Forum logs for 18 Jan 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-otc | [12:43] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || Bot's control sequence is ';;'. || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe | [12:43] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Mon Dec 19 23:38:55 2011 | [12:43] |
* | osmosis has quit (Quit: Leaving) | [12:45] |
* | osmosis (~osmosis@c-67-171-179-254.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [12:45] |
Hunterbunter | looks like another fire sale | [12:46] |
Hunterbunter | 5.6, dropping...will those supports vanish? | [12:46] |
* | osmosis has quit (Client Quit) | [12:46] |
* | Turingi (~devon@unaffiliated/devon-hillard/x-7250961) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [12:46] |
* | osmosis (~osmosis@c-67-171-179-254.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [12:46] |
* | osmosis has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [12:46] |
* | osmosis (~osmosis@c-67-171-179-254.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [12:47] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | sure as everyone wants to buy in cheaper | [12:47] |
BTCHero | I do... | [12:47] |
BTCHero | I will probably get a moneypak today and hope it hasn't gone up in 12 hours | [12:48] |
* | devrandom (~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [12:48] |
BTCHero | I need to get this chargeback over with so I am not scared that my paypal will flag someone here that trades with me | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | is that 80k like record volume ? | [12:50] |
* | bobd0bb (bobd0bb@adsl-99-106-243-29.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | iirc its the largest so far. | [12:50] |
Hunterbunter | what do you guys use to monitor live pricing? I'm using mtgox live, but it's so...flakey | [12:51] |
Hunterbunter | clarkmoody any good? | [12:51] |
OneFixt | i'm thinking buying opportunity at 5.6 with a target of 7 | [12:51] |
OneFixt | clarkmoody is pretty good, but has been acting up a bit lately | [12:52] |
Hunterbunter | depends on how many people get caught up in this (bull?) trap | [12:53] |
OneFixt | i actually think it's a bear trap | [12:53] |
OneFixt | but of course this remains to be seen | [12:53] |
phantomcircuit | https://bitcoinconsultancy.com/~phantomcircuit/mtgox/depth.html | [12:54] |
Hunterbunter | yeah that was my inkling too, but I'm not sure I undersatnd the terms properly | [12:54] |
Hunterbunter | interesting link...tahnks for that | [12:54] |
OneFixt | bear trap means that people are fooled into selling and then the price goes up | [12:54] |
Hunterbunter | ah...yes thats what I meant | [12:55] |
OneFixt | so i suppose a bear trap is bullish =) | [12:55] |
Hunterbunter | bear trap then...if people are fooled by this, which i honestly don't think that many will be, that sounds like a good bet | [12:56] |
* | zhoutong is now known as zhoutong|away | [12:56] |
Hunterbunter | the earlier one may have been the result of all the bitcoinica leveraging...and I'm pretty sure sentimentality is still bullish | [12:57] |
OneFixt | yes, bitcoinica is definitely responsible for much of it | [12:57] |
Hunterbunter | I wonder why that person's put those supports in...suppose doesn't want to unnecessarily risk what they have? | [12:57] |
OneFixt | could either a) hope to buy a lot b) try to push price up c) try to get others to build up bids and then he'll sell into them | [12:58] |
OneFixt | so we don't really know | [12:58] |
Hunterbunter | Yeah I suppose thats what makes it the market | [12:58] |
OneFixt | that's what makes it so interesting | [12:58] |
Hunterbunter | making decisions on what you think other people are going to do :) | [12:58] |
OneFixt | yep =) | [12:58] |
Hunterbunter | so if people are generally holding | [12:59] |
Hunterbunter | and sentiment is bullish | [13:00] |
* | noagendamarket has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | [13:00] |
Hunterbunter | I think you're dead on onefixt | [13:00] |
Hunterbunter | well, maybe :) | [13:00] |
Hunterbunter | but I like the way you think | [13:00] |
OneFixt | thanks ;) | [13:00] |
OneFixt | we should also see some new funds hit as a result of that tv episode | [13:01] |
MBS | lol | [13:01] |
Hunterbunter | yeah, that always takes a few days...I personally think it all fits together in one big speculative story quite well | [13:01] |
MBS | some dude on another irc server was just lecturing about how irresponsable i am for using forex leverage | [13:01] |
OneFixt | lol | [13:02] |
MBS | "you're playing a game that's far above you. And you don't fully realize the actual risk you're taking." | [13:02] |
* | abracadabra has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [13:02] |
MBS | " that's how countless people lose money and sometimes even get ruined with these tools which they shouldn't touch in the first place." | [13:02] |
MBS | yeah, get ruined from the $50 in account, lol | [13:02] |
OneFixt | he's right, of course, but it all depends on your circumstances | [13:02] |
OneFixt | yeah, not from 50 | [13:02] |
area | I wonder if bitscalper will show larger interest today | [13:03] |
MBS | i mean i guess he somehow things a shady european forex broker whose trades probably dont even leave their servers is going to hunt me down when their instant trades fail to liquidate my positions in time | [13:04] |
OneFixt | that could be true if you had 1000 times the account size | [13:04] |
OneFixt | make that 10000 | [13:04] |
MBS | yeah i wouldnt be doing forex in that case | [13:05] |
benjamindees | I'm sure he's just talking about people who are compulsive gamblers | [13:05] |
* | agricocb (~agricolc@unaffiliated/agricocb) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:05] |
* | nelisky has quit (Quit: nelisky) | [13:08] |
* | abracadab (~Abracadab@c-24-13-194-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:09] |
* | abracadab has quit (Changing host) | [13:09] |
* | abracadab (~Abracadab@unaffiliated/abracadab) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:09] |
mircea_popescu | so wikipedia has added a js overlay and thinks it is "unavailable" | [13:09] |
mircea_popescu | i am so sick of the internet of the masses. | [13:09] |
MBS | lol | [13:10] |
vragnaroda | mircea_popescu: The blackout is bypassable *by design*. | [13:10] |
mircea_popescu | yaya | [13:10] |
MBS | most people that know how to disable it already know about SOPA anyway | [13:10] |
MBS | so works out | [13:10] |
vragnaroda | They explicitly said they weren't going to make it impossible. | [13:10] |
* | yossarian_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [13:10] |
mircea_popescu | so basically they took a measure that doesn't work to fight a measure that won't work. | [13:10] |
mircea_popescu | i SERIOUSLY am sick of the internet of the masses. | [13:10] |
vragnaroda | It does work. | [13:10] |
vragnaroda | It does exactly what they said they were going to do. | [13:11] |
mircea_popescu | sigh. | [13:11] |
* | benjamindees starts a BBS | [13:11] |
* | hexTech (~hexTech@gateway/tor-sasl/hextech) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:13] |
* | BillGalaxy (550df692@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.13.246.146) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:14] |
* | BillGalaxy has quit (Client Quit) | [13:15] |
Hunterbunter | asks are drying up...time for counterswing! | [13:16] |
Hunterbunter | although this is all pretty minor stuff compared to what else went on today | [13:16] |
Hunterbunter | so I've been hearing a lot of people talk about bots...how do they work, exactly? basically a program that reads an API from gox (or w/e) and buys/sells based on algorithm? | [13:19] |
benjamindees | yes | [13:19] |
Hunterbunter | is it an o/s independent thing? | [13:20] |
* | nelisky (~nelisky@unaffiliated/nelisky-/x-0749711) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:20] |
benjamindees | yes | [13:20] |
Hunterbunter | cool k, thanks | [13:21] |
benjamindees | I mean, for Bitcoin it is | [13:21] |
benjamindees | since there is enough volatility that OS doesn't matter | [13:21] |
Hunterbunter | have you written one before? | [13:21] |
benjamindees | no, I've written some scripts that help me trade | [13:21] |
benjamindees | but I'm familiar with the ones used elsewhere | [13:22] |
Hunterbunter | cool, do you know if there's info on the APIs somewhere? | [13:23] |
* | loca (54865846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.134.88.70) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:23] |
Hunterbunter | I'm curious to see if I could write one, but I have nfi wehre to start (I'm a c++ programmer, but nothing to do with web programming so far) | [13:23] |
benjamindees | https://www.tradehill.com/Support/TradingAPI/ | [13:23] |
Hunterbunter | cool tahnks for link | [13:23] |
Hunterbunter | oh nice so tehres' basically an API for everything you can do...buy/sell whatever | [13:24] |
OneFixt | https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MtGox/API | [13:26] |
* | jscinoz has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [13:26] |
* | roman3x (~roman3x@bband-dyn66.95-103-251.t-com.sk) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:26] |
* | yossarian_ (~john@static.38.107.40.188.clients.your-server.de) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:26] |
Hunterbunter | oo php, ringing some dusty bells | [13:26] |
* | nelisky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [13:28] |
* | loca has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [13:28] |
* | bill_stickers has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) | [13:30] |
* | gerry11 (~gerry@cpc6-grnk6-2-0-cust120.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:38] |
gerry11 | hi im looking to buy bitcoins now using moneybookers, ukash, paysafecard or paypal looking for a decent rate | [13:38] |
* | pierreghz (~pierre@214.189-66-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:39] |
gerry11 | anyone here able to point me in a direction? | [13:42] |
* | loca (54865846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.134.88.70) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:42] |
* | gerry11 (~gerry@cpc6-grnk6-2-0-cust120.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has left #bitcoin-otc | [13:43] |
Mqrius | gerry11: No one sells bitcoin for paypal, because of chargeback scamming. Be careful with moneybookers, they closed my account randomly, and I had to jump through hoops to get the money that was in there back | [13:44] |
Mqrius | Oh he's gone | [13:44] |
Mqrius | derp. | [13:44] |
* | shak__ (~shak@ADijon-652-1-259-229.w109-217.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:48] |
* | shak_ has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | [13:49] |
* | gerry11 (~gerry@cpc6-grnk6-2-0-cust120.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:50] |
* | slothbag has quit (Quit: Hard work pays off in the future, laziness pays off now) | [13:50] |
BTCHero | someone should sell zhou some coins | [13:50] |
Mqrius | Actually he's out of USD, so that's not gonna happen | [13:51] |
BTCHero | oh | [13:54] |
BTCHero | then someone buy some bitcoins from him | [13:54] |
BTCHero | whatever needs to happen | [13:54] |
Mqrius | Someone should give him both bitcoins and usd in large amounts, on loan. | [13:55] |
Mqrius | Or, you know, invest or whatever you want to call it | [13:55] |
benjamindees | or he needs to just liquidate some positions and reduce the leverage | [13:56] |
* | blognewb has quit (Quit: Ping Timeout) | [13:56] |
Mqrius | Reduce the leverage for everyone then. As in, 5:1 being max | [13:57] |
* | rdonohoe (b03d3d79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.61.61.121) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [13:57] |
Mqrius | But random liquidation won't do much good | [13:57] |
benjamindees | yes, for everyone, that's what I meant | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | the loan won't work. | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | it will just create a larger prroblem down the road. | [13:58] |
benjamindees | right | [13:58] |
Mqrius | mircea_popescu: Permanent investment, for a part of the profit | [13:59] |
benjamindees | in fact reducing the leverage won't even work indefinitely | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | everybody should just stick to trading options and understanding that flashy is not equal to functional. | [13:59] |
Mqrius | He needs liquidity, and he doesn't have it. | [13:59] |
mircea_popescu | he doesn't have a business model. | [14:00] |
benjamindees | well... why do you say that? | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | because he underscribes risk he can not actually handle. | [14:00] |
benjamindees | surely he's making a profit | [14:00] |
mircea_popescu | business model != making a profit. | [14:01] |
benjamindees | every business underscribes risk it cannot handle | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | business model = making a profit when all contingencies are accounted for. | [14:01] |
mircea_popescu | mno. | [14:01] |
benjamindees | pfft... impossible | [14:01] |
* | gerry11 (~gerry@cpc6-grnk6-2-0-cust120.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has left #bitcoin-otc | [14:01] |
benjamindees | I see no difference between bitcoinica and, for instance, mf global... | [14:03] |
vragnaroda | haha, everyone else on my block lost power for about 6 hours last night | [14:03] |
vragnaroda | (Fucking wind.) | [14:04] |
mircea_popescu | the difference'd be that mf global actually had leverage higher than what it offered. | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | if i can spend three dollars for each dollar i have then i can offer you a deal whereby you get 2:1 leverage. | [14:05] |
benjamindees | until your creditors slash your lines and suddenly you can't... | [14:05] |
* | dserrano5 has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | it was mismanagement, not creditors suddenly slashign lines that sunk mf. | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | obviously any business goes down if mismanaged enough. | [14:06] |
mircea_popescu | but mismanagement is going away from the business model. | [14:06] |
benjamindees | sounds like an unaccounted-for contingency... | [14:07] |
mircea_popescu | it's one thing to say "hi, i am selling people's furniture so i am turning a profit" | [14:07] |
mircea_popescu | and quite another to say "here's a business, it will work unless you set it on fire, in which case it won't". | [14:08] |
mircea_popescu | in the first you're not accounting for the fact that no, if the furniture owners knew about you selling their furniture youwould turn no profit. | [14:08] |
benjamindees | mm-hmm... | [14:09] |
mircea_popescu | and this isn't even considering the problems of leverage in a nonleverageable currency. | [14:10] |
benjamindees | or a nonleverageable planet even | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | basically it's a case of trying to fly a hellicopter though water on the account of the observation that water and air are both fluis. | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | fluids* | [14:10] |
benjamindees | your "information" argument is not convincing. information disparity is required to produce profit. | [14:12] |
benjamindees | in every business | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | it wasn't "information", it was ownership. the furniture thief is not in a business. | [14:12] |
benjamindees | and I don't think anything Bitcoinica does qualifies as theft | [14:12] |
mircea_popescu | does he sell you something he does not have ? (ie, leverage) | [14:12] |
benjamindees | it's impossible for him to have infinite leverage | [14:13] |
benjamindees | he could be selling unicorns for that matter | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | i did not say infinte. | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | it's impossible for him to have any. | [14:13] |
benjamindees | no, it is possible to have some, based on his own capital and the combined capital of participants | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | the leverage of the "combined capital of the participants" is a contingency | [14:14] |
benjamindees | your ISP doesn't have all the bandwidth they sell either... | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | it may mean positive OR negative leverage. | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | and his own capital does not give him leverage, in bitcoins. it does if you're mfglobal dealing with fiat currency. but in bitcoins capital just gives you capital. | [14:14] |
* | Underyx (~Underyx@catv-89-134-56-168.catv.broadband.hu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | and i don't deal with isp-s that sell what they don't have. | [14:15] |
benjamindees | and it is not possible to guard against the contingency of everyone taking the same trade at the same time while still making a profit | [14:15] |
mircea_popescu | yes, actually it is. | [14:15] |
benjamindees | great, do it. | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | apple is doing it, for instance. | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | they are guarding against the contingency of everyone buying an ipad. | [14:16] |
benjamindees | apple is selling leveraged trading? | [14:16] |
benjamindees | not all at once they aren't | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | my point was exactly that, in some markets you can't sell leverage, cause there's none to sell. | [14:17] |
benjamindees | you can't guarantee leverage in *any* market | [14:17] |
benjamindees | that's the only relevant point | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | why surely you can, in a fiat currency you can guarantee leverage | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | based on a guarantee of the fiator. | [14:18] |
benjamindees | just like your ISP can't guarantee bandwidth | [14:18] |
benjamindees | yeah, until you start printing trillion-dollar bills and your currency collapses... | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | hey. | [14:19] |
benjamindees | great "guarantee" | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | you are still offering the leverage. | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | we need to discuss like things, otherwise it all collapses into a grand philosophical debate of the nature of qualia. | [14:19] |
* | Metabank has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [14:19] |
benjamindees | like things would be commodities brokers (like mf global) that clearly can't sustain infinite leverage | [14:20] |
mircea_popescu | infinite leverage was never a point of discussion. | [14:20] |
* | dserrano5 (~9dsd9s9da@95.61.119.171) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:20] |
* | dwon (~dwon@75-119-251-37.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:20] |
benjamindees | why not? | [14:21] |
benjamindees | seems like a possible contingency to me | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | lol ok. perhaps we continue this some other time. | [14:21] |
benjamindees | the universe is infinite... the customer base can grow... the trade can go one way for the rest of time for all we know... | [14:21] |
* | gigavps_ (~jamesgibs@219.94.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:21] |
* | Silly has quit (Excess Flood) | [14:22] |
* | dsg (~david@gozer.dsg.to) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:24] |
* | dsg has quit (Changing host) | [14:24] |
* | dsg (~david@unaffiliated/dsg) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:24] |
* | Silly (~blizgerg@cpe-72-179-51-235.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:25] |
* | slush has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | [14:29] |
* | slush (~marekp@unaffiliated/slush) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:31] |
* | ChanServ gives voice to slush | [14:31] |
rg | are you guys happy clarkmooody is back | [14:34] |
vragnaroda | I'm happy I'm the only one on my block that didn't lose power last night. | [14:34] |
Mqrius | "Liquidcoin"? I see no innovation. "First of all, this coin is in no way aiming to replace bitcoin. It was designed for speculation only." Speculation is the new name for pump'n'dump? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60026.msg0;topicseen#new | [14:35] |
Mqrius | Someone get the alt-chain-Fuhrer. | [14:35] |
rg | vragnaroda: cheers | [14:37] |
rg | btw vrag, are you sure youre getting the required 8 hours of sleep a night | [14:37] |
vragnaroda | I'm certain I'm not. | [14:37] |
vragnaroda | I'm also certain it's not required. | [14:37] |
rg | weird that clarkmoody got suspended for CPU usage | [14:37] |
rg | his site uses nearly nothing | [14:37] |
* | nelisky (~nelisky@unaffiliated/nelisky-/x-0749711) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:38] |
rg | mtgoxlive looks like ... | [14:39] |
rg | shit | [14:39] |
vragnaroda | I am going to go on another IRC vacation starting in a day or two, which'll probably last a few weeks again, though. | [14:39] |
gigavps_ | rg wait till the US wakes up and decides to have another 300k volume day | [14:39] |
gigavps_ | i think you might change your mind about CPU usage then :) | [14:40] |
vragnaroda | Yeah, especially all the retards that can't figure out how to get to Wikipedia. | [14:40] |
Hunterbunter | lol @ liquidcoin = speculation only | [14:42] |
Hunterbunter | bitcoin is only worth speculating because of the attempt at value | [14:42] |
Hunterbunter | But sure, good luck to them | [14:43] |
rg | gigavps: its really active today | [14:43] |
rg | right now | [14:43] |
rg | and its using nothing | [14:43] |
* | dsg (~david@unaffiliated/dsg) has left #bitcoin-otc | [14:43] |
* | Turingi has quit (Quit: Leaving) | [14:45] |
rg | i wonder if adblock blocks my ad | [14:46] |
* | PaulIIIIIIII (PaulIIIIII@82.131.16.196.cable.starman.ee) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:47] |
PaulIIIIIIII | hi | [14:47] |
PaulIIIIIIII | how are you | [14:47] |
rg | awesome | [14:47] |
PaulIIIIIIII | dames and monsinjeurs | [14:47] |
phantomcircuit | rg, suspended for cpu usage? | [14:47] |
phantomcircuit | lol how is that even possible | [14:47] |
PaulIIIIIIII | is that tech channel | [14:48] |
phantomcircuit | his site is like 100% static content | [14:48] |
PaulIIIIIIII | ? | [14:48] |
gigavps_ | phantomcircuit: false | [14:48] |
vragnaroda | PaulIIIIIIII: Are you interested in buying or selling bitcoins or discussing something related to bitcoins? | [14:48] |
gigavps_ | phantomcircuit: use firebug to see interactions | [14:48] |
PaulIIIIIIII | actually, im intrested cosmic trip to venus | [14:48] |
phantomcircuit | gigavps_, it's all queries to mtgox through socket.io afaikt | [14:49] |
PaulIIIIIIII | if you can help me | [14:49] |
phantomcircuit | oh he pulls depth | [14:49] |
PaulIIIIIIII | manned venus mission is the goal | [14:49] |
* | ChanServ gives channel operator status to vragnaroda | [14:49] |
vragnaroda | goodbye | [14:49] |
* | vragnaroda sets ban on *!*@82.131.16.196.cable.starman.ee | [14:49] |
* | vragnaroda has kicked PaulIIIIIIII from #bitcoin-otc (PaulIIIIIIII) | [14:49] |
* | vragnaroda removes channel operator status from vragnaroda | [14:49] |
gigavps_ | lol | [14:49] |
phantomcircuit | he might have been serious | [14:50] |
phantomcircuit | never quite know | [14:50] |
vragnaroda | That's a definite possibility but that doesn't make it any better. | [14:50] |
vragnaroda | lol | [14:50] |
phantomcircuit | hehe | [14:50] |
vragnaroda | starman.ee so perhaps | [14:51] |
* | zyxwvut (ae065351@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.6.83.81) has left #bitcoin-otc | [14:51] |
rg | why doesnt we have a base on the moon | [14:52] |
rg | dont* | [14:52] |
vragnaroda | republicans | [14:52] |
benjamindees | radiation | [14:53] |
vragnaroda | Radiation is a shitty reason. | [14:53] |
phantomcircuit | cost | [14:54] |
vragnaroda | Radiation is a reason not to go back and forth often. | [14:54] |
phantomcircuit | the apollo missions cost about 3% of GBP | [14:54] |
* | gigavps_ has quit (Quit: gigavps_) | [14:54] |
phantomcircuit | GDP | [14:54] |
vragnaroda | But, cost is a much bigger reason for that. | [14:54] |
* | Underyx has quit (Quit: Leaving) | [14:54] |
phantomcircuit | we have better things to spend our money on like blowing up people in third world countries | [14:54] |
[\] | someone wanna spot me $75 ppusd until tomorrow? I'll pay you 5 bucks | [14:54] |
phantomcircuit | lol no | [14:55] |
phantomcircuit | no offense | [14:55] |
* | kW_ (~kW@89.204.155.152) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [14:55] |
rg | wikipedia actually blacked out | [14:56] |
vragnaroda | disable js on en.wikipedia.org | [14:56] |
rg | nicky i can do it if grubles wakes up | [14:56] |
rg | vrag: i just used firebug | [14:56] |
rg | to disable it | [14:56] |
vragnaroda | or that | [14:56] |
Hunterbunter | if there was any oil on the moon...or any minerals worth anything significant for that matter, we'd probably have a base there | [14:56] |
vragnaroda | Hunterbunter: *if there were | [14:57] |
vragnaroda | And there are valuable minerals there. | [14:57] |
* | loca has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [14:57] |
Hunterbunter | if there were | [14:57] |
Hunterbunter | what, iron? | [14:57] |
rg | if we built a base there | [14:57] |
rg | and brought plant life with us | [14:57] |
Hunterbunter | oh wait, sorry iron went to earth | [14:57] |
* | [\] is now known as imsaguy | [14:57] |
vragnaroda | There's no need to go mine iron anywhere else. | [14:57] |
vragnaroda | Unless, you're using it off-Earth. | [14:58] |
rg | welp | [14:58] |
vragnaroda | There's plenty of uranium on the moon. | [14:58] |
rg | this is the time where i decide if i want to go back to bed | [14:58] |
rg | or stay awake | [14:58] |
Hunterbunter | I know...but we're so busy with capitalism and consumerism, that the moon or anything else is largly irrelevant | [14:58] |
vragnaroda | A permanent presence in space requires energy and launching from Earth is significantly more energy-intensive than launching from the moon. | [14:58] |
Hunterbunter | if it's cheaper to get something from the moon, then sure | [14:58] |
Mqrius | Let's just mine the entire moon!!1 We don't need that thing, anyway | [14:58] |
vragnaroda | No, those things are what will make settling the moon happen. | [14:58] |
Hunterbunter | but atm, nothign is | [14:58] |
vragnaroda | If it weren't for those things, no one would bother. | [14:59] |
vragnaroda | Mqrius: Yeah, because mining the Earth has caused it to disappear, too. | [14:59] |
Mqrius | Was about time we took that piece of Earth back to where it belongs. (Bloody asteroids messing with our landmass) | [14:59] |
Hunterbunter | why did the US go to the moon in the first place? I figured that was a different time / public drive | [14:59] |
Mqrius | vragnaroda: We haven't tried hard enough | [14:59] |
Mqrius | Hunterbunter: Shits 'n' Giggles | [14:59] |
vragnaroda | Hunterbunter: early epeen measuring contest | [14:59] |
phantomcircuit | Hunterbunter, dick waving contest | [14:59] |
* | seco has quit (Quit: seco) | [14:59] |
phantomcircuit | vragnaroda, beat me too it | [14:59] |
rg | to show we could do it better than the russians | [14:59] |
Hunterbunter | so why did we want to do that then, and not now? | [15:00] |
benjamindees | to show we could put a nuclear warhead anywhere on the planet | [15:00] |
rg | cause russia is our bitch now | [15:00] |
vragnaroda | Hunterbunter: because now everyone knows the russians can only do what we did up until 1968 anyway | [15:00] |
Mqrius | Because Americans now believe other countries don't even have a dick. | [15:00] |
rg | pretty much | [15:00] |
vragnaroda | Mqrius: other countries are proving it every day | [15:00] |
rg | especially holland | [15:00] |
Hunterbunter | while you may all be correct, what a terribly sad view of humanity | [15:00] |
Hunterbunter | *saddening | [15:01] |
rg | this channel IS the sad humanity | [15:01] |
Mqrius | Holland has weed. weed > epeen | [15:01] |
vragnaroda | Well, I plan on retiring to the outer solar system when I'm about 130. | [15:01] |
rg | didnt they ban weed for tourists? | [15:01] |
* | tbage (~kx@75-151-132-54-Philadelphia.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:01] |
Mqrius | rg: Not sure if that passed yet. Won't work anyway. In any case, I'm no tourist | [15:01] |
rg | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh girl | [15:02] |
rg | id be in troubloe if you left me now | [15:02] |
vragnaroda | Well, I'll just go to my in-laws'. | [15:02] |
Mqrius | eh? | [15:02] |
Mqrius | rg is having insomnia hallucinations | [15:03] |
* | loca (54865846@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.134.88.70) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:03] |
* | roman3x has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [15:04] |
rg | http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/01/17/super-mario-crossover-gets-new-character-and-graphics-in-massi/ | [15:06] |
rg | A co-founder of the Pinkberry frozen yogurt franchise has been arrested and is accused of beating a homeless man with a tire iron near downtown Los Angeles, authorities said Tuesday. | [15:07] |
* | zhoutong|away has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [15:08] |
* | oww (~oww@94.75.201.102) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:08] |
* | asddda (be8aa84e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.138.168.78) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:09] |
* | oww has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [15:09] |
* | oww (~oww@94.75.201.102) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:09] |
* | oww has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [15:09] |
* | vigilyn has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | [15:11] |
Mqrius | ...In a quick response, google has dropped their entire Android FroYo line, and is now focusing solely on Gingerbread. | [15:12] |
* | asddda has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [15:15] |
rg | http://news.google.com/news/url?ct2=us%2F2_0_s_4_1_a&sa=t&usg=AFQjCNE4quqimDgyl7ONHqe817mY-yhaRg&cid=8797793848148&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbostonherald.com%2Fnews%2Fregional%2Fview%2F20220118newton_teacher_held_on_kid-porn_charges&ei=kcQWT4DhM4fnggfysgE&rt=SECTION&vm=STANDARD&bvm=section&did=8241994026892036387 | [15:15] |
rg | http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20220118newton_teacher_held_on_kid-porn_charges | [15:15] |
rg | ooooooops | [15:15] |
Mqrius | here we go again -.- | [15:15] |
rg | someone likes little kiddddies | [15:15] |
* | kW_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [15:18] |
* | DamascusVG|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | [15:19] |
* | loca has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [15:19] |
* | DamascusVG|afk (~BESommer@adsl-99-91-41-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:22] |
rg | i decided im not going back to bed | [15:22] |
rg | Mqr: what time is it where you are | [15:22] |
* | agricocb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | [15:23] |
Graet | yer bed is ovverated, stay and amuse us rg :P | [15:23] |
rg | im gonna | [15:24] |
rg | im making coffee nwo | [15:24] |
rg | so its official | [15:24] |
Graet | :) | [15:26] |
* | rdonohoe has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [15:27] |
rg | if i upload a picture | [15:28] |
rg | can you guys help me identify the plant | [15:28] |
Mqrius | rg: Maybe. | [15:28] |
* | vigilyn (~vigilyn@71-9-157-162.static.oxfr.ma.charter.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:28] |
* | kW_ (~kW@89.204.130.195) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:28] |
rg | i cant find my microusb cable | [15:29] |
rg | so fuck it | [15:29] |
rg | il do it later | [15:29] |
* | toffoo (~tof@189.60.50.98) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:29] |
* | DamascusVG|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | [15:30] |
* | chsados has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [15:32] |
* | abracadab is now known as abracadabra | [15:33] |
* | vorlov (~vorlov@207-237-144-20.c3-0.nyw-ubr2.nyr-nyw.ny.cable.rcn.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:33] |
* | vorlov has quit (Client Quit) | [15:34] |
rg | its a crazy lookin plant | [15:36] |
rg | i couldnt identify it by searching on google | [15:36] |
* | Framedragger (~k@server.mkj.lt) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:36] |
rg | this is where clark moody works http://lasr.tamu.edu/ | [15:38] |
rg | can you imagine if that was your day job | [15:38] |
rg | looks like they build robots all day | [15:38] |
* | DamascusVG|afk (~BESommer@adsl-99-91-41-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:38] |
rg | and mess wit hthem | [15:38] |
* | chsados (~chsa@c-71-229-206-230.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:38] |
rg | that would be . .awesome | [15:39] |
Cory | rg: Nice ad on Moody. :D | [15:40] |
* | DeLorean719 (DeLorean71@c-71-195-216-104.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:41] |
* | gribble gives voice to DeLorean719 | [15:41] |
* | Joric (~joric@unaffiliated/joric) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:41] |
* | gribble gives voice to Joric | [15:41] |
* | Skooma (4772003f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.0.63) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:42] |
Skooma | Ohey | [15:42] |
Skooma | Uhhh, i need some bitcoins | [15:43] |
Skooma | :l. | [15:43] |
Skooma | Anyone here? | [15:44] |
Mqrius | Skooma: Are you in Europe? | [15:46] |
Skooma | Afraid not | [15:46] |
Skooma | Im in usa | [15:46] |
Mqrius | Hmm. I guess most of the USA is still sleeping | [15:46] |
Skooma | Think so | [15:46] |
rg | Cory: |
[15:46] |
Skooma | Umm Mqrius | [15:46] |
rg | people will come to life soon | [15:46] |
* | d4de has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [15:46] |
rg | its almost 9AM | [15:46] |
rg | Skooma: your best bet is to get a moneypak | [15:47] |
rg | no paypal / credit cards here | [15:47] |
Skooma | Really? | [15:47] |
Skooma | I only have paypal :l... | [15:47] |
rg | paypal / credit cards are reversible | [15:47] |
rg | bitcoins are not | [15:47] |
* | EasyAt (~easyat@c-24-1-181-50.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:47] |
Skooma | Um rg | [15:47] |
EasyAt | oh god, reddit and wikipedia are down | [15:47] |
Skooma | Do you have a moneypak? | [15:47] |
* | benjamindees has quit (Quit: Leaving) | [15:47] |
rg | no, you buy them from Walgreens | [15:47] |
rg | or CVS | [15:47] |
Skooma | o jesus | [15:48] |
rg | https://www.moneypak.com/StoreLocator.aspx | [15:48] |
Skooma | thats inconvenient | [15:48] |
rg | well its either that or a bank transfer | [15:48] |
Mqrius | EasyAt: Supposedly you can browse wikipedia if you turn javascript off. | [15:48] |
rg | itsw just a CSS window | [15:48] |
rg | over wikipedia | [15:49] |
Skooma | Are you sure no one takes paypal rg? | [15:49] |
Mqrius | rg: All other divs are set to display: None for me | [15:49] |
rg | Skooma: lots of us accept paypal | [15:49] |
rg | just not for new people | [15:49] |
EasyAt | That's handy | [15:49] |
Skooma | Aw. | [15:49] |
rg | youre not signed up and dont have any feedback | [15:49] |
rg | so more than likely, no one will be willing to trade with you for pp | [15:49] |
Skooma | but im trustable ;o; | [15:49] |
Skooma | just new | [15:50] |
rg | we're just protecting ourselves | [15:50] |
* | agricocb (~agricolc@unaffiliated/agricocb) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:50] |
Skooma | rg, do you have bitcoins? | [15:50] |
Mqrius | Skooma: That's exactly what scammers would say :P | [15:50] |
Skooma | i know .-. | [15:50] |
Skooma | I can honestly send you the money and wait | [15:50] |
Skooma | 30 days | [15:50] |
Skooma | or whatever it is | [15:51] |
Mqrius | There have been chargebacks after months | [15:51] |
Skooma | o. | [15:51] |
Mqrius | So yeah | [15:51] |
Skooma | I cant wait that long :l | [15:51] |
Mqrius | Moneypak seems to work well though | [15:51] |
Mqrius | you could have the bitcoins today | [15:51] |
Skooma | mqrius, you buy some for me | [15:51] |
Skooma | :D | [15:51] |
rg | Skooma: i udnerstnad that its an inconvenience to you | [15:51] |
Mqrius | Skooma: Nope. For one, I'm in Europe, no moneypaks here. Second, that makes no sense :P | [15:52] |
rg | but those are your options | [15:52] |
rg | i would suggest dial-a-coin | [15:52] |
Skooma | I meant some bitcoins :l | [15:52] |
rg | but theyre on strike cause of SOPA | [15:52] |
Skooma | And okay rg .-. | [15:52] |
EasyAt | dial-a-song | [15:53] |
EasyAt | whats dialacoin? | [15:53] |
Skooma | Hows alertpay or liberty reserve? | [15:53] |
Mqrius | LR works, afaik | [15:54] |
Mqrius | (I'm not in the US though) | [15:54] |
imsaguy2 | Skooma, how many btc did you need? | [15:55] |
Skooma | uhh | [15:56] |
Skooma | idk | [15:56] |
Skooma | i have 150 dollars | [15:56] |
Skooma | USD | [15:56] |
Skooma | Conversion rate? | [15:56] |
DeLorean719 | ~$5.71 | [15:56] |
Skooma | Lol really? | [15:57] |
imsaguy2 | oh, I'd do 1 or 2, but since you're new, I can't do 150USD | [15:57] |
rg | http://www.bieberisright.org/ | [15:57] |
Skooma | imsaguy | [15:57] |
Skooma | Ill do any amount | [15:58] |
Skooma | I just need some ;L | [15:58] |
* | pierregh1 (~pierre@102.158-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [15:58] |
EasyAt | the radio commentator is obnoxious | [15:58] |
Skooma | bleh | [15:59] |
* | pierreghz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [16:00] |
* | Bigpiggy01Mining has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [16:01] |
Skooma | So uh | [16:01] |
Skooma | Anyone use silk road? | [16:01] |
* | Bigpiggy01Mining (~Bigpiggy0@175.171.131.154) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:01] |
rawrmage | lol | [16:01] |
rg | no | [16:01] |
DeLorean719 | [06:58] |
[16:01] |
DeLorean719 | lol | [16:01] |
rg | and talking about it is a good way to get banned | [16:01] |
rg | in here | [16:01] |
* | gigavpsAFK is now known as gigavps | [16:01] |
Skooma | Orly | [16:01] |
gigavps | good morning | [16:02] |
rg | hi james | [16:02] |
rg | copycat james | [16:02] |
* | chakl (~chakl@ool-4572b928.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:02] |
vragnaroda | Skooma: Silk Road is a DEA honeypot. | [16:02] |
Skooma | Sigh :l | [16:02] |
Skooma | im going | [16:02] |
Skooma | to get | [16:02] |
Skooma | some damn | [16:02] |
Skooma | bitcoins | [16:02] |
Skooma | damnit | [16:02] |
rg | vragnaroda: yeah i was reading the forum about 'selective rip offs' | [16:02] |
rg | which isnt a selective rip off, they send out X amount of fake drugs | [16:02] |
rg | and bust everyone else | [16:02] |
vragnaroda | Skooma: |
[16:02] |
Skooma | its too late vragnaroda | [16:03] |
Skooma | i already have | [16:03] |
rawrmage | im^Mgoing^Mto^Mget^Msome^Mdamn^Mbitcoins^Mdamnit | [16:03] |
gigavps | rg i am your elder, YOU are the copy cat :) | [16:03] |
Skooma | ._. .. | [16:03] |
rg | hmm | [16:03] |
rg | your views are interesting and i wish to subscribe to your news letter | [16:04] |
gigavps | Skooma has just been rawr'd | [16:04] |
Skooma | Owhy god | [16:04] |
Skooma | Gigavps | [16:04] |
rawrmage | forwhai | [16:04] |
gigavps | anyone want some video cards -> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eyc2CU0vqD0/TxbP7C8EoMI/AAAAAAAAAz0/1hhZU40wvPA/s640/IMG_0187.JPG | [16:04] |
Skooma | I want some currency | [16:05] |
gigavps | Skooma do you live in the US? | [16:05] |
Skooma | yes | [16:05] |
EasyAt | gigavps: how much? | [16:05] |
Skooma | how much what | [16:05] |
Skooma | o nv | [16:05] |
Skooma | m | [16:05] |
rg | gigavps: wt? | [16:05] |
rg | i thought you were expanding | [16:05] |
gigavps | ok, read this very carefully -> GO GET A MONEYPAK AND I WILL SELL YOU BITCOINS | [16:06] |
rawrmage | lol | [16:06] |
rg | hell, id sell you bitcoins | [16:06] |
Skooma | gigavps im not going to scam you :l | [16:06] |
rg | if you had a moneypak | [16:06] |
Skooma | ffas | [16:06] |
Skooma | ffs | [16:06] |
rg | Skooma: you can beg and plead | [16:06] |
rg | all day | [16:06] |
gigavps | EasyAt $175 each for the 6950s | [16:06] |
rg | no one is going to sell to you | [16:06] |
Skooma | COMON! | [16:06] |
Mqrius | -.-' | [16:06] |
gigavps | EasyAt i also have about 12 5830s for $75 each | [16:06] |
rg | why are we going to risk our hard earned money | [16:06] |
rg | to do you a favor? | [16:06] |
rg | we dont even know you | [16:06] |
Skooma | i know | [16:06] |
Skooma | but ughhh!! | [16:07] |
Skooma | you arent risking it | [16:07] |
Skooma | :l | [16:07] |
gigavps | Skooma if you don't follow what i said, you will probably be kicked from the room | [16:07] |
Skooma | what did you say | [16:07] |
gigavps | channel | [16:07] |
rg | gigavps: really? $75? | [16:07] |
* | gigavps hopes vragnaroda doesn't hurt me | [16:07] |
rg | maybe ill upgrade my 5770 | [16:07] |
Skooma | :l... | [16:07] |
imsaguy2 | gigavps -> | [16:07] |
mircea_popescu | hmm, anyone doing facebook campaigns ? | [16:07] |
rawrmage | Skooma: with paypal, we /are/ risking it | [16:07] |
gigavps | rg 6950 == $175, 5830 == $75 | [16:07] |
rg | mircea_popescu: an employee of bitvps is trying to get me to do faceboo kadvertising | [16:07] |
Skooma | I say you arent because im like | [16:07] |
Skooma | an awesome dude | [16:08] |
Skooma | and noble! | [16:08] |
EasyAt | gigavps: lemme crunch some numbers | [16:08] |
rg | gigavps | [16:08] |
Mqrius | Skooma: And I'm the king of Spain | [16:08] |
rg | gigavps: yeah a 5830 would be a nice upgrade | [16:08] |
rg | from my 5770 | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | rg aha. was kinda looking to see if it's worth it | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | seems like a potential total waste of money. | [16:08] |
rg | mircea_popescu: im skeptical | [16:08] |
rg | search for bitcoin | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | so there's two of us. | [16:08] |
rg | theres like 10k people on facebook | [16:08] |
rg | who have bitcoin mentioned | [16:08] |
rawrmage | ;;getrating Skooma | [16:08] |
Skooma | sigh.. | [16:08] |
rawrmage | why don't you register for WoT then | [16:08] |
Mqrius | Now send me all your money and I will send you a gazillion bitcoin. | [16:08] |
Skooma | WoT? | [16:08] |
rawrmage | ;;tell Skooma [guide] | [16:08] |
rg | out of millions of users | [16:08] |
Skooma | Im honestly new | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | i wasn't gonna do it for btc, unrelated stuff. | [16:09] |
Mqrius | We honestly know | [16:09] |
* | cyphur (7833c802@gateway/web/freenode/ip.120.51.200.2) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:09] |
Skooma | I know :l... | [16:09] |
gigavps | someone please kick Skooma | [16:09] |
EasyAt | The 6950s are ~400 Mhash? | [16:09] |
Skooma | Ok giga whoa | [16:09] |
Skooma | ill stop | [16:09] |
Skooma | Sorry for being new! | [16:09] |
Skooma | -Cry- | [16:09] |
gigavps | EasyAt 365Mh/s for the 6950s | [16:09] |
* | aaps (~aat@ip181-43-208-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:09] |
cyphur | hey guys | [16:09] |
cyphur | sheez what a day | [16:09] |
gigavps | Skooma go read the -otc site first | [16:09] |
Skooma | I did | [16:10] |
Skooma | but i didnt understand it | [16:10] |
imsaguy2 | ;;tell Skooma [guide] | [16:10] |
Skooma | so i came here | [16:10] |
gigavps | Skooma no one wants to watch you cry type all day because no one will accept your paypal | [16:10] |
EasyAt | Hm, I'll get back to you on it... Gotta brave the outside for coffee and work | [16:10] |
Skooma | I know giga. | [16:10] |
Skooma | I know | [16:10] |
Skooma | I JUST NEED SOME BTC IN DIS BITCH! | [16:11] |
rawrmage | lol | [16:11] |
* | ChanServ gives channel operator status to vragnaroda | [16:11] |
Skooma | kidding but i do need btc. | [16:11] |
rawrmage | you /want/ btc. | [16:11] |
gigavps | Skooma like i said, go get a moneypak | [16:11] |
* | vragnaroda has kicked Skooma from #bitcoin-otc (Do *NOT* shout and quit using enter as punctuation.) | [16:11] |
gigavps | LOL | [16:11] |
imsaguy2 | :) | [16:11] |
* | vragnaroda removes channel operator status from vragnaroda | [16:12] |
* | EasyAt is now known as EasyAt| | [16:12] |
rg | why dont we just call the cops on him now | [16:12] |
rg | he wants to use silkroad | [16:12] |
rg | lets do him that favor | [16:12] |
imsaguy2 | lol | [16:12] |
vragnaroda | luke-jr: You around? | [16:12] |
gigavps | rg a little extreme | [16:12] |
imsaguy2 | vragnaroda: probably morning mass | [16:12] |
gigavps | vragnaroda why would you call luke into here | [16:12] |
imsaguy2 | gigavps: why u no answer my question? | [16:13] |
gigavps | sorry, missed it, what was it again? | [16:13] |
imsaguy2 | -> | [16:13] |
EasyAt| | I want to here luke's views about child bearing again | [16:13] |
* | cyphur has quit (Client Quit) | [16:13] |
vragnaroda | I can't/wouldn't call cops on him but if luke-jr wants to, I won't stop him. :P | [16:13] |
rg | [16:14] | |
rg | luke is pretty lenient on laws | [16:14] |
rg | he was with me | [16:14] |
rg | he coulda called the police on m | [16:14] |
rg | e | [16:14] |
rg | but he didnt | [16:14] |
rg | it did benefit him | [16:14] |
rg | and he had deniability tho | [16:14] |
EasyAt| | Why would luke call the police on you | [16:16] |
rg | i cant tell you without incriminating myself and luke | [16:16] |
rg | so we'll leave it at tht | [16:16] |
* | loca (548633d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.134.51.212) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:18] |
* | loca has quit (Client Quit) | [16:18] |
* | rdponticelli (~Bitcoin@200-081-044-212.wireless.movistar.net.ar) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:18] |
* | rdponticelli_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [16:19] |
luke-jr | EasyAt|: it's ok, whatever he's talking about, he didn't tell me eithr | [16:21] |
* | shhorn11 (cf8ac46e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.138.196.110) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:21] |
Mqrius | I guess butt-sex is still illegal in some American states. | [16:21] |
* | gribble gives voice to Framedragger | [16:21] |
EasyAt| | heh | [16:23] |
vragnaroda | Mqrius: Below the age of consent or without consent, yes, it's illegal in all of them. | [16:23] |
EasyAt| | K, time to face the 18 degree weather | [16:23] |
vragnaroda | At or over the age of consent and with consent, it is legal in all of them. | [16:23] |
Mqrius | vragnaroda: Fair enough | [16:23] |
shhorn11 | ;;gpg eaut shhorn11 | [16:24] |
rg | so close | [16:24] |
rg | i just took a huge dump | [16:24] |
shhorn11 | ;;gpg eauth shhorn11 | [16:24] |
* | occulta (~occulta@gateway/tor-sasl/occulta) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:25] |
Mqrius | =_= Can't tell if dump on market or in toilet | [16:25] |
* | merde has quit () | [16:26] |
* | EasyAt| has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | [16:27] |
* | rdonohoe (b03d3d79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.61.61.121) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:29] |
* | basschiller (bc6514b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.101.20.184) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:36] |
hexu | anyone care to donate me just 0.05 coins, will rate? damn bitcoin rates going up in a matter of hours... | [16:37] |
hexu | will give rating | [16:37] |
* | DeLorean719 has quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | [16:39] |
Joric | 0.05 btc rating? meh | [16:40] |
* | basschiller has quit (Client Quit) | [16:40] |
hexu | i give 1 rating ofc | [16:40] |
imsaguy2 | selling a rating? | [16:41] |
imsaguy2 | classy | [16:41] |
* | emmanuelux (~emmanuel@2a01:e35:2e4d:9010:21d:60ff:fe0e:b818) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:41] |
hexu | yeah for very cheap limited time only | [16:41] |
hexu | not wortth buying 0.05 coins dont think anyone would sell | [16:42] |
hexu | anyone kind enough? just bought coins but the rating went up while waiting for them to show in my wallet -.-' | [16:44] |
* | SomeoneWeird is now known as SomeoneWeirdzzzz | [16:44] |
* | kakobreklaaa (~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:46] |
* | Silberfuchs (~Travel@p57B2A9F3.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:47] |
* | kakobreklaa has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [16:48] |
* | hngryhngryhippo (~no@pool-71-191-150-126.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:51] |
helo | it's as worth it to sell 0.05 coins as it is to posess them... why do you want 0.05 btc? | [16:52] |
hexu | read up | [16:52] |
hexu | id say 1 rating for just 0.05 isnt bad | [16:52] |
hexu | if anyone here is kind enough to donate such ridiculously small amount will defi rate | [16:53] |
* | Silberfuchs has quit (Quit: Verlassend) | [16:53] |
* | Turingi (~devon@unaffiliated/devon-hillard/x-7250961) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:55] |
hexu | afk heres the address if someone wants to donate.. 12BqBAZdDZohyXXNmkBeobhNcbB7yVqo5d send me message ill rate when i come back | [16:55] |
* | VO (~VO@134.53.245.65) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [16:55] |
smickles | hexu, the idea of rating is to express trust, buying a rating like that may be seen as cheating the system | [16:57] |
* | kW_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | [16:58] |
aaps | well, the market is the market | [16:59] |
hexu | i cant give rating to someone who decides to give donate me? if i dont mention the rating | [16:59] |
hexu | damn right it raises my trust to that person if someone is nice to me | [17:00] |
* | VO has quit (Client Quit) | [17:00] |
aaps | but im a poor man ;) | [17:00] |
gigavps | hexu why did you come here to beg | [17:03] |
Joric | whould you mark this rating as 'bought for 0.05 btc' ? | [17:03] |
smickles | aaps, I never said hexu couldn't do it | [17:04] |
hexu | nop id write something like "nice guy donated me small amount coins i lacked:)" | [17:04] |
gigavps | hmmm, the address he posted already has 11 coins | [17:04] |
hexu | yeah need 11.1 | [17:04] |
gigavps | hexu why do you need exactly 11.1 coins? | [17:05] |
hexu | damn bitcoin rating went up from the moment i bought them | [17:05] |
hexu | while waiting for them to show up in my wallet | [17:05] |
gigavps | ;;getrating hexu | [17:05] |
hexu | now i dont have enough anymore | [17:05] |
hexu | giga dont know where else i should ask in my situation.. | [17:06] |
* | EasyAt| (~easy@64.244.204.2) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:06] |
gigavps | hexu why do you need the coins so quickly? | [17:07] |
* | EasyAt| is now known as EasyAt | [17:07] |
EasyAt | drugs | [17:07] |
aaps | i know, and i didnt want to imply as sutch | [17:07] |
hexu | see private | [17:08] |
gigavps | hexu this is not the bitcoin-vagabond room | [17:08] |
gigavps | PM from hexu: | [17:08] |
gigavps | [17:08] | |
gigavps | [17:08] | |
smickles | lol gigavps | [17:08] |
hexu | well u asked for it | [17:08] |
gigavps | hexu please don't discuss silkroad with me or in this room | [17:08] |
hexu | ur the one who said it here m8 | [17:09] |
smickles | it is nice to avoid SR, that was just funny how quick that PM came out :D | [17:09] |
hexu | ive been told its ok to talk in private just not here in the open | [17:10] |
imsaguy2 | its also not ok to pm without permission | [17:10] |
gfinn | there's nothing wrong with sending someone a message | [17:11] |
hexu | allright ill be more careful in future | [17:11] |
hexu | never heard that tho | [17:11] |
gfinn | where do you people get the idea that one needs "permission"? | [17:11] |
gigavps | hexu nobody wants to feed your drug habit with free bitcoins, let alone ones you purchase | [17:11] |
hexu | maybe not all care where the money goes | [17:11] |
hexu | think thats the idea here? | [17:11] |
Joric | pls explain say i have 100k and trading at 10 | [17:12] |
rg | your bitcoins are your own business | [17:12] |
gigavps | hexu let me rephrase, i will not give you free bitcoins or sell you coins | [17:12] |
rg | we dont care / want to know what youre spending them on | [17:12] |
rg | so keep it to yourself | [17:12] |
rg | or get banned | [17:12] |
gfinn | if someone specifically asks you not to, fine | [17:12] |
Joric | eg using 10:1 leverage, 1m$ | [17:12] |
hexu | ok m8 u dont but i wasnt asking only you | [17:12] |
smickles | hexu, as i understand it, this is a public place and most things on SR are illegal for many of us here | [17:12] |
hexu | yeah im not the one who took it up | [17:12] |
Joric | if my position gets liquidated at 6% i will lose 6% or 60% ? | [17:12] |
* | rg buys a gun on SR to kill hexu | [17:13] |
smickles | Joric, 60 , if you're at 10;1 | [17:13] |
gfinn | hexu, looks like you'd do better offering to buy a few bitcoins | [17:13] |
* | merde (~assdf@178.137.169.222) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:13] |
Joric | that sucks | [17:13] |
smickles | Joric, that's leverage | [17:13] |
* | reith (~reith@unaffiliated/reith) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:13] |
gigavps | Joric leverage works both ways, makes money quicker and loses money quicker | [17:13] |
smickles | you could also gain 100% if you cash out at a positive 10% | [17:13] |
helo | so bitcoinica could flood the market to liquidate people and bank? | [17:15] |
jjjrmy | imsaguy: you buy now? :3 | [17:15] |
Joric | damnit it's $5.5 i should buy too | [17:15] |
smickles | helo, did you see what happened yesterday? | [17:15] |
helo | is that kind of thing illegal for stock brokers? | [17:15] |
helo | smickles: yeah, saw the g+ post | [17:15] |
Joric | 10:1 leverage seems safe now | [17:15] |
smickles | helo, in a regulated market, maybe | [17:15] |
* | jacker224 (~none@client-86-25-39-22.midd-bam-1.adsl.virginmedia.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:16] |
Framedragger | hey guys, has anyone tried gpg-registering via gribble lately? There seem to be problems with it retrieving new keys from the keyservers. Tried quite a few a keyserver, know the gribble syntax, all that. (it's not for myself.) Connectivity issues / any news? | [17:16] |
smickles | bitcoin isn't, and hopefully will never be, regulated | [17:16] |
area | Joric: Famous last words... | [17:16] |
smickles | lol | [17:16] |
smickles | helo, what g+ post? | [17:17] |
Framedragger | nanotube, anyone, any info about gribble<->keyserver connectivity issues by any chance?.. | [17:17] |
Joric | https://plus.google.com/100386605739064901646/posts/FSb5J3m9rxz | [17:18] |
smickles | i only watch the charts as it happened and read a forum post | [17:18] |
EasyAt | thats the same as the forum post | [17:19] |
Joric | there's no bitcoinica screenshot though | [17:19] |
Joric | http://s018.radikal.ru/i513/1201/b8/ecc705713740.jpg | [17:19] |
smickles | thanks Joric | [17:19] |
Joric | why it's hosted on radical, was it russian? | [17:19] |
jjjrmy | What is Bitcoinica? | [17:19] |
EasyAt | How can you liquidate someones position? | [17:20] |
rg | pirateat40: are you still having leaking issues with the ego-C? | [17:20] |
smickles | EasyAt, buy causing the market to move far enough against them | [17:20] |
rg | at all? | [17:20] |
rg | actually he might still be asleep | [17:20] |
smickles | jjjrmy, it's a 'brokerage' where you can trade btc/usd with leverage | [17:20] |
EasyAt | Ah, so these guys just bought heavily to push the market back up | [17:21] |
EasyAt | they also bought for super cheap, so it helped them a ton | [17:21] |
Joric | taken from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=59969.msg697530 | [17:21] |
rg | trading has definitely picked up | [17:21] |
rg | but CM's vps is sitll using nearly nothing for cpu | [17:21] |
rg | strange | [17:21] |
rg | i wonder who hosted him before | [17:21] |
helo | his closet? | [17:22] |
Joric | mom's basement is the best datacenter | [17:22] |
jcpham | anyone have mtgox cash for sale? | [17:23] |
jcpham | quickly | [17:23] |
EasyAt | Does a buy wall move the market at all? | [17:23] |
Joric | damnit bitcoinica has no reserve, again | [17:23] |
imsaguy2 | jcpham, nanotube often times | [17:23] |
jcpham | it takes waaaaay too long to move funds to gox | [17:24] |
rg | lol | [17:24] |
rg | bitcoinica sucks | [17:24] |
rg | but you guys keep using it | [17:24] |
rg | leave bitcoinica to the pros | [17:24] |
rg | like pirateat40 | [17:24] |
jjjrmy | imsaguy2: YOU BUY NOWWWWWWW? :( | [17:24] |
smickles | EasyAt, a true bidwall should move the market up | [17:24] |
EasyAt | smickles: what is not a true bid wall? | [17:25] |
smickles | EasyAt, 99% of bid walls | [17:25] |
smickles | they are mostly fake b/c: as the current price approaches them, they disappear before any of their trades are executed | [17:26] |
rg | yeah | [17:27] |
rg | that is true | [17:27] |
rg | its just people trying to freak everyone out | [17:27] |
smickles | if you ever see a flat line on a volume based chart, that was a real wall | [17:27] |
rg | not necessarily | [17:27] |
smickles | you don't think so? | [17:27] |
rg | wtf is with the 0.123 trades | [17:28] |
rg | you guys seeing this? | [17:28] |
rg | 1.23 i mean | [17:28] |
smickles | hmm, is it the .0123 bot ramping up it's game? | [17:28] |
EasyAt | interesting | [17:28] |
rg | http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ | [17:28] |
rg | check it out | [17:28] |
rg | over 25 trades for 1.23 | [17:28] |
EasyAt | So can't I just shift the market up by putting a huge bidwall at like 5.1 | [17:28] |
rg | could just be websocket fucking up | [17:28] |
EasyAt | which wont get hit | [17:29] |
Joric | 0.0125 is 1/80 | [17:29] |
smickles | EasyAt, if you do it right, maybe | [17:29] |
phantomcircuit | rg, it's not | [17:29] |
smickles | many people realize the walls are fake and take action accordingly | [17:29] |
rg | does windows XP connection limit apply to every service that listens on a port | [17:29] |
rg | so if you ran an apache httpd it would only be able to have 10 connections? | [17:30] |
rg | or is that just shit like rdesktop | [17:30] |
Joric | gosh that's really one ugly ass banner | [17:30] |
rg | Joric: blow yourself | [17:30] |
* | nelisky has quit (Quit: nelisky) | [17:30] |
* | moblob has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | [17:30] |
rg | it was meant to be displayed on clarkmoody without taking the focus away from the trading data | [17:31] |
rg | you stool pigeon | [17:31] |
phantomcircuit | rg, lol are you serious with that question? | [17:31] |
rg | yes phantom | [17:32] |
EasyAt | Does teapearty love bitcoin? | [17:32] |
rg | XP has a connection limit | [17:32] |
rg | and its fucking up what i need to do | [17:33] |
rg | incoming connection, i mean | [17:33] |
phantomcircuit | it's not an incoming limit | [17:33] |
phantomcircuit | it's a concurrent half open limit | [17:34] |
imsaguy2 | rg: the clark moody banner isn't the same black as clark moody | [17:34] |
* | moblob (~kamma@252.80-202-156.nextgentel.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:34] |
phantomcircuit | also it's well documented how to make it larger | [17:34] |
rg | imsaguy2: i dont care | [17:34] |
rg | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314882 | [17:34] |
rg | Inbound connections limit in Windows XP | [17:34] |
rg | are you retard? | [17:34] |
imsaguy2 | rg: apache should be ok | [17:35] |
rg | imsaguy2: kewl | [17:35] |
imsaguy2 | its mainly rpc connections | [17:35] |
rg | YES | [17:35] |
imsaguy2 | and iis is hard limited | [17:35] |
rg | thats the words im looking for | [17:35] |
rg | rpc connections | [17:35] |
rg | like DCOM, remote shit | [17:35] |
rg | people connected via SMB | [17:35] |
rg | ok cool | [17:36] |
phantomcircuit | rg, this isn't about connections in general but specifically about sessions | [17:36] |
Joric | imsaguy, clarkmoody can be white - controls -> use a lighter theme | [17:36] |
* | kW_ (~kW@89.204.153.53) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:36] |
rg | phantomcircuit, right, thats why i asked | [17:36] |
phantomcircuit | and i dont think there is any sane way to fix the issue short of evicting sessions periodically | [17:36] |
rg | http://www.speedguide.net/articles/windows-xp-sp2-tcpipsys-connection-limit-patch-1497 | [17:37] |
rg | ill do that too | [17:37] |
rg | though it seems risky | [17:37] |
imsaguy2 | The connection limit refers to the number of redirector-based connections and is enforced for any file, print, named pipe, or mail slot session. The TCP connection limit is not enforced, but it may be bound by legal agreement to not permit more than 10 clients. | [17:37] |
imsaguy2 | :) | [17:37] |
rg | im gonna install a test server | [17:37] |
imsaguy2 | apache should be fine | [17:37] |
rg | and try iut | [17:37] |
rg | im so pissed about my DMCA warning | [17:37] |
rg | from CBS | [17:37] |
phantomcircuit | yeah basically they restrict it to 10 clients so you dont run a massive multi user system using an xp license | [17:37] |
phantomcircuit | although i dont think there is much risk of anybody doing that | [17:38] |
imsaguy2 | phantomcircuit: you'd be surprised | [17:38] |
rg | i had a sparkling abuse record with my dallas ISP | [17:38] |
phantomcircuit | rg, lol wat | [17:38] |
rg | (sparkling clean) | [17:38] |
rg | phantom: my ISP laid teh hammer down on me about hosting The Good Wife | [17:38] |
phantomcircuit | lol | [17:38] |
phantomcircuit | someone *ehem* used a hidden service to host it | [17:39] |
phantomcircuit | yes yes | [17:39] |
phantomcircuit | someone | [17:39] |
rg | kinda hard to lie to your ISP when you host it in https://client.bitvps.com/billing | [17:39] |
phantomcircuit | lol | [17:39] |
phantomcircuit | yeah kind of my point | [17:39] |
rg | i told them it was for personal use | [17:39] |
rg | and the URL wasnt public | [17:39] |
rg | (cause it wasnt) | [17:39] |
rg | they dont seem to care | [17:39] |
rg | at all | [17:39] |
Mqrius | :D | [17:39] |
rg | but i just wish i had that clean slate stil | [17:40] |
Mqrius | Hope it won't come back to haunt ya | [17:40] |
rg | thats what im worried about | [17:40] |
rg | if a customer does something like that | [17:40] |
rg | and we get a warning | [17:40] |
rg | itll be bad | [17:40] |
rg | though most Dallas customers are pretty well behaved | [17:40] |
Mqrius | 2 strikes, you're banned? | [17:40] |
rg | i need to start putting more customers on there | [17:41] |
rg | Mqrius: no.. but they could start getting pissed | [17:41] |
* | fitosoft29 (~fitosoft2@189.187.135.253) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:41] |
Mqrius | Just monitor for "xvid" or "iso" | [17:41] |
* | kW_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [17:41] |
Mqrius | that should catch most cases | [17:41] |
rg | MCA Repeat Infringer Policy. For any one Customer website, Customer can receive no more than three (3) unique DMCA violation notices within any calendar year or service for that website will be terminated. | [17:41] |
rg | 3 strikes. | [17:41] |
rg | Customer must remove infringing content within 24 hours of notice. If infringing content is not removed within 24 hours, GNAX will suspend all access to the offending website. | [17:42] |
rg | well thats good caus | [17:42] |
Mqrius | Hm | [17:42] |
rg | it was removed before i even got the DMCA warning | [17:42] |
* | copumpkin has quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) | [17:42] |
rg | then i mocked them on the forum | [17:42] |
* | blognewb (~blognewb_@unaffiliated/blognewb) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:42] |
rg | infact | [17:43] |
rg | im going to mock them again | [17:43] |
rg | by uploading it to a chinese server | [17:43] |
rg | and posting it on the forum | [17:43] |
Mqrius | Your ISP has a forum ^_- | [17:43] |
phantomcircuit | he means bitcointalk.org | [17:43] |
rg | no, bitcointalk | [17:43] |
Mqrius | oh | [17:43] |
jcpham | the retard forum | [17:43] |
rg | thats where they got the URL from | [17:43] |
rg | i couldve claimed it wasnt me | [17:44] |
rg | had i not replied to it and said | [17:44] |
rg | 'EVERYONE DOWNLOAD. MAX OUT MY PIPE!' | [17:44] |
jcpham | link me | [17:44] |
Mqrius | xD | [17:44] |
jcpham | i'm still perma-banned | [17:44] |
blognewb | guys | [17:45] |
blognewb | so how much is a moneypak card? | [17:45] |
rg | $5 | [17:45] |
rg | wow | [17:46] |
rg | this box has a shitty connection to the US | [17:46] |
blognewb | says costs 4.95 or less so does that mean you load money into it but you cant use the 5$ u paid for it? | [17:46] |
frauf | 5 dollars you pay the company for the coupon | [17:46] |
* | Gaglia (~gaglia@drms-4d014b52.pool.mediaWays.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:46] |
frauf | can get recharge cards | [17:46] |
blognewb | frauf then it comes in diff denominations? | [17:47] |
* | Framedragger has quit (Quit: Leaving.) | [17:47] |
frauf | yup | [17:47] |
blognewb | 5$ thats a lot | [17:47] |
blognewb | thats bull man | [17:47] |
frauf | blame society | [17:47] |
rg | blog: its the same charge as for a moneyorder | [17:47] |
rg | its just $5 instead of $1 | [17:47] |
rg | cause its: | [17:48] |
rg | a. instant | [17:48] |
* | reith has quit (Quit: leaving) | [17:48] |
rg | b. online | [17:48] |
gfinn | yeah 5 is the same as 1 | [17:48] |
rg | no ass tard | [17:48] |
rg | its the same type of fee charge | [17:48] |
frauf | ..times 5 | [17:48] |
rg | ok | [17:48] |
rg | read what i say | [17:48] |
rg | very closely | [17:48] |
gfinn | sure | [17:48] |
rg | the AMOUNT is not the same | [17:48] |
gfinn | and a money order could be $20 | [17:49] |
rg | but it is the same TYPE of FEE | [17:49] |
gfinn | but it wouldn't be worth it | [17:49] |
rg | its a convenience fee | [17:49] |
rg | no one is forcing you to use it | [17:49] |
frauf | its a fee for the service.. | [17:49] |
rg | if you think its unfair, dont use it | [17:49] |
frauf | theyre selling a product | [17:49] |
frauf | not transaction fees | [17:49] |
frauf | its a business...doing its thing | [17:49] |
frauf | dherbrains | [17:49] |
gfinn | there's nothing unfair about it | [17:49] |
rg | then stop complaining | [17:49] |
gfinn | complaining? | [17:50] |
gfinn | who's complaining? | [17:50] |
rg | everyone except me | [17:50] |
jcpham | hi | [17:50] |
frauf | we should play spin the bottle | [17:50] |
rg | frauf: ;;roulette | [17:50] |
gfinn | nah | [17:50] |
jcpham | http://bitcoincloud.at/ | [17:50] |
jcpham | anyone want toexplain and/or translate | [17:51] |
jcpham | not sure what i just watched | [17:51] |
frauf | http://vimeo.com/31100268 | [17:51] |
blognewb | rg but i mean im comparing it with dwolla it's expensive | [17:51] |
blognewb | not western union | [17:51] |
smickles | it's faster and safer than dwolla | [17:52] |
* | mikebob (~mikebob@wsip-64-58-150-130.oc.oc.cox.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [17:52] |
frauf | yeah | [17:52] |
frauf | and cooler | [17:52] |
frauf | 50c at least for coolness | [17:52] |
EasyAt | So those steep walls on volume charts are where the bid walls are? | [17:52] |
smickles | probably | [17:53] |
smickles | er | [17:53] |
smickles | sorry, no | [17:53] |
smickles | steep walls on volume charts (vertical walls) are where the depth was thin and the market moved far without very much volume | [17:54] |
smickles | oh, wait, what do you mean by 'volume chart'? | [17:54] |
EasyAt | btccharts.com | [17:54] |
EasyAt | What would you call that? | [17:55] |
smickles | the orange and blue lines? | [17:55] |
EasyAt | yep | [17:55] |
smickles | that's a depth chart | [17:55] |
EasyAt | my mistake | [17:55] |
smickles | the vertical lines (blue and orange) are the walls | [17:56] |
EasyAt | And those steep lines are where there is alot of bid walls? | [17:56] |
smickles | *the vertical parts of the lines | [17:56] |
smickles | yeah, so there's a bid wall at 5.4 for ex. | [17:56] |
EasyAt | so if we beat 5.7 its pretty much just going to jump to 5.75 almost instantly | [17:56] |
smickles | depends on how fast the market is moving | [17:57] |
smickles | but that shows ~ 3k resistance up to 5.8 | [17:57] |
smickles | right now, the past 3k took about an hour and a half | [17:58] |
EasyAt | 20k/5.6 | [17:58] |
EasyAt | ? | [17:58] |
smickles | and you must consider that more asks will fill in as time goes on | [17:59] |
smickles | so it will be more than 3 k | [17:59] |
EasyAt | that makes sense | [17:59] |
smickles | {20k/5.6}? | [17:59] |
EasyAt | You said 3k to move | [17:59] |
EasyAt | its 20k in to get to 5.8 | [17:59] |
EasyAt | so I was thinking 20k/~5.7 means about 3k bitcoins | [18:00] |
smickles | i don't see the USD value, i only see the BTC value | [18:01] |
EasyAt | Well.... where did you get 3k from then haha | [18:01] |
rg | hey jfyi | [18:01] |
EasyAt | Ah, how is that? my btc charts is in USD for Asls | [18:01] |
smickles | 3k btc is the depth to 5.79 right now | [18:01] |
rg | i took two huge shits today | [18:01] |
rg | which is more shit today than i have shit all week | [18:01] |
jcpham | nice rg | [18:01] |
EasyAt | Asks* | [18:01] |
rg | well, all last week | [18:01] |
rg | im gonna have Greed make me ab etter banner | [18:02] |
smickles | i dunno, I just clicked the link you provided EasyAt | [18:02] |
EasyAt | interesting, it tells me amount of USD to get to a certain price | [18:03] |
EasyAt | or the amount of btc to fall to a certain price | [18:03] |
smickles | ah, i see, when you hover over w/ the mouse cursor | [18:04] |
* | Cablesaurus has quit (Quit: Light travels faster then sound, which is why some people appear bright, until you hear them speak) | [18:05] |
* | OneFixt has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [18:05] |
* | arvicco_ (~arvicco@vbezr.static.corbina.ru) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:05] |
-RichiH- | [Global Notice] Hi all. We just blogged about SOPA/PIPA on http://blog.freenode.net/2012/01/on-sopapipa/ and suggest you join ##sopa if you are interested in these proposed bills or other discussion around this general topic. As always, have a nice day and thanks for flying freenode air! | [18:06] |
* | arvicco has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | [18:07] |
* | arvicco_ is now known as arvicco | [18:07] |
EasyAt | I feel bad cheating and turning java script off to use wiki | [18:07] |
smickles | lol, i just assumed they didn't go thru with the blackout | [18:07] |
* | smickles has javascript off by default | [18:08] |
jjjrmy | Anyonew anna buy a 6850? | [18:08] |
area | Man, that ##sopa channel just exploded after that global notice | [18:09] |
* | kW_ (~kW@82.113.99.67) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:09] |
EasyAt | why are some chans double ## | [18:09] |
* | copumpkin (~copumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:10] |
* | ChanServ gives voice to copumpkin | [18:10] |
frauf | cool channels can | [18:11] |
* | bitfoo has quit (Quit: Need more coins...) | [18:14] |
* | je_fro (~unknown@99-101-239-248.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:14] |
* | je_fro has quit (Changing host) | [18:14] |
* | je_fro (~unknown@gentoo/developer/je-fro) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:14] |
rg | ## == no offical represenation | [18:15] |
rg | ## == no offical representation | [18:15] |
rg | # == official | [18:15] |
jcpham | woof | [18:15] |
jcpham | in mexico it would be el-woofo | [18:16] |
imsaguy2 | New rating | hexu > -10 > gigavps | has a personal grudge against me and tried to get me banned,, wouldnt ever trust this guy | [18:16] |
copumpkin | wtf | [18:16] |
smickles | really? | [18:16] |
imsaguy2 | I do not lie | [18:16] |
hexu | yea thats my personal rating | [18:16] |
jcpham | ;;getrating hexu | [18:17] |
smickles | -10 seems excessive, in my opinion | [18:18] |
jcpham | basically | [18:18] |
jcpham | and it's against the best seller around | [18:18] |
hexu | yeah maybe a little over rated now that you mention,, ill change to -5 | [18:18] |
hexu | -10 means like scam i guess? | [18:18] |
copumpkin | hexu: you just make a fool of yourself by doing that to one of the most trusted guys around here | [18:18] |
imsaguy2 | jcpham: I take offense to that :p | [18:18] |
smickles | major fraud, i think | [18:19] |
copumpkin | hexu: the only effect it has is to make you look shady | [18:19] |
jcpham | imsaguy you know what i meant | [18:19] |
imsaguy2 | I'm just playing | [18:19] |
hexu | whatever i aint changing it. | [18:19] |
jcpham | i agree with copumpkin | [18:19] |
hexu | its my rating on him | [18:19] |
copumpkin | hexu: up to you, but as I said, it says more about you than it says about him | [18:19] |
hexu | my rating just tells my trust.. everyone can decide for themself | [18:22] |
copumpkin | yep, I'm just saying what people will decide for themselves | [18:23] |
copumpkin | (most likely :P) | [18:23] |
jcpham | banned from where? here? | [18:23] |
hexu | yea | [18:23] |
hexu | see his troll like 30min ago | [18:23] |
* | jcpham scrolls | [18:24] |
imsaguy2 | um | [18:24] |
imsaguy2 | ;;seen gigavps | [18:24] |
* | dserrano5 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | [18:24] |
imsaguy2 | [18:24] | |
hexu | ok 1 hour havent counted minutes here :P | [18:24] |
jcpham | it was over an hour ago and drugs were involved | [18:25] |
* | fimp (~fimp@c-76-126-242-43.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:25] |
imsaguy2 | ah yes | [18:25] |
imsaguy2 | unsolicited pms | [18:25] |
imsaguy2 | SR talk | [18:25] |
hexu | read why they were involved | [18:25] |
gfinn | why? | [18:26] |
rg | happy to say i just pissed off a bunch of CBS lawyers | [18:26] |
rg | http://fuck-dmca.rapeghost.com/manager/The.Good.Wife.S03E13.HDTV.XviD-LOL.avi | [18:26] |
rg | lets see them shutoff that. | [18:26] |
hexu | [17:28] |
[18:26] |
* | DeLorean731 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [18:26] |
hexu | only reason i can figure is trolling to get me banned | [18:27] |
copumpkin | hexu: unsolicited PMs are shady in any situation | [18:27] |
smickles | i feel like that's a stretch hexu | [18:27] |
* | kW_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [18:27] |
copumpkin | hexu: then when someone sends you an unsolicited PM about drugs that's even shadier for people who want nothing to do with them | [18:28] |
jcpham | i have no comment. i did read the conversation | [18:28] |
hexu | not about drugs | [18:28] |
copumpkin | either way | [18:28] |
gfinn | hexu: it's not ok in private chat if he asks you not to | [18:28] |
copumpkin | it's not a personal grudge | [18:28] |
gfinn | that's why | [18:28] |
jjjrmy | rg: you got a DMCA takedown? | [18:28] |
hexu | he asked why i need money i messaged him private for silkroad | [18:28] |
hexu | he flooded it here even tho not suposed to talk about sr here at all | [18:28] |
jcpham | he called you out as an annoyance | [18:28] |
hexu | gfinn;: he didnt ask me not to | [18:28] |
hexu | he asked me to TELL HIM | [18:29] |
gfinn | i'm talking *continuing* to talk about it after he asked you not to | [18:29] |
gfinn | *about | [18:29] |
smickles | hexTech, i think he posted it publicly to deny that he was soliciting info about drugs | [18:29] |
hexu | i never did continue about "it" someone else kept taking it up | [18:29] |
gfinn | i see no problem with your initially sending him the msg since he did ask you. that is correct | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | what drama... | [18:29] |
hexu | thats right i dont know why people care so much | [18:29] |
* | Frank90 (acad023e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.173.2.62) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:29] |
hexu | call the carepolice | [18:30] |
jcpham | i'll donate .05 for a +10 rating | [18:30] |
hexu | dont think anyone will do that :D | [18:30] |
gfinn | hexu: what's their phone number? | [18:30] |
hexu | depends where u live:) | [18:30] |
* | eldnord (~eldnord@ti0071a380-dhcp4400.bb.online.no) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:30] |
jjjrmy | so uhhh, buy my 6850 | [18:30] |
helo | ;;rate jcpham 10 ham tastes great | [18:31] |
Frank90 | Hello, I have some unwanted gift cards for sell. Home Depot, Banana Republic and Old Navy. Might be usefull for people from US or even for some who buyes them from me to sell them on ebay etc. Because i dont need them I can make good discount. | [18:31] |
hexu | [18:31] | |
gfinn | hexu: so why are you still talking about it? | [18:32] |
jjjrmy | ;;sell | [18:32] |
hexu | shh now | [18:32] |
smickles | .o twitter shitlukejrsays | [18:33] |
markac | "I will do anything in my power to abolish Public Schools." ~ Luke-jr (@shitlukejrsays) | [18:33] |
smickles | :D | [18:33] |
mircea_popescu | is this before or after the btc hits 25 ? | [18:33] |
luke-jr | markac: ironically, that's not even a real quote | [18:34] |
jcpham | oh shit | [18:34] |
jcpham | is there a twitter | [18:34] |
jcpham | for lukejr | [18:34] |
EasyAt | Thats a good quote | [18:34] |
jcpham | yay | [18:34] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:35] |
jjjrmy | luke-jr: yes it was, I remember you saying it in #eligius | [18:35] |
Frank90 | anyone here from US? I need a partner to start a business. | [18:35] |
smickles | Frank90, yes | [18:36] |
luke-jr | jjjrmy: I wouldn't have capitalized public schools | [18:36] |
jjjrmy | you used them [public schools] | [18:36] |
smickles | lol, jcpham i have a suspition that you may have just followed me on the twitter | [18:37] |
smickles | er, suspicion | [18:37] |
jcpham | shut your mouth ;p | [18:37] |
smickles | i'll be sure to use it more often now. | [18:37] |
jcpham | does anyone really "use" twitter | [18:38] |
jcpham | i think not | [18:38] |
* | blaeks has quit (Quit: Leaving) | [18:38] |
jjjrmy | jcpham: I do. | [18:39] |
hexu | gfinn; only reason i kept talking is because someone asked me why the rating | [18:41] |
imsaguy2 | that quote is EvanR's | [18:42] |
* | DeLorean731 (~X@67.51.221.42) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:42] |
* | Skooma121 (4772003f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.114.0.63) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:45] |
Skooma121 | Hey guys | [18:45] |
* | Gaglia has quit (Quit: Gaglia) | [18:45] |
blognewb | whew | [18:47] |
Hunner | Why is the expected clearing date on Dwolla 5 days in the future? | [18:50] |
* | phraust has quit (Quit: phraust) | [18:50] |
Hunner | (for a payment) | [18:51] |
phantomcircuit | because it takes them 5 days | [18:51] |
* | Skooma121 has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [18:52] |
Hunner | Wow, that's slow... and here I thought electronic transactions were supposed to be faster. | [18:52] |
* | lethu has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | [18:52] |
* | lethu (~Naskingar@41.251.111.194) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:53] |
* | lethu has quit (Changing host) | [18:53] |
* | lethu (~Naskingar@unaffiliated/lethu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:53] |
* | yossarian_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [18:55] |
rg | just got aother DMCA warning | [18:56] |
rg | LOL | [18:56] |
rg | its not even hosted on their server anymore | [18:56] |
* | phraust (~PhraustBy@50-73-43-138-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:56] |
* | phraust has quit (Changing host) | [18:56] |
* | phraust (~PhraustBy@unaffiliated/phraust) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:56] |
* | mb300sd has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [18:57] |
* | DeLorean731 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) | [18:57] |
rg | oh man im fired up now | [18:57] |
EasyAt | they are fast | [18:57] |
rg | well its none of their business | [18:57] |
rg | its not hosted on their servers anymore | [18:57] |
rg | so them sending me an email is completely unwarranted | [18:58] |
blognewb | is facebook down? | [18:58] |
* | mb300sd (~mb300sd@184.22.52.228) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:58] |
* | phraust_ (~phraustby@unaffiliated/phraust) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [18:58] |
EasyAt | How do they know? the metadata? I doubt they are using CV to check if the images look like a particular episode | [18:58] |
rg | nah | [18:58] |
rg | CBS is watching the forum | [18:58] |
rg | and i just posteda FUCK YOU CBS | [18:58] |
rg | with a new link | [18:58] |
rg | somewhere they cant touch | [18:58] |
EasyAt | They are extraditing people from over seas now | [18:59] |
EasyAt | somehow | [18:59] |
Frank90 | Hello, I have some unwanted gift cards for sell. Home Depot, Banana Republic and Old Navy. Might be usefull for people from US or even for some who buyes them from me to sell them on ebay etc. Because i dont need them I can make good discount. | [18:59] |
EasyAt | Frank, put them on the order book | [18:59] |
* | MoPac (~MoPac@gateway/tor-sasl/mopac) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:00] |
* | phraust has quit (Client Quit) | [19:00] |
* | phraust_ is now known as phraust | [19:00] |
* | phraust is now known as Phraust | [19:00] |
* | BlueMatt (~matt@unaffiliated/bluematt) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:01] |
* | ChanServ gives voice to BlueMatt | [19:01] |
* | Toxo (~myident@soho85-114.sohonet.co.uk) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:01] |
* | Phraust has quit (Client Quit) | [19:01] |
Toxo | hi, anyone wanna buy any bit coins | [19:01] |
* | phraust (~phraustby@unaffiliated/phraust) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:01] |
Seventoes | how many you got? | [19:01] |
Toxo | 43 | [19:01] |
Seventoes | i'll buy 5 at $5.50 | [19:02] |
Toxo | buy 40 at $5 | [19:03] |
Seventoes | i don't have that much money lol | [19:03] |
EasyAt | shit | [19:03] |
EasyAt | If i was at home I def. would | [19:03] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | Toxo U in Aus? | [19:03] |
* | woland (~woland@2607:f2f8:4280::2) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:03] |
EasyAt | All I have is mt. gox here | [19:03] |
Seventoes | i'll buy 6 at $5 | [19:03] |
* | msood90 (83c105cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.193.5.203) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:04] |
EasyAt | Do you accept dwolla? | [19:04] |
Toxo | yes | [19:04] |
* | rdonohoe has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [19:04] |
* | Burgundy (burgundy@86.127.135.200) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:05] |
* | BlueMatt has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | [19:05] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | Toxo was that yes to dwolla or Aus? | [19:05] |
rg | wow my host is thick in the skull | [19:05] |
Toxo | im in the UK | [19:05] |
rg | they emailed me complaining that I hosted it elsewhere | [19:05] |
rg | so again i told them | [19:05] |
rg | none of it is hosted at thier DC | [19:05] |
rg | which makes it NONE of their concern | [19:06] |
Seventoes | lolol | [19:06] |
Seventoes | who are they? | [19:06] |
* | ras_ (ras@1404ds7-od.0.fullrate.dk) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:06] |
* | gribble gives voice to Bigpiggy01Mining | [19:06] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | rg that a torrent? | [19:07] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | U want it seeded from China? | [19:07] |
Toxo | ill sell 40 bitcoins for $190 | [19:07] |
EasyAt | Toxo why dont you just sell on gox | [19:07] |
EasyAt | just curious | [19:07] |
Toxo | Im not sure how | [19:07] |
Hunner | Toxo: I'd do 40, but my dwolla hasn't gone through yet... | [19:07] |
Toxo | i got some bitcoins to buy a handgun but it fell through | [19:08] |
* | Valalvax has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [19:08] |
rg | no Bigpiggy | [19:08] |
* | Valalvax (~Valalvax@adsl-72-152-179-153.asm.bellsouth.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:08] |
phraust | How do I withdraw coins from ragecoin? | [19:08] |
EasyAt | Or by my $200 Lowes Giftcard with them | [19:08] |
rg | its a HTTP download link | [19:08] |
* | hngryhngryhippo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [19:08] |
rg | and the laywers are PISSED | [19:08] |
Seventoes | phraust: afaik ragecoin isn't live yet | [19:08] |
rg | lol | [19:08] |
EasyAt | lol | [19:08] |
phraust | Poo | [19:08] |
EasyAt | 120 for a gun? | [19:08] |
EasyAt | do they mail it to you | [19:08] |
* | Snapman has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | [19:08] |
phraust | But I'v already put in some BTC | [19:08] |
EasyAt | sorry 200* | [19:08] |
* | Maroni (~user@091-141-043-227.dyn.orange.at) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:08] |
Toxo | who uses silkroad | [19:09] |
EasyAt | oh no | [19:09] |
Hunner | EasyAt: Must be an LPC :P | [19:09] |
Hunner | LCP* | [19:09] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | Toxo you got an aussie bank account? I can do you AUD from WBX @ 5.2 | [19:09] |
Toxo | no afraid not | [19:09] |
* | Snapman (~Snapman@c-67-181-137-26.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:10] |
* | foggyb (~Jordan@static-173-212-129-1.ptr.terago.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:10] |
* | yossarian_ (~john@g225045057.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:10] |
foggyb | gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:be73931ec0933eb5aac2981dfc735e0627ca51a25bb1bbd1604135ca | [19:10] |
EasyAt | LCP? the polymer stuff? | [19:11] |
* | jakr (~nofreewil@unaffiliated/jakr) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:11] |
smickles | ;;eauth | [19:11] |
Hunner | Well, was juth the first mousegun that came to mind | [19:11] |
* | occulta has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) | [19:12] |
* | EasyAt is now known as EasyAt| | [19:12] |
jcpham | rg when everyone else turns you away, I'll host you | [19:13] |
foggyb | ok this is my 2nd try with OTC registration, and im stuck again | [19:13] |
jcpham | sup frogi | [19:13] |
jcpham | foggyb | [19:13] |
foggyb | hi | [19:13] |
jcpham | what's the malfuction? | [19:13] |
smickles | did you forget the leading ;; | [19:13] |
jcpham | yes, he did | [19:13] |
foggyb | i am up to the code with: ;;gpg everify | [19:13] |
smickles | [19:13] | |
smickles | [19:13] | |
foggyb | yes, but i did it again in gribble private chat | [19:14] |
jcpham | you can speak to gribble in a pm without the ;; | [19:14] |
smickles | oh | [19:14] |
jcpham | or you can prefix your commands with ;; in channel | [19:14] |
foggyb | and gribble said: - Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter). | [19:14] |
smickles | what about using just 'everify' w/o the 'gpg' | [19:14] |
jcpham | first it is ;;eauth | [19:14] |
jcpham | then it is ;;everify | [19:14] |
phantomcircuit | Toxo, apparently a lot of people there forum has thousands of posts | [19:15] |
foggyb | um i think i already eauth | [19:15] |
* | Braundro (~Brawndo@134.99.194.29) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:16] |
jcpham | eauth gives you a link to d/l | [19:16] |
jcpham | a gpg key | [19:16] |
phantomcircuit | s/there/their/ | [19:16] |
foggyb | i already got one | [19:16] |
foggyb | and i decrypted it with cryptophane | [19:16] |
jcpham | i don't know what cryptophane is | [19:17] |
foggyb | gui gpg | [19:17] |
jcpham | oic | [19:17] |
* | EasyAt| has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | [19:17] |
foggyb | ok so now i have a gpg file with the freenode line in it | [19:17] |
* | DamascusVG|afk has quit (Quit: I Quit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p97zsQ51Rw) | [19:17] |
jcpham | wget -q -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C71FB5ED6ACE04AF | gpg -q --output - --decrypt | [19:18] |
jcpham | is how i do it | [19:18] |
* | hngryhngryhippo (~hngryhngr@pool-71-191-150-126.washdc.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:18] |
jcpham | ;;gpg info foggyb | [19:18] |
* | Shaded (~Shaded@unaffiliated/shaded) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:19] |
[Manic] | foggy: /msg gribble ;;everify the freenode line | [19:19] |
foggyb | i did | [19:19] |
foggyb | it doesnt work | [19:19] |
[Manic] | what did it say? | [19:20] |
foggyb | Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter). | [19:20] |
foggyb | nothing else | [19:20] |
[Manic] | you using mirc? | [19:22] |
foggyb | pidgin | [19:22] |
* | jcpham (~boing@porngo.at) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Leaving") | [19:23] |
* | jcpham (~boing@porngo.at) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:23] |
foggyb | arrrrrgh | [19:23] |
[Manic] | gribble said that verify the latest... when you did ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:whatever | [19:23] |
[Manic] | ? | [19:23] |
foggyb | no it did not say verify | [19:24] |
* | gribble gives voice to jcpham | [19:24] |
foggyb | it only printed the statement above | [19:24] |
* | je_fro has quit (Quit: Leaving) | [19:24] |
jcpham | it changes each time | [19:24] |
[Manic] | thats the one i meant | [19:24] |
jcpham | the everify response | [19:24] |
jcpham | i just tested the bot | [19:24] |
foggyb | Manic: no, it does not verify | [19:25] |
[Manic] | try doing the ;;euth foggyb again, get your otp from the link, decrypt it, and do ;;everify with the line from the decrypted otp | [19:25] |
foggyb | k | [19:26] |
pigeons | happy birthday vragnaroda! I feel like frosty the snowman | [19:27] |
imsaguy2 | it was 8 on the way to work | [19:27] |
pirateat40 | Morning | [19:27] |
foggyb | Manic: when gpg asks for passphrase, what is it looking for? | [19:27] |
foggyb | my irc pw? | [19:28] |
foggyb | [Manic]: | [19:28] |
[Manic] | the password you used when you created the key | [19:29] |
* | EasyAt (~easyat@dhcp-vlan3242-31-38.wireless.uic.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:29] |
* | devrandom has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | [19:31] |
Optimo | lol wtf happened | [19:31] |
Optimo | been away a few days | [19:32] |
* | kW_ (~kW@82.113.121.211) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:32] |
* | elephant_ (5f7b807b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.123.128.123) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:32] |
elephant_ | hi | [19:33] |
gigavps | hi elephant_ | [19:34] |
Frank90 | Hello, I have some unwanted gift cards for sell. Home Depot, Banana Republic and Old Navy. Might be usefull for people from US or even for some who buyes them from me to sell them on ebay etc. Because i dont need them I can make good discount. | [19:34] |
phantomcircuit | dont mind me asking | [19:35] |
phantomcircuit | how did you get them | [19:35] |
phantomcircuit | and why are you using aol?? | [19:35] |
Frank90 | some client pays me regular with this type of cards. | [19:36] |
Frank90 | is there a problem because i use aol? | [19:36] |
Frank90 | i shoulnt use? | [19:36] |
foggyb | [Manic]: Error: Could not find a pending authentication request from your hostmask. Either it expired, or you changed hostmask, or you haven't made one. | [19:36] |
foggyb | i got the room name wrong earlier, forgot the '-' | [19:37] |
foggyb | does this mean i have to start over? | [19:37] |
* | BTC_Bear|hbrntng is now known as BTC_Bear | [19:37] |
phantomcircuit | Frank90, dont mind me it's just standard practice here to give people the fifth degree | [19:37] |
[Manic] | just from the eauth part, do you have wget on your system? | [19:38] |
phantomcircuit | (a hard time) | [19:38] |
foggyb | [Manic] win32 here | [19:38] |
foggyb | so u want me to re-auth my key? | [19:38] |
Frank90 | phantomcircuit:, I know I am new here, so isnt any problem for me to send first the codes so you can check them on their website to see their balance. | [19:39] |
foggyb | i use gui of gpg app | [19:39] |
* | bitfoo (~bitfoo@titian.usc.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:39] |
[Manic] | there is a wget that works on win32 | [19:39] |
foggyb | called crypophane - i sent the key to the server successfuly earlier | [19:40] |
foggyb | cryptophane | [19:40] |
* | hexu has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [19:41] |
foggyb | ok i have wget | [19:41] |
foggyb | what should i do ? | [19:41] |
[Manic] | do you have gpg.exe? | [19:41] |
foggyb | yes | [19:42] |
[Manic] | k | [19:42] |
* | msood90 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [19:43] |
* | Frank90 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [19:44] |
elephant_ | hi im new to the whole bitcoin thing. i have a couple of questions | [19:44] |
pigeons | No, and No | [19:45] |
* | devrandom (~devrandom@gateway/tor-sasl/niftyzero1) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:45] |
foggyb | [Manic] how do i include my passphrase in the command> | [19:45] |
foggyb | ? | [19:45] |
elephant_ | is the wallet ''physical''? i dont mean literally of course but i've seen people talking about storing the wallet in a usb | [19:45] |
foggyb | 'decryption failed. secret key not avaialble | [19:45] |
pigeons | wallet is mostly a file with private keys and transactions and addresses | [19:45] |
[Manic] | i think it will prompt you | [19:45] |
elephant_ | isnt it just a ''link'' with info about your transactions and number of bits | [19:45] |
pigeons | no your private keys are in there | [19:46] |
elephant_ | okok thanks | [19:46] |
pigeons | you lose those you cant access the money | [19:46] |
* | DamascusVG|afk (~BESommer@adsl-99-91-41-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:46] |
elephant_ | and sorry for sounding stupid but wth are the private keys? | [19:47] |
* | EasyAt| (~easy@64.244.204.2) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:47] |
elephant_ | the adress for receiving bitcoins? | [19:47] |
pigeons | https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Address | [19:47] |
pigeons | the key mainly allows you to spend from that address | [19:48] |
* | BlueMatt (~matt@unaffiliated/bluematt) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:49] |
* | ChanServ gives voice to BlueMatt | [19:49] |
* | blaeks (~blaeks@cable-178-148-14-1.dynamic.sbb.rs) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:50] |
elephant_ | ok thanks man, btw what exchage sites doo you recomend | [19:50] |
pigeons | what country claims you? | [19:51] |
pigeons | mtgox has the highest volume | [19:51] |
blaeks | and was hacked | [19:51] |
elephant_ | portugal at the moment | [19:51] |
blaeks | fyi | [19:51] |
pigeons | intersango has no direct trading fees | [19:51] |
* | ras_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [19:52] |
* | hexu (596a2624@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.106.38.36) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:53] |
elephant_ | and how should i buy btc? pay pal? | [19:53] |
pigeons | there is a brazilian exchange that's been around "a while" in bitcoin terms, don'know if you have anything in common with brazil other than language | [19:54] |
pigeons | nope bank transfer to the exchange | [19:54] |
* | DeLorean731 (~X@67.51.221.42) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:54] |
smickles | or make an arrangement with a trusted party | [19:54] |
pigeons | it will be very hard to find a legit bitcoin seller who will accept your paypal, because the seller risks losing it all up to months later from chargeback | [19:55] |
pigeons | but any thing else you can think of can probably be arranged, and probably here | [19:55] |
UukGoblin | http://stats.grok.se/en/201201/Bitcoin | [19:55] |
UukGoblin | that didn't take long... | [19:55] |
* | bitfoo has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [19:55] |
UukGoblin | dropped by a half... | [19:56] |
UukGoblin | AH! cause it's blocked! :-> | [19:56] |
UukGoblin | is it? | [19:56] |
UukGoblin | or was it for yesterday | [19:56] |
UukGoblin | hrm | [19:56] |
UukGoblin | yeah yesterday was half of what it was on monday | [19:56] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Leaving") | [19:57] |
* | tandy80 (~tandy80@soy95-6-88-168-57-145.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [19:57] |
* | EasyAt has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [19:58] |
smickles | rally??!! | [19:58] |
phantomcircuit | http://www.mpaa.org/templates/images/rogue_03.jpg | [19:59] |
phantomcircuit | lol | [19:59] |
phantomcircuit | are they serious | [19:59] |
* | Frank90 (acad023e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.173.2.62) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:00] |
smickles | what's that supposed to be an image of? what's the message? | [20:01] |
smickles | ^ phantomcircuit | [20:01] |
* | gigavps is now known as gigavpsOTP | [20:01] |
tbage | black dudes | [20:01] |
tbage | having a great time | [20:01] |
tbage | because the RIAA is great for black people | [20:01] |
* | MORA| (~MORA@87-104-15-66-dynamic-customer.profibernet.dk) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:01] |
tbage | they're all dressed 'street as fuck' | [20:02] |
* | hexu_ (596a2624@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.106.38.36) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:02] |
tbage | probably chirpin' on their phones too | [20:02] |
* | tandy80 (~tandy80@soy95-6-88-168-57-145.fbx.proxad.net) has left #bitcoin-otc | [20:02] |
* | rb___ (d07f4be7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.127.75.231) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:02] |
phantomcircuit | smickles, more or less what tbage said | [20:03] |
tbage | s/riaa/mpaa | [20:03] |
phantomcircuit | the entire site is STOP STEALING FROM MINORITIES | [20:03] |
phantomcircuit | which is weird | [20:03] |
* | kW_ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | [20:04] |
smickles | i get a weird 'divide and conquer' vibe from this 'minorities' idea | [20:04] |
* | hexu has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:05] |
* | someguytest has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:05] |
* | Frank90 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:06] |
* | shhorn11 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:06] |
* | xp has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:06] |
* | elephant_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:06] |
copumpkin | Mqrius: looks like my parents got the first 750 :) | [20:07] |
* | jakr (~nofreewil@unaffiliated/jakr) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Leaving") | [20:07] |
* | hexu_ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:07] |
pirateat40 | Woot! | [20:07] |
* | gigavps (~jamesgibs@219.94.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:08] |
rawrmage | nice pingouts | [20:08] |
* | rb___ has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) | [20:08] |
* | elephant_ (5f7b807b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.123.128.123) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:08] |
elephant_ | if i lose the wallet file, but still know or have the address written, how would i recover the bitcoins?, if i added that adress to a new wallet would that restore it? | [20:10] |
pirateat40 | no | [20:10] |
pirateat40 | You need the keys | [20:10] |
pigeons | nope, you would be "screwed" | [20:10] |
pigeons | address is similar to a public key | [20:10] |
pigeons | well i better not make bad analogies | [20:11] |
copumpkin | elephant_: if knowing an address would be sufficient, I could steal your money | [20:11] |
copumpkin | *were | [20:11] |
copumpkin | dammit | [20:11] |
* | gribble gives voice to [Manic] | [20:11] |
elephant_ | yeah didnt think that through, so where do i find the keys? | [20:11] |
* | Woundead (~Miranda@c-19d8e455.016-568-73746f2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:12] |
pigeons | you can use tools such as "pywallet" to extract them | [20:12] |
copumpkin | elephant_: well, depending on how you lost it, you might not be able to | [20:12] |
pigeons | just backup your wallet file early and often and you're hopefully good | [20:12] |
* | reith (~reith@unaffiliated/reith) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:13] |
reith | Could someone sell me some bitcoins? I will pay using PayPal | [20:13] |
* | Acciaio (~Acciaio@gateway/tor-sasl/acciaio) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:13] |
pigeons | elephant_: read through the wiki, most of those articles are pretty good https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_wallet | [20:14] |
smickles | reith, paypal is too risky for me :( | [20:14] |
elephant_ | thankss | [20:14] |
gigavps | reith that will probably not happen. Are you in the US? | [20:15] |
reith | smickles: could you suggest me a exchanger to exchange my PayPals to Liberty? | [20:15] |
reith | smickles: then will pay using LR | [20:16] |
* | bitfoo (~bitfoo@titian.usc.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:16] |
reith | gigavps: no, I come from Iran | [20:16] |
* | Clonedead has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) | [20:16] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | WTF happened to that market alert app on the forum? | [20:16] |
smickles | reith, sorry, i'm not familiar with LR. | [20:16] |
gigavps | reith, wow, cool | [20:16] |
reith | so how you buy bitcoins?! :( | [20:17] |
pigeons | send money from your bank, send cash, send hard product, but not reversible paypal or reversible credit cards | [20:18] |
smickles | reith, in the past, i have used dwolla to move money on to mtgox and bought btc there | [20:18] |
pigeons | no dwolla in iran | [20:18] |
reith | smickles: thanks for suggestions. | [20:18] |
reith | I will try online exchangers | [20:18] |
pigeons | be careful, good luck | [20:19] |
smickles | pigeons, i figured, but i thought he asked me a direct (personal) question | [20:19] |
pigeons | k | [20:19] |
elephant_ | dont really get what the password encryption does | [20:19] |
* | kW_ (~kW@port-92-206-38-186.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:19] |
smickles | makes it a little more difficult for someone to steal your wallet | [20:20] |
* | blaeks has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) | [20:21] |
helo | anyone selling below $6USD? | [20:22] |
Joric | this one is funny http://thedailywtf.com | [20:22] |
pirateat40 | 5.99 | [20:22] |
smickles | Joric, the market could move $2 by the time i finish reading that | [20:23] |
gigavps | lol -> We can only hope that our legislators introduce common sense guidelines to ban HTTP (and HTML/JavaScript) as well so we can all return to the more sensible GOPHER standard. | [20:24] |
jcpham | gigavps you cannot be trusted anymore | [20:24] |
* | niko has quit (Ping timeout: 624 seconds) | [20:25] |
gigavps | jcpham: what did i do now? | [20:25] |
jcpham | you like chase people away and call their mother's dirty names | [20:25] |
jcpham | or something like that ;p | [20:25] |
gigavps | jcpham: don't ask for free bitcoins to buy things on SR, simple | [20:26] |
jcpham | we all thought he was a shithead too | [20:26] |
jcpham | do you have MTGOX money for PP to sell? | [20:27] |
gigavps | hehe | [20:27] |
phraust | Rage coin is fun, any idea when it'll go live? | [20:28] |
* | fridgee6 (~asdf@129-97-247-126.uwaterloo.ca) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:28] |
* | gribble gives voice to gigavps | [20:28] |
phraust | Or "if", I guess. | [20:28] |
* | traviscj has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [20:29] |
Joric | phraust, the chance of winning is way too high atm | [20:29] |
phraust | Indeed. | [20:29] |
phraust | Im at 250k atm. | [20:30] |
* | lethu has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | [20:30] |
elephant_ | If i want to back up the wallet which files should i copy? and when i do how would i restore the wallet if i lost the one in my pc | [20:30] |
* | lethu (~Naskingar@unaffiliated/lethu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:30] |
smickles | aw, are those not real withdraw codes? | [20:31] |
smickles | ^ RE ragecoin | [20:32] |
sturles | I just read the thread with the bragging idiot who lost all his money a minute or so after posting. How is it possible to be that stupid and have any money at all? | [20:32] |
sturles | Perhaps borrowed on a credit card or something at 25% interest? How incredibly retarded! | [20:33] |
Joric | sturles, url? | [20:33] |
* | Buglouse (~Buglouse@cpe-65-28-172-255.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:33] |
pigeons | i know sturles, very funny! | [20:34] |
sturles | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=59969.msg698387#msg698387 | [20:34] |
Joric | how come he didn't close the position at 200% | [20:34] |
Joric | must be incredibly greedy | [20:35] |
sturles | Greedy AND retarded. | [20:35] |
Joric | [12:16] |
[20:36] |
Joric | on #bitcoin | [20:36] |
sturles | :-D | [20:36] |
* | sturles stays away from Bitcoinica. | [20:36] |
* | gribble gives voice to phraust | [20:37] |
Joric | maybe it's good old allinvain | [20:37] |
* | teslacoil404 (~teslacoil@host244-221-dynamic.3-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:37] |
* | gribble gives voice to teslacoil404 | [20:37] |
pirateat40 | But he doesn't care about money. | [20:37] |
pirateat40 | Maybe he can send me some. | [20:37] |
phraust | wasn't allinvain the guy who got a bunch stolen? | [20:38] |
sturles | Yes. The guy on the forum is not allinvain. | [20:38] |
phraust | ah. | [20:38] |
sturles | Allinvain has some brains. I doubt the guy who bragged is capable of opening a door without help. | [20:39] |
* | pimputti (~pimputti@ks212050.kimsufi.com) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:39] |
* | paraipan has quit (Quit: Saliendo) | [20:39] |
gigavps | lol, never show your hand! | [20:39] |
gigavps | he got was he deserved for bragging | [20:39] |
* | reith has quit (Quit: leaving) | [20:40] |
pirateat40 | yea, for 7 years of trading experience... that was dumb. | [20:41] |
Joric | drive the market using your photoshop skills! | [20:41] |
* | paraipan (~paraipan@gateway/tor-sasl/paraipanakos) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:44] |
mb300sd | hey pirateat40, i've been meaning to ask, how does one withdraw from your lending service? | [20:45] |
mb300sd | not that i need to right now | [20:45] |
pirateat40 | It explained it in the PM i sent with your info | [20:45] |
mb300sd | ok, thanks :) | [20:46] |
pirateat40 | :) | [20:46] |
* | nelisky (~nelisky@unaffiliated/nelisky-/x-0749711) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:49] |
Mango-chan | STOP SOAP AND PIPE!! | [20:50] |
gigavps | Mango-chan: i smoke cigars and do not shower, so i'm good | [20:52] |
* | Toxo has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [20:52] |
* | traviscj (~traviscj@wireless-165-124-128-45.nuwlan.northwestern.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:52] |
UukGoblin | pipa in polish means cunt | [20:53] |
* | BlueMatt has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [20:53] |
* | nelisky has quit (Client Quit) | [20:53] |
pigeons | dip some copenhagen if you wanna snuff 'em out | [20:53] |
Bigpiggy01Mining | Hmmm it's also a fairly oderous fruit and a traditional Chinese guitar like instrument | [20:54] |
* | elephant_ has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [20:54] |
* | loca (54862a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.134.42.92) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:55] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:58] |
* | BlueMatt (~matt@unaffiliated/bluematt) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:58] |
* | ChanServ gives voice to BlueMatt | [20:58] |
* | Frank90 (acad023e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.172.173.2.62) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:58] |
* | traviscj has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | [20:59] |
vite | are there any non tech saavy people who would like a preconfigured cms deployed in exchange for bitcoins? | [20:59] |
* | EasyAt (~easyat@dhcp-193-5-48.wireless.uic.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [20:59] |
pigeons | drupal? | [21:00] |
vite | I can preinstall drupal | [21:01] |
pigeons | ;) | [21:01] |
* | traviscj (~traviscj@wireless-165-124-128-45.nuwlan.northwestern.edu) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:01] |
vite | I would deploy first send you the access info, and give you 24 h from deploy to send payment before site is taken down | [21:01] |
jcpham | i think drupal has a mining plugin now? | [21:01] |
jcpham | maybe twitter told me this yesterday | [21:02] |
pigeons | i dont need it vite, was just curious, but good luck | [21:03] |
jcpham | i'll do it for 100btc | [21:03] |
jcpham | vite | [21:03] |
vite | thanks pigeons | [21:04] |
pigeons | if you can keep other peoples' django stuff working well maybe we can talk | [21:04] |
jcpham | today i'm only requiring a %25 up-front payment | [21:04] |
vite | jcphan: yes? | [21:04] |
* | foggyb2 (~W7@static-173-212-129-1.ptr.terago.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:05] |
jcpham | amazon mechanical turk may be the place | [21:05] |
* | DamascusVG|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | [21:05] |
pierce | jcpham: you write drupal plugins? | [21:05] |
jcpham | no way jose | [21:05] |
jcpham | but i can deploy a drupal cms | [21:05] |
* | ineededausername (600af633@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.10.246.51) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:05] |
jcpham | for 100 bitcoins | [21:05] |
pierce | ha | [21:06] |
weex | i'll deploy your drupal for 200 bitcoins! | [21:06] |
pierce | 300, and that's my final offer | [21:06] |
weex | sold! | [21:06] |
pierce | whoop! | [21:07] |
Joric | may i liquidate bitcoinica position at any time despite if there is a reserve or not? | [21:07] |
pirateat40 | Yes | [21:07] |
vite | I deploy and host wordpress, drupal, joomla etc for 1 btc a year, | [21:07] |
pirateat40 | No Reserve is only for new positions | [21:07] |
* | loca has quit (Quit: Page closed) | [21:08] |
weex | vite, i'm going to have a script soon that I'll need to have installed, i would pay you 1btc to install it as a test...no need to host it for a year... interested? requires bitcoind | [21:09] |
vite | hosting can be own domain or subdomain, 1 unique ftp account | [21:09] |
* | DamascusVG|afk (~BESommer@adsl-99-91-41-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:09] |
vite | weex: ok sounds like a plan | [21:09] |
pigeons | vite: if we have to ask about bandwidth and cpu/mem limits I suppose we're in the wrong place? | [21:09] |
weex | vite: pm me an email address and I'll send it to you when it's ready for a test | [21:09] |
* | kW_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | [21:12] |
vite | weex: I asked you a question on pm | [21:13] |
Joric | did zhou just add 'account size cap'? http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6476/screenshot2012011901132.png | [21:14] |
imsaguy2 | yep | [21:14] |
* | DamascusVG|afk has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | [21:16] |
* | ichbeenkaputen (~vm7@212.7.208.87) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:18] |
* | DamascusVG|afk (~BESommer@adsl-99-91-41-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:21] |
* | rdonohoe (b03d3d79@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.61.61.121) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:22] |
* | roman3x (~roman3x@bband-dyn66.95-103-251.t-com.sk) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:23] |
* | ras_ (~ras@1404ds7-od.0.fullrate.dk) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:25] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has left #bitcoin-otc ("Leaving") | [21:27] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:29] |
* | marty (~marty2@gateway/tor-sasl/neo2) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:30] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has left #bitcoin-otc | [21:31] |
* | vite (~vialnetwo@201.224.134.245) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:33] |
rdonohoe | I thought there'd be more people looking to buy coins with PP in here | [21:35] |
smickles | they come thru often rdonohoe | [21:35] |
vite | rdonohe: I am trying to sell a service for btc but everyone is too tech saavy to need my srv lol | [21:36] |
smickles | i think that the ppl who want to buy btc w/ pp often find no one wants to take on the risk | [21:37] |
* | [eval] (alex@pool-173-53-79-234.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) has joined #bitcoin-otc | [21:37] |
rdonohoe | Yeah, perhaps that's it. I have an sell order open for some coins and sold some already. Just needed some PP to pay for something on eBay. | [21:38] |
* | Shaded has quit (Quit: Shaded) | [21:39] |
Category: Logs