Forum logs for 22 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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mircea_popescu	i can see that	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	still... legend is a ways off.	[00:00]
thestringpuller	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg <- some of his stuff is neat...(or is it)?	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	wences :	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	;;market buy 20900	[00:02]
gribble	A market order to buy 20900 bitcoins right now would take 2764990.5722 USD and would take the last price up to 139.6900 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.2962 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds	[00:02]
wences	thank you!	[00:02]
wences	you don't forget anything, do you? :)	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	i have people halping me :D	[00:03]
wences	Maybe you ARE many people; some with a beard, some without...	[00:03]
kakobrekla	hehe	[00:03]
thestringpuller	every 5 days	[00:04]
thestringpuller	kakobrekla and mircea_popescu switch places	[00:04]
kakobrekla	wha?	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	wences incidentally, seems you're the most recognisable face of the bildercoin.	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/#comment-92857	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	took less thna a day	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	(course mpoe-pr was recognised on sight but it's not really a fair comparison given the audience)	[00:05]
wences	hahahaha! You should not let people take such wild guesses anonymously	[00:06]
wences	make them show themselves :)	[00:06]
thestringpuller	what's bildercoin...	[00:06]
thestringpuller	wait whaaaa	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	hehe trilema has an old tradition in anonimity.	[00:07]
wences	:)	[00:07]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu what are these pictures from? an expensive dinner?	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[00:09]
thestringpuller	in romania?	[00:09]
thestringpuller	lol	[00:09]
maximian	the second guy on the left looks a bit like evoorhees http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image.jpeg	[00:09]
kakobrekla	the first pic is called "the first supper"	[00:09]
pizzaman1337	and the second pic, "the last supper"?	[00:09]
kakobrekla	nah	[00:10]
thestringpuller	so this was taken before MPEX?	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	maximian right on.	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller no, not before mpex. before yesterday.	[00:10]
b0n1	;;isdown mtgox.com	[00:10]
gribble	Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.	[00:10]
maximian	heh, no shit!	[00:10]
thestringpuller	MPOE-PR is the woman in the red dress	[00:10]
b0n1	;;	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	that's his lovely ex gf, michelle right next to him	[00:10]
b0n1	;; help	[00:10]
gribble	The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/	[00:10]
maximian	ok, so that explains where he's been	[00:11]
b0n1	!facts	[00:11]
thestringpuller	So these homies flew to romania to have dinner with you and smoke pot?	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	we can't afford pot yet.	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	maybe if bitcoin goes up moar.	[00:11]
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b0n1	^^	[00:13]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37167887.jpg	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:14]
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thestringpuller	I forgot Europeans don't celebrate 4/20	[00:17]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [+]	[00:17]
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thestringpuller	ain't nobody got time for that tiberiusiv	[00:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-]	[00:18]
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dub	is that luke two to the left of mircea?	[00:18]
taub	so is there a point in investing in asics?	[00:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09001 BTC [-]	[00:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]	[00:19]
taub	kinda contemplating it, but i think all it will do really is give you a prety small % roi	[00:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08101 BTC [-]	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	luke ?! no luke.	[00:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [-]	[00:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]	[00:19]
thestringpuller	lol mircea_popescu is like a cartoon: wears the same clothes in every picture	[00:19]
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thestringpuller	and always has his collar popped	[00:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.079 BTC [-]	[00:20]
dub	wait is mircea the almish one with the vest and beard or the popped collar white suit guy	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:20]
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thestringpuller	no he's the one in the suit that he's always in	[00:21]
dub	I thought almish at first	[00:21]
thestringpuller	the white suit with the black shirt	[00:21]
thestringpuller	with the popped collar	[00:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [+]	[00:21]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: y u pop yo collar?	[00:21]
mircea_popescu	tis not popped tho.	[00:22]
dub	dat onefixt two to the right	[00:22]
dub	amirite	[00:22]
dub	tux next to him?	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	nope	[00:22]
thestringpuller	;;next	[00:22]
gribble	AWAY UNTIL April 28 resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 \| support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 \| lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 51 seconds ago	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	tux prolly too big to fit in the room.	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	we has limited space in romani.	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	a	[00:23]
gribble	There are currently 32712810 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19862579.1046 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 1102.5192 seconds	[00:23]
thestringpuller	MPOE-PR knows how to dress...	[00:23]
dub	oh its in romania?	[00:23]
thestringpuller	Look at dem shoes	[00:23]
thestringpuller	so visual proof that MPOE-PR is a femme fatale	[00:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.750001 = 3.5 BTC [-]	[00:25]
thestringpuller	(check)	[00:25]
dub	I think youd need a closer inspection to be sure	[00:25]
dub	not sure if not trap	[00:25]
thestringpuller	I've been seduced by enough femme fatales in the film noire phase of my life to know a femme fatale when I see one	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	lol suspicious dub	[00:26]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: what did MPEX's ddos peak at?	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	most i've seen was ~100 gbit.	[00:28]
thestringpuller	daaaamn	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	actual peak possibly higher than that	[00:28]
thestringpuller	that's so much traffic...	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[00:29]
thestringpuller	mtgox was hit with about 77	[00:29]
Scrat	http://www.microguy.net/images/staff.jpg	[00:31]
Scrat	hit by gojirra	[00:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1989 BTC [+]	[00:32]
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mircea_popescu	what's gojira ?	[00:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009998 = 0.1 BTC [-]	[00:33]
Scrat	gohiraaaa	[00:34]
b0n1	;;goxlag	[00:34]
gribble	MtGox lag is 1.102353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00220910306944 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).	[00:34]
thestringpuller	GOOOOOJIRRRRAAAAAAA	[00:36]
thestringpuller	It's how japanese people say Godzilla	[00:36]
thestringpuller	GOJIRAAA	[00:36]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:38]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 122.46307, Best ask: 123.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53693, Last trade: 123.00000, 24 hour volume: 112146.25165570, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.37855	[00:38]
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mircea_popescu	oic	[00:42]
kakobrekla	this ripple name... seems to attract many scams? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JIJ9gemxxD8	[00:44]
kakobrekla	s/name/word	[00:44]
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Namworld	Hmm... anyone would like to take on some BTC-BOND? Someone wants to redeem and I don't feel like buying at these prices...	[00:47]
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Namworld	Guess I'll just have to	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000643 = 0.1286 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000642 = 0.077 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 734 @ 0.000642 = 0.4712 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000641 = 0.3205 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00061 = 0.0305 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1475 @ 0.00061 = 0.8998 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 155 @ 0.000597 = 0.0925 BTC [-]	[00:51]
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kakobrekla	where?	[00:57]
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kakobrekla	silence is golden	[00:59]
kakobrekla	go to otc then	[00:59]
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kakobrekla	switch in between	[01:00]
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kakobrekla	i feel like i dont know him	[01:05]
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kakobrekla	elevator music	[01:06]
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ThickAsThieves	Bruno Mars is the bastard child of Michael Jackson and Elvis	[01:08]
ThickAsThieves	he creeps me out	[01:09]
ThickAsThieves	but yes, he has a nice voice	[01:09]
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ThickAsThieves	to each his own	[01:09]
Scrat	elevator music you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwHjRIlCnU	[01:11]
Scrat	skip to 2:15	[01:14]
Scrat	well thats what my elevator is playing	[01:15]
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dub	guys I've got some bad news	[01:19]
dub	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcrfg5np8o	[01:19]
dub	we're going to have to wrap this human species thing up and start over	[01:20]
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dub	thats actually pretty good	[01:25]
dub	Mulder swapping aliens for scotch and young bitches	[01:25]
thestringpuller	HAHAHAHAHAHAHA	[01:26]
thestringpuller	OMG	[01:26]
thestringpuller	OMG	[01:26]
thestringpuller	Californication is about a writer Hank Moody (Dchovny) who has perpetual writers block.	[01:27]
thestringpuller	He proceeds to sleep with everyone.	[01:27]
thestringpuller	Californication is pretty much the story of mircea_popescu, if he were a writer with writer's block...	[01:27]
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thestringpuller	what's the mean "much to be desired"	[01:29]
thestringpuller	he keeps you wanting more?	[01:29]
thestringpuller	lol would you prefer Paul Graham?	[01:34]
thestringpuller	justin tv?	[01:36]
Namworld	Anyone holding GSDPT on BTCT.co?	[01:36]
thestringpuller	justin tv is ycombinator?	[01:37]
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Namworld	I guess not	[01:41]
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kakobrekla	https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=527	[01:43]
kakobrekla	So you all know, one thing we are noticing is that we keep losing the connection to the MTGox source data feed about every 20 minutes, however we automatically reconnect. This past hour we also noticed 2 interruptions lasting 3 minutes.	[01:43]
kakobrekla	We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured.	[01:44]
kakobrekla	They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct.	[01:44]
kakobrekla	#win	[01:44]
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kakobrekla	and they will support btc-e and bitstamp and the local bar toilet hole	[01:45]
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kakobrekla	retarded.	[01:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.11 = 11.1 BTC [+]	[01:48]
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error4733	" Trading through with MTGox through Sierra Chart is not yet supported. This should be supported within the next 30 days. "	[01:50]
Namworld	Damn just bought some BTC	[01:50]
error4733	Ho Ho Ho, chrismas before time	[01:50]
Namworld	I don't like buying at those prices	[01:50]
Namworld	But some wanted to redeem some BTC-BOND	[01:50]
kakobrekla	i wouldnt worry error4733, its gonna suck as much as gox sucks	[01:50]
gribble	There are currently 27835.495 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2997236.30925 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0092 seconds	[01:51]
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error4733	its was	[01:51]
error4733	!bids 101	[01:52]
error4733	[22:20] There are currently 20546.789 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2270526.2342 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0054 seconds	[01:52]
error4733	3h ago	[01:52]
error4733	;;bids 101	[01:52]
gribble	There are currently 21613.226 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2374477.9266 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 96.8428 seconds	[01:52]
error4733	nvm...	[01:53]
dub	apparently you can pay gox for a more realtimey socket, SC should do that	[01:53]
kakobrekla	they offer that?	[01:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00365 = 0.073 BTC [-]	[01:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0036 = 0.144 BTC [-]	[01:53]
dub	according to neofutur they do	[01:54]
kakobrekla	uhh?	[01:54]
dub	he is some form of gox lackey/shill	[01:54]
dub	erryday im shillin	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00219 BTC [+]	[01:56]
dub	shillin villain style	[01:56]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]	[02:01]
Namworld	Really no GSDPT holder?	[02:03]
Namworld	I have a good offer...	[02:04]
ThickAsThieves	Nam what are oy asking about GSDPT?	[02:05]
ThickAsThieves	you*	[02:05]
ThickAsThieves	i think i have some	[02:05]
error4733	take that MtGox : The streaming data feed from MTGox is not working at the moment. Their server is just not streaming any data. They really have serious reliability and efficiency problems. From what we can see, there whole architecture was not designed for efficiency. Obviously they will know best, but what we see is that one of their main problems is not so much that they have overwhelmed systems, more that they d	[02:06]
error4733	o not have efficient data delivery.	[02:06]
Namworld	I want to sell into those bids. I'll offer a 5% bonus for trade with S.DICE-PT units	[02:06]
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ThickAsThieves	i'm wrong	[02:07]
ThickAsThieves	i have none	[02:07]
ThickAsThieves	forgot i sold	[02:07]
ThickAsThieves	been away for a few days	[02:07]
Namworld	So like 4000 GSDPT units for 4200 S.DICE-PT if anyone else is interested	[02:07]
ThickAsThieves	i asked DT about moving some of my BF shares and he never got back to me	[02:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0022 BTC [+]	[02:08]
Namworld	He was here earlier	[02:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 28 @ 0.00221 = 0.0619 BTC [+]	[02:08]
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dub	scamtrading	[02:09]
dub	lmiot	[02:09]
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Namworld	lmiot?	[02:09]
dub	hao aboot 1337 shares of usagicorp for 300btc of pirate debt	[02:10]
dub	let me in on that	[02:10]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	these haters not understanding socket i/o over web socket geniuz.	[02:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00221 = 0.0044 BTC [+]	[02:12]
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Namworld	Eh, whatever, dub	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136658053566.jpg bwahaha who did this ?	[02:14]
kakobrekla	lolz	[02:15]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-]	[02:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.085001 = 5.425 BTC [-]	[02:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.085 = 3.255 BTC [-]	[02:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08002 BTC [-]	[02:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-]	[02:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003581 = 0.1791 BTC [-]	[02:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00351 = 0.2106 BTC [-]	[02:33]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [-]	[02:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.055 BTC [-]	[02:43]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: Dude Capital One sabotaged Bitfloor	[02:52]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[02:52]
thestringpuller	We process for them and I'm looking at documents...	[02:53]
thestringpuller	holy shit this is soooo fucked up	[02:53]
error4733	stop teasing	[02:54]
thestringpuller	I don't know who is on the wrong, but they claim "Undue risk"	[02:55]
thestringpuller	I wonder who will be next :P	[02:56]
thestringpuller	Looks like exchanges are better off storing the fiat under matresses...	[02:56]
kakobrekla	nah, they should buy bitcoin with that fiat	[02:58]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00351 = 0.0281 BTC [-]	[03:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1768 @ 0.0035 = 6.188 BTC [-]	[03:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82999989 BTC [+]	[03:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 243 @ 0.0035 = 0.8505 BTC [-]	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	this is an interesting concept. what risk is due ?	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.05 = 5.25 BTC [-]	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0461 BTC [-]	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.033 BTC [-]	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-]	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-]	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.011 = 2.022 BTC [-]	[03:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.01 = 5.05 BTC [-]	[03:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.001 BTC [-]	[03:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]	[03:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-]	[03:20]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00069635 = 8.8436 BTC [-]	[03:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0014 = 0.77 BTC [-]	[03:27]
kakobrekla	well you could mitigate at least a portion of it	[03:30]
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kakobrekla	(ab)use mpex bot and then you are as weak as the weakest link	[03:31]
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kakobrekla	i mean no, the strongest	[03:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82999989 = 3.66 BTC [+]	[03:32]
kakobrekla	is it not so?	[03:32]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu Capital One hate's risk, their loyalty platform runs in cobol because they are terrified of change...	[03:43]
thestringpuller	that's what happens when you're "Too big to fail" the smallest amount of risk is "unsettling"	[03:44]
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thestringpuller	but it's kind of bullshit since most banks to unethical/illicit things anyways...	[03:44]
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kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182685.0	[03:49]
kakobrekla	>The company’s trading algorithms currently run on electronic exchanges such as Nasdaq, BATS, EDGE, NYSE, and BTC-E.	[03:49]
kakobrekla	i think he is 21 days late.	[03:49]
kakobrekla	or 20, depends what your local time is.	[03:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4855555 = 4.37 BTC [+]	[03:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00069717 = 7.7386 BTC [+]	[03:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6224 @ 0.000695 = 4.3257 BTC [-]	[03:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1926 @ 0.00069452 = 1.3376 BTC [-]	[03:59]
dub	thestringpuller: not suprising really, don't know about US but here there is legistlation covering banking technology	[04:00]
dub	e.g. if a bank causes losses due to technical fuckup people can get charged with a crime	[04:02]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	Shares: 100,000 Price: .20 bitcoins, but tbd by free market	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	imo the best part.	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT	[04:04]
assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1 / 1.09486 / 1.2 (182 shares, 199.3 BTC), 7D: 0.79 / 1.08844 / 1.75 (1627 shares, 1770.9 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.82495 / 1.75 (8260 shares, 6814.1 BTC)	[04:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	he's going to do 3x better than asicminer on the strength of having made a forum post.	[04:05]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: what is your opinion on asicminer?	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	bout the same as a month ago	[04:06]
thestringpuller	I never got the memo.	[04:06]
thestringpuller	CAUSE IT'S BEHIND A PAYWALL!	[04:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.1098 = 8.8784 BTC [+]	[04:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+]	[04:09]
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mircea_popescu	well...	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	i dont think i ever wrote about it on my blog	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	i think you just asked me the same q a month ago	[04:12]
taub	what is that picture of your family gathering about	[04:12]
taub	is MPOE-PR female now or not	[04:12]
taub	i'm foncused :(	[04:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-]	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	cool	[04:13]
thestringpuller	WINTER IS COMING	[04:15]
thestringpuller	Mark my words	[04:15]
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mod6	haha wat? it's been snowing here all month.	[04:16]
mod6	winter is still here.	[04:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.05 = 10.5 BTC [+]	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	my rosemary bush is in bloom	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	you've not seen something like this, it looks like a lilac.	[04:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.41001 = 1.64 BTC [-]	[04:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-]	[04:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19989 = 1.9989 BTC [+]	[04:17]
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mod6	we got like 7" of snow last week easy.	[04:18]
bowjob	http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ele/3758263779.html	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	https://www.bitlc.net/ lol	[04:18]
bowjob	lol	[04:18]
stslimited	hello kakobrekla from bitcointalk suggested I come here	[04:18]
stslimited	regarding an upcoming IPO posting	[04:18]
stslimited	thread I made	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[04:19]
kakobrekla	he did the right thing!	[04:19]
stslimited	great, conditioning in its finest	[04:19]
dub	mircea_popescu: tl;dr	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	Domestic Limited-Liability Company	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	File Number: 2012-000626131	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	Filing State: Wyoming (WY)	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	Company Age: 9 Months	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	Principal Address: Po Box 20539	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	New York, NY 10001	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	Mailing Address: Po Box 20539	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	New York, NY 10001	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	is that you ?	[04:19]
stslimited	yes, continued from Nevada	[04:20]
stslimited	so 2 years	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	are you that fuckwited in the head to imagine anyone in bitcoin gives two shits about your pointless llc ?	[04:20]
stslimited	elaborate?	[04:20]
stslimited	people are interested in high frequency trading	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	no. shut the fuck up.	[04:20]
thestringpuller	hahahaha	[04:20]
stslimited	go on	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	read here for six months or a year	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	get with the program	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	then maybe you ipo something for 500 or so coins.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	maybe.	[04:21]
stslimited	you haven't told me anything about what the problem with the document was	[04:21]
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mircea_popescu	there is no document	[04:22]
stslimited	the OP	[04:22]
stslimited	the thread	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	just an ignorant idiot (you)	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	now stop talking to me before you go on my ignore	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	and do what you are told.	[04:22]
thestringpuller	lol wow this is the most upset I've seen mr. popescu	[04:22]
thestringpuller	good job stslimited	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	no but it's beyond outrage this shit.	[04:22]
stslimited	I mean, harr harr senior member of an incrowd picks on new user in their own channel	[04:23]
stslimited	woop de doo thats never happened on the internet	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	i mean asicminer trades 6k btc in a month on btct herpderp here's guy with a 20k btc plan.	[04:23]
stslimited	okay	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	he has no fucking idea what's what and we're all playing at internets.	[04:23]
kakobrekla	lmao	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	doth not work, this.	[04:23]
stslimited	oh, the number of shares was in bitcoins	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	x.x	[04:24]
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stslimited	why do you feel that an algorithmic trading fund is not structured as correctly as the mining share companies	[04:25]
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stslimited	this is what I came in here for	[04:25]
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stslimited!@	added to ignore list.	[04:25]
thestringpuller	;;getatin stslimited	[04:26]
gribble	Error: "getatin" is not a valid command.	[04:26]
thestringpuller	;;getrating stslimited	[04:26]
gribble	This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated.	[04:26]
thestringpuller	okay lets start	[04:26]
thestringpuller	I'm a n00b	[04:27]
thestringpuller	And even I am in the OTC	[04:27]
thestringpuller	you are not	[04:27]
thestringpuller	why should I invest in you?	[04:27]
thestringpuller	how can I even trust you?	[04:27]
thestringpuller	yes...	[04:27]
thestringpuller	WoT so to speak	[04:27]
thestringpuller	(Web of Trust)	[04:27]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: is he on your ignore yet?	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [+]	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[04:28]
dub	thestringpuller: just because every hft/etf in bitcoin to date has been a thinly disguised robbery don't mean this guy aint legit	[04:28]
thestringpuller	sign me up!	[04:28]
dub	LMIOT	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	dub i thought you were with the tl;dr program	[04:28]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: what is that bitcoin drama timeline post you had?	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	ok i gotta try this	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	;;google bitcoin drama timeline post i had	[04:29]
gribble	BitCoin Drama Continues After Hours \| Zero Hedge: ; The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; bitcoin posts on CNET - Cnet TV:	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	pesky zh how dare they	[04:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00391 BTC [+]	[04:29]
thestringpuller	stslimited: read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/	[04:29]
dub	stslimited: there probably is one, and certianly many operating in private, the problem as mircea_popescu is trying to elloquate is trust	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	no.	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	the problem i am discussing is ignorance. this fuckwit proceeds to not even bother researching the field before "building" nonsense.	[04:30]
dub	stslimited: you really need to start small and earn it, there is no easy route	[04:30]
thestringpuller	^ exactly	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	he has no fucking idea about anything whatsoever other than "o i saw this [uninformed] thing about bitcoin cause the price went up"	[04:31]
thestringpuller	what does it matter?	[04:31]
dub	stslimited: this is for the obvious reason that there is no way for anyone to recover bitcoins entrusted to you if you decide to be untrustworth	[04:31]
dub	*y	[04:31]
thestringpuller	stslimited: lets take a look at numbers	[04:31]
thestringpuller	For the actuarially inclined, the total losses to theft, fraud and stupidity plus anything in between amount to 1.296 million BTC.	[04:31]
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thestringpuller	Even if you have the best intentions, this world is ruthless.	[04:32]
thestringpuller	So how would you not end up losing money?	[04:32]
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thestringpuller	even if not from directly trying to scam us, you maybe inept like many others before you	[04:32]
thestringpuller	then you are added the graveyard of dead companies that keeps piling up	[04:32]
thestringpuller	another body	[04:32]
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kakobrekla	pirates nav increas was very nice	[04:33]
thestringpuller	HAHAHAHA	[04:33]
kakobrekla	indeed	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla aussie_striker's is better. go with the found.	[04:33]
thestringpuller	that fact you don't know who pirate is raises grave concerns	[04:33]
thestringpuller	you are unwilling to educate yourself, and that is mircea_popescu's issue	[04:34]
thestringpuller	are you kidding?	[04:34]
thestringpuller	there are millions upon millions of dollars done in trade in otc	[04:35]
thestringpuller	the WoT is for bitcoin millionaires to quote MPOE-PR, the very people who's coin you are trying to solicity	[04:35]
thestringpuller	solicit*	[04:35]
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thestringpuller	Yes, but take a look at Ziggap.	[04:37]
thestringpuller	Ziggap was in theory a competitor to Bitinstant, and it's IPO sold out in some like 3-5 hours	[04:37]
dub	theres no real reason to try to persuade us	[04:37]
dub	just do it and be prepared for flames	[04:38]
dub	and for only noobs to throw money at it	[04:38]
thestringpuller	Ziggap was ipo'ed by someone who has one of the highest WoT rating	[04:38]
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thestringpuller	yet it's price has plummeted below IPO levels just like facebook	[04:38]
dub	thats not a good example	[04:38]
thestringpuller	how are you so sure you won't encounter hurdles as you scale even if you have "a proven platform"	[04:38]
kakobrekla	thestringpuller, who had, not has.	[04:38]
dub	aethero's wot is made up of all teh micro loan muppets	[04:39]
kakobrekla	true	[04:39]
dub	he screams scammer	[04:39]
thestringpuller	yes, kakobrekla had* my mistake	[04:39]
kakobrekla	dat also	[04:39]
thestringpuller	^ - yup	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	dub how did the entire aethero thing play out btw ?	[04:39]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: it's still in progress	[04:39]
dub	dunno, I wouldnt touch it with yours	[04:39]
thestringpuller	"to be continued"	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	i c	[04:40]
thestringpuller	the website is super down	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	last i heard the website was donw and deprived was smelling blood.	[04:40]
thestringpuller	I think they went bankrupt.	[04:40]
thestringpuller	Someone gamed them, using the chargebacks.	[04:40]
thestringpuller	So they had to shut down.	[04:41]
thestringpuller	but it is. how long have you been operating, and what are your profit margins?	[04:41]
thestringpuller	how come this is the first ANYONE in this channel has heard of you?	[04:41]
dub	stslimited: some guidelines for you: 1) stop trying to hype your deal here, anyone with coin has already tuned out 2) hype notwithstanding; obtain an IRC client, stay in this channel and contribute 3) show us your id, shit you have done before, show up IRL at bitcoiny things	[04:43]
dub	stslimited: 4) do your hft thing, you'll probably get some bites, be prepared to start small and 5) don't steal peoples shit	[04:44]
thestringpuller	stslimited: don't try to go from gangst to godfather in a night	[04:44]
thestringpuller	gangsta*	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	since when is dub a contributing member with like positive shit and everything ?!	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	how long have i been asleep ?!	[04:44]
thestringpuller	Hahahaha. Since tonight it seems. :D	[04:45]
dub	sometimes I forget to troll	[04:45]
thestringpuller	dub is full of surprises	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	lol k	[04:45]
thestringpuller	6) don't piss off mircea_popescu	[04:45]
dub	or maybe I'm just trolling you guys be encouraging the latest scam	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	the moral of the story being that the more of an asshole i am, the more inclined even the hardcorest trolls are to halp.	[04:46]
thestringpuller	oooh a popescu meme appears	[04:47]
thestringpuller	picture of popescu frowning: "I'm real tired of your shit"	[04:47]
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mircea_popescu	thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_july2009.jpg	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	there's your base	[04:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11126 @ 0.00069525 = 7.7354 BTC [+]	[04:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00069789 = 7.3976 BTC [+]	[04:50]
thestringpuller	you smokin a blunt mircea_popescu ?	[04:50]
thestringpuller	lololol	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	i can not say for legal considerations i can not disclose.	[04:50]
dub	stslimited: the moral is you are completely unknown and asking people to let you hold their irreversably transferred internet coins	[04:50]
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mircea_popescu	thestringpuller anyway the deprived theory iirc was that the entire ipo was simply to float living expenses and that was all.	[04:54]
mircea_popescu	sorta like a simplified bdt	[04:55]
thestringpuller	we all saw how BDT went...	[04:55]
kakobrekla	i called that one here.	[04:56]
kakobrekla	for the record.	[04:56]
dub	lol	[04:56]
kakobrekla	:p	[04:56]
thestringpuller	i wonder how many ipo's ended up being pocketed...	[04:56]
dub	I'm still waiting for credit on calling usagi	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yeah	[04:57]
thestringpuller	usagi is just inept	[04:58]
dub	s/ept/sane	[04:58]
thestringpuller	HAH	[04:58]
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thestringpuller	stslimited: uh not S.DICE and S.MPOE	[04:58]
thestringpuller	those are pretty old	[04:58]
thestringpuller	S.BBET is pretty young	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	dub you can't get credit. would you like a debit ?	[04:59]
thestringpuller	ZigGap stands on top as the most trusted method for purchasing BTC, and plans to offer the widest array of methods to buy Bitcoin. <<< lol	[04:59]
dub	just enroll me in the next tranch of $MEME.Z	[04:59]
thestringpuller	XD	[04:59]
kakobrekla	;;rate dub 1 credit on calling usagi	[05:00]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dub has changed from 1 to 1.	[05:00]
dub	bewm	[05:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.096 BTC [-]	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	so wtf was this bitlc thing in the end ?	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	i never could figure it out and now it's gone.	[05:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.091 = 0.455 BTC [-]	[05:00]
thestringpuller	dub: were you the one who made the "Usagi ftw" bet?	[05:01]
thestringpuller	"Usagi will have an asset listed on MPEX by April 1st 2013"	[05:01]
kakobrekla	rg suddenly has time to troll in -otc	[05:02]
thestringpuller	or something like that	[05:02]
kakobrekla	thats a twist	[05:02]
kakobrekla	or maybe has been going for a while	[05:02]
dub	thestringpuller: negative	[05:02]
kakobrekla	dunno	[05:02]
dub	the only bet I made was 'DMC will never do anything every and eveyone will lose money' it got rejected :(	[05:03]
dub	ever*	[05:03]
dub	oh wait I did th empex will get hacked one too	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	https://www.bitlc.net/assets/system_infrastructure_full.jpg this makes so little sense it boggles my mind	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	mpex was hacked ?	[05:04]
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dub	no when you offered reddit a bounty to hack it	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	o yeah	[05:07]
orkaa	mircea_popescu, i love the 'no internet access' server on ec2	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	orkaa also what use does a pool server have of a dedicated db server ?	[05:07]
mircea_popescu	maybe i don't understand mining but... mempool right ? it's in ram.	[05:07]
dub	gotta store balances and shit	[05:08]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: this is really just a clever new way of promoting "VM escape exploit" research.	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	spell that out for me	[05:09]
asciilifeform	sometimes, exploits are discovered that let you break out of a VM (like the onces on Amazon's EC2) and take over the physical hardware	[05:10]
asciilifeform	from that point, you can snoop/modify the customer VMs, for whatever purpose you like.	[05:10]
asciilifeform	*ones	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	so he's holding btcs in there to encourage others to try and break into his amazon vm ?	[05:10]
asciilifeform	maybe not deliberately, but what difference does it make	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	such a conspiracist you are	[05:11]
asciilifeform	he even helpfully tells us that we need to exploit EC2/Ireland.	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you are aware this is a dead service right ?	[05:13]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: well... now I am.	[05:14]
asciilifeform	I don't really keep up with btcdrama in real time	[05:14]
dub	this is why I defended linode, erryone crying about linode security, nobody pointing finger at the tards running hot wallet on shared servers	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	cjeck out the root, it's on the amusing side of lol.	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	dub at the time we were poor.	[05:15]
thestringpuller	The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.	[05:15]
thestringpuller	MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it.	[05:15]
thestringpuller	Something smells rotten in Denmark.The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why.	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	the idea that "only dedicated for bitcoin" is a lot harder to push on a 1.5 dollar btc	[05:15]
thestringpuller	MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it.	[05:15]
thestringpuller	oops	[05:16]
thestringpuller	WOW LAG	[05:16]
thestringpuller	WHY PUTTY WHY DID YOU MAKE ME SPAM	[05:17]
thestringpuller	:(	[05:17]
kakobrekla	shit tyrone, get it together.	[05:17]
asciilifeform	thestringpuller: people with old-fashioned money and connections bought in. This much is clear as daylight at this point.	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	ya think ?!	[05:17]
Namworld	I'm not so sure about that	[05:20]
Namworld	The news seem to be dying	[05:20]
Namworld	Seems more like a fad	[05:20]
Namworld	Than anything	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181245.0;all quoted for bolded paragraph	[05:20]
Namworld	And with the peak and crash, now that it returned lower	[05:20]
Namworld	No longer that interesting	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[05:20]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 121.00001, Best ask: 121.53998, Bid-ask spread: 0.53997, Last trade: 121.00001, 24 hour volume: 98052.49947353, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 129.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.94707	[05:20]
asciilifeform	re: the defunct EC2 wallet: I'd advise anyone against telling his web host that he is hosting a wallet on the latter's disks. Or, for that matter, letting it be known that a certain bank deposit box has paper coldwallets in it.	[05:20]
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mircea_popescu	seems pretty decent to me, 120.	[05:21]
asciilifeform	your hosting provider and bank manager might be saints, or they might not be.	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform im pretty sure it's impossible for bank manager to go into boxes.	[05:21]
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asciilifeform	however it is the police (or hypothetical Gold Confiscators (TM) ) get in	[05:22]
asciilifeform	locksmiths exist, etc	[05:22]
asciilifeform	pretty much everything upon this earth that is worth back-dooring, has been back-doored (esp. in the good old U.S.A.)	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	actually, the evolution of paper gold vs rthe real article has been fascinating past week	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	the premium is what, 30% by now ?	[05:23]
Namworld	Yeah, I just mean, about the media, seems like they moved to the next thing.	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	Namworld a good thing i say.	[05:23]
Namworld	BTC price is still decent. Seems a bit high tho	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	no bubble to see here, move on to shiny rocvks.	[05:23]
Namworld	Of course it's a good thing	[05:23]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: AFAIK "allocated" paper has been pretty close to the price of physical	[05:23]
Namworld	That hype didn't do much good.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform not lately.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	paper has been dumped massively.	[05:24]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: allocated paper. example: Bullionvault corp. new york branch quotes $1422 (buy; http://www.bullionvault.com/) Canadian mint: $1419. (http://www.apmex.com/Category/1158/1_oz_Gold_Bars_Only.aspx)	[05:26]
asciilifeform	one could debate whether allocated paper-gold is any less of a ripoff than the usual imaginary kind, but the fact remains.	[05:27]
dub	mircea_popescu: that thread is gold	[05:29]
dub	I like the cut of this pizza's gib	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform hm right you are	[05:29]
asciilifeform	I will describe a process for extracting paper wallets from a bank box, just so it doesn't surprise anyone when it actually happens:	[05:30]
asciilifeform	one day, a bomb threat is called into the bank	[05:30]
asciilifeform	police dogs search the place, find no bomb	[05:30]
asciilifeform	but the deposit box room is found to smell a little of marijuana	[05:30]
asciilifeform	the boxes are opened, the contents photographed.	[05:31]
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asciilifeform	and so forth.	[05:31]
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kakobrekla	start writing books or something	[05:31]
kakobrekla	that could work	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	containers aren't opened are they.	[05:31]
asciilifeform	depends. perhaps your envelope will smell especially strongly. (squirt bottle.)	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173227.msg1907593#msg1907593 have more.	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform afaik this has not in fact happened,	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	ie you still need a court order and identified boxes tio have tghem opened.	[05:33]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: I didn't say it had already happened.	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	a a	[05:33]
kakobrekla	>Reported to police (they are really no help, so much for paying their salary, seems they've gotten fbi reports about bitcoins and don't really like them, started asking if I pay taxes on them...),	[05:33]
kakobrekla	O_O	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	well for that money if you can check out womenyou can probably have	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	oops	[05:33]
asciilifeform	they had door-to-door house searches in Boston last week, without any messy paperwork.	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	well for that money if you can check out women's parts through clothes you can probably check out printed paper through sheet metal	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah. pretty outrageous stuff that.	[05:34]
asciilifeform	in any system, find the real weak point. anyone who can access the vault during off-hours and pause the camera recorder, can pick the locks at his leisure.	[05:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-]	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	banks aren't video rental stores.	[05:36]
asciilifeform	my point wasn't that this kind of scenario will become routine, but that it is unwise to tell people without a need-to-know exactly where your coldwallet physically lives.	[05:36]
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dub	whats that movie where some limeys steal royal noodz from a deposit box?	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	well for sure it's unwise to spread info wider than it needs to go.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	dub one of the many dumbass things where that guy from pulp fiction tries to parlay his momentary fame into a career ?	[05:37]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: from the standpoint of an owner or other person with unhindered physical access, a bank is exactly the same as a video store.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	nobody has unhindered access tho.	[05:37]
asciilifeform	firemen. banks do occasionally burn. esp. if they need to.	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	ya, fire is a serious problem for paper wallets.	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	with or without all this complex discussion.	[05:39]
asciilifeform	which is why you store it in 35 places, and use Shamir's algorithm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_sharing)	[05:40]
asciilifeform	and no one but you should know of more than a few of them.	[05:41]
Namworld	So tell me mircea, are you short on BTC right now?	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	Namworld nah.	[05:41]
Namworld	I'm one of the few bears around in the "speculation" channels it seems.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	you have to understand tho, none of the major players will even be net short for strategic reasons.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	not if they have any sense anyway.	[05:42]
Namworld	I suppose	[05:43]
Namworld	Still	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180663.0	[05:43]
Namworld	You've probably read a few news as we approached the peak. They were getting... crazy/unlikely. Quite the craze.	[05:44]
Namworld	I decided to go short	[05:44]
Namworld	I do not regret	[05:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-]	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	if you shorted over 200 you're well in the money now.	[05:45]
Namworld	I shorted what I had available at 230-250	[05:45]
Namworld	I'm quite sad I had so much placed into assets at that time	[05:46]
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mircea_popescu	um	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	whart do you mean ? shorting and selling are different concepts.	[05:47]
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Namworld	Yes, my bad.	[05:48]
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pizzaman1337	I wonder what will become of this sillyness: https://twitter.com/mikko/status/326237176402673664	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	pizzaman1337 for the record : nothing.	[12:11]
pizzaman1337	mmk	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	also the guy is blocked on my twitter, which means he must have been sts-like at some point	[12:12]
pizzaman1337	Mikko? he's just a researcher	[12:13]
MJR_	hey	[12:13]
MJR_	how's it going everyone	[12:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10812 @ 0.00070528 = 7.6255 BTC [-]	[12:14]
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mircea_popescu	o look who's back	[12:14]
MJR_	hehehe	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	pizzaman1337 musta done some real bad research i guess	[12:14]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4139 @ 0.0006981 = 2.8894 BTC [-]	[12:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8661 @ 0.00069452 = 6.0152 BTC [-]	[12:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2495 BTC [+]	[12:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2496 BTC [+]	[12:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+]	[12:44]
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bit_nutz	mt gox stop trading in sgd?	[12:52]
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mircea_popescu	yes, preparing for introduction of ltc etc	[12:53]
bit_nutz	i see, thanks mp	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	bit_nutz i was being facetious, for the record.	[12:55]
MJR_	lol they haven't goxxed ltc yet...	[12:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6588 @ 0.00069834 = 4.6007 BTC [+]	[12:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3018 @ 0.00070857 = 2.1385 BTC [+]	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	ahh romanian smoked cheese + anchoves on american style pancakes	[12:57]
mircea_popescu	fusion is where it's at i tell you!	[12:58]
MJR_	:)	[12:59]
MJR_	eventually we can open the first romanian fusion haute cuisine restaurant that accepts bitcoin lol	[12:59]
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mircea_popescu	get 3.5 michelin stars	[13:25]
jurov	greets from budapest...finally :)	[13:35]
jurov	but i realized i don't have anywhere to rush anyway	[13:35]
MJR_	jurov: HI!	[13:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00367 BTC [-]	[13:39]
mircea_popescu	jurov is becoming a philosopher :D	[13:39]
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mircea_popescu	;;goxlag	[13:49]
gribble	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	whoa! mtgox is finally ready for hft!	[13:50]
jurov	Hi mjr_	[13:50]
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bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0	[14:09]
bowjob	Someone take me up on this >:)	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	bowjob you forgot to include an url	[14:10]
bowjob	right	[14:11]
bowjob	I feel confident in this game, that I;m willing to do a 1:10 odds	[14:11]
bowjob	So, bet 0,1 btc, win 1 BTC if you can beat me	[14:11]
Uglux	or play sd ^^	[14:12]
bowjob	http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-assets	[14:13]
bowjob	oops	[14:13]
bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0	[14:13]
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bowjob	SD is a guaranteed loss overtime	[14:16]
bowjob	unless you are a shareholder	[14:16]
Scrat	29,99€ for an arcade?	[14:16]
Scrat	no fuck you capcom	[14:17]
bowjob	it should be worth more than that. the game is fun as hell	[14:17]
damientrog	Shareholders also lose on SD :/	[14:25]
damientrog	I remember buying at 0.6	[14:25]
bowjob	I got out at 0.62	[14:25]
bowjob	:p	[14:25]
bowjob	and 0.75. I missed out on the 0.19 panic	[14:25]
troc	0.12 even	[14:26]
troc	any news ?	[14:26]
bowjob	did it go that low? O;	[14:26]
damientrog	yeah I bought at 0.2 as well	[14:26]
damientrog	and resold at .45	[14:26]
damientrog	so it's not all bad	[14:26]
damientrog	but still	[14:26]
damientrog	I have a respectable amount of shares in SD	[14:26]
troc	at least div is looking better this month	[14:27]
damientrog	that's good news	[14:27]
troc	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1906329#msg1906329	[14:27]
bowjob	the bet volume isnt too good	[14:28]
damientrog	the higher value of BTC	[14:28]
damientrog	the lower the volume that will be bet	[14:28]
damientrog	yeah I love this dooglus guy	[14:29]
bowjob	the argument against that was.. as btc price grows, more people use them.. and more play on s.dice	[14:29]
damientrog	he must really be into statistics :)	[14:29]
bowjob	dooglus.. he played satoshi dice before	[14:29]
bowjob	about 600 dollars bet	[14:29]
bowjob	back then when btc was single to double digits	[14:29]
damientrog	I've done my bets as well	[14:30]
damientrog	and won very well	[14:30]
damientrog	then quit	[14:30]
bowjob	wise decision	[14:30]
damientrog	and bought shares in the house	[14:30]
damientrog	since the house always wins, so I thougth :)	[14:30]
bowjob	hah. thats how riches are made	[14:30]
damientrog	I hope… :)	[14:31]
damientrog	but I like Erik as well, I trust he'll come up with something to revive SD	[14:31]
troc	ev speaks well, always impresses me how he communicates on air.	[14:32]
damientrog	yup a very good advocate for Bitcoin	[14:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [+]	[14:33]
bowjob	no ones taking me up on my offer. are the odds too low?	[14:33]
deadweasel	nobody wants to buy the game for a chance to lose to you.	[14:34]
deadweasel	methinks	[14:34]
deadweasel	plus it's time for work. ;)	[14:34]
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damientrog	deadweasel is right :)	[14:34]
MJR_	i wonder...	[14:35]
MJR_	are there any charts or order books that account for OTC?	[14:35]
MJR_	there is a 6000 coin sell at ~123	[14:35]
MJR_	and a 8000 coin buy at 125	[14:35]
bowjob	well confession bear here.. I think the odds are 99.9% in my favour lol	[14:35]
damientrog	ah you're just here to elate your ego :)	[14:36]
damientrog	and we're too pussy to prove you wrong	[14:36]
bowjob	nah. i want some btc. :3	[14:37]
mircea_popescu	MJR_ prolly something you can make. not so hard to query the book	[14:37]
bowjob	Thinking of offering a free game if... they deposit at least 1 btc to john	[14:37]
bowjob	There is a risk for me..	[14:37]
bowjob	if someone out there in an A ranker, I'd get destroyed	[14:37]
MJR_	well, i would like to make $12000 on one order...	[14:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.01498 = 0.1049 BTC [+]	[14:38]
troc	rock, paper ... scissors ? How can you be an A ranker in that over the net ?	[14:40]
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bowjob	punches beat throws, throws beat blocks and blocks beat punches	[14:46]
Sin\|CRUNK	bowjob: offer to buy them the game if they deposit 1 btc	[14:47]
bowjob	rock paper scissors system. its a game where you beat your opponents using those moves,	[14:47]
bowjob	Yes, I'm thinking about it	[14:47]
bowjob	I still need to talk to john about this, he can be my escrow	[14:48]
bowjob	I'm still brainstorming rules, taking into account for latency	[14:55]
bowjob	There, done.	[14:55]
bowjob	Taking any and all challengers	[14:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 5946 @ 0.00326035 = 19.386 BTC [+]	[15:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.00367 = 0.0184 BTC [-]	[15:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0036 BTC [-]	[15:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.0032 = 0.032 BTC [-]	[15:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 30 @ 0.0031 = 0.093 BTC [-]	[15:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9633 @ 0.00070857 = 6.8257 BTC [+]	[15:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2476 @ 0.00070989 = 1.7577 BTC [+]	[15:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639998 = 0.8892 BTC [+]	[15:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29639999 BTC [+]	[15:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639999 = 0.8892 BTC [+]	[15:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19989 BTC [+]	[15:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [-]	[15:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.296499 = 2.965 BTC [+]	[15:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.296499 = 1.4825 BTC [+]	[15:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.296499 BTC [+]	[15:15]
bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142	[15:18]
bowjob	updated.	[15:18]
bowjob	anything else should I include?	[15:18]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19989 = 0.3998 BTC [+]	[15:28]
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bowjob	sure	[15:32]
bowjob	u got the game alreayd?	[15:32]
bowjob	heck we can go old school if you want.	[15:32]
bowjob	play SF2. its a game older than me	[15:32]
bowjob	:)	[15:32]
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bowjob	any proposals?	[15:33]
bowjob	id love to get my hands on skullgirls, but they are not out yet	[15:33]
Sin\|CRUNK	isn't it out for ps3	[15:34]
bowjob	it is, but not for pc	[15:34]
orkaa	http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48547675807/the-definitive-people-who-thought-chechnya-was-the	[15:34]
orkaa	a nice wall of ameritards	[15:35]
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bowjob	im watching th rules	[15:36]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.013 = 0.117 BTC [-]	[15:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0126 = 0.1008 BTC [-]	[15:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [-]	[15:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.012 = 0.204 BTC [-]	[15:42]
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bowjob	you gave me an idea	[15:45]
kakobrekla	OMG fuckin bitstamp idiots	[15:45]
kakobrekla	they cant even figure out whats wrong with their website / "exchange" / toilet hole	[15:46]
bowjob	I added a second game to play	[15:46]
bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142	[15:46]
bowjob	I;m thinking 1:1 on team fortress as well, but its not fit for a 1v1 game.	[15:46]
bowjob	nah	[15:47]
bowjob	the game is too rigid for me	[15:47]
bowjob	yeah	[15:47]
daybyter	Great!	[15:47]
daybyter	<= likes chess...	[15:48]
bowjob	i still have to learn the basic strats for it	[15:48]
bowjob	i know the moves, ect	[15:48]
daybyter	I've actually coded a chess engine once...	[15:48]
daybyter	but it's quite poor..	[15:48]
bowjob	oh wow. they have a surgeon simulator videogame	[15:49]
bowjob	lol	[15:49]
bowjob	wait i quit the vid miday	[15:50]
bowjob	midway	[15:50]
bowjob	lol	[15:50]
bowjob	perhaps later. its bedtime for me now, its 5:50 AM	[15:50]
bowjob	>_>	[15:50]
daybyter	oh...2:51 pm here...	[15:51]
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bowjob	truffles, game of tactics arena?	[15:53]
bowjob	:3	[15:53]
bowjob	no btcs, consider it a warmup	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.104 = 2.208 BTC [-]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103001 BTC [-]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103 BTC [-]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.102 BTC [-]	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10001 BTC [-]	[15:53]
bowjob	http://www.tacticsarena.com/play/	[15:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.07 = 6.42 BTC [-]	[15:53]
bowjob	ill wait for u on banff server	[15:54]
bowjob	im here now	[15:54]
bowjob	turn based strategy	[15:54]
bowjob	k, the game randomly picks who moves first	[15:55]
bowjob	i pick my move, then ur turn. the goal is you kill more of my guys than you kill of me	[15:55]
bowjob	u playin?	[15:57]
bowjob	im in banff	[15:57]
bowjob	aye	[15:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [+]	[15:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 76 @ 0.2965 = 22.534 BTC [+]	[15:58]
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bowjob	yeap	[16:00]
bowjob	wanna go at it?	[16:00]
bowjob	floor 7	[16:00]
bowjob	wait lemme set up	[16:00]
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bowjob	my guys. u can chang etheir beginning stances	[16:00]
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bowjob	ready	[16:02]
deadweasel	https://btc.sx/?tab=signup	[16:03]
deadweasel	somebody alpha testing this.	[16:03]
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deadweasel	user Sealy in bitcoin-analysis... interesting.	[16:03]
bowjob	enter	[16:04]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 53 @ 0.003679 = 0.195 BTC [+]	[16:19]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00209 BTC [-]	[16:21]
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kakobrekla	this one is new to me http://i.imgur.com/vlKihqr.jpg	[16:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19999 BTC [+]	[16:29]
bowjob	would anyone be interested in rare pockies	[16:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [-]	[16:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+]	[16:41]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.2 = 7.2 BTC [+]	[16:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+]	[16:41]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [-]	[16:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.47 = 9.4 BTC [+]	[16:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.225 = 9.8 BTC [+]	[16:46]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [-]	[16:50]
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bowjob	how do i quote prices in btc	[16:54]
kakobrekla	"prices in btc"	[16:55]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13251 @ 0.00070989 = 9.4068 BTC [+]	[16:55]
bowjob	i saw people price things in btc	[16:56]
bowjob	and it adjusts it automatically for them	[16:56]
bowjob	pegging it to fiat	[16:56]
Scrat	find such person	[16:57]
Scrat	click on image -> open in new window	[16:57]
Scrat	copy url and replace btc value	[16:57]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00301 = 0.0602 BTC [-]	[16:58]
Scrat	(provided that you're talking about the forum)	[17:00]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000679 = 0.1358 BTC [-]	[17:01]
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bowjob	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183130.msg1911279#msg1911279	[17:05]
bowjob	there	[17:05]
bowjob	I dunnit	[17:05]
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kakobrekla	poca sweat ?	[17:09]
ColdHardMetal	they have "pocari sweat" around here.	[17:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000693 = 0.104 BTC [+]	[17:12]
ColdHardMetal	some ghastly named gatorade equivalent.	[17:12]
Ukto	I had one when I was in Japan last week heh	[17:12]
kakobrekla	do you have some "lalala piss" too?	[17:13]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10102 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10101 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09103 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09102 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.09 = 7.63 BTC [-]	[17:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00070087 = 8.901 BTC [-]	[17:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00069911 = 7.3756 BTC [-]	[17:22]
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Scrat	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwpksY1Sj64	[17:26]
Scrat	AHAHAHAH	[17:26]
Scrat	fucking crazy russians	[17:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.002 = 0.06 BTC [-]	[17:41]
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kakobrekla	http://forexmagnates.com/bitcoin-exchange-trading-platform-coming-soon-rtbtc-flashes-specs/	[17:42]
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zebedee_	mircea_popescu: For bitbet.us, the weight is for a 1 BTC bet I assume (i.e. proportional to size)? I might have missed something but this doesn't seem to be explained in the FAQ.	[17:49]
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mircea_popescu	zebedee_ i'm not sure how you mean ? the weight is just a factor.	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla forexmagnates ?	[18:07]
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deadweasel	http://pastebin.com/2DWe3qci	[18:11]
deadweasel	only 20 minutes until debork's sham :)	[18:11]
deadweasel	he made it up for fun, methinks	[18:11]
zebedee_	mircea_popescu: Right, so my total weight if I bet 2 BTC is twice what it is if I bet 1 BTC?	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	yep	[18:16]
zebedee_	Although it may be obvious, I don't believe that's explicit anywhere.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	so i get what you ask now. yes it's per btc in the sense gravity is per kilogram.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	not per 1 btc specifically, just, as a factor.	[18:16]
zebedee_	But if I bet 1 BTC I get that weight? That makes it per BTC.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/prepaid/gift-cards/2013/blackhawk-completes-230-million-ipo/	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	so blackhawk is valued at 1.3bn.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	by this comparison satoshi dice is 99% undervalued.	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	zebedee_ you get that weight no matter what you bet. it's your bet * that weight.	[18:17]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/faq/#14	[18:17]
zebedee_	Right.	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	i think that pretty much says it, wouldn't you say ?	[18:18]
zebedee_	I'm a mathemetician, I like precision :)	[18:18]
zebedee_	None of this BFL vague bet shit.	[18:18]
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mircea_popescu	haha good, but specifically :	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by the winning side total weight and divided by his bet's total weight.	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	no good ?	[18:20]
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zebedee_	mircea_popescu: No I think you're right, thanks.	[18:21]
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mircea_popescu	np np	[18:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00069911 = 1.0137 BTC [-]	[18:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006972 = 4.8455 BTC [-]	[18:21]
zebedee_	One more: what is your policy for bets which are determined before they expire? e.g. suppose it's a bet about BTC going above X USD by end 2013 and it happens tomorrow. Do you pay out tomorrow, or what?	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	there's two loose cases here. if the stated resolution is far off (ie, more than a week), and the bet is clearly satisfied then the bet is paid off now.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	if the stated resolution is close the bet is resolved now or then, depending on load.	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	there are however bets which only resolve on their stated date, regardless. this is obvious from the wording	[18:23]
zebedee_	OK because people can game that if they bet just as, or immediately after, it's "happened".	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	(such as the avalon delivery bet was)	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	zebedee_ no, for two reasons. one is that bets coming in after the fact are refunded	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	if you look you will ocasionalyl see "refund" on the bet list.	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	furthermore, trying to game it this way exposes you to the following risk : if your bet doesn't make it into a block before bet is closed	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	you lose it.	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	so few people actually try to game it this way.	[18:24]
zebedee_	OK, that seems good.	[18:24]
zebedee_	Thanks. I'm curious - how do you handle your wallet?Do you pregenerate thousands of addresses in and store them in a DB somewhere?	[18:24]
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mircea_popescu	all i'm going to say is that bitbet server holds less than 10 btc at all times.	[18:25]
zebedee_	Sure. Just was curious about the tech of the offline wallet, as I've been dealing with such issues in a personal capacity myself. If you don't want to say anything fair enough, though I don't really see what risk that might expose you to.	[18:26]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29649999 = 2.965 BTC [-]	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	not risk per se, just, bitbet is a valuable business publicly owned, its internals may be discussed up to a certain - arbitrary - point.	[18:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [-]	[18:28]
zebedee_	OK. What do you do personally if you don't mind my asking?Which client do you use, or do you do your own thing with private keys etc?	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	i have a heavily modified bitcoind	[18:28]
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mircea_popescu	this is pretty much what i do in general, my blog is a heavily modified wp etc	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	basically my tech ppl pick up some open software and rewrite it.	[18:29]
zebedee_	OK, thanks. I used to use offline electrum but have moved to paper wallets a-la casascius.	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	anyway, you hatching some service ?	[18:29]
zebedee_	No. Writing my own bitcoin stuff in C though, but just for fun and to understand it better.	[18:30]
thestringpuller	zebedee_: do you know any casascius resellers	[18:30]
thestringpuller	shits are hard to find	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	zebedee_ it's how good services are started.	[18:30]
zebedee_	thestringpuller: me, perhaps. What are you looking for? :)	[18:30]
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zebedee_	I bought about 30-40 version ones, with the bad hologram. Gave all away apart from 3, when I saw what they were going for :)	[18:32]
zebedee_	And I have more version twos.	[18:32]
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zebedee_	Trying to think of devious ways to swap a version 2 for a version 1 with the people I gave them away to :)	[18:33]
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mircea_popescu	lmao	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	what are you, an indian giver ?	[18:33]
zebedee_	Not sure what that is. Just thought it was a cool way to introduce btc to people. Only gave them to people who have added value to my life in some way or other.	[18:35]
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mircea_popescu	indian giver = person who gives then tries to get it back :D	[18:35]
zebedee_	Ah :)	[18:35]
zebedee_	Anyway, gotta sleep.	[18:36]
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jurov	thestringpuller, molecular does resell	[18:58]
jurov	but last i heard is out of stock and need wait a month	[18:58]
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mod6	ugh disk failures :/	[20:01]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181662.0 this actually sounds pretty awful	[20:35]
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jborkl_	Think how that would have gone for you MP, last month when the bot got raped	[20:38]
jborkl_	and that was a real amount of money	[20:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00070789 = 8.2115 BTC [+]	[20:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 547 @ 0.0006972 = 0.3814 BTC [-]	[20:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6741 @ 0.00069452 = 4.6818 BTC [-]	[20:40]
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mircea_popescu	jborkl_ hm how do you mean ?	[20:41]
jborkl_	Well, they can not fufill orders when price crashes- shorting a order $30 - you made good on 21000 BTC	[20:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4494 @ 0.00068401 = 3.0739 BTC [-]	[20:42]
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kakobrekla	>. This is the kind of one-in-a-million occurance that happens when using cutting edge systems like Bitcoin,	[20:52]
kakobrekla	LOL	[20:52]
kakobrekla	>and we're glad it happened to us instead of a normal user	[20:52]
kakobrekla	yet 'normal user' got harmed	[20:52]
kakobrekla	isnt erik with them or mixed smth up?	[20:53]
kakobrekla	oh no thats coinapult	[20:53]
kakobrekla	nvm	[20:53]
mod6	I placed 2 orders on the 9th, one for silver one for gold. I received my silver order by the 15th. My gold order is still in processing. Orders were < 2 BTC each. I was pretty happy with receving my silver order so I gave them a rating of 2.	[20:56]
mod6	So far I haven't had any issues or heard the anything like the guy on btctalk.	[20:57]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 1.14002 = 25.0804 BTC [+]	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	jborkl_ ah i see what you mean.	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla afaik erik was with bitpay team but they parted amicably	[21:00]
mircea_popescu	and now is focusing on coinapult which is not related to coinabul.	[21:00]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.0912 = 2.1824 BTC [-]	[21:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.09 = 3.27 BTC [-]	[21:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.09 = 4.36 BTC [-]	[21:03]
kakobrekla	myeah	[21:03]
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kakobrekla	i mixed cinabul and coinapult	[21:03]
kakobrekla	cina = coina	[21:03]
mod6	i guess i have scammer ptsd from all of this bitcoin stuff. There have been some ugly public fights about stuff in the past with them. But I've been talkin to coingenuity for a long time on irc and looking at the coinabul site a lot but never made a purchse.	[21:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.0701 = 5.3505 BTC [-]	[21:04]
mod6	I figured it was worth a try to see how it goes. So far, I'm satisfied with the service. Will let you guys know how it ends up.	[21:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.07 = 5.35 BTC [-]	[21:04]
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pgp	erik was with bitinstant, not bitpay, afaik...	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	scammer ptsd lol	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	nice way of putting it	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	pgp o fuck yes i confused them. bitinstant it was.	[21:05]
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mircea_popescu	coinpeople bitplease stopcoin bitusing coinames bitfor everycointhing youbit coindo omfbitgod!!	[21:05]
mod6	lol	[21:06]
wences	lol	[21:07]
pgp	lol	[21:07]
Scrat	bit_chslap	[21:07]
pgp	good one	[21:07]
mod6	i seriously do... i've had to navigate through all of these scams since the old days. i only got scammed, so far, by tor-wallet which was idiot to use anyway. Lost like 5 BTC on them.	[21:08]
mod6	i basically just end up hording btc since or sending them to use on MPEx since the trust level with just about everything else in this space is too great to bear.	[21:08]
pgp	trust is hard won in the bitcoin arena...	[21:09]
kakobrekla	nah, all you need is a ltd really	[21:11]
kakobrekla	just ask stslimited	[21:11]
kakobrekla	oh whered he go now	[21:11]
mircea_popescu	ok this goes to twitter too	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla i imagine he's going to show us all how stoopid we really are	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	and how the 500th iteration of a failed idea is going to yield results simply because he doesn't know of the other 499	[21:15]
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kakobrekla	i got sunburned from so much light exposure in last few days, just noticed im semi roasted.	[21:19]
kakobrekla	gotta calm the skin with lcd backlight.	[21:20]
kakobrekla	anyway,	[21:20]
kakobrekla	the guy say	[21:20]
kakobrekla	>If you want to be a defacto regulatory, at least come up with sensible regulations.	[21:20]
kakobrekla	maybe MJR_ can tell him "no skateboards"	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	de facto regulatory my foot.	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	this is like "you must read" being regulation.	[21:21]
kakobrekla	im thinking now, publishing best practices like that would only make scamzors a bit harder to detect	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla timisoara > california for sun	[21:21]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla im not sure things work that way. good scamzors are hard to detect anyway. bad ones are bad anyway	[21:21]
kakobrekla	ah but i heard baroquesque paleness is comming back in fashion	[21:23]
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mircea_popescu	"At any rate, I would like to humbly solicit the best and brightest minds of our generation to consider this problem"	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-have-a-problem-which-i-dont-know-how-to-resolve-so-do-you/	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ^	[21:38]
jcpham	don't see the problem	[21:40]
*	jcpham is corrupt	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	well that's why	[21:40]
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jcpham	so we form a non-profit for dooglas	[21:41]
jcpham	and pay him from that?	[21:41]
jcpham	we not including me	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	then including who ?	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	any guy who figures he can somehow elbow people into sending donations which he can then uyse as working capital for some other venture ?	[21:42]
mircea_popescu	bs model, even more immoral than the problem.	[21:42]
jcpham	those who see value in his work should dnoate or contribute to an organization that pays him	[21:43]
jcpham	like a lobbyist	[21:43]
jcpham	he work isn't lobbied for to your liking	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	so then those with better marketing skills will get paid	[21:43]
jcpham	i see the problem. but the irl solution is just as immoral	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	and people doing useful shit will just get trhe added insult.	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	much like copyrigh works currently.	[21:43]
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mircea_popescu	jcpham indeed. article even says that.	[21:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42620002 = 0.8524 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.426 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42520001 = 2.126 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4252 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42511001 = 2.1256 BTC [-]	[21:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 46 @ 0.42511 = 19.5551 BTC [-]	[21:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 23 @ 0.2965 = 6.8195 BTC [+]	[21:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2989 BTC [+]	[21:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.299 = 0.598 BTC [+]	[21:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.3 = 3.9 BTC [+]	[21:46]
jcpham	sticky.	[21:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+]	[21:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.3297 = 3.9564 BTC [+]	[21:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32979998 = 3.298 BTC [+]	[21:47]
jcpham	very sticky indeed	[21:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.34 = 2.38 BTC [+]	[21:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+]	[21:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.34 = 4.08 BTC [+]	[21:48]
jcpham	keep this in mind, if you will	[21:48]
jcpham	he work that dooglas does, does it involve his opinions or is he simply formulating data	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	jcpham he's not really giving any opinion at all, just data processing atm.	[21:49]
jcpham	if you pay him for opinion it is one thing, but paying for reporting is another	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	but he has designed the entire process.	[21:49]
jcpham	he's designed a report	[21:49]
jcpham	which has value	[21:49]
jcpham	if he were providing a forecast or something i think it's a lot more questionable that paying for a data report	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	suppose he makes a mistake in a future version	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	which statistically speaking is guaranteed.	[21:51]
jcpham	well if we're talking about compensation, I wouldn't suggest paying for bad data...	[21:52]
jcpham	but ye. he fudges something	[21:52]
jcpham	what's the damage?	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	well i dunno, forum full of ppl conspiracytheorizing	[21:54]
jcpham	i can see that but like i said, what do you value his data or his opinions	[21:55]
jcpham	the conspiracy would stem from the two of you combining your opinions	[21:55]
jcpham	not the actual data	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	maybe that line is not always easy to draw.	[21:55]
jcpham	i agree	[21:55]
jcpham	but in your head it should be	[21:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28000001 BTC [-]	[21:56]
jcpham	maybe not to everyone else	[21:56]
jcpham	but his data could game you if you don't have your own fact-checkers	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	right.	[22:03]
orkaa	http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u1a6b/	[22:04]
orkaa	haha	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	tho the argument is kinda misplaced. caucasian !=== white.	[22:05]
orkaa	let me check the wiki page :)	[22:06]
orkaa	Historically, the term was used for many people from these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone.	[22:06]
orkaa	hmpf.	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	:p	[22:06]
mircea_popescu	this is like egypt. classically egyptians were tall, thin nosed, fair haired people.	[22:07]
MJR_	;;NEXT	[22:07]
gribble	AWAY UNTIL April 28 resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 \| support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 \| lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 1 day, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds ago	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	current day egyptians are turkish stock (short, stocky, black curly hair)	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[22:07]
orkaa	yeah, but anyway	[22:07]
orkaa	guys were american citizens anyway	[22:08]
orkaa	shouldn't matter where they came from	[22:08]
MJR_	we aren't all american citizens here...(i am, not that it matters)	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	orkaa americans are racist in their own peculiar ways.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	so yeah, it matters sometime.	[22:09]
MJR_	netizen will be more important	[22:11]
MJR_	than citizen	[22:11]
orkaa	internet won't be able to cure our cancer when we're 70	[22:12]
orkaa	hehe	[22:12]
orkaa	so we either get insanely rich by then	[22:12]
orkaa	or we live in the right country	[22:12]
kakobrekla	just print a new lung whats the big deal	[22:13]
mircea_popescu	scumbag kakobrekla : prints you a new lung. you had pancreatic cancer.	[22:13]
kakobrekla	:D	[22:13]
orkaa	mircea_popescu, at least he'd be fair, everyone gets the same deal	[22:14]
orkaa	:))	[22:14]
joecool	those laser printers = lung cancer	[22:14]
joecool	you think that's a fresh smell? that's the toner permeating your lung tissue	[22:14]
joecool	better to smoke than work in office	[22:15]
kakobrekla	yeah it does smell nice!	[22:15]
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kakobrekla	cough cough	[22:15]
joecool	kakobrekla: go hardcore, do lines of different colored toner	[22:16]
kakobrekla	colors are more powerful?	[22:16]
kakobrekla	i only have b/w	[22:16]
kakobrekla	though it doesnt prit white!	[22:17]
kakobrekla	print	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183080.msg1913245#msg1913245	[22:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1489 BTC [+]	[22:17]
kakobrekla	lol	[22:17]
joecool	mircea_popescu: romania have blackfolk?	[22:18]
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jarpiain	jborkl_ jcpham jedunnigan JimmyHo2 jMyles joecool joeykrim jurov	[22:20]
jarpiain	jborkl_ jcpham jedunnigan JimmyHo2 jMyles joecool joeykrim jurov	[22:20]
MJR_	i think they play basketball for the local team...that is not a joke	[22:20]
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mircea_popescu	joecool there's a bunch of peeps from africa come to study, there's also a strong gypsy minority.	[22:20]
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mircea_popescu	in general actually black people are rare enough that banging a black chick is a sort of personal trophy for any male	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	i imagine they get a pretty sweet self confidence boost by visiting lol	[22:21]
joecool	lol	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	;;eauth mircea_popescu	[22:21]
gribble	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452	[22:21]
joecool	yeah never did that, its bad enough being at a bar and having a giant black ass jackhammer you in the crotch	[22:22]
joecool	(just sayin)	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8658940855a91fd41ff34ec5e2af5634fb5c544400a2488917640e7c	[22:22]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452	[22:22]
joecool	but this is the US, black people in canada are pretty rare and i've never seen a giant one there	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	;;rate dooglus 2 Does useful things.	[22:23]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user dooglus has been recorded.	[22:23]
orkaa	in slovenia we elected the first black mayor ever	[22:23]
orkaa	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11616879	[22:23]
joecool	truffles: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2009/09/jimma-with-jackhammer.jpg	[22:23]
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joecool	truffles: nah it's more like a box truck backing up repeatedly into you	[22:26]
joecool	i guess	[22:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.31 BTC [-]	[22:35]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1486 BTC [-]	[22:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+]	[22:38]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1488 BTC [+]	[22:41]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[22:50]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 125.31057, Best ask: 125.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68942, Last trade: 126.00001, 24 hour volume: 66759.35870641, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.13301	[22:50]
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mircea_popescu	heh this stability.	[22:54]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14999 BTC [+]	[23:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.42511 = 1.7004 BTC [-]	[23:02]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1678 BTC [+]	[23:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1679 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.176 = 2.352 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.17686 = 2.3537 BTC [+]	[23:07]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+]	[23:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 190 @ 0.00349995 = 0.665 BTC [+]	[23:16]
Namworld	Well as much as being at that price for about 2 days can be called stability	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	almost 3!	[23:18]
kakobrekla	is more stable than gold	[23:18]
kakobrekla	yarly	[23:19]
pgp	24h volume on gox is a only 68k	[23:19]
Namworld	eheh	[23:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46999999 BTC [+]	[23:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12706 @ 0.00068401 = 8.691 BTC [-]	[23:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00068326 = 11.4446 BTC [-]	[23:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14452 @ 0.00067796 = 9.7979 BTC [-]	[23:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5171 @ 0.00067618 = 3.4965 BTC [-]	[23:21]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[23:24]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 125.00003, Best ask: 125.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 125.00003, 24 hour volume: 64124.31164192, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.08643	[23:24]
thestringpuller	wow	[23:24]
thestringpuller	volume cut in half	[23:24]
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pgp	yep... so I would be hesitate to call "all clear" on price stability...	[23:25]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 35 @ 0.00221 = 0.0774 BTC [+]	[23:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1768 BTC [-]	[23:27]
kakobrekla	vol is inline with what it was before the pop or poop, whatever you wanna call it	[23:28]
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kakobrekla	not impying anything just observation	[23:28]
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pgp	true, but with so many new accounts at gox, seems very light to me...	[23:29]
kakobrekla	the line is getting longer but the news are calming, are they de-amling users?	[23:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.19989 = 0.7996 BTC [+]	[23:39]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+]	[23:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-]	[23:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.002 = 0.02 BTC [-]	[23:54]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000693 = 0.0347 BTC [+]	[23:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00368 = 0.0405 BTC [+]	[23:58]
TheMonarchTx	all the new accounts were for speculation	[23:59]
TheMonarchTx	so once the bubble popped it's not surprising that the new accounts don't result in increased volume	[23:59]

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