Forum logs for 20 Aug 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @ 0.00070212 = 5.7925 BTC [-] {2}	[01:22]
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TheNewDeal	liking that comic fluffypony	[01:32]
fluffypony	:)	[01:33]
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asciilifeform	http://www.nasdaq.com/article/whatever-happened-to-bitcoin-hint-nothing-good-cm381082 (linked earlier) << pure gold. these folks are in 'tilt mode.'	[01:36]
assbot	Whatever happened to Bitcoin? (Hint: nothing good) - NASDAQ.com	[01:36]
TheNewDeal	What happened to the NASDAQ? Answer: it's being propped up on stilts	[01:40]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[01:41]
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mircea_popescu	dats raycus	[01:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.0007019 = 2.3865 BTC [-] {2}	[01:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.01255309 = 0.6277 BTC [-] {5}	[01:42]
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mircea_popescu	http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << wouldja look at that, weekly active user count over avg last week for the first time in like half a year.	[01:46]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets stats	[01:46]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: so you can only miss the chance to sell 10k 3 times or something? << that was going the other way.	[01:47]
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kakobrekla	i kno.	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker.	[01:48]
gribble	Error: "ticker." is not a valid command.	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[01:48]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 487.96, Best ask: 488.41, Bid-ask spread: 0.45000, Last trade: 488.4, 24 hour volume: 18059.81647100, 24 hour low: 453.01, 24 hour high: 493.98, 24 hour vwap: 479.000378688	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	the problem being that going the other way is a) unduly expensive and b) shockingly ineffectual.	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	but i guess i was giving the bright financial minds on the other side of the tug rope undue credit for being absolutely intelligent so as to know.	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	or mebbe some knew but the group as a whole got desperate enough.	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	i won't know for a while yet, so ah well.	[01:49]
TheNewDeal	mircea_popescu: http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ << wouldja look at that, weekly active user count over avg last week for the first time in like half a year. <<< usagi has been firing up all his old names?	[01:51]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets stats	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	lol doubt it.	[01:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00070291 = 4.6744 BTC [+]	[01:54]
TheNewDeal	so what are you saying about buying 10k? you only have a few chances to do it before the price skyrockets up or what?	[01:55]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/08/tesla-motors-inc-accused-of-organized-crime/ lol, either these guys are running out of ways to make the price move... or Musk is an OG	[02:01]
assbot	Tesla Motors Inc Accused Of "Organized Crime"	[02:01]
fluffypony	he's South African, of course he's an OG	[02:02]
ThickAsThieves	lets use "quotes" on words for no reason	[02:02]
ThickAsThieves	i guess they might be quoting a person	[02:02]
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asciilifeform	'Lithium ion batteries blog up if they get wet or bumped.'	[02:07]
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diana_coman	mircea_popescu got the skill level eulora prize too, here is proof and the address at the end, thank you http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/20/making-my-eulorian-cake-and-eating-it/	[02:09]
assbot	Making My Eulorian Cake and Eating It in Ossasepia	[02:09]
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fluffypony	http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/19/6044403/derp-research-partnership-launched-by-reddit-twitch-imgur-fark-stack-exchange	[02:24]
assbot	Reddit, Twitch, and Imgur have created a research partnership called DERP \| The Verge	[02:24]
fluffypony	mircea_popescu should sue	[02:24]
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thestringpuller	fluffypony: hahaha! of course he is OG.	[02:49]
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mircea_popescu	fluffypony lol	[02:52]
mircea_popescu	http://contravex.com/2014/08/17/who-are-we-not-nationals/#comment-4183 << now this is an interesting point.	[02:54]
assbot	Who Are We? Not Nationals \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski	[02:54]
mircea_popescu	do we have any reason to suspect bitcoin will bring about by and large more prosperous societies in the sense of people affording better friends ?	[02:54]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: or say, go and fix RuBisCO, world's most inefficient enzyme << it's not its fault! hard fucking shit!	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller what's og ?	[03:02]
thestringpuller	original gangsta	[03:02]
thestringpuller	::ud OG	[03:02]
thestringpuller	;;ud og	[03:03]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=OG \| Famouse Tatooists Mr. Cartoon is a straight-up muthafuck'in OG! 2. O G. O G means original gangsta those tru gangstas from way back in the day that jacked ya ...	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	ouc	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	oic*	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell chetty http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Grand_prismatic_spring.jpg/800px-Grand_prismatic_spring.jpg now this has got to be in the game.	[03:06]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[03:06]
asciilifeform	DERP << still waiting for some muppet to start a company selling bottled piss or the like, and labeled 'bitcoin'	[03:06]
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mircea_popescu	im kinda waiting for the twinks to get bored of being irrelevant, get upset and threaten to sue everyone else for using their invention.	[03:08]
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mircea_popescu	destroy land/wealth equivalency << this is gone , actually, which is why i rent.	[03:11]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: to fully visualize the logical conclusion of that gedankenexperiment, picture if one could subsist entirely on the output of a 'desktop garden' under a fluorescent lamp.	[03:13]
asciilifeform	(see also this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2014#781699)	[03:13]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	inasmuch as you accept bitcoin as a desktop garden under a lcd backed monitor, one can, does.	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	you mean if everyone ? but everyone never could.	[03:13]
asciilifeform	well, everyone with the necessary apparatus.	[03:14]
asciilifeform	just like sailors on a nuke sub never need to surface for air - only for food/ammunition/parts	[03:14]
asciilifeform	(electrolytic cell, sea water)	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which : the diesel sub is making a major comeback	[03:15]
asciilifeform	cost.	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	apparently much easier to make it silent, whereas the nuke ones can not	[03:15]
asciilifeform	silent on battery.	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	more importantly (and somewhat secretly) : they're one man subs.	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	robotics and computers are now advanced enough.	[03:16]
asciilifeform	and the 'two airplanes theorem' (what can two planes do, that one, regardless of how spiffy, cannot? be in two places.)	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	think about that solipsist heaven. a one man diesel attack sub.	[03:16]
asciilifeform	midget subs are 1930s state of the art.	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	but these are not so midget-y.	[03:16]
asciilifeform	and, who doesn't love the japanese 'Kaiten.'	[03:16]
asciilifeform	;;google kaiten submarine	[03:16]
gribble	Kaiten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Human torpedo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Kaiten-class \| Nihon Kaigun - Imperial Japanese Navy Page:	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	they're actually pretty fully featured.	[03:16]
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mircea_popescu	so what if ben_vulpes has it his way and by say 2050 most people that are people actually live in one ?	[03:17]
asciilifeform	generally, you want two men (one sleeps)	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	the sub having replaced the car that replaced the knight's horse	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	making orlof a sort of low tech early pioneer in the right direction.	[03:17]
asciilifeform	the familiar 'water planet' scenario, yes.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	leaving the landspace to be inhabited by the proles, toiling in the mines and sub factories under the carcinogenic sun	[03:18]
asciilifeform	we could be there already, but somehow it appears that most people don't like the sea very much.	[03:18]
*	asciilifeform can't imagine why	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	it's not that familiar to me, i'm a sf noob/ignoramus :D	[03:18]
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asciilifeform	'Defined in these terms, when you move onto a floating pole somewhere in the ocean, the first effect on your freedom is a massive decline. You have sworn fealty to King Neptune. Neptune accepts your service, as he has accepted so many before you. His court is glorious, his riches are infinite, his territory is vast. But Neptune is a stern and capricious lord. To live at sea, you need not just love liberty. You n	[03:21]
asciilifeform	eed to love the sea. Spend a little time with Moitessier, Slocum, and the like; read this fine collection, and possibly this (pretty much all of Jonathan Raban's books are good); etc, etc. Yes, I'm aware that seasteading is not yachting. I'm aware that no one intends to take their floating poles around Cape Horn. But you are still at sea, and a subject of Neptune you remain.'	[03:21]
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asciilifeform	(mr mold on the 'seasteading' concept. http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/05/democraphobia-goes-slightly-viral.html)	[03:21]
assbot	Page not found	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	!up tylander	[03:21]
-assbot-	You voiced tylander for 30 minutes.	[03:21]
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mircea_popescu	well, lettuce see. the submarine is submerged. it does not care about "weather" in either fluid sense. with the new fleshlights and tumblr pr0nz... i defy you to find a bunch of 20somethings whose current life would be differen if they were subbed.	[03:22]
asciilifeform	a non-nuke sub spends 90+% of time on the surface.	[03:23]
asciilifeform	(given current battery tech, this is unlikely to change)	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	this is a tech problem.	[03:23]
asciilifeform	the same kind of tech problem as the absence of pocket laser pistol.	[03:24]
asciilifeform	batteries.	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	tell you what : a current car spends 90% of time in the garage. fu that.	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	let there be electric recharge stations on the ocean floor.	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	if they can do it with the teslas it has impact.	[03:24]
asciilifeform	or, as with one proposed electromobile, battery swap couriers.	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	in any case : international waters are international waters	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	and im not sure who can afford to piss off a nation of submarineers, but it wouldn't be the us.	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	what with its super vulnerable carriers and errything.	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	so composed out of thermal electro plant, battery recharge stations and a fleet of subs...	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	geothermal*	[03:26]
asciilifeform	when the last u.s. boat hits the bottom, the scrapyards, or the chinese auction block - we'll find out whether the 'seastead' folks are serious.	[03:26]
kuzetsa	hmm? tumblr pronz and fleshlights? why not both -- http://31.media.tumblr.com/72a9bdc2edcfc228a083bd0fd397c711/tumblr_n3edll7WSz1sp1w56o1_1280.jpg	[03:26]
kuzetsa	oosp, I spelled rp0nz wrong	[03:26]
kuzetsa	oh for fucks sake	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	dude... srlsly ?!	[03:26]
asciilifeform	lol!	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	people fuck icecream-colored cartoon characters ?	[03:26]
kuzetsa	rule34	[03:27]
asciilifeform	people would fuck their own severed heads if they could.	[03:27]
kuzetsa	^ yes, they would	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	the cunts aren't even identical holy hell.	[03:27]
asciilifeform	probably being '3d printed' to order even as we speak.	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	so who's the deep purple one in the middle ?	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	only actual slut in the bunch.	[03:28]
*	asciilifeform had occasion to go to a local electronics store a few days ago, '3d printers' were displayed right next to ordinary ones.	[03:28]
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nubbins`	mp the floating one w/ the rainbow hair is probably the most represented in cosplay etc	[03:30]
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kuzetsa	mircea_popescu: the size of the folds of ones labia is not directly proportional to sexual activity, but only differs with natural variation from person to person... your logic is invalid for calling that slutty... or is this just your headcanon for that particular pony? in which case, I agree, she's awful	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	kuzetsa how much cunt have you seen so far ?	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	in square meters i mean.	[03:30]
nubbins`	lel	[03:30]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: we accept your offer	[03:30]
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thestringpuller	we'll sign da papers tomorrow!	[03:31]
asciilifeform	in square meters << must specify, folded or denatured.	[03:31]
nubbins`	thestringpuller: lovely	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	either way.	[03:31]
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kuzetsa	mircea_popescu: I've seen quite a lot, but even if that wasn't the case, the sex ed programs here don't promote fallacious negative images about people's sexuality because of genital shape	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	i couldn't begin to give less of a shit about what sex "ed" programs say there, wherever that is.	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	i've yet to see a psa "ed" effort that was accurate in details.	[03:32]
nubbins`	how about the marijuana supports terr.. oh, wait	[03:32]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: it's just one color. white on black.	[03:32]
kuzetsa	colleges have sex ed and related programs too, not just primary schools	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	yeah, made by the same people, with the same political aggenda, and with the same utter ignorance and disrespect for observable reality.	[03:33]
nubbins`	thestringpuller: easy peasy	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	something being asserted by a state sponsored "ed" program of any kind is more a predictor of the something being wrong than right.	[03:33]
nubbins`	once in sixth grade, our teacher made us draw cocks for homework	[03:33]
nubbins`	these were put on the classroom bulletin board for the next few weeks	[03:34]
asciilifeform	this applies just as easily to the nominally 'proper' education (average peon has very little use for, e.g. arithmetic)	[03:34]
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mod6	nubbins`: no wai?!	[03:35]
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mircea_popescu	meanwhile at lulzranch : carnivores having well developed teeth is in no way a predictor of their preference in eating meat over say photosynthesis.	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	so said animal ed!	[03:35]
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kuzetsa	uhm	[03:35]
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nubbins`	mod6 nod	[03:36]
nubbins`	she was a strange woman	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` no cunts tho ?	[03:36]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu, nope	[03:36]
mod6	lol	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	now wtf sense does that make ?	[03:36]
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nubbins`	fwiw she used to grind her vulva on the corners of desks when helping students	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	see, a teacher like that'd have never survived in mp's school.	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	too easy to bully.	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	people'd have been sticking cunt drawings on her back for the rest of her life.	[03:37]
nubbins`	not sure if this was autoerotic or candida	[03:37]
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asciilifeform	nubbins`: teacher had no pockets? or, no hands ?	[03:37]
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kuzetsa	asciilifeform: women's clothing tends not to have many pockets :(	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform teacher rubbing vulva on corners is no indication of an absence of hands, pockets or brain.	[03:38]
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asciilifeform	today she'd own one of those radio-controlled insertables.	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	kuzetsa indeed, and ironically i suspect it's exactly for this reason.	[03:38]
kuzetsa	eww	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	no, srsly. controlling masturbation in little girls was much more a priority in victorian england that in teh case of boys	[03:39]
kuzetsa	no, I know	[03:39]
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kuzetsa	that's why I said eww	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: a historical annoyance, for all forms of state, is that folks can, in general, grow food without asking it permission first. <<< this brings to mind the ridiculous "permit to assemble" device.	[03:39]
mircea_popescu	"yes you may gather together to overthrow the state, just as long as you get an approval form stamped by said state"	[03:40]
decimation	re: luxury submarines: http://www.ussubmarines.com/ << supposedly can stay submerged for at least a week going 2 knots	[03:40]
assbot	U.S. SUBMARINES	[03:40]
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asciilifeform	there's two basic types of 'permission' - one where you can, without permission, but might catch some lead; and one where you actually can't ('promise vs. protocol')	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	decimation i tell you, if the tesla experiment works out we're going to see subs.	[03:40]
decimation	note that if you want go at any reasonable speed you must be on the surface, as ascii said	[03:41]
decimation	undersea charging is interesting	[03:41]
decimation	batteries still suck though	[03:41]
asciilifeform	you can charge inductively under the sea, but parasitic currents are a drag	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	there's nothing to do submerged anyway. the only real reason to move is abvout the same as getting new ips, ie, avoid the enemy.	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	for this reason, 2 knots is fine.	[03:41]
asciilifeform	(sea water conducts)	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i imagine some sort of copulatory connection will be standard.	[03:42]
asciilifeform	might want to wait for 'SOSUS' to finish falling apart before setting sail on microsubs	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	why ?	[03:42]
decimation	heh yeah that's a good point ascii	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	it's not currently able to handle massed targets well. this is, and has been, long known documented weakness	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	handwaved as "well if there's too many subs to track then that says all we wanted to know anyway rite ?"	[03:43]
asciilifeform	interesting fact, i think we might have spoken of it before - usg claims extraterritorial jurisdiction over... all ships.	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	so does any pirate. what of it ? claim is one thing.	[03:43]
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asciilifeform	fix RuBisCO, from its current ~2% efficiency to something like 50+ - and now you needn't the massive resupply points that make fat targets.	[03:44]
asciilifeform	for the 1000 ships tactic, the vessels must be properly autonomous	[03:45]
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decimation	asciilifeform: usg opts to allow the russian navy to exist in international waters: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/pentagon-russian-spy-ship-tug-operating-near-u-s/	[03:45]
assbot	Pentagon: Russian Spy Ship, Tug Operating Near U.S. \| Washington Free Beacon	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	a war is won by a) making fat targets that b) the enemy tries to take out but c) fails.	[03:45]
decimation	said Lt. Col. Tom Crosson, a Pentagon spokesman. ?We respect the freedom of all nations, as reflected in international law, to operate military vessels beyond the territorial seas of other nations.?	[03:45]
asciilifeform	decimation: or recall the chinese sub that test-fired ballistic rockets off the california coast recently.	[03:45]
asciilifeform	^ beautiful example of u.s. media hush campaign. vanished entirely from nearly everywhere within days of first mention.	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform im sure it's in the sub ed in colleges everywhere.	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	or maybe not.	[03:46]
decimation	re: usg rotting surveillance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Surveillance_System	[03:47]
assbot	Air Force Space Surveillance System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[03:47]
decimation	Due to resource constraints caused by sequestration, Air Force Space Command officials have directed the 21st Space Wing to prepare to discontinue operations at the Air Force Space Surveillance System by Oct. 1	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: eventual goal, for the state, is an endgame where you can't grow your own potato in secret any more than you can produce your own 14nm cpu. << eventual endgame, for the utopian socialist/nazist state, as for any utopian/figment of imagination, is human relevancy.	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	this is an unattainable goal for fundamental reasons.	[03:48]
decimation	the "space fence", transmitter blasted nearly 1 megawatt skyward to 'ping' off satellites	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	yet lucifer still doth try to fly.	[03:48]
*	asciilifeform wonders when ocean fiber reamplifiers will begin to include a few kg of trotyl with motion fuse, for meddlesome buggers	[03:48]
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decimation	re: gov't control: witness the usg attempting to "control" "guns"	[03:49]
asciilifeform	unattainable goal << their modus operandi is to cripple people in any available way, to inject 'relevancy.' no reason to think this won't continue with better tech.	[03:49]
decimation	"if we can't bring everyone up to your level then we will tear you down"	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	of course it will continue. it will continue not to work lol.	[03:50]
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mircea_popescu	obviously a car without an engine will continue to be a car without an engine for as long as hills and people willing to push can be found.	[03:51]
asciilifeform	decimation: ground-based gizmo obsoleted by orbital spybots	[03:51]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: the folks pushing the 'urban' ('totalitarian', etc, pick favourite term) << these seriously aren't equivalent.	[03:52]
asciilifeform	(how many of the latter still work - a different question)	[03:52]
decimation	asciilifeform: i.e. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Based_Space_Surveillance	[03:52]
assbot	Space Based Space Surveillance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	the hayseeds imagine the urban despisement of their simpletonism is the same as the utopian hatred of their self sufficiency.	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	this is untrue, it only looks similar because they're too far away.	[03:52]
asciilifeform	are these entirely separable?	[03:52]
mircea_popescu	i would say so, yes.	[03:52]
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mircea_popescu	(as to the other point, the orbital spybots are a crapshot. earth based antenna is obv the right approach to the problem)	[03:53]
asciilifeform	if we actually get the tech for rural non-simpletonism (keep own pigs -and- bake own 14nm cores) - we'll learn	[03:53]
decimation	it seems to me that the self sufficiency is more threatening to the omni-state	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: why did the rulers of ussr, china, etc. push so aggressively for mechanized agriculture? to free the plow-pullers from their toil so they can watch opera? << for efficiency.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it is impossible to have rural nonsimpletonism also for fundamental reasons.	[03:54]
asciilifeform	'efficiency' - 'takes function arguments.' efficiency at what, for whom.	[03:54]
mircea_popescu	you ever seen l'uomo delle stelle ?	[03:54]
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asciilifeform	nope	[03:55]
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mircea_popescu	you absolutely muyst see this film. the italian renaissance is important particularly because they peddle such exceptionaly clear, deep reaching intuitions.	[03:55]
decimation	most of the actual farmers I have met in the us are people - they can machine, weld, assemble own parts from scrap	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	now allow me to quote from my own recensy :	[03:55]
decimation	but they are a minority even in rural areas	[03:55]
asciilifeform	decimation: they can machine, weld, assemble own parts from scrap << sure. but can they build so much as a kalash round with own hands, to the required tolerances?	[03:56]
decimation	I would go with yes, many of them load their own ammo	[03:57]
asciilifeform	reload.	[03:57]
decimation	certainly peasants in pakistan can perform that feat	[03:57]
asciilifeform	decimation: nope.	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	meh i can't find where i said it. anyway, in that film, which is predicated on the notion that an urbanite goes in the rural other world (he's a fraudulent film talent scout, cinecita was a big deal in post war italy).	[03:57]
asciilifeform	they merely have access to seemingly-inexhaustible old war spoils	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	he is incredibly popular with the worms, for the obvious reason : a shot at their idea of a better life.	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	one of the worms in question is a shepherd. he says, 1950ish : "con le stelle se puo parlare".	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	fuckwit discovering the ancient sources of greek philosophy by hand on his own, two milenina late.	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	this is the reason you broadly cabn't have intelligent rural people : too contemplative, by the nature of what rural means.	[03:59]
*	asciilifeform always supposed that it was because they cannot have proper 'division of labour'	[03:59]
mircea_popescu	nah.	[03:59]
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mircea_popescu	it's because they don't get the incentive or the opportunity to use a large swath of the brain.	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	think, the rural noob in town has been the lol of the town's margins anywhere anytime, pick a society. coincidence ?	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	i think not.	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	to put it in the terms of the anonimity as urban/rural dispute article : the rural guy can run software without ever needing a garbage collector, because no program ever covers memory.	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	now this may be just fine and dandy "for some applications", but it's not a computer.	[04:01]
decimation	places like silicon valley were started by rural folk from the midwest, founded fairchild & invented modern transistors and IC's	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	decimation mind, i'm not arguing the people themselves are broken.	[04:01]
asciilifeform	'…like a refugee from very rural Pakistan who gets relocated to Oslo, Norway, and still thinks that he could make better food if he were only allowed to light a fire in his living room instead of using that complex electric stove. (This is a real news item. Every now and then, landlords discover indoor fireplaces and occasionally the “newbies” to civilization burn down the building.)' (herr naggum)	[04:01]
mircea_popescu	but the environment is unconducive.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform probably related problem, tho those are usually hunters.	[04:02]
decimation	well, there's no doubt that they had to come to the city to meet the son of IBM founder to get money to start the operation	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	decimation not just money.	[04:02]
asciilifeform	decimation: philo farnsworth invented the raster scan while plowing a field. there's always a weirdo exception.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	people who have to come to b-a to start a successful operation don't need just the money, or even the money at all.	[04:02]
decimation	most of them worked in big east coast corporations for several years first, true	[04:03]
mircea_popescu	and again, the idea that there's something wrong with the people involved is patent nonsense. kids come from the vilage to town and do better than kids born in town all the time.	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	but the environment doth not allow specific things.	[04:04]
*	asciilifeform 'east cost corporations' << had the distinct impression that most of the people here never had to walk the u.s. большая зона	[04:04]
*	nubbins` gets the vague sense that gribs could use a !translate plugin	[04:05]
asciilifeform	!s большая зона	[04:05]
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asciilifeform	damn	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR1A4ohq6w0 :D	[04:05]
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asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770509	[04:05]
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asciilifeform	there we go.	[04:05]
decimation	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traitorous_eight	[04:06]
assbot	Traitorous eight - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	is this the chinese thing ?	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	o nm	[04:07]
decimation	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Noyce "In the summer of 1940, at the age of 12, he built a boy-sized aircraft with his brother, which they used to fly from the roof of the Grinnell College stables. "	[04:07]
assbot	Robert Noyce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[04:07]
decimation	obviously if Mr. Noyce had stayed in Iowa he would have been an advanced farmer, not the founder of modern semiconductor business	[04:08]
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asciilifeform	in modern usa, noyce would rot in own juices in a psychiatric ward.	[04:08]
decimation	quite possibly yes	[04:08]
asciilifeform	(or derp on 'reddit')	[04:08]
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mircea_popescu	shockley is perhaps the best example of totally nutso master running his harem straight into a wall.	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	prolly a good case study	[04:09]
asciilifeform	howard hughes (around same time)	[04:09]
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asciilifeform	not an uncommon pattern	[04:10]
decimation	fortunately they had the sense to follow noyce into the middle of nowhere and start a new business	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	at least hughes was not a boring stolid "social improvement" type.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	from experience girls will forget flamboyant failure much easier than boring drudgery.	[04:10]
asciilifeform	shockley did, if i recall, hit upon the idea of building a sperm bank to.. hand out own sperm	[04:10]
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mircea_popescu	wasn't he the guy who overengineered a diode while neglecting transistors to the point nobody could afford it ?	[04:12]
decimation	yeah he basically said "forget about the transistor, really complicated diodes are the future"	[04:13]
asciilifeform	'Shockley was the only one to publicly acknowledge his donation to the sperm bank.' (pediwikia)	[04:13]
decimation	that was pretty much when noyce et. al. bailed	[04:13]
asciilifeform	diode logic is a complete logic, incidentally.	[04:13]
decimation	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shockley_diode	[04:13]
assbot	Shockley diode - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[04:13]
asciilifeform	(so it isn't entirely clear that he was wrong)	[04:14]
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decimation	no, but apparently after he got his Nobel prize he became an insufferable ass	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	decimation this is a particular sort of methodological error strategists of the "too clean" variety make. the error is to imagine that what's in question is whether the new thing is promising (positive) rather than broken (negative). fact is any new thing that isn't broken will probably outperform any current thing simply because business is about growth.	[04:14]
asciilifeform	like many successful/creative types, he had a 'red dwarf phase' of life	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	and by too clean i mean the sort that doesn't bareback random whores because "who knows what may happen"	[04:15]
asciilifeform	!s simulated annealing	[04:16]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform was this where i was disagreeing with locklin's similar idiocy ?	[04:17]
asciilifeform	possibly	[04:17]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-02-2014#515199	[04:17]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[04:17]
asciilifeform	^ old discussion of why china failed to technoclobber europe	[04:18]
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mircea_popescu	ah yes.	[04:18]
asciilifeform	(too 'cold' in the simulated annealing sense. i.e., not psychotic enough.)	[04:19]
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decimation	the problem is that with something like computing, it's "somewhat broken"	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	where is the locklin one. basically his thesis was that "printed guns will never work because the barrel isn't sexy"	[04:19]
asciilifeform	hans eysenck's 'psychoticism'	[04:19]
decimation	the broken-ness becomes a negative externality that is distributed randomly	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	decimation well if there weren't problems...	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ah i see what you mean. i took it literally :D	[04:20]
asciilifeform	as i recall, locklin's observation was that 'printed' gun is a technowankerous curio, vastly inferior to an aggregation of discarded plumbing parts and a rusty nail	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	which it is. and yet... the discussion isn't whether it looks promising (in the terms of today)	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	somewhat vaguely related : the nbc producers that decided to greenlight seinfeld, the largest grossing production in the history of nbc and the thing that even made sitcoms a thing	[04:22]
asciilifeform	speaking of which, time for today's 'sovietism.' not one english-speaking fellow i've met seemed to know, that you can machine arbitrarily hard metals with no cutting elements (no noise, no wear, no need for massive ballscrews or slides, etc.)	[04:22]
asciilifeform	electrolytically.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	are on the record stating something like "well these two idiots came in, one a complete nobody , the other a dork, but we figured... whatever, it's just a script, we've not spent that much money on it"	[04:22]
asciilifeform	this was perfected in ussr, and the only vendor of electrolytic mills (which could trivially 'etch' small - or large - arms of whatever kind, on a desktop) is still russian.	[04:23]
asciilifeform	it was a response to the nato embargo on selling 6-axis milling machines to the sovblok.	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform is it expensive to do ?	[04:23]
asciilifeform	expensive but only in electrical current.	[04:23]
asciilifeform	in materials, pauper-cheap.	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	hehe. "build a nuclear plant you're done"	[04:23]
asciilifeform	no need for exotic cutters or quality slides	[04:23]
asciilifeform	and the hardness of the material being cut doesn't matter at all - so long as it conducts.	[04:24]
decimation	you can achieve good tolerances too	[04:24]
asciilifeform	also scales down. (but no one, afaik, has scaled it.)	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	can you make a tungsten carbide shooter ?	[04:24]
asciilifeform	if you're fine with waiting a year for the, e.g., pistol, draw 1 amp instead of 1000.	[04:25]
asciilifeform	tungsten carbide is brittle. but - yes, trivially.	[04:25]
decimation	I wish 'maker' derps would build machining devices rather than plastic molders	[04:25]
asciilifeform	decimation: they do.	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	decimation consumer society loves plastic. it'd shove it in its collective vagina if it could.	[04:25]
asciilifeform	is diametric awake?	[04:26]
asciilifeform	he owns a cnc mill, the size of a tv set.	[04:26]
asciilifeform	(but he's a thinking man; no idea what 'maker derps' do)	[04:26]
decimation	yeah I guess cnc mill counts for that	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	you know one of you two needs to get a real name thing going. it's so fucking difficult for me to keep diametric and decimation apart in my head.	[04:26]
decimation	or cnc lathe	[04:26]
*	asciilifeform is satisfied with conventional lathe. but milling is another matter	[04:27]
decimation	heh perhaps I should pick an orthogonal basis	[04:27]
asciilifeform	point of the above unfinished tale is, most of the difficulty of machining as a field revolves around the unwanted sequelae of having to cut metal with metal.	[04:27]
asciilifeform	(or with a 'knife' in the general sense)	[04:28]
decimation	you mean dealing with broken bits, shavings, heat etc?	[04:28]
asciilifeform	and annealing.	[04:28]
asciilifeform	it is more or less impossible to anneal (and, opposite, harden) all but the smallest objects in 'jungle conditions'	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	the friction heat'd be the problem	[04:28]
asciilifeform	'work hardening', yes	[04:28]
asciilifeform	you cut, and the metal in that place is now hardenes.	[04:28]
asciilifeform	*hardened	[04:28]
asciilifeform	have to take the piece out of the machine, anneal (soften) it, re-mount, re-align...	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform actually one should be able to anneal in jungle conditions. put gun on rock, put lens on gun around 7am. by early morning next...	[04:29]
asciilifeform	need even heat and specific 'curve.'	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	but the sun heat is even.	[04:30]
decimation	what about plasma cutter? wouldn't that heat while cutting?	[04:30]
asciilifeform	yes, you can build an oven 'archimedes'-style	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	something like that yea.	[04:30]
asciilifeform	plasma cutter is generally a 2d affair.	[04:30]
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mircea_popescu	decimation you familiar with adiabatic as a concept ?	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	"too fast for meaningful heat exchange"	[04:31]
decimation	yeah that makes sense, too little mass in contact	[04:31]
asciilifeform	outside of the russian world, electrolytic machining only caught on in 2d - this is how circuit boards are made. (photographic etching)	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform iirc plasma cutting is 2d for a very similar reason : too damned expensive.	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	there is some 3d ablative tech sort-of similar, but mostly limited to medicinal use	[04:32]
decimation	well water-jet cutting is up there too	[04:33]
asciilifeform	heat deforms.	[04:33]
asciilifeform	this is a bitch if you actually care about 3d geometry	[04:33]
midnightmagic	where's rapatan when you need him	[04:34]
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TheNewDeal	water-jet ... that's what I do!	[04:35]
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mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal srsly ?	[04:39]
decimation	waterjet is pretty cool, but it has its own "sequelae", not fit for pauper-tech	[04:39]
TheNewDeal	yah. I just set em up	[04:39]
TheNewDeal	they cut out granite, marble, and man-made stone for the most part. I've heard some people cut steel with em	[04:39]
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TheNewDeal	counter-tops that is	[04:40]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/AR8UVBW	[04:40]
assbot	('chemistry and life') 1990, vol. 1, pp. 83 - Imgur	[04:40]
asciilifeform	^ posted for your pleasure	[04:40]
asciilifeform	for those who don't know russian, the photo should suffice.	[04:40]
asciilifeform	how to drill a hole without a drill.	[04:40]
TheNewDeal	they're CNC machines though, so you can do some cool in-lay stuff with em though http://imgur.com/Botjoww I did that with a guy in chicago	[04:41]
assbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[04:41]
asciilifeform	reprint of a 1973 article in same.	[04:41]
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asciilifeform	gears are routinely cut with waterjet, or plasma torch, or electric arc (not to be confused with electrolytic) machine.	[04:42]
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asciilifeform	but none of these are pauperizable.	[04:42]
asciilifeform	and they all require skill.	[04:42]
decimation	asciilifeform: why do all of these machines continue to use "g-code"?	[04:42]
asciilifeform	article suggests a useful 'household' application for the demo - poke a hole in a hardened steel knife where the handle fell off, to bolt on new handle.	[04:43]
asciilifeform	try this with an ordinary drill! (without annealing to destroy knife's temper)	[04:43]
asciilifeform	decimation: g-code << it's just simple coordinate motions, with some commands to specify tool changes, splines, etc. what would you have them use?	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal pretty cool.	[04:44]
TheNewDeal	pauperizable? a monkey could run this machine	[04:44]
asciilifeform	but could a monkey purchase it.	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	!up Bitcoin1011	[04:44]
-assbot-	You voiced Bitcoin1011 for 30 minutes.	[04:44]
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TheNewDeal	a monkey with a cool 250k	[04:44]
asciilifeform	lol	[04:44]
TheNewDeal	thats funny money, not bitcoin	[04:44]
TheNewDeal	decimation - yes g-code is used	[04:45]
decimation	asciilifeform: something turing-complete?	[04:45]
TheNewDeal	we draw all the programs out with software called alphacam , our company adds on a toolbar that automatically generates the g-code, then you literally just upload it to the machine and hit go	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	i always was kinda fascinated by gem inlay/cutting.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	maybe when i retire i make myself a lab.	[04:46]
Bitcoin1011	Hi guys and girls, I'm looking for an android app developer with Bitcoin protocol experience, can anyone direct me?	[04:46]
asciilifeform	turing-complete << this brings up another interesting observation - none of today's machine tools give the computer any feedback, beyond slide end-stop sensors	[04:46]
asciilifeform	(even those are often absent from small machines)	[04:46]
asciilifeform	the computer has no idea what, if anything, was actually cut - and hwo	[04:46]
asciilifeform	*how	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	Bitcoin1011 maybe RagnarDanneskjol when he wakes up.	[04:46]
asciilifeform	an electrolytic mill could, conceivably, know how much metal was actually removed at time 't'	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	but for that matter, so am i, the kids with the apps haven't yet discovered bitcoin pays better.	[04:47]
asciilifeform	(current flow sensor, and, if clever, modulated current, exploit 'skin effect')	[04:47]
decimation	asciilifeform: that's an interesting point	[04:47]
Bitcoin1011	thank you	[04:47]
asciilifeform	i bring up electrolytic machining to explore a point - that tech meant for 'jungle conditions' is a very different field from what is presently dealt with by 'sane' engineers.	[04:47]
Bitcoin1011	Is he involved in other mobile apps in the space for my reference?	[04:47]
decimation	for conductive metals you could measure resistance of liquid	[04:48]
asciilifeform	the '3d printer' folks are still, by and large, thinking like 'normal' engineers.	[04:48]
asciilifeform	e.g., their only public suggestion thus far for metalwork is laser sintering - cribbed straight from ordinary industry	[04:49]
TheNewDeal	believing they can accomplish everything with one shitty machine?	[04:49]
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asciilifeform	sintering is only used in 'real life', generally, when there is no other choice (ceramics, and metals that really don't behave well in a mill like tungsten)	[04:50]
decimation	to me the obvious use for plastic turd is to make molds for metal pouring	[04:50]
decimation	I think titanium falls in that category sometimes too	[04:51]
asciilifeform	Ti is pyrophoric but machineable if you must.	[04:51]
decimation	but the process of melting and pouring most metals in jungle conditions is not very reliable	[04:52]
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asciilifeform	chairman mao's backyard furnaces, yes.	[04:52]
asciilifeform	'homo redditicus' will not be casting, machining, water-jetting, or lasering cannon.	[04:52]
asciilifeform	but he might etch them.	[04:52]
asciilifeform	(now that we helpfully pointed out how.)	[04:53]
decimation	re: laser sintering: it seems to me that it is likely that you are going to leave "air bubbles" in the resulting metal, since you are melting piecemeal	[04:54]
asciilifeform	not merely likely, but certain.	[04:54]
asciilifeform	but the crystal structure disruption is the bigger deal there.	[04:54]
decimation	you are making "metal stew" instead of smooth puree	[04:55]
asciilifeform	correct.	[04:55]
decimation	http://www.materialsviews.com/making-titanium-cheaper-hydrogen-sintering/ "To achieve high density and low oxygen titanium powder is typically sintered in high vacuum."	[04:56]
assbot	Making Titanium Cheaper: Hydrogen Sintering	[04:56]
decimation	thus negating the low cost benefit	[04:56]
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TheNewDeal	what the hell do you all mean jungle conditions?	[04:56]
asciilifeform	TheNewDeal: resources available to an average person of modest means and lukewarm enthusiasm	[04:57]
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TheNewDeal	ahhh	[04:57]
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TheNewDeal	I could get you a waterjet... but it may just be a super-soaker with a paint job	[04:57]
decimation	even if you had a free high-quality waterjet, one would have program, get water+abrasive, monitor cut closely, maintain jet machine	[04:58]
decimation	none of which are going to be cheap or simple	[04:58]
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decimation	http://reason.com/reasontv/2014/08/12/tech-visionary-george-gilder-bitcoin-is << not the most articulate, but mildly interesting	[05:00]
assbot	Tech Visionary George Gilder: "Bitcoin is the Libertarian Solution to the Money Enigma." - Reason.com	[05:00]
decimation	it's obvious that there's a segment of silicon valley circus that sees bitcoin as a way to exit from usg	[05:02]
TheNewDeal	I just don't get why they think it's all about some party	[05:02]
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TheNewDeal	It's not libertarian - anybody can use it	[05:03]
decimation	TheNewDeal: libertarians are going to claim whatever success they think they are aligned with, for facebook likes.	[05:05]
TheNewDeal	^laughs	[05:05]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/AR8UVBW	[05:06]
assbot	('chemistry and life') 1990, vol. 1, pp. 83 - Imgur	[05:06]
asciilifeform	^ now with english translation!	[05:06]
decimation	my uncle was a research chemist (retired) at a large chemical firm in rural us. he was always complaining about the low quality of "chemists" who graduate from us schools	[05:08]
asciilifeform	decimation: aside from the unremarkable decay across the board of all things u.s., there is a specific phenomenon at work on chemists. in most u.s. schools, they do not actually teach chemistry. instead, they carry out an eleborate 'hazing ritual' for would-be med school applicants.	[05:08]
asciilifeform	the students are asked to simply memorize the book of, e.g, organic reactions.	[05:09]
asciilifeform	with little-to-none attention to principles	[05:09]
*	asciilifeform did a 'second tour of duty' in undergrad ochem, as adult. and saw this alive.	[05:10]
decimation	this is because of the relative high status of a doctor compared to a chemist actually working in a big chemical corporation	[05:10]
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asciilifeform	decimation: they could have, in principle, decreed two sets of chemistry courses, one for med-muppetry, one for would-be chemists. but this did not happen.	[05:10]
asciilifeform	* 'second tour of duty' in undergrad --- ochem << missing punctuation matters	[05:11]
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decimation	it is interesting how the us status hierarchy (bureaucrats on top, producers of things on bottom) has all kinds of distorting effects -- all of which is funded by the distortion of bezzle money	[05:12]
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asciilifeform	when and where did 'producers' inhabit anywhere but the 'bottom' ?	[05:13]
asciilifeform	big chemical corporation:	[05:14]
asciilifeform	;;google "call in the lab nigger"	[05:14]
gribble	Nigger (dog) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Urban Dictionary: lab: ; Urban Dictionary: bitch ass nigga:	[05:14]
asciilifeform	fail	[05:15]
asciilifeform	http://www.science-bbs.com/46-chem/9132b93eb4930bc0.htm	[05:15]
assbot	chem, Contracting Chemist - legal issues	[05:15]
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decimation	good point. http://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/07/13/how-the-other-half-works-an-adventure-in-the-low-status-of-software-engineers/	[05:15]
assbot	How the Other Half Works: an Adventure in the Low Status of Software Engineers \| Michael O. Church	[05:15]
decimation	managing stuff is always going to be lower status than managing humans, for obvious reasons	[05:17]
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asciilifeform	decimation: trivially true by mere definition.	[05:18]
decimation	nevertheless, as mircea_popescu points out, business is about growth, and growth is about knowing how to manage stuff	[05:19]
asciilifeform	required reading:	[05:20]
asciilifeform	http://www.loper-os.org/pub/codemonkey.pdf	[05:20]
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decimation	lol. apparently some monkeys recognize the usefulness of the code monkey	[05:32]
TheNewDeal	Quote from Tech Visionary George Glider "satoshi's worth a million bucks!"	[05:32]
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peterl	ping fluffypony	[05:32]
asciilifeform	decimation: usefulness - and malleability.	[05:32]
TheNewDeal	actually he may have said billion	[05:33]
asciilifeform	(summary of paper: monkey is taught to solve a puzzle which unlocks a dispenser of tasty food. is placed in a cage of 'uneducated' monkeys. is then reliably beaten into dispensing the food for the 'bosses.')	[05:34]
decimation	this is roughly the deal most "managers of stuff" find themselves in: we will pretend you are a normal human as long as you give us stuff	[05:35]
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asciilifeform	incidentally, for anyone who actually wants to try electrochemical machining, here is how NOT to do it:	[05:44]
asciilifeform	http://reprap.org/wiki/Electrochemical_Machining	[05:44]
assbot	Electrochemical Machining - RepRapWiki	[05:44]
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asciilifeform	these unfortunates, who, one can surmise, don't know russian, neglected the detail that one must pump the electrolyte.	[05:44]
asciilifeform	the moving 'cutter' must be a nozzle where only a small area of liquid contacts the place to be cut.	[05:44]
asciilifeform	on account of your electrolyte being, by definition, conductive - you can pump it electrohydrodynamically.	[05:45]
asciilifeform	the funny thing is - they appear to understand exactly why the naive approach results in a putrid mess instead of the desired cut.	[05:46]
asciilifeform	but never made the obvious conclusion.	[05:46]
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TheNewDeal	surprised by everyone's knowledge or machining/etc in here.	[05:53]
TheNewDeal	I have only read the first few lines, but what's this one on http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/ ?	[05:57]
assbot	The Most Serene Republic, and its laws. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[05:57]
decimation	TheNewDeal: you mean the Shakespeare play?	[06:01]
TheNewDeal	it's just a trilema article written like shakespeare, no?	[06:01]
decimation	no I'm pretty sure it's a direct quote from the merchant of venice	[06:02]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/OBujdtC	[06:04]
assbot	ECM for the thick - Imgur	[06:04]
asciilifeform	^ for the thick	[06:04]
asciilifeform	if clever, emplace a magnetic field of the appropriate geometry around the fluid intake/return channels, so it is propelled entirely electrically. if even more clever, emplace a system in the reservoir to re-separate the metal from the electrolyte.	[06:05]
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decimation	asciilifeform: to be clear, you want to restrict the contact area of the "working liquid" to keep from ruining the whole sample, right?	[06:06]
asciilifeform	corret.	[06:07]
asciilifeform	c	[06:07]
asciilifeform	alternatively, use a clever electrolyte that is only an electrolyte where illuminated by a laser.	[06:08]
decimation	so I was going to ask about photo-etching	[06:08]
asciilifeform	photo-etching is century-old SOP.	[06:08]
asciilifeform	but strictly 2d.	[06:08]
TheNewDeal	sop?	[06:09]
asciilifeform	standard op. proc.	[06:09]
TheNewDeal	that's what I was thinking...	[06:09]
asciilifeform	every circuit board you own was created that way.	[06:10]
TheNewDeal	I've worked in manufacturing envirorments for a few years now, was quite familiar with that acronym but didn't think you were using it for some reason	[06:10]
asciilifeform	(unless you're a weirdo with a cnc mill and a very fine bit)	[06:10]
decimation	well, and silicon die too, more or less	[06:12]
asciilifeform	aye.	[06:12]
decimation	it is odd that the process you are proposing is very similar to existing precision volume manufacturing yet has no "buy-in" from industry	[06:13]
asciilifeform	because it has piss-poor ROI in ordinary industry (unless you're the ussr)	[06:14]
asciilifeform	but for desktop machining - perfect. so long as you aren't in a hurry.	[06:14]
asciilifeform	prominently missing from the napkin sketch is a number of necessaries (means for cooling the electrolyte, scrubbing metal out of it, positioning of the head, etc)	[06:15]
asciilifeform	but should be clear to the alert reader that such things cannot be overlooked.	[06:16]
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asciilifeform	you must also vent (or burn) the H and the O	[06:17]
asciilifeform	don't do it in your living room.	[06:17]
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asciilifeform	'this has been a production of Orcish Science for the Human Experimentalist (TM). Hope you enjoyed the show.'	[06:18]
decimation	lol	[06:18]
asciilifeform	'check out our other installments, such as Balanced Trinary Computing and Electrically Induced REM Sleep.'	[06:19]
asciilifeform	'all source code in REFAL, available on magnetized wire.'	[06:20]
decimation	REFAL?	[06:20]
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asciilifeform	!s refal	[06:20]
assbot	2 results for 'refal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=refal	[06:20]
asciilifeform	think 'lisp-like forth' or 'forth-like lisp' but that doesn't really cover it.	[06:21]
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decimation	heh. when I was young I taught myself programming with "user RPN" on HP calculator	[06:22]
decimation	"user RPL" that is	[06:23]
decimation	which in retrospect is basically lisp I guess	[06:23]
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*	asciilifeform was sometimes allowed to borrow one of these: http://rk86.com/frolov/mk61-5.jpg	[06:23]
decimation	heh was that an hp knockoff?	[06:24]
asciilifeform	not exactly	[06:24]
asciilifeform	it was its own animal.	[06:24]
asciilifeform	even had microcode bugs that were 'useful'	[06:24]
decimation	original hp48 looked like it was styled in east germany: http://www.thimet.de/CalcCollection/Calculators/HP-48GX/HP-48GPlus-M.JPG I loved the clicky "tic-tac" keyboard	[06:25]
asciilifeform	when you borked it, it would display this:	[06:25]
asciilifeform	http://lurkmore.to/%D0%95%D0%93%D0%93%D0%9E%D0%93	[06:25]
assbot	Lurkmore	[06:25]
asciilifeform	and we always wondered what an 'EGGOG' was.	[06:25]
decimation	lol	[06:26]
TheNewDeal	something really bad obviously	[06:26]
TheNewDeal	similar to eggnog	[06:26]
decimation	asciilifeform: have you studied Greek, since Cyril gave you the same typography?	[06:27]
asciilifeform	not other than superficially.	[06:28]
asciilifeform	for some reason folks who lived in latinate script all their life are obsessed with typography	[06:30]
asciilifeform	as if it were ever the 'hard part'	[06:30]
decimation	heh yeah it's pretty easy to memorize another alphabet, it's much harder to remember grammar & vocabulary	[06:30]
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asciilifeform	poor englishfolk don't even have character encoding in-jokes - e.g. http://lurkmore.to/%D0%91%D0%9D%D0%9E%D0%9F%D0%9D%D0%AF	[06:40]
assbot	Lurkmore	[06:40]
asciilifeform	(bad encoding settings often result in hilariously-pronounceable garbage, some of which entered circulation as euphemism and otherwise)	[06:40]
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decimation	«оепейкчвх акъ йндхпнбйс!»	[06:46]
decimation	unfortunately the encoding jokes don't translate on google	[06:47]
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kakobrekla	satisfying log. keep up the good work.	[06:53]
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decimation	lol I didn't realize that there was a controversy about how to spell "Ukraine" in Cyrillic http://lurkmore.to/В/на	[06:59]
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decimation	lol	[07:01]
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asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/cHWju2Y << re: orcs.	[07:18]
assbot	Pigsty. - Imgur	[07:18]
decimation	this lurkomore is a hilarious combination of wikipedia, pravda, and 4chan	[07:20]
asciilifeform	more like 'encyclopaedia dramatica' but more entertaining.	[07:20]
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mircea_popescu	ahh that was nice.	[07:26]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell Bitcoin1011: Is he involved in other mobile apps in the space for my reference? << no, he's the resident talent scout.	[07:28]
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mircea_popescu	decimation: to me the obvious use for plastic turd is to make molds for metal pouring << metal pouring is a very iffy proposition tho.	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	assbot: Tech Visionary George Gilder: "Bitcoin is the Libertarian Solution to the Money Enigma." - Reason.com << what is this, "i've caught up to 2011 let me tell you what i have now discovered" ?	[07:30]
decimation	yeah professionals are constantly monitoring temperature, chemical tests, adding various trace elements	[07:30]
mircea_popescu	it's starting to amze me, the natural cargo-cult-ish inclination of most english space dwellers. it's a sort of, 1. learn french ; 2. read some fragments of rousseau at local library, by themselves ; 3. start blog to impart your discovery that you call "the social deal" to the world.	[07:31]
decimation	mircea_popescu: indeed, these folks are slow on the uptake, but it is amusing to see reflections on the edge of 'real media'	[07:31]
mircea_popescu	instead of the more normal 1. learn french ; 2. read some fragments of rousseau at local library ; 3. proceed to read the 200 years' worth of discussion on rousseau	[07:31]
mircea_popescu	the rough equivalent would be, peasant goes to plow field, finds roman coin trove, mounts them in his nose, goes about town like he's invented african tribalism.	[07:32]
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mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal: I just don't get why they think it's all about some party << because if it's about something in their system then that validates the system in question.	[07:33]
mircea_popescu	"look how right we are, and how relevant to the future and general affairs as a going concern : even this bitcoin thing is about something we discuss."	[07:33]
mircea_popescu	for this same reason a newtonian physics professor would rather entertain phlogiston than string theory.	[07:34]
decimation	you have to understand, the "Libertarian party" in the US is a perennial loser, they are desperate to attach to anything that smells of success.	[07:35]
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mircea_popescu	moreover, the actual loser in the us, ie, the actual us, is desperate to attach the current representation of their eventual doom to something that's a perennial loser.	[07:35]
mircea_popescu	which is why i was talking about "in ron paul terms" yest.	[07:35]
mircea_popescu	makes one feel better about onesefl if can at least claim bitcoin is like you know, "that thing that's bee going on forever at the outskirts".	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	"the geese are not roused by the germans, but by the crows outside the gate".	[07:36]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/AR8UVBW << quoted for the battery. now that EXACT battery, so exact that a vague outline thereof is the most that's needed and the most a person of taste and discrimination would ever draw, for fear of being you know, boringingly fastidious, is a 4.5 volt 3 cell mangan oxide battery that was the most important element of my childhood.	[07:38]
assbot	('chemistry and life') 1990, vol. 1, pp. 83 - Imgur	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	everything important depended on it	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh110/Ovidanie/Baterie45VElba1.jpg	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	best gift ever, too.	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	you could taste how full it was, also.	[07:38]
mircea_popescu	just strong enough to rig it to girl's bits productively, all sorts of surprising uses.	[07:39]
mircea_popescu	http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh110/Ovidanie/Album%20nou/BaterieElba.jpg << bottom shot. paper casing.	[07:39]
decimation	one rarely encounters such batteries in the us	[07:39]
mircea_popescu	this was more of a 60s 70s and somewhat 80s thing.	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	the 9 volt cell things took over eventually.	[07:40]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: with little-to-none attention to principles << the reason would be that chemistry is not a science. physics is the science. if the kids wanted the principles they'd go for physics. if they didn't that means they don't wish to understand the thing, but merely you know... be engineers :D	[07:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00070388 = 21.2924 BTC [-] {2}	[07:42]
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decimation	most "Libertarians" are pretty much leftists with a slight preference for more "personal freedom" (the kind without personal responsibility)	[07:44]
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mircea_popescu	the problem with letting people self identify instead of having third parties identify them is that people will mis-selfidentify.	[07:45]
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mircea_popescu	part of why the wot is so fucking useful. "you're not a ceo until mp says you're a ceo" has, along with its excellent oppressive potential, some incredible value in practice.	[07:45]
mircea_popescu	" you will need to swap the electrolyte a few times, and clean the cavity (at least with a nail) from the products of electrolysis." from the imgur in question. this is not strictly true : in some cases the electrolyte products are protective, in some cases however they are not. depends a lot what we're drilling. (this is roughly why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say.)	[07:47]
mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal: it's just a trilema article written like shakespeare, no? << it's the merchant of venice ye lout! :D	[07:49]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: but for desktop machining - perfect. so long as you aren't in a hurry. << well no, see, electricity is still sold by the watt. whether you're in a hurry or not, you still need same wattage, so still are beholden to the same (rather high) cost. so i suppose "so long as you're making something small enough for your fun doing it to be worth the 0.001 cent to 1/4 dollar price transition"	[07:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 430 @ 0.00475215 = 2.0434 BTC [+] {8}	[07:53]
decimation	asciilifeform: http://ebayitem.com/301199083821 << cheap GPS module that has variable pulse output up to 20 MHz, good for lab signal source	[07:54]
assbot	Ublox Neo 7M GPS GNSS Module Built in Data Memory Replace Neo 6M \| eBay	[07:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: and we always wondered what an 'EGGOG' was. << ahaha that's so cute.	[07:55]
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mircea_popescu	in this spirit : my old z80 clone had an english "codeword" instruction set printed out right on the kbd, as was fashionable at the time.	[07:56]
mircea_popescu	the word merge was there, which in romanian means "it works" (technically, "it goes") and is often a colloquialism "-merge ? -merge, merge" roughly works to "how goes it ? " "okay I guess".	[07:56]
mircea_popescu	so yeah, i used to include 10. Merge Merge instructions in basic programs.	[07:57]
decimation	I always wondered about non-English-speaking folk who had to learn "Englishisms" to program computers when I was younger	[07:58]
decimation	I guess the default situation is that if you can program a computer, you can learn english too	[07:58]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: satisfying log. keep up the good work. << i guess we're all labrats in kako's little lab experiment.	[07:58]
mircea_popescu	AND HES EXPLOITING US	[07:58]
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mircea_popescu	decimation it's a curse hiding a blessing : in learning english as the pronounceable pigdin of computer symbols, one learns to disrespect the social conventions the language carries otherwise.	[07:59]
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mircea_popescu	pretty much the only correct way to learn english, if you ask me.	[07:59]
decimation	sounds legit	[07:59]
mircea_popescu	then one readily progresses, about the age of 16 or so, to realise that necessarily the same is true of their own naitve language	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	at which point sudden immunity to say salesmen develops.	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	"just because you say goto 10 don't expect me to care, nitwit"	[08:00]
mircea_popescu	suddenly the coder kid discovers he can be a much better lawyer than most judges specifically because he can read a cleaner version of the text than people who learned it on the "linguistics" path.	[08:01]
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ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[08:01]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 472.0, Best ask: 473.39, Bid-ask spread: 1.39000, Last trade: 473.39, 24 hour volume: 17210.88179869, 24 hour low: 471.6, 24 hour high: 493.98, 24 hour vwap: 482.928376209	[08:01]
ThickAsThieves	sorry guys	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	maybe not as clean ultimately but certainly cleaner per unit effort.	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves how goes ?	[08:01]
ThickAsThieves	awesome	[08:01]
ThickAsThieves	been shorting the shit outta btc	[08:01]
mircea_popescu	lol. making out like a bandit ?	[08:02]
ThickAsThieves	embarrasingly	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	good for you.	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	don't get caught outdoors now.	[08:02]
ThickAsThieves	inded	[08:02]
decimation	Mr. Yarvin experienced something similiar w.r.t. American culture: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-i-stopped-believing-in-democracy.html "For example, the first thing I remember from my first year in Maryland was something called a "pep rally." For those of you who did not attend an American public high school, a "pep rally" is basically a straight ripoff of what Albert Speer did at Nuremberg, except that (a)	[08:02]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[08:02]
decimation	it is indoors, (b) there is not quite as much fire, and (c) there is less saluting, more screaming, and about the same amount of chanting."	[08:02]
assbot	Unqualified Reservations: How I stopped believing in democracy	[08:02]
mircea_popescu	btw asciilifeform here's one for you : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aerj4qXPHJc	[08:03]
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assbot	Prikoke (fabula animata) - YouTube	[08:03]
mircea_popescu	planeta moldova being pretty much the only claim to cultural fame/intellectual achievement of the imaginary country of "moldavia".	[08:04]
mircea_popescu	the interesting thing with those people however is that they speak and old, and for this reason arguably more powerful version of romanian (still with the very romanian "all other languages are just romanian badly pronounced") and they're all fluent in russian. especially the huy-russian part of russian.	[08:04]
mircea_popescu	the result being a scary fucking combo of psychotic expressivity (they also drink a lot, ukrainian style).	[08:05]
mircea_popescu	decimation and less tits. the few (like,4 or so) actual participants at the things i ever talk too, all 4 mostly went there for the braless wonders in attendance. it was apparently THE place to meet chicks.	[08:06]
mircea_popescu	and speaking of which, http://static.entertainmentwise.com/gallery/BRITNEY2_BRALESS_WONDER.jpg	[08:07]
decimation	yeah American high school is weird that way, pretty much a mechanism for ascii's monkeys to identify the "useful" monkeys and begin the beatings	[08:08]
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decimation	Mr. Yarvin goes on: "If you are an American raising kids abroad and you want to reintroduce them to your country, I highly recommend this sort of shock-and-awe approach. Having to deal with an American high school was not pleasant, but it gave me a certain respect for America: it exists. Once you go to college, you are no longer in the real America. You are in a fortified outpost of future America, which has been planted in the real	[08:09]
decimation	America to enlighten and assimilate it."	[08:09]
decimation	That seems pretty much true in my experience	[08:09]
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mircea_popescu	you know it's bizarre, because it didn't work that way in romania of yore. we had a pretty sweet tacit agreement where the slower girls could copy for exams. generally there was a boy-genius in charge for any subject (chemistry was HARD and a chick did it, but otherwise was boys) and the guy in charge usually prepared a "for the class" version of the test (something that gave good marks but was a) comprehensible for th	[08:10]
mircea_popescu	e common man - or woman - so they'd not be embarassed if teacher asked followups and b) was credibly something they could come up with while still correct above a C lvl)	[08:10]
mircea_popescu	this resulted in a very docile and obedient population. they, for instance, always took notes. we never did.	[08:10]
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decimation	generally in the us none of the kids in "regular class" give a shit about grades, learning, etc, which creates a different social dynamic	[08:11]
mircea_popescu	at the time in question, you literally could not go on a date if you sucked in school.	[08:12]
decimation	because no one was going to beat them if they failed basic pre-algebra	[08:12]
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ben_vulpes	i learned at an early age the correlation between grades and what one learned	[08:12]
mircea_popescu	i mean you could be cool other ways, but an inability to ace something meant you, in so many words, sucked.	[08:12]
mircea_popescu	this attitude was principally what distinguished the privileged hs from the prole "vocational" w/e.	[08:12]
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mircea_popescu	so i guess in a sense the observed difference readily reduces to "well, the us is a true popular democracy : they have no privileged highschool, everyone goes to the prole vocational crapolade"	[08:13]
ben_vulpes	"no privileged highschool"	[08:14]
ben_vulpes	bahahahaha	[08:14]
decimation	yeah, if you had brains generally better schools made provision for you to escape to the 'nerd class'	[08:14]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes mind, privilege is a very specific thing.	[08:14]
decimation	but the context is set by prole thinking	[08:14]
mircea_popescu	it is when everyone else is taught to get out of your way because you are better than them.	[08:14]
ben_vulpes	i am indeed coming in on the tail of this one - to what specifically do you refer?	[08:14]
ben_vulpes	that's why i sniped the best public school girls throughout hs	[08:15]
mircea_popescu	ah but outside of personal experience, i'm discussiong a system.	[08:15]
mircea_popescu	obviously some kids will do fine in any conceivable arrangement.	[08:15]
ben_vulpes	storytime!	[08:15]
mircea_popescu	this is, in so many words, the whole hope of humanity.	[08:15]
ben_vulpes	actually i'll not interrupt.	[08:15]
mircea_popescu	im done :)	[08:15]
mircea_popescu	well not done with the logs and pinging ascii, but with this skein	[08:16]
ben_vulpes	well in that case	[08:16]
ben_vulpes	i attended a particular hs (OES, for the lurkers), and rode the bus home instead of driving as I got more reading time out of the experience.	[08:17]
ben_vulpes	OES being in deep southwest and my home being in the near SE (bezzlar-ployees having to live near the mega fabs and my father not being one, we lived in the cool part of town: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=218), i had much time to use for reading.	[08:17]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets bash	[08:17]
mircea_popescu	http://thechive.com/2012/10/18/where-were-going-you-wont-need-bras-55-photos/ tits, meanwhile. for the... lurkers.	[08:18]
assbot	Where we’re going, you won’t need bras (55 Photos) : : theCHIVE	[08:18]
cazalla	ATO released their bitcoin guidance today https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Gen/Tax-treatment-of-crypto-currencies-in-Australia---specifically-bitcoin/	[08:18]
assbot	Tax treatment of crypto-currencies in Australia - specifically bitcoin \| Australian Taxation Office	[08:18]
ben_vulpes	at some point during sophomore year i realized that my bus passed a local public hs, so i stopped in at the starbucks outside of campus, timing my arrival to be some days thirty minutes before class got out and some days thirty minutes after class got out (i had no rationale at the time, but it was a good call)	[08:19]
ben_vulpes	this made me many "friends" outside of school, and for a kid going to a school whose entire HS complement numberd 190, this mattered.	[08:20]
mircea_popescu	hs got campuses nao ? splurge.	[08:20]
ben_vulpes	i did	[08:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2450 @ 0.00070436 = 1.7257 BTC [+]	[08:20]
ben_vulpes	mpoe still trading in the sevens	[08:20]
decimation	mircea_popescu: "traditional" US high school has massive facility mostly serving school athletics	[08:21]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes almost looks like it may reach 6!	[08:21]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, so what's the punchline ?	[08:21]
ben_vulpes	so i'm retarded right?	[08:22]
mircea_popescu	THAT's the punchline ?	[08:22]
ben_vulpes	this implies to me that mpoe holders are dumping to move their coins to usd like typical momentum traders	[08:22]
ben_vulpes	winklevoss etf comes online, btc legs down to 380 briefly, mpoe trades at what - six again?	[08:23]
mircea_popescu	nfi.	[08:23]
decimation	ben_vulpes: that's when you hit the buy button right?	[08:23]
ThickAsThieves	building bubbles ain't easy!	[08:24]
ben_vulpes	whither the mpex smarts? or is everything wackily correlated and when btc rockets to 800 come march o'clock does doge briefly cross 50 satoshi again?	[08:24]
ben_vulpes	so what if ben_vulpes has it his way and by say 2050 most people that are people actually live in one ? << uh pardon?	[08:24]
mircea_popescu	submarines.	[08:24]
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ben_vulpes	just because it makes sense to mine high-density rare earths from the seafloor doesn't mean any significant number of meatwads are going to be living subsurface.	[08:25]
mircea_popescu	and in this you are wrong.	[08:25]
mircea_popescu	why do you think california even exists ?	[08:25]
ben_vulpes	plate tectonics?	[08:25]
ThickAsThieves	i'd live subsurface, if it were cooler	[08:26]
decimation	the thing that sucks about submarines is that when you are on the surface they are unstable	[08:26]
ben_vulpes	decimation: aren't they most stable subsurface though?	[08:26]
decimation	so you get a terrible ride unless you can be underwater for a long time	[08:26]
decimation	right underwater the ride is great, but you need energy source that doesn't depend on breathing air	[08:26]
ben_vulpes	well, lettuce see. the submarine is submerged. it does not care about "weather" in either fluid sense. with the new fleshlights and tumblr pr0nz... i defy you to find a bunch of 20somethings whose current life would be differen if they were subbed. < ah	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	decimation let's put it this way : long before 2050 it will be feasible to build a submersible that never surfaces, can host one redditard and weighs under 1k tons.	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	that's a cost of about 100k in scrap metal. ie, affordable.	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	the tech exists today, integrally.	[08:27]
decimation	yeah such a thing is probably near the realm of possibility, I agree	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	you don't need "air", you need oxygen. oxygen is in water, and not expensive to get out.	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	burning the resulting hydrogen in your own atmosphere a) purifies the air and b) makes water.	[08:28]
mircea_popescu	drinkable water i mean.	[08:28]
decimation	you need an energy source to break the water bonds	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	energy is not actually expensive, both nuclear and geothermal generators can conveniently live submerged.	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	and fully automated at that.	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	in this sense, global warming would be a boon for humanity, if it weren't a wholly concocted piece of nonsense.	[08:30]
ben_vulpes	what is this chive thing	[08:30]
decimation	as ascii's quote of Mr. Yarvin points out, one would then make themselves a slave to Neptune, who isn't a forgiving master	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	ppl trying to be cool.	[08:30]
mircea_popescu	decimation zephyr is better ?	[08:31]
decimation	good point. or worse, those who worship statues of themselves	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	living makes one live, this much is agreed. merely pleading to ignorance isn't much contribution (and his tendency to plead to nonsense is why i dislike curtis)	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	specifically : just because you're used to zephyr's inconveniences to the point you don't notice them anymore	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	whereas the neptune inconveniences appear uncommon and thus remarkable,	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	doesn't say anything useful. to fish water is as unremarkable as air to you.	[08:31]
mircea_popescu	but there's no underwater tornadoes.	[08:32]
decimation	nor do hurricanes, earthquakes, etc make much difference to the fish	[08:32]
mircea_popescu	no living thing underwater was ever pierced by a tootphick turned into a pike by "unseasonable" winds.	[08:32]
mircea_popescu	there's no ocean hail.	[08:32]
mircea_popescu	no thing can kill you by fallling on your head under water.	[08:32]
mircea_popescu	i nearly got done in in romania by a 5 sq inch, 100 gram piece of tile that fell a foot in front of me, from ten or so floors up.	[08:33]
decimation	one thing I would certainly grant: it would be far easier for humanity to escape to the ocean floor than to the harshness of space	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	unforgiving master indeed.	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	now grant one more thing : there's going to be no space until long after the ocean floor is alma mater.	[08:33]
decimation	agreed.	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	so there we go.	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	curtis yarvin a footnote of meaninglessness in a larger discussion, as every fucking time.	[08:34]
decimation	yeah, he has a tendency to "drive-by" interesting points without actually making a point	[08:35]
mircea_popescu	that much doesn't even annoy me, my problem is that he without exception ends up pleading to ignorance, to numbers, to baculum, to some fallacy.	[08:35]
ben_vulpes	how about the marijuana supports terr.. oh, wait` << from a conversation with a client earlier today: "pot makes you stupid! if my son keeps smoking, i'm going to cut him off."	[08:35]
mircea_popescu	it's like reading curtis bouvard, guy read alot but never had any sort of help to become a systematic thinker.	[08:36]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes i can see that.	[08:36]
ben_vulpes	kid's probably just retarded to begin with.	[08:36]
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mircea_popescu	holy shit! Musi-Puxi!	[08:37]
mircea_popescu	dude this is too good.	[08:37]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: you could taste how full it was << YES that battery.	[08:37]
musi-puxi	o hai stan.	[08:37]
asciilifeform	'плоская батарейка' (flat batt)	[08:37]
asciilifeform	saw it open, 3 1.5v cells.	[08:38]
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asciilifeform	electricity is still sold by the watt << most humans don't have 1000 amp feeds, hence 'no hurry' observation.	[08:38]
mircea_popescu	now i can say mp stands for musi puxi and nobody will fucking know just how great it is.	[08:39]
asciilifeform	'priced by the watt' is only approximately true in this sense.	[08:39]
asciilifeform	cheap GPS module that has variable pulse output << no accuracy to speak of for short intervals (signal distortion of atmosphere, etc)	[08:39]
mircea_popescu	aEYaOPEDEK ahahah	[08:40]
decimation	asciilifeform: I think they make a version with TCXO, doubt cheap chinese version has	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	PHGMYUBYUIREYAE YRN B lYaY, ONDLNYAYNBEE X oHREPE NAHRYUER?	[08:41]
mircea_popescu	you yourself nahryuer	[08:41]
decimation	yeah http://www.u-blox.com/images/downloads/Product_Docs/NEO-7_ProductSummary_%28GPS.G7-HW-11003%29.pdf "neo 7-N" is the version with TCXO	[08:42]
asciilifeform	us is a true popular democracy : they have no privileged highschool << nope	[08:42]
*	asciilifeform went to one	[08:42]
asciilifeform	(admit by exam. plenty of these here.)	[08:42]
decimation	asciilifeform: generally only in the big cities though	[08:43]
decimation	at least for "public" school	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform well then all is well with the world.	[08:43]
mircea_popescu	no true popular democracy exists	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	as predicted by... welll, everyone always.	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tnTUsuvjRU << moldavian highschool.	[08:45]
assbot	Planeta Moldova - Cauzalitate - YouTube	[08:45]
decimation	asciilifeform: the datasheet artfully declines to provide any spec for timing accuracy - long or short term	[08:45]
asciilifeform	decimation: no need for data sheet here. there's a reason people build atomic clocks (plural) instead of having just one built and listening to it via radio.	[08:46]
decimation	yeah, but if you are going to build a module purporting to provide timing it would be nice to provide typical allan variance at various intervals, etc	[08:47]
asciilifeform	'Вопрос читал?' << 'have you read the question?' =~ 'бНОПНЯ ВХРЮК?' << bnopnya grunted in?	[08:47]
mircea_popescu	decimation: mircea_popescu: minor nitpick - I don't think USG employees get dental actually << generally no, but afaik nsa folk do.	[08:47]
asciilifeform	dental << at any good 'rupture farms' like mine, they have dental	[08:48]
mircea_popescu	so there.	[08:48]
asciilifeform	;;google rupture farms	[08:48]
gribble	RuptureFarms 1029 - Oddworld Wiki - Wikia: ; Abe's Oddysee - This Is Rupture Farms (Intro FMV) - YouTube: ; Oddworld Abe's Oddysee Rupture Farms Intro PS1 - YouTube:	[08:48]
mircea_popescu	As the protests in Ferguson, Missouri over police fatally shooting 19-year-old Mike Brown have raged through the past several nights, more than a few people have noticed how relatively quiet Facebook news feeds have been on the matter. While #Ferguson is a trending hashtag, Zeynep Tufekci pointed out at Medium that news about the violence was, as best, slow to percolate through her own feed, despite people posting libe	[08:49]
mircea_popescu	rally about it.	[08:49]
cazalla	;;seen kyrio	[08:49]
gribble	I have not seen kyrio.	[08:49]
mircea_popescu	now let's wonder why exactly is the usg dept of facebook able to spend 20bn on some random purchase of a valueless firm	[08:49]
cazalla	anyone know kyrio (left me -10) because of something to do with danielpbarron	[08:49]
mircea_popescu	;;gettrust kyrio	[08:50]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask kyrio!~suck@awesome.and.cute.little.tiny.babyturtlesarecool.com. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user kyrio: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=kyrio \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=kyrio \| Rated since: Mon Feb 3 23:38:33 2014	[08:50]
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mircea_popescu	Scammed my buddy...BUYER/SELLER BEWARE	[08:50]
mircea_popescu	apparently some scammor.	[08:50]
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mircea_popescu	;;rate kyrio -3 does not understand how the wot works or what it's for.	[08:54]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of -3 for user kyrio has been recorded.	[08:54]
mircea_popescu	should more or less fix the problem.	[08:54]
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RagnarDanneskjol	speaking of - mp - Thanks for the referral; what more could a guy ask? think I'm gonna be a dork like pete & throw that up on my website.	[08:54]
RagnarDanneskjol	I actually have a history with those guys and would be derelict in my b-a duties if I didn't raise a cautionary flag… THey hired one of my best devs to adapt a python arb model… Payment commitments to said dev got a little squirrely. Also, I volunteered my own time to fix their website, redid all the html, css, wrote most of their content and they kind of blew it off without even a	[08:54]
RagnarDanneskjol	thank you.	[08:54]
mircea_popescu	you got a website ?	[08:54]
RagnarDanneskjol	oh yea	[08:54]
mircea_popescu	and which guys are these.	[08:54]
RagnarDanneskjol	the ones who asked about dev support earlier today	[08:55]
RagnarDanneskjol	They reestablished contact today once they put Ragnar & me together, want to retain me again, sent a job order. So, I am withholding final judgement pending a come-to-jesus conversation we're scheduled to have tomorrow so I can get to the bottom of what transpired.	[08:55]
asciilifeform	why rust is a problem for iron but not aluminum say << rust is actually electrochemical phenonemon. so not a problem for this experiment (after - is different question)	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vDXTKzYz58	[08:55]
assbot	Communist Russia Party Dance SWAGGA! (DARUDE - SANDSTORM) - YouTube	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	now you do it.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	(or make gf do it :D)	[08:55]
RagnarDanneskjol	ha	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah i realised as i was typing that the connection is actually not as close as i'd have liked.	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	then i wondered how to fix, and then i realised that well... no way really, best wait to be taken to task for my business insider treatment of science.	[08:56]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9FS1bxaGTg << this is the reason we like ukraina btw.	[08:56]
assbot	Ukraine Got Talent - The world's best pole dancer - Anastasia Sokolova - YouTube	[08:56]
RagnarDanneskjol	wow	[08:57]
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asciilifeform	submarine rough ride << float a tethered photovoltaic array. problem solved.	[08:58]
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mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol and you should see twelve year olds.	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	no butt, no heavy thigs, can walk on that thing.	[08:59]
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asciilifeform	his tendency to plead to nonsense is why i dislike curtis << 'wannabee' polymaths are doomed to 'plead nonsense'	[09:00]
RagnarDanneskjol	I am blind mostly, so	[09:00]
asciilifeform	no living thing underwater was ever pierced by a tootphick << ever see a fish explode?	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	(something liek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxN_13eGPg0 )	[09:01]
assbot	Daniela Silivas 1988 Olympics AA Floor - YouTube	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform only if brought up.	[09:01]
asciilifeform	aye	[09:01]
asciilifeform	the equivalent of us falling down.	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	notrly.	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	there's no magical gravity of water surface.,	[09:02]
asciilifeform	no - but there's buoyancy.	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	not to the degree.	[09:03]
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mircea_popescu	no fish got ever splatted by distance sqaured.	[09:03]
asciilifeform	right.	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2014#800899 << that's a particularly juicy one decimation	[09:05]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	think of it. could not find decent rng to make keys	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	for months, this.	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	i mean, i kept mpex online for a few days more than the consensus'd have expectd or called reasonable on occasion.	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	there's some difference here.	[09:06]
asciilifeform	could not find decent rng to make keys << different story here.	[09:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.0007071 = 6.8942 BTC [+]	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	hm ?	[09:06]
asciilifeform	it is generally known that in nsa-lande, only nsa is permitted to generate keys	[09:06]
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asciilifeform	they are flown, by courier, to the field.	[09:06]
asciilifeform	in briefcases.	[09:06]
asciilifeform	with signatures, forms in triplicate.	[09:06]
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mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal: because? << specify what are you trying to accomplish. impossible to explain what's wrong with any given methodology to resolve an undefined problem.	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yes.	[09:07]
asciilifeform	this was the inspiration for my 'country of which nothing is known but the name' piece.	[09:07]
mircea_popescu	this is sane.	[09:07]
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mircea_popescu	but this was not the problem.	[09:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.286 = 0.858 BTC [+] {3}	[09:08]
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asciilifeform	clearly they had a small problem assembling the priests, finding a suitable goat (or virgin - or both) to sacrifice on schedule, etc.	[09:08]
mircea_popescu	*: asciilifeform is still waiting for the first leak from the u.s. dept. of wherever-the-stoolie-reports-from-btc-exchanges go. << there was recently a dump of everyone-on-coinbase, for instance.	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform the problem wasn't they couldn	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	t find a briefcase, or paper for forms, or a currier or gas for the plane.	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	the problem was they couldn't ok the keys.	[09:09]
asciilifeform	why the briefcase didn't parachute down on time, is not told in the tale	[09:10]
*	asciilifeform wasn't there	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	master in charge of saying "this key is ok to be used in production" refused to say so.	[09:10]
asciilifeform	or was on a bender	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	bureaucrats looked at cost to fix problem vs try and get rid of him, miscalculated. tried the latter.	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	the effort failed.	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	this pissed master off.	[09:10]
mircea_popescu	cue successive list of idiotic, bureaucratic "attempts" to "in good faith" "make progress towards fixing going forward"	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	cue string of obscenities.	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	once one actually promotes cold callers and phone marketeers to govt positions, there are bound to be problems.	[09:11]
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asciilifeform	he expects no impact to the satellite’s planned design life of 14 years.... he says. “We put enough fuel onboard to pretty much fire those thrusters continuously. << 'folks who won't do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense' (j. mccarthy)	[09:12]
mircea_popescu	lol	[09:12]
asciilifeform	who, precisely, he expects to fool ?	[09:12]
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mircea_popescu	well... people who don't do arithmetic ?	[09:14]
asciilifeform	student exercise: assume xenon, etc. fuel for ion engine, stored at 300 atm. say, 1g/sec expenditure. calculate size of tank that holds 14 yrs. worth of thrust.	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	;;google xenon atomic mass	[09:15]
gribble	Chemical Elements.com - Xenon (Xe): ; Xenon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; #54 - Xenon - Xe:	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 3600 * 24 * 365 * 14 / 1000 / 54 / 300	[09:15]
gribble	27.2533333333	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	27 1/4 cubic meters ?	[09:16]
asciilifeform	now, what was the volume of the machine.	[09:16]
RagnarDanneskjol	isnt the thrust energy needed to calculate this?	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	well definitely no satelite the size of the washington monument was ever put in space.	[09:16]
asciilifeform	qed.	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol no cause he gave me 1g/s	[09:16]
RagnarDanneskjol	oh duh	[09:17]
asciilifeform	^ a piddling minimum	[09:17]
asciilifeform	afaik the world record holder was the american 'keyhole' series of machine - size of a bus.	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	for shits and giggles :	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 57.38 * 6 * 3.13	[09:18]
gribble	1077.5964	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	that's a german uboat. so like... a satellite about halfway between a bycicle and a nazi uboat.	[09:19]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform was this put in orbit with the use of the russian's rockets or arianne ?	[09:20]
asciilifeform	titan	[09:21]
mircea_popescu	the 3b did what, 3tons ?	[09:22]
asciilifeform	~20	[09:23]
asciilifeform	(if i recall)	[09:23]
mircea_popescu	well if the satellite was nothing but a pressurized xenon container, it may have somehow squeezed in.	[09:24]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: 3b - 3 tons (pediwikia) - aha.	[09:24]
mircea_popescu	maybe general whatshisname speaks the truth	[09:24]
asciilifeform	4 - 20 tons.	[09:24]
mircea_popescu	wait. i see here leo 20 tons.	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	you're not about to tell me someone put a 27 cubic meter thing in low earth orbit ?	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	what is it, a parade float ?	[09:25]
asciilifeform	'keyhole' is more famous as 'hubble telescope' (that one got turned upside-down.)	[09:26]
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mircea_popescu	what was hubble, like 11tons ?	[09:26]
asciilifeform	approx.	[09:27]
asciilifeform	(as per public specs)	[09:27]
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mircea_popescu	Vexual: roundup resistant ganja? i think someones trolling << think more, roundup resistant coke.	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	the whole of the production control stragety in columbia is to helispray	[09:28]
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mircea_popescu	if that goes away, the current usg-friendly columbia govt goes away.	[09:28]
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asciilifeform	so they'll spray 'agent orange' - or napalm	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	yeah. right.,	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	because if you give iraquis a ton of m16s they're not going to raid your embassy with them	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	so you have to evacuate the whole shebang like crazed rabbits, and do a shit job of cleanup in the process	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	so people all over the intel community can laugh at you for yet another week, for yet another reason.	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	totally great idea, give columbia napalm.	[09:30]
asciilifeform	'give' as in drop.	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	what, from the 27 cubic meter satellitarian tanks ?	[09:31]
asciilifeform	lol	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	shit's heavy mate.	[09:31]
asciilifeform	presumably from aeroplane	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	flown from where, the faulklands ?	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	cuba ?	[09:32]
asciilifeform	florida?	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	oh, canaveral ?	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	SATELLITE NAPALM!	[09:32]
asciilifeform	muppet platoon knows from where - not me	[09:33]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol: be moar vigilant with teh monies << the problem with that article, as with all "studies" of its ilk, is that it makes the (generally reasonable, now not) herbi mistake, as detailed here : http://trilema.com/2014/no-argument/	[09:34]
asciilifeform	point of the 'roundup' thread being, if genetical engineering were presently 'a thing', there's be cocainatious mildew growing in your neighbour's bathtub, and colombia would be exporting llama stockings	[09:34]
assbot	No argument pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[09:34]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform not that kind, the useful kind. merely the current kind, ie, the resistant thing.	[09:35]
asciilifeform	righto	[09:35]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform imagine if you could genetically engineer human females	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	not necessarily so they're slut,	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	but so they're infertile and past the age of 16 or so, their breast tissue secretes copious lsd.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	now that's a woman for a lifetime.	[09:36]
asciilifeform	we're aaalmost there.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	have her breastfeed the dog, watch it meow.	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	Duffer1: my stomach isn't a basketball anymore << poor duff.	[09:37]
asciilifeform	soviet scientist declares, 'we've invented a shit-to-food converter.' 'does it work?' 'sorta. spreading on bread: worlks!!11! eating - not quite yet.'	[09:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ALC] 7 @ 0.08145503 = 0.5702 BTC [+] {2}	[09:38]
mircea_popescu	Duffer1: it was quite painful, and i refused pain meds until the ct scan results came back and the dr said "your appendix is all messed up, we're transfering you to a different hospital, ambulance is en route, take pain meds now" << there is this legendary romanian surgeon who supposedly sutured his own appendix. this may be apocryphal, in any sense i wouldn't try to undergo surgery w/o painkillers, tis nonsense.	[09:39]
*	asciilifeform tried to dig out the paper re: psychoactives spotted in bartholin's gland secretions, fails to turn up - perhaps too sleepy	[09:39]
asciilifeform	leonid ivanovich rogozov.	[09:40]
mircea_popescu	not surprising.	[09:40]
mircea_popescu	cuntjuice can drive one wild.	[09:40]
asciilifeform	rogozov << autoappendectomy, not cuntjuice	[09:41]
asciilifeform	no idea if a fellow from Ro ever pulled a rogozov - but hard to say why not	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	now im starting to suspect it may just be a case of romanians stealing a good story.	[09:42]
asciilifeform	lol	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	as the period sort-of matches.	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	so... yeah.	[09:42]
mircea_popescu	Antibiotics were administered directly into the peritoneal cavity << holy shit fucking soviets.	[09:43]
asciilifeform	'twas this or fellete his makarov, i imagine.	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	actually peritonitis resolves naturally in about 5ish percent of cases.	[09:44]
asciilifeform	auto-appendektomy - like seppuku but double the work.	[09:45]
mircea_popescu	well no. seppuku aims to open the large liver vein. apendectomy, oppositely, to not open it.	[09:45]
asciilifeform	in historic overviews of seppuku, the thing that always caught my eye was the slow progression from honest full-out gut deposition to the late-meiji (and 20th c. - see herr mishima) token slice followed by 'kaishaku' beheading stroke.	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/whatever-happened-to-bitcoin-hint-nothing-good-cm381082 (linked earlier) << pure gold. these folks are in 'tilt mode.' <<< let the permanent record reflect why "Julian Close has been a business writer since the first day of the twenty-first century, having written for PRA International and the United Nations Department of Peacekeeping." won't be able to support his fambly la	[09:47]
mircea_popescu	ter this decade.	[09:47]
assbot	Whatever happened to Bitcoin? (Hint: nothing good) - NASDAQ.com	[09:47]
*	asciilifeform hopes to live to see a spammer physically starve to death	[09:48]
*	asciilifeform goes off to bed to dream of this dream	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	speaking of spammer : "You can see closing trades for all Julian's long and short positions and track his long term performance via twitter: @JulianClose_MIC ."	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	now try check out that acct. 100 followers, pixelated user pic...	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	we're supposed to not know what astroturf means or something.	[09:49]
mircea_popescu	http://www.fedsmith.com/2014/02/17/replacing-the-general-schedule-some-facts/ << stuff like this, incidentally, is subtly indicative of the usg failure. inasmuch as grand national-socialist schemes such as the gs are collapsing and being replaced, it's quite clear that in its quest to arrive at that "nobody can grow as much as a potato without asking for permission", the national-socialist government is moving away rat	[09:51]
mircea_popescu	her than towards the target.	[09:51]
assbot	Replacing The General Schedule: Some Facts : FedSmith.com	[09:51]
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mircea_popescu	but anyway, check out the lone GS-15 under age 24 in 2013.	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	there were 3 gs-14 under 24 in 1998. fifteen years later, two left, the third was promoted.	[09:53]
mircea_popescu	make a guess : is the third the best or the worst of the group of 3 ?	[09:53]
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[]bot	Bet created: "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/	[09:59]
BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[10:01]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 468.39, Best ask: 474.85, Bid-ask spread: 6.46000, Last trade: 474.87, 24 hour volume: 15994.19071420, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 493.98, 24 hour vwap: 482.673562406	[10:01]
BingoBoingo	%t	[10:01]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 170 Ask: 221 Last Price: 170 24h-Vol: 10k High: 170 Low: 170 VWAP: 169	[10:01]
mircea_popescu	wow sticky price huh.	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	%d	[10:02]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 197414.53 in 1880 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.49	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves you never got around to getting that larger rig involved did you	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	%[	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	%p	[10:02]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 1.31 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1466.02 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.82 TH/s	[10:02]
mircea_popescu	here's a funny blast from the past :	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	Aug 11 23:50:49 Current Blocks: 193432 \| Current Difficulty: 2036671.0886933 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 193535 \| Next Difficulty In: 103 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 15 hours, 40 minutes, and 44 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 2183270.15599682 \| Estimated Percent Change: 7.197974583	[10:04]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin difficulty august 2012 was... about hte same as atc difficulty august 2014.	[10:04]
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BingoBoingo	lol I was thinking about that when I first rented a rig for ATC, that ~2 or 3 years ago there were times where all of Bitcoin's nethash was less than the rented rig's	[10:08]
BingoBoingo	Back in the days when terrahash was a network "goal" and Petahashes were crazy	[10:09]
mircea_popescu	mhm.	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	i ... remember these days.	[10:10]
BingoBoingo	I remember reading about Bitcoin those days, thinking one of these day's I'll grab a couple graphics cards. I wasn't thinking enough back then.	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	im possibly one of the very few people not regretting not having started mining "earlier"	[10:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00070262 = 15.809 BTC [-] {3}	[10:14]
BingoBoingo	Oh I don't regret my lack of "mining," I regret thinking food as so valuable and not buying in grotesque quantity.	[10:16]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[10:26]
[]bot	Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.1 BTC. Current weight: 99,989.	[10:27]
penguirker	New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/do-you-work-from-your-home-in-some-tropical-paradise-heres-a-breakfast-idea/	[10:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HASH] 45 @ 0.022 = 0.99 BTC	[10:29]
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cazalla	took a moment	[10:30]
cazalla	oh, tits	[10:31]
RagnarDanneskjol	( . Y . ) :D	[10:31]
BigBitz	Tits are good.	[10:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00069971 = 23.3353 BTC [-] {3}	[10:33]
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mircea_popescu	lol http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/20/making-my-eulorian-cake-and-eating-it/	[10:46]
assbot	Making My Eulorian Cake and Eating It in Ossasepia	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	pankkake mebbe add that to the list ?	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	not sure what the policy is there, "blogs by assets ppl" ? or "blogs about btc" ?	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo pls to send 1500 atc to 1FUneWXoi6eqC2p1F2rDrEsrApawPa9wCx ty.	[10:47]
mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal: was this the first popular block explorer http://blockexplorer.com/ ? << popular no, but the first yes.	[10:49]
assbot	Home - Bitcoin Block Explorer	[10:49]
BingoBoingo	%tslb	[10:50]
atcbot	45 minutes and 37 seconds	[10:50]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: On its way http://atc.blockr.io/zerotx/info/57d8b8d1bcc5aa0485564c1632e4835272c1b43d7219c565d2786bdeef3aad83	[10:55]
mircea_popescu	ty.	[10:55]
ryguy_`	tyty	[10:55]
mircea_popescu	yw. so who're you ?	[10:56]
diana_coman	thanks mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo	[10:56]
BingoBoingo	You're welcome diana_coman	[10:56]
diana_coman	the posts are just for fun, lol	[10:56]
mircea_popescu	l	[10:56]
mircea_popescu	o right, and bitcoin is for serious.	[10:56]
ryguy_`	man of leisure turned wageslave to build a saas for businesses	[10:56]
diana_coman	ahahaha, true	[10:56]
diana_coman	for serious fun :p	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	only seriously funny once someone loses an eye.	[10:57]
ryguy_`	sneak a look at bitcoin stuffs when im taking a break	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	ryguy_` now that's a transition.	[10:57]
ryguy_`	what do you guys think of this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8200912	[10:57]
assbot	Liberum Consilium: a system design for moderated deliberation [pdf] \| Hacker News	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	so you love saas so much, platonically, that you;ll abandon your hyperion-freedom to become a mere mortal for its sake ?	[10:57]
ryguy_`	its like an identity, reputation, proposal (legislation, etc) system	[10:58]
mircea_popescu	can it be not a pdf ?	[10:58]
ryguy_`	yaaaaaa i know	[10:58]
mircea_popescu	also, can it quote stuff like the wot, bitcoin assets and so on ?	[10:58]
ryguy_`	you got some command line tools to deal with pdfs ?	[10:58]
mircea_popescu	i deal with pdfs exactly like i deal with the tim swansons of the world. "who asked you anything and what gives you the impression you have something to answer with."	[10:58]
ryguy_`	yeah i stumbled into it like 4 years ago still trying to shepard it to passive income land	[10:59]
ryguy_`	needless to say i was unaware of btc, just getting my head back on my shoulders concering 2008 crash and what it really meant, etc	[10:59]
ryguy_`	plus the powers that cant maintain their quo are making things real obvious right now	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	helpful isn';t it.	[11:00]
ryguy_`	anyway, yeah i'd rather be in a south american city screwing with btc but i got commitments like whats his face from the shining	[11:00]
mircea_popescu	the irony of the situation is that with enemies like these, btc really doesn't need any friends.	[11:00]
ryguy_`	are you talking about me or the link i pasted	[11:00]
ryguy_`	or a third	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	neither. " the powers that cant maintain their quo"	[11:01]
ryguy_`	ahhhhh yeah haha	[11:01]
ryguy_`	i love how some of the garbage intel agencies have the squid over the globe imagery	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	amusingly, i think this was discussed.	[11:01]
ryguy_`	so i wanted to make a blog called painful squid and highlight all the retarded shit they've been doing	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	!s octopus	[11:01]
assbot	26 results for 'octopus' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=octopus	[11:01]
ryguy_`	like	[11:01]
mircea_popescu	not a bad idea. especially if you can get some wistleblown material.	[11:02]
ryguy_`	germany resending their request for the gold from the fed	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	like, a "terrible company" clone for usg, especially the intel stuff...	[11:02]
ryguy_`	its kind of a hyped up, superficial situation	[11:02]
ryguy_`	but it definitely falls in line with the saving of face thats being attempted	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	TSA, Terrible Spy Agency blog.	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	let people vent and rage about how much their employer suck	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	how clueless management i	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	how they don't do anything useful and so on	[11:02]
ryguy_`	yeah i'd love to get quality info	[11:02]
ryguy_`	put it up on a tor service or whatnot	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	just use a htmlform pgp drop and a published key.	[11:03]
ryguy_`	string together some openbsd boxes or grsec boxes and give it a go from afar in a 3rd world country	[11:03]
ryguy_`	i dont trust the circlejerk psyops and stuff going on now though	[11:03]
ryguy_`	spys spying on spys spying on spys	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	anyone can send you w/e the shit they feel like. afaik that's how cryptome work	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	s	[11:04]
ryguy_`	cryptome says wikileaks was a intel agency job and assange is in the embassy collecting leaks on behalf of god knows who	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	i think they just randomly publish anything.	[11:04]
ryguy_`	rather let this thing fall to pieces and get in afterwards on the infowar stuff	[11:04]
ryguy_`	yeah	[11:04]
ryguy_`	well just in general, you got these other news papers with their leak drop boxes. im sure plenty of them are run by handled individuals. feel sorry for the unsavvy leaker at the moment	[11:05]
ryguy_`	and snowden too, what a mindfuck. is it just a cia hit on the nsa for the budget ? who knows, who cares	[11:05]
ryguy_`	btc is more productive than leaks because idont have what it takes to not get doxxed	[11:06]
ryguy_`	for me	[11:06]
mircea_popescu	works.	[11:06]
ryguy_`	i do want a seat on your exchange, though	[11:07]
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mircea_popescu	well the good news is that they're still available.	[11:07]
ryguy_`	but im writing 'all work and no play makes ryguy_` a dull boy' over and over so when im done with that i need to get my gpg keys in wot and all that	[11:07]
ryguy_`	i thought it was infinite seats	[11:07]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[11:08]
ryguy_`	nice man	[11:08]
ryguy_`	math always saves me	[11:08]
ryguy_`	cant wait until the slaves (sheep)ⁱ want a transparent ledger equities market	[11:09]
ryguy_`	instead of the sigma 6 circus we got now	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	nobody ever wanted that except for bona fide merchants	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	the same types that push for 0% taxation.	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	in fact, a good quality nyse is less likely than no tax.	[11:10]
ryguy_`	oh yeah	[11:10]
ryguy_`	you are preaching to the choir	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	it's what i do best!	[11:12]
ryguy_`	im over the system and how it works and stuck on trying to help decently smart people understand whats going on	[11:12]
ryguy_`	i always give them an out with	[11:12]
ryguy_`	"the FED might have been the best option we had at the time"	[11:12]
ryguy_`	knowing that isnt true	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	well in the sense stalin was the best option at the time, and hitler too.	[11:14]
BingoBoingo	Well, the Fed was the best weapon for defeating the soviet union while turning into a worse soviet union	[11:14]
ryguy_`	yeah	[11:14]
ryguy_`	im over the geopolitics too	[11:14]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/20/making-my-eulorian-cake-and-eating-it/	[11:14]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.dianacoman.com/2014/08/16/boxy-and-his-leaky-bottle/	[11:14]
ryguy_`	zebig brezenski ruined it for me	[11:14]
ryguy_`	as a kid i thought being a 'statesman' was a respectable thing	[11:15]
ryguy_`	now a days im thinking	[11:15]
ryguy_`	this asshole is running things with the kagans	[11:15]
ryguy_`	its fun watching putin deflect like bruce lee with a hand behind his back	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	well stateman is a respectable thing. not very many ones good at it left in teh west.	[11:16]
ryguy_`	what kins of things do you guys see blockchain based equities/securities exchanges competing with eachother on in the future	[11:17]
ryguy_`	network effect, standard nyse/nasdaq type shit thats going on now	[11:18]
ryguy_`	(minus the fraud)	[11:18]
ryguy_`	i think any good statesman would be sitting this current round (or incarnation) out	[11:18]
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mircea_popescu	prolly so.	[11:18]
ryguy_`	i dont know much about the technicalities by way of how your service connects with btc but	[11:19]
ryguy_`	do you think high frequency trading or polling type strategies would or will be prominent ?	[11:20]
ryguy_`	i just wanna invest and execute trades for clients and ease everyoneeeee into a btc based stock market like warren benjamin graham	[11:21]
ryguy_`	its hard to discern what is or is not related to the fraud, or a byproduct of the fraud going on now a days. Im open to the argument that hft creates liquidity but how much liquidity does a market need, ya know	[11:22]
BingoBoingo	;;google site:trilema.com high speed trading mpex	[11:23]
gribble	BitBet Stole ~$7,000 from me (10 BTC) - Bitcoin Forum: ; Some basic discussion of Bitcoin macroeconomy pe Trilema - Un ...: ; The EVE online noob guide. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.:	[11:23]
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BingoBoingo	!up ryguy_`	[11:25]
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ryguy_`	oh wow thanks	[11:25]
ryguy_`	ok so yah im _quite_ familiar with bitcoin and things that take place on the blockchain	[11:25]
ryguy_`	and how that would definitely not allow any hft stuff to go down	[11:25]
ryguy_`	anyway. bigtime respectable thing you guys got going on here. especially the trash talking which is just brilliant. and settling with the SEC, wth. i cant even really find any reading on that SEC issue though	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	ryguy_`> do you think high frequency trading or polling type strategies would or will be prominent ? < in a word, no.	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	ryguy_` short version : guy retired his mpex issue. sec desperately wanted to purchase some relevance, so they tied some blown glbse/twitter offering he had with the mpex offering, and pretended like they scored some sort of victory.	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	this is so transparently ridiculous half the bureaucracy is laughing at them, leaving aside wall street and the people not actually involved in the us nuthouse.	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	but hey, working for the govt means you gotta eat the shit you gotta eat.	[11:30]
ryguy_`	i worked at a firm and we had to keep all the records incase the SEC guys showed up	[11:30]
ryguy_`	so this dude just gave back some kind of equity shares in mpex or a listed company like a retired couple gives back a condo timeshare	[11:31]
ryguy_`	he conducted some other transaction and SEC claimed those shares were apart of that other transaction ?	[11:31]
mircea_popescu	mkay, it's like so. guy made a "feedzebirds" thing, which he listed on glbse, which simply imploded.	[11:32]
ryguy_`	yeah	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	guy listed sd on mpex. about a year later, he claimed someone bought it and so it was delisted. mpex shareholders received a negotiated, fair compensation and it was the end of the matter.	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	the sec got a 20k settlement for the former, and is pretending it got a settlement for the pair.	[11:33]
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mircea_popescu	this is fine, inasmuch as it has no ill effect and increases the general supply of lulz,	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	which in the end is what backs bitcoin.	[11:33]
ryguy_`	haha	[11:33]
mircea_popescu	point in case.	[11:34]
ryguy_`	hay, man	[11:34]
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mircea_popescu	!up guest87345	[11:37]
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ryguy_`	i cant wait for title insurance companies to go busto	[11:38]
ryguy_`	and the govt to eat shit - gonna be great	[11:38]
ryguy_`	wish i had your skillset, man. or wish i put the effort in like you did, my dad and his grandfather we're both follower backoffice managers for wallstreet comapnies and growing up i thought financial markets were the most boring shit in the world until 2008 & bitcoin	[11:39]
mircea_popescu	nothing is boring if done well.	[11:41]
ryguy_`	yeah ive been coming around to that more and more at the ripe age of 30	[11:42]
ryguy_`	18-26 was all deprogramming myself from what i'd been taught, if i knew i was deprogramming it or not	[11:42]
ryguy_`	thank god for the internet - i dont think i'd ever have come around to realize 'fiat = war machine' among all the other things without it or a patient individual to walk me though it	[11:46]
ryguy_`	without the internet, that is. i've been awake for far too long to make sense.	[11:47]
mircea_popescu	well, no game without a good pvp component is ultimately woth playing	[11:47]
mircea_popescu	everything worth doing is a war machine.	[11:47]
ryguy_`	yeah shit is definitely a dualistic world	[11:47]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC to rally to $4000 before July 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1026/ Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 13(Y):87(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.3399 BTC. Current weight: 99,330.	[11:48]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "BTC >= $2,000 before March" http://bitbet.us/bet/1027/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.12 BTC. Current weight: 99,956.	[11:48]
ryguy_`	doesnt take long to realize that information really is $$$$ in this day in age from a number of angles	[11:49]
ryguy_`	and not in some faux big data bullshit kind of way	[11:50]
ryguy_`	what a wimper http://feedzebirds.com/	[11:53]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4760 @ 0.00069949 = 3.3296 BTC [-]	[12:34]
RagnarDanneskjol	http://hackaday.com/2014/08/19/open-source-gpu-released/	[12:35]
assbot	Open Source GPU Released	[12:35]
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kdomanski	!down assbot	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	why so mean	[12:38]
kdomanski	I would be funny if you could do that	[12:38]
kdomanski	*uit	[12:38]
kdomanski	*it	[12:38]
kdomanski	damn beer	[12:39]
punkman	http://docuwiki.net/index.php?title=Wellington_Bomber	[12:40]
assbot	Wellington Bomber - DocuWiki	[12:40]
punkman	pretty impressive	[12:41]
RagnarDanneskjol	wow 23 hrs	[12:41]
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punkman	http://www.airpowerworld.info/bombers/damaged-wellington-bomber.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/B-17_Damage_Cologne.jpg	[12:53]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5838333/Shameless-couple-have-sex-on-crowded-beach-in-Magaluf.html win.	[12:59]
assbot	Shameless couple have sex on crowded beach in Magaluf \| The Sun \|News	[13:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00070293 = 23.6184 BTC [+]	[13:07]
punkman	mircea_popescu: heh noobs, should have gone to deeper water	[13:09]
mircea_popescu	i suspek a noob is you. they're too deep as it is, seawater is corrosive and in any case a girl goop solvent.	[13:09]
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punkman	mircea_popescu: definitely not somethin to do for 40 minutes	[13:13]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[13:13]
mircea_popescu	actually thinking about this... i suspek the sun may be not telling the truth as it is	[13:14]
punkman	but a quickie while trying to keep afloat, that's pretty fun	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	helps if she has decent buoys.	[13:14]
cazalla	sand in vagina?	[13:16]
mircea_popescu	yeah i don't get this entire do it at the beach thing.	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	i get the do it in public thing, and do it in public to girls you just met thing,	[13:17]
punkman	what's wrong with the beach?	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	but gimme a fucking ottoman for her to faceplant on, a cushion, something.	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	punkman sand. salty water. too hot.	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	ever saw snails fuck on the hot asphalt under the sun ?	[13:18]
cazalla	i did it at the beach with my first gf and it was nothing like the movies	[13:19]
punkman	hah	[13:19]
mircea_popescu	cazalla i did it with a bunch of pron chicks.	[13:19]
mircea_popescu	it... also was nothing like the movies they made.	[13:19]
mircea_popescu	i do not credit the theory this has to be because of me. it must be something else.	[13:19]
punkman	well last time I found some nice flat rocks under shade, worked out pretty good, with the nice sea breeze and all	[13:20]
mircea_popescu	was she on her back or on her knees ?	[13:21]
punkman	there's even more options!	[13:22]
punkman	next time I'm bringing a foam mattress	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	my point being that in the former case her ventral hip bone will rub her skin raw	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	whereas in the latter, knees.	[13:23]
cazalla	rocks sound even worse tbh	[13:24]
punkman	better than sand	[13:24]
mircea_popescu	s/ventral/dorsal but anyway	[13:24]
punkman	http://i.imgur.com/DRRKbHw.jpg	[13:25]
cazalla	slip, gash your hands open on oyster shells or something	[13:25]
mircea_popescu	nice beach/natural port tho	[13:25]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1.167089 BTC for No on "Gold will close above USD 2000 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/759/ Odds: 25(Y):75(N) by coin, 33(Y):67(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.115571 BTC. Current weight: 35,706.	[13:25]
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cazalla	pankkake, is that you?	[13:27]
cazalla	sorry, punkman	[13:27]
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cazalla	because that guy looks like he has some a cup titties	[13:28]
mircea_popescu	comments appreciation day : http://trilema.com/2014/a-complete-theory-of-economics/ possibly the most re-read comment section on trilema.	[13:28]
assbot	A complete theory of economics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[13:28]
mircea_popescu	re-read by me i mean. i think it's like the 6th or so time	[13:28]
punkman	cazalla: lol, I see it now	[13:30]
punkman	no that's just another dude	[13:30]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BitPay closed before the end of the year" http://bitbet.us/bet/757/ Odds: 39(Y):61(N) by coin, 48(Y):52(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.75346298 BTC. Current weight: 36,457.	[13:31]
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punkman	btw first time I saw so many cameras at a nudist beach. always thought it a bit of a faux pas	[13:39]
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RagnarDanneskjol	think it varies per region	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	twenty years ago it was an outrage.	[13:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12740 @ 0.00070201 = 8.9436 BTC [-]	[13:41]
mircea_popescu	today, nude people generally expect to be filmed and get depressed if apparently nobody cares.	[13:41]
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RagnarDanneskjol	does anyone know the appx current size of ATC's blockchain (in GBs)? I know i could just look @ the blockcount & calculate, can't too late for maths	[13:45]
punkman	RagnarDanneskjol: there's like 3 transactions total, shouldn't be too big	[13:46]
Apocalyptic	RagnarDanneskjol, I have 55 MB	[13:46]
RagnarDanneskjol	I could have sworn I saw more than that, but wow ok	[13:46]
RagnarDanneskjol	nice, thank	[13:46]
mircea_popescu	what gbs ? like 50 mb yteah	[13:47]
pankkake	I have 49M, though my data is a few days late	[13:47]
Apocalyptic	I may have included the wallet size too	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	lol	[13:47]
mircea_popescu	"i may have also included some vacation pics&tits"	[13:47]
Apocalyptic	heh	[13:47]
pankkake	bernankoin is 683M. take that	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	yeah but you got all that 3d printing equipment.	[13:49]
RagnarDanneskjol	pankkake I'm working on another blockexplorer for it, will send you email detailing shortly	[13:50]
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pankkake	why me?	[13:50]
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RagnarDanneskjol	cause you are the only other one on the git, figured you're the guy	[13:50]
pankkake	for updating the web page you should contact ThickAsThieves	[13:51]
nubbins`	ben_vulpes: how about the marijuana supports terr.. oh, wait` << from a conversation with a client earlier today: "pot makes you stupid! if my son keeps smoking, i'm going to cut him off." <<< ahh my sides	[13:51]
nubbins`	"i'm going to cut him off"	[13:51]
nubbins`	"it's the recreational drug use that's making him stupid, not hanging off daddy's golden teat"	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	why me? << that's what she said.	[13:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33922 @ 0.00069703 = 23.6447 BTC [-] {3}	[13:52]
RagnarDanneskjol	ha - pankkake - I don't really care about the webpage, thought you were developing for it - or is it just Thieves?	[13:53]
pankkake	I changed a few values to make it like the coingen settings	[13:53]
mircea_popescu	nobody is really developing for atc. pankkake helped with a bunch of stuff as i think the first guy with a clue to get involved.	[13:53]
RagnarDanneskjol	okee	[13:53]
pankkake	however, as true altcoin developer, I had no idea what I was doing	[13:54]
RagnarDanneskjol	ha	[13:54]
punkman	%d	[13:54]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 198881.78 in 1878 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -89.41	[13:54]
punkman	looks like it'll be months before diff change	[13:54]
RagnarDanneskjol	maybe I'm missing something, how are there no txs - thought it was being used for WoL	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	1880 at 10:02 1878 at 13:54 a dozen or so a day, like five m0onths :D	[13:55]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol there are a few, just not so many, so it's a common joke.	[13:55]
Apocalyptic	maybe I'm missing something, how are there no txs // there are plenty	[13:55]
RagnarDanneskjol	ok thought so	[13:56]
punkman	RagnarDanneskjol: WoL board moves on each block, not much betting to be done right now	[13:56]
RagnarDanneskjol	i see	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	it actually found 12 blocks in the past ~16 hours, so like 100 days at the current rate.	[13:57]
mircea_popescu	%p	[13:58]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1459.91 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.07 TH/s	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	hm. whtf is happening thar tho.	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo hey, did X-Rob's rig die or something ?	[13:58]
BingoBoingo	It must be down	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	ding ding X-Rob! IMA DOCK YA!	[13:59]
BingoBoingo	http://coinminer.net:19982/static/ << chart	[14:00]
assbot	_-=* CoinMiner Pool *=-_	[14:00]
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RagnarDanneskjol	I could be wrong, but something tells me that is a pool issue	[14:03]
RagnarDanneskjol	is ATC the only coin they have active? all other coin pages are non-existent	[14:04]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol something as in what ?	[14:05]
RagnarDanneskjol	lots of experience fukin with pools	[14:05]
RagnarDanneskjol	and all the other coins pages are not live	[14:06]
RagnarDanneskjol	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197906.msg5870328#msg5870328	[14:07]
assbot	[Pool] _-=* CoinMiner Pool *=-_ 42 http://coinminer.net:19991/	[14:07]
BingoBoingo	Well it seems to be reporting 60 GH/s in other hash on the pool	[14:07]
RagnarDanneskjol	I get no datqa received for tht page	[14:08]
BingoBoingo	?	[14:08]
RagnarDanneskjol	browser says "No data received"	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	odd.	[14:10]
BingoBoingo	I see a page that when you scroll down a bit has this chart https://imgur.com/7bhRyjD	[14:12]
assbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[14:12]
RagnarDanneskjol	google coinminer pool - first hit after the forum links straight to ATC pool - all the other coin tabs on top of that page lead me to dead links -I'm almost certain thats the only coin being mined there - unless I'm missing something	[14:13]
RagnarDanneskjol	right I see that too	[14:13]
RagnarDanneskjol	all other coin pools are not there I believe	[14:14]
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RagnarDanneskjol	ahh - found something other than ATC - http://coinminer.net:7903/static/	[14:16]
assbot	p2pool	[14:16]
pankkake	I've had issues with that pool	[14:16]
RagnarDanneskjol	p2pools always seem to have issues - what was yours?	[14:18]
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pankkake	I was mining but it was rejecting my submissions, or maybe just not registering them. I forgot	[14:19]
RagnarDanneskjol	slow/inconsistent shares are to be expected unless you have 100% uptime	[14:19]
pankkake	yeah, I know	[14:20]
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BingoBoingo	It was picked because it seemed to suck least for the purpose here, and getting paid in the coinbase tx makes it easy to verify payments	[14:22]
RagnarDanneskjol	I know more than a few highly competent pool hosts if this one proves unreliable	[14:22]
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RagnarDanneskjol	I could almost do it myself, but not quite	[14:23]
BingoBoingo	Well, it's worked so far which is a timeline which stretches back to... this past weekend	[14:23]
RagnarDanneskjol	OH	[14:23]
BingoBoingo	I mean the pool is much older than that	[14:24]
RagnarDanneskjol	I see	[14:24]
BingoBoingo	It's just since ATC stalled out it was the only pool that was responsive to our rented hash	[14:24]
RagnarDanneskjol	gotcha - I'll work on that	[14:25]
BingoBoingo	And the p2pool type paying with the coinbase tx is very desirable, if it were replaced or needed to be replaced, that is a thing I'd like to see	[14:25]
RagnarDanneskjol	sure	[14:25]
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BingoBoingo	For now though it seems the simplest explanation is prolly the rig's down	[14:32]
BingoBoingo	Byt X-Rob explained there's some stuff this pool does that isn't optimal... so a replacement wouldn't be horrible down the line	[14:32]
BingoBoingo	X-rob would have to explain what the not-quite optimal stuff is	[14:32]
RagnarDanneskjol	I'd almost bet $ its the pool, but are they not one in the same provider?	[14:33]
RagnarDanneskjol	i could point some hardwarev there myself to test later today	[14:34]
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mircea_popescu	!up cardigm	[14:38]
-assbot-	You voiced cardigm for 30 minutes.	[14:38]
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mircea_popescu	I know more than a few highly competent pool hosts if this one proves unreliable << so hook something up	[14:38]
nubbins`	ahahahaha, http://imgur.com/gallery/4vCAr	[14:38]
assbot	Ice Bucket Challenge Gone Wrong - Imgur	[14:38]
nubbins`	amazing how few people understand physics and gravity	[14:38]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[14:38]
nubbins`	"maybe if i push this heavy object off a rail, it'll upend itself for some reason"	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` that first fucktard... jesus god she's bleeding from the tits	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	quick, a badaid, a pastie ,s omething	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	god forbid the internet sees anon nipple or something, someone may care	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	she'll be turned down for employment and dental insurance.	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	her children will catch the gout.	[14:39]
nubbins`	heh	[14:39]
nubbins`	the best is the third one	[14:39]
nubbins`	where the guy drops a 50lb weight on his daughter's heads	[14:40]
RagnarDanneskjol	I already suggested a few a while back when this discussion first took place. I will gather my list and get it all ready later today	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	cnat even find someone to dump water on her head, figures someone gives a shit about her tits.	[14:40]
nubbins`	ahhh i can't breathe	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	omfg	[14:40]
RagnarDanneskjol	http://www.livechains.net/ is first that comes to mind	[14:41]
assbot	LiveChains UK	[14:41]
cazalla	fire challenge is better imo	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	assfucking challenge is best.	[14:43]
nubbins`	http://imgur.com/W2M2s1w	[14:43]
assbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[14:43]
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BingoBoingo	RagnarDanneskjol: From ther faq	[14:43]
BingoBoingo	What are Tilera and Arbor	[14:43]
BingoBoingo	Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit. Repellendus, nobis, dignissimos, voluptatibus veritatis aliquid magni labore tempora fugit rerum eaque deserunt odio voluptatum recusandae assumenda beatae veniam maxime eveniet iste!Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipisicing elit. Suscipit repellendus velit rem libero dicta sint rerum id quasi! Fugit, dolorum eligendi alias veniam praesentium at rerum aut sapiente	[14:43]
BingoBoingo	in cumque.	[14:43]
chetty	cnat even find someone to dump water on her head, figures someone gives a shit about her tits.//problem is of course that they do, at least next time she wants a job or smthn	[14:44]
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mircea_popescu	in trhat case the problem is them. but srsly...	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	if my job were to screen all applicants for possible interwebs exposure...	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	i can't tell these people apart. unless she starts writing her gpg fingerprint on her boobs nobody can tell her from eve.	[14:45]
chetty	well yeah its their problem but still not gonna get that job ...	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	could you say if this animated gif is this irl girl or not ?	[14:45]
chetty	I am sure there are people that can, the data collection monster knows all (well almost)	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/lLkFmLV.gif << someone explain this ?	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	chetty not out of 200x200 px srsly.	[14:46]
RagnarDanneskjol	BoingoBoingo - they just switched to a new template for their page and clearly are off their game. I and several others have hired them in the past (going back over a year ago) and they deliver pools as described... I think they have p2pool also, but dont see listed	[14:47]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu that's actually not water, but a super-slippery fluid with almost zero friction coefficient	[14:47]
nubbins`	the other two girls have gecko feet	[14:48]
nubbins`	or they're wearing crocs	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	or they're you know, the sort of brainstem limited derps that'd be on facebook.	[14:48]
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RagnarDanneskjol	BoingoBoingo - Im gonna call them right now to figure out their status (phone #s on the page)	[14:50]
BingoBoingo	RagnarDanneskjol: Oh, cool	[14:53]
RagnarDanneskjol	talkin - they picked right up	[14:55]
RagnarDanneskjol	wow	[14:55]
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RagnarDanneskjol	Ok - I spoke to Mark with his charming british acent -they are a little backlogged, but can deliver pools in 36-48 hours, also offer cloud mining contracts. These guys are fukin pro.. Imma follow up with email to you guys w/ details. Worth giving them a call just to hear what they're up to.	[15:03]
RagnarDanneskjol	they can do p2pool or whatever you need	[15:04]
BingoBoingo	Interesting	[15:04]
RagnarDanneskjol	they came highly recommended from the LA bitcoin regulars - heard of them a year ago and used them myself for a small test pool a ways back	[15:05]
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RagnarDanneskjol	once pools are setup, the backend control panel stuff is super simple to manage yourself	[15:07]
BingoBoingo	%p	[15:08]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.06 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1356.06 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.68 TH/s	[15:08]
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BingoBoingo	!up Duffer1	[15:10]
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mircea_popescu	http://cynic.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/bitcoin-laws-of-the-universe.jpg	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	not so bad, which one of you is it ?	[15:13]
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HeySteve	hi	[15:16]
BingoBoingo	Hi	[15:16]
novusordo	http://guardianlv.com/2014/08/bitcoin-expands-as-stock-price-falls/	[15:17]
assbot	Bitcoin Expands as Stock Price Falls (Update)	[15:17]
HeySteve	mircea_popescu the slogan points to woodwallets.io	[15:17]
HeySteve	novusordo from that link "Coinbase is an international digital wallet" - not truly int'l as nations sanctioned by USG are excluded	[15:21]
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punkman	"As Bitcoin expands across the world and their stock price falls to historic lows on Wall Street, crypto-currency remains one that is open to everyone."	[15:33]
punkman	lol	[15:33]
nubbins`	mp, nice graphic	[15:36]
nubbins`	are you sure that's not an egg being fertilized? ;D	[15:36]
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mircea_popescu	HeySteve universal is much better than "international"	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	as afaik no nation has yet been recognised by the blockchain, and so...	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` well as sure as you can ever be when eggs fertilisation comes into play.	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	novusordo hey there.	[15:45]
nubbins`	!up aspho	[15:45]
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mircea_popescu	!up bertani_	[15:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33710 @ 0.00069723 = 23.5036 BTC [+] {2}	[15:48]
aspho	Oh, thanks nubbins.	[15:49]
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nubbins`	np	[16:01]
The20YearIRCloud	hi	[16:02]
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aspho	Been reading the logs for the last long time, before coming here. Learning the variety speak.	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	hows that coming along ?	[16:09]
aspho	Pretty good, still a lot of archives to cover.	[16:10]
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assbot	usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5	[16:18]
aspho	Thanks nubbins but gotta run, back later tonight.	[16:18]
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nubbins`	hahah	[16:20]
nubbins`	lel @ usagi	[16:20]
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nubbins`	;;gettrust assbot usagi	[16:20]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask usagi!~tsukino22@unaffiliated/tsukino. Trust relationship from user assbot to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 7 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=usagi \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi \| Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012	[16:20]
kakobrekla	!up usagi	[16:21]
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usagi	thanks. I wanted to ask aspho a question heh, but thanks	[16:22]
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usagi	So, anyone into Django Reinhardt"?	[16:28]
usagi	Some of his work with Beryl Davis is my favorite	[16:30]
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nubbins`	https://myspace.com/shitloadoftits/music/song/jango-purdy-live-1017320-1032704	[16:33]
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nubbins`	if only he'd worked with bernard purdy ;(	[16:33]
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usagi	What genre would you call that? sounds a little funky	[16:35]
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nubbins`	usagi, i think they call it "math rock"	[16:36]
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nubbins`	i bought the rights to their first album yesterday :0	[16:37]
nubbins`	these are really early recordings, from before they even had a bass player	[16:37]
nubbins`	https://myspace.com/shitloadoftits/music/song/there-she-was-gone-live-1017322-1032706	[16:37]
usagi	the rights? so your into music then	[16:38]
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novusordo	mircea_popescu hiya	[16:40]
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usagi	Most of the music I like is so old the copyright has expired	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	copyright covers performance you ninny. unless you're listening to an amphora capture of original greek choruses, it's covered alright.	[16:43]
usagi	I would imagine thats why he bought the rights	[16:44]
usagi	So for example he could then play the music in a venue that didn't purchase cover song licensing	[16:44]
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nubbins`	actually, i bought the rights so i could re-release the album	[16:44]
usagi	You must really like these guys hehe	[16:45]
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nubbins`	amazing album from a band that's on the top-five list of every music lover in the city	[16:47]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[16:47]
nubbins`	and they broke up two weeks after they released it, so there were only ~25 copies ever bought	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	and yet you look nothing like john cussack	[16:48]
nubbins`	haha	[16:49]
nubbins`	above the collar, sure	[16:49]
usagi	I plan to get into music a lot more once I retire	[16:49]
nubbins`	why wait? and also, i thought we were all retired?	[16:49]
usagi	My job is exhausting.	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	yeah who let the unretired in!	[16:49]
nubbins`	^	[16:50]
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mircea_popescu	this is the internet house of old people AND GIT OFF MA LAWNS	[16:50]
nubbins`	your job is exhausting, so you can't listen to music to unwind? :/	[16:50]
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nubbins`	!up aspho	[16:50]
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usagi	I mean playing music. I am split between the piano and the guitar	[16:50]
nubbins`	ah	[16:50]
usagi	I really, really like both instruments. I'll probably end up with piano	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` reminds me of the woman that claimed she can'tr fuck because migraine	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	as if that's not the exact and only cure.	[16:51]
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nubbins`	dude, you ever masturbate with a headache? once you cum it's SO MUCH WORSE	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	not for guys	[16:51]
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mircea_popescu	real men don't get headaches.	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	no head to ache.	[16:51]
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mircea_popescu	(also i dont recall the last time i jacked off)	[16:52]
nubbins`	!up usagi	[16:52]
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nubbins`	;o	[16:52]
nubbins`	fun fact, magic mushrooms are an effective treatment for cluster migraines	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	people ridicule the every sperm is sacred doods, and i can see it	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	but i tell you... seems such a waste.	[16:53]
nubbins`	ah, man and his symbols	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	more like nude practicality. i cant keep up with the girls anyway, why make it worse.	[16:55]
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chetty	you havent lived till you have had Coital cephalalgia	[16:58]
nubbins`	hah	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	that, a glass eye and a spastic colon ?	[16:59]
nubbins`	i thought we all had spastic colons?	[17:00]
chetty	is a rare type of severe headache that occurs at the base of the skull before orgasm during sexual activity	[17:00]
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nubbins`	hmm, i have a jar of almond butter that's been recalled due to salmonella risk	[17:12]
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mod6	oh cool, mpex.co is back	[17:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00069671 = 10.0326 BTC [+]	[17:33]
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pete_dushenski	;;bc,stats	[17:35]
gribble	Current Blocks: 316642 \| Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 \| Next Difficulty In: 1885 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes, and 10 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 26952826341.6 \| Estimated Percent Change: 13.03501	[17:35]
pete_dushenski	;;ticker	[17:37]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 499.92, Best ask: 501.98, Bid-ask spread: 2.06000, Last trade: 501.99, 24 hour volume: 15603.05805411, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 502.95, 24 hour vwap: 484.781556984	[17:37]
pete_dushenski	o hey 500	[17:37]
BingoBoingo	I'm a bit behind, is 500 rising or crashing?	[17:37]
HeySteve	rising, about $30 in 8 hours	[17:38]
pete_dushenski	https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/501880092407398401	[17:39]
assbot	Important read on randomness and Kolmogorov complexity: http://t.co/7GvlEz0Q6F This is why entropy matters: http://t.co/Gd6urFTU2s	[17:39]
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HeySteve	https://www.deckbound.com/invest	[17:49]
assbot	Deckbound -- digital collectible trading card games built on top of the Bitcoin blockchain	[17:49]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: and by too clean i mean the sort that doesn't bareback random whores because "who knows what may happen" << this point has me reflecting. am i scanning the world of business ideas for puuurfect? when non-broken will suffice? well fuck.	[17:55]
pete_dushenski	decimation: heh perhaps I should pick an orthogonal basis << there's always the ol' first_last!	[17:57]
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pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: 'homo redditicus' << lulz. let's make this term canonical	[18:01]
pankkake	what's wrong with redditard?	[18:02]
pankkake	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=redditard great description btw	[18:03]
assbot	Urban Dictionary: redditard	[18:03]
pete_dushenski	really, nothing	[18:03]
pankkake	"One must always be aware that their fodder for arguments consists of internet memes and attempts at being witty" same goes for twitter, not that you could do anything else there	[18:03]
pete_dushenski	less scientific, less gay jokey	[18:03]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: the students are asked to simply memorize the book of, e.g, organic reactions. << myeah. tis perfect med skool prep	[18:04]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: more 'weedout' than prep	[18:08]
pete_dushenski	well 'prep' in the sense that if you can't memorize the bible in latin, med school will rape you	[18:09]
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asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: the interesting part of that thread was that, afaik, there isn't anywhere you can go in usa to study 'proper' chemistry	[18:11]
asciilifeform	(other than a library)	[18:11]
pete_dushenski	right. a concept which stretches across much of university	[18:12]
nubbins`	<- CS degree, wrote exactly two working programs as part of my CS curriculum	[18:12]
pete_dushenski	mistaking them for learning institutions is how you end up 29 yo and single	[18:12]
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pete_dushenski	and on tinder	[18:12]
nubbins`	is that the app that lets you anonymously tell women you want to cum on their tits?	[18:13]
asciilifeform	nubbins`: we had actual program-writing (os, compiler, busloads of data structure crud, etc.)	[18:13]
nubbins`	asciilifeform jealous :/	[18:13]
asciilifeform	nah 'tinder' should be an app where you sign up to burn on the stake.	[18:13]
nubbins`	hey, this printer stopped mid-page with an out-of-ink warning. i fixed the problem, and it's picking up where it left off.	[18:13]
nubbins`	have never seen this in action before :0	[18:14]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: tinder is grindr for straight pplz	[18:15]
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nubbins`	is grindr that app that lets you anonymously tell men you want to cum on their tits?	[18:15]
pete_dushenski	sorta "hi please to hook up with me based on glamour shots from when i was 5 years younger"	[18:15]
pankkake	tinder isn't anonymous, it requires facebook	[18:16]
pete_dushenski	nubbins`: lol yup	[18:16]
pankkake	and a smartphone	[18:16]
pete_dushenski	now there's a market: anonymous smartphone apps!	[18:17]
mike_c	;;later tell RagnarDanneskjol are you working on an ATC block explorer?	[18:17]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 117 @ 0.00600099 = 0.7021 BTC [+]	[18:18]
pete_dushenski	decimation: 'pep rally' << been to a few of these myself. because morale! at least our school had the bestest cheerleaders in the city	[18:20]
asciilifeform	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kAXcIlA1MI (unrelated)	[18:21]
assbot	Video Oddities Ep 77 - Chad VanGaalen's Molten Light - YouTube	[18:21]
pete_dushenski	;;later tell mircea_popescu more on the fasting http://contravex.com/2014/08/17/who-are-we-not-nationals/#comment-4734	[18:22]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:22]
assbot	Who Are We? Not Nationals \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski	[18:22]
pete_dushenski	17 comments: a record is me	[18:22]
pankkake	https://www.fightaging.org/archives/2014/08/an-interesting-paper-on-calorie-restriction.php (didn't read)	[18:24]
assbot	An Interesting Paper on Calorie Restriction	[18:24]
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pete_dushenski	pankkake: we're trying to tease apart the research on calorie restriction and that on fasting, but still interesting	[18:25]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: at the time in question, you literally could not go on a date if you sucked in school. << sounds like some kind of miracle land compared to the anti-intellectual "i are sportsstar" culture here	[18:26]
nubbins`	asciilifeform, i'm a huge chad vangaalen fan	[18:30]
nubbins`	why's the audio so shit on this version?	[18:31]
nubbins`	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLw5b70OJH8	[18:32]
assbot	Chad VanGaalen - Molten Light (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - YouTube	[18:32]
assbot	usagi +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -5	[18:33]
asciilifeform	!up usagi	[18:33]
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usagi	For me, one of the most interesting features of a water fast is that your body will cut down on it's extraneous muscle mass as well as body fat. I will have to try it one of these days	[18:33]
usagi	When I read that it gave me a number of ideas	[18:33]
nubbins`	"extraneous muscle mass"	[18:34]
usagi	I mean it sounds obvious, but actually, the way in which the body goes about reducing it's muscle mass is something which is fascinating to me	[18:34]
asciilifeform	kurt godel was a master of 'caloric restriction'	[18:34]
nubbins`	asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZWfE2dPFSo	[18:35]
assbot	Shave My Pussy - Chad VanGaalen - YouTube	[18:35]
usagi	Well nubbins when I say that I mean certain things about opposing muscle tension	[18:36]
usagi	It's some random sports medicine stuff I am studying	[18:36]
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nubbins`	oh, no way? cool	[18:40]
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usagi	Yea it has to do with your body overcompensating for keeping it's balance (for example) by adding extra muscle mass to groups of muscles in reciprocal inhibition, mass you don't need and which interferes with your motion	[18:41]
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usagi	My theory is if you perform certain kinds of exercises your body will cut out the extraneous muscle mass inhibiting your motion and you will be able to move/respond quicker using less energy. Useful for sports	[18:42]
usagi	I also imagine the restriction would also allow you to increase or reduce the ratio of fast twitch fibres, because theoretically the body wouldn't toss out muscle mass which is being frequently used	[18:43]
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thestringpuller	usagi uh, it has more to do with flexibility of ligiments	[18:52]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: we acceot	[18:53]
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thestringpuller	accept your offer. can we discuss terms today?	[18:53]
nubbins`	sure, i'm back and forth here for the next hour or so	[18:53]
thestringpuller	lemme see if i can get the designer on the line	[18:54]
nubbins`	how many did ya want, 6 or 12?	[18:54]
nubbins`	or ___?	[18:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 46 @ 0.0127 = 0.5842 BTC [-]	[19:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 13.25936164 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1153 satoshi per share	[19:00]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] [PAID] 28.45581781 BTC to 14`329 shares, 198589 satoshi per share	[19:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.51099305 BTC to 14`329 shares, 10545 satoshi per share	[19:05]
thestringpuller	nubbins`: desogner is walking to class. so in about 30 minutes he will be here	[19:08]
nubbins`	no sweat	[19:08]
nubbins`	not really much to go over. graphics in vector format, preferably .AI with spot colors	[19:08]
nubbins`	300dpi+ psd files grudgingly accepted	[19:08]
thestringpuller	LOL	[19:09]
BingoBoingo	http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php	[19:11]
assbot	Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her \| Riverfront Times	[19:11]
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TomServo	hey hey hey, shit in StL is too serious - we need to focus on beheaded journalists now.	[19:14]
nubbins`	^	[19:15]
BingoBoingo	"We want to find out who and what agency took possession of the bullet," he said. "We want to identify who was responsible for firing the weapon that ended up with a bullet being lodged in the front of Mya's head."	[19:15]
BingoBoingo	When we spoke with him several hours later, the story just got weirder.	[19:15]
BingoBoingo	"I've talked to both the St. Louis County Police Department and Ferguson...they have no record...no file number, no report," he said. "They don't have anything."	[19:15]
nubbins`	yeah, don't you dummies realize a white guy was killed the other day?	[19:15]
nubbins`	BingoBoingo: the hospital would have taken note of who took the bullet, no?	[19:16]
BingoBoingo	nubbins`: Might be time to break out the aluminum foil	[19:16]
BingoBoingo	Makes pretty wallpaper	[19:16]
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pete_dushenski	http://www.nophone.eu	[19:32]
assbot	noPhone. A technology-free alternative to constant hand-to-phone contact.	[19:32]
pete_dushenski	"With a thin, light and completely wireless design, the noPhone acts as a surrogate to any smart mobile device, enabling you to always have a rectangle of smooth, cold plastic to clutch without forgoing any potential engagement with your direct environment. Never again experience the unsettling feeling of flesh on flesh when closing your hand. "	[19:33]
pete_dushenski	lulz	[19:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 555 @ 0.00119996 = 0.666 BTC [+]	[19:33]
nubbins`	Q: for those of us with metal-and-glass phones, is there an alternative to the classic noPhone? plastic is yucky.	[19:34]
pete_dushenski	that's a premium upgrade	[19:34]
nubbins`	ah	[19:35]
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pete_dushenski	as bugs bunny used to say "that's all folks!"	[19:36]
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thestringpuller	!up petepolack	[19:43]
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thestringpuller	nubbins`: you still there?	[19:43]
thestringpuller	petepolack is the designer	[19:43]
nubbins`	hi	[19:53]
thestringpuller	one second he is getting in WoT	[19:53]
thestringpuller	;)	[19:53]
thestringpuller	one of us one of us	[19:53]
nubbins`	heh	[19:55]
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thestringpuller	kay he needs to get to class	[19:55]
thestringpuller	he will log in when he gets there	[19:55]
thestringpuller	be back in 10	[19:56]
nubbins`	i'm outta time, maybe we can reconnect tomorrow	[19:56]
nubbins`	unless he has specific questions for me, there's not a lot to discuss anyway	[19:56]
thestringpuller	okay can we email you gpg encrypted AI file and then go from there?	[19:58]
thestringpuller	then you can send us gpg signed invoice in BTC?	[19:58]
thestringpuller	We want 6 shirts	[19:58]
thestringpuller	1 color	[19:58]
thestringpuller	black	[19:58]
thestringpuller	and white ink	[19:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29841998 = 2.9842 BTC [+] {2}	[19:59]
nubbins`	sure	[19:59]
thestringpuller	kay we'll talk to you tomorrow then and get everything paid for	[19:59]
nubbins`	gotta admit you've piqued my curiosity as to why you'd gpg encrypt graphics	[19:59]
thestringpuller	I'll pay entirety up front	[19:59]
thestringpuller	shrug paranoia	[19:59]
nubbins`	i'm not printing hatespeech on a shirt for you ;p	[19:59]
thestringpuller	oh no	[19:59]
nubbins`	heh	[19:59]
thestringpuller	i guess we just don't want the image to "leak"	[20:00]
thestringpuller	?	[20:00]
thestringpuller	only you should be recipient	[20:00]
nubbins`	pm'd you email address for graphics	[20:00]
thestringpuller	"intended recipient" blah blah	[20:00]
thestringpuller	kay	[20:00]
nubbins`	grab my key from the wot	[20:00]
thestringpuller	yea!	[20:00]
thestringpuller	cool well talk to you tomorrow then	[20:00]
nubbins`	k, peace	[20:00]
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thestringpuller	!up petepolack	[20:02]
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nubbins`	http://i.imgur.com/FlBSBcO.gif	[20:08]
nubbins`	STOP RESISTING ARREST	[20:08]
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X-Rob	mircea_popescu: The pool died, it switched to my backup pool, and then didn't switch back automatically when the pool got better.	[20:09]
mike_c	;;calc 3056 * 0.0001	[20:09]
gribble	0.3056	[20:09]
X-Rob	Have fixed it, hopefully it won't do it again. Sorry.	[20:09]
mike_c	my computer is retarded. 3056 / 10000 = 0.3056, but 3056 * 0.0001 = 0.30560000000004	[20:10]
thestringpuller	petepolack: okay now we register	[20:10]
thestringpuller	;;eregister	[20:10]
gribble	(eregister ) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key with . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase (1 more message)	[20:10]
thestringpuller	soo ;;eregister petepolack YOURKEYID	[20:11]
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petepolack	(eregister petepolack D4ECFBB385737831)	[20:11]
petepolack	:(	[20:11]
fluffypony	petepolack: /msg gribble ;;eregister petepolack D4ECFBB385737831	[20:12]
thestringpuller	Everyone is so helpful	[20:12]
thestringpuller	thanks fluffypony !	[20:12]
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petepolack	alright thanks, got it	[20:12]
BingoBoingo	X-Rob: Well, we're looking into maybe getting a new p2pool set up for this coin given how shit this one seems to be, so news on that might be incoming.	[20:13]
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X-Rob	BingoBoingo: how about I set up a pool?	[20:15]
BingoBoingo	X-Rob: Uh, sure.	[20:15]
X-Rob	BingoBoingo: I'll do it this weekend.	[20:16]
BingoBoingo	X-Rob: Can you do the p2pool type thing that gets people paid in the coinbase?	[20:16]
thestringpuller	X-Rob: sell me coins!!!!	[20:16]
thestringpuller	lol	[20:16]
thestringpuller	jkjk	[20:16]
petepolack	thestringpuller: it worked	[20:16]
petepolack	damn	[20:16]
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kakobrekla	wasnt it /msg kakobrekla	[20:18]
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kakobrekla	pretty sure it was.	[20:19]
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punkman	mike_c: my computer is retarded. 3056 / 10000 = 0.3056, but 3056 * 0.0001 = 0.30560000000004 << javascript?	[20:33]
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mike_c	python	[20:33]
punkman	I did my bitbet app without decimals, didn't notice a problem	[20:38]
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ben_vulpes	holy logs	[20:44]
ben_vulpes	i'm 1100 lines behind	[20:45]
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mike_c	jurov: yeah, I use decimal's pretty liberally. this calculation wasn't coin related.	[20:49]
punkman	oh I see now, it worked because I didn't use my (satoshi / 100000000.0) results in further calculations	[20:50]
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mike_c	i also use a curiously large number of extraneous apostrophes.	[21:01]
mike_c	anyhoo. i get floating point stupidness. just mildly surprised the division & multiplication are different.	[21:01]
mike_c	i thought it had more to do with the result than the inputs.	[21:02]
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kakobrekla	just intify errything	[21:09]
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mircea_popescu	oh cool, mpex.co is back << last week or so	[21:13]
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mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski> well fuck. << there is no such thing as a perfect wife, horse or business idea.	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	wives horses and business ideas are what you make of them.	[21:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 65 @ 0.0107 = 0.6955 BTC [+]	[21:16]
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mircea_popescu	!up Wexel	[21:20]
-assbot-	You voiced Wexel for 30 minutes.	[21:20]
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mircea_popescu	!up Brigadier	[21:20]
-assbot-	You voiced Brigadier for 30 minutes.	[21:20]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform: (other than a library) << "there isn't where t og oin the usa for aspirin other than pharmacy". o woe ?	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	nubbins`: is that the app that lets you anonymously tell women you want to cum on their tits? <<< you know, this is very popular with a large section of the female population, but the woman that wants dribbling by random people she doesn't know is quite rare.	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	it's more like part of cuddling, in the female mind.	[21:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21453 @ 0.00069092 = 14.8223 BTC [-]	[21:28]
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mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski: decimation: 'pep rally' << been to a few of these myself. because morale! at least our school had the bestest cheerleaders in the city << because they were... immoral ?	[21:29]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins`: "extraneous muscle mass" << penis.	[21:30]
BingoBoingo	lol https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvgEWBDIEAErBVN.jpg	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i see your Shave My Pussy and i raise you a Narcotic.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JSXCfGWjqA	[21:31]
assbot	Liquido - Narcotic (HD) - YouTube	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php << o look at that. us police shoots civillian in the street, goes to hospital, steals bullet, disappears it.	[21:35]
assbot	Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her \| Riverfront Times	[21:35]
mircea_popescu	this is so romanian revolution it bleeds.	[21:36]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: That's what I'm thinking, well the police stealing their bullet back. I dunno if pale America is ready to take Obama out back yet.	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	what's obama to do with this ?	[21:37]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well, wasn't that the end of the Romanian revolution?	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	nubbins`: BingoBoingo: the hospital would have taken note of who took the bullet, no? << well if they didn't, either the police comissioner hangs or they got themselves a police state.	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	either way.	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	guy'd better pray they did take note.	[21:38]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo yes. difference being that they never shot gorbachev.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	so you know, missouri governor ?	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski: that's a premium upgrade << cut glass. 10 bux in any mirror shop.	[21:40]
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hanbot	is it nice out?	[21:42]
thestringpuller	penguirker:	[21:43]
thestringpuller	penguirker:	[21:43]
thestringpuller	lol	[21:43]
thestringpuller	oops	[21:43]
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mircea_popescu	!up petenineteen	[21:47]
Panadol_	pankkake penguirker Perlboy petenineteen Petrodriller pharesim phf` phish pi07r Pilate pizzaman1337 Poffertje praeconium princessnell PsychoticBoy Pucilowski_ punkman	[21:47]
-assbot-	You voiced petenineteen for 30 minutes.	[21:47]
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mircea_popescu	petenineteen seriously ?	[21:47]
BingoBoingo	That sounds like a cam girl screen name, except pete	[21:48]
mircea_popescu	speaking of which, a food chain here is called mustachios.	[21:48]
BingoBoingo	lol	[21:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3215 @ 0.00119007 = 3.8261 BTC [+] {3}	[21:49]
thestringpuller	okay petenineteen	[21:49]
thestringpuller	;;eregister	[21:49]
gribble	(eregister ) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key with . is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase (1 more message)	[21:49]
thestringpuller	petenineteen: -^	[21:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 563 @ 0.00119996 = 0.6756 BTC [+] {2}	[21:50]
mike_c	eregister something_other_than_petenineteen	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	petetwelveandwhatisthis ?	[21:51]
thestringpuller	is petenineteen taken?	[21:51]
thestringpuller	lol	[21:51]
thestringpuller	;;gettrust petenineteen	[21:51]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user petenineteen: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=petenineteen \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=petenineteen \| Rated since: never	[21:51]
mike_c	what's the record for most trolling before the guy even opens his mouth?	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	his mom ?	[21:51]
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assbot	Umlala - My Pdf Files (Official Video) - YouTube	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Looks like this is going through October http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/mcculloch-grand-jury-to-get-evidence-in-ferguson-case-through/article_a2893384-0bcf-51a9-b479-9c7e9496c6a1.html	[21:54]
assbot	McCulloch: Grand jury to get evidence in Ferguson case through mid-October : News	[21:54]
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mircea_popescu	dignork ok, i didn't want to do this but you asked for it. prepare to be glassed.	[21:56]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOwhdkJcz-c	[21:56]
assbot	Hot Girl tania and me Pwning Noobs on The Tell-Lie-Vision (ATHENE #22) - YouTube	[21:56]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33963 @ 0.00068791 = 23.3635 BTC [-] {2}	[22:05]
thestringpuller	damn mpoe below IPO v3 listing?	[22:07]
thestringpuller	wow	[22:07]
thestringpuller	BUY BUY BUY	[22:07]
mike_c	fiat -> btc -> mpoe = two profits?	[22:10]
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BingoBoingo	lol, but whose bank are you going to break on the way there?	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	the two profits of internets.	[22:11]
mircea_popescu	but yea srsly, in the space of six months i went from >1bn to like what, 200mn ?	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	am i like the biggest loser of the summer or what!	[22:12]
dignork	mircea_popescu: the guy is playing a wrong game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC7GGrUdJUI&t=0m25s	[22:12]
assbot	Russian Roulette in Wedding gone Wrong - Roulette Russa a Matrimonio - YouTube	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	dignork srsly. he's such a total dork you could not believe.	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	the chick however, she comes from money, ran for the danish pirate party iirc, got a seat.	[22:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29879999 = 0.5976 BTC [+]	[22:18]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: where t og oin the usa for aspirin other than pharmacy". o woe << (practical) chemistry is an experimental science. very 'seat of the pants', like metalwork or any other work with hands.	[22:18]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: yes, you can study under the cover of darkness, in a cellar, with black-market materials. but it used to be, you could also study at a university.	[22:19]
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dignork	Sad story happened to my friend recently. He lost ~1btc to Chrome toolbar, which replaced deposit btc address on coinbase withdrawal form. Can somebody suggest coinbase to implement gpg-signed orders?	[22:21]
thestringpuller	$depth mpoe	[22:21]
empyex	thestringpuller: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=135 Or use a valid MPSIC!	[22:21]
thestringpuller	$depth s.mpoe	[22:21]
empyex	thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Bids: 33287 @ 0.00068725 12200 @ 0.00068618 350 @ 0.00063000 25000 @ 0.00060000	[22:21]
empyex	thestringpuller: [S.MPOE] Asks: 26998 @ 0.00068872 10271 @ 0.00069092 23339 @ 0.00069415 40110 @ 0.00069671	[22:21]
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danielpbarron	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl6DizyZgFY << "Bitcoin is the walk-man, Black coin is the iPad"	[22:23]
assbot	BLACKCOIN - The Music Video - YouTube	[22:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33487 @ 0.00068724 = 23.0136 BTC [-] {2}	[22:29]
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BingoBoingo	!up aspho	[22:33]
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BingoBoingo	!up shovel_boss	[22:33]
punkman	dignork, that sucks. maybe if he makes a fuss coinbase will refund that withdrawal	[22:33]
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BingoBoingo	Hello assbot shovel_boss	[22:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00068618 = 8.3714 BTC [-]	[22:35]
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TomServo	http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/20/berkshirehathaway-settlement-idUSL2N0QQ1LR20140820	[22:39]
assbot	UPDATE 3-U.S. fines Berkshire over stock deal, Buffett admits mistake\| Reuters	[22:39]
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TomServo	gave Berkshire a reputation as a lender of last resort when financial markets come under strain << Hadn't heard that line before.	[22:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1500 @ 0.00119997 = 1.8 BTC [+]	[22:42]
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dignork	punkman: afaik, no, coinbase received order to send to address X, instead of Y, they had now way of detecting it, because it's just http request altered on the client side	[23:00]
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mod6	;;ticker	[23:12]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 521.98, Best ask: 522.99, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 521.96, 24 hour volume: 17498.21146377, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 527.01, 24 hour vwap: 494.872496909	[23:12]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1919 @ 0.00065107 = 1.2494 BTC [-]	[23:22]
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BingoBoingo	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_a_Fugitive_from_a_Chain_Gang	[23:25]
assbot	I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[23:25]
ben_vulpes	;;ticker	[23:26]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 519.49, Best ask: 519.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 519.49, 24 hour volume: 17774.39850899, 24 hour low: 466.0, 24 hour high: 527.01, 24 hour vwap: 495.727614364	[23:26]
ben_vulpes	that floppy btc trampoline	[23:26]
ben_vulpes	420 min after the etf?	[23:26]
pankkake	;;ticker --market bcent --currency eur	[23:27]
gribble	Bitcoin-Central BTCEUR ticker \| Best bid: 395.0, Best ask: 400.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 400.0, 24 hour volume: 101.36987742, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 400.0, 24 hour vwap: 373.07105659	[23:27]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker --market all	[23:28]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 521.0, vol: 17792.87498487 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 510.7, vol: 8252.58738 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 516.02, vol: 28283.81807457 \| CampBX BTCUSD last: 546.99, vol: 36.78969469 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 512.568453, vol: 37552.61050000 \| Kraken BTCUSD last: 530.0, vol: 28.98932003 \| Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 530.52, vol: 101.36987742 \| Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)	[23:28]
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BingoBoingo	!up napedia	[23:31]
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BingoBoingo	!up peterl	[23:31]
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peterl	fluffypony here?	[23:32]
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peterl	on the topic of Chem in college: At MSU we had three levels of O-chem (which I helped teach), one for nurses, one for premed+scientists, and one for chemists	[23:33]
BingoBoingo	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plummer_v._State	[23:33]
assbot	Plummer v. State - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[23:33]
thestringpuller	BingoBoingo: so what's it like in MO	[23:33]
asciilifeform	peterl: this used to be common, i'm told. but eliminated at most large public unis, afaik, for cost-cutting.	[23:33]
thestringpuller	lootin nearby?	[23:33]
thestringpuller	loot all da stores	[23:34]
*	thestringpuller does not condone or endorse looting and rioting.	[23:34]
peterl	yeah, I guess they need the money to pay the football coaches now	[23:34]
BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: last night was a quiet night. After http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2014/08/mya_aaten-white_shooting_victim_from_aug_12_says_police_have_not_interviewed_her.php Tonight might be... who knows	[23:34]
assbot	Mya Aaten-White, Ferguson Shooting Victim, Says Police Have Not Interviewed Her \| Riverfront Times	[23:35]
ben_vulpes	copyright covers performance you ninny. unless you're listening to an amphora capture of original greek choruses, it's covered alright. << oh, bitcoin recognizes copyright but not patents?	[23:36]
thestringpuller	wow that	[23:36]
thestringpuller	is so fucked	[23:36]
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thestringpuller	when can sovereign entities use force if the police are militarized?	[23:36]
thestringpuller	isn't this how revolutions start?	[23:37]
thestringpuller	why can't*	[23:37]
thestringpuller	wow tired	[23:37]
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BingoBoingo	!up mpmcsweeney	[23:39]
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BingoBoingo	Hello mpmcsweeney	[23:39]
kakobrekla	have a tit http://blog.tastebuds.fm/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/worstalbumcovers01.jpeg	[23:39]
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BingoBoingo	thestringpuller: Well...prolly when people start getting naked	[23:40]
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