Forum logs for 19 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

Chaang-Noi	49.64 )	[00:00]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 50	[00:00]
kakobrekla	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png	[00:00]
gribble	There are currently 15706.82 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 784550.15041 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 21.4370 seconds	[00:00]
Chaang-Noi	if we eat 50 no stopping us until 80	[00:01]
deadweasel	kakobrekla, that's a hell of a wall at 50	[00:01]
kakobrekla	well dude's got balls	[00:01]
Chaang-Noi	49.7	[00:01]
deadweasel	"/msg Chaang-Noi ;;ticker"	[00:02]
kakobrekla	;;bc,convert eur	[00:02]
gribble	1 BTC = 48.99239 U.S. dollars = 37.7852769 Euros	[00:02]
Uglux	what was the ATH exactly?	[00:02]
deadweasel	jk Chaang-Noi	[00:02]
Chaang-Noi	;D im happy at ATH'z	[00:02]
Chaang-Noi	ATH is all time high	[00:02]
Uglux	yeaaa, the number plz	[00:03]
Chaang-Noi	49.7	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla who actually can take out 3/4 mn usd fgrom mthox ?	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	it would take what, 2-3 years to make it through ?	[00:03]
deadweasel	;;yeaaa, the number plz	[00:03]
gribble	Error: "yeaaa," is not a valid command.	[00:03]
Bugpowder	they raised my limit to 50k overnight	[00:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	50k < 783k	[00:04]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu i dunno, but it has to be done	[00:04]
Chaang-Noi	total bid: 8,389,663 USD \| total ask: 82,782 BTC \| ratio: 101.35 USD/BTC	[00:04]
Bugpowder	Trusted accounts can withdraw 50k at a time, 500k / mo	[00:05]
pizzaman1337	;;ticker --last	[00:05]
gribble	48.99239	[00:05]
Chaang-Noi	crash, back down to 32 :)	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	its incredible just how inadequate fiat is when one looks from the vantage of btc	[00:06]
Bugpowder	correction $100k max wire size per day with trusted	[00:07]
deadweasel	you should tell sgornick that mp	[00:08]
deadweasel	he would smile	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[00:08]
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mircea_popescu	Bugpowder ya but how long it actually takes is the q.	[00:08]
Chaang-Noi	;;goxlag	[00:08]
gribble	37.90441 seconds	[00:08]
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Bugpowder	Sub 10k wires have been arriving in 48 hours for me	[00:09]
Bugpowder	100k might take 2 weeks	[00:09]
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Bugpowder	or 2 days	[00:09]
Chaang-Noi	you buying at these prices bug?	[00:10]
Bugpowder	no	[00:10]
Bugpowder	I have some coins there	[00:11]
Bugpowder	but I just want to get my Tesla	[00:11]
Bugpowder	:)	[00:11]
Chaang-Noi	nice	[00:11]
Bugpowder	I mean my fiat there	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	haha he's buying a new juicer	[00:11]
Bugpowder	I think I'm holding the rest	[00:11]
Bugpowder	for a while	[00:11]
Bugpowder	No matter what happens now, I made at least 18x.	[00:12]
Bugpowder	Hopefully coins continue to rise	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	18x is a good make to make.	[00:12]
deadweasel	well i hope you started with a lot!	[00:13]
Bugpowder	Every 5-10 years there is an investment that is just so fucking obvious	[00:13]
Bugpowder	You gotta pull the trigger	[00:13]
Bugpowder	Bitcoins at $2, after being at $31, was a great example	[00:13]
toffoo	things always look obvious in retrospect ;)	[00:13]
Bugpowder	It seemed obvious then	[00:14]
Bugpowder	from a risk reward	[00:14]
Bugpowder	not obvious that it was going to 50	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	it did seem obvious.	[00:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.000697 = 4.9487 BTC [-]	[00:14]
Bugpowder	but an EV analysis I drew up showed something like 5-10x EV	[00:14]
Bugpowder	which was clearly too conservative	[00:15]
Bugpowder	Sorta like F at $1.	[00:15]
Bugpowder	It wasn't obvious it would bounce to $15	[00:15]
toffoo	i wouldn't call that one obvious ...	[00:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.BBET] 5000 @ 0.0018 = 9 BTC [+]	[00:15]
Bugpowder	but EV was positive	[00:15]
deadweasel	F?	[00:15]
mod6	ford	[00:16]
Bugpowder	Ford	[00:16]
deadweasel	da	[00:16]
toffoo	it's two competitors were bankrupt and under the government's control	[00:16]
Bugpowder	I did not pull the trigger there.	[00:16]
toffoo	maybe you know more about the car business than the average guy	[00:16]
pigeons	need a fan club passthrough for this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147552.msg1566741#msg1566741	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.bbet	[00:16]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)	[00:16]
Bugpowder	Friend of dad who had lost most of his money in the market did an EV analysis... Went all in with the rest of life savings	[00:16]
Bugpowder	made it all back.	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	o srsly ?	[00:17]
Bugpowder	hail mary play	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	cool!	[00:17]
Bugpowder	on F	[00:17]
Bugpowder	He sold at 4.	[00:17]
Bugpowder	heheheh	[00:17]
Bugpowder	oops	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	o lol	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	pigeons he has the right idea, borrow the bubble.	[00:18]
Bugpowder	dinnertime	[00:18]
deadweasel	4x	[00:18]
deadweasel	vs 18x	[00:18]
deadweasel	enjoy you dinner!	[00:18]
deadweasel	*r	[00:18]
Bugpowder	deadweasel: max(18x, 18x+n*x) where n =[0-1000]	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	venturebeat : embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back. matonis : Tradehill Launches As Bitcoin Exchange For Businesses And Accredited Investors	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	i guess optimism is a wonderful gift.	[00:19]
deadweasel	right, his was free	[00:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P510T] 1 @ 0.12177158 BTC [-]	[00:21]
Chaang-Noi	mp in a bull market it is	[00:21]
kakobrekla	no no Chaang-Noi	[00:22]
kakobrekla	its 'irrational'.	[00:22]
Chaang-Noi	some times better to be lucky/crazy than smart	[00:22]
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mod6	Krugman and Bernanke have phd's lol	[00:23]
pigeons	wtf is a curation consultant	[00:23]
Chaang-Noi	no idea	[00:24]
jurov	;;bc,convert, eur	[00:24]
gribble	Error: "bc,convert," is not a valid command.	[00:24]
jurov	;;bc,convert eur	[00:24]
gribble	1 BTC = 49.49002 U.S. dollars = 38.169073 Euros	[00:24]
pigeons	smells like something a ycombinator company would have	[00:24]
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smickles	did we pop 50 or something?	[00:25]
smickles	;;ticker	[00:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.26107, Best ask: 49.49000, Bid-ask spread: 0.22893, Last trade: 49.26107, 24 hour volume: 45708.72214983, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.26314	[00:26]
jurov	;;asks 50	[00:26]
gribble	There are currently 15875.704 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 792726.780924 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 117.4680 seconds	[00:26]
deadweasel	bugpowder: http://www4c.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP206621f5c2f1db8535a3000038g4ed53b9h0cdgd?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=48&w=367.&h=57.	[00:26]
smickles	$vwap ^oix	[00:27]
mpexbot	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34905862 high: 57.74756063 low: 37.79100251 volume: 35646 btc: 4872.55462737 30 day: no data	[00:27]
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Chaang-Noi	less than a million of soon to be fiat to go	[00:27]
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jurov	$markov	[00:33]
mpexbot	but... i saw porn on there :(	[00:33]
jurov	you bet	[00:33]
smickles	$markov jurov	[00:35]
mpexbot	jurov because a. its much easier to parse and b. because the bot	[00:35]
jurov	$markov smickles	[00:36]
mpexbot	smickles that film... you should totally watch it.	[00:36]
jurov	$markov s.dice	[00:36]
mpexbot	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[00:36]
smickles	it'll get better with time	[00:36]
pigeons	$markov zhoutong	[00:36]
mpexbot	pigeons: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[00:36]
jurov	i hope for succinct prediction :/	[00:36]
Bugpowder	deadweasel: ok.....	[00:36]
smickles	$markov [MPEX:S.DICE]	[00:36]
mpexbot	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[00:36]
deadweasel	Bugpowder: yeah, no I have no idea at all	[00:37]
jurov	$markov eskimobob	[00:37]
mpexbot	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[00:37]
smickles	$markov [MPEX] [S.DICE]	[00:37]
mpexbot	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[00:37]
smickles	bah	[00:37]
jurov	i broke it	[00:37]
smickles	$markov i hope	[00:38]
mpexbot	smickles: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[00:38]
smickles	D:	[00:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 1 @ 0.06562237 BTC [-]	[00:38]
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smickles	;;calc 51 - 1.065	[00:39]
gribble	49.935	[00:39]
smickles	er, wrong one	[00:39]
smickles	;;calc 51/(1-.065)	[00:39]
gribble	54.5454545455	[00:39]
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ThickAsThieves	;;estimate	[00:41]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[00:41]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.49999, Best ask: 49.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.49999, 24 hour volume: 47889.07477187, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.32588	[00:41]
gribble	Next difficulty estimate \| 6247626.80304 based on data since last change \| 6547204.92104 based on data for last three days	[00:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 1 @ 0.08408666 BTC [-]	[00:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00431 BTC [-]	[00:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0043 = 0.086 BTC [-]	[00:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00426 BTC [-]	[00:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 9 @ 0.0041 = 0.0369 BTC [-]	[00:41]
smickles	;;calc 49/(1/.084)	[00:42]
gribble	4.116	[00:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.334 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3337 BTC [-]	[00:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3332 BTC [-]	[00:42]
smickles	;;calc 49/(1-.084)	[00:42]
gribble	53.4934497817	[00:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.000697 = 3.3456 BTC [-]	[00:43]
kakobrekla	;;ticker	[00:43]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.50001, Best ask: 49.50002, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 49.50002, 24 hour volume: 48101.89622656, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.79000, 24 hour vwap: 48.33148	[00:44]
smickles	;;bc,24hprc	[00:45]
gribble	47.96	[00:45]
smickles	;;calc [bc,24hprc]/[ticker --last]	[00:45]
gribble	0.968888693154	[00:45]
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smickles	at what point do we start seeing that 'buy/sell out mpoebot' trader	[00:47]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13443 @ 0.000697 = 9.3698 BTC [-]	[00:47]
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mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/steganography-or-the-simple-yet-strong-brain-wallet/	[00:51]
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smickles	mircea_popescu: dammit man, stop publishing my ideas	[00:56]
smickles	;)	[00:56]
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mircea_popescu	hahaha	[00:56]
mircea_popescu	strawberries smickles	[00:56]
smickles	mircea_popescu: this is all getting into indiana jones territory. soon enough you'll have to be at 'the spot where the sun is at such an angel in sky on this day of the year and casts a shadow to your feet. turn left, take a pic of the mountian and pump that pic into the script where you enter "david duchovny" 6 times'	[00:59]
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mircea_popescu	absolutely.	[00:59]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back	[01:00]
mircea_popescu	i loved those when i was 12	[01:00]
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kakobrekla	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png	[01:06]
kakobrekla	plot gets thinner	[01:06]
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mod6	(16:00) < mircea_popescu> bitcoin is - among other things - bringing pirate maps back << YES!!	[01:07]
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mircea_popescu	:D	[01:08]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10110 @ 0.00071781 = 7.2571 BTC [+]	[01:09]
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pigeons	https://sites.google.com/site/buriedkeys/	[01:11]
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ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[01:13]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025	[01:13]
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ThickAsThieves	;;asks 49.99	[01:14]
gribble	There are currently 1456.6221 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 72734.4782962 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 40.4732 seconds	[01:14]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154518.msg1638361#msg1638361	[01:15]
mircea_popescu	ouch	[01:15]
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mod6	that's neat pigeons	[01:16]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[01:18]
smickles	;;asks 49.99	[01:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.71230, Best ask: 49.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08770, Last trade: 49.71230, 24 hour volume: 49314.22508067, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.80000, 24 hour vwap: 48.37025	[01:18]
gribble	There are currently 384.75233 bitcoins offered at or under 49.99 USD, worth 19225.9672632 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.3233 seconds	[01:18]
smickles	;;goxlag	[01:18]
gribble	5.363153 seconds	[01:18]
ThickAsThieves	49.95	[01:18]
ThickAsThieves	.97	[01:18]
ThickAsThieves	.98	[01:18]
ThickAsThieves	.99	[01:18]
ThickAsThieves	50	[01:19]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[01:19]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539	[01:19]
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ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[01:19]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539	[01:19]
ThickAsThieves	saw 50 on coinlab ticker	[01:20]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[01:20]
dub	;;ticker	[01:20]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539	[01:20]
mircea_popescu	fancy wallstreet prices	[01:20]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539	[01:20]
kakobrekla	:D	[01:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C470T] 1 @ 0.10841351 BTC [-]	[01:20]
dub	says 50 on goxlive	[01:20]
smickles	;;calc 1/(1-.1084)	[01:20]
gribble	1.12157918349	[01:20]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[01:20]
gribble	46.263792 seconds	[01:20]
smickles	;;calc 47/(1-.1084)	[01:21]
gribble	52.714221624	[01:21]
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deadweasel	was the solution for sdice to split off transactions into entire blocks?	[01:22]
deadweasel	that's what it looks like on https://blockchain.info/	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[01:23]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.55001, Best ask: 49.71229, Bid-ask spread: 0.16228, Last trade: 49.55001, 24 hour volume: 51864.42162892, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 49.94900, 24 hour vwap: 48.43539	[01:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C450T] 1 @ 0.13772223 BTC [+]	[01:25]
kakobrekla	;;ticker	[01:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496	[01:26]
ThickAsThieves	50.01	[01:26]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[01:26]
deadweasel	it almost feels like classical conditioning	[01:27]
deadweasel	these waves in prices	[01:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.0007453 = 3.6967 BTC [+]	[01:27]
Bugpowder	Poppin bottles!	[01:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.2 BTC [+]	[01:27]
Bugpowder	;;ticker	[01:28]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496	[01:28]
Bugpowder	wat?	[01:28]
Bugpowder	I'm seeing 50.05	[01:29]
pizzaman1337	market manipulation!	[01:29]
kakobrekla	gribble iz slow	[01:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 8 @ 0.0441449 = 0.3532 BTC [-]	[01:29]
Bugpowder	I assume there is some panic buying goxlag	[01:30]
Bugpowder	bitcoin charts has it at 50.20	[01:30]
pizzaman1337	;;goxlag	[01:30]
gribble	44.343507 seconds	[01:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8402 BTC [-]	[01:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.8401 = 3.3604 BTC [-]	[01:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.84 = 5.04 BTC [-]	[01:30]
Bugpowder	;;ticker	[01:30]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 49.78232, Best ask: 49.98998, Bid-ask spread: 0.20766, Last trade: 49.71229, 24 hour volume: 54635.61117328, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 50.00000, 24 hour vwap: 48.51496	[01:30]
Bugpowder	heh... that is STALE	[01:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10675 = 26.6875 BTC [+]	[01:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 750 @ 0.10948345 = 82.1126 BTC [+]	[01:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C510T] 250 @ 0.10948345 = 27.3709 BTC [+]	[01:33]
benkay	;;goxlag	[01:33]
gribble	0.360978 seconds	[01:33]
kakobrekla	;;cakc ;;goxlag/3600	[01:34]
gribble	Error: "cakc" is not a valid command.	[01:34]
kakobrekla	for more convinient format	[01:34]
kakobrekla	cakc right.	[01:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490T] 500 @ 0.12927863 = 64.6393 BTC [+]	[01:34]
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Bowjob	meow	[01:35]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[01:35]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 51.00001, Best ask: 51.01000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 51.00000, 24 hour volume: 59546.54465887, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 51.01000, 24 hour vwap: 48.67395	[01:35]
Bowjob	*yawn	[01:36]
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pizzaman1337	$51? zomg	[01:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C410T] 4 @ 0.23958397 = 0.9583 BTC [+]	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	lol!	[01:36]
mircea_popescu	this is le excitingque	[01:36]
Bowjob	well, cyprus	[01:36]
Bowjob	lol	[01:36]
Bowjob	in anything, TA is bullshit	[01:37]
deadweasel	mp go pay bitbet nao~!	[01:37]
deadweasel	it almost feels like classical conditioning0	[01:37]
mircea_popescu	lol	[01:37]
deadweasel	oops jk	[01:37]
kakobrekla	i have been saying this for a while now, the more world goes to shit, the better for btc	[01:37]
Bowjob	fundamentals beats all!	[01:37]
Bowjob	we are the new wealthy elite	[01:37]
Bowjob	im just gonna sit this out, waiting for my avalon	[01:38]
Bowjob	we just rboke 52	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	nowai ?!	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[01:38]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 52.00000, Best ask: 52.12000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 52.00000, 24 hour volume: 61002.40967740, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.74625	[01:38]
mircea_popescu	this is going to 100	[01:38]
kakobrekla	;;goxlag	[01:39]
gribble	2.173409 seconds	[01:39]
kakobrekla	WE NEED MOAR LAG!!!	[01:39]
Bowjob	just watch the price here	[01:39]
Bowjob	in real time	[01:39]
Bowjob	http://coinlab.com/	[01:39]
deadweasel	lol	[01:39]
Bowjob	the orderbook is skewed	[01:39]
Bowjob	not enough coins	[01:39]
ThickAsThieves	so the big 50 wall was a fake	[01:39]
Bowjob	was it fake or eaten	[01:39]
ThickAsThieves	dunno	[01:39]
kakobrekla	it was take out in 2 steps today	[01:39]
kakobrekla	taken	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	part eaten taken off	[01:40]
deadweasel	you shouldn't eat so much, kakobrekla	[01:40]
deadweasel	on nm	[01:40]
Bowjob	some people seem to be dumping	[01:40]
Bowjob	lol	[01:40]
kakobrekla	deadweasel im full :p	[01:40]
deadweasel	of bitcoins	[01:40]
ThickAsThieves	wow	[01:40]
Bowjob	i welcome you, my cyprus and spanish friends	[01:40]
deadweasel	worth 50+	[01:40]
Bugpowder	52	[01:40]
deadweasel	i'm 1/4 spanish	[01:40]
deadweasel	52.12! no way this holds	[01:41]
kakobrekla	meanwhile in antartica: ltc down to 0.01	[01:41]
deadweasel	panic selling t-minus some seconds	[01:41]
Bugpowder	nah dude	[01:42]
Bugpowder	this is moving up	[01:42]
Bowjob	fuck this shit im cancelling LTC	[01:42]
benkay	oh bowjob	[01:42]
benkay	trading your emotions	[01:42]
benkay	that's cute	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[01:42]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 52.10000, Best ask: 52.11999, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 52.10000, 24 hour volume: 61104.42476205, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.12000, 24 hour vwap: 48.75342	[01:42]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136365020251.png	[01:44]
mircea_popescu	for the win	[01:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00075127 = 8.4894 BTC [+]	[01:44]
Bugpowder	;;bids 50	[01:44]
gribble	There are currently 6286.4465 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 315601.470911 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 44.1438 seconds	[01:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00076717 = 1.1408 BTC [+]	[01:44]
Bugpowder	;;bids 49	[01:44]
gribble	There are currently 7952.6316 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.0 USD, worth 397741.218334 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 53.4991 seconds	[01:44]
Bugpowder	not a bad wall	[01:44]
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deadweasel	;;ticker --last	[01:46]
gribble	52.10000	[01:46]
benkay	;;goxlag	[01:47]
gribble	54.463538 seconds	[01:47]
benkay	ho ho ho	[01:47]
mod6	merry lag time	[01:47]
mircea_popescu	“We want to be the grownups in the Bitcoin space,” said chief operating officer Ryan Singer in an interview.	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/#kOC57bZHlphBM98A.99	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	ahaha fuckwits.	[01:48]
benkay	californians, man	[01:48]
benkay	second only to new yorkers in arrogant fuckery	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	fucking tradition in bitcoin, retards posturing as ":the adults:"	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	bitcoinica consultancy ? check.	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	coinfail ? check	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	tradehill ? check.	[01:49]
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mircea_popescu	next kludge is going to come back from the dead wanting to be the adult in bitcoin or some shit.	[01:49]
mircea_popescu	maybe bruce wagner too.	[01:49]
benkay	it's how you raise capital	[01:50]
Bowjob	yawn	[01:50]
benkay	pretend to be awesome	[01:50]
benkay	hustle ferociously	[01:50]
benkay	disregard the truth	[01:50]
kakobrekla	im not concered	[01:50]
kakobrekla	they are in merrica	[01:50]
kakobrekla	they will get selffucked	[01:50]
Bugpowder	what the fuck is up with their photos	[01:51]
Bugpowder	so unprofessional	[01:51]
benkay	i don't understand the fixation with exchanges.	[01:51]
Bugpowder	I see they swapped out the original	[01:51]
Bugpowder	which was them looking hammered, holding a drink	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	benkay it's like the notion that bitcoi nwill grow through retail adoption	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	people focus on what they can understand easily.	[01:51]
benkay	derp harder, oh my countrymen	[01:51]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder shh, adult photos!	[01:51]
Bugpowder	like WTF	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[01:52]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 51.73600, Best ask: 51.93701, Bid-ask spread: 0.20101, Last trade: 51.73801, 24 hour volume: 64139.42338876, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 48.93122	[01:52]
Bugpowder	wear a fucking suit for your fucking presentation to the world dipshits	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	53 about to gho	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder the only thing the rental store had was a pink tux and a strapless sperm-white gucci dress	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	well... guggi.	[01:53]
parseval	huh.. http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html	[01:53]
parseval	FinCEN's statement on applicability of regulations to virtual currencies, posted today	[01:54]
kakobrekla	anyone singed up for that prime idiotism?	[01:54]
benkay	where did you find that, parseval?	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	parseval o hery, big deal.	[01:54]
parseval	It was on reddit	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	This guidance refers to the participants in generic virtual currency arrangements, using the terms "user," "exchanger," and "administrator."6 A user is a person that obtains virtual currency to purchase goods or services.7 An exchanger is a person engaged as a business in the exchange of virtual currency for real currency, funds, or other virtual currency. An administrator is a person engaged as a business in issuing (	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	putting into circulation) a virtual currency, and who has the authority to redeem (to withdraw from circulation) such virtual currency.	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	they blew it.	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	mpex still extempt.	[01:55]
parseval	See part C	[01:55]
parseval	A final type of convertible virtual currency activity involves a de-centralized convertible virtual currency (1) that has no central repository and no single administrator, and (2) that persons may obtain by their own computing or manufacturing effort.	[01:55]
parseval	A person that creates units of this convertible virtual currency and uses it to purchase real or virtual goods and services is a user of the convertible virtual currency and not subject to regulation as a money transmitter. By contrast, a person that creates units of convertible virtual currency and sells those units to another person for real currency or its equivalent is engaged in transmission to another location	[01:55]
parseval	and is a money transmitter. In addition, a person is an exchanger and a money transmitter if the person accepts such de-centralized convertible virtual currency from one person and transmits it to another person as part of the acceptance and transfer of currency, funds, or other value that substitutes for currency.	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	nope.	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	to be an administrator it substantively requires you have the ability to withdraw units.	[01:56]
parseval	Looks like MtGox is getting out just in time	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	to be a transmitter it substantively requires you blabla as part of acceptance/transfer of funds/currency/etc.	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	but yes.	[01:57]
Bowjob	we can reach $58 if	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	pretty much all exchanges have an issue nao.	[01:57]
Bowjob	theres $500k	[01:57]
Bowjob	damn	[01:57]
Bowjob	hahaha'	[01:57]
parseval	You have to follow the BSA as a transmitter	[01:57]
parseval	Which means all sorts of recordkeeping and reporting regulations	[01:58]
smickles	looks like they are trying to say anyone who buys or sells bitcoin for fiat is a money transmitter	[01:58]
smickles	so all users of any exchange	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	A person must exchange the currency of two or more countries to be considered a dealer in foreign exchange.19 Virtual currency does not meet the criteria to be considered "currency" under the BSA, because it is not legal tender. Therefore, a person who accepts real currency in exchange for virtual currency, or vice versa, is not a dealer in foreign exchange under FinCEN's regulations.	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	this is pretty good.	[01:58]
parseval	Oh, nice, I missed that part	[01:59]
smickles	not foex, but money tx	[01:59]
mircea_popescu	pretty good point	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	so in the end, fincen guidance supports at least in part http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/	[02:00]
mircea_popescu	kinda nice to have them come out with "it is not a currency" statement.	[02:00]
BitHub	they class it the same as wow gold here	[02:01]
smickles	BitHub: if you buy wow gold you're a money transmitter?	[02:01]
smickles	i dun think so	[02:01]
smickles	that doc says if you buy a decentralized virtual currency, you are a money transmitter	[02:01]
smickles	which has a whole shebang of regulation	[02:02]
parseval	I think it's just if you sell it	[02:02]
smickles	i think it said both	[02:02]
Bowjob	im just sitting here fapping getting rich	[02:02]
Bowjob	>_>	[02:02]
Bugpowder	WOW	[02:02]
Bowjob	i ougtta work or something. this feels cheating	[02:03]
Bowjob	lol	[02:03]
deadweasel	coinbase just took my txn. given their history that doesn't mean anything.	[02:03]
Bugpowder	That FinCEN thing looks interesting	[02:03]
Bowjob	work at like mcdicks. make more money than the manager	[02:03]
Bowjob	haha	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder indeed.	[02:03]
Bugpowder	I will get feedback from wifey	[02:03]
Bugpowder	and from my other lawyer friends	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder cool	[02:03]
smickles	i might actually have to pay federal income tax this coming year if this shit keeps up	[02:04]
deadweasel	lol smickles	[02:04]
deadweasel	fuck those guys, this is bartering	[02:04]
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BitHub	cant you just hide your coins and tell them you got hacked?	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[02:05]
smickles	deadweasel: not when you trade it for usd	[02:05]
benkay	why do that?	[02:05]
benkay	just buy things	[02:05]
deadweasel	fuck usd	[02:05]
BitHub	cash out in another country	[02:05]
mircea_popescu	why are you folks so hell bent on not paying tax ?	[02:05]
smickles	it's all part of the plan	[02:05]
parseval	Or buy USD on an auction house	[02:05]
parseval	Have them mail it to you	[02:05]
smickles	mircea_popescu: i'm not, it's just that i'm poor and haven't done it yet	[02:06]
parseval	I mean actual cash	[02:06]
mircea_popescu	smickles not you, them	[02:06]
smickles	also, they gave me ~4kusd for my kid this year	[02:06]
deadweasel	because 51%+ goes to something worse than churches	[02:06]
BitHub	right mircea because MPEX is paying coporate tax right?	[02:06]
deadweasel	it goes to war.	[02:06]
deadweasel	so fuck em	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	BitHub on fiat revenue, sure.	[02:07]
BitHub	right so if everything is in btc why pay tax?	[02:07]
BitHub	i got hacked and all my coins are gone	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	lol ok.	[02:07]
smickles	if stuff like the fincen doc keep popping up, bitcoin 'revenue' isn't revenue	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	smickles it quite clearly says it isn't actually	[02:08]
Bugpowder	bartering tokens are still taxable	[02:08]
Bugpowder	get that guide	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	of course, it wouldn't be the first time this here bird is considered a duck for the purpose of X law and a goose for the purpose of y law	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	even if it can't be both.	[02:08]
BitHub	isn't your juridiction cyberspace?	[02:08]
mircea_popescu	BitHub practically or theoretically ?	[02:08]
smickles	Bugpowder: but it's taxed in a whole different way if you barter with it	[02:09]
BitHub	prac	[02:09]
mircea_popescu	practically it's romania.	[02:09]
smickles	that's right, mircea_popescu is an umpyr	[02:10]
kakobrekla	;;ticker	[02:10]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600	[02:10]
Bowjob	we're crashing!	[02:11]
mircea_popescu	haha flash crash	[02:11]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[02:11]
mod6	1M btc block: https://blockchain.info/block-index/361547/000000000000036a89470665c290a5aeead5809c2dc5fcb58678598e64211bc0	[02:11]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600	[02:11]
Bugpowder	wall at 54	[02:11]
Bugpowder	;;asks 54	[02:12]
gribble	There are currently 14319.578 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 768614.569271 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds	[02:12]
Bugpowder	-25 BTC transaction fee?	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	Data vintage: 150.8870 seconds lmao	[02:13]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder hm ?	[02:13]
mod6	Bugpowder: yeah thought that was weird	[02:13]
BitHub	When it comes to Tax why give money to a useless middleman that does a pretty terrible job at making the best of your money to make a better country, actually just waste alot, there's no point paying them when i can just hire people to make the country a lil bit less shit.	[02:14]
BitHub	i like to build parks, and roads, and speedhumps	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	wtf is that block	[02:14]
mircea_popescu	1mn btc transacted ?!	[02:14]
deadweasel	i just cashed out, that was me....	[02:14]
Bugpowder	lets look deeepr	[02:15]
deadweasel	:)	[02:15]
benkay	;;goxlag	[02:15]
gribble	95.434838 seconds	[02:15]
deadweasel	ha	[02:15]
benkay	SMOKES.	[02:15]
mod6	something like deepbit payments or something	[02:15]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[02:15]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600	[02:15]
Bowjob	;;goxlag	[02:16]
gribble	44.277889 seconds	[02:16]
Bowjob	damn	[02:16]
Bugpowder	Looks like 5000 BTC getting bounced from addresss to address with 2BTC missing each time	[02:16]
deadweasel	gox just took a gigantic crap	[02:16]
Bugpowder	ough	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder check out the 6k ish txns	[02:16]
Bugpowder	50 wall gone	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	addy 1 sends to 2 sends to 3 sends to 4	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	same btc	[02:16]
mircea_popescu	yea	[02:16]
mod6	yeah something like 6500 upto 7600	[02:16]
Bugpowder	OH YES!	[02:16]
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Bugpowder	THat was the wall at 54	[02:17]
Bugpowder	he sold to market	[02:17]
Bugpowder	54 wall is gone now. Up we go	[02:17]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[02:17]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.83101, Best ask: 51.11538, Bid-ask spread: 0.28437, Last trade: 51.29899, 24 hour volume: 66200.90710021, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.02600	[02:17]
Bugpowder	stale	[02:17]
deadweasel	;;goxlag	[02:17]
gribble	19.91481 seconds	[02:17]
Bugpowder	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png	[02:17]
Bugpowder	that seems to be up to date	[02:17]
deadweasel	thx, wow	[02:17]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[02:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.20001, Best ask: 50.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 50.20001, 24 hour volume: 70775.46761279, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16174	[02:18]
Bowjob	$50 is the new paradigm	[02:18]
Bugpowder	maybe its not stale... looks right	[02:18]
Bugpowder	$50 is the OLD paradigm	[02:18]
deadweasel	Bugpowder is right	[02:18]
Bugpowder	How many russians are thinking of putting 1% in bitcoin.	[02:18]
Bowjob	$50 is the new 5	[02:18]
deadweasel	the number in here listening Bugpowder	[02:18]
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deadweasel	ssssshhhhhh, were hunting bitcoin... wascally bitcoin	[02:19]
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Bowjob	;;ticker	[02:21]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.53002, Best ask: 50.82998, Bid-ask spread: 0.29996, Last trade: 50.52002, 24 hour volume: 70828.14155647, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.16342	[02:21]
Bowjob	;;goxlag	[02:22]
gribble	27.051584 seconds	[02:22]
benkay	are there any good charts of goxlag?	[02:24]
pizzaman1337	charts of goxlag? hahh	[02:24]
kakobrekla	it should be done	[02:24]
pizzaman1337	it could be used as an indicator	[02:24]
kakobrekla	yea	[02:25]
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benkay	of transient value	[02:25]
benkay	given recent biz moves	[02:25]
pgp	tradehill looks like their down - soiled themselves already...	[02:25]
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mircea_popescu	lmao pgp	[02:25]
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mircea_popescu	the adults has left the playground ?	[02:25]
pgp	lol	[02:25]
pgp	only adults have crossed order books...	[02:26]
pgp	at least that never happens on gox... lol	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[02:27]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302	[02:27]
benkay	;;goxlag	[02:27]
gribble	12.907513 seconds	[02:27]
benkay	is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker?	[02:27]
pgp	how it it that bitcoinity is updating and gox's US "Partner" coinlab isn't...	[02:28]
smickles	< benkay> is it unreasonable to ask for goxlag in the ticker? << nanotube	[02:28]
pgp	betcha that bitcoinity could do some sort of gox lag chart...	[02:29]
Bugpowder	;;ticker	[02:29]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.79898, Best ask: 50.79899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 50.79898, 24 hour volume: 71294.17494196, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.17302	[02:29]
Bugpowder	ywan	[02:29]
Bugpowder	back 2 work	[02:29]
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ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[02:35]
gribble	0.430566 seconds	[02:35]
Bowjob	not bad	[02:36]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[02:36]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 50.79980, Best ask: 50.85000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05020, Last trade: 50.85000, 24 hour volume: 71804.32426947, 24 hour low: 47.12009, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.19010	[02:36]
Bowjob	yep. "new paradigm"	[02:36]
gigatube	boring	[02:36]
gigatube	99$ or gtfo	[02:36]
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asciilifeform	oldie but goodie re: BTC exchanges: http://tinyurl.com/5t4xqq4	[02:48]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform was discussed here just a day or two ago	[02:50]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: damn. got a log?	[02:53]
mircea_popescu	ya 1 sec	[02:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/v3JxJqy5 aka nothing	[02:56]
mircea_popescu	i guess "discussed" was a misnomer.	[02:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009998 BTC [-]	[02:56]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: not much of a refutation now, was it?	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	not something that can in principle be refuted, is it ?	[02:58]
BitHub	not so sexy now is it	[02:58]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: not so sure about that. it might be possible to measure traffic to, say, mtgox, indirectly (without being in control of mtgox)	[02:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.84 = 2.52 BTC [-]	[02:59]
asciilifeform	say, by measuring ping time	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you can measure (a good portion of) mpex's inbound btc, for that matter.	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	does it help you ?	[02:59]
asciilifeform	and see exactly how it correlates with price moves	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	this is an open problem generally, there's even a serious bounty out for a certain formulation of it	[03:00]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that wouldn't do the trick, necessarily. presumably they have plenty of BTC in house to absorb the "noise"	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ (s.dice version)	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	there's like 5k bucks waiting to be won by some clever chap there	[03:01]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: I might take you up on that challenge.	[03:02]
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BitHub	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufXdcKWrmSM	[03:07]
BitHub	Asset Protection, Privacy and Bitcoin for Solo Entrepreneurs Part 1/8	[03:07]
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kakobrekla	what bullshit is this	[03:16]
kakobrekla	"you can become a 'pt'"	[03:16]
dub	one does not simply walk into passthrough	[03:16]
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kakobrekla	- perpetual thinker, - permanent tourist, - possibility thinker - privacy techincian, - pirate pass through	[03:16]
dub	proffessional thetan?	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	hahaha wait. tradehill is back ON THE MPEX MODEL ?	[03:17]
pgp	thetan - lol!	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[03:17]
kakobrekla	oh shut up	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	Every client will receive a $75 credit to test trading and can activate an account with a deposit of at least $10,000, 200 Bitcoins, or $5,000 in Mt. Gox codes.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	Read more at http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/#kOC57bZHlphBM98A.99	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	need at least 10k to play.	[03:18]
kakobrekla	lol	[03:18]
kakobrekla	i give 2.5 btc for 50btc account	[03:18]
pgp	5k really...	[03:18]
kakobrekla	which is like	[03:18]
kakobrekla	twice dat.	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	funny shit what these adults are up to over there.	[03:19]
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kakobrekla	give us a million and you get free cookie	[03:19]
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pgp	I'm embarassed for them...	[03:19]
kakobrekla	sales pitch.	[03:20]
pgp	cleaned out their book , I see... My, my, what DEEP pool of liquidity they have...	[03:20]
kakobrekla	from the comments;	[03:21]
kakobrekla	Ryan Singer > Kurt Durjan • 9 hours ago −	[03:22]
kakobrekla	↓	[03:22]
kakobrekla	Hi Kurt,	[03:22]
kakobrekla	Please email us at claim@tradehill.com and I will put you in touch with the person doing payouts for the old company	[03:22]
kakobrekla	---	[03:22]
kakobrekla	rofl.	[03:22]
pgp	yikes... crossed order book is back!	[03:22]
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pgp	what a joke...	[03:24]
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pgp	are those sell orders @ 50 supposed to be AON orders or something - still doesn't make sense...	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla lol win	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	"the person doing payouts for the old company"	[03:24]
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mircea_popescu	which isn't the dorks in the pic nor anything named tradehill	[03:25]
kakobrekla	the problem is to an outsider	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	fuck it, i'm blogging this	[03:25]
kakobrekla	this is all nice and ok	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[03:25]
kakobrekla	we need some press site with some powah	[03:25]
pgp	book finally uncrossed... more lag than gox?	[03:26]
kakobrekla	$coinlablag	[03:26]
kakobrekla	or sumtn	[03:27]
pgp	awesome! $1.50 spread	[03:27]
pgp	oops book gone again	[03:27]
kakobrekla	thes end of the world once per week on these exchanges	[03:28]
kakobrekla	theres*	[03:28]
jborkl	mpex.co is down	[03:33]
smickles	oh?	[03:34]
kakobrekla	is not	[03:34]
pgp	indeed it is...	[03:34]
smickles	sweet	[03:34]
smickles	:D	[03:34]
smickles	HAVOC!	[03:34]
kakobrekla	opens for me?	[03:34]
pgp	coinbr seems fine	[03:34]
pgp	but not http://mpex.coinbr.com/ or http://mpex.co/	[03:35]
smickles	yeah, i'm not seeing any issue	[03:35]
smickles	$depth	[03:36]
mpexbot	smickles: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WUXa2LWs	[03:36]
smickles	and mpex proper is still there	[03:36]
pgp	no i can sleep	[03:36]
pgp	now	[03:36]
smickles	pgp: if you're still having issues with the websites, use assbot or mpexbot	[03:36]
pgp	not a problem for me right now, just noting that website it inaccessible...	[03:37]
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jborkl	they are both down,404.doesnt matter to me but just to let you know	[03:37]
smickles	weird, they are both up for me	[03:38]
smickles	jborkl: where abouts are you	[03:38]
smickles	i'm in SW 'merica	[03:38]
jborkl	knowmultiple ip,same 404 errors on al	[03:38]
jborkl	all	[03:38]
pgp	im in nyc	[03:38]
jborkl	alalltexas	[03:39]
jborkl	damn phone	[03:39]
smickles	ahh, mpex.coinbr.com 404 now	[03:39]
smickles	mpexbot should work even if mpex.co is down	[03:39]
smickles	the same with assbot iirc	[03:39]
smickles	mircea_popescu: are you seeing this?	[03:40]
Bugpowder	yah its down	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	i am	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[03:40]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Uq6Ck9w2	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	mpex.co isn't down ftr.	[03:40]
smickles	woah,	[03:41]
smickles	mpexbot is getting a lot of network.in	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mpex.co	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	also	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if this is the early phase lessee here	[03:41]
mircea_popescu	Load Averages 0.07 0.08 0.08 on the proxies.	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	8 - 9 requests/sec. really niot seeing an issue atm	[03:43]
error4733	down for me	[03:44]
midnightmagic	down for me also. :-/	[03:44]
smickles	mpexbot's load average is up to 0.08	[03:45]
smickles	highest it's ever been	[03:45]
mircea_popescu	well folks, some tracerts might be useful	[03:45]
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pgp	48 min since last block mined	[03:46]
mircea_popescu	174.127.72.233/mpex/ << direct addressing also if it's a local dns issue/poisoning	[03:46]
error4733	FORK ? #troll	[03:46]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: traceroute ends at 173.192.118.141 ( po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com )	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	also,	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	$proxies	[03:47]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: ["http://mpex.co", "http://mpex.ws", "http://mpex.bz", "http://mpex.coinbr.com", "http://mpex6.coinbr.com"]	[03:47]
mircea_popescu	mpex.ws mpex.bz same story ?	[03:47]
pgp	mp - that doesn't work either	[03:47]
midnightmagic	hrm..	[03:47]
error4733	no1	[03:47]
kakobrekla	.bz works	[03:47]
vampireb	!ticker mpex s.dice	[03:48]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)	[03:48]
error4733	mmh not for me, so ? DNS ?	[03:48]
vampireb	;;ticker	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic that's normal, it's the top level router of the dc	[03:48]
pgp	proxies don't seem to work	[03:48]
Bugpowder	direct address dont work	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	pgp you actually can't connect to what srsly ?!	[03:48]
Bugpowder	from DC	[03:48]
midnightmagic	mpex.ws doesn't resolve. same with mpex.bz, and.. hrm.. 216.182.224.87 (216.182.224.87) for the coinbr proxies.	[03:49]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: It's not normal for a traceroute to fail to traverse..	[03:49]
pgp	just sayin' - can't get to website... trying to offer datapoint from nyc area...	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	to fail to traverse no	[03:49]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Are you getting bent over by someone..?	[03:49]
mircea_popescu	possibly tho it'd be in a very weird way	[03:50]
kakobrekla	.bz and .co works here	[03:50]
kakobrekla	the rest is dead	[03:50]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: My traceroute is from northern california..	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	http://who.is/whois/mpex.co sees it for instance	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	downforeverone also sees it	[03:50]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: That might just be cached. (the whois part)	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	maybe one of the letter dns servers got pouisoned ?	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	Overview for mpex.co	[03:50]
mircea_popescu	Updated: 1 second ago	[03:50]
Bugpowder	http://pastebin.com/DxCMxhDw	[03:51]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Is this 174.127.72.233 mpex.co?	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	yea	[03:51]
midnightmagic	mircea_popescu: Do you have access to a looking glass?	[03:51]
Bugpowder	dies here : po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141) 131.070 ms	[03:51]
smickles	i've got a server in california	[03:51]
smickles	i'll tr from there	[03:51]
mircea_popescu	hm	[03:52]
Bugpowder	DOJ cut the US cables to MPEX	[03:53]
Bugpowder	in wake of FinCEN guidance	[03:53]
mircea_popescu	lol	[03:53]
midnightmagic	smickles: Does your upstream give you bgp looking glass access?	[03:54]
Bugpowder	Actually, the DC Level 3 ip tried for 50 secondes then sent it thru Dallas, where it also failed.	[03:54]
midnightmagic	it would certainly be interesting if it were part of something deliberate. :-/	[03:55]
Bugpowder	5 seconds	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	1 2 0 0 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	2 Timed out 1 0 4.69.145.204 ae-4-90.edge2.dallas3.level3.net	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	3 7 7 7 4.59.36.94 softlayer-t.edge2.dallas3.level3.net	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	4 8 7 8 50.97.18.195 ae6.dar01.sr01.dal05.networklayer.com	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	5 10 8 7 173.192.118.139 po1.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	6 8 8 8 174.127.72.233 174.127.72.233.static.midphase.com	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	Trace complete	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	i get it from dallas just fine for instance	[03:55]
pgp	http://174.127.72.233/ comes up for me showing some Romanian hauling luggage...	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	pgp haha cool.	[03:55]
mircea_popescu	except it's a guatemalan.	[03:55]
smickles	midnightmagic: i'm so noob on this topic, i don't even know	[03:56]
midnightmagic	smickles: Okay.	[03:56]
smickles	my cali traceroute didn't look special	[03:56]
Bugpowder	still hanging at po2.fcr02.sr02.dal05.networklayer.com (173.192.118.141) 89.246 ms	[03:56]
smickles	it must be in a different part	[03:56]
midnightmagic	maybe iran screwed their bgp advertisements up again	[03:56]
midnightmagic	that would be funny.	[03:56]
Bugpowder	172.127.72.233 loads for me... text only, but the /mpex does not	[03:56]
smickles	text only? you're looking at the site as intended	[03:57]
smickles	;)	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[03:57]
pgp	lol	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	for my curiosity, if you edit your hosts to read	[03:57]
pgp	are you sure?	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	174.127.72.233 mpex.co	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	does it suddenly work fine ?	[03:57]
mircea_popescu	(bind may need restart, or masq or w/e the dns is)	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	$vwap	[03:59]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6J3qFf1L	[03:59]
pgp	although 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ does resolve...	[04:02]
kakobrekla	;;goxlag	[04:02]
pgp	the google translator has the article beginning with "May be the reasons explained when talking about behavioral deviations , or if it is not of course a conspiracy of blacks, Jews, Masons, English and former wives . It is true that I lean toward the first explanation, "What do I know?"	[04:02]
kakobrekla	dafuq	[04:02]
kakobrekla	nanotube, gribble forgot -asset	[04:03]
kakobrekla	s	[04:03]
pgp	fascinating material - really...	[04:04]
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mircea_popescu	pgp lol cool	[04:05]
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pgp	I'm sure google isn't capturing the nuance of message...	[04:07]
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mircea_popescu	:p	[04:07]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i've told sysadmin ppls, see what they come up with	[04:08]
dub	dos again?	[04:08]
dub	you should stick some soa elsewhere so we can at least tell when you're gettign dosed	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	dub best i can tell there's some dns poisoning going on	[04:09]
dub	also fuck .co	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	so use .ws	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	dub does 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ resolve for you ?	[04:10]
pgp	although lumping in "former housewives" (or should it just be former wives) in with blacks, jew, mason and... english does strike me as subtly genius on a level that I'm not quite sure I understand....	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	pgp gimme a link i might make some sense of it	[04:11]
dub	um I don't think thats teh right question	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	ya ok. does it bring up a page ?	[04:11]
dub	I can reach 174.127.72.233	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	right.	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	if you update your dns to have mpex.co resolve there you're good to go.	[04:12]
dub	174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ is a 302 to http://polimedia.us/trilema/	[04:12]
dub	and polimedia is not resolving	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	hum	[04:12]
jborkl	polimedia.us not resolving	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	http://174.127.72.233/~polimedi/bitcoin/ << what does that do ?	[04:13]
jborkl	resolvingyes	[04:13]
dub	it shows mpex	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	mkay.	[04:13]
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pgp	http://174.127.72.233/~polimedi/bitcoin/ yes it does!	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	not clear if intentional or accidental, if directed at mpex or just affecting some users, but the dns's are borkt.	[04:14]
dub	your problem is the soa is unreachable	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	for some people (not for all)	[04:14]
dub	well your soa records are on your domain	[04:14]
dub	which is broken	[04:14]
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dub	if I cant resolve soa for polimedia.us im not goign to be able to ask ns1/2.polimedia.us how to get there	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	dub you will have to have soa on some server.	[04:15]
pgp	btw 174.127.72.233/mpex.co/ seems to resolve to random MP musings...	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	if some user gets his dns fucked up and can't resolve that server	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	it will appear unreachable.	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	dub ns1/2 are registered as ns's tho, pretty much every dns server should know them by ip	[04:16]
dub	no	[04:16]
pgp	I'm now getting: Moment poetic.	[04:16]
pgp	Octombrie 25, 2010 \| Autor: Mircea Popescu	[04:16]
pgp	De-ai adormi iubito pe linia ferata	[04:16]
pgp	Imbujorate trenuri te-or ocoli tiptil	[04:16]
pgp	Din ceruri au sa ninga baloturi mari de vata	[04:16]
pgp	Vor fi betii de roua, se va dansa cadril.	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	pgp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHrt7Fc99Eo there. with music.	[04:17]
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dub	mircea_popescu: they will cache them for however long you instruct them to, then they will have to ask you again	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	dub right.	[04:17]
dub	but only after someone asks them	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	right.	[04:17]
dub	anyone this doesnt work for do: dig +trace polimedia.us	[04:18]
dub	for me there is no 'glue' in the root	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	;; Received 228 bytes from 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) in 49 ms	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	us. 172800 IN NS k.cctld.us.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	us. 172800 IN NS e.cctld.us.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	us. 172800 IN NS c.cctld.us.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	us. 172800 IN NS f.cctld.us.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	us. 172800 IN NS a.cctld.us.	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	us. 172800 IN NS b.cctld.us.	[04:18]
gribble	Error: "Received" is not a valid command.	[04:18]
dub	sorry, yes there is	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	;; Received 98 bytes from 156.154.127.70#53(c.cctld.us) in 50 ms	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	polimedia.us. 14400 IN A 174.127.72.233	[04:19]
gribble	Error: "Received" is not a valid command.	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	it's there.	[04:19]
jborkl	mobile 4g service reaches it fine	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	somebody fucked up their dns best i can determine atm.	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	possibly l3	[04:20]
pgp	mp: your creation?	[04:22]
jborkl	ok back up on all ip tried	[04:22]
dub	mircea_popescu: anyway, use another domain for SOA	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	polimedia IS another domain from mpex.co	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	pgp nah	[04:23]
pgp	lol	[04:24]
dub	except we cant reach mpex or polimedia	[04:25]
dub	http://www.webdnstools.com/dnstools/articles/glue_records	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	so what'd a diff domain help ?	[04:26]
error4733	NSA, grow up please !	[04:26]
gigatube	Call the system administrator!	[04:27]
gigatube	PC Load Letter!?!?	[04:27]
dub	its been a long time since I gave a shit about dns so I cannot elucidate	[04:27]
dub	being 7 hours into a fault bridge dun't help	[04:28]
dub	suffice to say you have engineered yourself a spiffing spof there	[04:29]
mod6	dig @a.cctld.us polimedia.us ANY << so if you dig here, you get the forward zone, its just the gtld-servers that don't return a valid pointer	[04:29]
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mod6	someone is doing something funny though	[04:30]
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mod6	same thing with this: dig @a.cctld.us mpex.co ANY	[04:31]
mod6	they both have the same NS entries	[04:32]
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mod6	werid.	[04:37]
mod6	mpexbot is still working as far as I can tell...	[04:37]
dub	I think his ns are just gettign hit	[04:37]
the-bucket-shop	;;ticker m s.dice	[04:38]
gribble	(ticker [--bid\|--ask\|--last\|--high\|--low\|--avg] [--currency XXX]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure that the three letter code you enter is a valid (1 more message)	[04:38]
the-bucket-shop	ticker m s.dice	[04:39]
the-bucket-shop	nope	[04:39]
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mod6	you gotta do:	[04:40]
mod6	!ticker m s.dice	[04:40]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6227 shares, 31.76 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514093 / 0.00599987 (75748 shares, 389.42 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609733 / 0.0069 (2299780 shares, 14,022.52 BTC)	[04:40]
mod6	and, yeah, i got a successful stat back	[04:40]
the-bucket-shop	thanks mod6	[04:40]
mod6	np	[04:40]
mod6	what's strange is that even if they're blasting his NS's and trying to poison them, that shouldn't effect the gltd??	[04:41]
dub	I dont think it is	[04:41]
dub	his ns are bork	[04:41]
dub	dig @63.247.64.93 polimedia.us ANY +short	[04:41]
dub	noerror but no record either	[04:41]
dub	but I'm seeing 25% PL to them too	[04:42]
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mircea_popescu	the obligatory tradehill bitchlsapping	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	confirms that Chase Bank's website has indeed been hacked	[04:47]
mod6	dub: hmm. yeah i guess us and cc have they're own tld servers.	[04:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+]	[04:48]
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mod6	*their	[04:50]
mod6	doh!	[04:50]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 54	[04:50]
gribble	There are currently 2699.4102 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 143185.579577 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds	[04:50]
benkay	those ripple weirdos, amirite?	[04:51]
benkay	i thought we were evolving past debt-based economies	[04:51]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 60	[04:51]
gribble	There are currently 14956.903 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 851660.539216 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 50.4408 seconds	[04:51]
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benkay	some of us are trying to i now understand	[04:51]
mod6	for the goats: http://youtu.be/LEP6-ICsjgg	[04:51]
Chaang-Noi	ahh i dont have flash installed :/	[04:51]
mod6	oh bummer, this is pretty funnay	[04:52]
mod6	i like the guy @ 1:20 or so, cracks me up	[04:52]
mod6	and by "guy" i mean the goat, not the actual human	[04:52]
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Chaang-Noi	im about 50% of each	[04:54]
dub	mod6: lol you suck	[04:54]
dub	people on this call thinking im nuts now	[04:54]
olive_	;;asks 53	[04:55]
mod6	dub haha wat?	[04:55]
gribble	There are currently 1728.8819 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 91113.8927114 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds	[04:55]
mod6	anyway, i guess im just dusty	[04:56]
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mod6	cuz back in the day they didn't have fancy ass tld's like co, or us lol	[04:57]
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Chaang-Noi	they are fail for drop shipping anyway	[04:58]
Chaang-Noi	if i was in the usa i would offer a much better service, i have shitloads of stuff in stock already	[04:58]
benkay	some bureaucrats won at making bitcoin welcome in america	[04:58]
Chaang-Noi	who?	[04:59]
Chaang-Noi	how what?	[04:59]
benkay	the fincen people	[04:59]
benkay	or whatever their name is	[04:59]
benkay	the way i see this is that some bureaucrats decided to let bitcoin grow on its own here	[04:59]
Chaang-Noi	im not in the loop i guess	[05:00]
benkay	http://t.co/UclT7bCmSe	[05:00]
benkay	hoho	[05:00]
benkay	don't click that link if you value your privacy	[05:00]
BitHub	usa bitcoin companies are fucking idiots	[05:00]
benkay	sorry	[05:00]
BitHub	you idiots	[05:01]
mod6	shrug	[05:01]
BitHub	feel like herston at the end of planet of the apes	[05:01]
BitHub	you maniacs you blew it up	[05:01]
benkay	heh	[05:01]
mod6	why are yall worried?	[05:01]
the-bucket-shop	!ticker m s.bbet	[05:01]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)	[05:01]
benkay	the usg has a tendency to overreact, and may yet	[05:02]
benkay	but sometimes they let things be and try to just go after criminals	[05:02]
benkay	infrequently	[05:02]
BitHub	because bitcoin is going get gang banged by western laws and regulation	[05:02]
mod6	bah	[05:02]
mod6	who cares	[05:02]
BitHub	by end of the year	[05:02]
benkay	our government is like a pmsing older sister	[05:03]
mod6	they will try	[05:03]
mod6	and fail	[05:03]
benkay	sometimes arbitrarily bitchy	[05:03]
BitHub	they will fail if you're not based in usa	[05:03]
benkay	sometimes is like "hey kid have a joint"	[05:03]
BitHub	if your usa resident of usa bitcoin company consider yourself fucked	[05:03]
BitHub	or*	[05:03]
benkay	how so bh?	[05:03]
Bugpowder	I disagree	[05:03]
benkay	++bugpowder	[05:04]
BitHub	licences	[05:04]
Bugpowder	Regulations cost money	[05:04]
Bugpowder	BUT	[05:04]
BitHub	tax	[05:04]
Bugpowder	VC's have money and may have been waiting for legal guidanc	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	ok, dns poisoning should be clearing atm by special arrangementy	[05:04]
benkay	i don't need to not pay taxes to live off bitcoins	[05:04]
mod6	mp: sweet	[05:04]
the-bucket-shop	!ticker m s.mpoe	[05:04]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00066743 / 0.00069359 / 0.00076717 (465282 shares, 322.72 BTC), 7D: 0.00066743 / 0.00071669 / 0.00077241 (2302852 shares, 1,650.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00070265 / 0.00078628 (40174787 shares, 28,229.00 BTC)	[05:04]
Bugpowder	The more clarity there is to the marketplace the more willing people are to invest and build companies	[05:05]
benkay	i don't need to not pay taxes to build profitable businesses period.	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder what's your read on the guidance ?	[05:05]
BitHub	just email the gov your wallet.dat file and give up	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	seems overall very positive.	[05:05]
Bugpowder	Great news for users	[05:05]
Bugpowder	OK for miners	[05:05]
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benkay	great for network. forces miners to spend in-network.	[05:05]
Bugpowder	cause who really is gonna hunt u down over 25BTC	[05:05]
Bugpowder	guilds might have an issue	[05:05]
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benkay	"forces"	[05:05]
BitHub	the gov gave up on google and apple	[05:05]
BitHub	and now going after everyone else	[05:05]
Bugpowder	so breaking up guilds is kinda good too. BTCguild went over 40%	[05:05]
mircea_popescu	yah, a hidden gift in there	[05:06]
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BitHub	thank christ not a usa resident or usa bitcoin company	[05:06]
benkay	i want to meet the people who wrote those regulations	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	exchanges had to get cleanned up anyway	[05:06]
Bugpowder	Coinlab et al, is unclear. Could be a tougher road, but leaves a path open.	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	On a more general note : the time of cowboy style, “one man and his hopes” fiat-BTC exchanges has passed. The exchange market is moving into a new phase. There is room on it for MtGox, on account of its old age and well known brand, and for people like the Frenchies doing that bitcoin-central partner-with-a-bank thing. All other exchanges are going out, and things being what they are the majority of them will be go	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	ing out uncleanly.	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	Because of this, keeping money in any other fiat-BTC exchanges than those two is pretty much cruisin’ for a bruisin’. Spot sellers may still be safe for a while, select ones may even be safe forever (as they’re a subset of the OTC style marketplace), but for better or worse cowboy exchanges are a thing of the past.	[05:06]
mircea_popescu	i love quoting myself!	[05:07]
Bugpowder	A real company will be able to pass regs	[05:07]
BitHub	yeah i cant wait to use paypal's bitcoin service	[05:07]
benkay	as a normal user it'll be perfect, bithub	[05:07]
Bugpowder	Dude. If you hold coins now	[05:07]
benkay	its what they need	[05:07]
BitHub	i cant wait to have all the old dinosaur fucks involved	[05:07]
Bugpowder	and paypal starts a service	[05:07]
Bugpowder	you will be fucking rich	[05:08]
mod6	except when they "freeze" your private key lol	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	^ that.	[05:08]
benkay	yeah, but norms don't need to care about that	[05:08]
mod6	ok just send me ur btc plz	[05:08]
Bugpowder	I'm done selling coins	[05:08]
BitHub	i dont know	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[05:08]
BitHub	honestly	[05:08]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 51.74014, Best ask: 51.99996, Bid-ask spread: 0.25982, Last trade: 51.99998, 24 hour volume: 75673.06898668, 24 hour low: 47.20000, 24 hour high: 52.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.44165	[05:08]
Bugpowder	Regualtory pressure was my biggest worry	[05:08]
BitHub	if it hits 100 im cashing out for good	[05:08]
BitHub	and moving onto something else	[05:08]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder you're not alone let me tell you.	[05:08]
error4733	like satoshi	[05:08]
BitHub	move onto it quickly before it gets raped by western laws and regulation	[05:08]
benkay	i see a road to acceptance in america.	[05:09]
Bugpowder	Exactly	[05:09]
benkay	it'll be hard and it'll take leadership	[05:09]
Bugpowder	This the the DREAM act for bitcoin	[05:09]
Bugpowder	Amnesty!	[05:09]
error4733	yes	[05:09]
dub	uh wtf happened?	[05:09]
error4733	free card	[05:09]
dub	I missed it	[05:09]
BitHub	you'll just have the same old dinosaurs controlling bitcoin	[05:09]
Bugpowder	FinCEN issued guidance	[05:09]
BitHub	to be honest id rather go back to cash	[05:09]
error4733	btc is play money, enjoy	[05:09]
dub	link?	[05:10]
BitHub	what a joke	[05:10]
Bugpowder	I am 75% sure that IRS will issue tax guidance before year end too	[05:10]
benkay	someone put this into the title	[05:10]
benkay	http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html	[05:10]
mod6	no surrender imho	[05:10]
benkay	topic	[05:10]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder if it reads like youi want it to read we're golden	[05:10]
benkay	whatever	[05:10]
mod6	no white flags, only black flags	[05:11]
Bugpowder	Not out of the woods yet	[05:11]
Bugpowder	I would keep my coins close	[05:11]
BitHub	this is only revelent to USA people right?	[05:11]
Bugpowder	don't leave them parked on exchances	[05:11]
BitHub	so i shouldn't give a shit?	[05:11]
Bugpowder	Naw... Has major exchage rate implications	[05:11]
BitHub	bullshit man	[05:11]
Bugpowder	If it fucks liquidity that will be bad short term	[05:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]	[05:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.831 BTC [-]	[05:11]
Bugpowder	But I think the market will view as net positive	[05:11]
mircea_popescu	btc liquidity or fiat liquidity ?	[05:11]
error4733	they alway hit the money first (fiat	[05:12]
Bugpowder	USD -> BTC liquidity	[05:12]
Bugpowder	did they read on that?	[05:12]
benkay	"users of virtual currency"	[05:12]
BitHub	good luck trying to cash out 1 million dollars	[05:12]
benkay	i came	[05:12]
BitHub	straight to jail	[05:12]
Bugpowder	ore just BTC 0-> USD	[05:12]
Bugpowder	BitHub: You are delusional	[05:12]
Bugpowder	Cash out 1 million	[05:12]
Bugpowder	pay taxes	[05:12]
BitHub	why?	[05:12]
mircea_popescu	buy all the girls new tits.	[05:12]
Bugpowder	show where you bought it from	[05:12]
Bugpowder	don't go to jail	[05:12]
mod6	why would you want to cash out to near-worthless fiat?	[05:13]
error4733	touche	[05:13]
Bugpowder	mod6: Not worthless yet	[05:13]
BitHub	but why	[05:13]
BitHub	i'm not doing anything criminal	[05:13]
error4733	house, car ?	[05:13]
Bugpowder	Suppose you wanted to buy a Tesla.	[05:13]
Bugpowder	hypothetically	[05:13]
BitHub	tesla?	[05:13]
Diablo-D3	a car	[05:13]
mircea_popescu	suppose you want to give a girl a 2nd pair of tits.	[05:13]
Bugpowder	Elon has not responded to my tweets re: the Bitcoins for Tesla plan	[05:13]
BitHub	right	[05:13]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: acccttuuuaaalllly	[05:14]
Diablo-D3	thats the funny thing	[05:14]
BitHub	BitHub paid for those tits	[05:14]
Diablo-D3	Elon likes Bitcoin but wont publically state it	[05:14]
BitHub	i'm a contractor for BitHub	[05:14]
Bugpowder	I should DM him	[05:14]
Diablo-D3	shit like this gives Elon a boner	[05:14]
Bugpowder	Got a friend who has dinner with him occasionally	[05:14]
Bugpowder	but, not me.	[05:14]
benkay	some friend	[05:14]
Bugpowder	Family at SpaceX	[05:15]
BitHub	so is the gov goign to tax me from my job or from bitcoin/	[05:15]
BitHub	or double dip	[05:15]
Bugpowder	double dip	[05:15]
Bugpowder	of course	[05:15]
BitHub	pffft	[05:15]
BitHub	fucking assholes	[05:15]
BitHub	anyway my wallet got hacked	[05:15]
benkay	;)	[05:15]
BitHub	sorry gov	[05:15]
Bugpowder	yeah	[05:15]
Bugpowder	exactly	[05:15]
Bugpowder	Its the return of the Honest John system	[05:16]
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BitHub	lulz	[05:16]
Bugpowder	re: tax filing	[05:16]
Bugpowder	if you never cash	[05:16]
BitHub	yeah got to cash out secretly	[05:16]
Bugpowder	I might have to take down my localbitcoins profile though	[05:16]
benkay	that's what the irs ruling will determine	[05:16]
BitHub	like an actual drug deal	[05:16]
BitHub	jesus	[05:16]
benkay	or buy stuff with them	[05:16]
dub	why not just pay tax you fucking leeches	[05:16]
benkay	gott im himmel	[05:16]
Bugpowder	I am still waiting for my headphones	[05:17]
dub	you get a society, pay for it	[05:17]
Bugpowder	from bitcoinstore	[05:17]
Bugpowder	I don't mind paying 15%	[05:17]
BitHub	yeah dub's right we should pay tax on it to get more guns	[05:17]
BitHub	we don't have enough guns in america	[05:17]
error4733	i live in nigeria i dont have society	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	dub i don't mind paying whores, but only if they're on their knees.	[05:17]
BitHub	i don't feel safe	[05:17]
Bugpowder	I don't want to pay 39.8% + 13%	[05:17]
mircea_popescu	this society is too uppity.	[05:17]
benkay	you can also think about taxation as endorsing your local government	[05:17]
BitHub	why pay a middleman that does a shit job at creating a society?	[05:17]
benkay	do you?	[05:17]
dub	BitHub: I dont live in america, I pay tax to get healthcare, education, a working society	[05:18]
BitHub	me too	[05:18]
BitHub	its already at about 30-35 %	[05:18]
benkay	i don't	[05:18]
dub	and yes look after people less useful than me	[05:18]
BitHub	now they want more?	[05:18]
dub	but its cheaper to feed them than let them die	[05:18]
dub	I pay ~50% tax	[05:18]
error4733	be happy, you could leave in Cyprus	[05:18]
BitHub	its a sick joke anyway	[05:18]
Bugpowder	;;asks 30	[05:19]
Bugpowder	;;bids 30	[05:19]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds	[05:19]
gribble	There are currently 148225.44 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5579457.76514 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0145 seconds	[05:19]
mircea_popescu	but its cheaper to feed them than let them die	[05:19]
BitHub	try and put real life bullshit rules on me	[05:19]
Bugpowder	;;bids 0	[05:19]
gribble	There are currently 57979983 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8084076.7019 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 23.3481 seconds	[05:19]
Bugpowder	8M	[05:19]
dub	mircea_popescu: having people dying about the place is a big burden on society	[05:19]
Bugpowder	lame	[05:19]
Bugpowder	stuck	[05:19]
mircea_popescu	dub ...	[05:20]
Bugpowder	at 8M	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	show how this costs money.	[05:20]
benkay	8m	[05:20]
dub	its cheaper to give them $20k/year to buy ciggaretes and gamble	[05:20]
BitHub	why don't the gov get their money off google and apple first	[05:20]
BitHub	get them to pay their proper tax	[05:20]
mircea_popescu	dub cheaper than what ?	[05:20]
BitHub	then we can talk	[05:20]
Bugpowder	not really. Healthcare is the main gov cost	[05:20]
Thinker	its cheaper in the long run to let them die off	[05:20]
Bugpowder	or will be soon	[05:20]
benkay	big blowout around 10m	[05:20]
BitHub	fucking idiots	[05:20]
dub	mircea_popescu: cheaper than scraping them up out of teh gutter	[05:21]
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BitHub	so broke, they'll have to live by china's rules soon anyway	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	dub are you kidding ?	[05:21]
dub	not at all	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	you can do that with power tools, costs nothing per pound	[05:21]
dub	its also a shitload cheapt than sticking them in prison	[05:21]
dub	cheaper*	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	and the value of me showing random forum idiots what happens iof they continue is > 9000	[05:21]
mircea_popescu	this is the problem with unbeaten children and "everyone living comfortably"	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	there's no motivation left.	[05:22]
dub	well the reality is this shit is factually correct	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	and without motivation there's no education.	[05:22]
mircea_popescu	dub not rly. you just want it to be correct so as not to be forced to reevaluate the coolaid you've been fed.	[05:22]
Thinker	cut off the entitlements. that will make them choose between work or death. remove the safety nets that are being used like hammocks.	[05:22]
dub	no, I understand the economics of it	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	mkay.	[05:23]
dub	what you are advocating for is america	[05:23]
dub	and that is clearly working well	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	not rly.	[05:23]
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mircea_popescu	i mean forget the strawmen and red herrings for a second.	[05:23]
mircea_popescu	the cost of pushing dead bodies with a bulldozer vs the cost of pretending like the idiots are people.	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	five degrees of magnitude ? six ? nine ?	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	stick to the economics of it.	[05:24]
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dub	the problem is pushign the dead into a hole is not the only cost, there is fallout	[05:24]
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BitHub	here we go again, make something illegal for the lil guys, but really expensive licencing for the big boys	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	dub so you posit.	[05:25]
mircea_popescu	familiar with the millions for defense but not a penny in bribes line ?	[05:25]
BitHub	would you pay a guy alot of your money if all he did was cockblock you from a really hot girl all the time?	[05:26]
Bugpowder	How expensive will this licensing actually be?	[05:26]
dub	ok, perhaps the problem is that we are already at a toage of societal evolution where reverting ro your ideal is not feasable	[05:26]
BitHub	expensive, bet your ass on that	[05:26]
mircea_popescu	dub let's find out shall we.	[05:27]
BitHub	Money Transmitter license	[05:27]
dub	not without some genocide at the front	[05:27]
Bugpowder	Lawyers are expensive, but its still pretty hard to hit $1MM on a single tranactional licensing setup	[05:27]
mircea_popescu	as long as i got the money you're not telling me what's feasible.	[05:27]
Thinker	How do you feel about your tax dollars supporting guys like this that are so pathetic they can't even move their bodies down to Walmart to wait in line to buy Diablo 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJtDUZMSOBw	[05:27]
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BitHub	tax is just another life's scams	[05:27]
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mircea_popescu	bitcoin is pretty much the end of mandatory taxation. society will have to cope.	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	you want to be helped, give me a good reason.	[05:30]
Thinker	mircea_popescu: exactly.	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	that starts with doing an excellent cocksucking job.	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	it does NOT start with threatening me.	[05:30]
benkay	haha	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	i'll just have you shot, a bullet is cheaper.	[05:30]
benkay	government's that actually work	[05:30]
benkay	derp	[05:30]
benkay	governments	[05:30]
benkay	shit yeah oh i totally get it	[05:30]
benkay	government as a service	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	yup	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	police wants money ? start asking people to donate.	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	you piss people off ? guess what. no budget.	[05:31]
BitHub	your first statement mircea brings me alot of relief	[05:31]
benkay	hohohohoho	[05:31]
Thinker	socialism ("free" stuff from government) disrupts natural selection.	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	watch cops help old ladies cross the street on this model.	[05:31]
dub	socialism does nto provide free stuff	[05:31]
benkay	cops may actually have to engage in dialogue with citizens	[05:31]
benkay	about what should be enforced	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	benkay yes. with their hats in their hands.	[05:31]
BitHub	intead of just beating them?	[05:31]
Thinker	cops will realize that yes, we are their boss and not the other way around.	[05:31]
Bugpowder	There are almost 40,000 registered money transmitters in the US	[05:31]
benkay	mind = blown	[05:32]
dub	and cops are already scum of the earth	[05:32]
Bugpowder	It costs $1000 to register in Washington state	[05:32]
Bugpowder	http://mortgage.nationwidelicensingsystem.org/slr/PublishedStateDocuments/WA-Currency-Exchange-Company-New-App-Checklist.pdf	[05:32]
benkay	ahaha	[05:32]
benkay	and	[05:32]
benkay	AND	[05:32]
dub	if you are not good at anything you become a cop or a teacher	[05:32]
Bugpowder	first thing I found	[05:32]
benkay	departments aren't interdependent	[05:32]
benkay	forest service can accept "tithe"	[05:32]
benkay	or whatever	[05:32]
benkay	so can dod	[05:32]
benkay	nsa	[05:32]
benkay	omgomgomgomg	[05:32]
Thinker	dub: well said	[05:32]
dub	if you can handle a mop you go into the janitorial arts which probalby pays better	[05:32]
Bugpowder	SO..... If coinlab can't handle something of this moderate level of effort and cost, I don't want to deal with them	[05:32]
Thinker	i know how we can get more people employed. eliminate minimum wage and entitlements.	[05:33]
benkay	i haven't felt like this since reading ayn rand as a wee one	[05:33]
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Bugpowder	LOL	[05:33]
dub	benkay: thats all well and good, but really you are just reinventing states	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	dub nope. the us is puritan-stupid, for one.	[05:34]
benkay	one must keep riff raff like you out	[05:34]
BitHub	so you just need a 1000$ licence?	[05:34]
mircea_popescu	and moreover, they're about as socialist as the uk by now	[05:34]
benkay	this enables sea farming	[05:35]
Bugpowder	So, my reading of the FinCEN guidance is more positive now that it is established that it costs $1000 to register in WA. I don't know if that let's you operate in other states as well, but if you need to register in all states then lets say $50,000 and a pain in the ass.	[05:35]
BitHub	and pay coporate tax	[05:35]
Bugpowder	BitHub: Looks like it. It would take some lawyer time to make sure the t's are crossed and i's dotted.	[05:35]
BitHub	and lawyer fees	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	sooo... bitbet dividends for march revised upwards.	[05:36]
Bugpowder	Sure. But this is PEANUTS for a real company	[05:36]
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BitHub	right	[05:36]
Bugpowder	Series A should cover it an amore	[05:36]
Bugpowder	and more	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	on top of 20+ btc expected from bet resolutions there's about 10btc or so coming from people who tried to leech the btc/usd rate bet and got in too late.	[05:36]
BitHub	so better to have paypal in there then say give me a go	[05:37]
mod6	they tried to game the weight along side of the exchange rate?	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	mod6 yeah.	[05:37]
mod6	anyway, thats interesting. thanks for the heads up mp.	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	it's reallty delicious when wanna-be cheaters get rammed.	[05:37]
mod6	=)	[05:38]
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mod6	mpex.co seems to work fine for me over http now	[05:40]
mod6	btw	[05:40]
benkay	;;goxlag	[05:40]
gribble	0.907938 seconds	[05:40]
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mod6	!ticker m ^OIX	[05:41]
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assbot	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 37.53972864 / 42.55721868 / 57.53184036 (20165 shares, 3,142.64 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)	[05:41]
kakobrekla	they are refunded if they come before bet is closed but after the event	[05:41]
kakobrekla	if the bet is already closed	[05:42]
kakobrekla	then no.	[05:42]
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the-bucket-shop	!ticker m s.bbet	[05:45]
assbot	[MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0.0018 / 0.0018 / 0.0018 (17450 shares, 31.41 BTC), 7D: 0.0015 / 0.00189869 / 0.002014 (48750 shares, 92.56 BTC), 30D: 0.0015 / 0.00180983 / 0.002014 (135256 shares, 244.79 BTC)	[05:45]
kakobrekla	!l m s.bbet	[05:45]
assbot	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]	[05:45]
mod6	nice kakobrekla	[05:45]
kakobrekla	:p	[05:46]
mod6	need a volume data point maybe	[05:46]
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kakobrekla	you can only abuse it 3 million times	[05:46]
mod6	heheh	[05:47]
kakobrekla	> however this stock is going to be better than fiat.	[05:49]
kakobrekla	chang you are full of wisdom	[05:49]
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kakobrekla	dog shit is better than fiat.	[05:50]
kakobrekla	at least you can fertilize	[05:50]
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mod6	growing up here in the U.S. I was taught to hate all paper currency that wasn't backed by sound money. but then they go, "well, except we don't have the ``gold-standard'' any more since they went off the Bretton Woods system." "Ummm.. so what do they do now???" "Well they say we have this petro-dollar"...	[05:53]
mod6	"ok so why did we go off the gold standard?" "to pay for the vietnam war.." "so what do we do when it goes to 0?" "hopefully that'll be long after we're gone..."	[05:54]
mod6	lol	[05:54]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[10:13]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013	[10:13]
Anduck	!ticker m s.dice	[10:13]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0051 / 0.0051 / 0.0051 (6827 shares, 34.82 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00514061 / 0.00599987 (76348 shares, 392.48 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00609701 / 0.0069 (2300180 shares, 14,024.24 BTC)	[10:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1544 @ 0.00073702 = 1.138 BTC [-]	[10:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7570 @ 0.00073701 = 5.5792 BTC [-]	[10:18]
Chaang-Noi	damn i should buy some platinum...	[10:32]
Chaang-Noi	or maybe not, its not like people are making cars... :/	[10:32]
Chaang-Noi	wtf is palladium so damn high	[10:33]
Chaang-Noi	i remeber buying it at 180	[10:33]
Chaang-Noi	Rhodium is cheap too, hmm	[10:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5827 @ 0.0007431 = 4.33 BTC [+]	[10:48]
Namworld	Looks like I'm only earning 4 BTC weekly on my stuff...	[10:49]
Namworld	Seems little.	[10:52]
Namworld	Guess I need to keep working on my portfolio.	[10:52]
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Chaang-Noi	$800 a month not bad, but why not just asicminer? :)	[11:08]
*	Ukto points to a basket full of eggs	[11:26]
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Namworld	I got a bit of ASICMINER. Not enough in my taste but anyway.	[11:50]
Namworld	I'll be heading off.	[11:51]
Namworld	5:51 am already...	[11:51]
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dub	!ticket btctc ASICMINER-PT	[12:03]
dub	!ticker btctc ASICMINER-PT	[12:03]
assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.82 / 0.85386 / 0.870899 (86 shares, 73.4 BTC), 7D: 0.695 / 0.79714 / 0.9489 (1507 shares, 1201.3 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.74566 / 1 (2960 shares, 2207.2 BTC)	[12:03]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 53	[12:04]
gribble	There are currently 921.05612 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 48812.979279 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds	[12:04]
Chaang-Noi	;;last	[12:04]
gribble	[03:04:10] ;;asks 53	[12:04]
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BitHub	batch 3 worth getting?	[12:05]
Chaang-Noi	avalon?	[12:07]
BitHub	yeah	[12:08]
Chaang-Noi	without doing the math and the guess work, i would say i think so	[12:08]
BitHub	trippy	[12:08]
Chaang-Noi	has bfl shipped yet?	[12:08]
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Chaang-Noi	;;asks 53	[12:09]
gribble	There are currently 722.61371 bitcoins offered at or under 53.0 USD, worth 38298.5268802 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds	[12:09]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 52.99	[12:09]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 7.9715 seconds	[12:09]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 52.99	[12:12]
gribble	There are currently 38.803471 bitcoins offered at or under 52.99 USD, worth 2056.19594419 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds	[12:12]
deadweasel	;;goxlag	[12:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]	[12:24]
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ThickAsThieves	going for 54	[12:28]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[12:28]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 53.11001, Best ask: 53.48997, Bid-ask spread: 0.37996, Last trade: 53.11001, 24 hour volume: 86658.81830554, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 49.98340	[12:28]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 34	[12:31]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 34.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 20.6629 seconds	[12:31]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 54	[12:31]
gribble	There are currently 482.93073 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 26065.6459656 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 23.7521 seconds	[12:31]
Chaang-Noi	wow only 482	[12:31]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[12:31]
gribble	There are currently 6252.8908 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 342685.770975 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 45.6435 seconds	[12:31]
Chaang-Noi	6k is kinda of a wall :/	[12:31]
Chaang-Noi	;;gox lag	[12:33]
gribble	Error: "gox" is not a valid command.	[12:33]
Chaang-Noi	;;goxlag	[12:33]
gribble	0 seconds	[12:33]
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Chaang-Noi	;;asks 54	[12:45]
gribble	There are currently 897.77964 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 48343.2061181 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 33.4904 seconds	[12:45]
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kakobrekla	>I totally agree and we understand this. Timing is crucial and we have only a couple of months to make serious profits. Bitfury did not sleep for last 2 days :-)	[13:03]
kakobrekla	hehe	[13:03]
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Chaang-Noi	?	[13:08]
Chaang-Noi	i lack context	[13:08]
kakobrekla	asic	[13:08]
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Chaang-Noi	oh right	[13:08]
Chaang-Noi	are they selling batch 3 now?	[13:08]
tiberiusiv	avalon?	[13:09]
kakobrekla	this is bitfury	[13:09]
BitHub	yeah	[13:09]
BitHub	worth getting?	[13:09]
Chaang-Noi	what is bitfury?	[13:09]
Chaang-Noi	is bitfurry one of the fake asics?	[13:09]
kakobrekla	well, he he has the best know-how of them all	[13:10]
Line_	what's this password thing?	[13:10]
Chaang-Noi	im not sure who is doing the bitfury, i did not follow that stuff to closely	[13:10]
kakobrekla	bitfury is doing it	[13:11]
kakobrekla	:p	[13:11]
Chaang-Noi	never heard of them,	[13:11]
kakobrekla	are you on the same internet as we are?	[13:11]
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Bowjob	yawn	[13:11]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[13:12]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 53.60000, Best ask: 53.69991, Bid-ask spread: 0.09991, Last trade: 53.60000, 24 hour volume: 87411.56184324, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.87500, 24 hour vwap: 50.02467	[13:12]
Chaang-Noi	okay i did look at them before and assumed scam	[13:12]
Chaang-Noi	not a scam??	[13:12]
kakobrekla	well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy	[13:13]
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Chaang-Noi	hmm im going to pass	[13:15]
Chaang-Noi	for now at least]	[13:15]
vampireb	hmm did they deliver the fcpga?	[13:16]
kakobrekla	hm got booted	[13:16]
kakobrekla	12:16.27 ( kakobrekla ) [12:13:26] well dunno about the whole picostocks thingy	[13:16]
kakobrekla	but someone dumped him 350k to make the prototype chip	[13:17]
kakobrekla	vampireb yup but the devices never seen the light of public	[13:17]
kakobrekla	one of my friends got it	[13:17]
kakobrekla	twas a 10 chip spartan board	[13:17]
Chaang-Noi	hmm	[13:17]
kakobrekla	each runnin at 300mhash	[13:17]
Chaang-Noi	if real might be a great buy	[13:18]
kakobrekla	imma gonna try to get a board	[13:20]
Bowjob	i just woke up	[13:20]
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mjr_	;;ticker	[13:20]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 53.88798, Best ask: 53.88880, Bid-ask spread: 0.00082, Last trade: 53.88880, 24 hour volume: 87468.56354421, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 53.88880, 24 hour vwap: 50.03290	[13:20]
Line_	anyone paid with bitpay on here before?	[13:20]
Bowjob	looks like avalon is gearing for number 3	[13:20]
Bowjob	woot	[13:20]
Line_	There's no account i set up,right?	[13:21]
Chaang-Noi	no account no	[13:21]
Chaang-Noi	i used them with namecheap	[13:21]
Line_	ok	[13:21]
Chaang-Noi	did avlon ship number 2?	[13:21]
Bowjob	not that i know of	[13:21]
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Chaang-Noi	did they fully ship #1?	[13:21]
Line_	they have until the 15th according their website	[13:21]
Bowjob	they should by now. lots of ppl are reporting that they got theirs	[13:22]
Bowjob	i assume the rest are hush hush	[13:22]
Chaang-Noi	ok	[13:22]
Bowjob	i wonder if number 3 is a good buy	[13:22]
Bowjob	i wouldnt mind reselling them	[13:22]
kakobrekla	too bad they dont sell single modules	[13:23]
kakobrekla	dunno why	[13:23]
kakobrekla	would be so easy	[13:23]
Bowjob	mhm, id love another module on mine actually	[13:23]
kakobrekla	id put one in the computah	[13:23]
Chaang-Noi	you have one now?	[13:23]
leotreasure	i'm still waiting for avalon batch 1	[13:23]
Chaang-Noi	its hard for me to order batch 3 with not fully on batch 1	[13:24]
Chaang-Noi	its why i wont do bfl :/	[13:24]
Bowjob	better than bfl	[13:24]
Bowjob	infinitely better than bfl, actually	[13:24]
Chaang-Noi	shit and better shit is still shit :/	[13:24]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 54	[13:25]
gribble	There are currently 579.33782 bitcoins offered at or under 54.0 USD, worth 31281.906441 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 40.3135 seconds	[13:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50754217 = 1.0151 BTC [-]	[13:25]
Bowjob	suddenly people who have money in their mattress seem so fucking smart	[13:25]
mjr_	lol	[13:25]
mjr_	smarter than people with money in cypriot banks	[13:26]
Chaang-Noi	:)	[13:26]
kakobrekla	i have cas coin under my pillow	[13:26]
mjr_	less smart than people with money in bitcoins	[13:26]
Bowjob	I wanna travel to some other countries..	[13:26]
Chaang-Noi	2/3 of the money is russian money.. and tehy thought the russan govt would tax it, muhahahaha	[13:26]
Bowjob	but I fear I might be a target as a tourist	[13:26]
Bowjob	lol	[13:26]
kakobrekla	rape target?	[13:26]
Bowjob	nah, ransom one	[13:26]
kakobrekla	rape and ransom then.	[13:27]
Bowjob	lol	[13:27]
Bowjob	id need some sort of body guard	[13:27]
kakobrekla	yeah i was paranoid too when i was checkin prime miner	[13:28]
kakobrekla	so only took 1k btc with me	[13:28]
Bowjob	i think ill just stay in canada. ive seen too many beheadings	[13:28]
Bowjob	mexico is one scary place	[13:28]
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Chaang-Noi	lol	[13:29]
Chaang-Noi	i have been around, even war zones, no one has ever fucked with me	[13:29]
kakobrekla	pirate fucked with you	[13:30]
Bowjob	thailand seems a scary place too. ive seen bloated bodies everywhere	[13:30]
Bowjob	tho, the food is pretty nice	[13:30]
Chaang-Noi	that is what i hear kakobrekla	[13:30]
Bowjob	lots of trap it seems	[13:30]
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pizzaman1337	;;ticker	[13:31]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 53.99001, Best ask: 54.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00999, Last trade: 54.00000, 24 hour volume: 87866.28367331, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.05095	[13:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]	[13:31]
kakobrekla	;;bc,convert eur	[13:31]
gribble	1 BTC = 53.98003 U.S. dollars = 41.7027426 Euros	[13:31]
kakobrekla	42 is alright.	[13:32]
kakobrekla	the answer to everything ya know...	[13:32]
tiberiusiv	cyprus losses are positive for the euro	[13:32]
kakobrekla	hm?	[13:33]
tiberiusiv	people will now do due deligience when choosing banks vs accepting any ridiculous interest rate	[13:34]
tiberiusiv	and deposit losses are deflationary	[13:34]
kakobrekla	the interests rate is going negative	[13:34]
Chaang-Noi	there goes 54	[13:35]
tiberiusiv	because credit is contracting	[13:35]
Bowjob	I checked my bank, they advertised 1.89% GIC for 18 months as sizzling rate	[13:35]
kakobrekla	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png	[13:35]
tiberiusiv	all the deposits have been lent out	[13:35]
kakobrekla	its all thin	[13:35]
tiberiusiv	losing 9% is better then losing 100%	[13:35]
Chaang-Noi	after 55 nothing really to 60	[13:35]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[13:36]
gribble	There are currently 5818.8542 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 319138.813903 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds	[13:36]
tiberiusiv	bowjob: most of the depositors in cyprys were earning high rates for a decade +	[13:36]
Chaang-Noi	could take a day	[13:36]
Bowjob	how much?	[13:36]
tiberiusiv	bowjob: the cyprus banks held all their $$ in greek bonds	[13:36]
Chaang-Noi	greek bonds :) silly russians	[13:36]
tiberiusiv	sure when deposit insurance guarantees your account	[13:37]
tiberiusiv	you dont care what the bank does with the $	[13:37]
tiberiusiv	the depositers are recieving a great deal, 9% loss or 100%	[13:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.50663276 = 1.0133 BTC [-]	[13:37]
tiberiusiv	same is in the US, all deposits have been lent out, they are sitting in mortgages, ccs, bonds, carloans	[13:38]
mjr_	it's a wonderful life?	[13:39]
mjr_	yes, you don't actually have money in the bank	[13:39]
mjr_	you have a promise from the bank to pay you when you ask	[13:39]
tiberiusiv	yes	[13:39]
tiberiusiv	if rates rise in the US the entire banking system will be insolvent	[13:40]
Chaang-Noi	so the insurance is not being paid? lulz, time for scammer tag	[13:40]
tiberiusiv	and there wont be quality assets for the fed to buy	[13:40]
mjr_	cyprus situation is fucked up	[13:40]
mjr_	scammer tag on cyprus govt?	[13:40]
Chaang-Noi	:)	[13:40]
tiberiusiv	chaang: its impossible for the government to insure the accounts, the insurance fund does not even cover 1%	[13:40]
tiberiusiv	chaang: for example in the US, the FDIC has maybe 1% in reserve to cover deposits	[13:40]
Chaang-Noi	scammer tag time then?	[13:41]
tiberiusiv	mjr_: depositors had over 2 years to realize cyprus banks were bust	[13:41]
tiberiusiv	how is it a sudden thing? everyone knew cyprus banks held all their assets as greek bonds	[13:42]
tiberiusiv	why were the locals all surprised, did they not read the news for the last 24 months lol	[13:42]
mjr_	that is not the point	[13:43]
mjr_	i am sure lots of people (prob those least likely to be harmed) got their money out	[13:43]
mjr_	the point is i gave you money, you said it was insured and that you would pay it when i asked, you broke your promise to pay	[13:43]
tiberiusiv	thats your fault for trusting in government	[13:44]
mjr_	since all you gave me in return for my money was your promise to pay, the fact that you can't do that one thing...scammer	[13:44]
tiberiusiv	you have thousands of years of history to look back on government defaulting	[13:44]
mjr_	oh of course	[13:44]
mjr_	and i don't keep money in banks	[13:44]
mjr_	btc FTW	[13:44]
tiberiusiv	not to mention cyprys residents had 6 years since greece became shaky	[13:44]
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mjr_	i'm just saying, more than likely it will be small business owners and average working people who will be hurt in cyprus	[13:45]
tiberiusiv	well theres a reason they are average and working	[13:45]
mjr_	they weren't using the bank as a "tax haven" they were using it as a "bank"	[13:45]
mjr_	anyway, i'm with you on that, don't trust govt or banks	[13:45]
mjr_	just saying, this is the reason i don't trust them	[13:45]
tiberiusiv	instead of spending most of their time watching sports and drinking wine they should have devoted even 30minutes to read the bear case	[13:45]
mjr_	whether they should have seen it coming does not excuse the fact that they did that	[13:46]
mjr_	and again, they get hurt, but not because they deserve it, it is of course in their best interest to look out for themselves and not get hurt	[13:46]
mjr_	but you still can find fault with the one hurting them	[13:46]
tiberiusiv	i think people should lose 100% of their deposits	[13:47]
tiberiusiv	globally	[13:47]
tiberiusiv	teach people a good lesson about being naive and lazy	[13:47]
*	jurov reads scrollback... so everyone has to get STD transmitter license, yea?	[13:47]
jurov	tiberiusiv, can i extend that to coinbr? but i have everything on mpex anyway :/	[13:48]
tiberiusiv	all global deposits are lent out	[13:48]
mircea_popescu	lol listen tiberiusiv, something like a 30 to 40% haircut => collapse.	[13:49]
tiberiusiv	you cant really avoid it though	[13:50]
tiberiusiv	the debt has already been created	[13:50]
tiberiusiv	70 years of debt creation has to end at some point	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	this is true, but no government ever has or ever will survive a one third haircut of assets.	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	that's roughly the equivalent of foreign invasion.	[13:51]
tiberiusiv	plus all the real wealth in the world will not be lost	[13:51]
tiberiusiv	well the only other option is to attempt to inflate away	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[13:51]
tiberiusiv	problem with that arguement is the debt size is simply too large	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	nah.	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	nothing is too large for inflation.	[13:52]
tiberiusiv	in advanced economies the bond markets are huge, they will increase rates on any inflate attempts	[13:52]
tiberiusiv	total credit market debt in US is 58trillion, bernanke is having a difficult time creating 3tril	[13:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]	[13:53]
tiberiusiv	mircea: if it wasnt too large to inflate, then greek bonds would have been made 100% whole	[13:53]
mircea_popescu	tiberiusiv there's a problem of marginality here,.	[13:54]
mircea_popescu	inflate for the greeks ? why ?	[13:54]
tiberiusiv	you arent bailing greeks out but greek creditors	[13:55]
tiberiusiv	which are trade surplus nations like germany	[13:55]
mjr_	trade surplus just means "we make things people want"	[13:55]
tiberiusiv	no it means you run a vendor financing model	[13:55]
tiberiusiv	germany sends products out on credit	[13:55]
tiberiusiv	the "export" economy will collapse	[13:56]
tiberiusiv	think of germany as a large department store, and all of its customers use only the store credit card to purchase goods	[13:56]
tiberiusiv	then the bill comes due and no one can pay	[13:57]
tiberiusiv	in the meantime all your factories are leveraged to the hilt from borrowing to expand, to meet fake demand	[13:57]
tiberiusiv	that is germany	[13:57]
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mircea_popescu	well... perhaps exaggerated but certainly something to it.	[14:00]
tiberiusiv	notice how german industry bought up so many firms over the last decade?	[14:01]
tiberiusiv	ie especially in car manufacturing	[14:01]
tiberiusiv	volkswagen is highly leveraged	[14:01]
tiberiusiv	they own like 80% of EU automakers	[14:01]
tiberiusiv	thats all from operational debt incurred to expand production of cars nobody could afford	[14:01]
tiberiusiv	largest losses will happen to creditors like germany at some point	[14:02]
mjr_	well...perhaps there is something to the old saying "neither a borrower or a lender be..."	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[14:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 53.79901, Best ask: 53.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 53.80000, 24 hour volume: 89545.76316294, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 54.28880, 24 hour vwap: 50.13851	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	looking sweet.	[14:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50240325 = 502.4033 BTC [-]	[14:12]
pizzaman1337	500 btc? nice	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	heh	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m p750t	[14:13]
assbot	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 7D: 0.50240325 / 0.50243028 / 0.50754217 (1006 shares, 505.44 BTC), 30D: 0.50240325 / 1.04607226 / 1.53153505 (29789 shares, 31,161.45 BTC)	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	that line got 30k worth of trades thios month, it;'s been crazy	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	"we hope to be able to finally be back to regular delays by April."	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[14:14]
tiberiusiv	is that a 75 call option?	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	put	[14:17]
Chaang-Noi	what is the price on a call option for 30 d for 75 btc?	[14:18]
tiberiusiv	30k of volume is quite a bit	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	$depth O.BTCUSD.C750T	[14:19]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Bids: []	[14:19]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081']	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	hum	[14:19]
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Chaang-Noi	!ticker m c750t	[14:19]
assbot	You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey.	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	$depth O.BTCUSD.C750T	[14:20]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Bids: ['1000 @ 2']	[14:20]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1 @ 1425081', '1000 @ 5181251']	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	costs you about half a btc to buy, get 2 satoshi per if you sell	[14:21]
Chaang-Noi	large spread	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	im sorry	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	like 0.05 btc not 0.5	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	miscounted them digits	[14:22]
mjr_	!ticker m c410t	[14:22]
assbot	[MPEX:O.BTCUSD.C410T] 1D: 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 / 0.23958397 (4 shares, 0.96 BTC), 7D: 0.23 / 0.23479198 / 0.23958397 (8 shares, 1.88 BTC), 30D: 0.12612881 / 0.19916485 / 0.23958397 (15018 shares, 2,991.06 BTC)	[14:22]
Chaang-Noi	and that is per contract?	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[14:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50210205 = 502.1021 BTC [-]	[14:23]
mjr_	what does the (4 shares, 0.96 BTC) mean?	[14:23]
mjr_	is that outstanding?	[14:23]
Chaang-Noi	so if i spent 1 btc i would get 20 contracts, so if btc went to 75 or more i then get them, or just the fiat over 75?	[14:23]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ that 4 contracts worth .96 btc were traded	[14:23]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi if btc goes to 76 you get (76 - 75) / 76	[14:24]
mjr_	mircea_popescu: thanks, that was me...so i was wondering why my trade was on there	[14:24]
mircea_popescu	call means you get whatever's over the strike	[14:24]
Chaang-Noi	in fiat?	[14:24]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi no, in btc.	[14:24]
Bowjob	hey chang	[14:24]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ well... what do you mean why ? cause it was traded	[14:24]
Chaang-Noi	but the btc will be valued at the current price	[14:24]
Bowjob	wanna crash LTC again?	[14:24]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi no, at the then current price. hence the /76 if price is 76	[14:24]
Chaang-Noi	bowjob i have been thinking about it, all down to .008 but not right now	[14:24]
Bowjob	right	[14:25]
Bowjob	id appreciate a heads up Lol	[14:25]
mjr_	mircea_popescu: was just curious, i sold half my position of the 41 calls for .96 btc (4 contracts) i still have four more :)	[14:25]
Bowjob	I managed to arb 6 BTC from 10 to 11	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	it only shows what's traded	[14:25]
Bowjob	then I got out	[14:25]
Bowjob	xD	[14:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]	[14:25]
Chaang-Noi	so to get 20x 1/76 a btc it would not be worth spending 1 btc, lol	[14:25]
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mircea_popescu	depends where the price goes.	[14:26]
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Chaang-Noi	75 is already way out of the money	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	if it goes to 200 you get 125 / 200 = .62 each x 20 = 13 btc so like 13x	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	but yes probably better calls to buy than the 75	[14:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [-]	[14:26]
Chaang-Noi	.05 is just way to high, that low ass bid is fine,	[14:27]
mircea_popescu	well, you can make and sell your own if you want.	[14:27]
Chaang-Noi	im sure they would love to have that filled	[14:27]
mircea_popescu	anyway, far out of the money calls are great from a fiat perspective. say you are sure btc is going to 500. what can you do ?	[14:27]
mircea_popescu	well... you could send 50k usd to an exchange and buy 1000 btc. but this takes time and all the bs.	[14:28]
Chaang-Noi	1000% in 30 days is a bit much	[14:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [-]	[14:28]
mircea_popescu	you could also buy 20 btc and then buy options with them, gain 400 btc exposure that way	[14:28]
Chaang-Noi	yerah there are uses for options, i used to trade them when oil was doing so well	[14:28]
Chaang-Noi	but that .05 price is just unreasonable	[14:28]
mjr_	its a nice way to give yourself exposure	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	so you look at it... well i bought 50 dollars worth of 1 btc, got 20 calls at 75, now i made 13 btc which are worth 200 each. so from 50 to 2600 dollars.	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	in a fiat perspective	[14:29]
Chaang-Noi	yeah but im all in crypto	[14:29]
mjr_	is jurov on right now?	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi then probably selling puts is better for you	[14:29]
mjr_	i was wondering if you could write options on coinbr...	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	anyway	[14:29]
Chaang-Noi	im pretty bullish	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	with all the problems us people have buying esp large ammts of btc	[14:30]
Bowjob	the oix changed drastically	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	options are kinda a must for them	[14:30]
mjr_	i would like to sell puts and buy calls at a certain price	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m ^oix	[14:30]
assbot	[MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: / 57.53184036 / 57.53184036 (6757 shares, 788.72 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC)	[14:30]
Bowjob	theres this house for sale in dallas	[14:30]
Bowjob	for 8j BTC	[14:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50180097 = 501.801 BTC [-]	[14:31]
Bowjob	8k	[14:31]
Bowjob	pretty cool looking	[14:31]
mjr_	heard there was an apt for rent in bitcoins in spain	[14:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.856 BTC [+]	[14:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.8649 = 2.5947 BTC [+]	[14:34]
mjr_	did anyone hear about etoro? was that just a rumor?	[14:34]
Bowjob	its legit	[14:34]
Chaang-Noi	?	[14:34]
mjr_	i couldn't find it on their site	[14:34]
Bowjob	another bullish sign	[14:34]
mjr_	yeah true	[14:34]
Bowjob	i wish i didnt play dice back then lol	[14:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8649 = 1.7298 BTC [+]	[14:35]
Bowjob	id have even more money now	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	more money mopre problesm	[14:37]
Chaang-Noi	:)	[14:37]
Bowjob	lol	[14:38]
Bowjob	firstworldproblems	[14:38]
Bowjob	i cant really complain.. ill be rich off of this	[14:38]
Bowjob	heh	[14:38]
Bowjob	electrum is slow	[14:39]
Bowjob	the dollar amount shows 47 per coin	[14:39]
tiberiusiv	what was the etoro news?	[14:41]
Bowjob	then again I wish I went all in, including some unemployment, I would have gotten avout $150 grand by now	[14:41]
Bowjob	back in december	[14:41]
Bowjob	hehe	[14:41]
Bowjob	etoro will basically start trading btc	[14:42]
Bowjob	http://www.etoro.com/blog/markets/13032013/bitcoin-the-top-performing-currency-in-the-world/	[14:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00076039 = 6.7295 BTC [+]	[14:42]
tiberiusiv	coulda shoulda woulda	[14:43]
tiberiusiv	where did they announce that	[14:43]
tiberiusiv	damn thats very positive news	[14:44]
Bowjob	on the internet	[14:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1000 @ 0.50089845 = 500.8985 BTC [-]	[14:45]
tiberiusiv	might take huge market share away from mtgox?	[14:45]
Bowjob	would it be favourable for someone who bought a mini rig eons ago to capitulate and wait to pre order avalon # 3 instead?	[14:45]
tiberiusiv	etoro was more of a gambling site	[14:45]
Chaang-Noi	attack on 55	[14:46]
Chaang-Noi	gamblers love btc	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-officers-rifle-mistake-2013-3#ixzz2NdngHBQy	[14:46]
tiberiusiv	when will BFL just default	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	tiberiusiv probably never.	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	it will just fade for six months or a year, then some clueless nitwit a la Ryan Singer will "bring it back"	[14:47]
tiberiusiv	think they will come through?	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	doesn't seem likely	[14:47]
Chaang-Noi	bfl or tf?	[14:48]
Chaang-Noi	i mean th	[14:48]
Bowjob	http://i.imgur.com/cbUmsFc.jpg?1	[14:48]
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tiberiusiv	wont etoro take substantial marketshare from mtgox	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	i guess mtgox is basically imploding.	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	they were bleeding market share pretty much monthly since 2011 or so	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	but by now...	[14:49]
Chaang-Noi	bowjob i just looked at ltc, it would take more than what i want to spend to get ltc under .08	[14:49]
Chaang-Noi	no realy point in it	[14:49]
mircea_popescu	going back to trading cards i guess	[14:49]
Bowjob	ah, kk	[14:49]
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Chaang-Noi	i will be happy when mt gox has less than 105 market share	[14:50]
Bowjob	it seems to be dropping like a rock	[14:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49456206 = 0.9891 BTC [-]	[14:50]
Chaang-Noi	lots of support in the .08 to .088 range	[14:50]
tiberiusiv	LTC has no liquidity at all	[14:50]
Bowjob	im glad to got rid of it at 0.11	[14:50]
Bowjob	earlier	[14:50]
Bowjob	i bought at 0.1 too lol	[14:50]
Chaang-Noi	i bought in the .002 to .003 range :)	[14:50]
Bowjob	lol	[14:50]
Bowjob	yeha	[14:50]
Bowjob	gh	[14:50]
Bowjob	gj	[14:50]
Chaang-Noi	i did not expect what it did, and that is why i sold almost 100k of ltc	[14:51]
tiberiusiv	$5k has like 30% price movements	[14:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49700001 = 496.006 BTC [+]	[14:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.35270204 = 0.7054 BTC [-]	[14:51]
Chaang-Noi	but i wont sell more, in a year it will be much higher, esp if we get it listed at trade hill	[14:51]
kakobrekla	i made 100% on ltc in a few days as well	[14:51]
kakobrekla	play money but w/e	[14:51]
tiberiusiv	yea but what ammount 2btc?	[14:51]
Bowjob	well btc will be much higher too	[14:51]
kakobrekla	i was out yesterday	[14:51]
Bowjob	so cant go wrong	[14:51]
kakobrekla	i have 0	[14:51]
kakobrekla	tiberiusiv a bit more	[14:52]
kakobrekla	not much	[14:52]
kakobrekla	again, play money	[14:52]
kakobrekla	imho ltc is going to be dead	[14:52]
kakobrekla	by end of 2013	[14:52]
tiberiusiv	why would ltc go anywhere? it just offers nothing	[14:52]
kakobrekla	it will go alright	[14:53]
kakobrekla	in the grave	[14:53]
Chaang-Noi	lol ltc is a scam like btc right?	[14:53]
tiberiusiv	how many google clones have done well?	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	tiberiusiv the one reasonable explanation i heard so far is arbitraring bitcoin testing	[14:53]
kakobrekla	Chaang-Noi its not useful over btc	[14:53]
kakobrekla	Chaang-Noi the usefullnes is zero	[14:53]
Chaang-Noi	when btc is forked it sure is:)	[14:53]
tiberiusiv	bit more what?	[14:53]
mircea_popescu	ie, they have free testing, stuff like the berkley db etc	[14:53]
imsaguy	litecoin isn't a bitcoin test	[14:53]
imsaguy	testnet is a bitcoin test	[14:53]
mjr_	dude did you guys hear about berlusconi?	[14:53]
tiberiusiv	oh price	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	imsaguy no, bitcoin is litecoin's testcoin	[14:54]
Chaang-Noi	bitcoin is a ltc test:)	[14:54]
imsaguy	mjr_: did you ask if we cared?	[14:54]
mjr_	imsaguy: sorry, do you care?	[14:54]
imsaguy	no.	[14:54]
Chaang-Noi	ltc is bitcoins backup	[14:54]
kakobrekla	lol	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	mjr_ what about him ?	[14:54]
mjr_	figured that was a rhetorical question	[14:54]
tiberiusiv	the litecoin people dont understand that ASICs increase ltc difficulty as well	[14:54]
Chaang-Noi	btc has forked or too many transactions, use ltc:)	[14:54]
mjr_	mircea_popescu: 4 million a month in alimony	[14:54]
kakobrekla	if btc fails, lts will be worth -10	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	hahaha lire ?	[14:54]
mjr_	dollars	[14:54]
mircea_popescu	lol gtfo. to how manywomen ?	[14:55]
tiberiusiv	as less efficient miners drop out of bitcoin, they increase ltc difficulty	[14:55]
mjr_	his wife said: it would be more dignified to stop here...i can't stay with a man who consorts with minors	[14:55]
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mjr_	after he attended an 18 year old models birthday party	[14:55]
Chaang-Noi	making ltcs network strong help move the price up	[14:55]
mjr_	like, sure, cheat on me...but please do it with more age appropriate women	[14:55]
Chaang-Noi	how many times did he see her before 18? lol	[14:55]
mjr_	no clue	[14:55]
mjr_	just crazy though	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	when i'm 70 i'll prolly be doing 17 yos too	[14:55]
Bowjob	drop to 0.008	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	it's an old man thing	[14:56]
Bowjob	mp you catholic?	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	nope	[14:56]
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tiberiusiv	if bitcoin fails that will be the end of crypto for a decade +	[14:56]
Bowjob	k i thought it was just a cathloic thing	[14:56]
Bowjob	lol	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	lol	[14:56]
tiberiusiv	no it doesnt	[14:56]
mjr_	tiberiusiv: i think that its biggest threat is something better	[14:56]
kakobrekla	no, they handle the boys Bowjob	[14:56]
tiberiusiv	thats a complete myth chaang	[14:56]
mjr_	and if that happens, it will be that new thing	[14:56]
Bowjob	why is it always boys	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob the fact is, the way the human body works first pregnancy should be delivered around 18 years of age.	[14:56]
Bowjob	i dont get it	[14:56]
mircea_popescu	so...	[14:56]
kakobrekla	cause we are sexy w/o the makeup	[14:57]
tiberiusiv	ltc was made so people who cant afford to invest into equip can continue "mining"	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	Bowjob i think it's girls with berlusconi neh ?	[14:57]
Bowjob	who	[14:57]
Bowjob	oh that guy	[14:57]
Bowjob	but hes not catholic priest	[14:57]
tiberiusiv	the problem is that BTC asics increase litecoin difficulty	[14:57]
tiberiusiv	making the ltc benefit void	[14:57]
mircea_popescu	this conversation is layered in such a way...	[14:58]
kakobrekla	:D	[14:58]
imsaguy	jurov, when's hte big payday?	[14:58]
Bowjob	litecoin dropping like a bitch	[14:58]
tiberiusiv	mircea: do you think coinlab succeeds?	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	what's your definition of succes ?	[14:59]
Chaang-Noi	age of consent here is 15, 18 is getting on the old side for the culture here	[14:59]
Chaang-Noi	ltc did not even hit that resistance at .088 i told you about	[15:00]
imsaguy	mircea_popescu: SEC investigation	[15:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 2 @ 0.49154267 = 0.9831 BTC [+]	[15:00]
imsaguy	every good startup has one.	[15:00]
Bowjob	what resistance i dont see it	[15:00]
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Chaang-Noi	it is still there	[15:01]
Bowjob	were down to 0.0087, no resistance	[15:01]
kakobrekla	hehe	[15:01]
tiberiusiv	large client base?	[15:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.49252684 = 491.5418 BTC [+]	[15:01]
Bowjob	its at 0.0082	[15:01]
mircea_popescu	tiberiusiv https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1641662#msg1641662	[15:01]
kakobrekla	cause its useless	[15:01]
Chaang-Noi	it fell faster than i expected	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	I am Chunyan 22 years old from China http://www.girlsfromasia.ru/	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[15:02]
mjr_	;;ticker	[15:03]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 54.64859, Best ask: 54.99989, Bid-ask spread: 0.35130, Last trade: 54.64859, 24 hour volume: 94878.61374780, 24 hour low: 47.31000, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.40729	[15:03]
Chaang-Noi	its at 0.0082 ---- what??	[15:03]
Chaang-Noi	Last Price: 0.00909 BTC	[15:04]
Chaang-Noi	Low: 0.0085 BTC	[15:04]
Chaang-Noi	High: 0.013 BTC	[15:04]
Chaang-Noi	you from 2 weeks ago?	[15:04]
Bowjob	no i mean the support	[15:04]
Bowjob	400 BTC support at 0.0082	[15:04]
Chaang-Noi	ahh	[15:04]
Bowjob	imo take the profits and run	[15:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6273 @ 0.00075833 = 4.757 BTC [-]	[15:05]
Bowjob	you cant go wrong either way	[15:05]
Chaang-Noi	like 800 btc to get to .008	[15:05]
Bowjob	then when that support is down, its all downhil	[15:05]
Bowjob	buy cheaper	[15:05]
Bowjob	lol	[15:06]
kakobrekla	someone said tradehill?	[15:06]
Chaang-Noi	i took some profit, i made like 600% even if i lose everything else i hold, im not worried	[15:06]
kakobrekla	oh no, it was downhill.	[15:06]
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Bowjob	this is highly lucrative	[15:06]
Bowjob	heh	[15:06]
Chaang-Noi	90k ltc dump to get to .008, i wont do it	[15:06]
Chaang-Noi	i fear i wont get it back	[15:07]
pgp	tradehill lesson - don't write check with your mouth that you butt can't cash	[15:07]
kakobrekla	ofc not	[15:07]
kakobrekla	cause its useless	[15:07]
Chaang-Noi	yeah btc was useless after 1.5 years too	[15:07]
kakobrekla	yeah and now is useful cause we didnt have btc	[15:07]
kakobrekla	:)	[15:08]
Chaang-Noi	when btc is forked you dont have btc now either:)	[15:08]
kakobrekla	..	[15:08]
Chaang-Noi	ill sell more ltc once this may 15th stuff is over	[15:08]
Chaang-Noi	cuz if tehy fuck up btc lol	[15:08]
kakobrekla	i see litecoin is somewhat like debian	[15:09]
kakobrekla	stable means all developers have been dead for years	[15:09]
Bowjob	My stupid friend is now kicking himself for not buying BTC at 17	[15:09]
Chaang-Noi	if it works it works, btc is ltcs test coin	[15:10]
kakobrekla	Bowjob tell him he will be kickin himself later for not buying at 55	[15:10]
Bowjob	everytime it goes up, he says... BTC will go down. when BTC goes down, he says BTC will go down further	[15:10]
Bowjob	tahts his reasoning every fucking time	[15:10]
Bowjob	from 17 to 55	[15:10]
kakobrekla	i hear that a lot	[15:10]
Chaang-Noi	i told freinds and family to buy at 3.5 never said shit again	[15:10]
Bowjob	i gave hima heads up at the flash crash	[15:11]
Chaang-Noi	people slowly come back and be like, still good time to but,	[15:11]
Bowjob	he said btc will die	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4857348 BTC [-]	[15:11]
Bowjob	so he could buy	[15:11]
pgp	the 'hill is back up...	[15:11]
Chaang-Noi	yup	[15:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49193244 = 491.4405 BTC [+]	[15:11]
pgp	i wonder, do you think that they are just running a gox shadow book?	[15:11]
Bowjob	I told him since he's such a sensitive guy, I can sell him $100 worth of bitcoins	[15:11]
Bowjob	for 1.81 BTC	[15:12]
pgp	when the connection to gox dies - so does their "prime" order book	[15:12]
Bowjob	he wants to buy 5 BTC now, and pretend he got them at "$20 each"	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	pgp now this is an interestinfg observatiob	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	n*	[15:12]
Bowjob	im like, lol nope	[15:12]
kakobrekla	stabinthefacehill	[15:13]
pgp	either they are the worst technologists ever or they are relying on third party	[15:13]
kakobrekla	its prime, ya know.	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	certainly the 2nd seems plausible.	[15:13]
mircea_popescu	1st being a certainty.	[15:13]
pgp	lol	[15:14]
Bowjob	chang, is that yours the 374 BTC sell	[15:14]
Bowjob	at 0.0094	[15:14]
Chaang-Noi	no	[15:14]
Chaang-Noi	and that 500 btc wall is down	[15:15]
jurov	mjr_ yes i'm here, pm me	[15:15]
jurov	and sorry for mpex.coinbr.com problem, forgot to update the configs :/	[15:17]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[15:17]
gribble	There are currently 2255.5627 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 124055.895521 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds	[15:17]
Chaang-Noi	wall is falling faster than i expected	[15:17]
pgp	that is exactly what they are doing... they are showing the gox book $.55 worse... lol...	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[15:19]
pgp	I'd call that a scam, unless, of course, it's "free" to trade with them, in which case they are embedding the gox commission in their prices. In any case, their pathetic relaunched "website" has no information on fees...	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	pgp im quoting this.	[15:19]
pgp	be my guest	[15:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48888954 BTC [-]	[15:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3127 @ 0.00075423 = 2.3585 BTC [-]	[15:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5950 @ 0.00076039 = 4.5243 BTC [+]	[15:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3539 @ 0.00076091 = 2.6929 BTC [+]	[15:22]
pgp	go to bitfinex for the proof	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/children-and-their-delusions-today-jared-kenna-and-ryan-singer/#comment-92405	[15:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49044849 = 489.958 BTC [+]	[15:22]
pgp	yep - tradehill is offering gox at a 1.0% markup	[15:23]
Bowjob	misspelled gavin's last name	[15:24]
*	mircea_popescu looks	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	haha indeed. thansk	[15:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]	[15:26]
Bowjob	np	[15:26]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[15:28]
gribble	There are currently 2388.2445 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 131351.566213 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 98.2296 seconds	[15:28]
Bowjob	wall is falling down	[15:28]
Bowjob	btc-e trollbox are now patting each other's back at BTC's downfall	[15:29]
Bowjob	and LTC's rise	[15:29]
Bowjob	"coinman1980: when ltc eventually gets media attention btc will suffer"	[15:29]
mircea_popescu	lolk	[15:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48338803 BTC [-]	[15:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.49015205 = 489.6619 BTC [+]	[15:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]	[15:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01498 BTC [+]	[15:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.01499 = 0.2099 BTC [+]	[15:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 150 @ 0.0049 = 0.735 BTC [+]	[15:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.015 = 0.075 BTC [+]	[15:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.016 = 0.08 BTC [+]	[15:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017 BTC [+]	[15:35]
Bowjob	This is what "enlightened" 14 year olds think about bitcoin	[15:35]
Bowjob	http://lurkerfaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/65241750/	[15:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0175 BTC [+]	[15:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]	[15:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.105 = 0.84 BTC [-]	[15:36]
mircea_popescu	As a currency for purchasing power, I grew up with the US dollar so I'm used to having stability enforced by people way more powerful than myself. If I were stuck using certain other national currencies, I would probably be more inclined to appreciate bitcoin's efforts. Especially if that currency was subject to BS levels of printing printing printing.	[15:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 2 @ 0.4748 = 0.9496 BTC [-]	[15:37]
mircea_popescu	sounds legit.	[15:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]	[15:37]
BitHub	i seen asicminer selling for 1btc on bitcointalk forums	[15:38]
Chaang-Noi	links??	[15:38]
Chaang-Noi	cuz i have a few to sell :)	[15:38]
Bowjob	asicminer going for 1 BTC means	[15:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0099 = 0.0297 BTC [-]	[15:39]
Bowjob	that someone is expecting asicminer to make more than 400k BTC?	[15:39]
BitHub	cant be bothered searching for it	[15:39]
Bowjob	thats scary	[15:39]
BitHub	its in there somewhere	[15:39]
BitHub	TradeFortress Auction? i think	[15:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 20 @ 0.0099 = 0.198 BTC [-]	[15:40]
Bowjob	;;ticker	[15:40]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 54.70013, Best ask: 54.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04987, Last trade: 54.70000, 24 hour volume: 95343.84225840, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.52650	[15:40]
Chaang-Noi	iv been very active on asicminer threads on the form and im going to call bs on the 1btc thing	[15:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48741637 BTC [-]	[15:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]	[15:41]
Chaang-Noi	maybe someone offered it at that but not many trades will have been done at that price	[15:41]
BitHub	50 shares i believe	[15:41]
Chaang-Noi	ill belive 1 50 share block at that price, but its too high...	[15:42]
Chaang-Noi	wall at 55 is getting ibgger :/	[15:42]
kakobrekla	why you sad	[15:42]
kakobrekla	LITECOIN!!!	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[15:42]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 54.70001, Best ask: 54.89998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19997, Last trade: 54.89999, 24 hour volume: 95603.50817862, 24 hour low: 47.41103, 24 hour high: 55.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.53990	[15:42]
Chaang-Noi	lol, im happy ltc:)	[15:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48926344 = 488.7742 BTC [+]	[15:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.01334 BTC [+]	[15:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-]	[15:44]
kakobrekla	!l m s.dice	[15:44]
assbot	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]	[15:44]
Bowjob	someone lost 400 BTC on dice 12 hrs ago	[15:45]
Bowjob	thats... idk lol	[15:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]	[15:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48666662 BTC [-]	[15:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.4874894 BTC [+]	[15:52]
Bowjob	http://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/	[15:52]
Bowjob	I believe the trollbox is in stage 1. It can be remedied if LTC stops falling like a brick.	[15:52]
Chaang-Noi	anyone know if one could get a phD after an MBA?	[15:55]
Chaang-Noi	or have to get a different type of masters?	[15:55]
Bowjob	whoa. theymos is 21 years old?? WTf	[15:55]
Chaang-Noi	yeah	[15:55]
Bowjob	i thought hes an old dude	[15:55]
Chaang-Noi	nope	[15:55]
Bowjob	im just 1 year younger than him lol	[15:56]
Chaang-Noi	one of the reasons why no one expects much of him	[15:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 998 @ 0.4874894 = 486.5144 BTC [+]	[15:56]
kakobrekla	well that explains a lot.	[15:56]
Chaang-Noi	kako did not know that?	[15:57]
kakobrekla	nope	[15:57]
Chaang-Noi	i think its why the forum staff is so yoing and trollish	[15:57]
kakobrekla	bitcoin is buncha kids with money for sure	[15:57]
kakobrekla	but didnt know twas dat bad	[15:57]
Chaang-Noi	yeah.... it is	[15:57]
Chaang-Noi	i was thinking and a few years tehre are going to be all these millionarie 20 eyar olds	[15:58]
kakobrekla	like richie riches	[15:58]
kakobrekla	with their own mcdonalds	[15:58]
kakobrekla	n stuff	[15:58]
Bowjob	yah me	[15:59]
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Bowjob	thinking of a black lambo	[15:59]
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Chaang-Noi	many will sell out after geting 100% return, like some people did with ltc :)	[15:59]
Bowjob	im up by 5x, almost	[15:59]
kakobrekla	with time, institutions will hold most btc	[15:59]
Bowjob	riding this bull to the top	[15:59]
Chaang-Noi	honestly if i get a lot of money i wont really buy anything, i will travel a bit more	[16:00]
Chaang-Noi	want has go to anartica	[16:00]
Bowjob	when my holdings are worth more than a country's entier gdp, the world is my playground	[16:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.48443619 BTC [-]	[16:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 999 @ 0.48483624 = 484.3514 BTC [+]	[16:01]
Chaang-Noi	why all these 75 puts?	[16:01]
kakobrekla	> usagi: The company owns it. Essentially, since I am liable for it, I own it.	[16:01]
kakobrekla	liable for silver but not cpa debt	[16:01]
kakobrekla	kinda strange isnt it	[16:01]
Chaang-Noi	i dont even try	[16:02]
kakobrekla	>and I'm sure once you get on track with how we operate you will understand it. Until then, rest assured that everything is okay here.	[16:03]
kakobrekla	is this some sort of a fan club?	[16:03]
Chaang-Noi	no idea	[16:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 22 @ 0.8649 = 19.0278 BTC [+]	[16:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]	[16:04]
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mjr_	ok, i have not seen one mention of bitcoin being either traded or used to fund accounts on etoro	[16:06]
mjr_	they have blogged about it a little	[16:07]
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mjr_	but there is no mention of them accepting it or allowing you to trade it	[16:07]
kakobrekla	it will be traded as cfd	[16:07]
kakobrekla	is all	[16:07]
mjr_	ok...where is the link where i can see that pair?	[16:07]
kakobrekla	not yet	[16:07]
mjr_	its not under commodity or currency...did they do a press release or something?	[16:07]
kakobrekla	it was bloged	[16:08]
mjr_	well...i am sure they are interested in doing it, but i was hoping for an announcement	[16:08]
mjr_	also...i am not sure how you offer a CFD in the US	[16:10]
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Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[16:11]
gribble	There are currently 2625.7187 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 144414.136288 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 26.7392 seconds	[16:11]
mjr_	http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/04/09/another-market-not-available-to-u-s-citizens/	[16:12]
kakobrekla	lul	[16:13]
kakobrekla	us is fucked	[16:13]
mjr_	so yeah...US sucks	[16:13]
mjr_	not allowed to do CFD	[16:14]
kakobrekla	i told before	[16:14]
kakobrekla	bitcoiners should move to yurop	[16:14]
mjr_	or south america	[16:14]
mjr_	i was wondering what the bitcoin evnironment was like in the philippines	[16:14]
Diablo-D3	europe is falling apart anyhow	[16:14]
mjr_	they have a huge market for remittances	[16:14]
kakobrekla	Diablo-D3 thats the beauty of it	[16:14]
Diablo-D3	how does that have any beauty?	[16:15]
Diablo-D3	remember the riots in greece?	[16:15]
Diablo-D3	thats going to happen in every city in every country now	[16:15]
kakobrekla	what about them	[16:15]
kakobrekla	we have them for a while now too	[16:15]
kakobrekla	so fuckin what	[16:15]
Diablo-D3	they burned half of greece down, dude	[16:15]
kakobrekla	they nuked parliament here	[16:15]
Diablo-D3	wheres here?	[16:16]
kakobrekla	slovenia	[16:16]
Diablo-D3	thats a real country?	[16:16]
kakobrekla	no, NSK is real	[16:16]
Diablo-D3	at any rate, I havent seen any news about slovenia	[16:16]
Diablo-D3	but I dont doubt it	[16:16]
Diablo-D3	but wait until it starts happening in germany	[16:17]
Diablo-D3	and berlin gets burned to the ground	[16:17]
kakobrekla	you have no clue whats happenin here	[16:17]
Diablo-D3	then you will understand what I mean by "europe is fucked"	[16:17]
kakobrekla	germany is doing just fine	[16:17]
Diablo-D3	germany WILLL do just fine if they exit the EU now	[16:17]
Diablo-D3	and issue their own currency	[16:17]
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kakobrekla	diablo tokens.	[16:18]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[16:18]
gribble	There are currently 2559.549 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 140775.164133 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0011 seconds	[16:18]
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mjr_	germany switches to bitcoin	[16:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01959 BTC [+]	[16:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.019599 = 0.784 BTC [+]	[16:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.01966 = 0.1966 BTC [+]	[16:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 239 @ 0.01985 = 4.7442 BTC [+]	[16:19]
Diablo-D3	mjr_: unlikely	[16:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 40 @ 0.01988 = 0.7952 BTC [+]	[16:19]
mjr_	lol it was a joke	[16:19]
mjr_	did not think that was likely	[16:19]
chmod755	iceland should switch to bitcoin	[16:19]
chmod755	it's a small country with many internet users	[16:19]
mjr_	iceland dealt with their credit issues in a great way for their people	[16:19]
mjr_	more people should have followed their example	[16:20]
Diablo-D3	I agree	[16:20]
Diablo-D3	iceland won	[16:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.008 BTC [-]	[16:20]
Diablo-D3	they crashed the banks and press the reset button	[16:20]
mjr_	that is what should happen	[16:23]
mjr_	you lent money to a bad risk	[16:23]
mjr_	that is your fault not mine	[16:23]
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mjr_	it is basically predatory lending when you let someone borrow 10x their income and networth	[16:23]
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Chaang-Noi	wall is taking hits	[16:28]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[16:28]
gribble	There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 55.7350 seconds	[16:28]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 55	[16:29]
gribble	There are currently 1883.3806 bitcoins offered at or under 55.0 USD, worth 103577.890673 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 71.5866 seconds	[16:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]	[16:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00075897 = 11.2707 BTC [-]	[16:30]
Chaang-Noi	less than 1k now	[16:31]
kakobrekla	bfl miner first testing	[16:33]
kakobrekla	http://www.blogiseverything.com/files/pics/usb_powered_cooking_pan_small.jpg	[16:33]
Chaang-Noi	and 55 is gone	[16:35]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 56	[16:36]
gribble	There are currently 1954.0553 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 108167.701023 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 88.7404 seconds	[16:36]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 60	[16:36]
gribble	There are currently 14347.373 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 839553.401471 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 98.1760 seconds	[16:36]
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pgp	;;goxlag	[16:45]
gribble	5.38259 seconds	[16:45]
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ThickAsThieves	''ticker	[16:47]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[16:47]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 55.66000, Best ask: 55.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04000, Last trade: 55.66000, 24 hour volume: 102733.91362795, 24 hour low: 47.50002, 24 hour high: 56.00000, 24 hour vwap: 50.91918	[16:47]
pgp	and the hill is down again...	[16:47]
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ThickAsThieves	next stop, $50 or $60?	[16:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 1 @ 0.47606017 BTC [-]	[16:52]
Bugpowder	ThickAsThieves: $60	[16:54]
Bugpowder	won't take long	[16:54]
Bugpowder	cyprusssss	[16:54]
ThickAsThieves	but theres bound to be some selloffs	[16:56]
pgp	;;goxlag	[16:56]
gribble	0 seconds	[16:56]
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Chaang-Noi	56 did not last long at all	[16:58]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 57	[16:59]
gribble	There are currently 955.56252 bitcoins offered at or under 57.0 USD, worth 54006.2376327 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds	[16:59]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 60	[16:59]
gribble	There are currently 12557.116 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 741836.013873 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 12.1822 seconds	[16:59]
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Chaang-Noi	;;bids 56	[17:01]
gribble	There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 31.4974 seconds	[17:01]
Chaang-Noi	just as many bids over 56 as asks to 60, jesus h christ	[17:02]
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Chaang-Noi	;;bids 56	[17:02]
gribble	There are currently 12071.718 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 677336.979852 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 92.4568 seconds	[17:02]
kakobrekla	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png	[17:03]
mod6	damn	[17:03]
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BUGPOWDER	holy sheet	[17:04]
kakobrekla	hehe	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	look at that ask wall	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	;;asks 56	[17:04]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 56.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 8.0772 seconds	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	bid	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	;;bids 56	[17:04]
gribble	There are currently 369.55094 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 20755.939292 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 14.8987 seconds	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	ok	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	its gone	[17:04]
Chaang-Noi	they took the wall down	[17:04]
Chaang-Noi	but it waws there	[17:04]
BUGPOWDER	I guess he is just gonna buy it	[17:05]
BUGPOWDER	that wall would never work anyway	[17:05]
Chaang-Noi	56.9	[17:05]
BUGPOWDER	people would just buy over it	[17:05]
BUGPOWDER	unless there was a big dump	[17:05]
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BUGPOWDER	actually it might work	[17:05]
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BUGPOWDER	Yah, I think we hit $60 within the hour	[17:05]
jurov	;;bc,convert eur	[17:06]
gribble	1 BTC = 56.90000 U.S. dollars = 43.9925777 Euros	[17:06]
BUGPOWDER	"Theymos I am a 21-year-old computer science student from Wisconsin."	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	wat?	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	Is he just trolling people?	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	57.50	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	$60	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	!	[17:08]
kakobrekla	no and hashking is 13	[17:08]
mod6	lol	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	$60.29	[17:08]
Chaang-Noi	that wall was not sold into, he took it down	[17:08]
kakobrekla	what are we just spitting out random numbers now?	[17:08]
kakobrekla	30242.31	[17:08]
BUGPOWDER	no	[17:09]
BUGPOWDER	thats the price	[17:09]
BUGPOWDER	of bitcoin	[17:09]
BUGPOWDER	now	[17:09]
Chaang-Noi	bugpowder last i heard he was 20, so it checks out	[17:09]
BUGPOWDER	he market bought with the wall	[17:09]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[17:09]
gribble	21.857546 seconds	[17:09]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[17:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 56.75001, Best ask: 56.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12999, Last trade: 56.75001, 24 hour volume: 104957.41050327, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 57.00000, 24 hour vwap: 51.04947	[17:09]
kakobrekla	ah ok	[17:09]
BUGPOWDER	clark moody caught it	[17:09]
Chaang-Noi	kakobreka is hashking really 13? i thought that was just a joke	[17:09]
kakobrekla	sorry for jumping on ya.	[17:09]
mod6	last $60.09	[17:09]
kakobrekla	Chaang-Noi yeah we thought so too	[17:10]
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mjr_	lol	[17:10]
Chaang-Noi	oh lol, i should have known when he called me a scammer for not paying him dividends on my bonds cuz he had already sold them... lolol btcland	[17:10]
mjr_	tradehill has one order to sell at $3000	[17:10]
mjr_	;;goxlag	[17:11]
gribble	34.77577 seconds	[17:11]
mjr_	dayum	[17:11]
pgp	jesus!	[17:11]
Chaang-Noi	jesus fuck	[17:11]
Chaang-Noi	62	[17:11]
pgp	this is some crazy shit	[17:11]
kakobrekla	Chaang-Noi hows litecoin doin	[17:11]
Chaang-Noi	well atleast that wall at 60 is gone, a small one at 64	[17:11]
BUGPOWDER	Glad I bought those calls	[17:12]
Chaang-Noi	kakobreka .0095 so up esp considering btc is moving uup	[17:12]
kakobrekla	lol	[17:12]
BUGPOWDER	I think 62 is a bad print	[17:12]
kakobrekla	yeah	[17:12]
kakobrekla	nmc is also up concidering btc	[17:12]
kakobrekla	so great!	[17:12]
pgp	$1 spread	[17:12]
Chaang-Noi	;;ask 60	[17:12]
gribble	Error: "ask" is not a valid command.	[17:12]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 60	[17:12]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 60.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 79.4836 seconds	[17:12]
ThickAsThieves	;;asks 70	[17:13]
gribble	There are currently 15933.287 bitcoins offered at or under 70.0 USD, worth 1064561.16994 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 84.4513 seconds	[17:13]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 62	[17:13]
gribble	There are currently 48.927719 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 2985.0757865 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 95.8431 seconds	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	;;asks 65	[17:13]
gribble	There are currently 6238.7322 bitcoins offered at or under 65.0 USD, worth 397953.724648 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 100.6715 seconds	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[17:13]
gribble	68.980126 seconds	[17:13]
BUGPOWDER	hmm... maybe it did hit it, I never saw that trade happen though	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	dang	[17:13]
mod6	yeah it says it hit 62.0	[17:13]
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Chaang-Noi	well 54 coins are offered at or under 62	[17:15]
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Chaang-Noi	;;asks 62	[17:15]
gribble	There are currently 1060.2704 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 64880.7926418 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 108.6023 seconds	[17:15]
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Chaang-Noi	well now more...	[17:15]
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ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[17:16]
gribble	81.443292 seconds	[17:16]
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mjr_	wow $3 cheaper on bitfloor	[17:17]
Chaang-Noi	2013-03-19 11:02:23 to 2013-03-19 11:12:23: Avg price: 58.566 (56.200 to 62.000) Total volume: 8586.48399, Cumulative cost: 511324.00000 Buy volume: 7933.77667 (473468.31 USD), Sell volume: 652.70731 (37856.53 USD) Ratio: 12.15518 ( 12.51)	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	falling fast	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	58.5	[17:17]
Chaang-Noi	1/2 million fiat dump in 10 mins	[17:17]
mjr_	;;goxlag	[17:17]
gribble	114.508129 seconds	[17:17]
mjr_	almost two minutes now	[17:17]
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ThickAsThieves	i have a live coinlab connection	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	for now...	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	60.20	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	57	[17:19]
pgp	and now for some reality	[17:19]
Chaang-Noi	$4 spread	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	its jumping around	[17:19]
Chaang-Noi	buy at 62 sell at 56 lol	[17:20]
Chaang-Noi	$6 spread i mean	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	shit i think itll stabilize	[17:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21367 @ 0.0007343 = 15.6898 BTC [-]	[17:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4783 @ 0.00073344 = 3.508 BTC [-]	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[17:20]
gribble	111.972092 seconds	[17:20]
pgp	;;goxlag	[17:20]
gribble	107.616952 seconds	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	59.8	[17:20]
Chaang-Noi	so much for 47.5 is the new 5	[17:21]
pgp	;;goxlag	[17:21]
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pgp	;;goxlag	[17:22]
gribble	135.48409 seconds	[17:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.829 BTC [-]	[17:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.828 = 1.656 BTC [-]	[17:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]	[17:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.8221 = 8.221 BTC [-]	[17:22]
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pgp	;;goxlag	[17:23]
gribble	122.409422 seconds	[17:23]
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deadweasel	;;goxlag	[17:24]
gribble	29.120795 seconds	[17:24]
Chaang-Noi	57 to 62 to 57 lol	[17:27]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 62	[17:28]
gribble	There are currently 4093.7415 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 248124.847411 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 92.1101 seconds	[17:28]
Chaang-Noi	;;bids 57	[17:29]
gribble	There are currently 106.35268 bitcoins demanded at or over 57.0 USD, worth 6093.23499578 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 104.3026 seconds	[17:29]
Chaang-Noi	;;bids 56	[17:29]
gribble	There are currently 1398.1248 bitcoins demanded at or over 56.0 USD, worth 78641.1004811 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 109.2912 seconds	[17:29]
Chaang-Noi	;;bids 55	[17:29]
gribble	There are currently 3118.6452 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 173403.849411 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 114.0207 seconds	[17:29]
mjr_	;;ticker	[17:34]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 57.56000, Best ask: 57.61000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 57.61000, 24 hour volume: 122812.31066450, 24 hour low: 47.51000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.26281	[17:34]
mjr_	;;calc (52.26281-41)/52.26281	[17:35]
gribble	0.215503337842	[17:35]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 21 @ 0.2 = 4.2 BTC [-]	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-]	[17:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.16002 BTC [-]	[17:39]
kakobrekla	;;goxlag	[17:39]
gribble	0 seconds	[17:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]	[17:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 10 @ 0.2309 = 2.309 BTC [+]	[17:40]
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benkay	fifty seven!	[17:41]
benkay	i wake up to this nonsense.	[17:42]
benkay	every day.	[17:42]
Chaang-Noi	total bid: 7,756,029 USD \| total ask: 52,027 BTC \| ratio: 149.08 USD/BTC	[17:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 50 @ 0.004231 = 0.2116 BTC [-]	[17:42]
benkay	and goodness i see we were trading all the way up to 62	[17:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [-]	[17:43]
Chaang-Noi	benkay yeah, massive walls down in one go, this is a correction to that, we will be up to 65 shortly, make sure your seatbelts are on	[17:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 8 @ 0.2 = 1.6 BTC [+]	[17:46]
benkay	;;asks 40	[17:51]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 40.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 77.0844 seconds	[17:51]
benkay	heh.	[17:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [-]	[17:54]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 59	[17:55]
gribble	There are currently 14.925743 bitcoins offered at or under 59.0 USD, worth 880.61884113 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds	[17:55]
Chaang-Noi	;;asks 62	[17:56]
gribble	There are currently 4151.5081 bitcoins offered at or under 62.0 USD, worth 251811.333797 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 6.3287 seconds	[17:56]
Chaang-Noi	;;bids 55	[17:56]
gribble	There are currently 4312.4797 bitcoins demanded at or over 55.0 USD, worth 240297.179135 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 13.6690 seconds	[17:56]
Chaang-Noi	nice	[17:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8647 BTC [+]	[17:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.295 BTC [-]	[18:00]
benkay	is there a market cap command?	[18:01]
Chaang-Noi	no but its like 10900000 time 58	[18:02]
Chaang-Noi	so around 600 million	[18:02]
benkay	i'm more interested in plotting asicminer mktcap over time	[18:03]
benkay	;;asks 100	[18:03]
gribble	There are currently 38868.333 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2888163.25634 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds	[18:03]
benkay	asks 200	[18:03]
benkay	;;asks 200	[18:03]
gribble	There are currently 42540.219 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 3435013.85974 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 20.0105 seconds	[18:03]
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unbalanced	benkay: market cap is visible at http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/	[18:06]
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benkay	thanks unbalanced, i'm more interested in mktcap on a per-asset basis	[18:06]
benkay	has anyone done any work on the performance of bitcoin assets relative to bit coin?	[18:07]
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deadweasel	holding BTC is better unless you are extremely plugged into the assets you are buying selling. for the average bitcoiner, anyhow.	[18:11]
jcpham	hooooooooooooooooooooolf	[18:12]
jcpham	for a long long time	[18:12]
jcpham	for a long long time	[18:12]
deadweasel	assets, you mean?	[18:12]
deadweasel	i'm holding some for a long long time. just as an experimento	[18:12]
benkay	deadweasel i have a hunch you're right	[18:13]
benkay	but	[18:13]
benkay	"in god we trust. all others must bring data."	[18:13]
deadweasel	true, I have run no numbers on that. It's my gut feeling.	[18:14]
deadweasel	i'm fairly sure I could make the data say what I want it to say, if I really tried, so I just go with my gut	[18:14]
deadweasel	data doesn't lie, but people do. :)	[18:14]
benkay	i like charting things	[18:16]
benkay	more accurately, charting stuff is a thing that i like to do	[18:16]
deadweasel	how is that more accurate?	[18:17]
benkay	fun_things.append(charting)	[18:17]
benkay	don't hold me to that	[18:17]
deadweasel	lol.stuff()	[18:17]
benkay	i'm sitting on a train and the coffee place is closed	[18:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.105 = 0.315 BTC [-]	[18:17]
deadweasel	well, grab price history and build a scenario tool and see if you can get historical data on assets and get busy!	[18:18]
deadweasel	i'm curious	[18:18]
benkay	too busy building real thing	[18:18]
benkay	only making charts that i need to make	[18:18]
deadweasel	reminds me, I need to do some work. thx!	[18:19]
benkay	price history for asicminer does not return on time invested have at the moment	[18:19]
benkay	don't do it	[18:21]
kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[18:22]
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gribble	Current Blocks: 226774 \| Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 \| Next Difficulty In: 1033 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 18 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 6214082.21368 \| Estimated Percent Change: 28.18759	[18:22]
kakobrekla	there ya go Enky	[18:22]
benkay	?	[18:23]
TomServo	28%?! Yikes.	[18:25]
pgp	7.38 minutes avg between blocks...	[18:25]
pgp	lots of hardware came online in the last 9 days...	[18:26]
deadweasel	gotta get it back to 10	[18:26]
deadweasel	;;goxlag	[18:26]
gribble	21.865695 seconds	[18:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00073866 = 4.2842 BTC [+]	[18:26]
deadweasel	;;ticker --last	[18:27]
gribble	56.89000	[18:27]
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pgp	55 gone	[18:30]
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mjr_	that was a fun ride	[18:33]
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pigeons	anyone heard from topace?	[18:35]
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topace__	hi	[18:35]
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deadweasel	howdy	[18:36]
topace__	weird routing issue	[18:36]
topace__	cant figure it out	[18:36]
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topace__	soemone traceroute 198.41.28.231 for me ?	[18:36]
jcpham	i lose the route at hop 32... looks like jupiter or uranus	[18:37]
topace__	6 border1-faste2-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.38) 46.098 ms 24.215 ms 24.056 ms	[18:37]
topace__	7 border5-faste0-0.magma.ca (209.217.64.42) 25.576 ms 27.031 ms 28.733 ms	[18:37]
topace__	8 198.32.235.40 (198.32.235.40) 30.663 ms 32.602 ms 33.566 ms	[18:37]
topace__	9 173-195-50.214.tel-ott.com (173.195.50.214) 42.963 ms 45.431 ms 46.764 ms	[18:37]
topace__	10 198.41.28.231 (198.41.28.231) 48.645 ms 50.038 ms 51.511 ms	[18:37]
topace__	should come in like that	[18:37]
topace__	which it does for me from my office	[18:37]
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topace__	but from othe rlocations, its crapping out somewhere as well	[18:38]
deadweasel	hop 13, after 38.122.68.178	[18:38]
deadweasel	for me	[18:38]
topace__	yea thast the IP it stops on for me from one of my other servers	[18:39]
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topace__	how do you tell customers "the server is fine, its just the routing thats fucked up"	[18:39]
topace__	when most customers say "whats a server? whats a route?"	[18:39]
TomServo	topace__: You tell them to contact their ISP and provide them the last hop.	[18:40]
kakobrekla	you say server is us, route is you	[18:40]
kakobrekla	we = ok, you = fucked.	[18:40]
deadweasel	if my experience with bitcoin business is of any value, you should ignore the customer until the issue is fixed	[18:40]
pigeons	i hear it all the time one way or another as "it works on my box" usually from the developer	[18:40]
deadweasel	then possibly continue ignoring after said fixing	[18:40]
deadweasel	"it works in my local environment"	[18:41]
deadweasel	fuck your local environment	[18:41]
topace__	oh mmm 38.122.68.178 is my data center...	[18:41]
deadweasel	lol topace__	[18:41]
TomServo	haha	[18:41]
topace__	wonder why traceroute doesnt go through that when i traceroute from my office	[18:41]
topace__	must be coming in on a different network	[18:41]
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ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[18:42]
gribble	69.287552 seconds	[18:42]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[18:42]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 55.01000, Best ask: 55.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.43999, Last trade: 55.00000, 24 hour volume: 131954.29179881, 24 hour low: 47.52100, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.64803	[18:42]
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BUGPOWDER	here comes the bounce...	[18:43]
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topace__	this might be 100% unrelated to the new switch i just installed yesterday, or it might be 100% because of the new switch	[18:44]
topace__	lol	[18:44]
pigeons	:)	[18:44]
topace__	but if the switch went in yesterday, why only fail this morning	[18:44]
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deadweasel	is it a managed switch? did you configure it?	[18:45]
pigeons	needed to warm up	[18:45]
topace__	ye amanged switch	[18:45]
topace__	catalyst 2960	[18:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 0.8645 = 13.832 BTC [-]	[18:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22127 @ 0.00073344 = 16.2288 BTC [-]	[18:45]
topace__	okay now traceroute to 198.41.28.228	[18:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8644 = 1.7288 BTC [-]	[18:46]
topace__	(or .231)	[18:46]
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deadweasel	hops right through the server	[18:47]
topace__	fucking data center	[18:47]
pigeons	site is working	[18:48]
topace__	excellent	[18:48]
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deadweasel	;;ticker	[18:49]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 56.64000, Best ask: 56.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 56.98000, 24 hour volume: 134791.46988100, 24 hour low: 47.54000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.73807	[18:49]
deadweasel	;;goxlag	[18:49]
topace__	!ticker h sdice	[18:49]
gribble	63.835124 seconds	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.53010000 / 0.53168333 / 0.53200000 (6 shares, 3.19010000 BTC), 7D: 0.50030000 / 0.52350856 / 0.59999900 (1197 shares, 626.63975002 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.59492594 / 0.75100000 (5740 shares, 3414.87486892 BTC)	[18:49]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00073744 = 6.8951 BTC [+]	[19:08]
kakobrekla	!l m s.dice	[19:10]
assbot	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0051 BTC [+]	[19:10]
kakobrekla	!l m s.bbet	[19:10]
assbot	Last trade for S.BBET on MPEX was at 0.0018 BTC [+]	[19:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9537 @ 0.00073344 = 6.9948 BTC [-]	[19:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4663 @ 0.00073285 = 3.4173 BTC [-]	[19:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.515 = 1.03 BTC [-]	[19:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.00901 BTC [-]	[19:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 5 @ 0.009 = 0.045 BTC [-]	[19:25]
smickles	"< mircea_popescu> miscounted them digits" << I made it easier to read $depth now	[19:30]
kakobrekla	ascii chart?	[19:30]
jurov	$depth s.mpoe	[19:31]
mpexbot	jurov: Bids: ['2462 @ 0.00073285', '41300 @ 0.00071998', '1590 @ 0.00071886', '32459 @ 0.00068249', '25000 @ 0.000675']	[19:31]
mpexbot	jurov: Asks: ['5074 @ 0.00073744', '5400 @ 0.00074837', '3950 @ 0.00075897', '13911 @ 0.00076091', '29878 @ 0.00076717']	[19:31]
jurov	$markov is it fixed	[19:31]
mpexbot	jurov: (markov [] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.	[19:31]
jurov	$markov "is it fixed"	[19:32]
mpexbot	jurov: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[19:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2462 @ 0.00073285 = 1.8043 BTC [-]	[19:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00071998 = 29.7352 BTC [-]	[19:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P550N] 6 @ 0.34032895 = 2.042 BTC	[19:32]
kakobrekla	$markov rofl	[19:32]
mpexbot	kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[19:32]
kakobrekla	$markov you fail	[19:32]
mpexbot	kakobrekla: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain. Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.	[19:32]
kakobrekla	or what	[19:33]
jurov	btw, it should consider first parameter a chan only if it begins with #	[19:33]
kakobrekla	its kinda rand(){return 4;} here	[19:33]
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kakobrekla	;;ticker	[19:36]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 55.90000, Best ask: 56.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.60000, Last trade: 56.00000, 24 hour volume: 142528.78744713, 24 hour low: 47.55000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.90602	[19:36]
kakobrekla	!exchanges bungeegum	[19:38]
jurov	!ticker m s.ponzi	[19:39]
assbot	Your actions are useless.	[19:39]
kakobrekla	!ticker glbse ppt.a	[19:39]
assbot	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.	[19:39]
kakobrekla	!ticker GLBSE ppt.e	[19:39]
assbot	I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word.	[19:39]
kakobrekla	eh	[19:39]
kakobrekla	!last GLBSE ppt.e	[19:39]
assbot	Last trade for PPT.E on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [-]	[19:39]
kakobrekla	!last GLBSE ppt.a	[19:39]
assbot	Last trade for PPT.A on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]	[19:39]
kakobrekla	hm	[19:39]
kakobrekla	!last GLBSE ppt.b	[19:39]
assbot	Last trade for PPT.B on GLBSE was at 0.32 BTC [+]	[19:39]
kakobrekla	kinda strange	[19:39]
jurov	maybe it fails when no recent data	[19:44]
jurov	anyway, better error messages would be helpful	[19:44]
kakobrekla	no its not a fail	[19:45]
kakobrekla	!last GLBSE fake	[19:45]
assbot	How can I be of assistance, my poor man?	[19:45]
jurov	!fail	[19:45]
kakobrekla	see	[19:45]
assbot	i dont fail	[19:45]
kakobrekla	see	[19:45]
*	bungeegum 's head is about to explode :p	[19:45]
jurov	so when i name the exchange right, assbot is polite?	[19:45]
kakobrekla	lol	[19:46]
kakobrekla	assbot is polite all the time	[19:46]
pigeons	!last GLBSE SATOSHISDAEMON.horse	[19:46]
assbot	Have you got any tobacco?	[19:46]
jborkl	smickles, you around	[19:46]
kakobrekla	i might not have that.	[19:46]
kakobrekla	cause too old	[19:46]
kakobrekla	not sure	[19:46]
jurov	!ticker btct bitvps	[19:47]
assbot	[BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: -- / -- / -- (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0038 / 0.00473 / 0.00688 (350 shares, 1.7 BTC), 30D: 0.00341 / 0.00438 / 0.00689 (1105 shares, 4.8 BTC)	[19:47]
kakobrekla	meat: http://coinbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ee74sd-300x224.jpg	[19:47]
jurov	dunno where it ended	[19:47]
kakobrekla	on a 10k pizza as horse salami	[19:48]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00672 BTC [-]	[19:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 3 @ 0.00671 = 0.0201 BTC [-]	[19:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 37 @ 0.006 = 0.222 BTC [-]	[19:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 100 @ 0.0059 = 0.59 BTC [-]	[19:49]
jurov	oh, list of biggest btc luminaries: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.msg1642658#msg1642658	[19:49]
bungeegum	i'll be back later. thank you kakobrekla for the info :)	[19:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 201 @ 0.00585 = 1.1759 BTC [-]	[19:49]
kakobrekla	yw bungeegum	[19:49]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[19:49]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004	[19:49]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[19:49]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 57.67786, Best ask: 57.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21214, Last trade: 57.67785, 24 hour volume: 143463.25501478, 24 hour low: 47.60000, 24 hour high: 62.00000, 24 hour vwap: 52.94004	[19:49]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[19:49]
gribble	0.542955 seconds	[19:49]
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kakobrekla	250 paraipan	[19:50]
kakobrekla	250 Garr255	[19:50]
kakobrekla	500 OgNasty	[19:50]
kakobrekla	ROFL	[19:50]
kakobrekla	someone should just send him to s.dice	[19:50]
jurov	kakobrekla, how do you feel about a bet "At least one of bitcointalk treasurers will get scammer tag by...dunno when "	[19:51]
jurov	1st July?	[19:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1590 @ 0.00071886 = 1.143 BTC [-]	[19:51]
kakobrekla	i feel good about it but i dont approve that stuff	[19:51]
kakobrekla	nah more	[19:52]
kakobrekla	by end 2013	[19:52]
jurov	okay	[19:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.985 = 3.97 BTC [-]	[19:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2 = 12 BTC [+]	[19:53]
*	Anduck (~Anduck@212-226-58-49-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:53]
*	Anduck has quit (Changing host)	[19:53]
*	Anduck (~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[19:53]
ThickAsThieves	;;bc,stats	[20:01]
gribble	Current Blocks: 226787 \| Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 \| Next Difficulty In: 1020 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 5 hours, 32 minutes, and 18 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 6217631.41098 \| Estimated Percent Change: 28.26081	[20:01]
*	Doffx has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[20:03]
*	[\] (~imsaguy@unaffiliated/imsaguy) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[20:03]

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