Forum logs for 19 Nov 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 720.93425, Best ask: 725.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.06575, Last trade: 716.00001, 24 hour volume: 66927.39030095, 24 hour low: 518.00003, 24 hour high: 750.0, 24 hour vwap: 612.23491	[00:00]
benkay	;;ticker --market all	[00:00]
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gribble	MtGox BTCUSD last: 722.0, vol: 66934.18068374 \| Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 626.05, vol: 53830.67329701 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 613.6, vol: 58834.7009 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 832.9716, vol: 104386.30200000 \| Volume-weighted last average: 722.145008174	[00:01]
benkay	;;calc 124.14*722.14	[00:01]
gribble	89646.4596	[00:01]
benkay	ben bernanke has a 90k bounty on his head	[00:01]
benkay	https://assmkedzgorodn7o.onion.lu/name/581f4285-4f2a-4a42-b7c5-cb736dc3e7c5	[00:01]
ozbot	Ben Shalom Bernanke, Assassination Market	[00:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.032 = 0.32 BTC [-]	[00:02]
benkay	assasination market faq: https://assmkedzgorodn7o.onion.lu/info	[00:02]
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Nuggie_	is there an admin i can chat with briefly in private?	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 124 @ 0.004 = 0.496 BTC [-] {4}	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 82 @ 0.00390101 = 0.3199 BTC [-] {2}	[00:04]
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dexX7	Diablo-D3: did you see the thread about d3 on the speculation board a few days ago?	[00:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-]	[00:05]
dexX7	eh sorry	[00:05]
dexX7	*securities	[00:05]
dexX7	this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334512.0	[00:05]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[00:05]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 725.0, Best ask: 729.68, Bid-ask spread: 4.68000, Last trade: 725.0, 24 hour volume: 66947.85640484, 24 hour low: 518.00003, 24 hour high: 750.0, 24 hour vwap: 612.73445	[00:05]
dexX7	ah it's from the guy who was in here earlier actually	[00:06]
pascal257	you mean this guy	[00:06]
dexX7	yes :)	[00:07]
pascal257	now that I could confirm that I got the exchanged shares I for one am happy, but I still don't approve what he did	[00:07]
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snackman	hi guys, having a bit of confusion with a bet I attempted to make	[00:08]
snackman	I bet on the 750 Gox bet early in the afternoon, but my transfer didn't make it in time	[00:09]
snackman	https://blockchain.info/address/13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX	[00:09]
ozbot	Bitcoin Address 13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX	[00:09]
Nuggie_	i have the same concern as snackman	[00:09]
Nuggie_	snackman, technically the bet hasn't been resolved yet	[00:09]
Nuggie_	since the bet calls for it to go OVER 750	[00:09]
snackman	that's true, but it will resolve momentarily	[00:10]
Nuggie_	but i'm in the same boat. no confirmation yet	[00:10]
Nuggie_	so my bet is en route	[00:10]
Nuggie_	is there an admin online that can help us?	[00:10]
benkay	well this is how betting with bitcoin works	[00:10]
snackman	I'm also confused because I see this: http://blockexplorer.com/address/13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX and this: https://blockchain.info/address/13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX	[00:10]
benkay	you have to account for transaction time in your bets	[00:10]
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snackman	@benkay do you represent bitbets?	[00:11]
benkay	hell no.	[00:11]
snackman	okay, is there anyone here who does?	[00:11]
kakobrekla	whats up	[00:11]
snackman	@Nuggie and I are both dealing with unconfirmed bet transactions	[00:11]
Nuggie_	kakobrekla, you are a bitbet admin?	[00:11]
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snackman	on the 750 gox bet	[00:11]
kakobrekla	sort of, speak up	[00:12]
snackman	I sent http://blockexplorer.com/address/13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX and this: https://blockchain.info/address/13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX	[00:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2564 @ 0.00104115 = 2.6695 BTC [-] {8}	[00:12]
Nuggie_	the bet hasn't been resolved yet. but it will be soon	[00:12]
Nuggie_	and we're afraid that our bet won't get confirmed in time	[00:12]
Nuggie_	this is mine: https://blockchain.info/tx/0fb0db68dc7fa0c098c7e43da95e80795ec810b3b0a2f561ec196a16d54542c8	[00:12]
dexX7	zero fee	[00:12]
snackman	right, and i'm also confused why blockexplorer shows my transaction and blockchain doesn't - anyone know why that is?	[00:12]
dexX7	ah nvm	[00:13]
snackman	yeah, I transferred from bets of bitcoin and apparently they didn't put a fee on it...	[00:13]
mike_c	i don't that is a win yet anyway. bet is above 750, and current high is 750.0	[00:13]
snackman	@mike_c true, but it is likely the bet will resolve before the transactions	[00:13]
Nuggie_	what are our options kakobrekla?	[00:14]
snackman	Can i pay to expedite my transaction after it's already been sent?	[00:14]
benkay	nope.	[00:15]
snackman	seems like i should be able to...	[00:15]
benkay	nope nope nope.	[00:15]
benkay	transactions work a certain way. submit a fee, get processed. no fee, roll the dice on transaction processing time.	[00:15]
dexX7	of course	[00:15]
dexX7	you can resend it	[00:15]
snackman	yeah, bets of bitcoin really screwed me over by not even offering an option	[00:15]
snackman	for transaction fee	[00:15]
kakobrekla	Nuggie_: http://bitbet.us/faq/#150 http://bitbet.us/faq/#151 http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-cancel-your-bitbet-bet/	[00:15]
Nuggie_	ahh. so it will be refunded minus a 1% fee?	[00:17]
Nuggie_	assuming my bet doesn't get confirmed in time?	[00:17]
snackman	@kakobrekla what is the lag time between bet satisfaction and bet closing?	[00:17]
Nuggie_	whew. i can live with 1%. i was gonna cry if i lost the whole shebang	[00:18]
Nuggie_	big lesson learned today!	[00:18]
kakobrekla	depends on the mods snackman	[00:18]
Nuggie_	about adding transaction fee	[00:18]
kakobrekla	Nuggie_ if its before bet is closed you get a refund, else not.	[00:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.15500002 = 0.465 BTC [-]	[00:19]
Nuggie_	thanks kakobrekla	[00:19]
snackman	kakobrekla seems like that incentivizes mods to close bet ASAP if they see incoming unconfirmed transactions	[00:19]
kakobrekla	it does	[00:19]
kakobrekla	and it doesnt	[00:20]
kakobrekla	cause they are not paid by that	[00:20]
mike_c	or you could say it disincentivizes people from trying to snipe bets at the end :)	[00:20]
Nuggie_	i'll never try and do that again!	[00:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.155 = 0.775 BTC [-] {2}	[00:20]
snackman	mike_c I don't think it's a fair way to disincentivize that	[00:20]
pascal257	nope	[00:20]
pascal257	I was just afraid because you did not respond to my PM and force closed the main DMC thread	[00:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.0041 = 0.4305 BTC [+]	[00:21]
deadweasel	NPR talking about bitcoin right now	[00:21]
snackman	mike_c a better way would be to have a more steep time weight curve	[00:21]
snackman	deadweasel what're they saying	[00:21]
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mike_c	ehh, i disagree. too steep of a time weight just kills the bet too early (my opinion, i'm not connected to bitbet)	[00:22]
jurov	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3yk5M5nECo&feature=BFa&list=LLbUWZps9V8IRVHdEWx1x6Mw&lf=autoplay	[00:22]
jurov	cant stop raving!	[00:22]
snackman	mike_c it doesn't have to kill the bet too early... it could just go asymptotic as the bet's satisfaction approaches	[00:24]
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blastbob	jurov: you hit the rich biatch mark? :)	[00:24]
jurov	heh	[00:24]
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mike_c	right, but bet satisfaction doesn't always have a fixed date, like in this case.	[00:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.001041 = 0.1041 BTC [+]	[00:26]
snackman	mike_c right, it would take some cleverness to devise the function, but it could be done	[00:27]
mike_c	hah! senator just asked if al gore might have created bitcoin (he was kidding)	[00:27]
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altoz	;; asks 999999999	[00:29]
gribble	There are currently 11734.615 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 662364605.926 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 74.9807 seconds	[00:29]
altoz	;; bids 0	[00:29]
gribble	There are currently 16493198 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 23283124.8207 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 81.8663 seconds	[00:29]
freeroute	when the colored coins will get used for decentralized exchanges, what color will you choose?	[00:30]
snackman	Could anyone explain to me why https://blockchain.info/tx/2af75fb4e50a14bf247575bf426615d01f9d6db4d88dc0668d27c88259f68691 shows my transaction, but http://blockexplorer.com/address/13EW8oUL5mzLiBbYpZouNqjNsFhabiSoeX does not?	[00:30]
bgupta	5,111.00 CNY	[00:30]
bgupta	(838.97 USD)	[00:31]
mike_c	if only.. that is not an easy arbitrage loop.	[00:31]
bgupta	with bitcoin recent price velocity, it's a risky arbitrage loop.	[00:32]
pascal257	snackman: unconfirmed transactions don't necessarily have 100% network propagation	[00:32]
jurov	snackman: and blockexplorer is often behind times	[00:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.0008353 = 4.1765 BTC [-]	[00:32]
bgupta	likely to end up closing the loop at a higher price then sold. might as well just trade somewhere or hold.	[00:33]
mike_c	The core part of the loop should only be ~10 minutes, no? dollar -> btc, instant. btc -> btchina, 10 minutes? btchina -> yuan, instant.	[00:34]
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mike_c	yes yes, the core part being the part that is volatile.	[00:37]
mike_c	yuan -> dollars is slow, but not so volatile	[00:37]
mike_c	;;interval	[00:38]
gribble	546.8354430379746	[00:38]
mike_c	9 minutes of volatility. but it is too hard (afaik) to convert many yuan into dollars.	[00:38]
snackman	jurov pascal257 is blockchain generally accurate with its estimated confirmation time?	[00:38]
jurov	nope	[00:38]
jurov	only to txs with larger fees	[00:39]
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dexX7	http://www.google.com/trends/	[00:47]
ozbot	Google Trends - Hot Searches	[00:47]
bgupta	mike_c: arb would work if btc wasn't raillying 25%/day. arb will catch up when things slow down.	[00:48]
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jurov	$avg	[00:55]
mpexbot	jurov: 571.25	[00:55]
jurov	mpex bot still online	[00:56]
jurov	;;later tell mircea_popescu ermm.. scientific notation? :D	[00:58]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[00:58]
Nuggie_	snackman, the estimated time has been bobbing around for me when i refresh	[00:58]
Nuggie_	was at 34 hours, now 22	[00:58]
mike_c	seriously, the strikes just changed.. two weeks ago?	[00:59]
dexX7	777	[00:59]
mike_c	well, there goes the bet nuggie.	[00:59]
Nuggie_	ugh	[01:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4693 BTC [+]	[01:00]
mike_c	all those jokes about the 666 bitcoin price were good for about 10 minutes :)	[01:00]
Nuggie_	just have to hope it gets confirmed now before its closed	[01:00]
Nuggie_	so i can at least get refunded -1%	[01:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.46939999 BTC [+]	[01:01]
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snackman	Nuggie_ fuckkk	[01:07]
Nuggie_	feeling sick	[01:07]
snackman	Nuggie_ it's bullshit that bets aren't counted as occurring at time of transaction broadcast... that's what hte bitcoin network is abut	[01:07]
deadweasel	yes, learn to read the manual before inserting coin*.	[01:07]
snackman	deadweasel it's a dumb way to set up the website	[01:07]
deadweasel	you're a dummy for not reading the rules. it's clear. i read them, i won lots.	[01:08]
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benkay	Nuggie_: your bet would have been confirmed if you'd sent with a transaction fee.	[01:10]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[01:10]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 770.1, Best ask: 775.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.90000, Last trade: 770.1, 24 hour volume: 70867.39857273, 24 hour low: 519.01001, 24 hour high: 779.54, 24 hour vwap: 623.74808	[01:10]
ThickAsThieves	785	[01:10]
dub	the lesson here, that eveyone else learned some time ago is don't use betsofbitcoin	[01:10]
mike_c	what an odd statement: transactions should be considered valid on broadcast, not confirmation?	[01:11]
Nuggie_	is there a way to include transaction fees from blockchain?	[01:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 211 @ 0.0018915 = 0.3991 BTC [-]	[01:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.004 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[01:11]
benkay	and perhaps the faq would benefit from a clarifying statement about when transactions are recognized as having bet.	[01:11]
dub	its pretty fucking standard to wait for the network to confirm shit	[01:11]
deadweasel	mike_c: lol!	[01:11]
benkay	but also see dub's point.	[01:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 10000 @ 0.00013 = 1.3 BTC [-] {2}	[01:12]
dub	Nuggie_: if you mean blockchain.info dont use that either (bu the answer is yes)	[01:12]
snackman	mike_c why is that an odd statement	[01:13]
mike_c	because that's not "what the bitcoin network is about"	[01:13]
mike_c	transactions are not valid until confirmation. preferably a few.	[01:13]
snackman	mike_c it is a distributed way to track timestmaps	[01:13]
ThickAsThieves	what's this bitcoin thing?	[01:14]
snackman	mike_c if the transaction was broadcast at a certain time and later confirmed, the broadcast time stands as accurate	[01:14]
mike_c	good thing you didn't run satoshi dice :)	[01:14]
snackman	mike_c I'd prefer if you responded intelligently rather than with insults. What's with your snark factor?	[01:15]
dub	guys you're forgetting that snackman lost his pocket money on this, its srs now	[01:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03010002 = 0.1204 BTC [-]	[01:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.004 = 0.24 BTC [-]	[01:16]
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snackman	dub it is serious, imo it's unconscionable that I'd lose 10 BTC in this fashion	[01:16]
deadweasel	it is unconscionable, but not for you, because you did it.	[01:16]
benkay	bbet divs are going to be great this month	[01:17]
pascal257	I'm not familiar with bitbet but I guess once a bet is decided the winnings are distributed	[01:17]
pascal257	any btc not confirmed by then lost	[01:17]
pascal257	atleast regarding the bet	[01:18]
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dub	snackman: its unfortunate for you yes, perhaps you should try to understand what youa re dealing with next time	[01:20]
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snackman	dub That's an unnecessarily moralistic approach, and furthermore a hallmark of self-affected geeks' fear/loathing of the mainstream, which I think is misplaced in this instance	[01:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12500 @ 0.0008353 = 10.4413 BTC [-]	[01:21]
mike_c	snackman: here it is without snark. say your bet lost. all you would have to do is send a different transaction with a fee that would get confirmed first and you didn't lose anything.	[01:21]
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snackman	bitbets, if it would like to be a great service, should make itself easy to understand and operate, and not have stupid rules like this one	[01:21]
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snackman	mike_c I don't understand	[01:22]
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KableKiB	bitbet.us/bet/591/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-750-usd/	[01:23]
KableKiB	time to close? :D	[01:23]
dub	is there a $900 one cause thats gonna get hit to	[01:23]
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dub	china is a US$896	[01:23]
dub	at*	[01:23]
mike_c	900 btc until china hits 1k	[01:23]
KableKiB	bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/	[01:23]
snackman	mike_c that doesn't make sense - if the bet lost then it lost and it's gone, no different transaction will change that	[01:23]
KableKiB	theres 1k	[01:24]
snackman	mike_c the blockchain still won't allow doublespending...	[01:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.42030324 = 7.9858 BTC [-] {10}	[01:24]
dub	clearly you understand this better than anyone, I guess you flushed your money to prove a point	[01:25]
mike_c	sorry snack, free lesson is over.	[01:25]
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dub	what is bbet policy on late bets, do they go back to the sender?	[01:26]
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KableKiB	refunded with 1% fee afaik	[01:26]
kakobrekla	http://bitbet.us/faq/#151	[01:26]
ozbot	FAQ BitBet	[01:26]
dub	except he sent form betsofbitcoin right? so he wont get shit	[01:26]
dub	and those asshats just got a nice bonus	[01:27]
snackman	dub mike_c I really don't understand why you guys are kicking me hwen I'm down 5k	[01:27]
kakobrekla	they are refunded to outgoing address that you specify when making the bet	[01:27]
dub	thanks Darwin, its been hilarious	[01:27]
dub	oh, lame	[01:27]
kakobrekla	same address as it would be for winnings	[01:28]
snackman	dub mike_c how about a little empathy?	[01:28]
kakobrekla	yes very lame.	[01:28]
freeroute	so what does everyone think about active mining?	[01:28]
freeroute	will that be the next knc?	[01:28]
dub	ken is plainly retarded	[01:28]
kakobrekla	yeah dub show some compassion!	[01:28]
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freeroute	dub: how come?	[01:29]
kakobrekla	how can you be like that?	[01:29]
kakobrekla	its like almost honest mistake or something.	[01:29]
dub	-assets, all compassion all the time	[01:29]
dub	freeroute: lurk moar, or read anything he writes or something	[01:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.004 = 0.204 BTC [-]	[01:30]
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freeroute	dub: I did. I'm following him on BTCtalk. He isn't much of a communicator, but if that deal with eASIC goes through, it could mean a lot in terms of shares AFAIK.	[01:31]
BingoBoingo	freeroute: Another catch about Ken is WTF is eASIC?	[01:32]
dub	freeroute: my Internet Care Quota is blown for the day sorry	[01:32]
kakobrekla	ilold	[01:32]
KableKiB	are there bitbet mods here?	[01:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2256 @ 0.0018915 = 4.2672 BTC [-]	[01:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.41111 = 5.3444 BTC [-] {2}	[01:32]
dub	I've been caring my heart out for snackman all morning	[01:32]
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kakobrekla	whats up KableKiB	[01:32]
kakobrekla	btw -assets i tell you, today is a record day in many aspects.	[01:33]
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dub	hao so?	[01:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.004 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}	[01:33]
kakobrekla	lots of things peaking	[01:33]
kakobrekla	recordly	[01:33]
kakobrekla	over 2 years	[01:33]
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freeroute	BingoBoingo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EASIC - http://www.crunchbase.com/company/easic	[01:34]
KableKiB	hey kakobrekla	[01:35]
KableKiB	This just needs to be closed bitbet.us/bet/591/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-750-usd/	[01:35]
dub	BTCUSD, BTCCNY, IRC butthurt.. wat else?	[01:35]
benkay	;;ticker	[01:35]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 769.0, Best ask: 770.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 770.0, 24 hour volume: 71288.54638842, 24 hour low: 519.01001, 24 hour high: 788.0, 24 hour vwap: 628.29454	[01:35]
freeroute	dub: don't worry, I'll grant you the permission to explain it to me another day :p	[01:35]
kakobrekla	KableKiB it will be closed when people that do that come online.	[01:36]
KableKiB	oh i thought you were a bitbet mod	[01:36]
kakobrekla	no, i just coded it, run it and own it.	[01:36]
KableKiB	oh well thats really cool	[01:37]
KableKiB	thanks, i have a lot of fun there	[01:37]
dub	china is >900	[01:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4099 @ 0.00083613 = 3.4273 BTC [+]	[01:37]
kakobrekla	im glad to hear that KableKiB.	[01:37]
BingoBoingo	freeroute: I see a lot of hype, but eASIC doesn't even have fabs. ActiveMining also doesn't have anything hashing after how long?	[01:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 275 @ 0.00390101 = 1.0728 BTC [-]	[01:38]
KableKiB	so why are people thinking mtgox might fail?	[01:39]
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freeroute	BingoBoingo: they do, but only 2TH atm, see ActM public addy - https://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=1DJpsvnM7xTnQbWEhLYyCyfxQyxwupEzCa	[01:40]
freeroute	also, does it really matter if a company has fabs? Why would a fabless company receive so much funding from a renowned HDD company then?	[01:41]
BingoBoingo	freeroute: Surely that can't be from their l33t chips? I mean who only orders 2TH can needs to collect money for shares?	[01:41]
freeroute	nope, it wasn't. It was only from the klondikes IIRC.	[01:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]	[01:45]
freeroute	feel free to poke more holes, I'd rather like an opinion from people who have a different view than mine.	[01:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.43 = 1.29 BTC [+]	[01:46]
pankkake	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297530.msg3456184#msg3456184	[01:48]
ozbot	[Active Mining] The UNofficial Active Mining Discussion Thread [UNmoderated]	[01:48]
pankkake	active mining is dead, but that was known months ago. nothing else to say	[01:49]
pankkake	you got slaughtered	[01:49]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.4111111 = 4.1111 BTC [-]	[01:50]
freeroute	heh	[01:53]
freeroute	basically the same concerns there were a month ago	[01:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 294 @ 0.00374932 = 1.1023 BTC [-] {3}	[01:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00183921 = 0.1839 BTC [-] {3}	[01:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.41110132 = 10.2775 BTC [-] {3}	[01:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 28 @ 0.4107107 = 11.4999 BTC [-] {6}	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.18357999 BTC [+]	[01:59]
BingoBoingo	;;goxlag	[01:59]
gribble	MtGox lag is 253.207094 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.507424181328 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mercury (0.39 AU).	[01:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 151 @ 0.00104 = 0.157 BTC [-] {3}	[02:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4100001 = 0.82 BTC [-]	[02:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 178 @ 0.0017637 = 0.3139 BTC [-] {3}	[02:02]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 82 @ 0.001762 = 0.1445 BTC [-] {2}	[02:03]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[02:05]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 785.00001, Best ask: 785.50007, Bid-ask spread: 0.50006, Last trade: 785.50007, 24 hour volume: 71433.78792828, 24 hour low: 522.0, 24 hour high: 788.0, 24 hour vwap: 631.0448	[02:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 202 @ 0.00370107 = 0.7476 BTC [-] {6}	[02:06]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 178 @ 0.00059 = 0.105 BTC [+]	[02:10]
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kakobrekla	see dub, record volume on the bbet	[02:12]
Bugpowder	lol	[02:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.40726931 = 6.109 BTC [-] {6}	[02:13]
TomServo	Am I seeing this right? Approaching 1K USD equivalent in China?	[02:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 29 @ 0.00361655 = 0.1049 BTC [-] {2}	[02:15]
Kleeck	Yes.	[02:15]
Kleeck	That's right TomServo	[02:15]
TomServo	Insane.	[02:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.3761001 = 2.2566 BTC [-]	[02:19]
TomServo	Seems like price indications are just fucked right now.	[02:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 118 @ 0.001762 = 0.2079 BTC [-]	[02:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 4000 @ 0.001755 = 7.02 BTC [-] {2}	[02:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.39999999 = 1.2 BTC [+] {2}	[02:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53056 @ 0.00083826 = 44.4747 BTC [+] {10}	[02:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1943 @ 0.0010365 = 2.0139 BTC [-] {10}	[02:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 125 @ 0.00102009 = 0.1275 BTC [-] {3}	[02:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00333 = 0.2997 BTC [-] {2}	[02:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.12000006 BTC [-]	[02:35]
bgupta	1043.98 US Dollar (CNY)	[02:36]
Kleeck	Yerp.	[02:36]
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bgupta	http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/18/investing/bitcoin-china/	[02:38]
ozbot	Why China wants to dominate Bitcoin - Nov. 18, 2013	[02:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39999999 BTC [+]	[02:41]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[02:42]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[02:42]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 790.0, Best ask: 799.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 800.0, 24 hour volume: 72424.54654123, 24 hour low: 522.0, 24 hour high: 792.0, 24 hour vwap: 634.2096	[02:42]
nubbins`	;;tslb	[02:42]
gribble	Time since last block: 22 minutes and 56 seconds	[02:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4684 @ 0.00084 = 3.9346 BTC [+]	[02:42]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00083369 = 14.4228 BTC [-] {3}	[02:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 103 @ 0.00102829 = 0.1059 BTC [-] {2}	[02:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.376 = 1.128 BTC [-] {2}	[02:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 60 @ 0.03879796 = 2.3279 BTC [+] {9}	[02:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 34 @ 0.06008823 = 2.043 BTC [+] {8}	[02:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.10925923 = 0.7648 BTC [-] {6}	[02:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00083273 = 5.4127 BTC [-] {2}	[02:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 18 @ 0.07956666 = 1.4322 BTC [-] {5}	[02:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C800T] 15 @ 0.31583006 = 4.7375 BTC	[02:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 3 @ 0.1358 = 0.4074 BTC [+]	[02:56]
Rawted	Life is good	[02:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 10 @ 0.11 = 1.1 BTC [-]	[02:57]
jurov	Stan Stalnaker is Founding Director of Hub Culture and the Ven, an asset-backed Internet reserve currency that along with Bitcoin and Ripple, is leading the digital asset market.	[02:57]
jurov	sometimes the most lulzy bit is in the end (that cnn article)	[02:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-]	[03:00]
nubbins`	i swear to fuck i'll tear the holograms off all these coins soon	[03:00]
Kleeck	haha	[03:01]
jurov	be sure to put it to youtube	[03:01]
Rawted	lol nubbins	[03:01]
Kleeck	You guys see this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=335154.0	[03:02]
Kleeck	Anyone have insight into CoinTerra's situation?	[03:02]
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nubbins`	jurov: i did that already with one :)	[03:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 26 @ 0.03283877 = 0.8538 BTC [-] {7}	[03:03]
nubbins`	it's thrilling	[03:03]
nubbins`	but only for a moment	[03:03]
jurov	so you crave more	[03:03]
nubbins`	well, not so much as i crave financial independence	[03:03]
nubbins`	know what i mean?	[03:03]
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jurov	already independent for a year, not worth it	[03:05]
jurov	one doesnt know what to do without a boss	[03:06]
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jurov	and unemployed people are viewed with suspicion, too	[03:06]
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nubbins`	nah, i'd still print	[03:07]
jurov	;)	[03:07]
nubbins`	and everyone in this neighbourhood is viewed with suspicion :D	[03:07]
nubbins`	i'd love to have a proper studio with a storefront	[03:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SMG] 9900 @ 0.00010041 = 0.9941 BTC [-] {24}	[03:08]
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dexX7	the block size limit is 1 mb, right? i'm a bit confussed because someone claims the limit is reached and pools should increase it.. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338452.0	[03:10]
dexX7	and then i took a look at http://blockexplorer.com/ and it appears that there is a cap of 250 kb and 500 kb?	[03:11]
dexX7	which actually implies that bitcoin is right now at it's soft limit? x_x	[03:11]
pankkake	;;ticker	[03:12]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 900.0, Best ask: 900.57013, Bid-ask spread: 0.57013, Last trade: 900.0, 24 hour volume: 76312.78678810, 24 hour low: 523.0, 24 hour high: 900.57013, 24 hour vwap: 646.81154	[03:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 2932 @ 0.001021 = 2.9936 BTC [-] {3}	[03:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.371 BTC [-]	[03:14]
pankkake	block limit is 1 MB but many pools still have it at 250 KB	[03:14]
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pankkake	and/or policy for inclusion changes after the first 250 KB	[03:15]
dexX7	ah	[03:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37000001 BTC [-]	[03:18]
pankkake	oh it's back to 800	[03:18]
pankkake	ok bitcoin I'm going to sleep	[03:18]
kakobrekla	only 800? scam.	[03:19]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 225 @ 0.001021 = 0.2297 BTC [-] {2}	[03:21]
BingoBoingo	BTC China doesn't seem to be dropping...	[03:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.350201 BTC [-]	[03:24]
pankkake	到月球	[03:24]
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nubbins`	last 2 trades on virtex: 1.5 @ 800 and 3.92 @ 700	[03:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 296 @ 0.03089863 = 9.146 BTC [-] {7}	[03:26]
nubbins`	lel	[03:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.35001514 = 4.9002 BTC [-] {7}	[03:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00359999 = 0.3636 BTC [+] {3}	[03:28]
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mike_c	bubble popped :) 900 -> 700 in 2 minutes	[03:31]
kakobrekla	i hope it goes lower	[03:31]
bgupta	if we were in a bubble, it's not popped yet.	[03:31]
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kakobrekla	and im not short or anything.	[03:31]
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benkay	;;goxlag	[03:32]
gribble	MtGox lag is 2110783.68141 seconds. During this time, light travels 4229.98686404 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to heliopause (out of the solar system!) (100 AU).	[03:32]
mike_c	i think the chinese are running this show. we're going where they take us.	[03:32]
kakobrekla	china will grow larger	[03:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.35 = 2.1 BTC [-]	[03:34]
nubbins`	^	[03:34]
nubbins`	just noticed AM1 price	[03:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]	[03:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.03 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[03:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00315 = 0.104 BTC [-]	[03:37]
kakobrekla	;;ticker	[03:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 17 @ 0.03 = 0.51 BTC [-]	[03:38]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 600.0, Best ask: 640.0, Bid-ask spread: 40.00000, Last trade: 640.0, 24 hour volume: 82005.62655160, 24 hour low: 531.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 658.5528	[03:38]
kakobrekla	900->600	[03:38]
kakobrekla	like the round numbers.	[03:39]
jurov	796	[03:39]
assbot	123!	[03:39]
jurov	$avg	[03:39]
mpexbot	jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.	[03:39]
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jurov	ha	[03:39]
pankkake	$avg	[03:40]
mpexbot	pankkake: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.	[03:40]
pankkake	if it's using bitcoincharts that's understandable	[03:40]
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jurov	why? bitcoincharts has no problems	[03:40]
pankkake	works half the time for me	[03:41]
nubbins`	ah, today is a funny day	[03:43]
jurov	;;bc,convert eur	[03:45]
gribble	1 BTC = 625.0 USD = 462.25 eur	[03:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.06 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[03:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 107 @ 0.00315 = 0.3371 BTC [-] {2}	[03:45]
jurov	ha. i sold one for 485.	[03:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.34002 = 1.7001 BTC [-] {3}	[03:47]
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dub	I think that api is behind	[03:51]
dub	gox is at 760ish	[03:51]
dub	and now 800	[03:52]
dub	and now 700	[03:52]
dub	etc	[03:52]
dub	gox is at gox	[03:53]
ThickAsThieves	cheap coins!	[03:53]
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dub	word	[03:53]
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bgupta	and btcchina seems to be under ddos again? Deja vu?	[03:53]
BingoBoingo	bgupta: Probably just the last struggles of English speakers to try to drive the coins.	[03:54]
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dub	seems to be some buying on there still	[03:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00368 = 0.1472 BTC [+] {2}	[03:57]
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gribble	Error: "tickler" is not a valid command.	[03:57]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 689.03, Best ask: 700.0, Bid-ask spread: 10.97000, Last trade: 700.0, 24 hour volume: 89761.93958660, 24 hour low: 531.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 662.36674	[03:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.39799999 = 0.796 BTC [+]	[03:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 150 @ 0.00370432 = 0.5556 BTC [+] {2}	[03:59]
bgupta	goxlag back to 0... strom front passed. .. wonder how many coins were shaken loose?	[04:03]
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Guest73564	;;ticker	[04:05]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 727.0, Best ask: 728.99999, Bid-ask spread: 1.99999, Last trade: 729.0, 24 hour volume: 90803.09857291, 24 hour low: 531.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 663.54756	[04:06]
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bgupta	people are just playin now.	[04:11]
kakobrekla	took long enough to pop	[04:11]
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bgupta	still well above the 24 hour x-echange moving average.. won't say popped until it drops below.	[04:12]
dub	china are still >900US	[04:14]
dub	$60mn volume on gox alone	[04:14]
dub	I'd say there is more up	[04:14]
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kakobrekla	china gives a negative fuck	[04:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.39033332 = 1.171 BTC [-] {2}	[04:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 1757 @ 0.000475 = 0.8346 BTC [-]	[04:16]
dub	you stoopid roundeyes	[04:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.39799999 = 1.592 BTC [+] {2}	[04:17]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 717.0, Best ask: 719.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 720.0, 24 hour volume: 92044.38572966, 24 hour low: 531.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 665.40648	[04:17]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.36593333 = 2.1956 BTC [-] {3}	[04:20]
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benkay	mircea_popescu: https://assmkedzgorodn7o.onion.lu/info	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	whassat ?	[04:25]
benkay	badbets incarnate.	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	jurov no, i'll just push it down just to be an asshole.	[04:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.13 = 1.3 BTC [+]	[04:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3510001 BTC [-]	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	i like people who learned about bitcoin once it passed 500 or w/e telling what the network is all about	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	quite the log we have hiar.	[04:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.351 BTC [-]	[04:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.358 = 1.79 BTC [+] {3}	[04:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37 BTC [+]	[04:37]
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dub	yus, the butt pain feel from him was palpable	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	consumers. bitcoin will bust a large number of butts before people get used to how things work irl.	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	basic stuff like "don't blow your entire wad on the first thing you fall upon without having tried to figure it out first"	[04:41]
benkay	cling terrified to your coins	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	anyway, on the positive side, the plaintive story of the guy out however many bitcoins over not including tx fees will perhaps inspire all the noobs to set their tx fee > 0 like... NOW	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	shit i've been yakking about since i dunno, a year ago or w/e.	[04:43]
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bgupta	back to 1044.07 US Dollar on btcchina...	[04:44]
bgupta	(6360 cny)	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	them overexcited chinese folk.	[04:44]
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bgupta	popular stereotype is that chan chinese are hoarders. Recent real estate prices indicate they are speculators as well. /me wonders if any good can come of this perfect storm.	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	truth is things are overheating, but we still have some leeway.	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	we see.	[04:48]
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dub	the property boom was simply that they now had a place to put money	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[04:48]
dub	with less risk to it than say a bank	[04:48]
dub	however because they are chinese they build property which wont last more than 15 years	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is perhaps the best asset anyone can own.	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	the chinese have the working brains to figure this out on their own tho	[04:49]
dub	so they're still fucked	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	dub well, it also costs 15k per acre to build	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	so it's not that ad	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	bad*	[04:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.399575 = 2.3975 BTC [+] {3}	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	so cointerra finally imploded ?	[04:52]
bgupta	mircea_popescu: what did I miss? (re: cointerra)	[04:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 62 @ 0.00389499 = 0.2415 BTC [+]	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	apparently they changed their "contract" (what peas-for-brains regard unsigned matter as "contracts" is beyond me)	[04:56]
mircea_popescu	from 90 day warranty to 30 day warranty	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	expendable to 60 days for a $3500 payment	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	and conditional upon nondelivery (you have to host "your' miner with them)	[04:57]
kakobrekla	im having like the worst week ever. now my blockchain crashed.	[04:57]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla what's so bad about it ?	[04:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16200 @ 0.00084 = 13.608 BTC [+]	[04:58]
kakobrekla	needs resync	[04:58]
mircea_popescu	your week i mean	[04:58]
kakobrekla	i was just saving esxi the other day	[04:58]
kakobrekla	now also this.	[04:59]
kakobrekla	cmon solar flare, come and wipe all my btc.	[04:59]
mircea_popescu	pankkake: looks like $600 isn't happening today << sweet.	[04:59]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla store your btc on mpex, that way once the solar flare wipes all my btc you can milk all over me.	[04:59]
kakobrekla	for pleasure or will it do any good? :)	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	um... i could twerk for you while you do it ?	[05:01]
kakobrekla	no further discussion was made on the subject.	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	lol	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	"let us never speak of this milk again"	[05:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [+] {2}	[05:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 996 @ 0.00333298 = 3.3196 BTC [+] {2}	[05:05]
bgupta	so anyone catch the hearings? Jeremy Allaire came off as a total tool, was basically like "yeah it's important that we hold innovation in financial services to a higher standard, so it's good thing that entrepreneurs have to go register with all 50 states to get licensed as MSBs to operate in the US. My company Circle (Jerk) is going through it. It's really good that it's very expensive, since it limits it to	[05:05]
bgupta	moneyed elite (like me)."	[05:05]
benkay	capital barriers are important.	[05:05]
benkay	it's how the rich keep everyone else out of the game.	[05:05]
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mircea_popescu	bgupta the problem of course is that nobody cares what he thinks.	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	is he worth half a billion ?	[05:06]
thestringpuller	;;market buy 15000	[05:08]
gribble	This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 13590.822 bitcoins, for a total of 744211999.8677 USD and take the price to 1000000000.0000. \| Data vintage: 168.3358 seconds	[05:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [+]	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	he's the fuckwit that blessed the world with the suck that is macromedia. /me bristles	[05:08]
bgupta	donnu, he sold his company to Google tfor 500-700 million 4 years ago.. don't know what his take was. ;)	[05:08]
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mircea_popescu	bgupta guess ?	[05:08]
TomServo	I just finished watch... I thought Ernie was the most cogent of the entire panel	[05:09]
bgupta	prolly had a decent stake since he had his coldfusion money.. I'd guess 300 mill?	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	bgupta and do you mean brightcove ? when was that sold ?!	[05:09]
thestringpuller	lololol macromedia didn't they go under before adobe bought their shit?	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	or do you mean the sale to gcp ?	[05:09]
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thestringpuller	anyone remember webvan!?!?	[05:09]
bloctoc	someone should take the transcript of the hearing and replace the ubiquitous phrase "child porn" with "OH MY GOD WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!!"	[05:09]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller yes but they kept him on.	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	bloctoc someone should write the transcript and s/bitcoin/obamacare/	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	just for lulz.	[05:10]
thestringpuller	LOLOLOLOL	[05:11]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[05:11]
gribble	621.89	[05:11]
bgupta	"I understand the words, but not the sentences."	[05:13]
bgupta	(my takaway from the hearings)	[05:14]
mircea_popescu	bgupta afaik the allaire guy sold to general catalyst in 2004, and is running brightcove since a decade ago, to no particular results.	[05:15]
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mircea_popescu	o nm.	[05:15]
mircea_popescu	so appealing to the more knowledgeabe, dub like networking types : anyone seen a traceroute like this before http://dpaste.com/1472295/ ?	[05:16]
dub	looks normalish	[05:18]
mircea_popescu	why the fuck does it trace to the same machine from itself ?	[05:18]
TomServo	the dup hop?	[05:18]
dub	hop 5/6 a bit funny but not impossible	[05:18]
dub	what do you mean?	[05:19]
dub	(mp)	[05:19]
mircea_popescu	well also the geographical distance between 213.154/16 and 209.85/16 is about 300 miles.	[05:19]
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mircea_popescu	8ms ? srsly ?	[05:19]
dub	how are you determining this	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	cause i know what gear is in practice allocated those ips	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	is this some shoddy mitm ?	[05:20]
dub	did you sight the interface or are you relying on geoip/rdns	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	no i actually know where the gear is that has that ip.	[05:20]
dub	it could be, yeah	[05:21]
bgupta	https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2033442	[05:21]
ozbot	tracert show same hop twice - 2033442 - Cisco Technical Support Forums	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	im so fucking paranoid by now...	[05:21]
dub	BGP hijack with TTL fudging	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	bgupta ok but that's 10.0etc. that i can grok	[05:21]
dub	not decrementing TTL is a standard technique inside a network and is used to hide bgp jacking	[05:23]
dub	Alex Pilosov presented on this at NANOG in '09 or '10	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[05:23]
dub	I think it was pilo I might have been high	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	so basically my thinking is that i got both the legit and the spoofed packet from 213.154.128.21	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	and only the spoofed rest of the chain	[05:24]
dub	or your provider just routes in an out of that node and hides the middle bit? or other scenarios	[05:25]
dub	or your traceroute fucked up	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	do they fuck up ?	[05:25]
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dub	yes	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	hm	[05:26]
dub	icmp is exception traffic, punted to teh control plane in most cases, which will happily throw it away/forget about/be lazy about by design	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	yeah but give random responses ?	[05:27]
dub	the tool may be interpreting what it sees wrong	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	well i don't have the energy to dig into this all the way to having traceroute read.	[05:28]
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bgupta	http://linux.die.net/man/1/tcptraceroute sometimes shows something else.	[05:28]
ozbot	tcptraceroute(1) - Linux man page	[05:28]
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dub	afaik (and its been a while since i cared) the only way to catch route jacking shenanigens is signup to a service like bgpmon	[05:29]
dub	you might catch something historical in RIPE's bgplay	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	it's of marginal interest to me too by design	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	still it jarred	[05:30]
dub	its good to be aware that this shit is not hard	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	bgupta yeah system didn't have either that or tracepath	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	.butt	[05:33]
thestringpuller	;;calc 10000 * 0.0002	[05:33]
gribble	2	[05:33]
thestringpuller	;;calc 5000 * 0.0001	[05:34]
gribble	0.5	[05:34]
thestringpuller	lol	[05:34]
thestringpuller	i'm bad at math	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha labcoin is still trading ?!	[05:36]
dub	http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/08/revealed-the-in/	[05:37]
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ozbot	Revealed: The Internet's Biggest Security Hole \| Threat Level \| Wired.com	[05:37]
dub	tkap and pilo	[05:37]
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asciilifeform	nah, 'biggest' would be the idiot ssl master keys.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	no because that's done by tjhe good guys	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	it's not the same if your daddy rapes you or some filthy stranger does.	[05:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9728 @ 0.00083791 = 8.1512 BTC [-] {2}	[05:38]
dub	might have been difcon in '08 :)	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves:	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	"In one example, the Army lost track of roughly $5.8 billion worth of supplies between 2003 and 2011."	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	dudes, that's how bitcoin came to be	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	the army lost it cca 2008	[05:40]
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dub	whats that cool movie with YARRqueen phoenix	[05:42]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[05:42]
dub	about army supply dudes ganking stuff	[05:42]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 780.10001, Best ask: 783.985, Bid-ask spread: 3.88499, Last trade: 780.10502, 24 hour volume: 93795.01536371, 24 hour low: 531.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 676.41418	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	$avg	[05:42]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: 622.45	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	oddly stationary.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	;;goxlag	[05:42]
gribble	MtGox lag is 1.330779 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00266686621586 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Earth to Moon (0.00257 AU).	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[05:43]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 783.00001, Best ask: 783.00007, Bid-ask spread: 0.00006, Last trade: 783.99, 24 hour volume: 93784.25897408, 24 hour low: 531.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 676.43479	[05:43]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: a shipping container with some 10 billion in cash went missing in Iraq at somet point in 2009	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	"missing"	[05:43]
thestringpuller	:D	[05:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+]	[05:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 9 @ 0.06 = 0.54 BTC [+]	[05:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.029 = 0.145 BTC [+]	[05:45]
dub	how do you even sell 'we need 10bn in cash for iraq'	[05:49]
dub	locals are going to take $10 bribes	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo ha, i lolled at the blakc market thing	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	dub "our saudi friends"	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla pankkake & other miniepeen ppl and general betlosers : http://bitbet.us/stats/1K4FswVNus5xJZJ6TYqAzWSy3tXBBFdGnM/	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	read it and wheep	[05:51]
kakobrekla	i knew that before you knew i knew.	[05:52]
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calvin_klein	nevertheless.	[05:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 34 @ 0.05999999 = 2.04 BTC [-] {2}	[05:56]
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mircea_popescu	holy shit i read the entire log	[05:59]
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mike_c	feel smarter?	[06:00]
mircea_popescu	i am well entertained.	[06:00]
mircea_popescu	considering i spent the entire day being entertained in the first place... it's not so bad.	[06:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.0008353 = 8.0189 BTC [-] {2}	[06:08]
mike_c	today was a good day to grab a bag of popcorn and watch the ticker.	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	so cardano rng board was successfully populated, there's like oscilloscope illuminated randomness and general entropy pouring out of it. i'll be making a post with pics and whatnot once the lot of you stop hawking over the exchange.	[06:09]
mike_c	i keep thinking.. the rng on that thing should be saleable in itself.	[06:10]
mike_c	like, plug me into a computer and get an actually good stream of random numbers.	[06:10]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c you will probably love the product update :D	[06:11]
mike_c	looking forward to it.	[06:11]
kakobrekla	asciilifeform did hint in that direction	[06:11]
kakobrekla	its in teh logs	[06:11]
mircea_popescu	hm... no way the strikes changed two weeks ago.	[06:12]
mircea_popescu	Nov 08 13:12:53 or how scandalously excessive a max of 320 was back in april ?	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	ten days. for the love of sparrows already.	[06:13]
mike_c	10 days. wow.	[06:13]
mike_c	can't find ascii's hint, guess i'll have to wait for the update.	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	benkay:	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	and perhaps the faq would benefit from a clarifying statement about when transactions are recognized as having bet. << afaik one confirm is good enough to put you on the rooster.	[06:19]
kakobrekla	umm if this is bout bbet, it says it will show up after 1 confirm when you request the deposit address	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[06:21]
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mike_c	what is this, a math test? http://bitbet.us/bet/608/super-bowl-coin-toss-will-be-heads/	[06:23]
mircea_popescu	gotta bet on something.	[06:23]
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mircea_popescu	aww lord, geek's fear of mainstream ? why did this guy leave	[06:25]
mircea_popescu	i miss out on all the fun	[06:25]
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kakobrekla	ha i got away with a rescan. happiness restored.	[06:27]
mircea_popescu	wd	[06:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 2 @ 0.05999 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[06:31]
mircea_popescu	i'm fucking affraid to go to sleep	[06:35]
mike_c	upon waking, it will either be at 100 or 2000	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	nono.	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	three digits is one thing. four is iffy.	[06:36]
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mircea_popescu	anyway. don't break anything darlings, remember, we want to fuck this babe for many years to come rather than bukakke her to death today.	[06:40]
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mircea_popescu	$avg	[11:52]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: 654.71	[11:52]
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mircea_popescu	benkay dood seriously, every time you make a bet, the page with the qr code tells you "Your bet will appear in the confirmed bets list shortly after 1st confirmation."	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	i just checked	[12:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.029 = 0.116 BTC [+]	[12:21]
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jurov	morning	[12:36]
jurov	mircea_popescu: withdrawals pls	[12:36]
mircea_popescu	yee	[12:36]
mircea_popescu	i was just doing that.	[12:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 157 @ 0.00379843 = 0.5964 BTC [+] {3}	[12:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 629 @ 0.00407827 = 2.5652 BTC [+] {6}	[12:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 6 @ 0.05999 = 0.3599 BTC [-]	[12:43]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/608/super-bowl-coin-toss-will-be-heads/ if anyone feels lucky...	[12:45]
ozbot	BitBet - Super Bowl coin toss will be "heads"	[12:45]
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jurov	nah, the coin will vanish in midair	[12:56]
jurov	cuz terrorists	[12:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 15 @ 0.06 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[12:58]
pascal257	[WTS] 3537 ADDICTION direct shares - Message me with your offer	[13:03]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0041666 = 0.1042 BTC [+] {2}	[13:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.45703327 = 2.7422 BTC [+] {5}	[13:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.46975 = 0.9395 BTC [+] {2}	[13:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00418634 = 0.2889 BTC [+] {3}	[13:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [+]	[13:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]	[13:26]
mircea_popescu	pascal257 what's that even ?	[13:35]
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bitesak	;;ticker	[13:44]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 644.0, Best ask: 645.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 643.90001, 24 hour volume: 95580.74042662, 24 hour low: 577.0, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 711.59939	[13:44]
bitesak	;;asks 1000	[13:44]
gribble	There are currently 12084.285 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 10304298.8973 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 39.3893 seconds	[13:44]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/embed/42JPg3y85Ak	[13:58]
ozbot	Animaniacs - Woodstock Slappy - YouTube	[13:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00424 = 0.2078 BTC [+]	[14:05]
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random_cat	what was the premium on the 800 cals?	[14:14]
random_cat	+l	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	0.31583006	[14:14]
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random_cat	hefty	[14:15]
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mircea_popescu	yeah, top of the market too	[14:16]
random_cat	oh... well.. cheaper than outright, then	[14:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 7 @ 0.06 = 0.42 BTC [+]	[14:21]
random_cat	always good to leverage your pain :D	[14:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 165 @ 0.0017749 = 0.2929 BTC [-] {3}	[14:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25462 @ 0.00084004 = 21.3891 BTC [+] {3}	[14:24]
ThickAsThieves	mpoe price basically ignores all market conditions	[14:27]
ThickAsThieves	that can't last	[14:27]
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random_cat	we don't need no stinkin markets	[14:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12428 @ 0.00083891 = 10.426 BTC [-] {2}	[14:29]
bitesak	what market conditions are you referring to for example?	[14:29]
ThickAsThieves	BTC/fiat going up 400%	[14:30]
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ThickAsThieves	crash!	[14:36]
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bitesak	in my experience it has changed. in spring time, it was easy to buy call options at 0.05 for the current month typically from 10 to 100$, currently it flattens out at roughly 5x times that price around 0.27. it has become more cautious it seems	[14:36]
bitesak	;;ticker	[14:36]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 560.0, Best ask: 580.0, Bid-ask spread: 20.00000, Last trade: 580.0, 24 hour volume: 101745.37572106, 24 hour low: 567.2, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 707.31467	[14:36]
ThickAsThieves	ah, i am referring to the stock price	[14:37]
ThickAsThieves	not the options	[14:37]
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bitesak	right... I thought it was a bit high indeed but who knows	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves seems to work more like the reserve currency of bitcoin than any actual stock.	[14:42]
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mircea_popescu	at any rate it scales with the macroeconomical conditions and market needs like a fed note rather than with the underlying like a stock would.	[14:43]
ThickAsThieves	meanwhile all these people are so excited about bitcoins	[14:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.48893333 = 1.4668 BTC [+] {2}	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	when they could be holding S.MPOEs	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	currency of the future	[14:44]
ThickAsThieves	it even gets you Eve stuff	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	who, the people on inputs.io or the people generally ?	[14:45]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	anyway, a lot of new accounts so far this month	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is changing. demographically i mean.	[14:46]
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ThickAsThieves	that's good	[14:47]
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mircea_popescu	yeah actually it is	[14:47]
Azelphur	whelp, my bitcoin holdings just went down by $50,000, time to get breakfast.	[14:52]
Azelphur	xD	[14:52]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	tip the waitress that 50k	[14:54]
bitesak	!	[14:54]
ThickAsThieves	i'm just happy to see some correction	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	needed a breather	[14:55]
ThickAsThieves	day trading can make thousands just trading 10btc back and forth	[14:58]
ThickAsThieves	on the lolatility	[14:58]
mircea_popescu	ya. or lose it.	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	recall that guy that sold his wad at 150 because bitcoin is doomed ?	[14:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.489 BTC [+]	[14:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [XBOND] [PAID] 0.55486000 BTC to 1`109`720 shares, 50 satoshi per share	[15:00]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-10-2013#358165	[15:00]
ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[15:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 12 @ 0.15999997 = 1.92 BTC [-] {2}	[15:03]
ThickAsThieves	I mostly stopped day trading against fiat in April, but have been playing with 10btc to keep my chops up the past few days.	[15:04]
ThickAsThieves	helps keep me from doing larger/dumber moves too	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	10 btc is a good sum to play.	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	i recall when the biggest fish flash game came in i put 10 btc in to eat micon's fish	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	or was it 100	[15:04]
ThickAsThieves	sounds like a joke	[15:05]
ThickAsThieves	fish flash game?	[15:05]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/the-biggest-fish-pretty-cool-javascript-game/	[15:05]
ozbot	The Biggest Fish, pretty cool javascript game pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	whoa, a year almost to the day. cool.	[15:06]
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ThickAsThieves	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338884.msg3634410#msg3634410 maybe i should put my 10btc here next	[15:08]
ozbot	Seeking Venture Capitalists	[15:08]
ThickAsThieves	looking for a 10btc venture capitalist	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:09]
mircea_popescu	looking for a 4'6" basketball player	[15:09]
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mircea_popescu	.d	[15:12]
ozbot	609482679.88835 \| Next Diff in 1707 blocks \| Estimated Change: 8.2495% in 10d 20h 54m 16s	[15:12]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [+]	[15:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00084013 = 3.0665 BTC [+]	[15:17]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MG] 7839 @ 0.00013 = 1.0191 BTC [-]	[15:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.029 = 0.145 BTC [+]	[15:39]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[15:43]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 574.87, Best ask: 576.7433, Bid-ask spread: 1.87330, Last trade: 578.0, 24 hour volume: 115457.00212478, 24 hour low: 502.6212, 24 hour high: 900.97998, 24 hour vwap: 692.59887	[15:43]
thestringpuller	;;market buy 15000	[15:44]
gribble	A market order to buy 15000 bitcoins right now would take 12446334.1131 USD and would take the last price up to 1050.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 829.7556 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 24.4044 seconds	[15:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 158 @ 0.0042 = 0.6636 BTC [-]	[15:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 86 @ 0.00186994 = 0.1608 BTC [+] {2}	[15:58]
ThickAsThieves	coinbase wont let me buy anymore coins	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	wants to give me friday';s price	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:59]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45673 @ 0.00083883 = 38.3119 BTC [-] {3}	[16:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.49 = 2.45 BTC [+]	[16:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00422 = 0.4347 BTC [+]	[16:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00425008 = 0.4463 BTC [+] {4}	[16:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.47 BTC [-]	[16:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0043 = 0.3354 BTC [+]	[16:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 205 @ 0.00105246 = 0.2158 BTC [+] {3}	[16:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1737 @ 0.00007686 = 0.1335 BTC [-] {12}	[16:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 122 @ 0.00187 = 0.2281 BTC [+]	[16:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00084111 = 10.8503 BTC [+] {2}	[16:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 16 @ 0.06 = 0.96 BTC [+]	[17:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.20000001 BTC [-]	[17:02]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.16500003 = 0.33 BTC [+]	[17:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1289 BTC [+]	[17:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 400 @ 0.00105359 = 0.4214 BTC [+] {2}	[17:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 2069 @ 0.0001 = 0.2069 BTC [-] {3}	[17:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.4602526 = 0.9205 BTC [-] {2}	[17:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 58 @ 0.45050505 = 26.1293 BTC [-] {2}	[17:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 255 @ 0.00420627 = 1.0726 BTC [-] {2}	[17:37]
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altoz	;; asks 9999999999	[17:57]
gribble	There are currently 20118.403 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999999.0 USD, worth 733200532.933 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0035 seconds	[17:57]
altoz	;; bids 0	[17:57]
gribble	There are currently 16370366 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 25058255.2925 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 3.5028 seconds	[17:57]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-]	[17:59]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1300 @ 0.00180732 = 2.3495 BTC [-] {6}	[18:23]
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benkay	;;ticker --market all	[18:30]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD last: 699.0, vol: 114259.91623971 \| BTC-E BTCUSD last: 606.999, vol: 93330.43042 \| Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 603.01, vol: 29542.87684916 \| BTCChina BTCUSD last: 922.242, vol: 105975.91400000 \| Volume-weighted last average: 734.662009482	[18:30]
benkay	is that a hundred dollar premium over at gox?	[18:30]
benkay	now they've got this pathological thing going on where people are all "o hai arb i arb u now i can ams arb like big boy!1!" and get their shitbucks stuck on gox	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	here's how this works : as noobs come in but don't bother to learn what's what, the prices go up on all exchanges	[18:31]
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mircea_popescu	then as the same noobs discover that gox is fine and dandy but you can never get paid by it...	[18:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10161 @ 0.00084173 = 8.5528 BTC [+] {2}	[18:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 739 @ 0.00084282 = 0.6228 BTC [+]	[18:39]
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pankkake	there is definitely a noob influx on the forums	[18:44]
benkay	1500 by xmas?	[18:44]
kleeck	DEAR MILLIONAIRES HE IS WHAT NOT TO DO, SINCERELY A 14 YEAR OLD.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	i just looked at the gambling section. holy hell.	[18:45]
kleeck	Yeah. with all this new BTC inflowing, gambling might be a cashcow.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	my oracle however shows this is going to be the worst wave.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	the 30s was pretty horrid and then the 100 was worse, but this is gonna be the worst and then we're done.	[18:46]
benkay	done?	[18:46]
benkay	really?	[18:46]
benkay	infinite hitpoints exhausted?	[18:46]
kleeck	mircea_popescu, worse it what way?	[18:46]
mircea_popescu	worse in the stupid way.	[18:47]
mike_c	average iq	[18:47]
kleeck	lol	[18:47]
kleeck	Yea. we've dredged the bottome, eh?	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	may headache medication last us through the dark months ahead.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	and to all ye ltc haters : if there were no ltc what would we do with all the ltc entrepreneurs ? hm /	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 7 @ 0.2 = 1.4 BTC [-]	[18:51]
mircea_popescu	in retrospect bitcoin was amazingly effectual in resource allocation.	[18:52]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	for instance the ponzi issue was resolved out of a few million dollah.	[18:52]
jefito	hello	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	hi.	[18:54]
jefito	how goes it	[18:54]
jefito	how about that devaluing usd and cny	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	we're waiting for the night to fall	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	when everything is bear-a-ball	[18:54]
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nubbins`	"I created a bitcoin wallet in 2010 and forgot about it. After seeing BTC hit $900, I went back and checked my stash..." --> http://i.imgur.com/BPIBqPP.png	[19:17]
jefito	i call bullshit	[19:18]
jefito	media stunt	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	sounds like reddit yeah	[19:18]
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mike_c	i don't get it, of course its bullshit. total received = 0	[19:18]
mike_c	mebbe i'm confused	[19:19]
ThickAsThieves	i dont get it either	[19:19]
nubbins`	well, that's the lel	[19:19]
nubbins`	redditards are all like "i spent 1 cent on btc back in 1975, now i'm a trillionaire"	[19:20]
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nubbins`	but why do they get all the fame? how about the guys who spent all their coins!	[19:20]
mircea_popescu	this is not to get.	[19:22]
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ThickAsThieves	so it's like performance art	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	awkward and embarassing	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	pretty much.	[19:23]
nubbins`	you guys are weird	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	except instead of being done by sexually frustrated, socially insecure young women	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	it's done by sexually frustrated, sociallly insecure young men.	[19:24]
nubbins`	anyway, much more exciting, the postman dropped off 325 sheets of stonehenge paper just now: http://imgur.com/9HDLkCj	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` cute socks.	[19:24]
nubbins`	aw, thanks!	[19:24]
nubbins`	that box arrived ripped open like that, but the paper seems fine	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	NSA needed to get at it	[19:25]
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nubbins`	heh	[19:25]
nubbins`	trying to find the shirts	[19:25]
nubbins`	those boxes are so goddamn heavy	[19:26]
nubbins`	43 pounds each!	[19:27]
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topace_	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=HIF	[19:44]
nubbins`	anyway, i literally lel'd last night after watching btc go from $575 to $847 to $600 over a couple of hours on virtex	[19:44]
nubbins`	topace_: hence the name change HIM->HMF, i guess?	[19:45]
topace_	indee	[19:45]
topace_	d	[19:45]
topace_	wanted to avoid confusion between HIM and HIF, so HIM->HMF	[19:45]
nubbins`	sounds exciting	[19:46]
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nubbins`	50 funds in the wings! yipes	[19:48]
altoz	;;asks 99999999	[19:50]
gribble	There are currently 19287.756 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 163448145.677 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0034 seconds	[19:50]
nubbins`	the numbers you've got here show a 58% annual yield for first-round ipo buyers	[19:51]
nubbins`	unless i missed a zero somewhere	[19:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00083837 = 15.2583 BTC [-]	[19:51]
ThickAsThieves	topace_ where is the prospectus?	[19:53]
topace_	on the fund reports page	[19:56]
pankkake	forum thread has so many typos on "havelock"	[19:57]
nubbins`	"Now here’s something I gotta say that I get a lot of comment on and this is that I have had guys tell me that they want to impregnate to have their baby, well to let you guys know that I am down for that kind of thing only if my hubby is okay with it because that’s what we did with our second child, so my kids are mines and none our his."	[19:57]
nubbins`	i'm going to ponder that too-long sentence for the rest of the day	[19:57]
pankkake	"i don't want to live on this planet anymore"	[19:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.16500002 = 0.66 BTC [-] {2}	[19:58]
nubbins`	oof @ vtx	[19:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.165 = 2.145 BTC [-]	[19:59]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.14 = 0.7 BTC [-]	[20:00]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` it's like a whole subculture.	[20:01]
nubbins`	less weird than the "gift-giver" subculture, but still wholly bizarre	[20:01]
nubbins`	curious to see what her husband looks like	[20:02]
mircea_popescu	probably like http://cdn.collarme.com/photos/1600334p13.jpg	[20:03]
nubbins`	funny, i'd pictured something like this: http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/nerdy-businessman-holding-smartphone-26329380.jpg	[20:04]
pankkake	haha collarme	[20:05]
nubbins`	or this: http://prickmag.net/images/Sep09/punkassfeature1.jpg	[20:05]
nubbins`	couldn't quite decide	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` nah, white collar slavebois are usually much too insecure to live in cuckold arrangements.	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	it's usually a trucker or w/e.	[20:05]
nubbins`	ah, makes sense	[20:06]
nubbins`	ok, so apparently gift-giving is called "bug chasing" for those in the know	[20:06]
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nubbins`	<--so behind the times	[20:06]
altoz	;;asks 99999999	[20:07]
gribble	There are currently 19812.131 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 163935373.837 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0035 seconds	[20:07]
pankkake	Bugchasing is a slang term for the practice of pursuing sexual intercourse with HIV-infected individuals in order to contract HIV. Individuals engaged in this activity are referred to as bugchasers.	[20:07]
pankkake	WAT	[20:07]
pankkake	facefloor	[20:07]
nubbins`	http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers	[20:08]
nubbins`	no joke	[20:08]
ozbot	gift givers for neg guys - tribe.net	[20:08]
pankkake	is this real, or mostly fantasies?	[20:08]
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nubbins`	pankkake: like most things, probably a mixture of both	[20:08]
mircea_popescu	"it's a form of self harm" umm... no, it's a form of obamacare darwinism.	[20:08]
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mircea_popescu	only the best plans may be kept.	[20:09]
nubbins`	fun fact, negative woman having unprotected sex with positive man has a 1/500 chance of getting infected with each encounter	[20:09]
pankkake	I looked into voluntary amputees a while ago, and couldn't really find out the part of real vs fantasy	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	no, it's more like 1/50.	[20:09]
pankkake	but they same more sane than this stuff	[20:09]
jefito	ugh	[20:09]
mircea_popescu	pankkake voluntary amputee, the ultimate trophy wife. she can not do anything except fuck.	[20:10]
nubbins`	pankkake: i met a voluntary self-amputee once	[20:10]
jefito	^ bugchasing	[20:10]
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pankkake	oh, interesting	[20:10]
nubbins`	she chiselled off the tip of one of her fingers	[20:10]
nubbins`	pinky, i believe	[20:10]
pankkake	I guess like most people she never learned to touch-type	[20:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00084294 = 35.7407 BTC [+] {3}	[20:11]
nubbins`	i use my pinky more than my ring finger when typing	[20:11]
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nubbins`	anyway, it's easier to find pictures of her tits than her amputated finger these days	[20:12]
nubbins`	oh n/m, it was a ring finger	[20:12]
nubbins`	http://distilleryimage10.s3.amazonaws.com/9b2cc608ebc211e1ab431231380fbe1d_6.jpg	[20:12]
nubbins`	more to the point, http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/050907/23/431fc64fd10c3.jpg	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	didn't serve her.	[20:14]
nubbins`	^ blanket statement covering most self-amputees	[20:15]
kakobrekla	you can always have some shrimp flavored crack, http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/arpMYOB_700b.jpg	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	frozen rape leaf, to soothe a chaffed muff ?	[20:18]
nubbins`	"SOUP FOR SLUTS"	[20:19]
nubbins`	hahaha	[20:19]
nubbins`	http://imgur.com/rjL5n1t	[20:21]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[20:21]
nubbins`	http://imgur.com/bUQ6khn	[20:23]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[20:23]
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jefito	https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blog/946445bf4ff	[20:33]
dub_	http://www.businessinsider.com.au/gselevators-holiday-gift-guide-2013-11	[20:34]
ozbot	The Unofficial Goldman Sachs Holiday Gift Guide \| Business Insider	[20:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5280 @ 0.00009599 = 0.5068 BTC [+] {3}	[20:36]
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jefito	that rolex is nice	[20:42]
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nubbins`	not wearing a watch is nicer	[20:44]
dub_	yeah	[20:44]
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dub	only time I wear awatch is diving	[20:45]
nubbins`	only been diving once, but it was amazing	[20:45]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[20:45]
dub	don't like wearing any jewlery	[20:45]
nubbins`	i ruptured an eardrum	[20:45]
nubbins`	but it was still a blast :(	[20:45]
dub	bad santa is awesome though	[20:46]
pankkake	to me, any watch is for the poor. being rich is not caring about the time	[20:46]
nubbins`	^	[20:46]
dub	only doing it once suggests a lack of training	[20:46]
nubbins`	dub, i was on vacation	[20:46]
dub	which is why you ruptured your shit	[20:46]
nubbins`	and found myself in this sleepy colombian village where dive classes were really, really cheap	[20:46]
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dub	there you go	[20:47]
nubbins`	well, no, i ruptured my shit because i have bad eustachian tubes and i lied on the medical questionnaire	[20:47]
nubbins`	:D	[20:47]
nubbins`	(totally worth it)	[20:47]
nubbins`	although they're not kidding when they say it makes you feel nausea	[20:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 222 @ 0.00188 = 0.4174 BTC [+]	[20:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 3 @ 0.075 = 0.225 BTC [+]	[20:52]
deadweasel	did your rupture heal ok	[20:54]
deadweasel	?	[20:54]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake i also don't wear one, mostly cause too lazy to put them on	[21:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 37 @ 0.00400002 = 0.148 BTC [-]	[21:03]
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nubbins`	deadweasel: yeah, couple of weeks and it was fine	[21:07]
nubbins`	i was worried for a bit, because i ruptured the other drum as a child and it's never been the same since	[21:08]
nubbins`	okay, so we have a rudimentary washout booth set up in the studio, with a bucket underneath to catch wastewater	[21:09]
nubbins`	i just forgot to empty it before cleaning a screen, and overflowed it all over the fucking floor	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	time to call for the wife.	[21:09]
deadweasel	lordy, you gotta pay more attention to RL, ignore IRC more.	[21:09]
deadweasel	:)	[21:10]
nubbins`	FWIW, i was paying attention to washing out a screen when i noticed my feet getting wet	[21:14]
nubbins`	anyway, guess i'd better pipe this thing to a drain, hey?	[21:14]
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deadweasel	seems like. dry feet are a blessing.	[21:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.075 = 0.75 BTC [+]	[21:20]
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