Forum logs for 18 Apr 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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MJR_ | good morning everyone | [12:24] |
kakobrekla | mornin | [12:25] |
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mircea_popescu | heya | [12:30] |
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Chaang-Noi | hi | [12:36] |
Chaang-Noi | btw seems dull lol | [12:36] |
Chaang-Noi | btc world seems dull i mean | [12:36] |
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kakobrekla | ITS OVER MAN! | [12:40] |
Chaang-Noi | the crazyness? | [12:46] |
Chaang-Noi | im okay with that for a while | [12:46] |
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MJR_ | whats over? | [12:57] |
kakobrekla | you know... | [12:57] |
kakobrekla | bitcoin | [12:57] |
MJR_ | lol | [12:58] |
MJR_ | crazy about bitfloor | [12:58] |
MJR_ | but bound to happen i guess | [12:58] |
mircea_popescu | MJR_ im resisting the urge to search through logs for me going "don't use bitfloor" at people. | [13:00] |
MJR_ | eh, it wasn't really a problem | [13:00] |
MJR_ | its the only exchange i've used | [13:00] |
MJR_ | everyone got their money out | [13:00] |
mircea_popescu | a, they paid out ? | [13:01] |
MJR_ | yes | [13:01] |
MJR_ | orderly unwinding | [13:01] |
MJR_ | i believe at the moment you can still withdraw using the site.. | [13:01] |
mircea_popescu | a that's nioce then | [13:01] |
MJR_ | though trading is done | [13:01] |
MJR_ | I am sorry to announce that due to circumstances outside of our control BitFloor must cease all trading operations indefinitely. Unfortunately, our US bank account is scheduled to be closed and we can no longer provide the same level of USD deposits and withdrawals as we have in the past. As such, I have made the decision to halt operations and return all funds. | [13:01] |
MJR_ | Over the next days we will be working with all clients to ensure that everyone receives their funds. Please be patient as we process your request. | [13:01] |
MJR_ | - Roman | [13:01] |
MJR_ | founder - bitfloor.com | [13:01] |
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MJR_ | there was a different announcement... | [13:02] |
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mircea_popescu | hm | [13:09] |
mircea_popescu | what of the people who were going to get repaid out of the exchange comissuion ? | [13:09] |
Chaang-Noi | i was wondering about that too | [13:11] |
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assbot | sorry took a nap. | [13:15] |
Scrat | it's ok, your punishment is 10 whips | [13:23] |
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assbot | ok, get in the asswhippin line | [13:23] |
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MJR_ | yeah not sure about them... | [13:27] |
MJR_ | i am going to talk to roman soon, i was texting with him | [13:27] |
MJR_ | and want to see if we can help him move offshore | [13:27] |
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kakobrekla | you think its worth saving bitfloor after all that happend there MJR_ | [13:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00070303 = 1.9685 BTC [+] | [13:28] |
kakobrekla | what does he have? | [13:28] |
kakobrekla | a name? yeah we know he fucked up | [13:29] |
kakobrekla | trust? no | [13:29] |
kakobrekla | a bank account? no | [13:29] |
kakobrekla | srsly? | [13:29] |
kakobrekla | maybe you are better off supporting TH wackos | [13:30] |
MJR_ | lol good point | [13:30] |
MJR_ | not supporting | [13:30] |
jurov | well.. same happened to gox, multiple times... and we are so not supporting it :D | [13:31] |
kakobrekla | jurov WE ARE NOT! | [13:32] |
mircea_popescu | jurov indeed we aren't. | [13:33] |
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kakobrekla | its just alternatives suck hard : | [13:34] |
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MJR_ | yeah | [13:37] |
MJR_ | i never said support | [13:37] |
MJR_ | i just said help | [13:37] |
troc | [13:37] | |
kakobrekla | ok but how is help not support | [13:38] |
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Chaang-Noi | why do i keep ping timeout? | [13:38] |
kakobrekla | if you help the nazis arent you supporting them? | [13:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11650 @ 0.00070303 = 8.1903 BTC [+] | [13:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7350 @ 0.00071248 = 5.2367 BTC [+] | [13:39] |
kakobrekla | but im not saying you shouldnt support roman | [13:39] |
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kakobrekla | do what you feel :) | [13:40] |
MJR_ | lol, good point | [13:40] |
MJR_ | i meant not financially support, but offer some advice and maybe help set some things up | [13:40] |
MJR_ | so for me that is a big difference | [13:40] |
kakobrekla | ok :) | [13:40] |
MJR_ | also, if you can get it back up again and retain customers, you could conceivably get a revenue share | [13:41] |
MJR_ | for whatever you did to get it back up again | [13:41] |
kakobrekla | AHA! | [13:41] |
kakobrekla | thats your evil plan then :D | [13:41] |
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jurov | well, btc to usd exchanges can fail many times and there will still be interest | [13:44] |
kakobrekla | ofc | [13:44] |
kakobrekla | iirc preetymuch everyone was capped out | [13:45] |
kakobrekla | in the last rally | [13:45] |
kakobrekla | meaning theres room | [13:45] |
jurov | unlike my bitfunder endeavors... mpoe bonds scared everyone | [13:45] |
kakobrekla | lol | [13:45] |
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jurov | and difficulty futures proll exhausted pool of BFLievers | [13:45] |
kakobrekla | loool | [13:45] |
kakobrekla | ah bfl | [13:46] |
kakobrekla | you should have some discount for them | [13:46] |
kakobrekla | poor fellas | [13:46] |
MJR_ | hehehe | [13:48] |
MJR_ | a guy in my office just preordered now | [13:48] |
MJR_ | i'm like "what?!?!?" | [13:48] |
KRS1 | Mine should be here any day...... | [13:48] |
kakobrekla | :o | [13:48] |
MJR_ | hehehe | [13:48] |
MJR_ | got 3 virtex 6's that i'm trying to get something going on...still | [13:48] |
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kakobrekla | its gonna be october for sure just not 2012 | [13:48] |
dub | ;;goxlag | [13:49] |
MJR_ | BFL shocks the world by actually shipping something in 2020 | [13:49] |
gribble | Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later. | [13:49] |
jurov | MJR_ can you show them https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-O ? | [13:49] |
MJR_ | after most people had already forgotten they were waiting | [13:49] |
jurov | just in case they want to hedge against difficulty skyrocketing ;) | [13:49] |
MJR_ | jurov: show who? | [13:49] |
kakobrekla | MJR_ but he paid a lot more than preorders for half the spec? | [13:49] |
kakobrekla | rofl | [13:50] |
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MJR_ | don't know what he paid...but i think he just likes to get hardware | [13:50] |
kakobrekla | 13:49.33 ( MJR_ ) after most people had already forgotten they were waiting | [13:50] |
MJR_ | he got the raspberry pi before that | [13:50] |
kakobrekla | like when you order stuff from DX | [13:50] |
kakobrekla | and get it 2 months later | [13:50] |
kakobrekla | "oohhh i forgot i ordered this what a nice suprise to self" | [13:50] |
MJR_ | jurov: ah ok, good idea | [13:50] |
MJR_ | aren't diffs too expensive? | [13:50] |
jurov | no, just lowered the offer from 0.19 to 0.16 | [13:51] |
MJR_ | ah ok | [13:51] |
MJR_ | cool | [13:51] |
jurov | it's a sale! | [13:51] |
MJR_ | i was going to say that i should map out the absolute upper bound of difficulty over the time period | [13:51] |
MJR_ | it can only go up by 4X | [13:51] |
MJR_ | every two weeks | [13:51] |
MJR_ | at most | [13:51] |
MJR_ | wait...take that back 4X every 2016 blocks | [13:52] |
jurov | nice, let me know... i'll write it into prospect | [13:52] |
MJR_ | oh eyah | [13:52] |
MJR_ | did you guys see on avalon? | [13:52] |
MJR_ | you can order 10k chips | [13:52] |
MJR_ | only like 781 btc | [13:52] |
MJR_ | 282Mh/s per chip | [13:56] |
MJR_ | ;;calc 282 * 10000 | [13:56] |
gribble | 2820000 | [13:56] |
MJR_ | 2 million megahashes | [13:57] |
MJR_ | almost 3 | [13:57] |
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bitesak | ;;bids 0 | [13:59] |
gribble | There are currently 53900872 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19947846.5096 USD in total. | Data vintage: 116.2202 seconds | [13:59] |
bitesak | roughly 3 million more than yesterday? | [13:59] |
troc | almost 20M, is that an ath ? | [13:59] |
bitesak | in my experience it is.. | [14:00] |
bitesak | ;;asks 260 | [14:00] |
gribble | There are currently 111956.4 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 16801704.7573 USD in total. | Data vintage: 22.0432 seconds | [14:00] |
MJR_ | lol if you could get all those chips up and running....you would make back your bitcoins in a week | [14:02] |
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MJR_ | very good deal for hardware people | [14:02] |
KRS1 | ;;eightball how long would it take to get all those chips up and running | [14:02] |
gribble | The answer is certainly yes. | [14:02] |
KRS1 | There you go.. | [14:02] |
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BitHub | bot down atm? | [14:09] |
dub | ;;genrate 2820000 | [14:11] |
gribble | Error: Failed to retrieve current block bounty. Try again later. | [14:12] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.33 BTC [+] | [14:20] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;ticker | [14:31] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 90.96450, Best ask: 90.99000, Bid-ask spread: 0.02550, Last trade: 90.99000, 24 hour volume: 269857.74349601, 24 hour low: 80.74999, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 90.37506 | [14:31] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.333 BTC [+] | [14:36] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [+] | [14:42] |
BitHub | thanks :) | [14:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00346247 = 2.4237 BTC [+] | [14:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20155 @ 0.00070162 = 14.1412 BTC [-] | [14:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00071041 = 13.853 BTC [+] | [14:52] |
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ThickAsThieves | hello | [15:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.17889 = 0.5367 BTC [-] | [15:04] |
savetheinternet | hi | [15:05] |
ThickAsThieves | rich in some ways, improving in others | [15:05] |
Chaang-Noi | yeah cognitive! | [15:07] |
Chaang-Noi | keep going up | [15:07] |
Chaang-Noi | go AM! | [15:07] |
Chaang-Noi | 1.333 is nice to see | [15:07] |
ThickAsThieves | things happen | [15:08] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;bids 50 | [15:08] |
gribble | There are currently 189993.3 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12716075.1439 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0064 seconds | [15:08] |
Chaang-Noi | i think d3 is going to be wrong.. i think we will see 500 before 50 | [15:08] |
Chaang-Noi | ;;asks 500 | [15:08] |
gribble | There are currently 131290.56 bitcoins offered at or under 500.0 USD, worth 23276051.5885 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.6232 seconds | [15:08] |
deadweasel | only 2.2mil to go! :D | [15:09] |
Chaang-Noi | you left out a 0 | [15:10] |
orkaa | good morning | [15:13] |
Chaang-Noi | hi | [15:14] |
ThickAsThieves | if you were a market maker, why might you post huge big walls from 60-80, and also ask walls under 100? | [15:14] |
ThickAsThieves | essentially holding price both higher and lower than it might go naturally? | [15:15] |
ThickAsThieves | two market makers at odds? | [15:15] |
Chaang-Noi | stabiliy is good | [15:17] |
Chaang-Noi | we found fair market priuce maybe | [15:17] |
ThickAsThieves | nah | [15:17] |
Chaang-Noi | but with 20 million usd on the books i dont think so | [15:17] |
ThickAsThieves | stability couldve happend at 70 | [15:17] |
Chaang-Noi | people just hope to get cheap coins | [15:17] |
Chaang-Noi | and they wont | [15:17] |
ThickAsThieves | but enormous bid walls propped it up | [15:17] |
Chaang-Noi | hell im happy if we stay here for a year | [15:18] |
Chaang-Noi | 93 is damn good for me | [15:18] |
Chaang-Noi | i sodl enough at $200 plus (my ltc) to live for a few years:) | [15:18] |
Chaang-Noi | yes, bids and asks in usd | [15:18] |
ThickAsThieves | orderbook is shown in coinds | [15:18] |
Sinbios | there's no "wall" under 100, just a bunch of people trying to sell | [15:18] |
Chaang-Noi | hell of a lot more bids than asks | [15:18] |
ThickAsThieves | but bid walls are indeed dollars | [15:18] |
ThickAsThieves | but chaang, | [15:19] |
ThickAsThieves | so many of those dollars are articial floors | [15:19] |
ThickAsThieves | someone is building something | [15:19] |
ThickAsThieves | this isnt a natural price | [15:19] |
Chaang-Noi | 175,000 coins to $50 | [15:19] |
Chaang-Noi | we will not see 50 for a while if ever | [15:19] |
Chaang-Noi | double bottem was tested | [15:20] |
ThickAsThieves | but why is that buyer propping price up, rather than buying? | [15:20] |
Sinbios | there are only two big bid orders, one at 80 and one at 70 | [15:20] |
taub | i see buying beeing absorbed right now | [15:20] |
Sinbios | if those disappear for whatever reason 50 isn't out of reach | [15:20] |
taub | you can also buy them with euros truffles | [15:20] |
taub | it's just that the biggest market is in dollars | [15:20] |
ThickAsThieves | sinbios, thats what i['m getting at | [15:20] |
Chaang-Noi | the volume is mostly in usd, but the euro market and even yuan market will drag the dollar price around | [15:21] |
ThickAsThieves | how much of this bidbook can disappear on a whim? | [15:21] |
taub | and even most of europeans trade it in usd i think | [15:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00346246 = 1.7312 BTC [-] | [15:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 700 @ 0.00346247 = 2.4237 BTC [+] | [15:21] |
Chaang-Noi | yes the bid walls can give up waiting and buy, but we were just at $50, why but now? | [15:21] |
Chaang-Noi | we dont have panic buying right now, but we might again over $130 | [15:21] |
ThickAsThieves | for 2 or 3 days, someone has been constructing this price, yet not letting it break the overall downward trend | [15:21] |
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Chaang-Noi | ? | [15:22] |
Chaang-Noi | btc is one | [15:22] |
ThickAsThieves | i think another big crash is coming | [15:23] |
Chaang-Noi | once nations states are gone.... | [15:23] |
ThickAsThieves | this manipulator WILL spend these dollars, and it WON'T be at these prices he constructed | [15:23] |
Scrat | truffles: you'd be surprised at how fast things move nowadays | [15:24] |
deadweasel | truffles: i agree, we see the internal rot, but nationstates power will remain in our lifetimes. | [15:24] |
taub | ehhh | [15:24] |
taub | market has been kinda shaking, especially this week | [15:24] |
deadweasel | political centrifigalism | [15:24] |
ThickAsThieves | what i think is that someone is manipulating, making up a large % of bid book, | [15:25] |
taub | and i dont think fiat currencies can live forever when all central banks are printing money like crazy | [15:25] |
ThickAsThieves | holding enough coins to be able remove all bids | [15:25] |
ThickAsThieves | and crash it down | [15:25] |
taub | you dont need bitcoin to kill fiat, fiat will kill itself the way it's going | [15:25] |
deadweasel | ^ | [15:25] |
deadweasel | yup | [15:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9389 @ 0.00071248 = 6.6895 BTC [+] | [15:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15218 @ 0.00072 = 10.957 BTC [+] | [15:27] |
ThickAsThieves | the only reason to hold the price up, but under 100 | [15:27] |
taub | i dont really like to think about that future where fiat breaks down, dont think it will be non violent | [15:27] |
ThickAsThieves | is that he doesnt have enough coins to crash it at a higher price | [15:27] |
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ThickAsThieves | which means the crash could come sooner than later | [15:27] |
ThickAsThieves | call me crazy | [15:27] |
deadweasel | to where tho? 70? 50? | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | but i'm just trying to make sense of this manip | [15:28] |
taub | yea obviously not | [15:28] |
deadweasel | thats not crash, it's a bitcoin sneeze | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | no way to know | [15:28] |
deadweasel | none | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | what if $10m of bids is on person? | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | one* | [15:28] |
ThickAsThieves | ;;bids 50 | [15:29] |
gribble | There are currently 189923.91 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12726343.8662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0065 seconds | [15:29] |
taub | max keiser | [15:29] |
ThickAsThieves | what if $15m is one person? | [15:29] |
Scrat | would take a lot of balls to have 10million on gox | [15:29] |
ThickAsThieves | what if it is gox | [15:29] |
ThickAsThieves | gox has made more than that no? | [15:30] |
ThickAsThieves | maybe they are using all the fees you pay them to control price | [15:30] |
Sinbios | ThickAsThieves: ...then what incentive does that person have to hold the price up instead of just letting it fall to $0.01 and buy it up then | [15:30] |
ThickAsThieves | its a numbers | [15:30] |
ThickAsThieves | game | [15:30] |
ThickAsThieves | the more cash they get for the crash coins | [15:30] |
ThickAsThieves | the more control they have at the bottom | [15:30] |
ThickAsThieves | but if its gox | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | it doesn even matter | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | they could do anything they want | [15:31] |
Scrat | how do you prove that an exchange is manipulating the price, provided that they are doing it right | [15:31] |
Sinbios | i don't understand what you're trying to say. what crash coins? | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | you get everyone to cash out | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | and see whats left | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [15:31] |
ThickAsThieves | well assuming its not gox | [15:32] |
ThickAsThieves | the manipulator would need to hold maybe 500k coins | [15:32] |
ThickAsThieves | (guessing) | [15:32] |
ThickAsThieves | and maybe $5,-$20m | [15:32] |
ThickAsThieves | if they know they make up a certain % of bidbook | [15:33] |
ThickAsThieves | they know exactly how many coins are needed to crash it to any price | [15:33] |
Scrat | if it's gox they dont even need to hold anything | [15:33] |
ThickAsThieves | right | [15:33] |
Scrat | they can change a value in the database | [15:33] |
ThickAsThieves | they can simply play with whatever the average balance is | [15:33] |
ThickAsThieves | an no one could know | [15:34] |
Scrat | only top management would know | [15:34] |
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ThickAsThieves | but cmon you guys have to see that this price is constructed | [15:34] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm not crazy about that am i? | [15:35] |
ThickAsThieves | there is no reason other than manip, to make bid walls that big | [15:36] |
Sinbios | so what | [15:36] |
Sinbios | the market is constantly manipulated | [15:36] |
ThickAsThieves | so what so what | [15:36] |
Scrat | Sinbios: there's a big difference | [15:37] |
ThickAsThieves | this is new exaggerated behavior | [15:37] |
Scrat | whale vs. the exchange themselves | [15:37] |
ThickAsThieves | this is big | [15:37] |
Sinbios | who said it's the exchange? | [15:37] |
Scrat | if the latter is true we're in deep shit | [15:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11600 @ 0.00072335 = 8.3909 BTC [+] | [15:37] |
Scrat | we aren't | [15:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00072397 = 7.9637 BTC [+] | [15:37] |
Scrat | this is a "what if" | [15:37] |
Sinbios | then why are you speculating? | [15:37] |
ThickAsThieves | dont you remember how 2 days ago we were at about 70, then a 15k wall appeared? | [15:38] |
ThickAsThieves | then it grew to 20k | [15:38] |
Scrat | because it's not falsifiable either | [15:38] |
ThickAsThieves | now last night one appears at 80 | [15:38] |
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Sinbios | god's not falsifiable either, are you speculating it's god keeping the price up | [15:38] |
ThickAsThieves | my point isnt to be high-minded | [15:39] |
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ThickAsThieves | the WHY doesnt matter | [15:39] |
ThickAsThieves | is the whether and when | [15:39] |
Scrat | I have a theory xenu might be buying btc, so yes | [15:39] |
Sinbios | ThickAsThieves: who cares? maybe it's some guy with deep pockets who thinks it's actually worth 70 and now 80 a coin | [15:39] |
ThickAsThieves | i care | [15:39] |
Sinbios | just be prepared that it might disappear at any time and act accordingly | [15:39] |
ThickAsThieves | so as i do what you just told me to do | [15:40] |
Sinbios | well you shouldn't | [15:40] |
ThickAsThieves | you bitch about it/ | [15:40] |
Sinbios | because it's pointless speculating and you're just going to whip yourself into an anxious frenzy | [15:40] |
Scrat | ;;ticker --last | [15:40] |
gribble | 93.00000 | [15:40] |
ThickAsThieves | be prepared, but stop caring | [15:40] |
ThickAsThieves | ... | [15:40] |
Scrat | i'm very calm actually | [15:40] |
Sinbios | i mean stop caring that it might be manipulation, because it is 100% manipulation | [15:40] |
ThickAsThieves | i am calm | [15:40] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm just excited to hash out my theory | [15:41] |
Scrat | gox is offline | [15:41] |
ThickAsThieves | disprove it or ignore it | [15:41] |
Sinbios | k | [15:41] |
Sinbios | i'm guessing most people are going with the latter, which might be why you don't get any replies when you ask if you're crazy | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | ive been talking about this with others for a couple days now | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | and its at the point where i want to share more | [15:42] |
troc | share more thoughts or evidence ? | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | i dont mind being wrong | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | or crazy | [15:42] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.365 BTC [+] | [15:42] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.36 = 2.72 BTC [-] | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | at least i'd have some new info | [15:42] |
ThickAsThieves | :) | [15:42] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.35 = 2.7 BTC [-] | [15:42] |
Scrat | ThickAsThieves I have a counter argument | [15:43] |
ThickAsThieves | shoot | [15:43] |
Scrat | that sort of manip would require someone working at gox who is competent | [15:44] |
Scrat | lol | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | haha | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | two problems | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | 1. it doesnt HAVE to be gox | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | 2. it doesnt take THAT much skil | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | skill* | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | its just a matter of scale | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | if you have that much resource | [15:44] |
ThickAsThieves | playing this game is very easy | [15:45] |
Scrat | im just trolling | [15:45] |
Scrat | in fact im always trolling | [15:45] |
Scrat | afk | [15:45] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [15:45] |
ThickAsThieves | right | [15:46] |
ThickAsThieves | i have done this kind of thing with stocks on bitfunder | [15:46] |
ThickAsThieves | constructed a price | [15:46] |
ThickAsThieves | and tore it down | [15:47] |
ThickAsThieves | no | [15:47] |
ThickAsThieves | just money and smarts | [15:47] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [15:47] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.60000, Best ask: 92.60001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 92.60000, 24 hour volume: 258868.97500742, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 90.79159 | [15:47] |
deadweasel | $avg | [15:47] |
mpexbot | deadweasel: 90.42 | [15:48] |
ThickAsThieves | lol | [15:48] |
ThickAsThieves | yes, the person must be a functional member of the economy | [15:48] |
ThickAsThieves | common sense isnt a big factor here | [15:49] |
ThickAsThieves | also, someone noticing doesnt change anything | [15:51] |
ThickAsThieves | yo'd have to convince most people | [15:51] |
ThickAsThieves | and then have them be so convinced they actually react | [15:51] |
ThickAsThieves | unlikely | [15:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.3998 = 5.5992 BTC [+] | [15:52] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.43 BTC [+] | [15:53] |
ThickAsThieves | if it IS gox, i'm not sure i'd even want to know | [15:54] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [+] | [15:54] |
ThickAsThieves | i have too much cash there | [15:54] |
ThickAsThieves | will take me a long time to get it out | [15:54] |
orkaa | http://i.imgur.com/QDKZohV.jpg | [15:54] |
orkaa | lol | [15:54] |
orkaa | i've got to find this | [15:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4599 BTC [+] | [15:55] |
orkaa | yeah, haha | [15:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.46 = 14.6 BTC [+] | [15:56] |
Chaang-Noi | 1.45 nice | [15:56] |
ThickAsThieves | if i am right, i think the only possible outcome is a big crash when the manipulator gets to the point where he barely has enoush coins to control a crash | [15:56] |
ThickAsThieves | occam told me no coincidence here | [15:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3199 @ 0.00072157 = 2.3083 BTC [-] | [15:58] |
ThickAsThieves | how are 20k walls a coincidence? | [15:58] |
ThickAsThieves | these arent walls that started at 1 and grew | [15:58] |
ThickAsThieves | they just appeared | [15:58] |
Sinbios | like i said, it's 100% manipulation. it's the nature of this market, deal with it or go home | [15:59] |
ThickAsThieves | like i said, it's theory, deal with it or go home | [16:00] |
Sinbios | good thing i don't have to deal with it | [16:00] |
ThickAsThieves | yes please put me on ignore | [16:00] |
ThickAsThieves | i'd appreciate it | [16:00] |
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ThickAsThieves | i guess some hard advice can be made from this theory, if you see those walls at 80 and 70 disappear, watch out | [16:05] |
ThickAsThieves | but i dont think they are that dumb to be that obvious | [16:06] |
ThickAsThieves | to blink them away as a hint | [16:06] |
Sinbios | [08:40:04] |
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ThickAsThieves | all hail sinbios | [16:06] |
MJR_ | people expecting a drop? | [16:07] |
ThickAsThieves | just tinfoilhatting big time | [16:07] |
Sinbios | truffles: hold onto long positions hoping it'll keep going up? | [16:07] |
sturles | Cloudflare error messages from the MtGox API isn't a good sign. DDoS again? Prepare for impact? | [16:07] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 221 @ 0.00408 = 0.9017 BTC [+] | [16:08] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 122 @ 0.00409 = 0.499 BTC [+] | [16:08] |
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ThickAsThieves | blockchain.info was hit with ddos to their servers that are supposed to be hidden by cloudlfare | [16:08] |
ThickAsThieves | so its possible cloudflare has been compromised ot something | [16:08] |
ThickAsThieves | or* | [16:08] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 34 @ 0.0028 = 0.0952 BTC [-] | [16:15] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 49 @ 0.0029 = 0.1421 BTC [+] | [16:15] |
savetheinternet | ThickAsThieves: it's not very hard to get cloudflare to reveal the site's IP address | [16:16] |
jurov | !ticker m ^oix | [16:16] |
assbot | [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 24.03032819 / 24.03032819 / (5 shares, 5.40 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) | [16:16] |
savetheinternet | all you need to do is file a false DMCA claim | [16:16] |
jurov | oix hahaha | [16:17] |
thestringpuller | lol 5 btc | [16:18] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu is a big meanie | [16:18] |
pgp | i'm with ThickAsThieves - manipulation is EASY with enough money and half a brain... | [16:21] |
pgp | when are credible news agencies gonna pick this http://www.dailypaul.com/282345/zimbabwe-makes-history-bitcoins-now-official-national-currency | [16:23] |
pgp | or discredit it... | [16:24] |
savetheinternet | it sounds like a bullshit story | [16:24] |
savetheinternet | no real source | [16:24] |
ThickAsThieves | looks like a personal blog post or something | [16:24] |
savetheinternet | some guys attempt to push up the price i guess, i dunno | [16:25] |
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jurov | kids, don't bring -anal here =) | [16:30] |
troc | lol | [16:30] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [16:31] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.22000, Best ask: 92.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 92.22000, 24 hour volume: 241621.59434693, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 98.77799, 24 hour vwap: 90.96920 | [16:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1673 @ 0.00071041 = 1.1885 BTC [-] | [16:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10159 @ 0.00069581 = 7.0687 BTC [-] | [16:35] |
pgp | wow -slow day in bitcoin land | [16:35] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 4 @ 0.34 = 1.36 BTC [+] | [16:43] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.29502 BTC [-] | [16:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | two more facets to add to my whale manip theory | [16:46] |
ThickAsThieves | 1. the manip and ddos would likely be the same source | [16:47] |
ThickAsThieves | 2. Only Gox would know how big of a bid wall is needed to force a floor | [16:47] |
ThickAsThieves | not saying it would HAVE to be gox | [16:47] |
ThickAsThieves | just that they would know easiest | [16:48] |
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ThickAsThieves | The wall at 80 has halved | [16:50] |
lippoper1 | you don't think the wall has moved up? | [16:52] |
ThickAsThieves | looks like it | [16:53] |
ThickAsThieves | like it got spread out | [16:54] |
ThickAsThieves | some kind of squeeze play | [16:54] |
ThickAsThieves | can't tell | [16:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00069463 = 2.7091 BTC [-] | [16:54] |
ThickAsThieves | squeeze the price here til the weekend | [16:57] |
ThickAsThieves | then pop it and buy up for a couple days | [16:57] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 57 @ 0.00409 = 0.2331 BTC [+] | [17:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 33 @ 0.00382 = 0.1261 BTC [-] | [17:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00381 = 0.1905 BTC [-] | [17:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0038 = 0.38 BTC [-] | [17:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 94 @ 0.00373 = 0.3506 BTC [-] | [17:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 44 @ 0.003724 = 0.1639 BTC [-] | [17:01] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 489 @ 0.003501 = 1.712 BTC [-] | [17:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 6189 @ 0.0035 = 21.6615 BTC [-] | [17:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18 BTC [-] | [17:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0035 = 0.35 BTC [-] | [17:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.3201 = 1.9206 BTC [-] | [17:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32000007 BTC [-] | [17:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00310002 = 3.1 BTC [-] | [17:17] |
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ThickAsThieves | ;;later | [17:18] |
gribble | Error: "later" is not a valid command. | [17:18] |
ThickAsThieves | whats the command to pm someone later? | [17:18] |
lippoper1 | ;;pm later | [17:19] |
gribble | Error: "pm" is not a valid command. | [17:19] |
lippoper1 | hehe | [17:19] |
troc | !!later ? | [17:19] |
lippoper1 | ;;next | [17:19] |
gribble | support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 6 hours, 11 minutes, and 50 seconds ago | [17:19] |
lippoper1 | ;;ticker | [17:20] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 92.90002, Best ask: 92.97000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06998, Last trade: 92.97000, 24 hour volume: 213470.79482426, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 96.40386, 24 hour vwap: 90.61458 | [17:20] |
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orkaa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U | [17:24] |
orkaa | hahaha | [17:24] |
error4733 | ;;bids 50 | [17:25] |
gribble | There are currently 191320.39 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 12858409.5504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0071 seconds | [17:25] |
error4733 | ;;bids 75 | [17:25] |
gribble | There are currently 59494.14 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 4890302.23197 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.4589 seconds | [17:25] |
error4733 | ;;bids 0 | [17:26] |
gribble | There are currently 99247013 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 19912477.3474 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.8990 seconds | [17:26] |
error4733 | 20M$ Cmon ONE TIME ! | [17:26] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.43000001 = 2.15 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.43 = 0.86 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4271666 = 1.2815 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.425 = 0.85 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.42 = 2.52 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.417 = 1.251 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.3989 = 1.1967 BTC [-] | [17:31] |
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lippoper1 | it's only less than 100k short | [17:32] |
lippoper1 | let me put in a quick buy order for 100k bitcoins | [17:33] |
error4733 | please | [17:33] |
lippoper1 | 100kusd worth of btc | [17:33] |
error4733 | you want some change ? | [17:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9425 @ 0.00068035 = 6.4123 BTC [-] | [17:33] |
error4733 | maybe in my couch ! let me check | [17:33] |
pgp | orkaa: funny video | [17:35] |
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taub | dat buy | [17:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 22 @ 0.0041 = 0.0902 BTC [+] | [17:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.32000006 = 0.64 BTC [-] | [17:42] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32000001 BTC [-] | [17:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.32 = 3.2 BTC [-] | [17:43] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.32 BTC [-] | [17:45] |
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error4733 | ;;bids 0 | [17:48] |
gribble | There are currently 99252549 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20327226.4718 USD in total. | Data vintage: 37.1946 seconds | [17:48] |
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bitesak | ;;ticker | [17:50] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.30000, Best ask: 94.39000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 94.22000, 24 hour volume: 198258.25230075, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.69850 | [17:50] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00068035 = 3.4698 BTC [-] | [17:52] |
bitesak | I have never seen so many millions in bids | [17:52] |
bitesak | ;;asks 260 | [17:52] |
gribble | There are currently 105104.93 bitcoins offered at or under 260.0 USD, worth 16053671.2769 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.9561 seconds | [17:52] |
pgp | hmmm... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goSaEQ9Z8Wg | [17:53] |
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error4733 | first time 20M$ bids !! this is huge | [17:58] |
Boydy | 20m bids? | [17:58] |
error4733 | ;;bids 0 | [17:59] |
gribble | There are currently 99252722 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20351513.2657 USD in total. | Data vintage: 73.3459 seconds | [17:59] |
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MJR_ | is this the first time? | [17:59] |
bitesak | in my memory it is | [18:03] |
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bitesak | over the last 2-3 days, its increased by 5 million | [18:03] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.306 = 0.918 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 29 @ 0.261 = 7.569 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.2602 = 2.0816 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2601 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.2601 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.25 = 0.5 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.24 = 1.68 BTC [-] | [18:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00310001 = 3.1 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00300502 = 3.005 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00300501 = 3.005 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.003005 = 6.01 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2600 @ 0.003 = 7.8 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.0029 = 8.7 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00288242 = 2.8824 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00275 = 1.375 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00270003 = 2.7 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00270001 = 5.4 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 474 @ 0.0027 = 1.2798 BTC [-] | [18:07] |
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bitesak | ;;ticker | [18:07] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 94.00000, Best ask: 94.19998, Bid-ask spread: 0.19998, Last trade: 94.00000, 24 hour volume: 194747.98048834, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 95.70000, 24 hour vwap: 90.73874 | [18:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2310 @ 0.00068475 = 1.5818 BTC [+] | [18:08] |
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lippoper1 | you're welcome error | [18:12] |
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Bugpowder | bitflooor lol | [18:18] |
lippoper1 | poor bitfloor | [18:19] |
Bugpowder | poor? | [18:19] |
Bugpowder | they stole 25,000BTC | [18:19] |
Bugpowder | what do you expect? | [18:19] |
lippoper1 | Bitcoin exchange BitFloor shuts its doors, promises to return everyone's money | [18:19] |
lippoper1 | The Verge‎ - 12 hours ago | [18:19] |
lippoper1 | 'promises' | [18:19] |
lippoper1 | and you know how you can't break promises | [18:19] |
lippoper1 | Do you think it has anything to do with this? Bitfloor Hacked, $250,000 Missing | Bitcoin Magazine | [18:20] |
lippoper1 | Bitfloor, the fourth largest exchange dealing in US dollars, has just announced that it has been hacked, and the service has taken a loss of 24,000 BTC | [18:20] |
Bugpowder | a good chance he stole the money the first time | [18:21] |
Diablo-D3 | my auction is still running | [18:22] |
Diablo-D3 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=179065 | [18:23] |
lippoper1 | true | [18:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00339 = 0.1695 BTC [+] | [18:23] |
MJR_ | huh? | [18:24] |
MJR_ | why would you steal the money, then go back to running the exchange | [18:24] |
MJR_ | no one lost money at bitfloor yesterday | [18:24] |
Bugpowder | to get the money a second time | [18:25] |
Bugpowder | oh? | [18:25] |
MJR_ | except he gave the money out | [18:25] |
Bugpowder | have people been able to withdraw? | [18:25] |
MJR_ | in fact you can still withdraw currently | [18:25] |
MJR_ | btc | [18:25] |
MJR_ | if you want fiat | [18:25] |
MJR_ | you have to wait for ACH | [18:25] |
MJR_ | that is what he meant by "i am giving all the money back" | [18:25] |
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MJR_ | it means he's giving all accounts their money | [18:25] |
Bugpowder | well… I would be sure to be first | [18:25] |
MJR_ | in fact he texted me to tell me to withdraw any btc i have | [18:25] |
MJR_ | which i did | [18:26] |
Bugpowder | cause there might not be enough for the last person | [18:26] |
MJR_ | huh? | [18:26] |
MJR_ | the hacking incident is completely unrelated to him closing | [18:26] |
MJR_ | he owes those people x number of coins | [18:26] |
MJR_ | nothing to do with current accounts | [18:26] |
Bugpowder | Its the same entity | [18:27] |
MJR_ | yes | [18:27] |
Bugpowder | why do new accounts have preference over old accounts | [18:27] |
Bugpowder | can't be legal | [18:27] |
MJR_ | he has a debt to them | [18:27] |
Bugpowder | lawsuit waiting to happen | [18:27] |
MJR_ | yeah, any year now | [18:27] |
MJR_ | considering him getting hacked was over a year ago | [18:27] |
MJR_ | i believe | [18:27] |
MJR_ | i personally did all my exchanging there | [18:28] |
MJR_ | and never had one problem | [18:28] |
lippoper1 | y shutting down? | [18:28] |
MJR_ | bank account closed | [18:28] |
MJR_ | more than likely recent upsurge of volume in cash...raised some eyebrows | [18:28] |
MJR_ | so i think they closed his bank account or something like that | [18:29] |
MJR_ | no details, but it has to do with fincen regs i think | [18:29] |
MJR_ | or at the very least AML | [18:29] |
lippoper1 | I heard he was talking to another bank and might re-open in 4 weeks | [18:29] |
lippoper1 | who would go there though? | [18:29] |
MJR_ | possible | [18:29] |
MJR_ | if he can figure out the AML stuff, compliance with fincen regs | [18:29] |
MJR_ | no reason why not | [18:30] |
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Bugpowder | he can't figure it out | [18:30] |
Bugpowder | that much is clear | [18:30] |
MJR_ | why not? | [18:30] |
Bugpowder | because he is operating illegally | [18:30] |
Bugpowder | and has been since being hacked | [18:30] |
MJR_ | i wouldn't talk to a bank so i could have them help me operate illegally | [18:30] |
MJR_ | no, has been since inception | [18:31] |
Bugpowder | yeha | [18:31] |
MJR_ | or technically since fincen released guidance | [18:31] |
MJR_ | again hacking had nothing to do with closing | [18:31] |
lippoper1 | hacking was just to hurt his reputation | [18:31] |
MJR_ | i would talk to a bank so they could help me implement KYC and AML | [18:31] |
lippoper1 | you're syaing they didn't make off with 24k BTC though? | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | mtgox is 502 | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | down | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | lippoper: someone did | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | we don't know who | [18:32] |
jborkl | diablo-d3 , how long till the auction ends? | [18:32] |
MJR_ | i'm still getting mt gox data | [18:32] |
MJR_ | its flying in on the api | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | I can't login | [18:32] |
MJR_ | weird | [18:32] |
Bugpowder | need to withdraw more | [18:32] |
MJR_ | i'm just watching market data | [18:32] |
MJR_ | ;;goxlag | [18:33] |
gribble | Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later. | [18:33] |
MJR_ | someone needs to restart gribble | [18:33] |
MJR_ | i think no? | [18:33] |
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Bugpowder | prob ddos | [18:37] |
troc | ;;bids 0 | [18:38] |
gribble | There are currently 99252456 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20514882.8485 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.9792 seconds | [18:38] |
pgp | gox is down hard, huh? | [18:40] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 997 @ 0.01 = 9.97 BTC [+] | [18:40] |
lippoper1 | very hard | [18:41] |
pgp | fuckin' joke... | [18:41] |
ThickAsThieves | it ddos | [18:41] |
ThickAsThieves | blockchain.info down all day | [18:41] |
ThickAsThieves | get ready for the crash | [18:41] |
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pgp | funny video while we wait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U | [18:42] |
Bugpowder | i freaking hope so | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | I totally fucked up | [18:43] |
pgp | how? | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | bought a TON of coins at 65 | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | sold them at 70 | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | :( | [18:43] |
pgp | lol | [18:43] |
Scrat | how muchis a ton | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | I'm at 0.29% | [18:43] |
pgp | you'll have another chance | [18:43] |
lippoper1 | what did you buy Ripples? | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | lol | [18:43] |
Bugpowder | I thought the buy wall at 70 was fake | [18:44] |
Bugpowder | it was not | [18:44] |
lippoper1 | LOL | [18:44] |
lippoper1 | evident by your sales | [18:44] |
lippoper1 | i just sold 2 at 95 | [18:45] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34589 BTC [+] | [18:45] |
lippoper1 | gonna use that liquidity to buy it up at whatever price gox comes back with | [18:45] |
lippoper1 | lol | [18:45] |
lippoper1 | for a .01% gain lmao | [18:45] |
lippoper1 | -1% for fees | [18:45] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm cashing out more today | [18:46] |
lippoper1 | *facepalm | [18:46] |
ThickAsThieves | after this all i have left is sdice | [18:46] |
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ThickAsThieves | and some miners | [18:46] |
ThickAsThieves | and a lil mpoe | [18:46] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [18:46] |
Bugpowder | ;;bids 69 | [18:46] |
gribble | There are currently 101606.17 bitcoins demanded at or over 69.0 USD, worth 7989462.52678 USD in total. | Data vintage: 85.4055 seconds | [18:46] |
Bugpowder | ;;bids 0 | [18:46] |
gribble | There are currently 99261721 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20535034.3746 USD in total. | Data vintage: 98.7360 seconds | [18:46] |
Bugpowder | jesus | [18:47] |
Bugpowder | 20M | [18:47] |
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ThickAsThieves | dont beleve the hype | [18:47] |
ThickAsThieves | believe | [18:47] |
MJR_ | is 20mil a new high? | [18:49] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah | [18:49] |
ThickAsThieves | but $10m+ of it are the manipulators | [18:49] |
ThickAsThieves | surely they prefer to buy at 40 | [18:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+] | [18:50] |
MJR_ | perhaps | [18:50] |
pgp | 20MM is bullshit | [18:50] |
MJR_ | i'm still getting good data | [18:51] |
MJR_ | over the api | [18:51] |
MJR_ | very quick too | [18:51] |
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Scrat | MJR_: cached by cloudflare | [18:51] |
pgp | price? | [18:51] |
MJR_ | how does cloudflare cache a websocket stream | [18:52] |
MJR_ | 94.20/94.47 | [18:53] |
MJR_ | 94.06 last | [18:53] |
Scrat | ah, thought you meant the http api | [18:53] |
MJR_ | nope, the socket.io is working beautifully so far | [18:54] |
MJR_ | been running since this morning | [18:54] |
ThickAsThieves | gox is up | [18:54] |
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MJR_ | of course it isn't super readable, but i can make it out if i stare at the right spots | [18:54] |
MJR_ | it just started lagging | [18:55] |
MJR_ | a tiny bit | [18:55] |
pgp | Gox = WORST EXCHANGE ON PLANET | [18:55] |
Bugpowder | just got more $ out of gox | [18:55] |
Bugpowder | Gox = BEST BITCOIN EXCHANGE ON PLANET | [18:55] |
Bugpowder | sadly | [18:55] |
pgp | lol | [18:57] |
pgp | now that bitfloor and bitcoin24 are gone, soon gox will be ONLY bitcoin exchange on planet | [18:58] |
taub | campbx should make their site less ugly meby the'd get some customers | [19:00] |
pgp | campbx will like be next to fold | [19:02] |
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taub | up we go | [19:02] |
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Doffx | Why would it fold? | [19:04] |
taub | i'm not sure, they seem pretty legit and in check with legal stuff | [19:04] |
taub | and they've been up for 2 years almost now | [19:04] |
pizzaman1337 | ;;ticker | [19:04] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.90000, Best ask: 95.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 95.97999, 24 hour volume: 176637.04484907, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 95.91100, 24 hour vwap: 90.73430 | [19:04] |
Doffx | yeah that's why I asked. | [19:04] |
pizzaman1337 | come on 100 | [19:04] |
Doffx | ;;next | [19:05] |
gribble | support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 7 hours, 57 minutes, and 10 seconds ago | [19:05] |
asciilifeform | how about btc-e? is there something evil about it? | [19:05] |
pgp | govt will crack down | [19:05] |
taub | btce is russians | [19:05] |
pgp | CTFC will want to regulate | [19:05] |
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pgp | bitfloor prolly closed because of FinCEN | [19:05] |
Doffx | Tell it to go regulate the real criminals it keeps letting off the hook | [19:06] |
Doffx | Wait CTFC are the criminals | [19:06] |
pgp | ye | [19:06] |
pgp | yes | [19:06] |
taub | nothing against russians, but the fact that you can just take bitcoins and close up shop... who knows, maybe if t hey got enough in deposits they'll suddenly claim a "hack" or something... but that's the danger with any exchnage | [19:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00275213 = 5.5043 BTC [-] | [19:06] |
pgp | doesn't change the fact that running an axchange in the US will be a real headache | [19:07] |
taub | i love this cascade of little breakouts | [19:07] |
pgp | unless you have deep pockets and scall | [19:07] |
pgp | scale | [19:07] |
taub | yep, maybe max keisers one wil be good, london based | [19:07] |
taub | they usually are really liberal with their financial regulations | [19:07] |
Doffx | I doubt they do it that way | [19:07] |
troc | or not | [19:07] |
pgp | binary options? | [19:08] |
troc | blockchain and gox had to shutdown their uk bank accounts | [19:08] |
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taub | oh, snap | [19:08] |
Doffx | They will let more people get in to BTC create a giant calamity in wich people lose tons then find some people to tell how they lost it all and how unfortunate they are. | [19:08] |
Doffx | Then they will outlaw all crypto coins | [19:08] |
Doffx | for our own protection | [19:08] |
taub | could happen yea | [19:09] |
pgp | outlaw - no... make it really difficult to convert fiat to crypto, yes... | [19:09] |
pgp | not sure how you can actually outlaw bitcoin... at least in US... | [19:10] |
pgp | i think that in the end there is a strong first ammendment argument to be made that bitcoin is a form of speech | [19:10] |
taub | label them as hiyt or what they are called | [19:10] |
taub | hyip | [19:11] |
taub | ;;ticker | [19:11] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 95.74999, Best ask: 95.96230, Bid-ask spread: 0.21231, Last trade: 95.96230, 24 hour volume: 175919.78736906, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 96.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72937 | [19:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 464 @ 0.00275213 = 1.277 BTC [-] | [19:12] |
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error4733 | ;;bids 0 | [19:16] |
gribble | There are currently 99263832 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20523346.483 USD in total. | Data vintage: 93.8686 seconds | [19:16] |
error4733 | !asks 265.9 | [19:16] |
error4733 | ;;asks 265.9 | [19:16] |
gribble | There are currently 101929.89 bitcoins offered at or under 265.9 USD, worth 16175085.4369 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0077 seconds | [19:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9400 @ 0.00068475 = 6.4367 BTC [+] | [19:18] |
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Scrat | ;;bids 0 | [19:46] |
gribble | There are currently 99264378 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 20874550.2445 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0196 seconds | [19:46] |
Scrat | wut | [19:46] |
Scrat | how the fuck did this jump sky high in 1 day | [19:47] |
pizzaman1337 | oh, that's awesome | [19:47] |
troc | is this gox getting round to bumper subscriptions from the ath 10days ago ? | [19:47] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.39 = 2.78 BTC [-] | [19:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.36 = 4.08 BTC [-] | [19:50] |
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pigeons | this one too huh https://bitcoin-24.com/ | [20:07] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [20:10] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 96.50001, Best ask: 96.54000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 96.54000, 24 hour volume: 167037.83440532, 24 hour low: 83.00000, 24 hour high: 97.59000, 24 hour vwap: 91.04704 | [20:10] |
punkman | https://twitter.com/Bitcoin24com | [20:11] |
punkman | "It is time for something new. A new big business and a very serious Company, which can not be fuc***! We will be back for sure!" | [20:11] |
thestringpuller | ;;seen smickles | [20:11] |
gribble | smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 0 days, 1 hour, 28 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: |
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error4733 | ;;next | [20:16] |
gribble | support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 9 hours, 8 minutes, and 17 seconds ago | [20:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.29 BTC [-] | [20:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 1.28 = 15.36 BTC [-] | [20:17] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.275 = 3.825 BTC [-] | [20:17] |
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deadweasel | where is bitfinex? | [20:30] |
deadweasel | are they likely to be shut down? | [20:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3940 @ 0.00068475 = 2.6979 BTC [+] | [20:32] |
Doffx | I always wondered when this would start happening | [20:33] |
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Doffx | Banks finally saying eff you, closing that account buh bye Exchange. | [20:34] |
Doffx | I wonder how hard it would be to make a Bank | [20:34] |
Doffx | FUnd it just for Bitcoin trade | [20:34] |
Doffx | Bet it would be near impossible | [20:34] |
deadweasel | very | [20:35] |
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lippoper1 | look at BFL | [20:46] |
lippoper1 | they've basically done that | [20:46] |
lippoper1 | they've taken millions of dollars of pre-order funds | [20:46] |
lippoper1 | and are using it to mine | [20:46] |
lippoper1 | for themselves lol | [20:46] |
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Doffx | Uhh, I think we would notice that fairly quickly. | [20:47] |
lippoper1 | while scaring potential miners because of their mystical pink unicorn like ASICS that could ship at any minute now | [20:47] |
asciilifeform | fiat banks declaring total war on BTC was only a matter of time. seriously, it isn't like nobody saw it coming. | [20:47] |
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lippoper1 | they just want their portion of the fees aciilifeform | [20:47] |
Doffx | They are getting the fees | [20:47] |
lippoper1 | i'm sure once they get a little slice of heaven they'll stop being so jealous | [20:47] |
pgp | i agree | [20:47] |
Doffx | It cost you every time you transfer money so they were making money off BTC but losing in another way much bigger if BTC actually got adopted as a true payment sytem | [20:48] |
pgp | fiat banks don't want to deal with BTC exchanges | [20:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.252 = 2.504 BTC [-] | [20:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.241 = 2.482 BTC [-] | [20:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24001 BTC [-] | [20:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-] | [20:49] |
Doffx | They stand to lose Power, Control, and Money if BTC was adopted. | [20:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.24 BTC [-] | [20:49] |
Doffx | I think the Power is the most important part. | [20:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23 BTC [-] | [20:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.211 BTC [-] | [20:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [-] | [20:49] |
Doffx | Wow, glad I ditched mine yesterday. | [20:49] |
Doffx | bought a 8 at 72, then sold at 1.30 | [20:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.2 = 9.6 BTC [-] | [20:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 1.2 = 10.8 BTC [-] | [20:50] |
asciilifeform | fiat banks won't surrender to the idea of moving $1 across the ocean costing $0. They want it to cost ~$50 (in pure profit for the parasites,) as it does now. | [20:50] |
Doffx | Now to get a bunch more cheap! | [20:50] |
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lippoper1 | Why is ASIC MINER doing so bad Doffx? | [20:51] |
Doffx | Its not, people are just speculating. | [20:52] |
deadweasel | 1.2 is not bad | [20:52] |
Doffx | Its up quite a bit | [20:52] |
Doffx | I just wanted to get out at the peak | [20:52] |
Doffx | I was just day tried for a fast btc, worked out this time. | [20:52] |
Doffx | err day trading weps | [20:53] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.00001 BTC [-] | [20:57] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 1 = 15 BTC [-] | [20:58] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 468 @ 0.00069463 = 0.3251 BTC [+] | [21:10] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.335 = 1.005 BTC [+] | [21:11] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [+] | [21:28] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 4 @ 0.199 = 0.796 BTC [+] | [21:28] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.23397 BTC [+] | [21:38] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.96503 BTC [-] | [21:48] |
jurov | lol tradehill going to argentina http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-16/bitcoin-dreams-endure-to-savers-crushed-by-cpi-argentina-credit.html | [21:49] |
jurov | "Kenna is seeking to partner with a local bank to open an exchange in the country." | [21:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.96502 = 3.8601 BTC [-] | [21:50] |
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jurov | ;;bc,convert eur | [21:55] |
gribble | 1 BTC = 95.10000 U.S. dollars = 72.9070837 Euros | [21:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22300 @ 0.00072228 = 16.1068 BTC [+] | [21:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 293 @ 0.00072397 = 0.2121 BTC [+] | [21:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18807 @ 0.00073 = 13.7291 BTC [+] | [21:56] |
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thestringpuller | mpoe at new highs | [22:08] |
pizzaman1337 | $avg | [22:08] |
mpexbot | pizzaman1337: 91.99 | [22:08] |
thestringpuller | ;;next | [22:08] |
gribble | support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 11 hours and 51 seconds ago | [22:08] |
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FabianB | !t m S.DICE | [22:56] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0027 / 0.00294867 / 0.00346247 (20988 shares, 61.89 BTC), 7D: 0.0027 / 0.00347087 / 0.00439999 (88231 shares, 306.24 BTC), 30D: 0.0027 / 0.00340411 / 0.005598 (1807229 shares, 6,152.01 BTC) | [22:56] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.16 = 0.48 BTC [-] | [22:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.159 = 1.113 BTC [-] | [22:56] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.19987 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199879 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.2 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
FabianB | what's wrong with s.dice? | [23:04] |
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iz | i know the answer to this one; it does each of it's transactions in the blockchain | [23:05] |
iz | :b | [23:05] |
FabianB | still making big profit | [23:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6193 @ 0.00073 = 4.5209 BTC [+] | [23:11] |
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pgp | 24h volume back down to 135k at gox... | [23:13] |
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pizzaman1337 | ;;bids 0 | [23:18] |
gribble | There are currently 99273220 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 21139142.3182 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.7309 seconds | [23:18] |
pizzaman1337 | wow | [23:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4 = 1.2 BTC [+] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.399 = 1.995 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.39890001 = 3.989 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3989 = 0.7978 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 15 @ 0.395 = 5.925 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.39 = 0.78 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.38 = 1.14 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.38 = 2.66 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 50 @ 0.37 = 18.5 BTC [-] | [23:19] |
Doffx | Is tradehill up and running currently? | [23:19] |
soypirate | what's the deal with s.dice. anyone have a guess for where the price is going? | [23:22] |
soypirate | sorry, i see that someone just asked that | [23:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2707 @ 0.00073338 = 1.9853 BTC [+] | [23:24] |
ThickAsThieves | its going up and down | [23:25] |
ThickAsThieves | afaik | [23:25] |
soypirate | what's the safest bet for like 10btc right now: s.dice or BTC-BOND? | [23:25] |
ThickAsThieves | up again after that | [23:25] |
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ThickAsThieves | safe = bind | [23:25] |
ThickAsThieves | bond | [23:25] |
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soypirate | will s.dice go back up, or do you guys think it will go down before it goes back up? | [23:26] |
jurov | the outcome will be the same, no? | [23:28] |
Scrat | 50% up, 50% down | [23:28] |
soypirate | i guess you're right... weird question. | [23:28] |
Scrat | i am a wizard fyi | [23:28] |
soypirate | hehe | [23:28] |
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jurov | i'd buy s.dice to expect more profit... but you need strong nerves, its movememnts defy all logic | [23:31] |
soypirate | I feel with s.dice that, the way the btc/usd price has been wild, the dividends will not really pay for the profit loss in terms of share to btc resale value... | [23:31] |
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jurov | neither btc-bond will do that | [23:31] |
soypirate | you mean, the dividends don't pay for the loss in share value? | [23:32] |
jurov | you can't expect them to | [23:32] |
jurov | s.dice has nothing to do with usd | [23:33] |
jurov | if you fear btc crash so much, do some spreadsheet yourself and buy some puts instead | [23:34] |
soypirate | in as much as affecting the value of BTC | [23:34] |
jurov | or divide the investment | [23:34] |
jurov | s.dice firmly captured a part of btc economy and any usd movements affect it mildly at most | [23:35] |
soypirate | yeah, I was about to say, it was at 0.006 and went to 0.003 during the latest btc/usd bubble | [23:36] |
soypirate | price per share | [23:37] |
soypirate | I see | [23:37] |
soypirate | so, long-term would be better to trade a few for m.poe or something? | [23:38] |
joecool | same could be said about mtgox | [23:38] |
joecool | lol | [23:38] |
joecool | both have been proven to be run by idiots | [23:39] |
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jurov | who are you talking to? tiberiusiv? i am ignoring him for a reason | [23:39] |
joecool | oh yeah he usually trolls | [23:39] |
joecool | lol last time i was in here you were calling mircea a gypsy over and over and telling us he makes a living stealing chickens | [23:40] |
joecool | or some other bs | [23:40] |
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jurov | for example i have ignored after he came up with this: |
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jurov | such "fact" i know for certain was just some ass pull | [23:45] |
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deadweasel | jurov, you're not missing anything | [23:50] |
deyyo | ;;next | [23:51] |
gribble | support: 91, 86 | targets: 100-102, 105, 110-113, 120, ..., 50% retracement at 160, new highs? | updated by OneFixt at Apr 18 2013, 08:08 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | 12 hours, 43 minutes, and 6 seconds ago | [23:51] |
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dub | soypirate: the ass fell out of s.deuce well before the latest bubble | [23:53] |
dub | for the reason we all know but don't like to say | [23:54] |
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dub | jurov nearly got there | [23:55] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.82 = 3.64 BTC [+] | [23:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.3789999 BTC [+] | [23:59] |
soypirate | i'm sorry, I'm not aware | [23:59] |
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