Forum logs for 17 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

asciilifeform	'Libgcrypt now accepts contributions after having received a simple mail (right, e-mail, no transatlantic snail mail) with a Developer’s Certificate of Origin as known from other projects. Voilà, patches with new features and performance improvements started to come in.'	[00:00]
asciilifeform	^ ?!#!@??@?$%%!!!!!	[00:00]
decimation	asciilifeform: stallman sits upon emacs, etc	[00:00]
asciilifeform	'The FSFE's December newsletter mentioned this article. For whatever reasons it suddenly disappeared from the website. A diff against Google's cache shows...'	[00:01]
decimation	asciilifeform: who are these contributors who were afraid of contributing to a gnu (instead of werner) copyright?	[00:04]
decimation	"as u see on this postcard im in great country of fuckwitstan. pls to commit my patches ur cryptolib"	[00:12]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "defeated" != "any sort of defeat".	[00:31]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo you have to appreciate i don't do bezzle. that "couple mil" per year was about 20k actual deductibles and the rest fluff.	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if this is how history will remember gawker << it's certainly how i'll remember it. "that wanna-be news-livejournal thing that got destroyed by hulk hogan"	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	or similar 'leak' with unambiguous physical consequences. << the "unambiguous" in there is a no true scotsman. you know for a fact that leaks to date have had physical consequences of the worst kind for the twerps in question, and you know they know, and you can observe them act in consequence of that knowledge. they digested the fact they are informationally defeated.	[00:35]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Sure, but you have to consider Denton only does Bezzel, Blow Jobs, and Loss leading social engineering. From what I understand he hit his peak wealth before Gawker got close to popular. Much like i hit peak fitness a decade ago befor I had internet connected terminal at "werk"	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	yeah well. sucks to be him,	[00:36]
BingoBoingo	Sure, but his gay is more accept nao than Turing's was then. Even though he also had to bankroll fat acceptance, Kardashians, and lets hate athletic success to make it happen.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	So, LED bulbs... really excelling at exterior lighting. << so they are. also they bother the fauna, so less racoons	[00:38]
BingoBoingo	The stray cats adore them	[00:38]
decimation	mircea_popescu: 'has physical consequences' seems like a solid criteria, not 'no true scotsman'	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	the kardasshian part in there is understandable.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	decimation everything's ambiguous if you wish it to be	[00:39]
BingoBoingo	Sure, the Kim subtype has an ass.	[00:39]
BingoBoingo	The other's are too hammy	[00:39]
decimation	in the case in question though, I think it does do damage to usg where it hurts	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	the others didn't have the gumption tro spend a coupla years as paris hilton's foot slaves	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	this makes a difference.	[00:40]
BingoBoingo	No they didn't	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	decimation look at it this way :	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	!s we know where you live	[00:40]
assbot	7 results for 'we know where you live' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=we+know+where+you+live	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	and for that matter	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	!s from:mircea you get killed	[00:40]
assbot	11 results for 'from:mircea you get killed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Amircea+you+get+killed	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	generally, early discussion of later to be publicly known stuff is considered unambiguous enough.	[00:41]
scoopbot_revived	BitPay Continues To Falter http://qntra.net/2015/06/bitpay-continues-to-falter/	[00:41]
decimation	not to minimize your reign of terror, but I think usg servants fear chinese agents even more	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	but obviously unambiguity standards vary.	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	why would they be able to distinguish ?	[00:41]
BingoBoingo	Kim has an ass that can only be built from Armenia, Squats, and slavish dedication. Kim's sisters... Have bodies built by lazy and spandex tressing.	[00:42]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: let's rephrase. ever heard of a fella named sergey motorin? adolf tolkachev ?	[00:43]
cazalla	fwiw i don't even think she's that attractive (bisfh obviously)	[00:43]
asciilifeform	su folks who turned coat and worked for usg. outed, and shot	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	and who the fuck apologizes for women that look good in bikinis	[00:43]
asciilifeform	that's 'physical consequence'	[00:43]
asciilifeform	and it was (after a bit) public	[00:44]
mircea_popescu	and you don't like the sean guy because reasons.	[00:44]
asciilifeform	http://www.videofact.com/english/tolkachev2.jpg	[00:44]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1CczHYh )	[00:44]
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asciilifeform	usg could answer the 'we know where you live' with 'so what, come and get it'	[00:48]
*	BingoBoingo pretty sure best thing at stopping USG action is other USG inertia and USG molasses	[00:50]
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danielpbarron	BingoBoingo, https://archive.is/Dwif0#selection-129.405-129.410 << should be "giving" ?	[01:06]
assbot	Hulk Hogan Puts Denton's Control of Gawker Media on Life Support \| Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1CcBiNM )	[01:06]
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mats	https://www.nowsecure.com/blog/2015/06/16/remote-code-execution-as-system-user-on-samsung-phones	[01:47]
assbot	Remote Code Execution as System User on Samsung Phones \| NowSecure Blogs ... ( http://bit.ly/1GY05fK )	[01:47]
mats	har	[01:48]
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mircea_popescu	"The only great material difference between Gawker's lines on the fappening and their publication of Bollea's tape is that while photos during the fappening were released in a decentralized manner, Gawker got to publish the Hulk Hogan sex tape first. "	[02:12]
mircea_popescu	heh. got 'em.	[02:12]
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cazalla	well au signed a free trade agreement with choina today.. PM thinks we should be happy we get cheap shit from china even cheaper now or something	[03:35]
cazalla	http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-17/australia-and-china-sign-free-trade-agreement/6552940	[03:35]
assbot	Australia and China sign 'history making' free trade agreement after a decade of negotiations - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1GdPUx4 )	[03:35]
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mats	https://github.com/benjamingr/favicon-bug	[04:35]
assbot	benjamingr/favicon-bug · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1GYcPDo )	[04:35]
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mircea_popescu	cazalla it's no alternative sort of deal. the "us in south china sea" story is coming to an end this decade.	[05:28]
mats	usg is notoriously stubborn so please share intel with the class	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	no usable jet, not like carriers would be usable even if they had a jet, no money to back it all up with anyway even if they had a miracle cure for rocketry, and no brains to work the entire thing even if money were somehow to be found, as it's always found when there's brains involved.	[05:34]
cazalla	mircea_popescu, i'll hold you to that!	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	nothing too secret bout it.	[05:35]
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mircea_popescu	next us president whoever is gonna be is going to discover a sudden fondness for russia and "move past previous difficulties", and the transition's complete : washington is now a sort of germany, in charge of a large rust bucket that doesn't much care for it.	[05:38]
mats	i dun see it	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	but you do see where it says us gdp < euro gdp yes ?	[05:39]
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mats	usg has the next best thing to a naval base in south china sea	[05:39]
mats	the philippines	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	anything the us has is there for the taking.	[05:40]
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mircea_popescu	were the philippines in the beijing accord btw ?	[05:41]
mats	im not sure what you're specifically referring to	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	Noynoy Aquino said that the Philippines is still considering to join AIIB. "We have not indicated that we are ready to join also. We are actually at the stage of studying the proposal to join this particular new entity."	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	that.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	whore be milking the gringo for all he's got.	[05:43]
mats	oh, AIIB	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	japan was also considering it but then... somehow they changed their mind.	[05:44]
cazalla	well if it all goes to shit.. might finally find out what the yanks have been doing at pine gap all these years	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	eh, you might discover that chinese honeymoon much more pleasant than usg dregs.	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	it'll suck when your kids come of age, not next decade.	[05:46]
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mats	i am pretty curious to see what happens to china over the next century	[05:46]
mats	the one child policy has serious cultural ramifications	[05:47]
mats	chinese females are predictably holding out longer and raising their standards, but thats still a lot of extinct lines	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	you got women don't ya ?	[05:48]
cazalla	alotta chinese women with aussie men these days	[05:48]
mats	this predicament is why i have no sympathy for all the SJW whiners in USA	[05:49]
mats	folks have no sense of scale	[05:49]
mats	imagine being a chinese male with no prospects	[05:49]
mats	(you can't)	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	back in 1992 all ukrainian girls were dancing in leipzig.	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	give it a little, all ohio girls be dancin' in shanghai	[05:49]
cazalla	yellow man, white pussy, big $$$	[05:50]
mircea_popescu	best swindle ever.	[05:50]
mircea_popescu	recently the airlines managed to lose more money than was made in the history of flight.	[05:50]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile prostitution... i suspect whores are going to make more money this century than total up to date.	[05:50]
mats	how did they manage to do that after making 3x usu profits because cost of fuel going down?	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	this was 2000-2010	[05:51]
mats	my understanding is that operating an airline has always been a losing proposition	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	ayway, whoredom's gonna be great business. the chinese bezzle looks like it's going to be this, a lot of small yellow beta males swarmin' around. except they won't try to go to college and get a mortgage to please the old folks.	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	they'll just carry dept to stick coins in the stereoscopic machine with the girl taking her pants off	[05:53]
cazalla	airline industry is aus is pretty bad, so bad that QANTAS has a debt guarantee from the government	[05:53]
mats	IIRC US-based airlines have consistently reported 1% or 0 profit since being privatized	[05:53]
mats	hedging against cost of fuel is a bitch	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	even train traverl was aspirational at some point	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	and railroads raked it in	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	and re the "imagine being a drone"... why do you think it's so impossible to imagine ?	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	in any case : the best thing that could happen is for a whole lot of lines to go extinct. like... most of them, really.	[05:56]
mats	its a dramatically different thing to be a white WalMart greeter	[06:04]
mircea_popescu	sure	[06:04]
mats	than it is to be a manual laborer for Wu Gang's Mining Emporium	[06:05]
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mircea_popescu	more like a freeranged cow for wu gang's organic organ growth farm.	[06:05]
mircea_popescu	plenty western fixations the chinese do not share.	[06:06]
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mats	the cultural context is entirely different, and whether its true or not,	[06:07]
mats	there's a lot more implicit potential social mobility involved in being a white dude in us	[06:07]
mircea_popescu	social mobility is a nice way to say it. the other way to say it is "swimming in a shitswamp"	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	as empirically observed, there's not any cause or any way to build anything in a swamp.	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	and everything stinks	[06:08]
mats	whereas, if you're a chinese dude,	[06:08]
mats	literally 1 in 4 dudes you meet will never procreate	[06:08]
mats	sucks to suck	[06:08]
mircea_popescu	i had no idea having kids is the summum bonum	[06:09]
mircea_popescu	when did that happen ?	[06:09]
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chetty	only in Amerika can you just decide to be black even if you skin is white	[06:10]
cazalla	mats, are you asian?	[06:11]
mats	yes	[06:11]
cazalla	plenty of white people aren't procreating either, different reasons though (career women)	[06:12]
cazalla	there's what.. a billion or more chinese? i think they're good numbers wise	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	numbers really are worthless.	[06:13]
mircea_popescu	used to be, for most of human history, numbers mattered.	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	they don't, now.	[06:14]
cazalla	why's that?	[06:14]
chetty	it still takes 2 to tango	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	only thing another hundred twerps does for you is more inane demands.	[06:14]
cazalla	so we're at the point we're it's sorta like bezzle but for people?	[06:14]
mircea_popescu	yep.	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	originally, people pinned women down and stuck it in them because the kids cost nothing, either fed themselves off offal or died, and then could be used, for purposes.	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	then, steam power replaced muscle power, and people started playing talent lottery.	[06:15]
cazalla	well i must say, it comes to a shock that i have been printing bezzle	[06:15]
cazalla	as a shock even	[06:15]
mircea_popescu	one million schmucks had to kill themselves raising kids in new jersey so there could be a miss new jersey on television	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	nobody gives a shit about rockstars and genius scientists now.	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	consequently... really, no further point. if tomorrow you wake up and there's not ten billion people but ten thousand, there won't be a notable difference.	[06:16]
mircea_popescu	minus, of course, your not being there to notice.	[06:16]
cazalla	could be if the remaining 9,999 are all women :P	[06:17]
mircea_popescu	prolly about 6k of em	[06:17]
mats	i don't care about reproduction, but there is the issue of those others	[06:18]
chetty	would be noticeable when stuff starts breaking down	[06:18]
cazalla	mats, maybe they don't care either?	[06:18]
mats	i suppose the tentative plan is to recolonize oceania and us	[06:19]
mats	pretty hard to ignore biological imperatives, cazalla	[06:19]
mats	even when you enjoy the taste of cock	[06:19]
cazalla	well if/when america topples over, down under is shit out of luck, chinese will come flooding out of the water and on to the land	[06:19]
cazalla	and i can't imagine the chinese men will have much mercy for the aussie men banging their chinese-australian women	[06:20]
cazalla	mats, i doubt they do ignore them which is why pornotubes are the top sites	[06:21]
mircea_popescu	who knows, maybe they pay to watch	[06:21]
cazalla	pay in what? dollars? doubtful, iron ore? chinese own it all already	[06:22]
mircea_popescu	uniques lol	[06:25]
cazalla	meh chinese farmed em already	[06:29]
mats	the problem i'm faced with now is where to flee	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	actually there's a decent sf story in there, title it something like "986"	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	the premise being that in that future of barely a thousand people, you don't really need names, and moreover, you can trivially ennumerate the list of everyone	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	mats what's wrong with china ?	[06:34]
mats	clean air, water, and food	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	ah	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	large country, they cvouldn't have fuxcked up all of it	[06:34]
cazalla	copypaste is this a troll? UNHCR begging for donations for nigerians on 8chan? http://i.imgur.com/jVE61J7.png	[06:34]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Fm0PnN )	[06:34]
cazalla	mats, i know a place	[06:34]
mats	is it in australia	[06:35]
cazalla	lord howe island	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	lmao check out that stupid shit.	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	!rated copypaste	[06:36]
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mircea_popescu	!unrate	[06:36]
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mircea_popescu	!unrated copypaste	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	grr	[06:36]
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mats	that escalated quickly	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	this is exactly like that one time when the alzheimer dude or w/e his name is wouldn't work with me then partnered up with keiser and started an ever-lulzy kickstarter that got together fiddy bucks and they're neither goinmg to ever mention again, because hey, internet, it's how it works.	[06:37]
mircea_popescu	but EXACTLY.	[06:37]
cazalla	weev	[06:38]
mircea_popescu	there's yer ever-vaunted "social mobility", mats. the nonsensical premise that people should be in charge of their own life and make their own decisions. pure poison for everyone.	[06:38]
cazalla	copypaste, did the AFP or any other coppers from down under contact you regarding those adelaide nude girl pics? (context - http://www.dailylife.com.au/dl-people/nude-photos-of-australian-women-shared-on-us-porn-site-20150617-ghpw5q.html)	[06:41]
assbot	Daily Life 404 Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1KYqxWE )	[06:41]
copypaste	no	[06:41]
copypaste	also regarding that ad, i assume the japanese just put up an ad network	[06:41]
copypaste	i think it's yahoo! ads but i'm not sure	[06:41]
copypaste	i certainly didn't get a list of ads to approve	[06:41]
copypaste	it's probably geotargetted as well, as it mentions australia	[06:41]
cazalla	prob cause i was looking up nat geo african titties earlier	[06:43]
copypaste	for example here's the ad i see https://0x0.st/vc.png	[06:43]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1KYqYAh )	[06:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00042159 = 8.9799 BTC [+]	[06:43]
copypaste	i can't even read that shit	[06:43]
copypaste	10000 yen / month for something or other	[06:43]
copypaste	i can read the important part :^)	[06:43]
copypaste	but anyway mircea_popescu not sure why you're mad. We agreed to one month. The month ended, things went back to how they were before.	[06:45]
copypaste	I converted what I was given by you and paid $250 to them already.	[06:45]
mircea_popescu	i'm not mad dude.	[06:45]
copypaste	(That doesn't cover close to our bandwidth bills, we served 200TB last month, around $2K...)	[06:45]
copypaste	(So I assume that was absorbed, or written off, or they hope to make it back somehow [somehow indeed])	[06:46]
mircea_popescu	things just went back to how they were before.	[06:47]
cazalla	damn copypaste, this shit is gonna be all over the media here	[06:47]
copypaste	You live in Aus? Unfortunate	[06:47]
copypaste	They've got some real out there laws.	[06:47]
copypaste	Did you know they readily admit to forcing ISPs to capture all data that leaves the country	[06:48]
copypaste	Hell, even that which stays within the country	[06:48]
cazalla	yeah i know :	[06:48]
cazalla	but tbh, they've prob been doing it for much longer than they admit anyway	[06:48]
cazalla	data retention supposedly lasts 2 years but more likely forevar or until their hdds are full	[06:49]
copypaste	well in the US at least	[06:50]
copypaste	they do it	[06:50]
copypaste	oh sure they do it. but they can't admit to it	[06:50]
copypaste	so they have to at least attempt parallel construction	[06:50]
cazalla	i half expect to see your face on tv and in newspapers here in the next few days	[06:51]
copypaste	i suppose i'll never be headed to australia then	[06:52]
copypaste	humorous	[06:52]
cazalla	well if it's in the adelaide NOW, it'll likely run in the others	[06:52]
copypaste	the site where most of the sharing is happening is actually volafile.io	[06:52]
copypaste	i see cazalla	[06:52]
copypaste	i think they are attempting not to mention me and 8ch	[06:52]
copypaste	because they dont; want people to find it so easily.	[06:52]
cazalla	i don't see the big deal tbh, australian school girls have always been huge moles	[06:53]
mats	;;ud mole	[06:54]
cazalla	agriculture class provided my first clasp of the titty	[06:54]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mole \| mole. a really sexy animal that lives mainly underground. dad: ahh no, look at that lump in the lawn, we must have moles me: ooooo great! *runs out to molest ...	[06:54]
cazalla	nah that UD is wrong, least for aussie mole	[06:54]
mircea_popescu	so what's an aussie mole ?	[06:55]
cazalla	ah i'm spelling it wrong..	[06:56]
cazalla	;;ud moll	[06:56]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moll \| moll. noun. Slang word from Gangland-era America that meant an attractive young woman. It was often used to describe a "gangster"'s love interest. Slick Dan's ...	[06:56]
mircea_popescu	heh k	[06:56]
cazalla	the fuck..	[06:56]
cazalla	wikipedia it is.. "In Australia and New Zealand, usually pejorative or self-deprecating, for a woman of loose sexual morals, a bitch, slut, or prostitute. The term can also be used for a girlfriend of a surfie or bikie."	[06:56]
mircea_popescu	so like sheila.	[06:56]
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cazalla	yeah sorta	[06:57]
mircea_popescu	o btw, you ever read my aussie pron story ?	[06:57]
cazalla	but sheilas can be molls or prudes	[06:57]
cazalla	not sure.. i read one about black dicks and some other weird shit, was a bit too far out there for me (sorta reminds me of the kid at school who never stfu about sex and knew far more than he should in all honesty)	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	haha lucky we're not in school	[06:58]
mircea_popescu	wait, it's jewish school. shit.	[06:58]
cazalla	copypaste, i spoke too late, it's already on TV	[06:59]
cazalla	free publicity btw, they named your site on tv heh	[07:00]
copypaste	lel	[07:10]
copypaste	i suppose they don't care so much about the uh	[07:10]
copypaste	"privacy of the ladies"	[07:10]
copypaste	as the other pubolications	[07:10]
copypaste	( ≖‿≖)	[07:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00042159 = 12.3104 BTC [+]	[07:14]
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funkenstein_	also i can look for 10^-4 torr vacuum providers	[12:10]
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asciilifeform	funkenstein_: while you're at it, compute the cost of a 10km^2 opaque bubble for me to live in there.	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	ahhh, another 2. at this rate i'll be rich!	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	oh yeah, and while at it alf, compute the cost of raising ten children off three different women, also sight unseen.	[12:11]
funkenstein_	pure diamond ok ascii?	[12:11]
asciilifeform	jurov: i can do without hard vacuum (hard enough to get it here)	[12:12]
asciilifeform	but not without the entire orchestra	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	because if we're doing the entire "here's some random shit i came up with, do planning for it", might as well.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	you know, naggum had a very unflattering piece re this approach, alf.	[12:12]
asciilifeform	the given example was anything but random.	[12:12]
mircea_popescu	something about norwegian meteorology.	[12:12]
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asciilifeform	it's back to the 'living vs existing' thread.	[12:12]
asciilifeform	why not i move to beijing straight to the jail?	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	"opaque 10skm bubble" is not random ?	[12:13]
asciilifeform	answer: i can sit in the american jail now!	[12:13]
asciilifeform	closer to home	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	forget that part.	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	you're not liable to get anywhere by simply following your own mental narrative in circles.	[12:13]
mircea_popescu	did you or did you not say 10 sqkm opaque bubble, and is it or is it not 15yo cocklet-ism	[12:13]
jurov	mircea_popescu: it comes out that if you ever decide to relocate alf, will need to manage it and provide usg-level amenities	[12:13]
asciilifeform	cartoon example, ferphuxxsake	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	no.	[12:14]
mats	lol	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	that's the exact problem in discussion here. you're freely mixing cartoons and footage, for a very lsd-looking example.	[12:14]
mircea_popescu	stick to one or the other.	[12:14]
asciilifeform	entire discussion isn't firmly grounded in reality. no one asked for me in shenzhen, or will.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	yes, the best dreams start with a twisted version of reality.	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	the worst dreams never end.	[12:15]
kakobrekla	jurov> alf now requires hard vacuum to live? < lmao	[12:15]
asciilifeform	live/exist	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if aiming to be a spherical chicken makes one transfat ?	[12:16]
asciilifeform	i have lived in cities. in crappy soviet dwellings, with little room to move, even. in order to do this again voluntarily i would want something very valuable in return. such as not having to work for a living ever.	[12:18]
asciilifeform	would have to stick to mathematics, probably. (can one even get unfiltered internet in shenzhen ?)	[12:18]
mircea_popescu	the notion that future you asks past you anything at all is very 16yo-ish female in kabul sort of thought. it's not how it works.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	"oh in order to put up with what my mother puts up with i will want blabla"	[12:19]
asciilifeform	no one asked me, aha.	[12:19]
asciilifeform	which is why the whole thing is an acid trip	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	nobody ever gave a shit. least of all the girly in discussion once she's 17.5	[12:19]
asciilifeform	the only thing i might be asked is if i'd like to be shot in the head or chest	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	dubious	[12:19]
asciilifeform	and that's only if interlocutor is feeling charitable.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	i remember some guy paying a lot of money for that sort of thing	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	and still not getting it	[12:19]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: aha!	[12:19]
asciilifeform	jack ketch took tips, famously!	[12:20]
asciilifeform	remember him	[12:20]
funkenstein_	vpn is slow over there but works as you'd expect	[12:20]
asciilifeform	as pictured in the well-loved 'baroque cycle' by n. stephenson	[12:20]
asciilifeform	little boys would earn pennies by pulling on legs of hanging men at tyburn	[12:20]
asciilifeform	(they paid on the gallows in advance)	[12:20]
asciilifeform	idk if i'll pay. what'll i do if the kid refuses to pull? negrate him as i swing ?	[12:21]
asciilifeform	at any rate, if the thread were about things that are ~likely to~ happen to me, vs 'what i'd like', it'd be much shorter and even more boring.	[12:22]
asciilifeform	as it is, i fully expect to envy the '16yo-ish female in kabul	[12:23]
asciilifeform	'	[12:23]
funkenstein_	and there's stephenson again today :D	[12:23]
kakobrekla	that girl dosnt get us or ru grade chocolate	[12:24]
asciilifeform	she does get to not be fed into a woodchipper feet first, for example	[12:24]
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asciilifeform	also the gurl has valuable illiquid asset.	[12:25]
kakobrekla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165947 dont see how this could be worse someplace else	[12:26]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 13:34:30; asciilifeform: given as presently i can't even afford to not have a day job which eats 98% of time & energy	[12:26]
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asciilifeform	kakobrekla: very easily. could, like 99.999% of the others, have this +plus+ no money	[12:26]
mats	http://yro.slashdot.org/story/15/06/11/1616215/ubers-rise-in-china-may-be-counterfeit << what i was referencing earlier	[12:26]
asciilifeform	(and no chocolate)	[12:26]
assbot	Uber's Rise In China May Be Counterfeit - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GONtWB )	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform if it's valuable, it's pretty sopping liquid alright	[12:26]
*	asciilifeform knew mircea_popescu would say this ^ !	[12:26]
asciilifeform	l0l	[12:26]
mircea_popescu	i just saw "love me or live me" last night. story of fucking america retold as being being built by a sucker labouring atop a dry cunt.	[12:27]
funkenstein_	my sources tell me uber is for 外国人	[12:27]
mircea_popescu	very innerving movie.	[12:27]
mats	somehow the 'we have a terrible business plan' has yet again transmogrified into the old 'omg the chinese are counterfeiting again' narrative	[12:27]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: it also matters ~what~ the 98% is spent doing	[12:28]
kakobrekla	for the price of your life	[12:29]
asciilifeform	everybody dies.	[12:29]
asciilifeform	can't buy out of it.	[12:29]
kakobrekla	your estimates are rather short.	[12:29]
asciilifeform	'life' per se isn't worth much.	[12:29]
*	funkenstein_ is happy some of that time is spent teaching the kids in b-a	[12:29]
kakobrekla	well you can do 2% cleaning toilets and 98% whatever else	[12:30]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: wake me up when cleaning toilet pays 1000/min	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	where's that cleaning toilets pic i had...	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	it actually paid something like 2k/session.	[12:30]
kakobrekla	the golden ones ?	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	but you'll have to get in shape, alf.	[12:30]
mircea_popescu	and i mean, tits and all.	[12:30]
asciilifeform	(and when magical fairy dust is sprinkled on planet so the 1000/minute cleaners do not move prices of anything at all)	[12:30]
asciilifeform	!s boys are worthless	[12:31]
assbot	0 results for 'boys are worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=boys+are+worthless	[12:31]
asciilifeform	!s boys worthless	[12:31]
assbot	0 results for 'boys worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=boys+worthless	[12:31]
asciilifeform	l0lwat	[12:31]
asciilifeform	i distinctly recall when mircea_popescu wrote this important truth	[12:31]
kakobrekla	!s girls worthless	[12:31]
assbot	2 results for 'girls worthless' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=girls+worthless	[12:31]
kakobrekla	ba search fight	[12:31]
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asciilifeform	and not toilet, but arse directly	[12:32]
mircea_popescu	incidentally this is pretty good http://41.media.tumblr.com/77fad6553eebe3a966ae330338774d5f/tumblr_netmudh2oj1u31v3yo1_1280.jpg	[12:32]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GOP26Q )	[12:32]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: prison tattoo ?	[12:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah, from the californy.	[12:33]
asciilifeform	(looks drawn with marker)	[12:33]
kakobrekla	it did say 'permanent' on the marker.	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	ohohohhhhohh http://40.media.tumblr.com/04851812b3a6940ce2fe539a341532ab/tumblr_nov5eeXrbc1uqdoi9o2_1280.jpg	[12:34]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GOPge6 )	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	annnd http://40.media.tumblr.com/5f304a0119aa3b6d726fda2ce9c9859b/tumblr_nov5eeXrbc1uqdoi9o3_1280.jpg	[12:34]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GOPf9W )	[12:34]
asciilifeform	will guess that schmuck fell down, drunkenly, and was 'illustrated' after his clothes were stolen	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	let jurov never say i don't have anything in this vein.	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	bwahahaha kakobrekla	[12:34]
mircea_popescu	http://40.media.tumblr.com/0c11d9aa7d5866207330a96f1df20689/tumblr_nov5eeXrbc1uqdoi9o5_1280.jpg last one with toyota monkey.	[12:34]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GOPnGA )	[12:34]
*	jurov 's not sying anything	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	is he hot btw ?	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	i know girly doing that number'd pretty much look hot regardless. but the straight me thinks it's rather disqualifying for a man.	[12:37]
midnightmagic	That moron should be wearing shoes, those rocks are sharp.	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic maybe it adds to the value proposition.	[12:38]
midnightmagic	"I can take a good sole-caning"?	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	something like that. prolly phrased by original author more in the vein of "i jus dun care!11"	[12:38]
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mircea_popescu	drive fast die young leaving a wholly pierced foot sole.	[12:39]
jurov	not my type, i'm more for bears	[12:40]
*	asciilifeform bbl, off to polish golden toilet	[12:40]
kakobrekla	do it with roughsandpaper.	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	in protest	[12:40]
kakobrekla	and collect.	[12:40]
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midnightmagic	Notice the lack of foot arches. I thought that was a sign of a lack of exercise.	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	flat feet's just the sign of peasantish genetics.	[12:41]
mircea_popescu	(and the original reason high heels were invented. if the girl's properly heeled, you can't tell)	[12:42]
midnightmagic	huh. could've sworn it was an exercise thing.	[12:42]
mircea_popescu	nah, all children are born with flat feet among numerous other diformities. some never grow out of it	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	like some never grow out of the other infantile deformities.	[12:44]
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mircea_popescu	"qntra.net is a rabid bitcoin maximalist blog, run by one of the permanent fixtures in the #bitcoin-asshats tribe.	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	These guys believe, without a trace of irony, that there will someday be no other currency than Bitcoin"	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	wait, we believe this now ?	[12:50]
shinohai	wut	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	i thought we were the only ones left that actually believe there is a place for scrip like usd & the rest of the fiats, doing roughly the job of movie tickets and coffee coupons	[12:51]
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mircea_popescu	meanwhile reddit iirc was rabidly "bitcoin must have endless blocks to be the only currency".	[12:51]
mircea_popescu	very weird what conclusions stupid ends up with.	[12:51]
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shinohai	If yu want rabid inflation that having no hard limits on blocks causes, try doge.	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	oh, wait, reddit was already publicly humiliated ?	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	no wait, that must be wrong. it was... oh... uh... iot was a DIFFERENT REDDIT!111	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	i didn't stomp all over their stupid faces those were different faces of different anon derps. this time it'll work!!!	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	etc.	[12:53]
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mircea_popescu	oh yes, reddit's real life hasn't begun yet!	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	i forgot that part.	[12:53]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165927 << this specific bit should be measurable no ?	[12:54]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 13:17:59; asciilifeform: you can pick up a textbook and write a dram controller for fpga from first principles - and it won't work. because, for starters, only a small number of output cells in the chip can function on both rising and falling edge of clock cycle (what 'ddr' means) and only xilinx's closed turd knows where they are in the routing fabric;	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	i am not for a moment arguing against the closed turdness approach ddram is wrapped in	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	just ftr.	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	(and similarly prop delays are an empirical phenomenon, cheaper to measure than to make a new chip)	[12:55]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165942 << i doubt you can look through a clear lid with a microscope and get much valuae. it'd have to be a pretty expensive lid.	[13:00]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 13:28:48; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^	[13:00]
mircea_popescu	made by zeiss	[13:00]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165957 << this is you know, like saying that "printed matter powered education is nonsense, it costs more to write the infolios than an entire campus of ivy league's worth". or, for that matter, "it takes more work to program a sound card than it takes to think through all the problems humanity has thought through so far".	[13:03]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 13:42:52; asciilifeform: midnightmagic: meanwhile please go and 'nanofabricate atom by atom'... one mosfet. (it's been done! so what if you need a 'gigabuck' of gear to crap out an item which is worth a nanopenny...) then get back to us	[13:03]
mircea_popescu	yes, that so far is right. the thing it fails to account for is that roads create traffic, not the other way around. it's not need that creates advance, as the idiots writing schoolbooks claim. the other way around.	[13:04]
mircea_popescu	and consequently this whole story is moot other than for the similarity with the past. it took the magical box allowing you to talk to people over the ethers a few decades to arrive starting in the 70s, or a few millenia to arrive starting pre caesar. in the interval, cellphones were mostly magic rings.	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	now we understand that retrospectively, the chord in phones is not a requirement but an anachronism, and we expect everything be available as wired or wireless at our option. but the wired/wireless dichotomy was not even meaningful to bell, or marconi.	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	yes they understood that you can send communication over wires or over waves. but they did not understand what they were doing was "sending communication" in these terms, or in short they were speaking in prose but unaware of what prose is.	[13:06]
mircea_popescu	so, im sure he has it. patience.	[13:06]
kakobrekla	patience and patients. so close.	[13:07]
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thestringpuller	has there been discussion here on BIP-100 yet?	[14:15]
thestringpuller	i don't see anything in the logs.	[14:16]
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kakobrekla	heh	[14:21]
kakobrekla	http://dpaste.com/0TF2ZGD.txt	[14:21]
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BingoBoingo	lol kakobrekla very small orders	[14:23]
kakobrekla	400k active users is everyone who ever visited their webpage + theri dog + webrobots	[14:23]
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mats	Unauthorized Cross-App Resource Access on OS X and iOS http://arxiv.org/pdf/1505.06836v1.pdf	[14:28]
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mats	note that this has been unpatched for ~6mos	[14:29]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166281 << everything is 'measurable.' but you have to be ~able to lay out the circuit physically~ rather than merely mathematically to get the guaranteed equal delays. as in, you have to have knowledge of ~all~ addressable part of the fpga.	[14:34]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 15:51:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165927 << this specific bit should be measurable no ?	[14:34]
ascii_field	i will remind readers that reversing fpga is not impossible, and has been done. but takes ~20 years and chip is usually unobtainable after 5-10 (sooner if vendor learns that you're doing this)	[14:34]
ascii_field	aaaand it is done by tearing apart the (x86) toolchain, rather than the chip	[14:34]
ascii_field	the entire thing, note, is built specifically around making this activity as unpleasant and expensive as possible.	[14:35]
ascii_field	(xilinx, altera, actel, etc. ~all~ make the bulk of their revenue by charging rent for 'properties' like 'the right to have a network card' in your fpga)	[14:36]
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menahem	;;later tell williamdunne it's live: https://koinswag.com/shop/bitcoin-t-shirt/mircea-popescu-bitcoin-t-shirt/	[14:36]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[14:36]
assbot	Mircea Popescu Bitcoin T-Shirt - KOIN ... ( http://bit.ly/1J4qV6o )	[14:36]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166285 << it most assuredly is not. and on top of it, as soon as you're anywhere near done, they make a new and entirely incompatible one.	[14:36]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 15:52:09; mircea_popescu: (and similarly prop delays are an empirical phenomenon, cheaper to measure than to make a new chip)	[14:36]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166286 << quartz	[14:37]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 15:56:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165942 << i doubt you can look through a clear lid with a microscope and get much valuae. it'd have to be a pretty expensive lid.	[14:37]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166294 << wtf - maxwell understood, and so well that he couldn't even be bothered to ~do~ it	[14:38]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 16:02:44; mircea_popescu: yes they understood that you can send communication over wires or over waves. but they did not understand what they were doing was "sending communication" in these terms, or in short they were speaking in prose but unaware of what prose is.	[14:38]
shinohai	Thank you menahem, I bookmarked. My world is not complete without a mircea popescu cult t-shirt.	[14:38]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166295 << the process to which the fool was referring IS NOT HAPPENING	[14:38]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 16:02:50; mircea_popescu: so, im sure he has it. patience.	[14:38]
ascii_field	no one is working on desktop ic fab.	[14:38]
ascii_field	not in any way that leaves any public evidence of itself whatsoever, at any rate!	[14:39]
ascii_field	(morons pulling their cocks in 'nanotech'-flavoured ways does NOT count as work)	[14:39]
ascii_field	it isn't happening or so much as credibly threatening to happen	[14:39]
menahem	bahaha shinohai - it was a must. :D	[14:40]
ascii_field	and the folks who have notions that it is, demonstrate a total black-as-night unmarred by any light ignorance of the physical basics involved	[14:40]
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shinohai	I want to take a picture of myself wearing it and post it to reddit to see how many downvotes I get :D	[14:40]
menahem	hahaha, imagine a team of us.	[14:41]
mats	you're embarrassing	[14:42]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166286 << Aaaalso - you don't need to distinguish features to prove homogeneous circuit. can use... optical comparator (ask a machinist. 1910s tech.)	[14:43]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 15:56:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165942 << i doubt you can look through a clear lid with a microscope and get much valuae. it'd have to be a pretty expensive lid.	[14:43]
ascii_field	(homogeneous - per 'specificity of diddling' theorem)	[14:43]
menahem	mats, whom ?	[14:45]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166292 << today we learn that mircea_popescu is actually an immortal (greek?) god and reasons in the timescale of immortal being	[14:50]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 16:01:16; mircea_popescu: and consequently this whole story is moot other than for the similarity with the past. it took the magical box allowing you to talk to people over the ethers a few decades to arrive starting in the 70s, or a few millenia to arrive starting pre caesar. in the interval, cellphones were mostly magic rings.	[14:50]
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funkenstein_	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166318 <-- and Atmel too on satellites? How does this work in practice, do you buy schematics?	[14:56]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 17:32:11; ascii_field: (xilinx, altera, actel, etc. ~all~ make the bulk of their revenue by charging rent for 'properties' like 'the right to have a network card' in your fpga)	[14:56]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: the way it works is that there is literally no way to build a 'bitstream' (as the configs are called) for a chip without using vendor's turd toolchain	[14:57]
funkenstein_	which requires, logging into server or something?	[14:57]
ascii_field	and if you want, e.g., a 100BaseT nic, or sdram controller, it has to be laid out mainly by hand using floor plan of the particular chip and explicit coordinates. which vendor can do, and you (user) cannot.	[14:57]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: no, it runs on pc	[14:58]
ascii_field	think several GB of obfuscated crud	[14:58]
funkenstein_	so, the turdchain phones home?	[14:58]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: some of them - this too	[14:58]
ascii_field	but a properly-cracked one will not	[14:59]
funkenstein_	that is fucked btw.. why can't they charge for the hardware?	[14:59]
funkenstein_	yeah that was my next question :)	[14:59]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: they -also- charge $maxint for the hardware	[14:59]
ascii_field	who said they didn't	[14:59]
ascii_field	price some of the larger xilinx chips	[15:00]
ascii_field	well into 4-digits usd	[15:00]
ascii_field	some - 5	[15:00]
funkenstein_	so properly cracked turds will get you out of the extra charges for.. using the hardware you paid for?	[15:00]
ascii_field	(and only a paid-up, to the tune of 100K+ usd, or well-cracked, xilinx toolchain, will even talk to the $200-300 ones)	[15:01]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: the extra charges, but not the retardation	[15:01]
ascii_field	(of having to use the gui, every time you get a slightly variant chip, and of never coming remotely close to understanding wtf is in the black box)	[15:01]
ascii_field	considering that to me, the ~whole fucking point~ of fpga is to get a computer which ~i and only i~ define	[15:02]
ascii_field	it's a total scam.	[15:02]
funkenstein_	wow, no wonder the era of fpga mining didn't last long	[15:03]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: aaaactually	[15:03]
ascii_field	it continues	[15:03]
kakobrekla	has nothing to do with it.	[15:03]
ascii_field	!s hard copy asic	[15:03]
assbot	2 results for 'hard copy asic' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hard+copy+asic	[15:03]
ascii_field	today's 'asics' are scams	[15:03]
funkenstein_	ah ha	[15:03]
ascii_field	(they are fpga with hardcoded metallization layer)	[15:03]
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kakobrekla	!up ascii_field	[15:04]
kakobrekla	eh srsly	[15:04]
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ascii_field	kakobrekla: at the very least, every single one of the ~publicly sold~ chips, afaik, fits this description as per the published specs.	[15:05]
kakobrekla	yeah just that the era of fpgas he meant was over purely because of economics	[15:06]
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funkenstein_	"In your labyrinthine journey, [..] in the world of iron, learn to catch the thought behind the machine or it will swallow you."	[15:08]
ascii_field	kakobrekla: 'hard copy fpga' has fixed metal, rather than sram LUTs for routing matrix. so slightly faster (and significantly cheaper to manufacture) than ordinary fpga	[15:08]
ascii_field	but it is still not a true asic, because the pieces are not movable	[15:08]
ascii_field	which is to say, they are all over the place and connected by the equivalent of very long wires	[15:09]
funkenstein_	so the big guns aren't out yet	[15:09]
ascii_field	and you don't have the ones you might like, but solely the ones the chip came with from xilinx etc	[15:09]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: they are out, but belong to usg & its antipodal counterparts	[15:09]
ascii_field	not to schmucks on the street	[15:09]
funkenstein_	and are they firing?	[15:10]
ascii_field	funkenstein_: mircea_popescu and the little birds who whisper in his ear say 'yes'	[15:10]
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ascii_field	me, how the fuck would i know	[15:10]
ascii_field	the only fact ~i~ know is that the network hash sum does not even begin to be accounted for by even the most liberal estimate of miner machines publicly sold to date	[15:11]
ascii_field	but this is known to ~everyone~, even homo redditicus	[15:11]
ascii_field	make of it what you will.	[15:11]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166265 << didja have quack snake-oil 'cures' for flat feet in ro ?	[15:13]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 15:40:28; mircea_popescu: nah, all children are born with flat feet among numerous other diformities. some never grow out of it	[15:13]
ascii_field	we sure did in su	[15:13]
punkman	"In addition to calling for resignations, Lieu asked OPM to show some remorse. “One word I haven’t heard is sorry,” Lieu said. “When is OPM going to apologize to federal employees?”"	[15:18]
punkman	http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2015/06/opm-will-soon-notify-new-wave-workers-their-data-was-hacked/115441/	[15:18]
assbot	OPM Will Soon Notify New Wave of Workers Their Data Was Hacked - Pay & Benefits - GovExec.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPhZj6 )	[15:18]
ascii_field	“When is OPM going to apologize to federal employees?”" << 'when the crayfish whistles on the mountain, and the fish in the sea begin to sing' (tm) (r) (ru)	[15:19]
punkman	"Rather than immediately encrypt data, OPM plans to reduce the number of computer users with access to systems and require multistep login verifications, she said. OPM's fiscal 2016 request for congressional funding asks for an additional $21 million"	[15:20]
punkman	they are gonna get paid of course	[15:20]
ascii_field	meanwhile, http://cryptome.org/2015/06/cia-john-brennan-financial.pdf http://cryptome.org/2015/06/dni-james-clapper-financial.pdf << mircea_popescu tell me again how these buggers are 'poor'	[15:21]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GPiqK7 )	[15:21]
punkman	"The day after the breach was made public, OPM finalized a more than $20 million deal with Winvale Group to start notifying individuals "within 48 hours of award.""	[15:21]
ascii_field	^ and this is just the ~publicly disclosed~ income	[15:22]
*	ascii_field l0lz re: herr clapper owning facebook stock	[15:22]
ascii_field	http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nsa-susan-rice-financial.pdf << see also	[15:24]
mircea_popescu	o holy log lol.	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	!up tcrypt	[15:25]
-assbot-	You voiced tcrypt for 30 minutes.	[15:25]
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ascii_field	http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-magical-content-tree.html << where herr orlov contemplates cribbing mircea_popescu's 'pay per article' thing	[15:25]
assbot	ClubOrlov: The Magical Content Tree	[15:25]
mircea_popescu	we wish him luck...	[15:26]
ascii_field	i don't think they have bitcoin on his planet yet, though	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	tho... didn't he just beg a few k's recently to buy himself a new mayo dildo or something ?	[15:26]
ascii_field	15k	[15:26]
ascii_field	diesel	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	what more does he want exactly ?	[15:26]
ascii_field	looks like he has... 14,314	[15:27]
ascii_field	(goal 15,956)	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	iirc baseline is a dollar a day, so... there's his lifetime income	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	what more does he want.	[15:27]
ascii_field	wai wut	[15:27]
ascii_field	baseline ?	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[15:27]
ascii_field	for whom? beggar in calcutta ?	[15:27]
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mircea_popescu	earht average.	[15:27]
ascii_field	earth average is a bacterium.	[15:28]
mircea_popescu	this is what we are proceeding on, right ? "human"	[15:28]
ascii_field	i don't think they've invented begging yet	[15:28]
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ascii_field	btw as a long-time reader of herr orlov, i can't help but notice that he spat on diesels and bragged about a seldom-used ('only in doldrumss') outboard petrol engine	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	aha	[15:31]
ascii_field	but then he birthed a son, and bought a boat 2x the size	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	i vaguely recall this, like i vaguely recall his being the sort that's "correct in the broad strokes but entirely out of small change" as the expression goes.	[15:32]
ascii_field	(and perhaps doesn't quite have the stamina to single-handedly operate the sails any more ?)	[15:32]
mircea_popescu	god help you if you start factchecking anything he says. very yarvinesque habit this	[15:32]
ascii_field	he wrote a whole piece about how he threw the decrepit diesel out of the original boat's bilge to make a storage room	[15:32]
ascii_field	for those who are ~not~ readers of mr o - his 'post-collapse future business' schtick is based on 'fossil-fuel-free freight along u.s. coasts using sailboats'	[15:34]
ascii_field	apparently now is not yet the time to practice this ?	[15:35]
ascii_field	or what, he likes the smell of diesel smoke ?	[15:35]
funkenstein_	"But this is the new lay of the land; we can't change it, and we can't ignore it."	[15:36]
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mats	har, acquaintances are receiving emails about their OPM file being compromised	[15:36]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[15:36]
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ascii_field	can't wait for the fake ones	[15:37]
ascii_field	(how do you propose to authenticate the 'leaks' ?)	[15:37]
ascii_field	'we ALWAYS knew he was obama's gay playmate!!11'	[15:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [BTR] 1000 @ 0.00111 = 1.11 BTC	[15:40]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166431 << ftr the 'dollar a day' thing is nonsense if you compute even the most conservative monetary estimate for the 'systematic' things the beggar was born with.	[15:40]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 18:24:08; mircea_popescu: earht average.	[15:40]
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ascii_field	e.g., kin, street smarts learned from boyhood, etc.	[15:41]
ascii_field	!s gemeinschaft	[15:41]
assbot	1 results for 'gemeinschaft' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gemeinschaft	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field seinfeld has an episode about this fundamentally female method of authentication ("i always wanted for him to drag me by the hair in this alley and stretch my anus"). elaine explains that "Cause if we're dating, what everyone saw was just a beautiful moment between two lovers"	[15:41]
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E8888____	elgrecoFL EPiSKiNG- eric evilthomas Evolyn_ execut3	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	and you don't "compute the dollar equivalent value" of non-dollar things, because you're not trying to recreate the bezzle.	[15:42]
ascii_field	well sure	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	instead, you either have tyhem or fucking die.	[15:42]
ascii_field	but you ~also~ don't say 'beggar is living on $1/day'	[15:42]
ascii_field	because this is not factually correct	[15:42]
mircea_popescu	factually, it is correct.	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	politically, it is inconvenient.	[15:43]
ascii_field	he is living on $1 of rice + $xxxx of other-things-which-aren't-available-to-me-if-i-get-parachuted-into-calcutta	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	but factually, it is correct.	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	tough. that just means you suck	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	it does not mean his dollar is not a dollar.	[15:43]
ascii_field	on how many dollars a day does pufferfish live in the sea ?	[15:43]
ascii_field	even less than $1	[15:43]
ascii_field	we ~all~ 'suck' compared to him ?	[15:43]
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mircea_popescu	not a valid comparison.	[15:44]
funkenstein_	just not as free	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	you are proposing the indian is not human now ?	[15:44]
ascii_field	not a category i deal with	[15:44]
ascii_field	because not idempotent	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	let me put it this way :	[15:44]
ascii_field	(as shown above)	[15:44]
ascii_field	he cannot funciton in my element. or i - in his. like the fish.	[15:45]
funkenstein_	the calcutttan has no option to go to supermarket dumpster	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	the notion that you are anything different from the calcutta beggar may be contemplatef IF and ONLY IF you never have to wonder what'd you do in calcutta.	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	otherwise, a dollar a day.	[15:45]
ascii_field	ever contemplate what you'll do 1km below the sea?	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	never have to wonder either because you know or it can't happen, but never have to wonder.	[15:45]
ascii_field	can easily happen	[15:45]
ascii_field	boats sink	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	i'd drown.	[15:45]
ascii_field	and so do airplanes	[15:45]
ascii_field	aha, drown like gentleman ! (Tm) (R) (brit empire)	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	what would you do ?	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	compute the dollar value ?	[15:46]
ascii_field	same!	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	so then	[15:46]
ascii_field	bubble a bit.	[15:46]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:46]
ascii_field	i imagine i'd bubble a bit in calcutta as well, before going under.	[15:46]
ascii_field	(for how long is anyone's guess)	[15:46]
ascii_field	but i don't imagine that i'll learn to breathe water and become kind of the ocean in a few weeks. and if mircea_popescu can do this, we should all learn from him.	[15:49]
ascii_field	*king	[15:49]
mircea_popescu	the ocean has nothing to do with it.	[15:49]
ascii_field	obligatory old thread >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-04-2015#1094169	[15:53]
assbot	Logged on 09-04-2015 20:47:43; ascii_field: mircea_popescu could convince an eskimo that he is an eskimo ?	[15:53]
punkman	http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2015/06/16/2132043/bitcoin-opec-favours-8mb-blocksize-increase/	[15:54]
assbot	Bitcoin Opec favours 8MB blocksize increase \| FT Alphaville ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPnQVq )	[15:55]
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ascii_field	^^ does not display for me	[15:55]
ascii_field	punkman ^	[15:55]
ascii_field	dpaste plz ?	[15:55]
punkman	http://dpaste.com/1R2X0V7	[15:56]
assbot	dpaste: 1R2X0V7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPo5Qu )	[15:56]
ascii_field	ty punkman	[15:56]
punkman	"opec"...	[15:57]
scoopbot_revived	Eulora Resurgent http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-resurgent/	[15:57]
ascii_field	lulz. 'bitcoin opec.' where is bitcoin nato? is it invading ru yet ?	[15:57]
ascii_field	and what of the bitcoin vatican ?	[15:57]
ascii_field	does it bugger boys ?	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	wtf is "opec"	[15:57]
ascii_field	www.opec.org << the usual opec ?	[15:57]
mircea_popescu	can these gawker-clones be any more fucking retarded already ?>	[15:58]
mircea_popescu	by now they're reporting nonsense out of a whjolly imagined pseudoreality	[15:58]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: and they were not, 2+ yrs ago ?	[15:58]
ascii_field	it was ~always~ a pseudoreality, from at least william randolph hearst and up	[15:59]
ascii_field	just that they previously had more luck with gluing pseudoreality-display helmets on people's heads	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	there's a lot of difference between the mild idiocy of hearst and the down syndrome of "ft alphaville" etc	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	about the same as between the calcutta beggar and the pufferfish	[16:00]
ascii_field	more like the diff b/w/ mild eccentricity and full blown schizo	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	right.	[16:00]
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ascii_field	'The bitcoin miners of China agree that the blocksize must be increased' << l0l wat? said who ?	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	in other news a display campaign for eulora started today, if any people called Eulorian show up treat 'em mildly. and if no such show up, well... it just goes to show the value of advertising.	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field "ft alphaville"	[16:01]
ascii_field	incidentally, who even has a crashless validating node with 1mb blocks	[16:02]
ascii_field	(other than us)	[16:02]
ascii_field	speaking of which,	[16:02]
ascii_field	mod6: how are those test rigs doing ?	[16:02]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: ^ ?	[16:03]
ascii_field	other sappers ?	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field "the bitcoin miners of china" say that they never saw software that doesn't crash	[16:03]
ascii_field	who is ready for the next cut of the scalpel ?	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	how do you know it's software if you don't reboot it ?	[16:03]
ascii_field	how do you know washing machine is plugged in if you don't get shocks from touching the chassis ?	[16:04]
mircea_popescu	ikr ?	[16:04]
punkman	the stamped "bitcoin opec" document http://i.imgur.com/JUnQcue.jpg	[16:06]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1SoP4Gl )	[16:06]
ascii_field	sometimes i wonder if folks in cn are ~actually~ batshit (mega-mines on winblows, etc) or just convincingly faking it	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field if you had more experience chasing gaw/bfl/assorted mining scams	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	you'd be in a better position to grasp the depth of this chasm of a dilemma	[16:06]
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mircea_popescu	generally speaking they are both.	[16:06]
mircea_popescu	!up ascii_field	[16:07]
-assbot-	You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes.	[16:07]
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mircea_popescu	ahahaha what the shit red star stamps srsly ?!	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the validity of the stamps would be trivial to verify, if of course anyone still gave a shit about the nonsense scampress publishes.	[16:08]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: l0l!	[16:08]
ascii_field	you know what those are??!?!	[16:08]
ascii_field	import stamps!	[16:08]
ascii_field	i have some here	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	but 500 failures in... hey, wasn't ethereum all over everything ?	[16:08]
ascii_field	from 'golden phenix'	[16:08]
ascii_field	same red start	[16:08]
ascii_field	those are customs-inspector stamps	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field yes i know what those are, i pay five to six figures to china each month k ?	[16:08]
ascii_field	anyone with a fucking potato can lift it	[16:08]
ascii_field	aha	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	unlike apparently everyone on the retard side, i actually have some business experience	[16:08]
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ascii_field	even a schmuck like me has a fat manila full of these stamps.	[16:09]
*	mircea_popescu sits here and wonders if neobee, king of cypruss, agrees for cypruss to join the increase movement.	[16:09]
ascii_field	and did i just land in my grandfather's office in 1985 , fell through time warp? how did we come to wonder about authenticity of fucking soviet rubber stamps ?!	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	iirc according to financial times, they took over cyprus right ?	[16:09]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field we are dealing with ~= the same idiots.	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	later generation, unimproved.	[16:10]
funkenstein_	looks to me like they are saying they won't take anything bigger than 8MB, because their tubes are too small	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	i remember a day, not so many years ago, when people actually went on trips to check out claims of "hey i goit some images in photoshop" miners. how much things have changed in these few short years...	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	from the log, "I think we will close this thread as there is nothing more to discuss. This is not about democracy or censorship, but about keeping our hobby alive without authorities enforcing new laws in order to limit ADS-B usage."	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	fucking ridiculous. "oh, we will get a bitcoin license to keep our hobby alive!11"	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	fuck you, fucking hobbists	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	the world does not belong to people "doing it ironically"	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	who ever heard of this, change the rules of the sport so people following at home can be more comfortable.	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1165993 << i lolled.	[16:16]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 13:58:39; asciilifeform: and often there are interesting hidden costs. for instance, i am somewhat limited in what surplus junk i can use on account of lacking 3-phase mains power	[16:16]
ascii_field	^ said mircea_popescu as he sizzled in his very own private 3-phase electric chair	[16:17]
ascii_field	luxuriously	[16:17]
ascii_field	(point of that observation was, 3-phase mains and climate-controlled floor sq. metrage do not become cheaper no matter how 'surplussy' the equipment gets)	[16:19]
ascii_field	'speaks volumes for the actual “democracy” in the system. (Namely, there isn’t any. China — the Saudi Arabia of bitcoin — dominates.' <<< l0l!!! this of course is same party line as in mike hearn's blatherings about 'let's separate the economy majority of bitcoin from the whims of the hashing majority'	[16:21]
ascii_field	*economic	[16:21]
ascii_field	'we usg gnomes are to have control, because fuck you and ~democracy~ and also fuck you'	[16:22]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166571 << many usg subjects see the crown in much the same light as little children see their demented violent alcoholic father	[16:28]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 19:10:50; mircea_popescu: from the log, "I think we will close this thread as there is nothing more to discuss. This is not about democracy or censorship, but about keeping our hobby alive without authorities enforcing new laws in order to limit ADS-B usage."	[16:28]
ascii_field	'please don't upset him, you know what happens'	[16:28]
ascii_field	other thing is	[16:31]
ascii_field	what, precisely, would be the mechanism for encrypting airplane callsigns ?	[16:31]
ascii_field	sent to public key with private modulus kept in every airport?	[16:31]
ascii_field	what about non-nato airports ?	[16:32]
ascii_field	why shouldn't ru air defense battery open up with all barrels on a 'mystery meat' airplane which won't identify owner ?	[16:32]
ascii_field	like that korean tub	[16:33]
danielpbarron	menahem, your paypal doesn't work and your bitcoin wants me to send to an invalid address	[16:33]
menahem	danielpbarron i just saw	[16:33]
menahem	not sure why I got the error, lemme double check quick. my apologies.	[16:33]
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danielpbarron	it redirected me to sandbox.paypal.com which tells me that my password is incorrect	[16:33]
menahem	ok ty. i'll be back shortly.	[16:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00044528 = 6.7015 BTC [+] {2}	[16:34]
danielpbarron	and by "invalid address" i mean that i'm not about to do business with someone who insists I acknowledge "multi sig" is a thing	[16:34]
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ascii_field	;;later tell mircea_popescu mega-lulz >> http://cryptome.org/2015/06/masses-goats-dogs.pdf >> http://dpaste.com/1Z43RQN.txt	[16:35]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[16:35]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GPtUNU )	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field it reads to me like a very plain "let's try and hijack b-a by pretending a bigger ba exists somewhere exotic and we are the only ones able to translate its red star stamps"	[16:35]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GPtSFM )	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	which is... endearing.	[16:35]
ascii_field	usg sop.	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	anyway. i'll allow the shitmedia to set the discussion agenda the morning after i let gavin impregnate my wife.	[16:36]
ascii_field	l0l	[16:36]
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thestringpuller	!up ascii_field	[16:37]
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mircea_popescu	no but srsly, who wouldn't want retarded children looking like him.	[16:38]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: BIP-100 looks like it will create Garzik coin.	[16:38]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166007 << the junior high alf went to... :D	[16:40]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:03:47; asciilifeform: (does 'mean free path' mean anything to you ? or slept in 4th grade ?)	[16:40]
*	funkenstein_ has heard tell of a time when people wrote RFCs	[16:41]
ascii_field	http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/kinetic/menfre.html	[16:41]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GPuKdu )	[16:41]
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mircea_popescu	!up WvuSoldier	[16:42]
-assbot-	You voiced WvuSoldier for 30 minutes.	[16:42]
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WvuSoldier	ty	[16:42]
thestringpuller	I like how they publicized BIP-100 with "This won't require a hardfork" while the PDF clearly states "Oh yea guise we need to remove the cap completely to make this change."	[16:43]
*	ascii_field now wonders what mircea_popescu gets from cn by the tanker-load	[16:44]
ascii_field	( http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166559 )	[16:44]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 19:04:54; mircea_popescu: ascii_field yes i know what those are, i pay five to six figures to china each month k ?	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field vacuums not my forte, but is the following ever done : have a solid cylinder separated into two closed rooms by piston. fill one room with chemical compounds in liquid pahse which react, so the resultant volume is lower.	[16:44]
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mircea_popescu	theoretically should vacuum the other room to soem degree	[16:44]
ascii_field	react endothermically, and forming a solid ?	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	for instance	[16:45]
ascii_field	this is done in the craft of making vacuum tubes. (recall the shiny metal in the top of the tube?)	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	aha	[16:45]
ascii_field	called 'getter'	[16:45]
ascii_field	typically - cesium.	[16:45]
ascii_field	important not only for residual gas in the tube after pumping, but also because the electrodes sputter	[16:46]
ascii_field	(vapour pressure in the tube ~will~ go up with time unless the gas has somewhere to get stuck in)	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	no such thing as infinitely bound material yet discovered	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	should go in there same pile as ideal conductor	[16:48]
ascii_field	aha	[16:49]
ascii_field	even glass has vapour pressure at stp !	[16:49]
ascii_field	see the epic saga of 'polywater'	[16:49]
jurov	iirc graphene is impervious even to helium	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	it will still scater atoms	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	this is a quantum necessity.	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	(for fun and games the trainee qm folk in attendance are invited to set up either the matrix or the waveform so that probability of solid losing atoms into gas at border is zero, see what happens)	[16:51]
ascii_field	l0l!	[16:51]
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ascii_field	http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/polywater_history_and_science_mistakes_the_u_s_and_ussr_raced_to_create.html << a not-especially-great english review of the 'polywater' story.	[16:53]
assbot	Polywater history and science mistakes: The U.S. and USSR raced to create a new form of water. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPwcfK )	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	is this the very thick water ?	[16:53]
ascii_field	aha	[16:54]
ascii_field	the one in which the glass vessels themselves dissolved a little.	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	i recall family friend being very insulted by my dad laughing his ass off	[16:54]
ascii_field	(along with other room crud)	[16:54]
ascii_field	in other news, i dreamed last night that ft meade had been turned into a kind of city-state, and i came through it for some peculiar reason. it very crowded and full of rough-looking folks, like d.c. subway. went into a pub, full of demented old beggars, and pulled out a wad of 'nsa money' - shit-brown 'hundies' with portraits of some senator on them. in return got glass of water.	[16:57]
scoopbot_revived	Examinations vs. the Yeshiva http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/17/examinations-vs-the-yeshiva/	[16:57]
ascii_field	there was some utterly deranged bloke yelling 'buy me a bed!!!'	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	sounds like you would enjoy playing fallout	[16:59]
ascii_field	i did.	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell pete_dushenski the hunag fellow is exactly the right example. i even hinted at him but never mentionmed the name when discussiong o'brian idiocy in 1984 and how the rebellion properly works.	[17:02]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	always a pleasure to see people able to refer to the right source material.	[17:02]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166044 <<< check the aussie national skill shortage and come down under.. i've never been to choina but i'm guessing down under is a bit better	[17:02]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:39:34; mats: will probably end up moving back to mainland	[17:02]
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ascii_field	'(875 – 884 AD) when Huang Ch’ao, a powerful young heir to a family fortune, was unable to pass the rigorous exams needed to become a licentiate. He responded by selling salt on the black market and using the funds to organise a secret society with which he incited rebellions that massacred nobles and officials and nearly, thought not quite, brought down the ruling entire dynasty.' << this has been my secret crackp	[17:06]
ascii_field	ipe dream since uni, yes.	[17:06]
ascii_field	i specifically wish to drive the bulldozer personally	[17:06]
mats	lol	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:07]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[17:08]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field is emerging like quite the tragic, byronian hero. on one hand, wishes to drive the dozer, on the other hand, wishes to have a place for noli tangere.	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	should be a libretto.	[17:08]
ascii_field	hey, marvin heemeyer did both!	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	why stop there.	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	do three things.	[17:09]
ascii_field	http://marvin-heemeyer.com	[17:09]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GPy7RA )	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	while juggling pregnant seals.	[17:09]
ascii_field	elephants.	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	seals pregnant with elephants ?	[17:10]
ascii_field	with walruses.	[17:12]
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mircea_popescu	cazalla BingoBoingo http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3a6m7i/a_prepostmortem_on_bitpay/ << check it out, you're now thought leaders of teh community	[17:14]
assbot	A pre-post-mortem on BitPay : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1GPyUlC )	[17:14]
ascii_field	speaking of vacuum 'diffusion pumps' - apparently there are firms selling them, from old uni chem kits, as 'bongs' to smoke weed from	[17:23]
ascii_field	e.g., http://mellowmood.com/bates-x-worm	[17:24]
thestringpuller	great find mircea_popescu	[17:24]
assbot	Bates x Worm - Mellow Mood ... ( http://bit.ly/1GgbK2U )	[17:24]
thestringpuller	"It’s like an economy where the investment is coming from some external country where Silicon Valley becomes like the Bitcoin equivalent of People’s Bank of China." << because Nefario ruined it for everyone	[17:24]
menahem	danielpbarron PayPal is up - had it in test mode. My bad.	[17:25]
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ascii_field	it was the diffusion pump (esp. langmuir's improved one) which allowed the whole vacuum tube thing to happen in the first place.	[17:25]
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mircea_popescu	!up blazes816	[17:27]
-assbot-	You voiced blazes816 for 30 minutes.	[17:27]
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shinohai	All these pools http://redd.it/3a5qj5	[17:27]
assbot	Draft signed by F2Pool, Antpool, BW, BTCChina, Huobi committing them to a 8MB increase. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ggc6qu )	[17:27]
mircea_popescu	see teh logs.	[17:27]
shinohai	will do. I have tons of reading to catch up on this evening.	[17:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59300 @ 0.00044529 = 26.4057 BTC [+]	[17:29]
cazalla	shinohai, lol that image reminds me of another which someone on bitcointalk claimed to be a police report regarding asicminer thefts.. turned out to be a birth certificate or something	[17:29]
shinohai	LOLZ	[17:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00043172 = 10.1022 BTC [-] {2}	[17:33]
TheNewDeal	how bad of any idea is it to short btc/ltc over a short term period	[17:36]
ben_vulpes	hey, the tradetalk's back!	[17:36]
TheNewDeal	-y	[17:36]
ascii_field	TheNewDeal: ltc still exists ?!	[17:37]
TheNewDeal	oddly enough, aye	[17:37]
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mircea_popescu	TheNewDeal not worse or better than ever	[17:37]
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ben_vulpes	aha is midnightmagic derping on about things beyond his ken today?	[17:44]
ben_vulpes	or yessterday or something?	[17:44]
ascii_field	worst of all, he gave me an intractable urge to blow glass	[17:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00044529 = 5.2544 BTC [+]	[17:47]
kakobrekla	maybe procedures in experimental physics did it	[17:48]
ascii_field	sure did	[17:48]
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ben_vulpes	also the gurl has valuable illiquid asset. << not so valuable if illiquid	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	hahaha	[17:57]
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mircea_popescu	read the logs :D	[17:57]
shinohai	13-06-2015 00:30:49 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162846 << gotta love usg. always 'chinese wreckers stole,' never 'microshit turdows spilled' (agrees)	[17:57]
assbot	Logged on 12-06-2015 23:44:37; trinque: http://m.phys.org/_news353350213.html	[17:57]
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ben_vulpes	can't read whole log without responding	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	just pulling your leg over here	[17:59]
ben_vulpes	s/without/before	[18:00]
ben_vulpes	what is it? great artists steal?	[18:00]
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ascii_field	achtung, panzers:	[18:01]
ascii_field	http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000098.html	[18:01]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JYM5RY )	[18:01]
shinohai	ty asciilifeform	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166048 << well i don't know so many people in china, so... good news :D	[18:03]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:40:42; mats: mainland china	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field aha	[18:03]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes: i would like to nominate above patch (and its dependency, dns-seed-remover) for mainline	[18:04]
shinohai	I haven't applied those patches yet :/	[18:05]
ben_vulpes	noted	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166066 << this is a strict function of sexual promiscuity in my experience. being chaste is pretty suicidal at all times other than during the age of boredom	[18:05]
ascii_field	shinohai: the linked patch is 5 minutes old	[18:05]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:47:41; jurov: also, i don't get how anyone in this age can not have some foreign acquaintances that one can be sure to not throw him under the bus	[18:05]
ben_vulpes	i'm still working to get the damn thing to build on ubuntu	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes 10.04	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	?	[18:06]
shinohai	@ ben_vulpes it built fine for me on 14.4	[18:06]
ben_vulpes	most recently, boost failed to install because its html document rendering facility was b0rked in ubuntu somewhere and the whole thing fell over	[18:06]
shinohai	*14.04 lts	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	hahahah	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	"my car crashed because there was a flyer in a window painted in green letters"	[18:07]
shinohai	But I must ask, why Ubuntu?	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	because it means anal friendship in african.	[18:07]
ascii_field	^ i had similar barf from openssl	[18:07]
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mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166096 >> nah, that's a different dimension. chocolate spontaneously combusts	[18:10]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:57:39; asciilifeform: can i get real (read: ru or identical) chocolate there? at what cost/gram ?	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	this is how the locals know if it's any good	[18:10]
ascii_field	l0l	[18:10]
ascii_field	and yes, i know that mircea_popescu can get ru chocolate delivered via biplane right to his dirigible in antarctica.	[18:11]
ascii_field	doesn't apply to my case.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	yea, you never ordered anything online	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	all those dongs were bought at indian candy's chocolateria	[18:11]
ascii_field	said the fella living in can't-order-anything-online-land	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	tbh i never ordered anything online in romania, either.	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	i don't even order takeout	[18:13]
ascii_field	i barely ever get anything in any other way	[18:13]
ascii_field	(because wtf, leaving house, and paying tax?!?!)	[18:13]
shinohai	If Amazon delivered groceries in my area, I might never leave home.	[18:14]
cazalla	shinohai, the two main supermarket chains in australia do this.. and it's how they get rid of the rest of their shitty produce	[18:16]
ascii_field	i'd get toilet paper, etc. on 'amazon' if it weren't for the fact that everything you buy affects your 'recommendations'	[18:16]
ascii_field	and i don't want to see ads for shitpaper in my mailbox	[18:16]
shinohai	I like farmers markets though. Fresh organic veggies if possible.	[18:17]
ascii_field	produce over mail is a nonstarter	[18:17]
ascii_field	(for morons - sure)	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field myeah, uber does seem like the usgs last gasp effort to "socialism" the cabbuie business	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	which i would loathe, as i routinely reject living anywhere with shitty cabs	[18:19]
ascii_field	the cabs in usa sucked before.	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	boston was ok	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	ny was even above par.	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	the west coast never interested me much	[18:19]
jurov	have amazon buttons?	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	texas was great.	[18:19]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: know that 'uber' etc. is an attempt to 'proletarianize' cabs. as they normally are so costly here that they are beyond the regular use of all but the richest	[18:21]
ascii_field	(e.g., an hour's ride might cost a whole benjie)	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	i dunno dood. what was it, two-three bucks a mile ?	[18:22]
kakobrekla	going 600 miles per hour obviously	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	germany is ridoinculous with their 5 euro a km bs, but then again germany is usually walkable.	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	how much would they have to pay ME to spend an hour in a cab with any regularity ?	[18:23]
ascii_field	airport much ?	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	yeah, five times a year.	[18:24]
ascii_field	so there you go	[18:24]
jurov	i don't remember using taxi from/to airport	[18:24]
ascii_field	the cabs in b-a blew my mind	[18:25]
ascii_field	(because cheap)	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	the half hour typical ride is what, five bux	[18:26]
ascii_field	in wash., d.c. ?! nope	[18:26]
ascii_field	opening the fucking door costs >5bux	[18:26]
ascii_field	http://dctaxi.dc.gov/page/taxicab-fares << 3.25 according to official table	[18:27]
kakobrekla	lol at that price list	[18:28]
ascii_field	it would cost me ~$80 to get home in a cab right now.	[18:30]
ascii_field	(assuming ~empty~ roads)	[18:30]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: i thought you didn't drive	[18:30]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: i drive 2-4 hrs/day.	[18:30]
thestringpuller	how have you not killed someone?	[18:30]
thestringpuller	(Via rage)	[18:31]
ascii_field	almost half as long as a cabbie drives	[18:31]
thestringpuller	is there traffic?	[18:31]
kakobrekla	how many miles ?	[18:31]
mats	http://www.opm.gov/our-inspector-general/reports/2014/federal-information-security-management-act-audit-fy-2014-4a-ci-00-14-016.pdf	[18:32]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1N3RR4X )	[18:32]
ascii_field	thestringpuller: so much traffic 'can eat with arse'	[18:33]
thestringpuller	sounds like DC or LA...	[18:33]
mod6	<+ascii_field> mod6: how are those test rigs doing ? < << If you mean the bitcoin-v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patch(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke + TX Orphanage Amputation }, they were performed on AWS deb6 instance and have since been shutdown after full sync & performance tests completed. Main reason being to dig into compiling v0.5.3.1 + gentoo sanity patches with uclibc on Gentoo on AWS Gentoo instance. I try to only run one instance at a time to keep monthly	[18:33]
ascii_field	kakobrekla: ~70/day assuming i go nowhere else (buying food, detours around jams, etc)	[18:33]
kakobrekla	2-4 hrs for 70 miles	[18:34]
kakobrekla	sad.	[18:34]
shinohai	mod6 my nide is still humming fine	[18:34]
mod6	I could start it back up again and do something else if you like. But have finally gotten a guide created for Gentoo on Physical hardware. It needs 2 general tweaks (to be put in tonight) before I hand over to hanbot for testing.	[18:34]
shinohai	*nide	[18:34]
shinohai	I hate touchscreen keyboards. I really do.	[18:35]
thestringpuller	ascii_field: damn. 20 mph average speed?!? i would have to pop anxiety pills.	[18:35]
ascii_field	kakobrekla: the sad is in having to leave home at all. everything else is just little cherries on top of the sadcake	[18:35]
mats	We were told in an interview that OPM's Network Management Group (NMG) performs monthly vulnerability scans using automated scanning tools. The OIG is unable to independently verify that OPM has a mature vulnerability scanning program. However, we have been unable to obtain tangible evidence that vulnerability scans have been routinely conducted for all	[18:35]
mats	OPM servers in FY 2014… NMG has documented accepted weaknesses for OPM user workstations; however, it has not fully documented weaknesses for servers or databases (i.e., vulnerability scan findings that are justified by a business need). This recommendation remains open from FY 2011 and is rolled forward in FY 2014.	[18:35]
mod6	So once the Guides are handed over to hanbot, I'll refocus my attention to patching gcc 4.8.4 on Gentoo to see if we can get around that bug that we were discussing the other day.	[18:36]
ascii_field	mod6: which bug ?	[18:36]
mod6	lemme find the logs..	[18:37]
mod6	well, nevermind that. this one:	[18:38]
mod6	/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../../x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-gentoo-linux-uclibc/4.8.4/../../../libc.a(jmp-unwind.os): relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against undefined symbol `__GI___pthread_cleanup_upto' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC	[18:38]
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mod6	<+shinohai> mod6 my nide is still humming fine << cool. is that the ubuntu one?	[18:43]
shinohai	Nah the Debian one, I built Ubuntu on a friends server	[18:43]
mod6	ahh. ok.	[18:45]
shinohai	The Deb one stays up all the time, I just leave it running since I need a daemon anyway.	[18:46]
mod6	good deal :]	[18:53]
mats	http://www.wsj.com/articles/colt-defense-to-file-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-by-monday-1434310925	[18:58]
assbot	Colt Defense Files for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Protection - WSJ	[18:58]
mats	http://time.com/3923842/putin-kubinka-moscow-patriot-park-russia-opens-a-military-playground-for-the-patriotic	[18:59]
assbot	Russia Opens 'Patriot' Theme Park to Showcase MIlitary Prowess ... ( http://bit.ly/1N3XkbR )	[18:59]
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ascii_field	achtung, panzers!	[19:02]
ascii_field	http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000099.html	[19:02]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1N3XRe2 )	[19:02]
ascii_field	ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al ^	[19:02]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45800 @ 0.00043298 = 19.8305 BTC [-]	[19:02]
ascii_field	picture little gavins squealing on a chopping block.	[19:03]
ascii_field	does it not warm your cold iron heart !?	[19:03]
ascii_field	i'm half-certain that last one actually removes a vuln	[19:04]
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mod6	ah cool :]	[19:07]
ascii_field	this is part of a sequence of patches which depend on one another	[19:08]
ascii_field	(dns seed remover, hard seed remover, and now showmyip,com-remover)	[19:08]
ascii_field	next one will nuke all dns lookups entirely	[19:08]
mod6	yup, i see that. thanks for linking them in the patch emails.	[19:08]
mod6	great work ascii.	[19:09]
ascii_field	these are given in separate patches for ease of review	[19:09]
mod6	nod	[19:09]
mod6	makes sense. thanks.	[19:09]
ascii_field	i consider this to be a necessary thing	[19:09]
mod6	yeah, that stuff is 100% cruft.	[19:09]
ascii_field	i.e. everything inside a patch file must pertain only to what was 'printed on the box', and vice-versa.	[19:09]
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ascii_field	ty mod6	[19:11]
mats	http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-06/18/c_134335445.htm	[19:11]
assbot	China, Russia to increase bilateral investment, financial cooperation - Xinhua \| English.news.cn	[19:11]
mod6	np. so, i'm gonna keep focus on this Gentoo GCC patching stuff for the time being. But meanwhile I do that on my POS box (Now running Gentoo AMD64 hardened w/uclibc), I can shutdown the Gentoo aws instance and fire-up a deb6 test with these new patches before the end of the month I'm sure.	[19:12]
ascii_field	mod6: might wanna wait for the final nail in the dns coffin	[19:12]
mod6	That's fine. Take your time. It won't take long to get that going anyway.	[19:13]
shinohai	17:59 +ascii_field picture little gavins squealing on a chopping block. <<< This	[19:14]
mod6	:]	[19:14]
mats	'Obama admitted that nine months into the U.S.-led coalition's campaign against the IS, there is not a complete strategy to combat the group. "We don't yet have a complete strategy," Obama said at the end of a G-7 summit in Germany'	[19:15]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20205 @ 0.00042666 = 8.6207 BTC [-] {3}	[19:29]
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ascii_field	to fully scrub out the dns invocations, will have to make the irc connector configurable on command line	[19:43]
ascii_field	this will be a substantial change in default behaviour, because the thing ~will~ have to be given irc server params on command line, and/or seed ips, or ~will not run~	[19:43]
ascii_field	i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd	[19:44]
ascii_field	but if anyone can make a good case for its removal (remember that presently it is also the source of node knowing own external ipv4 !!!) please say.	[19:44]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166824 << apparently dead instantly on account of losing favour with usg.	[20:03]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 21:54:21; mats: http://www.wsj.com/articles/colt-defense-to-file-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection-by-monday-1434310925	[20:03]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166826 << famous tank museum	[20:04]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 21:55:45; mats: http://time.com/3923842/putin-kubinka-moscow-patriot-park-russia-opens-a-military-playground-for-the-patriotic	[20:04]
mats	mighta had a chance if privately owned by black disabled lesbian	[20:07]
mats	o, can't forget veteran	[20:07]
ascii_field	'Following a drawn-out and contentious bidding war, Colt lost its contract to provide the Pentagon with M4 rifles in 2013. The $77 million contract went instead to a Belgian company, F.N. Herstal.'	[20:07]
ascii_field	^ l0l!!	[20:07]
ascii_field	and when belgium is overrun again?	[20:07]
ascii_field	i imagine they will have to ask for new bids.	[20:07]
mod6	<+ascii_field> to fully scrub out the dns invocations, will have to make the irc connector configurable on command line << not that this has to be the case now, but perhaps this could be done in the config file too.	[20:09]
mats	not the first time Colt has lost a contract to F.N. Herstal	[20:09]
ascii_field	mod6: config file or commandline	[20:09]
ascii_field	but ~somewhere~	[20:09]
mod6	<+ascii_field> i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd << i'm with you here... although, just looking through irc.cpp again.. im not sure how much of that would carry over anyhow.	[20:09]
ascii_field	after this, there will be no default seed	[20:09]
mod6	<+ascii_field> but ~somewhere~ << yup, gotcha. just putting in my 0.00000002	[20:10]
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mats	also not the first time they've filed for bankruptcy	[20:11]
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kakobrekla	would a dedi ba seed be welcome?	[20:13]
mod6	<+mod6> <+ascii_field> i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd << i'm with you here... although, just looking through irc.cpp again.. im not sure how much of that would carry over anyhow. << regardless, it doesn't mean we have to rip it out this minute. how insane of an idea is it to just snip out the checkip.dyndns.org parts and add a commandline/configfile arg to specify external ip for incom	[20:14]
mod6	<+kakobrekla> would a dedi ba seed be welcome << yeah, i think that's the idea eventually.	[20:14]
mod6	oop	[20:18]
mod6	!up ascii_field	[20:18]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166883 << we'll need more than one	[20:21]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 23:09:27; kakobrekla: would a dedi ba seed be welcome?	[20:21]
ascii_field	and it makes no sense to even try before the leak-stoppage patches are ratified	[20:21]
ascii_field	(i don't want ~anything~ to do with a leaking node)	[20:21]
ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166884 << you can ~already~ specify seeds on cmdline and config! all that remains is the removal of the built-in seeder crap	[20:25]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 23:10:19; mod6: <+mod6> <+ascii_field> i'm in favour of keeping the irc mechanism for now, because it will handily transplant to gossipd << i'm with you here... although, just looking through irc.cpp again.. im not sure how much of that would carry over anyhow. << regardless, it doesn't mean we have to rip it out this minute. how insane of an idea is it to just snip out the checkip.dyndns.org parts and add a c	[20:25]
ascii_field	of these, we now have only irc remaining	[20:26]
ascii_field	(assuming all three patches discussed today were to be ratified)	[20:26]
ascii_field	and i say 'hey hey, ho ho,' dns 'has got to go!'	[20:27]
shinohai	I'm down for the irc mechanism, i really like it but not as it is now	[20:27]
ascii_field	shinohai: elaborate ?	[20:27]
mats	lol	[20:28]
shinohai	Earlier you mentioned the ability to specify peers, etc and use raw irc commands correct?	[20:28]
shinohai	If I understood correctly	[20:28]
ascii_field	shinohai: just the ability to specify what it connects to	[20:28]
ascii_field	and, perhaps, what channel	[20:28]
shinohai	hmmm mkay	[20:28]
ascii_field	btw it is also valuable because presently irc is a very handy means of finding pre-gavinization seeds	[20:28]
ascii_field	i expect this will change, suddenly and possibly undetectably, once they start fucking with it	[20:29]
ascii_field	(i.e. connecting gavinized nodes masquerading under old version strings)	[20:29]
shinohai	I failed to see that before BingoBoingo pointed out the obvious benefits of finding pre-gavinized nodes with it.	[20:29]
ascii_field	thing is, anyone can set version string to whateverthefuck they like	[20:30]
shinohai	ascii_field: are you limited as to what data you can put in the version string?	[20:31]
mod6	<+ascii_field> << you can ~already~ specify seeds on cmdline and config! all that remains is the removal of the built-in seeder crap << sure, you can do addnode or whatnot to connect to other nodes. but isn't the dyndns thing to tell others what your nodes ip address is? maybe i misunderstand ...	[20:32]
ascii_field	shinohai: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_documentation#version	[20:32]
assbot	Protocol documentation - Bitcoin Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1dL9WZd )	[20:32]
shinohai	I mean, their must be some way to identify trusted clients	[20:32]
ascii_field	mod6: it was a fallback if irc fails	[20:32]
ascii_field	shinohai: trusted == folks you know personally	[20:33]
ascii_field	and even this, only after we get it carried over gossipd	[20:33]
ascii_field	at present, there is no way to authenticate a node	[20:33]
mod6	<+ascii_field> mod6: it was a fallback if irc fails << oh or if -noirc is used or something?	[20:33]
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ascii_field	or if irc fails to connect	[20:33]
mod6	i see, ok.	[20:34]
ascii_field	see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=06-05-2015#1122714	[20:34]
assbot	Logged on 06-05-2015 17:21:23; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122612 << it's actually a fine entry point to explain to anyone why exactly tcp/ip is so broken. because this IS NOT a trivial task. the price for ipv4 and it's undocumented, buggy, slow and haphazardously ad-hoc nat-routing model is that you can't find out by inspecting yourself. the half-assed, quarter-baked lazy slothful and aol-windo	[20:34]
cazalla	copypaste, front page of the #1 aussie tabloid http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/intimate-photos-of-around-400-adelaide-women-have-been-posted-on-a-us-site-in-revenge-porn/story-fnjwmwrh-1227403257763	[20:38]
assbot	Revenge porn: Nude photos of 400 Adelaide women posted online ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjUgY0 )	[20:38]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: a researcher is me !	[20:59]
pete_dushenski	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218550.0 << i lolled	[20:59]
assbot	[WTS] Stuff for non-profits ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjW57a )	[20:59]
pete_dushenski	i recognise 'thebutterzone' from -otc	[20:59]
pete_dushenski	pretty sure he had half the listings last i checked	[20:59]
pete_dushenski	btw, wd on the logs today, gents. solid reading material.	[21:00]
pete_dushenski	"First two (DVD, CD) are used and play fine, 2nd two are sealed new (all DVDs). for each before shipping, and a $60 donation for each will be made to this pro-civil rights coalition that Zooey Deschanel, Nancy Sinatra, Michael Moore, and Joel McHale all oppose." << y'know, this could only work on tardstalk	[21:01]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166073 << unless you find a bear named "Mr. Employment"	[21:05]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:49:18; jurov: i don need no fucking employment	[21:05]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166060 << lmao. sarcastic aaaand true.	[21:06]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 14:46:46; mats: yes the executions are a big plus	[21:06]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166763 --> http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/23/want-to-drive-for-uber-first-you-need-to-make-some-mistakes/	[21:07]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 21:15:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field myeah, uber does seem like the usgs last gasp effort to "socialism" the cabbuie business	[21:07]
assbot	Want to drive for Uber ? First, you need to make some mistakes. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjWZkb )	[21:07]
pete_dushenski	uber is easily half the price of a cab here.	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	also, edmonton has uber and calgary, a larger city 300km south, doesn't	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	"illegal" there.	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	normal cabs are flat out unaffordable for regular use.	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	uber... isn't	[21:08]
pete_dushenski	though i'm flabbergasted that asciilifeform drives 2-4 hrs PER DAY !	[21:09]
pete_dushenski	in case anyone thought this guy wasn't shiva reincarnate, think again.	[21:09]
ascii_field	it's roughly half the price of a cab pretty much everywhere, by design.	[21:10]
ascii_field	pete_dushenski: i didn't used to. worked mostly from home for a long time	[21:10]
cazalla	i'm sure i've mentioned it before but cabbies go around performing citizen's arrest on uber drivers down under	[21:10]
pete_dushenski	he's in #b-a an easy 6 hours per day. solid. plus cardano. plus phuctor. plus '98% busy'	[21:11]
ascii_field	eh #b-a is on own lcd	[21:11]
ascii_field	'background thread' in head.	[21:11]
pete_dushenski	ascii_field: eh, same here :)	[21:11]
pete_dushenski	but i guess now we know where cardano delivery went : commuting	[21:11]
pete_dushenski	on the highway, 2-4 hours per day	[21:12]
ascii_field	sometimes i log in from the car.	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	pet drives ?	[21:12]
ascii_field	nope	[21:12]
ascii_field	never learned how.	[21:12]
pete_dushenski	then YOU ARE SHIVA	[21:12]
kakobrekla	only if shiva was alien	[21:13]
ascii_field	i offered many times to teach her to drive, but she was sharp enough to grasp that this meant 'more chores' and didn't bite	[21:13]
kakobrekla	alf will not be put in front of execution wall but dissected for studies	[21:14]
BingoBoingo	!b 3	[21:14]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1ZR2D5R.txt )	[21:14]
kakobrekla	i think if just fuckued your bash	[21:14]
BingoBoingo	No, you just extended it	[21:15]
BingoBoingo	was only going to bash 2	[21:15]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-06-2015#1166826 << would visit. been meaning to check out st. petersburg anyways. near enough.	[21:17]
assbot	Logged on 17-06-2015 21:55:45; mats: http://time.com/3923842/putin-kubinka-moscow-patriot-park-russia-opens-a-military-playground-for-the-patriotic	[21:17]
pete_dushenski	back in a sec.	[21:18]
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mod6	!up assbot	[21:19]
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mod6	bah	[21:19]
mod6	!up ascii_field	[21:19]
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mod6	<+ascii_field> sometimes i log in from the car. << i can just imagine you driving around the beltway with your knee irc'ing from a phone.	[21:20]
ascii_field	usually at dead stop	[21:20]
mod6	hah s/driving/parking/	[21:20]
ascii_field	http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nsa-travel-2014.pdf << lulzies! includes an expense item, someone took a trip to an event titled 'all girls, all math'	[21:21]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1BjY8Z7 )	[21:21]
mats	http://www.math.unl.edu/programs/agam	[21:22]
assbot	All Girls/All Math \| Department of Mathematics \| University of Nebraska–Lincoln ... ( http://bit.ly/1BjYgaY )	[21:22]
mats	summer maths camp.	[21:22]
ascii_field	sponsors: '... nsa'	[21:22]
BingoBoingo	Nebraska, like Ohio a place that when USia is scrapped can be sold to the dirt	[21:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122750 @ 0.00043129 = 52.9408 BTC [+] {2}	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	so there was a blood gorged mosquito on the wall. as i didn't want to leave a splotch, i hit it in such a manner as to only dizzy it. i can now disable-shot mosquitors.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	does this qualify me for a black belt or something ?	[21:31]
ascii_field	this is sop where i live	[21:31]
ascii_field	perhaps the new ones have harder carapace	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	first one i've seen in a month or two	[21:33]
ascii_field	i encountered a good number of mosquitoes in b-a but none bit me. couldn't help but think of the old sf stories re: creatures on alien planet unable to eat (or be eaten by) us on account of wrong protein chirality	[21:34]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 259400 @ 0.00042478 = 110.1879 BTC [-] {5}	[21:36]
BingoBoingo	I tend to just... clean up the blood. They are disease carrying organisms and deserve nothing but lethal intent.	[21:36]
mircea_popescu	you know colt made some pretty kickass pistols.	[21:37]
ascii_field	once upon a time.	[21:37]
ascii_field	but now they're something like 'atari'	[21:37]
mircea_popescu	i suspect the usg policy against private small arms has finally found the chokehold : drive the manufacturers out of business.	[21:37]
ascii_field	a name without a body	[21:37]
ascii_field	afaik colt did not actually manufacture anything, in own factories, other than usg orders, for some years (decades?)	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	i consider this to be a necessary thing << it is.	[21:38]
ascii_field	but used subcontractors in turdworld	[21:38]
ascii_field	so colt ~= atari.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	this will be a substantial change in default behaviour, because the thing ~will~ have to be given irc server params on command line, and/or seed ips, or ~will not run~ << this is the wrong approach. config file, with sane defaults.	[21:38]
mircea_popescu	never, ever, EVERY may any input be required from the user imperatively.	[21:38]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: sane defaults produced how?	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	user has the option to provide input, program that depends on input to run was shipped broken	[21:39]
BingoBoingo	i suspect the usg policy against private small arms has finally found the chokehold : drive the manufacturers out of business. << Most of the good "Colt" designs are now made better by others. Argentinas Taurus is one.	[21:39]
ascii_field	presently thing ships with no config	[21:39]
ascii_field	and no mechanism to copy it to user's homedir	[21:39]
ascii_field	if we had node(s) running, could supply this default.	[21:39]
ascii_field	presently - we do not.	[21:39]
mircea_popescu	mighta had a chance if privately owned by black disabled lesbian << no. belgian firm has to import weapons, so they can be kept off mnarket. colt does not hyave to import anythinfg, can just turn around and sell. the usg will award no further contracts for anything to anyone who can also sell to us civillians, jus watch.	[21:40]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: ... program that depends on input to run was shipped broken << L0L!! 'cat' ships broken ?	[21:40]
mircea_popescu	very similar situation to the entire "we don't spy on citizens, the brits did, as part of an agreement we made with them, so whatcha gonna do"	[21:40]
ascii_field	^ dates back to '90s 'echelon' and not at all secret	[21:41]
ascii_field	(the 'five eyes eyeing one another' thing)	[21:41]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field if it doesn't have a -Y mode (assume y on all questions) yes.	[21:41]
ascii_field	everything depends on input	[21:43]
mats	i don't know much about how procurement and acquisitions works	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	mno.	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/a0b21db7f61f3860f5eac1b1e51afd35/tumblr_nq3kdrsamT1sgfmbuo2_500.jpg	[21:43]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1BjZCSY )	[21:43]
ascii_field	but basic point - yes - need nodes, so can have usable default	[21:43]
mats	i'm under the mistaken impression that USG only gives contracts to US corps	[21:44]
ascii_field	mats: belgium is in the reich, therefore just as good as florida etc	[21:44]
mats	particularly those related to defense	[21:44]
mats	oh i see	[21:44]
BingoBoingo	but basic point - yes - need nodes, so can have usable default << As weaponixation approaches a suggested .conf updated occasionally may be welcome for maintained nodes but harder for pogo "fire and forget" nodes	[21:45]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: presumably those will rely heavily on 'last seen' cache.	[21:45]
ascii_field	but yes, the initial seeds ~must~ work.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	default as in, default for irc.	[21:46]
ascii_field	and it is entirely insufficient to have merely one or two of them.	[21:46]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: at present time the irc routine is, notice, still in. complete with idiot hardcoded hostname	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	myah	[21:48]
ascii_field	was thinking of tearing out the hardcoded hostname in favour of ip:port read from config	[21:48]
ascii_field	(which - yes - will have to be filled in on initial run)	[21:48]
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ascii_field	thing is, i fucking hate magic constants	[21:49]
ascii_field	hardcoded	[21:49]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[21:49]
*	assbot gives voice to ascii_field	[21:49]
BingoBoingo	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-06-2015#1161193 << The entire just get a bic and why not butane business is what's wrong with computing. Experimental pocket firebox (in contrast to one with the girl and the ass) has lit when offered everything from 40% ETOH to decade old Kerosene	[21:50]
assbot	Logged on 11-06-2015 17:13:25; ascii_field: (butane lighters have existed for what, half a century now ?)	[21:50]
ascii_field	thing should come with a suggested config, yes. and it is the responsibility of the installer (gentoo 'emerge' or whatever) to emplace it.	[21:50]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: i occasionally light blowtorches, gas-fired soldering irons, etc. can only use a) match b) butane lighter	[21:51]
ascii_field	a petrol or naptha wick lighter dries out if left alone for six months between uses.	[21:51]
BingoBoingo	naptha/petrol lighter dries out within 2 weeks. Bless that the fuel is cheap.	[21:52]
ascii_field	but worthless to me	[21:52]
ascii_field	because wtf	[21:52]
ascii_field	matchbox beats it for 'minimum effort.'	[21:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 45984 @ 0.00004 = 1.8394 BTC [-] {5}	[21:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92450 @ 0.00044425 = 41.0709 BTC [+] {4}	[21:52]
BingoBoingo	But what if you need to torch dupont circle? Will a tiny butane flame from a bic catch of the straw roofs in humid conditions?	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	matchbox indeed is often ideal	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	paper books of matches often still better than box	[21:53]
ascii_field	straw roofs lol	[21:53]
BingoBoingo	High R-values, you know the building codes will promote them soon	[21:55]
pete_dushenski	"Jimmy Lee was a vice chairman at JPMorgan Chase and was widely credited with developing the leveraged loan market in the United States." << dead at age 62.	[21:56]
pete_dushenski	same age as putin for whatever that's worth	[21:56]
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BingoBoingo	;;ud american fist	[21:57]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The+American+Fist \| The American Fist. * When you fist a girl so hard and so deep it causes her to pass-out. * Shove it loud, and shove it proud. I really should have token my ...	[21:57]
BingoBoingo	^ unlikely 'Murican nao	[21:58]
pete_dushenski	"The Royal Bank of Scotland said on Wednesday that about 600,000 customer transactions had not been processed as a result of a technology failure overnight. The issue affected transactions at the company’s R.B.S., National Westminster Bank, Coutts and Ulster Bank brands." << wasn't there an old meme about 'bitcoin users not affected' ? seems appropriate here.	[21:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7550 @ 0.00044638 = 3.3702 BTC [+]	[21:59]
BingoBoingo	!t m s.mpoe	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00040954 / 0.00043001 / 0.00044638 (1624630 shares, 698.62 BTC), 7D: 0.0003539 / 0.00040764 / 0.00044638 (15483015 shares, 6,311.60 BTC), 30D: 0.00024411 / 0.00033126 / 0.00044638 (117802097 shares, 39,023.80 BTC)	[22:00]
pete_dushenski	https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxxXk1d3yyuZOFlsdkNMSGswSGs/view << or why you shouldn't use an operating system 'keychain' to store your passwords	[22:03]
assbot	report.pdf - Google Drive ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk0V4h )	[22:03]
pete_dushenski	"Unauthorized Cross-App Resource Access on MAC OS X and iOS" ^	[22:03]
ascii_field	keychain?	[22:03]
pete_dushenski	password storage manager	[22:03]
ascii_field	like the 'yubikey' turd mtgox shipped ?	[22:03]
pete_dushenski	autofills credentials	[22:03]
ascii_field	ah	[22:03]
pete_dushenski	built into os	[22:04]
pete_dushenski	'always on'	[22:04]
ascii_field	sounds terminally braindamaged to begin with	[22:04]
ascii_field	and convenient sack of 'crown jewels' for whoever pwns the box	[22:05]
pete_dushenski	and, not unsurprisingly, terminally common	[22:05]
BingoBoingo	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2514	[22:05]
assbot	JL: ‘The European Age’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk14Vr )	[22:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39259 @ 0.00044638 = 17.5244 BTC [+]	[22:06]
pete_dushenski	"Tony Clement @TonyclementCPC "Confirmed today that Govt of Canada GC servers have been cyberattacked. Until full service is restored please use 1-800-OCanada." 11:59 AM - 17 Jun 2015 "	[22:09]
pete_dushenski	bwahahha	[22:10]
ascii_field	GC?	[22:10]
ascii_field	garbage collector ?	[22:10]
pete_dushenski	lol!	[22:10]
pete_dushenski	i think clement is being redundant.	[22:11]
pete_dushenski	'anonymous' has laid claim, citing 'bill c-51'	[22:11]
pete_dushenski	c-51 is some cyberterrorism baloney	[22:12]
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pete_dushenski	the dinner guests (rare treat, this) will be here momentarily so i must depart for the evening. bon soir a tous !	[22:13]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2512	[22:17]
assbot	JL: Steak and Eggs for Breakfast ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bk2EXx )	[22:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58600 @ 0.00044638 = 26.1579 BTC [+]	[22:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36236 @ 0.0004355 = 15.7808 BTC [-]	[22:19]
*	BingoBoingo impressed someone seems to exceed even trilema in writing pace	[22:19]
*	assbot removes voice from ascii_field	[22:20]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[22:21]
*	assbot gives voice to ascii_field	[22:21]
ascii_field	BingoBoingo: /dev/random also exceeds it	[22:21]
ascii_field	as does my arse	[22:21]
ascii_field	i'd still rather read trilema	[22:21]
BingoBoingo	Indeed. Still suprised by such documentation of urban 'Murican decline	[22:27]
*	BingoBoingo still scours lafond site for information which may aid 11 year plan	[22:31]
BingoBoingo	In other news the first of the daisies are opening today.	[22:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 116000 @ 0.00044687 = 51.8369 BTC [+] {4}	[22:39]
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BingoBoingo	I offer lafond fumbling over the corn plan in action http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2533	[22:44]
assbot	JL: The Hoodrat Hatchery ... ( http://bit.ly/1d2Dyk4 )	[22:44]
*	assbot gives voice to trinque	[22:44]
trinque	so web browsers are gonna run binaries now eh?	[22:45]
trinque	http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/google-microsoft-mozilla-and-others-team-up-to-launch-webassembly-a-new-binary-format-for-the-web/	[22:45]
assbot	Google, Microsoft, Mozilla And Others Team Up To Launch WebAssembly, A New Binary Format For The Web \| TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1d2DAZ2 )	[22:45]
trinque	what could go wrong	[22:45]
ascii_field	l0l microshit at the table	[22:46]
BingoBoingo	trinque: No, not so long as lynx lives. This is just the next stem from js.asm	[22:46]
trinque	ascii_field: they just wanna give the web a nice hug	[22:46]
ascii_field	just when we thought 'flash' had finally died	[22:46]
trinque	and google's clearly taking a page from old microshit 90s tactics	[22:46]
trinque	knew NaCL was going to be activex-google-edition	[22:47]
ascii_field	thing is, classic js, for all the turdaliciousness, was 'too debuggable' for usg tastes.	[22:47]
BingoBoingo	Lafond's excellent take on ISIS http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=2531	[22:47]
assbot	JL: ‘They Took Out Entire City Blocks' ... ( http://bit.ly/1QF1wo7 )	[22:47]
trinque	ascii_field: right, did you also see (I think I put it in the logs) Apple's move to compile to apps to an intermediate bytecode, which is then transformed to whichever back-end machine code?	[22:48]
trinque	*to compile apps	[22:48]
ascii_field	eh they use stock llvm	[22:48]
ascii_field	it sorta does this already	[22:48]
trinque	ah ok	[22:49]
ascii_field	yes, i get it, everybody wants to copy microshit	[22:49]
trinque	looked like a move where you "sign" your release, but then they can diddle endlessly at the final step	[22:49]
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ascii_field	and all sorta of unsavory actors relish a mandated compile into a poorly-understood, sloppily-implemented instruction set for which there are no quality reversing tools	[22:50]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31064 @ 0.0004355 = 13.5284 BTC [-]	[22:50]
trinque	If this sounds depressing, do not worry. We will finally get to see how our Abrams Main Battle Tank holds up under state of the art airstrikes—because, ISIS now has 10 of those suckers and 100 more Humvees! << lol	[22:51]
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trinque	BingoBoingo: I can see an angle on the entire middle eastern expedition right there	[22:52]
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trinque	permanent training ground and excuse to expend (and replace!) equipment	[22:52]
BingoBoingo	trinque: Also, practice for Texas treaty secession	[22:53]
BingoBoingo	!up ascii_field	[22:53]
*	assbot gives voice to ascii_field	[22:53]
trinque	lol	[22:54]
trinque	yeah, I can see that point too	[22:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38126 @ 0.0004248 = 16.1959 BTC [-] {2}	[22:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95774 @ 0.00041823 = 40.0556 BTC [-] {3}	[22:57]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28900 @ 0.00042852 = 12.3842 BTC [+]	[23:16]
*	shovel_boss_ has quit (Quit: Leaving)	[23:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35750 @ 0.00041729 = 14.9181 BTC [-]	[23:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47400 @ 0.00041241 = 19.5482 BTC [-] {2}	[23:33]
mircea_popescu	aaannnnd in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0954fb8bce8dbda84c8979f18e581cfe/tumblr_nptqm20yoj1uojgsco1_1280.jpg	[23:42]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GgVFds )	[23:42]
BingoBoingo	Those are some small balls	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	lol i guess so huh	[23:47]
cazalla	mebe he was in the pool	[23:48]
mats	https://fairygodboss.com	[23:49]
assbot	Company reviews by women, for women \| Fairygodboss ... ( http://bit.ly/1GgWC5o )	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	trinque> knew NaCL was going to be activex-google-edition << word.	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	"the nihilist ISIS Islamist horror show" heh. some kids not giving a shit about these kids circlejerk does not actually enact them into some sort of objective absolute.	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	they're simply some kids that don't give a shit about a particular set of conventional nonsense	[23:53]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00043205 = 11.1253 BTC [+] {2}	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	anyway, to take a page out of alf's book, "we will know terminal decline stage by this sign, that ivy-limp bureaucrats will organise tranny beheading parties and then gather the heads in a sack and take them to isis, as a ritual sacrifice. much to everyone's confusion and wtf in that camp."	[23:55]
BingoBoingo	;;google dolezal	[23:55]
gribble	Rachel Dolezal's brother: She's 'making up more lies' - CNN.com: ; Rachel Dolezal, ex-NAACP leader: 'I identify as black' - CNN.com: ; Rachel Dolezal's brother, author Joshua Dolezal, faces trial for ...: (1 more message)	[23:55]
BingoBoingo	Apparently the Clarence Thomas fellow can be trans-white, but this blonde chick can't be trans-black	[23:56]
trinque	ahahaha	[23:56]
*	BingoBoingo making good progress on my efforts to be trans-mexican.	[23:56]
trinque	I'm a goddamn steamboat	[23:57]
trinque	why not?	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	!b 5	[23:57]
assbot	Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1J316ES.txt )	[23:57]
BingoBoingo	Fuck you Imma Dragon	[23:57]
trinque	lol	[23:58]
trinque	what wonders will "I identify as" bring next	[23:58]
BingoBoingo	Not really, but did "La Bamba" during Saturday night karaoke and rando polo wearing ham asked me if I did yard work. Fucker was purpised when I started offering prices.	[23:58]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90500 @ 0.00044975 = 40.7024 BTC [+] {2}	[23:59]

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