Forum logs for 20 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [05:00]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [05:00]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 15:58:37 2012 [05:00]
mircea_popescu i guess everyone has already seen http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE ? [05:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4979 @ 0.00043162 = 2.149 BTC [-] [05:23]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you are alive [05:35]
mircea_popescu yea ? [05:35]
thestringpuller you and smickles have been very helpful [05:36]
thestringpuller for that: thank you [05:36]
mircea_popescu hey, yw. [05:37]
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mircea_popescu what did that smickles character do this time! [05:37]
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thestringpuller he let me bounce my ideas off of him [05:38]
thestringpuller advice is worth a lot [05:38]
mircea_popescu hehe cool! [05:39]
thestringpuller i may be able to bring the money gram prices to negligible [05:39]
thestringpuller i read more about free models after talking with you [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26414 @ 0.00043162 = 11.4008 BTC [-] [05:49]
mircea_popescu that's always good then! [05:50]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: so ultimately i came to the conclusion maybe personalized liiquidation solutions would be more affordable for both parties. one peronalized solution would be a bill pay service for rg [06:13]
mircea_popescu does this scale ? [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0004338 = 5.4225 BTC [+] [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31300 @ 0.00043381 = 13.5783 BTC [+] [06:14]
thestringpuller yea like bitpay but its customized i suppose [06:14]
thestringpuller not so much payment as liquidation [06:15]
noagendamarket we need a plugin for quicken or mint.com [06:15]
thestringpuller i can do mint [06:15]
mircea_popescu actually a get-btc straight from mint would be great. [06:16]
noagendamarket need to track the prices at the time you use the coins ,capital gains tax etc [06:18]
noagendamarket gives me a headache to think about lol [06:19]
mircea_popescu most jurisdiction have sane tax laws [06:19]
mircea_popescu (as in, taxable when realised) [06:19]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.86438937 = 864.3894 BTC [+] [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 920 @ 0.76062356 = 699.7737 BTC [+] [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 880 @ 0.65720131 = 578.3372 BTC [-] [06:27]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 740 @ 0.55444696 = 410.2908 BTC [+] [06:27]
thestringpuller alot of puts... [06:32]
thestringpuller noagendamarket: im.actually.working on that for personal.use [06:33]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [06:33]
noagendamarket nice [06:33]
thestringpuller not mint though [06:33]
thestringpuller just using terminal [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 100 @ 0.00300376 = 0.3004 BTC [-] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.0033009 = 0.9903 BTC [+] [06:44]
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Chaaang-Noi http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=DRt78Vne [06:51]
Chaaang-Noi if not seen [06:51]
copumpkin oh [06:54]
copumpkin european date order [06:54]
copumpkin was confused there for a bit :) [06:54]
Chaaang-Noi :) [06:57]
Chaaang-Noi btw i did not leak this, its public [06:57]
BTC-Mining It really looks like Nefario is chickening out of legal responsibility, trying to make everything disappear. [06:59]
BTC-Mining I only saw tidbits quoted before. [06:59]
Chaaang-Noi yeah [06:59]
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Chaaang-Noi i dont think anyone is after him [06:59]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: it is [06:59]
Chaaang-Noi esp since he did not collect aml stuff after all [06:59]
Diablo-D3 I dunno, at least I bought back half the dmc shares [06:59]
Diablo-D3 so theres that [06:59]
Chaaang-Noi he wants to pretend that someone is forcing him to do something but i dont think that is the case [07:00]
noagendamarket we are so screwed [07:00]
Chaaang-Noi well i kinda hope the govt does not go after nefario [07:00]
Chaaang-Noi im only 50% done as the log is loooong but it just looks like nefario wants to cover his ass [07:01]
Chaaang-Noi it also looks like more than 50% support him [07:01]
Diablo-D3 yeah [07:02]
Diablo-D3 I just [07:02]
Diablo-D3 dont get it =/ [07:02]
noagendamarket It doesnt make any sense to me :/ [07:02]
noagendamarket Maybe he just cant be bothered anymore [07:03]
noagendamarket lol [07:03]
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Chaaang-Noi i think he thinks that if he shuts this down nothing bad will happen to him [07:05]
Chaaang-Noi and if he keeps going he risks one day getting fucked hard by a lot of people [07:05]
Chaaang-Noi lot of govt people [07:06]
Chaaang-Noi i do understand why he is shutting it down [07:06]
Chaaang-Noi but he started this out being very anon and then changed it into what it is today in 3 versions [07:06]
Chaaang-Noi he really fucked up, he did this to himself [07:06]
Chaaang-Noi despite people telling him over and over not to [07:07]
noagendamarket we didnt buy shares in Nefario we bought them in bitcoinglobal. [07:07]
Chaaang-Noi more than 50% of bitcoin global voted to shut down GLBSE [07:07]
Chaaang-Noi are you one of the shareholders noagenda? [07:08]
noagendamarket there was npo point voting though [07:08]
Chaaang-Noi but there was a vote [07:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00043381 = 3.1668 BTC [+] [07:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16061 @ 0.00043401 = 6.9706 BTC [+] [07:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20839 @ 0.00043404 = 9.045 BTC [+] [07:10]
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BTC-Mining He refused to say anything and insists that there won't be any problems? [07:10]
BTC-Mining Wouldn't be surprised if he was ordered to shut it down but it was too minor for them to sanction Nefario more than that. [07:11]
Diablo-D3 https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/190343_440022752702093_1392987282_n.jpg [07:12]
BTC-Mining Maybe an order to close the website and interdiction to do anything related to securities for some years. [07:12]
BTC-Mining Or he's just scared. [07:12]
Chaang-Noi i think he just got scared [07:12]
BTC-Mining Chaang-Noi, where was that link? [07:12]
Chaang-Noi if he really had some sort of thing with the govt aginst me he would not have sent me back my BTC like a week after he delisted me without my AML stuff [07:13]
Chaang-Noi was on the forum BTC-Mining from christo i think [07:13]
noagendamarket hes probably less scared of bitcoiners than the government :P [07:13]
noagendamarket unlike keyboard warriors the government can really fuck your shit up [07:14]
Chaang-Noi yeah why did he send me back BTC if he had the govt involved? [07:14]
BTC-Mining Mormons usually endorse republicans? [07:14]
Azelphur you guys know he did an interview and explained all this right? [07:18]
noagendamarket he explained shit [07:19]
noagendamarket and hes operating in bad faith [07:20]
Azelphur how else exactly would he shut down cleanly? [07:20]
Chaang-Noi send double payments? [07:21]
noagendamarket he probably thinks he did [07:21]
noagendamarket its all in his imaginatuion [07:21]
Azelphur he actually did [07:22]
Azelphur I know someone who got double paid lol [07:22]
noagendamarket the easy way to do it is just let people withdraw using their account on site [07:22]
Azelphur yea, would have probably been easier. [07:22]
noagendamarket then there is the way a retard would do it [07:22]
noagendamarket never go full retard [07:22]
noagendamarket Im done covering for nefario and he can dig himself out of his own mess. [07:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.00043204 = 11.8379 BTC [-] [07:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26297 @ 0.00043404 = 11.4139 BTC [+] [07:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00043493 = 0.9321 BTC [+] [07:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9534 @ 0.00043162 = 4.1151 BTC [-] [08:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29012 @ 0.00043145 = 12.5172 BTC [-] [08:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12954 @ 0.00043115 = 5.5851 BTC [-] [08:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24099 @ 0.00043115 = 10.3903 BTC [-] [08:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4701 @ 0.0004306 = 2.0243 BTC [-] [08:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19748 @ 0.00043165 = 8.5242 BTC [+] [08:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37507 @ 0.0004306 = 16.1505 BTC [-] [08:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46557 @ 0.00043493 = 20.249 BTC [+] [09:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.00043601 = 1.4894 BTC [+] [09:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3598 @ 0.0004368 = 1.5716 BTC [+] [09:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2029 @ 0.00043682 = 0.8863 BTC [+] [09:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52300 @ 0.00043447 = 22.7228 BTC [-] [09:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.0004306 = 0.732 BTC [-] [09:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00043215 = 1.0372 BTC [+] [10:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00043215 = 8.2109 BTC [+] [10:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00043215 = 5.4883 BTC [+] [11:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10962 @ 0.00043215 = 4.7372 BTC [+] [11:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6248 @ 0.00043272 = 2.7036 BTC [+] [11:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26152 @ 0.00043272 = 11.3165 BTC [+] [12:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25648 @ 0.00043333 = 11.114 BTC [+] [12:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9738 @ 0.00043215 = 4.2083 BTC [-] [12:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25562 @ 0.00043167 = 11.0343 BTC [-] [12:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00043333 = 8.6666 BTC [+] [13:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 338 @ 0.00043167 = 0.1459 BTC [-] [13:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26062 @ 0.00043133 = 11.2413 BTC [-] [13:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13438 @ 0.00043133 = 5.7962 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28961 @ 0.00043066 = 12.4723 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4393 @ 0.0004306 = 1.8916 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4958 @ 0.00043057 = 2.1348 BTC [-] [14:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15042 @ 0.00043057 = 6.4766 BTC [-] [14:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00043036 = 3.3998 BTC [-] [14:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.0004303 = 3.7436 BTC [-] [14:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6660 @ 0.00043024 = 2.8654 BTC [-] [14:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.00043333 = 2.2533 BTC [+] [14:53]
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EskimoBob did I miss anything interesting? [15:16]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 731 @ 0.10257112 = 74.9795 BTC [-] [15:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28224 @ 0.00043047 = 12.1496 BTC [-] [15:42]
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kakobrekla http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102 [15:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5732 @ 0.00043134 = 2.4724 BTC [+] [16:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7368 @ 0.00043134 = 3.1781 BTC [+] [16:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16732 @ 0.0004312 = 7.2148 BTC [-] [16:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 9 @ 0.10121872 = 0.911 BTC [-] [17:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6944 @ 0.0004312 = 2.9943 BTC [-] [17:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40556 @ 0.00043065 = 17.4654 BTC [-] [17:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24316 @ 0.00043016 = 10.4598 BTC [-] [17:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18272 @ 0.00043288 = 7.9096 BTC [+] [18:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1469 @ 0.00043333 = 0.6366 BTC [+] [19:40]
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Chaaang-Noi in like a day this is the only post here http://thatsmathematics.com/blog/archives/102 [19:53]
Chaaang-Noi its a good post but no one even responded [19:53]
Chaaang-Noi this is a dead or soon to be dead chan [19:53]
pigeons no you're just on ignore ;) [19:54]
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Chaaang-Noi lol ;) [20:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189 @ 0.00042997 = 0.0813 BTC [-] [20:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34211 @ 0.00042963 = 14.6981 BTC [-] [20:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32482 @ 0.00043335 = 14.0761 BTC [+] [20:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11218 @ 0.00043376 = 4.8659 BTC [+] [20:56]
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thestringpuller anyone alive out there? [21:04]
BTC-Mining I am [21:04]
thestringpuller I'm attempting to launch a service tonight [21:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24000 @ 0.00043192 = 10.3661 BTC [-] [21:21]
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FabianB_ thestringpuller: what kind of? [21:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15789 @ 0.00042963 = 6.7834 BTC [-] [21:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22111 @ 0.00042951 = 9.4969 BTC [-] [21:46]
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thestringpuller FabianB_: I'm launching a liquidation service. The main product is turning bitcoins into cash via moneygram within 1 hour [22:02]
thestringpuller the side product is personalized liquidity solutions for people who need to pay expenses in bitcoin but don't want to deal with fiat at all [22:02]
thestringpuller hopefully rg will be my first client for that latter [22:03]
jurov so.i can't discuss mpex on btctalk anymore.. there's always somebody who says it's child porn site [22:09]
thestringpuller dude btctalk is fucking annoying [22:10]
thestringpuller there is no child porn on that site [22:10]
thestringpuller just a /b/ like board where girls post nudie pics [22:10]
thestringpuller which isn't even really porn [22:10]
thestringpuller bageezus [22:10]
thestringpuller no one complains about fucking reddit.com/r/gonewild [22:10]
jurov i know. but btctalk is practically lost cause now. [22:11]
thestringpuller le sigh [22:11]
thestringpuller too many trolls [22:11]
thestringpuller everything encounters the eternal september it seems [22:12]
thestringpuller #bitcoin-assets is the last bastion of hope [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00043192 = 4.6647 BTC [+] [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11882 @ 0.00043376 = 5.1539 BTC [+] [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6118 @ 0.00043403 = 2.6554 BTC [+] [22:12]
thestringpuller jurov: mircea_popescu loved the live ticker [22:12]
jurov yes, he helped me a bit with it [22:13]
thestringpuller well jurov I may end up using coinbr extensively if this service takes off to hedge fees [22:14]
thestringpuller from moneygram buttfucking me on the price [22:14]
jurov thx, i just got idea that kakobrekla's clients may need to hedge BTCUSD too [22:23]
jurov we'll se when he's around [22:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16006 @ 0.00043403 = 6.9471 BTC [+] [22:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.00043154 = 0.8199 BTC [-] [23:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00043059 = 8.6979 BTC [-] [23:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00043059 = 6.0283 BTC [-] [23:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21376 @ 0.00043403 = 9.2778 BTC [+] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2924 @ 0.00043464 = 1.2709 BTC [+] [23:55]
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