Forum logs for 20 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
thestringpuller i'm gong to make a bitcoin money laundering service called bitlaundry [00:01]
thestringpuller "it all comes out in the wash" will be our motto [00:01]
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mircea_popescu there;'s a ton of those already. [00:03]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is there any point in buying options if there isn't a big swing [00:03]
thestringpuller for instance if you buy puts as insurance to doing business with btc [00:03]
mircea_popescu if you buy options you implicitly bet on a move. [00:03]
mircea_popescu if you sell options you implicitly bet on calm [00:03]
thestringpuller so if you're selling some product Y for bitcoins, and you expect the price to drop, you buy puts [00:04]
thestringpuller so what if you expect the price to not move much you sell an option? [00:04]
thestringpuller did I understand you correctly? [00:05]
mircea_popescu if you expect the price to go up significantly, you buy a call. [00:06]
mircea_popescu if you expect the price to go down significantly, you buy a put. [00:06]
mircea_popescu if you expect the price to NOT drop significantly you sell a put [00:06]
mircea_popescu if you expect the price to NOT go up significantly you sell a call. [00:06]
thestringpuller lots of options (pun intended) [00:08]
mircea_popescu lol [00:08]
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thestringpuller thanks for explaining mircea_popescu, i feel as though I'm one of the ignorant kids sometimes [00:13]
mircea_popescu eh no big deal [00:13]
thestringpuller un blod de mircea_popescu is being used as a reference for my research paper [00:14]
mircea_popescu haha cool. [00:14]
thestringpuller blog* [00:15]
jurov coinbr will have "options advisor" someday [00:15]
jurov right after the "navigating the waters of btc securities safely" motto right below the mermaid [00:15]
thestringpuller who drew the mermaid? [00:16]
mircea_popescu im not even sure. was a contest [00:16]
jurov thebigheart, originally for mpex [00:16]
jurov as everyone knows, sirens are the symbol of safe navigation :P [00:17]
mircea_popescu :p [00:18]
mircea_popescu also tits. [00:18]
jurov yea, have hard time to decide between tits and boobs [00:18]
mircea_popescu boobits [00:19]
thestringpuller aapl just won't stop plummeting [00:21]
thestringpuller too big to fail! [00:21]
mircea_popescu lol [00:21]
mircea_popescu someone was trying to get ppl to buy it in btc [00:21]
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mircea_popescu i was thinking, what a genius move. buy aapl in btc, six months later aapl is -40% in usd, the usd is -50% in btc... you've made a great investment [00:22]
thestringpuller or just do puts on aapl right as they announced the iphone 5 [00:23]
thestringpuller which was my general advice to people I was investing for [00:23]
thestringpuller who all got fucking rich [00:23]
thestringpuller i got a measely .2% because i'm nice :P [00:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39349 @ 0.0005024 = 19.7689 BTC [+] [00:23]
mircea_popescu lol mpex charges .2% [00:24]
thestringpuller you should charge more :P [00:25]
mircea_popescu nah [00:25]
thestringpuller you already charge an illustrious membership fee [00:26]
thestringpuller XD [00:26]
mircea_popescu lol [00:27]
thestringpuller ;;halfreward [00:28]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Thu Nov 29 04:58:28 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 week, 2 days, 6 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds. [00:28]
thestringpuller the rewardoclypse is among us. [00:29]
jurov happy halving day [00:29]
mircea_popescu it won't be long now. [00:29]
mircea_popescu esp if basic actually delivers :D [00:29]
jurov i suspect mpex will celebrate it by finally raising the fee to 50btc [00:29]
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thestringpuller I think all asic manufacturers are lying [00:29]
thestringpuller 50btc fee [00:29]
thestringpuller I should get and account now :( [00:30]
thestringpuller or perhaps a christmas special? [00:30]
thestringpuller :) [00:30]
thestringpuller buy 1 account get 1 free [00:30]
thestringpuller lol jk jk [00:30]
kakobrekla just use coinbr [00:30]
thestringpuller but but [00:31]
mircea_popescu on the long term you're better of buying an acct now than later [00:31]
mircea_popescu this was true all through [00:31]
thestringpuller extortion combined with laziness huh? [00:31]
jurov no, it's just ponzi, ya know [00:32]
mircea_popescu what can i tell you. there's no love for the idle. [00:32]
thestringpuller next time I here ponzi [00:32]
thestringpuller I'm slap someone back to 1920 [00:32]
mircea_popescu all hail teh industrious [00:32]
thestringpuller industrialists sometimes fall [00:32]
thestringpuller if i was an industrialist I would be idle during the day and batman at night [00:32]
dub I here ponzi? or Here I ponzi [00:33]
thestringpuller hear* :) [00:33]
thestringpuller Here I am Charles Ponzi [00:33]
thestringpuller send me money so I can send overpriced stamps to my family back in europe [00:34]
thestringpuller tons of money in it [00:34]
thestringpuller invest early [00:34]
mircea_popescu https://btct.co/ [00:36]
mircea_popescu o look another one [00:36]
dub wtf is this .co I keep seeing [00:36]
dub and why does its 'nic' have invalid ssl cert [00:37]
dub get off my internet [00:37]
thestringpuller LTC MINING [00:37]
thestringpuller hahahahaha [00:37]
jurov Every asset issuer receives a daily email showing who is holding their assets. This allows them to move their virtual operation off the site to anywhere else they might choose. [00:38]
mircea_popescu i said nothing. [00:39]
pigeons really depends on your definition of invalid. [00:39]
jurov The use of this site is for educational and entertainment purposes only. [00:39]
jurov ^^^they say it themselves [00:39]
thestringpuller I don't think there is a point in it. [00:39]
thestringpuller They have no options [00:39]
thestringpuller or any kind of useful contracts [00:40]
pigeons i mean regarding dub. the ssl cartels and browser makers' definition of valid isn't the only valid one [00:40]
Namjies Well, anyone wishing to sell F.GIGA.ETF before they get delisted at the end of December? [00:41]
mircea_popescu http://blockchain.info/ so pretty much all that happens in btc is s.dice [00:42]
mircea_popescu pigeons why use their certs if you don't agree with their definitinos ? [00:42]
Namjies For encryption? [00:43]
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Namjies of communication... [00:43]
pigeons i don't use their certs for issuer trust [00:43]
thestringpuller ;;google subterfuge [00:43]
gribble Subterfuge - Merriam-Webster Online: ; subterfuge - definition of subterfuge by the Free Online Dictionary ...: ; Subterfuge | Define Subterfuge at Dictionary.com: [00:43]
thestringpuller ;;lucky subterfuge [00:43]
gribble http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subterfuge [00:43]
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mircea_popescu pigeons was the impersonal you lol. [00:44]
mircea_popescu just like bitcoin wiki STUPIDLY is on https [00:44]
mircea_popescu and then STUPIDLY uses a broken cert. [00:44]
mircea_popescu plenty of people can't see it. [00:44]
pigeons its not broken [00:44]
mircea_popescu it is. [00:44]
pigeons its not, it works fine [00:44]
Namjies You have to use the same thing, except browsers will warn users about your self-issued certificate. [00:44]
mircea_popescu listen to me. today some lawyer guy i work with sometimes asked me a bunch of q's about bitcoin [00:45]
mircea_popescu i went to the wiki in the browser and firefox popped the warning [00:45]
mircea_popescu i could see him cringe. [00:45]
mircea_popescu why the fuck does a wiki even need https ? [00:45]
Luceo It doesn't [00:45]
mircea_popescu right. [00:45]
Namjies Firefox doesn't pop me the warning... [00:45]
Luceo But if its going to use it, why not get a StartSSL cert or PositiveSSL for $10? [00:46]
pigeons well for one cause you login to edit, so your credentials can be stolen, for another for privacy [00:46]
mircea_popescu Namjies i agree, in plenty of browsers it works fine. but why cut out a fraction ? [00:46]
Namjies Verified by StartCom Ltd. [00:46]
Luceo I mean fuck, I'll donate the $10 [00:46]
mircea_popescu pigeons come on, privacy. what's private ? it's a wiki. [00:46]
Luceo And they can get a Comodo cert [00:46]
Luceo Login details are private [00:46]
mircea_popescu ya ok. [00:46]
dub I dont want my employer reading my wiki vandalisation [00:46]
pigeons comodo certs are broken [00:46]
mircea_popescu people will get bored with hacking linode and will start hacking wiki accts. [00:47]
mircea_popescu cause those are REAL valuable. [00:47]
pigeons if you trust the fingerprint of the cert its not broken. i dont trust any comodo certs [00:47]
pigeons only things you think should be private should be private? [00:47]
Luceo Comodo certs are fine [00:47]
mircea_popescu pigeons should everything be encrypted just because it can ? [00:48]
Luceo They work in all major browsers and all major mobile browsers [00:48]
Namjies so are self-issued certificates... [00:48]
Luceo I'm in favor of https where possible [00:48]
mircea_popescu why ? [00:48]
mircea_popescu this is like being in favour of driving wherever possible. [00:48]
Luceo Just dont understand not spending $10 on a cert [00:48]
pigeons mircea_popescu: it is a valid stance. why cant they offer ssl? why cant people use it? [00:48]
dub because security derp [00:48]
mircea_popescu NO. drive wherever NEEDED! [00:48]
pigeons i dont understand spending anything on a fucking comodo cert [00:48]
Luceo OK, get a geotrust one then... [00:49]
pigeons any cartel cert [00:49]
Namjies Browsers should not pop such a warning for self-issued certificates. Really sends the wrong message to users. [00:49]
Luceo It's irrelevant which issuer you use as long as they're a valid root CA [00:49]
pigeons what is valid? [00:49]
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pigeons I decide which CAs are valid [00:49]
Luceo Whatever the browser moguls are supporting right now [00:49]
Luceo Comodo [00:49]
Luceo Geotrust [00:49]
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Luceo Disclosure: I'm a Comodo reseller :P [00:50]
pigeons and i decide none of them are. i trust individual fingerprints. yes there are challenges to that, but we're working on them. al ot better already than using networks solutions or comodo [00:50]
pigeons or geotrust [00:50]
dub all this is ireelevant anyway [00:50]
dub shoot the system monkey that got it wrong, load another from spares [00:50]
Luceo Well, I think the wiki is better off accomodating the majority of its users than a few fringes who have a personal issue with CAs :/ [00:50]
pigeons well i think the wiki shouldt cater to the few fringes who have an issue with centralized currency [00:51]
Luceo If you can show that most of those people have an issue with root CAs I'll be happy to defer [00:52]
mircea_popescu jesus i didn't realise pigeons had such strong feelings on the subject [00:52]
pigeons 51% attack? [00:52]
mircea_popescu what difference does it make !? it's just a wiki ;/ [00:52]
jurov on frontpage there's software on download, better download it over ssl [00:53]
jurov although it's rather weak argument [00:53]
jurov one should check checksum instead [00:53]
mircea_popescu wikipedia works over http [00:53]
mircea_popescu afaik the acct hacking isn't a big deal. does anyone know ? [00:54]
pigeons wikipedia works over http and https. so does bitcoin wiki. [00:54]
mircea_popescu no. http redirects to https. [00:54]
pigeons oh [00:54]
dub why is it on .it? [00:55]
Namjies Also, that [00:55]
mircea_popescu prolly someone happened to have that domain. [00:55]
pigeons have you seen the woikipedia attack where people figure out what you are looking at by some sort of checksum of the returned encrypted page based on comparing it to the db dumps? [00:55]
dub because some assclown like gengix set it up probably [00:55]
dub end all further discussion of why it may or may not be retarded [00:56]
Luceo .it is less likely to be confiscated I expect [00:56]
thestringpuller jurov: can you make cool widgets? [00:56]
thestringpuller and how much do you charge? [00:56]
jurov whois says "Christoph Glitsch" [00:56]
pigeons "Christoph Glitsch" owns about11,430 other domains [00:58]
Namjies ..... [00:59]
Namjies That's a lot of domains [00:59]
pigeons hmm he has hurrdurr.it [01:00]
Namjies .... [01:01]
Namjies it somehow troubles me [01:01]
mircea_popescu why would they confiscate the btc wiki ;/ [01:02]
pigeons heh [01:02]
Luceo I dunno, it was probbaly set up during last year when all the shit was going down about BTC being investigated because of SR [01:04]
Luceo A lot of people were paranoid last year [01:04]
mircea_popescu but i fail to see the argument. the italians are way in the top of retarded [01:04]
pigeons no it was ther ebefore last year [01:04]
mircea_popescu iirc it was started 2010 [01:04]
Luceo They're also way in the top of not giving a shit about the Internet :P [01:04]
mircea_popescu or work [01:05]
mircea_popescu or study [01:05]
mircea_popescu or in general anything. [01:05]
pigeons i bet it has more to do with christoph glitch will register you a domain and keep your identity private, so long as you use an .it and yeah that doesnt explain why not wiki.bitcoin.org but maybe some people didnt get along [01:07]
mircea_popescu http://wiki.bitcoin.org would be ideal [01:09]
mircea_popescu with optional https [01:09]
smickles < mircea_popescu> but i fail to see the argument. the italians are way in the top of retarded << remember the google employees going to jail b/c some kid posted a vid on youtube of a mentally ill kid being bullied? [01:09]
mircea_popescu vaguely [01:10]
mircea_popescu i also remember some scientists on trial cause they didn' predict an earthquake [01:10]
smickles they do give a shit about the internet sometimes then [01:10]
mircea_popescu italy is really like a sort of independent Louisiana. [01:10]
smickles oh, lol, yeah, i'd forgotten the earthquake thing [01:10]
mircea_popescu so retarded it boggles. [01:10]
pigeons louisiana ain't so bad. mississippi now... [01:11]
smickles biloxi/gulfport is kinda nice tho [01:11]
thestringpuller morgan freeman is from mississipi [01:11]
thestringpuller with mississipi we wouldn't have no morgan freeman [01:12]
smickles just avoid the jefferson davis tourist trap [01:12]
pigeons morgan freeman wouldnt be so cool if he wasn' ttrying to get away from shitty mississippi [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16827 @ 0.0005024 = 8.4539 BTC [+] [01:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5373 @ 0.00050249 = 2.6999 BTC [+] [01:13]
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smickles Azelphur: you bitch [01:14]
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Azelphur smickles: I bitch [01:14]
Azelphur what do [01:14]
smickles i can install steam on my compy, and it shows it working, but a message pops up and says i'm not part of the beta [01:14]
smickles then closes it [01:14]
Azelphur smickles: allow me to educate you [01:14]
Azelphur smickles: in terminal, steam steam://install/440 [01:14]
Azelphur you are now a 1337 h4x0r [01:14]
smickles no fuckin way, just use the game id? [01:15]
Azelphur yup [01:15]
Azelphur it's only been that you could install tf2 for a few minutes now [01:15]
Azelphur so that may be a bug and revoked [01:15]
Azelphur but you could always get into the beta client itself (just not install steam) since the beginning [01:15]
smickles hmm, not workin [01:15]
Azelphur I've been in the official beta since the beginning near enough [01:15]
Namjies Did you know you can unlock or relock any steam achievement too? [01:16]
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Azelphur you need to run that with steam closed [01:16]
pigeons yeah thats the normal message if you're not in the beta [01:16]
Namjies Game not required. [01:16]
Azelphur Namjies: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Azelphur/stats/TF2 nope *sarcasm* :P [01:16]
smickles oh [01:16]
smickles it's steam steam://install/440 [01:16]
Azelphur smickles: yep :) [01:16]
Namjies You played for almost 7 decades on EACH class. Interesting. [01:18]
thestringpuller 7 decades? [01:19]
Namjies 7 decades / class [01:19]
Namjies 596523.2 hours of play time on each class. [01:19]
Namjies look at Azelphur's stats [01:20]
Azelphur XD [01:20]
smickles woah steam steam://open/games [01:20]
smickles there's moar! [01:20]
Azelphur MOAR! [01:20]
Azelphur yep :P [01:20]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: does s.mpoe come with any voting rights? [01:22]
Namjies look at terms? [01:23]
pigeons troll [01:23]
Namjies I believe it does not [01:23]
mircea_popescu nope. [01:24]
smickles even if it did, mp isn't allowed to release more than 50% [01:25]
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mircea_popescu well moreover nobody on mpex can sell more than 50% exactly because shares can't vote. [01:26]
mircea_popescu none of that glbse shit with people running companies where they sold 10k shares and have 100 of their own [01:26]
mircea_popescu usually selfgifted too [01:26]
thestringpuller voting rights are awesome though [01:29]
thestringpuller it's how you hostile take over a company [01:29]
jurov like, mircea is to allow hostile takeover? hahaha [01:30]
thestringpuller well you can still give stock voting rights [01:31]
pigeons mircea says hostyle, doggystyle, any style will do [01:31]
thestringpuller and maintain control [01:31]
thestringpuller facebook stock is that way [01:31]
thestringpuller the stock zuckerberg owns, has like 2-3x the votes as a normal stock bought on the market [01:31]
jurov well, if you so crave shares with voting rights, i can privately issue some for coinbr :P [01:33]
thestringpuller I secretly want to find a millionaire and buy all the MPOE stock and vote mircea out [01:34]
thestringpuller HOSTILE TAKE OVER [01:34]
thestringpuller without guns [01:34]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller so how do you do a hostile takeover ? [01:34]
mircea_popescu like it went with nefario ? [01:34]
midnightmagic outstanding stock has to be 1) purchasable, and 2) outside of mircea's control to be sold, and 3) voting shares under some kind of structure. [01:35]
mircea_popescu but how do you enforce the vote ? [01:35]
midnightmagic I suspect since he has technical control of the market, even if the company were a company with proper voting shares, mircea could just physicall halt the sale. [01:36]
mircea_popescu the reason it's set up like this is exactly that i don't want to create this possibility where something's due but unenforceable. [01:36]
midnightmagic I mean who knows, maybe MPOE doesn't even have transferrable shares. [01:36]
thestringpuller make it so the bot decides [01:36]
mircea_popescu what do you mean ? [01:36]
thestringpuller say I start a company and list it on a reputable exchange [01:37]
mircea_popescu i meant to midnightmagic but go ahead [01:37]
midnightmagic thestringpuller: Like a real exchange? Like NYSE? [01:37]
thestringpuller midnightmagic: lol [01:37]
midnightmagic mircea_popescu: I literally have no idea at all how you've set up MPOE. As far as I've seen, it's just a sandbox on your webserver that's fun to play with. [01:38]
thestringpuller you should put up collateral, if your business is based on a website the bot controllig the exchange should have access to that site [01:38]
mircea_popescu honestly i think the nyse is a lot less real rthan mpex atm. all that bs free money, all those algo trades... [01:38]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic a well, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 you can read there [01:38]
midnightmagic Oh am I naming it incorrectly? Is it MPEX or MPOE? [01:38]
mircea_popescu MPOE = mircea popescu's options emporium (the old options trading page) [01:39]
mircea_popescu mpex = mircea popescu exchange [01:39]
mircea_popescu mpoe-pr = the harpy all the geeks want to nail. [01:39]
mircea_popescu gee whiz, i have my own glossary. i shall name it mpgloss! [01:39]
thestringpuller I'm going to trademark all these MP** and not license the trademark to you [01:40]
mircea_popescu i'll care. [01:41]
mod6 haha. [01:41]
mircea_popescu prolly get a kickback from the trademark office, you pay 1-2k to them, i change the name. [01:42]
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mircea_popescu cox.net ? is that where all the porn is ? [01:43]
mod6 haha. i used to have cox i think ... it was either that or Charter? out there in tucson [01:44]
mod6 looks like that is probably las vegas? [01:44]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49383.msg1345959#msg1345959 [01:44]
mircea_popescu this is pretty nasty. [01:44]
smickles cox in tucson [01:44]
mod6 :> [01:44]
mircea_popescu smickles sounds like a party college. [01:44]
smickles and thestringpuller, good luck getting even 4% of s.mpoe [01:45]
mircea_popescu - what do you do, are you an actress ? [01:45]
mircea_popescu - student [01:45]
mircea_popescu - o cool, where [01:45]
mircea_popescu - U of Cox in Tucson [01:45]
mod6 lol. UofA is a pretty good school actually.. the real party school is ASU [01:46]
mircea_popescu :p [01:47]
smickles My mom was vp of accounting at cox at one point in time [01:47]
smickles i'm sure ther's a joke in there [01:48]
mod6 ha [01:48]
smickles they moved her to marketing later on tho, i dunno why [01:48]
mod6 vircurex didn't ever allow exchange of buttcoins i see [01:48]
mod6 just about everything else though [01:48]
mircea_popescu titcoins [01:49]
mircea_popescu titcoins, hipcoins, calfcoins, we need all the coins! [01:49]
mod6 clitcoins [01:49]
mod6 there you go [01:50]
mircea_popescu clitcoins yeah [01:51]
mircea_popescu hoochcoins too [01:51]
mod6 oh hey, i finally watched the '65 version of Doctor Zhivago -- it was pretty great actualy [01:52]
mod6 *actually [01:52]
mircea_popescu cool [01:52]
mod6 I forgot how in older movies that many of the credits are in the beginning of the movie. [01:53]
thestringpuller Alfred Hitchcock! [01:54]
mod6 he was a dickwad [01:55]
thestringpuller What about Humphrey Bogart? [01:57]
mod6 *shrug* [01:58]
thestringpuller %6 [01:59]
mod6 now you got it :D [01:59]
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mod6 i read all these classic type books over the last four to five years -- i was talking with mircea about it a while ago [02:00]
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mod6 kinda lead me to watch the old 65 version of that movie. was worth the 3 hours, it did the novel justice... which of course is fantastic [02:01]
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mircea_popescu Dank Metal - Silver and gold for BTC @ Spot Price [02:02]
mircea_popescu is there anything that muppet hasn't done yet ? [02:02]
thestringpuller lol Dank Metal [02:08]
thestringpuller that would be a good album name [02:09]
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mircea_popescu kinda [02:14]
thestringpuller metal is socialist music [02:15]
thestringpuller because it comes from socialist countries [02:15]
mircea_popescu by this reasoning babies are female [02:15]
mircea_popescu cause they come out of women [02:15]
thestringpuller I was thinking like an murican for a minute [02:16]
Namjies Space Travel Guide: Did you know Muricans are naturally so round and fat you don't need any oil to cook them into fried meatballs? [02:35]
Namjies Ensuing abductions and missing people throughout America [02:35]
thestringpuller XD [02:35]
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Namjies Well sometimes keeping it stupid simple makes a lot of sense. [02:37]
Namjies I don't see much logical reasons "aliens" would do most of what some people claim. [02:38]
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thestringpuller Watch Invader Zim [02:43]
Namjies Well... it wouldn't make a lot of sense for such advanced species to do such things. [02:43]
Namjies Being advanced enough to visit us, they'd probably have zero interest in meddling with us or the Earth. [02:44]
Namjies But the nonsense spawned many great games tho. [02:44]
Namjies (and movies) [02:45]
jurov of course. like white men have zero interest in meeddling with indigenous rainforest tribes. [02:49]
jurov *meddling [02:49]
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Namjies No, I meant, if you're technologically advanced, you're probably going to be able to use solar power to constantly recycle the same matter before being able to travel efficiently between stars [02:51]
Namjies Which kinds of destroy the whole need to go exterminate indigenous races and take their planet [02:52]
Namjies There's enough brute resources (basic elements) everywhere not to care about Earth. [02:53]
Namjies There's even that movie where they abduct people and take their brains out to place them into biounits to serve as processors. How pretentious is that of us? They need our brains! [02:54]
jurov i hope so. but still, while like, 99,99% of us can go by without mahogany wood or ivory [02:54]
jurov the few who do not, cause some havoc [02:55]
dub not to mention tiger penis [02:55]
Namjies Oh right... What did Futurama tell us? Ah yes, human trunks are excellent aphrodisiacs. [02:56]
thestringpuller tiger blood [02:56]
jurov that's not necessary [02:57]
Namjies If they're still going after such senseless things, I'll call out how a miserable failure their society is before harvesting me. [02:58]
jurov an equivalent of donald trump who bulldozed unique nature reservation on scotland [02:58]
jurov for his golf course [02:58]
jurov would suffice [02:58]
Namjies Why would aliens do such things specifically on Earth? [02:58]
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jurov why would trump build his cours especifically there? just because [02:59]
Namjies They could basically produce/multiply anything anywhere in outerspace. [02:59]
dub I think this might be the most retarded conversation ever [02:59]
Namjies But trump had to put it somewhere on Earth because it's not feasible to just put things in space. [02:59]
Namjies No need to harvest humans or mine Earth or take the space on Earth. [03:00]
Namjies dub: yes, very much. [03:01]
jurov usually they make golf courses on wasteland cause they need lots of chemicals to upkeep, he did not have to put it there [03:01]
dub its the same reason china extincts an animal because they think eating its penis has medicinal benefits when it doesnt [03:03]
Namjies Maybe the place was close and just nice looking... [03:05]
jurov Yes. Earth is quite a nice looking place, too [03:06]
dub with any luck aliens will come here and harvest both china and donald trump [03:06]
jurov or become addicted to a maple syrup, did you read that? [03:07]
dub that aliens are addicted to maple syrup? [03:07]
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jurov (John Ringo's Live Free or Die book) [03:08]
Namjies If they get addicted to maple syrup they can probably just copy it indefinitly at home... [03:09]
Namjies Instead of taking the few that's available on Earth [03:09]
Namjies Open harvesting of the maple trees is probably super inneficient too... [03:10]
jurov that probably falls into that mahogany/ivory argument, too. we do have decent synthetic replacements,. [03:11]
Namjies I meant they can probably make a 100% identic replica with an error of less than 1 atom. [03:24]
dub now you're just being silly [03:34]
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smickles Azelphur: did you have to update your drivers or anything like that? [03:49]
Azelphur yep [03:50]
smickles Azelphur: which way did you have to do it? [03:51]
Azelphur I did it with jockey like it tells me to :P [03:51]
smickles to teh 'post-release' update? [03:51]
Azelphur nvidia 310 [03:51]
smickles oh you, i have amd [03:52]
Azelphur ah [03:52]
Azelphur smickles: I actually had it running on my AMD netbook on the open source drivers [03:53]
Azelphur if you have a decent card, it may well run at a decent fps using open [03:53]
smickles oh lol, my install doesn't give me the open option /me just noticed [03:54]
* smickles is a bad, bad linux user [03:55]
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smickles an update http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/#update_19nov12 [04:14]
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dub http://img.giftube.name/media/photos/4f421ed451c64/4f421ed451c64.gif [04:19]
dub smickles: that is an unbelievably dull drama [04:21]
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dub doyouevenlift84 should certainly remain banned [04:22]
smickles dub: heh, that giftube link is a 'reliable source' [04:24]
smickles oh, and it's wikipedia, i don't expect the drama to be much better than that [04:25]
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mircea_popescu dub retarded women. [04:50]
mircea_popescu what sort of behaviour is that! [04:50]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1346514#msg1346514 << oi! anyone lend any credence to all that ?! [05:05]
dub they're loving it [05:14]
mircea_popescu dub they're loving it like 14 year olds [05:16]
dub 14 year olds can be fun [05:39]
thestringpuller fun in bed when you're 14 [05:46]
thestringpuller otherwise they are annoying little shits [05:46]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller pretty much has it. [06:38]
dub mircea_popescu: you should collect a bounty to make a film of yourself delivering flowers to nefario [06:53]
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mircea_popescu by means of affixing forgivemenots to my cock and having him lick them off ? [06:53]
thestringpuller that's really gay [06:54]
thestringpuller why the fuck is my system clock so out of sync [06:56]
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EskimoBob any good news? [13:06]
guruvan my wifi is working - that's pretty good news EskimoBob :D [13:11]
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mircea_popescu http://www.infowars.com/student-expelled-for-refusing-location-tracking-rfid-badge/ [13:40]
mircea_popescu this is pretty funny [13:40]
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EskimoBob I guess guruvans wifi was "almost working" :) [14:06]
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mircea_popescu lol [14:11]
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PsychoticBoy Any news from scammy fuck nefario? [14:58]
EskimoBob none PsychoticBoy [15:09]
EskimoBob I think I am going to call him [15:09]
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PsychoticBoy ok tell him I said FU [15:09]
EskimoBob no, I did not tell him that because he is actually releasing the sh info [15:11]
EskimoBob 4 eq's got it last night and 4 will be released today and so on [15:11]
EskimoBob he can do up to 4 issues per day [15:12]
EskimoBob and hi promised to update his blog too. [15:12]
EskimoBob gigavps was one of the first ones [15:13]
PsychoticBoy ok so if I understand this correctly, he delays it again with months if he only gives info to 4 ppl each day [15:15]
PsychoticBoy typical scammer actions [15:15]
PsychoticBoy He can keep my info [15:15]
PsychoticBoy f him [15:15]
PsychoticBoy he kept my btc so [15:16]
PsychoticBoy al [15:16]
EskimoBob PsychoticBoy can you sign it over to me? :) [15:16]
PsychoticBoy hahahaa [15:16]
EskimoBob I'll use your billions for good deeds only [15:17]
PsychoticBoy I should have kick him in the nuts when I had the chance in London [15:17]
PsychoticBoy hitman? [15:17]
PsychoticBoy ;) [15:17]
PsychoticBoy lets rent a hitman on TOR [15:18]
PsychoticBoy Who`s in [15:18]
EskimoBob what about sending flowers? [15:18]
PsychoticBoy I ll send the casket [15:18]
PsychoticBoy Public James McCarthy Hitman rental pool: 19R1QWDSEYN8X3yLdJPpSbwnR8Ka3LEFxP JOIN JOIN JOIN [15:19]
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jurov lol... btw, and i ran slow scan overnight on glbse server http://bitbin.it/QZ2AXOeI [15:24]
jurov no ssh port open , tho :/ [15:24]
Temp_Kluge Assuming it was already said here, too -- Nef apparently released at least partial asset info to giga, so maybe there's a shot. [15:29]
Temp_Kluge Hopefully it's not just a list of people who filed a GLBSE claim and ticked the "send to Issuer" box. [15:29]
EskimoBob Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Securities > GOOD NEWS! GLBSE is sending out shareholders data https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126920.0 [15:30]
EskimoBob fkn usagi is following me around the forum like a sick pervert. [15:31]
kakobreklaaa you poked him too much [15:31]
kakobreklaaa :> [15:31]
EskimoBob he probably wrote 33000 lines of code to get the alert [15:31]
EskimoBob kakobreklaaa: me poking this shitbird was really nothing. He got his ass kicked by multiple people and multiple time [15:33]
EskimoBob because he kept fucking up and ling over and over [15:34]
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gigavps why all the hostility in the channel [15:52]
Luceo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126922.0 Let's raise $1500 for some of the world's poorest people through the Christmas Charity Raffle [15:58]
EskimoBob what hostility gigavps? [16:02]
gigavps PsychoticBoy is a little upset [16:33]
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PsychoticBoy yuuuuuuuuup I am upset, some ppl think they can do whatever they want with others property [16:52]
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Luceo Who's James McCarthy? [17:06]
EskimoBob Luceo: man who glbse'd you and others for a month or more [17:07]
Luceo Nefario? [17:07]
Luceo Fuck that guy [17:10]
EskimoBob yes, that is the one [17:10]
gigavps 8 weeks [17:15]
gigavps we've been waiting [17:15]
jurov gigavps, i hope you don't rave prematurely [17:21]
jurov wait till you get really everytihng [17:21]
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EskimoBob now, if someone can squeeze that scumbag Trendon and make the BTC flow back to us... [17:22]
kakobreklaaa there is no btc there [17:23]
EskimoBob if not, hang this fucker and end it for good [17:23]
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gigavps jurov i'm not raving about anything [17:26]
gigavps this whole mess is just beginning [17:26]
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smickles 13:11 < EskimoBob> no, I did not tell him that because he is actually releasing the sh info [18:09]
smickles 13:11 < EskimoBob> 4 eq's got it last night and 4 will be released today and so on [18:09]
smickles 13:11 < EskimoBob> he can do up to 4 issues per day [18:10]
mircea_popescu gigavps was one of the first ones wow ?! [18:10]
smickles what where? [18:10]
smickles why only 4 per day? [18:10]
mircea_popescu jurov you run things as # ? [18:12]
jurov no, just nmap requires it [18:13]
mircea_popescu gigavps : well done in the end. [18:15]
mircea_popescu sudo ? [18:15]
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smickles mircea_popescu: sudo is a command to run a command as root, if you have the permission to use it [18:53]
mircea_popescu read up lol [18:53]
smickles 'Super User DO [18:53]
smickles oh [18:53]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [18:53]
smickles 'mkay [18:53]
smickles rhetorical question ftw [18:53]
mircea_popescu By 1927, only the richest 2% of taxpayers paid any federal income tax [19:00]
mircea_popescu ftr. [19:00]
smickles lol [19:05]
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Namjies So... apparently, nefario started to send out asset lists... [19:53]
Namjies Mircea, you might actually have to find someone to buy ASICMINER shares from. [19:57]
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dub this whole mess is just beginning [21:53]
dub science comes to -assets [21:53]
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Ukto I was looking back on GLBSE's pricing.. "Sell fee rate, paid by seller: 0.5%" && "Buy fee rate, paid by seller: 0.5%" Couldn't that have just be written as "1% Fee paid by seller on instant orders" ? [22:41]
Ukto It just seems kinda messed up way to do it [22:42]
dub really? glbse did something stupid? surely not! [22:45]
Ukto lol :P [22:46]
dub be careful with these accusations, you wouldnt want to ruin nefario's reputation! [22:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10198 @ 0.00050278 = 5.1274 BTC [+] [22:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6102 @ 0.00050282 = 3.0682 BTC [+] [22:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00050282 = 8.1457 BTC [+] [23:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 3300 @ 0.00280004 = 9.2401 BTC [-] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18798 @ 0.00050282 = 9.452 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00050287 = 10.6106 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6592 @ 0.00050288 = 3.315 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00050288 = 7.9958 BTC [+] [23:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6328 @ 0.00050262 = 3.1806 BTC [-] [23:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24797 @ 0.00050247 = 12.4597 BTC [-] [23:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3458 @ 0.00050288 = 1.739 BTC [+] [23:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00050289 = 3.2185 BTC [+] [23:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17895 @ 0.000503 = 9.0012 BTC [+] [23:59]
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