Forum logs for 22 Dec 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00049091 = 15.6109 BTC [+] {3} [00:05]
thestringpuller !gettrust mframe [00:10]
assbot mframe is not registered in WoT. [00:10]
ben_vulpes << i could crap out a limited subset of toolchain adequate to demonstrate workflow with/out emacs if you'd like [00:11]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 19:45:02; jurov: ben_vulpes: do you have publicly available sample outcome of the glorious process? [00:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah, signs off as 5.4 [00:22]
asciilifeform ah ok [00:23]
mircea_popescu "blocks" : 122106 heh [00:24]
mircea_popescu first 120k in ~90 mins [00:24]
mod6 nb -verifyall ? [00:24]
mircea_popescu ye [00:24]
mod6 coo [00:24]
mod6 shinohai: btw, i can walk you through getting an openbsd version going. you have to manually add some patches posted to the ML by 'phf'? [00:27]
mod6 yeah phf [00:28]
asciilifeform ;;seen phf [00:28]
gribble phf was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: or maybe it's picking up your gcc since you have it installed. homebrew compiler selection algo is all kinds of creative [00:28]
mod6 [00:29]
assbot [BTC-dev] openbsd patch ... ( ) [00:29]
phf i'm still around, my dad died on the 10th, so i've been busy arranging his affairs [00:34]
* asciilifeform takes off hat [00:34]
mod6 Sorry to hear that phf. [00:34]
phf so it goes [00:35]
phf he was a strong willed man, and many people from former su countries paid their respects, i'd feel accomplished in life if i can live up to his legacy [00:40]
mod6 <+danielpbarron> yeah appears so << did the whole thing build for you alright? [00:40]
danielpbarron yes [00:41]
mod6 kewl [00:41]
danielpbarron still stuck on block 367850 [00:41]
mod6 are you trying to sync against a single node? [00:42]
danielpbarron using this -> [00:42]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 01:19:57; asciilifeform: LC_ALL="C" /home/bitcoin/bin/bitcoind -datadir=/home/bitcoin/.bitcoin -myip=$wanip -addnode= 2>&1 & [00:42]
mod6 is that one Mr. P.'s node? i seem to remember maybe that one was stopped or something? asciilifeform /just/ updated Zoolag and Bucephalus [00:44]
mod6 i think he said he did anyway [00:44]
mod6 maybe restart with one of these? [00:44]
assbot the_real_bitcoin:nodes [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( ) [00:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35450 @ 0.00048698 = 17.2634 BTC [-] {2} [00:47]
mircea_popescu o.O condoleances phf [00:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44843 @ 0.00049445 = 22.1726 BTC [+] {3} [00:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24657 @ 0.00049552 = 12.218 BTC [+] {2} [00:59]
phf thanks, mp [01:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.00049595 = 7.2161 BTC [+] {2} [01:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20405 @ 0.00049607 = 10.1223 BTC [+] [01:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26650 @ 0.0004909 = 13.0825 BTC [-] [01:51]
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mircea_popescu anyway, for pete_d and anyone else who might have encountered difficulty with trb or fears they might : it's actually rather painless. 1. you create an account on a server ; 2. you cd /home/account_name ; 3. you create a .wot directory (mkdir .wot) ; 4. you put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc ; 5. you download the rotor script (curl > build-bitco [02:01]
mircea_popescu and make it executable (chmod +x and then you run it (./ that's pretty much it, takes half hour or so, spits out an executable bitcoind (in /rotor/TEST2/bitcoin/src). [02:01]
mircea_popescu You can then run this with something like LC_ALL=C nohup ./bitcoind -myip= -addnode=trusted_node_1 -addnode=trusted_node_2 -verifyall 2>&1 & [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00049626 = 11.2155 BTC [+] {3} [02:02]
asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo (or any other ebay junkie) << interesting piece of shit, with no historical record anywhere net-accessible of its existence. might make for a mega-article. [02:02]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:02]
assbot USSR Spy KGB Secret Phone Line Digital Scrambler GNC 9 3 ГНЦ 9 3 | eBay ... ( ) [02:02]
asciilifeform precious little is known about 1980s su crypto [02:02]
* mircea_popescu wonders why amazon doesn't include price in page title [02:03]
BingoBoingo Looks very cool, but I lack tools to give quality analysis [02:03]
asciilifeform thing doesn't appear to need tools [02:03]
asciilifeform 2-sided pcbs, labeled ics [02:03]
mircea_popescu in unrelated news, telecentro sa might be the shittiest isp the world has ever seen. [02:03]
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asciilifeform how come [02:04]
mircea_popescu line dies multiple times a day, every day sorta thing [02:04]
asciilifeform ick [02:04]
asciilifeform fiber? [02:04]
mircea_popescu nah, cable. [02:05]
asciilifeform ew [02:05]
* asciilifeform miser on many things but not isp [02:06]
BingoBoingo In other news qntra content is back [02:06]
BingoBoingo thing doesn't appear to need tools << Requires tools in wetware [02:06]
asciilifeform congrats BingoBoingo [02:06]
BingoBoingo Comments from the last ~week are missing, but.. [02:08]
asciilifeform << perma-photo of gnc-9-3 [02:09]
asciilifeform << previous generation of same machine, apparently [02:09]
assbot Помогите опознать изделие - Страница 6 ... ( ) [02:09]
trinque feeds thinger revived. [02:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35150 @ 0.00049565 = 17.4221 BTC [-] {2} [02:17]
asciilifeform << moar of previous subj [02:18]
assbot Фото - ГНЦ-8/2В ... ( ) [02:18]
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asciilifeform << ok looks like 195* is the old (dead) dulap [02:31]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 03:41:28; mod6: is that one Mr. P.'s node? i seem to remember maybe that one was stopped or something? asciilifeform /just/ updated Zoolag and Bucephalus [02:31]
asciilifeform plz use one of the live nodez [02:31]
asciilifeform new dulap is [02:32]
asciilifeform and is quite likely the liveliest of the nodez presently [02:32]
asciilifeform (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly) [02:32]
* trinque lets the new deedbot node have a taste [02:34]
asciilifeform my other two: [02:36]
asciilifeform --- bucephalus [02:36]
asciilifeform --- zoolag [02:36]
asciilifeform all 3 are fully synced and running same thing [02:36]
asciilifeform and have very reasonable pipes [02:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54900 @ 0.0004963 = 27.2469 BTC [+] {2} [02:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00048933 = 4.8444 BTC [-] {2} [03:21]
ben_vulpes << welcome home :) [03:32]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 01:20:33; mircea_popescu: trhis sounds like home. [03:32]
BingoBoingo war [03:40]
assbot Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system -- Bitcoin Core ... ( ) [03:40]
assbot Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system -- Bitcoin Core : Bitcoin ... ( ) [03:40]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [03:40]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 439.06, vol: 12642.92887597 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 437.9, vol: 7996.32153 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 438.76, vol: 28963.35589242 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 425.0, vol: 0.34339395 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 451.007032, vol: 102113.12970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 437.99, vol: 173.05762018 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 436.308978, vol: 137.95867145 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [03:40]
BingoBoingo ;;more [03:40]
gribble 446.962634434 [03:40]
ben_vulpes interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work [03:40]
ben_vulpes << oh ffs [03:41]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 22:32:49; asciilifeform: once mod6 and ben_vulpes shrinkwrap a buildroot, gcc, et al. this will be possible [03:41]
ben_vulpes << << << log grepping is becoming its own skill. i recently lost five minutes looking for "month" instead of "mos." [03:47]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 22:35:29; *: asciilifeform digs [03:47]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 22:35:40; *: mircea_popescu digs as well [03:47]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 23:38:07; mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ? [03:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3243 @ 0.00048678 = 1.5786 BTC [-] [03:57]
ben_vulpes << << per month? year? flat? [04:00]
assbot Logged on 17-12-2015 15:01:36; mircea_popescu: this will also add a 0.7-.8 expense on the s.nsa books, but hey, whatchagonnado. [04:01]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 05:29:33; asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly) [04:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00048678 = 4.2593 BTC [-] [04:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00048674 = 11.2924 BTC [-] {2} [04:23]
punkman << lulzy thread [04:40]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 19:53:23; jurov:!msg/boring-crypto/48qa1kWignU/o8GGp2K1DAAJ << where djb secretly desires ada [04:40]
punkman "Not to be "that guy", but as cool as it is to ponder doing this in some bright, shiny language like Rust or ML, Ada exists for a reason.  There's even an open source compiler (Gnat) that can already generate code that can link with C/C++/etc code bases.  Work would need to go into streamlining the run time overhead for this use case, but how much compared to maintaining some C compiler [04:40]
punkman fork?" [04:40]
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punkman [05:11]
assbot Confessions of a White Sushi Chef | First We Feast ... ( ) [05:11]
punkman "People call themselves a sushi chef after two to four years of making sushi, or going from restaurant to restaurant instead of taking up an apprenticeship. That doesn’t fly in my book. When a white sushi chef says, “I would work there, but it was too demanding,” then I say you are definitely too weak and we are not cut from the same cloth." [05:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10667 @ 0.00048708 = 5.1957 BTC [+] [05:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00048711 = 7.6476 BTC [+] {2} [05:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24582 @ 0.00048722 = 11.9768 BTC [+] {2} [05:34]
punkman [05:35]
assbot Some analysis of the backdoored backdoor | .:rpw:. ... ( ) [05:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27281 @ 0.00049045 = 13.38 BTC [+] {4} [05:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25870 @ 0.00048668 = 12.5904 BTC [-] [05:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00049155 = 8.6759 BTC [+] {2} [06:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35460 @ 0.00049269 = 17.4708 BTC [+] {2} [06:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15726 @ 0.00049638 = 7.8061 BTC [+] {2} [06:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19650 @ 0.00049648 = 9.7558 BTC [+] [06:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00049648 = 13.9511 BTC [+] [07:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41950 @ 0.0004884 = 20.4884 BTC [-] {5} [07:37]
BingoBoingo trinque: Are you sure feed is back on? [07:40]
BingoBoingo [07:40]
assbot CMU Tor Attack Implicated In Mannion Arrest | Qntra ... ( ) [07:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00049648 = 7.9933 BTC [+] {2} [07:42]
BingoBoingo punkman: Related [07:45]
assbot Objective Cis Het White Male - Why I NEVER Tip White Waiters ... ( ) [07:45]
punkman BingoBoingo: but does he have black friends? [07:48]
BingoBoingo Of course he doesn't [07:48]
punkman [07:50]
assbot Objective Cis Het White Male - How to be a Cis Het White Male Intersectional... ... ( ) [07:50]
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punkman "The patriarchy expects me to be a big burly man to soak up all the privilege I can. However, I find that the thinner you are as a male, the more willing people are to interact with you because you are not so threatening. As I get thinner, the patriarchy has a harder time keeping a hold on me because I can slip through its fingers more easily." [07:52]
punkman not bad [07:52]
BingoBoingo Ah so he's either fat or manorexic to top it all off [07:54]
deedbot- [Qntra] Payment Card Industry Clings To SSLv3 And TLS 1.0 For Two More Years - [08:22]
BingoBoingo Ah, there it is, ty trinque [08:22]
davout from where i am i still can't see qntra [08:24]
davout DNS resolution doesn't seem to work [08:25]
BingoBoingo I have no idea the dark magic mircea_popescu worked in the routing. [08:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00049346 = 11.4976 BTC [-] {2} [08:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2695 @ 0.00049301 = 1.3287 BTC [-] [08:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00049648 = 8.316 BTC [+] [08:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34832 @ 0.0004868 = 16.9562 BTC [-] {5} [08:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00049647 = 7.6456 BTC [+] {2} [09:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12869 @ 0.00048516 = 6.2435 BTC [-] [09:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00048496 = 15.4217 BTC [-] {5} [09:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.0004879 = 6.1475 BTC [+] [09:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20112 @ 0.00049648 = 9.9852 BTC [+] [09:36]
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mircea_popescu that's just fucking dumb. privilege is being thin, as a male. [09:50]
BingoBoingo Seriously swolepression is real [09:55]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes per month. [09:58]
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mircea_popescu war <<< "There will not be any hardfork for at least the next ~year." <<< mno. no war, sheepish surrender. we find these terms acceptable, to quote !churchill. [10:03]
mircea_popescu "Lightning will allow for almost all of the security, features, and decentralization of Bitcoin transactions while drastically reducing the number of on-blockchain transactions that each individual will need to perform. This is expected to be the real eventual solution to scaling." [10:03]
mircea_popescu hurr durr. i'm sure it will be the eventual solution to "scaling", for any value of scaling = [10:04]
assbot Logged on 21-12-2015 15:29:29; mircea_popescu: "hands off our cattle!" [10:04]
BingoBoingo lowercase war, not War [10:04]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, on one hand fair is fair and on the other hand not only is it not our cattle, we don't fucking want to herd cattle in the first place. so... [10:04]
mircea_popescu usg found its level. [10:04]
mircea_popescu interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work <<< quite. [10:05]
mircea_popescu i suppose it's based on how they judge their ability to comprehend wtf alf did. "this is crazy" "this is batshit insane" "i have no idea wtf this even is" and perhaps other layers. [10:05]
mircea_popescu lol theymos got -39 reddit votes. clearly teh system wurx. [10:07]
mircea_popescu DNS resolution doesn't seem to work << what do you see ? [10:09]
mircea_popescu "Most people would assume I am a walking oxymoron. At least, they would assume the latter part of that word. However, I am here today to give you a glimpse of how it is possible to be a cissexual heterosexual white male intersectional feminist and how I’m living proof. [10:10]
mircea_popescu Many think that Intersectional Feminism is at odds with cis het white men. This stems from the fact" [10:10]
mircea_popescu ahahahaha [10:10]
mircea_popescu THAT is the problem. idiot imagines what sane people will choke on is the notion that she's a dumbass feminist. [10:10]
mircea_popescu no, that's not the issue. the issue is that a dumbass feminist who ate enough so you can't distinguish her wasp bites from man boobs imagines herself a "homosexual male". [10:11]
mircea_popescu you ain't homosexual or a male, sweetie. you're just a girl with too much loose change in her brainbox. [10:11]
* BingoBoingo still waiting for the levorotary/dexrotary gender crISIS [10:11]
davout mircea_popescu: now it works, also nice DNS servers, ten points to gryffyndor [10:12]
mircea_popescu :) [10:12]
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mircea_popescu is gryffyndor good ? [10:13]
mircea_popescu and could it be lyf yn whor ? [10:13]
BingoBoingo I think they are the goody too shoed bitch ones [10:13]
davout the sky's the limit [10:14]
mircea_popescu that's what they said back at camp when we were doing the piss up tree competition. [10:14]
* BingoBoingo forgets which one stomped colons all day [10:14]
BingoBoingo Gotta piss up tree or else gets on shoes [10:14]
mircea_popescu (btw, is this known universally or just ro junior high amusement ? buncha kids get around tree, see who pisses on it the highest ?) [10:14]
mircea_popescu "Why I NEVER Tip White Waiters If you want to teach someone something, it is usually best to do it over and over." [10:15]
BingoBoingo universal [10:16]
mircea_popescu bahwhahahahaha. random douche who thinks "waiters" = the douches just like him moving around tgi tuesdays is going to TEACH something, by repeating it over and over. an' thart something ain't gonna be "this fat poor sucker's also a jerk". it's gonna be something else. because he's the not so little train engine that can! [10:16]
mircea_popescu here's a rough rule of thumb : if the guy bringing you your donut is making below minimum wage, he is BY DEFINITION of the terms "minimum wage" and "waiter" NOT a waiter. because being a waiter IS A PROFESSION, just like being a computer engineer or a driver. meanwhile minimum wage is reserved for UNSKILLED!!! labour. like webstack developers and singer-songwriter-tablewaiters. [10:18]
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mircea_popescu and this is kinda also what powers the "uber revolution" : if you're willing to go from drivers to unskilled labour, you may "save" a little change off your ride and uber can make a killing. [10:20]
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mircea_popescu Update: Shortly after reading my post, Willem Pinckaers pointed out that the reseed_system_prng function sets the global variable system_prng_bufpos to 32. This means that after the first invocation of this function, the for loop right after the reseed call in system_prng_gen_block never executes. Hence, the ANSI X9.31 PRNG code is completely non-functional. [10:21]
mircea_popescu lol ok. [10:21]
mircea_popescu "Apparently Juniper only realised this recently and not when they were issuing KB28205." yaya. [10:23]
BingoBoingo [10:25]
assbot University of Alabama quietly testing fraternity brothers for drugs | ... ( ) [10:25]
mircea_popescu lol [10:25]
BingoBoingo "There’s this one fraternity—really well-known on campus, attracted a lot of attention—that started getting drug-tested and it’s still talked about how this fraternity went from, like, a group of guys who functioned normally and held high position among the university and then they all just became ‘bartards’—that’s the term for people who eat Xanax bars. They all went from just, you know, regular college guys to ju [10:25]
BingoBoingo st zombies, all doing Xanax because they couldn’t smoke pot and stuff so it was the only thing they could do." [10:25]
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mircea_popescu huh [10:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00049648 = 6.7025 BTC [+] {3} [10:30]
BingoBoingo Just imagine. You take away all the drugs they can handle and they gotta resort to drugs they don't know wtf to do with. [10:30]
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mircea_popescu why the fuck would they take xanax in the first place. [10:32]
BingoBoingo Because available and the rappers are doing it. [10:33]
BingoBoingo Or mebbe to teach the Uni a lesson when the civil suits come because a bunch of frat bros were popping xanax and buttchugging vodka now that their weed is gone. [10:34]
mod6 heh buttchugging [10:35]
BingoBoingo Apparently its popular. I always thought it was a myth. [10:36]
mircea_popescu no chance for psych medication to go the way of tobacco, is there ? [10:38]
mircea_popescu "oh, but it helps people. it calms my nerves!" was iirc the state-of-the-art in tobacco "critiquing" for about a century. [10:39]
BingoBoingo Not really. And really benzos like Xanax are the "safer" tranquilizers. [10:40]
BingoBoingo [10:40]
assbot moderation in moderation ... ( ) [10:40]
BingoBoingo The benzodiazepine revolution has happened, and it's going to be a while before it can get stigma'd out like tobacco. [10:42]
BingoBoingo If only because all the other tranquilizers like miltown and thalidomide are so much easier to pile on to. "Miltown, what kind of drug has bezoars as a side effect?" [10:43]
mircea_popescu "the western world - a place so miserable teenage suicide is still the exception, but teenage cns depressant medication the rule" [10:44]
mircea_popescu anyone ever wondered what every kid being a reefer says about their country ? [10:45]
mircea_popescu or is that something only the soviets would notice. [10:45]
BingoBoingo I nearly forgot we linked earleir this classic on backdoor miltown getting real popular for a while [10:45]
assbot The Angry Pharmacist » Blog Archive » SOMABOTS, TRANSFORM! ... ( ) [10:45]
BingoBoingo Only the soviets would notice. [10:46]
BingoBoingo Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now. [10:47]
mircea_popescu Meprobamate << amusingly, this was widely dispensed for... ulcer. [10:47]
mircea_popescu back in the 80s. [10:47]
BingoBoingo Well, yeah. Bezoar in stomach actually gets along well with ulcer [10:48]
mircea_popescu lol [10:49]
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punkman [11:05]
assbot ... ( ) [11:05]
BingoBoingo Wait who buttchugs beer. All that carbonation and foam... [11:06]
punkman looks like cough syrup [11:06]
shinohai Purple drank [11:06]
BingoBoingo Oh, a kind of Trilema is back online [11:13]
BingoBoingo [11:13]
punkman [11:14]
assbot World’s most ‘adorable drug kingpin’ is actually the daughter of Texas DEA head honcho ... ( ) [11:14]
mircea_popescu hahaha [11:15]
mircea_popescu o look at that, the dea's a fief. [11:16]
mircea_popescu why "head honcho" and not the more common "czar" ? [11:16]
mircea_popescu or is that only-when-good-things. [11:16]
BingoBoingo czars are appointees. Honchos come up through the bottom. [11:21]
punkman [11:21]
assbot Reports: radiation and chemo may cause cancer, cannabis may cure it ... ( ) [11:21]
mircea_popescu o is that how it works. [11:22]
mircea_popescu <<< o lord have mercy. [11:22]
assbot php - Error with .htaccess and mod_rewrite - Stack Overflow ... ( ) [11:22]
BingoBoingo Yeah. Czars go to Yale and Honchos either come from A&M or community college [11:22]
mircea_popescu they changed how shit works because why not ? [11:22]
punkman I always wonder how people end up with that kind of title mismatch [11:23]
punkman mircea_popescu: wow that's retarded [11:25]
mircea_popescu no shit. [11:25]
mircea_popescu revolutionarizing! [11:25]
liquidassets Engaging meatwot fun [11:30]
mircea_popescu omfg and 5mb of error log. [11:30]
* mircea_popescu replaces E_ALL & ~E_NOTICE & ~E_DEPRECATED & ~E_STRICT that apparently GETS IGNORED ANYWAY with E_ERROR and fu. [11:32]
mircea_popescu jesus php is a pos. [11:32]
BingoBoingo that face [11:41]
assbot ... ( ) [11:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00049654 = 3.1779 BTC [+] [11:41]
mircea_popescu motherfucker it will not stop. [11:43]
mircea_popescu so i edited fucking php ini, restarted the whole shebang, it STILL spits its dumbass warnings and notices omfg. [11:43]
BingoBoingo oh qntra has its style sheet back [11:46]
asciilifeform << i don't see any overlap [11:51]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 06:37:41; ben_vulpes: interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work [11:51]
asciilifeform << the 'research subpoenaed from cmu' cover is lulzy [11:53]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 10:37:14; BingoBoingo: [11:53]
asciilifeform << i've used it 5x so far. once it was a fraud (see logz) and got refund. the other 4, it was dour iranian drivers every bit as good as a 'normal' cabbie. which brings us to the very real 'fat' that there was to be trimmed from cab fare in usa: amortized cost of medallion passed to the customer, and other idiocies that uber nuked [11:56]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:17:24; mircea_popescu: and this is kinda also what powers the "uber revolution" : if you're willing to go from drivers to unskilled labour, you may "save" a little change off your ride and uber can make a killing. [11:56]
asciilifeform ('uber' is about 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of a 'normal' cab in wash dc region) [11:56]
mircea_popescu aha. [11:56]
mircea_popescu this is the path to failure : first, professionals want to do less work for the same money ; then, parasites move in to do the same work, for less money. and the lemon cycle persists. [11:57]
asciilifeform in english lands it was called 'scab' [11:57]
mircea_popescu the fundamental argentinian-ness of the human mind, "oh, ok, this is what i get paid, now how could i move down what i gottaq do for it ?" really needs the british imperial "fuck you, you don't eat" as typified by lord newton. [11:57]
mircea_popescu but none of this changes the fact that waiter is an actual profession. [11:58]
asciilifeform surely [11:58]
punkman relevant [11:58]
assbot No Cookies | ... ( ) [11:58]
mircea_popescu so a bunch of idiot americans band together, agree to not learn, and expect teacher to "throw the curve". [11:58]
mircea_popescu fine. so ? learning's still learning, whether he does or doesn't. [11:58]
mircea_popescu so php has a "ignore repeated location / type of error" dual switch. which inexplicably comes NOT THROWN. because yeah, this is totally logical, if someone doesn't care about one instance you gotta provide them with infinity instances of the same thing. idiots. [12:00]
mircea_popescu so then you throw the switch and watch in amazement as... nothing happens. [12:00]
mircea_popescu it looks like trilema's going to get moved off php at this rate. [12:00]
asciilifeform mega-unsurprise [12:00]
asciilifeform sop in open sores [12:00]
asciilifeform << aaaand Official Truth proclaims that the thing was not a usg op getting burned. aha, who wants to buy bridge ? [12:01]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:18:03; mircea_popescu: Update: Shortly after reading my post, Willem Pinckaers pointed out that the reseed_system_prng function sets the global variable system_prng_bufpos to 32. This means that after the first invocation of this function, the for loop right after the reseed call in system_prng_gen_block never executes. Hence, the ANSI X9.31 PRNG code is completely non-functional. [12:01]
asciilifeform << tobacco went the way of tobacco to make room for new dopez [12:02]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:35:38; mircea_popescu: no chance for psych medication to go the way of tobacco, is there ? [12:02]
asciilifeform and for no other reason [12:02]
asciilifeform << they don't wait until puberty to start'em on dope, either [12:03]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:41:35; mircea_popescu: "the western world - a place so miserable teenage suicide is still the exception, but teenage cns depressant medication the rule" [12:03]
asciilifeform see also [12:04]
assbot Logged on 29-10-2015 21:25:28; ascii_field: they do 5 y.o. and possibly below, now [12:04]
asciilifeform << dope is a very handy answer to a terminally ill society [12:06]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 13:43:50; BingoBoingo: Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now. [12:06]
asciilifeform su never invented a good dope for ambulatory (outpatient) zombiefication [12:07]
asciilifeform (other than old-fashioned booze) [12:08]
asciilifeform most of the mega-breakthroughs in this field were in 1980s usa. [12:08]
* mircea_popescu both turned off error logging altogether as well as specified they should be saved in /dev/null [12:09]
mircea_popescu with baited breath i await to discover this also does nothing [12:09]
asciilifeform (much earlier us pharma triumphs, e.g., diazepam, did catch on - to a degree - in su, but not mega-hits) [12:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25550 @ 0.00049655 = 12.6869 BTC [+] {2} [12:15]
mircea_popescu holy shit, turning off error reporting altogehter took! [12:20]
mircea_popescu hey, congrats dumbasses, pushing the attentionwhoring angle got +1 people to ignore you altogether. how's that for epic success! [12:21]
liquidassets GOOD MORNING ASSETERS 11 [12:22]
assbot NOFX - Dinosaurs will die (Lyrics) - YouTube ... ( ) [12:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00049667 = 5.811 BTC [+] {3} [12:25]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski [12:35]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:35]
assbot dpaste: 3PXSBHX ... ( ) [12:35]
liquidassets Pay attention to your weaknesses long enough and they'll turn into your greatest strengths. [12:57]
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liquidassets ~TMSR Made Me [13:32]
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trinque calm down, timmy. [13:38]
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ascii_field << possible useful tool for boost removal in trb [15:04]
assbot LLVM Project Blog: Status of the C++11 Migrator ... ( ) [15:04]
ascii_field (ast munger) [15:04]
ascii_field ;;later tell mircea_popescu << mega-lulz re: Run Moar Winblowz. 'how to sneak into president's villa at 5am' [15:08]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:08]
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ascii_field ^ summary: random bozo pops a box, turns out to contain src for underwater alarm system at mega-palace, full of backdoorz [15:12]
ascii_field if this is a sham, it is a quality sham. [15:13]
ascii_field << baikal electronics corp. claims $60 mips cpu to compete with 'elbrus' (which i have been unable to buy at any price on this side of the ocean) [15:17]
assbot Массовое производство первого российского процессора Baikal-T1 запустят в начале 2016 года / Geektimes ... ( ) [15:17]
ascii_field lastly in re nyoooooz, [15:19]
ascii_field >> while idiot west demolishes nuke plants, ru builds. and next to one - data centre promised to hold up to 10,000 full racks. [15:20]
assbot ... ( ) [15:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00050001 = 2.9001 BTC [+] {2} [15:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.00050002 = 2.2001 BTC [+] [15:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00050049 = 15.1648 BTC [+] {3} [15:56]
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jurov ultimate backdoor protection! [16:13]
jurov new from mempool taming dept: actually the biggest memory bloat, hidden in various vector operations is caused by mapRelay [16:17]
jurov which purpose is still not 100% clear to me, seems an inventory what we're going to relay to whom [16:18]
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mircea_popescu << baikal electronics corp. claims $60 mips cpu to compete with 'elbrus' (which i have been unable to buy at any price on this side of the ocean) << they don't practically exist, on either side of ocean. so far all signs point to "elaborate self-scam" [16:35]
assbot Массовое производство первого российского процессора Baikal-T1 запустят в начале 2016 года / Geektimes ... ( ) [16:35]
mircea_popescu jurov who's ben diken ? [16:35]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla there ? [16:35]
jurov no idea [16:36]
mircea_popescu << this is actually very close to irl. [16:37]
assbot ... ( ) [16:37]
mircea_popescu incidentally i would LOVE to see maprelay excised entirely. [16:38]
punkman does it do anything besides increasing attack surface? [16:38]
mircea_popescu never made sense to anyone, that shit. [16:38]
mircea_popescu punkman nope. [16:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00050012 = 2.5256 BTC [+] [16:38]
punkman "elaborate self-scam" or "good things for good people"? [16:38]
mircea_popescu i doubt the thing actually works, atm, is all. [16:39]
mircea_popescu if you recall the ever-so useful "quantum computer" that was going to do things just as long as you ... you know, let the specialists do it. [16:39]
kakobrekla yes? [16:39]
mircea_popescu exactly equivalent to "experiments" that only work in the kook's lab. [16:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00049642 = 8.4888 BTC [-] {3} [16:54]
asciilifeform !up ascii_field [17:00]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: dwave corp. [17:00]
mircea_popescu right [17:00]
mircea_popescu in other news, "blocks" : 182731, [17:01]
ascii_field jurov et al: mapRelay is used to rebroadcast tx, incl. wallet (own) tx [17:03]
mircea_popescu 03:21:07 122106 19:58:23 182731 so 60625 / 881 or 68.8 blocks/min [17:03]
ascii_field [17:03]
assbot Satoshi asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected identifier search: RelayMessage ... ( ) [17:03]
mircea_popescu ascii_field but it doesn't hjave to br. [17:03]
mircea_popescu be* [17:03]
ascii_field in the same sense that other garbage 'doesn't have to be' [17:04]
ascii_field e.g. openssl [17:04]
ascii_field but this is not a wart that can be snipped off without any serious work [17:05]
ascii_field now the Advert* crud - yes [17:05]
ascii_field (afaik it actually gets optimized out by gcc, even, as dead code) [17:06]
mircea_popescu i know [17:07]
mircea_popescu nevertheless... [17:07]
ascii_field incidentally, i've concluded that 'boost' can be sawed out and replaced with a modicum of c++11ism relatively painlessly [17:07]
jurov i am tentatively erasing it (together with vRelayExpiration) in JettisonMempool, so far no obvious problems [17:07]
ascii_field jurov: neato [17:08]
mircea_popescu both of these lines sound fab. [17:08]
ascii_field how about the problem of this operation not actually reclaiming memory ? [17:08]
ascii_field or was this resolved while i slept [17:08]
mircea_popescu one saltspoon at a time. [17:08]
jurov oh, also it finally does reclaim memory [17:08]
mircea_popescu o.O [17:08]
ascii_field oh? [17:09]
jurov after this last step is done [17:09]
mircea_popescu no wai. [17:09]
* ascii_field looks forward to ml post [17:09]
mircea_popescu jurov has broken into the republican piggybank, bought out dark markets! [17:09]
jurov add this into JettisonMempool just before malloc_trim(): [17:12]
jurov CRITICAL_BLOCK(cs_mapRelay){ [17:12]
jurov vRelayExpiration.erase(vRelayExpiration.begin(),vRelayExpiration.end()); [17:12]
jurov mapRelay.erase(mapRelay.begin(),mapRelay.end()); } [17:12]
ascii_field jurov: why would this deallocate tx ? [17:13]
jurov the CDataStream contains serialized tx [17:13]
jurov so in fact, a second mempool [17:13]
ascii_field woah [17:14]
ascii_field so do we see a return to baseline+300byte*blockheight heap size after the nuke ? [17:15]
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jurov yes, looks like it's very close now [17:16]
ascii_field mighty spiffy [17:16]
ascii_field this also means that fragging can be dealt with using 'stop&copy' aka semispace gc [17:17]
ascii_field (deallocate all tx, while throwing them into a fresh mempool) [17:17]
ascii_field the time to do this is, obviously, when a block comes [17:18]
ascii_field (when a good portion of this work is being done anyway) [17:18]
mircea_popescu aha. [17:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27329 @ 0.00049547 = 13.5407 BTC [-] {2} [17:20]
ascii_field << usg lulz [17:23]
assbot Here’s the Reason The FAA’s Drone Registration System Doesn’t Make Sense | Hackaday ... ( ) [17:23]
mircea_popescu motherfucker. dig @ status: NOERROR; dig @ status: NOERROR ; dig ? status: SERVFAIL [17:26]
mircea_popescu fucking hell and who ever came up with this bullshit. [17:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29340 @ 0.00049871 = 14.6322 BTC [+] {3} [17:28]
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mod6 ascii_field: << So I'm gonna be putting just the sha512 hashes of BDB/Boost/OpenSSL .tar.gz files in a manifest that will be added into 'V'. [17:32]
assbot Logged on 20-12-2015 22:22:31; mod6: so just to be clear, so I'm not holding anything up here; hashes of the following tarballs in V: BDB, openssl, and boost. [17:32]
mod6 !up ascii_field [17:32]
mod6 should we place that file in the 'bitcoin' dir, or any thoughts on where this file should reside? [17:32]
mircea_popescu mod6 could the default be that all dirs are made under whatever dir runs the rotor script ? [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31669 @ 0.00050065 = 15.8551 BTC [+] {2} [17:35]
mod6 currently, what is required is that you execute the rotor+V+TEST2 script that I wrote, and then it'll create a 'rotor' dir in that present working directory. then you'll end up with like: rotor/TEST2/bitcoin/src/ [17:35]
mod6 Is that what you're asking? [17:36]
mircea_popescu does it look for .wot there too ? [17:36]
mod6 this Manifest we're talking about creating would need to fit somewhere in the directory structure of bitcoin itself, if it is to be 'v'-ified. [17:36]
mod6 no, .wot can be wherever you want it to be. [17:37]
mod6 well... [17:37]
mod6 in the context of the script, it'd have to be altered in the script to say place the .wot in .../rotor so you'd have /.../rotor/.wot/ [17:37]
trinque seems like the contents of can easily be pasted into the bottom of the outermost script. [17:38]
mircea_popescu no, it can't. [17:38]
mod6 and the subsequent commands would just do something like `./ p TEST2 vpatchnameforhead wd /.../rotor/.wot` or something. [17:38]
mircea_popescu anyway, directory structure could use some fixing. [17:38]
mircea_popescu my personal ideal would be that ALL directories involved in this without exception are spawned as subdirs of whatever current dir the script ran in. [17:39]
mod6 the whole way that the 'orchestra' gets built, has to be that way for this minute. but certainly can change going forward. [17:39]
mod6 it basically just grabs all of these different things and then pieces it together. [17:39]
mircea_popescu aha [17:40]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> my personal ideal would be that ALL directories involved in this without exception are spawned as subdirs of whatever current dir the script ran in. << this makes sense. right now you end up with /.../rotor/ and ~/.wot, and ~/.seals iirc. [17:40]
mod6 but this could change. [17:40]
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mod6 anyway my question to ascii_field, jurov, et. al. is: given we create a manifest, where should it live in the context of the bitcoin source tree itself [17:41]
mod6 the rotor is out of the scope of that part. [17:41]
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mod6 this weekend I'm thinking that I can get that done, and droped into the ML & V, etc. [17:42]
mod6 and probably can post the release vpatch to the ML also. [17:42]
mod6 so those would be the last 2 things that would go into V itself. [17:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28944 @ 0.00049547 = 14.3409 BTC [-] {2} [17:43]
mircea_popescu the manifest should live wherever the lives neh ? [17:44]
mircea_popescu at least that's where i'd go looking for it [17:44]
mod6 the interesting part about dropping in a manifest file is that i'll be off on its own as its own root and its own leaf since it'll have no decendents or antecedants. [17:44]
mod6 but it'll also have to be grabbed by the release vpatch so it gets included. [17:44]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> the manifest should live wherever the lives neh ? << I would argue that all of these scripts would live outside of bitcoin source V tree. [17:45]
mircea_popescu hm. [17:45]
mircea_popescu wait. what ?! [17:45]
trinque does not make sense to separate the build system from the thing being built. what other project does that? [17:46]
mod6 hmm. well, ok. [17:47]
mircea_popescu idea here is to a degree that V is a universal builder [17:47]
mod6 I guess I can see it that way. [17:47]
mircea_popescu then it'll have to some degree be separated from what it builds [17:47]
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mod6 We're a lot farther from release than I had thought then. [17:47]
trinque V yes, I see V the version control system kinda being conflated with this builder making use of V [17:48]
mod6 Because all of those scripts need to be re-written. [17:48]
mircea_popescu mod6 but this manifest... wouldn't you say it's of the nature of the sigils ? [17:48]
trinque V certainly is its own thing [17:48]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: [17:48]
ascii_field ;;later tell BingoBoingo (or anybody else who was awake last night) << i found the datasheets for all the ics. most of'em are shift registers [17:48]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:48]
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assbot Фото - Без названия #9 ... ( ) [17:48]
ascii_field so the thing was something like a su version of a stream cipherator [17:49]
ascii_field using fuck knows what kind of scheme [17:49]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> mod6 but this manifest... wouldn't you say it's of the nature of the sigils ? << im not sure i understand this. [17:49]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski done and done. [17:50]
mircea_popescu so about as useless as piss. [17:50]
pete_dushenski :D [17:50]
trinque mod6: do you want help with any of this? I am comfortable with my bash-fu. [17:51]
trinque script as is works very well; I'm just offering some janitorial services. [17:51]
mod6 anyone in my wot in L1 can contribue. [17:51]
trinque I'll give it some love today then. [17:52]
mod6 so i can see having a say, /.../bitcoin/build/ directory or something where the scripts/config files for buildroot/and everything else/ exist and can be pressed out. [17:53]
mod6 but there's a fair chunk of stuff to do there. [17:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31232 @ 0.00049511 = 15.4633 BTC [-] {6} [17:54]
mod6 in this case, the order of operations when building: press out a V 'branch', cd to the build directory (or somewhere in the pressed out tree), kick off the building of buildroot & everything. [17:55]
mircea_popescu another thing that was disconcerting was having binaries in a /src dir [17:56]
ascii_field that's a bitcoinism [17:56]
mod6 oh the output binary for bitcoin? [17:56]
mircea_popescu neverthe....more. [17:56]
mircea_popescu yeah [17:56]
trinque {src,contrib,build} etc ? [17:56]
mod6 yeah, i'd vote to change that at a different time. [17:56]
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mod6 just because that makefile can get a bit hairy. but we can put it on the list. [17:57]
pete_dushenski hmm 6 btc against trump for republican nomination in just the last day and a half, what are these people on ? [17:57]
trinque it's not as though I'm debugging c++ at the moment. [17:57]
mod6 <+trinque> {src,contrib,build} etc ? << 'contrib' in the sense of distfiles from say BDB/Boost/OpenSSL? [17:58]
trinque yep [17:58]
trinque or deps, whatever [17:58]
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mod6 'dist' would be fine with me. i see no problem with 'contrib' either. [17:58]
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mod6 better ask juorv ;) [17:59]
mod6 jurov [17:59]
mircea_popescu or 'shit' for that matter. [17:59]
ascii_field ^ [17:59]
trinque lol [17:59]
mod6 that would be pretty hilarious actualy. [17:59]
mircea_popescu aha. these are your father's contrishitubtions. [18:00]
jurov why ask me? [18:01]
mircea_popescu cuz everyone's in awe of your recent memorymagicks ? [18:02]
mircea_popescu go forth and name a directory! [18:02]
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mod6 i need to get up to speed on ADA [19:29]
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mircea_popescu mod6 apparently it can make code that can be pulled into c [19:29]
ascii_field all gcc .o can be linked together ! [19:30]
ascii_field this is elementary [19:30]
ascii_field gcc doesn't give a flying fuck whether c, cpp, fortran, ada, objc [19:30]
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mircea_popescu aha [19:30]
ascii_field caveat is that you oughtn't expect cpp tardisms (weird data structures) to port [19:31]
ascii_field but other than this, if you stick to machine types, works [19:31]
mircea_popescu << i can see it. [19:32]
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mod6 i think since that post, we talked about changing 'build' to 'rotor'. thoughts? [19:33]
mircea_popescu can see it. [19:34]
punkman /me prefers less cryptic names overall [19:34]
mod6 ok cool [19:34]
mod6 i think 'build' is sort of non-ambigious [19:34]
punkman seals vs sigs for example [19:34]
mod6 i like the idea of a seal in that example though, because its like an official embossment. [19:35]
mod6 i stamp out a seal. [19:35]
mod6 i guess it could/might have to -- this alteration will change the way we build everything currently. [19:36]
jurov even if they were v-ifiable, i'd prefer to split them [19:36]
ascii_field blobs ? [19:37]
mircea_popescu << binary in bin ; source in src ; shit in shit. stick to it, live long and be happy. [19:37]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 21:37:00; ascii_field: bitcoin/bin [19:37]
jurov "The shit: BDB, Boost, OpenSSL & the MANIFEST for turds" [19:37]
mod6 they'd be like: bitcoin/shit/openssl/ bitcoin/shit/bdb/ bitcoin/shit/openssl/ or are you saying something different about splitting jurov ? [19:37]
jurov ^ i read it as "the tarballs" [19:37]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo et al ^^ qntra ? << will read [19:38]
mircea_popescu turdballs lol [19:38]
jurov oh it's going to be all unpacked there? [19:38]
ascii_field !s turdballs [19:38]
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mod6 <+jurov> oh it's going to be all unpacked there? << yeah, perhaps not. currently i extract & build all that stuff under 'rotor'. i guess shit should just be: <+jurov> "The shit: BDB, Boost, OpenSSL & the MANIFEST for turds" <- this stuff the turdballs and the manifest. [19:39]
mod6 then the build script can move that stuff over as needed? [19:40]
mircea_popescu <<< bringing up roger ver is not so unlike trying to bring up the original bruce. the guy's a muppet. [19:40]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 21:52:39; ascii_field: l0l waitasec they're ph0rk3d nice & proper already ? [19:40]
mircea_popescu in this case, he's discussing "the testnet", which is another way of saying "the ducklings in his bath" [19:40]
BingoBoingo nyooz to me << You gotta listen to KMOX in the car. Keeps you up with fiat paranoia [19:40]
jurov mod6 depends if wwe're going to vpatch these, too [19:41]
mod6 "these" as in 'V'-ifiy the turds? [19:41]
mod6 we're not going to do that, we're just gonna create a manifest with their proper SHA512 hashes. [19:42]
jurov and what part of the directory structure will come from v press? [19:42]
mircea_popescu word mod6 [19:43]
jurov if all of it, then obv the turdballs will live out of it [19:43]
mod6 the whole thing [19:43]
mircea_popescu this "patches get sigils, shit gets a serial number" approach very neatly and intuitively draws the all-important difference. [19:43]
mircea_popescu people kept saying in log how they don't wanna sign the crap. and i readily see why. [19:44]
trinque jurov: the turdballs don't have to be vpatched to get put into directories which were created via vpatch [19:44]
trinque distfiles/.keep or whatever [19:44]
trinque or better yet distfiles/README [19:44]
trinque I'm sorry, shit/README [19:44]
mircea_popescu trinque brace yourself for when this, like so many other b-a originated crazy, actually takes over your life and you start renaming dirs to /shit/ in githobs. [19:45]
trinque heh, it will undoubtably come [19:45]
mod6 so i think jurov has a good question; if we don't drop the turdballs into V, which we're not, and the MANIFEST is the only thing in the 'shit' directory that is pressed out by 'V', where do the tarballs come from? [19:46]
mod6 They will be mirrored on [19:46]
jurov and other mirrors [19:46]
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mod6 sure. [19:47]
mod6 does this all sound okie dokie then? [19:47]
mod6 and beyond this with V, if we create a 'Compact Disk' of all of this, we can just stick the trinity of turds in 'shit' along with buildroot and whatever it needs. [19:49]
mod6 or something to that effect. we can cross that bridge later. [19:50]
mod6 anyway, thanks all. good talk. bbs. [19:51]
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ascii_field >>><<< [20:18]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 22:40:28; mircea_popescu: this "patches get sigils, shit gets a serial number" approach very neatly and intuitively draws the all-important difference. [20:18]
assbot Logged on 20-12-2015 22:05:32; asciilifeform: v the tarball hashes. [20:18]
ascii_field << the cd ! [20:19]
assbot Logged on 22-12-2015 22:43:02; mod6: so i think jurov has a good question; if we don't drop the turdballs into V, which we're not, and the MANIFEST is the only thing in the 'shit' directory that is pressed out by 'V', where do the tarballs come from? [20:19]
ascii_field which, incidentally, also ought to contain other useful goodies [20:19]
ascii_field e.g., pubkeys [20:19]
ascii_field and possibly blog mirrors for some folks [20:19]
ascii_field (anyone game?) [20:19]
ascii_field and other items enemy might like to magick away one day [20:20]
ascii_field or silently diddle [20:20]
ascii_field said disk also being, naturally, bootable [20:21]
ascii_field and containing src for all of itself. [20:21]
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pete_dushenski ;;later tell BingoBoingo q to the n to the t to the r to the a : [20:25]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:25]
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BingoBoingo pete_dushenski: It's Hussein Bahamas, not Barry [20:26]
pete_dushenski pfff [20:27]
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pete_dushenski i like the alliteration [20:27]
pete_dushenski also, 'barry bahamas' sounds closer to godawful floral silk t-shirt maker 'tommy bahamas' [20:28]
pete_dushenski which is also, conveniently, from hawaii [20:28]
BingoBoingo But Barry hides his secret muslim history in Kenya and Chiraq [20:29]
pete_dushenski "Once upon a time, 4,000 to 8,000 years after humanity invented agriculture, something very strange happened to human reproduction. Across the globe, for every 17 women who were reproducing, passing on genes that are still around today—only one man did the same." [20:29]
pete_dushenski ""It wasn't like there was a mass death of males. They were there, so what were they doing?" asks Melissa Wilson Sayres, a computational biologist at Arizona State University, and a member of a group of scientists who uncovered this moment in prehistory by analyzing modern genes." [20:30]
pete_dushenski ^bwahahaha [20:30]
pete_dushenski "where did all the dicks go ?! it's like a virus killed them all !" [20:30]
pete_dushenski yes, hun, the virus is called [20:30]
pete_dushenski 'stupidity' [20:30]
pete_dushenski try not to catch, wouldja [20:31]
pete_dushenski catch it* [20:31]
pete_dushenski,cs_srgb,w_620/MTI4ODMwNDQ5ODU3MzY5MzYy.png << visualised [20:31]
assbot ... ( ) [20:31]
pete_dushenski or maybe that, with agriculture, came larger communities and more ready revelation of inherent inequalities between men [20:32]
pete_dushenski before women could only choose from the losers in their little band or tribe. [20:32]
pete_dushenski but in cities, they could pick from the cream of the crop ! [20:33]
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assbot Chemical tanker truck bursts, spews nauseous orange fumes near playground (VIDEO) — RT News ... ( ) [20:45]
BingoBoingo That tree prolly isn't going to make it [20:45]
BingoBoingo ;;ud bfrc [20:48]
gribble Google found nothing. [20:48]
BingoBoingo the opposition [20:55]
assbot PSA: faction-wide buffs are determined by the INT and WIS of your faction's leaders. Please stop electing faction leaders on the basis of CHA. : outside ... ( ) [20:55]
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punkman what, obama had charisma? or maybe trump does? [21:04]
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BingoBoingo trump does. he's a tv show [21:18]
* BingoBoingo forced that edit on pete_dushenski because gotta dehumanize politicians even if they seem lulzy atm [21:18]
BingoBoingo From mines: "5 minutes after crossing the bridge I got out of my meditative trance and thought for the first time "Where the hell am I?" And then I sort of panicked. There were no signs or people around, just muddy countryside. Having seen all the documentaries and read all the articles about North Korea, I prayed I had not just inadvertently wandered into the Hermit Kingdom. And still the idea was so laughable, I seriously didn't [21:21]
BingoBoingo believe it would have been that simple to cross into and keep going without being stopped. But out of panic I turned around and walked back to the bridge telling myself I was a paranoid pussy. I called my friend on the phone walking back and told him where I walked roughly and he just screamed at me to "STOP TALKING AND RUN BACK ACROSS THE BRIDGE NOW"." [21:21]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [21:21]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 435.04, Best ask: 435.54, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 435.62, 24 hour volume: 18399.5069656, 24 hour low: 433.0, 24 hour high: 443.64, 24 hour vwap: None [21:21]
BingoBoingo Not safe for lyf [21:35]
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danielpbarron >> Luckily, most of them are so heavily invested in cryptocurrencies that the best they could afford was a Mosin Nagant, a measly relic, Soviet war surplus direct from Stalingrad. << someone reads the log! [22:06]
assbot Bitcoin Runs On Altruism ... ( ) [22:06]
asciilifeform the lulzy part is that the nagant in the logs is ~not~ the mosin-nagant [22:11]
asciilifeform but the nagant revolver. [22:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33902 @ 0.00049579 = 16.8083 BTC [+] {3} [22:12]
asciilifeform also an arshin is an imperial ru measure [22:12]
asciilifeform and not 'commie' in any sense [22:12]
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pete_dushenski heya bryan bishop [22:18]
pete_dushenski how go the 'capacity increases' ? [22:18]
kanzure sup [22:18]
pete_dushenski << more caucasians ditching usdollar [22:21]
assbot Azerbaijani Manat Buckles After Government Drops Dollar Peg - WSJ ... ( ) [22:21]
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pete_dushenski !gettrust kanzure [22:25]
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pete_dushenski ^another bigger blockhead, apparently [22:26]
danielpbarron << related [22:28]
pete_dushenski !gettrust dexx7 [22:28]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2015 02:02:19; midnightmagic: dude. seriously plotting or fomenting the physical murder of the USG is sedition, insurrection, and various related crimes and there's no fucking way I'm interested in being associated with it just because I'm lurking in here. [22:28]
assbot Trust relationship from user pete_dushenski to user dexx7: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | | [22:28]
pete_dushenski danielpbarron: heh. quite related. [22:28]
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mircea_popescu does this all sound okie dokie then? << far as i can tell ye [22:59]
mircea_popescu and possibly blog mirrors for some folks << actually i'm writing a major piece for trilema, bbs. [23:00]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:22]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 437.34, Best ask: 437.69, Bid-ask spread: 0.35000, Last trade: 437.69, 24 hour volume: 18711.95214868, 24 hour low: 433.0, 24 hour high: 443.64, 24 hour vwap: None [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23700 @ 0.00049552 = 11.7438 BTC [-] [23:33]
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