Forum logs for 20 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [01:31]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ [01:31]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013 [01:31]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:31]
pigeons did you notice the notice mircea_popescu ? [01:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.84200, Best ask: 59.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00800, Last trade: 59.84200, 24 hour volume: 117139.99539755, 24 hour low: 50.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.05158 [01:31]
pigeons no more freenode PDPC [01:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.4748 = 0.9496 BTC [-] [01:32]
mircea_popescu what ?! [01:32]
pigeons but thanks for donating [01:32]
mircea_popescu haha no srsly, what notice ? [01:32]
pigeons http://blog.freenode.net/ [01:32]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [01:32]
gribble 30.436804 seconds [01:32]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [01:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.84200, Best ask: 59.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00800, Last trade: 59.84200, 24 hour volume: 117139.99539755, 24 hour low: 50.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.05158 [01:32]
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mircea_popescu Due to the massive reduction in financial support we found ourselves in a position where being an incorporated organisation cost more than what we were able to bring in in donations and after years of operating at a loss it was decided that we would apply for the dissolution of the corporation in order to drastically reduce costs. [01:34]
mircea_popescu lmao. so wait, the few hundreds i donated were most of their fiscal income ? [01:34]
mircea_popescu seeing how... well... there's some costs to maintain status but they're not THAT high [01:34]
dub you were the first person to donate in years, someone is taking that money and running [01:35]
tiberiusiv who posted that [01:35]
mircea_popescu dub roflmao [01:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00574 BTC [-] [01:36]
mircea_popescu wait, you're saying i got scammed by freenode ? [01:36]
pigeons richih [01:36]
tiberiusiv being an incorporated organisation costs like $200 [01:36]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv http://blog.freenode.net/ [01:36]
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mircea_popescu tiberiusiv yeah. in the uk it's more like 250 pounds iirc [01:36]
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pigeons they shoulda taken bitcoins [01:37]
pigeons i should start a foundation... [01:37]
mircea_popescu everbody here is like... wutlol?!? [01:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.00575 = 0.0115 BTC [+] [01:37]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 ping [01:38]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: pong [01:38]
dub freenode is retarded [01:38]
benkay and yet runs a service that makes all of our lives a little better or easier for negligible outlay? [01:39]
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dub though it got a lot less retarded after a certain someone got run over [01:39]
Bowjob did we actually hit 62 [01:39]
Bowjob wtf [01:39]
dub im not aware of any other incorporated ircnets [01:40]
mircea_popescu Bowjob we're headed for 100 here [01:40]
mircea_popescu dub me either iirc [01:40]
Bowjob yes of course [01:40]
Bowjob i was cleaning my room.. them bam! 62 [01:40]
mircea_popescu i guess smickles just can't get a cloak huh. [01:41]
mircea_popescu ahaha this girl! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1641634#msg1641634 [01:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7436 @ 0.00071978 = 5.3523 BTC [+] [01:42]
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mircea_popescu who ever heard of this nonsense anyway. dissolve the charity, not announce in advance... [01:46]
mircea_popescu you could say you know... hey douches... next month. next week! something. [01:46]
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benkay are you seriously surprised? [01:47]
benkay they don't have customers. [01:47]
benkay why should they act as if they did? [01:47]
mircea_popescu stakeholders is the correct expression in this circumstance. [01:48]
mircea_popescu and they do have those. [01:48]
mircea_popescu no charity can ever have customers. [01:48]
benkay probably why pathological behavior is so common among charities. [01:49]
error4733 panic sell on S.dice wtf :( [01:49]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [01:49]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004 / 0.00440918 / 0.0051 (54330 shares, 239.55 BTC), 7D: 0.004 / 0.00482395 / 0.00599987 (125487 shares, 605.34 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00605764 / 0.0069 (2344808 shares, 14,204.01 BTC) [01:49]
mircea_popescu o hey. going back to ipo levels ? [01:50]
error4733 40K profit since... [01:51]
mircea_popescu error4733 bitcoin markets be well fickle [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7158 @ 0.004 = 28.632 BTC [-] [01:52]
deadweasel bitfunder sdice is up, which is relative [01:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 976 @ 0.00073645 = 0.7188 BTC [+] [01:52]
deadweasel be well fickle indeed [01:53]
benkay bets on today's close? [01:53]
Bowjob dice doesnt look so good [01:53]
pizzaman1337 benkay: today's close? market doesn't close... [01:54]
benkay pick a universal timestamp, pizzaman1337. [01:55]
benkay price at that time. [01:55]
Bowjob what ever happened to ianbakewell [01:55]
deadweasel would be a good way to do daily bets [01:55]
Bowjob he shorted btc at 34.50 [01:55]
Bowjob hasnt been online for 15 days [01:55]
deadweasel depression? [01:55]
Bowjob he shorted s.dice when it was 0.62 [01:55]
Bowjob so he did something okay [01:56]
Bowjob not enough to cover 600 BTC short [01:56]
pigeons and when does he have to cover the dice, not out of the woods yet [01:56]
Bowjob whatever happened to proudhon [02:00]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [02:03]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.11711, Best ask: 59.74999, Bid-ask spread: 0.63288, Last trade: 59.11710, 24 hour volume: 111543.27108190, 24 hour low: 50.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.39889 [02:03]
pizzaman1337 $12 diff from the 24h low and high [02:03]
mircea_popescu lol this could be a meme. [02:04]
mircea_popescu "he shorted btc at XXX. hasnt been online for 15 days" [02:04]
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Bowjob not as bad as that dude who called 23.98 the top of 2013 [02:06]
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error4733 MP:not big diff b/t fickle et fucked. look at the book... just no way to sell if you want your money back.. :fu: [02:07]
Bowjob 300 bucks at the end of the year [02:08]
pizzaman1337 117`362 sell wall on S.DICE at .004... :( [02:08]
mircea_popescu deposits flushed [02:09]
pigeons i shorted at $2 and im still here [02:09]
mircea_popescu error4733 was a 3.5mn wall at 31 iirc. gone ? [02:09]
Bowjob I've seen S.Dice tanking honestly [02:09]
error4733 yes, early today [02:09]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135760.0 [02:09]
Bowjob read [02:09]
Bowjob I like how ian says more people will gamble on dice the higher the price [02:10]
Bowjob but then he shorts it anyway [02:10]
benkay problem of trading stocks denominated in rapidly appreciating currency [02:11]
mircea_popescu well... here's the thing. markets cycle. either this is nonsense and so the savvy will make a pretty penny buying it once the retail investors dumped [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00383838 = 7.6768 BTC [-] [02:11]
mircea_popescu or else the concerns are legitimate and sdice is going to shit. [02:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.42 = 1.26 BTC [+] [02:12]
BitHub its been going shit the last 2 months but okey [02:12]
Bowjob in any case, my concern was legit and proven right now [02:12]
Bowjob until dice goes back to 0.75 [02:12]
BitHub sdice will myspace it up by end of the year [02:12]
Bowjob i got out at 0.75 and 0.62, lets see where this goes [02:13]
Bowjob i saw some whale playing, he lost 400 BTC on one bet or something [02:13]
BitHub they're divs are shit house too [02:13]
mircea_popescu iirc this month div is going to be low, a few hundred or something [02:13]
Bowjob for this month. dice is up about 3k [02:13]
mircea_popescu a ok [02:13]
BitHub wait all month for small shit [02:13]
Bowjob erik was smart to sell those shares [02:14]
pizzaman1337 of course he was, he probably foresaw this [02:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.00072738 = 1.8912 BTC [-] [02:14]
pigeons foresaw what? increasing profits? [02:14]
mircea_popescu he still owns like what, 87% or so ? [02:14]
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Bowjob he doesnt own dice 100% irrc [02:15]
pizzaman1337 pigeons: a month where S.DICE was lower and might have a grim-looking future compared to what it seemed it would be [02:15]
Bowjob he said thers 2-3 private investors [02:15]
pizzaman1337 I think it's only a matter of time before the BTC price affects S.DICE bet volume [02:15]
pigeons pizzaman1337: people keep saying that and keep being wrong, but maybe [02:16]
pizzaman1337 pigeons: I'd like to hope with them as I'm a shareholder (just hold a little) [02:16]
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pigeons pizzaman1337: re-read [02:17]
pizzaman1337 ok, I'd like to be wrong [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 2500 @ 0.0018 = 4.5 BTC [+] [02:17]
pigeons so far just you are wrong [02:17]
pizzaman1337 I want to keep being wrong [02:18]
pizzaman1337 :) [02:18]
pigeons ok, i bet you are wrong and right a few times before its over [02:18]
mircea_popescu ^ [02:19]
mircea_popescu if only i could [02:19]
error4733 the 400 bet was just a losing martingale [02:19]
pigeons error4733: that's good [02:19]
pigeons it means suckers exist [02:19]
error4733 true, they bought s.dice overpriced at 0.0075 :D [02:20]
Bowjob the 0.75 came with the expectation that the whale would continue playing [02:21]
pigeons who is a bigger sucker, the person still getting better than fiat dividends from her 0.0075 S.DICE shares, or the sucker playing a negative EV strategy? [02:21]
Bowjob with the same intensity or even better [02:21]
error4733 i'm still in green but is earasing the btc rally :( [02:21]
Bowjob "hey chris surrender yet? " [02:21]
Bowjob He went offline [02:21]
Bowjob LOL [02:21]
Bowjob its the dude I told about BTC when it was 17, never bought any even though he expressed interest in buying some [02:22]
pizzaman1337 mircea_popescu: will the mpex bot start doing some market making on options above 750 at some point? [02:22]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 quite likely. [02:22]
pizzaman1337 any ETA? just curious [02:22]
mircea_popescu it was 1-35 last month, it was 1-20 before that [02:22]
mircea_popescu well... atm im trying to discern what tyhe fuck to do here, because price went up so much. i am guessing i'll do 15-150 by steps of 3 [02:23]
mircea_popescu which means it'll wait till options expire. [02:23]
mircea_popescu Bowjob i think the argument is misplaced. unless you actually NEED the btc, having the shares produces future revenue. even one satoshi is revenue [02:25]
mircea_popescu holding the btc or throwing them around in weird loan schemes etc does not. [02:25]
smickles bah, soebot had an overflow error [02:25]
mircea_popescu what's that ? too much soe ? [02:25]
smickles btc price is too damn high [02:25]
smickles it's a play on mpoebot [02:26]
mircea_popescu oh [02:26]
BitHub wow i've made enough coins to quit and go make a movie [02:28]
BitHub what a proud moment i thought it was going to take me all year [02:29]
mircea_popescu :D [02:29]
mircea_popescu wd [02:29]
BitHub :) its tripped out, owe a huge thanks to bitcoin [02:29]
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mircea_popescu amazingrando got scammer tag ? [02:33]
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Bowjob wasnt he gonna list her [02:33]
Bowjob e [02:33]
pigeons http://amazonbitcoins.com/gone [02:36]
pigeons operators say they are suprised amazon let them get away with using their log and name this long [02:37]
pigeons amazonlitecoins.com to open next week [02:37]
mircea_popescu lmao [02:38]
mircea_popescu "We had a good run, and we can't thank our customers enough for their overwhelming adoption and support. It truly is hard to believe that less than a month after launching we have hundreds of users and have processed thousands of dollars per day." [02:38]
mircea_popescu mmmkay. [02:38]
pizzaman1337 ;;bc,24hprc [02:40]
gribble 55.60 [02:40]
Bowjob ;;ticker [02:43]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.40000, Best ask: 59.75998, Bid-ask spread: 0.35998, Last trade: 59.77000, 24 hour volume: 105293.89337341, 24 hour low: 50.22010, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 55.89276 [02:43]
pizzaman1337 how often does the mpex bot recalc it's market options offerings prices? [02:43]
pizzaman1337 its* [02:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.16002 = 1.1201 BTC [-] [02:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [-] [02:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-] [02:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33318 = 0.9995 BTC [-] [02:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [02:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 1 @ 0.09636292 BTC [02:46]
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mircea_popescu ahhh 60 looks so pretty. [02:48]
BitHub not when you got to make another buy tomorrow :P [02:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [+] [02:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [+] [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P570T] 6 @ 0.0963272 = 0.578 BTC [-] [02:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 120 @ 0.000712 = 0.0854 BTC [+] [02:58]
[\] hello [03:03]
mircea_popescu hai [03:03]
dub yes hello [03:03]
[\] ;;seen dust [03:03]
gribble I have not seen dust. [03:03]
[\] ;;seen dub [03:03]
gribble dub was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 31 seconds ago: yes hello [03:03]
[\] yay [03:03]
mircea_popescu is not dug [03:04]
[\] dust doesn't like me [03:04]
[\] then again, many people don't [03:04]
[\] I'm a douche. [03:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00073645 = 2.7425 BTC [+] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2246 @ 0.00073744 = 1.6563 BTC [+] [03:05]
mircea_popescu slushe [03:05]
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[\] ;;seen jurov [03:07]
gribble jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 40 minutes, and 31 seconds ago: that's VERY rogue taxidermy [03:07]
tiberiusiv mircea: are you an sdice shareholder? [03:09]
mircea_popescu yeah [03:10]
tiberiusiv adding at these levels? [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4032 @ 0.00072738 = 2.9328 BTC [-] [03:11]
mircea_popescu well that i can't say. [03:11]
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tiberiusiv what did sdice ipo at? [03:12]
tiberiusiv last year [03:12]
mircea_popescu (b)Based on their knowledge of the company and its assets, as well as on evaluation of market demand, current profitability and projected evolution, the representatives of SatoshiDice have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 10`000`000 (ten million) shares, as follows : one block of 2`000`000 (two million) shares at a price of 0.0032 BTC each ; one block of 5`000`000 (five million) shares at a price of 0.0034 BTC e [03:13]
mircea_popescu ach ; one block of 3`000`000 (three million) shares at a price of 0.0037 BTC each. [03:13]
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mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/ [03:24]
mircea_popescu this is an interesting one... [03:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16001 BTC [-] [03:26]
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BitHub lulz [03:32]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136370145631.jpg prolly the best swimsuit ever. [03:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 58 @ 0.00462 = 0.268 BTC [-] [03:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 33 @ 0.00462 = 0.1525 BTC [-] [03:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 909 @ 0.00455 = 4.136 BTC [-] [03:36]
[\] I'm not diggin the thighs [03:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-] [03:41]
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[\] they look like they were photoshopped on [03:41]
mircea_popescu indeed they don't look too azn do they [03:41]
[\] racist [03:42]
mircea_popescu esp seeing how her thick butt is about 20x the thickness of her wrist [03:42]
[\] right where her hand touches, its weird there [03:43]
[\] but I suppose its possible [03:43]
[\] meh [03:43]
mircea_popescu a well. so our dreams are shatter't on the cold shores of jagged reality [03:43]
[\] there's several billion of them, so waht if 1 doesn't match? [03:44]
mircea_popescu ikr? [03:44]
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[\] so what's the mpex fee up to now? [03:47]
mircea_popescu 30 [03:47]
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[\] ;;calc 30 * [ticker --last] [03:47]
gribble 1790.6982 [03:47]
[\] not bad [03:47]
[\] it costs more for exchange membership than many people's mortgage [03:48]
mircea_popescu not to mention it generated 100's of k's worth of value or so for the people who didn't procrastinate/think themselves better/entitled/whatever. [03:48]
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[\] seperate the smart from the dumb [03:49]
mircea_popescu you and me baby are nothing but mammals so let's do it the bitcoin way! [03:49]
BitHub lets do it like they do it in the bitcoin-assets channel [03:50]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k [03:50]
BitHub nice, reminds me me fingerbanging girls at 15 [03:51]
BitHub need some beastie boys [03:51]
kakobrekla intergalactic [03:53]
kakobrekla planetary [03:53]
kakobrekla intergalactic [03:53]
* mircea_popescu ??? [03:54]
kakobrekla nvm. [03:54]
[\] lol [03:54]
smickles lol [03:54]
[\] culture fail [03:54]
BitHub lul kako [03:55]
mircea_popescu check out this guy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154258.msg1643783#msg1643783 [03:56]
mircea_popescu 7500 words expended to clearly show he doesn't understand what exactly shareholders are, how they're different from founders and wtf exactly finance is [03:56]
mircea_popescu for the past two years i've been drowning in well meaning idiocy. it's a fate worse than death. [03:56]
mircea_popescu i blame the education system. [03:57]
mircea_popescu and also i blame the equalitarian atmosphere in the english speaking world. there's no worse form of child abuse than telling them they're equal to anyone. [03:58]
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BitHub pants [03:59]
Bowjob ;;ticker [04:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.66661, Best ask: 59.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23339, Last trade: 59.90000, 24 hour volume: 103877.10338041, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.15735 [04:01]
[\] I'm pretty certain Britain doesn't tell everyone they're equal to anyone [04:01]
[\] and they're fucking English [04:01]
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mircea_popescu show me a one case past 15 years where a kid was told "you can't do what this other kid does because he is better than you" [04:02]
mircea_popescu in any sort of institutional setting. [04:02]
mircea_popescu i'd even settle for "you can't X because you suck" [04:02]
[\] oh right, because I'm in the UK school system [04:02]
[\] jesus christ, they still have nobility [04:02]
[\] that right there tells them [04:02]
[\] STFU already [04:02]
mircea_popescu no it doesn't. [04:02]
[\] you're done. [04:02]
mircea_popescu lol [04:02]
mircea_popescu not like they have to go on their knees when nobility enters the room [04:03]
mircea_popescu or at least motherfucking stand up, which is really the absolute fucking minimum. [04:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7110 @ 0.00073526 = 5.2277 BTC [+] [04:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4732 @ 0.00072738 = 3.442 BTC [-] [04:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00071402 = 4.0342 BTC [-] [04:05]
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smickles < [\]> jesus christ, they still have nobility << they still have nobility who exercise royal prerogitive [04:06]
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smickles ya know, from what i understand about the retained prerogitive, the queen could prevent the prime minister of canada from taking office after being elected [04:07]
mircea_popescu yeeeea [04:08]
dub man [04:08]
mircea_popescu problem is, it;'s never used, so it just serves as perverse strengthening of the equalitarian delusion. [04:09]
smickles has to do with the viceroy or something [04:09]
dub every times smickles trots out some alex jonesism I die a little [04:09]
smickles lol, dub it's not like i think she could actually exercise that power [04:09]
dub you will find any number of antiquated bylaws in every legal system, shit thats not worth legistlating over [04:10]
dub for example its required for hoteliers to provide horse parking in the capital of my country [04:10]
smickles but they apparently do still exercise the power by quashing laws in england which would deprive them of land and such [04:10]
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mircea_popescu smickles it's not about some obscure exercise of power. [04:11]
mircea_popescu it's about people being forcibly confronted with proof of their inferiority in a social setting, [04:11]
mircea_popescu as a proxy for their actual inferiority in reality. [04:11]
mircea_popescu helps them learn about what they can and can do and so should or shouldn't attempt. [04:11]
smickles heh, yeah, different topic entirely [04:12]
dub 'the queen runs canada' is a fairly common complaint in the extreme libertard circles is all im saying [04:12]
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smickles i've hardly any idea who runs canada. [04:14]
dub moosecock runs canada [04:14]
smickles moosecock it is then. cheers to moosecock [04:15]
mircea_popescu can't it be something a little more palatable ? [04:16]
mircea_popescu what's a girl to do with moosecock [04:17]
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dub like other british colonies they have a prime minister who fronts one of several political parties, advised by a caucus/cabinet of senior members and the lowly back benchers [04:17]
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dub effective marketing campain you have there [04:17]
mircea_popescu da fuck. [04:17]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla can you set assbot to autoban on any mention of bitswing.com for an hour ? [04:18]
dub bitswing sounds like some kind of meatspin variant [04:19]
kakobrekla in theory i could but you would be banned now [04:19]
mircea_popescu you know what's gonna happen, tomorrow diff ip [04:19]
Bugpowder its BitsWing [04:20]
mircea_popescu retarded kid, didn't even come up with a random name, just mashed kbd [04:20]
kakobrekla hm [04:20]
Bugpowder I need these diff futures to close so I can buy this S.DICE [04:20]
Bugpowder .004 [04:20]
Bugpowder really? [04:20]
Bugpowder all confidence is lost? [04:20]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [04:20]
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mircea_popescu 275 btc's worth of confidence [04:21]
Bugpowder !last m. s.dice [04:21]
assbot I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word. [04:21]
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Bugpowder ;;ticker [04:22]
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Bugpowder CM shows 60.11 [04:22]
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ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [04:23]
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mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/282-page-handbook-details-recommended-rules-of-cyberwar-engagement/ [04:23]
mircea_popescu funny. i wonder if the roman empire had rules about barbarian shaving practices right before odoacer [04:25]
Bugpowder $60.59 [04:26]
mircea_popescu in january it was 15 [04:27]
mircea_popescu 400% in 2 months [04:27]
bgupta Cyprus rally? [04:28]
mircea_popescu probably a large part of it [04:28]
mircea_popescu it's funny, cyprus govt destroyed 5bn euro worth of suckers fiat, [04:28]
mircea_popescu created ~300 mn usd worth of bitcoin wealth. [04:29]
mircea_popescu ty eu. keep on with your policies, a 4-5% conversion engine is great for bitcoin. [04:29]
* bgupta sighs… dystopian future here we come. [04:29]
mircea_popescu by the time you're all done we'll be quite okay. [04:29]
bgupta Or, Utopia if you are an anarcho-capitolist. [04:31]
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B0g4r7 beetlebee benkay bgupta BitHub BitOTTer21 blacktape blu3gr1ffon Bowjob Bugpowder burnside [04:31]
mircea_popescu actually bgupta ... any sort of future that includes the state is science fiction at this point. [04:31]
bgupta perhaps a bit hyperbolic? but I get your gist. [04:33]
pigeons mircea_popescu hyperbolic? nevar [04:34]
mircea_popescu i don't think so. without a cheap and effective way to maintain informational supremacy and without control of wealth transfer there simply can't be a state. [04:34]
ThickAsThieves https://support.mtgox.com/entries/21659340--Outage-59372-Bitcoin-Deposit-Delay dunno if this is old news tro you guys [04:34]
pigeons um it is old [04:34]
mircea_popescu the original innovation that even allowed the state (ie, bureaucracy) has been meanwhile erroded by the internet. [04:34]
mircea_popescu by now with bitcoins... there's really nothing left. [04:34]
bgupta You are assuming that certain states wouldn't just shut down the public telco grid to survive. [04:35]
mircea_popescu no, i'm not assuming that. [04:35]
mircea_popescu this is like saying "miners will be shutting out s.dice" [04:35]
mircea_popescu it's not their option to do this. [04:35]
mircea_popescu if they do, they just cease being states at all. [04:35]
mircea_popescu unless, of course, you imagine the amish are some sort of separatist state within the us. [04:36]
pigeons tx over sneakernet [04:36]
benkay has cyprus gone through with the taxation yet? [04:36]
mircea_popescu nope. [04:36]
mircea_popescu they've changed the proposed law 3 times so far, still not a law. [04:37]
dub oh I saw a good quote in -dev for you MP [04:37]
benkay what are likely outcomes if the vote in parliament fails? [04:37]
mircea_popescu benkay permanent banking vacation in cyprus. [04:37]
bgupta Well, I am thinking that it could swing to the other direction of totalatarianism.. in the US we are seeing a steady erosion of our freedoms, as the surveillance state becomes a reality. [04:37]
mircea_popescu bgupta only for the people who elect to stay there. [04:38]
benkay cuz if they reopen instant run [04:38]
mircea_popescu most everyone of any import has left already however. [04:38]
dub [19:11] sure. We have to embrace transaction volume, more people == more success == more transactions [04:38]
benkay not if you're friends with your local politicians, bgupta [04:38]
mircea_popescu dub good quote. [04:38]
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benkay and can purchase their friendship [04:38]
mircea_popescu benkay even so it's safer to purchase it from a distance. [04:39]
mircea_popescu much like putin's oligarchs. [04:39]
bgupta the reality is most citizens aren't technically adept to use privacy tools properly.. nor don't care, and it will be hard for those that aren't superrich to uproot their families on a (to most citizens) alarmist future view. [04:39]
mircea_popescu bgupta why do the inept and poor matter in this discussion ? [04:39]
benkay good lord of course they're not [04:39]
mircea_popescu neither freedom nor politics are for them. [04:40]
Bugpowder [22:29] created ~300 mn usd worth of bitcoin wealth. SO FAR. This isn't over yet. [04:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: worry about the intelligent poor. [04:40]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder also true. was just doing a sort of "minimal eval" [04:41]
dub bgupta: the real reality is you've been a surveillance state since the '90s [04:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform are these provably intelligent or just assumedly intelligent ? [04:41]
dub you're just starting to wake up [04:41]
Bugpowder ;;bids 50 [04:41]
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bgupta dub: Yeah: Unofficially, now they are pushing really hard to make it official.. :( [04:41]
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bgupta at least with it unofficial they had to think twice about using info they weren't supposed to have [04:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: bioweapons. doesn't take a world-class brain. [04:42]
Bugpowder The truth is is that we live in an surveliannce state, BUT the watchers are pretty lazy, like most humans. [04:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: and it only takes one. [04:42]
mircea_popescu im not sure i follow. [04:42]
Bugpowder bioweapons? [04:42]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder you ever saw my rural/urban graph ? [04:42]
Bugpowder R U talking GMO foods? [04:43]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: intelligent poor could trash civilization permanently if they wanted to. [04:43]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu: nope [04:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform okay. i guess they might have to then. [04:43]
Bugpowder does anyone here think GMO is bad? [04:43]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ [04:43]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i think it's potentially bad. [04:43]
asciilifeform Bugpowder: the mainstream anti-GMO hysteria is a distraction from real issues re: control of food supplies. [04:44]
vampireb i dont have strong feelings about GMO, but everyone is NY is crazy about "organics" food.. [04:44]
vampireb though "organics" usually means crap [04:44]
Bowjob whoa canadian bitcoins selling for $70 per coin? [04:45]
asciilifeform vampireb: signalling. [04:45]
vampireb ;;ticker [04:45]
mircea_popescu the jewish deli still the best way to get edible food in ny [04:45]
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vampireb !ticker mpex s.dice [04:45]
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vampireb men russian stores are fine here, though these are jewish russian anyway [04:46]
mircea_popescu heh. [04:46]
Bugpowder This is a good summary of GMO from some who really understands the issues. http://www.michaeleisen.org/blog/?p=1135 [04:46]
asciilifeform Bugpowder: the only actual problem with GMO products is the "terminator seed," which gives American patent trolls total control over food supplies. [04:47]
mircea_popescu patent trolls. good way to put it. [04:48]
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vampireb i am quiet sure that humans adapted to food too in the last 100 years... well look at all these fatties in US [04:48]
vampireb (reminds myself to go to gym tomorrow) [04:49]
asciilifeform My guess is that much of the anti-GMO hysteria is funded or at least encouraged by the GMO vendors, specifically to distract from this. [04:49]
Bugpowder I thought patent trolls are people that sue that are not acutally using the patent, NPEs for example. [04:50]
asciilifeform When nearly the entire opposition to something consists of idiot "back to nature" crackpots, a reasonable person starts to see it as a great idea. [04:50]
asciilifeform Bugpowder: that would be like saying that a fairytale "Bridge Troll" must never actually use his bridge. [04:51]
mircea_popescu ha. good point. [04:51]
asciilifeform Bugpowder: if your entire revenue stream depends on patents, you're a patent troll. [04:51]
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benkay someone's going to get insanely wealthy using genomics to breed better corn [04:52]
Bugpowder why is a patent troll bad? They monetize intellectual property so small inventors can collect on people that rip them off, with reduced risk. [04:53]
benkay instead of trying to engineer nature [04:53]
asciilifeform benkay: for some value of "better" this already happened. [04:53]
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asciilifeform Bugpowder: have you ever been a small inventor and actually tried to prosecute a ripoff of your idea? [04:53]
Bugpowder benkay, what is the difference between "genomics" and trying to "engineer nature" [04:53]
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Bugpowder asciilifeform: I have some knowledge of the fields in which I invite debate. [04:54]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder i fail to see a difference between patent trolls and any other ip rights trolls. [04:54]
asciilifeform Bugpowder: if you have the funds to prosecute a patent lawsuit in any jurisdiction that matters, you are by definition not a "small inventor." [04:54]
mircea_popescu if you think riaa is making artitsts be paid you're perhaps going on wishful thinking [04:54]
Bugpowder There are plenty of plaintiff side contingency firms that will take your patent case if you have a valid claim and a decent damages model. [04:55]
Bugpowder FOR FREE [04:55]
benkay inorite? [04:55]
benkay actual history of crop yield improvement. [04:55]
benkay until recently, rooted in breeding instead of engineering. [04:55]
benkay and whoopee congratulations, we're so efficient in america that we got some *great* results by doing some weird stuff and then grew that everywhere. instant monoculture [04:55]
asciilifeform Bugpowder: patent trials are routinely won and lost on technicalities. And your opponent can drag the trial onwards into infinity, until you or the party representing you runs out of cash. [04:56]
Bugpowder benkay, the combination of selective breeding with targeted mutagenesis is MUCH more effective at increasing yield, quality AND adapting to pests. [04:56]
asciilifeform At least in the U.S., it is a straightforward contest of bank accounts. [04:56]
smickles asciilifeform: sounds like you are talking about any court case [04:56]
Bugpowder asciilifeform: That is false in a contingency case. [04:57]
Bugpowder Let me suggest an alternative formulation of patent troll. [04:57]
pigeons patent troll = anyone who files afucking patent [04:58]
benkay horrible business [04:58]
benkay avoid at all costs [04:58]
Bugpowder A patent troll is someone who sues a large number of possibly infringing defendents, many small businesses, who lack the funds to defend themselves, and thus seek to shake down these defendents for a settlement that is slightly less than the cost of fighting it thru dismissal [04:58]
pigeons trademark abuse i think should be prosecuted under fraud and is a valid form of ip [04:58]
pigeons but patent have never been ethical [04:58]
asciilifeform This was perhaps the original patent troll: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Licensed_Automobile_Manufacturers [04:58]
benkay bugpowder ooh with mutagenesis awesome i need sauce tho [04:58]
bgupta patent is fine, except where it was extended in term, and applied to sfotware and business methods. [04:59]
pigeons no [04:59]
asciilifeform If you use patents to keep a product off the market (or to keep it a luxury good whereas civilization might otherwise make it a mass good) you are a patent troll. [04:59]
Bugpowder I would say Apple suing Samsung, or Carnegie Mellon suing Marvell is not a patent troll. [04:59]
benkay and must run now so pm plz bugpowder? [04:59]
pigeons i would say apple existing is a troll [04:59]
mircea_popescu a patent troll is any entity which seeks to enrich itself by denominating and thus proposing to have captured anything which exists outside of and independent of their efforts. [05:00]
BitHub apple is one of life's trolls [05:00]
Bugpowder bgupta: The Bilski ruling has invalidated most software only patents [05:00]
dub apple is a user troll [05:00]
BitHub btw i'm still buying patents in exchange for btc [05:00]
asciilifeform pigeons: if all Apple patents were voided tomorrow, would there be a flood of Apple-quality products from other vendors? [05:00]
mircea_popescu in this reading any attempt to patent anything to do with gmo is patent trolling. [05:00]
BitHub if anyone has any good cheap ones [05:00]
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mircea_popescu you may patent the process, you may not patent the result, inasmuch as the result is a plant [05:00]
Bugpowder asciilifeform: NOPE [05:00]
pigeons god i hope we never have apple "quality" products from anyone [05:00]
bgupta When was that? I thought that it was still up in the air? [05:00]
Bugpowder Bilski was over a year ago [05:00]
pigeons any attempt to use force to control ideas is trolling [05:01]
asciilifeform pigeons: if you have no love for Apple-style products, why are their patents a problem for you? [05:01]
mircea_popescu as a more general formulation, yes pigeons [05:01]
Bugpowder Ruling is that the software must interact with a physical machine [05:01]
pigeons all patents are a problem all copyrights for all humans [05:01]
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Bugpowder provides an additional test for KO software only claims [05:01]
bgupta wait that didn't have blanket applicability the supreme court specifically made a very narrow ruling deferring the question of patentability for a future court/case [05:01]
pigeons tradmarks can stay [05:01]
mircea_popescu trademarks must stay even. [05:01]
pigeons yeah [05:01]
bgupta yes.. [05:02]
Bugpowder I think it is being read fairly broadly by the community [05:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8596 = 1.7192 BTC [+] [05:02]
Bugpowder certainly it is influencing what cases are now being brought and what are discarded based on 'bilski vulnerability' [05:02]
bgupta It however could have been in worse.. and they could have affirmed the validity of sfotware patents [05:02]
asciilifeform trademarks are appealing if you think that competitors could actually fool chumps into thinking they are buying your product. [05:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8596 BTC [+] [05:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform trademarks are really just a way to prevent idiots from abusing "some" names. [05:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if someone were to open a fake MPEx, would anyone be fooled? Why do you need trademarks enforced by governments? [05:03]
mircea_popescu basically, marketing consists on trying to extract value from a word. [05:03]
mircea_popescu to the detriment of everyone else. it's a society-wide language-wide externality. [05:03]
pigeons if you pass yourself off as something you're not, that is fraud to me [05:03]
mircea_popescu the association of shitproduct with "superior" damages the word superior [05:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: why not extract it from a PGP public key instead? can't be faked, and doesn't need armed thugs to enforce. [05:03]
mircea_popescu then when i say superior people misunderstand me, thus making me explain. [05:03]
mircea_popescu i should get paid by shitproduct for this. [05:03]
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pigeons asciilifeform: interesting [05:04]
mircea_popescu so in general, until marketing can be outlawed completely, trademarking is a bandaid [05:04]
pigeons no marketing? how will we bring bitcoin to wall street? [05:05]
mircea_popescu heh. [05:05]
asciilifeform you buy an XYZ pair of shoes. and it would come with a unique (verifiable through the net) RSA-signed message, with a serial number, stating that the unit is genuine and was sold in such-and-such a place on such a date. [05:05]
mircea_popescu seriously, if us libertards did smart shit (such as ban any advertising) instead of dumb shit (ban smoking) [05:05]
mircea_popescu we'd be looking at a muchly different us balance of trade [05:05]
pigeons and truth is me and many other will happily pay less for the "fake" shoes [05:05]
BitHub pirated shit is the best [05:06]
mircea_popescu BitHub just as long as you can identify what it is you're buying. [05:06]
BitHub many lv bags, wallets sunnies overseas [05:06]
mircea_popescu this is the underpinning of free markets : being able to evaluate what you buy and what you pay for it. [05:06]
BitHub over the years* [05:06]
asciilifeform pigeons: trademarks existing is the whole reason why we have chumps willing to pay for names instead of physical properties of the product. [05:06]
BitHub sold them back to my friends at like 500% profits [05:06]
BitHub they didn't care [05:06]
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pigeons im more worried about shipping sunglasses from china than ordering from silk road [05:07]
BitHub better off going there and buying up and bringing a years worth back [05:07]
asciilifeform the right way to deal with fraud is to make it instantly and physically detectable at the scene in as many cases as possible. and not post-facto enforcement. [05:07]
mircea_popescu this would be civilisational colonisation btw. [05:07]
mircea_popescu typical of the interaction between a more advanced and a less advanced civilisation [05:08]
BitHub those dr dre beat headphones [05:08]
mircea_popescu germans went to buy shit in rome etc. [05:08]
pigeons prime directive [05:08]
BitHub bought some for like 50$ sounds exactly the same, same chinese factory that's why [05:08]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's a point. [05:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the problem with that kind of interaction is that it uses a thermodynamic gradient, if you will. one that eventually levels out. [05:08]
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mircea_popescu china will eventualyl level out. [05:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the leveling can go in either direction, of course. unlike a heat engine. [05:09]
mircea_popescu haha [05:09]
BitHub i just love going to china town and buying 10 ray ban sunnies for the price of 1 [05:09]
BitHub and its the same quality [05:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.004231 = 0.4231 BTC [-] [05:10]
BitHub there is shit stuff of course you have to look out for but i only get the best pirated stuff [05:10]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the most likely conclusion, of course, is that the "hot" side grows lax and lazy from the cheap labour traded for goodies by the "cold" side. and the latter eventually sacks Rome. [05:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+] [05:10]
mircea_popescu it's how the civilisation engine has been working so far yes. [05:10]
mircea_popescu nothing wrong with it, either. i think it's perfect [05:11]
mircea_popescu and it's also why i laugh at silly notions such as midnightmagic's "progress" [05:11]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: its perfect right up to the moment some disgruntled grad school dropout in Mumbair turns loose the superplague. [05:12]
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asciilifeform fucking over the stupid and the impotent is safe. but who can be 100% sure that those are the only ones he is fucking over? [05:14]
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smickles sounds like the army of the 12 monkeys [05:18]
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asciilifeform smickles: not if you actually saw the film. [05:18]
smickles asciilifeform: huh? [05:19]
smickles i have seen the film [05:19]
smickles are you just being a pedant? [05:20]
asciilifeform smickles: I suppose I spoiled it already for everyone who hasn't. [05:20]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform nobody. but that's not really the point, now is it ? [05:21]
Bowjob ;;ticker [05:21]
mircea_popescu you can't suspend action until you're 100% sure. [05:21]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.28000, Best ask: 60.29000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 60.29000, 24 hour volume: 106776.94964017, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.47866 [05:21]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [05:21]
gribble 0 seconds [05:21]
mircea_popescu and that mumbairite can always drop by and say hi. especially if she has nice legs and a thick ass i'll be interested. [05:21]
Bowjob help me pick the color of my lambo [05:21]
mircea_popescu Bowjob salmon. [05:21]
Bowjob mhm [05:21]
Bowjob salmon aventador [05:22]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: great illustration right there, for why we're fucked: the grad student will be thinking of his sister, whoring for food in the West, when he pulls the trigger. [05:22]
smickles !last m c310t [05:22]
assbot I don't know those people, and they don't look very friendly. [05:22]
smickles !last c310t [05:22]
assbot The vision of Christ that thou dost see ... is my vision's greatest enemy. [05:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform a well. [05:22]
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smickles $vwap o.btcusd.c310t [05:23]
mpexbot smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.29789377 high: 0.31662031 low: 0.17554903 volume: 22028 btc: 6562.00388512 [05:23]
smickles $depth o.btcusd.c310t [05:23]
mpexbot smickles: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.44954682'] [05:23]
mpexbot smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.54818967'] [05:23]
smickles ;;ticker [05:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 60.27999, Best ask: 60.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02001, Last trade: 60.27999, 24 hour volume: 106733.98262924, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.48785 [05:23]
smickles -Uo [05:24]
smickles buh [05:24]
* smickles drools [05:24]
mircea_popescu !ticker m p750t [05:24]
assbot [MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.35270204 / 0.49421702 / 0.50754217 (12009 shares, 5,935.05 BTC), 7D: 0.35270204 / 0.49421702 / 0.50754217 (12009 shares, 5,935.05 BTC), 30D: 0.35270204 / 0.89701544 / 1.53153505 (40792 shares, 36,591.05 BTC) [05:24]
mircea_popescu that thang... [05:24]
smickles ;;calc 36591.05*[ticker --last] [05:25]
gribble 2196384.36264 [05:25]
smickles fuppin pitooty [05:26]
mircea_popescu piwho ? [05:27]
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smickles this price is making my brain melt [05:28]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 231 @ 0.22 = 50.82 BTC [+] [05:30]
mircea_popescu yeah srsly. [05:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you should put up "oderint dum metuant" as a subtitle on your site. [05:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if I'm not mistaken, it sums up your political angle nicely. [05:30]
mircea_popescu haha [05:30]
mircea_popescu it's only my angle with regards to politics of reality. [05:31]
mircea_popescu people don't like capitalism ? fuck them. [05:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00074197 = 4.3034 BTC [+] [05:31]
mircea_popescu people wish to legislate against the fact that their wife will cheat ? [05:31]
mircea_popescu fuck them too. [05:31]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: I argue that, just as it is better to have a wife who doesn't cheat, it is also good to not be hated. especially if this can be accomplished at reasonable cost. [05:32]
mircea_popescu the feelings of others are their problem, not something that can ever carry a cost. [05:32]
mircea_popescu when i wish to pay whores i'll say. [05:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this sounds perfectly logical inside your head, until you're outnumbered and outgunned, and down on your knees - ready to please? [05:33]
mircea_popescu this, incidentally, is the path towards a harem of wives who aren't particularly inclined to cheat, among other goodies. [05:33]
mircea_popescu yea well, let's just say i'm a lucky sort. haven't been outgunned yet. [05:33]
BitHub being married, wives, gf's etc its for poor lonely people [05:34]
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kakobrekla its a hobby [05:35]
kakobrekla you gotta _do_ something [05:35]
kakobrekla or "do something" [05:35]
BitHub i'm just pass that point, cant do that normal shit [05:36]
mircea_popescu too busy with the fake raybans ? [05:36]
BitHub its just another overhead [05:38]
kakobrekla less chicks more space for raybans [05:38]
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mircea_popescu mo raybans mo powerbeams [05:39]
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BitHub less tang more ray [05:39]
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BitHub anyway, i've just noticed its poor, lonely people who are really desperate for female companionship [05:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C430T] 4 @ 0.26082263 = 1.0433 BTC [+] [05:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: "The only thing you cannot do with a bayonet is sit on it." (Talleyrand) [05:42]
Chaang-Noi mp, starting to think those options were not overpriced :) [05:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform hehe one of the cleverer frenchmen. [05:42]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi :p [05:42]
mircea_popescu if only we knew yesterday what the evening of today spells out [05:43]
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Chaang-Noi still, 29 days anything can happen [05:43]
staco ;;seen smickles [05:43]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 minutes and 57 seconds ago: this price is making my brain melt [05:43]
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Chaang-Noi asicminer is level, lc is level and btc way up, going to be a good day:) [05:44]
mircea_popescu T options expire on the 29th [05:44]
Chaang-Noi ahh [05:45]
Chaang-Noi 64 looks like it might take a while [05:45]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 64 [05:45]
gribble There are currently 15921.487 bitcoins offered at or under 64.0 USD, worth 1002943.0276 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds [05:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00496 BTC [+] [05:46]
mircea_popescu anyway, whoever sold those 12k 750T puts earlier is looking at something like 10k btc in profits atm [05:46]
mircea_popescu no that's not right [05:46]
staco sold the puts? [05:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000719 = 0.0036 BTC [+] [05:46]
mircea_popescu ;;calc .17 * 12 [05:47]
gribble 2.04 [05:47]
mircea_popescu like 2k [05:47]
mircea_popescu staco yea [05:47]
staco didn't the bot sell the puts? [05:47]
mircea_popescu i think the bot bought [05:47]
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staco i could be wrong, but I thought the bot sold them [05:47]
mircea_popescu $depth O.BTCUSD.P750T [05:47]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1000 @ 0.33576135'] [05:47]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.43628681'] [05:47]
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mircea_popescu i think at the time it was like .5 btc bid .8 btc ask [05:48]
mircea_popescu so it couldn't have been [05:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1544 @ 0.00075702 = 1.1688 BTC [+] [05:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00075916 = 3.1505 BTC [+] [05:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.827 BTC [-] [05:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.827 = 4.962 BTC [-] [05:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.826 = 5.782 BTC [-] [05:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.824 = 4.944 BTC [-] [05:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.823 = 2.469 BTC [-] [05:56]
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mircea_popescu wasn't this supposed to be 1 and etc ? [05:57]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc asicminer-pt [05:57]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.8221 / 0.85317 / 0.87 (167 shares, 142.5 BTC), 7D: 0.695 / 0.80182 / 0.9489 (1572 shares, 1260.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.74901 / 1 (3052 shares, 2286 BTC) [05:57]
mircea_popescu ic [05:57]
Chaang-Noi mp it traded at 1 but as it pays out dividends the value of the stock will go down, as the best dividends are the first ones [05:59]
pigeons the best dividends are the first ones? [05:59]
Chaang-Noi and these were bids being filled, still up over 800% :) [06:00]
pigeons i missed the context of that one [06:00]
mircea_popescu i hought the plan was to increase % iof total hash [06:00]
mircea_popescu they currently do what, 6th out of 30 ? [06:00]
pigeons oh asicminer [06:00]
Chaang-Noi the best dividends are or the highest dividends will odds are be the first .1 paid back, cuz it is only 1/1630000 not 1/400000 [06:01]
pigeons yeah but 6th today is worth more than 30 th in 3 months [06:01]
Chaang-Noi pigeons is right [06:01]
mircea_popescu extra zeroes detectedf [06:01]
Chaang-Noi but yes they say they will be at 60 th by the end of april, and they will expand after that [06:01]
Chaang-Noi over all goal is to stay at or above 105 of the network [06:01]
Chaang-Noi yeah i did an extra 0 i need my coffee [06:02]
mircea_popescu so if they're at 10% of network they permanently pay the same divs [06:02]
mircea_popescu until block halves at least [06:02]
Chaang-Noi im not selling what i hold at these prices, however with btc being $60 im sure some people want to cash out [06:02]
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Chaang-Noi yes mp, but their goal is to average at 105 not always be at 10% [06:03]
mircea_popescu average is what we're talking about here tho [06:03]
mircea_popescu or you think they'll slowly lose out ? [06:03]
pigeons of course they will [06:03]
Chaang-Noi they ahve like 15% now, if they get their 60 th before bfl then they will ahve over 50% [06:03]
pigeons what bitcoin venture goes as planned [06:03]
mircea_popescu pigeons take mtgox for instance [06:04]
Chaang-Noi they wont stay just under 505 forever [06:04]
mircea_popescu :D [06:04]
mircea_popescu http://blockchain.info/pools?timespan=4days this looks remarkably healthy actually [06:05]
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mircea_popescu hopefully people understand the importance of deepbit and we see it about equal to btcguild [06:05]
kakobrekla deepbit is becoming obsolete [06:05]
pigeons eligius ftw [06:06]
pigeons especially now that fincen says mining = money transmission ;) [06:06]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla they're running 0.3 iirc [06:06]
kakobrekla huh? [06:06]
mircea_popescu i'd mine at a pool that specifically never upgrades. [06:06]
mircea_popescu pigeons it does ? [06:06]
pigeons to some lawyers [06:07]
mircea_popescu link or somfin' ? [06:07]
mircea_popescu wait! coinlab found a block during the past 4 days ?! [06:07]
mircea_popescu what with! maffs ? [06:08]
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pigeons its just stupid talk, it clearly says you have to exchange for other funds or your a user not a transmitter [06:08]
mircea_popescu pretty much [06:09]
Chaang-Noi like this really means much other than people who want to try to follow the law can [06:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 9 @ 0.16002 = 1.4402 BTC [+] [06:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.22048 BTC [+] [06:11]
pigeons it means coinlab needs to find a new bank [06:11]
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mircea_popescu silicon valley bank not quite ready for wall street ? [06:12]
pigeons we'll see [06:13]
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kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1645540#msg1645540 [06:15]
kakobrekla jeez [06:15]
kakobrekla also wtf deadterra reality compas is off? [06:15]
mircea_popescu deadterra has an issue vouching for the wrong people. [06:19]
mircea_popescu it's like a disease. [06:19]
mircea_popescu "I've been an "IT" person all my life and I have no idea how I missed out on things like buying Google or Apple. Bitcoin seems to be my last chance. Any tips would be appreciated." [06:21]
mircea_popescu this is sweet. [06:22]
mircea_popescu he has no idea how he could have missed it. taking public calls, what might have been the cause ? [06:22]
pigeons i cant even follow that stuff [06:23]
pigeons maybe the beer [06:23]
mircea_popescu also in the news, at his local college there's all these fresh beauties looking for boyfriends all the time [06:23]
mircea_popescu how could he have missed that too ?! [06:23]
mircea_popescu life's hard but unfair! [06:24]
kakobrekla life is optional [06:24]
mircea_popescu hahaha! [06:24]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1641634#msg1641634 [06:24]
mircea_popescu check out what she says and what usagi responds with [06:24]
mircea_popescu jesus this is better than stand-up [06:25]
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kakobrekla you are not a smart enoguh investor for his fan club [06:26]
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pigeons haha [06:27]
mircea_popescu yeah. i keep missing out on lots of hot btc deals because i am not smart enough [06:27]
mircea_popescu honestly, it sucks, but what can i do. [06:27]
pigeons your points are interesting in and of themselves and I'm sure once you get on track with how we operate you will understand it. [06:27]
mircea_popescu anyone wanna script usagi next meltdown ? [06:27]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.1401 *[ticker --last] [06:29]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [06:30]
mircea_popescu ;;goxlag [06:30]
kakobrekla hehe [06:30]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [06:30]
mircea_popescu um [06:30]
kakobrekla its foxxed [06:30]
the-bucket-shop mtgox website is down [06:30]
mircea_popescu bejoysus [06:30]
mircea_popescu ANYWAY. [06:30]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 0.1401 *62 [06:30]
gribble 8.6862 [06:30]
pigeons they are re-scanning the blockchain for 0.8 [06:30]
pigeons seriously [06:30]
mircea_popescu so usagi is selling silver at 86.86 dollars an ounce ?! [06:31]
mircea_popescu can i short this thing anywhere ? [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2706 @ 0.00076296 = 2.0646 BTC [+] [06:31]
pigeons i think so [06:31]
kakobrekla usagi is like diablo, value destroyer [06:31]
pigeons click the options tab [06:31]
mircea_popescu eh he's on bitfunder [06:31]
pigeons on both bitfunder and btct [06:31]
mircea_popescu anyone wanna be my bitfunder broker ? [06:31]
toffoo why? [06:33]
toffoo they don't charge 30 btc to join [06:33]
mircea_popescu so ? [06:33]
toffoo so why do you need a broker? just join yourself [06:34]
mircea_popescu heh. [06:34]
mircea_popescu this is like... why am i not cutting my own hair. [06:34]
Namworld [00:27] yeah. i keep missing out on lots of hot btc deals because i am not smart enough [06:34]
Namworld [00:27] honestly, it sucks, but what can i do. [06:34]
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Namworld quoting someone? [06:34]
mircea_popescu Namworld nope [06:34]
pigeons deadterra [06:34]
pigeons i assume [06:34]
Namworld ah. Just missing out then. [06:35]
kakobrekla but im like a ball of furr so no skill needed [06:35]
Namworld On a few things [06:35]
mircea_popescu no, i was just being honest. there's all these great deals offered all the time (especialyl in the lending section) [06:35]
mircea_popescu that i never end up being smart enough to take. [06:35]
Namworld Honestly, if you knew what would happen when, you’d triple your BTC weekly. [06:35]
Namworld Thing is, there’s almost just as many losing proposals [06:35]
Namworld even more [06:35]
mircea_popescu for any values of "almost as many" that approach infinity [06:36]
Chaang-Noi 86 dollars an oz? and people buy it? oh lol [06:36]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi not rly. [06:36]
Namworld TU.SILVER? Yeah... pricey [06:36]
Chaang-Noi well then who cares, i can offer gold at $5000 :) [06:36]
mircea_popescu i suspect usagi has a future as a stand-up comedian pretending to be a btc finance guy [06:36]
mircea_popescu course... that's a tough racket, there's what, 5000 of them ? [06:37]
mircea_popescu what's silver spot these days anyway ? 40somthing ? [06:38]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/w3p5sxK.png << cancel transation [06:38]
kakobrekla 28 [06:38]
mircea_popescu wait wut ? [06:38]
kakobrekla 28.8$ silver [06:39]
mircea_popescu uh. [06:39]
kakobrekla 1612$ gold [06:39]
mircea_popescu so if anyone buys tu.silver that's an insta-70% haircut ? [06:39]
Namworld yes [06:40]
mircea_popescu cyprus should do this [06:40]
pigeons and usagi hopes silver goes down [06:40]
pigeons - /q bitcoin-goldRobo @silver [06:40]
mircea_popescu by the way : the deal just got got. [06:41]
pigeons bitcoin-goldRobo> The #coinabul Silver Ticker: 0.482BTC per OZ of Silver, 0.015BTC per Gram of Silver and $28.92/OZ of Silver. [06:41]
mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/business/global/cyprus-rejects-tax-on-bank-deposits.html?_r=0 [06:41]
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kakobrekla yeah saw earlier on bbc [06:41]
kakobrekla while nap. [06:41]
pigeons https://btct.co/security/SILVER#tab6 click details [06:42]
mircea_popescu YES 3 / 7 NO [06:43]
mircea_popescu so how is it trading ?! [06:43]
mircea_popescu "TU.SILVER is the largest precious metals fund in the community, and has more than 20 times the liquidity of all other precious metals funds combined." [06:44]
mircea_popescu meanwhile [06:44]
mircea_popescu We have been in operation on BitFunder since January 2013. We have over 50oz. in sales and have redeemed more than 10oz of silver directly to customers. [06:44]
mircea_popescu so this community is not even able to pay for judas. [06:44]
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pigeons BTCTRADINGPT voted NO with comment: BTC-TRADING-PT shareholders voted to not approve: 528-0 [06:45]
mircea_popescu ouch [06:45]
mircea_popescu say what you will of people, sheep, stupidity, what have you... in this case at least i can find no flaw. [06:46]
pigeons haha i like how right in the contract on btct.co it says, "We have an exclusive arrangement with BitFunder to support BitFunder as a platform. We will not trade on any other exchange until August 2013." [06:47]
kakobrekla lolol [06:47]
Namworld mircea_popescu: sure, we are. Just no one investing in Usagi related stuff. [06:48]
mircea_popescu pigeons o.o [06:48]
mircea_popescu Ukto is he in breach ? [06:49]
pigeons should we chip in and pool the 0.1401 for lieftime access to his books? [06:50]
mircea_popescu pigeons you have an account and the interest to bother ? [06:50]
pigeons sure [06:51]
pigeons 1BjGr16hjmAKEmCAstswX6m55WDVnTPjHB [06:52]
pigeons ok guys we're getting a report, this better be humorous [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1422 @ 0.00074197 = 1.0551 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3252 @ 0.00072858 = 2.3693 BTC [-] [06:54]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [06:55]
gribble 0 seconds [06:55]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [06:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.75001, Best ask: 59.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 59.70002, 24 hour volume: 104259.81722566, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.75246 [06:55]
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Chaang-Noi pigeons need more funds? id like to see what you find as well [07:14]
pigeons no its courtesy mircea_popescu [07:14]
Chaang-Noi thanks mp [07:15]
mircea_popescu sure [07:15]
Chaang-Noi i hope the knowledge is shared:) [07:15]
mircea_popescu such as it is. [07:15]
Namworld I wouldn’t mind more funds. [07:15]
Chaang-Noi knowledge/lulz [07:15]
Namworld For BTC-BOND [07:15]
Namworld Too many people cashing out. [07:15]
Namworld It’s a pain to service. [07:16]
Chaang-Noi yeah, i dont like lending out money... wife twisted my arm to lend $400 to one of her friends for 2 weeks. im still pissed [07:16]
pigeons dont worry about your wife's friend, he's pay back [07:17]
pigeons *he'll [07:17]
Chaang-Noi not so worried about the money, it just changes things socially when you lend moeny to freinds [07:17]
Chaang-Noi or if he wont pay back, no friend, lol [07:17]
kakobrekla i have seen people turn on you for 100$ [07:17]
Namworld People are mad... [07:18]
Chaang-Noi this is thailand and this is like 1/2 a months wages maybe more [07:18]
mircea_popescu they make 800 bucks am onth in thailand ?! [07:18]
mircea_popescu no wai. [07:18]
pigeons i was joking, you're wife asked you to loan money to her friend a dude? [07:18]
Chaang-Noi the average wage here is $600 he gets paid more cuz he has a skill in demand [07:18]
mircea_popescu is that skill a long yet thick penis ? [07:19]
Chaang-Noi pigeons they are a family, we are kinda close [07:19]
kakobrekla so much humor and so much scam, sometiems its hard to tell which is which [07:19]
pigeons ok [07:19]
Chaang-Noi no, i live in a good fruit growing region, and he is able and willing to work lopng hours to take care of the trees [07:19]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla hence scammor [07:19]
kakobrekla hehe [07:19]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi what fruits are those ? [07:19]
Chaang-Noi mangostean and durian mostly [07:20]
Chaang-Noi others too, but others dont need as much skills evidently [07:20]
Chaang-Noi mangostean is my fav fruit, durian is close to the my least fav [07:20]
mircea_popescu hahaha i knew it [07:21]
Chaang-Noi ? [07:21]
mircea_popescu mangosteen! where is lowtax! [07:21]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi it's this perennial mockery @something bawful's history [07:21]
mircea_popescu they were pushing some mangosteen scam thing a while back, much drama ensued [07:21]
Chaang-Noi lowtax live about a mile from me in the usa when we were growing up [07:22]
Chaang-Noi i dont know about that but its damn hard to get in the usa [07:22]
pigeons now its at the supermarkets [07:22]
Chaang-Noi its like $50 airshipped over night from thailand on amazin.com for like 7 fruit [07:22]
Chaang-Noi is it? impressive [07:22]
Chaang-Noi can they grow it in Fl? [07:23]
pigeons ah [07:23]
pigeons yeah [07:23]
mircea_popescu so 60 is the new 50 eh ? [07:23]
Chaang-Noi nice, used to be illegal [07:23]
pigeons ah i see, googling [07:23]
Chaang-Noi well, we kinda blasted into and out of 50 with no stop... 60 might be the new 47.5 [07:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00575 BTC [+] [07:23]
Chaang-Noi i did hear tehy started to open up mangostean in the usa a few years ago, [07:24]
Chaang-Noi im glad to see it is in the usa, it is an awesome fruit [07:24]
Namworld looks yummy [07:25]
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Chaang-Noi yeah, its like cotten candy but with a strong vit c taste [07:25]
Chaang-Noi good stuff, and its really vitiman packed [07:25]
Namworld Where’s the GUI MPEx client? [07:26]
Namworld oh right, nevermind... smickles.com [07:26]
Namworld kind of easy to remember [07:26]
Chaang-Noi :) [07:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10328 @ 0.00072562 = 7.4942 BTC [-] [07:27]
mircea_popescu yeah, good name huh [07:27]
Namworld not responding tho. He must be on a BitVPS vps... [07:28]
kakobrekla lol [07:28]
Namworld Seriously, our rented nodes have been giving us so much shit lately. We can’t wait to get everyone moved to our own servers. [07:28]
Chaang-Noi mp, are you an artist? [07:28]
mircea_popescu yeah i dont see it either [07:28]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi not in any conventional sense i don't think [07:28]
Chaang-Noi http://mirceapopescu.com/mirceapopescu.com_/drawing.html [07:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00496 = 0.0099 BTC [+] [07:28]
mircea_popescu that's some old dood. [07:29]
Chaang-Noi ahh, i half expected to see an SA site [07:29]
Chaang-Noi SA seems lazy these days [07:29]
mircea_popescu not what it used to be in 2006 or w/e [07:30]
Chaang-Noi or 2001 [07:30]
Chaang-Noi god damn i feel old [07:30]
mircea_popescu pretty much nobody left there, i mean past month or so i beebn asking friends i knew used to be huge sa buffs [07:30]
mircea_popescu everyone's like "meh. haven't been there in X years" [07:30]
Chaang-Noi yeah like 11 or 12 for me [07:30]
Chaang-Noi and i was not there much, only cuz i new the core group in real life [07:31]
Chaang-Noi on 9-11 the got a photo of a guy on the towers with the airplane behing about to crash played on cnn [07:31]
Chaang-Noi clearly it was photos shopped but they showed it like 3 times, was fucking lol [07:32]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136375753737.jpg big ass, tiny crack. [07:32]
Chaang-Noi http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJke78SUlRN0QA0T6JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dphoto%2B9-11%2Bairplane%2Bcrash%2Bphotoshopped%2Btower%26n%3D30%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DSearch%26fr%3Dsfp%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D55&w=500&h=345&imgurl=farm4.staticflickr.com%2F3141%2F2843928473_44b84d75bd.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F24345182%40N03%2F28439284 [07:33]
Chaang-Noi 73%2F&size=83.4+KB&name=Recent+Photos+The+Commons+Getty+Collection+Galleries+World+Map+App+...&p=photo+9-11+airplane+crash+photoshopped+tower&oid=bd885a2e00be7a839184d95acdb7ea93&fr2=&fr=sfp&tt=Recent%2BPhotos%2BThe%2BCommons%2BGetty%2BCollection%2BGalleries%2BWorld%2BMap%2BApp%2B...&b=31&ni=220&no=55&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=11lsq5c30&sigb=14bcp79hb&sigi=11lt5ct6m&.crumb=xXUGtlVbO1d this one [07:33]
Chaang-Noi holy shit that link... [07:33]
bgupta Curious are ASICMINER shares (and passthroughs) traded anywhere other than btct.co, bitfunder and bitcointalk's forums? [07:34]
mircea_popescu not rly. [07:34]
bgupta volume is really low.. is that this equity, or are most btc denominated equities low volume? [07:35]
mircea_popescu bgupta s.dice saw > 10k btc on ipo day [07:35]
mircea_popescu this was just mismanaged into the ground. [07:35]
bgupta well IPO is a bit different.. [07:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-] [07:36]
mircea_popescu actually, s.bbet saw more volume at launch than asicminer [07:36]
Namworld There was a S.DICE IPO? [07:36]
Chaang-Noi for now asicminer is one of the more active stocks [07:36]
pigeons bgupta: most are low, yeah s.dice s.mpoe are exceptions [07:36]
mircea_popescu Namworld back in august [07:36]
Chaang-Noi there is a lot of volume you cant see cuz otc [07:36]
pigeons you dont remember the s.dice ipo? [07:36]
bgupta Chaang-Noi: otc as in irc otc? [07:36]
Chaang-Noi no [07:37]
pigeons ;;seen usagi [07:37]
gribble usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 19 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: http://howestreet.com/2013/01/platinum-overtakes-gold-at-last/ [07:37]
Chaang-Noi as in people trading via pms with each other and fried cat [07:37]
Namworld Oh, sorry, I thought another block from owners were dumped or something [07:37]
Chaang-Noi i have traded 5000 shares alone in the last 2 weeks [07:37]
bgupta err, so how do they connect other than forums? [07:37]
Chaang-Noi find a guy who wants to sell, agree to price, tell friedcat [07:37]
mircea_popescu bgupta one doesn't, mostly. it's jsut the empty chatter of whatever. [07:37]
Chaang-Noi ill sell for the right price, what are you qwilling to pay and how many? [07:37]
mircea_popescu i've been promised shares to short for what, two weeks now. [07:38]
Chaang-Noi you never ask me mp, what terms do you have? [07:38]
mircea_popescu something similar to last time i'd guess [07:38]
Chaang-Noi i dont know about last time [07:39]
Chaang-Noi you shorted it before? you must have lost massivly [07:39]
mircea_popescu nah actually i made btc on that deal. [07:39]
Chaang-Noi shorting a stock that goes up 8005, still makes money, you are my new god:) [07:39]
mircea_popescu anyway, 6 months, 1% per month over dividends paid, we'll have to lock it to an exchange as i don't deal in vapour [07:39]
Chaang-Noi 800% [07:39]
mircea_popescu what sort of volume can you push ? [07:40]
Chaang-Noi 1% is not worth me locking it down for 6 months [07:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1190 @ 0.00070626 = 0.8404 BTC [-] [07:40]
Chaang-Noi that is not worth the risk the exchange just might do a glbse [07:41]
mircea_popescu but if you are holding the shares... [07:41]
Chaang-Noi i trust friedcat a lot, some of the exchanges, not as much [07:41]
mircea_popescu then you're getting the same dividends but no % [07:41]
pigeons the operators are all here, which one don't you trust? [07:42]
pigeons what if it gets listed on the fan club? [07:42]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi you can pick the venue for all i care. [07:42]
Chaang-Noi having the stocks stored with a 3rd party adds more risk, and i dont think that risk is worth the 1% i would get [07:42]
mircea_popescu that's a sad indictment of the various exchanges i guess [07:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.82 = 1.64 BTC [-] [07:43]
Chaang-Noi i understand mp, and i think some have less risk than others, but im going to pass. i think i can make more money buying and selling them. thanks for the offer however. [07:43]
ThickAsThieves 1% is too low for anything in bitcoin right now [07:43]
mircea_popescu anyway, bgupta, point in case. when i say "mismanaged into the ground" this is exactly what i mean. [07:43]
Chaang-Noi glbse did not last 100 months :) [07:43]
mircea_popescu trade can't occur because asicminer doesn't have or understand financial management. [07:43]
Chaang-Noi trade is hard with asicminer, but most holders dont care as much, [07:44]
Chaang-Noi i was able to sell 5kshares and buy about 3k shares with little trouble [07:44]
Chaang-Noi friedcat has been very good about trades [07:44]
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kakobrekla well thees a read [07:48]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155230.0 [07:48]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [07:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.10000, Best ask: 59.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 59.29999, 24 hour volume: 104802.48103137, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 56.94039 [07:48]
mircea_popescu uh [07:49]
mircea_popescu bugpowder didn't say a word in here about it ?! [07:49]
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pigeons "The only thing I ask is that, since this is a paid service, you not share the data in public (i.e. in a forum post) or something like that." [07:50]
pigeons oh and re: coinlab [07:51]
pigeons We'll have everyone moved over by March 22! [07:51]
pigeons riiight [07:51]
mircea_popescu pigeons quote from ? [07:52]
pigeons the first one, a PM from usagi about the TU.SILVER books he is sending [07:53]
pigeons the second one from Vessenes [07:54]
mircea_popescu March 21st, the first day of spring! Rebirth! Rejuvenation! [07:54]
pigeons they should make it april 1 [07:54]
BingoBoingo TU.SILVER is that another underdocumented mess? [07:54]
Chaang-Noi :) [07:55]
mircea_popescu messinprogress [07:55]
mircea_popescu pigeons o but they will. [07:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.99 = 3.98 BTC [-] [07:57]
Namworld TU.SILVER is overpriced. Anyone want to sell me some at the correct value? [07:58]
Namworld The one were price is more like value implied by silver held for it? [07:58]
pigeons that would also be overpriced, because it doesn't include the usagi factor [07:59]
mircea_popescu totally. [07:59]
mircea_popescu i'd sell an indefinite ammount of anything usagi makes at its nominal value. [07:59]
Namworld I don’t care. I got puts on it. I’d exercise them with my TU.SILVER [08:00]
pigeons can we send him silver and get shares? [08:00]
Namworld Maybe [08:00]
Namworld I love these new options. I can finally buy for a fraction shares rights to buy/sell something. [08:01]
Namworld Perfect when I expect price movements [08:01]
* mircea_popescu imagines the film of this. knock on a door in some dorm somewhere [08:01]
mircea_popescu here's your 1.85 tons of silver. [08:01]
Namworld I CAN FINALLY SHORT WHAT I WANT! [08:01]
mircea_popescu Namworld this will end in tears. [08:01]
BingoBoingo Aren't the asks on TU.SIlver all showing a hefty premium over actual silver+shipping? [08:01]
pigeons yes [08:01]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo 82 dollars per oz [08:01]
mircea_popescu vs 29 irl [08:01]
Chaang-Noi any bids? [08:02]
pigeons yes [08:03]
pigeons heh 1.5 btc worth of bids [08:04]
Namworld mircea: why? [08:04]
mircea_popescu Namworld suppose i buy 1k worth of silver pseudoasset puts [08:05]
mircea_popescu when its time to pay up, where does the btc come from ? [08:05]
Namworld It’s all reserved [08:05]
Namworld It must be deposited and put aside by Bitfunder. I trust Ukto, not the put seller [08:06]
mircea_popescu so unless someone is willing to reserve a shitton of btc i can't buy my puts ? [08:06]
mircea_popescu how's this an improvement ? [08:06]
Namworld You have to reserve enough BTC to fill the puts/calls when writing them. [08:06]
Namworld enough BTC or shares [08:06]
Namworld When you execute, it’s at strike on the option. [08:07]
mircea_popescu so can i buy 1k puts on that thing atm ? [08:07]
Namworld No seller. [08:07]
Namworld of puts [08:07]
mircea_popescu so then... no improvement. [08:07]
Namworld no, there is good puts/calls being placed. But they’re being bought. [08:08]
mircea_popescu i thought from what you said there's actually liquidity in options mkt [08:08]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu I think you flipped it, silver is closer to $28/oz last I checed TU.silver had asks at 0.14BTC/Share for an ambiguous definition of share... [08:08]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo 1/10 of an oz [08:08]
Namworld It just got out. Not much liquidity yet. [08:08]
Namworld People will get around to use it more. [08:08]
pigeons ;;calc ([ticker --last] * 0.14 * 10) - 28.92 [08:10]
gribble 52.840042 [08:10]
pigeons ;;calc ([ticker --last] * 0.14 * 10) [08:10]
gribble 81.760042 [08:10]
Namworld Huge premium on those [08:10]
Namworld Way over their price [08:11]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu Do they sell silver that small or is there a swing people aren't showing... Coinabul shows 0.5 BTC for an once of silver... I think Usagi is awfully bullish or lubed numbers up to extract them from a convenient place [08:12]
mircea_popescu let me get the discussion on forum [08:12]
mircea_popescu it's funny at least [08:12]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1641634#msg1641634 [08:13]
pigeons BingoBoingo: you can buy a pre 1964 us dime pretty much anywhere for $2.50 usd [08:13]
pigeons http://www.coinflation.com/coins/1946-1964-Silver-Roosevelt-Dime-Value.html [08:13]
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pigeons BingoBoingo: usagi is special [08:14]
BingoBoingo pigeons I might have noticed, the question seems to be how special... [08:16]
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pigeons quite special [08:16]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu I do like how accessing his books costs a full share... [08:17]
pigeons we have the books on the way [08:18]
pigeons they were on his bitvps [08:18]
mircea_popescu ya well... i do like how the price of exposing scams is going down [08:18]
mircea_popescu harnett cost me 500 btc. [08:18]
BingoBoingo Oooohhh... [08:19]
mircea_popescu of course... in relative terms... 500 btc to blow a 50k+ scam [08:19]
mircea_popescu vs .14 btc to blow a 5 btc scam... [08:20]
mircea_popescu heh. i guess maybe im deluding myself. [08:20]
mircea_popescu http://www.cyprusexpat.co.uk/blog/read/id:3160/germany-warns-cyprus-that-banks-may-never-open-again [08:20]
mircea_popescu who was asking me earlier what's it mean for cyprus ? benkay ? [08:20]
Chaang-Noi banks never open again, omfg [08:20]
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BingoBoingo What happened every other time Germany got bullish on how to tell the rest of Europe how to do business? [08:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00070739 = 1.1665 BTC [+] [08:22]
Namworld So. How about we roll out that latest version of the Earth? What’s it called? Ah yeah, Apocalypse. [08:22]
Namworld And get done with that [08:22]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo has nothing to do with germany tho [08:24]
BingoBoingo I was just thinking Germany tried to tell people how to bank three times and then they started hiding behind Belgium... [08:24]
mircea_popescu cyprus banks owe money. [08:24]
BingoBoingo Sure mircea_popescu Cyprus banks owe money. Largely on Greek debt among other bad Euro debts. It is just Germany seems to like playing Euro enforcer now that everyone else has made them throw away the sharp objects [08:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9191 @ 0.00070626 = 6.4912 BTC [-] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26 @ 0.00070542 = 0.0183 BTC [-] [08:36]
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Chaang-Noi how can the euro last? [08:37]
Chaang-Noi it just seems so fucked up, these small nations just dont give a fuck cuz they are in so far into debt they are meh anyway [08:37]
pigeons euro investing in tu.silver [08:37]
Chaang-Noi oh, well then never mind:) [08:38]
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vfvfxfzx euro is fucked [08:39]
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pigeons if we don't get these tu.silver books maybe we can get a scammer tag [08:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.99 BTC [-] [08:41]
Chaang-Noi if you paid for it, and he does not have them then yeah, seems about right [08:42]
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Chaang-Noi what type of cpu chip would be best for "laoding block index" on a linux computer and doing so quickly [08:46]
Chaang-Noi checking old wallets for ltc/btc takes forever just to open [08:46]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: hrm [08:49]
pigeons ok no more rapidshare or megaupload where do i put a spreadsheet [08:49]
Diablo-D3 well, swithcing to bitcoin 0.8.0 helps a LOT there [08:49]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: but you'd be better off with a Bulldozer family CPU (any will do, even the new ones) [08:50]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: but bitcoin 0.8.0 checks chains in parallel with multiple threads, and it also uses a lot less disk IO to do it [08:50]
BingoBoingo The best CPU for loading the block index now depends on what version of bitcoin-qt you are using Chaang-Noi [08:50]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: as for LTC, dunno what to tell you, they should just merge 0.8.0 changes in [08:51]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: not really [08:51]
Diablo-D3 AMD has superior single threaded integer performance [08:51]
Chaang-Noi lets assume i use 0.8.2 or whatever the newest btc is [08:51]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: then you're already going as fast as you can [08:51]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: you're limited at disk io [08:51]
Chaang-Noi so SSD? [08:52]
Diablo-D3 yeah [08:52]
Diablo-D3 a high IOPS SSD would help [08:52]
Chaang-Noi btc wallets work well with SSD? [08:52]
Diablo-D3 it doens't need to have a lot of raw throughput [08:52]
BingoBoingo The old 0.7.2+ would probably load fastest on an i7 because BDB doesn't parallelize well, 0.8.X and later on an AMD chip I imagine; an SSD makes a bigger bifference than any processor though [08:52]
Diablo-D3 SSDs work well with everything [08:52]
Diablo-D3 the whole writing to death thing has long since been a pile of bullshit [08:52]
Chaang-Noi i liketo use encrypted drives, and i know SSD sucks for encryption safety [08:52]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: except thats wrong [08:52]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: Bulldozers have four integer ALUs per core [08:53]
BingoBoingo SSD is good with encryption if you start it encrypted [08:53]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: SSD works fine for encryption [08:53]
Chaang-Noi so when i load the OS just do full disk on a ssd and im fine? [08:53]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: the problem is it can't do automatic TRIM on its own [08:53]
BingoBoingo sure Diable-D3, but BDB doesn't scale over multiple cores very well [08:53]
Diablo-D3 you NEED to use an OS that does TRIM [08:53]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: I didnt say multiple cores. [08:53]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: I said multiple ALU [08:53]
Chaang-Noi like mint 13? [08:53]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: any modern linux [08:54]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: or osx on apple blessed drives [08:54]
Diablo-D3 or windows 7 or newer [08:54]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: the filesystem on linux will be the problem though [08:54]
BingoBoingo Anything past Debian 6.0 is fine for SSD encrypted Linux [08:54]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: you'll need to use ext4 [08:54]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: unless you shove btrfs on an encrypted lvm, which is kind of retarded [08:54]
Diablo-D3 and ZoL doesnt do encryption yet (and you need ubuntu to boot ZoL as well) [08:55]
Chaang-Noi oh lol what, i cant just used a standart install of mint 13 or 14? [08:55]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: depends entirely what mint uses by default [08:55]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: debian and ubuntu both can install ext4 to encrypted lvm at install time [08:55]
Chaang-Noi ok [08:56]
Diablo-D3 so I assume mint can as well [08:56]
Chaang-Noi ill get an ssd i guess, hell i might as well by a new laptop [08:56]
Diablo-D3 and the reason I say ext4 over ext3 is ext3 isn't optimized for TRIM [08:56]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: btw, OSX does support full encryption out of the box [08:57]
Chaang-Noi i dont do apple [08:57]
Diablo-D3 so if you're into getting a new laptop, mbp retinas arent so bad [08:57]
Diablo-D3 I dont do apple either, but I needed one for software dev reasons [08:57]
Diablo-D3 and I cant say I hate the hardware. [08:57]
Chaang-Noi ill get an asus unltra book with an i7 and the awesome screen [08:57]
Chaang-Noi with the ssd and windows 8, then nuke windows 8 [08:57]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: anyhow, what I was saying is, its not that BDB doesn't do parallel thats the issue [08:58]
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Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: its that 0.7.x and earlier doesn't use threads to check the chain in parallel [08:58]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: BDB is disk IO limited, not CPU limited [08:58]
Diablo-D3 you most likely wont peak on one core with BDB anyways [08:59]
Diablo-D3 0.8.0 introduced both leveldb and threaded chain checking [08:59]
Diablo-D3 so now it will happily saturate all cores IF your disk can keep up [08:59]
Diablo-D3 and leveldb rapes disk IO much less than bdb [08:59]
Diablo-D3 that said, if you're on a single threaded integer app, Bulldozers will win [09:00]
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Diablo-D3 but it just doesn't matter, with bdb, your disk cant keep up [09:00]
BingoBoingo Diablo-D3 the single integer ALU BDB will try to lock into probably won't keep up either... [09:02]
BingoBoingo I'm not talking core in the marketing sense [09:02]
Diablo-D3 I'm talking core in the core sense [09:02]
Diablo-D3 bulldozers are two hardware thread cores [09:02]
Diablo-D3 they're 4x integer ALU + 2x FP ALU [09:03]
Diablo-D3 on strongly integer tasks, they're quite fast [09:03]
BingoBoingo BDB tends to lock into the single smallest discrete uniti it can find to run it, BDB probably wont't use all of those cores Bulldozer is offering, but I would believe reputable benchmarks that say otherwise... [09:03]
BingoBoingo For BDB core most often will mean it latches onto one interger computing unit and will force itself through that. [09:05]
BingoBoingo BDB does this because it hates the idea of a future [09:05]
BingoBoingo Unles built with many special compiler flags any parallelization it might experience will be accidental [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00070542 = 1.1639 BTC [-] [09:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 95 @ 0.00442 = 0.4199 BTC [-] [09:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 290 @ 0.00441 = 1.2789 BTC [-] [09:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 500 @ 0.0044 = 2.2 BTC [-] [09:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [-] [09:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [-] [09:07]
Namworld urgh... S.DICE not doing well enough in my taste. [09:08]
pigeons ok no offense to coinabul, but usagi is buying his silver from there, i would think those premiums are not really suited for an investment fan club [09:08]
pigeons also the buying JAH shares is wtf [09:09]
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Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: I think you didn't listen to what I said [09:11]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: BDB nor bitcoin 0.7.x is multithreaded where it needs to be [09:11]
Diablo-D3 this is why instruction level parallelism is important [09:11]
Diablo-D3 but BDB uses so much disk IO to just read the db, that your CPU isn't the bottleneck [09:12]
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Bowjob http://bitbet.us/bet/11/mpex-listing-bonanza/ [09:12]
Bowjob Lol wtf?? [09:12]
BingoBoingo Depends on the disk, but I believe Goat aksed about the best processor... Bowjob I was one of the winners on that BitBet... [09:13]
Bowjob huh [09:13]
BingoBoingo Bowjob I was the bet from 1Magr on http://bitbet.us/bet/11/mpex-listing-bonanza/ so I won my fair weighted portion... [09:15]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo: goat asked how to get it to go faster [09:15]
Chaang-Noi yeah i want faster [09:15]
Diablo-D3 BingoBoingo:he was just mistaken that the cpu greatly factors in on this [09:16]
BingoBoingo Ah, then yeah... Keep on a LevelDB version of maintain the blockchain on a fast SSD, one in a PCI-e slot for best performance. [09:17]
Diablo-D3 pci-e slot SSDs don't magically get more performance [09:17]
Diablo-D3 not for that cost, anyways [09:17]
Bowjob Oh yeah, i did a tx today, it seemed quite fast [09:18]
Diablo-D3 and theres still problems with Linux support for some of them [09:18]
Chaang-Noi for ssd?? [09:19]
BingoBoingo On PCI-e, but normal SATA is safe [09:20]
Chaang-Noi d3 can i buy any of the new asus ultrabooks and have it run mint14 fine? [09:20]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: we're talking about pci-e ones [09:20]
Diablo-D3 not SATA/SAS [09:20]
Diablo-D3 sata/sas ones are supported fine, they're normal devices [09:20]
Bowjob ;;ticker [09:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.55015, Best ask: 58.57000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01985, Last trade: 58.57000, 24 hour volume: 108368.69380536, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.15651 [09:20]
Bowjob theres the correction [09:21]
Bowjob 4 bucks off of the ATH [09:21]
Bowjob I hope we chill here for a bit.. kinda like calm before the shitstorm before moving into 70s [09:21]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [09:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 58.50001, Best ask: 58.55014, Bid-ask spread: 0.05013, Last trade: 58.55014, 24 hour volume: 108233.45685213, 24 hour low: 51.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.16941 [09:22]
Chaang-Noi taht ath has some guy doing a market order with 500k usd... we are still above what he started buying at... [09:22]
mircea_popescu vwap still under spot [09:23]
Bowjob i hope hes a strong hand [09:23]
Bowjob not some rich kids of instagram kid [09:23]
pigeons i still laugh every time i come acroos [09:27]
pigeons http://picturesofpeoplescanningqrcodes.tumblr.com/ [09:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009875 = 0.0988 BTC [-] [09:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.009874 = 0.1481 BTC [-] [09:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [+] [09:31]
Bowjob oh, weve reached 65 on cavirtex [09:32]
Namworld pigeons: I don’t get it. [09:32]
Namworld Bowjob: Canadian? [09:32]
Diablo-D3 hrm [09:32]
pigeons No posts yet [09:32]
Diablo-D3 I think I might consider starting a SD competitor [09:32]
Bowjob yeap [09:32]
pigeons hahaha [09:32]
Bowjob i just look at cavirtex. too many fucking rules [09:33]
Bowjob fees, limits, blah blah [09:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 35 @ 0.009874 = 0.3456 BTC [-] [09:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.009873 = 0.0987 BTC [-] [09:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 6 @ 0.009842 = 0.0591 BTC [-] [09:33]
Chaang-Noi d3, ill pay you to make one for me in ltc :) [09:33]
Namworld I don’t like cavirtex much [09:33]
Bowjob i want a simple exchange. transfer money -> buy btc, withraw [09:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+] [09:34]
Diablo-D3 the problem with SD is it doesn't do a huge pot [09:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009842 BTC [-] [09:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009842 BTC [-] [09:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+] [09:35]
Bowjob those cypriots.. i assume they will deal in EUR [09:35]
Bowjob so we might see the action in euro [09:35]
Chaang-Noi d3 we can do sd with ltc but have each one also have like 1 in a billion shot at 100k ltc :) [09:35]
Diablo-D3 yes but what about this [09:36]
Diablo-D3 every satoshi is a ticket [09:36]
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Chaang-Noi yeah that is good [09:36]
Diablo-D3 so one jackpot [09:36]
Diablo-D3 and all the money that goes into the jackpot stays there except, say, 1% [09:36]
Bowjob someones dumping [09:37]
Chaang-Noi oh you want to do that by itself, [09:37]
Bowjob im watching the action on coinlab [09:37]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: yeah [09:37]
Chaang-Noi bowjob all day these spikes of sells, someone is dumping with out killing the market [09:37]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: have like a 1 in a trillion chance of winning [09:37]
Chaang-Noi :) [09:37]
Diablo-D3 the pot could go up to thousands of btc [09:38]
Namworld 10k on average [09:39]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: er? [09:39]
Namworld Assuming one winner every 1 trillion, pot should reach an average of 10k BTC [09:40]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: I mean as in 1:1trillion per 1 BTC [09:40]
Diablo-D3 since every satoshi is an attempt [09:40]
Diablo-D3 I might not have the right magnitude [09:40]
Diablo-D3 it'll be out of a 512 bit space [09:41]
Namworld 1 chance on a trillion per BTC? [09:41]
Diablo-D3 yeah [09:41]
Namworld We’ll run out of BTC... [09:41]
tiberiusiv whats wrong with cavirtex? [09:42]
Diablo-D3 I'll even seed the pot with 100 BTC [09:42]
Namworld tiberiusiv: fees... fucking 3% for new accounts [09:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.858995 = 8.59 BTC [+] [09:42]
Namworld You mean 1:1 trillion per satoshi... [09:42]
Namworld odds [09:43]
tiberiusiv namworld: who do you use to cashout? [09:43]
Diablo-D3 no [09:43]
Namworld tiberiusiv: cavirtex [09:43]
Namworld usually [09:43]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: 1 satoshi would be one in 1:2^512th odds [09:43]
Namworld But... how do you determine the winner? [09:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.859 = 1.718 BTC [+] [09:43]
Diablo-D3 the way the rest are [09:44]
Namworld You can’t have a 1:1 trillion chance to win for a BTC [09:44]
Diablo-D3 take txid, hash it, then take the first x bytes and see if its less than the taget [09:44]
Diablo-D3 *target [09:44]
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Namworld so odds of winning is not 1:1 trillion [09:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.84 BTC [-] [09:45]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: no, I said I probably got the magnitude wrong [09:45]
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Diablo-D3 derp [09:51]
Bowjob *yawn [09:51]
Bowjob to $100 [09:51]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: okay what about each satoshi is a 1 in 15 quaturovigintillion change? [09:52]
Diablo-D3 er chance [09:52]
Diablo-D3 thats 2^256 [09:52]
Diablo-D3 2^128 is 340 undecillion [09:53]
Namworld That can’t work... [09:53]
Namworld or I’m missing something [09:53]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: an extremely low chance. [09:54]
Diablo-D3 2^64 is 18 quintillion [09:54]
Namworld like with those odds, one would bet 21 million BTC and have lower odds to win than winning the state lottery 5 times in a row. [09:54]
Diablo-D3 and theres 8 places in 1 BTC [09:54]
Diablo-D3 so move 18 over 8 places [09:54]
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Diablo-D3 so 1 BTC would be 180 billion chance [09:55]
Diablo-D3 no wait I did that wrong [09:55]
Diablo-D3 1.8 trillion [09:55]
Namworld You could bet all freaking 21 BTC and have as good as null chances to win the jackpot... [09:57]
Namworld 21 million BTC* [09:57]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: no different than powerball really [09:59]
Namworld powerball would have like close to infinite higher chances to win [10:00]
Diablo-D3 184,467,440,737 per btc [10:01]
Diablo-D3 so 184 billion [10:01]
Namworld uh? [10:02]
Diablo-D3 2**64 / 100000000 [10:02]
Namworld ok, so 1/2**64 per satoshi [10:03]
Diablo-D3 yes [10:03]
Namworld ;;calc 2**64/21000000*100000000 [10:04]
gribble 87841638446235959296 [10:04]
Namworld erhm [10:04]
Diablo-D3 I dont think you wrote what you thought you wrote [10:04]
Namworld ;;calc 2**64/(21000000*100000000) [10:04]
gribble 8784.16384462 [10:04]
Diablo-D3 powerball jackpot is 1 in 175 million [10:05]
Namworld I bet 1 BTC (58 USD) for one ticket. [10:05]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: you bet 1 BTC for 100000000 tickets, actually [10:05]
Anduck whos been buying btc? [10:06]
Namworld I could get 21 million x 58 USD ticket and have a 1/8784 odds of winning a maximum of... 21 million BTC. [10:06]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: well [10:06]
Diablo-D3 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible [10:06]
Diablo-D3 i184 billion per btc is if the difficulty is less than 1 [10:06]
Diablo-D3 if I set it to less than 1000 ,its 184 million [10:07]
mircea_popescu topace_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155238.0 [10:07]
Namworld yeah, but that’s like zero incentive for first people to put anything. [10:07]
Namworld The odds are way too low. [10:07]
Diablo-D3 [04:05:05] powerball jackpot is 1 in 175 million [10:07]
Namworld They’re like infinitely lower on what you propose... [10:08]
Namworld ;;calc 21000000*8784 [10:09]
gribble 184464000000 [10:09]
Namworld 1/184 billion if I bet a whole BTC [10:09]
Diablo-D3 yes, I already said that [10:09]
Diablo-D3 [04:06:38] 184 billion is if I set the difficulty as high as possible [10:09]
Diablo-D3 [04:06:59] i184 billion per btc is if the difficulty is less than 1 [10:09]
Diablo-D3 [04:07:08] if I set it to less than 1000 ,its 184 million [10:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 11 @ 1.999 = 21.989 BTC [+] [10:09]
Namworld Odds too low unless difficulty go down. Not interesting for anyone to bet. [10:10]
Namworld Especially since the jackpot is small too [10:10]
Namworld The two combines and urgh... [10:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00425 = 0.0425 BTC [+] [10:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 160 @ 0.004231 = 0.677 BTC [-] [10:14]
Diablo-D3 fine, have the difficulty go up as the pot goes up [10:14]
Namworld Wouldn’t be a bad idea like that. Would make more sense. [10:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.004217 = 0.0843 BTC [-] [10:15]
Chaang-Noi if i accidently deleat a file on linux, how do i get it back? [10:15]
Namworld But difficulty should probably cap as to avoid ever lowering odds and never reaching jackpot. [10:15]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: yeah, cap is one in 1000 [10:16]
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zefir Chaang: if you did that, it will be challenging to undelete them. first thing you need to do is shutting system down to prevent further write accesses [10:17]
Namworld Anyway, getting late. I’ll be off. [10:18]
Namworld But it does seem better with difficulty increase with pot somewhat. [10:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3701 @ 0.00070542 = 2.6108 BTC [-] [10:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2599 @ 0.00070356 = 1.8286 BTC [-] [10:19]
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pigeons difficulty increases with pot, but it seems easier [10:19]
pigeons :) [10:19]
Diablo-D3 well [10:19]
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Diablo-D3 I wonder if theres a block chain info site that can give me a total list of all money sent to an address [10:20]
pigeons are you being sarcastic [10:21]
pigeons you'll never guess the name [10:21]
pigeons blockchain.info [10:22]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: no, I dont mean blockchain.info [10:22]
Diablo-D3 it doesnt seem to do it [10:22]
pigeons i just tested [10:22]
pigeons "Total Received" [10:22]
Diablo-D3 orly it can? HRM [10:22]
Diablo-D3 blockchain.info doesn't have a json api does it [10:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42 = 0.84 BTC [+] [10:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.415 = 4.565 BTC [-] [10:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.412 = 0.824 BTC [-] [10:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.411 = 1.644 BTC [-] [10:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.41020001 BTC [-] [10:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @ 0.4102 = 4.9224 BTC [-] [10:24]
pigeons http://blockchain.info/api/blockchain_api [10:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 1.999 = 11.994 BTC [+] [10:24]
Chaang-Noi oh lol [10:25]
Chaang-Noi d3, welsome to bitcoin and the internet :) [10:25]
Chaang-Noi bbl guys, [10:26]
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Diablo-D3 pigeons: that should be easy to setup with js then [10:26]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [+] [10:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] [10:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8001 @ 0.00070739 = 5.6598 BTC [+] [10:47]
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mircea_popescu so banks/tv/etc in south korea offline due to cyber attack [10:51]
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dub so ronery [10:53]
mircea_popescu lol [10:54]
mircea_popescu "Re: New BTC Found" [10:54]
mircea_popescu person can't spell fund, is big time mover and shaker with experience and etc. [10:55]
mircea_popescu "If anyone is interested in buying securities that copy the MPEx dividend payouts but do not involve any dealings with the actual MPEx shares (such as share loans, etc.), PM me. About 1 million will be issued if there is demand. If issued, the securities will be backed by an incorporated company with EUR 200,000 total assets, of which 1500 BTC." [10:57]
mircea_popescu another one [10:57]
mircea_popescu god help us. [10:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24994 BTC [+] [11:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00479 = 0.0096 BTC [+] [11:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0168 BTC [+] [11:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 624 @ 0.00381798 = 2.3824 BTC [-] [11:42]
pigeons mpex bucket shop [11:44]
mircea_popescu http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/m34359/1123191333.gif [11:45]
mircea_popescu "No, it is not. It is just the thing that we offer people to bet for. And I would be delighted to know what exactly makes us any more vulnerable to angry gov that MPEx and SD are." [11:46]
mircea_popescu this guy is actually pretty amusing. [11:46]
mircea_popescu an usagi challenger appears. [11:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7704 @ 0.00072562 = 5.5902 BTC [+] [11:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0168 BTC [+] [12:05]
mircea_popescu X.IDIFF.MAR settled. [12:06]
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mircea_popescu symbol now trades for 2014 delivery. [12:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1857 @ 0.00072143 = 1.3397 BTC [-] [12:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2214 @ 0.00072562 = 1.6065 BTC [+] [12:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.0007314 = 6.5095 BTC [+] [12:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8559 BTC [+] [12:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.856 = 12.84 BTC [+] [12:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8569 BTC [+] [12:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.857 = 5.142 BTC [+] [12:26]
Chaang-Noi http://www.activistpost.com/2013/03/cyprus-bank-raid-bitcoins.html [12:29]
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tiberiusiv http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/20/south-korean-computer-crash/2001873/ [12:33]
mircea_popescu yeah [12:35]
pigeons revenge for gangam style [12:35]
Chaang-Noi lol [12:38]
Chaang-Noi if only that were true [12:38]
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mjr_ hi [12:56]
mjr_ anyone up? [12:56]
Diablo-D3 no. [12:57]
mjr_ lol [12:57]
mjr_ mircea_popescu: I'm so glad that trilema is back up...lots of good articles [12:57]
mircea_popescu mjr_ :) [12:58]
mjr_ i can't do the bitcointalk forum [12:58]
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mjr_ mircea_popescu: how do i get credits? [13:00]
mjr_ really want to read the stego article [13:01]
mjr_ i have been sending my friends pictures of cats with encrypted messages in them [13:01]
mircea_popescu lol [13:01]
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mjr_ ;;ticker [13:04]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.11710, Best ask: 59.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.13290, Last trade: 59.11710, 24 hour volume: 106528.71037829, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.47445 [13:04]
mjr_ is there anyone working on a chrome plugin that could be used to pay bitcoins to websites? [13:09]
Diablo-D3 mjr_: you wouldnt need that actually [13:09]
Diablo-D3 you could do it with a bitcoin:// url [13:09]
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mjr_ "Actually, if you don’t know anything about talking to computers my best advice to you is “marry someone who does”. Definitely." worth the price of admission [13:13]
mjr_ Diablo-D3: if you have a client installed i guess? [13:14]
mjr_ i was just thinking of mircea's model [13:14]
mjr_ if you could automate that process...make it a click that a plugin handles behind the scenes [13:14]
mjr_ like you would "fund" your browser...and then you would browse away to your hearts content, offering up micropayments for content that you want [13:15]
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Diablo-D3 the problem with a browser is you'd need to have it running all the time [13:16]
mjr_ i don't think so... [13:16]
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mjr_ it would simply be an address that is monitored [13:17]
mjr_ similar to blockchain.info [13:17]
mircea_popescu pigeons did you share that book with an interested party ? [13:22]
pigeons yes i did [13:25]
pigeons which shouldn't violate my agreement not to post it publically, bu i dont know [13:26]
mircea_popescu hang on im ordering my gilded popcorn [13:27]
pigeons waiting for his post [13:29]
pigeons oh i see it [13:29]
pigeons yeah i doubt he'll give me any more copies [13:31]
mircea_popescu awww [13:31]
pigeons surely he expected that [13:32]
pigeons :) [13:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 11850 @ 0.004 = 47.4 BTC [+] [13:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.004 = 1.6 BTC [+] [13:57]
Chaang-Noi seems low? [13:58]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [13:58]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00381798 / 0.00427895 / 0.005 (75762 shares, 324.18 BTC), 7D: 0.00381798 / 0.00469793 / 0.00599987 (147519 shares, 693.04 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00603657 / 0.0069 (2351124 shares, 14,192.73 BTC) [13:58]
mircea_popescu yup came down a fair bit. [13:58]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+] [14:04]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc pajka.bond [14:05]
assbot [BTCT:PAJKA.BOND] 1D: 0.104999 / 0.105 / 0.105 (81 shares, 8.5 BTC), 7D: 0.08001 / 0.10242 / 0.10999 (1286 shares, 131.7 BTC), 30D: 0.01552 / 0.10177 / 0.10999 (1564 shares, 159.2 BTC) [14:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00074863 = 5.727 BTC [+] [14:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 12075 @ 0.004 = 48.3 BTC [+] [14:10]
mircea_popescu $depth s.dice [14:10]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1700 @ 0.00393432', '300 @ 0.0038', '1000 @ 0.00355004', '5034 @ 0.003198', '13530 @ 0.00311001'] [14:10]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['93037 @ 0.004', '141 @ 0.00480598', '201 @ 0.005', '6623 @ 0.0051', '2000 @ 0.00577'] [14:10]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+] [14:15]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155283.0 wat [14:21]
dub ;;calc 400*[ticker --last] [14:22]
gribble 23715.932 [14:22]
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davout yo [14:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.004 = 4 BTC [+] [14:23]
mircea_popescu yo! [14:23]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153742.msg1646636#msg1646636 bombshell lol [14:24]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [14:25]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.30000, Best ask: 59.49998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19998, Last trade: 59.29983, 24 hour volume: 104385.36260976, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.59737 [14:25]
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ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [14:30]
gribble Current Blocks: 226924 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 883 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 19 hours, 10 minutes, and 26 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6187365.50681 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.63647 [14:30]
mjr_ ;;ticker [14:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.20002, Best ask: 59.30983, Bid-ask spread: 0.10981, Last trade: 59.30983, 24 hour volume: 104205.20199766, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 57.60493 [14:32]
mjr_ ;;calc (57.60493-41)/57.60493 [14:32]
gribble 0.288255362866 [14:32]
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kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [14:59]
gribble Current Blocks: 226929 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 878 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 18 hours, 31 minutes, and 18 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6197165.1884 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.83862 [14:59]
kakobrekla so [15:05]
kakobrekla this guy is "gonna eat MPEX for lunch" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153742.0 [15:06]
kakobrekla too big for breakfast? [15:06]
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mircea_popescu is this a new one ? [15:07]
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kakobrekla dunno [15:11]
kakobrekla but he has a tie. [15:11]
mircea_popescu a ok then [15:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 100 @ 0.004 = 0.4 BTC [+] [15:13]
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mjr_ lol binary options [15:16]
mjr_ otherwise known as the slot machines of finance [15:16]
kakobrekla :) [15:16]
mircea_popescu kinda scary how many peppy nuts are circling btc since > 50 [15:17]
mircea_popescu i shudder to think what will happen when 1000 [15:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 394 @ 0.00074863 = 0.295 BTC [+] [15:19]
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Chaang-Noi peppy nuts? [15:21]
mircea_popescu from pep. [15:22]
mircea_popescu overactive. [15:22]
Chaang-Noi oh? iv not seen to much of that [15:22]
Chaang-Noi some celibrtation sure [15:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8 @ 0.004 = 0.032 BTC [+] [15:22]
knotwork celibrex maybe [15:23]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0 [15:24]
mircea_popescu this is pretty good [15:24]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=153979.msg1647110#msg1647110 [15:24]
kakobrekla facepalm [15:24]
jurov i seriously consider offering my expertise to that finnish man.. and promptly outsource it to dunnowhere [15:25]
Bowjob meow [15:29]
mircea_popescu you mean the estonian ? [15:29]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla wait, so he wants to eat mpex for lunch by competing with bitbet ?! [15:33]
mircea_popescu wtf is all this nonsense! [15:33]
kakobrekla i thought it was sdice first [15:33]
mircea_popescu "- Of course the above would be moot if the spread was sky-high. We intend to push it as low as possible, and give you the best of both worlds - the liquidity of a market-maker but also the low spreads possible in a parimutuel or similar approach." [15:33]
mircea_popescu right. we're going to do anything and we have no plan whatsoever. [15:34]
kakobrekla dunno [15:34]
mircea_popescu sigh. [15:34]
Bowjob Avalon will now cost 88 BTC to 115 BTC [15:34]
Bowjob capitalizing on BFL's incompetence, same specs [15:34]
kakobrekla what? [15:34]
kakobrekla where did you pick that up [15:35]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.0 [15:35]
Bowjob there goes my fourth module [15:36]
kakobrekla they are fucked in the head [15:36]
Bowjob i wish I picked up 3 lol [15:36]
Bowjob in other news, sonny and josh are preparing to ship themselves out of town, apparently [15:37]
Bowjob https://blockchain.info/tx/eb1a3f97ac4579eb4edec99315fb44c9219bdbf7bc180abc5e09590ec93a2b71 [15:37]
mircea_popescu , The price will be obviously much higher than previous, based on the reasonable ROI. The price is 88 BTC to 115 BTC(31680 RMB to 41400 RMB) depending on configurations, freight charge not included. [15:37]
mircea_popescu i dion't get this part [15:37]
mircea_popescu obviously why ? [15:37]
kakobrekla obviously china [15:37]
Bowjob thye are pegging the price to yuan [15:37]
Bowjob instead of dollar [15:37]
Bowjob so 360 yuan = 1 btc [15:37]
Bowjob making the price around 5 grand, over [15:38]
mircea_popescu get to the obvious part tho [15:38]
kakobrekla they are stabbing themselfs in the face [15:38]
ThickAsThieves obvious that people will pay that much [15:38]
Bowjob they have monopoly on asics, go figure [15:38]
Bowjob bfl wont ship [15:38]
Bowjob ect [15:38]
mircea_popescu this is not how you get a monopoly. [15:38]
mircea_popescu bah. [15:38]
mircea_popescu everyone is either a scammer, stupid, or a stupid scammer. [15:39]
mircea_popescu hwo the fuck are we going to get anywhere :( [15:39]
Bowjob well, its apparent people will still pay for this.. [15:39]
ThickAsThieves they are mining with every machine for a while before they even ship it [15:39]
mircea_popescu sigh. [15:39]
ThickAsThieves they are raking in btc, they can do what they want i guess [15:39]
Bowjob its just asicminer vs avalon [15:39]
Bowjob until someone comes along [15:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00075613 = 2.4952 BTC [+] [15:39]
ThickAsThieves asicminer hashing is supposed to skyrocket in the next few weeks right? [15:40]
kakobrekla well [15:42]
kakobrekla avalon can go fuck themselfs [15:42]
BitHub agreed [15:43]
BitHub i've never seen so much greed so quickly in such a young industry [15:44]
BitHub this shit might burn out in 5 years [15:44]
Bowjob well, if they really are greedy, they wouldn't have shipped asics to the public [15:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 207 @ 0.004 = 0.828 BTC [+] [15:45]
Bowjob of course, there goes my plan for 5 more ASICS [15:46]
kakobrekla boxes should be getting cheaper not expenciver [15:46]
ThickAsThieves "Only a small amount of units will be shipped during late March to early April" [15:46]
kakobrekla its the other way around ngz. [15:46]
kakobrekla what a retard. [15:46]
mircea_popescu heh. [15:47]
mircea_popescu bitcoin needs an asic maker. [15:47]
jurov CoinBr.iDiff-O May will open soon, what collateral (max.feasible difficulty) are you seeing by May 22? [15:47]
ThickAsThieves why the hell doesnt AMD do it [15:47]
ThickAsThieves they are selling ass tons of GPUs to the sector [15:47]
ThickAsThieves even still for litecoin [15:47]
ThickAsThieves why not make some consumer cards for mining [15:48]
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Bowjob litecoin is unusually stable lately [15:48]
Bowjob 50 cents [15:48]
kakobrekla cause all the bitcoin ppl is an insignificat fraction [15:48]
Bowjob damn [15:48]
kakobrekla of their biz [15:48]
jurov AMD has year or so turnaround [15:48]
Bowjob and few people has heard of btc [15:48]
Bowjob we are actually the early adopters [15:49]
ThickAsThieves kako, how much $ do you think has been spent and will be spent on ASICS this year [15:49]
ThickAsThieves not enought o make AMD some money? [15:49]
kakobrekla nope [15:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250 @ 0.00075613 = 0.189 BTC [+] [15:49]
Bowjob those avalon asics.. they are compatible with NA sockets right [15:50]
Bowjob i wont need some chinese transformer [15:50]
kakobrekla NA? [15:51]
Bowjob north america [15:51]
Bowjob us and canada [15:51]
kakobrekla prolly [15:51]
zerokwel psu should be auto switching [15:51]
jurov wtf, they don't have detachable cord? [15:52]
zerokwel yepp standard kettle lead [15:52]
jurov http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/19/carna_botnet_ipv4_internet_map/ seems 420000 node botnet isn't so hard to build after all [15:55]
jurov mircea_popescu ^^^ [15:57]
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jurov guess that's ripe for worldwide ban to sell any hardware with preconfigured default password [15:58]
mircea_popescu ffs [15:59]
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Bowjob why do girls do this [16:02]
Bowjob http://i.imgur.com/msly2x0.jpg?1 [16:02]
BitHub attention [16:02]
ThickAsThieves tell her she's not ugly [16:03]
ThickAsThieves thats what she wants [16:03]
Bowjob I told her, looks don;t matter [16:03]
BitHub no [16:03]
BitHub tell her she's okey looking [16:03]
Bowjob heh, that must hurt [16:03]
BitHub but looks aren't the most important [16:03]
Bowjob "It's okay, looks aren't everything." [16:03]
Bowjob xD [16:04]
ThickAsThieves tell her its hard to tell with all those clothes on [16:04]
BitHub she'll be begging for your approval [16:04]
BitHub nicely played bow [16:04]
Bowjob of course. that was the perfect answer. [16:05]
BitHub yep [16:05]
mircea_popescu so is coinlab move complete ? [16:05]
BitHub yes operation destroy bitcoin is in play [16:05]
ThickAsThieves "'m hugely excited to announce to you that CoinLab will be teaming up with Mt. Gox and Silicon Valley Bank to provide Bitcoin purchase, sale and exchange services to customers in the U.S and Canada as of March 31, 2013." [16:06]
ThickAsThieves he has a big boner over this [16:06]
BitHub they were the only ones [16:06]
BitHub wasn't it a lie? Their press release [16:06]
ThickAsThieves a lie? [16:07]
BitHub isn't gox being pressured into this deal with coinlab? [16:07]
ThickAsThieves gox confirmed i think [16:07]
BitHub sorry i mean the whole wallstreet fluff [16:07]
ThickAsThieves you lost me [16:10]
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ThickAsThieves coinlab is taking over all of gox's US customers [16:10]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154722.0 this has all sorts of epic in it [16:10]
ThickAsThieves gox confirmed this in a short press release [16:10]
mircea_popescu pigeons ^ [16:10]
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Bowjob "Ok, people would take you more seriously if you meant what you said, just so you know. The offer is real though. Peace" -dank [16:11]
Bowjob I told dank I would give him 3 BTC for a motorcycle [16:11]
Bowjob he sends me an address, I told him, I already got one for 2 BTC. [16:11]
ThickAsThieves a $120 motorcycle? [16:11]
ThickAsThieves nice ride [16:11]
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Bowjob yeap [16:12]
Bowjob He's selling music festival passes now [16:14]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155359.msg1647154#msg1647154 [16:14]
Bowjob get yours today! [16:14]
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jurov ;;bc,stats [16:19]
gribble Current Blocks: 226941 | Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 | Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 | Next Difficulty In: 866 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6205279.45368 | Estimated Percent Change: 28.006 [16:19]
jurov uh oh [16:20]
jurov so i'll reap profit both from iDiff-O and from its bitbet hedge? lmao [16:21]
ThickAsThieves maybe avalon is pricing high because they want less work for the same money [16:29]
ThickAsThieves pruning clients [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4103 = 1.6412 BTC [+] [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4102 BTC [-] [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.4102 BTC [-] [16:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.41000001 = 4.1 BTC [-] [16:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.41 = 1.64 BTC [-] [16:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 48796 @ 0.004 = 195.184 BTC [+] [16:31]
Bowjob i assume a 4th module will cost 22 BTC? [16:33]
Bowjob $1300+ for a module that hashes 22 gh [16:33]
Bowjob yikes [16:33]
Diablo-D3 avalon sells by USD not BTC [16:34]
Diablo-D3 so they probably havent adjusted their pricing yet [16:35]
Diablo-D3 the three module avalons were selling for $1300 [16:35]
Bowjob wrong [16:35]
Bowjob by yuan [16:35]
Bowjob not pegged to usd [16:35]
Bowjob anymore [16:35]
Diablo-D3 same difference [16:35]
Bowjob no [16:35]
Diablo-D3 the yuan is not massively deflating [16:36]
Diablo-D3 so yes, its the same thing [16:36]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155345.0 [16:37]
Bowjob well its by btc now actually [16:38]
Bowjob lol [16:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.33318 = 1.3327 BTC [-] [16:39]
jurov btw, finally got a bet approved: http://bitbet.us/bet/314/bitcointalk-org-treasurer-to-be-scammer-tagged/?ref=1EteoRKNYbNhhmFfsKnUSWRF3JUpKCcMnc [16:40]
jurov getting scammer tag isnt necessarily result of a crime [16:42]
ThickAsThieves scamming isn't a crime? [16:43]
iz getting the tag isn't [16:43]
Bowjob http://s23.postimage.org/rr8hyldu3/avalon.jpg [16:43]
jurov if it was "treasurer to be convicted" that would be another matter [16:43]
iz yeah, seems easy to throw it [16:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.004 = 3.6 BTC [+] [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.004 = 5 BTC [+] [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.004 = 3.2 BTC [+] [16:49]
Bowjob dice [16:51]
Bowjob what are u doin [16:51]
Bowjob stahp [16:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 395 @ 0.004 = 1.58 BTC [+] [16:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.004 = 1.2 BTC [+] [16:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 19000 @ 0.004 = 76 BTC [+] [16:54]
kakobrekla im not sure avalon will sell 600 units at 100 btc [16:59]
kakobrekla kinda doubt it [17:00]
kakobrekla mebbe time for a bet [17:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.011 BTC [-] [17:02]
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Bowjob kako, ahead of you [17:03]
Bowjob lol [17:03]
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kakobrekla hm [17:05]
kakobrekla your bet is will be sold out in 1 day? [17:05]
BitHub wooo asicminer share [17:06]
Bowjob yap [17:06]
Bowjob 24 hrs [17:06]
BitHub div* [17:07]
Bowjob should it be 3 days then? [17:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8568 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.8568 = 7.7112 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.857 = 3.428 BTC [+] [17:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.858995 = 6.013 BTC [+] [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00075263 = 5.3437 BTC [-] [17:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00074912 = 2.1724 BTC [-] [17:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 10 @ 0.09682584 = 0.9683 BTC [+] [17:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.858994 = 2.577 BTC [-] [17:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 124 @ 0.00393432 = 0.4879 BTC [-] [17:39]
Chaang-Noi rally? [17:41]
Chaang-Noi fuck yeah [17:41]
Chaang-Noi keep it going [17:41]
Bowjob ;;ticker [17:41]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 59.80000, Best ask: 59.80560, Bid-ask spread: 0.00560, Last trade: 59.80000, 24 hour volume: 71444.29658211, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 60.88800, 24 hour vwap: 57.89681 [17:41]
Bowjob what rally [17:41]
Chaang-Noi we are at 61.97 [17:41]
Chaang-Noi 62 [17:41]
Chaang-Noi new ATH [17:42]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [17:42]
gribble 104.355169 seconds [17:42]
Chaang-Noi fuck yeah [17:42]
Chaang-Noi 62.57 [17:42]
Chaang-Noi oh fuck [17:42]
Chaang-Noi 63 [17:42]
Chaang-Noi dead 63 [17:42]
Chaang-Noi 63.4 [17:42]
Chaang-Noi 63.7 [17:42]
Bowjob holy shit [17:42]
Chaang-Noi yeah [17:43]
mod6 haha, look at the lag [17:43]
mod6 ;;goxlag [17:43]
gribble 45.834547 seconds [17:43]
mod6 oh went way down [17:43]
Chaang-Noi 63.78 [17:43]
Chaang-Noi dows cuz no debth [17:43]
Bowjob this makes the avalol delay a bit more bearable [17:44]
Chaang-Noi yeah, esp cuz i hold asicminer stock [17:44]
Bowjob ltc asicminer, btc [17:45]
Bowjob you're on a roll [17:45]
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Bowjob back to 61 [17:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.858993 = 6.8719 BTC [-] [17:47]
ThickAsThieves Chaang, do you work the ups and downs at BTC-e for litecoin? [17:47]
Chaang-Noi i hold btc, ltc and asicminer, and yeah im on fucking fire this months [17:47]
kakobrekla careful you dont burn out [17:47]
Chaang-Noi i used to, i got over 200k ltc for free that way [17:47]
Chaang-Noi but i quit after we broke 20 cents [17:47]
Chaang-Noi i sold 80k or so over .01 and if i get to buy back in i will [17:48]
Chaang-Noi but im looking for .008ish or less [17:48]
Bowjob you can crash it yousel.. ltc holders are lemminhs [17:49]
Bowjob lemmings [17:49]
smickles_ yay, i'm back :) [17:49]
Bowjob you can buy buck cheaper [17:49]
Chaang-Noi i sold 50k at .01 trying to stop it [17:49]
Chaang-Noi then i did crash it to .01 but it has not gone down much [17:50]
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Bowjob its very steady at 50c ea [17:50]
ThickAsThieves i played with crashing and pumping some this week [17:50]
Chaang-Noi you need like 200k just to move it and keep it [17:50]
ThickAsThieves overall money can be made if you arent too aggresive [17:50]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 8 @ 0.29453842 = 2.3563 BTC [+] [17:50]
Chaang-Noi yeah i just thought id better quit for now [17:50]
ThickAsThieves we shold start a circle of market movers [17:50]
ThickAsThieves and just control it [17:51]
Bowjob lol [17:51]
Chaang-Noi i know some big holders but... im not sure that is good for ltc over all [17:51]
Bowjob i wish i didnt dump 10k ltc [17:51]
ThickAsThieves good if we dont dump [17:51]
Bowjob oh well [17:51]
Chaang-Noi i have a bit more to dump, im holding 84000 for a long time [17:51]
ThickAsThieves hmm [17:51]
Chaang-Noi i got 50k to dump at 1$ or so [17:51]
ThickAsThieves what if i start an ltc buying fun [17:51]
ThickAsThieves fund [17:51]
kakobrekla yeah ltc is nice, it shows true value of btc [17:52]
Chaang-Noi ltc shows the true value of crypto [17:52]
kakobrekla lulz [17:52]
Chaang-Noi i hold more btc than ltc (in usd value) [17:52]
Chaang-Noi im a btc guy, but i saw an opertunity in ltc and i took it [17:53]
kakobrekla you are also not a finance guy or something [17:53]
kakobrekla so dunno [17:53]
kakobrekla sock on head. [17:53]
Chaang-Noi mp's girl thinks im not [17:53]
Chaang-Noi but i dont care lulz [17:53]
kakobrekla >I don't do finance [17:54]
kakobrekla that from your mouth [17:54]
kakobrekla thats [17:54]
Chaang-Noi yes, but you forgot the wink [17:54]
kakobrekla i interpret it as "im being honest here" [17:54]
Chaang-Noi notice how the moves end at 7/8 of a dollar every time? [17:55]
Chaang-Noi wink [17:55]
Bowjob well, we are the new banking overlords [17:55]
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kakobrekla calm down Bowjob [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3879 @ 0.00075613 = 2.933 BTC [+] [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1649 @ 0.00075702 = 1.2483 BTC [+] [17:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13172 @ 0.00076717 = 10.1052 BTC [+] [17:55]
Bowjob im pretty calm [17:55]
Chaang-Noi yeah will shit himself once btc is 1000:) [17:56]
kakobrekla tune your masturbation amount, its is not correct [17:56]
kakobrekla try less or more [17:56]
kakobrekla or was that someone else [17:56]
kakobrekla sorry if mixed it up [17:56]
Chaang-Noi that was from your "secret club" last night :) [17:56]
kakobrekla no its a secret FAN club [17:57]
Chaang-Noi oh yeah, sorry :) [17:57]
kakobrekla youd knew that if you were smart investor! [17:57]
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Chaang-Noi ;D [17:57]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155260.0 [17:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.100001 = 1 BTC [-] [18:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [-] [18:00]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [18:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 61.61009, Best ask: 61.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.35991, Last trade: 61.97000, 24 hour volume: 92984.04562603, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 63.78700, 24 hour vwap: 58.91450 [18:00]
kakobrekla ;;calc 61*4224 [18:00]
gribble 257664 [18:00]
Chaang-Noi its nice they limit the rally [18:00]
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Chaang-Noi we dont need $150 in 4 days... [18:01]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.000719 = 0.0036 BTC [+] [18:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [18:05]
kakobrekla >Garrett, are you still considering an Avalon purchase after reading today's news? [18:05]
kakobrekla lulz [18:05]
Chaang-Noi :) [18:05]
Diablo-D3 what news? [18:06]
Chaang-Noi 62.9 [18:06]
kakobrekla > batch3 will be sold between 80 and 115 BTC [18:06]
kakobrekla Diablo-D3^^ [18:06]
Chaang-Noi and batch 2 wont ship until end of may right? [18:06]
kakobrekla dunno [18:06]
kakobrekla dont care [18:06]
Chaang-Noi i hold asicminer so i do:) [18:06]
kakobrekla they are in the BFL club for me now [18:06]
Chaang-Noi bfl has been dead silent the last week, dad is the key word [18:07]
Chaang-Noi dead [18:07]
mod6 but Luke-Jr said they're gonna ship! [18:07]
kakobrekla still you have fury and another chip maker comming out [18:07]
Chaang-Noi i bet they will ship sooner or later... [18:08]
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Chaang-Noi i hear 4 to 6 weeks [18:08]
kakobrekla hehe [18:08]
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Chaang-Noi 63.79 [18:11]
Chaang-Noi 63.99 [18:11]
Chaang-Noi 64,889 [18:12]
Chaang-Noi 65 [18:12]
Chaang-Noi there we go [18:12]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 65 [18:12]
gribble There are currently 4485.7373 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 288722.532564 USD in total. | Data vintage: 81.9425 seconds [18:12]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 54.66 [18:12]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 54.66 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.4132 seconds [18:13]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 64.66 [18:13]
gribble There are currently 2353.8081 bitcoins offered at or under 64.66 USD, worth 150212.942787 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.9168 seconds [18:13]
Chaang-Noi this bot is slow as fuck [18:13]
smickles ;;goxlag [18:17]
gribble 0.263985 seconds [18:17]
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smickles ;;asks 64.66 [18:17]
gribble There are currently 181.48403 bitcoins offered at or under 64.66 USD, worth 11578.8474952 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds [18:17]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 70 [18:17]
gribble There are currently 17923.735 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1216110.74987 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.3849 seconds [18:18]
Chaang-Noi that is not much... [18:18]
Chaang-Noi the whale is just waiting for suckers to list coins lower... [18:18]
Bowjob http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3tg8ms/ [18:25]
Bowjob I updated the meme. I told a gaming forum about bitcoins way back then [18:25]
Bowjob gave them an update, they went holy shit [18:25]
benkay sounds like a waste of time [18:26]
Bowjob they will eventually give up and buy some in the future [18:27]
Bowjob I just wanna tell them. "I told you so" [18:27]
Bowjob seems childlish.. ehehehe [18:27]
benkay on a different topic, someone should put togther a REIT that runs on btc to swoop into shittily-banked countries and swipe their assets out from underneath them at a fraction of their real value because the natives are scared. [18:27]
benkay like I said, bowjob, waste of time. you could be building a company or something. [18:27]
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ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [18:29]
gribble 0.753354 seconds [18:29]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [18:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.75000, Best ask: 64.73000, Bid-ask spread: 0.98000, Last trade: 64.73000, 24 hour volume: 91975.92783006, 24 hour low: 53.00000, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.44622 [18:29]
Bowjob 64 [18:30]
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Chaang-Noi just had 64.75 [18:31]
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Bowjob its rainy here [18:34]
Bowjob heh, i accidentally wore my pants backwards [18:34]
Bowjob apparently its insanely good luck [18:35]
ThickAsThieves chaang ltc might dip into your Buy zone [18:35]
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Chaang-Noi under .009 [18:35]
Bowjob yeap its under 8 [18:35]
Bowjob i mean 9 [18:36]
Chaang-Noi my eye is on it [18:36]
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Bowjob I kinda feel bad for people who borrow BTC [18:37]
Bowjob they'll get gored by the bull [18:38]
smickles Bowjob: i just had someone ask me to lend to them when wer were ~10 bucks lower [18:38]
Bowjob I lent 3 BTC to a reputable person, I hope they make profit on it [18:38]
Bowjob thats when BTC was 58 bucks [18:38]
Bowjob in two weeks, BTC may well be $75 [18:39]
Bowjob ea [18:39]
Chaang-Noi $100 before end of month [18:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 63 @ 0.00396 = 0.2495 BTC [-] [18:39]
Bowjob it was way more exciting when i was broke [18:40]
Bowjob living on 10 bucks a day [18:40]
Bowjob heh [18:40]
Bowjob when i got my first paycheck [18:40]
Bowjob for 840 dollars [18:40]
Bowjob felt like a million bucks [18:40]
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Chaang-Noi ;;8ball when goat dies will he get 72 virgins? [18:41]
gribble Maybe... [18:41]
Chaang-Noi meh [18:41]
kakobrekla want the old exciting way of life back? [18:41]
Troic_ !ticker m s.dice [18:41]
kakobrekla 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE [18:41]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00381798 / 0.00413145 / 0.005 (160717 shares, 663.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00381798 / 0.00444285 / 0.00599987 (232474 shares, 1,032.85 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00596521 / 0.0069 (2433117 shares, 14,514.06 BTC) [18:41]
Bowjob Nah, I'm better off like this [18:41]
Bowjob lol [18:41]
kakobrekla cmon [18:41]
Diablo-D3 kakobrekla: man, I wanna vanitygen that [18:41]
kakobrekla eater is hungry [18:41]
Bowjob the old exciting life.. ughh [18:41]
Bowjob 10 bucks a day. walk to school [18:42]
Bowjob no money for bus [18:42]
Bowjob Well, even at 10 bucks a day, I managed to save like $500 without starving myself [18:42]
Diablo-D3 heh [18:42]
Diablo-D3 you wanna save money? [18:42]
Diablo-D3 go paleo [18:42]
Bowjob paleo? [18:42]
kakobrekla go amish [18:43]
jurov or soylent :) [18:43]
Bowjob im pretty loaded right now, both fiat and btc [18:43]
Bowjob i wish id appreciate 10 bucks today like 10 bucks back then [18:43]
Bowjob its just.. inflation [18:43]
Bowjob and its just been 3 years, i can feel the price go up [18:44]
Chaang-Noi mt gox is broken [18:44]
Chaang-Noi fucking gox [18:44]
kakobrekla yeah [18:44]
Bowjob what else is new [18:44]
Bowjob lol [18:44]
kakobrekla ima gonna put btc/usd in mt4 [18:44]
kakobrekla problem solved [18:44]
Chaang-Noi if i gave mt gox $100k usd think they could fix this? [18:44]
kakobrekla lol [18:44]
kakobrekla are you a comedian [18:45]
kakobrekla you should hang out with usagi [18:45]
Chaang-Noi i know, they will need much much more [18:45]
Bowjob mt gox makes way more than $100k [18:45]
Bowjob lol [18:45]
kakobrekla they are unfixable [18:45]
Chaang-Noi kako i just be trollin, its what i do for a living [18:45]
kakobrekla pays good? [18:46]
Chaang-Noi i could not make more money at anything else, so i guess so [18:46]
Bowjob u do it at a bar [18:46]
Chaang-Noi but really... gox... [18:46]
Chaang-Noi when i go to a bar im the silent guy in the corner [18:47]
kakobrekla but in the trollbox [18:47]
Chaang-Noi that all the hot girls go to and wai, and all the thai guys are like wtf? ;D [18:47]
kakobrekla hes the big boss [18:47]
Chaang-Noi yeah, in this box, im just an average fish [18:47]
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Bowjob gah. i want a new coat [18:48]
kakobrekla i want new goat [18:48]
Bowjob its freezing here in vancouver [18:48]
Chaang-Noi that is the last thing i want (a coat) i could use a goat.. grass is tall [18:48]
Bowjob id reckon spring and fall is actually colder than winter [18:48]
Bowjob winter is just.. idk lol. not as cold [18:48]
kakobrekla all the snow makes it warm. [18:48]
Chaang-Noi once i get a million usd im going to anartica, andyone else have plans for 1 million usd? [18:48]
kakobrekla meh antartica [18:49]
Bowjob ant arc tica [18:49]
Chaang-Noi iv never been [18:49]
Bowjob yeah, snow makes for warmer surroundings oddly enough [18:50]
Bowjob the wind just freezes me inside [18:50]
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Bowjob are Cypriot banks still closed? [18:54]
kakobrekla afaik ya [18:54]
jurov and they will likely stay closed longer [18:54]
Chaang-Noi yeah, will they ever open again? [18:54]
Chaang-Noi we need a bitbet 4 that [18:54]
jurov prolly after their parliament reaches some decision [18:54]
Chaang-Noi banks open by april 1st or so [18:54]
Chaang-Noi can anyone remember when btc broke 50? seems like yesterday [18:55]
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ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [18:57]
gribble 1.244448 seconds [18:57]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [18:57]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.25002, Best ask: 63.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22998, Last trade: 64.05000, 24 hour volume: 86416.29418274, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.92861 [18:57]
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Chaang-Noi that ticker right? [18:58]
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Chaang-Noi hi ineededausername [18:58]
ineededausername hi goat :) [18:58]
jurov kakobrekla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ao5eg/today_i_learned_you_can_use_mt4_for_bitcoin/ [18:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.33318 = 0.9995 BTC [-] [19:00]
kakobrekla you cant use it to trade btc/usd pair (yet) [19:00]
kakobrekla hes prolly confused about that [19:00]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [19:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.48000, Best ask: 63.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 63.48000, 24 hour volume: 86370.84658881, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.93938 [19:00]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [19:00]
gribble 2.22098 seconds [19:00]
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jurov kako i know, just that you may want to comment there [19:01]
kakobrekla by their standards ima scammer [19:01]
kakobrekla who gives [19:01]
jurov it took me a while to understand how btc is used on bit4x [19:01]
jurov oooh, me too. still have screenshot of how was coinbr announcement received by reddit [19:02]
jurov for shits and giggles [19:02]
kakobrekla heh [19:02]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [19:03]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50002, Best ask: 64.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49998, Last trade: 64.00000, 24 hour volume: 86281.05475386, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.95506 [19:03]
Chaang-Noi Mar20 17:04:03 mtgox x5 100.0000 @ 64.00246812 USD life [19:05]
Bowjob ;;ticker [19:05]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.50003, Best ask: 64.42999, Bid-ask spread: 0.92996, Last trade: 64.43000, 24 hour volume: 86359.93202852, 24 hour low: 53.60931, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 59.96982 [19:05]
Bowjob fun shit [19:05]
ineededausername whoosh [19:05]
ineededausername going to 100! [19:05]
ineededausername ;;bc,price [19:05]
gribble Next Price Estimate: 70.872978 | Next Price In About 2 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes, and 14 seconds [19:05]
ineededausername ok, maybe only 70 ;) [19:05]
Bowjob the mpex OIX is so wrong [19:06]
Bowjob lol [19:06]
Bowjob it said $39 or something [19:06]
Bowjob lol [19:06]
jcpham look it inau [19:06]
jurov what do you think, will mp manage to add new options before price crosses 75? [19:06]
jcpham gtfoff my rocket inau [19:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10850 @ 0.0007499 = 8.1364 BTC [-] [19:07]
jurov wtb C5000N [19:07]
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mod6 !ticker m ^OIX [19:13]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 57.56498348 / 57.56498348 (6790 shares, 792.60 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [19:13]
Bowjob ;;ticker [19:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.68001, Best ask: 63.79500, Bid-ask spread: 0.11499, Last trade: 63.79500, 24 hour volume: 85046.90197713, 24 hour low: 55.10000, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 60.10183 [19:14]
Bowjob $65 is the ath [19:15]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [19:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.38002, Best ask: 63.60130, Bid-ask spread: 0.22128, Last trade: 63.38002, 24 hour volume: 85696.78091179, 24 hour low: 55.30001, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 60.17280 [19:20]
Bowjob im thinking of a black aventador/ mhm [19:21]
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kakobrekla lol reddit jurov, one idiot bigger than the other [19:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1800 @ 0.004 = 7.2 BTC [+] [19:30]
jurov how do you mean "reddit jurov, one idiot bigger than the other" ? [19:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 18481 @ 0.004 = 73.924 BTC [+] [19:31]
kakobrekla commenting the comment posted on that forex thread or whatever the thing is called on reddit [19:31]
jurov okay... just got alternative meaning of that sentence first [19:32]
jurov :D [19:32]
pigeons usagi is offline now but he sent me a query that he's upset because he claimed i lied to him because he told me not to post the spreadsheet to a public web page or post it to the forum [19:32]
pigeons and he claims I sent derived an edited copy, which I did not [19:33]
smickles pigeons: what link did i miss [19:33]
kakobrekla you say it was a mistake [19:33]
jcpham hey pigeons guess who i believe [19:33]
kakobrekla he prolly ment please YES post it [19:33]
jcpham i bet you'll never guess [19:33]
pigeons smickles: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.120 [19:33]
jcpham pigeons always starting drama on the forums [19:34]
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jcpham u cray pigeons [19:34]
pigeons kakobrekla: i didnt post it, i sent it to deprived who posted an except of the part that shows he calculates exactly what a share is worth a knows its 100% overpriced [19:34]
kakobrekla aha k [19:34]
pigeons and i didnt send an edited version of course, why would i do that? [19:34]
Chaang-Noi lol [19:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.004805 = 0.024 BTC [+] [19:36]
Chaang-Noi okay in a few days ill pay for the next share:) [19:36]
pigeons he says im revoked from access [19:36]
Chaang-Noi yeah, we need a new guy [19:36]
Chaang-Noi i dont think that will be hard to find [19:36]
Chaang-Noi any i need to sleep, good trading all [19:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0007499 = 1.9497 BTC [-] [19:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3056 @ 0.00074912 = 2.2893 BTC [-] [19:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 592 @ 0.00074461 = 0.4408 BTC [-] [19:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 652 @ 0.0007446 = 0.4855 BTC [-] [19:40]
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jurov so,all s.dice @0.004 gone, what shall i do with the stash? wait for divs? [19:41]
jurov or for whale [19:42]
mod6 buy low, sell high [19:42]
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mod6 looks like .003 is a good support level in ther [19:43]
mod6 *there [19:43]
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jurov heh nobody wants to sell less than 66% of ipo price [19:44]
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jurov would move it to bf and sell there, if g.sdice wasn't ghost town :( [19:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.856 BTC [-] [19:45]
jurov btc grows too fast, ruins stock trade :( haha [19:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.494 = 1.482 BTC [+] [19:47]
smickles soebot up and running again :) [19:48]
smickles nasty overflow error [19:49]
jborkl on tu silver - i looked at that report [19:49]
jborkl 80 oz * 28 / 63 [19:49]
jurov $markov usagi [19:49]
mpexbot jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain. [19:49]
jurov oh that's other bot [19:49]
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smickles $markov [19:49]
mpexbot i can see you with half you face painted blue right now, mircea_popescu [19:49]
jborkl 35 bitcoins miuns debt applied of 46 btc [19:49]
smickles jurov: the broken link thing happens when the bot hasn't seen someone start a line with the given word [19:50]
smickles let's test it [19:50]
jborkl plus the 3 btc left [19:50]
jurov $markov i [19:50]
mpexbot i wasn;t,no [19:50]
jurov $markov and [19:50]
mpexbot and trades by email are supported automatically? [19:50]
jborkl so the fund is worth -8 approx btc? [19:50]
smickles usagi wanker wanker bumble but [19:50]
smickles $usagi [19:50]
smickles $markov usagi [19:50]
mpexbot smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain. [19:50]
smickles bah [19:50]
smickles i dunno then [19:50]
jurov $markov he [19:50]
mpexbot jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain. [19:50]
pigeons i don't know, he ownse some options on his own shares and some JAH mining shares [19:50]
pigeons he being TU.SILVER [19:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.484 BTC [-] [19:51]
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jborkl ;;calc -8/800 [19:54]
gribble -0.01 [19:54]
jborkl ^ approx value of tu.silver- if I am not missing something [19:54]
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benkay we need to push people running bitcoin companies on extreme transparency [19:55]
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benkay verifiable business practices [19:56]
benkay i'm glad that people on the forum are running usagi through the grinder [19:56]
XRPTrader2 i think the real question is "how many russian mobsters do we need to get to buy bitcoin?" :D [19:56]
benkay bar needs to be way higher. [19:56]
benkay need? [19:57]
benkay zero. [19:57]
benkay need is such a strong word. typically used by people who don't really understand what it is to need a thing. [19:57]
benkay like [19:57]
benkay i need a vpn to do my stuff [19:57]
benkay wrong [19:57]
XRPTrader2 is reading satire one of your strong points? [19:58]
benkay just use ssh, and fish through the connections with a coathanger [19:58]
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benkay ignoring it is. [19:58]
benkay but while we're on the topic, what was the actual point you were trying to make? i can't read it through all the funny. [19:59]
benkay (also it turns out i do need a vpn, for efficiency. the thing about using irony online is that you have to explain it to people. hence, "coathanger".) [20:00]
pigeons i just let them think im stuoid [20:01]
benkay >>stuoid [20:02]
benkay ;) [20:02]
benkay thanks for posting the thing, pigeons [20:02]
smickles ;;ident [20:02]
gribble You are not identified. [20:02]
pigeons team effort [20:03]
benkay pass my thanks on to team plz [20:03]
smickles ;;rated usagi [20:03]
gribble You rated user usagi on Sun Nov 11 18:00:33 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: defaulted on this: http://bitbin.it/nPDQRLME and tries overcome simple facts with appeals to emotion. [20:03]
smickles ;) [20:03]
smickles aw, bitbinit is down? [20:04]
benkay naw [20:04]
benkay just taking a while [20:04]
benkay wowee [20:05]
benkay where did he respond to defaulting? [20:05]
pigeons ;;rated usagi [20:05]
gribble You rated user usagi on Thu Nov 15 13:23:03 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: person strikes me a bit flaky. [20:05]
benkay or address his failure to pay? [20:05]
smickles in a forum thread somewhere [20:05]
benkay baww [20:05]
topace anyone want to invest in https://www.cavirtex.com? i can do pre-release private invitations -- it goes public tomorrow. [20:06]
topace it'll be listed on havelock under symbol VTX [20:06]
smickles benkay: basically, shit was hitting the fan with glbse, I asked him if he'd be able to pay. he said yes, then vanished for a while, defaulted and then said i was heartless [20:06]
pigeons ;;ident topace [20:06]
gribble Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is not identified. [20:06]
smickles I'll find the link for you [20:07]
benkay no worries [20:07]
benkay i trust your read on the thing [20:07]
benkay pigeons, correct me if i'm wrong, but it's bad form to rate someone without having performed a transaction with them [20:07]
benkay but *I think* that it's bad form... [20:07]
pigeons benkay: i disagree as does the founder of the web of trust [20:08]
smickles it's a trust rating [20:08]
benkay hm [20:08]
smickles not a done-biz-with rating [20:08]
benkay hm hm hm [20:08]
pigeons i used to hold back more, but people have been scammed and i never said anything [20:08]
smickles also, people have been scammed b/c i didn't rate people [20:08]
smickles so rate people [20:09]
smickles it helps others [20:09]
benkay has anyone done any work on distributing the WoT? [20:09]
smickles #bitcoin-wot iirc [20:09]
pigeons benkay: yeah v2 proposal is distributed #bitcoin-wot [20:09]
benkay thanks [20:09]
pigeons and i did do business with him , i bought his cdos from mpex and he proceeded to sell all the C out from the DOs and then told me it was impossible for cpa to go bankrupt when i asked him about it [20:10]
pigeons then went bankrupt [20:10]
smickles damn [20:11]
benkay damn pigeons [20:11]
benkay and you're not rating him for that? [20:11]
benkay why the "seems flaky" instead of "fucked me hard"? [20:12]
pigeons i cant even succintly explain all the stupid involved for a rating [20:12]
pigeons cause that's his problem, he's a fuckin nut [20:12]
benkay and why just a -1? [20:12]
pigeons the -1 was at a time when he was working to repay folks [20:12]
pigeons my rating of usagi is, dude is flaky, warning [20:13]
benkay hm [20:13]
pigeons ;;rate topace 2 [20:14]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user topace has been recorded. [20:14]
pigeons usagi had 3 different risk profiles for his cdos, and he bought OBSI.HYPT (High Yield Pass Through into secret business model now run away with the money) in the EXTREMELY LOW RISK group [20:17]
pigeons also flat out lied about the valuations. something sells for X and he says "book value" is X * 10 because mining is looking good [20:18]
topace thanks pigeons :) [20:18]
topace i should figure out how to auth myself with gribble again [20:18]
topace been so long [20:18]
benkay eauth topace [20:19]
benkay curl whatever | gpg --decrypt [20:19]
benkay send plaintext to gribble [20:19]
topace ;;ident topace [20:21]
gribble Nick 'topace', with hostmask 'topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace', is identified as user topace, with GPG key id A49472A32D4FCE50, key fingerprint 08AEAC40F3086E6131B39762A49472A32D4FCE50, and bitcoin address None [20:21]
topace ;;getrating topace [20:21]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask topace!~kvirc@unaffiliated/topace . User topace, rated since Wed Jun 8 15:37:29 2011. Cumulative rating 25, from 10 total ratings. Received ratings: 10 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 6 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=topace [20:21]
pigeons http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Helper_scripts [20:22]
smickles $depth s.dice [20:23]
mpexbot smickles: Bids: ['1576 @ 0.00393432', '5034 @ 0.003198', '805000 @ 0.0031', '116759 @ 0.00100118', '42030 @ 0.00100117'] [20:23]
mpexbot smickles: Asks: ['995 @ 0.004805', '201 @ 0.005', '6623 @ 0.0051', '41800 @ 0.0056', '19183 @ 0.00576999'] [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 995 @ 0.004805 = 4.781 BTC [+] [20:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3241 @ 0.00076404 = 2.4763 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 592 @ 0.00076716 = 0.4542 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5059 @ 0.00076717 = 3.8811 BTC [+] [20:32]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+] [20:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 2.5 BTC [20:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00178 = 0.0178 BTC [-] [20:57]
dub just realised who the bitcoin pride guy is [20:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00413 BTC [-] [20:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00412 BTC [-] [20:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.0041 BTC [-] [20:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00369 = 0.0111 BTC [-] [20:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 10 @ 0.00351 = 0.0351 BTC [-] [20:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00328 = 0.0098 BTC [-] [20:58]
benkay dub, who is he? [20:58]
dub one of realsolids fan boys or perhaps personalities [20:58]
smickles ha [20:59]
benkay wow the shirts on that site are uniformly horrid. [20:59]
dub one of the top 5 most retarded forum users [20:59]
benkay bitcoin wifey? [20:59]
benkay let's just cement the tech community's reputation for misogyny. [21:00]
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benkay not one "Free the Market, Free the World" shirt. [21:01]
smickles dub, realsolid on bitcoin: http://memegenerator.net/instance/36422651 [21:01]
jurov BFLievers alert! Difficulty future CoinBr.iDiff-O paid and reissued with 15th May expiration: http://bit.ly/WVtL6x . [21:03]
jurov Also,CoinBr.iDiff-E sells now at 0.095 only. [21:03]
pigeons Al Gore is RealSolid? [21:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.0099 = 0.099 BTC [+] [21:03]
smickles no, al gore is a big fan of bitcoins [21:04]
mod6 lol fuck al gore in his ear [21:04]
pigeons by a big manbearpig [21:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 28 @ 0.0099 = 0.2772 BTC [+] [21:04]
mod6 haha [21:05]
smickles http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15246076.jpg lol [21:08]
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mod6 smickles: hahah [21:21]
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dub who dat is? [21:24]
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smickles dub, no idea [21:28]
smickles 1890's guy meme [21:28]
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kakobrekla ;;ticker [21:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 63.64997, Best ask: 63.64998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 63.64997, 24 hour volume: 80512.67272484, 24 hour low: 57.02000, 24 hour high: 64.99980, 24 hour vwap: 60.83886 [21:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1 @ 0.00499999 BTC [+] [21:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858991 = 1.718 BTC [-] [21:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.858991 = 6.8719 BTC [-] [21:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.858991 = 5.1539 BTC [-] [21:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858991 BTC [-] [21:52]
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ThickAsThieves thinking out loud, is it possible asicminer was waiting to increase their hashing a lot until they had met their IPO obligation of .01? Now that they have pretty much reached that, they can start paying themselves half. [21:57]
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benkay anything's possible. [21:57]
ThickAsThieves they also mentioned that they might hold back on hashing in the future to try and reduce difficulty changes [21:57]
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ThickAsThieves maybe those two notions combined [21:58]
ThickAsThieves add up to something [21:58]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858 BTC [-] [22:08]
jurov $91/BTC = "One beeellion dollars" [22:11]
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pigeons wow, that's like $250/oz in fan club silver [22:13]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 70 [22:13]
gribble There are currently 18945.979 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1287280.13071 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds [22:13]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 69.99 [22:13]
gribble There are currently 18661.56 bitcoins offered at or under 69.99 USD, worth 1267370.78922 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.7516 seconds [22:13]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 65 [22:13]
gribble There are currently 2767.5768 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 179691.531073 USD in total. | Data vintage: 21.2104 seconds [22:13]
jurov ThickAsThieves, stop, ur killing mtgox :) [22:14]
smickles lol [22:14]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [22:15]
gribble 0.166135 seconds [22:15]
ThickAsThieves it can take the abuse it seems [22:15]
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jurov if today someone on the street asked me what bitcoin costs, i'll be liek [22:17]
jurov $50.. err.. $60... err... lemme check [22:18]
kakobrekla http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/estimation.png [22:18]
kakobrekla like this [22:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858991 BTC [+] [22:19]
benkay 24hr weighted avg? [22:19]
benkay 24hr weighted avg of biggest exchanges, maybe. [22:19]
jurov ;;vwap [22:20]
gribble Error: "vwap" is not a valid command. [22:20]
benkay $vwap [22:20]
mpexbot benkay: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=hayxi7Pw [22:20]
jurov ;;bc,24hprc [22:20]
gribble 60.84 [22:20]
benkay prc? [22:20]
jurov PRiCe? [22:20]
benkay volume weighted or anything? [22:25]
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benkay ;;bc,12hprc [22:26]
gribble Error: "bc,12hprc" is not a valid command. [22:26]
benkay ;;bc,24hprc [22:26]
gribble 60.84 [22:26]
benkay hm. [22:26]
smickles benkay: all markets 24h vwap [22:26]
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benkay thanks smickles [22:26]
jborkl smickles, I have some windows user install instructions [22:26]
benkay documentation's a bit lacking. [22:26]
smickles jborkl: I'd love to have them :) [22:26]
jborkl you want me to email it? [22:26]
smickles please [22:26]
jborkl ok, np [22:27]
smickles jborkl: btw, i'm working on improving the appearance of the 'long list' sort of things like bids/asks and the overall market view [22:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00076717 = 2.8385 BTC [+] [22:28]
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jborkl ok, cool- I just got it working- took a break from yesterday. [22:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.85899 = 8.5899 BTC [-] [22:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.85899 = 1.718 BTC [-] [22:29]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @ 0.0111 = 0.0222 BTC [+] [22:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.32001 BTC [-] [22:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-] [22:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00801 BTC [-] [22:35]
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unbalanced So is the Fed buying all the Bitcoins up er wot? [22:44]
pigeons no its algore [22:44]
unbalanced I hear he invented Bitcoin. Or was it the internet? [22:45]
Namworld It's ah me, Mario! Buying all the BTC at 1 coin = 1 BTC. [22:45]
Namworld 100 oz giant gold coins I keep collecting everywhere. [22:46]
jurov ph, algore. wait till billg arrives [22:46]
jurov the father of internet, universe and everything [22:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3964 @ 0.00076717 = 3.0411 BTC [+] [22:47]
unbalanced Or is this surge caused by certain Russian "interests" getting their money the heck out of Cyprus? [22:48]
billg lmao this nick was free! [22:49]
unbalanced You look taller. Nice suit. [22:49]
Namworld Occam's razor... those scenarios... [22:49]
benkay unbalanced [22:50]
benkay you should grab unbalanced_payments [22:50]
benkay and make a bitcoin company with that name [22:50]
benkay confuse the shit out of some people. [22:50]
Namworld The simplest explanation is a bunch of newcomers hearing of the price going up wants in. Further raising the price... further attracting newcomers. [22:51]
Namworld The higher the price, the more interest there is from the general population. [22:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1 @ 0.00076717 BTC [+] [22:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.858989 = 2.577 BTC [-] [22:51]
Namworld It's gonna burn all the little guys. [22:51]
unbalanced Great, bring on the Ponzi headines. [22:51]
unbalanced Again. [22:51]
jborkl Succesful windows buy smickles- adding to the order book and cancel works alsl [22:52]
jborkl also [22:52]
Namworld Well I'm sure Bitcoin is raising in value, regardless of this exponential price rise. [22:52]
unbalanced OTOH, if this keeps up for 100 more years, I may eventually be rich. [22:52]
Namworld Just that the current price is mostly fueled by speculation. It is my belief. [22:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858988 = 1.718 BTC [-] [22:53]
billg ^this is then fueled by what? [22:53]
Namworld I'm waiting for the price to go down. Even if it doesn't... well I have a fair amount of BTC even if not much. [22:53]
MJR_ see nassim taleb about bitcoins? [22:53]
Namworld ASICMINER? [22:53]
MJR_ or al gore? awesome [22:53]
Namworld It's fueled by their massive amount of hashing power. [22:53]
MJR_ hey Namworld ! [22:54]
MJR_ :) [22:54]
unbalanced Namworld: I agree, I don't know where it'll be in a year or 5 but I can't see it back at 2.50. [22:54]
Namworld yeah, not going to drop at 2.5 again I think... [22:54]
MJR_ loving btc bond [22:54]
kakobrekla maybe 2.8 [22:54]
Namworld But maybe a low of 15 USD/BTC at the low of the crash. [22:55]
unbalanced Taleb/Gore said something about Bitcoin? Googling... [22:55]
smickles jborkl: nice :) [22:55]
Namworld Maybe then go and stabilize around 30 USD/BTC? [22:55]
MJR_ separately [22:55]
Namworld Complete bogus speculation on the price anyway. [22:55]
Namworld Thanks MJR [22:55]
Namworld I was thinking of slowly buying back tho. [22:55]
Namworld At least a part of it. [22:56]
MJR_ I hedged by investing dollars to lend at bitfinex [22:56]
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kakobrekla ;;goxlag [22:56]
gribble 0.158895 seconds [22:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.858988 BTC [-] [22:56]
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Namworld Imagine if price skyrockets to 1k USD a BTC during this which I expect to be a bubble and all BTC-BOND holders want to cash out right away? Would be expensive to buy and complicated to sell assets to cover them. [22:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00444 BTC [-] [22:58]
Namworld I've removed ask and will buy back at least a good portion of it. [22:59]
deadweasel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155036.20 is this guy serious? [22:59]
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deadweasel insurance? [22:59]
deadweasel that site looks like it took upwards of 12 minutes to make [22:59]
unbalanced Ah, I hit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ and now I'm caught up on Taleb and Gore pumping Bitcoin. [23:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 400 @ 0.0099 = 3.96 BTC [+] [23:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.858989 = 2.577 BTC [+] [23:00]
smickles jborkl: Thanks for the instructions. The only thing is that you shouldn't need pympex to get the MPEx gui to work, otherwise I'd be breaking pympex's license [23:02]
jborkl Let me move that , one sec [23:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00399 = 0.1995 BTC [+] [23:05]
jborkl ok, remove that from the instructions, you are correct [23:05]
jborkl also, I forgot to add- you need to choose to have Kivy open the mpexgui- right click and assign it to always open this file [23:07]
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smickles oh windows is so strange to me now [23:08]
ThickAsThieves bottom fell out on ltc [23:08]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-20/fleeing-the-euro-for-bitcoins-.html sorry of that was already linked [23:11]
ThickAsThieves if* [23:11]
smickles not the bloomberg one [23:11]
jborkl smickles, I just read Cython is included in Kivy for windows- So no need to download that separate [23:12]
unbalanced benkay: sorry for the delay I was off reading - good idea! [23:13]
unbalanced ThinkAsThieves: similar to http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-20/jittery-spaniards-seek-safe-haven-in-bitcoins%23r=rss [23:13]
benkay no apologies necessary, unbalanced. your cycles were probably better burnt on whatever you were reading. [23:13]
ThickAsThieves LTC on BTC-e.com - Sell orders = Sell orders 902842 LTC, Buy Orders 968BTC [23:14]
benkay on the same topic, a local goldbug just got back from argentina, where he rented a car with bitcoins [23:14]
kakobrekla is a bitcoin bug then [23:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-] [23:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24995 BTC [+] [23:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.24997 = 0.7499 BTC [+] [23:15]
unbalanced Did he say how's their hyperinflation was coming along? [23:15]
unbalanced er, *how [23:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @ 0.002499 BTC [-] [23:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @ 2.5 = 5 BTC [+] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00077103 = 2.236 BTC [+] [23:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.858989 = 1.718 BTC [+] [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1082 @ 0.00077103 = 0.8343 BTC [+] [23:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00077104 = 4.8576 BTC [+] [23:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2318 @ 0.00077128 = 1.7878 BTC [+] [23:23]
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smickles jborkl: "uniextractor" is that how it's actually spelled? [23:25]
jborkl one sec [23:25]
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jborkl UniExtract [23:26]
smickles thx :) [23:27]
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unbalanced Namworld: excuse my thickness but how would more hash power (ASICMINER) drive up BTC/USD? It sounds logical but I'm not sure I understand the cause/effect steps [23:30]
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unbalanced Is it because other miners need a higher exchange rate to keep mining, and the network needs the other miners? [23:30]
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jborkl Overall security of the network increases value [23:33]
jborkl imo [23:33]
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smickles jborkl: once you have asigned kivy to always open the file, can you launch MPEx just by double clicking MPEx instead of Kivy.bat? [23:35]
peterl But overall security has diminishing returns, doubling the hash rate does not give double the security [23:35]
jborkl smickles, yes [23:35]
unbalanced So more powerful verification mechanisms (ASIC-based miners) improve the utility/value of Bitcoin... right. [23:35]
jborkl I agree overall security does not provide hash double and price double [23:36]
jborkl I think we are at a unique point reached in January [23:36]
unbalanced Thousands of Europeans fleeing tax grabs are probably more of a factor I guess. [23:36]
unbalanced +speculators [23:37]
dub theres a historical correlation between difficulty and price, its probably a hangover from that [23:37]
kakobrekla http://smpake.com/etc/btc/charts.php [23:38]
kakobrekla theres support and resistance in profitability [23:38]
unbalanced Interesting! [23:39]
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kakobrekla support being around 0.2 and resistance 0.5 or so [23:40]
smickles unbalanced: also check out the charts at http://blockchained.com/ [23:40]
kakobrekla my bet is support will go lower with asic [23:40]
kakobrekla since its getting cheaper to hash [23:40]
jborkl Cheaper and easier, less technical know how. Now the main thing is people choosiing a pool that is not going to rip them off... [23:42]
smickles kakobrekla: i hadn't seen those charts of yours before. Would it be tough for you to add a 1 month chart? [23:43]
benkay cheaper to hash? how? with the advent of very expensive asic miners, how are things cheaper? [23:43]
jborkl Aic miners are much cheaper [23:43]
jborkl Asic [23:43]
benkay on watts/hash? [23:43]
benkay on what metric? [23:43]
jborkl all metrics [23:43]
kakobrekla smickles ill take a look later on [23:43]
smickles :) [23:44]
peterl the people with the asics get it cheaper, the gpus will be forced to drop out cause they are less efficient [23:44]
benkay except upfront cost to buy [23:44]
jborkl till a equilibrium is reached [23:44]
benkay capital requirements just went *up* friends. [23:44]
benkay is this not correct? [23:44]
peterl does anybody know how long an asic is expected to last? [23:44]
deadweasel well the new ati is $400 [23:44]
benkay peterl: an excellent unanswered question. [23:45]
deadweasel so it's not a huge jump from there to a an asic [23:45]
benkay how much is an asic? [23:45]
deadweasel depends on the company and the size [23:46]
peterl I mean, if you can keep mining on them for years it would lower the capital costs, but if they burn up in a couple months it is a ll a waste [23:46]
benkay i don't play in the space, but i thought they were like 15k [23:46]
deadweasel no way to know peterl [23:46]
deadweasel the big rigs are [23:46]
jborkl FPGA's didnt burn up and GPUs didnt burn up - the power consumption of a ASIC tells me it will not burn up [23:46]
peterl maybe estimate the price in $ per Mhash? [23:46]
dub theres only one asic vendor shipping and only just, quality looks average but too soon to know about failure rate [23:47]
deadweasel i'd just be afraid of buying a rushed product. [23:47]
deadweasel 'testing in production' [23:47]
benkay just because fpgas and gpus don't burn up implies nothing about quality of current bitcoin hashers [23:47]
benkay -> asic hashers [23:48]
deadweasel they may honor defects, who knows?1 [23:48]
benkay silicon design is non trivial [23:48]
jborkl Asic chips are all over, used every day [23:48]
peterl From what I read in the AsicMiner thread it sounded like he used a generous line width, which I think means they will be pretty robust? [23:48]
dub well 100% of gpus will burn up if deployed wrong [23:48]
benkay +1 to that [23:48]
deadweasel no doubt [23:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 132 @ 0.00077128 = 0.1018 BTC [+] [23:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2694 @ 0.00077397 = 2.0851 BTC [+] [23:54]
peterl anybody know why ESECURITYSABTC is trading at 2x it's face value? Is it just because of the rapid change in btc price? [23:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.004 = 0.04 BTC [+] [23:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8588 BTC [-] [23:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.00399 = 0.399 BTC [-] [23:57]
jborkl smickles, have you tried the mpexgui on android yet? [23:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 300 @ 0.00398 = 1.194 BTC [-] [23:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8588 BTC [-] [23:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8588 = 1.7176 BTC [-] [23:58]
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