Forum logs for 17 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu benkay: [05:55]
mircea_popescu essentially it is naked shorting derps? // peterl yea // how does this square with your recent pronouncements against naked shorting? << division by 0 is a problem, 0 divided by 0 is not. [05:55]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03:95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad <<< ahaha heard this before [05:56]
mircea_popescu ahaha get a load of this [06:00]
mircea_popescu Michele Hernandez, another prominent admissions counselor, runs one or more sessions of an Application Boot Camp every summer in which roughly 25 to 30 kids will be tucked away for four days in a hotel to work with a team of about eight editors on what she told me were as many as 10 drafts of each of three to five different essays. The camp costs $14,000 per student. That doesn’t include travel to it, the hotel bill [06:00]
mircea_popescu , breakfast or dinners, but it does include lunch and a range of guidance, both before and during the four days, on how students should fill out college applications and best showcase themselves. [06:00]
mircea_popescu Hernandez, Jager-Hyman and others in the booming admissions-counseling business [06:00]
mircea_popescu booming ? fucking scam, 15k for nothing. [06:00]
mircea_popescu “Admissions officers pay as much attention to students’ choice of essay topic as they do to the details in their essays,” Motto told me. [06:00]
mircea_popescu i'd be fucken surprised if anyone ever read one of those things [06:00]
BingoBoingo Mats_cd03:95% of my time has been consumed by reading ncurses docs. drives me mad <<< ahaha heard this before << at least ncurses has docs... unlike gnome [06:01]
Apocalyptic when we go into space, real estate prices on earth will crash [06:01]
Apocalyptic poor people will live better [06:01]
Apocalyptic what shit can people come to these days... [06:01]
mircea_popescu lol [06:05]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo gnome prolly doesn't actually exist at all [06:05]
mircea_popescu just an insider joek [06:05]
BingoBoingo I'm starting to think that to an extent people can find use for Desktop environments over windowmangers, Xfce may be where it is at. [06:06]
BingoBoingo Actually has decent separation of things. [06:08]
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mircea_popescu !up napedia [06:21]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate napedia 1 I got a fan. [06:21]
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asciilifeform gnome!? [06:25]
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* asciilifeform must've woken up in 2002 [06:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 15k for nothing << surprisingly few people are aware of an interesting scam the 'ivy' unis run [06:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they make it virtually impossible for a kid to flunk [06:26]
mircea_popescu i bet they do [06:27]
asciilifeform (various means. sometimes direct diddling of grades, some even abolished grading for first years; many methods) [06:27]
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asciilifeform while in public unis, at least in hard sciences, 40-50% flunk [06:27]
mircea_popescu once they got a sucker theyd rater not lose it [06:27]
BingoBoingo SLAC ends tend to be the same but the means are subtler than Ivys as always [06:28]
mircea_popescu a uni program that doesn't shed 50% is dubious on its face [06:28]
mircea_popescu you just can't get such a good measure of kids coupla years post puberty [06:28]
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asciilifeform so now you know one of the services they provide. [06:28]
Apocalyptic a uni program that doesn't shed 50% is dubious on its face << pretty much [06:28]
asciilifeform guaranteed max grade [06:28]
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asciilifeform but in order to provide this service, they must maintain the illusion of 'we only recruit True Genius!' [06:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, but it's max grade from the forum's investor grading thing. A+++ [06:29]
asciilifeform precisely this one [06:29]
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mircea_popescu yes but economy has the same age old problem : it's real. once i know that ivy league predicts non-competence im not hiring them anymore. [06:30]
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mircea_popescu signals be signals, all i need is to know what they mean. [06:30]
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asciilifeform the next stage of pipeline for the ivy kids (employment, either directly in .gov, or the many quasi-private arms of the ussa hydra) follows the same formula. [06:30]
asciilifeform i.e. hire the folks with the yale '4.0' [06:30]
asciilifeform it's a kind of smaller 'komsomol' [06:30]
mircea_popescu exactly how the chinese ended up ruled by manchuku, too. [06:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu knows history, cannot be surprised [06:31]
decimation mircea: except the job of the ivies is to prepare someone to coddle USG for a living [06:31]
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BingoBoingo See. I imagine a solution to this problem. Matriculation exam and a subfreshman class aspiring to not shovel shit the next year. [06:34]
bitstein ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege. [06:34]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: what problem. the 'patient' is 100% microzoa by weight at this point. [06:35]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I imagine gnome is one of those abandonware projects like gnash people flock to merely for their existence [06:35]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: 'he' needs - not antibiotic - but proper burial. [06:35]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: The mercy problem. They have 1 year to study before becoming the shit they shovel. [06:35]
asciilifeform [insert obligatory mit battery film] [06:35]
asciilifeform ;;mitbattery [06:36]
gribble Error: "mitbattery" is not a valid command. [06:36]
BingoBoingo ;;google mit battery [06:36]
gribble Batteries | MIT News Office: ; Liquid Metal Batteries - Group Sadoway: ; Saying goodbye to batteries - MIT: [06:36]
BingoBoingo ;;google mit battery fail [06:36]
gribble A123's Technology Just Wasn't Good Enough | MIT Technology ...: ; Technical Innovations Help Explain Why Tesla Is Succeeding and ...: ; What the Tesla Battery Fire Means for Electric Vehicles | MIT ...: (1 more message) [06:36]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334 [06:36]
assbot MIT genuises with lightbulb - YouTube [06:36]
BingoBoingo OMG conspiracy!!! [06:36]
bitstein ;;rate justusranvier 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. John Connor of Bitcoin. [06:37]
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decimation re gnome: I wonder why Redhat continues to favor gnome - it seems KDE is far more professional for a "desktop environment" [06:37]
asciilifeform related: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog/decline.htm [06:37]
assbot Why I am Not a Professor [06:37]
asciilifeform ^ recommended reading. british, but generally applicable. [06:37]
decimation ascii, as long as USG is able to keep the bezzle going - joining the bezzle wot is going to be profitable. Ivies are the traditional entrance to the bezzle wot [06:38]
asciilifeform decimation: not a secret. only throwing some light on the mechanics. [06:39]
decimation right, the question is merely guessing when the machine explodes, and how to hide [06:39]
bitstein ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 Great blog, presides over great #bitcoin-assets group. Very welcoming. [06:39]
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decimation examining the details is interesting though. Here's a USG employee who was actually "fired" - and he named names: http://www.spacenews.com/article/civil-space/40868nasa-heliophysics-director-fired [06:40]
assbot NASA Heliophysics Director Fired | SpaceNews.com [06:40]
decimation "?I believe that the problems in the Heliophysics Division are dominated by the continuing actions of Dr. Madhulika Guhathakurta,? Chenette wrote. ?By her actions she chooses not to work as a member of the Heliophysics Division team. More than any other person she has been an unusually divisive and polarizing presence in the heliophysics community.? [06:41]
asciilifeform at least they didn't plug him [06:41]
asciilifeform like this fellow [06:42]
asciilifeform http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Livermore-Engineer-s-Mysterious-Death-3240466.php [06:42]
assbot Livermore Engineer's Mysterious Death / Investigators in the brutal slaying of Lee Scott Hall -- who found a flaw in a billion-dollar project -- are exasperated by the lab's lack of cooperation - SFGate [06:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17266 @ 0.0008216 = 14.1857 BTC [-] [06:42]
bitstein ;;rate bitcoinpete 2 Great blog, brought me into the #bitcoin-assets WoT. [06:42]
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decimation where did Ms. Guhathakurta pop up in google? http://womensvoicesforchange.org/lives-of-the-stars-courtesy-of-whoopi-goldberg-madhlika-guhathakurta-ro-kinzler-and-a-cast-of-millions.htm [06:42]
assbot Lives of the Stars, Courtesy of Whoopi Goldberg, Madhlika Guhathakurta, Ro Kinzler and A Cast of Millions | Women's Voices For Change [06:42]
decimation In addition, NASA?s Guhathakurta pointed to a core philosophical theme, about the connections among the building blocks of the universe and their connection to human beings. ?People will have now seen it with their own eyes,? she said. ?And they will see that at a very deep level ? a molecular level, really ? we are all connected to each other.? [06:42]
decimation So, basically the guy was fired because he was put in charge of a Party member [06:42]
decimation and was confused when he thought his nominal job title meant anything to the way power is actually excercised [06:43]
BingoBoingo decimation: KDE isn't a desktop environment anymore though. It is nao a kitchen sink circle jerk. Eventually they'll make a kernel... Just you wait... [06:43]
decimation yeah KDE went downhill after around 3, when it was just a desktop environment [06:43]
BingoBoingo I like Xfce for no other reason than they basically... stopped... [06:44]
BingoBoingo Still, it is no CDE [06:44]
asciilifeform decimation: gotta understand why they threw this fellow under the bus to cover for the shaman [06:44]
asciilifeform nasa has problems [06:44]
decimation heliophysics can also have problems [06:45]
asciilifeform namely, it's quite close to the front of the line for the chopping block [06:45]
asciilifeform how to get public support? court shamans [06:45]
asciilifeform don't be surprised to see nasa-branded horoscopes [06:45]
decimation well, the current pseudoscience shamanhood appears to be the climate change wing of the party [06:46]
asciilifeform plenty of physics folks still getting bread ticket there. but they are taught - on what toes not to step. [06:46]
asciilifeform this one wasn't a quick learner. [06:46]
decimation as long as your obscure research "proves climate change", you will avoid "problems" [06:46]
asciilifeform easy target. but understand that u.s. academia is divided into pissant fiefdoms entirely like the climate chumpatron [06:47]
asciilifeform just more obscure [06:47]
asciilifeform e.g. the fusion folks [06:48]
decimation yeah moldbug talks about the same phenomenon in computer science [06:48]
asciilifeform as described, for example, here - http://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2014/03/05/anatomy-of-a-fusion-press-release [06:48]
assbot Anatomy of a Fusion press release | Locklin on science [06:48]
* asciilifeform must have spammed the moldbug-on-cs link a thousand times [06:48]
BingoBoingo OMG, these chicken livers were prolly my best purchase this year. [06:48]
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BingoBoingo 2lbs of them already fired for $3.50 [06:49]
asciilifeform re: nasa & collapse - the very same thing happened in ussr [06:50]
asciilifeform physicists selling 'biorhythm' charts in bazaars to feed their children, etc [06:50]
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asciilifeform public wants snake oil. academia - retools for snake production. [06:50]
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asciilifeform all the 'democracy' catabolic collapse processes get thrown into high gear when the paycheques stop coming. [06:51]
asciilifeform thought pandering to bureaucrats sucked? try the public. [06:51]
decimation the mind reels. the amusing thing is that most of the "red state" enemies of the USG elite all think democracy is the best thing since sliced bread [06:52]
asciilifeform 'наука и жизнь' ('science & life', the russian equivalent of the - pre-90s-decay - 'scientific american') circa '91-97 was running pieces on nostradamus. [06:52]
asciilifeform just to keep the heat on [06:52]
decimation well, "popular science etc" are pretty much there today [06:53]
asciilifeform just remember kidz, we're all connected to each other and the universe through quantum-intestinal resonance. [06:53]
asciilifeform laugh now - press release later. [06:54]
asciilifeform decimation: the 'red' folks will get their nasa museaums, with noah's flood, etc [06:54]
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decimation lol the scott locklin article. basically the NIF is a shrine to big engineering project meets pseudoscience [06:56]
asciilifeform decimation: visit any university lab in the u.s., anywhere. invite a postdoc for a drink, ask how much of what is done stands any chance whatsoever of 'working' - in the customary meaning of the word. [06:57]
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decimation well, all of this stems from a lack of accountability and discipline. why not propose a $2bn shrine to ignorance? people in my district need jobs you know [06:59]
asciilifeform anything resembling 'accountability' would see the entire orchestra demolishes, the earth where it stood - salted. [06:59]
decimation yeah and the elites know it, even if only in the hindbrain [07:00]
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decimation perhaps the fate of the US is to have a "russian 90's" and then see a putin-like figure arise. I kinda doubt it though, because of the intense allergy us folk have to anyone telling them what to do [07:01]
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decimation asciilifeform: I think you wrote about how the effects of the nuke bomb were seriously hyped back in the cold war days. Here's an interesting link: http://glasstone.blogspot.com/ [07:05]
assbot Declassified effects of nuclear weapons and other threats: minimizing weapons effects on civilians [07:05]
decimation it's a bit wordy, but the bottom line is that civil defense against nuclear weapons is extremely effective [07:05]
decimation if you get most of your population into extremely cheap bunkers quickly, very few will die [07:06]
decimation this is an inconvienent fact if you want to hype the bomb into a mega-weapon in order to manipulate the masses into supporting your "peace programs" [07:06]
decimation so - civil defense got the boot. [07:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.06539315 = 1.8964 BTC [-] {4} [07:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00082175 = 14.3395 BTC [+] {2} [07:13]
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Mats_cd03 uh and the trillions in infrastructure damage? [07:17]
decimation right, but the point is that a realistic nuclear attack isn't going to be much more damaging than conventional bombs if defenses are prepared [07:17]
nubbins` [01:04:30] <+bitstein> ;;rate napedia 8 Close friend from Austin, TX BTC meetup. Wicked smart. Lots of privilege. [07:19]
nubbins` ^ lel, but how many t-shirts? [07:19]
decimation "If you want peace, be ready for war. If you want to encourage aggressors, disarm." [07:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06698006 = 0.6698 BTC [+] [07:23]
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BingoBoingo ;;later tell decimation Is our last name Teller by any chance? [07:34]
gribble The operation succeeded. [07:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30550 @ 0.00082408 = 25.1756 BTC [+] {2} [07:52]
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BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/top-us-patent-judge-resigns-following-ethical-breach/ [07:55]
assbot Top US patent judge resigns following ethical breach | Ars Technica [07:55]
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BingoBoingo ;;later tell decimation something in the long run you'l have to grapple with here is the apparent aversion people have to eating strange. [08:00]
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BingoBoingo http://screamer.deadspin.com/there-are-no-giraffes-in-ghana-delta-1591759195/+Sean-Newell [08:01]
assbot There Are No Giraffes In Ghana, Delta [08:01]
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BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/report-seattle-paid-17500-to-boost-online-reputation-of-city-official/ [08:06]
assbot Report: Seattle paid $17,500 to boost online reputation of city official | Ars Technica [08:06]
mircea_popescu cheap. [08:14]
mircea_popescu the us paid ~500mn to boost online reputation of white house official. [08:15]
BingoBoingo lol [08:15]
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mircea_popescu !up RedStallion [08:16]
-assbot- You voiced RedStallion for 30 minutes. [08:16]
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BingoBoingo Malaki paid ~1200 soldiers to keep his boys in Baghdad from deserting. [08:16]
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mircea_popescu now that's cheap [08:17]
BingoBoingo Historically yeah. [08:17]
BingoBoingo http://www.bestgore.com/execution/photo-mass-execution-iraq-soldiers-isis/ [08:18]
assbot Photos of Mass Executions of Iraqi Soldiers by ISIS | Best Gore [08:18]
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mircea_popescu ouch [08:19]
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BingoBoingo It's why I'm leaning towards predicting partition. [08:20]
mircea_popescu i think iran will invade if that's on the books. [08:21]
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BingoBoingo Sure, they probably take the south. The Kurds keep the productive north. Isis keeps the bullshit parts. [08:22]
mircea_popescu yeah, right. [08:22]
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mircea_popescu the notion of any sort of kurdish state would require commitment to the level of 100k boots on the ground for a few years, and then ongoing support a la israel. [08:25]
mircea_popescu and the kurds aren't the jews, either. [08:25]
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BingoBoingo At the moment though Iraqi Kurds have money, they actually like the hardware the US left them, and Turkey prolly wants to trim its welfare rolls... [08:26]
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mircea_popescu it's a pipe dream [08:26]
mircea_popescu i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time. [08:27]
BingoBoingo Well, UN sort of Statehood is, but they can prolly keep this feudal de fact autonomy going a few decades. Also UN sort of statehood is on its way out. [08:27]
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BingoBoingo So how do we spec "i'll give you even odds on kurdish holocaust vs kurdish independence any time" for BitBet? [08:28]
mircea_popescu and since we're discussing the war in iraq, let's debunk some common myths. the us has spent close to 2 trillion on it so far, which balloons to 7 trillion if you count interest payments, as the us is flat broke (the affair will be paid for by 2055ish). [08:29]
mircea_popescu this includes ~ 100k ak guns missing, about half a trillion in disappeared funds, including billions paid to known outright washington graft [08:29]
BingoBoingo No dispute there. [08:29]
mircea_popescu the revenue from iraqi oil was 5 bn in 2013. [08:30]
BingoBoingo I though at least a full trillion disappeared into the hole and graft... [08:30]
mircea_popescu that's 0.1% of the total cost, roughly speaking. [08:30]
mircea_popescu NOT worth it. in fact, if the usg simply invested its 7trn budget into bitcointalk "investments" the us would be ahead today [08:30]
BingoBoingo Bush I really should have just blessed Bin Laded keeping occupied with Saddam. [08:30]
mircea_popescu o yeah, and of the ~50bn spent on reconstruction (1% of total, or 10x the benefits) pretty much nothing of any use was built. [08:31]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that'd have required people with something other than cotton between their ears living and breathing in washington [08:31]
mircea_popescu however, with fuckwits a la kerry, rice or clinton... [08:31]
BingoBoingo It's still satisfying to say 9/11 was HW's fault [08:33]
mircea_popescu idont see how it'd be. [08:34]
BingoBoingo He could have Kept Bin Laden busy through the 90's like Reagan did through the 1980's [08:35]
mircea_popescu http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/5384eff869bedd306fc96e9e-800-/ap53047226600.jpg << dude the white house has a skeletronizer somewhere. [08:35]
mircea_popescu look at that man. he went in there all plump and looking 35. a decade later he looks 60 [08:35]
BingoBoingo I though that was just 6 years of knowing he sucks aged him. [08:36]
mircea_popescu maybe. [08:36]
mircea_popescu i dunno what can do that to a man, outside of smoking rocks [08:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: You have to realize everything he does is the near opposite of what you enjoy and consider healthy [08:38]
mircea_popescu hm [08:38]
mircea_popescu no wonder they can't get talent. [08:38]
BingoBoingo Also... who are his daughters dating... That has to age him too. [08:38]
mircea_popescu looks like erzsebet bathory's ballet troupe. "send your girl over, we'll suck her blood and leave an empty husk within five years". [08:39]
BingoBoingo It happened to W. less so to Clinton because Interns. [08:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 634 @ 0.0008216 = 0.5209 BTC [-] [08:41]
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BingoBoingo Hard to say if it aged Reagan or if he had a lucid moment after year 2. Cater was afraid of rabbits. [08:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00082105 = 7.1431 BTC [-] [08:56]
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BingoBoingo fluffypony: Un pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1199460/responsive-documents.pdf [09:00]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [09:04]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 589.51, Best ask: 591.62, Bid-ask spread: 2.11000, Last trade: 592.1, 24 hour volume: 9550.98273248, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 610.0, 24 hour vwap: 598.225360045 [09:04]
BingoBoingo %book [09:04]
atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 [09:04]
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BingoBoingo https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mxDSiwqM2nw [09:06]
assbot AAA THE F-35 IS A LEMON PIERRE SPREY (RUNAWAY FIGHTER) FIFTH ESTATE EXTENDED INTERVW - YouTube [09:06]
BingoBoingo I'd almost venture to say based on Opportunity costs that the F-35 might have been as injurous to the US as Iraq [09:07]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2157505 = 0.863 BTC [+] {2} [09:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 57 @ 0.06699998 = 3.819 BTC [+] {5} [10:09]
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fluffypony BingoBoingo: it displays really weirdly here [10:30]
fluffypony it works, but the text is all fuzzy [10:30]
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fluffypony ;;later tell mircea_popescu Fiverr takes Bitcoin now, well worth making an account - there's so much stupid shit I've used Fiverr for it's well worth it [10:40]
gribble The operation succeeded. [10:40]
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fluffypony CloudFlare itself is off-line? lol. [11:31]
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fluffypony This page (https://www.cloudflare.com/waf) is currently offline. However, because the site uses CloudFlare's Always Online™ technology you can continue to surf a snapshot of the site. We will keep checking in the background and, as soon as the site comes back, you will automatically be served the live version. Always Online™ is powered by CloudFlare | Hide this Alert [11:32]
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-tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi all. I need to reroute some servers after that split otherwise we'll see significant lag across the network. [11:33]
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pankkake http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode7.0.0/ two new currencies, no bitcoin [11:45]
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fluffypony lame. [11:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25269 @ 0.00082274 = 20.7898 BTC [+] [17:15]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i guess. [17:16]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: '3DES among the best in the world' lawl. [17:17]
mircea_popescu but then what's that scrape when blackberry wouldn't give its keys to some foreign, i don't recall, russia was it ? [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78700 @ 0.00082477 = 64.9094 BTC [+] {3} [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9136 @ 0.00082294 = 7.5184 BTC [-] [17:18]
mircea_popescu jurov: but upon presenting them, namworld sid he can do better and old logo was actually okay << hey, my vote won! [17:18]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655464.0 [17:19]
assbot DataTank Mining: 1.2MW 3M Novec Immersion Cooled 2PH Mining Containers [17:19]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: New Coinbase marketing campaign: http://imgur.com/cG07rQU <<< ahgaha what stupid retarded shit is that. [17:20]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [17:20]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: if document is genuine, this is likely a 'marketing scheme' for the usg blacklist crap. << if it is it'll backfire, ppl get to learn first hand just how harmless btc actually is by telling these folk to stfu / ignoring them [17:21]
mircea_popescu "During years of engineering time, we have built a network of partners, resources and contacts in Asia, Europe and the USA." yet the best they could do was still havelock. [17:23]
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pankkake Our first larger scale immersion cooled cluster consisted of 6048 Xilinx®Spartan-6 FPGAs in 24 tanks and was built in early 2012 with the Bitcoin still below $5. [17:24]
pankkake how many coins would that be? [17:24]
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mircea_popescu "we of course can not offer any documentation to this claim, nor have we learned to gpg yet, because this is all very common of big ticker 2012 miners" [17:24]
pankkake also, why would they need to raise funds [17:24]
mircea_popescu "we also knew what chips bfl had sanded off in 2013 way back in 2011, which allowed us to beat them to the punch by two years but keep quiet about it" [17:25]
mircea_popescu "also bitcoin was under 5 in spite of us secretly doing 140% of network hash on our 6k bfl miners self-delivered early by about 17 months" [17:25]
mircea_popescu pankkake how many coins would that be? << the early (only) bfl delivered miners were commercial fpgas, so you know... a lot. [17:26]
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mircea_popescu i dun recall them actually delivering 5k of the things, they had a limited supply prolly bought off some suprluss deal. [17:27]
mircea_popescu "The company will publish financial statements and certified audits frequently to make calculation of operating expenses transparent." [17:28]
mircea_popescu idjits ffs. [17:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.0633 = 3.3549 BTC [+] [17:28]
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los_pantalones this video says "99% electicity saved - Extremely efficient cooling" [17:35]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.78602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,931. [17:35]
los_pantalones i'm no mathemagician, but that seems high [17:36]
mike_c ^ wtf? people think marshalls are going to dump the price? [17:36]
mike_c ;;ticker [17:36]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.38, Best ask: 599.5, Bid-ask spread: 3.12000, Last trade: 596.38, 24 hour volume: 5611.63210563, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.3, 24 hour vwap: 592.337568602 [17:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.06439287 = 1.2879 BTC [+] [17:36]
chetty Obama announces 275 US troops WILL be sent to Iraq to protect American embassy in Baghdad days after saying they would not return = suicide mission [17:37]
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los_pantalones mike_c i've noticed a lot of people arguing that everyone who buys in the auction is going to sell into the market [17:37]
mircea_popescu mike_c more or lesss stable it seems [17:37]
mircea_popescu los_pantalones you didn't see people arguing that [17:37]
mike_c that would be, retarded! [17:37]
mircea_popescu you saw this guy : http://trilema.com/2014/this-is-just-about-everyone-on-the-internet/ [17:37]
los_pantalones not here, of course [17:37]
assbot This is just about everyone on the Internet pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:37]
los_pantalones hahahahah [17:38]
mircea_popescu jurov kinda nonsensical. if he dumps the price he gets competition. [17:38]
jurov yes.. i got no explanation then. [17:38]
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mike_c <+mircea_popescu> mike_c more or lesss stable it seems << yeah, that surprises me. i would think it would be sliding towards no instead of staying stable. [17:39]
los_pantalones i thought the market should have rallied on the auction news, it wasn't necessarily clear how they would sell the coins [17:39]
mircea_popescu how about you know, derps paying voluntary stupid tax (again) [17:39]
pankkake can the exchanges even handle 20000 coins? that sounds risky for a quick profit [17:39]
jurov but still.. maybe it's the same derp who bought s.dice day after divs were paid [17:39]
los_pantalones and i think the process is not bad, chunky sizes to better financed entities [17:39]
mircea_popescu pankkake you don't have to use the exchanges. you can just undercut los_pantalones here :D [17:39]
los_pantalones mircea_popescu correct [17:39]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't worry too much if i were you. [17:39]
pankkake ;;ticker --market bitcoincentral --vol [17:40]
gribble 101.04901102 [17:40]
mircea_popescu it's not a sale anyway. if anything, it's good news for you. [17:40]
pankkake ;;ticker --market bitstamp --vol [17:40]
gribble 5602.81348519 [17:40]
mircea_popescu pankkake whoa shit, they're getting close to the 100 btc cutoff ?! [17:40]
pankkake it's daily volume [17:40]
mircea_popescu ah ah [17:40]
mircea_popescu i was about to say davout got 51 problems and a horse ain't one. [17:40]
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mike_c jurov: for the record, my retarded comment was about buying the coins to sell, not your theory :) but i agree with mp that I don't think the bitstamp price will have much to do with the auction price. [17:42]
mike_c or, if i'm putting words in his mouth, then that's what i think at least. [17:42]
mircea_popescu close enough. [17:42]
pankkake will the prices be public? [17:42]
los_pantalones you have to submit a price on friday, find out if you win monday night [17:42]
mircea_popescu how was your father's day btw ? [17:42]
los_pantalones pankkake unclear, not much disclosed about what happens when you win [17:43]
los_pantalones sorry, if* [17:43]
mike_c mine? it was great. left the kid at grandma's and went out with the wife. [17:43]
mircea_popescu hahaha score. [17:43]
mircea_popescu in unrelated news, my pyjamas have little octopuses on them, my table is an inch of glass, i prop my knee under it while sitting. 3rd fucking thims this morning i had a peripheral vision panic of "WHOA WTF ARE THOSE" [17:44]
mircea_popescu http://www.weirdspace.dk/LooneyTunes/Graphics/HeneryHawk.gif [17:46]
davout pankkake: "it's daily volume" <<< nothing that a couple 0-fee accounts can't fix anyway [17:46]
mircea_popescu o.O [17:46]
kakobrekla o cool [17:47]
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jurov mircea_popescu wears pyjamas? O.o [17:47]
mircea_popescu what do you wear [17:47]
jurov better go without (unless you fear snakes) [17:47]
pankkake not even a pajama suit [17:47]
mircea_popescu pankkake no, it's a suit alright. [17:48]
mircea_popescu well it doesn't have a vest, but anyway. got pockets and everything [17:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7937 @ 0.0000985 = 0.7818 BTC [-] {2} [17:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.06644663 = 0.5316 BTC [-] {2} [17:50]
mircea_popescu http://muscleheadgym.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/i-scared-myself-today/ << i wonder how this guy's post'd look like if a cop had picked him up for gta, and then kept him under key until such a time a translator could establish the woman's not angry at having caught a thief but relieved at having been broken into her car. [17:50]
assbot I scared myself today | The Musclehead Gym [17:50]
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jurov http://bitcoiner.sk/2014/06/09/bitcoin-tetovania-su-v-kurze-pozrite-sa-na-pravych-fanusikov-digitalnej-meny/#.U6BXf6bTbmE omgwtf [17:59]
assbot Bitcoin tetovania s v kurze. Pozrite sa na pravch fanikov digitlnej meny. [17:59]
mircea_popescu ? [17:59]
jurov sample: http://bitcoiner.sk/content/images/2014/Jun/12.jpg [18:01]
jurov she prolly forgot the text "insert bitcoins here" [18:02]
jurov but dunno if she got crypto capable cunt [18:02]
kakobrekla its inset buttcoins in the bck [18:02]
kakobrekla insert* [18:02]
kakobrekla back [18:03]
kakobrekla fuck cmon. [18:03]
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jurov asciilifeform: what about S.NSA developing btc wallet that can be implanted into dick/cunt with NFC capability? [18:04]
jurov ofc, in the butt, too (butt one will be then configured by user to ask more) [18:05]
mircea_popescu lolk [18:05]
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davout jurov: are you fucking crazy? [18:07]
davout who would use nfc for a bitcoin wallet?? [18:07]
pankkake the real issue with his plan is the block size limit [18:08]
chetty hmm never actually considered getting a tattoo ....before [18:08]
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mircea_popescu lmao [18:08]
mircea_popescu pankkake it has no cock size limit, you were lied to [18:08]
pankkake if it's one tx per entry [18:08]
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jurov okay, not nfc. it makes more sense using actual electrodes, so physical contact is needed (and environment must be wet) [18:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.crocofetish.com/pictures/bdsm/bound-gangbangs/dp-in-submissive-slut-gangbang/11.jpg << doublespend [18:10]
davout i can't wait for the triple-entry accounting illustration [18:10]
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mircea_popescu a'cuntin' ? [18:11]
pankkake somehow I feel the last links are NSFW [18:11]
mircea_popescu http://files.sharenator.com/They_said_I_could_be_anything_Infinite_Picdump_117-s598x462-311626-580.jpg << here you go. [18:11]
mircea_popescu pankkake since when are you employed ?! [18:11]
davout lol [18:12]
pankkake unfortunately… [18:12]
mircea_popescu french employment. where good pr0n is only a lick away [18:12]
mircea_popescu +c [18:12]
mircea_popescu or w/e [18:12]
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fluffypony http://www.coindesk.com/multi-sig-bitcoin-wallet-provider-bitgo-raises-12-million/ [18:13]
assbot Multi-Sig Bitcoin Wallet Provider BitGo Raises $12 Million [18:13]
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pankkake my last employer was NSFW friendly though [18:13]
davout every decent employer is nsfw-friendly [18:14]
davout nsfw can also help improve security policies at the office [18:14]
pankkake i.e. I was expected to send porn to my "boss" [18:14]
pankkake how so? [18:14]
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davout well, if each time you leave your desk without locking your session you find full-screen gay porn playing upon returning there you start paying attention to locking your session [18:15]
jurov davout, that depends :D [18:16]
davout lol, i guess it needs to be tailored to the target [18:16]
pankkake I am much more paranoid, gay porn is far from something I'd fear [18:17]
pankkake I always lock it + 5 min idle lock [18:17]
asciilifeform forgot to lock my console once at uni, in dorm. chums walked in, changed display background to a shot of winblows 'me' [18:17]
davout asciilifeform: it's much funnier to change the background to a full screen shot, and then hide the icons [18:18]
pankkake Windows Meuh [18:18]
asciilifeform davout: that's what it was [18:18]
asciilifeform jurov: fingerprint locks -> lose yer finger; cock wallet -> lose... [18:19]
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jurov if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes [18:19]
davout jurov: that would work amazingly well if coupled to a buttwallet [18:19]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [18:19]
asciilifeform rectumprint. [18:19]
asciilifeform sit on a stake scanner. [18:20]
asciilifeform no thx [18:20]
pankkake well, http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/28/tongue-piercing-disabled-paralysed-magentic-stud-wheelchairs-smartphone [18:20]
assbot Tongue piercing helps paralysed patients drive wheelchairs | Society | theguardian.com [18:20]
chetty so in Pennsylvania if you don{t log into a bank account for 6 months the state takes it [18:20]
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pankkake even in France it's 30 years! [18:22]
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mircea_popescu davout, that depends :D << lol [18:31]
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mircea_popescu if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything [18:33]
mircea_popescu !up jediballs [18:33]
-assbot- You voiced jediballs for 30 minutes. [18:33]
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chetty http://online.wsj.com/articles/explosion-rips-through-gas-pipeline-in-central-ukraine-1403013593 [18:35]
assbot Ukraine Gas Pipeline Explosion Won't Affect Supplies to Europe - WSJ [18:35]
kakobrekla lol wtf is this [18:35]
kakobrekla http://www.coindesk.com/delta-financial-offers-interest-bearing-bitcoin-accounts/ [18:35]
assbot Delta Financial Offers Interest-Bearing Bitcoin Accounts [18:35]
chetty if i scale down the craziness, maybe tongue implant would actually work.. to pay or gpg sign something, one has to lick the electrodes << im not fucking licking anything<< well your slaves can do it [18:35]
mircea_popescu kinda meh [18:36]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla people desperate for bitcoin capital [18:36]
mircea_popescu it will only get worse. [18:36]
kakobrekla ah i get it, the bitfinex model [18:37]
kakobrekla i thought pirate was out of jail at first [18:37]
mircea_popescu lol [18:38]
mircea_popescu on the short term, 2015-2016, it'll be AMAZING what sort of interest people will be able to earn if they don't actually want their bitcoin capital back [18:38]
mircea_popescu increasingly more respectable firms will be offering btc denominated savings accounts with a fiat clause as the cheapest most accessible way to get in the game [18:39]
mircea_popescu (stuff like "deposit your bitcoin with for 50% per annum!!1" small print "repayable in either bitcoin or fiat at our option") [18:40]
mircea_popescu all the "everyone made ROI hand over fist with a 60% btc loss" crowd will be well served. [18:40]
jurov ftfy: "repayable at our option" [18:40]
mircea_popescu jurov that'll slowly go away. [18:40]
mircea_popescu it's cheaper to pay a few % and pretend like you've paid than to not pay at all. [18:41]
mircea_popescu the only reason this isn't the rule now is the relative small size of the deals, which makes cluelessness seaworthy [18:41]
jurov afaik it was the case with fiat before central banking [18:41]
mircea_popescu but even on a market of garr and nasty fucktards, it's slowly emerging [18:41]
mircea_popescu something like that yes. [18:41]
mircea_popescu early bank paper (banknotes) stoood to gold in a very similar relation. "deposit your gold, we'll pay 5976597985%. in gold. or maybe paper" [18:42]
mircea_popescu "it's just as good" [18:42]
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fluffypony lol - 4chan campaign ends up IRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exc6e3TUBWk [18:44]
assbot #EndFathersDay - a Twitter Campaign to End Patriarchy & Oppression - #SingleMothersDay - YouTube [18:44]
pankkake paying dividends seems the way to keep investors happy [18:45]
pankkake until, of course, well [18:45]
pankkake "they pay dividends" is the usual retort to any criticism [18:45]
mircea_popescu yeah, it's been through the years the most popular scam. "deposit lump sum, we'll pay you a few %s of it a few times. annuity ftw!" [18:46]
mircea_popescu but re the paper conundrum, take this ancient quote : trilema.com/digging-through-archives-yields-gold [18:46]
chetty http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/feds-put-signs-telling-cats-stay-away/#axzz34uDAcwHz [18:47]
assbot Feds put up signs telling cats to stay away (Psst! Cat's can't read.) | The Libertarian Republic [18:47]
mircea_popescu Government sponsored enterprises enter the business, in due course bad behavior is made mandatory, and the evil financial network is bigger than the honest financial network, with the result that even though everyone knows what is happening, people continue to use the paper issued by the evil financial network, because of network effects - the big, main issuers, are the issuers you use if you want to do business. [18:48]
mircea_popescu Then knowledgeable people complain that the evil financial network is heading for disaster, that the government sponsored enterprises are about to cause a “collapse of the total financial system”, as Wallison and Alan Greenspan complained in 2005, the government debates shrinking the evil government sponsored enterprises, as with “S. 190 [109th]: Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005″ but they find easy money too [18:48]
mircea_popescu seductive, and S. 190 goes down in flames before a horde of political activists chanting that easy money is sound, and opposing it is racist, nazi, ignorant, and generally hateful, the recent S. 190 debate on limiting portfolios (bond issue supporting dud mortgages) by government sponsored enterprises being a perfect reprise of the debates on limiting the issue of new assignats in the 1790s. [18:48]
mircea_popescu The big and easy government attacks on money target a single central money issuer, as with the first of the modern political attacks, the French Assignat of 1792, but in the late nineteenth century political attacks on financial networks began, as for example the Federal reserve act of 1913, the goal always being to wind up the network into a single too big to fail entity, and they have been getting progressively bigger, more serious, and m [18:48]
mircea_popescu ore disastrous, as with the most recent one. Each attack is hugely successful, and after the cataclysm that the attack causes the attackers are hailed as saviors of the poor, the oppressed, and the nation generally, and the blame for the the bad consequences is dumped elsewhere, usually on Jews, greedy bankers, speculators, etc, because such attacks ar [18:48]
mircea_popescu guy knew EXACTLY what was going to be going on, back in... 2009. [18:48]
mircea_popescu this is also why stomping out us influence in bitcoin is quite so critical for its survival at this juncture. [18:49]
mircea_popescu they seem to not wish to submit, so they will have to be killed, pretty much. [18:49]
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jurov !up chax [18:55]
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mircea_popescu lol the voiceless! [18:56]
fluffypony http://www.coindesk.com/search-ideal-bitcoin-jurisdiction/ [18:56]
assbot In Search of the Ideal Bitcoin Jurisdiction [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.94523860 BTC to 9`095 shares, 21388 satoshi per share [19:00]
los_pantalones i always thought UAE would be the best jurisdiction for btc [19:00]
los_pantalones they already trade with everyone in the world [19:00]
los_pantalones and get stuck with USD [19:00]
los_pantalones but "jurisdiction" seems like a pointless word [19:02]
los_pantalones for something that operates outside borders [19:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00082518 = 5.1161 BTC [+] [19:03]
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jurov los_pantalones what's better word for poor schmucks like me that need to get the fiat out somehow? [19:06]
los_pantalones out of the country ? [19:06]
los_pantalones where you reside ? [19:07]
jurov slovankia/eu. but the VAT needs not be such a big problem as the paint it [19:07]
jurov *they [19:07]
jurov it isn't so much yet it would require offshore solution [19:08]
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chetty I dont see tax so much the issue as the bank squeeze [19:20]
los_pantalones chetty agreed [19:20]
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penguirker New blog post: http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/06/17/why-its-over-for-litecoin/ [19:21]
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davout did anyone buy the emblematic iranian shoes? [19:22]
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mircea_popescu nope [19:38]
mircea_popescu which were those ? [19:38]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete you know, your litecoin article'd benefit from a lot more reductio ad absurdum and other directly-obvious proofs to displace most of the appeals to authority. [19:40]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:40]
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mircea_popescu if you say "<> This author, like many a CoinDesker, is of the mistaken belief that buying a whole shitty thing just because you can afford it is better than buying a part of something far superior. Today, you can buy a million satoshis for $6 or you can buy most of the Dogecoin for sale on the market. Incredibly, some people will actually go for the latter. This is nons [19:41]
mircea_popescu ense. “Affordability” isn’t what you think it is." [19:41]
mircea_popescu you're not helping your reader all that much. [19:41]
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mircea_popescu if you say "By this logic, it is better to buy half of a pair of boots than a whole car" you are. [19:42]
mircea_popescu Right off the bat, we see that Litecoin is pitched at the “average user.” This, of course, is a huge red flag that Litecoin is doomed to failure. Anything aimed at the lowest common denominator must necessarily be shit. <<< like what, like air ? [19:43]
mircea_popescu take pussy for instance. pussy is constructed with the average user in mind. it's not shit, that's a different hole. [19:43]
mircea_popescu too strong statements put you in the unenviable position that a ready counterexample can be constructed that speaks to what you say, and then your entire argument looks weak, where it needn't. [19:43]
davout mircea_popescu: http://persianshoes.com/product/m126/ [19:45]
assbot M126 | Persian Shoes [19:45]
davout their shoes look rad [19:45]
davout also they were featured i some tv bitcoin documentary, what decided me to get some was how the iranian shoe maker made fun of the western journalists shoes [19:46]
davout handmade shoes for 150 bucks, plus i get to transact with iran [19:47]
mircea_popescu i dont see what's so special about them but anyway [19:47]
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davout i desire them, that's what's special [19:48]
mircea_popescu aite then. dealing with iran isn't such a bad thing anyway [19:48]
mircea_popescu i recall back in 2012 when i was beating the bushes for sane iranian peoples lol [19:48]
jurov terrorist shoes!!1 [19:51]
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jurov http://i.imgur.com/IZkEbgI.jpg [19:53]
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jurov sfw [19:53]
mircea_popescu !up edlund10 [19:59]
-assbot- You voiced edlund10 for 30 minutes. [19:59]
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edlund10 thanks [19:59]
edlund10 http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/ [19:59]
assbot BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 7 hours | weight: 78`609 (100`000 to 1) [19:59]
edlund10 this bet should be already resolved as yes :) [20:00]
mircea_popescu leave a comment there then [20:00]
edlund10 i left it, but wasn't sure if it's enough [20:00]
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mircea_popescu !up Dimsler [20:04]
-assbot- You voiced Dimsler for 30 minutes. [20:04]
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Dimsler https://i.imgur.com/cG07rQU.jpg [20:04]
Dimsler lol [20:04]
Dimsler btc [20:04]
Dimsler i can't wait until the first kidnapping for btc occurs [20:04]
mircea_popescu i can't wait until people start reading the logs before they think they're being all newsworthy and shit [20:05]
mircea_popescu !down Dimsler [20:05]
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jurov Dimsler,last i heard BingoBoingo arranges one with FARC [20:05]
adrrr bitbet odds are so ugly [20:07]
mircea_popescu how so [20:08]
kakobrekla adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind [20:10]
fluffypony ;;later tell moiety I think I found the first cat that can take on a manul: http://i.imgur.com/PZNxrN4.jpg [20:10]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:10]
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fluffypony kakobrekla: I thought it was the same design committee that did the UI design for apex? [20:10]
fluffypony s/apex/mpex [20:10]
adrrr kakobrekla: I didn't talk about the design, but the number [20:11]
kakobrekla fluffypony there is some intersection for sure. [20:12]
kakobrekla adrrr you want the number bigger or smaller? [20:12]
kakobrekla i can fix it in the css. [20:12]
jurov .odds: {font-family: comic-sans;} [20:13]
adrrr no not css or anything. By the way nice website ! I just think the odds are to bad to play. It's just what I think :D [20:13]
kakobrekla well [20:13]
kakobrekla is bigger one bigger than smaller one or no [20:14]
jurov adrr for example this for example had very good odds: http://bitbet.us/bet/901/fifa-world-cup-2014-goal-in-under-10/ [20:14]
assbot BitBet - FIFA World Cup 2014: goal in under 10 mins :: 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No | closing in 3 weeks 6 hours | weight: 78`570 (100`000 to 1) [20:15]
jurov so what is the problem? [20:15]
kakobrekla i guess it depends if its == or ===. [20:15]
pankkake just do == || === to be sure [20:15]
pankkake unless you want == && === [20:15]
benkay adrrr the design approval committee was colorblind // ah i always knew it mircea_popescu is a DAC [20:16]
kakobrekla i usually use the shorthand ==(=) [20:16]
mircea_popescu lol [20:16]
jurov kakobrekla usually uses 100-second minutes [20:16]
kakobrekla did you know a day is two nights long [20:17]
benkay or .1...but it doesn't matter, you know? [20:17]
adrrr anyway this is a good website [20:17]
benkay make sure your odds are ======== reality before betting [20:17]
adrrr yeah that's it [20:17]
pankkake adrrr: yes. I use it more for fun than profit. or at least that's what I tell myself :D [20:17]
benkay and your fees are ======= 0 [20:17]
pankkake 0 rounded up [20:18]
benkay yeah hey i mean they're really small numbers [20:18]
adrrr sport bet website in bitcoins have bigger number than sport bet normal website. I think this is a good thing for bitcoin cause a lot of gamblers will realize that [20:19]
benkay bigger numbers are definitely best numbers [20:20]
pankkake no, not bigger. just more numbers [20:20]
pankkake adrrr: you might like http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/bitbet-affiliate-ad/ [20:20]
assbot BitBet Affiliate Ad - Btc Alpha [20:20]
adrrr lol I don't understand you, can we say better odds? [20:20]
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kakobrekla would a smaller or bigger font be better ? [20:22]
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pankkake !up adrrr [20:22]
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adrrr that's not a problem of font [20:22]
adrrr you're kidding me [20:23]
kakobrekla but it would make the number smaller or bigger. :( [20:23]
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jurov adrrr please say cmplete informatin or example - where do you get better odds? [20:23]
jurov if you don't qualify you easily become butt of jokes [20:23]
[]bot Bet placed: 1.25 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ Odds: 22(Y):78(N) by coin, 22(Y):78(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.13602464 BTC. Current weight: 93,558. [20:23]
adrrr For example on this bet : 0.29 B (67%) on Yes, 0.14 B (33%) on No [20:25]
adrrr When I see that I just don't wanna bet [20:25]
davout adrrr: that's because it's pari mutuel [20:25]
adrrr I'm gonna try to find an example with goods odds [20:25]
davout the way people bet is the way odds are defined [20:25]
adrrr oh so I'm a noob lol I didn't saw that [20:26]
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adrrr It's a good idea ! [20:26]
adrrr lol [20:26]
mircea_popescu lolk [20:27]
kakobrekla so we are not changing the css? [20:27]
adrrr ahaha [20:27]
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mircea_popescu better change it just to be sure (tm) [20:28]
adrrr everything is fine kakobrekla [20:28]
kakobrekla kk! [20:28]
adrrr I'll tell you what to do next ;) [20:28]
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fluffypony kakobrekla: needs more jQuery [20:30]
fluffypony and webfonts [20:30]
adrrr and responsive design ! [20:31]
fluffypony yes [20:31]
fluffypony and PDF reports [20:31]
pankkake responsive is actually a good thing [20:31]
pankkake I like to have a narrow browser window and some websites really suck at it [20:31]
pankkake I hope you do your math with jquery http://r3dux.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/NotEnoughjQuery.jpg [20:31]
benkay you mean the dollar? [20:32]
benkay i do all of my ui with the htmldollar [20:33]
adrrr the picture is a joke [20:33]
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fluffypony adrrr: it's serious business [20:35]
adrrr no it was just to explain to benkay that this is a joke [20:35]
adrrr (the picture) [20:35]
Mats_cd03 whoevers behind Unicode 7.0 is challenged [20:39]
Mats_cd03 new emoji, read like " cloud with tornado. snow capped mountain. white sun behind cloud." [20:39]
Mats_cd03 http://emojipedia.org/new-emoji/ [20:40]
jurov Mats_cd03 we aren't there yet. apparently there's still "diversity gap": http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2459629,00.asp [20:41]
assbot Vulcan Salute, Middle Finger Among 250 New Emojis | News & Opinion | PCMag.com [20:41]
jurov "the lineup still doesn't include any African-American characters" [20:41]
Mats_cd03 lol what [20:42]
fluffypony ;;ud figjam [20:46]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=figjam | Also a song, "FIGJAM (Fuck I'm Good Just Ask Me)" by Butterfingers, an Australian band. Bob: "Ahhh, finished tiling that roof at last..." Alan: "Yeah, FIGJAM!". [20:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00082518 = 18.8141 BTC [+] [20:50]
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kakobrekla !up adrrr [20:53]
kakobrekla ah he gone. [20:54]
kakobrekla i was just about to say something. [20:54]
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kakobrekla o wait [20:54]
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kakobrekla !up adrrr [20:56]
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kakobrekla get yourself in the wont if you want to talk [20:56]
kakobrekla or wot [20:56]
adrrr yep i'm in [20:56]
adrrr i was just not logged in [20:56]
kakobrekla ;;gettrust assbot adrrr [20:57]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask adrrr!~adrrr@APuteaux-652-1-213-139.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adrrr: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adrrr | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adrrr | Rated since: Thu May 22 05:23:03 2014 [20:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35752 @ 0.0008247 = 29.4847 BTC [-] {2} [20:57]
kakobrekla a ok [20:57]
FabianB $vwap s.mpoe [20:58]
empyex FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00082071 high: 0.0008265 low: 0.00081569 volume: 1300456 btc: 1067.29102587 7 day: average: 0.00082605 high: 0.00086895 low: 0.00081496 volume: 6563631 btc: 5421.87815351 30 day: average: 0.00087011 high: 0.00094991 low: 0.00079351 volume: 26687590 btc: 23221.15595391 [20:58]
FabianB $vwap s.bbet [20:58]
empyex FabianB: S.BBET 1 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 7 day: average: 0.0005 high: 0.0005 low: 0.0005 volume: 1719 btc: 0.8595 30 day: average: 0.00048526 high: 0.000525 low: 0.00047 volume: 8347 btc: 4.050485 [20:58]
kakobrekla 4 btc, almost record volume [20:59]
jurov $vwap f.mpif [21:01]
empyex jurov: F.MPIF 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00021705 high: 0.00021726 low: 0.00021536 volume: 95749 btc: 20.78211468 [21:01]
jurov :( [21:01]
jurov okay, if 30day volume will be NaN then it propagates into NAV calculation and all hell will break loose [21:03]
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jurov *30day price, i mean [21:03]
FabianB curious about the next bbet statement [21:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53950 @ 0.00081952 = 44.2131 BTC [-] {2} [21:06]
FabianB all worldcup bets should be resolved this period [21:08]
mike_c vwap30 if vwap30 else last_sale [21:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.0699 = 0.699 BTC [+] [21:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 35 @ 0.02 = 0.7 BTC [+] {2} [21:14]
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FabianB $traded [21:17]
empyex FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.BBET S.MPOE X.EUR [21:17]
adrrr mpex.co need a good redesign ^^ [21:25]
kakobrekla iirc black version existed? [21:26]
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FabianB still does [21:27]
FabianB http://mpex.co/?r=1 [21:27]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [21:27]
pankkake uglier than I remember [21:27]
kakobrekla dunno why but the thing reminds me of http://gli.tc/h/2112/ [21:29]
assbot GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++ [21:29]
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pankkake well the white version looks much worse without my base firefox styles: https://i.imgur.com/uCtNgFa.png (except for graph integration) [21:30]
kakobrekla lots of fun css files in the dropdown [21:30]
mike_c ouch. black version needs to grey the background of the input box. much contrast. [21:30]
kakobrekla something like dat should be made for mpex [21:30]
kakobrekla for anyone that complains. [21:31]
kakobrekla example http://gli.tc/h/2112/index.php?css=8linkli_mrgnhgbyflwrs.css [21:32]
assbot GLI.TC/H 2112: DEC 6-9:CHICAGO ++ [21:32]
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jurov http://live.coinbr.com/images/mpex-sans-fs8.png totally rocks [21:41]
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fluffypony yeah agreed jurov [21:42]
fluffypony that should be the default [21:42]
FabianB [√] empyex commands documented ( http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots ) [21:43]
assbot irc_bots [bitcoin assets wiki] [21:43]
jurov body { background: pink; font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; } [21:43]
pankkake $proxies [21:45]
empyex pankkake: http://mpex.coinbr.com/ http://mpex.co/ [21:45]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [21:45]
pankkake $mpexlag [21:45]
empyex pankkake: 145 milliseconds [21:45]
pankkake $unconfirmed [21:45]
empyex pankkake: 1794 [21:45]
pankkake $avg [21:46]
empyex pankkake: 597.67 [21:46]
FabianB jurov: mpex.coinbr.com down? [21:50]
jurov looks so [21:50]
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jurov lol spot instances for $10/hr? someone gonna cry [21:53]
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pankkake ;;buy 1 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/ [21:55]
gribble Error: 'dinos' is not a valid price input. [21:55]
assbot ThinkGeek :: Firefly Inevitable Betrayal Dinosaurs with Sound [21:55]
FabianB jurov: for coinbr? [21:55]
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pankkake ;;view 20769 [21:55]
gribble #20769 Tue Jun 17 14:55:19 2014 pankkake BUY 1.0 Firefly dinos @ 50 USD (Get it shipped to you, reship it to France https://www.thinkgeek.com/product/156d/) [21:55]
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jurov no,for the proxy... that's why it is down [21:56]
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FabianB jurov: should i remove it from the list of proxies for now? [21:57]
jurov no, i'll relauch it elsewhere in a moment [21:57]
FabianB k [21:58]
BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/06/17/turkish_media_ban_media_in_turkey_stopped_from_covering_isis_abductions.html [22:00]
assbot Turkish media ban: Media in Turkey stopped from covering ISIS abductions. [22:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00082518 = 13.9455 BTC [+] [22:03]
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thestringpuller $book [22:05]
thestringpuller oops [22:05]
thestringpuller $depth MPOE [22:05]
empyex thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SFsBrGeQ [22:05]
thestringpuller grr [22:05]
thestringpuller $ticker MPOE [22:05]
thestringpuller $help [22:05]
empyex thestringpuller: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth ' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post ' '$proxies' '$traded' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap ' [22:05]
thestringpuller $moo [22:06]
empyex thestringpuller: It's starting to sound like Wal-Mart in here. [22:06]
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mod6 did that one just replace pympex? [22:07]
mod6 err mpexbot? [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00082554 = 21.464 BTC [+] {2} [22:10]
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jurov mod6 no, just supplements it [22:16]
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FabianB mod6: mpexbot yes [22:18]
mod6 ahh. [22:18]
FabianB thestringpuller: the mpsic is S.MPOE [22:19]
FabianB $depth s.mpoe [22:19]
empyex FabianB: [S.MPOE] Bids: 12750 @ 0.00082518 23135 @ 0.00082292 12291 @ 0.00082269 27100 @ 0.00081885 [22:19]
empyex FabianB: [S.MPOE] Asks: 3185 @ 0.00082558 14052 @ 0.00082650 40100 @ 0.00082715 31438 @ 0.00082725 [22:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00082356 = 34.9189 BTC [-] {3} [22:20]
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FabianB hmm.. thinking if i should let empyex tell thestringpuller to get the mpsics right instead of letting it default to raw depth [22:24]
pankkake it should kick you everytime you make an error [22:24]
FabianB lol [22:26]
FabianB i guess that would be more assbot's style [22:26]
jurov it should do bait [22:26]
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[]bot Bet created: "Petamine at over .08 per share before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/946/ [22:40]
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[]bot Bet created: "World Cup 2014: At least one red card issued during the final" http://bitbet.us/bet/947/ [22:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29977 @ 0.0008245 = 24.716 BTC [+] {2} [22:52]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [22:52]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 596.3, Best ask: 597.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.60000, Last trade: 595.85, 24 hour volume: 4787.75305818, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 592.934258693 [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14052 @ 0.0008265 = 11.614 BTC [+] [22:53]
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BingoBoingo %book [22:55]
atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 [22:55]
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[]bot Bet created: "World Cup 2014: Brazil to win" http://bitbet.us/bet/948/ [23:03]
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bitcoinpete ;;later tell mircea_popescu thanks for the tips! i made a few amendments at those points. [23:17]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:17]
BingoBoingo http://valleywag.gawker.com/gym-bags-full-of-cash-is-a-great-metaphor-for-celebrity-1591996703/+laceydonohue [23:18]
assbot Gym Bags Full of Cash Is a Great Metaphor for Celebrity Tech Investing [23:18]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [23:25]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 604.39, Best ask: 605.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.06000, Last trade: 604.37, 24 hour volume: 5671.90885716, 24 hour low: 580.0, 24 hour high: 608.0, 24 hour vwap: 594.237388536 [23:25]
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FabianB $depth f.mpif [23:30]
empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021662 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 10000 @ 0.00021561 [23:30]
empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000 [23:30]
FabianB where did the big ask wall go? [23:30]
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benkay why is the price going down? [23:52]
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fluffypony supply/deman [23:53]
fluffypony *demand [23:53]
fluffypony :-P [23:53]
BingoBoingo benkay: So USG sells for less [23:53]
FabianB down? [23:54]
FabianB ;;ticker --last [23:54]
gribble 606.0 [23:54]
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