Forum logs for 17 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [03:53]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013 [03:53]
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mircea_popescu http://www.businessinsider.com/hackers-use-a-refridgerator-to-attack-businesses-2014-1 [04:01]
ozbot Hackers Use A Refrigerator To Attack Businesses - Business Insider [04:01]
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pankkake I wonder what will happen with hacked self driving cars [04:03]
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KRS1 HAH love it. My whole thought process on "The Internet of Things" is really simple..does a refridgerator or a nuclear reactor really need a connection to the public network? [04:03]
mircea_popescu need. people do things just because things can be done these days. [04:03]
pankkake my coffee machine needs one though [04:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 261 @ 0.00042522 = 0.111 BTC [+] {2} [04:03]
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KRS1 idiotic..i always thought we were smarter than that..sadly I'm consistently let down in that regard. [04:04]
KRS1 the safest computer is one that you wrote the software for and is disconnected from any network imo [04:06]
mircea_popescu well definitely the safest fridge is one that... you know, just fridges. [04:06]
KRS1 haha fridges [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24102 @ 0.0008443 = 20.3493 BTC [-] {2} [04:07]
KRS1 I sometimes like to refer to the term "feature creep"..can't tell you how many times good devices or software were turned into shat by trying to make it better. [04:07]
KRS1 (how many times I've seen) [04:08]
mircea_popescu anyway, they've got cameras everywhere, now hooking up the fridge and the thermostat, i'm looking forward to the netware hitachi wands [04:09]
diametric KRS1: did you also write the compiler too? [04:10]
diametric KRS1: because if you didn't its still not safe. [04:10]
diametric also I'm assuming you own a semiconductor fab too. [04:10]
mircea_popescu you know, the self-perpetuating compiler thing still hasn't been shown in the wild [04:12]
mircea_popescu 30 years later [04:12]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo inasmuch as the brain itself can't feel pain, sectioning of the spinal chord is pretty much it. hence the guillotine and such. probably the best solution there is, but derps don't like it because it's bloody [04:13]
diametric W32/Induc-A was spread through a Delphi compiler [04:13]
diametric granted it was delphi... [04:14]
diametric so maybe that doesn't count. [04:14]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, there comes in my suggestion for a concussive implement like a captive bolt device followed by exsanguination. I don't think it is just for the state to do these things unless it is bloody. [04:16]
mircea_popescu diametric i meant ken thompson's stuff. [04:16]
mircea_popescu http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html [04:17]
ozbot ACM Classic: Reflections on Trusting Trust [04:17]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo it's hw they kill cows, at least afaik. the concussion bold thing [04:17]
diametric yeah [04:17]
mircea_popescu whereas the induc thing was just able to infect at compile time [04:18]
mircea_popescu mebbe i didn't pay enough attention, but it seems diff classes of things [04:18]
diametric well, perhaps the compiler diddling does not exist in the wild, but I think we have sufficient evidence that chip fab diddling does. [04:19]
diametric speaking of.. I need to pop open some dells for asciilifeform [04:19]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well I know the cows don't seem to complain. Since society seems cool to serving long pig, it would probably be possible to use the penetrating variants of the devices which have been banned from the beef industry since the UK got their proteins twisted. [04:20]
diametric prions are scary, scary shit. [04:20]
diametric Its a goddamn protein equivalent of Kurt Vonnegut's Ice-nine. [04:21]
BingoBoingo diametric: They might be scary, but I'll be damned if they don't obey the rules of good functional programming. [04:21]
diametric hah [04:22]
mircea_popescu they'd be a lot scarier if they hadn't been around for practically ever with absolutely no ill effect. [04:22]
mircea_popescu in point of fact, the vast majority of complexity resources in living organisms are dedicated to immunity. which is why the damned things work "in most cases" [04:22]
mircea_popescu just you know... don't feed cow cow. [04:23]
VanCleef did you find true love yet mircea? [04:23]
mircea_popescu i mean... you didn't even know they existed before the whole kuru incident. [04:23]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: I though this had already happened. Just because you want to impose some disney bullshit on Mircea. [04:24]
Apocalyptic VanCleef, didn't you see he fell in love with his beard [04:24]
mircea_popescu i was going to say something with urmom in it but nothing good came to mind. [04:24]
mircea_popescu please byourmom. [04:25]
BingoBoingo Honestly if I had cancer nao the fashionable monoclonal antibodies would scare me more than classic chemo drugs. [04:25]
VanCleef i'm still hoping he finds true love so he becomes more positive in life [04:25]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: He did find true love. Just with a lot of women. [04:26]
mircea_popescu only black people get hiv, so that's a no go VanCleef. [04:26]
VanCleef hiv is a good way to lose weight [04:28]
BingoBoingo VanCleef: Diabetic coma is cheaper [04:28]
BingoBoingo As is tuberculosis [04:28]
BingoBoingo Or tapeworms [04:29]
mircea_popescu i wonder what chemically pure hiv would cost per gram. [04:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00084644 = 4.9094 BTC [+] {2} [04:31]
BingoBoingo I imagine next to nothing mircea_popescu, It only is active in an extrordinarily narrow range of environmental conditions. If you had a dumptruck full on nothing but HIV you'd have a rather useless mass of poorly differentiated protein and little more. That's why the whole folding deal matters even if computers suck at the folding. [04:31]
BingoBoingo You gotta add water [04:31]
mircea_popescu i imagine it's actually pretty stable if dry [04:31]
mircea_popescu anyway, not what it's worth, but what it'd cost. as in, to make. [04:32]
BingoBoingo Maybe stable, but probably too far gone to be pathenogenic. [04:32]
BingoBoingo Well, how many mice and rhesus monkeys do you have? [04:32]
BingoBoingo If you already have a bunch the cost would probably be comparable to any other monoclonal drug [04:33]
mircea_popescu afaik the costs to purify arbitrary proteins vary quite widely [04:34]
BingoBoingo With a Virus we aren't talking generally in terms of proteins though. Generally the discussion is providing combinations of proteins in a viable form. Pricing chemically pure puree of microbiota is something that I dunno has been done. [04:35]
BingoBoingo Oh, and the largest vegas bet I could find for a single player's bet was roughly 700,000 dollars. [04:36]
mircea_popescu well in an extremist view, a retrovirus is really a long protein [04:36]
mircea_popescu that's not so much ?! [04:36]
BingoBoingo That was on a craps table. [04:36]
BingoBoingo For event betting finding the largest pool ever has been more opaque [04:37]
mircea_popescu hm [04:37]
BingoBoingo Bookies gotta make their vig [04:37]
mircea_popescu old world "transparency" huh. [04:37]
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BingoBoingo Yeah. If they pay the odds were fair. If they can't, who could have imagined/scam [04:38]
BingoBoingo As far as I know though from my little bit of having sat in classrooms even the simplest retroviruses tend to have more than a single protein involved, though the definition of single protein can be flexible enough to make possibly an entire buffalo just a carefully arranged protein [04:39]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=286634.msg4535146#msg4535146 [04:40]
BingoBoingo If we want to talk about biology the same way BTC developers talk about code [04:40]
mircea_popescu o look at that. [04:40]
ozbot [BTC-TC] CIPHERMINE.B1 - a virtual corporate bond with a 22% fixed-fiat APR [04:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22056 @ 0.00084714 = 18.6845 BTC [+] {2} [04:40]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo perhaps not the buffalo, as it's hidrated. basically a sack of proteins in solution. [04:40]
mircea_popescu a virus however, is not normally hidrated [04:40]
BingoBoingo Oh, most virii only are viable if they have been consistently hydrated. It's why some kids in the classroom don't get the illness of the season. [04:41]
BingoBoingo Those kids just were lucky enough to not encounter active virii [04:42]
Apocalyptic I've heard Kate is ill [04:42]
BingoBoingo It's like how not every trainer at Seaworld has yet endured the revenge of Tilikum. Some of them actually took precautions. [04:43]
BingoBoingo If I get an awesome boat though, I am definitely naming it Tilikum's revenge. [04:43]
BingoBoingo Because fuck those hippies. [04:44]
pankkake what's tilikum? a pokemon? [04:45]
BingoBoingo pankkake: Only the world's most badass IRL pokemon. It's Shamu and eats people. Usually genitals first. [04:46]
pankkake "Dukes had visited SeaWorld the previous day, stayed after the park closed, and evaded security to enter the orca tank." lol how can you be so stupid [04:47]
BingoBoingo Sometimes "killer" isn't just a euphamism peopl ascribe to their Chihuahua rats [04:48]
pankkake SeaWorld obtains sperm from Tilikum by having a person "get into the pool and masturbate him with a cow's vagina filled with hot water [04:49]
pankkake yummy [04:49]
BingoBoingo Well that's basically how the entertainment industry works isn't it? [04:50]
pankkake "They are also the same packaging facility we have been using for our second iteration 65nm chips and it has worked out very well" [04:55]
BingoBoingo Having gotten drunk watching Whale Wars last weekend I have to say my favorite ocean going ship now is the Nissin Maru. As delicious as land going pigs are I can only here imagine how delicious their larger ocean going brethren are. [04:55]
BingoBoingo Bitcoin's biggest threat isn't retards peddling Doges and other memes. It is cetacians remember the 60's and skipping spears to thermonuclear weapons. [04:57]
KRS1 I imagine after Japan's nuclear problem, we will have some pretty interesting sushi in the coming years. [05:01]
BingoBoingo Diablo-D3: Whales might skip the spears. Not every romanticizes the caveman days dude. [05:01]
pankkake Diablo-D3: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/12/david-agus-rules-to-live-longer/all/ [05:02]
BingoBoingo Diablo-D3: Maybe as food. What do you know of their attitudes towards developing tools though. They obviously know we have the bomb. This isn't James Cameron Fern Gully part Dos. [05:03]
BingoBoingo Diablo-D3: If you want to go that deep no wetsuit can save you from hundreds of times atmospheric pressure. [05:05]
BingoBoingo Diablo-D3: Say that when a whale gets hopped up on complex carbohydrates and amphetamines [05:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.575 = 1.15 BTC [+] [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10576 @ 0.00084709 = 8.9588 BTC [-] {2} [05:07]
BingoBoingo I'm not the one trying to bring a homo erectus lifestyle into a Cro Magnon world [05:08]
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BingoBoingo These things, unlike Dogecoiners have the self awareness to relaze they have been wronged. What happens when these sources of delicious ocean pork ger angry Diablo-D3 [05:11]
BingoBoingo Our only hope is going to be the most honorable Japanese crew of the Nissin Maru [05:11]
BingoBoingo http://blog.seattlepi.com/candacewhiting/2013/03/22/killer-whale-attacks-on-trainers-video-and-mind-boggling-chart-documenting-the-occurrences/ [05:11]
ozbot Killer Whale Attacks on Trainers (Video) and Mind-boggling Chart Documenting the Occurrences [05:12]
BingoBoingo If we wnt to live, we have to eat them [05:12]
BingoBoingo Or feed them to the poor Bitcoinless [05:12]
BingoBoingo Honestly I'd prefer a nice hefeweizen as breakfast, but OHNO WHEAT CALL THE PALEO POLIZE [05:14]
pankkake time to listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHVkJgwAXgE [05:14]
BingoBoingo As far as I am concerned Ahab's mistake was he acted outside of his economic and mortal interests. His job was leading people to get oil, much as oil is gotten now. In bulk and fuck the source. No he wanted to kill one particular whale and passed the opportunity to kill so many others for their incredibly useful fuel. [05:18]
BingoBoingo And if he hadn't been killed by Whitey his crew would have mutinee'd eventually because they only got paid a share of what they could sell the oil they harvested for. [05:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1200 @ 0.00084722 = 1.0167 BTC [+] [05:19]
KRS1 .d [05:19]
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pankkake ;;ud ahab [05:20]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ahab | A guy who prefers screwing fat chicks, simple as that. Ahab is a reference to the captain of the ship that was chasing the giant white whale in Mob... [05:20]
KRS1 .bait [05:21]
deadweasel >-8O [05:21]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: ahab [05:21]
ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5rpvgiJet1r0x4fco1_1280.jpg [05:21]
BingoBoingo The most educative part of Moby Dick was when they discussed how the crew got paid and for what [05:21]
KRS1 .bait [05:22]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0gsfrF15E1r3yc8oo1_1280.jpg [05:22]
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pankkake way too much photoshop [05:22]
KRS1 ;;ud paleface 4 [05:23]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=paleface | Paleface. A term used by writers of "Cowboy and Indian" movies generally spoken ... 4. Paleface. The act of ejaculating into one's dominant hand, then giving an ... [05:23]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: paleface [05:23]
mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea06e086ec89f3051643916c54ba4cdd/tumblr_muzwnwtgcp1ru15g3o1_500.jpg [05:23]
mircea_popescu better bait service. [05:23]
deadweasel y u no like my ascii pr0n? [05:24]
KRS1 Certainly much better bait than Capt. Ahab used. [05:24]
deadweasel could be woman, could be a dick with tits [05:24]
deadweasel whatever you want [05:25]
KRS1 Trilema had quite a nice collection of bait. [05:25]
BingoBoingo deadweasel: That ascii make you look like that gayfish COinye [05:25]
deadweasel http://www.bravoerotica.com/met-art/lalow-a/elasma/9.html [05:25]
ozbot Free Naked Picture #9 « Elasma « Met Art « Free Naked Galleries @ [05:25]
deadweasel i do that all by myself, BingoBoingo [05:25]
KRS1 Ewww hair. She must be European. [05:25]
deadweasel don't ascii art to be gayfishye [05:25]
deadweasel need* [05:26]
deadweasel it was a nice change of pace [05:26]
deadweasel oh noes , hair!@ [05:26]
KRS1 :X [05:26]
KRS1 dqc.org has rather gaye fish http://dqc.org/ [05:27]
deadweasel what's this bitcoin thing again? is it still a thing? [05:28]
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pankkake gold for teenagers [05:29]
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KRS1 Magic Internet Money? [05:29]
BingoBoingo This is why Bitcoin is better than fiat. In fiat they have to put concrete shoes on you for the fishes to whoop your ass. In Bitcoin, motherfuckers bac buy Tillikum to feed you to an original oceanic badass without that concrete bullshit. [05:30]
pankkake a bait courtesy of my hard drive: http://imgur.com/a/12k2i [05:31]
KRS1 damn how come shit like that doesnt happen when I go to the Mall [05:31]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [14:53]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [14:53]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013 [14:53]
midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio_ [14:53]
midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio_ [14:53]
mircea_popescu yo mike_c you here ? [14:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://imgur.com/XOKeKA7 for the lolz :D [14:57]
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TomServo .d [15:32]
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mircea_popescu btw, if anyone's looking for a sure thing : [15:36]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ [15:36]
ozbot BitBet - BTC/USD at MtGox will be above $150 on Mar 1st 2014 [15:36]
mircea_popescu it's a lock! [15:36]
mircea_popescu ;;google mircea popescu [15:40]
gribble Mircea Popescu (Mircea_Popescu) on Twitter: ; Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; MPEx - Bitcoin: [15:40]
mircea_popescu herp. google you got the top 3 backwards! [15:40]
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mike_c mircea_popescu: i am now. [16:13]
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pankkake BingoBoingo: reddit, like twitter, is good because you can ignore it altogether. the people that spend their time there have almost no influence outside of it [16:24]
KRS1 Ahoj rumunčina milovníci a priatelia!! [16:24]
pankkake just delete your account. you will feel better [16:24]
kakobrekla ;;tslb [16:25]
gribble Time since last block: 27 minutes and 38 seconds [16:25]
kakobrekla .d [16:25]
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mircea_popescu KRS1 is that something about romanians ? [16:26]
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KRS1 "Hello Romanian lovers and friends!" I'm just being stupid and playing with google translate..i was going to paste that in #bitcoin-romania but hardly anyone is in there. I found that chan listed on a wiki [16:30]
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KRS1 I was using google translate last night with my spanish housekeeper...we never talked so much before. [16:31]
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KRS1 Hey there LorenzoMoney [16:33]
KRS1 laughter and lel make only human [16:40]
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mircea_popescu haha [16:50]
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mircea_popescu lol [17:28]
mircea_popescu thinking the feds are investigating is like thinking alcoholics are drinking. [17:28]
mircea_popescu what the fuck else would they do ? skip down the street, go shopping for pretty bows, strip down to bras and panties for a tickle fight ? [17:29]
TomServo lol [17:30]
TomServo such imagery [17:30]
mircea_popescu :) [17:31]
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mircea_popescu much teenoge. [17:33]
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KRS1 haha [17:52]
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Duffer1 " Early on I made the strategic decision to make my exchange inaccessible to the offensively stupid poor. I do not mean the poor, poverty in itself is just a state, it means nothing. I do not mean the stupid, stupidity in itself is just a state, it means nothing. The offensively stupid poor are however not simply stupid and not simply poor. They are something like Inaba." [17:57]
Duffer1 damn man that is harsh lol [17:58]
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wao-ender wow [18:02]
wao-ender mircea_popescu: is that true, that Remus Cernea will accept Bitcoins? [18:02]
mircea_popescu uh [18:03]
mircea_popescu afaik he'd accept used towels and half eaten chips [18:03]
wao-ender :D [18:03]
mircea_popescu possibly romania's most spineless attention seeking whore, that guy. [18:05]
wao-ender http://adevarul.ro/locale/constanta/remus-cernea-prezidentiabil-accepta-donatii-bitcoin-1_52d822e7c7b855ff5689ebcb/index.html but you probably read it yet [18:06]
mircea_popescu i hadn't, no. [18:07]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/mici-si-bere-si-circ/ << his entry in politics. [18:08]
ozbot Mici si bere. Si circ. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [18:08]
mircea_popescu guy announced he's going to set himself on fire in front of some tv station [18:08]
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mircea_popescu but get this : in protest of political gimmickry! [18:08]
mircea_popescu so people were like... um... ? [18:08]
mircea_popescu and then he set on fire... a... picture of himself printed on paper. [18:09]
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mircea_popescu kinda the shortest political career in history, lasted all of thirty seconds. [18:09]
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mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/dc-gas-leaks.jpg washington farts map [18:16]
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rattaTATatatat obama on tv speaking on NSA [18:18]
asciilifeform and he spewed forth his placebo: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/ppd-28.pdf [18:18]
asciilifeform in other, more interesting news: http://rt.com/usa/littoral-pentagon-order-cut-735/ [18:19]
Duffer1 i like that the Dishfire story hit the day before obama's speech [18:21]
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rattaTATatatat sounds mostly like obama is defending the status [18:27]
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rattaTATatatat he's mad at snowden [18:29]
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rattaTATatatat says some countries feigned surprise about snowden leaks [18:33]
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nubbins` so this happened earlier today: http://imgur.com/NfSJfko [18:57]
mircea_popescu aww [19:02]
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nubbins` apparently three dozen was too many to carry in his current state of inxotication [19:06]
nubbins` FWIW those are empties [19:07]
pankkake http://i.imgur.com/NYfqh1N.png [19:09]
nubbins` HAHAHA [19:09]
nubbins` jesus wept [19:09]
mircea_popescu jesus ver ? [19:10]
nubbins` i see what you did there! [19:11]
nubbins` ("Jesus wept" is a popular mild oath here) [19:12]
nubbins` two of those boxes and fifteen of the empties were left where they fell, :( [19:14]
deadweasel damn, he probably didn't have enough return change to get a 40 [19:18]
deadweasel sad [19:18]
nubbins` the third box was left smashed outside the store [19:20]
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deadweasel he's going to have to settle for unhooking the freon fromt his window AC unit. [19:21]
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nubbins` ^ [19:42]
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deadweasel They're both good! [19:46]
deadweasel and nobody has smallpox anymore [19:46]
deadweasel they all died, just in a lab now, afaik [19:47]
deadweasel so nobody would thank me [19:47]
ll ...declared eradicated in 2011 :/ [19:47]
ll mmm sry 1979 [19:48]
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deadweasel as long as it's in a lab, I wouldn't call it eradicated.. [19:49]
deadweasel on ice maybe [19:50]
nubbins` ^ [19:56]
thestringpuller nubbins`: can we talk? [19:58]
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nubbins` always! [20:03]
benkay asciilifeform: would love to hear your thoughts on flaws and such in cjdns: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns [20:03]
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KRS1 whats to stop me from spoofing an address? [20:10]
jurov KRS1 but that was Slovak language... wtf? [20:13]
jurov don't tell me you're in fact around here, too [20:13]
KRS1 lol no, but i am suprised there are that many in that part of the world [20:14]
Apocalyptic heh [20:14]
KRS1 i was in a humerous mood earlier.. [20:19]
KRS1 it finally went below 73 degrees fahrenheit here and I was all energiezed [20:19]
nubbins` lovely [20:19]
nubbins` it was 14c here today [20:19]
KRS1 nubbins.. [20:20]
KRS1 lol [20:20]
nubbins` almost all of the snow has melted [20:20]
KRS1 you get +1 for Fireball [20:20]
KRS1 The Canadian Cinnamon Whiskey [20:20]
nubbins` only in your books ;) [20:20]
KRS1 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! [20:20]
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nubbins` try to track down some iceberg vodka [20:20]
KRS1 haha ok ill letcha know [20:20]
KRS1 I'm off to the liquor store now for more smokes and more cinnamon whiskey [20:21]
KRS1 Its not like cinnamon schnapps, which is oily and thick..this is nice and smooth..can sip it for hours. [20:21]
nubbins` cool [20:21]
nubbins` are you a beer drinker at all? [20:21]
KRS1 yes but only beer, mainly domestic like Bud or Miller. If I go foreign its either Heineken or Becks..but only beer, no lager or that thick crap the Brits drink. [20:22]
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nubbins` i can't get into porters or stouts [20:22]
nubbins` do enjoy the scattered pint of ale [20:22]
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nubbins` heh [20:23]
KRS1 bbiaf liquor store run [20:23]
nubbins` nah, join us [20:23]
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KRS1 outta smokes :O [20:24]
nubbins` past year or two, i've been drinking wheat beers almost exclusively [20:24]
nubbins` krombacher wiezen being the current favourite [20:24]
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Neil .d [20:37]
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benkay beers make my tummy sad [20:38]
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asciilifeform benkay: admittedly i only read the intro, but i see nothing about counter-MITM strategy. [20:51]
asciilifeform overall, crypto tastes best when used deliberately, by human trigger, rather than an invisible protocol layer. [20:51]
KRS1 right..IP is just another layer of the osi model..while this DNS solution is a nice one, probably pretty secure, its not an end-all solution for network security. [20:52]
KRS1 I like how cryptography is a part of it, but imo still subject to the classic weak points. [20:53]
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diametric i'm still mad i spent all that time learning the OSI model and its not even used really. [21:08]
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deadweasel omg corporate fucking rage [21:12]
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deadweasel if these people have another fucking opinion, I'm going to tweak their application so that every pet who uses these labs will die. [21:12]
nubbins` heh [21:12]
deadweasel poor little pets don't deserve it [21:13]
deadweasel but i want to kill something [21:13]
deadweasel someone [21:13]
deadweasel s [21:13]
deadweasel death to corporate middle management!~ [21:13]
nubbins` better get this day started [21:14]
nubbins` peace [21:14]
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KRS1 corporate middle management typically are Asperger at best. [21:17]
KRS1 Many claim to understand I.T. [21:17]
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KRS1 This typically comes with delusional behavior accompanied by marked characteristic megalomaniac traits. [21:18]
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pankkake "Cognitive is not a real company." [21:35]
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Apocalyptic dat statement [21:37]
Apocalyptic mind-blowing [21:37]
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Namworld What statement? [21:39]
Apocalyptic "Cognitive is not a real company." [21:39]
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pankkake maybe he meant virtual; but that's not how I read it first [21:40]
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KRS1 deadweasel hang in there, you arent the only one dealing with mental retardation in suits and ties [22:00]
deadweasel thanks KRS1, I've been writing rae emails for 2 hours and deleting them. [22:05]
deadweasel rage* [22:05]
deadweasel i'm rage crashing now [22:05]
KRS1 oh shit careful [22:05]
KRS1 i know that feeling very well..its almost therapeudic [22:05]
KRS1 my last job i had to stop caring..after a wihle it was like a load of bricks was lifted off me..the problems that i was solving then became quite apparent. [22:06]
KRS1 email is a fucked up thing once you hit send there is little you can do =/ [22:07]
KRS1 some emails i was glad i sent and turned out okay..others..well people dont want to be told what they dont want to hear [22:07]
deadweasel My boss pulls me aside, for the first feedback whatsoever in 1.75 years, tells me his boss asked about my 'absence' which is less than any other employee on my team... I just sit in front of his office. [22:07]
deadweasel also, the family men are jealous of my single freedom. [22:07]
deadweasel motherfuckers [22:08]
KRS1 yes that happens [22:08]
Apocalyptic dem haters [22:08]
deadweasel ^ [22:08]
deadweasel i delete all rage emails these days. [22:08]
KRS1 seems like they have to come up with something..just for the derp of it..i came to realize my bosses had bosses too and shit goes downhill [22:08]
deadweasel didn't use to... my father doesnt talk to me much anymore. [22:08]
deadweasel asshole [22:08]
deadweasel i haven't done it yet [22:09]
deadweasel :) [22:09]
deadweasel *YET* [22:09]
KRS1 its not the technology thats hard, its the people [22:09]
deadweasel ^ [22:09]
deadweasel ya [22:09]
KRS1 my last I.T. position was a political nightmare [22:09]
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deadweasel IT is a nightmare altogether. [22:09]
KRS1 it can be with the wrong company [22:10]
KRS1 but ya takes effort..gotta always stay on top of things..knowledge..but thats with any kind of knowledge job. [22:10]
deadweasel So yeah, I'm supposed to now manage the perceptions of his boss and two developers who stay at work long time cos they hate their families [22:10]
deadweasel FUCK THEM IN THE FUCKING EARHOLE [22:11]
KRS1 www.dice.com [22:11]
KRS1 Be happy..move. [22:11]
deadweasel lol [22:11]
deadweasel i'm at the best company in the state. [22:11]
KRS1 One thing I hate about IT is the jobs dont last long..4-6 yrs was all I could get tops..otherwise its been 1-3 yrs and some consulting gigs that payed well [22:11]
deadweasel good money, I'm just addicted to rageahol [22:11]
KRS1 haha that will catch up to you one day..not good for the health [22:12]
deadweasel no, today is the most rage in upwards of 3 years, i have headache whole 9 yards, usually i'm very accepting [22:12]
KRS1 I'm in south florida..IT sucks here..I figure if I can make it here I can make it anywhere. Pay is about the same as Atlanta [22:12]
deadweasel my ex is moving there to improve the lives of chimpanzees [22:13]
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deadweasel real chimpanzees, not floridians [22:13]
deadweasel :P [22:13]
KRS1 usually...its the fucken people that make the job sux. [22:13]
KRS1 oh lol [22:13]
deadweasel it is always the people [22:13]
KRS1 If she's single, someone..somewhere...is tired of her shit. [22:13]
deadweasel and my raction to them [22:13]
deadweasel haha, she's a fucking angel, I just moved on. [22:14]
KRS1 good deal..imo lifes too short to be with one, I've had a blast being a bachelor [22:14]
KRS1 most american women are..fucked in the head. [22:14]
deadweasel ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [22:15]
deadweasel best to love'em and leave'em [22:15]
KRS1 U can usually spot the ones with good upbringing..usually the parents are still together. [22:15]
deadweasel find an exotic one if you can, from some 3rd world country [22:15]
KRS1 Cuban girls are great [22:15]
deadweasel i bet! would love ot find out [22:15]
KRS1 Hard working and devoted..but dont fuck em over..they will love you forever but literally kill you if you cheat. [22:15]
KRS1 and I mean psycho bitch kill you with a knife in the heart just after you wake up on some idle tuesday at 4am [22:16]
deadweasel literally [22:16]
deadweasel yes [22:16]
deadweasel i've had the cops come before [22:16]
deadweasel wathc out for the viking blondes too [22:17]
KRS1 love the viking blondes [22:17]
KRS1 FUCKING LOVE THEM [22:17]
benkay hey what cheapo laptop do i want to buy for dual-booting windows and nixen? [22:17]
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twizt lol [22:17]
diametric KRS1: so did the vikings, thats why they killed the rest. [22:18]
KRS1 socute http://ui.betonline.ag/m/img/content/samantha-ponder.jpg [22:19]
KRS1 holy shit the20yearwhat kind of price is that..cant be in the US [22:19]
deadweasel oh yeah it cn [22:19]
deadweasel detroit [22:19]
deadweasel chicago [22:19]
deadweasel you can get 10k houses [22:20]
deadweasel in shithole hoods [22:20]
KRS1 best I found was $220 here in south florida for 3800 sqft 4 br [22:20]
KRS1 no shit [22:20]
KRS1 south florida is overpriced [22:20]
KRS1 thats bankroll..teh flip [22:20]
KRS1 I'm not far from snobs ville Boca Raton [22:20]
KRS1 big money [22:21]
KRS1 i [22:21]
KRS1 i'm trying to get a place near where i live (in the country past the suburbs) 3800-4000sq fq for low to mid $200K-$250K on 1-2 acres [22:22]
KRS1 its doable but getting harder to find [22:22]
KRS1 cant find acreage anymore here [22:22]
KRS1 hole [22:22]
KRS1 ly [22:22]
KRS1 shit [22:22]
KRS1 whats nearest city? [22:23]
KRS1 lies! [22:23]
KRS1 any land? [22:23]
KRS1 not much in ohio [22:23]
KRS1 for IT [22:23]
KRS1 heard horror stories about trying to make a living there [22:24]
KRS1 im sure its a great place to retire [22:24]
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KRS1 looks nice [22:24]
KRS1 suburban Atlanta is real nice too [22:25]
KRS1 I like the brick homes [22:25]
KRS1 are u looking to buy? [22:25]
KRS1 or is that your biz? [22:25]
KRS1 this is the time to do that! [22:25]
KRS1 im not keen on owning real estate long term though..not confident enough in it..many sectors of our economy are not doing well and I think agricultural land is one [22:26]
KRS1 for an investment for instance [22:26]
KRS1 no better time than now to flip imo [22:27]
KRS1 ya franchising will get you the funding to do a lot and get you going..smart. [22:27]
KRS1 ya not sure what to make of that [22:28]
KRS1 probably because credit is hard to get [22:28]
KRS1 i gotta get in before the intrest rates go up [22:28]
KRS1 i have a phenominal credit score and i'm still afraid of being accepted [22:29]
KRS1 5%-6% and cant get a loan damn [22:29]
KRS1 wtf do they want? 50% down? [22:29]
KRS1 thats historically plenty [22:29]
KRS1 jumbo loans or something? [22:30]
KRS1 oh give me a break [22:30]
KRS1 you are almost at the point to look for private funding [22:30]
KRS1 maybe its the real estate economy [22:31]
KRS1 banks took a beating in RE [22:31]
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KRS1 I have a guy who is a genius at this shit lmk if you want his # he has done shit for me that i thought was both illegal and impossible..including buying tradelines [22:32]
Apocalyptic the20year, they can via coinbr [22:32]
KRS1 totally [22:32]
KRS1 the shit this guy has done i think he's even more kickass than a lawyer f'n amazing [22:33]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [22:33]
KRS1 lol [22:33]
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ozbot 1789546951.05324 | Next Diff in 1217 blocks | Estimated Change: 17.4833% in 6d 23h 18m 16s [22:43]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 2000 @ 0.00162868 = 3.2574 BTC [-] {2} [22:46]
TomServo the20year: or 25 with a referral, last I heard. [22:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 7 @ 0.0262 = 0.1834 BTC [-] [22:49]
mike_c that's the fee to get account. [22:49]
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mike_c don't know. probably negotiable :) [22:51]
KRS1 NO SOUP FOR YOU! [22:52]
mike_c you can certainly ask for anything. [22:52]
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mike_c to be clear, you do need an account to list. [22:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.0262 = 0.3406 BTC [-] [22:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 356 @ 0.00042034 = 0.1496 BTC [+] {3} [22:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00534795 = 0.123 BTC [+] [23:04]
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Duffer1 i thought you were moving forward with havelock listing [23:09]
Duffer1 i see i see [23:09]
Duffer1 i can see justification for 30btc for a mpex user account [23:12]
Duffer1 but i can see problems with issuers needing similar amounts [23:13]
Duffer1 30btc is no small amount of capital to a business with fiat exposure [23:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41009 @ 0.00085181 = 34.9319 BTC [-] {3} [23:14]
mike_c the20year: yeah, account cost with referral is 25 btc. listing fee idk. [23:16]
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KRS1 the Wall St. Journal will soon be doing an article on the angel investment made to bitcoin startups. [23:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 635 @ 0.00047991 = 0.3047 BTC [+] {5} [23:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.005348 = 0.1123 BTC [+] [23:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 53 @ 0.005348 = 0.2834 BTC [+] {2} [23:31]
pankkake $10k is close to the price per square meter around here [23:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19350 @ 0.00084936 = 16.4351 BTC [-] {2} [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00084828 = 11.1973 BTC [-] [23:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04999998 = 0.25 BTC [+] [23:46]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1504 @ 0.00009102 = 0.1369 BTC [-] [23:50]
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