Forum logs for 21 Jul 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] [PAID] 29.26357267 BTC to 500`000`000 shares, 5 satoshi per share | [07:51] |
mircea_popescu | deedbot- http://dpaste.com/02MWWGK.txt | [07:52] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpJvXw ) | [07:52] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [07:52] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208225 << no. because everyone that starts an attempt gets spooked by the results. | [07:53] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 01:35:44; *: asciilifeform wonders if anyone has carried out any serious public work whatsoever re: mempool tx propagation | [07:53] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes. | [07:54] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 01:56:22; *: asciilifeform sits and thinks, wondering whether anyone has produced clockless (muller gate) miner | [07:54] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208243 << coolness. | [07:55] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 02:09:06; mats: deedbot-: add-deed http://dpaste.com/3TW10PM.txt | [07:55] |
mircea_popescu | so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out. | [07:58] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208447 | [07:58] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [07:58] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 10:55:19; mircea_popescu: so i really like the stuff mats put in there, going to keep it open till friday and then award it. if anyone objects or wants to comment or w/e speak out. | [07:58] |
mircea_popescu | and hanbot and whoever else took an interest in this. | [07:58] |
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mircea_popescu | "请买我的书" lmao | [08:01] |
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mircea_popescu | users by lines, last 7 days 1.) assbot 1151 2.) mircea_popescu 1111 3.) asciilifeform 1087 << the closest it's been! | [08:03] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208376 << top kek. | [08:04] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 04:47:34; cazalla: le guardian http://i.imgur.com/7lrGIuC.jpg | [08:05] |
mircea_popescu | "our culture" | [08:05] |
mircea_popescu | stupid bitch. she ain't no part of any culture. | [08:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00055808 = 8.7619 BTC [-] | [08:08] |
* | BingoBoingo took advantage of this Qntra downtime to update OpenBSD to 5.7 release and then compile/install 5.7 stable | [08:08] |
mircea_popescu | eh down again ? | [08:09] |
mircea_popescu | heh it was up a moment ago. | [08:09] |
BingoBoingo | Maybe it is just really slow again | [08:10] |
BingoBoingo | " Error 1000 Ray ID: 209672bca5fe260a • 2015-07-21 11:08:29 UTC " | [08:15] |
BingoBoingo | "You've requested a page on a website (qntra.net) that is on the CloudFlare network. Unfortunately, it is resolving to an IP address that is creating a conflict within CloudFlare's system." | [08:15] |
mircea_popescu | aww. | [08:15] |
BingoBoingo | DNS points to prohibited IP | [08:15] |
mircea_popescu | doh. | [08:15] |
mircea_popescu | (i just switched it over. coinbase's | [08:16] |
mircea_popescu | apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare. | [08:16] |
mircea_popescu | and then im supposed to not suspect usg is out there ddosing everything. | [08:16] |
mircea_popescu | because hey, "that'd be just crazy" | [08:16] |
shinohai | @ BingoBoingo you *still* getting attacked? | [08:17] |
mircea_popescu | only been a week or so ? | [08:17] |
mircea_popescu | well not counting the 20gbps oct spike and the 15gbps june spike o.O | [08:18] |
mircea_popescu | what do you mean STILL lmao. | [08:18] |
BingoBoingo | Yeah. Most of last week actually wasn't so bad, at least 8 hours of availability a day. This weekend though | [08:18] |
shinohai | Hmmm....someone needs a hobby. | [08:18] |
mircea_popescu | lol like hot water. | [08:19] |
mircea_popescu | is there a non-fucktarded img host ? | [08:19] |
mircea_popescu | eh nm, wtf am i asking. for the internet to be useful, i must be from the past. | [08:19] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/bw-qntra-year.png << there. THAT is independent journalism. | [08:20] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpOasw ) | [08:20] |
BingoBoingo | And the BW usage has no correlation at all with the quantcast stats | [08:22] |
mircea_popescu | the spikes are both ddos. | [08:22] |
BingoBoingo | Of course, because the internet is retarded to the point "usage" numbers can't at all relate to the actual use of a thing by persons. | [08:23] |
mircea_popescu | what persons. | [08:25] |
BingoBoingo | Ones who read. USG department of internet says that no. Bandwidth usage must never correlate with actual readership. So packet inflation. | [08:27] |
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mircea_popescu | neways. i'd much rather debug this than move, so your patience's appreciated. | [08:29] |
mircea_popescu | also if you have burning articles, i can arrange for it to be visible selectively so you can make archive prints | [08:29] |
BingoBoingo | Keep debugging. Thankfully nothing too burning is in queue at the moment. | [08:31] |
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shinohai | is qntra archived anywhere? | [08:34] |
shinohai | actual IP>>> coinbase.com 107.21.102.138 UNITED STATES | [08:36] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [08:37] |
mircea_popescu | this has all the makings of drama. lesee | [08:37] |
shinohai | http://pastebin.com/mHExYJUX | [08:40] |
assbot | 0/24 block search - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpRaoM ) | [08:40] |
chetty | lmao right outside dc even | [08:40] |
shinohai | Just another Amazon instance | [08:41] |
mircea_popescu | amazon instance -> cloudflare -> internet. all via PKI. | [08:43] |
mircea_popescu | YOUR PRIVACY IS IMPORTANT TO US. nom nom nom | [08:43] |
shinohai | SO important that too < 10 minutes to find. | [08:43] |
mircea_popescu | so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db. | [08:43] |
mircea_popescu | if he visits any website, both amazon and cloudflare have records, which can even be compared. how's that for ECC asciilifeform ! | [08:44] |
mircea_popescu | obviously if he pays anyone anything that's tracked. and in his dumbass case, this includes bitcoin | [08:44] |
mircea_popescu | which he buys via amazon instance > cloudflare and he spends via amazon instance > cloudflare. | [08:44] |
chetty | given the latest revelations that stuss is almost at the noise level | [08:45] |
mircea_popescu | might as well use fucking visa rather than all this wastage. | [08:45] |
mircea_popescu | then when i say bitcoin is not for the poor, people are liek o noes. | [08:45] |
mircea_popescu | why waste all the fucking cycles to do visa poorly ? | [08:45] |
BingoBoingo | !b 8 | [08:49] |
assbot | Last 8 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TYZ1NS.txt ) | [08:49] |
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mircea_popescu | of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever. | [08:51] |
mircea_popescu | and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever" | [08:52] |
shinohai | My sides: https://np.reddit.com/r/BitMarket/comments/3dzcj9/wtsbitcoin_trade_bot_website_businessinabox_10_btc/ | [08:54] |
assbot | [WTS]Bitcoin Trade Bot Website - Business-in-a-Box (10 BTC) : BitMarket ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNXCQj ) | [08:54] |
shinohai | http://ec2-107-21-102-138.compute-1.amazonaws.com/webalizer/ | [09:04] |
assbot | Usage Statistics for web.suchdamage.org - Last 12 Months ... ( http://bit.ly/1HNZfgY ) | [09:04] |
shinohai | /icons/ lists directory contents, tsk tsk | [09:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40524 @ 0.0005634 = 22.8312 BTC [+] {2} | [09:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30176 @ 0.00056682 = 17.1044 BTC [+] | [09:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00056682 = 10.7696 BTC [+] | [09:13] |
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mircea_popescu | shinohai wassat ? | [09:24] |
shinohai | A bunch of old shit i guess, i dunno. I was peeking about trying to find where they keep shit. | [09:25] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [09:25] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2015/the-best-auction-ever/ << now with chatlog. | [09:29] |
assbot | The best auction. Ever. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HO3vwJ ) | [09:29] |
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mircea_popescu | too quick | [09:35] |
mircea_popescu | lol something awful now running mostly psa ads | [09:40] |
mircea_popescu | "Proprietary code decays and devteams of proprietary code decay even faster. Just look at Google." | [09:45] |
mircea_popescu | shit i love reading my old quotes. | [09:45] |
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BingoBoingo | No Cloudflare or DNS for Best Korea https://www.northkoreatech.org/2015/07/06/a-peek-inside-north-koreas-intranet/ | [10:05] |
assbot | A peek inside North Korea's intranet ... ( http://bit.ly/1IbaEXb ) | [10:05] |
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mats | traded ma two SSDs in for pcie SSDs | [10:19] |
mats | striped reads at 4GB/s with two 'SM951' | [10:19] |
shinohai | nice mats | [10:24] |
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nubbins` | hi | [10:32] |
nubbins` | oh look, courts circus finally getting resolved | [10:33] |
nubbins` | going on two years now :0 | [10:33] |
nubbins` | and almost 27btc in the pot! will be interesting to see how it's sliced up | [10:33] |
nubbins` | say, i'm sure someone here would know: what's the smallest amount of btc i can send to each of ~6,000 addresses in a single tx and expect to get it relayed? | [10:34] |
punkman | depends on fee/age/etc | [10:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15164 @ 0.00055438 = 8.4066 BTC [-] | [10:44] |
decimation | http://thepointstraveler.com/an-introduction-to-the-basics-of-manufactured-spending/ < lol there's a big subculture devoted to ripping off idiotic marketing schemes (credit card points, etc) | [10:50] |
assbot | An Introduction to the Basics of Manufactured Spending - The Points Traveler ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKCFA ) | [10:50] |
decimation | http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-072015a-smithsonian-kickstarter-armstrong-spacesuit.html < a new low for usg - begging for money on kickstarter | [10:51] |
assbot | Smithsonian launches Kickstarter to 'reboot' Neil Armstrong spacesuit display | collectSPACE ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiKHcd ) | [10:51] |
decimation | " "The Smithsonian receives 70 percent of its appropriations from the federal government and that amount covers staff salaries, building support and maintenance, and not much more" said Lewis. "It has been a very long time since we have been able to use the appropriations for programming, exhibits and special projects."" | [10:52] |
decimation | ^ usg should raise all its money this way, voluntary taxes: "Funding the $1e9 joint strike fighter: at the $1e7 level:recieve turd hand-polished to the same specifications as the canopy" | [10:53] |
decimation | "Check out this clip from “CBS Saturday Morning” to see how the team digitizes everything from the Spirit of St. Louis to a sitting American president." < tele-dildonics? | [10:54] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208406 << same as pogo. both - absent | [10:58] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 05:17:35; decimation: asciilifeform: according to datasheet, it has rtc? but it needs 32.678khz crystal (and power) | [10:58] |
decimation | pogo has inactive rtc? | [10:59] |
asciilifeform | it does | [10:59] |
asciilifeform | i explained many times. | [10:59] |
asciilifeform | needs crystal and battery. | [10:59] |
asciilifeform | (and, iirc, a few passives) | [10:59] |
decimation | yeah probably, not gonna happen for such a cheap board | [11:00] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208443 << realize that if even one such chip is publicly available, this is trivial to test: put it in ln2, if it automagically runs faster, without any extra manipulations - it is clockless logic | [11:00] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 10:51:16; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208235 << nope. and yes. | [11:01] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208469 << 'good cop / bad cop' - what do you suppose the maxint porous routers and miscellaneous ddosatrons are for, if not for herding folks onto 'cloud' ? | [11:02] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 11:13:08; mircea_popescu: apparently there doesn't exist ANYTHING on the internet that doesn't use cloudflare. | [11:02] |
decimation | spam -> gmail; ddos -> cloudflare,aws ec2 | [11:03] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [11:03] |
asciilifeform | banditism -> cities | [11:03] |
asciilifeform | (as described in 'the art of not being governed') | [11:03] |
decimation | yeah, see also mancur olson | [11:04] |
asciilifeform | !s yi yi zhi yi | [11:04] |
assbot | 17 results for 'yi yi zhi yi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=yi+yi+zhi+yi | [11:04] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208502 << no need to ride 'uber', just walk around carrying ipNohe | [11:05] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 11:40:52; mircea_popescu: so random schmuck today finds himself in the following situation : if he goes anywhere, taking uber, all his travel is in usg db. | [11:05] |
decimation | or any phone of any kind | [11:05] |
asciilifeform | aha | [11:05] |
asciilifeform | but true patriot (tm) carries iPnohe, cache the gps stream, save the crown the disk space | [11:05] |
decimation | or drive anywhere with a license plate | [11:05] |
decimation | or use a credit card to buy anything | [11:06] |
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asciilifeform | ^ this one is even more interesting than commonly supposed: one needn't even be usg to access purchase records! they are, i learned, routinely subpoenaed in civil cases | [11:07] |
asciilifeform | (e.g., divorce) | [11:07] |
decimation | http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/chicago-regional-housing-section-eight/398798/ < "en the state of Illinois distributes low-income housing tax credits, which are essential for developers who want to build affordable housing without losing money, it favors projects that have Section 8 units, so these units are also more likely to get funded than, for example, affordable units in struggling neighborhoods with no ... | [11:08] |
assbot | Chicago's Regional Housing Initiative - The Atlantic ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMjml ) | [11:08] |
decimation | ... Section 8 units. " | [11:08] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I think you can just buy them from visa, amex, etc | [11:08] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208512 << mircea_popescu will be pleased to learn that this part of the program has been accomplished! i, for instance, have no idea what serious disposable money even smells like from a cannon's shot away ! | [11:08] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 11:48:18; mircea_popescu: of course the proper node is "why should us resident derp have any money whatsoever", which obviously he shouldn't. disposable income belongs to the sort of people who think about the world, usian maggots really have no busienss holding any money whatsoever. | [11:08] |
decimation | if you are the right kind of person | [11:08] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208513 << actually the result is automagically doubled rent/mortgage | [11:09] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 11:49:06; mircea_popescu: and if he doesn, the end result is "supersized beverages" and "britney spears, best singer ever" | [11:09] |
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scoopbot_revived | Wences whacked, Xapo zapped. http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/21/wences-whacked-xapo-zapped/ | [11:10] |
pete_dushenski | decimation: i'm assuming you caught this week's episode of econtalk ? re ^^ | [11:11] |
decimation | heh no I'm getting through my weekly dose of the french revolution | [11:11] |
pete_dushenski | burke ? | [11:11] |
asciilifeform | speaking of which... | [11:11] |
asciilifeform | http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/07/so-you-say-you-dont-want-revolution.html | [11:11] |
assbot | ClubOrlov: So you say you don't want a revolution? ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMDBn ) | [11:11] |
decimation | looks like lulzy fun | [11:12] |
asciilifeform | ^ mega-article | [11:12] |
decimation | no this guy: http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/ | [11:12] |
assbot | Revolutions ... ( http://bit.ly/1KiMFt6 ) | [11:12] |
asciilifeform | ^ orlov follows up on mircea_popescu's 'greeks must behead' | [11:13] |
pete_dushenski | decimation: ew, he only accepts paypal | [11:14] |
pete_dushenski | for donations | [11:14] |
decimation | L0L! | [11:14] |
decimation | oh you mean russ roberts? | [11:14] |
pete_dushenski | decimation: nah, revolutions guy | [11:15] |
pete_dushenski | i dun think russ does donations other than those from stanford directly | [11:15] |
decimation | yeah. the revolutions guy also did a 300 episode 'history of rome', he's pretty good for amateur historian | [11:16] |
pete_dushenski | that's a bonkers number of episodes | [11:17] |
pete_dushenski | makes dan carlin seem tame. | [11:17] |
decimation | yeah, but he goes into pretty deep detail. he's 44 episodes into the french revolution | [11:17] |
pete_dushenski | speaking of which, carlin's death throes of the republic is mega-recommended. | [11:18] |
* | decimation puts it on the list | [11:18] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-death-throes-of-the-republic-series/ | [11:18] |
assbot | Hardcore History - Death Throes of the Republic Series - Dan Carlin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki3IhC ) | [11:18] |
asciilifeform | 'if you give Stalin a memorandum recommending that 500 priests get shot, and Stalin crosses out 500 and pencils in 1000 in red pencil, then you better find 500 more priests to shoot, or the number becomes 1001 and includes you.' | [11:20] |
pete_dushenski | listened to it back in 2013. carlin is pretty masterful at bringing political and war stories to life. | [11:20] |
decimation | asciilifeform: I see a pretty direct route from nazis -> baathists -> isis | [11:21] |
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asciilifeform | 'Could this have been done without any “red terror”? I doubt it. Greece is very much oligarch-ridden; even the celebrated former Syriza FM Yanis Varoufakis is the son an industrial magnate. The Greek oligarchs and the rich would have had to be rounded up and held as hostages. Numerous people in the government and in the military have a split allegiance—they work for Europe, not for Greece. They would have had to be sacke | [11:22] |
asciilifeform | d immediately and held incommunicado, under house arrest at a minimum. No doubt foreign special services would have run rampant, looking for ways to undermine the revolutionary government. This would have called for drastic preemptive measures to physically eliminate foreign spies and agents before they could have had a chance to act. And so on. This wouldn't have been a job for fluffy mini-poodles. ' | [11:22] |
decimation | the only reason anyone gives two shits about greece is because of the precedent it would set for spain, italy, other countries that matter | [11:25] |
pete_dushenski | which is nuts, when you think about it | [11:25] |
pete_dushenski | a precedent's only a precedent if two things are comparable. | [11:25] |
pete_dushenski | what, just because they're all on the mediterranean, apples are oranges now ? | [11:26] |
pete_dushenski | italy, spain, and portugal suck in their own way, but their not career criminals like the greeks are. | [11:26] |
pete_dushenski | they're* | [11:26] |
asciilifeform | no? | [11:27] |
decimation | it is nuts, but it's kinda what happens when you are pretending that the 'eu' exists | [11:27] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: where were greece's foreign colonies in the last millennia ? | [11:27] |
punkman | pete_dushenski: not career criminals in italy and spain? | [11:27] |
pete_dushenski | punkman: under eu 'phree bezzle if you sign here', sure, but that's relatively recent. | [11:28] |
pete_dushenski | greece has been at this game since plato, neh ? | [11:28] |
pete_dushenski | http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/20/ashley-madison-data-breach-time-to-buy-bitcoin/#comment-267850 | [11:30] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: at the scrapyard, 'ford' and 'mercedes' looks quite alike, and go in the same press | [11:30] |
assbot | Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Ashley Madison data breach: time to buy Bitcoin? ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ki59ga ) | [11:30] |
pete_dushenski | ^greenspun's got the bitcoin bug nao ;) | [11:30] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: unless scrapyard is 'pick n' pull', in which case it's not just the raw materials that's priced out, but the actual functional parts extant | [11:31] |
pete_dushenski | "Greece is very much oligarch-ridden" << because i'm sure greece would be in an EVEN BETTER financial position if only the power were returned to the puddles of mud who voted 'oxi'. | [11:34] |
asciilifeform | and what are the good engine parts in sp, it, .. ? | [11:34] |
pete_dushenski | that's for the shake-out to determine, not top-down authorities. | [11:35] |
asciilifeform | but as i understand, pete_dushenski was telling us that there ~are~ such | [11:36] |
asciilifeform | so i wanted to know what supports this hypothesis | [11:36] |
asciilifeform | from my perch, these old 'rustbuckets' all looks quite alike | [11:37] |
asciilifeform | i don't see a clear 'mercedes' | [11:37] |
decimation | the 'eu' was a funding vehicle to give all the poor idiots money to buy german/french/uk goods | [11:38] |
asciilifeform | outsourced inflation | [11:38] |
pete_dushenski | italy still has production capabilities - cars, clothes, bicycles, etc. | [11:38] |
decimation | now germany/france/uk are whining that they are being crushed by the debts they lent to these idiots so they could spend on their exports | [11:39] |
pete_dushenski | i don't recall seeing a 'made in greece' tag recently, if ever. | [11:39] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: by same token, so does usa | [11:39] |
decimation | the only part of italy that isn't orc-land is the po river valley | [11:39] |
asciilifeform | the question is not whether the machines are there - but whether anyone wants to pay enough for the output of said machines to actually feed italians | [11:39] |
decimation | and parts north | [11:39] |
asciilifeform | (or americans) | [11:39] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: agreed. i'm not of the opinion that usistan doesn't have useful shards. | [11:39] |
punkman | pete_dushenski: oh last couple years there's little greek flags on a myrida of products | [11:39] |
punkman | *myriad | [11:40] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: eh, not like factory workers need so much to eat. hungry people work. | [11:40] |
punkman | half of it still's made in china of course | [11:41] |
pete_dushenski | punkman: lulzy | [11:41] |
pete_dushenski | 'assembled in greece' | [11:41] |
punkman | pete_dushenski: usually accompanied by derpy slogans | [11:41] |
pete_dushenski | which is basically 'added label sticker in greece' | [11:41] |
punkman | "buy greek, support the economy" | [11:41] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i | [11:42] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: when grandfather was in prison, yes - hungry - which is why he still won't eat soup to this day. | [11:44] |
pete_dushenski | but today's hungry have no such option, from whence comes the idea that bitcoin wasn't discovered ? | [11:45] |
pete_dushenski | i dun see that the group has much recourse against the capitalist. | [11:45] |
pete_dushenski | you make it sound like we need them, when in point of fact it's the converse that's truer. | [11:46] |
pete_dushenski | why any -person- would bother with greece is beyond me. | [11:47] |
pete_dushenski | eu of course isn't a -person-, it's a ponzi scheme with 'dignity' that has to save face. | [11:47] |
pete_dushenski | at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there. | [11:49] |
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phf | pete_dushenski: i think that's american bias. as a eurpn i feel the same about greece as you do about itality, though they both are failed states and third world economies | [11:52] |
funkenstein_ | olympus massif is beautiful, worth a visit for that summit alone | [11:52] |
pete_dushenski | phf: both failed states ? sure. the point isn't that their governments suck merkel's balls, of course they do, the point is that one of them is usable for spare parts, the other isn't. | [11:54] |
phf | pete_dushenski: right, and that's what i'm saying is american bias. italy is popularized here because of all the italians, while greece is sometimes vaguely remembered | [11:55] |
pete_dushenski | sorry, where's 'here' ? | [11:57] |
phf | sorry, "here" in the states | [11:57] |
pete_dushenski | aha. well i'm in canada but it's largely the same 'culture'. | [11:58] |
phf | russian (and european) literature borrows from greeks as much as it did from italians. i grew up intimately knowing greek mythos and not just from watching Hercules on tv, because you can't read a single russian novel without some greek allusion or outright a direct reference. when i went there i knew places from before even seeing them | [11:59] |
pete_dushenski | well, eastern half of the roman empire 'went greek,' infecting eastern europe and up into russia, so that'd make sense. | [12:00] |
pete_dushenski | and i'm not saying that the greeks haven't been influential intellectually | [12:01] |
pete_dushenski | even if they did just bring egyptian and abrahamic philosophy to the northern mediterranean | [12:02] |
pete_dushenski | they took the best parts ! | [12:02] |
pete_dushenski | but that was 2300 years ago now. | [12:02] |
pete_dushenski | the spanish, italians, and portuguese were relevant and productive as recently as a century ago. | [12:03] |
asciilifeform | and the americans - a quarter century | [12:03] |
asciilifeform | what of it | [12:03] |
pete_dushenski | less time for decay, more pieces left to rebuild with. | [12:04] |
asciilifeform | 'but it was a mercedes! last year!' | [12:04] |
asciilifeform | 'you totalled it' | [12:04] |
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pete_dushenski | so front end smashed, tires still roll. | [12:04] |
pete_dushenski | leave that smashed-up merc for 200 years in the scrapyard and it'll be rust dust. | [12:05] |
phf | pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but | [12:05] |
nubbins` | <+punkman> depends on fee/age/etc << gimme some numbers here! oldest coins i have handy access to haven't moved since sept 2014 | [12:05] |
pete_dushenski | find the banged-up merc 200 -days- after the accident and maybe you find yourself a new alternator, or maybe the glass is all intact and salvageable. | [12:06] |
phf | what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" | [12:06] |
nubbins` | reason i'm wondering this is that it came up the other day | [12:07] |
nubbins` | nobody's spammed all of the casascius coins yet | [12:07] |
funkenstein_ | spamming an address doesn't change the age of the UTXOs already there | [12:08] |
nubbins` | no, you misunderstand | [12:09] |
nubbins` | sending spam/dust to a casascius coin's address is like spraying indelible graffiti on it | [12:09] |
nubbins` | i've passed up on coins because the addresses had extra funds sent to em | [12:10] |
punkman | why? | [12:10] |
kakobrekla | i think he owns a mac punkman | [12:11] |
pete_dushenski | phf: sure it's sentimental, but sparta didn't invade troy for a woman, greece is being propped up because the eu doesn't want to admit FAILURE and suck Putin's and b-a's cock to compensate. | [12:11] |
pete_dushenski | because 'dignity', because reasons. | [12:12] |
pete_dushenski | because maybe papering over your problems with more and more layers of paper will eventually create a cast of 'stability' | [12:12] |
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pete_dushenski | like greece is a broken arm, instead of the broken head it is. | [12:13] |
phf | pete_dushenski: i vaguelly agree with that, but i'd say that's sop opinion here. | [12:13] |
pete_dushenski | and the opinions of the educated are to be discounted because the media has a bridge to sell you ? | [12:14] |
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phf | i don't know if the whole greece situation is a failure though. that /eu/ failed was obvious by 2005 or so. now germans seem to be doing exactly what they want to, that is refine their control over various parts of europe. next it's bailouts for italy, spain, etc. where wehrmacht failed, bundestag succeeds | [12:22] |
pete_dushenski | you can't have the eu failing and the bundestag succeeding at the same time. they're one and the same. | [12:24] |
pete_dushenski | if you're saying that the eu is failed/failing, which i happen to agree with, then by extension so has their monetary union and the german attempts at 'peaceful' unification of europe. | [12:25] |
fluffypony | http://newsthump.com/2015/07/20/shark-survives-attack-by-australian-surfer/ | [12:25] |
assbot | Shark survives attack by Australian surfer ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ii0vym ) | [12:25] |
pete_dushenski | which, had the internet not come along and fucked shit up quite so badly, might've even worked. | [12:25] |
pete_dushenski | fluffypony: lucky shark ! | [12:26] |
phf | pete_dushenski: that i don't know. i was under the impression that germany came out stand as an independent economic power. with that assumption i don't see german bailout as any different as putin buying the place. with bailout the power lines are all obscured, because the purchase is done within an existing political framework so is not blatant. | [12:34] |
phf | putin be like "oh, so we're buying this shit? i got caash." and germany is like "no no, sshh, we're HELPING, mommy knows best, shoo" | [12:35] |
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pete_dushenski | the latest 'bailout conditions' do seem to indicate that greece's public amenities are being turned over to private/eu concerns. | [12:39] |
pete_dushenski | sorta first-come-first-serve in that sense, and germany beat russia to the punch | [12:40] |
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mircea_popescu | "The formula for inertia is p=mv where p is inertia, m is mass and v is velocity." ahaha where did they find this fuckwit | [12:57] |
mircea_popescu | "let's call things thing because it's the internet of things and conviction's more important than a clue!" | [12:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00054545 = 14.8908 BTC [-] {2} | [12:59] |
pete_dushenski | "“Given our focus on Falcon 9, we’ve de-prioritized Falcon Heavy to probably launch in the spring next year, maybe April or so,” SpaceX chief executive Elon Musk told reporters Monday." | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208629 << eh don't be ridiculous. "italy" is a modern construct, much like greece, and from the same period. prior to that construct, which was supposed to reboot the shitland, italy and greece did exactly the same. ask charles of france how the whores of venice went like. | [13:01] |
pete_dushenski | such competence, these crown corp derps. | [13:01] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 14:25:35; pete_dushenski: greece has been at this game since plato, neh ? | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu | ask the barbarians who can fuck more soldiers than a roman matron | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu | etc | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu | for the record : p is impulse. the definition of inertia is m = F/a, where m is inertia[l mass]. | [13:02] |
pete_dushenski | not saying 'italy' isn't a modern construct, more that what lies within its currently defined borders just so happens, perhaps by chance, perhaps not, to include more valuable 'parts' than greece does. | [13:03] |
mircea_popescu | as "opposed" i guess to energetic mass, m = 2W/v^2 | [13:03] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski this may reflect your own mind more than the ground. | [13:03] |
pete_dushenski | that can hardly be ruled out. | [13:04] |
pete_dushenski | now, as ever. | [13:04] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: do you dispute the point then ? | [13:04] |
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mircea_popescu | yes. no difference in leechdom between italy and greece. they're exactly the same sort of zoo park. ex civilisaiton, plox baksheesh that's visible at giza | [13:05] |
decimation | I would wager that nearly all products you think of as 'coming from italy' are made north of florence | [13:05] |
mircea_popescu | and the short, brown, dumbass current inhabitants have as much to do with the slender, white, original builders of the monuments as your egyptian arabs have to do with the egyptians. | [13:05] |
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mircea_popescu | go to the museum, look at the statues, then look at the people milling around them. | [13:06] |
mircea_popescu | !up chema | [13:06] |
-assbot- | You voiced chema for 30 minutes. | [13:06] |
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pete_dushenski | sure, pharoah's nose isn't mubarak's nose. | [13:06] |
decimation | Senegalese selling fake shit? | [13:06] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [13:07] |
pete_dushenski | decimation: then that's the part, north of florence, worth the bother ! | [13:08] |
mircea_popescu | ie germany | [13:08] |
decimation | ^ yeah more or less | [13:08] |
decimation | north of verona most people speak german | [13:08] |
pete_dushenski | hm. yes. | [13:08] |
mircea_popescu | saxony, w/e. if you're into it. | [13:08] |
decimation | suedtirol was under active insurgancy only a few years ago | [13:09] |
decimation | http://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/may/30/south-tyrol-live-in-italy-feel-austrian "Klotz says: "There are acts of racism each single day. Despite Italian and German both being official languages, I often bump into police officers who don't know German. They point at the Italian flag stitched on their uniform and require I speak Italian simply because we're in Italy. They don't even know that I have the right to speak in ... | [13:11] |
assbot | The South Tyrol identity crisis: to live in Italy, but feel Austrian | Education | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jez4o7 ) | [13:11] |
decimation | ... my mother tongue so I show them this card. It drives me mad. I call this linguistic imperialism." | [13:11] |
decimation | why do they get to have their 'own identity'? > "Bolzano has Italy's highest GDP per capita, according to figures from Italy's National Statistics Office. Locals move around on bikes even when it rains and are proud of showing-off to the world Ötzi the Iceman, a mummy found in the glaciers close to Austria." | [13:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6952 @ 0.00054509 = 3.7895 BTC [-] | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | Of course, this took a terrible toll on society. Here is what Putin had to say on the subject of “red terror”: “Think of the hostages who were shot during the civil war, the destruction of entire social strata—the clergy, the prosperous peasants, the Cossacks. Such tragedies have recurred more than once during the history of mankind. And it always happened when initially attractive but ultimately empty ideals w | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | ere raised above the main value—the value of human life, above the rights and liberties of man. For our country this is especially tragic, because the scale was colossal. Thousands, millions of people were destroyed, sent to concentration camps, shot, tortured to death. And these were primarily people who had their own opinions, who weren't afraid to voice them. These were the most effective people—the flower of th | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | e nation. Even after many years we feel the effect of this tragedy on ourselves. We must do a great deal to make sure that this is never forgotten.” | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | Given that the price is so high, perhaps it would be better after all if we just sat quietly, allowed the rich get richer as the poor get poorer, watched listlessly as the environment got completely destroyed by capitalist industrialists in blind pursuit of profit, and eventually curled up, kissed our sweet asses good-bye and died? | [13:20] |
mircea_popescu | somehow orlov doesn't feel compelled to go "check out schmuckin, going over to the euro tune of human rights" | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | not because it wouldn't be consistent with the piece so far, and with his verbiage so far. but why then ? | [13:21] |
mircea_popescu | fucking russian inferiority complex. "oh, europe is doing something stupid ? we will do THE SAME STUPID THING IN OUR OWN WAY!!11" | [13:22] |
mircea_popescu | let's make a russian union run by russian bureaucrats with the capital at ruxelles! | [13:22] |
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pete_dushenski | why not bruxelles ? hard to beat the chocolate there. | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | quite the question. | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | from what i hear putin's been asked this a lot by the various oligarchs | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | "2. Start printing Euros without authorization from the European Central bank. When accused of forgery, make the forgery harder to detect by changing the letter at the front of the serial number from Y (for Greece) to X (for Germany)." << ahaha gawd. | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | dude has nfi how shit works does he. | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | "o herp, we are flooding europe with fake euros. can you break a 500 ???" | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | somehow the "i am not a revolutionary, here are my opinions on how that works" does not give him any pause whatsoever. "i'm a virgin, here's some songs about fucking i wrote". because why ? | [13:31] |
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mircea_popescu | rotten fucking pseudo-civilisation of nothing. let's commentate commentary! | [13:32] |
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pete_dushenski | lol. y'know, just in case any actual revolutionaries are reading orlov and needing fatherly advice from someone with no skin in the game. | [13:34] |
mats | https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213 | [13:34] |
assbot | mongo-java-driver/ConnectionStatus.java at 1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759 · mongodb/mongo-java-driver · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JuVzAY ) | [13:34] |
pete_dushenski | because being raised by charlatanic economists and the like have trained idjits to seek advice from tards with 'no conflicts of interest' | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski i know, right ?! | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | that's EXACTLY what actual revolutionaries are thinking right now. "i wonder if there's some schmuck on a google blog with opinions. let me check!" | [13:35] |
pete_dushenski | "oh, you think i should buy $goog even though you wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole ? ok !" | [13:35] |
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mircea_popescu | mats what am i looking at ? | [13:36] |
pete_dushenski | speaking of which, how comes the commodity ticker widget, kakobrekla ? | [13:36] |
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mircea_popescu | 1 in 10 failures don't get reported ? | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208662 << this is to me personally the most interesting point. | [13:38] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 14:39:00; asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you think 'hungry people work' - let me guess - because your grandfather was hungry, and worked. today's 'hungry' will not work. not while they have option of eating you and i | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | i know from directly verified experimental fact that properly chained and beaten they DO work. the spark to work and be smart and everything's not lost. | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | now, will large herds of worthless schmucks be turnable into an actual population ? i grant it seems dubious. | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | and who's gonna bother with training them individually. | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | but then again - shoot all the males, keep the females under 20ish that suck it enthusiastically has always been the procedure | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | perhaps for a very good reason. | [13:40] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208669 << by this logic turkey exceeds italy and greece combined | [13:41] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 14:46:29; pete_dushenski: at the same time, i can see why a -person- would bother with italy : architecture, stronger remnants of culture, art, (albeit modest) production capability, some measure of refinement here and there. | [13:41] |
mats | mircea_popescu: a technique for preventing resource exhaustion in a weird place | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | (yes, most of the ruins of roman antiquity are in turkey, not europe) | [13:41] |
pete_dushenski | and there's no shortage of production capability in turkey atm. | [13:42] |
pete_dushenski | too bad germany let the istanbul slip through their fingers a decade ago. | [13:43] |
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Adlai | holy textwall | [13:44] |
phf | berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work" | [13:49] |
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pete_dushenski | "Apple Inc said it is experiencing some issues with its App Store, Apple Music, iTunes Store and some other services. The company did not provide details but said only some users were affected." << qntra not alone. | [14:02] |
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mod6 | so last 24 hours or so I've been working on getting an automated testing framework setup for this forthcoming release. I've got one scenario working (simple one). Here's what it kinda looks like - although this isn't the entire code, there is a module I left out for now. http://dpaste.com/32GZH0A.txt | [14:09] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1g255V4 ) | [14:09] |
mod6 | With some effort up front I might be able to automate the ~20 or so scenarios that i've sketched out for the release. Could save all of us a lot of time by installing/emerging a few things on gentoo and then just running these tests instead of having to do all the testing manually. | [14:10] |
mod6 | We'll see where it goes and if I run into too many problems. | [14:11] |
mod6 | But as far as cucumber, even if I have issues with the steps (so far it's been very easy), if I write out the scenarios in the feature, it should be a decent testing guide in itself. | [14:11] |
mod6 | Of course, there will actually be a separate, more formal testing guide that I'll create also. | [14:12] |
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mod6 | Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. | [14:14] |
mod6 | When I do get around to drafting up all of the scenarios, I'll put that in here as well, maybe you guys can think of other tests that I hvaen't thought of yet. Or edge cases. etc. | [14:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00054509 = 11.7194 BTC [-] | [14:18] |
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ascii_field | so tx spam is back. | [14:28] |
ascii_field | aaaand | [14:29] |
ascii_field | the 'let's make the backbone lose bitcoin packetz' thing is also back | [14:29] |
ascii_field | currently targeting my new node | [14:29] |
ascii_field | (or rather, to be more specific, appears to be active on the corner of the net where the latte resides) | [14:30] |
ascii_field | same deal as was tested on mircea_popescu's node last month | [14:30] |
ascii_field | socket lays open, but silent | [14:30] |
ascii_field | eventually peers mark node as 'misbehaving' and killfile it | [14:30] |
ascii_field | *the latter | [14:30] |
ascii_field | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208802 << ahahaha yes | [14:31] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 16:46:50; phf: berzin managed to succeed where multiple generation of tzar bureaucrats failed developing natural resource on the kolyma peninsula by taking a scientific approach to the whole idea of "hungry people work" | [14:31] |
ascii_field | !s butugychag | [14:31] |
assbot | 23 results for 'butugychag' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=butugychag | [14:31] |
ascii_field | !s судьбы моей рычаг | [14:31] |
assbot | 0 results for 'судьбы моей рычаг' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%D1%81%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%8C%D0%B1%D1%8B+%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B9+%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%87%D0%B0%D0%B3 | [14:31] |
ascii_field | damn | [14:32] |
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ascii_field | disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 | [14:34] |
ascii_field | etc, etc | [14:34] |
ascii_field | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208779 << epic | [14:35] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 16:31:12; mats: https://github.com/mongodb/mongo-java-driver/blob/1d2e6faa80aeb5287a26d0348f18f4b51d566759/src/main/com/mongodb/ConnectionStatus.java#L213 | [14:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21196 @ 0.00056682 = 12.0143 BTC [+] | [14:35] |
ascii_field | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 << mircea_popescu has a post about just this! | [14:37] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" | [14:37] |
ascii_field | phf: http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece | [14:37] |
assbot | The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kj5xrS ) | [14:37] |
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phf | !up ascii_field | [14:40] |
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phf | re situation of greece, i think i missed that one somehow | [14:41] |
phf | thanks | [14:41] |
fluffypony | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLERL4_SveI | [14:48] |
assbot | News 8 at 6pm - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2b10m ) | [14:48] |
phf | https://vimeo.com/25479104 has some shots of butugychag around 24:05, though the whole documentary is interesting, done by a shalamov fan in early 90s | [14:49] |
assbot | Колымская командировка on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1g2bgbH ) | [14:50] |
ascii_field | i think i saw this, aha | [14:51] |
mod6 | ascii_field: what's your best block height? | [14:56] |
ascii_field | where? | [14:56] |
mod6 | your node that you were speaking about ^ | [14:56] |
ascii_field | 365587 - three blocks away from where it was turned on | [14:57] |
ascii_field | (after loading chain externally) | [14:57] |
mod6 | oh | [14:57] |
ascii_field | it gets thousands of these 'silent' connection attempts | [14:57] |
ascii_field | every hour or two - manages to snarf a block, yes | [14:58] |
mod6 | but not enough to keep up then obv. | [14:59] |
ascii_field | aha | [14:59] |
ascii_field | once in a while, even gets tx | [14:59] |
ascii_field | for a minute or two at a stretch | [14:59] |
ascii_field | then falls back into these 'socket closed' | [14:59] |
ascii_field | open/close, open/close | [14:59] |
ascii_field | the bitcoind AND the os are bitwise-identical to those of another node presently running happily. | [15:00] |
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mod6 | !up ascii_field | [15:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00054479 = 2.7784 BTC [-] {2} | [15:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17930 @ 0.0005447 = 9.7665 BTC [-] | [15:16] |
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fluffypony | http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/ | [15:21] |
fluffypony | lol | [15:21] |
thestringpuller | ~> | [15:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11170 @ 0.00056845 = 6.3496 BTC [+] {2} | [15:29] |
ben_vulpes | in other news, my stator has caught up with the net at large | [15:34] |
ascii_field | congrats ben_vulpes! | [15:34] |
ben_vulpes | "blocks" : 366328, | [15:35] |
mod6 | yay! | [15:35] |
trinque | anybody ever tried building against libressl yet? | [15:35] |
ben_vulpes | BingoBoingo has | [15:35] |
trinque | I noticed it was forked from the version of openssl in use | [15:35] |
ben_vulpes | that's next on my list | [15:35] |
trinque | neat, I tried too, ran into some issue, but was going to try again | [15:35] |
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trinque | so I'll continue on fiddling with it | [15:35] |
ascii_field | in quite other news, i found a simple and software-only means of reading and writing the nand fw of 'miracast' | [15:35] |
ascii_field | doesn't even need the cable | [15:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00056976 = 1.9942 BTC [+] | [15:37] |
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solrodar | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2015#1206079 << I was using the OS package from Ubuntu 14.02, which is boost version 1.54 | [15:39] |
assbot | Logged on 19-07-2015 00:40:38; ben_vulpes: |
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solrodar | as well as generating the call graph, I was able to actually build bitcoind against that version, though I didn't test it | [15:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43600 @ 0.00054166 = 23.6164 BTC [-] {2} | [15:59] |
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asciilifeform | !up ascii_field | [16:06] |
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ascii_field | ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html | [16:06] |
assbot | [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r ) | [16:06] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208689 << he's getting a lot better at this isn't he. | [16:13] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 15:01:01; asciilifeform: 'you totalled it' | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208693 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2014/the-logical-impossibility-and-the-moral-untenability-of-forgiveness/ | [16:14] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 15:02:22; phf: pete_dushenski: i'm not in a position to save any one country. if i were putin, i'd buy greece, move greeks off some of the islands, and recreate greek drama with imported nubile slavs, but | [16:14] |
assbot | The logical impossibility, and the moral untenability, of forgiveness on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO9OE6 ) | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | works out. | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208696 <<-->> http://trilema.com/2015/the-situation-of-greece/#selection-31.119-31.232 | [16:16] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 15:03:08; phf: what i'm saying is that i wouldn't be surprised if some large number of europeans are focusing on greeks for purely sentimental reasons. "bedrock of civilization" | [16:16] |
assbot | The situation of Greece on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1COaidh ) | [16:16] |
mircea_popescu | clearly, the sect is working. | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D | [16:20] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. | [16:20] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208830 << so now you get to see the other end of it, for your records. | [16:20] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 17:31:20; ascii_field: disconnecting node 147.87.116.160:42162 socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 | [16:20] |
ascii_field | mircea_popescu: both ends look quite alike | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | indeed. | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | im sure it's all just a coincidence. | [16:21] |
ascii_field | socket opens, but packets drown in the bermuda triangle | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | it often happens for very complex systems to behave in highly consistent ways with a clearly identifiable beneficiary all by themselves. | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | this is how the us budget is constructed, at any rate. | [16:22] |
ascii_field | i warned that the buggerz will do exactly this | [16:22] |
ascii_field | yearz ago | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. but warning there's gonna be an eclypse is not quite the same as watching the eclypse over a beer, out on a terrace. | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | wave at the public, | [16:23] |
ascii_field | aha. | [16:23] |
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mircea_popescu | hello public. look at all the things that aren't happening! | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | and also have perfectly simple and so forth explanations and etc. | [16:23] |
mircea_popescu | phf where you from anyway ? | [16:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208865 << shit i had no idea kenyans wore clothes ?! | [16:25] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 18:18:01; fluffypony: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/07/21/5000-naked-anti-gay-protesters-to-greet-President-Obama-in-Kenya/9511437473622/ | [16:25] |
fluffypony | lol | [16:25] |
mircea_popescu | unrelatedly, http://41.media.tumblr.com/f65e5d2baebac5a56b3113326dd85795/tumblr_n3e4zvTJtm1sqs58ao1_1280.jpg | [16:26] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1CObOMA ) | [16:26] |
phf | mircea_popescu: moscow | [16:34] |
mircea_popescu | o hey. living there ? | [16:34] |
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phf | no, not anymore, not for a while actually, but not as long as ascii seems like. i live in philadelphia and about 1/3 of time in dc | [16:39] |
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thestringpuller | !up assbot | [16:45] |
thestringpuller | !up ascii_field | [16:45] |
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trinque | ben_vulpes: you guys going to oscon? | [16:47] |
kakobrekla | some aficionado http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html | [16:49] |
assbot | Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm ) | [16:49] |
ascii_field | kakobrekla: iirc it is in the log | [16:49] |
kakobrekla | !s http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html | [16:49] |
assbot | Bitcoin mining on a 55 year old IBM 1401 mainframe: 80 seconds per hash ... ( http://bit.ly/1COfjTm ) | [16:49] |
assbot | 0 results for 'http://www.righto.com/2015/05/bitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.righto.com%2F2015%2F05%2Fbitcoin-mining-on-55-year-old-ibm-1401.html | [16:49] |
kakobrekla | dunno | [16:50] |
kakobrekla | undo then | [16:50] |
phf | my moscow is gone anyway, 90ые are over, so it's all aparatchiks tightening the screws. and i don't know anyone "on the pipeline" | [16:50] |
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phf | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3fsSL4Bw9w&t=0m15s | [16:56] |
assbot | Nabokov and the moment of truth - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1COgDFP ) | [16:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00055488 = 11.2363 BTC [+] {2} | [17:11] |
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trinque | cool. | [17:48] |
BingoBoingo | Turns out it only takes about 5 hours on this machine with a puny mobile processor to compile Kernel, Userland, and Xenocara in order to upgrade from release to -stable as well | [17:52] |
trinque | not bad; I continue to see parallels between gentoo and openbsd usage patterns | [17:53] |
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BingoBoingo | processor is amd e350 so takes ~25-33% CPU utilization around the clock just keeping up with Bitcoin when sync'd | [17:54] |
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trinque | hm, so why would this thing still think it's connected on the other end? | [17:57] |
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trinque | ah there we go | [17:59] |
trinque | unix has its warts, but the things you can cobble together with the pipe... | [17:59] |
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trinque | one more try, then I'll call it good | [18:00] |
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assbot | dpaste: 2T9SCHJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1COr0JH ) | [18:16] |
asciilifeform | !up ascii_field | [18:17] |
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ascii_field | qntra points to a very quick-loading 404 now | [18:17] |
BingoBoingo | hanbot: Looks good | [18:17] |
BingoBoingo | ;;later tell mircea_popescu Can we get that window to post and archive soon? | [18:18] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:18] |
ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu can haz a pcap dump of the ddos packets plz ? | [18:18] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:18] |
ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.phylomemetic-tree.de/spackeria/daily/%23spackeria.03-24.log << http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B412BD191BF10DAB6AAB6A8779A3F08D31AC5E3FB748DDBFB1DB18CDF05B6BEF | [18:25] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:25] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PnN ) | [18:25] |
assbot | Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1fk5PEb ) | [18:26] |
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ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.whoismind.com/email/bXM-schmidt-system.de.html << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/B3A2E526E50140EE75C270884290DB8270F202BA7E2382F7F20D735D62E0104E | [18:28] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:28] |
assbot | ms@schmidt-system.de - Email Data ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs5kM ) | [18:28] |
assbot | Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COs6VL ) | [18:28] |
ascii_field | ;;later tell mircea_popescu https://github.com/cyco << >> http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/C214323FE8F5A745404185908E2CFAB4D18087093B71CDBC40C01FA883C060D4 | [18:30] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:30] |
assbot | cyco (Christoph Leimbrock) · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsm79 ) | [18:30] |
assbot | Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1COsmnO ) | [18:30] |
ascii_field | ^^^ anyone who has time to carry on in this pattern, is encouraged. | [18:30] |
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danielpbarron | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKdtsfaUwAA1V6_.jpg << reddit meet-up | [19:39] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1CU5WBh ) | [19:39] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39627 @ 0.00056343 = 22.327 BTC [+] {5} | [19:45] |
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cazalla | danielpbarron, here's a better shot http://i.imgur.com/Ob7rq.jpg | [20:08] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlchJ ) | [20:08] |
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mats | lol | [20:10] |
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decimation | asciilifeform: did you already have those datasheets I linked last night? | [20:11] |
decimation | also some amusing reading: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/coroutines.html " One of the particular problems that often comes up is this: if you have a piece of code producing data, and another piece of code consuming it, which should be the caller and which should be the callee? ... In The Art of Computer Programming, Donald Knuth presents a solution to this sort of problem. His answer is to throw away the stack ... | [20:12] |
assbot | Coroutines in C ... ( http://bit.ly/1GAlYLE ) | [20:12] |
decimation | ... concept completely. Stop thinking of one process as the caller and the other as the callee, and start thinking of them as cooperating equals. ... This is very nice in theory, but in practice you can only do it in assembly language, because no commonly used high level language supports the coroutine call primitive. Languages like C depend utterly on their stack-based structure, so whenever control passes from any function to ... | [20:12] |
decimation | ... any other, one must be the caller and the other must be the callee. So if you want to write portable code, this technique is at least as impractical as the Unix pipe solution. " | [20:12] |
decimation | in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible' | [20:13] |
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Adlai | bedrock my ass, the bedrock is assembly language on a 2(or more)-core system... what shapes possibilities is the crappy foundation sunk into the quicksand sludge on top of the rock | [20:28] |
Adlai | gradually modern "languages" (glorified syntax processors) are waking up to the reality recognized decades ago | [20:29] |
Adlai | doesn't mean that reality didn't exist in the terim | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | werd. | [20:35] |
trinque | maybe I'm an idiot, but you can do coroutine patterns in many high level languages | [20:44] |
trinque | perhaps not as efficiently as someone thinking about hardware wants | [20:45] |
trinque | http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4411 | [20:50] |
assbot | Delimited continuations for C/C++ | Lambda the Ultimate ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrQ9N9 ) | [20:50] |
trinque | actually that one uses asm | [20:50] |
trinque | https://code.google.com/p/libconcurrency << uses jmp and stack-fiddling magic, doesn't appear to have any asm | [20:52] |
assbot | libconcurrency - | [20:52] |
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BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/ and DDos This https://archive.is/i7XvH << hanbot | [21:04] |
assbot | ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrRxPE ) | [21:04] |
assbot | ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrRzqQ ) | [21:04] |
trinque | isn't this sort of like saying common lisp is impossible, after all, the machine only implements syslisp? | [21:04] |
trinque | this being "the bedrock is shaping..." | [21:05] |
scoopbot_revived | ALM CEO Cries 'Terrorism' after Ashley Madison Hack http://qntra.net/2015/07/alm-ceo-cries-terrorism-after-ashley-madison-hack/ | [21:05] |
scoopbot_revived | Trial For Alleged Ricin Importer Begins http://qntra.net/2015/07/trial-for-alleged-ricin-importer-begins/ | [21:07] |
BingoBoingo | hanbot: I gave it the redundancy edit by linking the earlier piece | [21:09] |
trinque | terrorism... | [21:10] |
trinque | you know that Bin Laden guy really hit it outta the park. | [21:10] |
BingoBoingo | The ashley madison thing is big, you wrote a better story. My quick piece was just to get something in as soon as possible considering our... uptime issues. | [21:10] |
trinque | I begin to see how there's a runaway social process here. | [21:12] |
BingoBoingo | thanks | [21:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14498 @ 0.00055177 = 7.9996 BTC [-] | [21:15] |
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trinque | hanbot: some interaction between the subconscious effect of even having a vast american govt at all... | [21:18] |
trinque | everyone here knows on some level they could kick the door in at any moment | [21:18] |
trinque | the things people joke about show that | [21:19] |
trinque | the attack created the atmosphere of "something must be done" | [21:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8302 @ 0.00055056 = 4.5707 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
mod6 | <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208811 << i am looking forward to the fallout from this :D << heheh. well, with any luck it might help us this time around. my hope is that some python hero will pick up the torch and take this thing forward next time around. | [21:21] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 17:10:58; mod6: Why perl? Because I'm not good with python, and ruby well, lol. | [21:21] |
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nubbins` | for those of you who are interested in such things: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1128004.0 | [21:21] |
assbot | CASASCIUS COMBO AUCTION ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrTo79 ) | [21:21] |
trinque | and the precariousness of baseless narcissism, being that it could be knocked over by reality at any moment | [21:22] |
trinque | you have a situation where everything generates more fear, and so long as people believe the govts role is to remove anything feared, it'll proceed further in the same direction | [21:23] |
trinque | I expect a general concept of "being terrorised" to develop which is some descendent of being "triggered" and so on | [21:24] |
trinque | all that to say we were hit right in the heel | [21:26] |
trinque | there was no chance the whole thing wouldn't be caught by every camera in miles | [21:26] |
trinque | the thing's indelliby there, forever | [21:27] |
trinque | mhm | [21:28] |
trinque | and since "this *doesn't* happen to america" and it can never be forgotten, we will pick at the wound until it kills us | [21:29] |
BingoBoingo | Triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/d82584f2695873b143b7f56ccf26e656.jpg | [21:29] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUkZd ) | [21:29] |
trinque | that's just cause the food never makes it to the table | [21:30] |
BingoBoingo | More triggered https://slimgur.com/images/2015/07/21/395e55a4ba1859a676fb401e6dc9e5d9.jpg | [21:30] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUqjD ) | [21:30] |
cazalla | sheeit, published my non-spell checked version | [21:31] |
BingoBoingo | Maximally triggered https://i.imgur.com/fVzsFLt.jpg | [21:31] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrUDTN ) | [21:31] |
cazalla | BingoBoingo, why ya got all these links to such images? | [21:32] |
trinque | woah dude | [21:32] |
trinque | woah | [21:32] |
BingoBoingo | Why did they have to burn crosses? | [21:32] |
BingoBoingo | It is, but one has to keep the hateorade full somehow. | [21:33] |
trinque | oh, I just go for a walk for that | [21:33] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: that fella must've run off from a circus ? | [21:36] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: 'bermuda triangle of packets' carries on | [21:36] |
asciilifeform | accepted connection 82.130.102.173:38621 | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | accepted connection 129.13.252.36:52829 | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | socket closed | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | disconnecting node 82.130.102.173:38621 | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | accepted connection 148.251.238.178:43407 | [21:37] |
scoopbot_revived | Silk Road Heroin Dealer Receives 2-1/2 Years Prison Sentence http://qntra.net/2015/07/silk-road-heroin-dealer-receives-2-12-years-prison-sentence/ | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | socket closed | [21:37] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I'm not so sure. Perhaps Walmart was closed or had no scooty puffs for him to ride? | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | disconnecting node 148.251.238.178:43407 | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | socket no message in first 60 seconds, 1 0 | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | disconnecting node 129.13.252.36:52829 | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | etc | [21:37] |
asciilifeform | http://qntra.net/2015/07/trial-for-alleged-ricin-importer-begins >>><<< http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-04-2014#623044 | [21:37] |
assbot | Trial For Alleged Ricin Importer Begins | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVgwH ) | [21:37] |
assbot | Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now. | [21:37] |
trinque | next innovation is constructing both sides! | [21:38] |
trinque | what will they think of next | [21:38] |
asciilifeform | trinque: 'the man who was thursday' | [21:38] |
asciilifeform | chesterton already thought of it! | [21:38] |
* | trinque puts it in the queue | [21:39] |
asciilifeform | so... | [21:39] |
asciilifeform | this was not the plan, but... | [21:39] |
asciilifeform | mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: | [21:39] |
asciilifeform | gentlemen, please welcome 'incitatus': 64.85.171.71:8333 | [21:39] |
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asciilifeform | a very sad therealbitcoin node | [21:39] |
asciilifeform | which isn't synced and doesn't threaten to any time soon | [21:40] |
asciilifeform | because of - apparently - usg diddling the pipes. | [21:40] |
asciilifeform | go ahead, try to connect. | [21:40] |
asciilifeform | height=365788 | [21:40] |
asciilifeform | http://dpaste.com/1AN13QZ.txt << last n lines of log | [21:42] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVG69 ) | [21:42] |
phf | hehe, sorry. | [21:42] |
asciilifeform | this has been going on, punctuated with occasional bursts of activity, since it was switched on this morning. | [21:42] |
asciilifeform | it was build ~deliberately~ bitwise-identical to a properly-functioning node hosted elsewhere. | [21:43] |
asciilifeform | there can be ~NO~ fucking question of misconfiguration | [21:43] |
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asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-07-2015#1206896 <<<<< guess what. it has. | [21:43] |
assbot | Logged on 20-07-2015 00:44:24; mircea_popescu: you seriously proposing the internet just goes away ? | [21:43] |
phf | asciilifeform: well, that last burst is me netcat'ing you repeatedly | [21:44] |
asciilifeform | phf: don't hesitate. | [21:44] |
asciilifeform | also, anyone who has the time, try a packet capture | [21:45] |
asciilifeform | when this was happening to mircea_popescu's node, all i found was sockets opening and then standing entirely still | [21:45] |
asciilifeform | as if no one were bothering to transmit | [21:45] |
asciilifeform | if this is a 'cosmic ray', then i fart monkeys. | [21:45] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Node reports a starting height of -1 | [21:46] |
asciilifeform | waiwat | [21:46] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: you got packets ?! | [21:46] |
asciilifeform | please post pcap !! | [21:46] |
asciilifeform | esp. of this '-1' business. | [21:46] |
BingoBoingo | http://dpaste.com/0N2JC68.txt No packets, just the peer info. | [21:47] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrW4Sg ) | [21:47] |
asciilifeform | need the packetz | [21:47] |
asciilifeform | otherwise this could easily be the peculiar behaviour of BingoBoingo's phoundation node | [21:47] |
asciilifeform | (perhaps it assigns -1 to nodes which did not answer pings.) | [21:47] |
phf | must be <--> this many hops away from fort meade to ride | [21:47] |
* | asciilifeform cannot be bothered to read any more phoundation code | [21:48] |
BingoBoingo | Peerinfo for two s.nsa nodes for comparison http://dpaste.com/2SR9H1M.txt | [21:48] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWesF ) | [21:48] |
asciilifeform | phf: this particular box is hosted in northeast usa | [21:48] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: one of those is incitatus | [21:49] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: you probably wanted 'zoolag,' 96.241.120.166:8333 | [21:49] |
BingoBoingo | Oh no I just addnode'd incitatus | [21:50] |
asciilifeform | anyway if this carries on, i will be cancelling my contract with that hoster | [21:50] |
asciilifeform | (after ~6 years!) | [21:50] |
asciilifeform | could just as easily be an upstream thing | [21:51] |
phf | could be your hoster doesn't like bitcoind nodes | [21:51] |
asciilifeform | no reason for a threadbare american hoster to be in on the mega-secret | [21:52] |
asciilifeform | phf: they never cared re: bittorrent | [21:52] |
trinque | I'm reminded of comcast telling me yesterday that "that port 25, that's not yours" | [21:52] |
BingoBoingo | Node I'm connecting with identifies as protocol version 99992 | [21:52] |
asciilifeform | or 1,001 other bandwidth hogs | [21:52] |
BingoBoingo | Is this corenetworks? | [21:52] |
asciilifeform | clearly-enumerated byte limit in the contract, but otherwise open-eneded | [21:52] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: aha | [21:52] |
BingoBoingo | I remember you mentioning earlier as source of cheapboxes | [21:53] |
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asciilifeform | http://dpaste.com/1116A5J.txt << moar | [21:54] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGQqc7 ) | [21:54] |
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BingoBoingo | ;;later tell danielpbarron pete_dushenski http://www.openbsd.org/papers/eurobsdcon2014-octeon_dsr500.pdf | [21:55] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [21:56] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGQCYZ ) | [21:56] |
asciilifeform | and in case anyone has forgotten, this is not a problem limited to goatfuckistans like usa, but appears to exist in backbone | [21:57] |
asciilifeform | the days of plaintext packets sailing around the world unmolested are not merely numbered - but long gone. | [21:57] |
danielpbarron | nice, BingoBoingo | [21:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31800 @ 0.00055933 = 17.7867 BTC [+] {2} | [21:57] |
* | asciilifeform bbl | [21:57] |
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mod6 | asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/2YKPPYY.txt | [22:09] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrXT1z ) | [22:09] |
trinque | mod6: what does that "lasttry" indicate? | [22:10] |
trinque | well that and seen | [22:10] |
trinque | clock not set? | [22:10] |
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mod6 | clock is < 1 minute off | [22:13] |
mod6 | http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp#0636 | [22:13] |
assbot | Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/net.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1MGST6m ) | [22:13] |
trinque | mod6: what about his clock? | [22:13] |
mod6 | *shrug* | [22:14] |
mod6 | asciilifeform: yeah, confirm that on ur one node i'm wedged at 365441 | [22:14] |
mod6 | or at least have been all dayt. | [22:14] |
mod6 | my other instance is connected to the same node, and still syncing, but much further down the chain: height=215394 | [22:15] |
mod6 | that one has been crawling for days. | [22:15] |
mod6 | but still chugging. | [22:15] |
mod6 | so it's ok | [22:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95899 @ 0.00055828 = 53.5385 BTC [-] | [22:18] |
mod6 | here's another sample with another more advanced test automated: http://dpaste.com/15BA2H1.txt | [22:39] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1CUgmAR ) | [22:39] |
mod6 | this one shows that we can connect with -connect & -myip, sleep for a bit, check connection count, shutdown bitcoind, then sleep a bit more (in case we restart bitcoind on the next test, we wanna allow some time for the DB to sync etc.) | [22:40] |
mod6 | again hopefully someone in the future can learn from what I'm doing here and take this over in python. | [22:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81500 @ 0.00056899 = 46.3727 BTC [+] | [22:47] |
trinque | eh is python really better than perl? | [22:54] |
trinque | I have my doubts | [22:54] |
trinque | perl python and ruby are all kissing cousins | [22:55] |
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mod6 | well, i agree. i honestly like perl better, but that's maybe because I've been doing small things in it for 15 years. | [22:57] |
mod6 | and.. i don't wanna be the only one who can write tests for this thing :} | [22:57] |
mod6 | so it'd be nice to eventually move this into something that other guys know how to do. | [22:58] |
mod6 | it's pretty cool tho 'eh? | [22:58] |
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BingoBoingo | It's a bit harder to make python write only like perl. very hard to find good sample ruby code because rails | [23:04] |
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decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-07-2015#1208987 < to be clear, assembly would allow co-routine 'jumps' just fine | [23:12] |
assbot | Logged on 21-07-2015 23:10:42; decimation: in other words, the bedrock is shaping 'what is possible' | [23:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59200 @ 0.00055285 = 32.7287 BTC [-] {3} | [23:12] |
mod6 | <+ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, jurov, et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000126.html << nice work! | [23:19] |
assbot | [BTC-dev] (EXPERIMENTAL) Pogoization of 'Miracast' ... ( http://bit.ly/1CO8q4r ) | [23:19] |
BingoBoingo | Systemdick appologist gets fucked by systemd-ism https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Btrfs-System-Fail-4.2-More | [23:21] |
assbot | Btrfs Seems To Finally Have Failed Me On A Production System - Phoronix ... ( http://bit.ly/1TP56dj ) | [23:21] |
lobbesbot | New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (PGP Corporation Update Signing Key; PGP Corporation Update Signing Key ; ) |
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assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1gNelws ) | [23:25] |
trinque | mod6: yeah, super cool | [23:25] |
decimation | asciilifeform: which 'rockchip' do you have? the imgur image is not clear | [23:29] |
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mod6 | "assbot: I don't do bots, mod6." << lollerskates! | [23:43] |
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