Forum logs for 18 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

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Namworld	python doesn't work on my windows 7	[00:00]
Namworld	I tried idk how many times to get it to work without success.	[00:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @#64; 0.0051 = 1.02 BTC [+]	[00:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @#64; 0.0051 = 0.255 BTC [+]	[00:00]
kakobrekla	O_o	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	now that sucks.	[00:01]
jurov	smickles, just make a small linux vm :D	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	smickles , make the line!	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	line is not a linux emulator	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	Line Is Not a linux Emu Lattor!	[00:02]
smickles	well, basically, there is a good product now, so I'm putting it out there. As time goes on, I'll develop it further, including per platform packaging	[00:02]
mircea_popescu	a ok	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	that's quite different :p	[00:03]
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smickles	mircea_popescu: so the link (since you missed it the first time) is https://smickles.com/mpex-gui/	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	can i have smickles mpex gui but with pork ?	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	haha what, you have your own irc namechan ?	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	* Now talking on #smickles	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	haha hai!	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	ok this has buttential	[00:05]
smickles	mircea_popescu: there will be pork in the minecraft version	[00:05]
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mircea_popescu	hahaha	[00:05]
mircea_popescu	cool beans smickles. lemme twitter	[00:05]
jurov	how many licenses sold so far?	[00:05]
smickles	;;tslb	[00:06]
gribble	Time since last block: 1 minute and 22 seconds	[00:06]
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smickles	jurov: in the 10 min since launch? no confirmed sales yet	[00:06]
smickles	i deliver on 1 confirmation	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	42	[00:07]
bgupta	So was looking at trading in AM, and it seems their marketcap is ~16-17 million USD? (Using 400,000 shares)	[00:07]
mircea_popescu	bgupta at the current prices about there.	[00:07]
bgupta	seems a bit high considering the uncertainty.. however, it could work out for shareholders if AM can keep their advantage for a little longer than expected. (BFL shipping in volume is the big question mark I guess.)	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	bgupta https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.0	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	topic pretty much covered there i think	[00:10]
bgupta	thx	[00:11]
jurov	oh this remind me i wanted to short am via bf options	[00:11]
mircea_popescu	jurov o.0	[00:12]
jurov	yea, bitfunder has options nao	[00:12]
jurov	pity that ukto is "outta here"	[00:13]
bgupta	jurov. I don't think you can sell naked calls, can you?	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	well he can buy puts in any event	[00:13]
jurov	i have to wrap my head around them first. maybe i'll buy puts instead	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	jurov if there's no market making on the options tho...	[00:14]
jurov	there are already some offers, but not much	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	you know, it's very funny. all these idiots were like "o, s.mpoe price is not real!!!111" and yet you can borrow 100mn shares right now if you have the credit	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	on the other hand i'd like to borrow 100k asicminer shares and there's no way to do it, all the total volume for the month is like 1k btc which is what bitbet does ffs	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	yet "great investment".	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	bitcoin is basically full of idiots still.	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	no idea about anything whatsoever, from devteam to the newest forum member, virtually all clueless as rocks.	[00:17]
bgupta	you'd like to borrow 50% of the outstanding (tradable shares)?? Good luck with that.	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	bgupta irl i can do that on plenty shitty 20mn venture by monday morning.	[00:17]
mircea_popescu	sure, i can't borrow 1/4 of google float, but that is BECAUSE I DONT HAVE THE CREDIT	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	if i did i could.	[00:18]
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mircea_popescu	(and for the record, unlike mpex where the book is actually kept, you have no idea if asicminer sold 400k or 600k or 1.2mn shares in total)	[00:20]
bgupta	I'm guessing one would want to be a bit careful shorting something like AM since you'd be on the hook for paying the btc dividends for the shares you shorted.	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	that's always the case neh ?	[00:22]
Anduck	whats the best way to get btc value	[00:24]
Anduck	?	[00:24]
Anduck	vwap, 24h avg?	[00:24]
smickles	obligitory: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=78.0	[00:24]
smickles	;;bc,24hprc	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	Anduck that's what i use	[00:24]
gribble	46.85	[00:24]
Anduck	which one ?	[00:24]
smickles	Anduck: that is the vwap of all exchanges on bitcoincharts	[00:25]
smickles	what's the application?	[00:25]
Anduck	well usd->btc basicly	[00:25]
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Anduck	and i would like the most accurate price	[00:25]
smickles	Anduck: maybe spot	[00:25]
smickles	*spot on gox	[00:25]
Anduck	hmm	[00:25]
smickles	or best bid on gox	[00:25]
Anduck	best bid could work	[00:25]
Anduck	but i think some avg price is better	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	if you're looking for "least likely to be unfair to either party on the long term" price, then i'd go with the 24hour all-exchange vwap	[00:26]
Anduck	which is better, vwap or 24h avg?	[00:26]
smickles	if you think mpex is a good model, it uses bc,24hprc	[00:26]
Anduck	aight	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	if you're looking for somethingelse then it'd depend on what you;re looking for	[00:27]
Anduck	i'll go with that 24hour vwap, for start mtgox only	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	you know it's trivial to pull tctm's json	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	http://bitcoincharts.com/t/weighted_prices.json	[00:28]
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Anduck	hmm	[00:28]
Anduck	ok. thanks	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	so what happened to mtgox volume	[00:29]
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mircea_popescu	past 3 days together comes to like... 20% of chainfork day	[00:30]
smickles	jez, the next volumeous competitior is >10% in size	[00:31]
smickles	(on bitcoincharts anyway)	[00:31]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @#64; 0.1977 BTC [-]	[00:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 10 @#64; 0.1978 = 1.978 BTC [+]	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	hey, how much did bitfloor lose ? was it 20k ?	[00:46]
smickles	13?	[00:46]
smickles	there's peeps who have a script that compares losses to fees earned since then, iirc	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	24 no ?	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	iirc	[00:47]
smickles	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105819.0	[00:48]
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jurov	Kernel panic - not syncing: grsec: halting the system due to suspicious kernel crash caused by root	[00:48]
smickles	so 30k?	[00:48]
jurov	so it came to my own machines being paranoid	[00:49]
jurov	against me	[00:49]
smickles	lol	[00:49]
mircea_popescu	kik	[00:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @#64; 0.34999 = 0.7 BTC [+]	[00:58]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 37 @#64; 0.105 = 3.885 BTC [+]	[01:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 58 @#64; 0.105 = 6.09 BTC [+]	[01:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @#64; 0.000709 = 0.0014 BTC [+]	[01:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @#64; 0.00071 = 0.0028 BTC [+]	[01:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 130 @#64; 0.00071 = 0.0923 BTC [+]	[01:08]
mircea_popescu	deposits flushed.	[01:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.88875 BTC [+]	[01:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @#64; 0.889 = 6.223 BTC [+]	[01:11]
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smickles	;;ticker	[01:14]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.27501, Best ask: 47.35000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07499, Last trade: 47.35000, 24 hour volume: 13728.98363142, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.74000, 24 hour vwap: 47.39847	[01:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @#64; 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+]	[01:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 87 @#64; 0.00499 = 0.4341 BTC [+]	[01:17]
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mircea_popescu	;;eauth mircea_popescu	[01:22]
gribble	Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@#64;pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452	[01:22]
mircea_popescu	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c2e04fad23533e2662e326e340ebc54476309fe6d0d7781aceab3d44	[01:23]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452	[01:23]
mircea_popescu	;;buy 1 "$100 Trader Joe's Gift Certificate" at 2.2 BTC	[01:24]
gribble	Order id 14061 created.	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	;;order 14061	[01:24]
gribble	Error: "order" is not a valid command.	[01:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.889 BTC [+]	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	;;view 14061	[01:26]
gribble	#14061 Sun Mar 17 16:24:47 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 $100 Trader Joe's Gift Certificate @#64; 2.2 BTC (None)	[01:26]
mircea_popescu	somebody be a darling and paste that in -otc too.	[01:27]
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Anduck	why dont u do it urself..?	[01:33]
mircea_popescu	cause i'm in yurp ?	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	a, on otc ? i don't go in that scumpit sorry.	[01:34]
mircea_popescu	in other news, piuk is moving blockchain towards a proxy model. GOOD.	[01:35]
pizzaman1337	does he mention that on the forums somewhere? have a link?	[01:38]
pizzaman1337	I see it	[01:40]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @#64; 0.2 BTC [+]	[01:46]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/adMinya.png	[01:48]
mircea_popescu	does anyone like the coffee cup mpex ?	[01:48]
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kakobrekla	not too shabby	[01:49]
pizzaman1337	why blue and black for buttons? it doesn't really fit	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	ya i was thinking that.	[01:50]
kakobrekla	hehe	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	cunt pink'd be better.	[01:50]
kakobrekla	:))	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	make people really wanna click it you know ?	[01:50]
mircea_popescu	salmon.	[01:50]
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Bugpowder	Blue and Black buttons are terrible.	[01:51]
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Bugpowder	Main logo looks pixelated	[01:52]
GoWest	ooh I didn't know this channel existed. Awesome.	[01:52]
Bugpowder	whereas the current "Welcome to MPEx" looks clean	[01:52]
Anduck	sorry but it looks like it's from the 90s	[01:52]
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Bugpowder	GoWest: You have been running your blog and twitter for how long and didn't know this channel existed?	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	GoWest hello.	[01:53]
Bugpowder	This is were all the real shit in BTC finance goes down	[01:53]
Bugpowder	Welcome!	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder you apparently also missed the memo on the gift horse mouthlooking.	[01:53]
mircea_popescu	must read moar btctalk.	[01:53]
Bugpowder	I don't need to read moar btctalk, must read less	[01:54]
Bugpowder	much less	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	much much less.	[01:54]
mircea_popescu	how's life been treatin' ya ?	[01:54]
Bugpowder	Anyway, besides those two issues with the coffee formatting, it looks good	[01:54]
Bugpowder	Pretty good	[01:55]
Bugpowder	Had interview	[01:55]
Bugpowder	down to 3 candidates	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	can has interview ? can!	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[01:55]
Bugpowder	hopefully going back in 2 weeks	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	i hate these endless interview processes.	[01:55]
Bugpowder	have a different one lined up for next week	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	i've always made on the spot decisions	[01:55]
Bugpowder	It's fairly intense	[01:55]
Bugpowder	In sell mode for 2 days, including dinner	[01:56]
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Bugpowder	err, pitch mode	[01:56]
benkay	meh, jurov, i just wanted to look at it	[01:56]
GoWest	Hey guys, buy some ZigGap. =)	[01:56]
Bugpowder	GoWest: are you involved with that?	[01:56]
GoWest	Just a shareholder.	[01:56]
Bugpowder	ah	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	i always say, dude, shareholders are the best advertising you'll ever get.	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	some people get it. most don't ;/	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	ima quote GoWest from now on as a case study :D	[01:57]
GoWest	It really seems to have stagnated, though I think the company has potential. They keep running out of Bitcoins, so obviously business is brisk.	[01:57]
Bugpowder	everyone that is selling, is running out	[01:57]
mircea_popescu	GoWest you know, if the donut shop always runs out of donuts i don't conclude trade is brisk	[01:57]
GoWest	Fair enough!	[01:58]
Bugpowder	local poker cash game min buyin is $100 or 2BTC.	[01:58]
GoWest	You're right, I don't know their volume numbers.	[01:58]
Bugpowder	heh	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder i passed going to a shoot to be here with you all, so...	[01:58]
mircea_popescu	we all gotta make choices in this life!	[01:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 350 @#64; 0.004501 = 1.5754 BTC [-]	[02:00]
GoWest	assbot doesn't support BitFunder?	[02:01]
benkay	what shoot, mp?	[02:02]
benkay	and lord, on second thought, why?	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	benkay i think it was ggb	[02:02]
benkay	?	[02:02]
mircea_popescu	a girl, another girl and a boy.	[02:02]
benkay	ah	[02:03]
benkay	i had my first 4-way last wee	[02:03]
benkay	week	[02:03]
mircea_popescu	didja have a designated photographer ? :D	[02:04]
benkay	but i am stupid curious about your life, mp	[02:04]
benkay	no	[02:04]
benkay	there was a fifth wheel who limped off to bed though	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	you know, like most bar hopping has a designated driver	[02:04]
Bugpowder	bbbb?	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	evil bugbowder	[02:04]
kakobrekla	bitbetbitbet?	[02:04]
mircea_popescu	better bunghole business bureau	[02:05]
benkay	+1	[02:07]
mircea_popescu	which reminds me of maitre rabelais	[02:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @#64; 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+]	[02:11]
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benkay	mircae_popsescu, what's your background?	[02:15]
kakobrekla	white wall	[02:15]
benkay	"Set in a wasteland enclosed by a large white wall, the last survivor from a brutal child internment camp reluctantly takes on one final bounty hunting job to protect the idyllic life he has rebuilt."	[02:16]
bgupta	Jeez, anyone heard the news from Cyprus?	[02:16]
kakobrekla	yea	[02:17]
kakobrekla	old news by now	[02:17]
benkay	by innernet standards.	[02:17]
benkay	cubeworld won't figure it out until monday.	[02:17]
kakobrekla	internet is 10x real time	[02:17]
kakobrekla	and bitcoin is 10x internet	[02:17]
dub	that shit is sooo last minute	[02:17]
benkay	i wonder	[02:18]
benkay	if incompetence	[02:18]
bgupta	wasn't sure, as it wasn't mentioned in channel.	[02:18]
benkay	or indecipherable ulterior motives	[02:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @#64; 0.00074371 = 15.3204 BTC [+]	[02:19]
benkay	many things go unspoken here	[02:19]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @#64; 0.00074387 = 4.1627 BTC [+]	[02:19]
dub	bgupta: theres been a few references to getting cyprus'd or 'doing a cyprus'	[02:19]
Bugpowder	You mean the news that they are going with a 13.5/3.5% split now?	[02:19]
bgupta	Seems that the majority of Cyriot bank deposits are held by wealthy russians who use Cyprus as a convenient place to park money in the eurozone.	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	benkay : http://pastebin.com/4qxC6i8W	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	bgupta it's pretty bad. holiday today tho/	[02:20]
Bugpowder	no bailouts for oligarchs	[02:20]
Bugpowder	indefinite bank holiday	[02:20]
Bugpowder	they don't have the votes	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder the thing is, the germans fucked up their eastern europe support by allying with the russians	[02:20]
Bugpowder	26+2 = 28, they need 29	[02:20]
mircea_popescu	(such as, the no visa thing, the romania schengen thingetc)	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	and now just fucked their future with russia on this move.	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	i've not seen more inept foreign policy since the bush days.	[02:21]
Bugpowder	Ah, I am not up to date on Romania EU unity politics	[02:21]
Bugpowder	I thought that was the netherlands or something	[02:21]
benkay	popcorn	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	well you can imagine how pissy the ukrainians were when the eu decided russians don't need visas	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	when russia doesn't even return the favour	[02:21]
Bugpowder	wha?	[02:21]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[02:21]
Bugpowder	Come prop up our real estate market?	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	haha nah, ima prop the serbian market if anything.	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	gotta love that country, told the us + the eu to fuck off and has the bombshells to prove it.	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	plus, you should see the sort of cunt walking on two feet over hilly belgrade.	[02:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8604 @#64; 0.00074387 = 6.4003 BTC [+]	[02:23]
mircea_popescu	quite belle grade.	[02:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @#64; 0.0007441 = 8.1851 BTC [+]	[02:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7296 @#64; 0.00075195 = 5.4862 BTC [+]	[02:23]
Bugpowder	How many days will this holiday go on... Time to buy Treasuries again	[02:24]
Bugpowder	Also, probably bitcoins	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder when the queen invented a holiday at the request of nixon	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	it went on for two weeks	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	a month seems possible in this case.	[02:24]
mircea_popescu	in any way cyprus banks are like utah glaciers.	[02:25]
Bugpowder	If they really want to fuck russian oligarchs, just let the Cyprus banks blow	[02:25]
mircea_popescu	russia will invade.	[02:25]
Bugpowder	bailout UK and EU people who have funds there	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	im telling you. if you imagine "russian oligarchs" are sepparate from the russian govt... you're nuts.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	this is first line infiltration on their part, just like the chinese do in africa.	[02:26]
mircea_popescu	they will totally land on the island.	[02:26]
Bugpowder	zerohedge is having a field day with this shit.	[02:27]
Bugpowder	http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-17/russia-sending-permanent-warship-fleet-mediterranean-russian-naval-base-cyprus-comin	[02:27]
mircea_popescu	duh	[02:27]
benkay	i'm missing something	[02:33]
benkay	check this one	[02:33]
benkay	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg5zig5-minztgSza1gSMAzm1g60za2gSMAzm2g180zxzi1gVolzi2gAccDist	[02:33]
benkay	big red volume bar implies sale, correct?	[02:33]
benkay	how does big sale lead to large price movement up?	[02:33]
Bugpowder	Say you have a wall of 5,000 ask at 47.50	[02:35]
Bugpowder	they finally get antsy, and pull the wall and sell all 5,000 as a market order	[02:35]
Bugpowder	price dips to 47.3	[02:35]
Bugpowder	but the wall is gone	[02:35]
Bugpowder	all the bids and asks between 47.3 and 47.5 are wiped out	[02:36]
Bugpowder	so if the next person that makes a trade wants to buy, the price goes up quickly above 47.5	[02:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @#64; 0.888725 = 1.7775 BTC [-]	[02:36]
benkay	gotcha.	[02:36]
benkay	thank you, bug powder.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	red bar just means price closed lower than opened really.	[02:36]
mircea_popescu	so did anyone receive their primeasic ?	[02:37]
benkay	on candlestick, right? true also for volume bar?	[02:37]
mircea_popescu	benkay should be yes.	[02:37]
benkay	that would only happen on a sale, though, correct?	[02:37]
benkay	as in filling buy orders	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	volume bar = candlestick bar for color	[02:38]
mircea_popescu	not really any relation, no.	[02:38]
Bugpowder	if there is a lot of liquidity and high volumes of trading, its more likely to happen on a sale	[02:38]
Bugpowder	BUT	[02:38]
Bugpowder	the bid and ask could also drift lower since the previous sale, in tandem, and then the next trade would be red regardless	[02:39]
Bugpowder	of if its a bid or ask getting hit	[02:39]
benkay	thanks. makes sense.	[02:40]
benkay	different question, do any traders on MPEx get priority in clearing orders?	[02:40]
Bugpowder	That is more common on MPEX than on MTGOX due to the greater number of trades	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	benkay no.	[02:40]
Bugpowder	benkay, those that use pympex	[02:40]
Bugpowder	have an easier time than those that cut and paste into the webpage	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	orders are processed as received	[02:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 32 @#64; 0.105 = 3.36 BTC [+]	[02:41]
benkay	thanks. i've been reading macmillan and came across that artifact of bygone years.	[02:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @#64; 0.105 = 5.25 BTC [+]	[02:42]
Bugpowder	lol	[02:42]
Bugpowder	bygone years?	[02:42]
benkay	well	[02:42]
Bugpowder	Goldman gets priorty	[02:42]
benkay	you know what i mean.	[02:42]
Bugpowder	frontrunning is rampant	[02:43]
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Bugpowder	in the us market, be it as a whisper to the trading desk, or as a router thats has lower latency to the trading engine	[02:43]
Bugpowder	Most of HFT is trying to frontrun	[02:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 30 @#64; 0.105 = 3.15 BTC [+]	[02:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 20 @#64; 0.10999 = 2.1998 BTC [+]	[02:44]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/284/primeasic-has-a-miner/	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	apparently that guy was wrong.	[02:45]
dub	wait that shit is real?	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	what ?	[02:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 2 @#64; 0.2656 = 0.5312 BTC [-]	[02:46]
dub	primeasic	[02:46]
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mircea_popescu	well seeing how the bet resolved as no...	[02:46]
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kakobrekla	goes from about 16% gain to 3% at the end	[02:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @#64; 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [-]	[02:47]
kakobrekla	right?	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	ya	[02:48]
kakobrekla	one can always argue that is not "fair enough"	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	yes	[02:48]
kakobrekla	but hey what can you do.	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	but as long as it's argued from both sides you know it's exactly fair	[02:48]
kakobrekla	:D	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/38/network-difficulty-under-12-million/	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	this is getting some volume too	[02:49]
mircea_popescu	basically, bitbet march is like jan + feb x5 or some shit	[02:49]
kakobrekla	yeah	[02:51]
kakobrekla	thank you bfl	[02:52]
Bugpowder	what a crackhead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137459.msg1635957#msg1635957	[02:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @#64; 0.105 = 0.63 BTC [-]	[02:52]
mircea_popescu	lol	[02:53]
Bugpowder	"I'm thinking your 'NO' vote was probably a mistake,"	[02:53]
mircea_popescu	"Together let's avoid a mistakes such as yours"	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	this is why universal literacy is a bad idea.	[02:55]
mircea_popescu	it doesn't make anyone any better, it just gives idiots more ways to manifest.	[02:55]
Bugpowder	how many of the 1000 shares are actually backed by silver, and not vaguely silver related 'investment vehicles' run by the least competent fund manager that does not yet have a scammer tag?	[02:56]
kakobrekla	another round of those would be needed yeah	[02:56]
kakobrekla	dunno it would make any diff anyway	[02:56]
kakobrekla	new will come	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder to quote some other muppet,	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	if you were a smart investor you'd know.	[02:57]
kakobrekla	:D	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	also, they're backed by his guitar	[02:57]
mircea_popescu	which he sold	[02:57]
benkay	hey i have a skateboard	[02:57]
benkay	i can has bitvestments?	[02:58]
Bugpowder	yes	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	sure/	[02:58]
benkay	wat about dog	[02:58]
benkay	can back securities with dog?	[02:58]
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mircea_popescu	you can have a dog on a skateboard hedge fund	[02:58]
kakobrekla	good logo idea	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	actually... from a strict nominalist perspective, "Dog on a Skateboard" ins't a bad name for a fund at all.	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	just as long as the person coming up with the name doesn't run it	[02:58]
mircea_popescu	if that person was someone else other than me i mean	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[02:59]
benkay	i am sorely tempted	[02:59]
benkay	but that would be a distraction from creating value	[02:59]
Bugpowder	ziggap is looking like it was a great investment	[02:59]
pigeons	not	[02:59]
mircea_popescu	http://goxgame.sytes.net/demo/	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	can anyone see that ?	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btct ziggap	[03:00]
assbot	I thought I told you not to touch me.	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	sassy assy.	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	what's it trade under ?	[03:00]
pigeons	bitfunder	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	o i c	[03:00]
mircea_popescu	well... that's how far that went, im too lazy to go look	[03:01]
pigeons	delusional over-leveraged psycho fiat biz	[03:01]
kakobrekla	lol	[03:01]
benkay	mircea_popescu: no	[03:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @#64; 0.00074077 = 1.5927 BTC [-]	[03:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9716 @#64; 0.0007371 = 7.1617 BTC [-]	[03:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5833 @#64; 0.00072579 = 4.2335 BTC [-]	[03:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10618 @#64; 0.00072578 = 7.7063 BTC [-]	[03:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4449 @#64; 0.00072021 = 3.2042 BTC [-]	[03:02]
benkay	bitcoin community is like 5 nines of idiot followers	[03:02]
benkay	and the e-whatever of people who aren't are like "fuck leading these idiots"	[03:02]
benkay	"let's take their money"	[03:03]
benkay	and some miserably small fraction left over is like "you guise lets build awesome post fiat systems o wait nobody cares"	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	ya well... this is an artefact of the utter failure of english culture.	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	when you tell every imbecile that they're good as they are and valuable for existing	[03:03]
benkay	i thought that was a particular hallmark of american culture	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	all you can possibly get is a pointless mass of people only usefull for making salami	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	nah, the english speaking world is pretty much similarly stupid.	[03:04]
benkay	what parts of the world don't suck in this way?	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	be it the us or the commonwealth, this fundamental error of thinking that you are born human rather than become human.	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	pretty much all its enemies. the arabs, for instance. the russians, for another instance.	[03:05]
pigeons	dogs are traditionaly very poor skateboarderes	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	the chinese, whatever.	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	i dunno much about azn	[03:05]
Bugpowder	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzUsTFqtW0	[03:06]
kakobrekla	prolly better than usagi this one.	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	youtube is such a piece of shit. that link above ? "must have flash". however http://www.youtube.com/embed/CQzUsTFqtW0 works	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	whoa kickass dog :D	[03:07]
benkay	they're relatively easy to motivate	[03:08]
benkay	i considered training dogs as a hobby	[03:08]
benkay	heh	[03:08]
benkay	read the way i wrote it, i consider things as a hobby	[03:08]
mircea_popescu	i had dogs and went hunting a while back	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	kinda too lazy for it by now	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	prolly a good thing to do when im old i guess	[03:09]
jborkl	tu.silver having a problem?,no fucking way.the world is ending on that news	[03:10]
BitHub	what's the problem?	[03:11]
mircea_popescu	not really a problem, we were just poking fun at the usagi character	[03:11]
BitHub	ahh	[03:11]
BitHub	i thought something happened to tu.silver	[03:11]
mircea_popescu	nah	[03:12]
jborkl	usagi fund losing value? nothing that earth shattering since glbse	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	nothing has and conceivably nothing will. at all.	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	ever.	[03:12]
BitHub	lulz kk	[03:12]
kakobrekla	!l glbse cpa	[03:12]
assbot	Last trade for CPA on GLBSE was at 0.014 BTC [-]	[03:12]
kakobrekla	ha.	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla any way to get a timestamp "?	[03:12]
kakobrekla	hm	[03:12]
kakobrekla	from my old logs on the other hdd	[03:13]
kakobrekla	which is offline	[03:13]
kakobrekla	:p	[03:13]
jborkl	30d volume 1	[03:13]
kakobrekla	but mircea_popescu must be around date glbse closed	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	oct what, 5th ?	[03:13]
kakobrekla	dunno is it 2013 already?	[03:13]
jborkl	sounds right	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150392.msg1635784#msg1635784	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	the girl back on the horse.	[03:14]
dub	18-07-12-20:49 [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @#64; 0.1013 BTC	[03:15]
kakobrekla	:o	[03:15]
kakobrekla	but that is wrong	[03:15]
kakobrekla	i mean	[03:15]
kakobrekla	10 times wrong	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	wait wut ?	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	so it went from .1 to .01 in three mionths ?!	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	what is this, usagi ?	[03:16]
kakobrekla	ah yeah the date	[03:16]
kakobrekla	hm	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	o wait. it WAS usagi	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	bwahahaha o gawd have mercy	[03:16]
kakobrekla	ya ofc is usagi	[03:16]
kakobrekla	did you think i was OT?	[03:16]
kakobrekla	silly.	[03:16]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yes lol. i recall him doing nyan-whatever	[03:16]
kakobrekla	yea	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	dude people were giving Diablo-D3 a real hard time, but there's better examples of glbse-ness	[03:17]
kakobrekla	!l glbse dmc	[03:17]
assbot	Last trade for DMC on GLBSE was at 0.0666 BTC [-]	[03:17]
kakobrekla	ahahah	[03:17]
Diablo-D3	HAH	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	beastly.	[03:17]
Diablo-D3	thats awesome	[03:17]
kakobrekla	doomed you mean?	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	doomewsome	[03:18]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: not at all, price is heading back up	[03:18]
kakobrekla	yeah you can hardly go below 0	[03:18]
Diablo-D3	people are finally realizing I was right all along	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	!ticker btct dmc	[03:18]
assbot	Your actions are useless.	[03:18]
mircea_popescu	^	[03:18]
dub	fuckin skynet right thar	[03:19]
mircea_popescu	let me guess, dmc is listed on bf too ?	[03:19]
pigeons	yep	[03:19]
pigeons	and no goxgame times out for me	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	im starting to emerge a seeing pattern here	[03:20]
kakobrekla	:o	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	pigeons me too. it's some sort of i dunno what play daytrading puppet made	[03:20]
Bugpowder	any news on coinlab?	[03:21]
Bugpowder	did the beta ever start?	[03:21]
Bugpowder	I signed up immediately	[03:21]
Bugpowder	no response	[03:21]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: whats wrong with bf?	[03:21]
Bugpowder	my mtgox withdrawl is maxed for the month	[03:21]
Bugpowder	just waiting for the rest of the funds to disappear into a coinlab clusterfuck	[03:22]
dub	has gox sent any comms around this?	[03:23]
Diablo-D3	what happened to gox?	[03:23]
dub	I haven't seen an email or notification on teh site	[03:23]
benkay	gox sold their us order book to a new york company, diablo-d3	[03:24]
pigeons	Diablo-D3: gox won't serve us/canada	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 i don't get the tickering	[03:24]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: ahh	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder sucks. why;d you go so deep into gox ?	[03:24]
Diablo-D3	benkay: glad I pulled out of mtgox then	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	you knew they're dubious.	[03:24]
dub	so they are dropping USD and CAD?	[03:25]
Bugpowder	What was stupid was that I got verified, but didn't choose 50k as my max limit	[03:25]
pigeons	i just donated my balance to them i can't satisfy their id requirements despite being well under limits	[03:25]
Bugpowder	because I thought I'd never need it	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	pigeons what do you mean can't ?	[03:25]
Bugpowder	then bitcoins went to $50	[03:25]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: they will hold your ENTIRE balance if you dont ID on request	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder at least it wasn't 64k	[03:25]
Diablo-D3	and never send it back	[03:25]
pigeons	i mean i dont have prood of residency	[03:25]
benkay	here's a crazy question	[03:25]
pigeons	cause im homeless	[03:26]
Diablo-D3	!ticker	[03:26]
Diablo-D3	;;ticker	[03:26]
assbot	I thought I told you not to touch me.	[03:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.46030, Best ask: 47.68000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21970, Last trade: 47.46029, 24 hour volume: 16140.79342397, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.74700, 24 hour vwap: 47.43876	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	uh	[03:26]
pigeons	i live in a van down by the river	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck is "proof of residency"	[03:26]
Bugpowder	Utility bill	[03:26]
pigeons	utility bills from a rescidnce	[03:26]
benkay	is it possible to perform a 51% attack and change the number of bitcoins that will ever be in circulation?	[03:26]
Bugpowder	addressed to your ID address	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	benkay no.	[03:26]
benkay	how no?	[03:26]
pigeons	i have plenty of addresses but they all have utilities included in the payments	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	pigeons ^	[03:27]
Diablo-D3	benkay: because bitcoins are only generated with gen tx	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	that exactly. wtf already.	[03:27]
Diablo-D3	and block depth sets the rewards for those	[03:27]
benkay	hey!	[03:27]
Diablo-D3	pigeons: so what about a bank statement	[03:27]
pigeons	nope you need that too, but you also need a utility bill, and not one i pay for the office, for a residence	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	i seriously can't believe the sort of shit people in the united soviets have to put up with.	[03:28]
Diablo-D3	so tell him everything is included in the rent and he must comply with US Federal law	[03:28]
pigeons	and your supposed to only need those when you hit certain limits, except when you don't	[03:28]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: well that isn't it, he's pulling out of the US because people are pressuring him to comply with the law	[03:28]
pigeons	fuck it i dont care i just havent used them since, about a year now	[03:28]
Bugpowder	Round 2 "There's really no reason to vote NO on any of my securities."	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 i sold like 100 btc on bitcoin-central.	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	i needed an id and a bank account.	[03:29]
Bugpowder	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133168.40	[03:29]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: thats all they're required to ask for	[03:29]
pigeons	i treid to get my funds out again recently when i heard about coinlab, but same issue	[03:29]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: unless there is a federal investigation and the bank is proxying for it, they cant ask you for anything else	[03:29]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: and thats per the PATRIOT act	[03:29]
pigeons	well, they do	[03:29]
Diablo-D3	pigeons: yes, because mtgox is not a bank	[03:29]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 this is yurp based tho	[03:29]
Diablo-D3	and does not have any lawyers	[03:29]
pigeons	that's the main reason the fake utility bills are sold on silk road	[03:30]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: doesnt matter. us customers, us currency, they must comply with the law	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	pigeons i was thinking, how hard can it be to fake one	[03:30]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: this is why hes pulling out	[03:30]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 yes, this is exactly the point. us citizens are becoming the underserved inhabitants of a financial ghetto.	[03:30]
pigeons	yeah woulod seem a lot of work to call each utility company and verify you didnt just change the name and address or date from an old one	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	it's a sad state of affairs	[03:31]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yes, and this is why we invented bitcoin in the first place	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	pigeons except utility corp is not allowed to answer.	[03:31]
Diablo-D3	what everyone should do is just blacklist mtgox and label all mtgox employees with scammer tags on the forums	[03:31]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 well... the one positive step forward is if we could move off the mtgox-based usd price to a community fixing price.	[03:31]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: well, I dont get why the fuck we're even measuring in USD	[03:32]
BitHub	:)	[03:32]
Diablo-D3	we should be measuring it in ounces of gold.	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	cause the euro is about to implode	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	and you gotta measure it in some sort of slave scrip	[03:32]
Diablo-D3	no you dont	[03:32]
Diablo-D3	I want it measured in ounces of gold.	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	for as long as you intend to allow scripslaves to get on the wagon	[03:32]
Diablo-D3	and nothing but.	[03:32]
BitHub	why?	[03:32]
pigeons	i imagine people will still want to trade usd for bitcoins after coinlab, but i doubt they will use coinlab long	[03:32]
mircea_popescu	well the nothing butt part might be difficult.	[03:32]
Diablo-D3	BitHub: because gold is real	[03:33]
BitHub	do you only have gold?	[03:33]
Diablo-D3	usd isnt	[03:33]
mircea_popescu	dude it's so complicated to pay in gold.	[03:33]
Diablo-D3	i can hold gold in my hand, I can't hold usd in my hand, I get some fictional make believe piece of paper instead	[03:33]
BitHub	going to the store and buying stuff with cash is more real than buying it with gold	[03:33]
Diablo-D3	the government can devalue your USD at any time	[03:33]
kakobrekla	interesting that same thing is being discussed for the fifth time in like a week.	[03:33]
Diablo-D3	its fictional and worthless	[03:33]
Diablo-D3	its not even good as toliet paper, I've tried	[03:33]
BitHub	oh you mean by like doing a forking?	[03:33]
BitHub	like that?	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	ima go make myself a dessert.	[03:34]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: what, really?	[03:34]
BitHub	the dev's, mtgox can devalue bitcoin at any time	[03:34]
pigeons	im gonna try that toliet paper trick	[03:34]
tiberiusiv	the euro is not going to implode	[03:34]
vampireb	banks can asky for anythign they want	[03:34]
kakobrekla	well not the gold part cause that is stupid	[03:34]
vampireb	they're private	[03:34]
kakobrekla	but the other parts.	[03:35]
BitHub	i was reading that the price on mtgox was suppose to crash once but mtgox halted and it and ignored it trying to avoid a meltdown	[03:35]
BitHub	talk about manipulation	[03:35]
pigeons	citation needed	[03:35]
BitHub	give me few mins	[03:35]
Diablo-D3	yeah, thats why I pulled my btc out	[03:35]
Diablo-D3	I was going to sell more soon as we went past $50	[03:35]
Diablo-D3	but fuck it	[03:35]
tiberiusiv	bithub: too bad there is 4-5 other exchangs to reference price	[03:35]
Diablo-D3	;;ticker	[03:35]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.45136, Best ask: 47.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.29864, Last trade: 47.75000, 24 hour volume: 16460.01280008, 24 hour low: 46.80000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 47.44219	[03:35]
Bugpowder	Let's not confuse "mtgox's trading engine blows" with "mtgox is propping up the price by slowing orders"	[03:35]
Diablo-D3	nanotube owns gribble right?	[03:35]
Bugpowder	He is user #1	[03:36]
Diablo-D3	I think gribble needs to pull best bid and ask from all exchanges	[03:36]
Diablo-D3	and the same with the rest of the numbers	[03:36]
pigeons	well it isnt apples to apples	[03:36]
BitHub	averages	[03:36]
Diablo-D3	BitHub: no, best of	[03:36]
pigeons	goxusd is not the same as btce usd	[03:36]
Diablo-D3	pigeons: yes, but it can be	[03:37]
Bugpowder	heheh	[03:37]
Bugpowder	no	[03:37]
Diablo-D3	I can pull btc out of mtgox and then put it in btce and make the transaction	[03:37]
Bugpowder	MPOE has a different risk profile than S.DICE	[03:37]
Bugpowder	BTCe has a different risk profile than MTgox	[03:37]
jborkl	well,my asshole was going to implode once ,but my stomach stopped it.my asshole said thanks that was going to be bad for evveryone	[03:37]
BitHub	we need like a temple, and sacrifice a virgin every morning and ask the Satoshi Gods to name their price for the day	[03:37]
Bugpowder	Is a dollar at bitfloor = a dollar at mtgox?	[03:37]
vampireb	BTCe is in Russia. so yea it's different	[03:37]
vampireb	bitfloor is in NY	[03:38]
Diablo-D3	BitHub: well, Im seriously considering starting a religion	[03:38]
vampireb	Mtgox is in Japan	[03:38]
vampireb	3 different profiles completely	[03:38]
pigeons	a bird in the hand is worth 2 in your bush	[03:38]
Diablo-D3	vampireb: all I'm hearing is "trust no exchange"	[03:38]
vampireb	correct.	[03:38]
vampireb	i dont trust anyone	[03:38]
BitHub	i'm doing a bitcoin political party and religion under the same branch	[03:38]
BitHub	all sides covered	[03:38]
Diablo-D3	BitHub: religion and politics should never mix	[03:39]
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BitHub	they mix well when acting as a sheild or bucket	[03:39]
BitHub	it makes sense to mix the two together	[03:39]
tiberiusiv	low trading volume for a few days already	[03:39]
Bugpowder	who wants to deposit into mtgox when on Mar 22nd you can deposit to coinlab....	[03:41]
Bugpowder	or on the 31st	[03:41]
Bugpowder	or sometime in the vague future	[03:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @#64; 0.54 = 1.08 BTC [-]	[03:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @#64; 0.8885 = 8.885 BTC [-]	[03:48]
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BitHub	deposit into coinlab and face never ending problems	[03:49]
BitHub	once coinlab is done bending you over, hello irs	[03:49]
Bugpowder	Gox is the same	[03:50]
Bugpowder	IRS is gonna get their share	[03:50]
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benkay	btc is not for the us	[03:50]
benkay	it's for the rest of the world	[03:50]
Bugpowder	ALthough I will forcefully argue that it should be considered a longterm capital gain	[03:50]
benkay	poor silicon valley entrepreneurs don't get it	[03:50]
Bugpowder	rather than collectable.	[03:50]
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benkay	although ten years from now this country will be all "wtf bitcoins? i thought that was a scam…"	[03:51]
smickles	no mpoebot?	[03:51]
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benkay	popcorn	[03:51]
kakobrekla	benkay imma gonna start charging for that, cause of all the cleaning up i have to do afterwards.	[03:51]
benkay	hey dude	[03:52]
benkay	i paid for my ticket	[03:52]
benkay	serfs are supposed to be gratis	[03:52]
kakobrekla	:)	[03:52]
smickles	usagi: hiya :)	[03:53]
Bugpowder	usagi, I think you are needed in Cyprus for this confiscation vote	[03:54]
pigeons	good news usagi, silver down	[03:54]
Bugpowder	Just tell the people "I'm thinking your 'NO' vote was probably a mistake"	[03:55]
Bugpowder	silver popped, is fading now	[03:56]
pigeons	aww sorry	[03:56]
Bugpowder	but yeah, cyprus is presumably bullish for silver	[03:56]
kakobrekla	;l glbse bmf	[03:58]
kakobrekla	!l glbse bmf	[03:58]
assbot	Last trade for BMF on GLBSE was at 0.45999999 BTC [+]	[03:58]
mircea_popescu	anyone here know what urda is ?	[03:59]
kakobrekla	Urdă is a Romanian fresh white cheese made by reprocessing the whey drained from cheeses such as caş or telemea.	[04:00]
mircea_popescu	citation needed << he prolly means the hack 1 cent per btc episode mid 2011	[04:00]
pigeons	o	[04:00]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla it's not really made out of whey, but it is the queen of soft sweet cheeses	[04:02]
assbot	Last trade for COGNITIVE on GLBSE was at 0.575 BTC [-]	[04:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11863 @#64; 0.00072006 = 8.5421 BTC [-]	[04:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @#64; 0.8884 = 2.6652 BTC [-]	[04:08]
mircea_popescu	sooo... btc deposited at mpex public address over 100k.	[04:09]
Bugpowder	Congrats!	[04:10]
Namworld	I thought it already went over that before.	[04:10]
Bugpowder	Time Between Blocks 6.79 (minutes)	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	Namworld possibly you're thinking total inbound	[04:11]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: You mean 100k TOTAL CURRENT DEPOSITS?!?	[04:11]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder no i mean, just 1Fx3N5iFPDQxUKhhmDJqCMmi3U8Y7gSncx excluding 1JPvucRfu3ZzEvfBUQTJwsxMrZjeTqD6zR etc	[04:11]
Bugpowder	oh ok	[04:12]
Bugpowder	cause if you control more than 100k BTC	[04:12]
ThickAsThieves	;;bc,stats	[04:12]
gribble	Current Blocks: 226473 \| Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 \| Next Difficulty In: 1334 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 1 minute, and 7 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 6149093.71363 \| Estimated Percent Change: 26.84697	[04:12]
Bugpowder	starting to get risky	[04:12]
Bugpowder	you could run	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	i control way more than 100k lol	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	and have, for a while.	[04:12]
Bugpowder	LIQUID?	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	yes liquid.	[04:13]
Bugpowder	not S.MPOE	[04:13]
smickles	Bugpowder: he prolly won't run so long as btc < s.mpoe value	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	what, you thought im destitute ?	[04:13]
Bugpowder	no	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	not opm's tho. my own.	[04:13]
Bugpowder	I thought you had ~ $5MM and 50-100k BTC	[04:13]
Bugpowder	just an educated guess	[04:13]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: do we have a bitcoin lawyer yet?	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 depends on who's whe	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	we*	[04:14]
smickles	'MM' == 'Mega Millions!!!'	[04:14]
Diablo-D3	the community	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	that i dunno	[04:14]
Diablo-D3	damn	[04:14]
Bugpowder	I think giga is providing one	[04:14]
Bugpowder	for the community	[04:14]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: I dont mean for that	[04:14]
Diablo-D3	someone whos good at business law and shit	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	there was a guy on the forum a year bacl	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	but in general lawyers are on private retainers.	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	the community can't afford it.	[04:15]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: which is expensive. meh.	[04:15]
Bugpowder	A decent associate is around $300 / hr	[04:15]
Diablo-D3	like, if I want to issue those corporate bonds, I'm going to need a lawyer	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	like, totally.	[04:15]
Bugpowder	that's transactional shit dude	[04:15]
mircea_popescu	prepare yourself for 50k downpayment.	[04:15]
smickles	;;calc 31/1.05	[04:16]
gribble	29.5238095238	[04:16]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yeah =/	[04:16]
Diablo-D3	thats more money thav I have	[04:16]
Bugpowder	you could get by with a lower level of lawyer then	[04:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @#64; 0.00071767 = 3.2295 BTC [-]	[04:16]
Bugpowder	someone who is making $60k / year	[04:16]
smickles	;;calc 31/1.014	[04:16]
gribble	30.5719921105	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder the problem is that in a field like "i wanna issue btc bonds" the opinion of a lawyer that makes 60k a month	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	is no different from the oppinion of the bus driver	[04:17]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: the point if they're btc or not doesn't matter	[04:17]
Bugpowder	http://lawfirmsuccess.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/so-called-second-tier-lawyers-relish-new-options/	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 here's a tip : if you live in a smallish town see who your town used to advise on their bonds	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	(which is public info)	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	and go by their offices dressed nicely and being polite and ask	[04:17]
Bugpowder	You can get people that know how to do paperwork for you for cheap	[04:17]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: how would I find that out?	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 it's published somewhere, but you'll have to go digging	[04:18]
Bugpowder	http://www.legalzoom.com	[04:18]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: why do you think my town issued bonds anyhow?	[04:18]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: fuck legalzoom, that shit is a scam	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	cause i doubt any town didn't	[04:18]
Bugpowder	lol	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	what ?!	[04:18]
mircea_popescu	when did legalzoom become a scam ?	[04:18]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: my town is old enough that it was here before 1776	[04:18]
Diablo-D3	legalzoom is in trouble in multiple states	[04:19]
smickles	no need for legal zoom to be a scam, there's a big market for that service	[04:19]
Bugpowder	Diablo-D3: have they ever finanaced any infrastructure improvements?	[04:19]
Diablo-D3	iirc for practicing law in those states without having a lawyer from those states on staff	[04:19]
Bugpowder	probably yes	[04:19]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: dont think so	[04:19]
Diablo-D3	I wish they would	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	get out, what town is this, potato idaho ?	[04:19]
smickles	xyz, mass.	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	they had bonds.	[04:20]
Diablo-D3	and like, the high school they built like 15 years ago was all done with federal grants	[04:20]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yeah, but who buys the bonds? where does the city's income come from?	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	taxes	[04:20]
smickles	Diablo-D3: you're describing the typical american town	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	and usually pension funds buy some sort of derivative off the bonds	[04:20]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: town doesnt collect taxes though	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	banks hold them and do the packaging/slicing	[04:20]
Diablo-D3	smickles: well, I'm trying to figure out how much its going to cost to get this shit off the ground	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	it's a town witout revenue ? how does it pay fo the mayor/town administrator	[04:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @#64; 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-]	[04:21]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I dunno, how DO towns collect taxes?	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	usually you pay for water and sewage	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	often enough there's a tax on power distribution	[04:21]
Diablo-D3	ahh, I dont pay for either of those	[04:21]
smickles	some with local sales tax	[04:22]
Diablo-D3	and Im not taxed directly for power, so its on my bill somewhere	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	they get income from cell companies towers, from billboards on town limits	[04:22]
smickles	some with local property tax	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	from various fines	[04:22]
Diablo-D3	and we dont have local sales tax	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	it's a list	[04:22]
Diablo-D3	and I dont think we have local property tax either	[04:22]
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smickles	yeah, local fines, police quotas	[04:22]
Diablo-D3	heh, we have like 6 cops	[04:22]
Diablo-D3	they couldnt quota if they tried	[04:23]
Diablo-D3	nothing happens in this town	[04:23]
Diablo-D3	ever	[04:23]
Diablo-D3	like, it was big news a few years back some dickhead graffitied on the side of a building	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	well... if the yearly budget is like 10mn or somesuch maybe they never issued paper	[04:23]
Diablo-D3	thats never happened before	[04:23]
tiberiusiv	dont you pay property taxes diablo?	[04:24]
Diablo-D3	tiberiusiv: I dont own property	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	he sublets from pigeons	[04:24]
tiberiusiv	your landlord	[04:24]
Diablo-D3	but Im pretty sure the only property taxes we pay is to the state	[04:24]
tiberiusiv	no you are wrong	[04:24]
Diablo-D3	dude, do you live here?	[04:24]
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tiberiusiv	ive lived in a bunch of US states	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/graphics/08_22_10_property_tax/	[04:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @#64; 0.0007144 = 3.6434 BTC [-]	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	look it up there.	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	the state doesn't do property taxes, they're a local concern.	[04:25]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I live in maine lol.	[04:25]
mircea_popescu	ah	[04:25]
Diablo-D3	smickles: but yeah, basically, I wanna do DMC legit.	[04:25]
Diablo-D3	smickles: all the paperwork, all the is dotted and ts crossed	[04:25]
Diablo-D3	smickles: mircea_popescu thinks I'll spend like $50k	[04:26]
tiberiusiv	whats DMC?	[04:26]
kakobrekla	!l glbse dmc	[04:26]
assbot	Last trade for DMC on GLBSE was at 0.0666 BTC [-]	[04:26]
Diablo-D3	tiberiusiv: an uncompany.	[04:26]
smickles	Diablo-D3: for the 'green' dc/mining op, i could see 50k in organizational expenses	[04:26]
tiberiusiv	what are you trying to do	[04:26]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: you know whats ironic? we're now paying more dividends than we ever did on glbse	[04:26]
Diablo-D3	tiberiusiv: long story.	[04:27]
kakobrekla	ironic? thats what alanis thought.	[04:27]
kakobrekla	it just sad.	[04:27]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder http://legalzoomfraud.blogspot.ro/2008/05/use-of-forms-leads-to-litigation.html that one's cute	[04:27]
smickles	if you have the time to research tings yourself, sites like legalzoom just seem silly	[04:28]
Bugpowder	that site looks legit	[04:28]
Diablo-D3	yeah, I think legalzoom really is a scam	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	smickles basically some guy made a trust, but didn't properly account for revocation	[04:28]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: it looks TOO legit	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	his wife died, he couldn't revoke the trust	[04:28]
Diablo-D3	thats the problem	[04:28]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 for people with a clue, which mostly means 10 years as a paralegal and up, it's a useful shortcut	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	everyone else has not much business there other than for entertainment purposes.	[04:29]
Diablo-D3	meh I wish people I knew in high school wernt all potheads or drunks	[04:29]
Diablo-D3	you'd think ONE of them would have become a lawyer	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	this is why parents strive to take kids to good school districts.	[04:30]
Diablo-D3	I'd be like "remember that one time I saved you from that bully?"	[04:30]
kakobrekla	hed be like "no"	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	the question of course becomes why arent YOU a lawyer	[04:30]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: because law doesn't interest me that way	[04:30]
tiberiusiv	he was one of the pothead or drunks	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	you could now provide free expert advice to all the potheads who saved you from each other.	[04:31]
Bugpowder	also there is a lot disciplines	[04:31]
kakobrekla	:D	[04:31]
Diablo-D3	tiberiusiv: I neither smoke nor drink.	[04:31]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: ha ha, I never needed saving.	[04:31]
Bugpowder	you need a corporate law transactional lawyer	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder he's married to the wrong girl isnt he.	[04:31]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I was the tallest kid in my grade until my junior year	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	iwas the tallest guy in my grade all through college.	[04:31]
Diablo-D3	yeah, so you know what its like then	[04:31]
mircea_popescu	it's pretty cool.	[04:32]
Bugpowder	Basically everyone is but me	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder lol.	[04:32]
Diablo-D3	it was usually kids from my class picking on kids from the class under us	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	yes yes, i'm envious. choke on it!!1	[04:32]
Diablo-D3	somehow I became the good guy. not sure what went wrong there.	[04:32]
Bugpowder	Diablo-D3: Why not go to your state's bar association website and use their legal referral service to find a local laywer that specializes in your field of question	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	then send some people to beat him up, come by and save him	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	for 20 bucks worth of pot you've got yourself a friend.	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: lol	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	you think people here buy pot?	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	fuck no	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	meth, whatever.	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	everyone has an attic or basement, and its full of growlights	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	you just said they're potheads	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	o srsly ?	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	yeah, its fucking maine	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	we dont have that much money	[04:33]
mircea_popescu	what sort of fucking fantasia is this, a town with 6 cops and 6000 growlights	[04:33]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: /me shrugs	[04:34]
benkay	portland oregon	[04:34]
Bugpowder	Arcata	[04:34]
Diablo-D3	theres a few kids in jail too, but they were the drunks	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	soon enough half california is moving there	[04:34]
Bugpowder	Humbolt	[04:34]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder i know a chick that went to humbolt. she hated it.	[04:34]
smickles	;;calc 75/(1-.001)	[04:34]
gribble	75.0750750751	[04:34]
Diablo-D3	and I think like half the girls were pregnant before they would have got out of college if they had actually went	[04:34]
Bugpowder	Portland Maine?	[04:34]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: farther north.	[04:34]
Diablo-D3	at least you got the right state	[04:35]
mircea_popescu	the thing with maine is, no matter what you pick ppl go "further north"	[04:35]
Bugpowder	Caribou	[04:35]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: not that far north damnit	[04:35]
Diablo-D3	caribou isnt even part of maine anymore	[04:35]
Diablo-D3	they all speak french up there and shit	[04:36]
Diablo-D3	fucking canadians	[04:36]
Bugpowder	ha	[04:36]
Diablo-D3	seriously, if one of my neighbors goes "eh, those hosers, eh?" Im going to slug them	[04:37]
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benkay	aggro much?	[04:37]
Diablo-D3	I hate canada :<	[04:38]
Diablo-D3	smickles: but yeah, no wonder the US economy is in shambles	[04:38]
Diablo-D3	smickles: it costs $50k to start a company the right way	[04:38]
kakobrekla	O_o	[04:38]
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Bugpowder	Diablo-D3: I don't think so	[04:39]
mircea_popescu	depends a lot on the sort of company you're starting.	[04:39]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: the kind that makes money	[04:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14726 @#64; 0.00070743 = 10.4176 BTC [-]	[04:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6074 @#64; 0.00071737 = 4.3573 BTC [+]	[04:40]
Bugpowder	Get an angel	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	it's more of the case of, "the kind you shouldn't be starting if you're poor"	[04:40]
Bugpowder	If your idea is so great	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	believe it or not there is such a subset.	[04:40]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: that'd be anything that makes money	[04:40]
Bugpowder	The angel funding environment is better than it has ever been	[04:40]
smickles	Diablo-D3: actually, Smickles Accounting Services, a limited company is profitable as of today	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	pretty much everything involving the handling of money is not something that should be done by people without the experience of handling money.	[04:40]
Diablo-D3	like, I could, pretty much, overnight fuck Amazon's cloud business over hard	[04:40]
Diablo-D3	it'd just cost about $100m =/	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder has a point there. if organised freakshows / circus acts a la what gets funded by ycombinator can get 500k	[04:41]
pigeons	anybody could, but how much would it make you	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	pretty much a walking zombie could get 50k	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	I dont live in california though	[04:41]
Bugpowder	granted it might be harder in maine	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	or nyc	[04:41]
Bugpowder	why not move?	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	train from maine to nyc costs you less than what you can panhandle in a day	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	because moving wouldnt do anything	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	maine is the optimum location for this business	[04:42]
smickles	we've been in operation since jan14 this year, and today we just overcame the organizational expeses	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	dude. just visit.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	smickles wd!	[04:42]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: visit _what_	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	nyc.	[04:42]
smickles	thx :)	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	go there suck up to angels.	[04:42]
Diablo-D3	dude, I know no one in nyc	[04:42]
Bugpowder	find some angles	[04:42]
Diablo-D3	I dont even own a fucking suit	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	listen, i knew no one in any town i went to.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	it takes what, two hours to pick up a chick get shown around.	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	and that if you lunch.	[04:42]
Diablo-D3	goddamnit, whoever runs whatever shoutcast station Im listening to, STOP SENDING GARBAGE THROUGH THE PIPE	[04:43]
Diablo-D3	I think Im deaf in one ear now	[04:43]
kakobrekla	it is called "shout"cast aint it	[04:43]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: you're one of those type A personalities though	[04:43]
Diablo-D3	Im not	[04:43]
Bugpowder	you might not be good at starting a business	[04:43]
Bugpowder	you need a partner	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	type a for asshole ?	[04:43]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: yeah, and who would I trust for that job?	[04:43]
Diablo-D3	Ive given people tiny little bits of trust, and look what they do with it	[04:44]
Bugpowder	Well, you could try to present your idea to some freshly minted MBAs	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder incidentally, i think he's describing the problem that keeps 90% from all ventures from happening.	[04:44]
Bugpowder	Many business schools have courses where people come pitch their idea	[04:44]
Bugpowder	and MBAs link up with them	[04:44]
mircea_popescu	people with technical ability tend to be shy and suspicious. not trying to imply he has any technical ability ofcourse :D	[04:44]
Bugpowder	there are more MBAs out there than good ideas / people with skills	[04:45]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: oh gee thanks	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	i got your back bro :D	[04:45]
Bugpowder	You just need to find a decent MBA dude to partner with	[04:45]
Diablo-D3	I'd like to have a cofounder	[04:45]
Bugpowder	you should	[04:45]
Diablo-D3	but I don't want to be stuck as the technical cofounder	[04:45]
Bugpowder	you should have 2-3 people	[04:46]
Bugpowder	dude	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	ideally 3.	[04:46]
Bugpowder	you are stuck as nothing right now	[04:46]
Diablo-D3	I'd like to have someone who isn't an idiot when it comes to technology	[04:46]
Diablo-D3	usagi: zuckerberg stole an idea and then sued his way out of trouble	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	3 is the magic number. if you get a chick and you both do her especially.	[04:46]
Diablo-D3	usagi: he had OTHER people do the technical work nearly for free	[04:46]
smickles	consider the word 'company'	[04:46]
Diablo-D3	usagi: the fucker doesn't even know how to program	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 same thing happened with the steves	[04:46]
Diablo-D3	smickles: yes, and consider what an LLC is	[04:46]
mircea_popescu	jobs pretty much fucked over woz	[04:46]
smickles	Diablo-D3: heh, i have a simple business tho	[04:47]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I still think steve jobs died in 1984	[04:47]
Bugpowder	Diablo-D3: You could start by reading ALL OF THIS. http://blakemasters.com/peter-thiels-cs183-startup/	[04:47]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: and its just bee a massive coverup ever since	[04:47]
Diablo-D3	>peter thiel	[04:47]
Diablo-D3	oh hai	[04:47]
Bugpowder	it's just one perspective, but it a better one than you have right now	[04:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12580 @#64; 0.00071737 = 9.0245 BTC [+]	[04:47]
mircea_popescu	signed.	[04:47]
smickles	$mpexlag	[04:48]
mpexbot	smickles: 0.099424123764 seconds	[04:48]
smickles	what's the other one?	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	zee outrage	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	;;goxlag	[04:48]
gribble	0.131244 seconds	[04:48]
smickles	$email	[04:48]
mpexbot	smickles: No new messages received.	[04:48]
smickles	inbox 0	[04:48]
smickles	hells ya	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	$email	[04:49]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: No new messages received.	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	cool.	[04:49]
Bugpowder	Delaware's Div of Corporations charges $1,000 for 1 hour processing. For when you absolutely, positively must incorporate by lunchtime	[04:49]
smickles	1 hour processing?!!	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	pretty cool service actually.	[04:49]
smickles	i waited like 2 months D:	[04:49]
smickles	and they lost my paperwork the first time	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	smickles in exchange, you paid your organisational expenses by march 18th :D	[04:50]
Bugpowder	Delaware's 2012 rev = $3.36 billion, 30% of which (abt $985M) was from franchise+corp taxes+biz fees	[04:50]
smickles	mircea_popescu: heh, yeah :)	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	$mpexlag	[04:50]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: 0.115979194641 seconds	[04:50]
mircea_popescu	fucking bs routers	[04:50]
smickles	that's 'a startup' tho, they play by different rules	[04:51]
Diablo-D3	usagi: I've heard this, and yes, I agree	[04:51]
Diablo-D3	smickles: this is still a startup	[04:51]
Diablo-D3	smickles: it just has a massive scope	[04:51]
smickles	ha	[04:51]
Bugpowder	what is 'this'?	[04:51]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: dmc 2.0	[04:52]
Bugpowder	First, drop the 2.0. Call it DMC^2	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	haha	[04:52]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: hurrr, its not actually going to be called dmc 2.0	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	i tihnk in about five years the cost of a seat on this chan will be like... 30 btc.	[04:52]
Diablo-D3	I have a name picked out	[04:52]
kakobrekla	DMC^2 is something like bbbb?	[04:52]
Bugpowder	a grown man's fantasy?	[04:53]
Bugpowder	yes	[04:53]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: huh?	[04:53]
Bugpowder	lol	[04:53]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: I dont get the reference	[04:53]
kakobrekla	its ok.	[04:53]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85829.msg1634650#msg1634650	[04:55]
mircea_popescu	hey look at that, ciuciu has funds now	[04:55]
Diablo-D3	anyhow	[04:56]
Diablo-D3	I dunno, I think where I failed with DMC is I paired the plan down too small	[04:57]
kakobrekla	shoulda left it with 1 mio btc	[04:57]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: yeah, and I shouldnt have paired it down to only a dozen or two racks	[04:58]
Diablo-D3	the original plan I didn't show anyone in the bitcoin community was on the order of a hundred racks or more	[04:58]
Diablo-D3	using today's tech, I can pretty much take $100m and have more storage than Amazon, and they're currently the largest public storage pool available	[04:59]
Bugpowder	do you think that is why they are winning?	[04:59]
Bugpowder	they have the most drives?	[04:59]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: yes, I actually do	[05:00]
Diablo-D3	they're physically the biggest	[05:00]
Diablo-D3	its not because they're a successful bookstore.	[05:00]
Bugpowder	You are familiar with the Yegge rant right?	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	hum	[05:00]
Diablo-D3	(oddly enough, I finally ordered a book from them for the first time, and I've done thousands of dollars of business with them over the past however many years)	[05:00]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: maybe, url?	[05:01]
Bugpowder	https://plus.google.com/112678702228711889851/posts/eVeouesvaVX	[05:02]
Bugpowder	1) All teams will henceforth expose their data and functionality through service interfaces. 2) Teams must communicate with each other through these interfaces. 3) There will be no other form of interprocess communication allowed:	[05:02]
Bugpowder	5) All service interfaces, without exception, must be designed from the ground up to be externalizable.	[05:02]
Bugpowder	6) Anyone who doesn't do this will be fired.	[05:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @#64; 0.00070735 = 3.5368 BTC [-]	[05:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @#64; 0.00070573 = 9.7391 BTC [-]	[05:02]
Diablo-D3	oh heh, I've read this one	[05:02]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: however, I agree with jeff bezos's mandate	[05:03]
Diablo-D3	he basically did what IBM already did in the 60s	[05:03]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136357582265.png check out this work of cubism	[05:03]
Bugpowder	Nikkei is NOT happy	[05:04]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: lol?	[05:04]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder ya asian mkts are getting the hammering	[05:04]
Bugpowder	aiight	[05:04]
Bugpowder	I'm going to bed. Wasted enough time here... See ya next week.	[05:05]
Bugpowder	Panic will commence at 0700 hours tomorrow morning	[05:05]
Bugpowder	personal panic	[05:05]
Diablo-D3	why?	[05:05]
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Diablo-D3	heh	[05:07]
Diablo-D3	sigh.	[05:07]
Diablo-D3	I dunno.	[05:07]
Diablo-D3	I want DMC 2.0 to be successful	[05:08]
smickles	https://smickles.com/mpex-gui/ << love it peeps	[05:10]
smickles	kakobrekla: were you the one who mentioned working on a kalman filter based trade bot?	[05:11]
kakobrekla	yeah what about it	[05:12]
smickles	how's the project been doing?	[05:12]
kakobrekla	ah well i have build various indicators based on it	[05:12]
kakobrekla	packing the latest one into a bot as we speak	[05:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @#64; 0.33318 BTC [-]	[05:13]
smickles	neat. I thought it sounded promising :)	[05:14]
kakobrekla	is not bad at all	[05:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24044 @#64; 0.00071737 = 17.2484 BTC [+]	[05:20]
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kakobrekla	mircea_popescu that didnt take long https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151354.msg1636288#msg1636288	[05:28]
mircea_popescu	haha cool	[05:28]
kakobrekla	moar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=154272.msg1636282#msg1636282	[05:28]
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mircea_popescu	this will end in tears.	[05:29]
kakobrekla	hm	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	looks to me like a lot of newcomers drinking the visibility coolaid	[05:29]
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mircea_popescu	;;later tell bugpowder you know that google rant was useful. i still don't think facebook is worth over 10 bucks but at least i understand now why it's not worth zero.	[05:32]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[05:32]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: that rant popped up on HN shortly after it was posted	[05:35]
Diablo-D3	I enjoyed it	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	i don't really follow/care about them gizmo corps	[05:35]
Diablo-D3	you're not technically minded, thats why	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	i am technically minded, i just don't happen to be a hipster.	[05:37]
Diablo-D3	I find large scale data storage a very interesting topic	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	in and of itself, sure.	[05:37]
Diablo-D3	I dont really care for what facebook actually is though	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	the dickering, bickering, woes and troubles of wanna-be tech corps like google etc however...	[05:37]
Diablo-D3	I dont even have a facebook account	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	it'd be of interest if i were trying to marry a google paycheck or something.	[05:38]
Diablo-D3	I dunno, I may just replace google at some point	[05:38]
Diablo-D3	google is a defective product.	[05:38]
pigeons	well it works alright for google. not so well long term for many users	[05:40]
Diablo-D3	yeah, I dont care about shareholder masturbation	[05:40]
Diablo-D3	it doesn't provide me any value	[05:40]
Diablo-D3	money, well, doesn't really have that much of a grip in me	[05:40]
Diablo-D3	I'm more about the learning and doing, not the owning	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	then you should get a job	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	starting companies is not for you.	[05:41]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: no company exists that can do what I want.	[05:42]
Diablo-D3	so that, too, is something I must do.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	not how this works.	[05:42]
Diablo-D3	yes, this is whats wrong with this planet	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	if there's no company that does what you want and you can;'t start one, you sit and cry till someone else makes it	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	you don't become magically qualified just because.	[05:42]
Diablo-D3	I'm more than qualified to do the technical work	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	that's besides the point.	[05:43]
Diablo-D3	I'd rather delegate the actual business shit to someone else	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	only people who understand and productively apply owning things can start companies.	[05:43]
Diablo-D3	I haven't found anyone particularly qualified for the position	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	that's the entire point. owning.	[05:43]
Diablo-D3	"productively owning things"	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	yea	[05:43]
Diablo-D3	productivity does not come out of owning things.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	o yes it does.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	the only source of productivity is ownership.	[05:44]
Diablo-D3	then I must be the richest person on the planet.	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	or just the person with the worst instrumentation.	[05:44]
Diablo-D3	the things I care about simply cannot be bought.	[05:44]
smickles	;;ticker	[05:45]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.30011, Best ask: 47.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19988, Last trade: 47.50000, 24 hour volume: 17273.34835843, 24 hour low: 46.81000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 47.47338	[05:45]
Diablo-D3	this is why money just doesn't feature that big in my life.	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	ya well... that's fine, but you'll never go anywhere with a company.	[05:45]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I think you've misunderstood somewhere.	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	possibly.	[05:45]
Diablo-D3	Any company I run will be highly efficient.	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	more like, you'll wish for any company you run to be highly efficient.	[05:46]
Diablo-D3	It will not be one of these… whatever the fuck you call companies like IBM or Google	[05:46]
Diablo-D3	all this money wasted on dumb shit	[05:46]
Diablo-D3	I mean, yes, I understand this is how all shareholder owned companies work	[05:46]
BitHub	osbourne?	[05:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.8748 BTC [+]	[05:47]
Diablo-D3	they're highly inefficient and do not put money into improving the user experience.	[05:47]
Diablo-D3	s/user/customer/	[05:47]
Diablo-D3	I have no interest in even working for such companies.	[05:47]
Diablo-D3	They simply can't do what I need them to do.	[05:47]
Diablo-D3	I mean, hell, if Google was serious about becoming the Internet or whatever nonsense they have cooked up this week, they'd just go private already and go back to work.	[05:48]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: companies exist for one reason and one reason only	[05:48]
Diablo-D3	to make money.	[05:48]
[//]	Unless they're NPO	[05:49]
Diablo-D3	any company who is inefficient enough to leave money on the table like that simply does not deserve to exist	[05:49]
Diablo-D3	amazon could have cornered the entire cloud market	[05:49]
Diablo-D3	they could have bankrupted almost every competitor	[05:49]
Diablo-D3	and they haven't.	[05:50]
Diablo-D3	they screwed up.	[05:50]
BitHub	bank commercials tell me all the time how much they care about me tho	[05:52]
Diablo-D3	they care about your money	[05:52]
Diablo-D3	they dont care about you.	[05:52]
Diablo-D3	and since they you dont have any money	[05:52]
Diablo-D3	they care even less about you.	[05:52]
BitHub	so they're not going to come to my daughters graduation then?	[05:52]
BitHub	rude pricks	[05:52]
pigeons	statefarm insurance is a good neighbor	[05:53]
BitHub	D3 i don't have money? lulz	[05:53]
BitHub	okey	[05:53]
Diablo-D3	no, but they'll be happy to loan her money she can never repay to go to college.	[05:53]
Diablo-D3	BitHub: unless you;re a millionare, no.	[05:53]
BitHub	ahh i see	[05:53]
BitHub	real money	[05:54]
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Diablo-D3	yeah, real money	[05:54]
BitHub	company = being a target	[05:56]
pigeons	going outside = being a target	[05:57]
pigeons	get a bigger gun	[05:58]
BitHub	i must be the only person lucky enough to roll without burners	[05:58]
BitHub	here i mean	[05:58]
BitHub	everyone is gunned up heh	[05:59]
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Chaang-Noi	we ever figure out why the nextwork wqas on fire?	[06:11]
Chaang-Noi	bfl avalon, asicminer or luck?	[06:11]
Chaang-Noi	and yeah, lots of guns and rottwilers here....	[06:12]
kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[06:12]
gribble	Current Blocks: 226490 \| Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 \| Next Difficulty In: 1317 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 14 minutes, and 4 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 6163571.41569 \| Estimated Percent Change: 27.14563	[06:12]
Chaang-Noi	good to have just in case :)	[06:12]
Chaang-Noi	27% jump, seems like we slowed down a bit	[06:12]
kakobrekla	slowed down?	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[06:13]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.56250, Best ask: 47.69095, Bid-ask spread: 0.12845, Last trade: 47.69098, 24 hour volume: 17248.04188473, 24 hour low: 46.81000, 24 hour high: 47.75000, 24 hour vwap: 47.47479	[06:13]
Chaang-Noi	it was a bit faster 12 hours ago	[06:13]
kakobrekla	ya well it goes up and down	[06:13]
Chaang-Noi	yeah, after 12 hours anyone figure out why? i had to sleep :/	[06:14]
kakobrekla	mostly up tho	[06:14]
Chaang-Noi	ahhhhhh coooffffeeeeee :D	[06:14]
dub	;;bc,nethash	[06:14]
gribble	47262.136161641218	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129354.msg1635878#msg1635878	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	i don't get this. is he a hoster that doesn't understand hosting ?	[06:15]
Chaang-Noi	we were at 54 th last night	[06:16]
Chaang-Noi	i hope it was not bfl...	[06:16]
Chaang-Noi	asicminer is down 1 th, hmmm	[06:16]
kakobrekla	what a losers	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	what do they specifically claim, 10th ?	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	asicminer i mean	[06:17]
dub	nothing	[06:18]
dub	they claim to have created 12th worth of chip	[06:18]
Chaang-Noi	no, we can see their account on btcguild it was 6.2 th last night, it is now 5.2	[06:18]
mircea_popescu	dub ya but iirc about six weeks after "delivery" they were hashing with 6th	[06:19]
Chaang-Noi	there is some guy on ozcoin with 3 th but we dont think it is asicminer, might be avalon "testing"	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	or 50% capacity.	[06:19]
dub	mircea_popescu: yes	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	never was explained, the whys. have they yet got it up to the promised 12 ?	[06:19]
Chaang-Noi	yeah asicminer has had some problems that were not explained	[06:19]
dub	they said 'power and cable problem'	[06:19]
dub	or cooling	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	ya well...	[06:19]
kakobrekla	i suspect 'premine' is the reason for avalon delays.. aritificial	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	fans, obviously	[06:19]
Chaang-Noi	yeah power problems so moved tonew place, cant get the right staff... stuff like that	[06:19]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla how do you mean ?	[06:20]
Chaang-Noi	they did say they want to be full up with the whole 60 th by the end of april	[06:20]
kakobrekla	well peeps reported 'a lot' of dust in the units	[06:20]
kakobrekla	meaning 'extensive testing'	[06:20]
Chaang-Noi	i would call that "testing"	[06:20]
Chaang-Noi	:)	[06:20]
kakobrekla	yeah the brackets are the problem.	[06:20]
mircea_popescu	oh	[06:20]
kakobrekla	they get 1500 usd back in a week	[06:21]
kakobrekla	or something	[06:21]
kakobrekla	and then sell for another 1500	[06:21]
kakobrekla	:)	[06:21]
Chaang-Noi	if they are short on company funds i think it would be hard not to "test" and get the money back.	[06:21]
dub	kakobrekla: probably only a little testing done outside in teh dirt	[06:22]
dub	im serious this is china, expect anything	[06:22]
dub	and alos nothing	[06:22]
kakobrekla	lol	[06:22]
kakobrekla	dunno why they dont sell modules only	[06:23]
kakobrekla	id stick one imah computah	[06:23]
dub	well in theory their model wins	[06:23]
dub	it just requires competence/honesty etc	[06:23]
dub	like you have fucking fabbed silicon, how do you fuck up supplying enough power and cooling to it	[06:24]
kakobrekla	im talkin bout avalon	[06:24]
dub	oh	[06:24]
kakobrekla	are they having these issues too?	[06:24]
dub	I think Jeff said his had some heat issues	[06:25]
mircea_popescu	dub basically the #1 problem with cowboy runs are the chip reliability.	[06:25]
mircea_popescu	that's pretty much my main concern. hash hours per chip.	[06:26]
mircea_popescu	across the board.	[06:26]
mircea_popescu	anyone can fab silicon. doing it in any sort of comercially useful way however...	[06:26]
kakobrekla	ima gonna try to get a fury board if it will be for sale	[06:26]
dub	fury was the sea of hashers pga crowd?	[06:27]
kakobrekla	ya	[06:27]
dub	are they busting out an asic too?	[06:27]
kakobrekla	ya	[06:27]
kakobrekla	he gave me the sea of hashers source yesterday	[06:27]
kakobrekla	i gave it to someone to jerk around with	[06:28]
kakobrekla	but i just sold my last fpga	[06:29]
Chaang-Noi	i think i would buy a box and buy an aircon unit and my avalon in it if i had one...	[06:29]
Chaang-Noi	keep that shit on ice	[06:29]
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Chaang-Noi	btc crawling up, good sign for the week?	[06:31]
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dub	or GFC 2.0	[06:35]
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Namworld	Does that looks nice at all to anyone? http://www.namworld.net/pf/bitvps.com/openvz-vps	[06:42]
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parseval	I like that, Namworld	[06:43]
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Namworld	It can always be better however. Feedback on any elements or the whole would be appreciated.	[06:44]
parseval	It's a little bit wide.. If I have my 1920x screen cut in half, I have to expand the browser window... it looks like there is room to make the list expansive rather than fixed, or with a narrower min-width	[06:46]
smickles	they look like little racks <3	[06:47]
tiberiusiv	whats amazing about the litecoin crowd is they do not understand that bitcoin asics also increase litecoin difficulty	[06:48]
Namworld	That's pretty much what they're intended to look like. Little racked servers.	[06:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @#64; 0.00071737 = 3.2282 BTC [+]	[06:49]
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parseval	Do you do colocation at all?	[06:49]
Namworld	No, we don't offer that.	[06:49]
parseval	It might be good to put the connection speed along with the bandwidth	[06:50]
Namworld	Well since it's VPSes the cables are kind of shared so... there's no definite guaranteed speed.	[06:52]
Namworld	Might vary depending on the server size too.	[06:52]
Namworld	All depends on the machine the VPS is on and others.	[06:52]
parseval	Okay	[06:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @#64; 0.00070573 = 8.5393 BTC [-]	[06:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12211 @#64; 0.00070201 = 8.5722 BTC [-]	[06:54]
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Diablo-D3	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_t39jCXXIrY	[07:02]
Diablo-D3	man	[07:02]
Diablo-D3	this video is lol	[07:02]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/happy-first-birthday-mpex/	[07:07]
mircea_popescu	lalala	[07:07]
Chaang-Noi	do we get cake?	[07:11]
mircea_popescu	i do	[07:12]
Namworld	Seems like he really caught the Bitcoin bug	[07:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 2 @#64; 2.5 = 5 BTC	[07:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 8 @#64; 2.5 = 20 BTC	[07:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 3 @#64; 2.5 = 7.5 BTC	[07:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 4 @#64; 2.5 = 10 BTC	[07:16]
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Diablo-D3	Namworld: yeah really	[07:17]
Diablo-D3	I mean	[07:17]
Diablo-D3	didnt he show up to that one bitcoin convention?	[07:17]
Diablo-D3	the one in london?	[07:17]
Namworld	Not sure.	[07:18]
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Namworld	Look. A bucket shop.	[07:22]
the-bucket-shop	wassup?	[07:23]
Namworld	Eheh, not by much apparently.	[07:25]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 155 @#64; 0.00499 = 0.7735 BTC [+]	[07:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.874695 BTC [-]	[07:27]
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smickles	lol, mircea_popescu how is 101401.7833687 a 'nice round number'?	[07:36]
Namworld	Not sure I'm following you but anyway	[07:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @#64; 0.00068138 = 4.7356 BTC [-]	[07:37]
Namworld	@#64;Usagi	[07:37]
mircea_popescu	smickles sh :p	[07:43]
Diablo-D3	so	[07:45]
Diablo-D3	I think what I'm going to do is this	[07:45]
Diablo-D3	issue $100m worth of bonds	[07:45]
mircea_popescu	go to jail	[07:46]
mircea_popescu	???	[07:46]
mircea_popescu	profit.	[07:46]
Diablo-D3	no	[07:46]
Diablo-D3	and basically bankrupt verizon by eating their lunch	[07:46]
Namworld	Well, I'm off, night everyone.	[07:47]
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kakobrekla	you know its bad when you see ppl in merrica go to sleep.	[07:48]
smickles	lol	[07:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.821501 BTC [-]	[07:51]
smickles	OMFG, threading is awesome!	[07:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @#64; 2 BTC [+]	[07:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.87193 BTC [+]	[07:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @#64; 0.54 BTC [-]	[07:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @#64; 0.535 = 1.07 BTC [-]	[07:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @#64; 0.5130002 BTC [-]	[08:02]
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Diablo-D3	smickles: I am going to beat you like a drum	[08:09]
Diablo-D3	async messaging > threading	[08:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @#64; 0.8215 = 12.3225 BTC [-]	[08:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.82 BTC [-]	[08:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.81 BTC [-]	[08:10]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @#64; 0.1978 = 0.3956 BTC [+]	[08:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @#64; 0.1979 = 0.3958 BTC [+]	[08:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @#64; 0.198 = 2.97 BTC [+]	[08:16]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @#64; 0.199999 = 0.6 BTC [+]	[08:17]
mircea_popescu	@#64;SarahKSilverman My heart breaks for people who don't know the relief & joy of being wrong & saying sorry	[08:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @#64; 0.48993 BTC [+]	[08:18]
mircea_popescu	@#64;Mircea_Popescu @#64;SarahKSilverman Too old to have your heart broken for the proper reasons ?	[08:18]
midnightmagic	making friends still I see	[08:25]
*	smickles has no idea about async messaging	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	ever read swift ?	[08:28]
smickles	i read taylor swift all the time	[08:29]
smickles	she's brilliant	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	lol	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	johnatan	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	i don't read these new things	[08:29]
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smickles	soebot is back :D	[08:40]
mircea_popescu	$email	[08:43]
mpexbot	mircea_popescu: No new messages received.	[08:43]
smickles	$markov	[08:44]
mpexbot	indeed. far away in the stroller, comes back with 3 strollers and a motorbike	[08:44]
smickles	o_0	[08:44]
mircea_popescu	lol	[08:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @#64; 0.00068708 = 11.5429 BTC [+]	[08:51]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @#64; 0.00069629 = 7.1718 BTC [+]	[08:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @#64; 0.800075 = 3.2003 BTC [-]	[09:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @#64; 0.8 = 8 BTC [-]	[09:04]
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midnightmagic	$doom	[09:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 10 @#64; 0.2 = 2 BTC [+]	[09:07]
midnightmagic	boo	[09:07]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @#64; 0.00069629 = 1.3926 BTC [+]	[09:08]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @#64; 0.00069728 = 6.3801 BTC [+]	[09:08]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @#64; 2.5 BTC	[09:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 6 @#64; 0.48994 = 2.9396 BTC [+]	[09:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9947 @#64; 0.00069178 = 6.8811 BTC [-]	[09:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @#64; 0.00068138 = 2.0782 BTC [-]	[09:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4112 @#64; 0.00067896 = 2.7919 BTC [-]	[09:31]
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dub	$moo	[09:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @#64; 0.00069001 = 3.243 BTC [+]	[10:02]
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Olive6767	Hi All :)	[10:09]
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TradeFortress	options on btct.co!	[10:22]
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smickles	< dub> $moo << do that again	[10:23]
dub	$moo	[10:30]
mpexbot	dub: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here	[10:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @#64; 0.00069001 = 15.7667 BTC [+]	[10:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8150 @#64; 0.00068212 = 5.5593 BTC [-]	[10:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @#64; 0.0006814 = 9.267 BTC [-]	[10:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5588 @#64; 0.00067896 = 3.794 BTC [-]	[10:54]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @#64; 0.792125 = 7.9213 BTC [-]	[11:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @#64; 0.792 = 7.92 BTC [-]	[11:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @#64; 0.00067637 = 3.6862 BTC [-]	[11:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.791 BTC [-]	[11:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.791 BTC [-]	[11:08]
Chaang-Noi	sell off :.	[11:09]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @#64; 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [-]	[11:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 80 @#64; 0.105 = 8.4 BTC [-]	[11:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @#64; 0.00067637 = 1.695 BTC [-]	[11:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5415 @#64; 0.00067587 = 3.6598 BTC [-]	[11:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7576 @#64; 0.00067334 = 5.1012 BTC [-]	[11:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4653 @#64; 0.00066743 = 3.1056 BTC [-]	[11:38]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 16 @#64; 0.105 = 1.68 BTC [-]	[11:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.849999 BTC [+]	[12:00]
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MJR_	hey guys	[12:13]
MJR_	OIX is down a bit huh?	[12:14]
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Enky	kako	[12:27]
Enky	wake up	[12:27]
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ThickAsThieves	;;bc,stats	[12:50]
gribble	Current Blocks: 226538 \| Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 \| Next Difficulty In: 1269 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 10 hours, 35 minutes, and 56 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 6138999.72395 \| Estimated Percent Change: 26.63875	[12:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @#64; 0.0006681 = 11.4579 BTC [+]	[12:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1370 @#64; 0.000708 = 0.97 BTC [-]	[13:02]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7038 @#64; 0.0006681 = 4.7021 BTC [+]	[13:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2662 @#64; 0.00066743 = 1.7767 BTC [-]	[13:07]
Chaang-Noi	http://istheblockchainforked.com/ lulz	[13:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @#64; 0.00067599 = 2.704 BTC [+]	[13:15]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3437 @#64; 0.00067599 = 2.3234 BTC [+]	[13:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16712 @#64; 0.00067679 = 11.3105 BTC [+]	[13:27]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @#64; 0.00069048 = 7.5262 BTC [+]	[13:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @#64; 0.00069112 = 9.6066 BTC [+]	[13:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10451 @#64; 0.00068713 = 7.1812 BTC [-]	[13:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13608 @#64; 0.00068243 = 9.2865 BTC [-]	[13:59]
vampireb	!ticker mpex s.dice	[14:10]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00444444 / 0.00474956 / 0.0051 (602 shares, 2.86 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00516205 / 0.00599987 (72521 shares, 374.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.00610218 / 0.0069 (2302441 shares, 14,049.93 BTC)	[14:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12962 @#64; 0.00069112 = 8.9583 BTC [+]	[14:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2938 @#64; 0.00069593 = 2.0446 BTC [+]	[14:10]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 2 @#64; 0.00172 = 0.0034 BTC [-]	[14:24]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5012 @#64; 0.00069593 = 3.488 BTC [+]	[14:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3488 @#64; 0.00069728 = 2.4321 BTC [+]	[14:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3392 @#64; 0.00068243 = 2.3148 BTC [-]	[14:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1074 @#64; 0.00068028 = 0.7306 BTC [-]	[14:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [COG.F] 1 @#64; 2.5 BTC	[15:26]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @#64; 0.56 BTC [+]	[15:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @#64; 0.849999 = 1.7 BTC [+]	[15:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @#64; 2 BTC [+]	[15:52]
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imsaguy	mircea_popescu	[15:52]
pigeons	is a	[15:52]
imsaguy	mircea_popescu, I has been quoted. I want my royalties.	[15:52]
pigeons	link	[15:55]
imsaguy	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-ddosed-an-epic/	[15:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @#64; 0.01028 BTC [-]	[15:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @#64; 0.01027 BTC [-]	[15:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @#64; 0.01 = 0.06 BTC [-]	[15:57]
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jurov	imsaguy, what do you want? free mpex acct? i guess mp's offer doesn't extend so far	[15:59]
jurov	you'll have to choose from the 5 or so options i PM'd you anyway, no need to make a fuss around it	[16:00]
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imsaguy	who's making a fuss?	[16:04]
jurov	TFA clearly says i'm collecting the claims.	[16:05]
jcpham	imsaguy you can have my free account	[16:05]
jurov	and i'm still waiting for you to choose	[16:05]
jcpham	mircea_popescu totaly promised me a free mpex account	[16:05]
jcpham	don't let him weasel out either	[16:05]
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imsaguy	I'm sorry, I missed the PPS	[16:05]
pigeons	he gave me a free one, cause no one would take them at the time	[16:06]
imsaguy	you've have to forgive my missing that one line at the very end of the frakking article	[16:06]
imsaguy	s/you've/you/	[16:06]
imsaguy	I didn't mean to step on your toes	[16:06]
jcpham	too many hookers and blow this weekend	[16:07]
jcpham	i'm not even hearing your words	[16:07]
jurov	np :)	[16:07]
imsaguy	its fine	[16:07]
jcpham	;;calc 25*[ticker --last]	[16:07]
gribble	1188.00075	[16:07]
jcpham	http://i.imgur.com/sQXyefn.jpg	[16:08]
jcpham	from my cold, dead hands	[16:08]
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*	jurov is disappointed, started to have some drama expectations	[16:08]
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*	abracadabra loads up the .50BMG and takes aim at jcpham's left temple	[16:10]
jurov	;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:db7c48cd4027f8901d2642cd24ccf4cb2ebff53183c88985f1a6c1f0	[16:10]
gribble	You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7	[16:10]
jcpham	you can't afford that ammo	[16:10]
jcpham	quit lying	[16:10]
abracadabra	heh	[16:11]
abracadabra	cost me less than 25BTC	[16:11]
abracadabra	:p	[16:11]
jcpham	damn	[16:11]
jcpham	got me there.	[16:11]
jcpham	you've got less than 6 hours	[16:11]
jurov	;;ident imsaguy	[16:11]
gribble	Nick 'imsaguy', with hostmask 'imsaguy!~imsaguy@#64;unaffiliated/imsaguy', is not identified.	[16:11]
jcpham	then i'm on the move	[16:11]
imsaguy	;;tell jurov gpg info imsaguy	[16:11]
imsaguy	that gives you all the info you need :p	[16:12]
jcpham	can't ident	[16:12]
jcpham	imposter	[16:12]
imsaguy	more like I dont have my gpg keys on all of my machines	[16:12]
jcpham	whatever shill	[16:12]
abracadabra	IMPOSTER!	[16:13]
jcpham	shell->shell->shell->shell->shell->reverse tunnel->shell->port knock->auth	[16:13]
jcpham	like	[16:13]
jcpham	is easy	[16:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @#64; 0.33318 BTC [-]	[16:15]
pigeons	i have a service that retreives everify and sends me the decrypted string in the udp header of a fake netbios packet	[16:15]
pigeons	so i dont have to log into the machine with the key	[16:15]
jcpham	nice pigeons	[16:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 65 @#64; 0.00499 = 0.3244 BTC [+]	[16:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @#64; 0.105 BTC [-]	[16:31]
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coco89[a]	so i found out there's a #googleglass channel	[16:34]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 2 @#64; 0.00821 = 0.0164 BTC [-]	[16:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @#64; 0.26 BTC [+]	[16:37]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 20 @#64; 0.00508 = 0.1016 BTC [+]	[16:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 91 @#64; 0.00509 = 0.4632 BTC [+]	[16:44]
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Chaang-Noi	what is this about hookers and blow? :)	[16:52]
imsaguy	go back to your rice	[16:53]
imsaguy	no necro bumping	[16:53]
Chaang-Noi	no necro here :)	[16:53]
kakobrekla	;;bc,stats	[17:02]
gribble	Current Blocks: 226571 \| Current Difficulty: 4847647.152065606 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 227807 \| Next Difficulty In: 1236 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 55 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 6167651.23612 \| Estimated Percent Change: 27.22979	[17:02]
Chaang-Noi	still 27%	[17:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @#64; 0.0006819 = 7.0577 BTC [+]	[17:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8250 @#64; 0.00068526 = 5.6534 BTC [+]	[17:19]
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jurov	;;gpg info "[//]"	[17:35]
gribble	No such user registered.	[17:35]
pigeons	;;ident [//]	[17:35]
gribble	Error: "//" is not a valid command.	[17:35]
jurov	;;ident "[//]"	[17:35]
gribble	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.	[17:35]
jurov	how one verifies users with such douchy nicks?	[17:36]
pigeons	i'll post bond that it's really imsaguy	[17:36]
jurov	i know	[17:36]
jurov	ick ";rm -rf /	[17:36]
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pigeons	;;ident "/[////]"	[17:37]
gribble	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.	[17:37]
jurov	lol	[17:37]
jurov	ick "";rm -rf /"	[17:37]
jurov	i cant even set something like that for myself	[17:37]
pigeons	not douchey enough	[17:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @#64; 0.00069502 = 3.1623 BTC [+]	[17:37]
jurov	;;ident [//////]	[17:38]
gribble	Error: "//////" is not a valid command.	[17:38]
jurov	;;ident "[//////]"	[17:38]
gribble	Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.	[17:38]
imsaguy	lol	[17:47]
[//]	;;ident	[17:47]
gribble	You are identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM	[17:47]
[//]	how's that?	[17:47]
[//]	for the record, its:	[17:48]
[//]	;;ident "[//////]"	[17:48]
gribble	Nick '[//]', with hostmask '[//]!~imsaguy@#64;unaffiliated/imsaguy', is identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM	[17:48]
[//]	today's teaching moment has been brought to you by tripleslash	[17:48]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3100 @#64; 0.0006819 = 2.1139 BTC [-]	[17:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @#64; 0.00068093 = 3.677 BTC [-]	[17:57]
benkay	i'm working out the offices of a startup in mountain view	[18:00]
benkay	and the small scale of their vision coupled with the huge scale of their burn rate is stunning	[18:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2200 @#64; 0.0051 = 11.22 BTC [+]	[18:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @#64; 0.5132 = 2.0528 BTC [-]	[18:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @#64; 0.5131 = 1.0262 BTC [-]	[18:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @#64; 0.5130001 = 2.052 BTC [-]	[18:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 12 @#64; 0.513 = 6.156 BTC [-]	[18:01]
kakobrekla	benkay?	[18:04]
benkay	yes.	[18:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7402 @#64; 0.00068745 = 5.0885 BTC [+]	[18:08]
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smickles	$vwap ^oix	[18:11]
mpexbot	smickles: 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 40.34616177 high: 57.75068238 low: 37.78983401 volume: 35630 btc: 4870.67581779 30 day: no data	[18:11]
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smickles	"Your BitPay Merchant Account is approved! " < a day late, and 1% short	[18:16]
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jurov	https://www.tradehill.com/ isn't it bootstrap, too?	[18:20]
imsaguy	tradehill still exists?	[18:21]
imsaguy	and you'd use it?	[18:21]
jurov	no, just looking... apparently they just relaunched	[18:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 10 @#64; 0.011 = 0.11 BTC [-]	[18:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P430T] 8 @#64; 0.0885639 = 0.7085 BTC [+]	[18:26]
jcpham	http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/18/embattled-bitcoin-exchange-tradehill-is-back/	[18:30]
smickles	;;calc 43/1.0885639	[18:33]
gribble	39.5015855293	[18:33]
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jurov	lmao slovak PM today uncovered a wall sculpture of Janosik - a national hero akin to Robin Hood	[18:36]
jurov	and said "he was first social democrat"	[18:36]
jurov	he has this sculpture in his very office	[18:36]
smickles	ha	[18:38]
jurov	Janosik was hanged 300 years ago... while I don't wish the same to Robert Fico (our PM)... but he really deserves it	[18:38]
kakobrekla	lol tradehill	[18:39]
kakobrekla	those guys should GTFO	[18:39]
kakobrekla	fuckin lamers	[18:39]
pizzaman1337	;;goxlag	[18:42]
gribble	18.125554 seconds	[18:42]
pizzaman1337	kakobrekla: ^ :)	[18:42]
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smickles	;;ticker	[18:46]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.55000, Best ask: 47.77999, Bid-ask spread: 0.22999, Last trade: 47.77999, 24 hour volume: 18298.11032076, 24 hour low: 47.07679, 24 hour high: 47.80000, 24 hour vwap: 47.54930	[18:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6627 @#64; 0.00069196 = 4.5856 BTC [+]	[18:51]
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vampireb	!ticker mpex s.dice	[18:53]
assbot	[MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.004501 / 0.00502512 / 0.0051 (2800 shares, 14.07 BTC), 7D: 0.00444444 / 0.00516022 / 0.00599987 (74721 shares, 385.58 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0061008 / 0.0069 (2302191 shares, 14,045.22 BTC)	[18:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @#64; 0.25 = 1 BTC [-]	[18:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @#64; 0.24 BTC [-]	[18:56]
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mod6	;;ticker	[19:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 47.54225, Best ask: 47.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.25775, Last trade: 47.80000, 24 hour volume: 18802.01731684, 24 hour low: 47.07679, 24 hour high: 47.80000, 24 hour vwap: 47.55388	[19:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @#64; 0.849999 BTC [+]	[19:35]
smickles	wow, soebot is a lot faster now	[19:43]
smickles	a little bit of refactoring goes a long way	[19:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 2 @#64; 0.00801 = 0.016 BTC [-]	[19:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @#64; 0.008 = 0.024 BTC [-]	[19:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @#64; 0.0065 = 0.0195 BTC [-]	[19:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 20 @#64; 0.00601 = 0.1202 BTC [-]	[19:45]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4521 @#64; 0.00069196 = 3.1284 BTC [+]	[19:57]
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pigeons	interesting... suprised i didn't hear bout tradehill being back	[20:05]
pigeons	wtf	[20:05]
pigeons	The new site goes live today with a new business-focused product dubbed “Prime.”	[20:06]
Diablo-D3	heh	[20:06]
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Diablo-D3	I saw that in my rss feed like two days ago	[20:06]
pigeons	like the least interesting, least profitable thing you can do with bitcoins is trade them for dollars	[20:07]
Diablo-D3	yeah, especially since the USD is crashing	[20:07]
Diablo-D3	bitcoin is the new gold	[20:08]
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pigeons	"Please email us at claim@#64;tradehill.com and I will put you in touch with the person doing payouts for the old company. Nearly all of the funds have already been claimed, and we would like to make you whole today if possible."	[20:09]
[//]	They must have gotten a new round of angel funds	[20:09]
[//]	nothing like continuing the bleed.	[20:09]
smickles	it's the same people?	[20:09]
kakobrekla	imma gonna stab someone in teh face	[20:09]
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