Forum logs for 22 Feb 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063173 = 2.7297 BTC [-] | [00:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15289 @ 0.00063188 = 9.6608 BTC [+] | [00:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 893 @ 0.00063548 = 0.5675 BTC [+] | [00:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063072 = 3.0275 BTC [-] | [00:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2140 @ 0.00063036 = 1.349 BTC [-] | [00:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 743 @ 0.00063548 = 0.4722 BTC [+] | [00:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063598 = 10.1757 BTC [+] | [00:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2073 @ 0.00063599 = 1.3184 BTC [+] | [00:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2181 @ 0.00063036 = 1.3748 BTC [-] | [00:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00063036 = 8.7021 BTC [-] | [00:18] |
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maximian | s.dice is currently up 10162 BTC for the month, not bad | [00:28] |
maximian | ;;calc 0.00010162 / 0.00597198 | [00:28] |
gribble | 0.0170161320031 | [00:28] |
maximian | yields 1.7% per month at current price | [00:28] |
maximian | what other bitcoin stock performs like that and isn't a scam? | [00:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2195 @ 0.00063036 = 1.3836 BTC [-] | [00:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063036 = 2.7238 BTC [-] | [00:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00063036 = 8.7021 BTC [-] | [00:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7729 @ 0.00063035 = 4.872 BTC [-] | [00:31] |
Namworld | BTC-BOND pays almost 1% per month | [00:31] |
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DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [00:37] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.80001, Best ask: 29.86000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05999, Last trade: 29.86000, 24 hour volume: 33027.28505548, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.67916 | [00:37] |
DeadWeasel | is there a command to get gox lag? | [00:37] |
iz | ;;goxlag | [00:38] |
gribble | 0 seconds | [00:38] |
DeadWeasel | thank u, iz | [00:38] |
iz | np | [00:38] |
jurov | How a bitcoin technical question inevitably goes political: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144895.0 | [00:38] |
jurov | funny how one can get psyched about it | [00:39] |
DeadWeasel | christ, 17 pages on that post already? | [00:39] |
DeadWeasel | i saw it start and just ignored it | [00:39] |
DeadWeasel | seems like the right call | [00:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4167 @ 0.00063036 = 2.6267 BTC [+] | [00:40] |
jurov | well, it shouldn't worry me as a prospective btc banker at all | [00:40] |
jurov | but i just don't like having 1M limit and transactions with $20 fees | [00:41] |
jurov | as some "members" imagine | [00:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00063036 = 2.2693 BTC [+] | [00:41] |
jurov | cause they want to play with their nebulous off-blockchain schemes | [00:42] |
jurov | they even propose to get funding from bitcoin foundation for it | [00:42] |
jurov | as if it was more important than improving the BTC protocol itself | [00:43] |
kakobrekla | makes me wanna spam the blockchain | [00:44] |
jurov | they even told me that instead of having IPv4 with 64bit addresses proper and thus avoiding NAT, | [00:44] |
jurov | IPv6 should have come sooner? | [00:44] |
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jurov | kako, we should just join btc foundation and introduce some healthy reason there | [00:46] |
jurov | fortunately gavin has his wit together, but he seems alone | [00:47] |
kakobrekla | hrm | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | [00:48] | |
mircea_popescu | being the bitcoin lead developer is part time kindergarten headmaster. | [00:48] |
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jurov | sauce: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2013/02/21#l5998176 | [00:52] |
jurov | ^ unlike btctalk, peeps are quite intelligent, you may find it bearable to read it | [00:53] |
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kakobrekla | phantomcircuit 1GiB blocks doesn't seem... practical | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | yeah | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | well no difference on the end | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | if its 10 blocks 1 gig or 1 10 gig | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | you can have n blocks in a minute | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | so not really a fix | [00:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00587398 = 7.3425 BTC [-] | [00:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063579 = 2.7472 BTC [+] | [00:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00063597 = 5.0242 BTC [+] | [00:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00063598 = 8.7797 BTC [+] | [00:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10661 @ 0.00063599 = 6.7803 BTC [+] | [00:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3263 @ 0.00063654 = 2.077 BTC [+] | [00:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+] | [01:02] |
DeadWeasel | blockchain takes up 7.6GB on my pc. | [01:02] |
jurov | don't you have terabyte hdd? | [01:03] |
DeadWeasel | no, that's diablo, I have a 500gb and 60gb ssd | [01:03] |
DeadWeasel | coupel of externals if I need | [01:03] |
DeadWeasel | I get the best bang for the buck, and older drives are sellig cheap | [01:03] |
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DeadWeasel | would like to upgrade my ssd, but I'm not sure the OS will reinstall correctly on the the ssd. | [01:04] |
DeadWeasel | Do you know if remastersys is a true ISO installation after you create it? | [01:04] |
DeadWeasel | or does it retain partitions? | [01:04] |
DeadWeasel | nevermind, that's for #linux | [01:04] |
DeadWeasel | brg | [01:04] |
Diablo-D3 | I dont have a 1tb hd | [01:04] |
DeadWeasel | brb | [01:04] |
DeadWeasel | you have 2tb | [01:05] |
jurov | lol | [01:05] |
Diablo-D3 | I have 2 400gb in raid 1, 4x750 in raid 5, and thats now being switched over to 2x2tb raid 1 and Ill have 2 spare 750s | [01:05] |
DeadWeasel | send me a 750 | [01:05] |
Diablo-D3 | and btw, are you on 0.8.0? | [01:05] |
Diablo-D3 | you have two copies of the chain | [01:05] |
Diablo-D3 | one leveldb, one bdb | [01:05] |
jurov | i have one 1.5TB 5400rpm "WD Green" and two bitcoinds happily on top of it | [01:05] |
Diablo-D3 | you dont need the other one anymore | [01:05] |
DeadWeasel | crikey, does that mean 14gb of blockchain? | [01:05] |
DeadWeasel | oh, I have two copies now? | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | DeadWeasel: no, the blockchain isnt that big to begin with | [01:06] |
DeadWeasel | why did I have 7.6 gb in my bitcoin qt directory? | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | okay I lied | [01:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-] | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | apparently the chain IS 7.3gb now | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | what the fuck | [01:06] |
DeadWeasel | damn | [01:06] |
DeadWeasel | yeah | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | $ du -sh .bitcoin | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | 7.3G .bitcoin | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | when the fuck did that happen | [01:06] |
DeadWeasel | i uninstalled that shit, I had to do a backup | [01:06] |
DeadWeasel | i'll get it back later, thinking of multibit | [01:06] |
jurov | while you were playing satoshidice | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | it was only like 3gb a month or tow ago | [01:06] |
DeadWeasel | anyone used that? | [01:06] |
Diablo-D3 | jurov: I hate SD | [01:07] |
kakobrekla | also on a side note, funny, i remember people saying "we are paying banks to hold a number in a db, ridiculus, use btc, be your own bank" | [01:07] |
Diablo-D3 | its bloating the chain with trash | [01:07] |
kakobrekla | well there ya go. | [01:07] |
iz | mo transactions, mo problems... | [01:07] |
Diablo-D3 | I wish I was friedcat | [01:07] |
DeadWeasel | SD is doing that. | [01:07] |
Diablo-D3 | I'd solo mine and refuse tx for SD | [01:07] |
DeadWeasel | but what options is there? it's an economy. | [01:07] |
DeadWeasel | what do you solo mine with? | [01:07] |
jurov | what are you all on? i'll happily accept 1TB blockchain.. its still little price for btc freedom | [01:08] |
Diablo-D3 | DeadWeasel: I dont solo anything, I use p2pool | [01:08] |
DeadWeasel | oh, i saw that wrong | [01:08] |
jurov | you really want btc to be usable off a floppy with 1200 baud connection? | [01:08] |
Diablo-D3 | jurov: becuase if SD keeps continuing at this rate, thats 1GB a year | [01:08] |
DeadWeasel | that would be hilarious. | [01:08] |
jurov | 1GB an year, go on! | [01:09] |
DeadWeasel | my commodore 64 hashing the blockchain. 1 block every 15 years | [01:09] |
jurov | we can manage 1TB a year, it's 2013! | [01:09] |
jurov | someone is stuck in 1990's | [01:09] |
DeadWeasel | it's true, storage technology is keeping pace | [01:09] |
jborkl | I got a 32gb flash drive for 9 bucks | [01:09] |
DeadWeasel | where? | [01:10] |
DeadWeasel | jborkl^ | [01:10] |
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DeadWeasel | you keep your cold wallet on there? | [01:10] |
jborkl | with my external hdd, a coupon extra from best buy | [01:10] |
DeadWeasel | nice | [01:10] |
jborkl | storage is cheap | [01:10] |
DeadWeasel | it is. | [01:10] |
DeadWeasel | i just don't need anymore. | [01:10] |
DeadWeasel | i've got all of 170GB including OS and video/music/docs/dev stuff | [01:11] |
DeadWeasel | lean mean machine | [01:11] |
DeadWeasel | but I'll glady take a 32GB key for $9 | [01:11] |
DeadWeasel | I feel like there is a manipulator keepng the price just under 30 right now | [01:11] |
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DeadWeasel | for the weekend, then use the lemmings and his own power to push past 30.31.32 | [01:12] |
jurov | ;;ticker | [01:12] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.78090, Best ask: 29.89999, Bid-ask spread: 0.11909, Last trade: 29.90999, 24 hour volume: 32622.24662481, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.67901 | [01:12] |
DeadWeasel | then dump again | [01:12] |
DeadWeasel | volume dropping for the evening it seems? | [01:12] |
midnightmagic | jurov: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=135110703125929&w=2 | [01:13] |
DeadWeasel | coingenuity: you there? | [01:14] |
Diablo-D3 | Im thinking about selling my 100btc | [01:14] |
DeadWeasel | why is my invoice from Cheyanne Wyoming, but you say you are all sleeping as if you ar eon the other side of the world? | [01:14] |
Diablo-D3 | and buy some shit I want | [01:14] |
DeadWeasel | Diablo-D3: I feel you. | [01:14] |
jurov | midnightmagic, what do you meant? | [01:14] |
DeadWeasel | I sold to cover my investment, so my money is out, my other 150BTC is all profit if I sell | [01:14] |
DeadWeasel | but I don't know what to do | [01:15] |
coingenuity | DeadWeasel: yes? | [01:15] |
coingenuity | what's cooking | [01:15] |
Diablo-D3 | DeadWeasel: people will probably bitch that Im stealing from dmc, but I dont give two fucks | [01:16] |
Diablo-D3 | its my money, and the money didnt come from dmc | [01:16] |
Diablo-D3 | so they can suck my nuts | [01:16] |
DeadWeasel | coingenuity: Cheyanne WY | [01:16] |
DeadWeasel | but you all sleep during the day? | [01:16] |
coingenuity | no? | [01:16] |
midnightmagic | jurov: What do you mean, what do I mean? I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying IPv6 kinda sucks for what it's become, and I'm not surprised at all it's not installed everywhere right now. | [01:17] |
DeadWeasel | Weird, you said you were all sleeping when I sent my emails. I'm just making sure my shipments is coming from outside the US | [01:17] |
DeadWeasel | BTW, thank you for INVOICE, makes my taxes much easier | [01:17] |
DeadWeasel | you da man | [01:17] |
DeadWeasel | and for putting up with me. I will likely work with you again. Also, if you have a particular area you need a review in, let me know. | [01:17] |
coingenuity | NP, that's why i made it that way(with a lot of USD numeracy) :D | [01:17] |
coingenuity | your order comes from the USA, but we ship worldwide with no issues excepting some rare countries | [01:18] |
coingenuity | and with special customs forms to make sure you don't get charged taxes, if that is the case in your country | [01:18] |
DeadWeasel | I see, that bitctalk thread was worrisome, felt as if it wsa coming ex-USA. | [01:18] |
DeadWeasel | you might want to clarify on that thread that you are US based. | [01:18] |
jurov | midnightmagic, i see, but it's not so obvious. you could have meant something "ipv6 needs nat too" :) | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | what's wrong with nat anyway ? | [01:18] |
pigeons | fuck nat and fuck those people that want ipv6 nat | [01:18] |
DeadWeasel | Also, never found anything in my spam. So gmail might be filtering on a higher level. | [01:18] |
mircea_popescu | o.o | [01:19] |
DeadWeasel | shitty. | [01:19] |
coingenuity | DeadWeasel: we're pretty verbose about it, not sure why people get a different impression, but yeah- always ship from the usa, no matter what | [01:19] |
DeadWeasel | fuck IPV6 altogether, the protocol is still shit | [01:19] |
coingenuity | DeadWeasel: even set up our distribution network such that we're close to the biggest airports in the world for expedited global processing ;) | [01:19] |
coingenuity | but yeah, i agree= it looks like a high-level filter to me | [01:19] |
DeadWeasel | coingenuity: that's awesome. The most recent thread doesn't make that clear, and new customers will find that first. | [01:19] |
DeadWeasel | I will update that thread since you've worked so closely with me. | [01:20] |
jurov | mircea_popescu behind nat you are second class net citizen...just cuz some dumbass misallocated the bits | [01:20] |
coingenuity | DeadWeasel: thanks, we do our best to be communicative despite being a small company with people working 20 hour days, lmao | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i don't get it ? | [01:20] |
jurov | you share ip address with other users and nobody can connect to your computer directly, you have to initiate the connection or it has to involve third party | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | the fact that nobody can connect directly to my terminal is perfect. | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | why should they, why would they. | [01:22] |
coingenuity | mircea_popescu: but i want to! | [01:22] |
coingenuity | >.> | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | and i don't share the connection at all. i own the ip ranges and i use nat routers pretty much everwhere | [01:22] |
jurov | mircea_popescu, firewall is for that purpose | [01:22] |
mircea_popescu | lol coingenuity | [01:22] |
jurov | mircea_popescu i pay 4 euros/mo for ip addy | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i trust a router more than some software solution. | [01:23] |
jurov | it's normal around | [01:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063433 = 2.7409 BTC [-] | [01:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4579 @ 0.00063402 = 2.9032 BTC [-] | [01:23] |
jurov | firewall can be dedicated, too | [01:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 449 @ 0.00063654 = 0.2858 BTC [+] | [01:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063688 = 2.752 BTC [+] | [01:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7030 @ 0.00063688 = 4.4773 BTC [+] | [01:23] |
jurov | and i really hope your router isn't $10 crap if you trust it so much | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | well sure. but a router is an inexpensive, widely available, easily deployable well specified item | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | it's perfect, i don't see whythe hate. | [01:24] |
pigeons | nothing wrong with routers, for routing. | [01:24] |
jurov | it's like... when i got my first non-dialup connection (by putting computer with wificard to attic and scanning the ether lol) | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | well sure, as a solution to the ip limit problem they're kludgy | [01:25] |
jurov | it was fascinating i can put anything on the computer | [01:26] |
jurov | and anyone in the world can come and see it, use it | [01:26] |
jurov | just, freedom | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | ya well. | [01:26] |
jurov | behing nat you cant do it | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | i don't want to do it. | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | and i specifically get non-wireless routers at that. | [01:26] |
jurov | cuz you can pay $$ to get the server elsewhere | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | the isp ppl were looking at me like i was a talking bear or something | [01:27] |
jurov | my crazy ideas like public linux shell server aren't welcome at any hosting | [01:27] |
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jurov | at least not like at such price it earns | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | well wtf, why run a public shell | [01:27] |
jurov | just for fun... and being able to do stuff from behind comapny firewall | [01:28] |
jurov | that doesn't allow ssh | [01:28] |
mircea_popescu | what is this, the semi competent half serious hacker ? | [01:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00587398 = 11.748 BTC [-] | [01:29] |
jurov | okay, you play elsewhere | [01:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063679 = 2.7516 BTC [-] | [01:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5679 @ 0.00063688 = 3.6168 BTC [+] | [01:31] |
jurov | and you know any "fully competent" and "serious" hackers? | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | yes. also pornstars, escorts, dope dealers, politicians, investors, actresses and rockstars. | [01:33] |
jurov | and were they so competent and serious in their 20s, too? | [01:34] |
jurov | heck, even 30s. lol | [01:34] |
mircea_popescu | actually most hackers give up hacking by the time they're 30 | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | move on to more respectable endeavours like playing games and shit. | [01:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3158 @ 0.00063688 = 2.0113 BTC [+] | [01:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10058 @ 0.00063689 = 6.4058 BTC [+] | [01:36] |
midnightmagic | jurov: Nope. I made a comment about it while you were talking with petertodd but I think it was lost in the scrollback. | [01:37] |
jurov | ah now i remember | [01:37] |
jurov | but i think wherther ipv6 is good or not, was besides the point | [01:39] |
jurov | the point is, to allow extending capacity currently well working thing while it is possible | [01:39] |
jurov | otherwise kludgy hacks ensue | [01:41] |
DeadWeasel | anybody have any ideas for my shit site I put up with no original content? http://zeroconfirmations.com | [01:41] |
DeadWeasel | I figure i could review all my dealings with bitocin related businesses | [01:42] |
DeadWeasel | or something | [01:42] |
DeadWeasel | help a brotha out with ideas | [01:42] |
jurov | bitcoin business reviews would not be bad | [01:43] |
pigeons | DeadWeasel: fake quote alert on the ben franklin | [01:43] |
DeadWeasel | haha thanks pigeons | [01:43] |
DeadWeasel | you never know with that shit | [01:43] |
DeadWeasel | how did you know? | [01:43] |
DeadWeasel | i'll deal with it later. | [01:43] |
DeadWeasel | the Woman is yelling at me. Send me Ideas, they stored in the log | [01:43] |
pigeons | cause its the declaration of independence not the constitution that mentions "pursuit of happiness (property)" | [01:44] |
pigeons | well, really cause he never said that | [01:44] |
jurov | quote Linus Torvalds instead: Bitcoin is user friendly. It just chooses who his friends are. | [01:48] |
kakobrekla | DeadWeasel, you can change anon to pseudonymous to be more correct | [01:51] |
jurov | or "He Who Shall Not Be Named" | [01:52] |
kakobrekla | DeadWeasel and id put drugs on that list on the last place if needs to be | [01:52] |
jurov | and third row should be "Virtual Private Shows" | [01:52] |
DeadWeasel | I have two minutes, those are all awesome suggestions and will be fixed | [01:53] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [01:54] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.80009, Best ask: 29.80010, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 29.80000, 24 hour volume: 34766.89802243, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.68182 | [01:54] |
DeadWeasel | awesome stuff. I put this together in two hours with no idea for content. The first paragraph is too preachy I think | [01:54] |
kakobrekla | tldr | [01:54] |
DeadWeasel | I'll reorder and word much. It won't go truly live until I have some content | [01:54] |
thestringpuller | Namworld: where you at? | [01:54] |
DeadWeasel | but I wanted ya'll input | [01:54] |
DeadWeasel | thank you! | [01:54] |
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DeadWeasel | pigeons, good to know, thx | [01:55] |
jurov | and you forgot bitcoin investments completely | [01:55] |
DeadWeasel | so I'll stick to the reviews Idea | [01:55] |
jurov | being on #bitcoin-assets, quite weird :) | [01:55] |
DeadWeasel | I'll review investments as I try them | [01:55] |
DeadWeasel | bitfunder is my only experience | [01:55] |
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DeadWeasel | i'm not an mpex high roller | [01:56] |
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DeadWeasel | just a peon | [01:56] |
jurov | you can try coinbr, i have some tips for bugs | [01:56] |
kakobrekla | yeah #bitcoin-assets got its own page, its just not public yet | [01:56] |
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DeadWeasel | i'll go through this log after dinner and make adjustments. This is great stuff. | [01:56] |
jurov | so you can write scathing review | [01:56] |
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DeadWeasel | jurov: thanks! hahaha, you can let me know | [01:56] |
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DeadWeasel | I'll have to sort out comments | [01:56] |
DeadWeasel | gotta roll before lady get's mad. | [01:57] |
kakobrekla | domesticate her differently. | [01:57] |
jurov | oh, you're here instead in bed with wife? good lad | [01:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00063673 = 10.7607 BTC [-] | [02:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063411 = 3.1706 BTC [-] | [02:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 364 @ 0.00063403 = 0.2308 BTC [-] | [02:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00584883 = 2.9244 BTC [-] | [02:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00584883 = 1.7546 BTC [-] | [02:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00584882 = 2.9244 BTC [-] | [02:02] |
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burnside | hey all, how goes it? | [02:07] |
burnside | kakobrekla I've seen a few mentions of LTC-GLOBAL here. I didn't really think there would be, but if there's interest in tying that in for trading I'm happy to. | [02:08] |
burnside | could probably convert to btc on the fly or something if that made more sense. | [02:09] |
burnside | with assbot that is | [02:09] |
thestringpuller | 18:35 < mircea_popescu> actually most hackers give up hacking by the time they're 30 | [02:09] |
thestringpuller | 18:35 < mircea_popescu> actually most hackers give up hacking by the time they're 30 << http://24.media.tumblr.com/9a38d3e2ad6140232d68005eaa93409f/tumblr_mfr20sz41o1rmoufuo1_500.gif | [02:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00063689 = 3.7577 BTC [+] | [02:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063415 = 2.7402 BTC [-] | [02:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10044 @ 0.00063403 = 6.3682 BTC [-] | [02:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3507 @ 0.00063402 = 2.2235 BTC [-] | [02:17] |
Bowjob | so any idea why dice tanked? | [02:20] |
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BitHub | its tanking? | [02:22] |
pigeons | no | [02:23] |
pigeons | down a little today | [02:23] |
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Bowjob | kinda far from .73 | [02:24] |
burnside | I bought in right before the big 2 mil sale, heh. couldn't have timed it worse. | [02:25] |
Bowjob | that whale is gonna have to work lots of hours at mcdicks | [02:26] |
Bowjob | to make up for his 37k btc loss | [02:26] |
Namworld | Just one million | [02:26] |
burnside | maybe sleep in a cot in the corner | [02:26] |
Namworld | That guy probably had the most fun of his life gambling. His 1 million lasted quite a long time for many bets | [02:27] |
Bowjob | he still has around 3k left | [02:27] |
Bowjob | i wonder why hed stop | [02:27] |
Namworld | He's waiting for his 3k to be worth 1 million | [02:28] |
Namworld | xD | [02:29] |
burnside | might not be all that long. heh | [02:29] |
Bowjob | he'd be better if he just sat with his 40k | [02:30] |
Bowjob | lol | [02:30] |
Bowjob | http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ | [02:30] |
Bowjob | It closed now | [02:30] |
Bowjob | 900 vs 800 BTC | [02:30] |
Bowjob | I hope the 900 wins | [02:30] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00065 = 0.0039 BTC [+] | [02:32] |
Namworld | I hope people buy more of these PT of mine | [02:33] |
Namworld | I need to cycle selling and buying more. Reach a worthwhile outstanding amount. | [02:34] |
DeadWeasel | jurov: VPS, virutal private shows? | [02:35] |
DeadWeasel | jurov: you mean cams? | [02:35] |
DeadWeasel | you pulling my chain | [02:35] |
DeadWeasel | ? | [02:35] |
Bowjob | Oh hoh ho | [02:36] |
Bowjob | Sticky: 20 - 31 cm of snow is enough to paralyse bfl.location | [02:36] |
Namworld | DeadWeasel, what? | [02:38] |
DeadWeasel | he's giving me feedback on a total shit site I just jammed up on an EC2 server. | [02:40] |
Namworld | ah | [02:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063601 = 2.7482 BTC [+] | [02:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22479 @ 0.00063596 = 14.2957 BTC [-] | [02:49] |
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thestringpuller | Namworld: | [02:52] |
thestringpuller | i msged you | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2971 @ 0.00063596 = 1.8894 BTC [-] | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13229 @ 0.00063402 = 8.3875 BTC [-] | [02:52] |
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DeadWeasel | here are my updates: http://54.235.171.204/zero.html | [03:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4142 @ 0.00063689 = 2.638 BTC [+] | [03:05] |
DeadWeasel | Namworld: , kakobrekla , pigeons http://54.235.171.204/zero.html | [03:06] |
pigeons | Ukto: who are these guys? https://bitfunder.com/asset/ASIC.COOP | [03:06] |
DeadWeasel | usagi: give me input if you have time http://54.235.171.204/zero.html | [03:08] |
DeadWeasel | usagi: I DON"T KNOW | [03:09] |
BitHub | looks a bit dodgy pigeons | [03:09] |
BitHub | i wouldn't buy any :/ | [03:09] |
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DeadWeasel | usagi: I think i will mostly do reviews of services I've used | [03:09] |
DeadWeasel | and continue to use. become the angies list of bitcoin services | [03:09] |
DeadWeasel | my idea anyway | [03:09] |
BitHub | ASIC.COOP owns a 3 BitForce Single SC order. The order date is July 14th 2012. - and they want 1btc a share? | [03:10] |
DeadWeasel | reputation based currency, reputation directory | [03:10] |
BitHub | are they serious? | [03:10] |
* | BitHub smells a scam | [03:10] |
DeadWeasel | hahahahaha, asic.coop | [03:10] |
DeadWeasel | BS | [03:10] |
pigeons | DeadWeasel: check out stuffexists.com for inspiration on angies list type thing. needs updating though | [03:10] |
DeadWeasel | thanks! | [03:10] |
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DeadWeasel | pigeons: that is a huge resource. gracias! | [03:12] |
Namworld | yeah but they suck... | [03:15] |
burnside | deadweasel, I'd be interested in a review of btct.co | [03:16] |
burnside | if you've used the other exchanges a bit, I'm always looking for ways to improve. | [03:16] |
DeadWeasel | Only bitfunder and setup an account on btct.co | [03:17] |
DeadWeasel | it would take me a week, since I ahve a full time job. | [03:17] |
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DeadWeasel | But I am going with the review angle. Just got ot sort it out. and the rest of the HTML | [03:17] |
DeadWeasel | burnside: ^^ | [03:18] |
DeadWeasel | usagi: I'll check it out, add it to the list | [03:18] |
burnside | sounds great, let me know what you come up with. | [03:18] |
burnside | definitely check out cryptostocks too | [03:18] |
burnside | and coinbr.com | [03:18] |
DeadWeasel | it's on my to do list now. | [03:18] |
burnside | usagi I think everyone has quality control issues. it's a huge challenge for all the exchanges. | [03:19] |
thestringpuller | ;;bc,stats | [03:20] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222447 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1328 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 4 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4341299.39731 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.90675 | [03:20] |
burnside | even MPEx which has been pretty picky has had some stuff go bad. | [03:20] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR | [03:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC) | [03:20] |
burnside | That would definitely help | [03:21] |
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burnside | I was thinking about having a requirement that you actually have been in business for at least 6 months before listing | [03:21] |
DeadWeasel | listing fees should be higher | [03:21] |
burnside | at least for the stocks and bonds | [03:21] |
DeadWeasel | make it an escrow kind of hting. | [03:21] |
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burnside | The escrow side of things I've thought a lot about. The problem is that if the goal is for them to raise funds, well then escrow completely negates the benefit of raising funds. | [03:23] |
burnside | what's the point of selling shares if the company can't use the cash | [03:23] |
DeadWeasel | i see. well, if they want to list, they have to put up the trust cash | [03:23] |
DeadWeasel | they will make much more if htey are worht it. If they do well, it is returned | [03:23] |
DeadWeasel | this is the real world. it can't always be run by the seat of our pants | [03:24] |
pigeons | https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts#Example_3:_Assurance_contracts | [03:24] |
burnside | one of the things we considered early on was having trading fees higher on the new assets. would deter traders who are not confident in the new asset. | [03:24] |
DeadWeasel | to safeguard your good name as an exchange, that is totally worth it. | [03:26] |
DeadWeasel | even if you have only 5 assets... it's better than 15 with 10 bad | [03:26] |
DeadWeasel | more money for those 5 | [03:26] |
DeadWeasel | because more trust, more per person, maybe more people if the trust is high enough | [03:26] |
DeadWeasel | quality over quantity, if you can prove that, you will be the #1 exchange. | [03:27] |
DeadWeasel | proving that means high standards | [03:27] |
burnside | that's very true | [03:27] |
DeadWeasel | mirceaP is not nice, but he keeps out the riff-raff pretty well | [03:27] |
burnside | that's largely why I put together the moderation system | [03:27] |
DeadWeasel | i will have to check it out, sorry I haven't yet. Will do very soon. | [03:27] |
burnside | hoping that XX voters in the community will be more eyes and ears into scams than just myself | [03:28] |
DeadWeasel | cannot rely on that. You can trust them, but you MUST VERIFY with your own investigation, personal communcation | [03:28] |
DeadWeasel | TRUST, but VERIFY | [03:28] |
DeadWeasel | without that, btc users are fucked | [03:28] |
DeadWeasel | all of us | [03:28] |
DeadWeasel | and it's very difficult on here | [03:28] |
DeadWeasel | OTC is good start, poor execution and easily games, but it's children may be better. | [03:29] |
DeadWeasel | gotta see that for myself to even understand it | [03:29] |
burnside | controls in which sense? | [03:30] |
pigeons | burnside did sniff out a user transferring shares for the purpose of voting to get an asset approved and made appropriate changes to the system | [03:30] |
DeadWeasel | the whole asset thing i feel can be gamed by someone with enough cash and know-how | [03:31] |
DeadWeasel | ont he small exchanges, anyway | [03:31] |
burnside | creating the account to vote you now have to wait 7 days, not impossible, but spendy and a pita | [03:32] |
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pigeons | i assume people will go to the url in your contract to look for the other side of the story | [03:32] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [03:33] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.79028, Best ask: 29.89690, Bid-ask spread: 0.10662, Last trade: 29.79028, 24 hour volume: 35115.23774819, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.97800, 24 hour vwap: 29.68355 | [03:33] |
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burnside | I'm going to implement something that will show the public each mods vote history as well. it'll still be anon, but if patterns don't match up, then some abuse will get caught | [03:33] |
burnside | working on a way to respond to the comments too, it'll be a generic shoutbox kind of thing, but should help out. | [03:34] |
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burnside | yeah, I'm not going to be a judge at a podium determining who passes and fails. I don't think I have the necessary skills to be fair about it. | [03:36] |
burnside | I don't. I think just like GLBSE, it's going to end up being a fatal flaw in some of the other exchanges. | [03:37] |
burnside | I do however feel like a pool of people with a vested interest in the well being of the exchange will do a better job. | [03:38] |
burnside | Surely the decision to list or not list an asset on the NYSE does not come down to just one person. I need to look into it more, but I'm almost certain there's some kind of board that gets together and works things out. | [03:39] |
burnside | Of course, money talks, but you get the idea. | [03:39] |
burnside | I have the lawyer, that's why it's setup the way it is. | [03:40] |
burnside | Belize I just have to do an annual report for taxes. | [03:40] |
burnside | The rest of the reporting I'll probably be able to code into the exchange so you could pull a report automatically if you're a current shareholder. | [03:41] |
burnside | We'll need to grow significantly before we can afford auditing, but it would definitely be a good problem to have. ;) | [03:42] |
burnside | Yeah, I like that feature, very cool. | [03:42] |
burnside | I get nervous about stuff like that though. 5 BTC and a user could attach a doc with a virus in it, guaranteed to reach all of the site mods. Dangerous. | [03:43] |
burnside | Ahhh, I gotcha, that makes sense. | [03:43] |
BitHub | there's two phrases that scare the shit out of me "Hi, we're the government and we're here to help you with your business" | [03:43] |
burnside | The exchange fees for the asset issuers is a vector I hadn't considered. I'll definitely think about it. | [03:43] |
burnside | yeah, jpeg, png, pdf, they all have attack vectors unfortunately | [03:44] |
burnside | so while I love the feature, and would love to implement it, you kind of get a feel for the things I have to take into account. | [03:45] |
burnside | I need like two different versions of a command line AV scanner in place first. heh. | [03:45] |
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burnside | even that wouldnt' catch hand-crafted attacks | [03:46] |
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Bugpowder | here we go | [03:53] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [03:53] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.79041, Best ask: 29.93315, Bid-ask spread: 0.14274, Last trade: 29.79038, 24 hour volume: 38554.58576011, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.00000, 24 hour vwap: 29.71137 | [03:53] |
burnside | catch y'all later. time to clock out. | [03:54] |
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Bugpowder | ;;asks 30 | [03:56] |
gribble | There are currently 5050.5032 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 151511.635244 USD in total. | [03:56] |
Bugpowder | ;;bids 29 | [03:56] |
gribble | There are currently 7131.364 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 209361.72919 USD in total. | [03:56] |
Bowjob | We reached 30 high | [03:58] |
Bowjob | GG fuckers | [03:58] |
Bowjob | :D | [03:58] |
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Bowjob | ;;ticker | [04:01] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.89000, Best ask: 29.93314, Bid-ask spread: 0.04314, Last trade: 29.89000, 24 hour volume: 38502.76342113, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.00000, 24 hour vwap: 29.71217 | [04:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.00063705 = 7.8676 BTC [+] | [04:06] |
Bugpowder | Bowjob: How is that S.DICE price doing??? | [04:07] |
Bowjob | Profits seem to be up, that dump by erik didnt help speculators | [04:07] |
Bugpowder | what dump? | [04:07] |
Bowjob | But its no where near your 0.2 predictions | [04:07] |
Bugpowder | did he sell another million? | [04:07] |
Bowjob | i dont know, there was a recent sell of, who knows from where | [04:08] |
Bowjob | *off | [04:08] |
Bugpowder | I think he would ahve annouced it | [04:08] |
Bowjob | could be from a profiteer | [04:08] |
Namworld | Well someone selling 1+ million is not unheard of... | [04:08] |
Bugpowder | Well. The funny thing is, right when a new address shows up with some decent coin, the selloff finally starts | [04:08] |
Bowjob | It probably wont hit the 0.2 target price you're lookinh for | [04:08] |
Bugpowder | We will see | [04:08] |
Bugpowder | if more addresses come online | [04:09] |
Bugpowder | then it wont | [04:09] |
Bowjob | Maybe I'll sell just before the dividends | [04:09] |
Bowjob | but I see a few baby whales | [04:09] |
Bugpowder | It hasn't dropped after divvys last two times | [04:09] |
Bugpowder | surprisingsly | [04:09] |
Bowjob | probably down this time around | [04:09] |
pigeons | yeah i would at least take your dividends | [04:09] |
Bugpowder | Yah could be the last great month | [04:09] |
Bowjob | well.. i speculate the dividends will go down | [04:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00063705 = 5.6366 BTC [+] | [04:09] |
Bowjob | i mean the share price will go down | [04:10] |
Bowjob | after the dividends | [04:10] |
Bugpowder | Or we could just be warming up! | [04:10] |
Bowjob | so i need to sell the shares before this thing tanks.. | [04:10] |
Bowjob | or goes to the moon | [04:10] |
Bowjob | right now its looking stable condition | [04:10] |
Bowjob | pretty soon those whales will figure out they cant win.. lol | [04:11] |
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Bowjob | also it seems that bfl wont ship theirs this month | [04:11] |
pigeons | yeah because gamblers always learn | [04:11] |
Namworld | Bowjob: I'm pretty sure most already know they can't win... | [04:13] |
Bowjob | We'll still go up from 30 | [04:13] |
Namworld | and gamble for fun and to show they have lots of spare money | [04:14] |
Bowjob | Theres this dude, proudhon.. quite a bear. if he turns into a bull, we know the things gonna crash | [04:14] |
Bowjob | lol | [04:14] |
Namworld | Thing is gonna crash no matter what | [04:14] |
Bowjob | of course.. crash | [04:15] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks | [04:15] |
gribble | (asks [--over]
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Bowjob | upwards | [04:15] |
Bowjob | :) | [04:15] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks 30 | [04:15] |
gribble | There are currently 3601.3139 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 108039.417301 USD in total. | [04:15] |
Namworld | No, downward | [04:15] |
Bugpowder | I'm taking 15% off the table | [04:15] |
DeadWeasel | ;ticker | [04:15] |
Bugpowder | as soon as I get 6 confirms | [04:15] |
DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [04:15] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.91002, Best ask: 29.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08997, Last trade: 29.91000, 24 hour volume: 42286.15180078, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.00000, 24 hour vwap: 29.73967 | [04:15] |
Namworld | and wall @ 30 is breaking | [04:16] |
Bugpowder | the 30 wall is getting eaten fucking fast now that we are touching it | [04:16] |
Bugpowder | people know that once it goes, we go up a dollar | [04:16] |
Bugpowder | fast | [04:16] |
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DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [04:18] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.05000, Best ask: 30.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 30.10000, 24 hour volume: 44229.13560627, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.10000, 24 hour vwap: 29.75268 | [04:18] |
DeadWeasel | going | [04:18] |
Bugpowder | gone | [04:18] |
DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [04:18] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.05000, Best ask: 30.17900, Bid-ask spread: 0.12900, Last trade: 30.17900, 24 hour volume: 44329.13560627, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.17900, 24 hour vwap: 29.75355 | [04:18] |
DeadWeasel | fast | [04:18] |
DeadWeasel | whales fucking slingshot us over | [04:18] |
Bugpowder | time to pull my call sales | [04:19] |
Namworld | yeah | [04:19] |
DeadWeasel | um, whats a call sale? | [04:21] |
DeadWeasel | you put in a sell at a $30? | [04:21] |
DeadWeasel | ignoramus needs education | [04:21] |
Bugpowder | mpex options | [04:21] |
DeadWeasel | thx | [04:21] |
Bowjob | suppose we hit 32 | [04:21] |
Bowjob | the what | [04:21] |
Bugpowder | I was selling $25, 26 and 27s. | [04:22] |
DeadWeasel | then my investment is safe. and I'm making 1500, plus some btc left over to try to increase on lows/highs on gox | [04:23] |
DeadWeasel | get my btc back on drops | [04:23] |
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Namworld | someone buy all my PT shares. I wanna be the guy who sells at the top. | [04:25] |
Namworld | I'm holding too many shares right now. | [04:25] |
DeadWeasel | pt shares? | [04:26] |
Bugpowder | passthru/ | [04:26] |
Bugpowder | argh | [04:26] |
DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [04:26] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.20000, Best ask: 30.23000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 30.20000, 24 hour volume: 44696.56851652, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.30000, 24 hour vwap: 29.75824 | [04:26] |
DeadWeasel | going to 31 | [04:26] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,convert eur | [04:26] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 30.30000 U.S. dollars = 22.6322079 Euros | [04:26] |
Namworld | I'm selling S.DICE/S.MPOE/S.BBET on BTCT.co for those who can't pay 30 BTC for an MPEx account. | [04:27] |
DeadWeasel | thank jebus, that wall is resetting down near 31 | [04:27] |
DeadWeasel | we'll see though | [04:27] |
Bowjob | guys | [04:28] |
Bowjob | I figured it out | [04:28] |
Bowjob | .!!! | [04:28] |
Bowjob | Why the recent price surge | [04:28] |
Bowjob | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/22/dead_bear_killed_and_poached.jpg | [04:28] |
DeadWeasel | ;;asks 31.25 | [04:28] |
gribble | There are currently 4662.0557 bitcoins offered at or under 31.25 USD, worth 143761.456325 USD in total. | [04:28] |
Bowjob | :D | [04:28] |
Namworld | lol... someone bought bitcoins and killed all the bears... | [04:29] |
DeadWeasel | this is insane buying. plutocracy of whales | [04:29] |
DeadWeasel | eatne up | [04:29] |
Bugpowder | fuk u gox. I got 8 confirms | [04:30] |
Bugpowder | where is my coins | [04:30] |
DeadWeasel | me too | [04:30] |
DeadWeasel | piss me off | [04:30] |
Bugpowder | well | [04:30] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 30 | [04:31] |
gribble | There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | [04:31] |
Bugpowder | maybe this will just make me more money | [04:31] |
Bugpowder | lol | [04:31] |
Chaang-Noi | hehe | [04:31] |
DeadWeasel | ha | [04:31] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks 31 | [04:31] |
gribble | There are currently 3364.4518 bitcoins offered at or under 31.0 USD, worth 103884.668102 USD in total. | [04:31] |
DeadWeasel | awesome | [04:31] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks 32 | [04:31] |
DeadWeasel | here we go | [04:31] |
gribble | There are currently 13676.531 bitcoins offered at or under 32.0 USD, worth 431569.109649 USD in total. | [04:31] |
Bowjob | This is some historic shit going on | [04:31] |
DeadWeasel | stop before 32? | [04:32] |
Bowjob | Guys are we growing too fast?? | [04:32] |
DeadWeasel | next plateaut? | [04:32] |
DeadWeasel | ahahaha | [04:32] |
DeadWeasel | yes Bowjob | [04:32] |
DeadWeasel | but profit now, ask questions later | [04:32] |
Bowjob | LOL | [04:32] |
DeadWeasel | it may crash, we buy back | [04:32] |
Bowjob | :D | [04:32] |
Bowjob | K, sell at 32, buy back at $1? | [04:32] |
DeadWeasel | damn right, closer to 6-10, but yes | [04:32] |
Namworld | I don't think it will crash to 1 this time. | [04:33] |
Bowjob | Getting slightly nervous now | [04:33] |
Namworld | We might just go to 50 and crash to 10. | [04:33] |
Bowjob | We are going way too effing high | [04:33] |
Bowjob | Id prefer 1-2 dollars per month | [04:33] |
kakobrekla | too bad its not about what you prefer | [04:33] |
Bugpowder | I would prefer $50 tonight | [04:33] |
Bowjob | I made a bullshit prediction picture, lemme see if i can find it | [04:33] |
pigeons | http://loophole4all.com/ | [04:33] |
Bowjob | the real results are even better | [04:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 5 @ 0.58 = 2.9 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
DeadWeasel | they are good fun | [04:34] |
DeadWeasel | 3.42 K to get to 01 | [04:34] |
DeadWeasel | 31 | [04:34] |
DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [04:35] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.46999, Best ask: 30.47000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 30.46999, 24 hour volume: 45550.22658526, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.55000, 24 hour vwap: 29.77235 | [04:35] |
DeadWeasel | struggle to break 31, sell bell curve around 31.50 | [04:36] |
DeadWeasel | tiny transactoins, penny bot HAMMERING | [04:36] |
Bowjob | how come gox shows at 30.5 | [04:36] |
Bowjob | for me | [04:36] |
DeadWeasel | UP UP UP | [04:36] |
DeadWeasel | I just saw 30 buys at .10 up up up | [04:36] |
DeadWeasel | someone is jamming this thing hard | [04:37] |
Bugpowder | god | [04:37] |
Bugpowder | I lost so much money on Seal | [04:37] |
Bugpowder | seals | [04:37] |
DeadWeasel | probably let lemming fill in, then dump at 6:50AM eastern time. | [04:37] |
DeadWeasel | I've noticed that trend | [04:37] |
Bugpowder | 150BTC was not that much back when I started | [04:37] |
Bugpowder | fuck an a | [04:37] |
kakobrekla | yeah when i feel bad, i think of a pizza guy. | [04:38] |
DeadWeasel | hahaha | [04:38] |
DeadWeasel | pizza guy | [04:38] |
DeadWeasel | he did a service to us all. the first real media | [04:38] |
DeadWeasel | here's to pizza guy | [04:38] |
Bugpowder | seriously though 9 confirms | [04:38] |
Bugpowder | where are mah coins | [04:38] |
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Bugpowder | This is why its going up | [04:38] |
DeadWeasel | i'm at 5 | [04:38] |
Bugpowder | nobody can get their coins in | [04:38] |
DeadWeasel | cos nobody can get btc in | [04:38] |
Bugpowder | 30.65 | [04:39] |
kakobrekla | i have about 50 there | [04:39] |
kakobrekla | if anyone wants em | [04:39] |
Bugpowder | nah | [04:39] |
Bugpowder | I will wait | [04:39] |
Namworld | MtGox says: No one deposits/sell before we do... all sales suspended | [04:39] |
Namworld | We rich, you suck | [04:39] |
DeadWeasel | haha | [04:40] |
DeadWeasel | true that | [04:40] |
DeadWeasel | stuck on 5 txns | [04:41] |
DeadWeasel | shittles | [04:41] |
DeadWeasel | good times tonight, folks. | [04:41] |
Bugpowder | funded | [04:41] |
DeadWeasel | ;;slap Bugpowder | [04:41] |
* | gribble slaps Bugpowder with a humid gat | [04:41] |
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DeadWeasel | ;;slap truffles | [04:41] |
* | gribble slaps truffles with a out of line carafe | [04:41] |
DeadWeasel | ;;slap DeadWeasel | [04:41] |
* | gribble slaps DeadWeasel with a deep-fried manliness | [04:41] |
DeadWeasel | nice | [04:41] |
kakobrekla | stop with the unnecessary spam | [04:42] |
Bugpowder | I'm gonna kitll the rally | [04:42] |
DeadWeasel | sry | [04:42] |
DeadWeasel | ;;slap kakobrekla | [04:42] |
* | gribble slaps kakobrekla with a few six-shooter | [04:42] |
DeadWeasel | i love you man | [04:42] |
DeadWeasel | :) | [04:42] |
DeadWeasel | put in your changes to my shite website, btw | [04:43] |
DeadWeasel | good input | [04:43] |
DeadWeasel | more will be done tomorrow | [04:43] |
Namworld | BUGPOWDER, NOT YET! | [04:43] |
Namworld | WAIT TILL THERE'S A LONG THIN LINE OF BIDS! | [04:43] |
kakobrekla | THIS IS CAPS LOCK NATION | [04:44] |
Namworld | then you can sell in multiple mini increments and crash like half a USD/BTC each time | [04:44] |
Chaang-Noi | i cant load charts lol | [04:44] |
kakobrekla | wtf is up with ppl here latley, all on drugs. | [04:44] |
Bugpowder | gawd its so laggy | [04:44] |
Bugpowder | I have asks below the bid price up for 2 minutes | [04:44] |
DeadWeasel | gox is hammered | [04:44] |
Bowjob | We are going to the moon landing! | [04:44] |
Chaang-Noi | hmm, btc people now have a lot of btc... hmm what can they use them for.. drugs? :) | [04:44] |
kakobrekla | silk road became too cheap with this btc value rise | [04:44] |
kakobrekla | errybodys doing it | [04:44] |
Bowjob | You know what.. this place is full of noise!! | [04:45] |
Bowjob | The best strat.. is to buy bitcoins and forget them | [04:45] |
Chaang-Noi | silk road going to be sold out pretty damn soon | [04:45] |
Bowjob | check in 2 years and find youself a millionaire | [04:45] |
Bowjob | but Nooooooooooooo | [04:45] |
Namworld | Bowjob: except the private key, never forget that one. | [04:45] |
Bowjob | no one simply gets out of bitcoin news | [04:45] |
DeadWeasel | so, when it crashes, how to do by btc by CC? | [04:46] |
DeadWeasel | :) | [04:47] |
DeadWeasel | raised my limit just for that | [04:47] |
kakobrekla | your actions are useless | [04:47] |
kakobrekla | would assbot say. | [04:47] |
Bowjob | Man. wheres my ASIC | [04:48] |
Bowjob | lol | [04:48] |
DeadWeasel | sells went up | [04:50] |
DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [04:50] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.24001, Best ask: 30.34990, Bid-ask spread: 0.10989, Last trade: 30.24001, 24 hour volume: 46512.50490835, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.78649 | [04:50] |
DeadWeasel | got out at 30.4 | [04:51] |
kakobrekla | where is your SL ant TP? | [04:52] |
kakobrekla | and | [04:52] |
DeadWeasel | less acronyms, more info | [04:53] |
DeadWeasel | I'm a just small time douche who got in with his life savings and got out with 50% more, plus an extra 100btc to play with now | [04:53] |
Bowjob | ;;ask | [04:53] |
gribble | Error: "ask" is not a valid command. | [04:53] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [04:53] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.14601, Best ask: 30.35899, Bid-ask spread: 0.21298, Last trade: 30.35899, 24 hour volume: 46579.10632984, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.78865 | [04:53] |
Bowjob | maybe someone wants to make the price of bitcoin the same as pi | [04:54] |
Bowjob | but shift the decimal place over | [04:54] |
kakobrekla | right | [04:54] |
kakobrekla | less talk more read | [04:54] |
DeadWeasel | i need more read, no doubt | [04:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4351 @ 0.00064073 = 2.7878 BTC [+] | [04:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064112 = 2.7703 BTC [+] | [04:55] |
Bugpowder | Time to put the Tesla deposit down :) | [04:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3673 @ 0.00064113 = 2.3549 BTC [+] | [04:55] |
DeadWeasel | 3.14159265359 | [04:55] |
Bugpowder | 265358929323846264338327950288419713939937510 | [04:56] |
Bugpowder | I think.... | [04:56] |
Bowjob | how about 31.4159 | [04:56] |
DeadWeasel | damn skippy | [04:56] |
Bowjob | :) | [04:56] |
DeadWeasel | close, with decimal errros | [04:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61524 @ 0.00064113 = 39.4449 BTC [+] | [04:58] |
Bugpowder | Boom | [04:58] |
Bugpowder | out | [04:58] |
Bugpowder | done | [04:58] |
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Bugpowder | now let the rally continue | [04:58] |
Bugpowder | PLEASE | [04:58] |
Bugpowder | till tomorrow night at least | [04:58] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [04:59] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [04:59] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.10000, Best ask: 30.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09999, Last trade: 30.19999, 24 hour volume: 48532.80588620, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80061 | [04:59] |
Bowjob | Oh no!! | [04:59] |
Bowjob | We are crashing | [04:59] |
Bowjob | :/ | [04:59] |
DeadWeasel | seems dead | [04:59] |
DeadWeasel | dumped 2k in there | [05:01] |
Bugpowder | btce needs to move a wall | [05:01] |
Bowjob | I want a wall at 1000 | [05:02] |
Diablo-D3 | we need like 5 blocks right htis second | [05:03] |
kakobrekla | spam detected | [05:03] |
kakobrekla | manually | [05:03] |
Bugpowder | TESSSSSSLA | [05:04] |
Bowjob | I want a bored billionaire play around with BTC | [05:04] |
DeadWeasel | me too | [05:04] |
DeadWeasel | yes, got my btc out at 30.3 | [05:04] |
DeadWeasel | now crash | [05:04] |
Diablo-D3 | you do realize | [05:05] |
Diablo-D3 | if I sell my btc now | [05:05] |
Diablo-D3 | btc will go straight to 60 | [05:05] |
Bugpowder | it WILL GO UP | [05:05] |
Bugpowder | YES | [05:05] |
Bugpowder | SELL | [05:05] |
Bugpowder | SELL | [05:05] |
Bugpowder | SELL | [05:05] |
Diablo-D3 | when I sold a lot of them at 15 | [05:05] |
Bowjob | ah you guys are hysterical | [05:05] |
Diablo-D3 | back before the last peak | [05:05] |
Diablo-D3 | a month later it hit the historical peak | [05:06] |
assbot | terrible is what it is. | [05:06] |
Bowjob | if someone bought at 32.. then forgot about btc | [05:06] |
Bowjob | and check back now | [05:06] |
Bowjob | tjheyd be.. hmm | [05:06] |
Bowjob | nothing wrong | [05:06] |
Bowjob | lol | [05:06] |
Diablo-D3 | lol | [05:06] |
Bowjob | thats why.. we need to stop watching the markets | [05:06] |
Diablo-D3 | Im going to make some food | [05:07] |
Diablo-D3 | the send should be done by then | [05:07] |
DeadWeasel | Bugpowder: go eat, it always goes up | [05:07] |
Bugpowder | hehe | [05:07] |
Bugpowder | time to drink actually | [05:07] |
Bugpowder | We should do a vegas trip | [05:07] |
DeadWeasel | me too | [05:07] |
Diablo-D3 | but yeahh, Im going to enjoy two monitors again | [05:07] |
Diablo-D3 | my productivity will go though the roof | [05:08] |
DeadWeasel | two 24s is the shit | [05:08] |
DeadWeasel | i love it | [05:08] |
Bowjob | Now I actually want out of Dice now | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | heh | [05:08] |
DeadWeasel | me too | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | I have 3 24s | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | but | [05:08] |
DeadWeasel | NICE! | [05:08] |
Diablo-D3 | I have a 26" 1920x1200 and my dead laptop | [05:08] |
Bowjob | I have 49 shares | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | its overkill | [05:08] |
Bowjob | I mean 64 shares | [05:08] |
DeadWeasel | hhahaha | [05:08] |
Bowjob | mhm | [05:08] |
Diablo-D3 | IRC goes on the laptop so it doesnt distract me | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | yeah | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | 2 24s for matlab | [05:08] |
Bugpowder | 1 24 for laptop | [05:09] |
Bugpowder | and laptop | [05:09] |
Bugpowder | ugh | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | well Im going to buy one of those monoprice 30s | [05:09] |
Bugpowder | I am being irradiated | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | turn my 26 sideways for my mbp | [05:09] |
Bugpowder | they make monitors now? | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | and then have my 30 for my desktop | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | Bugpowder: YES | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | DUDE | [05:09] |
Bugpowder | are they high quality? | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=10235&seq=1&format=1#largeimage | [05:09] |
Diablo-D3 | thats the single dvi version | [05:10] |
Diablo-D3 | http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=113&cp_id=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=10234&seq=1&format=1#largeimage | [05:10] |
Diablo-D3 | thats the shitload of ports version | [05:10] |
Diablo-D3 | both identically same monitor | [05:10] |
Diablo-D3 | uses the same IPS as all the other 30" IPS screens | [05:10] |
Diablo-D3 | no scaler, no buffer | [05:10] |
DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [05:10] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.19898, Best ask: 30.28730, Bid-ask spread: 0.08832, Last trade: 30.19898, 24 hour volume: 48629.35769652, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80257 | [05:10] |
Bugpowder | hmmm | [05:10] |
Bugpowder | I may get one for work | [05:10] |
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kakobrekla | hm, euro dollars, better than btc i guess http://shrani.si/f/r/sY/4j1rT7UB/tmp3f19.png | [05:11] |
DeadWeasel | http://www.rakuten.com/prod/24-wide-led-monitor/229409964.html?listingId=218720436 | [05:11] |
DeadWeasel | good deal | [05:11] |
Diablo-D3 | Bugpowder: well, I would consider getting 6 | [05:12] |
Diablo-D3 | but meh | [05:12] |
Diablo-D3 | thats just a tad overkill | [05:12] |
DeadWeasel | plus you gotta mount them, good luck | [05:13] |
Bowjob | ;;ask | [05:13] |
gribble | Error: "ask" is not a valid command. | [05:13] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [05:13] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.00001, Best ask: 30.15045, Bid-ask spread: 0.15044, Last trade: 30.15045, 24 hour volume: 49645.07046157, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80740 | [05:13] |
Bowjob | Oh no! We are crashing!! | [05:13] |
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DeadWeasel | no | [05:14] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [05:15] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.04084, Best ask: 30.15543, Bid-ask spread: 0.11459, Last trade: 30.15543, 24 hour volume: 49622.64900365, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.80752 | [05:15] |
Bowjob | k nvm | [05:15] |
Bowjob | klol | [05:15] |
DeadWeasel | bids coming in | [05:15] |
DeadWeasel | need some booze, brb | [05:15] |
Bugpowder | asks coming in you mean | [05:16] |
Bowjob | why dont we get warren buffet here and ask him if btc will go up or down | [05:16] |
Diablo-D3 | warren buffet doesnt give a shit about forex | [05:16] |
Diablo-D3 | he invests in value not made up shit | [05:16] |
* | Diablo-D3 stares at wall street and scowls | [05:17] |
DeadWeasel | Diablo-D3: damn right | [05:17] |
Diablo-D3 | so, according to goxlive | [05:17] |
Diablo-D3 | it'd cost a million to go to 36 | [05:18] |
Diablo-D3 | which is only 25k btc | [05:18] |
Diablo-D3 | but to go to 26 it'd cost 40k btc, worth 1.2 million | [05:18] |
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Diablo-D3 | so I think we're still going up | [05:18] |
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Bugpowder | Deep | [05:19] |
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Bugpowder | nope | [05:20] |
Bugpowder | going down | [05:20] |
Bugpowder | u no wat wuld be so fune | [05:20] |
Bugpowder | if we crashed to 15 tonight | [05:21] |
kakobrekla | well i admit it would be funny if we crashed hard now | [05:21] |
Bugpowder | and my puts made money | [05:21] |
Bugpowder | plz | [05:21] |
Bowjob | no~ | [05:21] |
Bugpowder | somehow i doubt it | [05:21] |
Bowjob | we are going to the moon | [05:21] |
Bugpowder | so when do you start buying again/ | [05:22] |
Bugpowder | 25 | [05:22] |
DeadWeasel | someone big is still manipulating, possibly others too | [05:22] |
Bugpowder | 20? 15? | [05:22] |
Bugpowder | manipulating? | [05:22] |
Bugpowder | do you mean trying to sell shares? | [05:22] |
Bugpowder | err coins? | [05:22] |
Bowjob | buying single digits!! | [05:22] |
DeadWeasel | i mean manipulating. pump dump. then settle the price for a while, pump dump, settle the price. using bots, and everything else illegal in SEC markets | [05:22] |
Bugpowder | lol | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | ugh. | [05:23] |
Bugpowder | none of that is illegal | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | you know, that makes absolutely no sense. | [05:23] |
Bugpowder | 2) markets do not need that to display their dynamics | [05:23] |
DeadWeasel | mircea_popescu: it makes perfect sense. | [05:23] |
Bowjob | Yes a dead bear! | [05:23] |
kakobrekla | mircea_popescu nothign here does anymore :( | [05:23] |
DeadWeasel | kakobrekla: ever more correct you are | [05:24] |
DeadWeasel | i just have theories | [05:24] |
DeadWeasel | just like the rest of you | [05:24] |
DeadWeasel | twats | [05:24] |
* | DeadWeasel is a twat | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | DeadWeasel listen. the theory whereby it is feasible to buy up a commodity in order to sell it later is nonsense. | [05:24] |
kakobrekla | spam detected, manually. | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | you will spend more "fixing" the price than you'll make selling. | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | people keep trying. people always fail. | [05:24] |
DeadWeasel | proof? | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | most recently the notable silver market cornering, read up on that. it wasted a billion dollar fortune | [05:25] |
DeadWeasel | your opinion? | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | sigh. | [05:25] |
DeadWeasel | just saying | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google "the hunt brothers" | [05:25] |
gribble | Nelson Bunker Hunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: |
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mircea_popescu | seriously, this is basic stuff. | [05:25] |
Bugpowder | OP delivers | [05:25] |
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DeadWeasel | again, I just have opinions, and I've stated before, they are largely uneducated | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | "only new thing in this world is the history you didn't know". | [05:26] |
DeadWeasel | so quit yer bitchin | [05:26] |
DeadWeasel | got a problem with an uneducated twat, it's your problem. I'd love to be educated,but ya'll don't know shit more about this than anyone else. | [05:27] |
DeadWeasel | guessing at this market is bullshit | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | so read up on the stuff! | [05:27] |
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DeadWeasel | the stuff. how could forget. who's stuff' | [05:28] |
DeadWeasel | your stuff? | [05:28] |
DeadWeasel | usagi's stuff? | [05:28] |
DeadWeasel | pirates stuff? | [05:28] |
DeadWeasel | jesus' stuff? | [05:28] |
Bugpowder | I would start with MPs | [05:29] |
Bugpowder | and then just stop | [05:29] |
Bugpowder | LOL | [05:29] |
Bugpowder | YES | [05:29] |
DeadWeasel | MPs stuff is shite | [05:29] |
DeadWeasel | no offense,but you write crap | [05:29] |
Bugpowder | ok read wikipedia | [05:29] |
DeadWeasel | wiki, i can work with that, but none of it applies to BTC | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | dude, srsly. the hunt brothers and their silvery misadventure. | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck none of it applies to btc. what is btc, a meteorite ? | [05:29] |
kakobrekla | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorite | [05:30] |
DeadWeasel | thanks kakobrekla | [05:30] |
Bugpowder | meteorits fall to earth | [05:30] |
DeadWeasel | meteors do not | [05:30] |
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DeadWeasel | you should know, it's your business | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | well anyway, this entire "someone is mainipulating by buying to inflate the price to sell later" stuff is the economic equivalent of the perpetuum mobile machine. | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | you can't pull yourself up by your britches. | [05:32] |
DeadWeasel | no, but you can manipulate, or the SEC wouldn't exist for legit markets | [05:33] |
DeadWeasel | haha, usagi, you were there | [05:33] |
DeadWeasel | when jesus was born | [05:33] |
Bugpowder | what do you think HFT does all day long? | [05:33] |
DeadWeasel | you took his gold, silver, and myrhh | [05:33] |
DeadWeasel | i know, now i have to sacrifice my child. | [05:33] |
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mircea_popescu | yes well, the sec isn't there to do what you think it does i'm affraid. | [05:34] |
DeadWeasel | it used to be. | [05:34] |
DeadWeasel | not anyomore. | [05:34] |
DeadWeasel | but the priciple applies | [05:35] |
DeadWeasel | all the institutions have be co=opted by twats | [05:35] |
DeadWeasel | that's why i like the blockchain | [05:35] |
DeadWeasel | ain't no co-opting of that | [05:35] |
Bugpowder | http://images.uncyc.org/en/3/3e/LeeWall_Destroy.gif | [05:35] |
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mircea_popescu | ok, ok, but natural laws still apply. | [05:36] |
DeadWeasel | can't argue with that | [05:36] |
DeadWeasel | because we don't want to | [05:37] |
DeadWeasel | the world, as it is, in terms of society and politics and industry is dying | [05:37] |
DeadWeasel | renewal comes soon, unless free energy intervenes. | [05:38] |
BitHub | my penis is dying over this conversation | [05:38] |
Bugpowder | time to tip clark moody | [05:38] |
DeadWeasel | then I'm going to bed. gotta put up a few more buys for when it crashes. | [05:38] |
Bugpowder | seriously | [05:38] |
Bugpowder | what tha fuck would we do without that site | [05:38] |
Bowjob | its Pump and dont dump | [05:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60 @ 0.00063705 = 0.0382 BTC [-] | [05:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4085 @ 0.00063402 = 2.59 BTC [-] | [05:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063293 = 2.7349 BTC [-] | [05:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00063292 = 8.1014 BTC [-] | [05:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9784 @ 0.00063154 = 6.179 BTC [-] | [05:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063187 = 2.7303 BTC [+] | [06:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7279 @ 0.00063154 = 4.597 BTC [-] | [06:01] |
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novusordo | nah | [06:16] |
novusordo | we'll build a distributed decentralized society | [06:17] |
novusordo | where we mine for our libraries and hospitals | [06:17] |
novusordo | early adopters get more knowledge and better medical treatment | [06:17] |
novusordo | yes, of society | [06:18] |
Namworld | It's more of a problem that being altruistic tends to get you 10 leeches stuck on you... | [06:18] |
Namworld | If there's no group in power to make rules/exclude, for one person building stuff for the community, 10 will smooch off of that work without contributing. | [06:19] |
Namworld | Like people who just love working... | [06:20] |
Namworld | workaholics | [06:20] |
Bugpowder | the goal is to become a power broker | [06:20] |
Bugpowder | looking forward to being one! | [06:20] |
Bowjob | Actually I think we are the early adopters | [06:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064104 = 2.7699 BTC [+] | [06:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10674 @ 0.00064113 = 6.8434 BTC [+] | [06:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5525 @ 0.00064222 = 3.5483 BTC [+] | [06:21] |
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Bowjob | anyone here watched Code Geass? | [06:27] |
Bowjob | I just realized something | [06:27] |
Diablo-D3 | meh | [06:27] |
Diablo-D3 | I was going to | [06:27] |
Diablo-D3 | then I realized how retarded it was | [06:27] |
Diablo-D3 | and Im the guy that likes giant robots | [06:28] |
Bowjob | C.C. Loved pizza | [06:28] |
Bowjob | and C.C. was helping lelouch with his rebellion | [06:28] |
Bowjob | Bitcoins, are designed as a fuck you to the feds, in short a rebellion to the feds | [06:28] |
Bowjob | and bitcoiners love pizza | [06:28] |
Bowjob | so much that hey paid 10,000 BTC for 2 pizzas | [06:28] |
Bowjob | Bitcoin = Code Geass rebellion!! | [06:29] |
Bowjob | Satoshi = zero!! | [06:29] |
Bowjob | http://satoshidice.com/ | [06:29] |
Bowjob | the chick is CC | [06:29] |
Bowjob | with her green hair | [06:29] |
Bowjob | it all makes sense now | [06:29] |
Bowjob | In the end we see Satoshi sacking himself for the good of everyone | [06:29] |
Bowjob | but not after crazy shit happens | [06:30] |
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Bowjob | ASICs are like the new mainframes | [06:31] |
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Bowjob | Oh, and it just happened that http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Avalon | [06:32] |
Bowjob | !!! | [06:32] |
Bowjob | Fuck I knew it | [06:32] |
Bowjob | this thing is a whole setup | [06:32] |
Bowjob | Yes! | [06:32] |
Bowjob | Avalon is | [06:32] |
BitHub | is that what i preordered? | [06:33] |
Bowjob | All hail zero!! | [06:33] |
Bowjob | Yes! | [06:33] |
BitHub | scammers | [06:33] |
Bowjob | IT does !! | [06:33] |
Bowjob | Right?? | [06:33] |
Bowjob | Desho? | [06:33] |
Bowjob | BFL are those eunuchs.. who didnt deliver shit | [06:34] |
Bowjob | wait thats bASIC | [06:34] |
Bowjob | We need an ASIC company named Freja.. that'd be awesome | [06:34] |
Bowjob | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bernanke | [06:36] |
Bowjob | that's charles | [06:37] |
Bowjob | one of his children is satoshi | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [06:37] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.04001, Best ask: 30.16900, Bid-ask spread: 0.12899, Last trade: 30.04001, 24 hour volume: 51240.83998307, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 30.65000, 24 hour vwap: 29.82270 | [06:37] |
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Bowjob | Omg.. and another thing | [06:38] |
Bowjob | one of the FGPAs of Avalon | [06:38] |
Bowjob | is called Lancelot | [06:38] |
Bowjob | O_O | [06:38] |
Bowjob | Yifu = Suzaku??? | [06:38] |
Bowjob | I bet someone with Geass here keep telling people to buy buy buy | [06:39] |
Bowjob | It sucks that I can't really watch anime | [06:40] |
Bowjob | coz of bitcoin | [06:40] |
Bowjob | fuck | [06:40] |
Bowjob | my priorites are backward | [06:40] |
Bowjob | lol | [06:40] |
Bowjob | usagi, watched hxh? | [06:41] |
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DeadWeasel | apparently, Bowjob -- you've been right every time you said that so far | [13:37] |
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DeadWeasel | anybody use yubikeys? | [14:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064242 = 2.7759 BTC [+] | [14:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064251 = 10.2802 BTC [+] | [14:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4929 @ 0.00064252 = 3.167 BTC [+] | [14:01] |
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thestringpuller | !ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR | [14:14] |
assbot | [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC) | [14:14] |
thestringpuller | why the fuck is no one buying IDIFF? | [14:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064161 = 2.7724 BTC [-] | [14:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12579 @ 0.00064196 = 8.0752 BTC [+] | [14:17] |
BitHub | whats your favasset exchange? | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller that's a mystery for the ages. | [14:26] |
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gribble | 885 | [14:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-] | [14:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00063914 = 10.2262 BTC [-] | [14:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6251 @ 0.00063913 = 3.9952 BTC [-] | [14:39] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [15:11] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222530 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1245 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 16 hours, 26 minutes, and 40 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [15:11] |
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jurov | ohh the other futures were discontinued? MUST FIX | [15:27] |
error4733 | +3000 BTC profit for the last 1000 bet (2days) 2500 above EV ! | [15:29] |
error4733 | S.Dice run good ! | [15:29] |
DeadWeas1l | http://uncrunched.com/2013/02/21/the-department-of-homeland-security-stole-my-boat-today/ | [15:31] |
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DeadWeasel | fingerling potatoes? | [15:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1531 @ 0.00587398 = 8.9931 BTC [+] | [15:35] |
DeadWeasel | yeah, he'll get it back, I just hope it gets out there in the media more. | [15:36] |
DeadWeasel | so people are more wary. | [15:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00598363 = 2.9918 BTC [+] | [15:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0060899 = 1.827 BTC [+] | [15:36] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [15:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [15:50] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222536 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1239 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 13 hours, 19 minutes, and 1 second | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [15:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @ 0.0873 = 0.1746 BTC [-] | [15:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [15:52] |
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mjr__ | ;;ticker | [16:07] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.61955, Best ask: 30.76200, Bid-ask spread: 0.14245, Last trade: 30.76200, 24 hour volume: 55152.61716662, 24 hour low: 29.42000, 24 hour high: 30.76200, 24 hour vwap: 30.03966 | [16:07] |
DeadWeasel | ;;bc,24hprc | [16:12] |
gribble | 30.06 | [16:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.008 = 0.016 BTC [+] | [16:13] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;asks 31.99 | [16:33] |
gribble | There are currently 7044.8875 bitcoins offered at or under 31.99 USD, worth 221886.66444 USD in total. | [16:33] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [16:34] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222545 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1230 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 12 hours, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3191474.41456 | Estimated Percent Change: -12.58657 | [16:34] |
ThickAsThieves | why do the stats dip like that this time of day? | [16:34] |
Bugpowder | weird | [16:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00609 = 30.45 BTC [+] | [16:36] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.68010003 = 3.4005 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.6801 = 6.1209 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.675 = 3.375 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.674 = 1.348 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.665 = 3.99 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.637 = 2.548 BTC [-] | [16:37] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [16:37] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.77586, Best ask: 30.79999, Bid-ask spread: 0.02413, Last trade: 30.77586, 24 hour volume: 53263.39730356, 24 hour low: 29.42000, 24 hour high: 30.84000, 24 hour vwap: 30.07494 | [16:37] |
mircea_popescu | sweet. | [16:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00609 = 30.45 BTC [+] | [16:38] |
Bugpowder | large ask on S.DICE up | [16:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 31 @ 0.637 = 19.747 BTC [-] | [16:39] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 19 @ 0.62151 = 11.8087 BTC [-] | [16:39] |
topace | DING DING DING -- Havelock now has 1,000,000 shares | [16:39] |
Bugpowder | Thats a lot of coins | [16:39] |
ThickAsThieves | http://bitbet.us/bet/255/s-dice-profit-falls-in-february/ | [16:40] |
topace | Market Cap ฿6215.1000 (~$188006.78) | [16:40] |
topace | indeed | [16:40] |
mircea_popescu | well done | [16:41] |
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mircea_popescu | who knew running PTs can be that lucrative, there's what, like 4-5 btc on the spread right there ? | [16:41] |
pigeons | plus th 5% dividend rake | [16:42] |
topace | indeed | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu | honest money at least. | [16:43] |
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error4733 | @thickAsThieves : in BTC or $ ? | [16:51] |
ThickAsThieves | ? | [16:51] |
error4733 | if you look in $, pretty same result, no free fall. 395K to 360k still one week | [16:51] |
error4733 | s.dice profit | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | s.dice doesnt deal in USD | [16:52] |
error4733 | :/ | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | bet is in "bitcoin" category after all | [16:53] |
error4733 | yep easy bet if you not correct with the btc rise | [16:53] |
ThickAsThieves | anything can happen in the next week though | [16:53] |
ThickAsThieves | whale can spend 10k | [16:53] |
error4733 | at 30$ ? :/ | [16:55] |
Bugpowder | no he can't | [16:55] |
Bugpowder | check the address balances. | [16:55] |
error4733 | he is dry ? | [16:55] |
Bugpowder | Has had 3k left since Feb 4th | [16:55] |
error4733 | no way he blow up ALL his coin... | [16:55] |
Bugpowder | out of 40k | [16:56] |
ThickAsThieves | doesnt mean it's all he has | [16:56] |
Bugpowder | there is a new address though | [16:56] |
ThickAsThieves | and that there aren't other whales | [16:56] |
error4733 | yep it's the S.dice wallet :) | [16:56] |
Bugpowder | that has about 3-4k too | [16:56] |
Bugpowder | so that person could drive the profits | [16:56] |
Bugpowder | http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1Hz5FxwF5XYk1Emqf43Q2Vo5uUzqb7BhtM | [16:57] |
Bugpowder | oops he is out too | [16:57] |
ThickAsThieves | only need about 720 or so BTC profit per day to break the bet | [16:57] |
Bugpowder | did he lose it all yesterday?? | [16:57] |
ThickAsThieves | no profit yesterday i think | [16:57] |
ThickAsThieves | but it's been nearly a day since doog's last report | [16:59] |
ThickAsThieves | well, not nearly, but plenty of time for a whale to lose his btc | [17:00] |
error4733 | nothing big today | [17:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.0021 = 0.021 BTC [-] | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | how's the small bets ? | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | prolly a better long term indicator i'd guess | [17:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 90 @ 0.0021 = 0.189 BTC [-] | [17:02] |
error4733 | oups my bad, +2K since last dooglu update | [17:02] |
error4733 | i monitore only +4 bet | [17:03] |
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error4733 | Haha last 470 bet on s.dice : EV = 188 Result : 2134... 2K above EV. Please, a nice final week like in january | [17:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006418 = 2.7732 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10421 @ 0.00064196 = 6.6899 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 258 @ 0.00064252 = 0.1658 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
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mircea_popescu | error4733 you know one of these days its going to go well under ev. | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | it has to. | [17:14] |
Ukto | BitFunder is now trading backed AUD/USD/CAD. https://bitfunder.com/asset/FIAT.USD for example. | [17:15] |
Ukto | Have a nice day., | [17:15] |
error4733 | not with small bet | [17:15] |
error4733 | you can't beat house edge on long term | [17:16] |
error4733 | obv with 3 whales & a bad run... it's possible | [17:17] |
mircea_popescu | listen, you can't beat house edge on INFINITE term. | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | it's possible to beat it on a term of any arbitrary finite length | [17:19] |
error4733 | sure, but more small bet mean you reduce variance i'm a math genius, i know | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [17:22] |
jurov | hi Ukto, what's your plan with FIAT.USD? you will offer the shares yourself? | [17:26] |
Ukto | I dont offer the shares | [17:28] |
Ukto | you do | [17:28] |
Ukto | or rather, any user | [17:28] |
Ukto | any user can deposit their USD from weex into bitfunder | [17:28] |
Ukto | which are auto converted to 1 share FIAT.USD per $1 USD | [17:28] |
jurov | what's the advantage over buying bitcoins directly? | [17:29] |
Ukto | this is buying fiats | [17:29] |
Ukto | with bitcoins | [17:29] |
Ukto | not buying bitcoins | [17:29] |
Ukto | :P | [17:29] |
Ukto | these basicaly make a reverse market | [17:29] |
Ukto | withdrawing any number of shares of FIAT.USD (or other currencies) to WeExchange automatically converts X shares to X dollars of that currency | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | so basically like an exchange. | [17:31] |
Ukto | yes, its a reverse exchange | [17:31] |
Ukto | for those assets | [17:31] |
mjr__ | guys! only $969 to go :) | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | ok, so you're merging bitfunder and what was it called, uex ? | [17:31] |
Ukto | weex | [17:31] |
Ukto | and not merging | [17:31] |
mjr__ | lol jk | [17:31] |
Ukto | :P | [17:31] |
Ukto | BF is just taking more advantage of the merchant system offered by weex | [17:32] |
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jurov | i mean, selling FIAT.USD is fully equivalent to buying bitcoins, no? | [17:32] |
Ukto | sure. You can look at it from that point of view. | [17:33] |
Ukto | You could also say buying FIAT.USD is selling bitcoins. | [17:33] |
Ukto | But in fact, you are buying USD with btc. | [17:33] |
Ukto | If you follow the terminology. | [17:33] |
Ukto | :D | [17:34] |
Ukto | Either way, someone asked for it, i said sure why not, and did it. | [17:34] |
ThickAsThieves | so it's an exchange on exchange | [17:34] |
Ukto | No... it's an exchange. | [17:34] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [17:34] |
Ukto | No one said it could only be 'assets' | [17:34] |
Ukto | and the currencies ARE assets in this form | [17:35] |
ThickAsThieves | will you also make it possible to buy shares of any stock with USD? | [17:35] |
Ukto | they DO have a name.. its not liek they are done to the cent | [17:35] |
Ukto | No | [17:35] |
Ukto | You cannot buy shares of an asset, with shares from another asset | [17:35] |
ThickAsThieves | why not just support USD within BF? | [17:35] |
ThickAsThieves | directly | [17:35] |
Ukto | Legal reasons. | [17:36] |
ThickAsThieves | word | [17:36] |
Ukto | also, BitFunder is not there to support USD, etc | [17:36] |
Ukto | it is there to support BTC. | [17:36] |
BitHub | word fiat scares me | [17:37] |
Ukto | If asked "What do you do with mined bitcoins?" 'I can BUY USD with it.' | [17:37] |
Ukto | That is an accurate statement. | [17:37] |
Ukto | Rather than the previous limitation of 'I can SELL it for USD' | [17:37] |
ThickAsThieves | seems like a thin court defense, but i know nothing of the laws | [17:38] |
Ukto | defense for what? | [17:38] |
Ukto | and what court? | [17:39] |
ThickAsThieves | well you said not supporting USD for legal reasons | [17:39] |
ThickAsThieves | but this isnt much different | [17:39] |
Ukto | Correct. | [17:39] |
ThickAsThieves | like i said, i'm no lawyer | [17:39] |
ThickAsThieves | but it's effectively the same | [17:39] |
Ukto | You misunderstand. | [17:39] |
Ukto | BitFunder will not let you hold USD as an eWallet. | [17:39] |
Ukto | to use/spend as you please | [17:39] |
Ukto | you do not have USD in your account on BF | [17:40] |
ThickAsThieves | but 1 FIATUSD = $1 constantly | [17:40] |
Ukto | you have shares that may be traded out for USD by another entity | [17:40] |
Ukto | yes | [17:40] |
Ukto | we are not breaking any eWallet laws | [17:40] |
Ukto | you cant spend FIATUSD can you? | [17:40] |
ThickAsThieves | although i suppose i could sell 1 FIATUSD for more or less than $1 worth of BTC | [17:41] |
Ukto | the market can valuate the usd aginst the BTC however it wants | [17:41] |
Ukto | as it does currently. | [17:41] |
ThickAsThieves | word | [17:41] |
Ukto | My comment about legal reasons, was ment to be very broad, not specific. :) | [17:41] |
ThickAsThieves | is this the only asset exchange that has somethng like this? | [17:42] |
BitHub | so if i have a few g's in a certain currency can i float it as an asset onbf? | [17:42] |
Ukto | Yes. | [17:42] |
BitHub | of | [17:42] |
Ukto | BitHub: you could try. | [17:42] |
Ukto | I wont stop you | [17:42] |
BitHub | is this kind of what this is? i've been following but a bit lost | [17:42] |
Ukto | The diffrence is that people can instantly exchange the FIAT.*'s for real currency via BF/Weex | [17:42] |
Ukto | for example, on BF, if you goto the transactions page | [17:43] |
BitHub | ahh okey so instead of sending btc back to weex i can send these fiat.usd or buy em and it'll instantly show up as fiat on weex | [17:43] |
Ukto | you will see you can withdraw AUD,CAD,USD shares | [17:43] |
Ukto | yes | [17:43] |
Ukto | you can deposit 'shares' from weex of any currency, or withdraw them | [17:44] |
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BitHub | cool | [17:44] |
BitHub | only these shares or all the ones on bf? | [17:44] |
Ukto | yes. | [17:44] |
Ukto | for example, if you have 10 AUD in weex | [17:45] |
Ukto | you can deposit it into BF for 10 FIAT.AUD shares | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,convert eur | [17:45] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 31.29999 U.S. dollars = 23.6941635 Euros | [17:45] |
Ukto | you can then place them for sale at whatever rate per AUD you want. | [17:45] |
Ukto | if I buy those 10, I can choose to withdraw them to weex, and have 10 AUD in weex. | [17:45] |
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BitHub | nice | [17:45] |
BitHub | so when you going to hit up all the countries that have a closed exchanged? :P | [17:46] |
BitHub | that would be pretty amazing | [17:46] |
Ukto | now think about that, with the big project for BF I am working in. ;) | [17:46] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063925 = 2.7622 BTC [-] | [17:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 271 @ 0.00063913 = 0.1732 BTC [-] | [17:46] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [17:47] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222554 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1221 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 40 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [17:47] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00979 BTC [+] | [17:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064239 = 2.7758 BTC [+] | [18:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36350 @ 0.00064252 = 23.3556 BTC [+] | [18:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13122 @ 0.00064286 = 8.4356 BTC [+] | [18:00] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;asks 31.99 | [18:03] |
gribble | There are currently 5754.009 bitcoins offered at or under 31.99 USD, worth 181961.646777 USD in total. | [18:03] |
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Ukto | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=146009.0 | [18:07] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/21/online-poker-bill-moves-forward-nevada-legislature/ | [18:21] |
mircea_popescu | pretty cool. | [18:24] |
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kakobrekla | if its legal no need to use btc | [18:25] |
kakobrekla | just stick with dat stupid dollars | [18:25] |
ThickAsThieves | a job for mpoe-pr? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145919.0 | [18:27] |
Ukto | fucking retarded government | [18:27] |
Ukto | make it illegal | [18:27] |
Ukto | wipe out the competition | [18:27] |
Ukto | and then make it legal again for the big boys | [18:27] |
BitHub | that's how its always been | [18:28] |
Ukto | I know. just shadey. | [18:28] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto yep exactly. | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063915 = 2.7618 BTC [-] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14179 @ 0.00063913 = 9.0622 BTC [-] | [18:29] |
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mircea_popescu | big boys can be bothered to jump through all the hoops to bribe you | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | small timers couldn't do it anyway. | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves why ? | [18:29] |
ThickAsThieves | nvm, i just started reading when i linked | [18:30] |
ThickAsThieves | mpoe-pr is a "skidmark" hehe | [18:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.686 = 5.488 BTC [+] | [18:31] |
kakobrekla | sadly there are just 2 places in this whole economy where one can make any serious coin | [18:32] |
kakobrekla | just had a short discussion over this | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves ya well, one doesn't need five cents to have an opinion, | [18:38] |
mircea_popescu | beauty of the interwebs. | [18:38] |
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pigeons | ukto i'll scroll up and read about FIAT, but what's up with https://bitfunder.com/asset/ASIC.COOP and https://bitfunder.com/asset/Biz27B-6 | [18:56] |
Ukto | what about them? | [18:56] |
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pigeons | who are they? | [18:57] |
Ukto | ASIC.COOP is ciuciu it was a prev glbse asset | [18:57] |
pigeons | that guy's a nut! | [18:57] |
* | Ukto shrugs, he wanted to relist, and make his shares available to his issuers | [18:57] |
Ukto | I am just here to help | [18:58] |
pigeons | well, i guess when mircea_popescu is the standard, being nuts isn't a disqualifier | [18:58] |
kakobrekla | reglbsed. | [18:58] |
mircea_popescu | i am nuts now ?! | [18:58] |
pigeons | you're not? | [18:58] |
Ukto | .. havent you always been? | [18:58] |
Ukto | ;) | [18:58] |
pigeons | not that there's anything wrong with it... | [18:58] |
pigeons | what about the super secret "we can't stop you from buyinf our secret not-for-you shares?" | [18:59] |
Ukto | dont ask me | [18:59] |
Ukto | i told him he needs to specify stuff | [18:59] |
Ukto | or ppl will ignore it | [18:59] |
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Ukto | he does supposedly have something to back it | [19:00] |
Ukto | hes just too scared to talk abou tit | [19:00] |
Ukto | afraid of legal issues | [19:00] |
mod6 | wat | [19:01] |
Ukto | yeah, I rolled my eyes, said w/e | [19:01] |
mod6 | how's it goin -assets? | [19:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064293 = 3.2147 BTC [+] | [19:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064294 = 2.7781 BTC [+] | [19:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1733 @ 0.00064311 = 1.1145 BTC [+] | [19:01] |
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jurov | this is true nut: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101771.msg1407323#msg1407323 | [19:03] |
jurov | not our mircea | [19:03] |
Ukto | honestly | [19:03] |
Ukto | I think were all nuts | [19:03] |
Ukto | heh | [19:03] |
Ukto | bitcoin... pfft | [19:03] |
jurov | In 2009 I was beaten nearly to death by a man with a tire Iron and have not been able to maintain a normal job sence which is why I fell inlove with bitcoins so much | [19:03] |
mircea_popescu | ?! | [19:04] |
jurov | just an excerpt from said url | [19:04] |
mod6 | that guy is on beat-down status | [19:04] |
mod6 | car accident and got beat with a tire iron!? | [19:04] |
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mod6 | that sux | [19:04] |
pigeons | crazy stuff | [19:06] |
jurov | so, there are not yet relisted cases n the scene, ukto beware :D | [19:06] |
Ukto | .. what? | [19:07] |
jurov | the MMM above | [19:08] |
Ukto | mmm? | [19:08] |
jurov | the thread is about mmm glbse stuff | [19:09] |
jurov | issued by a man with 15day migraines :( | [19:11] |
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jurov | ;;ticker | [19:29] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 31.11001, Best ask: 31.14856, Bid-ask spread: 0.03855, Last trade: 31.09901, 24 hour volume: 56442.79364155, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.27998 | [19:29] |
jurov | ;;bc,convert eur | [19:29] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 31.09901 U.S. dollars = 23.5242133 Euros | [19:29] |
jurov | mpoe results will be very interesting | [19:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006431 = 2.7788 BTC [-] | [19:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3267 @ 0.00064311 = 2.101 BTC [+] | [19:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00064312 = 10.2899 BTC [+] | [19:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3912 @ 0.00064314 = 2.516 BTC [+] | [19:31] |
jurov | mircea_popescu, you said maybe you'll do the report tomorrow morning instead of in the night, have you decided? | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | iirc what i said was that i'll publish the report and then wait a day for any errors / complaints before making payments | [19:32] |
jurov | ah so! | [19:35] |
jurov | Please include the vwap used into the report. | [19:35] |
jurov | especially now it's changing wildly | [19:36] |
jurov | ;;bc,24hprc | [19:36] |
gribble | 30.27 | [19:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 25 @ 0.3499 = 8.7475 BTC [-] | [19:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.35 = 0.7 BTC [+] | [19:37] |
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jurov | ;;bc,24hprc | [19:39] |
gribble | 30.27 | [19:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00063937 = 1.5345 BTC [-] | [19:39] |
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mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/ | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | i should probably start selling my own brand of napalm | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | for customer support | [19:58] |
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jurov | well,everyone has something to get angry over | [20:09] |
jurov | btw, i came up with better analogy with the NAT problem... it's like telephone from which you can make outgoing calls only | [20:10] |
mod6 | i like this: | [20:10] |
mod6 | The reason I take the time to type out a response like that is because I enjoy treating people I don’t know like they’re actual human beings, take them seriously and so forth. | [20:10] |
jurov | just because phone company depleted all numbers can't/doesn't | [20:10] |
mod6 | ^^^ | [20:10] |
jurov | can't/doesn't make phone numbers longer | [20:11] |
mod6 | the "investment" statment was a bit bizzare | [20:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.27 = 0.81 BTC [-] | [20:11] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.26392 BTC [-] | [20:11] |
mod6 | ugh, have been sick as hell the last 2 weeks. :/ | [20:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00063937 = 1.6624 BTC [-] | [20:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063936 = 2.7627 BTC [-] | [20:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4179 @ 0.00063926 = 2.6715 BTC [-] | [20:18] |
mod6 | starting to feel better today thouhg. | [20:18] |
mod6 | *though | [20:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064301 = 2.7784 BTC [+] | [20:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3679 @ 0.00064314 = 2.3661 BTC [+] | [20:19] |
mod6 | !ticker m s.mpoe | [20:20] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062729 / 0.00063605 / 0.00064314 (1284428 shares, 816.97 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064942 / 0.00068894 (10515301 shares, 6,828.92 BTC), 30D: 0.00059517 / 0.00066478 / 0.0007 (72318162 shares, 48,076.07 BTC) | [20:20] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00591 = 0.591 BTC [-] | [20:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 740 @ 0.0059 = 4.366 BTC [-] | [20:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00589 = 0.0589 BTC [-] | [20:32] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 25 @ 0.00588 = 0.147 BTC [-] | [20:32] |
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mod6 | so is ripple dead yet? | [20:34] |
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pigeons | well the new system operaters are trying to discourage calling trust lines "credit" I noticed | [20:38] |
mod6 | ahh. ok. i was wondering how (or why) a system of credit would need to be established... | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | [20:39] | |
swhitt | anyone know how to contact evoorhees? | [20:39] |
swhitt | someone just successfully pulled off a doublespend attack on sdice | [20:39] |
iz | you can also answer a ringing phone | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | he idles here sometimes swhitt | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | hm, link ? | [20:39] |
iz | a ringing phone with NAT would require port forwards | [20:39] |
swhitt | I was playing, this was my original losing bet | [20:40] |
swhitt | https://blockchain.info/tx-index/55341372 | [20:40] |
swhitt | 258 bytes | [20:40] |
jurov | oh, mircea_popescu doesn't need to answer phones, he's got people for that | [20:40] |
swhitt | then a new block came in with a txn not in the mempool | [20:40] |
swhitt | https://blockchain.info/tx/3947b301d36aecb53fc0c060b7815db1b426cc71dae9e2dcb2a0064bce818cd1 | [20:40] |
iz | haha | [20:40] |
swhitt | same inputs and outputs but 1 additional byte, I believe OP_FALSE | [20:40] |
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swhitt | which doesn't need to be signed | [20:40] |
mircea_popescu | jurov literally. what am i to answer a phone !? "don't call us, we'll call you to an artform" | [20:40] |
swhitt | so the txid changed | [20:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 185 @ 0.006 = 1.11 BTC [-] | [20:41] |
jcpham | hello mircea_popescu | [20:41] |
mircea_popescu | swhitt did s.dice pay both ? | [20:41] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham heya jcpham! | [20:41] |
swhitt | mircea_popescu: yes | [20:41] |
swhitt | it payed my original losing bet | [20:41] |
swhitt | and then it paid the attacked confirmed bet | [20:42] |
mod6 | I saw something on btctalk about some new ways to try to exploit double-spends against s.dice. not sure if its effective... | [20:42] |
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maximian | evoorhees says that they do suffer double-spends from time to time | [20:42] |
mod6 | maybe it was yesterday... | [20:42] |
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swhitt | it looked like the doublespend attack person is working with a miner | [20:42] |
maximian | and that they implement fixes accordingly | [20:42] |
swhitt | the attack bets were not in my mempool | [20:43] |
swhitt | but they showed up in a block | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | swhitt i sent him a dinger. | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | thanks for reporting. | [20:43] |
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swhitt | mircea_popescu: thanks, I am making a list of transactions included in the attack | [20:43] |
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maximian | he's sometimes available on Skype as evoorhees | [20:44] |
mod6 | DeaDTerra: what do you mean by "SatoshiDice client"? | [20:44] |
mod6 | OH... ok. didn't know that. | [20:45] |
mod6 | thx | [20:45] |
swhitt | the client doens't let you spend unconfirmed change though | [20:45] |
pigeons | mircea_popescu: nat is like asking someone else to take a piss for you | [20:45] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [20:45] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons yeah. | [20:45] |
mod6 | you guys no like NAT 'eh? | [20:45] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222573 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1202 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 10 hours, 4 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [20:45] |
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mircea_popescu | they no like nat. | [20:47] |
mircea_popescu | i like nat, but they say i'm a nut. | [20:48] |
mod6 | ;;calc 3651011/4036526 | [20:48] |
gribble | 0.904493368803 | [20:48] |
mod6 | so ~9% change up | [20:48] |
ThickAsThieves | was like 15%-20% yesterday I think | [20:49] |
mod6 | (10:48) < mircea_popescu> i like nat, but they say i'm a nut. << for someone who isn't a programmer, you have a keen eye for what makes sense in compsci | [20:49] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 im the boss all software engineers wish they had. | [20:49] |
mod6 | :] | [20:49] |
mod6 | one thing that makes me laugh is about these -otc d00dz who constantly bitch about MPEx's lack of CSS or conformity to standards. | [20:50] |
mod6 | its like, many lulz | [20:50] |
jurov | just a convenient topic to bitch about | [20:50] |
mod6 | ThickAsThieves: the diffiulty went up that much or just the btc spot price? | [20:50] |
jurov | mod6, it was the difficulty that spiked yest | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | myeah, otc evaporatively cooled or w/e it was | [20:51] |
ThickAsThieves | Est % Change | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i find that so odd, im still measuring the output at like 27th | [20:51] |
ThickAsThieves | was that high | [20:51] |
jurov | so gribble was thinking it will got 15% up | [20:51] |
jurov | *go | [20:51] |
mod6 | oh hmm. ok. didn't know that. | [20:52] |
ThickAsThieves | i think it was even up to 20% | [20:52] |
jurov | and not difficulty but hashrate to be exact. | [20:52] |
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ThickAsThieves | i'm missing something, but why would the hashrate change so much overnight? | [20:53] |
mod6 | maybe the asics made it out of tennekey | [20:53] |
ThickAsThieves | but it went down | [20:53] |
jurov | it does normally, it's variance | [20:53] |
jurov | miners get more successful in finding blocks -> hashrate increas is inferred | [20:53] |
ThickAsThieves | ah i see | [20:54] |
pigeons | "he reason I take the time to type out a response like that is because I enjoy treating people I don’t know like they’re actual human beings, take them seriously and so forth." | [20:54] |
pigeons | who said that? | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves estimating hashrate is a very noisy process | [20:54] |
mod6 | mircea_popescu just did in his blog | [20:54] |
jurov | i don't think bitcoincharts meticulusly gathers stats from the pools how many hashes got computed actually | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | there's no actual way to measure it | [20:54] |
ThickAsThieves | i was forgetting about the "luck" aspect i guess | [20:55] |
mod6 | well, "just" meaning like an hour ago in here: (09:58) < mircea_popescu> http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/least-likely-to-succeed-character-the-upseller/ | [20:55] |
swhitt | it's a poisson process | [20:56] |
swhitt | you can estimate what lambda is by the number of occurrences per unit time | [20:56] |
jurov | dunno if it's a poisson.. we just infer from very few data points | [20:56] |
ThickAsThieves | so does the difficulty prediction get more stable the closer to the end of the current diff level? | [20:57] |
swhitt | and the difficulty adjustment is to get lambda back to the average time of 10 minutes | [20:57] |
jurov | if the pools exported stats about work submitted, that would be more reliable | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | its a poisson process by definition neh ? | [20:57] |
swhitt | yes it's a poisson process by definitions | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | jurov there's no practical way for the pools to do it either, not as hashes | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | they could perhaps report shares, but there's issues with that too (i am told, i don't really understand this) | [20:57] |
swhitt | it would be more reliable but you have 20160 datapoints | [20:57] |
swhitt | good enough for gubment work | [20:58] |
jurov | lol | [20:58] |
jcpham | normalize it, same chart | [20:58] |
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swhitt | mircea_popescu: well, each pool has a different difficulty for the shares | [20:58] |
mircea_popescu | exactly. | [20:58] |
jurov | the pools must have a way to measure the work semi-precisely.. to be able to sanely compute payouts | [20:59] |
swhitt | and many pools adjust diff for each user | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | ya hta'ts what i meant, they use the per-user diff thing | [20:59] |
jurov | in the end difficulty really only takes into account really issued blocks, not the work behind them... so the point is moot | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | probably wuile's estimates are the better thing to go by | [21:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ | [21:00] |
jcpham | http://blog.rongarret.info/2013/02/a-simple-solution-to-credit-card-fraud.html | [21:01] |
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ThickAsThieves | so as an exercise, what data and info would you use in assessing XDIFFMAR? | [21:02] |
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mircea_popescu | jcpham lol, i said it first omg. | [21:02] |
ThickAsThieves | i know its a loaded question | [21:02] |
jcpham | he's on the right path... | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | true. | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | well im too lazy to comment on google stuff, so. | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | he'll figure it out. | [21:03] |
jurov | ThickAsThieves, i just drawn some lines over sipa's graphs | [21:03] |
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jurov | and decided it will be under 8 | [21:04] |
jurov | bu the moon and stars and technical analysis | [21:04] |
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jurov | 8 million | [21:04] |
ThickAsThieves | were your eyes open or closed when you drew the lines? ;) | [21:05] |
mod6 | moon and stars, is that like licking your finger to determine which way the wind blows? | [21:05] |
mod6 | lol | [21:05] |
jurov | also sold few shares of iDiff-E on bitfunder for 0.07 hedged by bitbet but won't sell for that price anymore | [21:05] |
ThickAsThieves | that is specifically what i'm assessing actually | [21:06] |
ThickAsThieves | i bought at .07 | [21:06] |
jurov | so you bought and now having second thoughts ? :D | [21:06] |
ThickAsThieves | mmm, it wasnt a LOT of btc | [21:07] |
ThickAsThieves | just that i did base my choice on somewhat ignorant grasp of gribbles predictions | [21:07] |
jurov | i bribed gribble | [21:07] |
jurov | don't trust him | [21:08] |
ThickAsThieves | i knew it | [21:08] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;bribe gribble | [21:09] |
gribble | Error: "bribe" is not a valid command. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | lies. | [21:09] |
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jurov | ;;sudo bribe | [21:09] |
gribble | do it yourself, punk. | [21:09] |
jcpham | hax | [21:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7009 @ 0.00064314 = 4.5078 BTC [+] | [21:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00064339 = 6.4339 BTC [+] | [21:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 341 @ 0.0006434 = 0.2194 BTC [+] | [21:10] |
mod6 | ;;donate gribble | [21:10] |
gribble | Error: "donate" is not a valid command. | [21:10] |
jurov | ;;botsnack | [21:10] |
gribble | Forget the snack, just send me some bitcoins at 1MgD6rah5zUgEGYZnNmdpnXMaDR3itKYzU :) | [21:10] |
chmod755 | ;;botsnack | [21:10] |
gribble | Forget the snack, just send me some bitcoins at 1MgD6rah5zUgEGYZnNmdpnXMaDR3itKYzU :) | [21:10] |
chmod755 | ^ | [21:10] |
mod6 | ah ha | [21:10] |
jurov | finally figured it | [21:10] |
mod6 | wow 269.69 received | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | gribble is richer than most americans | [21:11] |
chmod755 | you guys suck...my most recent snack is still the last botsnack | [21:11] |
chmod755 | 0.01 | [21:12] |
lyspooner | mircea_popescu that is funny | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | isn't that a depressing thought | [21:12] |
chmod755 | lol | [21:12] |
mod6 | mircea_popescu: yeah, this is probably true. | [21:12] |
pigeons | i'm trying to understand the differences between the exchange on weex and the bitfunder fiat assets | [21:12] |
chmod755 | mircea_popescu, errr. except gribble can't spend the money without nanotube | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 i dunno, i vaguely recall reading the avg net worth is teetering towards negative. | [21:12] |
mod6 | yeah, it seems to me that just about NO ONE has any cash to spare. anyone who works a "regular" type job anyway... | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | chmod755 not necessarily a bad thing that :p | [21:13] |
mod6 | people here wont put up with this for forever. eventually when food and gas prices get high enough... RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE | [21:14] |
ThickAsThieves | pigeons, the main difference is you can use different words when you talk about your transactions now :) | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 you think ? | [21:15] |
mod6 | i feel it. | [21:15] |
mod6 | people here are angry | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves i like the part of "buy dollars with bitcoins" tbh. | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 ya but against the machine ? i imagine it'll be more against each other. | [21:15] |
mod6 | they know they're angry. im not sure they can put a finger on it yet... | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | the govt will be fine for a while yet. | [21:16] |
mod6 | they don't realize quite what is happening too much disinformation | [21:16] |
mod6 | but someday, it will become clear. (maybe when gas hits $20/gal) and a loaf of bread is $25 | [21:16] |
mod6 | then RAGE | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. for instance, i heard today that the irs a. moved the start of filling from 15th to 31th january | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | and also doesn't have the forms ready, so you can't file | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | but it won't extend the deadline either. | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | this is nowhere on the news. | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | the fact that obama is a chicken eating nigger faggot or whatever, THAT is all over the news | [21:17] |
ThickAsThieves | one thing i dont get is, how can the irs even pretend to be able to verify tax returns? | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | as if anyone actually cares. | [21:17] |
mod6 | no, state media outlets wont publish any of these kind of things... quelling the masses. | [21:17] |
ThickAsThieves | how many audits can they really do | [21:17] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves well, it's an intimidation racket mostly. | [21:18] |
mod6 | people here are beginning to understand the depth of debt problems... they don't understand the fine points, but they know that it can't be good that the fedz owe $16tn | [21:18] |
lyspooner | mircea_popescu: did you see the moneyness blog article about bitcoin securities? | [21:18] |
jurov | oh you wish there will be rage. they invent yet another war, the more nonsensical, the better | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | lyspooner have not. link ? | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | jurov maybe they finalyl invade canada | [21:18] |
lyspooner | http://jpkoning.blogspot.ca/2013/02/financial-deepening-and-currency.html | [21:18] |
mircea_popescu | like it was foretold in fallout 2. | [21:18] |
mod6 | jurov: i hope that people here will realize the fleecing that has happened here and hold the parties responsible. | [21:19] |
mod6 | soon. | [21:19] |
mod6 | very soon. | [21:19] |
mircea_popescu | "Eichengreen's theory is that the US dollar became the world's go-to currency because of the emergence of a very specific financial instrument—the banker's acceptance." | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | certainly. | [21:20] |
jurov | if they didn't realize it so far... they'll be too embarrassed to admit it now | [21:20] |
mircea_popescu | huh now that's a good point. | [21:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.0006434 = 15.892 BTC [+] | [21:20] |
mod6 | yeah but embarrassed isn't really a problem. it doesnt feel good either way to have your wealth stripped away by corporations and banksters. | [21:21] |
mod6 | at first they will blame themselfs for being too ingnorant or some such thing... | [21:21] |
mod6 | but then their anger will be directed outward. | [21:21] |
mod6 | thats the RATM part. | [21:21] |
mircea_popescu | lyspooner he lists picostocks. da fuck is wrong with people. | [21:21] |
mod6 | most people feel helpless against the in the face of big bro. so i think people are just waiting for it to implode on itself. which it will... but there will be twists and turns in the road. | [21:22] |
jurov | i was reading a good analysis how overthrowing governments happened only after food prices rose out of reach. there was NO other correlation found | [21:23] |
jcpham | starving people have much power | [21:23] |
jurov | govt can do prettny much whatever it wants, as long ppl are fed | [21:23] |
lyspooner | oh, mircea_popescu, i see you already posted a comment on that site | [21:23] |
mod6 | yeah, no one really gives a shit about government until it gets in the way of feeding yourself and your family. | [21:24] |
mod6 | then the torches+pitch-forks come out. | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | lyspooner i have ? | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | i mean i did just now | [21:24] |
lyspooner | gwern right? | [21:25] |
iz | what's that mtgox page that shows bid ask walls? | [21:26] |
mod6 | (11:15) < mircea_popescu> mod6 ya but against the machine ? i imagine it'll be more against each other. << not sure this can be avoided any more. people are wholly divided. | [21:26] |
mircea_popescu | no ? | [21:26] |
jurov | iz ,mtgoxlive.com | [21:26] |
mod6 | I guess I hope that people can come together and clean house entirely at all levels of government. | [21:26] |
iz | i'm thinking of that static page.. | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | never gonna happen mod6. | [21:27] |
mod6 | I would think that all politics are local, so it just depends on where you're at. But there will be two sides. | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | romanians for instance had a much better shot in 1989, and still we didn't round them up and shoot the lot. | [21:27] |
mircea_popescu | which i still say would have been the correct solution. | [21:27] |
mod6 | you did get the president and his wife thought right? | [21:28] |
jurov | exactly | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 ya. | [21:28] |
mod6 | *nod* i remember that. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | well, the president and the vice president or w/e | [21:28] |
jurov | mod6, forget the president.. here whole secret service turned into "entrepreneurs" | [21:28] |
mod6 | ah. | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | wasn't on the grounds of being the wife, was on the grounds of being pretty much the #2 | [21:28] |
mod6 | ahh i see. | [21:29] |
mod6 | i remember it on tv. it was like, quick trial, then outback to the woodshed. | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | on christmas eve | [21:29] |
mod6 | Ahh thats right! | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | half hour before abolishing the deathpenalty. | [21:29] |
jurov | mod6, and the same will happen everywhere... intelligent people will see the system as unsustainable, they'll plan exit routes accordingly | [21:29] |
mod6 | merry christmas, you are free. | [21:29] |
mircea_popescu | the trial was a monstrosity tho. | [21:30] |
mod6 | i don't remember the details.. i guess I was only 9. | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/procesul-ceausescu/ there's the full thing adnotated. (in romanian) | [21:30] |
mod6 | oh cool. :) | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | possibly the worst kangoroo court i ever saw. | [21:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.0006434 = 7.3669 BTC [+] | [21:31] |
mod6 | yeah, it was def. a kangoroo deal, i do remember that. I think they typically are after the revolutionaries take over. | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | ya but this was a brand apart. | [21:31] |
mircea_popescu | the judge was prosecuting from the bench for crying out loud | [21:31] |
mod6 | oh.. yeah. that doesn't seem like it should make sense. couldn't the people put a good enough case together? | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [21:32] |
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mircea_popescu | you couldn't find five people who could actually argue a case atthe time. | [21:32] |
mircea_popescu | and i mean that literally. | [21:32] |
mod6 | well, that happens sometimes. im not sure that we have a lot of lawyers who could successfully prosecute any of the banksters or government officials who've broken the law. | [21:33] |
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mircea_popescu | but anyway, it was something like Francis Biddle or whoever being Indian and going "you're a bad man, you're a very very bad man" at Goebbels. | [21:34] |
mod6 | i mean, it is a raquette |
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mircea_popescu | racket ? | [21:34] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN29X2HCKpU this guy. | [21:34] |
jurov | mircea, and you think if you started to shot communists, would that happen anywhere near accurately and effectively? | [21:34] |
jurov | better not think about it | [21:34] |
mod6 | yeah, for some reason i thought the crime related racket had a different speling. | [21:35] |
mod6 | *spelling... damn i suck at spelling | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | jurov anyone who ever worked for either the party or the state, bang. simple solution. | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | be left with half the population maybe, and a clear point in mind. don't do that. | [21:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15657 @ 0.0006434 = 10.0737 BTC [+] | [21:36] |
mod6 | hmm.. yeah there are a lot of people who work in goverment here, and its getting larger. | [21:36] |
jurov | hm, last time such thing happened with any success was probably when israelites fled egypt | [21:36] |
mod6 | it used to be that you didn't want to work for government ever, unless you were already rich and "heard the call of duty" | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | hey, im not saying it's practical. | [21:37] |
jurov | and torah was written by winning side anyway | [21:37] |
mod6 | now its like people aspire to work for big bro. | [21:37] |
mod6 | its crazy. | [21:37] |
mircea_popescu | it never is practical. | [21:37] |
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mod6 | (11:29) < jurov> mod6, and the same will happen everywhere... intelligent people will see the system as unsustainable, they'll plan exit routes accordingly << some might. | [21:40] |
mod6 | people are waking up to all of this (four years later I'll add) but there is so much disinformation out there... think frog in pot | [21:41] |
jurov | not might, they will do. and even if not, in the chaos the'yll have advantage of web of contacts. | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-] | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4999 @ 0.00063928 = 3.1958 BTC [-] | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063927 = 0.6393 BTC [-] | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 821 @ 0.00063926 = 0.5248 BTC [-] | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 510 @ 0.00063916 = 0.326 BTC [-] | [21:41] |
mod6 | and since this is like the matrix, anyone who has any wealth left defends the system. | [21:42] |
mod6 | they're so hoplessly dependant upon easy credit and the system they'll fight to defend it. | [21:42] |
mod6 | until it all comes to a screeching hault. | [21:42] |
mod6 | then RATM | [21:43] |
lyspooner | mod6, what timeline do you expect this to happen | [21:43] |
jurov | mod6, read this: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml | [21:44] |
jurov | and get inspired. some things will come to halt, some do not. | [21:44] |
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mod6 | lyspooner: i figure 3 years or less. | [21:45] |
mod6 | as soon as they cut off the SNAP cards. | [21:45] |
jurov | What happens when a modern economy collapses, and the complex society it supports disintegrates? A look at a country that has recently undergone such an experience can be most educational. | [21:45] |
jurov | it's quite long but i thoroughly enjoyed it | [21:45] |
mircea_popescu | jurov it will be horrible for many of the tense spots. new york, largely boston, most of california | [21:46] |
mircea_popescu | the midwest will be mostly fine, even make a pretty penny. | [21:46] |
jurov | maybe. barring any serious climate problems | [21:47] |
mircea_popescu | the problem with california is water really. | [21:48] |
mircea_popescu | the problems with new york are too many to list. | [21:48] |
Bugpowder | Whelp.... Guess I shouldn't be moving to LA | [21:48] |
mod6 | yeah, they wanted me to move to mountain view this year. i was like "LOL yeah right..." | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder it's a tense place to be in, if shtf. | [21:49] |
Bugpowder | oh boy | [21:49] |
Bugpowder | big wall | [21:49] |
Bugpowder | at 31 now | [21:49] |
Bugpowder | Well... I don't think the fan will be hit | [21:50] |
Bugpowder | Time to buy some fresh real estate in downtown Santa Monica | [21:50] |
mod6 | hmmm. | [21:50] |
Bugpowder | and ride the next asset bubble | [21:50] |
mod6 | Maybe I'm way off and this comedy will continue for 50 years... | [21:50] |
Bugpowder | while you guys are all stressing about the end of the system. I'm going ride it up again. | [21:50] |
mod6 | all ponzi schemes do come to an end though... | [21:51] |
mod6 | Bugpowder: enjoy it while it lasts dude. | [21:51] |
Bugpowder | yes but there are many ways it could play out | [21:51] |
mod6 | but when the music stops, I hope you're not long. | [21:51] |
Bugpowder | Are we talking about global debt crisis or bitcoin prices, BTW? | [21:52] |
Bugpowder | I came in late | [21:52] |
mod6 | hhaha, even if you are and your portfolio is worth 100bn, you won't be able to buy 6 eggs with that. | [21:52] |
Bugpowder | uhhh.... | [21:52] |
Bugpowder | no | [21:52] |
mod6 | lol no!? | [21:52] |
mod6 | think zimbabwe | [21:52] |
Bugpowder | yes | [21:53] |
Bugpowder | how is that relevant? | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder topic was us collapse not btc. | [21:53] |
mod6 | im like wtf | [21:53] |
mircea_popescu | and ftr i didn't start it. | [21:53] |
mod6 | ok i gotta get some thing to eat. | [21:53] |
mod6 | brb. | [21:53] |
mod6 | i started it. | [21:53] |
mod6 | bbs. | [21:54] |
Bugpowder | short term top? | [21:55] |
Bugpowder | in BTC? | [21:55] |
DeadWeasel | sounds like society collapse | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | the end of the world is nigh! | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | eat your girlfriends and fuck your wine for that's all you take with you! | [21:56] |
Bugpowder | The society collapse narrative is really driven by people that want to sell you gold, guns and ammo. | [21:56] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder nah | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | the society collapse narrative has been a mainstay of human culture for as long as such existed | [21:57] |
Bugpowder | yah | [21:57] |
Bugpowder | ok | [21:57] |
Bugpowder | tru | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | it was discussed in the same terms and with the same motivs in like 1400 | [21:57] |
mircea_popescu | we have records. | [21:57] |
Bugpowder | instead of sacrificing people to the volcano | [21:57] |
Bugpowder | to stave off destruction | [21:58] |
Bugpowder | buy gold and bury it in your backyard | [21:58] |
Bugpowder | or bitcoins | [21:58] |
Bugpowder | buy bitcoins | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | the thing is tho, human society does collapse periodically. | [21:59] |
jurov | i don't believe in some value tokens so much. i think rather having web of out-of-box thinking people is the key to survival. | [21:59] |
mircea_popescu | also a very good point | [22:00] |
jurov | by the way, you'll come around some tokens, too | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | jurov now you know why the secret service people ended up entrepreneurs | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | in catastrophic situations knowing the right people is most valuable. | [22:00] |
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TomServo | mircea_popescu: what are a couple example of societal collapse? | [22:01] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [22:01] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.25000, Best ask: 30.66940, Bid-ask spread: 0.41940, Last trade: 30.25000, 24 hour volume: 61491.24221722, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.38573 | [22:01] |
Bowjob | Oh shit | [22:01] |
Bowjob | Drop!!! | [22:01] |
Bugpowder | yeah | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo the obvious one is the fall of the roman empire. | [22:01] |
jurov | TomServo, http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060105_soviet_lessons.shtml | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | the old south collapsed as such after the civil war. the british empire did the same. | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | napoelon's france collapsed, royal france collapsed before that | [22:01] |
Bugpowder | It's driving the 24vwap up though | [22:01] |
Bugpowder | :) | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | chinese society collapsed like 6 or 7 times | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | germany collapsed end of ww2, soviet empire end of cold war | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | how many so far, a dozen ? | [22:02] |
DeadWeasel | aztecs | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | list is pretty long. | [22:02] |
Bugpowder | Societies do collapse | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | the hittite empire collapsed completely. the hellenistic empire (larger than any other, incidentally) did likewise | [22:02] |
DeadWeasel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#Examples_of_civilizations_and_societies_that_have_collapsed | [22:02] |
TomServo | All good examples. I guess the difference this time being the 'shrinking' of the globe? | [22:02] |
Bugpowder | BUT... the probability that in any given generation a collapse will occur rather than a muddling through is pretty low | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo i wonder why'd it be a difference. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder black swan events. fat tail. all that jazz. | [22:03] |
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Bugpowder | I would think that the collapse would be more obvious ahead of time. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | nah | [22:03] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: well, the roman collapse didn't affect anything going on in america at the time. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | i am pretty sure the correct model for understanding them is financial crisis. | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo so ? | [22:03] |
Bugpowder | Like, the metro to Santa Monica is almost complete and there are some really nice parks being built. | [22:03] |
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Bugpowder | that does not smell like collapes | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder some of the best surviving roman architecture is from right before and right after collapse. | [22:04] |
Bugpowder | How many of these collapses were due to outside influence 'changing the game' | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | in general arts trail. | [22:04] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: so america collapsing isn't going to just affect america | [22:04] |
Bugpowder | vs internal collapse due to debt/corruption | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | TomServo this is a theory. we have no actual history to back it yet. | [22:04] |
Bugpowder | 50% | [22:04] |
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mircea_popescu | Bugpowder i don't see why you think those two are categorically distinct. seems the same thing to me. | [22:05] |
TomServo | mircea_popescu: correct I'm just speculating - it just seems like common sense though. | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | there's nothing common about sense :D | [22:05] |
TomServo | with USD being the reserve currency | [22:05] |
Bugpowder | well, getting conquered, new disease vector, etc | [22:05] |
TomServo | true. | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder so has china conquered the us ? | [22:06] |
Bugpowder | no | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | hah. | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | if we were archeologists we'd look at the items we find and say yes it was. | [22:06] |
Bugpowder | In 1986 everyone thought Japan owned the US and soon the world | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | not my point tho. | [22:07] |
jurov | and germany won the WWII | [22:07] |
Bugpowder | Perspectives can change quickly | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | the way "conquest" is established is look at item production and distribution sources. | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | like, buncha minoan pottery in mainland greece? minos conquered mainland greece. | [22:07] |
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Bowjob | Can we stop the madness | [22:13] |
Bowjob | lets crash bitcoin.. | [22:13] |
Bowjob | upwards! | [22:13] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [22:13] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.80001, Best ask: 30.88023, Bid-ask spread: 0.08022, Last trade: 30.80001, 24 hour volume: 61512.77047919, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.38853 | [22:13] |
Bowjob | Good enough lol | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | so basically... i need to add more option lines. | [22:14] |
mod6 | jurov: thanks for that link | [22:14] |
mod6 | Each half-liter bottle of vodka was exchanged for ten liters of gasoline, giving vodka far greater effective energy density than rocket fuel. | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 there's an old joke, goes something like this : | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | buncha people inside a train car stopped in the middle of nowhere. they ask the conductor why aren't they moving ? | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | "because the engineer is changing the engine". | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | after a few hours they get impatient | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | "well... why are not moving still ?" | [22:15] |
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mircea_popescu | "because the engineer changed the engine for a bottle of vodka. | [22:16] |
mod6 | haha | [22:16] |
mod6 | awesome | [22:16] |
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Bugpowder | more option lines are definitely needed | [22:17] |
mod6 | i've read a lot of russian lit, and someday if things are ever better in this world, I'd like to visit. | [22:17] |
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Bugpowder | BTW your analogy about china conquering the US reflects more upon the folly of inference from archeological scraps that on the reality of the current power structure. | [22:19] |
Bugpowder | than on | [22:19] |
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Bugpowder | Does BTCe have a deposit problem or what? | [22:19] |
Bugpowder | http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/btceUSD.html | [22:19] |
mod6 | well, i think since we owe them, and basically we buy all their shit, is that not economic conquring? | [22:19] |
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rp44 | any perceived risk for a retracement today? seems like there is still accelerating buying at the exchanges. | [22:21] |
kakobrekla | http://i.imgur.com/EA4fk.jpeg | [22:21] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder possibly so, yes. | [22:21] |
mod6 | lol jesus & meth | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | rp44 we dunno. | [22:22] |
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Bowjob | Man.. dice isnt doing so hot | [22:23] |
Bugpowder | rp44 There is massive and increasing risk of retracement today | [22:24] |
Bugpowder | and tomorrow | [22:24] |
Bugpowder | and until it occurs | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [22:24] |
Bugpowder | in my perception | [22:24] |
maximian | whoa | [22:24] |
maximian | another big dump | [22:24] |
rp44 | ~150K sell on mtgox absorbed in <20 mins | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [22:27] |
Bugpowder | MOAR volume | [22:27] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 30.53481, Best ask: 30.61690, Bid-ask spread: 0.08209, Last trade: 30.82357, 24 hour volume: 63933.39569825, 24 hour low: 29.67001, 24 hour high: 31.30000, 24 hour vwap: 30.39600 | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | so am i adding options to 50 or to 85 ? | [22:27] |
Bugpowder | 50 | [22:27] |
lyspooner | 69 | [22:27] |
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Bugpowder | If it gets to 40, then maybe add some more | [22:27] |
lyspooner | why are the next months' volumes so low? usually by this time there's some open interest worth talking about | [22:28] |
Namworld | S.DICE is fine... | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | lyspooner ikr? | [22:29] |
Bugpowder | lyspooner: there hasn't been that much volume this moth | [22:30] |
Bugpowder | me, Namworld and unknown other party | [22:31] |
Bugpowder | I think were most of the action | [22:31] |
* | Namworld would like to remind everyone that don't have an MPEx account that they can buy S.DICE-PT/S.MPOE-PT/S.BBET-PT on http://www.btct.co | [22:31] |
Namworld | oh yeah... apparently I chose the wrong time for those options | [22:31] |
Namworld | Unless someone drops 500k BTC on the market RIGHT NOW | [22:32] |
Bugpowder | it could happen | [22:32] |
Namworld | Unlikely, but... | [22:33] |
Bugpowder | Give me an hour... :-P | [22:33] |
Namworld | maybe if I drug some bitcoin big shot enough... | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:34] |
Namworld | I can make that person believe the price is currently 0.30 USD/BTC and he should stop loss... | [22:34] |
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mjr__ | lol | [22:39] |
mjr__ | it would take a million and a half to move it to 28 i think | [22:39] |
Namworld | Looks like we might have a good month for S.MPOE | [22:39] |
mjr__ | nice | [22:40] |
Namworld | sure, lots of low calls... | [22:40] |
Namworld | but 70k puts bought at 33-35... these are worth almost nothing by now. | [22:40] |
Namworld | They were bought for 1+ BTC each... | [22:41] |
Namworld | major burn | [22:41] |
DeadWeasel | . | [22:41] |
Namworld | maybe... | [22:41] |
Namworld | might have been exercised at some point between then and now. | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld i think that was covered tho | [22:42] |
Namworld | probably at some point, yes | [22:42] |
Namworld | just like calls might have been executed early to take profit. It's hard to evaluate. | [22:43] |
jborkl | mp, I have imported and signed the new key- It will not work until the 10th, correct | [22:44] |
thestringpuller | Bugpowder could you get me diff futures? | [22:46] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR | [22:47] |
assbot | [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC) | [22:47] |
thestringpuller | ;;bc,stats | [22:47] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222590 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1185 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 52 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4896611.1042 | Estimated Percent Change: 34.11656 | [22:47] |
ThickAsThieves | thats more like it | [22:47] |
Namworld | I can also get you futures | [22:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064225 = 2.7752 BTC [+] | [22:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00064257 = 3.8554 BTC [+] | [22:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00064258 = 13.8155 BTC [+] | [22:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 679 @ 0.0006434 = 0.4369 BTC [+] | [22:52] |
mircea_popescu | http://mpex.co/ | [22:53] |
mircea_popescu | new option strikes available, 5 to 75. | [22:53] |
Namworld | eh, that's better | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | the even values will be exercised normally after which they will no longer be offered. | [22:54] |
mircea_popescu | the bot is going to quote under supervision for the next hour or so, trades may be reverted. | [22:54] |
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Namworld | no even value? odd. | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | that is EXACTLY why i picked it :D | [22:55] |
mircea_popescu | i totally can't believe i had to do this once a month ffs. | [22:56] |
Namworld | eh | [22:56] |
ThickAsThieves | What is "K.KBRL Pending, due klim." ? | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | values 1 to 20 worked fine for like 6 months | [22:57] |
Namworld | Well expect to repeat every few years I guess. | [22:57] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves more an inside joke than anything | [22:57] |
ThickAsThieves | word | [22:57] |
Namworld | Thick: It's a joke apparently | [22:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17311 @ 0.0006434 = 11.1379 BTC [+] | [22:58] |
Bugpowder | thestringpuller: get you them? | [22:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15239 @ 0.00064369 = 9.8092 BTC [+] | [22:58] |
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Bugpowder | [15:40] |
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Bugpowder | That was the 10k shorted then rebought. | [22:59] |
Namworld | Oh, maybe | [22:59] |
jurov | btw, my pympex fork is already prepared for new key.. should switch itself automatically | [22:59] |
Bugpowder | remember we are on a short moth | [22:59] |
Bugpowder | month | [22:59] |
Namworld | yeah | [22:59] |
Namworld | K.KBRL seems like Ka.KoBRekLa, the manager of this channel. | [22:59] |
mircea_popescu | jurov nice! | [22:59] |
Namworld | When can I buy parts of Kako? | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld it was originally, believe it or not, preparing for a bitbond listing (amazingrando's thing) | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | that deal fell through. | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | so the entire mpex community didn't end up scammed | [23:00] |
Namworld | eh | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | i kept it on the books there for months, then eventually when we were preparing to launch bitbet i moved it to k.kbrl | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | i'll get rid of it one of these days, but what's the hurry. | [23:01] |
Bugpowder | thestringpuller: Herrro??? | [23:01] |
thestringpuller | yo | [23:01] |
mircea_popescu | actually... | [23:01] |
Bugpowder | what did you mean, get you futures/ | [23:02] |
thestringpuller | can I send you money for diff futures? | [23:02] |
thestringpuller | push them to smickles | [23:02] |
jurov | i can do it, too | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | there, i've updated it. | [23:02] |
Bugpowder | ok | [23:02] |
Bugpowder | how many and what price? | [23:02] |
Namworld | I offered too jurov... no answer | [23:02] |
thestringpuller | im at work | [23:03] |
thestringpuller | lol | [23:03] |
Namworld | He wants bugpowder. | [23:03] |
thestringpuller | on a phone | [23:03] |
thestringpuller | i didnt see your msg Namworld | [23:03] |
Bowjob | We need some bit news about s.dice.. it seems to be out of the spotlight lately | [23:04] |
ThickAsThieves | mp, do you have any new assets in the pipeline for mpex? | [23:04] |
Bugpowder | probably not a bad thing to be out of the spotlight | [23:04] |
Bugpowder | it got a LOT of press | [23:04] |
jurov | lol, he just created option upwards to 75 | [23:04] |
jurov | but seems he isn't selling them atm | [23:04] |
Bugpowder | only after opex | [23:04] |
Bugpowder | last 24 hours are too easy to game the system | [23:05] |
Bugpowder | afraid to go to the gym. | [23:05] |
Namworld | bugpowder... bugpowder... bugpowder everywhere on my screen! Mothra must be around. | [23:05] |
Bugpowder | might need to exercise the options | [23:05] |
Bugpowder | DUST | [23:05] |
Bugpowder | !ticker m s.mpoe | [23:05] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063035 / 0.00063769 / 0.00064369 (1230906 shares, 784.94 BTC), 7D: 0.000622 / 0.00064929 / 0.00068894 (10550014 shares, 6,850.11 BTC), 30D: 0.00059613 / 0.00066482 / 0.0007 (72358008 shares, 48,105.59 BTC) | [23:05] |
Bugpowder | can we bid this shit back up to .0007 please | [23:05] |
thestringpuller | it will soon | [23:06] |
thestringpuller | after divs | [23:06] |
Bugpowder | that makes sens | [23:06] |
Bugpowder | ok | [23:06] |
Bugpowder | gotta go get ripped. | [23:06] |
Bugpowder | no crashing the market while I'm gone. | [23:06] |
Namworld | We should have the profit statement released soon | [23:06] |
Namworld | Bugpowder, no worries | [23:07] |
Bugpowder | well after opex | [23:07] |
Namworld | We'll just dump 5 million BTC on the market | [23:07] |
Bugpowder | unless you are REALLY gonna crash it | [23:07] |
Bugpowder | I'm cool with that too | [23:07] |
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Bowjob | lemme cash out before you dump it lol | [23:10] |
Namworld | You'll cash out at 1 USD/BTC like everyone else while I buy... | [23:10] |
mod6 | same | [23:11] |
thestringpuller | mod6 | [23:11] |
mod6 | thestringpuller: | [23:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 148 @ 0.008 = 1.184 BTC [-] | [23:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00784 BTC [-] | [23:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00351 BTC [-] | [23:12] |
Bowjob | cashing out at 50 bucks, buying back at 2 dollars :3 | [23:12] |
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Bowjob | whatever happened to erik ? | [23:13] |
mod6 | the bike man? | [23:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070N] 1000 @ 0.95853928 = 958.5393 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C050N] 1000 @ 0.99946531 = 999.4653 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
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ThickAsThieves | someone said he's been in meetings all week | [23:16] |
ThickAsThieves | assuming you mean evoor | [23:17] |
Bowjob | maybe hes selling to a big player | [23:17] |
Namworld | Who buys calls at 0.99946531? | [23:17] |
gigavps | or talking to the feds | [23:17] |
Namworld | That's almost impossible to be worth more than that... | [23:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00608 BTC [+] | [23:23] |
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jurov | i'd like someone to sell me C750N | [23:25] |
jurov | but tomorrow | [23:25] |
jurov | or at least C500N | [23:26] |
ThickAsThieves | sdice profit = 1998BTC the day | [23:27] |
jurov | or C1000N lol | [23:27] |
maximian | awesome | [23:27] |
ThickAsThieves | *for the day | [23:27] |
maximian | 12000+ BTC for the month | [23:27] |
Bowjob | mhm | [23:27] |
maximian | * price sinks * | [23:27] |
Bowjob | nb i guess | [23:27] |
Bowjob | slow month for dice | [23:28] |
maximian | it's great | [23:28] |
maximian | nah, everyone got spoiled by the whale | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | jurov well you're gonna be able to buy from teh bot. | [23:28] |
Bowjob | how much of that 12k is from the whale | [23:28] |
jurov | mircea_popescu iirc when new options up to 35 were created, there was no offer for a long time there | [23:29] |
maximian | not sure | [23:29] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov no ? | [23:29] |
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jurov | but i may remember wrongly. | [23:30] |
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mircea_popescu | they were created the 24th and were on offer normally after the 25th of last month | [23:30] |
Bowjob | ah 2k profit | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | currently we're scratching heads over a VERY FUCKING WEIRD THING. | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | look at how the bot values far calls. | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | O.BTCUSD.C590N 0.02835972 | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | O.BTCUSD.C590N 0.02835972 | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | O.BTCUSD.C630N 0.00015275 | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | O.BTCUSD.C730N 0.00020444 | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | i mean da fuck ?! | [23:32] |
jurov | looks like it misparsed the strike | [23:32] |
mircea_popescu | c730 are worth like 30% more than c630 ? srsly ? | [23:32] |
jurov | dunno | [23:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064114 = 2.7704 BTC [-] | [23:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3729 @ 0.00064096 = 2.3901 BTC [-] | [23:34] |
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ThickAsThieves | iphone facebook app allows free calls now | [23:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 361 @ 0.00064369 = 0.2324 BTC [+] | [23:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064385 = 2.7821 BTC [+] | [23:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064386 = 7.34 BTC [+] | [23:43] |
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mod6 | I re-read the The Ceausescu article. I forgot that I already read it before, but it was a good review. | [23:50] |
mod6 | That Judge was something else though, you're right. | [23:50] |
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