Forum logs for 21 Dec 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov | yeah, i'd be rather be fucking with something else, but that will be, too. | [00:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5395 @ 0.00062 = 3.3449 BTC [+] | [00:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.00062 = 4.34 BTC [+] | [00:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10490 @ 0.00062 = 6.5038 BTC [+] | [00:07] |
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jurov | https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/46399_233110583489421_1490839577_n.jpg | [00:14] |
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thestringpuller | its 12 21 in new zealand already so, uh whatever | [00:17] |
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Bugpowder | ;ticker | [00:26] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [00:26] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.63999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05998, Last trade: 13.56001, 24 hour volume: 36180.25779632, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.52947 | [00:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00062 = 6.262 BTC [+] | [00:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062 = 4.867 BTC [+] | [00:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4600 @ 0.00062 = 2.852 BTC [+] | [00:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00062 = 2.883 BTC [+] | [00:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 320 @ 0.18066152 = 57.8117 BTC [-] | [00:55] |
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thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [00:59] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.57214, Best ask: 13.59090, Bid-ask spread: 0.01876, Last trade: 13.57214, 24 hour volume: 37126.85270592, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.53985 | [00:59] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00062 = 2.232 BTC [+] | [01:00] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [01:13] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.58001, Best ask: 13.59900, Bid-ask spread: 0.01899, Last trade: 13.59890, 24 hour volume: 37146.18653791, 24 hour low: 13.32591, 24 hour high: 13.72000, 24 hour vwap: 13.54030 | [01:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2242 @ 0.00062 = 1.39 BTC [+] | [01:24] |
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smickles | thestringpuller: ya know, rather than doing multiple ;;tickers, if all you want is up to date exchange rates, /j #bitcoin-market | [01:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11237 @ 0.00062 = 6.9669 BTC [+] | [01:30] |
thestringpuller | im driving | [01:31] |
mod6 | there is a bitcoin price widget too for android. | [01:38] |
mod6 | check that out later when your velocity is lower. | [01:39] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [09:58] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://bitfunder.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi | [09:58] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Fri Dec 7 19:23:56 2012 | [09:58] |
mircea_popescu | smickles yes. jurov's representation is muchly exagerated :D | [09:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4976 @ 0.00062 = 3.0851 BTC [+] | [10:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14393 @ 0.00062 = 8.9237 BTC [+] | [10:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4232 @ 0.00062 = 2.6238 BTC [+] | [10:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00062 = 5.022 BTC [+] | [10:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1795 @ 0.00350019 = 6.2828 BTC [+] | [10:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1768 @ 0.00350489 = 6.1966 BTC [+] | [10:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00357336 = 2.144 BTC [+] | [10:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 837 @ 0.0036 = 3.0132 BTC [+] | [10:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24539864 = 245.3986 BTC [-] | [11:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17780145 = 177.8015 BTC [-] | [11:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1000 @ 0.12218421 = 122.1842 BTC [+] | [11:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.17711205 = 177.1121 BTC [-] | [11:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 1000 @ 0.24469787 = 244.6979 BTC [-] | [11:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 5 @ 0.00331001 = 0.0166 BTC [-] | [11:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00062 = 3.689 BTC [+] | [11:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13208 @ 0.00062 = 8.189 BTC [+] | [11:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00062 = 2.17 BTC [+] | [11:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7600 @ 0.00062 = 4.712 BTC [+] | [11:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.00062 = 2.511 BTC [+] | [12:01] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C150T] 370 @ 0.02807186 = 10.3866 BTC [-] | [12:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6843 @ 0.00062 = 4.2427 BTC [+] | [12:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.48844982 = 488.4498 BTC [-] | [12:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41387733 = 413.8773 BTC [-] | [12:26] |
mircea_popescu | Unfortunately, I have very bad news. I cannot currently proccess your withdrawals. The situation is very complicated and it's all my fault, that's why I feel terrible about it. I tried to make this up, to keep the site afloat and somehow recover the funds, but it's not possible anymore. Right now there are 1786 BTC pending withdrawal, which I can't honor... | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | bitmarket.eu is screwed. | [12:29] |
sgnb | mircea_popescu: will it be fixed eventually? | [12:31] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think so. | [12:31] |
mircea_popescu | and tbh i think keeping money in anything other than mtgox and those frenchypoofs with the eu partnership is at this point cruising for a bruising. | [12:32] |
mircea_popescu | the exchange market is going out of the "we can do anything" phase, there's no room left for one man and his hopes operations. which means pretty much all the extant ones will close down, and likely miost of them will close down ugly. | [12:33] |
mircea_popescu | spot sellers a la d&t DBordello etc are probably safe for a while yet, but in general it's a closing window. | [12:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00062 = 2.418 BTC [+] | [12:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @ 0.00062 = 5.053 BTC [+] | [12:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4254 @ 0.00062 = 2.6375 BTC [+] | [12:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7018 @ 0.00062 = 4.3512 BTC [+] | [12:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6630 @ 0.00062 = 4.1106 BTC [+] | [12:57] |
sgnb | mircea_popescu: you lost BTC because of bitmarket.eu? is there any public announcement of issues on their side? | [13:06] |
mircea_popescu | i lost nothing | [13:07] |
mircea_popescu | i saw the announcement, not sure if it was published | [13:07] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/ there it is quoted and adnotated. | [13:07] |
mircea_popescu | nm, it was announced i'm told. here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5441.msg1413156#msg1413156 | [13:08] |
sgnb | oh | [13:08] |
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sgnb | you were quoting | [13:09] |
* | sgnb thought mircea_popescu was yet another scammer... | [13:09] |
mircea_popescu | ... | [13:09] |
mircea_popescu | lmao! | [13:10] |
sgnb | yeah, me too | [13:10] |
mircea_popescu | what is with this expectation! it's getting ridiculous | [13:10] |
sgnb | well, everything in bitcoinland is a scam, isn't it? :-) | [13:11] |
mircea_popescu | in fairness, i should probably learn about quotation marks | [13:11] |
mircea_popescu | but you know... i was here before pirate. some people preferred bitcoinica to mpoe. those people got screwed. it was a choice tho wasn't it. | [13:11] |
Graet | um yeah, i misunderstood too, was looking in forum for your announce mircea_popescu | [13:12] |
mircea_popescu | well at any rate i'm not going bust over 1700 btc omfg. | [13:12] |
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markedathome | um... "there are 20161 19980 BTC missing (edit: I subtracted my funds that also were deposited on Bitmarket), and Bitcoinica claims total for around 50K USD" | [13:17] |
markedathome | 20161 is crossed out | [13:17] |
mircea_popescu | basically, he was trading 20k of OPM on the strenght of 180 of his own | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | this is 100:1 | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | and then took that leverage and did a 5:1 on top of it at bitcoinica | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | this is 500:1. | [13:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3774 @ 0.00062 = 2.3399 BTC [+] | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | i do not know anyone who ever did this before. ever. | [13:18] |
markedathome | OPM? | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | and he says he has experience. yet even hedge funds stop shy of 100:! | [13:18] |
mircea_popescu | other people's money. | [13:19] |
markedathome | oh, other people's money | [13:19] |
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mircea_popescu | http://bitcoinstatus.rowit.co.uk/hosts.html isn't this mildly concerning ? | [13:38] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin had ~60k hosts last sept but is around 18k now | [13:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3026 @ 0.00062 = 1.8761 BTC [+] | [13:45] |
EskimoBob | it's actually getting better, slowly, but still better than July/August | [13:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3634 @ 0.00062 = 2.2531 BTC [+] | [13:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 700 @ 0.05261037 = 36.8273 BTC [-] | [13:48] |
jurov | ;;seen rg | [13:48] |
gribble | rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 14 hours, 9 minutes, and 48 seconds ago: |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062 = 2.48 BTC [+] | [14:18] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 1000 @ 0.08460123 = 84.6012 BTC [-] | [14:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+] | [14:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062 = 4.092 BTC [+] | [14:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00062 = 5.766 BTC [+] | [14:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00062 = 8.37 BTC [+] | [15:05] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00062 = 1.674 BTC [+] | [15:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5776 @ 0.00062 = 3.5811 BTC [+] | [15:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00062 = 8.99 BTC [+] | [16:04] |
markedathome | mircea_popescu: people dropping bitcoin-client for electrum/armory/ webwallets? | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | must be | [16:09] |
mircea_popescu | kinda sucky tho. | [16:09] |
markedathome | though i am getting annoyed with electrum - what is it with "developers" using glorified text files as a database? | [16:10] |
jurov | hehe, good apology: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123492.msg1412053#msg1412053 | [16:12] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtG3HywuYlE | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | ahaha this is funny | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | "The percentage of working age Americans with a job has been under 59 percent for 39 months in a row." | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | jurov lol miracea ;/ | [16:14] |
mircea_popescu | for my sins | [16:14] |
* | Ukto renames mircea_popescu to Miracea | [16:15] |
Ukto | Can be your sister | [16:15] |
mircea_popescu | i was perturbed enough a year or so ago when i found out who mircea monroe is | [16:15] |
Ukto | shres pretty hot | [16:16] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [16:16] |
jurov | yes. wait when usagi finds out | [16:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.00062 = 6.169 BTC [+] | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | o boy. | [16:17] |
Ukto | you should use her imdb pic as your profile pic. REALLY confuse ppl. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1597260/ | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/mircea-mircea-monroe/ i think those are better | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | but yea, i'd do her. | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | and we could have babies and name them all mircea mircea | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | the girls could be mircea mircea after their mother | [16:18] |
mircea_popescu | and the boys mircea mircea after me | [16:18] |
jurov | so you'll change last name to mircea too? | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | what last names. they're going out of fashion. | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | "eNumbered is the choice of Occupy, Anonymous and Silk Road users." << ahaha people are seriously retarded enough to think this is a selling point ? | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | "use the same currency poor people use!!!" | [16:19] |
mircea_popescu | 100% backed by gold, 1.25% monthly guaranteed. | [16:20] |
mircea_popescu | apparently they've taken egold and added some ponzi to the mix. | [16:20] |
markedathome | that sounds vaguely solidcoin2.0ish - does it have account depreciation built in as well? | [16:22] |
mircea_popescu | not yet. possibly once they find the solidcoin forums | [16:23] |
* | Ukto only appreciates a few ppl. Generally I depreciate people. | [16:23] |
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Ukto | hey guys | [16:30] |
Ukto | how bad is usagi? | [16:30] |
Ukto | scammer tag wise? | [16:30] |
Ukto | I hear ppl make scam accusations, and other sregard him decently | [16:30] |
Ukto | he hasasked to list BMF on BF | [16:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00062 = 0.682 BTC [+] | [16:31] |
thestringpuller | he owes me 20btc | [16:31] |
Ukto | does he have plans to pay back? | [16:31] |
thestringpuller | from his "insured fund" | [16:31] |
Ukto | which fund | [16:31] |
thestringpuller | i wrote it off | [16:32] |
thestringpuller | nyan.a | [16:32] |
Ukto | i mean | [16:33] |
Ukto | he doesnt even have a scammer tag (yet) | [16:33] |
Ukto | and wrote he is trying to make good on BMF | [16:33] |
Anduck | bmf? | [16:33] |
Ukto | yea | [16:34] |
thestringpuller | he wants to liquidate | [16:34] |
thestringpuller | dont let him list | [16:34] |
Ukto | why bother relisting then? | [16:34] |
thestringpuller | smickles had a loan defaulted from him | [16:35] |
thestringpuller | and so on | [16:35] |
thestringpuller | all bad experiences | [16:35] |
thestringpuller | no good can come of listing his assets | [16:35] |
Ukto | smickles: ? | [16:35] |
Anduck | what is bmf, Ukto? | [16:36] |
Ukto | some asset usagi has been running | [16:36] |
Ukto | i am looking into it now | [16:36] |
Anduck | yes but what kind of | [16:36] |
Anduck | where the asset invested? | [16:36] |
Ukto | as soon as I find the thread ill tell you :P | [16:36] |
Anduck | alright | [16:37] |
thestringpuller | miing bonds | [16:37] |
* | chmod755|afk|fak is now known as chmod755 | [16:37] |
thestringpuller | smickles is mircea's broker | [16:37] |
Anduck | ahh | [16:37] |
Anduck | yes | [16:37] |
Anduck | is smickles legit? | [16:38] |
Ukto | very | [16:38] |
Anduck | good. | [16:38] |
Anduck | how many of you know him irl? | [16:38] |
Ukto | I havent personally seen anything negative re: smickles. only positive++ | [16:38] |
Ukto | thestringpuller: here is how I am seeing it | [16:39] |
Ukto | If he's listng just to liquidate, (he is already offered to pay the listing fee to use the service so meh), but.. even if its liquidation, at least it will help the community get something back | [16:40] |
Ukto | rather than all exchanges turning him down | [16:40] |
Ukto | and he says fuck it and buys nothing back | [16:40] |
Anduck | why did it got messed up? | [16:40] |
Anduck | GLBSE or piratE? | [16:40] |
Ukto | i have no idea | [16:40] |
thestringpuller | dude he should liquidate off exchangr | [16:40] |
Ukto | i cant find a detailed thread | [16:40] |
thestringpuller | and buy liquidate i mean bankruptcy | [16:40] |
thestringpuller | by* | [16:40] |
thestringpuller | his asets are no good | [16:41] |
thestringpuller | he has too much debt | [16:41] |
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mircea_popescu | Ukto well, he's nutty and fucked up a set of imaginary assets. | [16:46] |
mircea_popescu | you're probably looking at more drama than it's worth. | [16:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24595 @ 0.00062 = 15.2489 BTC [+] | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck he had a miningthing (bmf), an insurance thing (cpa) and a braindamaged cdo thing (nyan series) | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | none of these actually ever did what they were supposed to. the bmf thing never had actual mining gear, for isntance. | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | that as to usagi. | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | as to smickles i never met him irl but he's been my broker for a while and upstanding. | [16:48] |
Anduck | are _you_ trusted? | [16:48] |
Anduck | who are you? | [16:48] |
Anduck | what do you do? | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | o.o | [16:48] |
Anduck | what makes you trustful? | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | well, i am the mircea popescu of MPEx. | [16:48] |
Anduck | i know | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | a ok. so that's what i do. | [16:49] |
Anduck | what makes people trust you? | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | mmm. prolly best ask them ? | [16:49] |
Anduck | don't you know yourself?? | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | ;;getrating mircea_popescu | [16:49] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User mircea_popescu, rated since Fri Jul 22 08:04:26 2011. Cumulative rating 100, from 46 total ratings. Received ratings: 45 positive, 1 negative. Sent ratings: 56 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=mircea_popescu | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | there's a list. | [16:49] |
Anduck | do people know you irl? | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | btc people ? not rly. | [16:49] |
Anduck | ok | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | but if you come by timisoara you can buy me a drink. | [16:51] |
Anduck | well why do people trust you | [16:51] |
Anduck | if i made a exchange and named it "anducks exchange" , would people use i? | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | possibly not at first. it's been going for a while tho. | [16:51] |
Graet | lol | [16:51] |
Graet | trust is built | [16:52] |
Anduck | well | [16:52] |
Graet | people act in a trustworthy way and people trust them | [16:52] |
thestringpuller | mircea makes me money | [16:52] |
mircea_popescu | Graet his q is pretty stumping tho. i mean, why do people trust one! | [16:52] |
Anduck | pirate built a nice trust and then boom scammed | [16:52] |
thestringpuller | usagi loses me money | [16:52] |
thestringpuller | do the math | [16:52] |
Anduck | thestringpuller: i guess pirate made you monies too xD | [16:52] |
Graet | asking someone why ppl trust them is a rather loaded question | [16:52] |
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Anduck | well | [16:52] |
Anduck | Graet: have you met him irl? | [16:52] |
Graet | ask some of the ppl that trust him why they do would makle more sense :) | [16:52] |
thestringpuller | pirate lost me money and i had 0 exposure | [16:52] |
Anduck | do you even know where he lives? | [16:52] |
Anduck | what makes him not to run with your moeny? | [16:53] |
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mircea_popescu | i think some people met pirate or else someone hired for the job at some point | [16:53] |
Graet | no, but i havent met you either, nor most of the 150 odd ppl that trust me and mine on my pool | [16:53] |
Anduck | people STILL think pirate will come back and pay-WILL HE? | [16:53] |
jcpham | so i'm reading this vladimir vs. magazine thread | [16:53] |
Anduck | yeah they met pirate | [16:53] |
Graet | 250* | [16:53] |
Anduck | they met pirate and so pirate got like 100k more btc from them or something | [16:53] |
Graet | so meeting someone proves? | [16:53] |
mircea_popescu | Graet arguably tho, much less trust is needed to mine on a pool. at most they lose a few day's hash | [16:53] |
Graet | indeed | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | then again, there was that pool-cum-ponzi combo recently | [16:54] |
Graet | my point is trust is built, not just given | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | that's for sure. | [16:54] |
thestringpuller | Ukto: usagi run assets are bad news but dont take our word for it | [16:54] |
Anduck | Graet: well do you have any kind of agreement on anything | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | moreover, if someone knew why people trust them they could hack more trust i guess | [16:54] |
Graet | Anduck, agreement with who? | [16:54] |
Anduck | i mean.. with mircea_popescu | [16:54] |
Graet | no | [16:54] |
Anduck | what if mircea_popescu now took all the monies xD | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | agreement to what ? | [16:54] |
Anduck | and ran | [16:55] |
Anduck | mircea_popescu: tell me what makes you not to run with the money? | [16:55] |
Graet | he interviewed me for his magazine ~ 18 months ago | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu | nothing makes me. | [16:55] |
Graet | apart from that we have cjhatted on irc. i dont see your point | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu | hence trust. | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu | Graet o right i recall! | [16:55] |
Graet | ;) | [16:55] |
Anduck | well | [16:55] |
Anduck | people trusted _some random guy from internet_ with their life savings (btcst) | [16:56] |
Anduck | wasnt it enough a lesson | [16:56] |
Anduck | ? | [16:56] |
Graet | indeed | [16:56] |
Graet | i wasnt one... | [16:56] |
Anduck | i am not saying mircea_popescu isnt trustful | [16:56] |
Anduck | me neither | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck people get divorced all the time, is that a lesson not to get married ? | [16:56] |
Anduck | duh | [16:56] |
Graet | fuck yeah | [16:56] |
Anduck | bad example! | [16:56] |
Graet | i need a 2nd | [16:56] |
Graet | divorce that is | [16:57] |
Graet | :P | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu | ok, i got a better one maybe. cars crash all the time, is that a lesson not to drive ? | [16:57] |
Anduck | lol | [16:57] |
Anduck | but you drive the car yourself | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131608.msg1413383#msg1413383 is roger ver milking the forum for lulz by now ? | [16:58] |
mircea_popescu | Anduck for some values of "yourself". | [16:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00062 = 8.401 BTC [+] | [17:06] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: | [17:07] |
thestringpuller | i made a script to tell me how much mobey youve made based on the shares left | [17:08] |
thestringpuller | 1800 btc richer ;) | [17:08] |
thestringpuller | err 6200* | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker (10000000-6702311)* 0.00062 | [17:09] |
gribble | (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message) | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc (10000000-6702311)* 0.00062 | [17:09] |
gribble | 2044.56718 | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | bout 2k | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | incidentally, maybe this is a good answer for anduck | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu | i'm currently worth some 10s of k's in cash and some 100s of k's in stock | [17:11] |
mircea_popescu | it makes no sense to run off. | [17:11] |
thestringpuller | you are retired | [17:11] |
thestringpuller | where would you run too? | [17:11] |
thestringpuller | to* | [17:11] |
Anduck | sell all shit n run like ni...ni...nig....RUNN!! | [17:12] |
mircea_popescu | i was, but i came back out of it. | [17:12] |
mircea_popescu | nobody can stay retired for long before they're 60 or so i don't think | [17:12] |
thestringpuller | wise words | [17:30] |
jcpham | i'm sortof getting bored with all of this | [17:31] |
mircea_popescu | all of it ? | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | here, feel better http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135610253771.gif | [17:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8908 @ 0.00062 = 5.523 BTC [+] | [17:35] |
jurov | coinbr.com now working...outside bitvps | [17:35] |
jurov | live.coinbr.com not yet | [17:36] |
jurov | whole thing is such a farce...james did not pay for internet conenciton to switzerland datacenter | [17:37] |
jurov | he is noit reachable now and new owners supposedly can't do anything about that | [17:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30710 @ 0.00062 = 19.0402 BTC [+] | [17:37] |
jcpham | i payed it last month btw | [17:40] |
jcpham | switzerland | [17:40] |
pigeons | will new owners trigger section "g" of the S.BVPS? | [17:40] |
jcpham | if I hadn't rebooted my PC in the last month | [17:41] |
jcpham | I'd have the swiss login | [17:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00062 = 3.875 BTC [+] | [17:41] |
Ukto | As of this point, I am waiting for Usagi's ticket reply | [17:41] |
Ukto | on what his plans are for sure | [17:41] |
mircea_popescu | uh | [17:43] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons quite possibly. giving them a little time to come up with proper reports and everything | [17:44] |
mircea_popescu | my understanding is rg's records were messy. | [17:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00062 = 10.168 BTC [+] | [17:45] |
jcpham | i've paid the swiss bill 3 times now | [17:47] |
jcpham | if that tells you anything | [17:47] |
jcpham | 2x i had to find out from rg that the bill was due | [17:48] |
jcpham | and that's why my vps was offline | [17:48] |
jurov | and new owners knew nary of that? | [17:49] |
jcpham | sorry i'll stfu | [17:49] |
jcpham | shrug | [17:49] |
jcpham | i've already grpp'd my logs and i don't have th login info anymore to pay it again | [17:50] |
jcpham | i had it in a pm but it is gone now | [17:50] |
JWU_42 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75867.msg1413513#msg1413513 | [17:50] |
JWU_42 | apologies it got to this for those who invested | [17:50] |
jcpham | ty | [17:51] |
JWU_42 | jcpham: appreciate your patience with this... | [17:51] |
jcpham | i'm fine | [17:52] |
jcpham | tbh if you never pay i won't complain | [17:52] |
jurov | jcpham, okay but you're the owner? or why does namjies &co act surprised over this? | [17:52] |
jcpham | sorry jurov i know nothing | [17:52] |
jcpham | i own nothing | [17:52] |
jcpham | my swiss vps has been offline 3x now and i've payed the bill to get it backonline | [17:53] |
jcpham | rg gave me bitcoins | [17:53] |
jcpham | for my services | [17:53] |
jcpham | and by "payed the bill" I payed the swiss datacenter to get everyone's vps's back running | [17:53] |
jcpham | rg seemed to forget about switzerland | [17:54] |
JWU_42 | jcpham: I might need to take you up on that depending how this goes ;) | [17:54] |
jcpham | we're talking maybe 10btc total | [17:55] |
JWU_42 | that is NOT the plan, however | [17:55] |
jcpham | which i want but it isn't going to help or hurt me | [17:55] |
JWU_42 | jcpham: yeah | [17:55] |
Ukto | [09:43]
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JWU_42 | the most vocal people are folks with <100 shares | [17:55] |
jcpham | silliness JWU42 | [17:55] |
jcpham | _ | [17:55] |
jcpham | at one point in time at close 1000 shares | [17:56] |
jcpham | but i sold them | [17:56] |
JWU_42 | I understand their frustration - I lost out on several GLBSE assets as well - but like you - for a dozen or so BTC - not worth the emotional energy to spaz over it | [17:56] |
JWU_42 | but everyone has their right to be pissed | [17:57] |
jcpham | people need their drugs off sr | [17:57] |
jcpham | baaaad | [17:57] |
JWU_42 | heh | [17:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062 = 3.596 BTC [+] | [17:57] |
mircea_popescu | jcpham maybe you should get in touch with ajit/namjies ? | [18:00] |
jurov | we're all so in touch | [18:01] |
jurov | already | [18:01] |
pigeons | rg not meticulous with paperwork? no way | [18:07] |
thestringpuller | bitcoin d is cool as shit | [18:08] |
thestringpuller | jurov | [18:08] |
thestringpuller | i herd you have a coinbr api :P | [18:08] |
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mircea_popescu | pigeons ikr, fud | [18:13] |
jurov | thestringpuller, not yet. i was just waiting for someone to ask for it | [18:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6662 @ 0.00062 = 4.1304 BTC [+] | [18:15] |
mircea_popescu | soo, Anduck and co made it in a new post. | [18:18] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/ | [18:18] |
mircea_popescu | it's long but i really want to hear what the wise think. | [18:18] |
mircea_popescu | [18:18] | |
Anduck | mircea_popescu? | [18:18] |
Anduck | yay | [18:19] |
Anduck | man i made it in the post | [18:20] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [18:20] |
Anduck | damn irc logs can be pasted anywhere!! | [18:21] |
Anduck | u included my jokes in it! goddamnyou" | [18:21] |
Anduck | well its ok | [18:21] |
Anduck | monies and the nignigrun | [18:22] |
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Anduck | hmmm.. | [18:24] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:24] |
Anduck | btw mircea_popescu: what makes mpex superior to other exchanges?? | [18:24] |
mircea_popescu | http://mpex.co/faq.html#14 | [18:24] |
Anduck | ok | [18:25] |
Anduck | =) | [18:25] |
EskimoBob | lol | [18:30] |
jurov | Double Cherry Truck insignia? | [18:30] |
jurov | every time i reread the faq, a new surprise | [18:31] |
thestringpuller | ;;tslb | [18:32] |
gribble | Time since last block: 31 minutes and 26 seconds | [18:32] |
mircea_popescu | jurov :D | [18:32] |
thestringpuller | cause no one expects the spanish inquisition | [18:34] |
mircea_popescu | JWU42 what's the total yabmc story ? about 20k or so ? | [18:36] |
Anduck | mircea_popescu: wtf is that crap doing in the FAQ page | [18:38] |
Anduck | "awards" and other stuff that makes "REAL WORLD PEOPLE" think it as a joke | [18:38] |
Anduck | one running a system like that should not treat is as a joke in any way | [18:39] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess it makes real world people think of it as a joke. | [18:39] |
mircea_popescu | because why ? | [18:39] |
Anduck | tell me | [18:39] |
Anduck | i mean - it just seems to me like some kid made a site ....... | [18:39] |
Anduck | well if you want people to use your service | [18:40] |
Anduck | it's not the best way to also make people interested in BTC | [18:40] |
Anduck | when all the services are semi-jokes | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | i guess is the advantage of the rich - they see more humour in life ? | [18:40] |
Anduck | well , might be | [18:40] |
mircea_popescu | what;s the problem with a little fun ? | [18:40] |
Anduck | some may think it's too much fun | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | here's the difference : this service is doing things right and has a little humour. the others are mostly humourless hacks doing things wrong. | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | trying too hard is a failure mode. | [18:41] |
Anduck | mmmhh | [18:42] |
jurov | actually most other sites look like they are made by kids | [18:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.00062 = 4.278 BTC [+] | [18:42] |
EskimoBob | Anduck: if someone (mircea_popescu) writes about himself in third person, you know something is off. Especially, if they plaster their own name on every silly thing they think they "invented". | [18:45] |
EskimoBob | lol | [18:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 179 @ 0.00358628 = 0.6419 BTC [-] | [18:46] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: who are the 5 other businesses | [18:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14250 @ 0.00062 = 8.835 BTC [+] | [18:48] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller hard to say. mtgox and sdice are there for sure. | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | possibly the one asic maker that actually delivers is there too | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | we just don't know yet. | [18:49] |
Ukto | ROFLOL | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | maybe one or two miners | [18:49] |
Ukto | LTC-Global created security BMF | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | sr, possibly. | [18:49] |
Ukto | oh well | [18:49] |
Ukto | dont care | [18:49] |
EskimoBob | LOL | [18:49] |
mircea_popescu | which one is bmf again ? usagi ? | [18:50] |
Ukto | I guess that was Usagi's response to "What are your plans for BMF?" | [18:50] |
Ukto | He opened a ticket on BF wanting to list BMF | [18:50] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: yes | [18:50] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: code trading | [18:50] |
thestringpuller | thats the next big business | [18:50] |
thestringpuller | and review | [18:50] |
thestringpuller | like you said | [18:50] |
jurov | meh. i'll believe it once someone licenses coinbr code at fair price | [18:51] |
mircea_popescu | i sent rowit.co.uk folks a mail see if they're up for it | [18:51] |
Ukto | ROFLOL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88008.msg1413640#msg1413640 | [18:53] |
Ukto | someones getting jealous :P | [18:54] |
Ukto | unless crypto posted something that I somehow missed, and he doesnt want to link | [18:54] |
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thestringpuller | ;;tslb | [19:17] |
gribble | Time since last block: 6 minutes and 1 second | [19:18] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [19:18] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.54311, Best ask: 13.54999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00688, Last trade: 13.54311, 24 hour volume: 28976.00583363, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.55264 | [19:18] |
smickles | what? i see c11, c12, c13 and they skipped c14 (where my orders are) and went to c15! | [19:19] |
smickles | lolercakes | [19:20] |
smickles | < Ukto> smickles: ? << what's up? | [19:21] |
smickles | < Anduck> how many of you know him irl? << probably none, you anywhere near tucson AZ? | [19:22] |
thestringpuller | smickles | [19:22] |
Anduck | im in fin | [19:22] |
thestringpuller | i havr order for you lok | [19:22] |
thestringpuller | lol | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | smickles i think those were sells, by the price | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | were you buying ? | [19:26] |
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Ukto | smickles: Usagi had opened a ticket on BF asking to list BMF. I replied asking what his intentions were with the asset. He seems to have a pretty questionable history. | [19:27] |
Ukto | I got an email from btct.co a few min ago saying that BMF had been listed. | [19:28] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: oh, I guess that would've missed me anyway then :P | [19:28] |
Ukto | So I guess he didnt wanna answer my question. :P | [19:28] |
smickles | yeah, don't question usagi if you want him to pretend to do something | [19:29] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:29] |
* | Ukto srhugs, I could honestly care less | [19:29] |
Ukto | I dont midn shrugging the scamish assets onto the others | [19:29] |
Ukto | It's really more of a positive thing I think | [19:30] |
Ukto | :P | [19:30] |
smickles | anyway, i think my WoT rating of him puts my position clearly, he defaulted, an made good after default, but that's no reason for me to trust him now. | [19:30] |
Ukto | at least he made good so *shrug* | [19:31] |
Ukto | defaulting seems to have happened more than once for him in the past. | [19:31] |
PsychoticBoy | I want to get rid of 115 gigamining shares since I am not going to send my personal information to a kid behind his computer calling himself a lawyer, someone wants to take them | [19:32] |
mircea_popescu | iirc you can't do that. | [19:33] |
smickles | i bet you can with psy's life rights or something | [19:33] |
smickles | power of attorney in this matter | [19:33] |
smickles | is romainia like a weekend trip's distance from finland? | [19:34] |
Anduck | yeah | [19:35] |
Anduck | whatcha need? | [19:36] |
Anduck | 1k btc aaand i'll do it | [19:36] |
Anduck | (includes tickets to there and back + a simple job with no harm to anyone) | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | i think it's like 10-12 hours on train | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | europe has excellent trains | [19:36] |
Anduck | its more i guess | [19:36] |
Anduck | well yeah | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | being high density unlike the us | [19:36] |
EskimoBob | Ukto: is BMF getting re-listed? Oh nooo.... :) I hope usagi has learned something from his previous fuck ups | [19:37] |
mircea_popescu | ;;google distance timisoara Espoo | [19:37] |
gribble | Booking.com: Hotel Continental, TimiÅŸoara, Romania - 185 Guest ...: |
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mircea_popescu | pff | [19:37] |
Ukto | https://btct.co/security/BMF | [19:38] |
PsychoticBoy | wow usagi returns? | [19:38] |
smickles | Anduck: well, yeah, i was going to suggest you find out if mircea_popescu actually has a sex dungeon, but I wasn't going to pay hardly any btc to help out the venture. | [19:39] |
Ukto | read the asset details | [19:39] |
Ukto | its funny | [19:39] |
Ukto | :P | [19:39] |
Ukto | you will get some laughs | [19:39] |
EskimoBob | you understand that you have to go to Russia or take 2 boats, if you want to use a train for that | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | 2.2k km | [19:39] |
mircea_popescu | you just ferry across to like estonia | [19:39] |
PsychoticBoy | omg the saga continues | [19:40] |
EskimoBob | lol, sure | [19:40] |
mircea_popescu | smickles : send the missus, i send back pics ? | [19:40] |
smickles | sounds like a plan | [19:41] |
smickles | :P | [19:41] |
EskimoBob | PsychoticBoy: sounds like it. Round #2, lots of miscalculated NAV's and other BS :) | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | something like http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135186901024.jpg | [19:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5366 @ 0.00062 = 3.3269 BTC [+] | [19:42] |
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smickles | mircea_popescu: hmm, i see several better sticks available | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | before or after ? | [19:45] |
PsychoticBoy | Explain how your products and services are competitive. | [19:46] |
PsychoticBoy | --- Nobody could compete with us when I listed on the GLBSE, We blew MU, SS, | [19:46] |
PsychoticBoy | MINING and other funds out of the water. We were about 5 times bigger than every | [19:46] |
PsychoticBoy | other fund on GLBSE put together (from what I've seen of people's balance | [19:46] |
PsychoticBoy | statements). For some reason or other, people liked how I ran things. | [19:46] |
PsychoticBoy | lollol | [19:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00062 = 3.534 BTC [+] | [19:46] |
PsychoticBoy | my FDBF was far more better | [19:47] |
EskimoBob | lol "(Have to admit, I wasn't expecting this, and I lost the original BMF contract | [19:47] |
EskimoBob | when GLBSE went down. I'll propose this, and I'd like to make any changes you | [19:47] |
EskimoBob | suggest)" | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | lol wait, usagi was ever big ? | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | iirc never over 1-2k btc, was he ? | [19:47] |
EskimoBob | I guess this is what you get, when you delete your own posts | [19:47] |
PsychoticBoy | big jerk | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | dmc was 5x that when it started ffs. | [19:47] |
EskimoBob | mircea_popescu: total was about 8K BTC | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | total cpa + nyan + bmf | [19:47] |
smickles | lol, SS stayed small intentionally | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | lol he blew ss ? | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | should i snap out the visual aids for that "blew" ? | [19:48] |
smickles | Usagi himself even claimed he wanted to place 10000 btc with us | [19:48] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: use that pic of me with a smirk holding the camera, it's like i'm holding his poney-tails | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | well, usagi is a valuable dramadition to any exchange that'll have him. | [19:49] |
smickles | http://photobook.bitvps.com/index.php/ | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaah remember the good old days | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | but no, i was thinking more blew in the sense of http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135601348721.gif | [19:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4850 @ 0.00062 = 3.007 BTC [+] | [19:56] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: Why doesn't MPEx display open interest on options like MPOE used to? | [20:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 821 @ 0.00358628 = 2.9443 BTC [-] | [20:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 369 @ 0.00355917 = 1.3133 BTC [-] | [20:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 410 @ 0.00349819 = 1.4343 BTC [-] | [20:10] |
thestringpuller | boom the short is closed | [20:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12621 @ 0.00062 = 7.825 BTC [+] | [20:11] |
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smickles | breaking news, s.mpoe is worth as much as we want to trust mircea_popescu | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | smickles lol yeah | [20:23] |
mircea_popescu | re the open interest... already so many numbers in there ;/ | [20:24] |
mircea_popescu | re blog comment : for every 500 btc i make smpoe must appreciate by 5k ? is this sustainable ? | [20:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.0036 = 5.4 BTC [+] | [20:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11475 @ 0.00062 = 7.1145 BTC [+] | [20:27] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell namjies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.0 | [20:34] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [20:34] |
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EskimoBob | so they are on a verge of going out of business? | [20:45] |
gigavps | who? | [20:46] |
EskimoBob | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.0 | [20:46] |
EskimoBob | sounds really bad | [20:46] |
* | EskimoBob hugs gigavps | [20:47] |
gigavps | huh | [20:47] |
gigavps | did someone steal EskimoBob's handle | [20:47] |
mircea_popescu | EskimoBob tis unclear. new team trying to turn things around | [20:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062 = 3.72 BTC [+] | [20:48] |
EskimoBob | I hope they do and good luck with that. | [20:48] |
gigavps | ;;bc,stats | [20:50] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 213054 | Current Difficulty: 3370181.7992778 | Next Difficulty At Block: 213695 | Next Difficulty In: 641 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 8 hours, 22 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2919948.29465722 | Estimated Percent Change: -13.3593239604 | [20:50] |
gigavps | whoa | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | jurov live.coinbr.com is down ? | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | gigavps yes, diff has been dropping steadily. | [20:50] |
EskimoBob | BTW, 5519 shares left and div date is 22 so get in and enjoy | [20:50] |
EskimoBob | something that crawls up at 4-7% per week has to drop sooner or later | [20:51] |
gigavps | EskimoBob i thought you only bought turds, i didn't know you were selling them | [20:51] |
EskimoBob | and after halving... | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:51] |
JWU_42 | heh | [20:51] |
* | gigavps is kidding of course | [20:51] |
EskimoBob | i do not do mining gigavps so thy can not be turds | [20:51] |
EskimoBob | turd business is all yours, gigavps | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | i guess everyone was hoping for price spike, that didn'ty happen so miners are going offline | [20:52] |
EskimoBob | :) | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | worst scenario for btc, but hey. it's what it is. | [20:52] |
gigavps | asic will arrive soon enough | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | also means miner market is pretty much saturated/no more dollars pouring in | [20:52] |
JWU_42 | ^ +1 | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | which means asic companies have all the money they will everget, period. | [20:52] |
EskimoBob | and imaginary ASICS have not materialized so what else is there to expect | [20:52] |
mircea_popescu | if they fail to make asics in these runs, there's no asics in 2013 at all. | [20:53] |
mircea_popescu | and i suspect this is the more likely outcome. | [20:53] |
JWU_42 | no asic in 2013 = butthurt for me | [20:53] |
EskimoBob | 2013 Feb. is the most optimistic | [20:53] |
* | JWU_42 nods | [20:54] |
EskimoBob | so it's more like May if history repeats... and it usually does | [20:54] |
gigavps | lol | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | EskimoBob may is impossible. either jan, feb or march in degrading order of likeliness | [20:54] |
mircea_popescu | or else next year. | [20:54] |
gigavps | EskimoBob does have a point there | [20:55] |
mircea_popescu | all this due to capital constraints | [20:55] |
JWU_42 | well - October/November = Feb/March for BFL | [20:55] |
JWU_42 | this was proven before | [20:55] |
JWU_42 | ;) | [20:55] |
gigavps | has bASIC stopped communicating all together? | [20:55] |
JWU_42 | bASIC is Thom? | [20:55] |
gigavps | saw a couple posts of disgrunted people in the forums | [20:55] |
gigavps | yep | [20:55] |
kakobrekla | money flow cumulative is at all time high | [20:56] |
gigavps | i do find it interesting that he was only active when he wanted everyone's money | [20:56] |
JWU_42 | and saw they are rebuying (or he) fpga stuff at $.20 on the dollar | [20:56] |
kakobrekla | buyers still buying | [20:56] |
JWU_42 | maybe my numbers are a tad off | [20:56] |
gigavps | kakobrekla where did you get that stat? | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | tbh i think we are headed for a recession. | [20:56] |
kakobrekla | hold on | [20:56] |
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kakobrekla | http://shrani.si/f/36/Ao/4Zj9Ykv7/mfchigh.png | [20:59] |
kakobrekla | there ya go gigavps | [20:59] |
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gigavps | blue == buy? | [20:59] |
kakobrekla | red is price | [20:59] |
kakobrekla | blue is money flow | [20:59] |
gigavps | wow | [21:00] |
gigavps | it's higher than at the $29 peak | [21:00] |
kakobrekla | i told you it is all time high | [21:00] |
gigavps | holy fuckballs | [21:00] |
JWU_42 | this from Gox? | [21:01] |
gigavps | so the moneyflow scale is on the right? | [21:01] |
kakobrekla | yes gox | [21:01] |
JWU_42 | might color the axis red and blue | [21:01] |
gigavps | left | [21:01] |
JWU_42 | make it easier to discern | [21:01] |
kakobrekla | left is money flow right is price | [21:01] |
gigavps | kk | [21:01] |
kakobrekla | btw | [21:01] |
kakobrekla | money flow oscilator owns with bitcoin | [21:02] |
kakobrekla | ;) | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla im not sure i trust that data. | [21:02] |
kakobrekla | k | [21:02] |
JWU_42 | interefsting that price hasn't moved much despite the moneyflow | [21:02] |
JWU_42 | last time you had this moneyflow price went up about 4x | [21:03] |
kakobrekla | its pooling data with sierra chart plugin | [21:03] |
kakobrekla | so data is fine | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | for one, outflow far exceeds total inflow at most points. | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | this is a logical impossibility | [21:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00062 = 0.93 BTC [+] | [21:03] |
JWU_42 | makes sense | [21:03] |
JWU_42 | taking BTC to USD | [21:04] |
JWU_42 | or some other currency | [21:04] |
kakobrekla | volume made on uptick is bull on downtick is bear | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | outflow is outflow | [21:04] |
JWU_42 | maybe i am not "getting" the graph | [21:04] |
mircea_popescu | you can't have more outflow than the total inflow to date. | [21:04] |
thestringpuller | sell X.IDIFF.MAR | [21:05] |
kakobrekla | only btc usd on gox | [21:05] |
kakobrekla | not all btc traded every everywhere | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | even so. | [21:05] |
JWU_42 | mircea_popescu: I see your point... | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | it would propose most outflow goes through gox but not most inflow, which is nonsense | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | it's the other way around if anything | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | gox is used miostly for inflow, people take money out privately. | [21:06] |
kakobrekla | is about the direction of trade | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [21:06] |
JWU_42 | I would think the opposite - most epople sell via mtgox as price is highest (generally) | [21:06] |
JWU_42 | and buy elsewhere where prices are lower | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | nah cause people don't want the kyc | [21:06] |
thestringpuller | ni | [21:06] |
thestringpuller | no | [21:06] |
thestringpuller | inflow yo | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | the buyers are many and small timers, the sellers are few and sell large chunks | [21:06] |
mircea_popescu | not the other way around | [21:06] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: btc recession? | [21:07] |
JWU_42 | Then I break the rules | [21:07] |
kakobrekla | the chart is fine | [21:07] |
kakobrekla | perhaps we should call it cumulative delta | [21:07] |
kakobrekla | http://www.trade2win.com/articles/1670-trading-cumulative-delta-indicator | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | JWU42 obviously not actual rules, just tendencies | [21:08] |
JWU_42 | heh | [21:08] |
JWU_42 | I know | [21:08] |
JWU_42 | rules isn't the best word choice | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | o, well if its +delta then sure. | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | orders rather than actual trades | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | that's a sentiment guesser not a historical descriptor. | [21:09] |
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kakobrekla | its trades | [21:10] |
kakobrekla | its actual trades that happend with market orders | [21:11] |
kakobrekla | no limit order data | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | mmm | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | how do you even distinguish market from limit orders on mtgox, do they mark them in some api output ? | [21:12] |
kakobrekla | if one buys at market its obvious that on the other side there is a lmit order to be filled | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | a trade can be eitgher limit crossing limit or market crossing limit | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | i thought you said above this data is market orders only ? | [21:13] |
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mircea_popescu | in other news, btcjam lol. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1413923#msg1413923 | [21:13] |
kakobrekla | with mtgox you cant place a bid limit over ask | [21:13] |
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mircea_popescu | o srsly ? | [21:14] |
kakobrekla | ya | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | i guess it shows i never use it lol | [21:14] |
kakobrekla | its more useful for btc than anything else | [21:16] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13101 @ 0.00062 = 8.1226 BTC [+] | [21:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00062 = 2.356 BTC [+] | [21:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8848 @ 0.00062 = 5.4858 BTC [+] | [21:45] |
JWU_42 | that btcjam is BAD | [21:50] |
JWU_42 | ugh | [21:50] |
kakobrekla | urlpls | [21:51] |
JWU_42 | the one MP posted just above | [21:51] |
JWU_42 | 77% repayment | [21:51] |
JWU_42 | or 23% scam | [21:51] |
JWU_42 | BAD BAD BAD | [21:51] |
JWU_42 | well - maybe not scam | [21:52] |
JWU_42 | but not something that gets me excited to lend | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | its laughable | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | works out to like -99% API ? lol | [21:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850000 @ 0.00062 = 1767 BTC [+] | [22:01] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/is-smpoe-really-worth-that-much/#comment-91079 | [22:02] |
mircea_popescu | lmao this is today's top comedy | [22:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 420 @ 0.11564518 = 48.571 BTC [-] | [22:04] |
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Anduck | damn you mp | [22:09] |
Anduck | + they talk horribad english | [22:09] |
Anduck | !! | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | "or you can cover your debts with a loan from yourself by this EU third party whom mystifies stuff, which is state business again.. and any government is fraudulent." | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | !!! | [22:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6483 @ 0.00062 = 4.0195 BTC [+] | [22:10] |
Anduck | mircea_popescu: the first comment. i understood nothing | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | join the clubn | [22:11] |
Anduck | except the final part, that one i got | [22:11] |
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smickles | jurov: live.coinbr.com down? | [22:20] |
thestringpuller | yea. bitvps | [22:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.00062 = 6.572 BTC [+] | [22:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062 = 4.185 BTC [+] | [22:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9098 @ 0.00062 = 5.6408 BTC [+] | [22:36] |
smickles | thestringpuller: I'm chatting here via a bitvps server :o | [22:51] |
Namjies | Not all servers are alright. | [22:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062 = 4.464 BTC [+] | [23:00] |
mircea_popescu | This doesn't mean that it's doom and gloom. (though we've had plenty of that already). What it means is that I won't have time to maintain the miners, keep things running, or run the sites/infrastructure. | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | So this means either: | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | A) BTCSYN will be shut down, and we'll figure out a sane way to do that (liquidate and pay out to shareholders using this list) | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | B) Someone else will need to pick up the torch and continue operation (At the vote of shareholders). | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | C) Some other alternative I haven't thought of yet. | [23:08] |
mircea_popescu | IF we decide to liquidate (ie no other alternative is presented) be aware that the debt to enterpoint is larger than our current liquid assets, and the liquidatable value of those other 4 boards isn't very high with ASICs around the corner. Ideally another alternative will be possible. We'll see in the newyear. | [23:09] |
Namjies | Good grief... | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | i forgot the quotes again | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | IT IS NOT ME GOING OUT OF BUSINESS PEOPLE | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | I AM QUOTING. | [23:09] |
mircea_popescu | ty. | [23:09] |
Namjies | I usually understand that by the immediately following statement mentionning that X business is going down. | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | ya well i nearly created a panic yest | [23:11] |
EskimoBob | BTCSYN? | [23:11] |
Namjies | or the failure statement including things that you're not even in business in. | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | i don't remember who it was i was quoting, but a few people were spooked. | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | o, the bitcoin-market.eu it was. | [23:11] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [23:12] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 13.47429, Best ask: 13.56797, Bid-ask spread: 0.09368, Last trade: 13.47425, 24 hour volume: 29638.17165934, 24 hour low: 13.41999, 24 hour high: 13.64750, 24 hour vwap: 13.54771 | [23:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062 = 2.4713 BTC [+] | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker s.mpoe | [23:12] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00062 / 0.00062 / 0.00062 (3767064 shares, 2,335.58 BTC), 30day: 0.00049308 / 0.00054214 / 0.00063995 (104595129 shares, 56,705.52 BTC) | [23:12] |
Namjies | There wasn't much in that quote other than money was lost and the business was attempted to be kept afloat to recoup loss through fees or something like that. | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc (0.00062/0.00054214) ** 12 | [23:13] |
gribble | 5.00452492634 | [23:13] |
Namjies | For once that could potentially have been applied to MPEx | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | 500%. ftw. | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | Namjies ya, i wasn't too careful. | [23:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00062 = 2.046 BTC [+] | [23:13] |
thestringpuller | what if a transaction never gets put into a block? | [23:18] |
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FabianB_ | thestringpuller: make a new transaction with a fee | [23:19] |
thestringpuller | but when will the original transaction die? | [23:19] |
thestringpuller | when it is at 0% network prop? | [23:19] |
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Namjies | a transaction with an higher fee has priority over the same output with a lesser fee, I believe. | [23:21] |
FabianB_ | depends on the miner (or pool), different pools implement it differently i think | [23:23] |
mircea_popescu | a broadcast transaction pretty much never dies if i understand this correctly | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | unless some of its input is spent | [23:28] |
kakobrekla | ummm | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | afaik its discarded after a while | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | if it doesnt get confirmed | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | one would need to resend | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | seems to be right thing to do | [23:29] |
kakobrekla | or else we could build infinitive queue | [23:30] |
kakobrekla | Namjies https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131922.msg1414201;topicseen#msg1414201 | [23:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062 = 11.687 BTC [+] | [23:32] |
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thestringpuller | ;;tslb | [23:41] |
gribble | Time since last block: 1 minute and 38 seconds | [23:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5939 @ 0.00062 = 3.6822 BTC [+] | [23:47] |
Diablo-D3 | EskimoBob: how many dmc shares do you even have? | [23:48] |
Diablo-D3 | if its not a large fraction of the missing 300 some shares, why bother me over it | [23:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 96 @ 0.00349819 = 0.3358 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1700 @ 0.00348464 = 5.9239 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2250 @ 0.00346752 = 7.8019 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1500 @ 0.00346504 = 5.1976 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2500 @ 0.00345578 = 8.6395 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.00344559 = 3.6179 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5587 @ 0.00343861 = 19.2115 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4700 @ 0.00342636 = 16.1039 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00339841 = 2.039 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1041 @ 0.00337007 = 3.5082 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7495 @ 0.00190012 = 14.2414 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 208020 @ 0.00190011 = 395.2609 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 506 @ 0.00190007 = 0.9614 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.00190001 = 9.5001 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 507115 @ 0.0018 = 912.807 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995840 @ 0.0014 = 1394.176 BTC [-] | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | o.o | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | no fucking way. | [23:50] |
Namjies | FUCK | [23:50] |
Namjies | I should have had a bid in! | [23:50] |
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Namjies | Why didn't I have more BTC available for this! | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker s.dice | [23:51] |
Namjies | I wanted to have bids in... | [23:51] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0014 / 0.00161337 / 0.0036 (1753279 shares, 2,828.70 BTC), 30day: 0.0014 / 0.00308387 / 0.0037 (9053859 shares, 27,921.00 BTC) | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | breathtaking. -50% 1day avg | [23:51] |
kakobrekla | i took the bid out. | [23:53] |
kakobrekla | ;> | [23:53] |
kakobrekla | i win! | [23:53] |
thestringpuller | haha | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | lol? | [23:53] |
Namjies | Which one? | [23:53] |
thestringpuller | who offloaded | [23:53] |
thestringpuller | and why? | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | good q. | [23:54] |
smickles | whoever got that 1394btc worth at .0014 should be happy | [23:54] |
smickles | come dividend day | [23:54] |
kakobrekla | i had a bid at 18 for a while | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | smickles ya srsly. | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | what's it projected to pay anymore ? | [23:55] |
smickles | ;;calc (30000-16000)/100000000 | [23:56] |
gribble | 0.00014 | [23:56] |
smickles | a 100% dividend | [23:56] |
smickles | *monthly | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | no fuycking way ?! | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | 10% man. | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | it's 0.0014 | [23:57] |
Anduck | wat | [23:57] |
EskimoBob | smickles: next div day will not be as nice as those so far | [23:57] |
Anduck | LOL | [23:57] |
Anduck | did S.DICE just go down like hell | [23:58] |
Anduck | xD | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | EskimoBob next div day its projected to pay as much as TOTAL so far. | [23:58] |
Anduck | my luck indeed. | [23:58] |
EskimoBob | do the math. There will me more shares outstanding to share the income | [23:58] |
smickles | it should pop back up soon tho | [23:58] |
smickles | I see no fundamental difference b/t now and earlier | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | no there won't lol. | [23:58] |
Namjies | EskimoBob, on MPEx, all shares even non-outstanding get dividends. | [23:59] |
EskimoBob | mircea_popescu: are you telling me, that they can not sell any shares from III ? | [23:59] |
mircea_popescu | it's always been divided to 100 mn | [23:59] |
EskimoBob | WHAT Namjies! | [23:59] |
Namjies | So no more shares to split. Beside, each share represent 100 000 000th of SatoshiDice income. | [23:59] |
EskimoBob | are you serious? | [23:59] |
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