Forum logs for 22 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu i can see that [00:00]
mircea_popescu still... legend is a ways off. [00:00]
thestringpuller http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg <- some of his stuff is neat...(or is it)? [00:02]
mircea_popescu wences : [00:02]
mircea_popescu ;;market buy 20900 [00:02]
gribble A market order to buy 20900 bitcoins right now would take 2764990.5722 USD and would take the last price up to 139.6900 USD, resulting in an average price of 132.2962 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [00:02]
wences thank you! [00:02]
wences you don't forget anything, do you? :) [00:02]
mircea_popescu i have people halping me :D [00:03]
wences Maybe you ARE many people; some with a beard, some without... [00:03]
kakobrekla hehe [00:03]
thestringpuller every 5 days [00:04]
thestringpuller kakobrekla and mircea_popescu switch places [00:04]
kakobrekla wha? [00:04]
mircea_popescu wences incidentally, seems you're the most recognisable face of the bildercoin. [00:04]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-stuff-all-good-conspiracy-theories-start-with/#comment-92857 [00:05]
mircea_popescu took less thna a day [00:05]
mircea_popescu (course mpoe-pr was recognised on sight but it's not really a fair comparison given the audience) [00:05]
wences hahahaha! You should not let people take such wild guesses anonymously [00:06]
wences make them show themselves :) [00:06]
thestringpuller what's bildercoin... [00:06]
thestringpuller wait whaaaa [00:06]
mircea_popescu hehe trilema has an old tradition in anonimity. [00:07]
wences :) [00:07]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu what are these pictures from? an expensive dinner? [00:08]
mircea_popescu yeah [00:09]
thestringpuller in romania? [00:09]
thestringpuller lol [00:09]
maximian the second guy on the left looks a bit like evoorhees http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/image.jpeg [00:09]
kakobrekla the first pic is called "the first supper" [00:09]
pizzaman1337 and the second pic, "the last supper"? [00:09]
kakobrekla nah [00:10]
thestringpuller so this was taken before MPEX? [00:10]
mircea_popescu maximian right on. [00:10]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller no, not before mpex. before yesterday. [00:10]
b0n1 ;;isdown mtgox.com [00:10]
gribble Error: "isdown" is not a valid command. [00:10]
maximian heh, no shit! [00:10]
thestringpuller MPOE-PR is the woman in the red dress [00:10]
b0n1 ;; [00:10]
mircea_popescu that's his lovely ex gf, michelle right next to him [00:10]
b0n1 ;; help [00:10]
gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ [00:10]
maximian ok, so that explains where he's been [00:11]
b0n1 !facts [00:11]
thestringpuller So these homies flew to romania to have dinner with you and smoke pot? [00:11]
mircea_popescu we can't afford pot yet. [00:11]
mircea_popescu maybe if bitcoin goes up moar. [00:11]
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b0n1 ^^ [00:13]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37167887.jpg [00:14]
mircea_popescu lol [00:14]
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thestringpuller I forgot Europeans don't celebrate 4/20 [00:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [+] [00:17]
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thestringpuller ain't nobody got time for that tiberiusiv [00:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-] [00:18]
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dub is that luke two to the left of mircea? [00:18]
taub so is there a point in investing in asics? [00:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09001 BTC [-] [00:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-] [00:19]
taub kinda contemplating it, but i think all it will do really is give you a prety small % roi [00:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08101 BTC [-] [00:19]
mircea_popescu luke ?! no luke. [00:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [-] [00:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-] [00:19]
thestringpuller lol mircea_popescu is like a cartoon: wears the same clothes in every picture [00:19]
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thestringpuller and always has his collar popped [00:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.079 BTC [-] [00:20]
dub wait is mircea the almish one with the vest and beard or the popped collar white suit guy [00:20]
mircea_popescu lol [00:20]
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thestringpuller no he's the one in the suit that he's always in [00:21]
dub I thought almish at first [00:21]
thestringpuller the white suit with the black shirt [00:21]
thestringpuller with the popped collar [00:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08001 BTC [+] [00:21]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: y u pop yo collar? [00:21]
mircea_popescu tis not popped tho. [00:22]
dub dat onefixt two to the right [00:22]
dub amirite [00:22]
dub tux next to him? [00:22]
mircea_popescu nope [00:22]
thestringpuller ;;next [00:22]
gribble *AWAY UNTIL April 28* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 3 hours, 22 minutes, and 51 seconds ago [00:22]
mircea_popescu tux prolly too big to fit in the room. [00:23]
mircea_popescu we has limited space in romani. [00:23]
mircea_popescu a [00:23]
gribble There are currently 32712810 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19862579.1046 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1102.5192 seconds [00:23]
thestringpuller MPOE-PR knows how to dress... [00:23]
dub oh its in romania? [00:23]
thestringpuller Look at dem shoes [00:23]
thestringpuller so visual proof that MPOE-PR is a femme fatale [00:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.750001 = 3.5 BTC [-] [00:25]
thestringpuller (check) [00:25]
dub I think youd need a closer inspection to be sure [00:25]
dub not sure if not trap [00:25]
thestringpuller I've been seduced by enough femme fatales in the film noire phase of my life to know a femme fatale when I see one [00:26]
mircea_popescu lol suspicious dub [00:26]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what did MPEX's ddos peak at? [00:28]
mircea_popescu most i've seen was ~100 gbit. [00:28]
thestringpuller daaaamn [00:28]
mircea_popescu actual peak possibly higher than that [00:28]
thestringpuller that's so much traffic... [00:28]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:29]
thestringpuller mtgox was hit with about 77 [00:29]
Scrat http://www.microguy.net/images/staff.jpg [00:31]
Scrat hit by gojirra [00:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1989 BTC [+] [00:32]
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mircea_popescu what's gojira ? [00:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009998 = 0.1 BTC [-] [00:33]
Scrat gohiraaaa [00:34]
b0n1 ;;goxlag [00:34]
gribble MtGox lag is 1.102353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00220910306944 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU). [00:34]
thestringpuller GOOOOOJIRRRRAAAAAAA [00:36]
thestringpuller It's how japanese people say Godzilla [00:36]
thestringpuller GOJIRAAA [00:36]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [00:38]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 122.46307, Best ask: 123.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.53693, Last trade: 123.00000, 24 hour volume: 112146.25165570, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 132.00000, 24 hour vwap: 123.37855 [00:38]
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mircea_popescu oic [00:42]
kakobrekla this ripple name... seems to attract many scams? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JIJ9gemxxD8 [00:44]
kakobrekla s/name/word [00:44]
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Namworld Hmm... anyone would like to take on some BTC-BOND? Someone wants to redeem and I don't feel like buying at these prices... [00:47]
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Namworld Guess I'll just have to [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000643 = 0.1286 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000642 = 0.077 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 734 @ 0.000642 = 0.4712 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.000641 = 0.3205 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00061 = 0.0305 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1475 @ 0.00061 = 0.8998 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 155 @ 0.000597 = 0.0925 BTC [-] [00:51]
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kakobrekla where? [00:57]
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kakobrekla silence is golden [00:59]
kakobrekla go to otc then [00:59]
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kakobrekla switch in between [01:00]
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kakobrekla i feel like i dont know him [01:05]
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kakobrekla elevator music [01:06]
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ThickAsThieves Bruno Mars is the bastard child of Michael Jackson and Elvis [01:08]
ThickAsThieves he creeps me out [01:09]
ThickAsThieves but yes, he has a nice voice [01:09]
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ThickAsThieves to each his own [01:09]
Scrat elevator music you say? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwHjRIlCnU [01:11]
Scrat skip to 2:15 [01:14]
Scrat well thats what my elevator is playing [01:15]
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dub guys I've got some bad news [01:19]
dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcrfg5np8o [01:19]
dub we're going to have to wrap this human species thing up and start over [01:20]
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dub thats actually pretty good [01:25]
dub Mulder swapping aliens for scotch and young bitches [01:25]
thestringpuller HAHAHAHAHAHAHA [01:26]
thestringpuller OMG [01:26]
thestringpuller OMG [01:26]
thestringpuller Californication is about a writer Hank Moody (Dchovny) who has perpetual writers block. [01:27]
thestringpuller He proceeds to sleep with everyone. [01:27]
thestringpuller Californication is pretty much the story of mircea_popescu, if he were a writer with writer's block... [01:27]
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thestringpuller what's the mean "much to be desired" [01:29]
thestringpuller he keeps you wanting more? [01:29]
thestringpuller lol would you prefer Paul Graham? [01:34]
thestringpuller justin tv? [01:36]
Namworld Anyone holding GSDPT on BTCT.co? [01:36]
thestringpuller justin tv is ycombinator? [01:37]
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Namworld I guess not [01:41]
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kakobrekla https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=527 [01:43]
kakobrekla So you all know, one thing we are noticing is that we keep losing the connection to the MTGox source data feed about every 20 minutes, however we automatically reconnect. This past hour we also noticed 2 interruptions lasting 3 minutes. [01:43]
kakobrekla We see that the MTGox data feed is not entirely reliable and also from an engineering perspective, its technical implementation really is very confusing and not well structured. [01:44]
kakobrekla They are using what is called a web socket and then on top of that Socket I/O . This is unnecessary and the method by which this is implemented is not technically correct. [01:44]
kakobrekla #win [01:44]
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kakobrekla and they will support btc-e and bitstamp and the local bar toilet hole [01:45]
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kakobrekla retarded. [01:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.11 = 11.1 BTC [+] [01:48]
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error4733 " Trading through with MTGox through Sierra Chart is not yet supported. This should be supported within the next 30 days. " [01:50]
Namworld Damn just bought some BTC [01:50]
error4733 Ho Ho Ho, chrismas before time [01:50]
Namworld I don't like buying at those prices [01:50]
Namworld But some wanted to redeem some BTC-BOND [01:50]
kakobrekla i wouldnt worry error4733, its gonna suck as much as gox sucks [01:50]
gribble There are currently 27835.495 bitcoins demanded at or over 100.0 USD, worth 2997236.30925 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0092 seconds [01:51]
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error4733 its was [01:51]
error4733 !bids 101 [01:52]
error4733 [22:20] There are currently 20546.789 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2270526.2342 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0054 seconds [01:52]
error4733 3h ago [01:52]
error4733 ;;bids 101 [01:52]
gribble There are currently 21613.226 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 2374477.9266 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.8428 seconds [01:52]
error4733 nvm... [01:53]
dub apparently you can pay gox for a more realtimey socket, SC should do that [01:53]
kakobrekla they offer that? [01:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00365 = 0.073 BTC [-] [01:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 40 @ 0.0036 = 0.144 BTC [-] [01:53]
dub according to neofutur they do [01:54]
kakobrekla uhh? [01:54]
dub he is some form of gox lackey/shill [01:54]
dub erryday im shillin [01:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00219 BTC [+] [01:56]
dub shillin villain style [01:56]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-] [02:01]
Namworld Really no GSDPT holder? [02:03]
Namworld I have a good offer... [02:04]
ThickAsThieves Nam what are oy asking about GSDPT? [02:05]
ThickAsThieves you* [02:05]
ThickAsThieves i think i have some [02:05]
error4733 take that MtGox : The streaming data feed from MTGox is not working at the moment. Their server is just not streaming any data. They really have serious reliability and efficiency problems. From what we can see, there whole architecture was not designed for efficiency. Obviously they will know best, but what we see is that one of their main problems is not so much that they have overwhelmed systems, more that they d [02:06]
error4733 o not have efficient data delivery. [02:06]
Namworld I want to sell into those bids. I'll offer a 5% bonus for trade with S.DICE-PT units [02:06]
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ThickAsThieves i'm wrong [02:07]
ThickAsThieves i have none [02:07]
ThickAsThieves forgot i sold [02:07]
ThickAsThieves been away for a few days [02:07]
Namworld So like 4000 GSDPT units for 4200 S.DICE-PT if anyone else is interested [02:07]
ThickAsThieves i asked DT about moving some of my BF shares and he never got back to me [02:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.0022 BTC [+] [02:08]
Namworld He was here earlier [02:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 28 @ 0.00221 = 0.0619 BTC [+] [02:08]
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dub scamtrading [02:09]
dub lmiot [02:09]
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Namworld lmiot? [02:09]
dub hao aboot 1337 shares of usagicorp for 300btc of pirate debt [02:10]
dub let me in on that [02:10]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol [02:12]
mircea_popescu these haters not understanding socket i/o over web socket geniuz. [02:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @ 0.00221 = 0.0044 BTC [+] [02:12]
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Namworld Eh, whatever, dub [02:13]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136658053566.jpg bwahaha who did this ? [02:14]
kakobrekla lolz [02:15]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09 BTC [-] [02:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.085001 = 5.425 BTC [-] [02:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.085 = 3.255 BTC [-] [02:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08002 BTC [-] [02:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.08 BTC [-] [02:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.003581 = 0.1791 BTC [-] [02:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 60 @ 0.00351 = 0.2106 BTC [-] [02:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.06 BTC [-] [02:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.055 BTC [-] [02:43]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: Dude Capital One sabotaged Bitfloor [02:52]
mircea_popescu heh. [02:52]
thestringpuller We process for them and I'm looking at documents... [02:53]
thestringpuller holy shit this is soooo fucked up [02:53]
error4733 stop teasing [02:54]
thestringpuller I don't know who is on the wrong, but they claim "Undue risk" [02:55]
thestringpuller I wonder who will be next :P [02:56]
thestringpuller Looks like exchanges are better off storing the fiat under matresses... [02:56]
kakobrekla nah, they should buy bitcoin with that fiat [02:58]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.00351 = 0.0281 BTC [-] [03:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1768 @ 0.0035 = 6.188 BTC [-] [03:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.82999989 BTC [+] [03:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 243 @ 0.0035 = 0.8505 BTC [-] [03:19]
mircea_popescu this is an interesting concept. what risk is due ? [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.05 = 5.25 BTC [-] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.0461 BTC [-] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.033 BTC [-] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.025 BTC [-] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.011 = 2.022 BTC [-] [03:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.01 = 5.05 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.001 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-] [03:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00069635 = 8.8436 BTC [-] [03:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 550 @ 0.0014 = 0.77 BTC [-] [03:27]
kakobrekla well you could mitigate at least a portion of it [03:30]
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kakobrekla (ab)use mpex bot and then you are as weak as the weakest link [03:31]
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kakobrekla i mean no, the strongest [03:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82999989 = 3.66 BTC [+] [03:32]
kakobrekla is it not so? [03:32]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu Capital One hate's risk, their loyalty platform runs in cobol because they are terrified of change... [03:43]
thestringpuller that's what happens when you're "Too big to fail" the smallest amount of risk is "unsettling" [03:44]
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thestringpuller but it's kind of bullshit since most banks to unethical/illicit things anyways... [03:44]
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kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=182685.0 [03:49]
kakobrekla >The company’s trading algorithms currently run on electronic exchanges such as Nasdaq, BATS, EDGE, NYSE, and BTC-E. [03:49]
kakobrekla i think he is 21 days late. [03:49]
kakobrekla or 20, depends what your local time is. [03:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.4855555 = 4.37 BTC [+] [03:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00069717 = 7.7386 BTC [+] [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6224 @ 0.000695 = 4.3257 BTC [-] [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1926 @ 0.00069452 = 1.3376 BTC [-] [03:59]
dub thestringpuller: not suprising really, don't know about US but here there is legistlation covering banking technology [04:00]
dub e.g. if a bank causes losses due to technical fuckup people can get charged with a crime [04:02]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol [04:03]
mircea_popescu Shares: 100,000 Price: .20 bitcoins, but tbd by free market [04:04]
mircea_popescu imo the best part. [04:04]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT [04:04]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1 / 1.09486 / 1.2 (182 shares, 199.3 BTC), 7D: 0.79 / 1.08844 / 1.75 (1627 shares, 1770.9 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.82495 / 1.75 (8260 shares, 6814.1 BTC) [04:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1098 BTC [+] [04:04]
mircea_popescu he's going to do 3x better than asicminer on the strength of having made a forum post. [04:05]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what is your opinion on asicminer? [04:06]
mircea_popescu bout the same as a month ago [04:06]
thestringpuller I never got the memo. [04:06]
thestringpuller CAUSE IT'S BEHIND A PAYWALL! [04:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.1098 = 8.8784 BTC [+] [04:08]
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mircea_popescu well... [04:11]
mircea_popescu i dont think i ever wrote about it on my blog [04:12]
mircea_popescu i think you just asked me the same q a month ago [04:12]
taub what is that picture of your family gathering about [04:12]
taub is MPOE-PR female now or not [04:12]
taub i'm foncused :( [04:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.01 = 2.02 BTC [-] [04:13]
mircea_popescu cool [04:13]
thestringpuller WINTER IS COMING [04:15]
thestringpuller Mark my words [04:15]
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mod6 haha wat? it's been snowing here all month. [04:16]
mod6 winter is still here. [04:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.05 = 10.5 BTC [+] [04:16]
mircea_popescu my rosemary bush is in bloom [04:16]
mircea_popescu you've not seen something like this, it looks like a lilac. [04:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.41001 = 1.64 BTC [-] [04:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.41 BTC [-] [04:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @ 0.19989 = 1.9989 BTC [+] [04:17]
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mod6 we got like 7" of snow last week easy. [04:18]
bowjob http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ele/3758263779.html [04:18]
mircea_popescu https://www.bitlc.net/ lol [04:18]
bowjob lol [04:18]
stslimited hello kakobrekla from bitcointalk suggested I come here [04:18]
stslimited regarding an upcoming IPO posting [04:18]
stslimited thread I made [04:18]
mircea_popescu lmao [04:19]
kakobrekla he did the right thing! [04:19]
stslimited great, conditioning in its finest [04:19]
dub mircea_popescu: tl;dr [04:19]
mircea_popescu Domestic Limited-Liability Company [04:19]
mircea_popescu File Number: 2012-000626131 [04:19]
mircea_popescu Filing State: Wyoming (WY) [04:19]
mircea_popescu Company Age: 9 Months [04:19]
mircea_popescu Principal Address: Po Box 20539 [04:19]
mircea_popescu New York, NY 10001 [04:19]
mircea_popescu Mailing Address: Po Box 20539 [04:19]
mircea_popescu New York, NY 10001 [04:19]
mircea_popescu is that you ? [04:19]
stslimited yes, continued from Nevada [04:20]
stslimited so 2 years [04:20]
mircea_popescu are you that fuckwited in the head to imagine anyone in bitcoin gives two shits about your pointless llc ? [04:20]
stslimited elaborate? [04:20]
stslimited people are interested in high frequency trading [04:20]
mircea_popescu no. shut the fuck up. [04:20]
thestringpuller hahahaha [04:20]
stslimited go on [04:20]
mircea_popescu read here for six months or a year [04:21]
mircea_popescu get with the program [04:21]
mircea_popescu then maybe you ipo something for 500 or so coins. [04:21]
mircea_popescu maybe. [04:21]
stslimited you haven't told me anything about what the problem with the document was [04:21]
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mircea_popescu there is no document [04:22]
stslimited the OP [04:22]
stslimited the thread [04:22]
mircea_popescu just an ignorant idiot (you) [04:22]
mircea_popescu now stop talking to me before you go on my ignore [04:22]
mircea_popescu and do what you are told. [04:22]
thestringpuller lol wow this is the most upset I've seen mr. popescu [04:22]
thestringpuller good job stslimited [04:22]
mircea_popescu no but it's beyond outrage this shit. [04:22]
stslimited I mean, harr harr senior member of an incrowd picks on new user in their own channel [04:23]
stslimited woop de doo thats never happened on the internet [04:23]
mircea_popescu i mean asicminer trades 6k btc in a month on btct herpderp here's guy with a 20k btc plan. [04:23]
stslimited okay [04:23]
mircea_popescu he has no fucking idea what's what and we're all playing at internets. [04:23]
kakobrekla lmao [04:23]
mircea_popescu doth not work, this. [04:23]
stslimited oh, the number of shares was in bitcoins [04:24]
mircea_popescu x.x [04:24]
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stslimited why do you feel that an algorithmic trading fund is not structured as correctly as the mining share companies [04:25]
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stslimited this is what I came in here for [04:25]
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stslimited!*@* added to ignore list. [04:25]
thestringpuller ;;getatin stslimited [04:26]
gribble Error: "getatin" is not a valid command. [04:26]
thestringpuller ;;getrating stslimited [04:26]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated. [04:26]
thestringpuller okay lets start [04:26]
thestringpuller I'm a n00b [04:27]
thestringpuller And even I am in the OTC [04:27]
thestringpuller you are not [04:27]
thestringpuller why should I invest in you? [04:27]
thestringpuller how can I even trust you? [04:27]
thestringpuller yes... [04:27]
thestringpuller WoT so to speak [04:27]
thestringpuller (Web of Trust) [04:27]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is he on your ignore yet? [04:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.0056 BTC [+] [04:28]
mircea_popescu yes. [04:28]
dub thestringpuller: just because every hft/etf in bitcoin to date has been a thinly disguised robbery don't mean this guy aint legit [04:28]
thestringpuller sign me up! [04:28]
dub LMIOT [04:28]
mircea_popescu dub i thought you were with the tl;dr program [04:28]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what is that bitcoin drama timeline post you had? [04:28]
mircea_popescu ok i gotta try this [04:29]
mircea_popescu ;;google bitcoin drama timeline post i had [04:29]
gribble BitCoin Drama Continues After Hours | Zero Hedge: ; The Bitcoin Drama Timeline pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; bitcoin posts on CNET - Cnet TV: [04:29]
mircea_popescu pesky zh how dare they [04:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00391 BTC [+] [04:29]
thestringpuller stslimited: read http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/ [04:29]
dub stslimited: there probably is one, and certianly many operating in private, the problem as mircea_popescu is trying to elloquate is trust [04:30]
mircea_popescu no. [04:30]
mircea_popescu the problem i am discussing is ignorance. this fuckwit proceeds to not even bother researching the field before "building" nonsense. [04:30]
dub stslimited: you really need to start small and earn it, there is no easy route [04:30]
thestringpuller ^ exactly [04:31]
mircea_popescu he has no fucking idea about anything whatsoever other than "o i saw this [uninformed] thing about bitcoin cause the price went up" [04:31]
thestringpuller what does it matter? [04:31]
dub stslimited: this is for the obvious reason that there is no way for anyone to recover bitcoins entrusted to you if you decide to be untrustworth [04:31]
dub *y [04:31]
thestringpuller stslimited: lets take a look at numbers [04:31]
thestringpuller For the actuarially inclined, the total losses to theft, fraud and stupidity plus anything in between amount to 1.296 million BTC. [04:31]
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thestringpuller Even if you have the best intentions, this world is ruthless. [04:32]
thestringpuller So how would you not end up losing money? [04:32]
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thestringpuller even if not from directly trying to scam us, you maybe inept like many others before you [04:32]
thestringpuller then you are added the graveyard of dead companies that keeps piling up [04:32]
thestringpuller another body [04:32]
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kakobrekla pirates nav increas was very nice [04:33]
thestringpuller HAHAHAHA [04:33]
kakobrekla indeed [04:33]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla aussie_striker's is better. go with the found. [04:33]
thestringpuller that fact you don't know who pirate is raises grave concerns [04:33]
thestringpuller you are unwilling to educate yourself, and that is mircea_popescu's issue [04:34]
thestringpuller are you kidding? [04:34]
thestringpuller there are millions upon millions of dollars done in trade in otc [04:35]
thestringpuller the WoT is for bitcoin millionaires to quote MPOE-PR, the very people who's coin you are trying to solicity [04:35]
thestringpuller solicit* [04:35]
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thestringpuller Yes, but take a look at Ziggap. [04:37]
thestringpuller Ziggap was in theory a competitor to Bitinstant, and it's IPO sold out in some like 3-5 hours [04:37]
dub theres no real reason to try to persuade us [04:37]
dub just do it and be prepared for flames [04:38]
dub and for only noobs to throw money at it [04:38]
thestringpuller Ziggap was ipo'ed by someone who has one of the highest WoT rating [04:38]
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thestringpuller yet it's price has plummeted below IPO levels just like facebook [04:38]
dub thats not a good example [04:38]
thestringpuller how are you so sure you won't encounter hurdles as you scale even if you have "a proven platform" [04:38]
kakobrekla thestringpuller, who had, not has. [04:38]
dub aethero's wot is made up of all teh micro loan muppets [04:39]
kakobrekla true [04:39]
dub he screams scammer [04:39]
thestringpuller yes, kakobrekla had* my mistake [04:39]
kakobrekla dat also [04:39]
thestringpuller ^ - yup [04:39]
mircea_popescu dub how did the entire aethero thing play out btw ? [04:39]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: it's still in progress [04:39]
dub dunno, I wouldnt touch it with yours [04:39]
thestringpuller "to be continued" [04:39]
mircea_popescu i c [04:40]
thestringpuller the website is super down [04:40]
mircea_popescu last i heard the website was donw and deprived was smelling blood. [04:40]
thestringpuller I think they went bankrupt. [04:40]
thestringpuller Someone gamed them, using the chargebacks. [04:40]
thestringpuller So they had to shut down. [04:41]
thestringpuller but it is. how long have you been operating, and what are your profit margins? [04:41]
thestringpuller how come this is the first ANYONE in this channel has heard of you? [04:41]
dub stslimited: some guidelines for you: 1) stop trying to hype your deal here, anyone with coin has already tuned out 2) hype notwithstanding; obtain an IRC client, stay in this channel and contribute 3) show us your id, shit you have done before, show up IRL at bitcoiny things [04:43]
dub stslimited: 4) do your hft thing, you'll probably get some bites, be prepared to start small and 5) don't steal peoples shit [04:44]
thestringpuller stslimited: don't try to go from gangst to godfather in a night [04:44]
thestringpuller gangsta* [04:44]
mircea_popescu since when is dub a contributing member with like positive shit and everything ?! [04:44]
mircea_popescu how long have i been asleep ?! [04:44]
thestringpuller Hahahaha. Since tonight it seems. :D [04:45]
dub sometimes I forget to troll [04:45]
thestringpuller dub is full of surprises [04:45]
mircea_popescu lol k [04:45]
thestringpuller 6) don't piss off mircea_popescu [04:45]
dub or maybe I'm just trolling you guys be encouraging the latest scam [04:46]
mircea_popescu the moral of the story being that the more of an asshole i am, the more inclined even the hardcorest trolls are to halp. [04:46]
thestringpuller oooh a popescu meme appears [04:47]
thestringpuller picture of popescu frowning: "I'm real tired of your shit" [04:47]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/themes/trilema/images/bg_july2009.jpg [04:48]
mircea_popescu there's your base [04:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11126 @ 0.00069525 = 7.7354 BTC [+] [04:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00069789 = 7.3976 BTC [+] [04:50]
thestringpuller you smokin a blunt mircea_popescu ? [04:50]
thestringpuller lololol [04:50]
mircea_popescu i can not say for legal considerations i can not disclose. [04:50]
dub stslimited: the moral is you are completely unknown and asking people to let you hold their irreversably transferred internet coins [04:50]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller anyway the deprived theory iirc was that the entire ipo was simply to float living expenses and that was all. [04:54]
mircea_popescu sorta like a simplified bdt [04:55]
thestringpuller we all saw how BDT went... [04:55]
kakobrekla i called that one here. [04:56]
kakobrekla for the record. [04:56]
dub lol [04:56]
kakobrekla :p [04:56]
thestringpuller i wonder how many ipo's ended up being pocketed... [04:56]
dub I'm still waiting for credit on calling usagi [04:56]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yeah [04:57]
thestringpuller usagi is just inept [04:58]
dub s/ept/sane [04:58]
thestringpuller HAH [04:58]
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thestringpuller stslimited: uh not S.DICE and S.MPOE [04:58]
thestringpuller those are pretty old [04:58]
thestringpuller S.BBET is pretty young [04:59]
mircea_popescu dub you can't get credit. would you like a debit ? [04:59]
thestringpuller ZigGap stands on top as the most trusted method for purchasing BTC, and plans to offer the widest array of methods to buy Bitcoin. <<< lol [04:59]
dub just enroll me in the next tranch of $MEME.Z [04:59]
thestringpuller XD [04:59]
kakobrekla ;;rate dub 1 credit on calling usagi [05:00]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user dub has changed from 1 to 1. [05:00]
dub bewm [05:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.096 BTC [-] [05:00]
mircea_popescu so wtf was this bitlc thing in the end ? [05:00]
mircea_popescu i never could figure it out and now it's gone. [05:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.091 = 0.455 BTC [-] [05:00]
thestringpuller dub: were you the one who made the "Usagi ftw" bet? [05:01]
thestringpuller "Usagi will have an asset listed on MPEX by April 1st 2013" [05:01]
kakobrekla rg suddenly has time to troll in -otc [05:02]
thestringpuller or something like that [05:02]
kakobrekla thats a twist [05:02]
kakobrekla or maybe has been going for a while [05:02]
dub thestringpuller: negative [05:02]
kakobrekla dunno [05:02]
dub the only bet I made was 'DMC will never do anything every and eveyone will lose money' it got rejected :( [05:03]
dub ever* [05:03]
dub oh wait I did th empex will get hacked one too [05:03]
mircea_popescu https://www.bitlc.net/assets/system_infrastructure_full.jpg this makes so little sense it boggles my mind [05:03]
mircea_popescu mpex was hacked ? [05:04]
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dub no when you offered reddit a bounty to hack it [05:05]
mircea_popescu o yeah [05:07]
orkaa mircea_popescu, i love the 'no internet access' server on ec2 [05:07]
mircea_popescu orkaa also what use does a pool server have of a dedicated db server ? [05:07]
mircea_popescu maybe i don't understand mining but... mempool right ? it's in ram. [05:07]
dub gotta store balances and shit [05:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is really just a clever new way of promoting "VM escape exploit" research. [05:09]
mircea_popescu spell that out for me [05:09]
asciilifeform sometimes, exploits are discovered that let you break out of a VM (like the onces on Amazon's EC2) and take over the physical hardware [05:10]
asciilifeform from that point, you can snoop/modify the customer VMs, for whatever purpose you like. [05:10]
asciilifeform *ones [05:10]
mircea_popescu so he's holding btcs in there to encourage others to try and break into his amazon vm ? [05:10]
asciilifeform maybe not deliberately, but what difference does it make [05:11]
mircea_popescu such a conspiracist you are [05:11]
asciilifeform he even helpfully tells us that we need to exploit EC2/Ireland. [05:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you are aware this is a dead service right ? [05:13]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: well... now I am. [05:14]
asciilifeform I don't really keep up with btcdrama in real time [05:14]
dub this is why I defended linode, erryone crying about linode security, nobody pointing finger at the tards running hot wallet on shared servers [05:14]
mircea_popescu cjeck out the root, it's on the amusing side of lol. [05:15]
mircea_popescu dub at the time we were poor. [05:15]
thestringpuller The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why. [05:15]
thestringpuller MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it. [05:15]
thestringpuller Something smells rotten in Denmark.The mean stream media (msm) seem to be hyping bitcoin lately and I can't figure why. [05:15]
mircea_popescu the idea that "only dedicated for bitcoin" is a lot harder to push on a 1.5 dollar btc [05:15]
thestringpuller MSM is presenting bitcoin in a much better light than it use to. It is being featured on WSJ, BBC, ft, CNN, CNBC, etc. These outfits are not known for featuring the real stories, or at least those that question the status quo. We constantly criticize the msm for its sycophantic propagandist reporting, but because they are featuring bitcoin we are cool with it. [05:15]
thestringpuller oops [05:16]
thestringpuller WOW LAG [05:16]
thestringpuller WHY PUTTY WHY DID YOU MAKE ME SPAM [05:17]
thestringpuller :( [05:17]
kakobrekla shit tyrone, get it together. [05:17]
asciilifeform thestringpuller: people with old-fashioned money and connections bought in. This much is clear as daylight at this point. [05:17]
mircea_popescu ya think ?! [05:17]
Namworld I'm not so sure about that [05:20]
Namworld The news seem to be dying [05:20]
Namworld Seems more like a fad [05:20]
Namworld Than anything [05:20]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181245.0;all quoted for bolded paragraph [05:20]
Namworld And with the peak and crash, now that it returned lower [05:20]
Namworld No longer that interesting [05:20]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [05:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 121.00001, Best ask: 121.53998, Bid-ask spread: 0.53997, Last trade: 121.00001, 24 hour volume: 98052.49947353, 24 hour low: 110.00000, 24 hour high: 129.00000, 24 hour vwap: 120.94707 [05:20]
asciilifeform re: the defunct EC2 wallet: I'd advise anyone against telling his web host that he is hosting a wallet on the latter's disks. Or, for that matter, letting it be known that a certain bank deposit box has paper coldwallets in it. [05:20]
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mircea_popescu seems pretty decent to me, 120. [05:21]
asciilifeform your hosting provider and bank manager might be saints, or they might not be. [05:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform im pretty sure it's impossible for bank manager to go into boxes. [05:21]
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asciilifeform however it is the police (or hypothetical Gold Confiscators (TM) ) get in [05:22]
asciilifeform locksmiths exist, etc [05:22]
asciilifeform pretty much everything upon this earth that is worth back-dooring, has been back-doored (esp. in the good old U.S.A.) [05:23]
mircea_popescu actually, the evolution of paper gold vs rthe real article has been fascinating past week [05:23]
mircea_popescu the premium is what, 30% by now ? [05:23]
Namworld Yeah, I just mean, about the media, seems like they moved to the next thing. [05:23]
mircea_popescu Namworld a good thing i say. [05:23]
Namworld BTC price is still decent. Seems a bit high tho [05:23]
mircea_popescu no bubble to see here, move on to shiny rocvks. [05:23]
Namworld Of course it's a good thing [05:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: AFAIK "allocated" paper has been pretty close to the price of physical [05:23]
Namworld That hype didn't do much good. [05:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not lately. [05:24]
mircea_popescu paper has been dumped massively. [05:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: *allocated* paper. example: Bullionvault corp. new york branch quotes $1422 (buy; http://www.bullionvault.com/) Canadian mint: $1419. (http://www.apmex.com/Category/1158/1_oz_Gold_Bars_Only.aspx) [05:26]
asciilifeform one could debate whether allocated paper-gold is any less of a ripoff than the usual imaginary kind, but the fact remains. [05:27]
dub mircea_popescu: that thread is gold [05:29]
dub I like the cut of this pizza's gib [05:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform hm right you are [05:29]
asciilifeform I will describe a process for extracting paper wallets from a bank box, just so it doesn't surprise anyone when it actually happens: [05:30]
asciilifeform one day, a bomb threat is called into the bank [05:30]
asciilifeform police dogs search the place, find no bomb [05:30]
asciilifeform but the deposit box room is found to smell a little of marijuana [05:30]
asciilifeform the boxes are opened, the contents photographed. [05:31]
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asciilifeform and so forth. [05:31]
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kakobrekla start writing books or something [05:31]
kakobrekla that could work [05:31]
mircea_popescu containers aren't opened are they. [05:31]
asciilifeform depends. perhaps your envelope will smell especially strongly. (squirt bottle.) [05:32]
mircea_popescu dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173227.msg1907593#msg1907593 have more. [05:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform afaik this has not in fact happened, [05:32]
mircea_popescu ie you still need a court order and identified boxes tio have tghem opened. [05:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I didn't say it had already happened. [05:33]
mircea_popescu a a [05:33]
kakobrekla >Reported to police (they are really no help, so much for paying their salary, seems they've gotten fbi reports about bitcoins and don't really like them, started asking if I pay taxes on them...), [05:33]
kakobrekla O_O [05:33]
mircea_popescu well for that money if you can check out womenyou can probably have [05:33]
mircea_popescu oops [05:33]
asciilifeform they had door-to-door house searches in Boston last week, without any messy paperwork. [05:34]
mircea_popescu well for that money if you can check out women's parts through clothes you can probably check out printed paper through sheet metal [05:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah. pretty outrageous stuff that. [05:34]
asciilifeform in any system, find the real weak point. anyone who can access the vault during off-hours and pause the camera recorder, can pick the locks at his leisure. [05:34]
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mircea_popescu banks aren't video rental stores. [05:36]
asciilifeform my point wasn't that this kind of scenario will become routine, but that it is unwise to tell people without a need-to-know exactly where your coldwallet physically lives. [05:36]
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dub whats that movie where some limeys steal royal noodz from a deposit box? [05:36]
mircea_popescu well for sure it's unwise to spread info wider than it needs to go. [05:37]
mircea_popescu dub one of the many dumbass things where that guy from pulp fiction tries to parlay his momentary fame into a career ? [05:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: from the standpoint of an owner or other person with unhindered physical access, a bank is exactly the same as a video store. [05:37]
mircea_popescu nobody has unhindered access tho. [05:37]
asciilifeform firemen. banks do occasionally burn. esp. if they need to. [05:38]
mircea_popescu ya, fire is a serious problem for paper wallets. [05:39]
mircea_popescu with or without all this complex discussion. [05:39]
asciilifeform which is why you store it in 35 places, and use Shamir's algorithm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_sharing) [05:40]
asciilifeform and no one but you should know of more than a few of them. [05:41]
Namworld So tell me mircea, are you short on BTC right now? [05:41]
mircea_popescu Namworld nah. [05:41]
Namworld I'm one of the few bears around in the "speculation" channels it seems. [05:42]
mircea_popescu you have to understand tho, none of the major players will even be net short for strategic reasons. [05:42]
mircea_popescu not if they have any sense anyway. [05:42]
Namworld I suppose [05:43]
Namworld Still [05:43]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180663.0 [05:43]
Namworld You've probably read a few news as we approached the peak. They were getting... crazy/unlikely. Quite the craze. [05:44]
Namworld I decided to go short [05:44]
Namworld I do not regret [05:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.1 = 5.5 BTC [-] [05:44]
mircea_popescu if you shorted over 200 you're well in the money now. [05:45]
Namworld I shorted what I had available at 230-250 [05:45]
Namworld I'm quite sad I had so much placed into assets at that time [05:46]
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mircea_popescu um [05:47]
mircea_popescu whart do you mean ? shorting and selling are different concepts. [05:47]
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Namworld Yes, my bad. [05:48]
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pizzaman1337 I wonder what will become of this sillyness: https://twitter.com/mikko/status/326237176402673664 [12:11]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 for the record : nothing. [12:11]
pizzaman1337 mmk [12:12]
mircea_popescu also the guy is blocked on my twitter, which means he must have been sts-like at some point [12:12]
pizzaman1337 Mikko? he's just a researcher [12:13]
MJR_ hey [12:13]
MJR_ how's it going everyone [12:13]
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mircea_popescu o look who's back [12:14]
MJR_ hehehe [12:14]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 musta done some real bad research i guess [12:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2495 BTC [+] [12:42]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.25 = 2.5 BTC [+] [12:44]
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bit_nutz mt gox stop trading in sgd? [12:52]
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mircea_popescu yes, preparing for introduction of ltc etc [12:53]
bit_nutz i see, thanks mp [12:53]
mircea_popescu bit_nutz i was being facetious, for the record. [12:55]
MJR_ lol they haven't goxxed ltc yet... [12:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6588 @ 0.00069834 = 4.6007 BTC [+] [12:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3018 @ 0.00070857 = 2.1385 BTC [+] [12:57]
mircea_popescu ahh romanian smoked cheese + anchoves on american style pancakes [12:57]
mircea_popescu fusion is where it's at i tell you! [12:58]
MJR_ :) [12:59]
MJR_ eventually we can open the first romanian fusion haute cuisine restaurant that accepts bitcoin lol [12:59]
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mircea_popescu get 3.5 michelin stars [13:25]
jurov greets from budapest...finally :) [13:35]
jurov but i realized i don't have anywhere to rush anyway [13:35]
MJR_ jurov: HI! [13:37]
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mircea_popescu jurov is becoming a philosopher :D [13:39]
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mircea_popescu ;;goxlag [13:49]
gribble MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU). [13:49]
mircea_popescu whoa! mtgox is finally ready for hft! [13:50]
jurov Hi mjr_ [13:50]
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bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0 [14:09]
bowjob Someone take me up on this >:) [14:09]
mircea_popescu bowjob you forgot to include an url [14:10]
bowjob right [14:11]
bowjob I feel confident in this game, that I;m willing to do a 1:10 odds [14:11]
bowjob So, bet 0,1 btc, win 1 BTC if you can beat me [14:11]
Uglux or play sd ^^ [14:12]
bowjob http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-assets [14:13]
bowjob oops [14:13]
bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.0 [14:13]
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bowjob SD is a guaranteed loss overtime [14:16]
bowjob unless you are a shareholder [14:16]
Scrat 29,99€ for an arcade? [14:16]
Scrat no fuck you capcom [14:17]
bowjob it should be worth more than that. the game is fun as hell [14:17]
damientrog Shareholders also lose on SD :/ [14:25]
damientrog I remember buying at 0.6 [14:25]
bowjob I got out at 0.62 [14:25]
bowjob :p [14:25]
bowjob and 0.75. I missed out on the 0.19 panic [14:25]
troc 0.12 even [14:26]
troc any news ? [14:26]
bowjob did it go that low? O; [14:26]
damientrog yeah I bought at 0.2 as well [14:26]
damientrog and resold at .45 [14:26]
damientrog so it's not all bad [14:26]
damientrog but still [14:26]
damientrog I have a respectable amount of shares in SD [14:26]
troc at least div is looking better this month [14:27]
damientrog that's good news [14:27]
troc https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1906329#msg1906329 [14:27]
bowjob the bet volume isnt too good [14:28]
damientrog the higher value of BTC [14:28]
damientrog the lower the volume that will be bet [14:28]
damientrog yeah I love this dooglus guy [14:29]
bowjob the argument against that was.. as btc price grows, more people use them.. and more play on s.dice [14:29]
damientrog he must really be into statistics :) [14:29]
bowjob dooglus.. he played satoshi dice before [14:29]
bowjob about 600 dollars bet [14:29]
bowjob back then when btc was single to double digits [14:29]
damientrog I've done my bets as well [14:30]
damientrog and won very well [14:30]
damientrog then quit [14:30]
bowjob wise decision [14:30]
damientrog and bought shares in the house [14:30]
damientrog since the house always wins, so I thougth :) [14:30]
bowjob hah. thats how riches are made [14:30]
damientrog I hope… :) [14:31]
damientrog but I like Erik as well, I trust he'll come up with something to revive SD [14:31]
troc ev speaks well, always impresses me how he communicates on air. [14:32]
damientrog yup a very good advocate for Bitcoin [14:32]
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bowjob no ones taking me up on my offer. are the odds too low? [14:33]
deadweasel nobody wants to buy the game for a chance to lose to you. [14:34]
deadweasel methinks [14:34]
deadweasel plus it's time for work. ;) [14:34]
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damientrog deadweasel is right :) [14:34]
MJR_ i wonder... [14:35]
MJR_ are there any charts or order books that account for OTC? [14:35]
MJR_ there is a 6000 coin sell at ~123 [14:35]
MJR_ and a 8000 coin buy at 125 [14:35]
bowjob well confession bear here.. I think the odds are 99.9% in my favour lol [14:35]
damientrog ah you're just here to elate your ego :) [14:36]
damientrog and we're too pussy to prove you wrong [14:36]
bowjob nah. i want some btc. :3 [14:37]
mircea_popescu MJR_ prolly something you can make. not so hard to query the book [14:37]
bowjob Thinking of offering a free game if... they deposit at least 1 btc to john [14:37]
bowjob There is a risk for me.. [14:37]
bowjob if someone out there in an A ranker, I'd get destroyed [14:37]
MJR_ well, i would like to make $12000 on one order... [14:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.01498 = 0.1049 BTC [+] [14:38]
troc rock, paper ... scissors ? How can you be an A ranker in that over the net ? [14:40]
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bowjob punches beat throws, throws beat blocks and blocks beat punches [14:46]
Sin|CRUNK bowjob: offer to buy them the game if they deposit 1 btc [14:47]
bowjob rock paper scissors system. its a game where you beat your opponents using those moves, [14:47]
bowjob Yes, I'm thinking about it [14:47]
bowjob I still need to talk to john about this, he can be my escrow [14:48]
bowjob I'm still brainstorming rules, taking into account for latency [14:55]
bowjob There, done. [14:55]
bowjob Taking any and all challengers [14:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9633 @ 0.00070857 = 6.8257 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2476 @ 0.00070989 = 1.7577 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639998 = 0.8892 BTC [+] [15:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29639999 BTC [+] [15:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29639999 = 0.8892 BTC [+] [15:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19989 BTC [+] [15:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.11 = 3.33 BTC [-] [15:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.296499 = 2.965 BTC [+] [15:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.296499 = 1.4825 BTC [+] [15:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.296499 BTC [+] [15:15]
bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142 [15:18]
bowjob updated. [15:18]
bowjob anything else should I include? [15:18]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.19989 = 0.3998 BTC [+] [15:28]
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bowjob sure [15:32]
bowjob u got the game alreayd? [15:32]
bowjob heck we can go old school if you want. [15:32]
bowjob play SF2. its a game older than me [15:32]
bowjob :) [15:32]
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bowjob any proposals? [15:33]
bowjob id love to get my hands on skullgirls, but they are not out yet [15:33]
Sin|CRUNK isn't it out for ps3 [15:34]
bowjob it is, but not for pc [15:34]
orkaa http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/48547675807/the-definitive-people-who-thought-chechnya-was-the [15:34]
orkaa a nice wall of ameritards [15:35]
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bowjob im watching th rules [15:36]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 9 @ 0.013 = 0.117 BTC [-] [15:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0126 = 0.1008 BTC [-] [15:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 4 @ 0.0125 = 0.05 BTC [-] [15:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 17 @ 0.012 = 0.204 BTC [-] [15:42]
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bowjob you gave me an idea [15:45]
kakobrekla OMG fuckin bitstamp idiots [15:45]
kakobrekla they cant even figure out whats wrong with their website / "exchange" / toilet hole [15:46]
bowjob I added a second game to play [15:46]
bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183044.msg1910142#msg1910142 [15:46]
bowjob I;m thinking 1:1 on team fortress as well, but its not fit for a 1v1 game. [15:46]
bowjob nah [15:47]
bowjob the game is too rigid for me [15:47]
bowjob yeah [15:47]
daybyter Great! [15:47]
daybyter <= likes chess... [15:48]
bowjob i still have to learn the basic strats for it [15:48]
bowjob i know the moves, ect [15:48]
daybyter I've actually coded a chess engine once... [15:48]
daybyter but it's quite poor.. [15:48]
bowjob oh wow. they have a surgeon simulator videogame [15:49]
bowjob lol [15:49]
bowjob wait i quit the vid miday [15:50]
bowjob midway [15:50]
bowjob lol [15:50]
bowjob perhaps later. its bedtime for me now, its 5:50 AM [15:50]
bowjob >_> [15:50]
daybyter oh...2:51 pm here... [15:51]
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bowjob truffles, game of tactics arena? [15:53]
bowjob :3 [15:53]
bowjob no btcs, consider it a warmup [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.104 = 2.208 BTC [-] [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103001 BTC [-] [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.103 BTC [-] [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.102 BTC [-] [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10001 BTC [-] [15:53]
bowjob http://www.tacticsarena.com/play/ [15:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.07 = 6.42 BTC [-] [15:53]
bowjob ill wait for u on banff server [15:54]
bowjob im here now [15:54]
bowjob turn based strategy [15:54]
bowjob k, the game randomly picks who moves first [15:55]
bowjob i pick my move, then ur turn. the goal is you kill more of my guys than you kill of me [15:55]
bowjob u playin? [15:57]
bowjob im in banff [15:57]
bowjob aye [15:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [+] [15:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 76 @ 0.2965 = 22.534 BTC [+] [15:58]
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bowjob yeap [16:00]
bowjob wanna go at it? [16:00]
bowjob floor 7 [16:00]
bowjob wait lemme set up [16:00]
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bowjob my guys. u can chang etheir beginning stances [16:00]
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bowjob ready [16:02]
deadweasel https://btc.sx/?tab=signup [16:03]
deadweasel somebody alpha testing this. [16:03]
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deadweasel user Sealy in bitcoin-analysis... interesting. [16:03]
bowjob enter [16:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 53 @ 0.003679 = 0.195 BTC [+] [16:19]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00209 BTC [-] [16:21]
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kakobrekla this one is new to me http://i.imgur.com/vlKihqr.jpg [16:26]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19999 BTC [+] [16:29]
bowjob would anyone be interested in rare pockies [16:30]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1999 BTC [-] [16:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.2 = 3.6 BTC [+] [16:41]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.2 = 7.2 BTC [+] [16:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+] [16:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4699 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.47 = 9.4 BTC [+] [16:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.225 = 9.8 BTC [+] [16:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [-] [16:50]
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bowjob how do i quote prices in btc [16:54]
kakobrekla "prices in btc" [16:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13251 @ 0.00070989 = 9.4068 BTC [+] [16:55]
bowjob i saw people price things in btc [16:56]
bowjob and it adjusts it automatically for them [16:56]
bowjob pegging it to fiat [16:56]
Scrat find such person [16:57]
Scrat click on image -> open in new window [16:57]
Scrat copy url and replace btc value [16:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @ 0.00301 = 0.0602 BTC [-] [16:58]
Scrat (provided that you're talking about the forum) [17:00]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.000679 = 0.1358 BTC [-] [17:01]
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bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183130.msg1911279#msg1911279 [17:05]
bowjob there [17:05]
bowjob I dunnit [17:05]
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kakobrekla poca sweat ? [17:09]
ColdHardMetal they have "pocari sweat" around here. [17:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 150 @ 0.000693 = 0.104 BTC [+] [17:12]
ColdHardMetal some ghastly named gatorade equivalent. [17:12]
Ukto I had one when I was in Japan last week heh [17:12]
kakobrekla do you have some "lalala piss" too? [17:13]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.11 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10102 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.10101 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.101 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09103 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.09102 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.091 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.09 = 7.63 BTC [-] [17:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00070087 = 8.901 BTC [-] [17:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00069911 = 7.3756 BTC [-] [17:22]
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Scrat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwpksY1Sj64 [17:26]
Scrat AHAHAHAH [17:26]
Scrat fucking crazy russians [17:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 30 @ 0.002 = 0.06 BTC [-] [17:41]
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kakobrekla http://forexmagnates.com/bitcoin-exchange-trading-platform-coming-soon-rtbtc-flashes-specs/ [17:42]
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zebedee_ mircea_popescu: For bitbet.us, the weight is for a 1 BTC bet I assume (i.e. proportional to size)? I might have missed something but this doesn't seem to be explained in the FAQ. [17:49]
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mircea_popescu zebedee_ i'm not sure how you mean ? the weight is just a factor. [18:05]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla forexmagnates ? [18:07]
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deadweasel http://pastebin.com/2DWe3qci [18:11]
deadweasel only 20 minutes until debork's sham :) [18:11]
deadweasel he made it up for fun, methinks [18:11]
zebedee_ mircea_popescu: Right, so my total weight if I bet 2 BTC is twice what it is if I bet 1 BTC? [18:15]
mircea_popescu yep [18:16]
zebedee_ Although it may be obvious, I don't believe that's explicit anywhere. [18:16]
mircea_popescu so i get what you ask now. yes it's per btc in the sense gravity is per kilogram. [18:16]
mircea_popescu not per 1 btc specifically, just, as a factor. [18:16]
zebedee_ But if I bet 1 BTC I get that weight? That makes it per BTC. [18:16]
mircea_popescu http://www.pymnts.com/briefing-room/prepaid/gift-cards/2013/blackhawk-completes-230-million-ipo/ [18:16]
mircea_popescu so blackhawk is valued at 1.3bn. [18:17]
mircea_popescu by this comparison satoshi dice is 99% undervalued. [18:17]
mircea_popescu zebedee_ you get that weight no matter what you bet. it's your bet * that weight. [18:17]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/faq/#14 [18:17]
zebedee_ Right. [18:18]
mircea_popescu i think that pretty much says it, wouldn't you say ? [18:18]
zebedee_ I'm a mathemetician, I like precision :) [18:18]
zebedee_ None of this BFL vague bet shit. [18:18]
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mircea_popescu haha good, but specifically : [18:19]
mircea_popescu Every bettor on the winning side will receive as follows : 99% of his original bet sum (1% goes to BitBet.us) plus 99% of his bet times the total bet by the losing side multiplied by the winning side total weight and divided by his bet's total weight. [18:20]
mircea_popescu no good ? [18:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18886 BTC [+] [18:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18888 BTC [+] [18:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.189 BTC [+] [18:20]
zebedee_ mircea_popescu: No I think you're right, thanks. [18:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.192 BTC [+] [18:21]
mircea_popescu np np [18:21]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.18887 BTC [-] [18:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1450 @ 0.00069911 = 1.0137 BTC [-] [18:21]
* mircea_popescu tries to be a mathematician too [18:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.0006972 = 4.8455 BTC [-] [18:21]
zebedee_ One more: what is your policy for bets which are determined before they expire? e.g. suppose it's a bet about BTC going above X USD by end 2013 and it happens tomorrow. Do you pay out tomorrow, or what? [18:21]
mircea_popescu there's two loose cases here. if the stated resolution is far off (ie, more than a week), and the bet is clearly satisfied then the bet is paid off now. [18:22]
mircea_popescu if the stated resolution is close the bet is resolved now or then, depending on load. [18:23]
mircea_popescu there are however bets which only resolve on their stated date, regardless. this is obvious from the wording [18:23]
zebedee_ OK because people can game that if they bet just as, or immediately after, it's "happened". [18:23]
mircea_popescu (such as the avalon delivery bet was) [18:23]
mircea_popescu zebedee_ no, for two reasons. one is that bets coming in after the fact are refunded [18:23]
mircea_popescu if you look you will ocasionalyl see "refund" on the bet list. [18:24]
mircea_popescu furthermore, trying to game it this way exposes you to the following risk : if your bet doesn't make it into a block before bet is closed [18:24]
mircea_popescu you lose it. [18:24]
mircea_popescu so few people actually try to game it this way. [18:24]
zebedee_ OK, that seems good. [18:24]
zebedee_ Thanks. I'm curious - how do you handle your wallet?Do you pregenerate thousands of addresses in and store them in a DB somewhere? [18:24]
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mircea_popescu all i'm going to say is that bitbet server holds less than 10 btc at all times. [18:25]
zebedee_ Sure. Just was curious about the tech of the offline wallet, as I've been dealing with such issues in a personal capacity myself. If you don't want to say anything fair enough, though I don't really see what risk that might expose you to. [18:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29649999 = 2.965 BTC [-] [18:27]
mircea_popescu not risk per se, just, bitbet is a valuable business publicly owned, its internals may be discussed up to a certain - arbitrary - point. [18:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.296499 = 1.186 BTC [-] [18:28]
zebedee_ OK. What do you do personally if you don't mind my asking?Which client do you use, or do you do your own thing with private keys etc? [18:28]
mircea_popescu i have a heavily modified bitcoind [18:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2964 BTC [-] [18:29]
mircea_popescu this is pretty much what i do in general, my blog is a heavily modified wp etc [18:29]
mircea_popescu basically my tech ppl pick up some open software and rewrite it. [18:29]
zebedee_ OK, thanks. I used to use offline electrum but have moved to paper wallets a-la casascius. [18:29]
mircea_popescu anyway, you hatching some service ? [18:29]
zebedee_ No. Writing my own bitcoin stuff in C though, but just for fun and to understand it better. [18:30]
thestringpuller zebedee_: do you know any casascius resellers [18:30]
thestringpuller shits are hard to find [18:30]
mircea_popescu zebedee_ it's how good services are started. [18:30]
zebedee_ thestringpuller: me, perhaps. What are you looking for? :) [18:30]
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zebedee_ I bought about 30-40 version ones, with the bad hologram. Gave all away apart from 3, when I saw what they were going for :) [18:32]
zebedee_ And I have more version twos. [18:32]
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zebedee_ Trying to think of devious ways to swap a version 2 for a version 1 with the people I gave them away to :) [18:33]
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mircea_popescu lmao [18:33]
mircea_popescu what are you, an indian giver ? [18:33]
zebedee_ Not sure what that is. Just thought it was a cool way to introduce btc to people. Only gave them to people who have added value to my life in some way or other. [18:35]
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mircea_popescu indian giver = person who gives then tries to get it back :D [18:35]
zebedee_ Ah :) [18:35]
zebedee_ Anyway, gotta sleep. [18:36]
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IronSalad query thickasthieves [18:43]
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jurov thestringpuller, molecular does resell [18:58]
jurov but last i heard is out of stock and need wait a month [18:58]
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mod6 ugh disk failures :/ [20:01]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=181662.0 this actually sounds pretty awful [20:35]
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jborkl_ Think how that would have gone for you MP, last month when the bot got raped [20:38]
jborkl_ and that was a real amount of money [20:38]
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mircea_popescu jborkl_ hm how do you mean ? [20:41]
jborkl_ Well, they can not fufill orders when price crashes- shorting a order $30 - you made good on 21000 BTC [20:42]
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kakobrekla >. This is the kind of one-in-a-million occurance that happens when using cutting edge systems like Bitcoin, [20:52]
kakobrekla LOL [20:52]
kakobrekla >and we're glad it happened to us instead of a normal user [20:52]
kakobrekla yet 'normal user' got harmed [20:52]
kakobrekla isnt erik with them or mixed smth up? [20:53]
kakobrekla oh no thats coinapult [20:53]
kakobrekla nvm [20:53]
mod6 I placed 2 orders on the 9th, one for silver one for gold. I received my silver order by the 15th. My gold order is still in processing. Orders were < 2 BTC each. I was pretty happy with receving my silver order so I gave them a rating of 2. [20:56]
mod6 So far I haven't had any issues or heard the anything like the guy on btctalk. [20:57]
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mircea_popescu jborkl_ ah i see what you mean. [21:00]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla afaik erik was with bitpay team but they parted amicably [21:00]
mircea_popescu and now is focusing on coinapult which is not related to coinabul. [21:00]
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kakobrekla myeah [21:03]
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kakobrekla i mixed cinabul and coinapult [21:03]
kakobrekla cina = coina [21:03]
mod6 i guess i have scammer ptsd from all of this bitcoin stuff. There have been some ugly public fights about stuff in the past with them. But I've been talkin to coingenuity for a long time on irc and looking at the coinabul site a lot but never made a purchse. [21:04]
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mod6 I figured it was worth a try to see how it goes. So far, I'm satisfied with the service. Will let you guys know how it ends up. [21:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.07 = 5.35 BTC [-] [21:04]
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pgp erik was with bitinstant, not bitpay, afaik... [21:05]
mircea_popescu scammer ptsd lol [21:05]
mircea_popescu nice way of putting it [21:05]
mircea_popescu pgp o fuck yes i confused them. bitinstant it was. [21:05]
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mircea_popescu coinpeople bitplease stopcoin bitusing coinames bitfor everycointhing youbit coindo omfbitgod!! [21:05]
mod6 lol [21:06]
wences lol [21:07]
pgp lol [21:07]
Scrat bit_chslap [21:07]
pgp good one [21:07]
mod6 i seriously do... i've had to navigate through all of these scams since the old days. i only got scammed, so far, by tor-wallet which was idiot to use anyway. Lost like 5 BTC on them. [21:08]
mod6 i basically just end up hording btc since or sending them to use on MPEx since the trust level with just about everything else in this space is too great to bear. [21:08]
pgp trust is hard won in the bitcoin arena... [21:09]
kakobrekla nah, all you need is a ltd really [21:11]
kakobrekla just ask stslimited [21:11]
kakobrekla oh whered he go now [21:11]
mircea_popescu ok this goes to twitter too [21:14]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i imagine he's going to show us all how stoopid we really are [21:15]
mircea_popescu and how the 500th iteration of a failed idea is going to yield results simply because he doesn't know of the other 499 [21:15]
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kakobrekla i got sunburned from so much light exposure in last few days, just noticed im semi roasted. [21:19]
kakobrekla gotta calm the skin with lcd backlight. [21:20]
kakobrekla anyway, [21:20]
kakobrekla the guy say [21:20]
kakobrekla >If you want to be a defacto regulatory, at least come up with sensible regulations. [21:20]
kakobrekla maybe MJR_ can tell him "no skateboards" [21:20]
mircea_popescu de facto regulatory my foot. [21:20]
mircea_popescu this is like "you must read" being regulation. [21:21]
kakobrekla im thinking now, publishing best practices like that would only make scamzors a bit harder to detect [21:21]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla timisoara > california for sun [21:21]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla im not sure things work that way. good scamzors are hard to detect anyway. bad ones are bad anyway [21:21]
kakobrekla ah but i heard baroquesque paleness is comming back in fashion [21:23]
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mircea_popescu "At any rate, I would like to humbly solicit the best and brightest minds of our generation to consider this problem" [21:38]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-have-a-problem-which-i-dont-know-how-to-resolve-so-do-you/ [21:38]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ^ [21:38]
jcpham don't see the problem [21:40]
* jcpham is corrupt [21:40]
mircea_popescu well that's why [21:40]
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jcpham so we form a non-profit for dooglas [21:41]
jcpham and pay him from that? [21:41]
jcpham we not including me [21:41]
mircea_popescu then including who ? [21:42]
mircea_popescu any guy who figures he can somehow elbow people into sending donations which he can then uyse as working capital for some other venture ? [21:42]
mircea_popescu bs model, even more immoral than the problem. [21:42]
jcpham those who see value in his work should dnoate or contribute to an organization that pays him [21:43]
jcpham like a lobbyist [21:43]
jcpham he work isn't lobbied for to your liking [21:43]
mircea_popescu so then those with better marketing skills will get paid [21:43]
jcpham i see the problem. but the irl solution is just as immoral [21:43]
mircea_popescu and people doing useful shit will just get trhe added insult. [21:43]
mircea_popescu much like copyrigh works currently. [21:43]
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mircea_popescu jcpham indeed. article even says that. [21:44]
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jcpham sticky. [21:47]
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jcpham very sticky indeed [21:47]
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jcpham keep this in mind, if you will [21:48]
jcpham he work that dooglas does, does it involve his opinions or is he simply formulating data [21:48]
mircea_popescu exactly. [21:48]
mircea_popescu jcpham he's not really giving any opinion at all, just data processing atm. [21:49]
jcpham if you pay him for opinion it is one thing, but paying for reporting is another [21:49]
mircea_popescu but he has designed the entire process. [21:49]
jcpham he's designed a report [21:49]
jcpham which has value [21:49]
jcpham if he were providing a forecast or something i think it's a lot more questionable that paying for a data report [21:49]
mircea_popescu suppose he makes a mistake in a future version [21:51]
mircea_popescu which statistically speaking is guaranteed. [21:51]
jcpham well if we're talking about compensation, I wouldn't suggest paying for bad data... [21:52]
jcpham but ye. he fudges something [21:52]
jcpham what's the damage? [21:52]
mircea_popescu well i dunno, forum full of ppl conspiracytheorizing [21:54]
jcpham i can see that but like i said, what do you value his data or his opinions [21:55]
jcpham the conspiracy would stem from the two of you combining your opinions [21:55]
jcpham not the actual data [21:55]
mircea_popescu maybe that line is not always easy to draw. [21:55]
jcpham i agree [21:55]
jcpham but in your head it should be [21:56]
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jcpham maybe not to everyone else [21:56]
jcpham but his data could game you if you don't have your own fact-checkers [21:56]
mircea_popescu right. [22:03]
orkaa http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3u1a6b/ [22:04]
orkaa haha [22:04]
mircea_popescu lol [22:04]
mircea_popescu tho the argument is kinda misplaced. caucasian !=== white. [22:05]
orkaa let me check the wiki page :) [22:06]
orkaa Historically, the term was used for many people from these regions, without regard necessarily to skin tone. [22:06]
orkaa hmpf. [22:06]
mircea_popescu :p [22:06]
mircea_popescu this is like egypt. classically egyptians were tall, thin nosed, fair haired people. [22:07]
MJR_ ;;NEXT [22:07]
gribble *AWAY UNTIL April 28* resistance: 132, 136, 138-140 | support: 120, 115, 110, 100, 90 | lower buy targets: 102, 96-100, 86 | updated by OneFixt at Apr 21 2013, 18:00 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 1 day, 1 hour, 7 minutes, and 12 seconds ago [22:07]
mircea_popescu current day egyptians are turkish stock (short, stocky, black curly hair) [22:07]
mircea_popescu etc. [22:07]
orkaa yeah, but anyway [22:07]
orkaa guys were american citizens anyway [22:08]
orkaa shouldn't matter where they came from [22:08]
MJR_ we aren't all american citizens here...(i am, not that it matters) [22:09]
mircea_popescu orkaa americans are racist in their own peculiar ways. [22:09]
mircea_popescu so yeah, it matters sometime. [22:09]
MJR_ netizen will be more important [22:11]
MJR_ than citizen [22:11]
orkaa internet won't be able to cure our cancer when we're 70 [22:12]
orkaa hehe [22:12]
orkaa so we either get insanely rich by then [22:12]
orkaa or we live in the right country [22:12]
kakobrekla just print a new lung whats the big deal [22:13]
mircea_popescu scumbag kakobrekla : prints you a new lung. you had pancreatic cancer. [22:13]
kakobrekla :D [22:13]
orkaa mircea_popescu, at least he'd be fair, everyone gets the same deal [22:14]
orkaa :)) [22:14]
joecool those laser printers = lung cancer [22:14]
joecool you think that's a fresh smell? that's the toner permeating your lung tissue [22:14]
joecool better to smoke than work in office [22:15]
kakobrekla yeah it does smell nice! [22:15]
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kakobrekla cough cough [22:15]
joecool kakobrekla: go hardcore, do lines of different colored toner [22:16]
kakobrekla colors are more powerful? [22:16]
kakobrekla i only have b/w [22:16]
kakobrekla though it doesnt prit white! [22:17]
kakobrekla print [22:17]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183080.msg1913245#msg1913245 [22:17]
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kakobrekla lol [22:17]
joecool mircea_popescu: romania have blackfolk? [22:18]
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jarpiain jborkl_ jcpham jedunnigan JimmyHo2 jMyles joecool joeykrim jurov [22:20]
jarpiain jborkl_ jcpham jedunnigan JimmyHo2 jMyles joecool joeykrim jurov [22:20]
MJR_ i think they play basketball for the local team...that is not a joke [22:20]
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mircea_popescu joecool there's a bunch of peeps from africa come to study, there's also a strong gypsy minority. [22:20]
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mircea_popescu in general actually black people are rare enough that banging a black chick is a sort of personal trophy for any male [22:20]
mircea_popescu i imagine they get a pretty sweet self confidence boost by visiting lol [22:21]
joecool lol [22:21]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [22:21]
gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 [22:21]
joecool yeah never did that, its bad enough being at a bar and having a giant black ass jackhammer you in the crotch [22:22]
joecool (just sayin) [22:22]
mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:8658940855a91fd41ff34ec5e2af5634fb5c544400a2488917640e7c [22:22]
gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 [22:22]
joecool but this is the US, black people in canada are pretty rare and i've never seen a giant one there [22:22]
mircea_popescu ;;rate dooglus 2 Does useful things. [22:23]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user dooglus has been recorded. [22:23]
orkaa in slovenia we elected the first black mayor ever [22:23]
orkaa http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11616879 [22:23]
joecool truffles: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2009/09/jimma-with-jackhammer.jpg [22:23]
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joecool truffles: nah it's more like a box truck backing up repeatedly into you [22:26]
joecool i guess [22:26]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.31 BTC [-] [22:35]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1486 BTC [-] [22:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.77 BTC [+] [22:38]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1488 BTC [+] [22:41]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [22:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.31057, Best ask: 125.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.68942, Last trade: 126.00001, 24 hour volume: 66759.35870641, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.13301 [22:50]
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mircea_popescu heh this stability. [22:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.14999 BTC [+] [23:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.42511 = 1.7004 BTC [-] [23:02]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1678 BTC [+] [23:06]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1679 BTC [+] [23:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.176 = 2.352 BTC [+] [23:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.17686 = 2.3537 BTC [+] [23:07]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.305 BTC [+] [23:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 190 @ 0.00349995 = 0.665 BTC [+] [23:16]
Namworld Well as much as being at that price for about 2 days can be called stability [23:17]
mircea_popescu almost 3! [23:18]
kakobrekla is more stable than gold [23:18]
kakobrekla yarly [23:19]
pgp 24h volume on gox is a only 68k [23:19]
Namworld eheh [23:19]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.46999999 BTC [+] [23:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12706 @ 0.00068401 = 8.691 BTC [-] [23:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00068326 = 11.4446 BTC [-] [23:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14452 @ 0.00067796 = 9.7979 BTC [-] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5171 @ 0.00067618 = 3.4965 BTC [-] [23:21]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [23:24]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 125.00003, Best ask: 125.09999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 125.00003, 24 hour volume: 64124.31164192, 24 hour low: 115.20000, 24 hour high: 126.60000, 24 hour vwap: 122.08643 [23:24]
thestringpuller wow [23:24]
thestringpuller volume cut in half [23:24]
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pgp yep... so I would be hesitate to call "all clear" on price stability... [23:25]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 35 @ 0.00221 = 0.0774 BTC [+] [23:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.1768 BTC [-] [23:27]
kakobrekla vol is inline with what it was before the pop or poop, whatever you wanna call it [23:28]
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kakobrekla not impying anything just observation [23:28]
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pgp true, but with so many new accounts at gox, seems very light to me... [23:29]
kakobrekla the line is getting longer but the news are calming, are they de-amling users? [23:30]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.19989 = 0.7996 BTC [+] [23:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1999 BTC [+] [23:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44 BTC [-] [23:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.002 = 0.02 BTC [-] [23:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000693 = 0.0347 BTC [+] [23:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00368 = 0.0405 BTC [+] [23:58]
TheMonarchTx all the new accounts were for speculation [23:59]
TheMonarchTx so once the bubble popped it's not surprising that the new accounts don't result in increased volume [23:59]
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