [23:37]
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kakobrekla o, this is new https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119745.0 [23:39]
mircea_popescu talk to me in 5 years, when we're back rubbing sticks together cause you fucked up civilisation. [23:39]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla bitcoinica umm... 5.0 ? [23:40]
kakobrekla it accualy uses their codebase rofl [23:41]
mircea_popescu Nice, but you could have at least plugged the most obvious security holes of the Bitcoinica source code before re-using it. [23:41]
mircea_popescu ahahaha wunderbar. [23:41]
dub haha [23:41]
mircea_popescu Thanks Davout, [23:41]
mircea_popescu I handed over to the developper and meanwhile added a routine to check and correct users leverage. [23:41]
mircea_popescu zee develloper [23:42]
dub Bitfinex, How does it works? [23:42]
mircea_popescu it works like majigz [23:42]
mircea_popescu anyway, this double p thing is quite fetching. i think i will double all my p's from now on given that english uses entirely too few p's in the first pplace [23:43]
mircea_popescu and never fucken doubles them [23:43]
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kakobrekla you are pprolly onto something [23:44]
mircea_popescu "I'm having mixed feeling towards this project. The security measures you have implemented seem really great, and inspire great confidence in your service. Using the source of a service that had some major issues, not so much." [23:45]
mircea_popescu if that forum ever goes away i shall miss it [23:45]
mircea_popescu Hi Mushoz, I understand this concern, there was a general lack of security features, that we tried to correct to the best, and that's why we're in beta. Hey, we already had a bug with Davout, because no check of the leverage! [23:46]
smickles pput a sock in it [23:46]
smickles ;D [23:46]
mircea_popescu this vaguely reminds me of the hapy-go-lucky attitude of that bitdaytrader dood, who was explaining how his best friend made over 21mn btc (by exploiting one of the umpteen bbilion holes in his "code") [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1220 @ 0.00043478 = 0.5304 BTC [-] [23:47]
jurov First, we invested so reserve funds adnd are ready (able) to take up to 400 btc and 4000 usd loss if shit should happen during the beta. [23:47]
jurov sounds almost like a bounty :) [23:48]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.70000, Best ask: 11.70001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.70000, 24 hour volume: 34341.96626791, 24 hour low: 11.47110, 24 hour high: 11.81000, 24 hour vwap: 11.69566 [23:48]
mircea_popescu whew. for a moment there i thought we're at 10 now. [23:48]
mircea_popescu WAIT! [23:48]
mircea_popescu omg nanotube stole my ticker format! [23:48]
mircea_popescu THIS IS INFRINGATORY THEFT [23:49]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [23:49]
gribble 1 BTC = 11.70000 U.S. dollars = 8.96895362 Euros [23:49]
EskimoBob LOL! "International Karmic Bitcoin Bank of Ponyville" [23:49]
EskimoBob 10% weekly :) [23:50]
mircea_popescu come to think about it... developopper sounds better than developper. [23:50]
mircea_popescu "Finally to answer your specific example: a user balance won't be able to be withdrawn to negative because we would have checked it (and the balances work without bugs)." [23:51]
dub hmm [23:51]
mircea_popescu this is too good. i wish for myself this proscriptive ability where you draw the limits of what may to fail aforehand. [23:51]
mircea_popescu sure takes all the scary out of risk management. [23:51]
kakobrekla im confused why no trolls are screaming 'scam' [23:51]
mircea_popescu cause it doesn't seem at all legitimate ? [23:52]
mircea_popescu Quote from: davout on Today at 01:28:33 PM [23:52]
mircea_popescu What about the infamous race conditions ? [23:52]
mircea_popescu According to my guy he used a hook called "after_commit" where needed, but I'm currently reviewing the code. Meanwhile if you can execute it that means he didn't do enough! [23:52]
mircea_popescu hey! [23:52]
kakobrekla hm if he is reviewing, why didnt he just code it himself [23:53]
mircea_popescu doesn't it sound a lot more important this way ? [23:53]
EskimoBob we can all feel warm and fuzzy now :) [23:54]
dub the english is too good for alberto [23:54]
mircea_popescu dub he's the lover. [23:54]
dub the fuck is this gox bot doing [23:58]
mircea_popescu hm? [23:59]
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