Forum logs for 19 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov hm, i'm slowly abadoning hope that the glbse passthroughs will ever be resolved [00:04]
jurov next option for coinbr seems to buy eurorail ticket and make talks about mpex/coinbr everywhere [00:05]
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jurov although i'm horrible in convincing people :/ [00:05]
pigeons maybe you need a pr girl [00:05]
kakobrekla hehe [00:05]
mircea_popescu next option for coinbr seems to buy eurorail ticket and make talks about mpex/coinbr everywher << i like this idea [00:06]
jurov hehe... don't happen to have gf, and no one will do that for free [00:06]
mircea_popescu gf ?! i thought you swung the other way. [00:06]
jurov nor bf [00:06]
mircea_popescu a couple years ago i made a contest on my blog. people could comment with their address, get a stack of business card sized stickers [00:07]
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mircea_popescu then if they sent pictures with them put up somewhere they'd get some moneyz [00:07]
mircea_popescu lemme see if i can dig it up [00:07]
jurov i was trying to be a OVB financial agent some 2yrs ago and i realized i'm really horrible at sales [00:08]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/3709.html [00:09]
mircea_popescu that's the thread with ppl posting pics [00:09]
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jurov dunno. i have talked with some of my entrepreneur friends and even got a response like "you look like typical coder, they don't do this... shouldn't you rather find a job?" [00:15]
jurov asshole [00:15]
jurov but if that's really an impression i make to ppl... :/ [00:16]
mircea_popescu what are you trying to do exactly ? [00:16]
jurov to have some meaningful volume on coinbr [00:17]
mircea_popescu well that's not exactly something for cold calling is it ? [00:19]
jurov :D [00:20]
jurov nor distributing stickers [00:20]
mircea_popescu well that was for the blog obviously. [00:22]
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mircea_popescu but listen jurov, i think you being or not being a salesman has very little to do with it. [00:32]
mircea_popescu it's easy to forget what a horrible time for btc finance we're going through. in the past THREE months pirate, hasking, nefario, harnett and a dozen more idiots raped the innocent public quite raw. [00:32]
mircea_popescu i'd be much surprised if fifty of the few hundred/coupla k glbse "investors" are still in the market today. [00:33]
kakobrekla im in the market but theres not much to play on really [00:33]
jurov on the other hand, i raised 65BTC via btcjam already... that's much more coinbr has ever seen [00:35]
mircea_popescu i wonder how many of those will ever get repaid. [00:35]
jurov so i guess at least some bitcoins are around [00:35]
kakobrekla at least 65 of em [00:35]
jurov haha [00:35]
kakobrekla well i have a few 100 btc players since we are talking bout it [00:36]
mircea_popescu jurov may also be a matter of process [00:37]
mircea_popescu guy lands on your site. what's the landing page ? [00:37]
jurov "about" text [00:38]
mircea_popescu make a proper register button [00:38]
mircea_popescu who were we discussing earlier, bitpay ? [00:39]
mircea_popescu https://bitpay.com/ look at their page [00:39]
mircea_popescu slut, bitcoin, coupla words and a large green button [00:39]
kakobrekla no boobs. [00:39]
mircea_popescu maybe upper side tops [00:39]
mircea_popescu no nips [00:39]
jurov okay, can do. but i suspect something else too. quite a number of peeps registered, but never sent anything [00:40]
mircea_popescu o ? [00:40]
mircea_popescu i rarely get that. [00:40]
kakobrekla well i was expressing that in a sad tone. sorry it didnt come through. [00:40]
temp_kluge At least, the stupid-wealthy investors appear to be out. I don't think anyone will be offering me 1kBTC without even having terms established for a long while... [00:41]
kakobrekla lol [00:41]
mircea_popescu say wut ?! [00:41]
temp_kluge Or maybe they bought in early and everything after making back the $5k they spent to acquire 10kBTC+ was a gamble for amusement. [00:42]
mircea_popescu this boggles the mind. do you imagine anyone is giving you money ? why ? [00:42]
temp_kluge Soon after Pirate defaulted, I was offered 10kBTC "when" he returns it. No promissory note or anything. People were ridiculously trusting during Pirate's reign. [00:43]
mircea_popescu yes, inexplicably at some point you had credit. [00:43]
mircea_popescu then again, a bunch of idiots had credit at some point, through the sheer blessing of "being there". [00:43]
temp_kluge Now, people want to know "what's my money being used for?" "Where's the notarized promissory note?" "Where do you work?" -- you have to actually work for money. :( [00:44]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla is this a troll ? [00:44]
kakobrekla lol good question [00:44]
temp_kluge Naw. [00:45]
kakobrekla proove it [00:45]
temp_kluge I've had MPOE-PR on ignore since the second time he/she/it PMd me back in something like May. [00:45]
mircea_popescu well seeing how the dilemma is troll or idiot, seems hardly worth proving. [00:45]
mircea_popescu http://www.iwearyourshirt.com/ i wonder if something like this'd be worth doing for bitcoin [00:50]
pigeons kakobrekla: is there MT4 for linux? [00:53]
kakobrekla i dont think so [00:53]
kakobrekla vm is your friend [00:54]
mircea_popescu but whai! [00:54]
kakobrekla cause people are stupid. [00:55]
kakobrekla didnt you see that jewtube link? [00:55]
mircea_popescu I SAW ALL OF THEM [00:56]
mircea_popescu except that one! [00:56]
smickles ;;lucky poliboobs.jpg [00:59]
gribble http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/ [00:59]
smickles mircea_popescu: you've lost the top spot! [00:59]
smickles ... to the miami herald political page? [01:00]
mircea_popescu aww! [01:00]
mircea_popescu ;;lucky poliboobs [01:01]
gribble http://politits.blogspot.com/ [01:01]
mircea_popescu heh [01:01]
mircea_popescu a, you have to do img search [01:01]
mircea_popescu not plain search [01:01]
jurov what are obama, paul and blair doing there? [01:02]
jurov bin laden, bush, clinton there too.. veritable who's who [01:03]
jurov thatcher isn't there... suspicion confirmed [01:04]
mircea_popescu huh ? [01:05]
jurov nor hillary [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00050198 = 13.699 BTC [+] [01:22]
pigeons what a tease [01:22]
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mircea_popescu i still can't quite wrap my head around it, was kludge just here whining about how you have to work to get btc now ? [01:54]
pigeons seemed like it [01:54]
mircea_popescu teh interwebs be boundless in their bounty. [01:55]
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thestringpuller i will make a fart joke for 1 btc [02:14]
thestringpuller jk [02:14]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: would you invest in a film via btc? [02:15]
thestringpuller take dat as a no ;) [02:16]
mircea_popescu lol [02:22]
mircea_popescu i invested in a few films, but never wihtout knowing the producers [02:22]
mircea_popescu and sampling the stars. [02:22]
thestringpuller that's so hollywood "sampling the stars" [02:23]
thestringpuller "I will give you the part for 10 blow jobs" [02:23]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you should invest in fringe science [02:34]
mircea_popescu what's that ? [02:35]
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thestringpuller crazy futuristic science [02:39]
thestringpuller like time travel [02:39]
thestringpuller or interdimensional travelling [02:39]
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mircea_popescu meh. [02:45]
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thestringpuller science never fails [02:46]
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pigeons or magnets [02:52]
mircea_popescu "I will give you the part for 10 blow jobs" << that;s really not how it works. [03:02]
smickles How do they work? [03:02]
smickles :P [03:03]
mircea_popescu it's not a count issue. it's a matter of making sure the girl is personable. [03:03]
mircea_popescu "Other related people (smickles) are behaving quite good, and we had useful discussions over support email." [03:03]
mircea_popescu the man says. [03:03]
mircea_popescu did they manage to produce an explanation in the end ? [03:03]
smickles not yet [03:04]
kakobrekla urlpls [03:04]
mircea_popescu why do scammers always behave in this particular manner. [03:04]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1343748#msg1343748 [03:04]
mircea_popescu o im sorry kakobrekla, were you asking for personable girl url ? [03:04]
kakobrekla well now that you mentioned it... [03:05]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135328008984.jpg i would call this personable. [03:05]
kakobrekla i would not disagree. [03:06]
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mircea_popescu hallo dedis18 [03:07]
smickles How am I considering that article of clothing a skirt? [03:07]
mircea_popescu what else is it, a hat ? [03:07]
smickles Maybe it's just a headband, and she's wearing it wrong [03:07]
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mircea_popescu any belt wider than two inches made of textile material counts as a skirt if around the waist. [03:08]
mircea_popescu rule #34857-F [03:08]
mircea_popescu btw smickles, the thing about blogging is that you always suck at first [03:14]
mircea_popescu but if you manage to stick with it for a few years, writing daily or so, you'll notice impressive improvement. [03:14]
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kakobrekla that last line holds true for most of stuff [03:15]
mircea_popescu sex ? [03:17]
mircea_popescu it does hold true for oral and anal, if you're a girl. anal especially. [03:17]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi [04:50]
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smickles mircea_popescu: did bitvps stop issuing monthly reports? [04:55]
mircea_popescu not afaik ? [04:56]
smickles their website stop at july, the listing on mpex says that they may also be roported on bitcointalk, but i can't find them [04:57]
mircea_popescu hm [04:58]
mircea_popescu better ask rg about this [04:58]
mircea_popescu ;;seen rg [04:58]
gribble rg was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: wow, i guess you showed us. [04:58]
mircea_popescu mm [04:58]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell rg mircea_popescu: did bitvps stop issuing monthly reports? [04:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:58]
smickles i pm'd him and grubles [04:58]
smickles the've kept up on dividends tho [04:59]
mircea_popescu any answer ? [05:00]
smickles not yet, it's only been a couple of hours or so [05:01]
mircea_popescu a ok [05:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.08387781 BTC [-] [06:30]
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smickles ;;view [07:05]
gribble #11746 Sat Nov 17 17:08:46 2012 smickles SELL 900.0 Trilema Credits @ 0.1 BTC (None) [07:05]
smickles ^for serious [07:05]
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smickles man, the robots love my blog [07:07]
smickles they've visited over 200 times in just a couple of days [07:07]
smickles and when do we have to stop suffering posts like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126617.msg1344102#msg1344102 [07:10]
smickles " I'd say we got 2 to 4 months tops to do something about the 21 million bit coin cap" [07:11]
smickles oh [07:14]
smickles s/have to/get to/ [07:14]
mircea_popescu So I've decided to get into mining with a couple of decent laptops [07:15]
mircea_popescu lol /thread [07:16]
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smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126630.msg1344347#msg1344347 [07:19]
smickles mircea_popescu: ^ [07:19]
smickles damn [07:19]
mircea_popescu wtf ?! that actually works ? [07:20]
smickles *disclaimer, i'v not, at all, looked into the authenticity of those claims [07:20]
smickles wild [07:21]
mircea_popescu afaik stuff only propagates if it's positive [07:21]
mircea_popescu "We will never end poverty if we don't tackle climate change. It is one of the single biggest challenges to social justice today," Kim told reporters on a conference call on Friday. [07:21]
mircea_popescu jesus fuck ? [07:21]
mircea_popescu who put those fuckwits there. i don't want to end poverty and i piss on social justice omg wtf [07:21]
smickles well, kim is a dumbass [07:21]
smickles who is kim? [07:22]
mircea_popescu some korean i guess [07:22]
smickles can i short kim? [07:22]
smickles actually... [07:22]
mircea_popescu i dunno, but if you shoot kim... [07:22]
smickles can I pump and dump kim :) [07:22]
mircea_popescu anyway. kim is the president of the world bank [07:22]
smickles :o [07:23]
mircea_popescu which i dunno how the fuck he got [07:23]
mircea_popescu http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/18/world-bank-climate-change-report_n_2156082.html sauce [07:23]
smickles I guess i am shorting kim [07:23]
smickles ya know [07:23]
smickles there is one surefire way to end poverty [07:23]
mircea_popescu As the first scientist to head the World Bank, Kim has pointed to "unequivocal" scientific evidence for man-made climate change to urge countries to do more. [07:24]
mircea_popescu Kim said 97 percent of scientists agree on the reality of climate change. [07:24]
smickles ignore climate change, bake the planet, kill all humans [07:24]
mircea_popescu dude, 97% of ppl called "scientist" in the media are monkeys. [07:24]
mircea_popescu smickles known as the poincarre argument. [07:24]
mircea_popescu "the end of human suffering can never be a policy goal because the easiest way to achieve it is to just kill everyone" [07:25]
smickles woah, man, i'm a bit drunk for that right nao [07:25]
Namjies So I get it the common good interest fews... [07:25]
smickles call it the skynet argument [07:25]
mircea_popescu Namjies there is no "common good" other than in the populist discourse. [07:26]
smickles ;;ident Namjies [07:26]
gribble Nick 'Namjies', with hostmask 'Namjies!~BTC-Minin@modemcable065.181-83-70.mc.videotron.ca', is identified as user Namjies, with GPG key id F2758D83EEEDE453, key fingerprint F12DE6B4E1EF26F5768BE918F2758D83EEEDE453, and bitcoin address 1Namjies9JeJ4ugCzjkAj6dbaWrtjAFKCk [07:26]
mircea_popescu anyone speaking to the common good is a fraud. [07:26]
smickles no wai, using your otc name? [07:26]
mircea_popescu i like the videotron.ca part, he's like a hardcore gamer :D [07:26]
mircea_popescu smickles : poincarre gets precedence cause of being french, president and 1800s [07:27]
smickles I saw that when we tried to play monopoly, thought it was bad ass just from the form of it (aesthetics) [07:27]
Namjies I'm not saying what many you hear ain't bollocks, especially when it comes to "facts" about the environments, people's condition, etc. being easy to check out as false. [07:28]
mircea_popescu Namjies how about forcing everyone to move to TOXIC mercury-based lighting under the pretext of "helping the environment" [07:29]
mircea_popescu tho it doesn't help it, it just makes poor countries unable to export lightbulbs [07:29]
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mircea_popescu which were exactly at their technological level, a good stepping stone to development [07:29]
smickles at least it's cheaper if they last as long as they claim for the end user [07:29]
mircea_popescu "scientists agree". fuck them, 97% of them have nothing to do with science, they just agree and get funding and agree more and get more funding. [07:30]
smickles (throw a couple of commas in there will you) [07:30]
mircea_popescu smickles except they don't last longer. [07:30]
Namjies Yeah, what I'm saying, not do that if you don't believe it's going to help. [07:30]
mircea_popescu they last less, and then they create piles of mercury. [07:30]
pigeons plus the light from those toxic cfl things is awful and depressing [07:30]
pigeons and yellowish [07:30]
smickles I can use mercury tho [07:30]
mircea_popescu im still using fillamets [07:30]
smickles at least for fun [07:30]
Namjies I'm talking merely about avoiding of negatively impacting people in general when you can and are aware of it. [07:30]
mircea_popescu and bought massive stocks [07:30]
mircea_popescu Namjies ya well, nobody's arguing about that. [07:31]
pigeons yeah i stocked up on good lightbulbs, i learned my lesson, made a killing on regular flow toliets [07:31]
Namjies Well [00:21] who put those fuckwits there. i don't want to end poverty and i piss on social justice omg wtf [07:31]
mircea_popescu pigeons srsly ? [07:31]
smickles fuckit, screw this planet as hard as we can, we need to get off this rock anyway [07:31]
Namjies Could be misinterpreted [07:31]
mircea_popescu Namjies i guess so. but i don't want to hurt them either, i just don't want to end poverty. that's all. [07:31]
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mircea_popescu i am against all action when that action doesn't have a moral and legitimate profit reason. [07:32]
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pigeons mircea_popescu: yes, where i live about 15 years ago they mandated "low flow" toliets that take 2 flushes, and the old ones are selling for several hundred dollar premiums and i've sold out [07:32]
Namjies not the fuckwits, they might well be. Both side tend to exaggerate and pull statistics out of nowhere. [07:32]
mircea_popescu pigeons heh. sounds like ny. [07:32]
smickles fear of poverty must motivate some good that wouldn't have otherwise arisin [07:32]
pigeons north carolina [07:32]
smickles fuck NC [07:32]
smickles it was a bad place to live [07:33]
mircea_popescu pretty much the only thing i like about romania is that none of this shit took any hold (yet) [07:33]
mircea_popescu there's a ban on fillament lightbulbs ? they're sold in the stores. fuck you, eu. [07:33]
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mircea_popescu there was a ban on exporting gas to serbia ? [07:33]
mircea_popescu everyone was doing daily trips there to sell gas. [07:33]
smickles that's ballzy [07:33]
mircea_popescu not rly. [07:34]
pigeons yeah in usa regular lightbulbs can't be sold starting some date in the future, i dont know if thats changed or what [07:34]
Namjies there's a ban on fillament lightbulbs in Europe? [07:34]
smickles mircea_popescu: natural gas? [07:34]
mircea_popescu yeah. [07:34]
mircea_popescu smickles no, gasoline. car fuel. [07:34]
smickles oh, nvm then [07:34]
mircea_popescu funny enough tho, diesel was at a premium (cause of tanks) [07:34]
mircea_popescu but most people moved gas. [07:35]
Namjies Odd... [07:35]
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mircea_popescu The first types to go are non-clear (frosted) bulbs, which are off the market since September 2009. Also from September 2009 clear bulbs over 100W were made of more efficient types. This limit was moved down to lower wattages, and the efficiency levels raised by the end of 2012 [07:35]
pigeons you mean when there is market intervention there are consequences and unintented consequences? [07:36]
mircea_popescu i am currently basking in the light of two 200W clear fillament lightbulbs [07:36]
mircea_popescu and actually, inspired by this discussion i think ima buy a few more tomorrow. [07:37]
Namjies Well I don't particularly like fillament lightbulbs but heck, I don't see a problem with them. [07:37]
pigeons bitbulb.com, coming soon to mpex [07:37]
mircea_popescu lol [07:37]
mircea_popescu these nitwits. [07:38]
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mircea_popescu every time the girl blasts some dubious operation to hell there's a string of bs "attacks" on polimedia [07:38]
mircea_popescu like, automated acunetix or w/e it's called that thing [07:38]
mircea_popescu ./././././././././. etc [07:38]
mircea_popescu can't the script kiddies just get together, compare notes and engage in bro-love instead ? [07:39]
pigeons yeah i'm sure the same scan will be looking for cold fusion and asp as well [07:39]
mircea_popescu it is. and for windows ini [07:39]
pigeons so subtle [07:40]
mod6 lol cfm ftw [07:40]
mircea_popescu and patently retarded shit like cat passwd [07:40]
mircea_popescu 5.39.68.159 - - [18/Nov/2012:15:42:40 -0500] "GET [07:41]
mircea_popescu /fain/comercial/..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2f..%2fetc%2fpasswd [07:41]
mircea_popescu he literally has a literal etc in there. [07:41]
mod6 clearly a bromosexual [07:41]
Namjies You want misfits that have found no better way to spend their lonely time than looking to damage web properties to SOCIALIZE and SHARE thing? [07:42]
mircea_popescu Namjies i bet you it's butthurt forum people who figure in their own mind they know shit. [07:42]
mircea_popescu AND WILL PROVE IT TO ME [07:43]
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mircea_popescu the only irritating part is that after they fail they don't consequently get assraped by a velociraptor. [07:43]
mircea_popescu this lack of dire consequences for failure is getting on my nerves. [07:43]
Namjies No, but seriously, they have to share, or they wouldn't have got their hands on their scripts in the first place. [07:43]
mircea_popescu well then can't they share that the stuff dun work ? [07:44]
pigeons no that isnt important to them, they just add the failures to things to try [07:44]
mircea_popescu typical 16yo dickery, except 20 years ago they were telling stories about the women they fucked. [07:44]
Namjies It apparently works sometimes. [07:44]
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Namjies Just not so well when you want to attack a specific server. [07:44]
pigeons nope. worked sometimes 10 years ago [07:45]
mircea_popescu pigeons i want the old west back. you pull your gun and miss ? you'll be missed. [07:45]
mircea_popescu he's right Namjies, i did a piece on it a few days ago. people were trying stuff literally patched in the 2005 edition of asp.net [07:45]
mircea_popescu against a linux machine. [07:45]
pigeons it comes about from not having to have any discretion i think. "oh i'm using some wndows botnet, who cares if i lose it". also oh i'll run a tool from someone cared so little about they made it public, and is used for people who don't care about stealth they are using it on their own servers [07:46]
mircea_popescu well ya, and that lack of discretion isn't born out of the complete lack of dire consequences for failure ? [07:47]
mircea_popescu we live in a spam culture. [07:47]
pigeons yeah [07:47]
mircea_popescu once kids realise that the worst that can happen if they say something stupid is nothing at all they can never stop yammering. [07:48]
Namjies If you scan at large for machines to hack, I'm sure some guy with a single website on a small machine has not updated since then... [07:48]
mircea_popescu Namjies im pretty sure these are directional. [07:48]
mircea_popescu i can tell by a few pixels and also the very particular time distribution [07:49]
pigeons also they scan for shit from 2001 [07:49]
Namjies Yeah, well as I said, those scripts don't work so well when you want to attack a specific server. [07:49]
mod6 Attack Mode: Weaksauce [07:50]
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Namjies But you know there's a few businesses out there that update their software every 20 years or so. An that's almost not an hyperbole. [07:51]
mircea_popescu http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/07/14/article-0-140E5A33000005DC-550_964x984.jpg [07:51]
mircea_popescu quick quizz : what profession did Delphaline, aged 17 in the pic go into ? [07:51]
mircea_popescu a. world bank president [07:51]
mircea_popescu b. oil field worker [07:51]
mircea_popescu c. las vegas. [07:51]
mod6 It blows my mind that any machine that exists on public IP space currently, and is in a legacy OS setup wouldn't already be compromised. [07:52]
mircea_popescu mod6 i have one that runs sarge. [07:53]
mircea_popescu why'd it be compromised ? [07:53]
dub a lot of it will be old bots cut off from the c&c but still scanning [07:54]
mircea_popescu who pays the power bill? [07:54]
dub why wouldnt the bill be paid? server is still sitting there doing its job, its just doing another job too [07:56]
dub lost count of how many times I've heard 'we got a security expert in to fix it' [07:56]
dub who either did nothign at all or patched the hole but left the infection [07:56]
mircea_popescu that may be it yeah. [07:56]
mircea_popescu reminds me of the fallout2 intro. [07:57]
Namjies eheh, old bots, forgotten by their hacker and still in use by the business. That little unkown process just sending odd requests outside. [07:57]
mircea_popescu their souls, mingled into the background radiation... [07:57]
mod6 haha crap. my laptop batter died -- shutting downmy box ... [07:57]
mod6 one sec. [07:57]
Namjies Fallout 2! [07:57]
dub I had a box get botted many moons ago via ssh bf and a retarded user [07:57]
dub imbarassingly I only noticed because I had too many connections to undernet suddenly [07:57]
mircea_popescu lol [07:57]
mircea_popescu the soul of discretion. [07:57]
Namjies I have to play that game again. [07:58]
dub tracked it to some romanians [07:58]
mod6 oh anyway, just saying how there are so many random attacks from bots etc. many winders machines get pwned if not updated on the regular [07:58]
mircea_popescu Namjies fallout 1/2 rocked. pity they fucked the franchise later. [07:58]
mircea_popescu dub shocking. [07:58]
dub i know [07:58]
Namjies I had some fun with the Fallout Tactics one but really not the same thing. [07:58]
mircea_popescu not at all. [07:58]
mircea_popescu was more like a civ [07:59]
mircea_popescu you ever played the xcom thing ? was before fallout [07:59]
mircea_popescu shooting alien invaders. [07:59]
Namjies Nope [07:59]
mod6 bbs [08:00]
mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFO:_Enemy_Unknown [08:00]
mircea_popescu was back in the early 90s sometime [08:00]
dub xcom: enemy unknown, yeah they've jsut done a new one [08:00]
dub one of the best games ever [08:00]
mircea_popescu i didn't much like the 2 [08:01]
mircea_popescu and stopped trying after that. [08:02]
Namjies Early 90s? I mostly know of NES games [08:03]
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mircea_popescu Kongzi beta-8 is over 10,000 SLOC. Not LOC, SLOC. [13:27]
mircea_popescu who the hell is proud of having written MANY lines of code ? [13:27]
mircea_popescu if someone told me gcc is eighteen lines i'd be impressed. eighty million... sounds like windoze. [13:27]
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Diablo-D3 10k? thats not much [13:39]
Diablo-D3 dm is like 2k [13:39]
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kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdR_fHr_6Eg [14:11]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: when did this clown started to code? [14:14]
EskimoBob he has serious problems adding 2 numbers or getting a simple function right in spreadsheets [14:15]
EskimoBob now he is coding a world best web site? SolidCoin was almost as delusional as this guy [14:16]
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pigeons http://www.cryptoxchange.com/blog/21/crypto-x-change-suspending-trading-and-returning-client-funds [14:24]
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jurov great. i s'pose intersango is next. [14:35]
kakobrekla hm [14:38]
kakobrekla cryptostocks will live on or no then [14:38]
jurov cryptostocks seem to be linked to vircurex, not to cryptoxchange [14:44]
EskimoBob and here we go again. another exchange bites the dust. At least people do not get glbsed [14:47]
jurov that remains to be seen [14:48]
EskimoBob correct [14:48]
EskimoBob "we will be...." and everyone gets fucked [14:49]
jurov coincidence? http://www.northlandbitcoins.com/ [14:51]
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jurov hi usagi [14:59]
jurov dn't you plan to release these 10k of SLOC (not LOC) open source? [14:59]
jurov just i am, cause i'm very curious, how such deadly serious business is coded [15:01]
jurov there must be some very enterprise-y techniques involved there [15:02]
jurov i'd ask average american [15:03]
kakobrekla ;;getrating kakobrekla [15:04]
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jurov you mean you have a generator of noncorrect answers? [15:04]
pigeons usagi what is the difference between LOC and SLOC? [15:05]
pigeons do you have a lot of comments usagi? [15:06]
EskimoBob LOL, I guess this guy has no idea wtf "process management" is and how to use it [15:06]
jurov dunno, this needs some clarification " you know that all the answers which are wrong are false" [15:07]
pigeons jurov: have you never read sherlock holmes man? [15:07]
jurov you mean the computer can evaluate truthfulness of sentences? [15:07]
pigeons i am sure the Schenectady Light Opera Company is thrilled you donated 10k btc [15:07]
jurov and you did it alone over a weekend, I s'pose? [15:09]
jurov this? http://renli.wordpress.com/kongzi/ [15:13]
pigeons if the professional coders duplicated it with half as many SLOC would it cost half as much? [15:14]
EskimoBob lol [15:14]
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pigeons will you hire me for a per line project? [15:15]
EskimoBob using modern tools and actual experience and knowledge of programming, it can be done for 1/10 or less [15:15]
EskimoBob " a per line project" LOL, sure. [15:16]
pigeons ok, hire me for the most expensive language [15:17]
pigeons let's do the same thing but with a different language. Let's try chinese or something [15:18]
pigeons oh ok, let's do one that teaches woodworking then [15:20]
EskimoBob did you really teach English? [15:20]
pigeons how much would you sell your $300,000 program for? [15:20]
EskimoBob first grade or second grade? [15:21]
pigeons do those count as SLOC? [15:22]
pigeons i've worked on some big projects, but my part was quite small [15:23]
pigeons You should add "in the cloud" to your site. It will be cooler. Learn japanese in the cloud [15:24]
EskimoBob you had 6 [15:25]
EskimoBob world wide clients [15:25]
EskimoBob users [15:25]
EskimoBob what ever [15:25]
EskimoBob 6 members worldwide? yes it is [15:26]
pigeons that's great. are they paying? [15:26]
EskimoBob but you hardly speak it yourself [15:27]
pigeons that's the beauty of this system Bob [15:27]
EskimoBob how can you teach something you have no knowledge? [15:27]
pigeons you just tell it what is false, and the computer figures out the rest [15:28]
EskimoBob OO that's cool [15:28]
pigeons usagi: can we use the program to teach karate? [15:29]
EskimoBob like you did in 2003? https://www.google.com/search?q=usagi+%22Oliver+Richman%22 [15:30]
pigeons bob i am much more subtle [15:30]
EskimoBob is Serena better? [15:31]
EskimoBob or is it Appledog? [15:31]
EskimoBob same shit over again https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rec.martial-arts/ly5cmb5i8bc/aBX3EztwQ4YJ [15:31]
pigeons usagi what is your first name by the way? Mine is Dan [15:31]
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EskimoBob usagi: you are right. I am really bad troll. I am actually not even worth the "troll" name [15:32]
EskimoBob usagi: no i do not but I can probably shoot you down from 400 meters :) [15:33]
EskimoBob or 1 m, if you like [15:33]
pigeons wait i thought you weren't oliver? [15:33]
EskimoBob or just kick your ass with one hand [15:33]
EskimoBob i did my study of tao with Mr Norris [15:33]
pigeons so you post to r.m-a, and people write songs about you, but you aren't the oliver who posts there and people write songs about? which one are you? [15:34]
EskimoBob I am a coder. I am writing a fkn cms from 2001, based on 80's code - fkn fabulous, It will be the best karate teaching page on the world [15:35]
Diablo-D3 >80s code [15:36]
Diablo-D3 cobol or fortran? [15:36]
Diablo-D3 is it bigger or smaller than a breadbox? [15:37]
EskimoBob who knows memvola? [15:37]
pigeons i met her once or twice [15:37]
EskimoBob Diablo-D3: big like a fkn house [15:37]
EskimoBob her? [15:37]
EskimoBob i hope not usagi [15:37]
Diablo-D3 wait, why would anyone name themselves memvola? [15:38]
EskimoBob it is better with out wankers like you ;) [15:38]
Diablo-D3 thats the esperanto word for willing [15:38]
EskimoBob usagi: we all know that by now. [15:38]
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EskimoBob and you have been kicked out from multiple forums [15:39]
Diablo-D3 real life. [15:39]
Diablo-D3 since 2001? lol [15:39]
Diablo-D3 Ive been Diablo-D3 since 1991. [15:39]
Diablo-D3 I AM OLDER THAN THE INTERTUBES ITSELF [15:39]
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Diablo-D3 BOW BEFORE MY MIGHT! [15:40]
pigeons usagi: were you born female? [15:44]
Diablo-D3 ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: Persecution Complex [16:03]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: usagi wasnt born female, you know how I know? [16:04]
Diablo-D3 no female can resist my manlyness. [16:04]
* Diablo-D3 flexes muscles [16:04]
EskimoBob wtf are you blabbering usagi, you promised to leave and do what ever you do when you are not trolling bitcoin community [16:07]
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mircea_popescu now he is coding a world best web site? << maybe he's pasting stuff from the interwebs [16:41]
mircea_popescu will you hire me for a per line project? << yes. five cents :D [16:43]
kakobrekla comments included? [16:43]
PsychoticBoy OMG the saga continues [16:44]
Diablo-D3 5 cents? [16:44]
Diablo-D3 jesus [16:44]
Diablo-D3 wait, what sort of line? java line or perl line? [16:44]
kakobrekla im counting on comments. [16:45]
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kakobrekla oh great even blank lines count. [16:50]
Diablo-D3 SLOC meansno comments or blank lines [16:52]
Diablo-D3 doesnt mean I cant use abusively weird formatting though [16:52]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121622.msg1344982#msg1344982 [16:52]
mircea_popescu kinda related. [16:52]
kakobrekla hrm [16:53]
kakobrekla >but the most common definition of physical SLOC is a count of lines in the text of the program's source code including comment lines. Blank lines are also included unless the lines of code in a section consists of more than 25% blank lines. In this case blank lines in excess of 25% are not counted toward lines of code. [16:53]
Diablo-D3 well [16:53]
Diablo-D3 the real sloc method is just using sloccount [16:53]
pigeons anyway it would cost professionals $300K to write that many SLOC! [16:53]
mircea_popescu ffs srsly, who came up with bragging about this ? the only time sloc/loc is relevant is if you're trying to determine how much old pos code will cost to maintain [16:53]
Diablo-D3 never try to do it by hand [16:53]
mircea_popescu they're a liability not something to be proud of [16:53]
Diablo-D3 pigeons: how many? [16:53]
pigeons Diablo-D3: usagi said $300K [16:53]
Diablo-D3 no how many sloc [16:54]
kakobrekla i dont give a fuck im just trying to get payed for excessive commenting. [16:54]
pigeons 10000 SLC [16:54]
mircea_popescu paid. [16:54]
Diablo-D3 10k? wtf. [16:54]
kakobrekla paid [16:54]
Diablo-D3 I've done 10k in a fucking weekend [16:54]
Diablo-D3 people need to learn how the fuck software development works [16:54]
* mircea_popescu inb4 "i've done that many on a girl's backside" [16:54]
Diablo-D3 no, thats just you mircea_popescu [16:54]
mircea_popescu tbh, i prefer the thigh and i don't think i've done fifty lines yet. [16:55]
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* jurov was a bit slow on uptake what "lines" mircea meant [18:29]
jurov hahahaha [18:29]
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temp_kluge Could someone remind me what the gribble command is to do lastseen? I thought it was ;;lastseen username [18:58]
kakobrekla ;;seen gribble [18:59]
gribble I have not seen gribble. [18:59]
temp_kluge Thank you [19:00]
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temp_kluge Oh. guruvan hasn't been around in a long while. [19:01]
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temp_kluge Someone bored and wanna see if they can ssh into 199.27.134.223? [19:01]
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jurov i can't [19:05]
jurov at leas not port 22 [19:05]
temp_kluge That's the port # I tried. [19:06]
temp_kluge But I didn't know if it was my mobile tether of 44kbps fucking up or not. :) [19:06]
temp_kluge Anyway - that's the address which came up for GLBSE. Maybe Nefario is really worried about the legality of releasing asset info. [19:07]
jurov what does it have with ssh? [19:08]
temp_kluge Idunno. Futzing around, wondering if Nefario may've left everything wide open to evade liability. [19:09]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121622.msg1345365#msg1345365 [21:35]
mircea_popescu the forum delivers. [21:35]
Namjies Hey, if it was Mad Max, would sound fine, but it's a *MAD* Mad Max [21:43]
Namjies Proof: He wants to accept Paypal for a bitcoin casino?!? [21:44]
mircea_popescu the funny thing is, [21:45]
mircea_popescu he's all pretentious and talks shit to mpoe-pr ?! [21:45]
mod6 lol first bitcoin casino on the internet my ass [21:53]
mircea_popescu nono you don't understand [21:53]
mircea_popescu unique snowflake mode ENGAGE [21:53]
mod6 haha [21:54]
mircea_popescu btw mod6 there's something i wanted to talk to you about. we could like, make this site right ? except not really a site, more like some servers [21:57]
mod6 and yeah, .onion bitcoin casinos were pretty awesome in mid-2011, at least playable anyway. [21:57]
mircea_popescu and then people could connect to them and chat. [21:57]
mircea_popescu it would be the first chat system on the internet [21:57]
mod6 not just text either, and then seals with clubs [21:57]
mod6 thats regular intarweb tho [21:57]
mod6 oh. [21:58]
mod6 right on. [21:58]
mod6 i used to run a silc server back in the day. [21:58]
mod6 we all liked it a lot -- its all encrypted by default, etc [21:59]
mod6 could be an interesting multi-node network or something that could be apart from openprojects [21:59]
mod6 err freenode [21:59]
mircea_popescu wasn't the encryption weak tho ? [21:59]
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mircea_popescu in silc i mean [21:59]
mod6 im not sure it was weak -- per-se...i remember it being based on asymmetric algos [22:00]
mircea_popescu i have but vague recollections. [22:00]
mod6 i'd have to look quick --- haven't looked at it in some time... there might be something better if that's kinda what you were gettin at. [22:00]
mircea_popescu The SILC implementation of its own spec is poor in that it is vulnerable to weak authentication which undermines any strong encryption it might have. For example, it is impossible to differentiate between two users whose keys you have verified before. If you verify these two user’s keys, and one of those users decides to impersonate the other one, SILC will happily continue without even mentioning this appalling situ [22:01]
mircea_popescu ation. [22:01]
mircea_popescu ya right i was. [22:01]
mircea_popescu https://we.riseup.net/riseup+tech/problems-with-silc [22:01]
mod6 ahhh [22:02]
* mod6 looks [22:02]
mircea_popescu i never used it, but i recall vaguely it was because tech gave it a neg report. this was years ago [22:03]
mod6 yeah, i guess I was using it like prior to 2004 [22:03]
mircea_popescu funny how ancient that is huh. [22:03]
mod6 anyway, there are other ways if that's the overall goal though [22:03]
mircea_popescu im relatively happy with otr tbh. [22:04]
mod6 hhaha, ikr! like 100,000,000 internet years [22:04]
mircea_popescu not that i need that much secrecy anyway. da fuck are they gonna expose, my private flirting with internet womenz ? [22:04]
mod6 haha. i thought perhaps some of the auth stuff could be built into a sortof OTC login model we're doing with gribble... [22:05]
mod6 i dunno, just a thought of a different way to get everyone auth'd on the same host with their keys without having to rely on a bot or 3rd party app [22:05]
mod6 food for thought i guess. right now though, it works pretty krad. :] [22:06]
mircea_popescu im kinda curious how wot2.0 will be so [22:07]
mod6 yeah, that'll be awesome [22:09]
mod6 be back in a min here... [22:09]
pigeons mircea_popescu: any word from harnett's employers [22:13]
mircea_popescu not so far actually. [22:14]
mircea_popescu which seems kinda odd. but hey, give them a week or w/e [22:14]
mircea_popescu in other news, both cryptoexchange and intersangro are closing, pretty soon we'll be exchangeless at this rate. [22:16]
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Namjies mircea, somehow, when trying to do a MKOPT, it returns "You need at least 0.00000000 BTC to cover these." [22:20]
mircea_popescu Also, fair warning - next week I'll be travelling to Macau, the gambling capital of Asia, to present at a gaming conference. I'll be showing SatoshiDICE to many people, including gambling entrepreneurs and business men. [22:20]
mircea_popescu It is possible that certain business deals could happen as a result of this trip. If you were considering buying shares of S.DICE, you may want to do it quickly. Who knows what a rich Macau gambling magnate might think of a system which allows wagering in any amount, from anywhere in the world, anonymously... [22:20]
mircea_popescu says evoorhees [22:20]
mircea_popescu Namjies that's odd... [22:21]
* mircea_popescu looks [22:21]
Namjies Aye, thanks [22:21]
mircea_popescu Namjies : retry. [22:23]
mircea_popescu (desync with trade db) [22:23]
Namjies odd... tells me I need much more than expected [22:24]
Namjies isn't put option strike/spot? [22:24]
Namjies and fee 2%? [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00050221 = 18.0796 BTC [-] [22:25]
mircea_popescu no, it's not / spot. it's / some risk adjusted value [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5222 @ 0.00050225 = 2.6227 BTC [+] [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6499 @ 0.00050229 = 3.2644 BTC [+] [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8629 @ 0.00050232 = 4.3345 BTC [+] [22:25]
mircea_popescu close to the average tho. [22:25]
mircea_popescu so it shouldnt be MUCH more than you expect. maybe a little more [22:26]
Namjies gives me 10% extra (excluding 2% fee) [22:27]
Namjies looks pretty high a fee [22:28]
smickles http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/the-ponzi-of-wikipedia-and-bitcoin/ [22:29]
smickles for your reading pleasure :D [22:29]
smickles mircea_popescu: You're going to be the guy presenting sdice to Macau? [22:30]
mircea_popescu nope ? [22:30]
mircea_popescu i'm too old to be going for these tricks, getting arrested in macau and whatnot. [22:30]
smickles oh, you were quoting someone then [22:30]
mircea_popescu Namjies it wouldn't be a fee tho, the fee is 2%. the collateral oyu get back. [22:31]
mircea_popescu smickles evoorhees [22:31]
smickles that make sense [22:31]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1345687#msg1345687 [22:31]
Namjies eh, sorry, extra collateral [22:31]
Diablo-D3 well [22:33]
Diablo-D3 it took me two days [22:33]
Diablo-D3 but Ive rewritten half of diablominer and modularized the internals [22:34]
mircea_popescu Namjies prolly best idea is to do very small bits first, get a good feel of how it works. [22:34]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126616.msg1344098#msg1344098 umm. [22:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130N] 214 @ 0.25593421 = 54.7699 BTC [-] [22:34]
mircea_popescu I can't stop with the satoshidice. That game is evil. I really thought I was going to hit "big" one day. Every time I would hit big, the standard would raise until I lost control. Big became bigger. I was paying every loan off quickly and was satisfied with the profits + 10 to 20btc. [22:35]
Namjies I understand how it works... [22:35]
Namjies I wasn't aware the collateral was adjusted [22:36]
Namjies By such a big margin [22:36]
pigeons beta options at weexchange.co are also 10% [22:37]
Namjies lol... I had funds loaned to Lurk on BTCJam multiple times [22:37]
Namjies I had them all repaid however [22:37]
mircea_popescu btcjam debt = 92.25btc [22:37]
mircea_popescu there kakobrekla, that's 100 btc that won't be repaid. [22:37]
mircea_popescu pigeons o, they're doing options ? [22:38]
pigeons mircea_popescu: yes [22:38]
mircea_popescu cool. [22:38]
pigeons just started, still testing [22:38]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu not my money. [22:38]
mircea_popescu all i see is a login page. but anyway. [22:38]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla was re Nov 19 00:35:52 at least 65 of em [22:40]
Namjies Well, at least he's honest about it. [22:40]
mircea_popescu Namjies that's a point. [22:40]
mircea_popescu he's not even so bad in the hole, coupla hundred btc big deal. he can make that in a month. [22:40]
Namjies If he had a job. He's unemployed apparently [22:41]
mircea_popescu Total Transactions 12445 [22:41]
mircea_popescu Total Received 16161.82241607 BTC [22:41]
mircea_popescu Total Sent 16161.82093528 BTC [22:41]
mircea_popescu holy fucking cow [22:42]
mircea_popescu he's under by like... 1% ? [22:42]
mircea_popescu that's nothing. [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4860 @ 0.00339922 = 16.5202 BTC [-] [22:43]
pigeons your pumping is working [22:44]
mircea_popescu hahaha cool. [22:44]
mircea_popescu (i was pumping ?) [22:44]
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pigeons ;) [22:44]
Namjies Great. Sold a few options [22:45]
Namjies There's nice PUT bids right now [22:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8500 @ 0.00339922 = 28.8934 BTC [-] [22:45]
Namjies Many 5-15% margin on PUTs for next month [22:46]
Namjies With the reward halving coming up [22:46]
mircea_popescu you figure price drops in dec ? [22:46]
Namjies No, raise. [22:47]
Namjies Or keep stable at least [22:47]
mircea_popescu o, selling puts. yeah. [22:47]
Namjies There's thousands of bids for puts with 0.05 - 0.15 BTC over their current execution value [22:48]
Namjies A good net against a price drop and if price stay stable or raises with reward halving, the margin could increase. [22:49]
mircea_popescu next month ? sure. [22:49]
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Namjies Well honestly, I'd always feel much safer going with selling PUTs for over their execution price [22:50]
Namjies price sometimes drop but eh [22:50]
mircea_popescu selling puts is a pretty reasonable way to protect yourself if you have $ and want btc. [22:51]
mircea_popescu (if the price drops you lose on the puts but can buy the btc cheaper. if not you make btc) [22:51]
Namjies Aye [22:52]
mircea_popescu which actually i guess is a position many people are in. [22:52]
Namjies I don't see why those PUT bids stay around for so long [22:54]
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Namjies On another note, apparently, bASIC is shipping... [22:57]
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mircea_popescu "An estimated 84 percent of coinstar users are women". Not going to comment on this one. [22:57]
mircea_popescu what do you mean stay around ? [22:58]
Namjies That people don't sell into them. I barely see any volume. [22:58]
mircea_popescu Nov 18 22:02:22 [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.88032553 = 880.3255 BTC [-] [23:01]
mircea_popescu sorta thing [23:01]
Namjies Yeah, there's a few [23:03]
Namjies But not much compared to all the bids available [23:03]
Namjies especially for the ones expiring next month [23:03]
Namjies which have higher margins [23:03]
mircea_popescu well i don't much expect the bot getting sold out [23:04]
mircea_popescu in fact the situation this month where calls got wiped is singular, never happened before. [23:04]
Namjies smickles [23:07]
Namjies About qualifying Bitcoin as a ponzi because it advantages early adopters. [23:08]
mircea_popescu lol. fucking hell, when you'rte born people already have dollars [23:10]
mircea_popescu then you have to work to get them' [23:10]
mircea_popescu PONZI [23:10]
Namjies Has anyone brought the stocks arguments yet? With example such as the $10000 Microsoft stake bought at IPO example? [23:11]
mircea_popescu i don't think many people give two shits about wikipedia [23:11]
Namjies But in any case, the article says Bitcoin has been accused of being a ponzi... not that it meets the definition of a ponzi. [23:13]
Namjies Which is, technically, very true. [23:13]
mircea_popescu well by this measure Bush was accused of being a reptillian [23:14]
Namjies I don't see any problem with that saying. [23:14]
Namjies You can say something is anything, and then go around saying that something has been accused of that anything. [23:15]
Namjies The accusation is a fact. If what you're accused of is true is not a fact. [23:16]
mircea_popescu ya well not all this spam is worth the mention i'd think. [23:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17171 @ 0.00050232 = 8.6253 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8674 @ 0.0005024 = 4.3578 BTC [+] [23:21]
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pigeons lol at people telling the compulsive gambler he should try willpower and what he needs to do is "just say no" [23:38]
smickles jeebus, connection issues [23:40]
smickles Namjies: yes [23:43]
smickles ^ re: < Namjies> Has anyone brought the stocks arguments yet? With example such as the $10000 Microsoft stake bought at IPO example? [23:43]
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mircea_popescu pigeons he can do anything! [23:51]
smickles < pigeons> your pumping is working << naw, if anyone one it was me :P [23:52]
mircea_popescu you were pumpin ? [23:52]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126703.msg1345683#msg1345683 [23:52]
mircea_popescu fucking scammer heaven [23:53]
smickles eh, not really, but remember i pointed out teh 1% gain possible [23:53]
smickles at dividends [23:53]
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