Forum logs for 21 Feb 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1336 @ 0.0006384 = 0.8529 BTC [+] | [00:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006387 = 2.7598 BTC [+] | [00:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16843 @ 0.00063871 = 10.7578 BTC [+] | [00:00] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.718 BTC [+] | [00:09] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 6 @ 0.00065 = 0.0039 BTC [-] | [00:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4736 @ 0.00062768 = 2.9727 BTC [-] | [00:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2414 @ 0.00062761 = 1.5151 BTC [-] | [00:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063223 = 2.7319 BTC [+] | [00:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1497 @ 0.00063255 = 0.9469 BTC [+] | [00:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1907 @ 0.00062761 = 1.1969 BTC [-] | [00:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1402 @ 0.0006276 = 0.8799 BTC [-] | [00:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006278 = 2.7127 BTC [+] | [00:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062768 = 2.7122 BTC [-] | [00:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9116 @ 0.0006276 = 5.7212 BTC [-] | [00:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10242 @ 0.00062686 = 6.4203 BTC [-] | [00:24] |
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deadweasel | allo? | [00:26] |
deadweasel | ;;slap gribble | [00:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063227 = 2.732 BTC [+] | [00:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9705 @ 0.00063255 = 6.1389 BTC [+] | [00:32] |
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jurov | interesting why mpoe buys options for 0.32184551 that can be exercised for 0.32088285 (C200T) | [00:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00063255 = 1.8211 BTC [+] | [00:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006387 = 2.7598 BTC [+] | [00:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11727 @ 0.00063871 = 7.4902 BTC [+] | [00:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9873 @ 0.00063938 = 6.3126 BTC [+] | [00:35] |
jurov | almost exactly 1% difference | [00:35] |
jurov | C250T the same...1.003% | [00:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1 @ 0.32184551 BTC [+] | [00:38] |
jurov | dunno. so today i sell instead of exercising | [00:38] |
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jurov | ;;bc,stats | [00:40] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222256 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1519 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 53 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4328515.3873 | Estimated Percent Change: 18.5566 | [00:40] |
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jurov | ;;calc 0.08-0.03651011 | [00:42] |
gribble | 0.04348989 | [00:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00063933 = 0.3197 BTC [-] | [00:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3821 @ 0.00063933 = 2.4429 BTC [-] | [00:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.00063938 = 4.1425 BTC [+] | [00:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00570001 = 5.7 BTC [+] | [00:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3574 @ 0.0057 = 20.3718 BTC [-] | [00:47] |
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Bowjob_ | ;;ticker | [00:57] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65101, Best ask: 29.70940, Bid-ask spread: 0.05839, Last trade: 29.70940, 24 hour volume: 38746.04227983, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.46022 | [00:57] |
Bowjob_ | 35 more cents come on | [00:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12550 @ 0.00063686 = 7.9926 BTC [-] | [01:00] |
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Namworld | I further reduced the price on SatoshiDice shares on BTCT.co | [01:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006331 = 2.7356 BTC [-] | [01:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37179 @ 0.00063278 = 23.5261 BTC [-] | [01:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006335 = 2.7374 BTC [+] | [01:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15379 @ 0.00063354 = 9.7432 BTC [+] | [01:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063282 = 2.7344 BTC [-] | [01:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10429 @ 0.00063278 = 6.5993 BTC [-] | [01:33] |
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maximian | s.dice income goes up, share price goes down - you can't explain that | [01:35] |
deadweasel | nope | [01:35] |
Namworld | eh. Still had to reduce price on my passthrough | [01:37] |
jurov | people cashing out of btc instead of buying the shares | [01:37] |
jurov | lol, just today i sold 10btc to someone who wanted to buy asicminer | [01:38] |
jurov | hm... unless ukto appears, it looks i'll have to postpone CoinBr.iDiff-E liquidation | [01:40] |
jurov | while i can pay it out, someone can sell it subsequently and cash out twice - what would be unfair to buyer | [01:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2548 @ 0.00063278 = 1.6123 BTC [-] | [01:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063147 = 2.7286 BTC [-] | [01:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00063146 = 2.589 BTC [-] | [01:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19931 @ 0.0006285 = 12.5266 BTC [-] | [01:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063347 = 2.7372 BTC [+] | [01:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8921 @ 0.00063354 = 5.6518 BTC [+] | [01:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4658 @ 0.00063686 = 2.9665 BTC [+] | [01:47] |
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mjr_ | hi all | [01:49] |
Bowjob | Ps4 being announced! | [01:49] |
mjr_ | nice | [01:49] |
mjr_ | did i miss any major news? | [01:49] |
mjr_ | what's the news? | [01:54] |
mjr_ | yes i heard | [01:56] |
mjr_ | suprised i haven't seen $30 yet, but that is expected | [01:56] |
mjr_ | any S.DICE news? | [01:56] |
mjr_ | showing the high as 29.87035 | [01:56] |
mjr_ | from mt. gox or a smaller exchange | [01:57] |
mjr_ | hold on i'm gonna check the vwap | [01:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0079 BTC [+] | [01:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00733 = 0.0147 BTC [-] | [01:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.00732 = 0.0146 BTC [-] | [01:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 27 @ 0.00731 = 0.1974 BTC [-] | [01:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.00731 = 0.0731 BTC [-] | [01:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.00502 = 0.0402 BTC [-] | [01:57] |
mjr_ | jurov around? | [01:58] |
jurov | yes | [01:58] |
mjr_ | how are you? | [01:58] |
jurov | sleepy | [01:58] |
mjr_ | lol, just moved more btc in, if you have a chance, have some orders to place | [01:59] |
mjr_ | also, when i exercise option tomorrow or friday | [01:59] |
mjr_ | do i lock in the price of my exercise? | [01:59] |
mjr_ | or is that subject to the exercise being sent to mpex | [01:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063247 = 2.7329 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4745 @ 0.00063229 = 3.0002 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
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jurov | the exercise is sent to mpex immediately | [02:02] |
jurov | and you'll receive btc based on current vwap | [02:02] |
jurov | business done. | [02:03] |
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jurov | fortunately mpex includes all pertinent information in exercise reply so it could be done automatically easily | [02:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14555 @ 0.00063229 = 9.203 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3578 @ 0.0006285 = 2.2488 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
mjr_ | thanks jurov | [02:05] |
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mjr_ | that is awesome | [02:05] |
mjr_ | i have to say your brokerage is so nice to use | [02:05] |
jurov | glad to hear | [02:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00562961 = 4.5037 BTC [-] | [02:07] |
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jurov | it has to be, i'm eating own dogfood | [02:12] |
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jurov | anyway, why nobody sets tx fees? at least something like 0.00001 | [02:15] |
jurov | then they come and demand deposit to be processed | [02:15] |
deadweasel | i agree jurov, i think the problem is not being provided advanced settings when making TXNs | [02:24] |
deadweasel | in most wallets | [02:24] |
deadweasel | it's a preference, not a per txn setting | [02:24] |
deadweasel | and that is a pain to change, so rather than spend 30 seconds changing, they wait 10 minutes for first inclusion, or longer | [02:24] |
jurov | okay, accepted all, confirmed or unconfirmed | [02:27] |
jurov | if anyone asks about CoinBr.iDiff-E , send them after ukto | [02:28] |
jurov | i'm off | [02:28] |
jurov | cya | [02:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.006 = 6 BTC [-] | [02:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00602 = 0.012 BTC [-] | [02:29] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1048 @ 0.006 = 6.288 BTC [-] | [02:29] |
deadweasel | usagi | [02:32] |
mjr_ | sorry jurov | [02:32] |
mjr_ | yeah, i am transferring from exchange, so i can't set TX fees | [02:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6 @ 0.00623 = 0.0374 BTC [+] | [02:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00608 = 4.864 BTC [+] | [02:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00609 = 3.045 BTC [+] | [02:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00063367 = 1.7743 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063656 = 2.7506 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.0006367 = 8.8183 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 976 @ 0.00063686 = 0.6216 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00063665 = 1.1778 BTC [-] | [02:59] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 991 @ 0.0006285 = 0.6228 BTC [-] | [03:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062718 = 2.71 BTC [-] | [03:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062687 = 0.6269 BTC [-] | [03:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8655 @ 0.00062686 = 5.4255 BTC [-] | [03:05] |
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Bowjob | PS4 Stream over | [03:09] |
Bowjob | no kojima, no price announcement | [03:09] |
Bowjob | fail | [03:09] |
OneFixt | looking to buy XRP | [03:09] |
jcpham | nanotube has set the market | [03:10] |
jcpham | 1:1 | [03:10] |
OneFixt | lol | [03:10] |
jcpham | demurrage my ass | [03:10] |
nanotube | hehe | [03:10] |
jcpham | freicoin is where it's at | [03:11] |
jcpham | currently i am the miner | [03:11] |
jcpham | ripple is last week | [03:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2471 @ 0.00063665 = 1.5732 BTC [+] | [03:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9330 @ 0.00063686 = 5.9419 BTC [+] | [03:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5368 @ 0.00063938 = 3.4322 BTC [+] | [03:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12399 @ 0.00063957 = 7.93 BTC [+] | [03:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063935 = 2.7626 BTC [-] | [03:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9951 @ 0.00063957 = 6.3644 BTC [+] | [03:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10359 @ 0.0006406 = 6.636 BTC [+] | [03:19] |
deadweasel | ;;ticker | [03:20] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.71704, Best ask: 29.78000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06296, Last trade: 29.71704, 24 hour volume: 35931.59973145, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48437 | [03:20] |
Bowjob | 30 more cents. come on buy it | [03:25] |
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deadweasel | .01 bot is working hard to push down the price. weird | [03:34] |
deadweasel | manipulators must be buying | [03:34] |
deadweasel | for next pump and dump | [03:34] |
deadweasel | who the hell buys .01 btc anyway? | [03:34] |
deadweasel | bots, i think. | [03:35] |
deadweasel | anybody else? | [03:35] |
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Namworld | interesting | [03:41] |
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Bowjob | No, its actually pump and dont dump | [03:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000627 = 2.7093 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7603 @ 0.00062686 = 4.766 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3645 @ 0.00062556 = 2.2802 BTC [-] | [03:45] |
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thestringpuller | deadweasel: not everyone uses FOK | [03:45] |
thestringpuller | some people incremental fill the order | [03:45] |
deadweasel | FOK? | [03:45] |
thestringpuller | fill or kill | [03:45] |
thestringpuller | either fill the order in it's entirety or kill it after a certain time | [03:46] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [03:46] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.62201, Best ask: 29.72209, Bid-ask spread: 0.10008, Last trade: 29.72209, 24 hour volume: 35966.27130235, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48641 | [03:46] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m X.IDIFF.MAR | [03:47] |
assbot | [MPEX:X.IDIFF.MAR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.07595 / 0.07595 / 0.07595 (8 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0.0429 / 0.06540414 / 0.089 (338 shares, 22.11 BTC) | [03:47] |
thestringpuller | ;;bc,stats | [03:47] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222274 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1501 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4297470.16991 | Estimated Percent Change: 17.70629 | [03:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006256 = 2.7032 BTC [+] | [03:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15579 @ 0.00062556 = 9.7456 BTC [-] | [03:54] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [04:07] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.60002, Best ask: 29.67849, Bid-ask spread: 0.07847, Last trade: 29.67849, 24 hour volume: 34177.53570017, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.48634 | [04:07] |
mjr_ | hey guys... | [04:08] |
mjr_ | i was a little unclear on how the cash settlement works on options | [04:08] |
mjr_ | mircea_popescu if you have a minute can you go through this example with me? | [04:08] |
mircea_popescu | sure | [04:09] |
mjr_ | ok | [04:09] |
mjr_ | i bought this months $17 call | [04:09] |
mjr_ | it cost me 0.33832578 | [04:09] |
mircea_popescu | okay | [04:09] |
mjr_ | depending on how you value the premium i paid (i use my average cost of bitcoins) that puts my breakeven point around $25 | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | alright. | [04:10] |
mjr_ | since the vwap is currently around $29 | [04:10] |
mjr_ | I am right about $4 in the money | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [04:10] |
mjr_ | ok, so when it settles though, I will be settled in bitcoins | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | yea. | [04:10] |
mjr_ | so do i get $4/$29 | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [04:11] |
mjr_ | worth of bitcoins? | [04:11] |
mjr_ | this is the part i got confused on | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | you get (29 - 17) / 29 = 0.413793103 btc | [04:11] |
mjr_ | aha ok thanks so much | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062834 = 2.7151 BTC [+] | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17999 @ 0.0006285 = 11.3124 BTC [+] | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12241 @ 0.0006406 = 7.8416 BTC [+] | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | that's like 30%ish in btc, or whatever in usd | [04:12] |
mjr_ | so you use the vwap | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10379 @ 0.00064077 = 6.6506 BTC [+] | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | ( strike minus vwap) / vwap. | [04:12] |
mjr_ | so in that example, i will get approximately .41 btc... | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [04:12] |
mjr_ | i paid approx .33 btc | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [04:13] |
mjr_ | so my real return upon exercising my option would be (value-cost)/cost right? | [04:13] |
mircea_popescu | well, in btc you paid .33 you got back 41, so .08 net profit. | [04:13] |
mjr_ | so "return" would be .08/.33 | [04:14] |
mjr_ | or roughly 25% | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | in usd whatever, .41 *29 - .33 * 17 or what's the case | [04:14] |
mjr_ | ah ok i see | [04:14] |
mjr_ | that is cool | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | basically you turned 6 bux into 12 | [04:15] |
mjr_ | at the end of the day, i would get the (vwap-strike)/vwap bitcoins | [04:15] |
mjr_ | NICE | [04:15] |
mjr_ | and the worth of those bitcoins is up to my valuation | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | more than that lets see | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | (11.89 - 5.61)/5.61 | [04:15] |
mjr_ | my avg cost of bitcoins for february was $25 now | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc (11.89 - 5.61)/5.61 | [04:15] |
gribble | 1.11942959002 | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | whereas the exchange only went | [04:16] |
mjr_ | 111%???? | [04:16] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;calc 12/17 | [04:16] |
gribble | 0.705882352941 | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | yeah so about double speed or w/e | [04:16] |
mjr_ | that is awesome | [04:16] |
mjr_ | it is funny | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | it's what options do. if you have the right trend they accelerate it | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | if you don't you lose whatever | [04:16] |
mjr_ | i only got the 17 call only cuz it had the lowest break even | [04:17] |
mjr_ | the 19 was not priced in line with the 17 | [04:17] |
mjr_ | so i paid more premium but got much lower breakeven point | [04:17] |
mircea_popescu | ya well, you know, it's not linear | [04:17] |
mjr_ | yeah | [04:17] |
mjr_ | i mean, for an option chain on a very thick stock | [04:17] |
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mjr_ | like bank of america or something | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | heinz | [04:18] |
mjr_ | every strike plus premium will usually equal the same | [04:18] |
BitHub | mircea you're alive :) | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | only because they expect linear price evolutions | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub was there any question ?! | [04:18] |
mjr_ | yes | [04:18] |
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mircea_popescu | mjr_ well i don't think the mpoe bot expected linear btc in the past year. | [04:18] |
mjr_ | its cool that you can find good value though | [04:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006329 = 2.7348 BTC [-] | [04:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8522 @ 0.00063295 = 5.394 BTC [+] | [04:22] |
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BitHub | lol yes mircea i heard you got kidnapped | [04:26] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.00597 = 0.0597 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 165 @ 0.00595 = 0.9818 BTC [-] | [04:35] |
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mircea_popescu | i c. | [04:41] |
Namworld | Why is S.DICE so low anyway? eh | [04:41] |
mircea_popescu | ppl are selling it to buy asics | [04:42] |
Namworld | I guess | [04:42] |
BitHub | can you buy asicminer on a exchange yet or still hush hush? | [04:43] |
mjr_ | yeah, i am trying to scoop up as much as i can now while it's low | [04:45] |
BitHub | what?! where | [04:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00063295 = 3.323 BTC [+] | [04:47] |
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jcpham | http://vincesamios.com/bitcoins/valuations-of-stocks-in-bitcoin-brain-melt | [04:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00063043 = 4.2869 BTC [-] | [04:58] |
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mircea_popescu | "The valuation of said company, can in theory exceed the total number of bitcoins. brain melt" | [04:59] |
mircea_popescu | the things people pick to get hang up on seriously. | [05:00] |
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mircea_popescu | jcpham a, actually he makes sense in the end. | [05:02] |
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Bowjob | bitcoin talk is down | [05:04] |
Bowjob | ? | [05:04] |
mircea_popescu | practically twice a day. | [05:05] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 62 @ 0.0081 = 0.5022 BTC [-] | [05:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00784 BTC [-] | [05:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.003 = 0.006 BTC [-] | [05:08] |
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Bowjob | why does 29.70 feels like its low | [05:09] |
Bowjob | for bitcoin | [05:09] |
Bowjob | >_> | [05:09] |
Bowjob | " The Bitcoin Forum is moving to a new server. Hold tight." | [05:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062583 = 2.7042 BTC [-] | [05:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8329 @ 0.00062556 = 5.2103 BTC [-] | [05:11] |
kakobrekla | these beans are shit. | [05:11] |
Bowjob | is a knife incoming? | [05:12] |
mircea_popescu | no wai, btctalk moving off shared hosting ?! | [05:18] |
mircea_popescu | i call shenanigans. | [05:18] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m O.BTCUSD.C220T | [05:19] |
assbot | [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C220T] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.20577298 / 0.20577298 / 0.20577298 (3 shares, 0.62 BTC), 30D: 0.18744462 / 0.1966088 / 0.20577298 (6 shares, 1.18 BTC) | [05:19] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: is the bot not quoting anymore? | [05:19] |
thestringpuller | since friday is < 48 hours | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | 24 is the cutoff not 48 | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | there's minute-ish gaps if the orders it has in expire before it can put new ones in | [05:20] |
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mircea_popescu | anyways, im off. cya all tomorrow. | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062824 = 2.7146 BTC [+] | [05:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7529 @ 0.00062846 = 4.7317 BTC [+] | [05:21] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [13:29] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://btct.co || https://bitfunder.com || https://icbit.se || https://cryptostocks.com || https://therocktrading.com || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || biased msg: http://bit4x.com | [13:29] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Feb 14 01:53:47 2013 | [13:29] |
Bowjob | well, it used to be 1 cad = 1.25 usd | [13:29] |
Bowjob | like when i was in high school | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [13:29] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.61019, Best ask: 29.62000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00981, Last trade: 29.62000, 24 hour volume: 34715.21158870, 24 hour low: 28.98839, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.55842 | [13:29] |
Bicknellski | 79 c on the 1 | [13:29] |
Bicknellski | before? | [13:29] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob actually there's a lot of old media references. elaine (seinfeld) gets evicted for putting canadian quarters in the washing machines | [13:29] |
Bowjob | yeah | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | used to be canadian dollars were this "inferior fake dollar" practically. | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | the fact that the usd is lower hurts a lot, im sure. | [13:30] |
Bowjob | was it 2 years ago? it was a bit before that | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | the fact that it's absolutely never mentioned proves it. | [13:30] |
Bowjob | yeah i am | [13:30] |
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BitHub | :) | [13:31] |
Bicknellski | Canadian Dollar used to be valued a lot more than us in the 50s I think | [13:31] |
Bicknellski | up to the 60s | [13:31] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub well done. | [13:31] |
mircea_popescu | Bicknellski o, was it ? | [13:31] |
Bicknellski | On July 11, 1864, the Canadian dollar was worth $2.78 US. | [13:33] |
Bicknellski | well not the 50s | [13:33] |
Bicknellski | it was the `860s lol | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | a a | [13:33] |
Bicknellski | 1860s | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | yukon effect | [13:33] |
Bicknellski | before Canada was Canada | [13:33] |
mircea_popescu | um no wait | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | 1860 is too early for gold rush | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | was it because they were pegged tot he sterling ? | [13:34] |
Bicknellski | 50-year high of $1.0614 US set on August 21, 1957 | [13:34] |
Bicknellski | ya... so I remembered right | [13:34] |
mircea_popescu | 1.06 is hardly "a lot more" :D | [13:34] |
Bicknellski | it was the 50s... my parents used to brag about it | [13:34] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:34] |
Bicknellski | ya that is why I thought it was more | [13:35] |
Bicknellski | most of my life it was sub 1s | [13:35] |
Bowjob | Well, CAD was worth over 1 USD earlier this feb | [13:35] |
Bowjob | so greenback got some of it sbalue | [13:35] |
Bowjob | *value | [13:35] |
Bicknellski | We enjoy the lower dollar | [13:35] |
Bicknellski | lots of Mericans love to come fishing with a cheap dollar | [13:35] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:36] |
Bowjob | the us goods are actually cheaper than canadian ones.. | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | ya odd | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | not meds | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:36] |
Bowjob | I go to bellingham for cheap deals sometimes | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | ya, cheap dollar would help industry, if there were much left. | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | not dead yet | [13:36] |
Bowjob | Actually.. americans complained that Canadians borderhop just to shop | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | we didnt have a lot of "industry" | [13:36] |
Bowjob | and steal all the deals | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | we sold off our resources mostly | [13:36] |
Bicknellski | still do | [13:36] |
Chaang-Noi | my family is involved in maufactoring in the usa, but there is not much left lol | [13:36] |
Bowjob | irrc Americans complained about canadians taking milk from the US | [13:36] |
Bowjob | with video proof | [13:37] |
Bicknellski | weve been a service based economy for 20 or 30 years other than resources | [13:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20375 @ 0.00063647 = 12.9681 BTC [-] | [13:37] |
Bicknellski | Sold off in pieces... Mr. Noi | [13:37] |
Chaang-Noi | 1860 too early for goldrush? why are the 49ers called the 49ers?? | [13:37] |
Bicknellski | I love how detroit was basically boxed up and shipped to Mexico | [13:37] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:37] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi the yukon gold rush not the california one | [13:38] |
Bicknellski | diffent rush | [13:38] |
Bicknellski | there was the california one | [13:38] |
Bicknellski | Yukon was later | [13:38] |
Bicknellski | if I am not mistaken | [13:38] |
Chaang-Noi | ahh | [13:38] |
Chaang-Noi | that is what i get for reading a wall of text in 30 seconds | [13:38] |
Bicknellski | Other minor ones as well | [13:38] |
Bowjob | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/bellingham-costco-canadians-cheap-milk_n_1773495.html#slide=1374749 | [13:39] |
Bowjob | hah. I want you guys to note that those people who hounded the milk.. are Indo canadians | [13:39] |
Bowjob | they seem to hog all the milk. even here | [13:39] |
Bicknellski | Indo? | [13:39] |
Bowjob | like indians | [13:39] |
Bicknellski | Indonesia? | [13:39] |
Bowjob | no | [13:39] |
Bicknellski | or our brothers. | [13:39] |
Bowjob | indian indians | [13:39] |
mircea_popescu | i love milk. | [13:39] |
Bowjob | the red dot indians | [13:39] |
Bicknellski | the IDLE NO MORE! | [13:39] |
Bowjob | not the feather indians | [13:39] |
Bowjob | red dot | [13:39] |
Bicknellski | oh our brothers from India | [13:40] |
Bowjob | think of dhalsim | [13:40] |
Bowjob | lol | [13:40] |
Bowjob | they buy carfuls of milk all the time | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | Nice good on them | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | smart | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | just like we did with gas | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | and clothes | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | etc | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | in Montreal or Niagra | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | ... smokes mostly | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:40] |
Bowjob | they seem to like milk a lot so | [13:40] |
Bowjob | lol | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | ya it aint for adults | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | GHEE! | [13:40] |
Bicknellski | cooking with it all the time | [13:41] |
Bowjob | hey brown food is pretty good | [13:41] |
Bowjob | i like butter chicken | [13:41] |
Bicknellski | hard to get coconut milk | [13:41] |
Bicknellski | so they have to sub in real cow. | [13:41] |
Bicknellski | I drink coconut milk... mostly. | [13:41] |
Bicknellski | cheap here | [13:41] |
Bowjob | dont indians get queasy if they see cow meat | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136104976652.jpg | [13:41] |
Bicknellski | Hindus | [13:41] |
mircea_popescu | why does that look like it won't end well. | [13:41] |
Bicknellski | it is a no no | [13:42] |
Bicknellski | taboo... | [13:42] |
Bicknellski | many Indians are vegans... | [13:42] |
Bicknellski | vegetarians | [13:42] |
Bicknellski | good eats... | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | Bicknellski i have it in confidence that it only happens because they can't afford it. | [13:42] |
Bicknellski | Love Indian food | [13:42] |
mircea_popescu | from this chick that came to college here. used to be vegan at home. | [13:42] |
Bicknellski | you can sure peg 1 billion people? | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | totally. | [13:43] |
Bicknellski | sorry 800 million | [13:43] |
Bicknellski | ? | [13:43] |
Bowjob | well.. lets see | [13:43] |
Bicknellski | ya I am sure some actually follow their restrictions | [13:43] |
Bicknellski | lumping in 800 million pretty tall order | [13:43] |
Bowjob | indians here are mostly taxi drivers, and gang bangers | [13:43] |
Bicknellski | nice mix | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | same thing with arabs. they don't drink alcohol ? when i visited egypt i could buy any imported alcohol at the duty free shop. | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | what anyone in egypt whanted from white people is to buy them alcohol | [13:44] |
Bowjob | yes i kid you not. look up surrey | [13:44] |
mircea_popescu | it was like being in a junior high the side of a country. | [13:44] |
Bicknellski | Like Americans love democracy then crush democracy at every turn | [13:44] |
Bicknellski | lots of hypocrisy in the world | [13:44] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:44] |
Bicknellski | called being human... | [13:44] |
Bicknellski | One "race" doesnt corner the market on hypocrisy | [13:45] |
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mircea_popescu | the us people are a race nao ?! | [13:45] |
Bicknellski | Lived abroad in Asia for 17 years now... | [13:45] |
Bicknellski | pretty much the same people here | [13:45] |
Bicknellski | some lie | [13:45] |
Bicknellski | some steal | [13:45] |
Bicknellski | many work hard | [13:45] |
Bicknellski | The ones that run US policy are | [13:46] |
Bicknellski | ... typically WASPish | [13:46] |
Bicknellski | Doesnt matter where you live most populations have their hypocrites | [13:46] |
Bicknellski | ... show me a place that doesnt | [13:46] |
mircea_popescu | ugh... did you see a recent pic of the us president ? | [13:46] |
Bicknellski | ...Ill move there | [13:46] |
Bowjob | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Vancouver_gang_war | [13:47] |
Bowjob | Over a quarter of gangs are indians | [13:47] |
Bicknellski | Used to be Native and Bikers | [13:47] |
Bicknellski | that was fun | [13:47] |
Bicknellski | and the Chinese | [13:47] |
Bicknellski | .... floating heads in the ocean in the 90s | [13:47] |
Bicknellski | if I remember | [13:47] |
Chaang-Noi | [13:47] | |
Bicknellski | LOL | [13:47] |
Bicknellski | Canada is neither WARM or FUZZY | [13:48] |
Bicknellski | we have great PR | [13:48] |
Bicknellski | Indonesia right now Mr. Noi | [13:48] |
Chaang-Noi | cool | [13:48] |
Chaang-Noi | thailand here | [13:48] |
Bicknellski | ... been to Thailand LOVED IT | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | wait, you two both live in aha. | [13:48] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [13:48] |
Bicknellski | Ya... lol | [13:48] |
Bicknellski | not poverty or the fact that unions are gone etc | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | it is the mexicans | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | not Free Trade | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | or Brian Mulroney and Dipshit Harper | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | cripes | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | People in mexico work 2x as hard for 100x less | [13:49] |
Bicknellski | Try to get a Canadian to work on tree farm | [13:50] |
Bowjob | id do it for the right pay | [13:50] |
Bowjob | >:) | [13:50] |
Bicknellski | They have to hire in people from Jamaica... Canadians wont last a week | [13:50] |
Bicknellski | lol | [13:50] |
Bicknellski | ya you would. | [13:50] |
Bicknellski | but guess what... all the jobs in Canada and US are going to be not the right pay... | [13:50] |
Bicknellski | give it time | [13:50] |
Bowjob | lets scale it up. i get $16 an hour for my cushy job | [13:51] |
Bicknellski | you wont even be able to hide in a teaching job | [13:51] |
Bicknellski | and get a pension | [13:51] |
Bicknellski | You guys in the tech field... have it made | [13:51] |
Bicknellski | if you have the skills | [13:51] |
Bicknellski | they want you | [13:51] |
Bicknellski | NICE | [13:52] |
Bicknellski | great job if you can get it | [13:52] |
Bicknellski | hahaha | [13:52] |
Bicknellski | You not in the states Noi? | [13:52] |
Bicknellski | You hanging out in Bangkok? | [13:52] |
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Bicknellski | Man I thought Jakarta was bad... but Bangkok... | [13:53] |
Chaang-Noi | bought my girl a new laptop, has touch and windows 8, really fucking weird | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | Not sure which is worse | [13:53] |
Chaang-Noi | its like a iPad | [13:53] |
Chaang-Noi | an | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | ya sucks eh. | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | Bicknellski what's wrong with jakarta ? | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | GOOD GOD | [13:53] |
Chaang-Noi | well, it seems like a nice toy for her, and she likes it, i dont think i could ever use it for doing other than fucking around though | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | what is right | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | 3 words | [13:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol that dun help me much | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | FLOODS | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | HOT | [13:53] |
Bicknellski | JAMMED | [13:53] |
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mircea_popescu | o boy. ok. | [13:54] |
Bowjob | fucking around with an ipad like device | [13:54] |
Bowjob | kinky | [13:54] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont live and almost never go to bkk, lol | [13:54] |
Bicknellski | the infrastructure is 1900s | [13:54] |
Bicknellski | ya nice... | [13:54] |
Bicknellski | ChangMai... is nice | [13:54] |
mircea_popescu | Bicknellski 1900s, you mean sorta like ny ? | [13:54] |
Bicknellski | or head south | [13:54] |
Bicknellski | No lot worse | [13:54] |
lyspooner | that would be an advance in infrastructure for romania | [13:54] |
Chaang-Noi | lol, when i go to bkk i almost always fly in or out, and while their take the sky train (subway in the sky) | [13:54] |
lyspooner | sounds ok | [13:54] |
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mircea_popescu | lyspooner how would you know ? :D | [13:54] |
Bicknellski | imagine all the old 50s and 60s electrical infrastructure sold to Indonesia | [13:55] |
Bicknellski | and now they are struggling to replace it | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | no need to imagine lol, it's what happened | [13:55] |
Chaang-Noi | 1900's what part of bkk where you in, lol | [13:55] |
Bicknellski | the old dutch system of levees and dykes | [13:55] |
Bicknellski | one huge cesspit here when it rains | [13:55] |
Bicknellski | and then throw in about 20 million people? | [13:55] |
Bicknellski | and the only thing that works right | [13:56] |
Bicknellski | the Bus system | [13:56] |
Bicknellski | that they jerry rigged into the center of the city for a few million | [13:56] |
Bicknellski | which took 2 lanes of traffic off the main roads | [13:56] |
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Bicknellski | they work | [13:56] |
Chaang-Noi | what city are you talking about bicknellski? | [13:56] |
Bicknellski | but the JAMS it causes lol | [13:56] |
Bicknellski | Jakarta | [13:56] |
Chaang-Noi | okay, | [13:56] |
Bicknellski | ... Bangkok I heard is a lot better | [13:57] |
Bicknellski | now | [13:57] |
Bicknellski | with they train | [13:57] |
Bicknellski | they took 20? yers | [13:57] |
Bicknellski | years for that one | [13:57] |
Chaang-Noi | i ahve been here 8 years and they have always had the train when i was here | [13:57] |
Bicknellski | Ya gotta have the AC | [13:57] |
Chaang-Noi | i have never had AC in anyplace i have lived | [13:57] |
Bicknellski | Im alright though out in the Burbs of Jakarta | [13:58] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont have it now either, did not even need it for my gpu farm :/ | [13:58] |
Bicknellski | ya you are the real deal | [13:58] |
Bicknellski | ... I cant live in Canada anymore | [13:58] |
Chaang-Noi | i do however never live in the city, so that helps a lot | [13:58] |
Bicknellski | and I cant acclimatize to Jakarta | [13:58] |
Chaang-Noi | i have windows open all the time, and lots of windows | [13:58] |
Chaang-Noi | also fans off and on | [13:58] |
Bicknellski | too cold in June in Ontario and Vancouver for me this summer | [13:59] |
Bicknellski | the heat wave was a joke | [13:59] |
Bicknellski | little humidity compared to here | [13:59] |
Bowjob | just move to bahamas | [13:59] |
Bowjob | find satoshi | [13:59] |
Bicknellski | Do you mine BTC as well Mr. Noi? | [13:59] |
Chaang-Noi | not right now, i did | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | I was thinking about it... but the heat | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | be a real problem | [14:00] |
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Chaang-Noi | hold some asicminer stock if that counts | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | hahaha | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | I saw | [14:00] |
Chaang-Noi | i had like 25 ghash at one point | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | ... making some return on your I for the shares you pawned in the forums | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | nice | [14:00] |
Bicknellski | LOVE | [14:01] |
Bicknellski | I teach so I am satisfied | [14:01] |
Bicknellski | and I can go golfing anytime I like if the rain aint to heavy | [14:01] |
Bicknellski | ... beach? hmmm not too far | [14:01] |
Bicknellski | Bali only 90 mins | [14:01] |
Bicknellski | etc | [14:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063606 = 2.7484 BTC [-] | [14:01] |
Chaang-Noi | i like thailand, and im not that rich | [14:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 239 @ 0.000636 = 0.152 BTC [-] | [14:02] |
Bicknellski | always a trade off | [14:02] |
Bicknellski | I wasnt born here... Mr. Noi probably would find US a pain in the ass compared to the convenience of Thailand | [14:02] |
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Bicknellski | here (Canada) | [14:02] |
Bicknellski | there... I guess | [14:02] |
Chaang-Noi | i do find the USA to be a pain in the ass | [14:03] |
Bicknellski | No? | [14:03] |
Bicknellski | can you get a good lemon grass soup? | [14:03] |
Chaang-Noi | they take all meh freedomz | [14:03] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont know if i could or not:) | [14:03] |
Bicknellski | Guess there would be enough good Thai places to eat... | [14:04] |
Bicknellski | but never the same | [14:04] |
Bicknellski | Like I used to live in Korea and I do miss a good kalbi soup | [14:04] |
Bicknellski | or kimchi done the right way | [14:04] |
Chaang-Noi | my wife cooks most of the time | [14:04] |
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Bicknellski | Asia is a great place for expats... | [14:05] |
Bicknellski | once you get your head around you aint in Kansas no more... | [14:05] |
Bicknellski | You have to blend and go with the flow... | [14:05] |
Bicknellski | and it is very easy to live in most countries here | [14:05] |
Bicknellski | They didn't pay off the judges I guess | [14:06] |
Bicknellski | usually they send people back to UK or AUS for the last year or two of a sentence. | [14:06] |
Bicknellski | even in death cases | [14:06] |
Bicknellski | ya obviously | [14:06] |
Bicknellski | idiot | [14:06] |
Bicknellski | You dont play in Asia | [14:07] |
Bicknellski | dont care if you are a granny or not | [14:07] |
Bicknellski | you know the risk | [14:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.0948 BTC [+] | [14:07] |
Bicknellski | Cripes they target the touristas in Bali | [14:07] |
Bicknellski | for that | [14:07] |
Bicknellski | ... you don't buy drugs there either... | [14:07] |
Bicknellski | not a good situation indonesian jail | [14:08] |
Bicknellski | ... well the cops or locals can work together to set people up | [14:08] |
Bicknellski | and to get off the charge you have to pay a bit amount | [14:08] |
Bicknellski | eww | [14:09] |
Bicknellski | crap that can happen in your house | [14:09] |
Bicknellski | not just jail | [14:09] |
Bicknellski | You have to get used to living with insects and geckos inside your home | [14:09] |
Bicknellski | sometimes a big rat as well | [14:09] |
Bicknellski | turn on the light at night in the kitchen... | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | be PREPARED! | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | I hated earwigs as kid | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | imagine me with a 3 inch cockroach staring me down | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | Ya!!!!! | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | Scream like a girl | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | and it FLIES | [14:10] |
Bicknellski | Awwww | [14:11] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:11] |
Bicknellski | ya... ask Noi. | [14:11] |
Bicknellski | bet they have there too in Thailand | [14:11] |
Bicknellski | ... I love the Giant spiders in the trees | [14:11] |
Bicknellski | insects everywhere | [14:11] |
Bicknellski | living in the land of perpetual summer is great | [14:12] |
Bicknellski | hmmm | [14:13] |
Bicknellski | ya... go high enough here | [14:13] |
Bicknellski | it is like that | [14:13] |
Bicknellski | alpine | [14:13] |
Bicknellski | tropical highlands | [14:13] |
Bicknellski | just about an hour from here | [14:13] |
Bicknellski | Temp is 22 to 23 at night | [14:14] |
Bicknellski | and... 26 to 28 C daytime | [14:14] |
Bicknellski | it is nice | [14:14] |
Bicknellski | have to wear a light jacket | [14:14] |
Bicknellski | ... perfect | [14:14] |
Bicknellski | year round... | [14:14] |
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Bicknellski | have one drop in your popcorn watching twilight zone | [14:15] |
Bicknellski | and then scream | [14:15] |
Bicknellski | like a girl | [14:15] |
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Bicknellski | ya... after I stop screaming | [14:16] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:16] |
Bicknellski | First time you see a monkey in the trees that is when you know you have moved a distance away from your home | [14:17] |
Bicknellski | We could be good... just have to throw away all our modern crap | [14:18] |
Bicknellski | ... naw | [14:18] |
Bicknellski | nevermind | [14:18] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15761 @ 0.000636 = 10.024 BTC [-] | [14:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17688 @ 0.00063592 = 11.2482 BTC [-] | [14:18] |
Bicknellski | Not much left there either | [14:19] |
Bicknellski | cut most of the forest down | [14:19] |
Bicknellski | ... same here in Indonesia | [14:19] |
Bicknellski | fast losing it | [14:19] |
Bicknellski | better go travel it before it is gone | [14:19] |
Bicknellski | Ya sad. | [14:20] |
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Bicknellski | Alaska is pretty much intacted | [14:20] |
Bicknellski | amazingly | [14:20] |
Bicknellski | summer | [14:21] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:21] |
Bicknellski | blackflies and bears WOOT | [14:21] |
Bicknellski | http://artofmanliness.com/trunk/441/alone-in-the-wilderness/ <--- if I had grown up in the bush... I would do this for my last 20 years | [14:22] |
Bicknellski | I am a man men don't ask for directions | [14:23] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:23] |
Bicknellski | I watch the full length video of that | [14:24] |
Bicknellski | it is awesome | [14:24] |
Bicknellski | he did for 30 | [14:25] |
Bicknellski | holy crap | [14:25] |
Bicknellski | 51... to 80 | [14:25] |
Bicknellski | man what a rock | [14:25] |
Bicknellski | no power tools | [14:26] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:26] |
Bicknellski | sheesh | [14:26] |
Bicknellski | NOPE | [14:26] |
Bicknellski | find the video and download it | [14:27] |
Bicknellski | it is awesome | [14:27] |
Bicknellski | you can go and visit the cabin | [14:27] |
Bicknellski | it is maintain by the parks service I think | [14:27] |
Bicknellski | it goes | [14:29] |
Bicknellski | not like you can maintain it forever... | [14:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13804 @ 0.00063592 = 8.7782 BTC [-] | [14:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063311 = 3.1656 BTC [-] | [14:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43967 @ 0.0006331 = 27.8355 BTC [-] | [14:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9829 @ 0.00063234 = 6.2153 BTC [-] | [14:29] |
Bicknellski | two cabins | [14:30] |
Bicknellski | one was already there his buddies I guess or another oldtimer | [14:31] |
Bicknellski | I know eh... REALITY TV before REALITY TV | [14:34] |
Bicknellski | true that | [14:37] |
Bicknellski | ... were ill equipped | [14:37] |
Bicknellski | but that is why we have 7 billion... | [14:38] |
jurov | well, i know people who do it like that here, myself helped to build a cabin (only power tool was the chainsaw to chop down the trees, axes from that on for everything) | [14:38] |
jurov | milked the goats, lol | [14:39] |
Bicknellski | when that video was made... 3,556,946,153 | [14:39] |
Bicknellski | hahaa | [14:39] |
Bicknellski | meh... | [14:39] |
Bicknellski | why bother ... | [14:39] |
Bicknellski | I mean that is whole point... we dont have to anymore... | [14:40] |
Bicknellski | pfft | [14:40] |
Bicknellski | unpasteurized | [14:40] |
Bicknellski | good luck | [14:40] |
Bicknellski | mind you I have had whole milk before | [14:40] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:40] |
jurov | lol, ur mom fed you unpasteurized milk | [14:40] |
Bicknellski | less you having sex with the goat | [14:41] |
jurov | at least i hope | [14:41] |
Bicknellski | ... or cow | [14:41] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:41] |
Bicknellski | Did she ? | [14:41] |
Bicknellski | are you sure I wasnt bottle fed? | [14:41] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:41] |
Bicknellski | I prefer the modern world in many ways over the ancient | [14:42] |
Bicknellski | ... just a lot easier to live | [14:42] |
Bicknellski | I like that | [14:42] |
Bicknellski | dentistry | [14:42] |
Bicknellski | especially | [14:42] |
Bicknellski | you grow it all? | [14:42] |
Bicknellski | every last thing you eat? | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | wow nice | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | oh... so no | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | ya... making your own bread be a bitch | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | get the wheat | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | grind it up | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | etc etc | [14:43] |
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Bicknellski | few people live like that today | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | very few | [14:43] |
Bicknellski | You need some space | [14:44] |
Bicknellski | ya they should | [14:44] |
Bicknellski | ... bastards giving farmers crops that can't reseed | [14:44] |
Bicknellski | that is just tip of the iceberg | [14:44] |
Bicknellski | is it 420 selling heirloom veggie seeds for bitcoin? | [14:45] |
Bicknellski | ya youd hate to think if the seed all failed what do you do then? | [14:45] |
Bicknellski | If I had more space I'd do more hydroponics | [14:46] |
Bicknellski | we had a small fish and veggie set up at my last school | [14:46] |
Bicknellski | got a few fish and lots of tomatoes and lettuce from it | [14:46] |
Bicknellski | pretty efficient | [14:47] |
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Bicknellski | did a year course on that | [14:47] |
Bicknellski | ... lots of issues with it | [14:47] |
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Bicknellski | but doable | [14:47] |
Bicknellski | use some miners to heat it | [14:47] |
Bicknellski | lol | [14:47] |
jurov | hehe | [14:48] |
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Bicknellski | lol | [14:49] |
Bicknellski | this week lol | [14:49] |
Bicknellski | cripes | [14:49] |
Bicknellski | dude 1 a day or more | [14:49] |
Bicknellski | hahaha | [14:49] |
Bicknellski | man... get some veg in ya | [14:50] |
Bicknellski | everyday | [14:50] |
Bicknellski | get fresh stuff | [14:51] |
Bicknellski | I eat salad twice a day... still a fat fuck. | [14:51] |
Bicknellski | ... damn cereal | [14:52] |
Bicknellski | it aint the meat it is bread that gets me | [14:52] |
Bicknellski | ya that is good | [14:52] |
Bicknellski | terrible for ya | [14:52] |
Bicknellski | bread is also a nasty one | [14:52] |
Bicknellski | too good to give up | [14:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19570 @ 0.00063647 = 12.4557 BTC [+] | [14:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063911 = 3.1956 BTC [+] | [14:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23540 @ 0.00063912 = 15.0449 BTC [+] | [14:54] |
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Bicknellski | no doubt... till your electricity costs for the lamps get the cops coming | [15:00] |
Bicknellski | Pretty much anything can be hydro | [15:00] |
Bicknellski | just need the right medium | [15:00] |
Bicknellski | I dont know about weed. | [15:00] |
Bicknellski | but the key is water flow temp and nutrients | [15:01] |
Bicknellski | there are many ways to set up hydro | [15:01] |
Bicknellski | and keeping things clean | [15:01] |
Bicknellski | doesn't take much to screw up a greenhouse | [15:02] |
Bicknellski | also get a good book on house plant pests | [15:02] |
Bicknellski | and be away of the signs for them | [15:02] |
Bicknellski | mealy bug spider mites scale etc | [15:03] |
Bicknellski | white fly | [15:03] |
Bicknellski | aphids | [15:03] |
Bicknellski | if you do it right should never get infestations | [15:03] |
Bicknellski | prevention best solution | [15:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00063621 = 3.1811 BTC [-] | [15:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.0006362 = 5.2168 BTC [-] | [15:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00063234 = 4.2367 BTC [-] | [15:04] |
Bicknellski | that means sterilization of the soil | [15:04] |
Bicknellski | etc | [15:04] |
Bicknellski | or keeping water flowing properly | [15:04] |
Bicknellski | etc | [15:04] |
Bicknellski | ... so many little signs if you have read up on it | [15:04] |
Bicknellski | you can tell immediately when any plant is having issues | [15:05] |
Bicknellski | at any stage | [15:05] |
DeadWeas1l | ;;ticker | [15:05] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.57899, Best ask: 29.60001, Bid-ask spread: 0.02102, Last trade: 29.60001, 24 hour volume: 31344.00259639, 24 hour low: 29.05809, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.61812 | [15:05] |
Bicknellski | color, leave shape, size etc | [15:05] |
Bicknellski | some great books put out by US GOv | [15:06] |
Bicknellski | on this stuff | [15:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [-] | [15:06] |
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Bicknellski | nope | [15:17] |
Bicknellski | stay away from Durian | [15:17] |
Bicknellski | gov books? | [15:17] |
Bicknellski | hmmm let me see | [15:17] |
Bicknellski | http://vric.ucdavis.edu/pdf/greenhouse_vegproduction.pdf | [15:21] |
Bicknellski | check the bibliography | [15:21] |
Bicknellski | Ontario | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | is a great resource for | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | info on farming | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | particularly greenhouse | [15:22] |
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Bicknellski | also try state level | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | Ohio NY | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | etc | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | Michigan | [15:22] |
Bicknellski | and universities also put out free publications | [15:22] |
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Bicknellski | http://www.colostate.edu/Dept/CoopExt/Adams/gh/pdf/Intro_Hydroponics.pdf <-- nice little powerpoint on the key ideas you need to learn | [15:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5119 @ 0.0006394 = 3.2731 BTC [+] | [15:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1827 @ 0.00576725 = 10.5368 BTC [+] | [15:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0060899 = 3.045 BTC [+] | [15:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @ 0.00609 = 2.1315 BTC [+] | [15:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5095 @ 0.00064089 = 3.2653 BTC [+] | [15:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00064221 = 3.2111 BTC [+] | [15:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00064223 = 4.6883 BTC [+] | [15:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4755 @ 0.0006436 = 3.0603 BTC [+] | [15:45] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.04001 = 0.08 BTC [+] | [15:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 4 @ 0.04 = 0.16 BTC [-] | [15:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11245 @ 0.0006436 = 7.2373 BTC [+] | [15:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7855 @ 0.00064361 = 5.0556 BTC [+] | [15:50] |
Chaang-Noi | assbot only does the mpex exchange or all other exchanges just really dead? | [15:56] |
Chaang-Noi | i say this as i see btctc.. never mind | [15:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006436 = 2.781 BTC [+] | [16:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2329 @ 0.00064361 = 1.499 BTC [+] | [16:01] |
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ThickAsThieves | assbot doesnt show Bitfunder | [16:05] |
jurov | Chaang-Noi there's also havelock,, but not bitfunder yet | [16:05] |
ThickAsThieves | nor LTCGlobal | [16:05] |
jurov | nor cryptostocks | [16:05] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [16:08] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222378 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1397 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 6 hours, 37 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4413585.84178 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.88666 | [16:08] |
ThickAsThieves | that's a 5% jump in est % change in one day | [16:08] |
ThickAsThieves | 5 point jump, to be clear | [16:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062991 = 2.7218 BTC [-] | [16:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6493 @ 0.00062979 = 4.0892 BTC [-] | [16:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3786 @ 0.00062978 = 2.3843 BTC [-] | [16:11] |
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Chaang-Noi | stock trading seems slower now than 6 months ago? | [16:13] |
kakobrekla | i think the btcusd ratio is getting all the attention currently | [16:14] |
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Chaang-Noi | ahh yeah | [16:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3964 @ 0.00062978 = 2.4964 BTC [-] | [16:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11652 @ 0.00062951 = 7.3351 BTC [-] | [16:19] |
Chaang-Noi | last second bids for asicminer here if anyone wants https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145333.20 | [16:20] |
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* | abracadabra bids 1 satoshi | [16:21] |
Chaang-Noi | outbid already :) | [16:21] |
Chaang-Noi | you dont have faith in asicminer? | [16:21] |
abracadabra | i don't like paying someone else to do what i can do myself | [16:22] |
Chaang-Noi | you can make asic chips? | [16:27] |
abracadabra | ... | [16:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3309 @ 0.0006364 = 2.1058 BTC [+] | [16:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1012 @ 0.0006364 = 0.644 BTC [+] | [16:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10288 @ 0.00063654 = 6.5487 BTC [+] | [16:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00062951 = 2.202 BTC [-] | [16:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062781 = 2.7128 BTC [-] | [16:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15915 @ 0.0006278 = 9.9914 BTC [-] | [16:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1066 @ 0.00062778 = 0.6692 BTC [-] | [16:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062802 = 2.7137 BTC [+] | [16:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4728 @ 0.00062778 = 2.9681 BTC [-] | [16:44] |
kakobrekla | ;;ticker | [16:48] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.67889, Best ask: 29.67890, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 29.67889, 24 hour volume: 32569.09251823, 24 hour low: 29.31000, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64323 | [16:48] |
kakobrekla | ;;calc 29.67/28.66 | [16:48] |
gribble | 1.03524075366 | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [16:58] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.65001, Best ask: 29.67990, Bid-ask spread: 0.02989, Last trade: 29.65001, 24 hour volume: 32598.32500006, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64408 | [16:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00062779 = 5.6187 BTC [+] | [17:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00062779 = 4.4259 BTC [+] | [17:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15406 @ 0.00062778 = 9.6716 BTC [-] | [17:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5644 @ 0.00062729 = 3.5404 BTC [-] | [17:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 99 @ 0.00619 = 0.6128 BTC [+] | [17:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8107 @ 0.00608999 = 49.3715 BTC [-] | [17:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19905 @ 0.00609 = 121.2215 BTC [+] | [17:21] |
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kakobrekla | case you missed it | [17:27] |
kakobrekla | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=145640.0 | [17:27] |
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deadweasel | urrency exchange using bitcoin? | [17:28] |
deadweasel | *c | [17:28] |
deadweasel | have you made any money there? | [17:29] |
Chaang-Noi | wow i did not know you did that | [17:29] |
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Chaang-Noi | 1000x leverage, god damn, i would ahve shorted silver had i known | [17:30] |
kakobrekla | ... | [17:30] |
kakobrekla | never too low to sell, never too high to buy | [17:30] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah, i dont have time now but i will look into it | [17:30] |
kakobrekla | i have 500btc account with 1000 leverage, doesnt mean i go all in. | [17:35] |
kakobrekla | u fail maffs. | [17:35] |
kakobrekla | mebbe | [17:36] |
kakobrekla | i can go short/long with ~6 lots with that, which is 0.6 MIO units | [17:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006291 = 2.7183 BTC [+] | [17:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00062943 = 10.0709 BTC [+] | [17:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 729 @ 0.00062944 = 0.4589 BTC [+] | [17:40] |
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kakobrekla | you mean the opposite. | [17:41] |
kakobrekla | rofl | [17:42] |
kakobrekla | you forgot our convo from yesterday? | [17:42] |
kakobrekla | not worth going into it if you forget so quickly | [17:43] |
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kakobrekla | wishing me luck for my personal trading? well thanks, what can i say. | [17:45] |
kakobrekla | yes like you will make any real money with your silver sellfofs | [17:47] |
kakobrekla | i back the exchange? | [17:47] |
kakobrekla | where does it say that | [17:47] |
kakobrekla | yes, i tell em to open 500btc account while i hold the funds | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | they back it with their money | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | you blow, i send them your btc | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | you win, they send me more | [17:48] |
kakobrekla | its a great way to pump more money into btc | [17:49] |
kakobrekla | if we can get some serious earners | [17:49] |
kakobrekla | (working on it) ;) | [17:50] |
kakobrekla | you can | [17:51] |
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deadweasel | i think usagi wants physical silver.... | [17:51] |
deadweasel | not at all. | [17:52] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 13 @ 0.01 = 0.13 BTC [+] | [17:52] |
deadweasel | i figured out we are at a low for the last 3 years in silver. | [17:52] |
deadweasel | right? | [17:52] |
jcpham | sell! | [17:52] |
jcpham | bigh high! | [17:53] |
jcpham | i am. sell low buy high! | [17:53] |
deadweasel | I'm asking about historical data | [17:53] |
kakobrekla | same shit goes for btc heheh | [17:54] |
Chaang-Noi | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18xoab/bfl_update_02202013_820_pst/ | [17:55] |
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kakobrekla | last call | [17:56] |
kakobrekla | http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ | [17:56] |
kakobrekla | hehe | [17:56] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah im well into that on the no | [17:57] |
Chaang-Noi | i did well on the silver one, it paid like 24% right before it closed :) | [17:58] |
Chaang-Noi | 124% rather | [17:59] |
kakobrekla | :) | [17:59] |
deadweasel | i have not watched it, nor do I know metals | [18:00] |
deadweasel | I just knew it 2007 it was time to buy, so I did. | [18:00] |
deadweasel | ;;slap deadweasel | [18:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062803 = 2.7137 BTC [-] | [18:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61 @ 0.00062779 = 0.0383 BTC [-] | [18:08] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;ticker | [18:10] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.50001, Best ask: 29.56999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 29.57498, 24 hour volume: 32461.92968870, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87035, 24 hour vwap: 29.64290 | [18:10] |
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Chaang-Noi | ;;slap usagi | [18:10] |
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Chaang-Noi | lol | [18:10] |
Chaang-Noi | wtf is an entrain anyway? | [18:11] |
deadweasel | ;;slap Chaang-Noi | [18:15] |
* | gribble slaps Chaang-Noi with a exhilaration GPG key | [18:15] |
Chaang-Noi | sorry usagi i just wanted to see gribble hurt you, seems i failed | [18:15] |
Chaang-Noi | im waiting to hear back from nefario or his lawyer | [18:16] |
Chaang-Noi | i dont think he really had a lawyer | [18:16] |
Chaang-Noi | i think he just paid some guy for a bit of advice... | [18:17] |
Chaang-Noi | i did my lawyer tried to contact the lawyer he claimed he had, no responce | [18:19] |
Chaang-Noi | meaning i dont think he was really acting for nefario like he claimed | [18:19] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah, that is what im saying | [18:19] |
Chaang-Noi | tempted to sell 100 btc :/ | [18:19] |
Chaang-Noi | hmm, i kick myself everytime i sell though... | [18:21] |
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Chaang-Noi | hey james | [18:24] |
JWU_42 | don't quite understand the bitbet | [18:24] |
JWU_42 | hrm | [18:24] |
JWU_42 | it says "customers" | [18:24] |
JWU_42 | that is plural | [18:24] |
JWU_42 | customers would also imply somone who has paid for said item | [18:25] |
JWU_42 | so if supplied gratis to a dev that counts? | [18:25] |
JWU_42 | or no | [18:25] |
kakobrekla | not a customer, then no | [18:25] |
JWU_42 | so - the dev pays $1 - they are a customer? | [18:26] |
kakobrekla | regular sixpack joe counts | [18:26] |
JWU_42 | this has the potential to get very sticky | [18:26] |
kakobrekla | i dont think it will be any mess at all | [18:26] |
kakobrekla | da wat? | [18:27] |
ThickAsThieves | those justice bets probly have more holes in them than the BFL one | [18:28] |
ThickAsThieves | bets where "if one of these 3 happen" are lame | [18:29] |
kakobrekla | submit a better one, what is the problem? | [18:30] |
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jcpham | how do i access these btc-tc payouts i keep getting emailed about again | [18:34] |
jcpham | i just created an account | [18:34] |
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Lethe | jcpham: see if you can find an email titled such as "BTC-TC New Account Created - Claim your [assetnamehere] shares!" it contains the account info for specified asset | [18:42] |
jcpham | nothing like that i checked | [18:42] |
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jcpham | i contacted their support | [18:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062929 = 2.0767 BTC [+] | [18:43] |
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mircea_popescu | god i love shopping in this country. | [18:53] |
kakobrekla | hmm | [18:55] |
kakobrekla | can someone sell me 1 share of tu.silver here in otc gpg signed contract, you get keep holding the share for me | [18:56] |
mircea_popescu | basically like a broker | [18:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1021 @ 0.00062929 = 0.6425 BTC [+] | [18:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00062943 = 10.0709 BTC [+] | [18:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 529 @ 0.00062944 = 0.333 BTC [+] | [18:57] |
kakobrekla | i give you an address? | [18:57] |
kakobrekla | i thought you give me an address and i send you wahtever the ask is | [18:57] |
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deadweasel | that comes later | [19:00] |
deadweasel | first he buy, then you send div. buy first! | [19:00] |
kakobrekla | you can keep the divs going towards your 200 btc debt to me | [19:00] |
kakobrekla | right. | [19:01] |
kakobrekla | anywho address? | [19:01] |
kakobrekla | deal. | [19:02] |
kakobrekla | now i get to ask you questions. | [19:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062805 = 2.7138 BTC [-] | [19:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15939 @ 0.00062779 = 10.0063 BTC [-] | [19:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 390 @ 0.00062778 = 0.2448 BTC [-] | [19:04] |
kakobrekla | first question; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1546396#msg1546396 | [19:05] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla the guy with the gold bars, galt or w/e... he has pix of the loot, serials and whatnot. | [19:07] |
kakobrekla | i wanna see maffs | [19:07] |
ThickAsThieves | http://jonmillward.com/blog/studies/deep-inside-a-study-of-10000-porn-stars/ | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | dat title... | [19:11] |
deadweasel | saw that, shorter careers, quicker anal | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | nice way of going about extracting a grant out of jacking off all day. | [19:11] |
deadweasel | wish I'd thought about it first | [19:13] |
ThickAsThieves | "Foxconn: Our hiring freeze has nothing to do with iPhone 5" | [19:15] |
ThickAsThieves | tomorrow's headline will be Foxconn: Our hiring freeze has everything to do with iPhone 5 | [19:15] |
ThickAsThieves | cuz thats how all foxconn news goes | [19:15] |
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jurov | my outsider impression of porn industry is like everyone is utterly bored there | [19:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062927 = 2.7191 BTC [+] | [19:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8579 @ 0.00062943 = 5.3999 BTC [+] | [19:19] |
kakobrekla | yes | [19:20] |
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kakobrekla | always the problem of finitive amounts of holes to fuck | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | jurov not even that far off. | [19:20] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-] | [19:24] |
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mircea_popescu | http://ro.stiri.yahoo.com/cna-fost-executat-silit-antena-3-pentru-plata-122221700.html | [19:31] |
mircea_popescu | you won't be reading that cause it's in romanian, but! | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | the romanian FCC fined a local tv station. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | tv station sued the fcc, and won. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | court issued punitive damages | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | the FCC employees are now not receiving their pay because the FCC is being executed for the amount. | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | reasons to love romania. | [19:33] |
ThickAsThieves | nice | [19:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062786 = 2.713 BTC [-] | [19:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8229 @ 0.00062778 = 5.166 BTC [-] | [19:36] |
deadweasel | ;;ticker | [19:38] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.77060, Best ask: 29.87777, Bid-ask spread: 0.10717, Last trade: 29.77060, 24 hour volume: 32710.64861839, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.87777, 24 hour vwap: 29.64796 | [19:38] |
kakobrekla | ok thanks usagi | [19:40] |
kakobrekla | will see what dt says then ;) | [19:40] |
markedathome | I see the farce that is glbse carries on - "lost the flash drive containing the gpg keys" .... | [19:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.825 = 3.3 BTC [-] | [19:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5881 @ 0.00062778 = 3.692 BTC [-] | [19:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6116 @ 0.00062762 = 3.8385 BTC [-] | [19:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 924 @ 0.0006273 = 0.5796 BTC [-] | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | markedathome eh ?! news to me. what's this ? | [19:50] |
markedathome | mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1540424#msg1540424 | [19:51] |
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mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/why-love-romania-a-guide-for-the-us-citizen/ | [19:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.00062908 = 2.0131 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @ 0.0213 = 0.213 BTC [-] | [20:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1121 @ 0.00062908 = 0.7052 BTC [+] | [20:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7421 @ 0.00062943 = 4.671 BTC [+] | [20:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16208 @ 0.00062944 = 10.202 BTC [+] | [20:23] |
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ThickAsThieves | asicminer update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg1546642#msg1546642 | [20:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2834 @ 0.00062944 = 1.7838 BTC [+] | [20:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063194 = 2.7306 BTC [+] | [20:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1879 @ 0.00063195 = 1.1874 BTC [+] | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | "Self-mining is an option but not emergent plan. Besides having fluctuation and being the target for cyber attack, we do not want to be involved in voting with our portion of the network yet." | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | that sounds ominous enough. | [20:44] |
kakobrekla | http://s2.postimage.org/okxft6fx5/2013_01_15_20_44_44.png | [20:46] |
kakobrekla | rofl | [20:46] |
kakobrekla | this is beyond retarded | [20:46] |
deadweasel | pennybot pushing up | [20:49] |
ThickAsThieves | i get uncomfortable just looking at micon | [20:49] |
ThickAsThieves | nvm being heckled by him | [20:49] |
markedathome | "... or other issues" -- yeah, he's being stalked by a troll... | [20:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15421 @ 0.00063195 = 9.7453 BTC [+] | [20:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1964 @ 0.00063401 = 1.2452 BTC [+] | [20:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39350 @ 0.00063485 = 24.9813 BTC [+] | [20:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4865 @ 0.00063548 = 3.0916 BTC [+] | [20:56] |
error4733 | wow micon... thy dude is in a other galaxy | [20:56] |
dub | All confirmation letters had been sent more than one month ago. Please check your spam folder if you did not find it. And please PM/mail me if you still could not. | [20:56] |
dub | what does that mean | [20:56] |
error4733 | this* | [20:56] |
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dub | do you need to reply to that to confirm shares? the only email I got just said 'you have N shares' | [20:56] |
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deadweasel | ;;ticker | [21:09] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 29.90700, Best ask: 29.92700, Bid-ask spread: 0.02000, Last trade: 29.92700, 24 hour volume: 33677.34763086, 24 hour low: 29.31100, 24 hour high: 29.96800, 24 hour vwap: 29.66112 | [21:09] |
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ThickAsThieves | so close | [21:11] |
deadweasel | volume doesn't cut it. people will dump, backslide | [21:11] |
deadweasel | but that's good too! | [21:11] |
deadweasel | I don't get it, when does this rise end? | [21:18] |
deadweasel | when a whale gets bored and dumps all? | [21:18] |
deadweasel | it's not infinite.... | [21:18] |
error4733 | yes is it | [21:18] |
error4733 | how genius whas satoshi omg | [21:19] |
error4733 | economy nobel the day he'll come back | [21:19] |
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dub | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.0 this is kinda concerning | [21:27] |
dub | does mircea_popescu really think the only kind of trading is 'hoard forever' or is -pr off meds | [21:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063027 = 2.7234 BTC [-] | [21:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14666 @ 0.00063006 = 9.2405 BTC [-] | [21:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062836 = 1.6966 BTC [-] | [21:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15076 @ 0.0006273 = 9.4572 BTC [-] | [21:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25137 @ 0.00062729 = 15.7682 BTC [-] | [21:28] |
dub | regardless you would have to be brain dead to buy g.mpoe | [21:28] |
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dub | which I crecall being a key feature of past DT enterprises | [21:32] |
dub | srsly, quoting from the same post - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.msg1542790#msg1542790 | [21:32] |
dub | "Arbitrage is a healthy thing for the market it brings down the spread and it's part of the free market hence I encourage it. I arbitrage when I see that the spreads are great and hence causes problems for people who want to sell/buy the shares." | [21:33] |
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dub | "This is some of the arguments which were used against Erik when he issued more shares, You are arguieing out of a speculation point of view, this is not investing but gambling. " | [21:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00062752 = 2.7115 BTC [+] | [21:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5379 @ 0.00062729 = 3.3742 BTC [-] | [21:33] |
dub | "For a investor the short term market price should not matter other then as a way to buy or sell at that price, as long as the underlying assets are the same a investor should not see a problem with issuing more shares." | [21:34] |
dub | the first quote sounds like he's going to 'arbitrage' his own passthrough | [21:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2650 @ 0.00597198 = 15.8257 BTC [-] | [21:35] |
ThickAsThieves | isnt that what he does? | [21:40] |
jborkl | That is what all market makers do, they scalp the difference. What is the problem? | [21:42] |
dub | he controls the market | [21:43] |
dub | he can add new stock at any time | [21:43] |
ThickAsThieves | it says that on the labe | [21:43] |
ThickAsThieves | l | [21:43] |
jborkl | You can buy from mpex then | [21:43] |
dub | yes, it does | [21:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | Asset Name G.SDICE | [21:45] |
ThickAsThieves | Asset Issuer DeaDTerra | [21:45] |
ThickAsThieves | Issuer may Increase Shares: Yes, without vote. | [21:45] |
dub | its not a bad model really, make up a bunch of really shitty vehicles that outright steal from investors, sit back and profit from the endless supply of retards | [21:45] |
ThickAsThieves | are you trolling? | [21:46] |
dub | no | [21:46] |
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jborkl | Don't be a cheap ass and buy from mpex then | [21:46] |
dub | jborkl: derp | [21:46] |
ThickAsThieves | i'll make one comment. if you don't like it, don't buy it. | [21:46] |
dub | double derp | [21:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.699 BTC [-] | [21:48] |
dub | whats scary is when someone shows up to pick it apart mircea_popescu rides in on his white horse to defend DT | [21:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00064 = 0.64 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00063 = 0.63 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00063 = 0.063 BTC [-] | [21:49] |
jurov | i converted some stuff into G.SDICE and wait for opportunity | [21:50] |
jurov | since i noticed DT often lags and ask side dries up completely | [21:50] |
jurov | cuz he is doing it seriously u know. no filthy arbitration | [21:50] |
jurov | *G.MPOE i mean | [21:51] |
dub | im not saying he has but he's left the door open | [21:51] |
ThickAsThieves | can someone buy shares on a passthru, and then afterwards buy an MPEX account and have those shares converted into the new MPEX account? | [21:51] |
jurov | yes, DT allows that. | [21:52] |
ThickAsThieves | fees? | [21:52] |
ThickAsThieves | or just a gentlemanly tip? | [21:52] |
jurov | free. but if you try to move there and back often he can refuse it. | [21:52] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;bc,stats | [21:55] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 222418 | Current Difficulty: 3651011.630693214 | Next Difficulty At Block: 223775 | Next Difficulty In: 1357 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 23 hours, 52 minutes, and 34 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 4403316.2215 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.60537 | [21:55] |
deadweasel | Don't buy assets. BTC is risky enough. | [21:56] |
deadweasel | my two cents, worth very little | [21:56] |
Namworld | Well it's two cent... | [21:57] |
jurov | you'll get swayed eventually.. better do it with proper research | [21:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062774 = 6.3402 BTC [+] | [21:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 946 @ 0.00062729 = 0.5934 BTC [-] | [21:58] |
deadweasel | well I did it, now I'm stuck with a few thousand SDICE shares that nobody wants. | [22:00] |
deadweasel | because I did before erik decided to dump another 2 milliion or so | [22:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1000 @ 0.00062 = 0.62 BTC [-] | [22:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00062 = 0.062 BTC [-] | [22:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [-] | [22:02] |
topace | mircea_popescu: you there ? | [22:04] |
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mircea_popescu | topace yea | [22:05] |
topace | excellent.. got a question for you regarding the PUSH receipts... | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | shoot | [22:06] |
topace | is it possible to get a UNIQUE identifier added to it ? | [22:06] |
mircea_popescu | they are already unique, just hash them | [22:06] |
topace | so i could, say, accept a pasted receipt into my website as a single-use receipt, to automatically credit an account | [22:06] |
topace | wouldnt an identical push of an identical number of units from identical fingerprint to identical fingerprint have identical receipts (and thus, identical hashes?) | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | think about it, they're gpg signed | [22:07] |
dub | deadweasel: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3t355y/ | [22:07] |
mircea_popescu | if you pgp-sign the same exact message ten million times you won't get a collision | [22:07] |
topace | hmmm | [22:08] |
topace | so a hash of the whole receipt could be my unique identifier, to prevent people from double-posting receipts (and trying to get double the units pushed) | [22:08] |
topace | just trying to figure out a way to let others do mpex<-->havelock arbitrage automatically | [22:09] |
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Namworld | don't forget that people might not have correct formatting when copying their receipt. | [22:10] |
topace | Namworld: then they are stupid | [22:10] |
topace | :p | [22:10] |
topace | if they dont format it right, it'll just reject it | [22:10] |
Namworld | I have to clean up mines for the signature to become valid. | [22:10] |
mircea_popescu | topace just make sure somewhere in tyhere you actually check the sig is valid mpex. | [22:10] |
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mircea_popescu | that will do the checking too. | [22:10] |
Namworld | Because the windows command line doesn't display the same as MPEx return | [22:10] |
Namworld | I must change spacings into actual tabs in notepad++ | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, the auto-crediting of pushes is a very good idea | [22:11] |
Namworld | copying the command line gives you spaces instead of tabs. | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | will bridge situations where mopex price moves and you're not around quite nicely, plus it decentralizes. so ++. | [22:12] |
topace | yup | [22:12] |
topace | so to verify the sig is valid, AND is signed by mpex, im just looking for the DSA Key ID to match? | [22:13] |
topace | gpg: Signature made Wed 20 Feb 2013 01:32:34 PM EST using DSA key ID F1B69921 | [22:13] |
topace | gpg: Good signature from "MP Stock Exchange (Visit http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/) |
[22:14] |
topace | so im just looking for a) "DSA Key ID F1B69921" and b) "Good signature" | [22:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14379 @ 0.00063467 = 9.1259 BTC [+] | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | topace yeah | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | if it says it's a good signature by MPEx key you're golden. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | also, make sure you read this : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/new-mpex-key/ | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld is that a /n vs /r/n issue ? | [22:19] |
thestringpuller | Namworld: will you be around tonight? | [22:19] |
topace | ahh switching your key eh? | [22:19] |
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mircea_popescu | well it expires | [22:21] |
topace | so as im writing this, i should accept both F1B69921 and CFE0F3E1 that way things wont break because i forget to change my end on March 10th :p | [22:22] |
Namworld | thestringpuller: is there some event happening or you'll just need me for something? | [22:22] |
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mircea_popescu | topace prolly should at least keep[ an eye for new key. | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | implementation details left to the exchange owner :) | [22:25] |
topace | indeed :) thanks.. this is gonna be awesome :) | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | :) | [22:28] |
dub | !tickr m s.dice | [22:32] |
dub | !ticker m s.dice | [22:32] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00562811 / 0.0060087 / 0.00609 (40513 shares, 243.43 BTC), 7D: 0.00562811 / 0.00635651 / 0.0069 (1414456 shares, 8,991.00 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.00592989 / 0.0075 (7769457 shares, 46,072.05 BTC) | [22:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00063544 = 1.3662 BTC [+] | [22:34] |
ThickAsThieves | SCAMMER | [22:39] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [22:39] |
Namworld | He doesn't like walls that compete with his sale offers maybe? =P | [22:42] |
dub | nothing to do with the threat of unannounced dumping by the issuer? | [22:44] |
deadweasel | ^ | [22:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | Deadterra, I was joking about an earlier complaint from dub | [22:47] |
ThickAsThieves | he doesn't like that you control your own passthru | [22:47] |
dub | I didn't say its a scam, just a shitty investment | [22:47] |
deadweasel | sounds more like he doesn't like unannounced dumping. | [22:47] |
deadweasel | i take unannounced dumps all the time, just not on other people. | [22:48] |
dub | yes and any sane investors unfomfortability | [22:48] |
ThickAsThieves | dub: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+joke | [22:48] |
deadweasel | later! | [22:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4821 @ 0.00063467 = 3.0597 BTC [-] | [22:55] |
ThickAsThieves | if you are actively arbing then the price stays more realistic anyway | [22:55] |
ThickAsThieves | i think dub's soreness stems from erik's 3mil share dump | [22:56] |
ThickAsThieves | probably waiting for shares to reach .0075 again | [22:56] |
kakobrekla | so this is lookin fleasible now http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/ | [22:59] |
kakobrekla | hihi. | [22:59] |
dub | I think ThickAsThieves is getting defensive about his investments | [23:02] |
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ThickAsThieves | dub, i'm invested all over the place | [23:06] |
ThickAsThieves | it's all good | [23:06] |
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ThickAsThieves | all money made from investing | [23:08] |
ThickAsThieves | kako, we'll see hot bbet divs look next then ;) | [23:09] |
ThickAsThieves | hot=how | [23:09] |
Namworld | My MPEx PTs on BTCT.co are 225% better than other MPEx PTs according to flawed studies I sponsored... | [23:11] |
Namworld | I guess the volumes are OK | [23:16] |
Namworld | We have comparable volume for S.DICE on BTCT.co | [23:17] |
Namworld | not monthly tho | [23:17] |
Namworld | aye | [23:19] |
thestringpuller | anyone here have lawyers at their disposal? | [23:19] |
Namworld | I'm off for lunch | [23:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6079 @ 0.00063169 = 3.84 BTC [-] | [23:27] |
topace | !ticker h sdice | [23:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.69900000 / 0.7085 / 0.71800000 (2 shares, 1.41700000 BTC), 7D: 0.66000000 / 0.70371784 / 0.75900000 (1380 shares, 971.13062090 BTC), 30D: 0.44000000 / 0.6615484 / 0.89000000 (11276 shares, 7459.61979386 BTC) | [23:32] |
topace | havelock has pretty good sdice volume | [23:32] |
topace | not today though :p lol | [23:32] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.69 = 2.07 BTC [-] | [23:32] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [+] | [23:40] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2171 @ 0.00063544 = 1.3795 BTC [+] | [23:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16949 @ 0.00063548 = 10.7708 BTC [+] | [23:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063548 = 2.0971 BTC [+] | [23:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 989 @ 0.00063274 = 0.6258 BTC [-] | [23:55] |
Namworld | "Seems like a huge risk to both sides with so many assets." | [23:56] |
jurov | so, some vocal members want to small block size as a leverage to get off-blockchain methods developed quicker | [23:56] |
Namworld | Can someone explain me how having 1 passthrough for each MPEx stock suddenly makes more risk appear out of thin air than if I had only one? | [23:56] |
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Namworld | I don't get the why of that anonymous' vote | [23:58] |
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