Forum logs for 17 Aug 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu only thing we can fix in this world is ourselves. [00:00]
Diablo-D3 DMC is making these small mistakes here and there, and others ARE learning from it [00:00]
Diablo-D3 this is a good thing [00:00]
mircea_popescu what do you figure is going better because of dmc ? [00:00]
Diablo-D3 theres talk about other companies going the same route as DMC [00:01]
Diablo-D3 and that talk makes me very happy [00:01]
kakobreklaa being devalued? [00:01]
mircea_popescu talk. [00:01]
kakobreklaa or other route [00:01]
Diablo-D3 kakobreklaa: bootstrapping through bitcoin [00:01]
mircea_popescu if talk makes you happy you should spend time with whores. [00:01]
Diablo-D3 afk for a sec [00:01]
mircea_popescu ... [00:01]
mircea_popescu you can't seriously think you invented "bootstrapping" though bitcoin. [00:02]
dub you can't seriously think you can have a serious conversation about DMC [00:05]
dub you need to first smoke all teh rocks [00:05]
PsychoticBoy lol [00:07]
mircea_popescu eh, why not. [00:07]
dub telnet twrhis1 [00:07]
dub shit [00:07]
PsychoticBoy omg diablo how on earth are you ever going to make 1M$ to make your company come true? [00:08]
dub mircea_popescu: because Diablo-D3 is delusional from all teh crack rocks he smoked [00:08]
mircea_popescu im reading up on this jro drama. these forum idiots... ah god they're so friggin ridiculious. they're exactly but exactly like any other 30something incompetent but ambitious circlejerk. [00:08]
PsychoticBoy lmfao first 1 btc now 0.02, painfull investment [00:08]
mircea_popescu it's sad what all the prep talks and "creativity" training has done to this generation. [00:09]
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dub I can't even read about it [00:10]
dub I saw "Bitcoin Police" and closed the page [00:10]
dub what a fucking joke [00:10]
Diablo-D3 back [00:10]
mircea_popescu you're missing out on some vaguely gay very pretentious stupidity. [00:10]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I didnt invent it bootstrapping through bitcoin, Im making people take it seriously [00:11]
mircea_popescu wouldn't you think this is something better left to "people" to say ? [00:11]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: if other companies are going to end up taking this route, then the people already have spoken [00:12]
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mircea_popescu mno. i could just as well point out that it's because mpex went from 300k to ~5mn valuation, it's mpex that people are speaking about. [00:12]
mircea_popescu fact of the matter is all this is pretty banal. a currency exists. [00:12]
mircea_popescu the rest just follows. [00:13]
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mircea_popescu be that as it may, the problems with your design are that anyone can run the newer fpgas. the days when gpu's required competence from the operator are gone. [00:15]
mircea_popescu as such, the benefits of making a large company out of many fpgas are neglectable [00:15]
mircea_popescu and so people aren't really very interested in facing the cp risk involved. [00:15]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: well, mining isnt even the issue [00:16]
Diablo-D3 selling datacenter space to customers who need high density computation is extremely profitable [00:16]
Diablo-D3 very few DCs in the US focus on this [00:16]
mircea_popescu that may be. [00:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 4 @ 0.99999898 = 4 BTC [+] [00:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 4 @ 0.99999899 = 4 BTC [+] [00:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+] [00:16]
mircea_popescu but again, it's not what you said you'll do. [00:16]
Diablo-D3 actually it is [00:16]
Diablo-D3 read the plan [00:16]
mircea_popescu quote. [00:17]
dub don't bother, its retarded [00:17]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: the only thing I need to do is add to the plan more specifics about the datacenter now that I've worked out the cost and planning for it [00:17]
mircea_popescu but quote. [00:17]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: first part of it [00:18]
Diablo-D3 The Facility [00:18]
mircea_popescu The Facility [00:18]
mircea_popescu A dedicated facility will be purchased or built on un-/under-developed land located in Maine due to our cold 6 months out of the year environment and lack of natural disasters. $150k will be set aside for this purpose as a soft estimate. [00:18]
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mircea_popescu you want to build a "facility". [00:18]
Diablo-D3 a data center. [00:18]
mircea_popescu do you have any ideea how much... uh i dunno. gnax atlanta cost ? [00:19]
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mircea_popescu you can't build a detached family house for 150k in maine. [00:19]
Diablo-D3 you'd be surprised how cheap stuff is [00:19]
dub stop trying to approach this with logic [00:19]
mircea_popescu the generators for a decent facility run in the millions. [00:19]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: a full sized facility is a thousand or ten thousand racks [00:20]
mircea_popescu a mid size up to par with current specs dc costs about 1bn atm. [00:20]
Diablo-D3 Im building one for several dozen racks. [00:20]
dub you are talking to a shut-in, who lives in a fantasy world of drawn japanese people and cronic masturabation [00:20]
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mircea_popescu there's a very good reason why there's no dcs made out for 50 racks Diablo-D3 [00:20]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: Im quite aware how much backup generators and cooling cost. [00:20]
mircea_popescu the same reason there's no 1/8th of a person cars [00:20]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: it is for a prototype. [00:20]
Diablo-D3 it works quite well. [00:20]
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mircea_popescu prototyping is a term of art. [00:21]
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mircea_popescu it is used to mean something very speciffic. [00:21]
mircea_popescu to wit, that thing which people with a lot of money do. [00:21]
Diablo-D3 yes, and then the software industry stole the term [00:21]
mircea_popescu if all you have is 100k and you spend 100k, you did not buy a prototype. [00:21]
mircea_popescu on a total budget of 100k a prototype could cost at most 2-3k [00:21]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yes, and what would happen if I announced DMC would actually cost several billion? [00:22]
mircea_popescu people would point out you're not qualified to handle several billion. [00:22]
mircea_popescu are you ? [00:22]
dub wait till we get to teh bit where his real business case is green energy [00:22]
Diablo-D3 If Im not, then no one in the community is. [00:22]
mircea_popescu which si true. nobody in the community is. [00:22]
mircea_popescu which is also why people don't partner with "anyone in the community". [00:22]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: the community has to start somewhere. [00:22]
mircea_popescu yes. that somewhere however is not pretending to be and do things they aren't and can't do. [00:23]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: which is why Im asking for a million, not a billion. [00:23]
mircea_popescu thart's a great way to painfully die. [00:23]
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mircea_popescu dub nothing wrong with green energy. [00:24]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: btw, were you referring atlantanap? [00:24]
dub mircea_popescu: sure, if you are an energy company [00:25]
mircea_popescu no. [00:25]
Diablo-D3 got a url for the one you were thinking of? [00:25]
dub mircea_popescu: if you are an internet asshat.. [00:25]
mircea_popescu a yes, yes. thart's what they call it. [00:25]
mircea_popescu AtlantaNAP 1100 White Street, SW | Atlanta, GA 30310 [00:25]
Diablo-D3 yeah [00:26]
Diablo-D3 thats only 75k square feet [00:26]
mircea_popescu it's not huge, by any means. [00:26]
Diablo-D3 I'd be surprised if it cost more than 25 million [00:26]
mircea_popescu ... [00:27]
mircea_popescu the paperwork is more than 25 million. [00:27]
Diablo-D3 sorry my 0 key isnt working [00:27]
Diablo-D3 250 million [00:27]
mircea_popescu it was more, but anyway [00:27]
mircea_popescu 36,000 gallon storage tank to hold make-up water for cooling towers [00:27]
mircea_popescu Private well to supply make-up water (well is backed up by city water) [00:27]
mircea_popescu they had to make their own water supply and various other shits. [00:27]
Diablo-D3 yeah, Im not surprised [00:27]
mircea_popescu there's a reason why projects are always over budget. [00:27]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: btw [00:28]
Diablo-D3 re $150k [00:28]
Diablo-D3 Im seriously considering upping that to $250k [00:28]
Diablo-D3 although it may not look it, but I really have been pricing out what we need [00:28]
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mircea_popescu again, i have no doubt that you're earnestly trying. [00:28]
Diablo-D3 mining hardware will probably end up coming last. [00:28]
Diablo-D3 surprised they went with diesel powered generators though [00:29]
Diablo-D3 doesnt atlanta have natgas? [00:29]
mircea_popescu you'd go with atomic ? [00:29]
mircea_popescu gas was too difficult to get all the permits for iirc. [00:29]
Diablo-D3 ahh too bad [00:29]
mircea_popescu i only have a vague recollection, anyway. [00:30]
Diablo-D3 bloomboxes are really nice from what Ive heard [00:30]
mircea_popescu One 2 MW diesel-powered generator with static ATS. [00:30]
Diablo-D3 every customer who has them has been very happy with them [00:30]
Diablo-D3 (although I imagine bloom energy has been greatly gaming the PR aspect) [00:30]
smickles anything new today? [00:30]
mircea_popescu Factory price 2 mw diesel generator with CE ISO [00:30]
mircea_popescu Other products by Output Type: AC Three Phase FOB Price: US $ 2,000 - 12,000 / Set [00:30]
mircea_popescu on alibaba :D [00:30]
Diablo-D3 lol alibaba [00:31]
mircea_popescu trust me. a 2mw costs more than 2-12k [00:31]
Diablo-D3 yeah no shit [00:31]
mircea_popescu i'm just pointing out that pricing may be a little more difficult than it seems. [00:31]
mircea_popescu heya smickles [00:31]
Diablo-D3 I mean fuck, look at a 1mw wind turbine [00:31]
Diablo-D3 thats $1m all said and done [00:31]
smickles howdy mircea_popescu [00:31]
mircea_popescu and obviously a wind turbine powered datacenter would be something very comical. [00:31]
mircea_popescu Supply Ability: 2000 Set/Sets per Year [00:32]
mircea_popescu Payment Terms: L/C,T/T,Western Union [00:32]
mircea_popescu ahaha this is great. [00:32]
mircea_popescu so this alibaba vendor can sell me 2k 2MW units per year [00:32]
mircea_popescu payment via WU [00:32]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: its not that comical [00:35]
smickles i can see it now, Diablo-D3's warehouse with 1000 of these http://compare.ebay.com/like/300637929477?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar [00:35]
Diablo-D3 maine forces the power companies to buy back power at high prices [00:35]
Diablo-D3 smickles: lol, small turbines are shit [00:36]
dub Diablo-D3: I'm installing ~$1m worth of gear in two racks in different DC's at the moment [00:36]
Diablo-D3 dub: haha awesome [00:36]
dub to cable out fibre and power is ~$88k [00:36]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: but yeah, I really want to do combined solar and wind, but wind is going to be really fucking expensive for the budget [00:36]
dub four peices of kit [00:36]
Diablo-D3 dub: hawt [00:37]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 did you ever work as tech in a dc ? [00:37]
dub a better question would be, has Diablo-D3 EVER worked [00:37]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: no, but I know a surprisingly large number of people who do [00:38]
mircea_popescu ok, why not ? [00:38]
Diablo-D3 why not? never had the chance. [00:38]
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mircea_popescu ever applied for such a job ? [00:38]
Diablo-D3 I live in Maine, we dont have jobs like that up here [00:38]
mircea_popescu what, you're rooted in maine ? [00:38]
mircea_popescu people your age travel, it's only natural. [00:38]
* Diablo-D3 shrugs. [00:39]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: although, Im glad I stayed [00:39]
mircea_popescu i tell you, it's bizzare to want to bootstrap a taxicab company when you never ran a cab. [00:39]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: ts not like Im ignorant to how these things are done [00:39]
mircea_popescu i didn't say you were. [00:39]
mircea_popescu i said you never had the opportunity to waste other people's money finding things out. [00:40]
mircea_popescu it'll be a bitch to waste your own. [00:40]
Diablo-D3 well, to be fair [00:40]
Diablo-D3 if I had a million dollars in the bank [00:40]
Diablo-D3 I would have done it myself. [00:40]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure of that, yeah. [00:40]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: the most expensive part of this wont be the data cente though [00:41]
Diablo-D3 its the power generation [00:41]
mircea_popescu the most expensive part of a project run by someone with great ambition and no experience is always the management. [00:42]
mircea_popescu this is exceedingly well proven in teh history of business. [00:42]
Diablo-D3 of course, but this is why Im not doing it alone [00:42]
mircea_popescu o ? [00:42]
Diablo-D3 I have people who are in the industry who are advising me on various points [00:42]
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mircea_popescu yet another thing the prospective investor would have not found out from yoru contract. [00:43]
mircea_popescu you have any ideea what's the one thing investors hate ? [00:43]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: glbse sucks. [00:43]
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Diablo-D3 and I hope thats the number one thing. [00:43]
mircea_popescu haha well, surprises i was gonna say [00:43]
mircea_popescu but you tempt me so. [00:43]
Diablo-D3 seriously, glbse has room for a contract, but not anything else [00:44]
Diablo-D3 I mean, in the real world, we dont even have shit like this [00:44]
Diablo-D3 I dont go to NYSE's website to trade stocks, I go through a broker, and most brokers barely list any info about companies [00:44]
Diablo-D3 you have to go to the company website to learn anything [00:44]
mircea_popescu well, brokering is hard work and requires a large set of rare skills. [00:45]
Diablo-D3 yes it does [00:45]
mircea_popescu i been trying to get it going, but it's slow. [00:45]
Diablo-D3 so does making the stock exchange itself [00:45]
mircea_popescu i suppose it's not flashy enough for kids today. [00:45]
Diablo-D3 I think what I should do is just bust out a web 2.0'ey kind of website for DMC [00:45]
Diablo-D3 and just solve all the problems [00:45]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I mean, you're right, investors hate surprises [00:46]
Diablo-D3 _I_ don't like surprises. [00:46]
mircea_popescu it stands to reason you should make a website before registering the security, actually. why not ? a blog is five minutes' work. [00:46]
Diablo-D3 blogs dont sell. [00:46]
mircea_popescu but your company has a site now. news can be published, people can ask you questions. [00:47]
Diablo-D3 and the reason I didnt have a website first is because thats not how things have been done in bitcoin [00:47]
Diablo-D3 its always been bitcointalk threads only [00:47]
Diablo-D3 and it just doesnt work [00:47]
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Diablo-D3 its doing more harm to glbse companies than good [00:47]
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mircea_popescu well that'd have been a great point to innovate. [00:48]
mircea_popescu whoa jesus ?! that bad ? .78 ?! [00:48]
dub ;;ticker [00:49]
gribble Best bid: 13.34997, Best ask: 13.34998, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.34999, 24 hour volume: 103091, 24 hour low: 12.5, 24 hour high: 13.84119 [00:49]
Diablo-D3 so close to 13.37 <3 [00:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10700 @ 0.00078125 = 8.3594 BTC [+] [00:49]
mircea_popescu lol [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 600 @ 0.00079934 = 0.4796 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 24861 @ 0.00080303 = 19.9641 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15630 @ 0.00095137 = 14.8699 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7816 @ 0.00098397 = 7.6907 BTC [+] [00:49]
dub Diablo-D3: it was 1337 on btccharts.. [00:49]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: but yeah, the thread just doesnt sell it [00:50]
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Diablo-D3 Ive been selling it by hand, but thats just not an efficient use of my time [00:50]
mircea_popescu well another part of the problem is that there's very little analysis work done [00:51]
mircea_popescu or should i say, publicly released. [00:51]
Diablo-D3 I agree [00:51]
Diablo-D3 but Im not quite done with it either. [00:51]
Diablo-D3 ALTHOUGH [00:51]
Diablo-D3 theres stuff buried in the thread [00:51]
Diablo-D3 but that just adds to the fact I hate how that works [00:51]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I want DMC to be more collaborative than it is [00:52]
mircea_popescu bitcointalk is dysfunctional because it creates this false sense of community [00:52]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is a currency, not a post count. [00:52]
Diablo-D3 but theres only been like 2 shareholders who bother being vocal [00:52]
Diablo-D3 exactly [00:52]
Diablo-D3 it doesnt work [00:52]
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mircea_popescu well, part of the nonvocal non collaborative etc is that you get bristly when people say things. [00:53]
Diablo-D3 meh, Im that kind of person [00:53]
Diablo-D3 although, the best companies in the world have been ran by asshole CEOs [00:53]
mircea_popescu i am an asshole. there's a difference between asshole and that. [00:54]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I'd be what pg calls a technical founder [00:55]
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Diablo-D3 I know everything needed backwards and forwards, but I dont have a userfriendly interface [00:56]
mircea_popescu you know everything needed for building a dc backwards and forwards ? [00:56]
Diablo-D3 surprisingly yes. [00:56]
Diablo-D3 and what I dont know can easily be purchased. [00:56]
Diablo-D3 its not like Im going out there with a trow and some bricks [00:57]
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mircea_popescu well... in maine... i can see it. bricks, trow, [00:57]
Diablo-D3 I'll be hiring companies every step of the way to do the work [00:57]
mircea_popescu out of 150k ?! [00:58]
Diablo-D3 like I said, the $150k estimate may have been wrong [00:59]
Diablo-D3 I was just going to do just a dozen racks [00:59]
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Diablo-D3 but its not representative of the problem at that small of a size [00:59]
mircea_popescu what if one of these subcontractors fucks you over ? [00:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.98 = 9.8 BTC [-] [00:59]
Diablo-D3 then I get a crash course in suing. [00:59]
mircea_popescu a crash course in suing ? [00:59]
mircea_popescu interesting concept. [01:00]
Diablo-D3 as in, I hire a lawyer. [01:00]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: nothing ever goes smoothly [01:00]
mircea_popescu a lawyer practicing corporate may cost you 10k just to hear your case. [01:00]
Diablo-D3 its a rule [01:00]
Diablo-D3 I expect something to go wrong [01:00]
mircea_popescu im not sure what the bar is like in maine. [01:00]
mircea_popescu but in ma it's about there. not even a good one. [01:00]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: this is why a small one is being done first [01:03]
Diablo-D3 even if a subcontractor fucks up, it limits the scope of the damage [01:03]
mircea_popescu yea well, it's a little like playing poker. [01:03]
mircea_popescu they won't likely be able to resist stiffing you, seeing how you're a new face on a bugdet. [01:04]
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dub Diablo-D3: my project budget has more than half your budget (over $85k) just for contingency [01:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.97251 = 1.945 BTC [-] [01:05]
Diablo-D3 dub: well, its a soft estimate [01:05]
dub to reiterate, this is four (4) elements in two (2) racks [01:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.10151 = 3.0453 BTC [-] [01:06]
Diablo-D3 although I should have just went with $250k [01:06]
Diablo-D3 yeah, all Im doing is putting the racks there [01:06]
dub we have 85K set aside for stuff that might crop up [01:06]
Diablo-D3 its people like you who'd do business with me [01:06]
Diablo-D3 I have _the entire budget_ set aside for stuff that might crop up [01:06]
Diablo-D3 its an entirely scalable design. [01:06]
dub spending >$88k on cabling alone [01:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 11 @ 0.1015 = 1.1165 BTC [-] [01:06]
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Diablo-D3 if I burn more money in one spot, I buy less somewhere else [01:07]
dub that doesnt include optics, jsut DC power, fiber and a little cat5 [01:07]
mircea_popescu dub what are you putting in there anyway ? [01:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9725 = 3.89 BTC [-] [01:07]
Diablo-D3 yeah, wtf are you doing [01:07]
Diablo-D3 I can get a 1000 foot spool of cat6a and not spend that much money [01:07]
dub augmentign a small city with extra 10G capacity, a couple of routers and switches [01:08]
dub oh and that cabling is inside plant only, cross town fiber is seperate [01:08]
mircea_popescu a you're doing fiber hook-ups [01:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.165 = 0.99 BTC [-] [01:08]
Diablo-D3 hrm, twitter bootstrap kind of sucks [01:09]
Diablo-D3 I wonder if the new foundation is any good [01:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.02999 = 2.06 BTC [+] [01:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 200 @ 0.00011716 = 0.0234 BTC [+] [01:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.02999999 = 2.06 BTC [+] [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.95 = 9.5 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.399999 BTC [+] [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 6 @ 0.1599 = 0.9594 BTC [+] [01:15]
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mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/y99z3/go_long_or_short_with_bitcoin_again_up_to_10x/c5thkwg [01:26]
mircea_popescu ahahaa this is so darned funny. [01:26]
Obsi Anyone know at what point Godaddy autorenews a domain? [01:26]
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mircea_popescu after it's expired and they can get it ? [01:27]
Diablo-D3 Obsi: you should change obsi.1mhs to daily dividend =P [01:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 3 @ 0.51 = 1.53 BTC [+] [01:27]
Obsi I'd have to change the contract and do more math and stuff [01:28]
Diablo-D3 :< [01:28]
mircea_popescu daily dividends really burn a lot of admin time [01:28]
Diablo-D3 I dont want to wait until the 19th =/ [01:28]
Obsi Diablo-D3: that domain I told you about that is expiring today it still hasn't autorenewed [01:28]
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Diablo-D3 heh [01:28]
Diablo-D3 dude [01:28]
Diablo-D3 godaddy is shit [01:28]
Diablo-D3 why are you still using them [01:28]
Diablo-D3 you should know better [01:29]
Obsi hour and a half till it's expired [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1038 BTC [+] [01:29]
Obsi I'm not using godaddy... they are [01:29]
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Diablo-D3 oh [01:29]
Diablo-D3 then they're fucked lol [01:29]
Obsi it's your fav company of course [01:30]
Diablo-D3 who? [01:30]
Obsi butterflylabs.com [01:30]
MoneyIsDebt google.com is expiring? [01:30]
mircea_popescu ahaha [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.51 BTC [+] [01:30]
Diablo-D3 OH RIGHT [01:30]
Diablo-D3 THEM [01:30]
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Diablo-D3 I KNEW ABOUT THIS [01:31]
Diablo-D3 AND I TOLD EVERYONE [01:31]
Diablo-D3 BUT EVERYONE WAS LIKE [01:31]
Diablo-D3 THEY'LL RENEW [01:31]
Diablo-D3 WELL HOWS THAT GOING FOR YOU?! [01:31]
Obsi I hope they do [01:31]
Diablo-D3 [01:31]
Obsi not sure how godaddy handles it [01:31]
Diablo-D3 I hope they dont, Im hungry for popcorn [01:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+] [01:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 0.989 BTC [-] [01:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] [01:33]
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Ignatius-otc godaddy holds their domains forever, calls and emails countless notices of expiration. I havent had success nabbing expiring domains from them but I wish you luck. [01:34]
Obsi do they wait for the expiration date to pass before auto-renewing? [01:34]
Diablo-D3 Ignatius-otc: they self-squat? wow [01:35]
mircea_popescu hmm, anyone with a reddit account ? [01:35]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: me [01:35]
mircea_popescu Mind putting MPEx up there for a free-for-all pentesting ? [01:35]
Ignatius-otc they self squat for very long periods of time,so that they can then sell the domain back to the true owner for around $100 USD. As for auto-renew before or after expiration, afaik it happens before the actual expiration date. [01:35]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: no [01:36]
mircea_popescu People that manage to get aything useful get faq mentions/1.337 btc [01:36]
dub Obsi: don't know about godaddy but some do [01:36]
Ignatius-otc bfl was it? they sure are busy right now...too busy to field phone calls and emails:P [01:36]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: wont touch that with 25 foot pole [01:36]
mircea_popescu mkay. anyone with a reddit account and a longer pole than Diablo-D3's ? [01:37]
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* Obsi has pole-extender pills for sale [01:38]
mircea_popescu lol [01:38]
smickles i have a reddit acct [01:39]
smickles and i'me better than average in the pole dept. [01:39]
mircea_popescu that;s cool [01:39]
smickles why d'ya ask mp? [01:40]
mircea_popescu so please put mpex up going hey, free for all pentesting, anyone getting anything useful gets faq mentions and 1.337 btc. [01:40]
mircea_popescu reports to be forwarded to http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/office.jpg [01:40]
dub $17? [01:41]
mircea_popescu it's a hacker thing. [01:41]
smickles you want me to ask reddit to hack you? [01:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1179 = 0.2358 BTC [+] [01:41]
mircea_popescu sure. [01:42]
smickles alright, can I have a clearsigned msg saying it's ok by you [01:42]
smickles i'll post it along with it [01:42]
Ignatius-otc that would be good [01:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.105 = 0.21 BTC [+] [01:42]
mircea_popescu ya 1 sec [01:44]
Ignatius-otc Where are you hosted MP? I have yet to find a host who would approve of such a thing/honeypot. [01:44]
smickles so who's buying/selling s.mpoe going into this? :) [01:46]
Ignatius-otc precisely, the reddit crowd would just as quickly ddos [01:46]
smickles mircea_popescu: i hope you have an offline backup of the db [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 0.989 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9998 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.99000001 = 6.93 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 327 @ 0.99 = 323.73 BTC [-] [01:47]
smickles is there a particular subreddit that would be best for this sort of thing? [01:47]
Obsi netsec maybe [01:47]
mircea_popescu smickles http://pastebin.com/jkG76WhE [01:47]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/y99z3/go_long_or_short_with_bitcoin_again_up_to_10x/c5thkwg [01:47]
mircea_popescu whichever this is in [01:47]
smickles ok, /r/bitcoin and i guess i'll crosspost to /r/netsec [01:48]
MoneyIsDebt Somebody start betting on the outcome of this? http://betsofbitco.in [01:49]
mircea_popescu haha that your site ? [01:49]
smickles prolly not [01:49]
MoneyIsDebt not mine, no [01:49]
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Diablo-D3 there is a reddit for pentesting [01:50]
Diablo-D3 Ive seen it when wandering around [01:50]
Obsi might want to clarify it's just over 1 BTC, some people might think you're paying 1,337 [01:52]
Diablo-D3 man my internet has gone to shit awfully fast [01:52]
mircea_popescu i think 1.3 should be clear to anyone nej ? [01:52]
smickles can i say "at least 1.337 BTC"? [01:52]
Diablo-D3 bitcoin uses . not , [01:52]
Diablo-D3 I dont care what your local currency is [01:52]
mircea_popescu smickles why not just copy the clearsigned thing ? [01:52]
Diablo-D3 its . [01:52]
Obsi yeah but many people use . and may get confused [01:52]
smickles oh, i haven't read it yet :o [01:53]
Obsi 1,337 would bring in a whole new class of hackers that you wouldn't want to confuse [01:54]
Ignatius-otc then we might get to see more than a ddos:-/ [01:54]
dub 1,337 isnt a number [01:54]
Diablo-D3 Obsi: :3 [01:54]
Diablo-D3 yes it is [01:54]
mircea_popescu it's two numbers in csv [01:54]
Diablo-D3 one thousand three hundred and thirty seven [01:54]
smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ycgm8/freeforall_pentesting_on_mpex/ [01:54]
mircea_popescu lol you c/p'd the signature too liek a noob! [01:55]
mircea_popescu i meant copy the text and leave a link to the pastebin [01:55]
dub also, who is Micea [01:56]
Ignatius-otc lol [01:56]
mircea_popescu hahaah [01:56]
mircea_popescu poor smickles. he just wanted to help [01:56]
Diablo-D3 spell fail [01:56]
smickles lol, well, i guess i just don't care [01:56]
Diablo-D3 theres an r in there [01:56]
dub mircea_popescu: where is teh faq [01:56]
dub and what timeframe shoudl I give the bet [01:56]
Diablo-D3 SMICKLES / He just doesn't care [01:56]
mircea_popescu first link atop teh site, http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/faq.html [01:56]
mircea_popescu that's just how they roll in smicklandia. [01:57]
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smickles lol, i really f'd it up [01:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 18 @ 0.85 = 15.3 BTC [-] [01:57]
mircea_popescu i'd guess a week ? [01:57]
mircea_popescu i really shouldn't be doing this sorta thing at bedtime [01:57]
mircea_popescu now i'll be too excited to sleep. [01:57]
dub how about a month [01:58]
Diablo-D3 LOL [01:58]
dub can take a week to get the bet approved [01:58]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: HELLO BROTHER! [01:58]
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mircea_popescu thanks smickles [01:58]
Diablo-D3 man, I need to get a short blond friend [01:58]
MoneyIsDebt mircea_popescu: What platform are you running on etc? [01:58]
dub end of september? [01:58]
Diablo-D3 so I have an excuse to wear a giant suit of armor [01:58]
smickles oh, alright, it bothered me, so i corrected it [01:59]
mircea_popescu MoneyIsDebt this'd be just the webserver. [02:00]
smickles 'comon all, upvote it quickly [02:01]
smickles it's an acceleration algo to get to the front page [02:01]
smickles the first hour bein the most important [02:01]
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Diablo-D3 fine fine [02:01]
mircea_popescu o they do the acceleration thing ? [02:02]
dub mircea_popescu: is there a timeframe beyond which you will not honour it? [02:03]
mircea_popescu not really. [02:03]
dub ok, running the bet till end of september [02:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.9901 BTC [-] [02:06]
smickles dub, how about i link to the bet (that you are setting up?) in the reddit post [02:06]
dub would be good but it isnt online until they approve [02:07]
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smickles do they give you a link before it's approved (youtube style)? [02:07]
dub http://www.betsofbitco.in/item?id=566 [02:08]
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MoneyIsDebt dub: cool [02:08]
mircea_popescu does that 566 indicate how many bets so far ? [02:09]
smickles it's like an article id mp [02:10]
mircea_popescu ya but, does it increment by 1 each new proposed bet ? [02:11]
smickles nope [02:11]
smickles i can tell you didn't write your own blog software [02:11]
mircea_popescu mmm, wordpress actually does. [02:12]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: if someone wants to sell options with you, do they need to leave you some coins to cover cases when the options are exercised? [02:12]
mircea_popescu yes coingenuity [02:13]
mircea_popescu oops. copumpkin [02:13]
mircea_popescu 3 points (80% like it) 4 up votes 1 down vote << ok whoddunit! [02:13]
mircea_popescu buncha haters. [02:13]
copumpkin lol, reddit always injects random downvotes [02:13]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: how much do we need to leave with you? [02:13]
mircea_popescu for calls, 1 btc. for puts, the present put value. [02:13]
copumpkin hmm [02:14]
mircea_popescu on a 20 put with price at 10, 1 btc. [02:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.399999 BTC [+] [02:14]
copumpkin I see, I think [02:14]
mircea_popescu it's full coverage, as it were. [02:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.10388 = 0.4155 BTC [+] [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [+] [02:24]
mircea_popescu course on the bet thing... you folks realise that it's darn easy to game [02:27]
mircea_popescu as in, the person who finds a hole steals all yer coinz too. [02:27]
dub yeah, find hole, place bet, exploit hole, ???, profit [02:31]
smickles it's on the front page [02:32]
smickles with 3 upvotes [02:32]
mircea_popescu a hey cool. [02:32]
mircea_popescu you had a golden hand. [02:32]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2604.0 this is not serious ? [02:33]
dub I think it is [02:33]
dub he has been willing to whore himself to any vaguely bitcoin related retardation to date [02:34]
mircea_popescu i see [02:35]
mircea_popescu also, jews. http://firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/ultra-orthodox-jews2.jpg [02:36]
dub probably moreso now, facing liability for bitcoinica shit [02:36]
mircea_popescu submitted 18 minutes ago* by smickles [02:36]
mircea_popescu jeez! i made it 1/4 hour! [02:36]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: wtfimage [02:36]
mircea_popescu more like 40 minutes by my watch but anyway [02:36]
mircea_popescu dub i still don't quite comprehend what those people were thinking. forex-y bitbucket ran by guy in china/taiwan. let us buy it while we reside in fresno ? [02:39]
mircea_popescu what.da.fuck. [02:39]
dub what happened after they took over is more wtf imo [02:41]
dub like, not checking if there were backups.. [02:41]
mircea_popescu like, not insta-changing all pws for everyrhing. [02:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 1.054 = 3.162 BTC [+] [02:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.9001 = 3.6004 BTC [-] [02:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.9 = 1.8 BTC [-] [02:43]
dub both are fairly wtfy [02:43]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is not the fronteer. it's the twilight zone [02:43]
mircea_popescu but for once they splurged and hired kafka's daughter by mark twain to do the script. [02:43]
dub fyi, betsofbitcoin is not widely trusted, I would personally not put any significant amount with them. In case anyone was planning to, don't cry to me :) [02:46]
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mircea_popescu Hi MoneyIsDubstep! [02:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00037686 = 0.3769 BTC [-] [02:50]
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mircea_popescu well this is anticlimatic [02:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.1038 = 10.2762 BTC [-] [02:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18800 @ 0.00037686 = 7.085 BTC [-] [02:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.1599 = 0.4797 BTC [+] [03:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 1.054 = 3.162 BTC [+] [03:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00037686 = 1.3567 BTC [-] [03:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 90 @ 0.03 = 2.7 BTC [-] [03:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3951 = 2.3706 BTC [-] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.395 BTC [-] [03:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.10388 = 2.0776 BTC [+] [03:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.0279 = 4.1116 BTC [+] [03:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.028 BTC [+] [03:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 100 @ 0.03 = 3 BTC [-] [03:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 3 @ 1.4598 = 4.3794 BTC [+] [03:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.06 = 0.6 BTC [+] [03:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 10 @ 0.1 = 1 BTC [+] [03:12]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1500 @ 0.00092147 = 1.3822 BTC [-] [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4700 @ 0.00090614 = 4.2589 BTC [-] [03:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 10 @ 0.074 = 0.74 BTC [+] [03:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.1049 = 1.5735 BTC [-] [03:15]
Diablo-D3 I should change the name of DMC [03:17]
MoneyIsD_ Is D for default or dead? ;) [03:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.10388 = 0.5194 BTC [+] [03:18]
Diablo-D3 hurr [03:18]
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MoneyIsD_ It got quiet in here... everyone off hacking mircea_popescu 's site? [03:21]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] [03:21]
mircea_popescu lolz [03:22]
mircea_popescu it's not dead yet! [03:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-] [03:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.6301 = 1.2602 BTC [-] [03:29]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.99999992 BTC [+] [03:30]
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teek wow i was busy today and wasn't following anythign really [03:43]
teek and there is like 20+ pages of BDT / JRO / blah blah blah crap [03:43]
teek holy [03:43]
teek :P [03:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 4 @ 0.50969 = 2.0388 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 8 @ 0.50979 = 4.0783 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 8 @ 0.5099 = 4.0792 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 8 @ 0.51 = 4.08 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 3 @ 0.5149 = 1.5447 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 5 @ 0.515 = 2.575 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 6 @ 0.515 = 3.09 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.518 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 2 @ 0.518 = 1.036 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 3 @ 0.518 = 1.554 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 4 @ 0.519 = 2.076 BTC [+] [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 8 @ 0.52 = 4.16 BTC [+] [03:44]
mircea_popescu teek must read it ALL [03:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 7 @ 1.054 = 7.378 BTC [+] [03:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00037686 = 2.2988 BTC [-] [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20260 @ 0.00037829 = 7.6642 BTC [+] [03:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9999 BTC [+] [03:48]
teek yeah.. i think im gonna have too [03:49]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.105 = 0.945 BTC [+] [03:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+] [03:53]
mircea_popescu http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/2012/08/imf-working-paper-offers-supports-full-reserve-banking/ [03:55]
mircea_popescu whoa the imf is competing with btc nao [03:55]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.105 = 4.305 BTC [+] [03:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10387 BTC [-] [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.0003965 = 11.6175 BTC [+] [04:06]
smickles if bitcoin's impact on history is it knocked the world into using full reserve banking. i'd say net gain [04:07]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: what just happened to the data on http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P130T ? [04:10]
copumpkin there was a lot more stuff on it a minute ago [04:10]
copumpkin oh, it's back [04:10]
mircea_popescu mmm what data you mean ? [04:11]
mircea_popescu buys/sells well sometimes the bot's orders expire before it notices. [04:11]
smickles would that be the amount of time it take for the bot to run the calculation? [04:12]
mircea_popescu nah [04:12]
smickles that could be an interesting side-channel attack [04:12]
mircea_popescu how do you see it ? [04:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.399899 BTC [+] [04:13]
smickles well, (just off hand) you are prolly using a modified BS or the binomial method to value the options. the side channel attack could use an assumption of what sort of hardware you have + the amount of time it taks for the bot to do it's calc + the method used to calc value and deduce the unknown values you use in valuing your options, then take advantage [04:15]
smickles that is, if the attacker knew you were valuing incorrectly anyway [04:15]
smickles they could find the ideal way to take advantage of the misvaluation [04:16]
mircea_popescu you understand the webserver is just relaying the actual trade db tho [04:16]
smickles however, your bot's spreads are huge [04:16]
smickles so it's probably a moot point [04:16]
smickles yeah, if the trade expires - no trade in the db if the bot hasn't calcd its desired trade yet, right? [04:17]
mircea_popescu yea but what i mean the dt between no bid being offered and bid popping on the webserver [04:18]
mircea_popescu is not too close to the dt' between same in trade db, so your attack avenue doesn't really work [04:19]
mircea_popescu seems more like a (pretty strong) random number generator than anything. [04:19]
smickles well maybe that's why i'm not a comp sci phd [04:19]
mircea_popescu it'd pretty much measure entropy i think. [04:19]
smickles those sorts of attacks are high level academic stuffs [04:20]
mircea_popescu well not so much. [04:20]
mircea_popescu for instance, a new way to steal cards consists of using a laser to measure temperature right after owner used the card [04:20]
mircea_popescu apparently they can get the key sequence [04:20]
smickles that's be a nifty aparatus to set up, and no one notice it [04:21]
smickles huh, what's that thing fastened above the atm? [04:22]
smickles anyway, what i meant is that i read about using computation time sidechanel attacks in relation to cracking some crypto [04:23]
mircea_popescu lasers work over a good distance. [04:23]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/rmd6Z.png jesus god look at that. [04:23]
smickles uh? [04:24]
smickles ime? [04:24]
mircea_popescu Also Bitcoinica was losing money because its hedging algorithm was too simple, and during the last few months the site had negative profit. [04:24]
smickles dff? [04:24]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93319.msg1038189#msg1038189 old taaki post [04:24]
mircea_popescu it's a sidemeasure of technical volatility. [04:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27600 @ 0.0003965 = 10.9434 BTC [+] [04:28]
smickles http://bitcoinmedia.com/uploads/2012/05/moving-price-diff.png [04:28]
smickles that's a nicer version of it [04:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-] [04:30]
mircea_popescu pretty meaningless tho. [04:30]
sgornick_ mircea_popescu: Couple of questions for you, got a minute? [04:32]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74216.msg1105596#msg1105596 s²cm's financial report [04:33]
mircea_popescu shoot! [04:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.51408 = 1.5422 BTC [+] [04:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 4 @ 0.51418 = 2.0567 BTC [+] [04:33]
sgornick_ Does the symbole change each month for the options? [04:34]
sgornick_ > "All options expire on the last minute of the last Friday of their month (UTC times)." [04:34]
smickles Azelphur: [04:34]
mircea_popescu sgornick_ in general the symbols stay the same. due to the explosion of btc i retired the halfdollar symbols and added 11 through 20 dollars instead. i have the ability to do this as needed. [04:34]
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mircea_popescu but barring significant moves of price they just remain the same. [04:35]
smickles mircea_popescu: you know, the 20 doesn't have a delta > 0.999 [04:35]
mircea_popescu smickles calls you mean ? [04:35]
sgornick_ Well, I mean does my holdings of T become holdings of N on the last Friday of the month? [04:35]
mircea_popescu sgornick_ indeed they do, yes. [04:35]
mircea_popescu eh [04:36]
smickles mircea_popescu: yea [04:36]
mircea_popescu N becomes T, not the other way around [04:36]
sgornick_ Is that how other options systems work? [04:36]
mircea_popescu O.BTCUSD.C200T 0.028 / 0.052. why 0.99 lol [04:36]
mircea_popescu sgornick_ well other option systems might spell out the month in the options name, or use fixed month letters [04:37]
mircea_popescu go A B C D E for may etc. [04:37]
mircea_popescu some systems use a sort of technique kinda akin to url shortening too. [04:37]
smickles mircea_popescu: well, shouldn't the highest available call have a delta of (practically) 1? [04:37]
sgornick_ Ok, that's what I though. [04:37]
mircea_popescu smickles not unless it's infinity. [04:37]
sgornick_ > N becomes T, not the other way around <--- Ya, dyslexic. [04:37]
smickles google options are GOOG120818C00465000 [04:38]
mircea_popescu yeah [04:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.511109 = 1.5333 BTC [-] [04:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 4 @ 0.511009 = 2.044 BTC [-] [04:38]
mircea_popescu seems a tad confusing. i dunno, maybe i made a bad choice but it seemed to me more comfortable / intuitive esp for beginners. [04:38]
mircea_popescu i can change them any time so it's not such a big deal either way i don't think. [04:38]
sgornick_ So when O.BTCUSD.C140T shows n/a for Last means not a single $14 CALL option was bought? Seems unlikely nobody wanted to. [04:39]
copumpkin lol mircea_popescu [04:39]
copumpkin you take user-unfriendly to the next level in your UI :P [04:39]
copumpkin "Insufficient BTC." [04:39]
copumpkin I know you're calculating the required amount to show me that message [04:39]
mircea_popescu sgornick_ well... unlikely or not... it's the case. [04:39]
copumpkin show me the required amount dammit :P [04:39]
mircea_popescu copumpkin i beg your pardon, one second :D [04:39]
copumpkin lol [04:39]
copumpkin :) [04:40]
mircea_popescu copumpkin try nao. [04:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 23 @ 0.1529 = 3.5167 BTC [-] [04:41]
copumpkin actually interacting with gpg isn't so bad, btw, if you just pipe commands together [04:41]
smickles C200T best bid: 0.00187194 est value: 0.01503234 delta: 0.11572602 gamma: 0.04906771 put value: 0.51409795 put delta: -0.88427398 [04:41]
mircea_popescu http://i.pgu.me/UDxEofcC_original.jpg does anyone actually believe this woman should be making money by whoring her misshapen hulk ?! [04:41]
copumpkin Insufficient funds. You need at least 1101361573.37BTC to cover these. [04:41]
copumpkin hmm! [04:41]
mircea_popescu copumpkin this is what moajhahaha 1 sec [04:42]
smickles lol [04:42]
copumpkin also, can we chain commands? [04:42]
mircea_popescu try agaion lol. and no chained commands yet,. [04:42]
mircea_popescu it will come tho. [04:42]
smickles so the delta on P200T is -0.88~ [04:43]
smickles (based on the current bids on the calls) [04:43]
mircea_popescu copumpkin> actually interacting with gpg isn't so bad, btw, if you just pipe commands together <<< most people find it's quite painless, esp if they have pympex. its one of those cases where the vixen looks sullen but she's quite charming once you get to know her. [04:43]
mircea_popescu smickles how much'd you expect it ? [04:43]
dub that is some itti bitti titties [04:44]
mircea_popescu i think i have tits comparable. [04:44]
mircea_popescu esp if i lift something [04:44]
smickles mircea_popescu: well, i think that the P200T delta is fair, but the fact that it's not -0.999 or lower would seem to imply market demand for options striking higher [04:45]
dub I'm dolly parton next to taht [04:45]
mircea_popescu smickles delta is not a reflection of mkt demand unless the prices you use are issued by the mkt [04:45]
mircea_popescu i can't use my own bot to decide what the market says now can i. [04:45]
mircea_popescu but anyway, i can only change symbols on month ends and if you recall back on july 28 it didn't look so sure we'd hit 13. it was more like 9.x [04:46]
smickles mircea_popescu: i ignore your bot in my calculation [04:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-] [04:46]
mircea_popescu i was considering getting maybe up to 30 strikes next month. esp if we keep climbing or at least hold [04:46]
mircea_popescu sgornick_ that satisfies you or did you have more ? [04:47]
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smickles mircea_popescu: i'd like that, right now you don't offer a deep in the money put [04:47]
mircea_popescu 20 is not dim ?! [04:47]
smickles not technically at a delta of -0.88 [04:47]
mircea_popescu what are you, a pearl digger ? [04:48]
smickles dim is supposed to be -0.999 or something like that [04:48]
dub you can dig for pearls? [04:48]
smickles maybe a handful more nines [04:48]
mircea_popescu well how do you call them, pearl holdbreathers ? [04:48]
dub divers [04:48]
mircea_popescu smickles while it's true that 0.9x is dim, i don't think 0.9x is a requirement. pretty much 2-3 strikes away from atm is dim afaic. [04:49]
mircea_popescu dub fine fine :p [04:49]
smickles in a less volitile market 3 strikes away has a delta of 0.9x [04:49]
mircea_popescu this is also true [04:50]
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smickles mpex users are implying a volitility > 153% [04:50]
smickles with positions set which essentially equiate to a 4x leveraged lon positon [04:51]
mircea_popescu volatile you know [04:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 73 @ 0.105 = 7.665 BTC [+] [04:51]
mircea_popescu and not all the trade volume is necessarily an open long position. [04:52]
smickles english is flawed anyway [04:52]
mircea_popescu but yes i am pretty loaded with people's long bets. [04:52]
smickles yeah, i suppose i assume put-call pairity or w/e [04:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49200 @ 0.00039634 = 19.4999 BTC [-] [04:54]
smickles i'm not going to work on improving my algo on that stuffs until i get smex done [04:54]
mircea_popescu smex hahaha [04:55]
smickles ǒ [04:56]
mircea_popescu http://pastebin.com/8XKZaPK6 this is kinda funny to read [04:56]
smickles i mean © [04:56]
mircea_popescu i had no ideea zhou was so obsequious [04:56]
mircea_popescu smickles can you explain sc2m to me again ? [04:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.9999 = 1.9998 BTC [+] [05:00]
smickles mircea_popescu: zt came off that what to me when he was 'no longer working at bitcoinica, but doing stuff for them' for months [05:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 0.988 BTC [+] [05:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 0.9888 BTC [+] [05:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 0.98898 = 4.9449 BTC [+] [05:03]
smickles s²c, people bought non-equity shares, we placed the proceeds with various people who lend btc to people, we pay the received interest as dividends to the shareholders [05:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 0.989 = 2.967 BTC [+] [05:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 0.99 = 4.95 BTC [+] [05:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 1.0399 BTC [-] [05:03]
mircea_popescu so it's a sort of fund of banks ? [05:04]
smickles i suppose it it [05:04]
smickles *is [05:04]
smickles well, wouldn't a fund have equity stakes in the banks? [05:04]
* mircea_popescu makes note to revisit this if mpcd needs expanding in nov [05:04]
mircea_popescu could be a fund of bank bonds. [05:05]
smickles i kinda want s2 to issue a bond [05:05]
smickles so that we can raise the nav [05:05]
smickles either that, or raise the nav by issuing equity bearing shares which pay no dividend [05:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [-] [05:06]
smickles kinda like a strange preferred stock [05:06]
mircea_popescu why would anyone want shares w/o dividend [05:07]
mircea_popescu sounds to me like unpreferred lol [05:07]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/135.asp :) [05:07]
smickles people who want a say in the actions of s2, and [05:07]
smickles in the event of an unfavorable liquidation, they would be paid after the creditors, but before the non equity shares [05:08]
smickles but s2 doesn't have any creditors right now [05:08]
smickles so they'd be paid first [05:08]
mircea_popescu im not sure that'd be useful, just confuse ppl. [05:09]
smickles confuse ppl, raise funds, what's the difference j/k [05:09]
mircea_popescu lol [05:09]
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mircea_popescu i dunno, imo for bitcoin nonvoting divcarrying equity is way better than the other way around. [05:10]
mircea_popescu maybe its just me [05:10]
smickles well, right now they have nonvoting divcarrying, no equity [05:10]
mircea_popescu so basically... bonds [05:11]
dub bet is live [05:11]
mircea_popescu jesus we're making such a mess of finance. [05:11]
smickles it's not a bond tho [05:11]
mircea_popescu dub hey, i made it long enough for bet to come live :D [05:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00039634 = 4.4786 BTC [-] [05:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.0003965 = 15.2256 BTC [+] [05:11]
smickles there's nothing about returning the principal and no expiration [05:11]
mircea_popescu ikr. [05:12]
smickles heh, well, i wrote up that contract based on what splatster wanted to make [05:13]
smickles and then promised to do the accounting [05:13]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: "NOTE : You must have a key already registered to deposit. DO NOT send money if your key is not registered. (You can check if it is with STAT)." [05:14]
copumpkin that's safe for me, right? [05:14]
mircea_popescu if you can see a stat it's safe for you. [05:14]
copumpkin what will stat tell me? I ran it and it gave me a bunch of info [05:15]
mircea_popescu the fact that it gives you info proves you have a key registered. [05:15]
smickles mircea_popescu: it think it may be benificial to have that nondiv equity share, consider if the shareholders wanted to fire an officer, right now, the only way they can do that is by dissolving the whole operation [05:15]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: cool [05:15]
mircea_popescu smickles trust me, you're just opening the door to forum drama. [05:15]
mircea_popescu if they fire either one of you that operation is canned anyway. [05:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26122 @ 0.0003965 = 10.3574 BTC [+] [05:17]
smickles so then a proper bond would be the way to go [05:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 23 @ 0.10387 = 2.389 BTC [-] [05:17]
mircea_popescu maybe, tho honestly, if you're offering bank bonds it'd make more sense to just give up all pretense and tranche them in a cdo [05:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 17 @ 0.10388 = 1.766 BTC [+] [05:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19090 @ 0.00039164 = 7.4764 BTC [-] [05:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6689 @ 0.00038888 = 2.6012 BTC [-] [05:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37021 @ 0.00037839 = 14.0084 BTC [-] [05:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10388 = 0.3116 BTC [+] [05:18]
smickles 1btc face X% interest paid in cupon installments, with the face being bought back at Y date [05:18]
smickles cupon? [05:19]
smickles bah [05:19]
smickles bought back? [05:20]
smickles bah [05:20]
smickles i remember the function, but not the label [05:20]
smickles the face would be paid, not bought back [05:21]
smickles anyone interested in underwriting that? [05:22]
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mircea_popescu mmm [05:26]
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mircea_popescu well as i said, i'd consider it for new mpcd if they seem worth doing in nov. [05:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9979 BTC [-] [05:28]
smickles mircea_popescu: what sort of cupor would you want us to pay [05:30]
mircea_popescu do you know how to gauss-copula evaluate ? [05:31]
smickles *coupon [05:31]
* Diablo-D3 snickers [05:31]
smickles woa wtf [05:32]
smickles that's a little beyond me right now [05:33]
mircea_popescu im listening to rebel girl from bikini kill [05:33]
mircea_popescu aren't i old school. [05:33]
mircea_popescu smickles : well if you feel like learning wizardry you can futz with that stuff. [05:33]
Diablo-D3 could be worse [05:33]
mircea_popescu otherwise, how many tranches do you plan ? [05:33]
Diablo-D3 it could be atari teenage riot - revolution action [05:33]
mircea_popescu the video is particularly bad. [05:33]
smickles lol [05:34]
smickles "Some believe the methodology of applying the Gaussian copula to credit derivatives to be one of the reasons behind the global financial crisis of 2008–2009." [05:34]
mircea_popescu well yes for sure. [05:34]
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mircea_popescu smickles : that thing is a mathematical approach to evaluating the likeliness of joint default in similar assets. [05:34]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: your protocol seems vulnerable to replays [05:35]
mircea_popescu some people started using it as a definitive model of assesing risk, and as a result fucked up pretty bad. [05:35]
mircea_popescu copumpkin have you tried one ? [05:35]
copumpkin nope [05:35]
copumpkin is it not? [05:35]
mircea_popescu do try [05:35]
copumpkin oh okay [05:35]
mircea_popescu if you are really concerned about it you can add all pipes and junk afterwards. [05:36]
copumpkin hah it's okay [05:36]
copumpkin I'm not [05:36]
mircea_popescu BUY|{MPSIC}|{quantity}|{price}|{expiry}|dfgjdfklgj [05:36]
mircea_popescu tho i don't see why it'd be necessary. [05:36]
copumpkin you could fuck with someone's account [05:37]
copumpkin and buy/sell shit they didn't want to buy/sell [05:37]
mircea_popescu no man. i understand what replaysare. [05:37]
mircea_popescu im just saying, they aren;'t allowed by the system. [05:37]
smickles copumpkin: you mean someone sniffs the transmission of your 'buy|x|Y|z' and sends it again? [05:37]
copumpkin cool :) [05:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [05:37]
copumpkin smickles: well, it's encrypted [05:37]
copumpkin but yeah [05:38]
mircea_popescu man in the middle could just get the encrypted string and send it again [05:38]
smickles if they are just trying to f with you, i don't see why it being encrypted would matter [05:38]
mircea_popescu it'd do him no good, seeing as he can't even be sure whose account he's fucking necessarily. [05:38]
mircea_popescu but it might cause trouble for the holder. [05:38]
copumpkin that's what I meant [05:38]
copumpkin it'd just be to fuck with everyone [05:38]
mircea_popescu of course, mpex is the only place where this actually isn't possible [05:39]
smickles so does copumpkin get teh 1.337 btc? [05:39]
mircea_popescu otherwise everyone including mtgox is actually vulnerable to this. [05:39]
mircea_popescu why ? [05:40]
smickles because i'm tired, and wrong, i guess [05:40]
mircea_popescu lol [05:40]
smickles wait a sec [05:40]
smickles iirc, i've send duplicate STATs to mpex [05:41]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: did you get my deposit? :) [05:41]
smickles it told me to stfu and do it properly [05:41]
mircea_popescu copumpkin ;) didja check ? [05:41]
mircea_popescu smickles well yes. [05:41]
copumpkin so much work!! [05:41]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 0.99 = 4.95 BTC [+] [05:42]
smickles mircea_popescu: so mpex isn't vernerable to that 'fuck with em' attack :D [05:42]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: yay [05:42]
mircea_popescu well no. [05:42]
mircea_popescu that's what i said, afaik pretty much the only place that isn't. [05:42]
mircea_popescu course, it's a lot more difficult to do for traditional sites esp over https. [05:43]
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copumpkin well, https is designed to stop it [05:43]
mircea_popescu at least in theory yea. [05:43]
mircea_popescu somebody had a session stolen on glbse recently tho, iirc. [05:43]
mircea_popescu there are limits. [05:43]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1178 = 1.767 BTC [-] [05:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1179 BTC [+] [05:48]
assbot [MPEX] [O.HASH.P10TH] 99272 @ 0.02744461 = 2724.4813 BTC [-] [05:48]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 10 @ 0.07598909 = 0.7599 BTC [-] [05:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1178 = 1.767 BTC [-] [05:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 7 @ 0.1179 = 0.8253 BTC [+] [05:49]
mircea_popescu anyway, smickles that's the drawbacK : people could legitimately repeat their stats [05:49]
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mircea_popescu it just doesn't seem worth the risk tho, sooner or later some asshat is gonna use it to wreak havoc [05:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.02799999 = 2.056 BTC [-] [05:50]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: dammit! [05:51]
copumpkin forgot a decimal and now you own my options :P for nothing at all [05:52]
mircea_popescu umm [05:52]
mircea_popescu what ?! [05:52]
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copumpkin lol [05:52]
copumpkin Your transactions since 1 hour before your last STAT : [05:52]
copumpkin On Fri, 17 Aug 12 02:48:31 +0000 O.BTCUSD.P130T - 10 sold @0.07598909BTC, total yield 0.75837111BTC [05:52]
copumpkin accidentally sold them for 0.0075 [05:52]
copumpkin lol [05:52]
mircea_popescu o and you hit the bot's bid huh [05:52]
copumpkin yup :P [05:52]
mircea_popescu well ty do come again [05:53]
copumpkin lol [05:53]
copumpkin will do :) [05:53]
mircea_popescu 0.07596438 nao [05:53]
mircea_popescu so nom. [05:53]
mircea_popescu but wait. if the bot sells for .11... what was the ideea charging .75 per ?! [05:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 6 @ 0.51 = 3.06 BTC [+] [05:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37 @ 0.0003965 = 0.0147 BTC [+] [05:56]
smickles if people legitimately repeat their stat, wouldn't the pg encryption or signing produce difference between the 2 stats [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.00037839 = 6.3948 BTC [-] [05:57]
smickles yeah, they do [05:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.9888 BTC [+] [05:57]
smickles and if i double send an idendical stat to mpex, from what i remember, it rejects the second [05:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.998 = 1.996 BTC [+] [05:58]
mircea_popescu it does reject the 2nd. what i meant was ppl just save the pgp'd stat and just keep piping that. arguably more comfortable. [05:58]
mircea_popescu not rly tho [05:58]
mircea_popescu http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=Tihan+Seale&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&ved=0CFcQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwd.uscourts.gov%2Fopinions%2Fpdfs%2F2003-2005%2F05-C-368-C-11-04-05.PDF&ei=nbItUImLFYek4AS-soCQBQ&usg=AFQjCNHPapd-v-AyBwkLrAbRCkdL93SwFg [05:59]
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mircea_popescu would you say this is tihan seale of bitcoinica in thst lawsuit ? [05:59]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 9 @ 0.0911313 = 0.8202 BTC [-] [06:00]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.99021 = 3.9608 BTC [-] [06:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 6 @ 0.99 = 5.94 BTC [-] [06:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-] [06:07]
mircea_popescu Speaking of that, Zhou I wanted your thoughts on the financial situation. [06:07]
mircea_popescu As you know, Bitcoinica went from cranking out 6-figure profit one month to [06:07]
mircea_popescu a flatline the next. I covered most of the deficit from the hack on the [06:07]
mircea_popescu assumption Bitcoinica profits would quickly fill in the rest. What's [06:07]
mircea_popescu happened instead is a consistent equity leak that has remained unresolved [06:07]
mircea_popescu for two months. We've gone from being short 40k to now being short 88k. [06:07]
mircea_popescu ohohoh. [06:07]
BTC-Mining the judgement on that thing is stupid... [06:08]
mircea_popescu its him tho isnt it. [06:09]
BTC-Mining not sure, but nice find [06:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 25 @ 0.15 = 3.75 BTC [-] [06:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.9825 = 13.755 BTC [-] [06:10]
* smickles begins work on displaying mpex listing [06:10]
smickles *listings [06:10]
dub Speaking of that, Zhou please repeatedly stab your tiny asian dick into my waiting anus [06:13]
mircea_popescu eh ?! [06:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.8901 = 3.5604 BTC [-] [06:13]
dub thats a rough translation [06:14]
smickles i've writen a fun bit of code which converts Ts and Ns into the appropriate dates which even accounts for the fact that Ts after the last friday actually referr to next month's last friday [06:14]
Chaaang-Noi lol [06:14]
mircea_popescu not so hard to do [06:15]
mircea_popescu are you using the new vwap ? [06:15]
mircea_popescu 2 points (60% like it) 6 up votes 4 down votes [06:16]
mircea_popescu omg why the hate! [06:16]
smickles i'm proud that I wrote it as a one-liner :D [06:16]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: at least I didn't get screwed too badly :) [06:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.8999 = 4.4995 BTC [+] [06:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 15 @ 0.9 = 13.5 BTC [+] [06:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 6 @ 0.99991 = 5.9995 BTC [+] [06:16]
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smickles what's volsh and volsa? [06:17]
mircea_popescu copumpkin "repeatedly stab your tiny asian dick into my waiting anus" ? [06:17]
copumpkin lol [06:17]
mircea_popescu smickles a little bonbon : volume in shares, volume in satoshi [06:17]
smickles i was hoping it was that [06:18]
mircea_popescu pretty cool huh [06:18]
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smickles yeah, i like all the new data, but i still haven't updated the relavent parts of my 'opteron' program [06:18]
smickles the parts of it i use most often only need the market depth data [06:20]
smickles and, afaik, you haven't messed w/that since i wrote it [06:20]
mircea_popescu indeed not. [06:21]
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mircea_popescu Total agree bets: 0.00 [06:21]
mircea_popescu Total disagree bets: 1.00 [06:21]
mircea_popescu o wow. srsly ?! [06:21]
Ignatius-otc yeah...why would anyone put in the effort for 1.337 btc? [06:24]
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mircea_popescu you know, donald knuth only paid 256 cents. [06:25]
mircea_popescu iirc. [06:25]
mircea_popescu tons of people went hogwild over that shitty bitdaytrade site and there was no money there either. [06:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.99991 BTC [+] [06:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [MINING] 20 @ 0.8 = 16 BTC [+] [06:30]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 1.069 = 3.207 BTC [+] [06:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.399899 BTC [+] [06:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 2 @ 0.1179 = 0.2358 BTC [+] [06:39]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [15:22]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin assets and securities discussion. || Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com || MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex || CST https://cryptostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [15:22]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Aug 14 22:29:27 2012 [15:22]
mircea_popescu omg mpex is still online how can this be!? [15:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.985 = 2.955 BTC [-] [15:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 34 @ 0.975 = 33.15 BTC [-] [15:24]
mircea_popescu sgornick i didn't even know bitbin existed! [15:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 4 @ 0.149 = 0.596 BTC [-] [15:29]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170N] 2 @ 0.45523861 = 0.9105 BTC [-] [15:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 15 @ 0.15 = 2.25 BTC [+] [15:30]
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rg wow [15:45]
rg someones about to make a lot of money on bitvps [15:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.42 BTC [+] [15:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.42979 = 4.2894 BTC [+] [15:46]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5900 @ 0.00090127 = 5.3175 BTC [-] [15:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.09999999 = 0.2 BTC [-] [15:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09999999 BTC [-] [15:49]
rg anyone oticing anything weird on mpex right now? [15:54]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.849 BTC [-] [16:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.1389 = 0.2778 BTC [-] [16:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 1.069 = 4.276 BTC [+] [16:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1.42988999 = 5.7196 BTC [+] [16:14]
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mircea_popescu awww assbot died ? [17:48]
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DeaDTerra hm I was thinking of streaming some gameing on Saturday, and I was thinking of maybe doing some charity event. Is there any good BTC charities you can donate to? [17:58]
DeaDTerra like a Bitcoin development charity or something? [17:59]
usagi there are two charity funds but who knows [17:59]
usagi Maybe get in contact with some of the bitcoin client devs [17:59]
usagi I'm currently supporting development of bitcoind, you could donate to me :p [17:59]
mircea_popescu ya, give it to nano :[ [17:59]
mircea_popescu ;p* [18:00]
usagi Actually yeah you should use it to support the development of the client [18:00]
usagi Who is nano [18:00]
DeaDTerra I think I saw some kind of charity thing for convincing companies to accept Bitcoin [18:00]
DeaDTerra Yea supporting a client sounds good [18:00]
copumpkin usagi: nanotube, the ultimate bitcoiner? [18:02]
usagi Not sure who that is, i live in a bubble [18:04]
copumpkin he is the beginning and the end [18:04]
copumpkin the alpha and the omega [18:04]
copumpkin of all that is bitcoin on IRC [18:04]
copumpkin the omnipresent [18:05]
copumpkin omniscient [18:05]
copumpkin operator of all channels [18:05]
copumpkin the founder of gribble [18:05]
copumpkin and his father, too [18:05]
DeaDTerra I would rather support Bitcoin as a whole and not only the IRC channels [18:05]
copumpkin nanotube is.... [18:05]
copumpkin SATOSHI [18:05]
Chaaang-Noi lol [18:06]
mircea_popescu nanotube isn't satoshi [18:10]
mircea_popescu bitscalper is satoshi. [18:10]
copumpkin omgshit [18:10]
mircea_popescu ahahah wouldn't that be the end all tho ? [18:10]
mircea_popescu satoshi came back as a retarded guy with an italian accent. [18:11]
BTC-Mining Who care who he his, the system is solid [18:16]
mircea_popescu shall i quote ? [18:20]
mircea_popescu yes, i guess i must! [18:20]
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mircea_popescu awww well i can;t find it now [18:21]
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EskimoBob !pl DMC 1@0.48 07.30.2012 [18:35]
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mircea_popescu assbot is ded. [18:37]
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EskimoBob that sucks ass... [18:47]
EskimoBob bot [18:47]
mircea_popescu lol [18:48]
mircea_popescu omfg almost 15 ?! [18:49]
EskimoBob this is unreal [18:49]
EskimoBob I did not expect that so fast. [18:49]
DeaDTerra It's going to pop [18:50]
DeaDTerra we must have a strong reversal soon, it has gone to fast and to long without a reversal [18:50]
mircea_popescu maybe so. [18:51]
EskimoBob DeaDTerra: this is BTC. There is no logic in the market, only fear and greed [18:51]
mircea_popescu also maybe so [18:51]
EskimoBob and greed is winning at the moment [18:51]
mircea_popescu truth be told the us banking system is going to hell wholesale. [18:52]
mircea_popescu wouldn't surprise me if we end up with $1bn dumped in. [18:52]
copumpkin I'd be pretty surprised :P [18:52]
EskimoBob actually, all market now days are just pure greed and fear. There is very little to do with real demand [18:52]
mircea_popescu that's because we live in the end of a systgem [18:53]
EskimoBob ? [18:53]
mircea_popescu bretton woods. it's dead. [18:55]
EskimoBob any ideas how long it will takes to download about 8855 blocks by BTC client (about 57 days worth of blocks) [18:55]
mircea_popescu depends on your connection. a coupla hours ? [18:55]
EskimoBob damn [18:58]
EskimoBob 35 sec for 2 ... this is going to take forever [18:59]
EskimoBob and I have 10MB connection :) [19:00]
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EskimoBob 8776 [19:05]
mircea_popescu so 80 in 10 minutes. >100 minutes, bout couple hours. i win :D [19:06]
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Chaaang-Noi 15? [19:13]
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mircea_popescu In a harbinger of what may be coming our way in the Fall of 2012, billionaire financier George Soros has sold all of his equity positions in major financial stocks according to a 13-F report filed with the SEC for the quarter ending June 30, 2012. [19:14]
mircea_popescu this is what im talking about. the us banking sector is going away. [19:14]
farfi couldnt be sooner [19:15]
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EskimoBob 8683 [19:16]
mircea_popescu anyway. soros put 130 mn into gold at the same time. [19:16]
mircea_popescu i imagine 1% of that might have gone into btc, too. [19:16]
mircea_popescu and it's how it will unwind, banks go in the pink sheets while the proceeds buy gold and a fraction thereof buys btc. [19:17]
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EskimoBob 1.8 h to go [19:18]
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EskimoBob "banks go in the pink sheets" ? pink sheet used to mean OTC quote list [19:21]
EskimoBob what do you mean by that? [19:21]
mircea_popescu i mean exactly that. [19:21]
mircea_popescu jpm struggling to keep it's shares at 10 cents [19:22]
EskimoBob penny stock is not necessarily a OTC stock [19:24]
mircea_popescu no, not necessarily. [19:24]
EskimoBob JPM in pink sheets - this will be a funny day [19:24]
EskimoBob fucking money grabbing jew bankers and their fkn minions [19:25]
mircea_popescu i don't see how it can be avoided. us banks currently have no legitimate way to turn a profit. [19:25]
EskimoBob dead banker is a good bajnker [19:25]
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mircea_popescu they're merely a conduit for governmental charity, and as such the value of one share is more or less the value of one food stamp. [19:25]
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EskimoBob fuck banks and all those assholes who run them [19:25]
mircea_popescu aww im one of them/ [19:26]
mircea_popescu y u hate bankers. [19:26]
EskimoBob no idea why is this racket even called banking any more. [19:26]
mircea_popescu a, now that's a different story. we agree on that. [19:26]
EskimoBob you are a banker? [19:27]
EskimoBob You know that bank tellers are not "bankers" per se? [19:27]
mircea_popescu well i don't run a bank nor am i jewish, but i'm a finance type. [19:27]
mircea_popescu and i don't think there's something wrong with banking. i think the problem is us banks aren't doing any banking. [19:28]
DeaDTerra your not jewish? I thought you were xD [19:28]
mircea_popescu haha most people do, but i'm not. [19:28]
EskimoBob I used to work in finance for long time. Got bored and left. Never looked back [19:29]
EskimoBob what a waste of life it is. [19:29]
mircea_popescu imo it's the good kind of boring. [19:29]
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EskimoBob greed driven shit bags everywhere. The real loser land. Empty and useless people. [19:30]
mircea_popescu greed is a good thing. [19:30]
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DeaDTerra It depends [19:30]
DeaDTerra greed can be good if you use it in the correct way [19:31]
mircea_popescu well yea. greed i suppose would be the vice of excessive appetite [19:31]
EskimoBob only if you are loser and a shitbag, then yes, because this is all you can come up with [19:31]
mircea_popescu there's no life worth that name w/o appetite. [19:31]
EskimoBob greed is never good [19:31]
EskimoBob you are confusing greed with something else [19:32]
EskimoBob "Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort" [19:32]
DeaDTerra Maybe I should say ambition instead [19:33]
EskimoBob yes, this is something else [19:33]
DeaDTerra oaky yea, I guess what I mean is more ambition, some kind of drive to perform and do well, to do something good. [19:33]
mircea_popescu who's to say waht is "inordinate" ? [19:33]
mircea_popescu i don't like the stench of socialism wafting from that "dictates of basic" [19:33]
mircea_popescu fuck "basic". [19:34]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: you have no idea wtf socialism is and what it actually means [19:34]
EskimoBob so stop using it ;) [19:34]
mircea_popescu socialism is the ideea that the group will solve the problems of the individual. [19:34]
mircea_popescu by means of, for instance in thiscase, deciding what "too much" is. [19:34]
EskimoBob and for fuck sake, you are a greek so wtf do you even know about finance ... LOL [19:35]
mircea_popescu ugh ? how am i a greek ? [19:35]
EskimoBob greek banker who wants to be a jew ... my gods, this IS the end of the world as we know it [19:36]
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mircea_popescu ... [19:36]
mircea_popescu are you stereotyping ? [19:36]
DeaDTerra lol someone took the comment about socialism very personal xD [19:36]
EskimoBob socialism has nothing to do with it [19:36]
mircea_popescu well what does being greek have to do with anything ? [19:36]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: I thought you are Greek [19:36]
mircea_popescu well i thought you were an eskimo so we're even. [19:37]
EskimoBob greeks are morons, when it comes to finance [19:37]
DeaDTerra hahahahh xD [19:37]
mircea_popescu dude. all greek people can't be morons by virtue of being greeks [19:37]
mircea_popescu it ain't how this works. [19:37]
EskimoBob really? [19:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [19:37]
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DeaDTerra that's pretty rasist [19:40]
EskimoBob Sorry, you must be form Romania or something like taht [19:41]
mircea_popescu are those morons too ? [19:41]
EskimoBob even worst bankers. That's for sure :) [19:41]
DeaDTerra Sweden but yea keep going on your rasist spree [19:41]
mircea_popescu well EskimoBob... not everyone can be an eskimo you see. people are born in random places it seems. [19:42]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: but your weather is better [19:43]
copumpkin omg typography [19:43]
* copumpkin loves typography [19:43]
EskimoBob no shit? [19:44]
copumpkin I'd hire mircea_popescu if he didn't bring naked women into work on leashes [19:44]
EskimoBob people who are involved in porn, deserve no respect what so ever. You know they are scammers [19:45]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob for curiosity, do you recognize the people in http://www.ziuaveche.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/biderberg_cfr_alaturi-guvernatorul-bnr.jpg ? [19:45]
mircea_popescu copumpkin well they wouldn't have to be naked... [19:45]
EskimoBob I can not visit .ro sites :( [19:45]
copumpkin oh wait, I'm a brontosaurus [19:45]
mircea_popescu your internet a little borked ? [19:45]
copumpkin and mircea_popescu is prejudiced against us [19:45]
mircea_popescu I am prejudiced nao ?! [19:46]
DeaDTerra Coinbase looks pretty neat though I am worried about security like with most online wallets :8 [19:46]
DeaDTerra https://coinbase.com?r=502e73bb97a5380002008450 [19:46]
copumpkin you said you don't do brontosaurus [19:46]
mircea_popescu well i don't do guys, either [19:46]
mircea_popescu does that mean im prejudiced against men ?! [19:46]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: is this porn business true? [19:47]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: yeah [19:47]
DeaDTerra why does people involved in porn not deserve respect xD I am confused :P [19:47]
copumpkin EskimoBob: I am a hardcore pornographer [19:47]
copumpkin I have thousands of videos [19:47]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob yes, i made lots of money from porn in the good old days. [19:47]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: you acted or directed? [19:48]
copumpkin or both? [19:48]
mircea_popescu copumpkin mostly produced. [19:48]
mircea_popescu i never acted. i guess i directed a coupla times maybe ? i dun recall. [19:48]
EskimoBob sorry dude, in this case you are a loser for life and deserve no attention at all. What a fucking scumbag. [19:48]
copumpkin lol @ EskimoBob [19:48]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob that's ok. you are on the internet nao. you meet people here that don't conform to your expectations. [19:49]
mircea_popescu copumpkin i was never credited at any rate. [19:49]
copumpkin aww [19:49]
EskimoBob question is, how soon will this romanian scumbag run with your BTC? [19:51]
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copumpkin lol [19:51]
copumpkin he doesn't have my btc [19:51]
mircea_popescu i don't ?! [19:51]
copumpkin omg [19:51]
copumpkin you do!!! [19:51]
EskimoBob nor mine and never will [19:51]
mircea_popescu how long you been around EskimoBob ? [19:51]
copumpkin EskimoBob: did porn murder your kitten? [19:51]
mircea_popescu ;;getrating EskimoBob [19:52]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User eskimobob, rated since Sat Jun 4 09:35:57 2011. Cumulative rating 2, from 2 total ratings. Received ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=eskimobob [19:52]
mircea_popescu hey, about the same time. [19:52]
EskimoBob for a while [19:52]
mircea_popescu you wrote a haiku for btc ? [19:53]
mircea_popescu ok, anything up to here. A POET ?!?! FUCKING SCUMBAGS [19:53]
mircea_popescu you know poets can't be trusted. [19:53]
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copumpkin yeah, I HATE POETS [19:53]
copumpkin they're even worse than the philosophers [19:53]
mircea_popescu philosophers aren't so bad... [19:54]
EskimoBob I do not like pets [19:54]
mircea_popescu (for the record, i typed ph and typed tab waiting for irc to put the rest in!) [19:54]
EskimoBob you see mircea_popescu. Porn is a business for shit birds and you have to be one to run it or get involved in this [19:55]
mircea_popescu pecunia non olet, my dear northern friend. [19:56]
copumpkin EskimoBob: you keep insulting him, but you haven't really elaborated on your position [19:56]
copumpkin not justifying your position makes it harder to take it seriously [19:56]
EskimoBob copumpkin: I just did [19:56]
copumpkin where? [19:56]
EskimoBob few lines back [19:56]
copumpkin [12:54:20] I do not like pets [19:56]
copumpkin aha [19:56]
copumpkin I see now [19:57]
EskimoBob LOL, yes, that's the one [19:57]
copumpkin :) [19:57]
EskimoBob will btc hit 15 today? [19:58]
mircea_popescu if i say yes and it does will you hate 15 ? [19:58]
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mircea_popescu kakobreklaa assbot died halp. [20:00]
EskimoBob any news from nefario about the glbse upgrade? [20:01]
mircea_popescu is he adding porn to it ? [20:01]
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kakobreklaa yeah, sorry about that. [20:02]
kakobreklaa there was a post failure reboot [20:02]
kakobreklaa on the server [20:02]
mircea_popescu its frigging addictive that thing. [20:02]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: you managed to shit all over yourself. Enough said [20:03]
mircea_popescu aww [20:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00038835 = 6.7961 BTC [+] [20:04]
* kakobreklaa brought another solar power plant online today [20:06]
kakobreklaa a small one this time [20:06]
kakobreklaa but hey i installed more power than diablo :) [20:06]
mircea_popescu what W ? [20:06]
kakobreklaa this one' [20:07]
kakobreklaa small one, just under 100kw [20:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5019 @ 0.00038835 = 1.9491 BTC [+] [20:08]
mircea_popescu not so small hehe [20:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [20:10]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [20:10]
gribble Best bid: 15.18, Best ask: 15.18001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 15.18, 24 hour volume: 88074, 24 hour low: 13.2, 24 hour high: 15.4 [20:10]
kakobreklaa wtf [20:10]
mircea_popescu o wow 15 omg [20:10]
kakobreklaa i am kinda speechless [20:10]
mircea_popescu it just jumped [20:11]
mircea_popescu jesus god this is a keg of powder. [20:11]
mircea_popescu today meant +2 [20:11]
EskimoBob ;;ticker EUR [20:11]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). [20:11]
EskimoBob how do you get EUR rate out of this gribble ? [20:12]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker --last [20:12]
gribble 15.15 [20:12]
kakobreklaa ;;bc,convert eur [20:12]
gribble 1 BTC = 15.15 U.S. dollars = 12.2473727 Euros [20:12]
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nefario EskimoBob: I'm working on it [20:12]
nefario I'm due to see the new version of charts tomorrow [20:12]
EskimoBob nefario: Hola! On the update? Sweet. :) [20:13]
nefario which will be a shitload faster than current version [20:13]
kakobreklaa what about spitting dividend payments into twitter [20:13]
kakobreklaa that has been promissed a while ago :p [20:13]
nefario that comes after an end to BTC reserves [20:13]
EskimoBob div calendar will be a cool feature [20:13]
nefario which is what I'm working on [20:13]
nefario an iCal with divs? [20:13]
EskimoBob why not [20:13]
nefario hmmm, not actually a bad idea [20:14]
nefario GLBSE charts and public API will be made open source as well [20:14]
EskimoBob you can display ex-div dates on securities [20:14]
area ciuciu: Did you get my PM on the forum? I have nothing in my outbox and am currently wondering if I managed to not sent it [20:14]
nefario small changes, improvements etc that people want can be added easily then [20:15]
EskimoBob and do not forget to "paint" the issuers bid/ask in the order book [20:15]
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mod6 hai [20:15]
EskimoBob and logged in person too [20:15]
EskimoBob So one can hes own bid/ask in order book [20:16]
EskimoBob 7930... [20:16]
EskimoBob rrrr [20:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.39989 BTC [+] [20:18]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 60000 @ 0.001 = 60 BTC [20:18]
mircea_popescu hi mod6 [20:19]
* mod6 waves [20:20]
mircea_popescu sgornick is it me or that bitbin.net site doesn't actually exist ?! [20:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [20:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 10 @ 0.05050751 = 0.5051 BTC [-] [20:21]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [20:23]
gribble Best bid: 15.20001, Best ask: 15.325, Bid-ask spread: 0.12499, Last trade: 15.20001, 24 hour volume: 89312, 24 hour low: 13.2, 24 hour high: 15.4 [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33322 @ 0.00037661 = 12.5494 BTC [-] [20:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1149 BTC [+] [20:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8978 @ 0.00037358 = 3.354 BTC [-] [20:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41022 @ 0.00037825 = 15.5166 BTC [+] [20:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [20:30]
area Cheers [20:31]
area I wasn't worried too much about a delay, just wanted to make sure I'd requested them :-) [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7359 @ 0.00037825 = 2.7835 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10284 @ 0.00038985 = 4.0092 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19041 @ 0.00038089 = 7.2525 BTC [-] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27935 @ 0.00037661 = 10.5206 BTC [-] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7916 @ 0.00038985 = 3.0861 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00039192 = 1.6461 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0003928 = 0.3142 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10484 @ 0.0003965 = 4.1569 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00038516 = 4.3138 BTC [-] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0003965 = 9.2385 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.0003965 = 10.9038 BTC [+] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5387 @ 0.00037661 = 2.0288 BTC [-] [20:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 16 @ 0.115 = 1.84 BTC [-] [20:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00037144 = 0.796 BTC [-] [20:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5429 @ 0.00036815 = 1.9987 BTC [-] [20:33]
nanotube >_> [20:34]
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area ciuciu: Can I PM you? [20:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [20:40]
EskimoBob Do any of you have a DMC's holdings report available with update prices and divs? [20:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 50 @ 0.003801 = 0.1901 BTC [+] [20:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [20:51]
nefario ahahahaaaaaa [20:51]
nefario fuck you all bitches [20:51]
nefario JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [20:51]
mircea_popescu ?! [20:52]
nefario sorry [20:52]
nefario am happy [20:52]
EskimoBob !pl DMC 1@0.64 29-08-2012 [20:52]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [20:52]
nefario fucking FINALLY got something to work [20:52]
assbot DMC [1@0.64BTC] (since: 29-08-2012) paid: 0 BTC. Last price: 0.045 BTC. Capital gain: -0.595 BTC. Total: -0.595 BTC. (-93%) [20:52]
nefario that has been a right PIA [20:52]
mircea_popescu getting married ? [20:52]
nefario I've been married 10 years [20:52]
nefario so [20:52]
nefario no [20:52]
nefario some code [20:52]
mircea_popescu o. [20:52]
nefario worked on test server didn't work on production [20:53]
nefario why? [20:53]
nefario I have no fucking cluw [20:53]
nefario clue [20:53]
nefario after painstaking re-implentation on production [20:53]
nefario piece by peice [20:53]
nefario from whatI I knew worked [20:53]
nefario finally got it all working [20:53]
mircea_popescu well done! [20:53]
nefario will be rid of bitcoin reserves by Tuesday [20:54]
nefario followed by a shitonne of improvements [20:54]
mircea_popescu what's this mean, rid of reserves ? [20:55]
mircea_popescu you'd think reserves are a good thing [20:55]
usagi good to hear [20:56]
usagi keep it up ^^ [20:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00038174 = 4.5809 BTC [+] [20:57]
smickles so glbse has godmode or something now? [20:57]
nefario it will mean there will be no BTC reserve [20:58]
nefario meaning many many buy orders [20:58]
smickles oh yeah :) [20:58]
* smickles logs into glbse [20:58]
nefario as long as they are less than the total value of the BTC available [20:58]
smickles live now? [20:58]
nefario not available yet no [20:58]
smickles oh [20:58]
nefario I'm thinking tuesday latest [20:58]
smickles nice, i'm looking forward to it [20:59]
smickles mircea_popescu: no reserves in this context means that you have 5 btc in the account. you can place as many 5 btc orders as you want. When one of them is taken, then the others are canceled [21:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [21:00]
smickles correct me if i'm wrong nefario :) [21:00]
nefario correct [21:01]
nefario it will massively improve liquidity [21:01]
nefario it's whats been taking up my time as well [21:01]
mircea_popescu or the semblance thereof. [21:01]
nefario so I'll be able to add other things after [21:01]
nefario semblance? [21:02]
mircea_popescu well if someone can put in as many orders as they want based on 5 btc [21:02]
mircea_popescu then the sum of orders isn't really the liquidity. [21:02]
mircea_popescu the liquidity still is 5 btc. [21:02]
nefario but it won't be restricted [21:03]
nefario and the amount of trading that can be done with the same amount of BTC will increase [21:03]
mircea_popescu yeah. sorta like how mtgox does it. [21:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 1.011 = 3.033 BTC [+] [21:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 1.01 = 10.1 BTC [-] [21:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 1.0002 = 2.0004 BTC [-] [21:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 1.0001 = 10.001 BTC [-] [21:03]
nefario it means people can take advantage of more sell offers [21:03]
smickles with such slow movement on some assets, it's an improvement [21:04]
smickles maybe saying that it brings greater liquidity is not actually correct tho [21:04]
nefario no not really [21:04]
nefario actual amount of BTC stays the same [21:04]
smickles it spreads the liquidity which is already there, around [21:04]
mircea_popescu it has its advantages, as long as you can make sure that you're not hit with double spends [21:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1.3001 = 2.6002 BTC [-] [21:05]
nefario hmmm can't really think of the correct term [21:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.3 = 13 BTC [-] [21:05]
smickles viscosity [21:05]
mircea_popescu lol viscosity [21:05]
smickles (sp?) [21:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 5 @ 1.25000001 = 6.25 BTC [-] [21:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.25 = 12.5 BTC [-] [21:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 5 @ 1.20000001 = 6 BTC [-] [21:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.2 = 12 BTC [-] [21:05]
nefario that sounds so dirty [21:06]
nefario like "moist" [21:06]
mircea_popescu did you know that the hornier a girl is, the more viscuous her moisture ? [21:06]
mircea_popescu myea, it's dirty alright. [21:06]
smickles well, saying that it lowers the viscosity seems to describe it exactly [21:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.15000001 = 3.45 BTC [-] [21:07]
nefario lubes it up? [21:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 7 @ 1.37719916 = 9.6404 BTC [-] [21:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 1 @ 1.37719916 BTC [-] [21:07]
mircea_popescu nefario : suppose i have 10 btc. i put in three orders, to buy A, B and C each for 10 btc. [21:07]
smickles did i know, mp, lol, i once came across a girl who thought her stuff was my cum [21:07]
mircea_popescu it just so happens that by accident at the EXACT SAME TIME two people sell, A and C [21:07]
mircea_popescu what now ? [21:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.975 = 7.8 BTC [-] [21:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1.15000001 = 2.3 BTC [-] [21:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.15 = 11.5 BTC [-] [21:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 5 @ 1.10000011 = 5.5 BTC [-] [21:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 10 @ 1.1 = 11 BTC [-] [21:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 2 @ 0.12295 = 0.2459 BTC [+] [21:08]
mircea_popescu smickles i thought you were married too [21:08]
smickles yea [21:08]
smickles it's not like i was married since puberty tho [21:08]
mircea_popescu hehehe. im just trying to stir trouble [21:08]
nefario mircea_popescu: actual processing of trades has to happen in a queue [21:09]
nefario as part of the processsing [21:09]
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nefario other orders then get cancelled [21:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.975 = 19.5 BTC [-] [21:09]
nefario http://suidobashijuko.jp/ [21:09]
mircea_popescu doesn't this slow trade execution down ? [21:09]
nefario this is [21:09]
nefario ... [21:09]
nefario very interesting [21:09]
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nefario mircea_popescu: not really, since there aren't trades 100% of the time [21:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 50 @ 0.975 = 48.75 BTC [-] [21:10]
smickles all i see is a black screen [21:10]
EskimoBob I also like to have multiple orders out for same "money" available but this can cause huge swings in the orderbooks [21:10]
mircea_popescu smickles its a robot maker i think ? [21:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.10677196 = 0.4271 BTC [-] [21:11]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob yea, that may be a problem. especially for daytraders. [21:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [21:11]
smickles "An organization which aims to spread human ride robots. " [21:11]
JWU_42 and Pirate shit it down - if you hadn't already seen [21:11]
JWU_42 heh [21:11]
JWU_42 shut [21:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 1.1105 = 5.5525 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 2 @ 1.1104 = 2.2208 BTC [-] [21:11]
mircea_popescu huh ? [21:11]
EskimoBob what? [21:11]
JWU_42 [12:58] <@pirateat40> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822.msg605957#msg605957 [21:11]
smickles lol nov 3 [21:12]
smickles to today? [21:12]
smickles aug 17? [21:12]
Obsi it shows the original post date [21:12]
Obsi he edited it today [21:12]
JWU_42 correct [21:12]
jcpham yeah it is happening [21:12]
jcpham prepare yourself [21:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 1 @ 0.999 BTC [-] [21:13]
mircea_popescu whoa it's closed. nanotube! [21:13]
smickles yeah nano [21:13]
jcpham 14 days to pay [21:13]
EskimoBob lets just hope that PPT guys do not fuck us all over [21:13]
Obsi if it's orderly pirate still wins bet? [21:13]
mircea_popescu nope had to be till september. [21:13]
jcpham iirc [21:13]
nefario wow [21:14]
mircea_popescu hmm, now i dont recall the text. diodn't he have to survive till sept jcpham ? [21:14]
Obsi thought if he paid everyone back he still won [21:14]
nefario this is going to hurt trade volume [21:14]
jcpham idk myself [21:14]
jcpham but i thought it was default [21:14]
jcpham failure to pay [21:14]
JWU_42 nefario: just a tad ;) [21:14]
jcpham "default" [21:14]
mircea_popescu are you kidding ? volume is up like 100% [21:14]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1500 @ 0.00095084 = 1.4263 BTC [+] [21:14]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6188 @ 0.00095503 = 5.9097 BTC [+] [21:14]
EskimoBob no, if he closes down and returns money, this is NOT a default [21:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-] [21:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 5 @ 1.02000011 = 5.1 BTC [-] [21:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 30 @ 1.02000001 = 30.6 BTC [-] [21:15]
Obsi Someone should sell popcorn for BTC, they'd make a killing [21:15]
EskimoBob start pacing buy orders to PPT* :) [21:15]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 70000 @ 0.001 = 70 BTC [21:15]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13400 @ 0.00093603 = 12.5428 BTC [-] [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1100 @ 0.00092111 = 1.0132 BTC [-] [21:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 3 @ 0.98 = 2.94 BTC [-] [21:16]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 64886 @ 0.001 = 64.886 BTC [21:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.095 = 1.9 BTC [-] [21:16]
nefario mircea_popescu: volume for options [21:17]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 119720 @ 0.001 = 119.72 BTC [21:17]
mircea_popescu lmao i think that wiped the cdo ? [21:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 1.0500001 = 2.1 BTC [-] [21:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 1.0500001 BTC [-] [21:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 28 @ 1.05 = 29.4 BTC [-] [21:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 1 @ 1.051 BTC [-] [21:18]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 3663 @ 0.001 = 3.663 BTC [21:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 3 @ 0.978 = 2.934 BTC [-] [21:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 4 @ 0.4001 = 1.6004 BTC [-] [21:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 22 @ 0.975 = 21.45 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 38943 @ 0.001 = 38.943 BTC [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 4 @ 0.975 = 3.9 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.10677196 = 0.4271 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19041 @ 0.00038089 = 7.2525 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5387 @ 0.00037661 = 2.0288 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2143 @ 0.00037144 = 0.796 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26072 @ 0.00036815 = 9.5984 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5857 @ 0.00036707 = 2.1499 BTC [-] [21:20]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 4 @ 1.051 = 4.204 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.9741 = 9.741 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 80 @ 0.974 = 77.92 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 9 @ 0.973 = 8.757 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 11 @ 0.971 = 10.681 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 2 @ 1.15 = 2.3 BTC [-] [21:21]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 39 @ 0.971 = 37.869 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 61 @ 0.97 = 59.17 BTC [-] [21:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 0.999 = 2.997 BTC [+] [21:24]
smickles mircea_popescu: did it really now [21:24]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 3 @ 1.022 = 3.066 BTC [-] [21:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 39 @ 0.97 = 37.83 BTC [-] [21:24]
smickles the parts of the cdo can't fulfill their obligations w/o pirate? [21:24]
mircea_popescu smickles truth of the matter : not so many businesses in bitcoin land [21:24]
PsychoticBoy MAJOR PPT sell off lmfao [21:25]
mircea_popescu no, i meant wiped as in, sold out. [21:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 2 @ 1.021 = 2.042 BTC [-] [21:25]
smickles oh [21:25]
mircea_popescu nobody in that cdo is pirate-facing. [21:25]
nanotube mircea_popescu: no, orderly shutdown with all funds returned, means no default, so pirate wins [21:25]
mircea_popescu which is why. [21:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 85 @ 0.1149 = 9.7665 BTC [+] [21:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-] [21:25]
mircea_popescu nanotube he did it for the 5k! [21:25]
nanotube i'm sure he had other considerations :) [21:25]
PsychoticBoy lol that bet [21:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.081 BTC [-] [21:25]
mircea_popescu lol [21:26]
mircea_popescu dude i tell you, if that guy ran a ponzi for ~1 year and manages to soft land it [21:26]
mircea_popescu i'll have a whole lot of respect for him. its earned. [21:26]
EskimoBob Chaaang-Noi: are you around? [21:26]
smickles so mircea_popescu, in this new world, what kind of coupon would be interesting for a Ss²cbond? [21:26]
smickles er, s²cm [21:26]
JWU_42 1% [21:27]
mircea_popescu smickles well, i was gonna say yest, are you tranching it ? [21:27]
JWU_42 =) [21:27]
mircea_popescu or what else do you do ? [21:27]
smickles i was hoping for a simple bond [21:27]
Chaaang-Noi hi, give me a sec [21:27]
mircea_popescu JWU42 : B.MPCD.A actually paus 2% and it's senior. [21:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 90 @ 1.12000001 = 100.8 BTC [-] [21:27]
smickles face value, small coupon, maturity [21:27]
mircea_popescu smickles how do you convert your income to fixed return ? [21:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] [21:28]
mircea_popescu or just go for a normal honest to god bond like in sanityland ? [21:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.08 = 0.4 BTC [-] [21:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.95 = 9.5 BTC [-] [21:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.96 BTC [-] [21:28]
smickles we'd come up wiht amount that we know we could cover, even if most of our income falls thru [21:28]
mircea_popescu aha [21:28]
mircea_popescu well, mpbor was ~5% on the last month, so i'd guess something like that. [21:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.94 = 3.76 BTC [-] [21:29]
mircea_popescu or 1% ish a week if you do weeks. [21:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [21:29]
smickles so something about 52% yearly? [21:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 13 @ 1.15 = 14.95 BTC [+] [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [21:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 333 @ 0.115 = 38.295 BTC [+] [21:31]
mircea_popescu 5% per month is not 52% apr [21:31]
mircea_popescu .py 1.05 ** 12 [21:31]
markac 1.79585632602 [21:31]
EskimoBob massive fuck up [21:31]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob hm ? [21:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.95 = 3.8 BTC [-] [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 10 @ 0.902 = 9.02 BTC [-] [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 18 @ 0.901109 = 16.22 BTC [-] [21:32]
smickles heh, mp, it's all about the sort of interest you're talking about [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.08 = 0.24 BTC [-] [21:33]
smickles we might be able to safely do 1% per week [21:33]
smickles i'll need to crunch some numbers [21:33]
EskimoBob the whole pirate40 fuck up :) [21:33]
mircea_popescu where's bitcoin kruger to explain that the btc economy needs negative interest bonds [21:33]
smickles why isn't an apy of 100% appealing in bitcoin, everyone want more that 100% [21:35]
mircea_popescu because pirate fucked things up [21:35]
mircea_popescu now that he's out of the picture things might come back to some semblance of sanity. [21:36]
nanotube mircea_popescu: by definition, a ponzi cannot be softlanded. there cannot be enough money to pay all depositors. so if all funds are paid out, it was not a ponzi [21:36]
mircea_popescu nanotube i know. [21:36]
mircea_popescu that;s what i'm saying. [21:36]
nanotube hehe ok [21:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.08 = 0.16 BTC [-] [21:37]
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EskimoBob Interesting, what happens to zeros? [21:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 1 @ 0.96153845 BTC [+] [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 1000 @ 1.003 = 1003 BTC [+] [21:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.892 = 8.92 BTC [-] [21:39]
smickles 1003 btc [21:39]
smickles bing [21:39]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.85 = 2.55 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 3 @ 0.386 = 1.158 BTC [-] [21:40]
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smickles all these other things are taking a dive, mpcd gets a 1k buy [21:40]
Azelphur I imagine things are going to be interesting over the next few days as people reinvest BS&T funds [21:40]
mircea_popescu smickles i think that musta been a self trade. [21:40]
smickles heh, it looks good tho [21:41]
EskimoBob usagi: what is your .C plan? [21:41]
smickles if noone really looks at it [21:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 7 @ 0.3851 = 2.6957 BTC [-] [21:41]
mircea_popescu smickles someone bought them out and i think is trying to get people to buy in quickly and not read the contract. [21:41]
usagi Whut plan [21:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 30 @ 1 = 30 BTC [-] [21:41]
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usagi What do you mean what's my .C plan? [21:42]
smickles nyan cat [21:43]
EskimoBob what happens to nyncat.c? [21:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00038174 = 4.8863 BTC [+] [21:44]
usagi Well [21:44]
usagi It pays out about 8-9% a week [21:44]
usagi that's the plan [21:44]
mircea_popescu ... [21:44]
Obsi pirate shut down [21:44]
mircea_popescu how ?! [21:44]
copumpkin Obsi: hacked [21:45]
usagi Shut down? [21:45]
copumpkin all coins lost! [21:45]
usagi Lol [21:45]
Obsi say wat [21:45]
usagi I'll have to go read about it. [21:45]
copumpkin lol [21:45]
copumpkin nah, just kidding [21:45]
copumpkin orderly shutdown next week [21:45]
usagi Oh [21:45]
copumpkin or so he claims [21:45]
mircea_popescu So now what? [21:45]
mircea_popescu I’ve spoken with my clients over the last week and come to an agreement that would allow me to close down my operation within a week. Currently my reserve (operating wallets) are drained from fulfilling the withdraw spree that happened after the rate drop announcement. All withdraws at this point will be delayed until Monday when the shutdown process begins.. [21:45]
smickles copumpkin: excelent timing on that one :) [21:45]
mircea_popescu this does not seem all that orderly. [21:45]
mircea_popescu he will have to buy 100k btc on the open market ? [21:45]
mircea_popescu prepare for $20 [21:45]
usagi My advice [21:45]
usagi is to sell YARR now,. [21:45]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: he buys elsewhere too [21:45]
copumpkin or so he claims :) [21:46]
mircea_popescu "elsewhere". right. [21:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.141 BTC [-] [21:46]
mircea_popescu this reminds me of the virgin kids in highschool. they had sex "elsewhere". [21:46]
mircea_popescu as if at that age there's other places and other girls. [21:46]
smickles so copumpkin, i imagine you're gonna exercise that cause in that contract, eh? [21:46]
copumpkin lol [21:47]
mircea_popescu Update [21:48]
mircea_popescu Starting today, I've lifted the referral only requirement to open a Savings account. [21:48]
mircea_popescu this on the 13th [21:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [21:48]
mircea_popescu i think copumpkin had it : all coins lost. [21:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18200 @ 0.00038174 = 6.9477 BTC [+] [21:48]
usagi Ahh I see [21:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-] [21:49]
usagi YARR is about to go to 1. Cancel your bids :p [21:49]
usagi Sell out while you still can [21:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-] [21:50]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.10677196 = 0.4271 BTC [-] [21:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.8 = 4 BTC [-] [21:51]
nefario > mircea_popescu: as if at that age there's other places and other girls. [21:51]
nefario hookers? [21:51]
copumpkin I love me some hookers [21:51]
smickles i want t make a 1000 btc bond which matures in 1 year and pays a monthly coupon of 15 btc, or something like that [21:52]
nefario copumpkin [21:52]
nefario you don't love hookers [21:52]
copumpkin nefario [21:52]
nefario you use them [21:52]
copumpkin why not? [21:52]
copumpkin oh [21:52]
copumpkin well, I love them [21:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.38 BTC [-] [21:52]
usagi Well how this should play out is, NYAN.C and YARR should get 1 bitcoin back from our pirate investments [21:52]
smickles er... intervals [21:52]
usagi We will then operate a bidwall at 1. [21:53]
mircea_popescu i love them too. nothing wrong with that. [21:53]
usagi Do NOT sell NYAN or YARR for less than 1 bitcoin. [21:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 71 @ 0.3 = 21.3 BTC [-] [21:53]
mircea_popescu usagi : there's the school of thought that nobody hears from pirate again. [21:53]
usagi Both of them have nothing to do with pirate, YARR is insured even if we get 0 back [21:53]
usagi NYAN.C is a derivative and if pirate goes to zero it is still worth 1 btc [21:54]
mircea_popescu NYAN.C and YARR should get 1 bitcoin back from our pirate investments <> Both of them have nothing to do with pirate [21:54]
mircea_popescu say wut ?! [21:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [-] [21:54]
usagi Because YARR is backed with over 2,000 in mining and other bonds [21:55]
usagi if we get 0 back from pirate we begin liquidation and payout. [21:55]
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smickles weekly, i meant to say [21:55]
usagi As it turns out, the market severely overvalued the premium on pirate insurance. [21:55]
usagi If I were you.. I'd buy CPA shares now, :p [21:55]
mircea_popescu As it turns out, the market severely overvalued the premium on pirate insurance. < ?! [21:56]
usagi Well, actually, NYAN will be realizing that profit [21:56]
usagi Holy crapola [21:56]
usagi NYAN owns 50% of YARR [21:56]
usagi After the payout there will be a huge dividend [21:56]
usagi Ahahaha [21:56]
usagi This is going to be funny [21:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 5 @ 0.3 = 1.5 BTC [-] [21:56]
usagi And I've limited sales of NYAN.C to 3000 outstanding [21:56]
usagi Here's your fair warning; If pirate returns all coins to investors [21:56]
mircea_popescu smickles that might work. tho i'd make it 3 or 6 months. time compression online. [21:56]
usagi NYAN will have a huge dividend.. hmm, more than 30% I think [21:56]
usagi NYAN.C that is [21:57]
mircea_popescu and if pirate returns nothing ? [21:57]
usagi However there is a risk that pirate will return nothing and NYAN will pay zero for a couple of weeks [21:57]
usagi NYAN.C I mean. [21:57]
usagi NYAN will pay out because it passes thru from A and B as well [21:57]
usagi If you believe pirate will shut down in an orderly fashion, NYAN.C is a good play. [21:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [MPOE.ETF] 27 @ 1.37 = 36.99 BTC [-] [21:58]
smickles really? [21:58]
usagi NYAN.C owns 50% of YARR [21:58]
usagi i.e. right to profit [21:58]
smickles s.mpoe is on the rise, mpoe.etf is going down? [21:58]
mircea_popescu odd huh ?! [21:58]
smickles wtf market [21:58]
usagi YARR's assets are something like 4700 coins with 2350 shares of pirate [21:58]
mircea_popescu you'd expect people to divest pirate stuff move into nonpirate stuff [21:59]
usagi So theoretically if we bid wall at 1 and shut down YARR we will be left with 2350 BTC of assets, which will go to NYAN.C. [21:59]
usagi erm, half of it will go to C [21:59]
usagi That's the plan [21:59]
kakobreklaa hm pirate ending... i smell the short era of cdos [21:59]
usagi In this case "high risk" will become things like timeshareafrica, DMC, and..... Mining Bonds? heh [22:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.10677196 = 0.4271 BTC [-] [22:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19041 @ 0.00038089 = 7.2525 BTC [-] [22:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5387 @ 0.00037661 = 2.0288 BTC [-] [22:00]
usagi And JRO's new venture "ZapCoins" [22:00]
usagi Hi, I'm Vince with ZapCoins. Your coins will be zapped away when you use ZapCoins. [22:01]
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usagi I'm actually kind of relieved. I had wanted to sell YARR and focus on writing a killer bitcoin app [22:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 10 @ 0.099 = 0.99 BTC [+] [22:01]
usagi keeping up with daily payments is a huge drain [22:02]
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mircea_popescu back to 14.5 [22:02]
mircea_popescu so it seems ALL gets sold off lol. [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49516492 = 495.1649 BTC [-] [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41792088 = 417.9209 BTC [-] [22:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.34364417 = 343.6442 BTC [-] [22:04]
mircea_popescu o wow. [22:04]
mircea_popescu puts unwinding. [22:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1001 = 2.002 BTC [-] [22:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 21 @ 0.09989 = 2.0977 BTC [+] [22:05]
smickles jees, ppl selling hard into the bot? [22:06]
smickles wouldn't it be better to execute in that situation? [22:06]
mircea_popescu these were short i think. [22:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [22:08]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [22:09]
gribble 14.44 [22:09]
smickles woah [22:09]
smickles i missed something [22:09]
mircea_popescu what ? [22:09]
smickles like a dollar [22:09]
smickles last i knew, it was at 13.4ish [22:10]
mircea_popescu hehe [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5500 @ 0.00093777 = 5.1577 BTC [+] [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3000 @ 0.00093603 = 2.8081 BTC [-] [22:10]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.099 = 0.396 BTC [+] [22:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 5 @ 1.1201 = 5.6005 BTC [+] [22:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 7 @ 1.12 = 7.84 BTC [-] [22:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.B] 10 @ 1.115 = 11.15 BTC [-] [22:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 39 @ 0.3 = 11.7 BTC [-] [22:12]
nefario someone getting out [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.41788873 = 417.8887 BTC [-] [22:12]
smickles as word spreads [22:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.749 BTC [-] [22:12]
smickles and more puts [22:12]
mircea_popescu i think people are getting real antsy about btc/usd atm [22:13]
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mircea_popescu i wonder what the fallout scenarios are if pirate is never heardfrom again. [22:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.105 = 1.47 BTC [+] [22:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 7 @ 0.96 = 6.72 BTC [-] [22:14]
smickles i've been realy antsy about btc/usd for a while now [22:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 25 @ 0.068 = 1.7 BTC [-] [22:14]
smickles it's why i have a delta neutral position, overall [22:14]
nefario > mircea_popescu: i wonder what the fallout scenarios are if pirate is never heardfrom again. [22:15]
nefario economically speaking [22:15]
nefario the damage as already happened [22:15]
nefario the money removed from the economy [22:15]
smickles between mpex and some other choice things, i make btc up, down and sideways [22:15]
mircea_popescu ya but people haven't realised it yet. [22:15]
nefario eventually to be re-instroduced [22:15]
mircea_popescu smickles haha do you daytrade on mpex ? [22:15]
smickles not really [22:16]
smickles i do most of my stuff at the beginning of the month [22:16]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.49513636 = 495.1364 BTC [-] [22:18]
smickles i did, however buy some C100T at a good price [22:18]
usagi Maybe now peopple will invest in mining! [22:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [+] [22:18]
nefario usagi: you sly dog [22:19]
mircea_popescu lol [22:19]
nefario it was you all along [22:19]
nefario lol [22:19]
mircea_popescu usagi got really excited earlier :D [22:19]
usagi I've been waiting for this [22:19]
usagi Now I will finally be able to prove CPA is for real [22:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 2 @ 0.048 = 0.096 BTC [+] [22:19]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140T] 4 @ 0.10677196 = 0.4271 BTC [-] [22:20]
farfi you think he will dfault? [22:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.01899998 BTC [+] [22:20]
usagi Who know [22:20]
usagi Who knows [22:20]
smickles volume is picking up on gox [22:20]
usagi Nefario: What was me all along? [22:20]
usagi I actually had a theory that pirate defaulted because people were withdrawing from direct accounts and buying YARR and other issues [22:21]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [22:21]
gribble Best bid: 13.827, Best ask: 13.8648, Bid-ask spread: 0.03780, Last trade: 13.827, 24 hour volume: 109753, 24 hour low: 13.2, 24 hour high: 15.4 [22:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 0.75 = 9 BTC [+] [22:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [22:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090T] 13 @ 0.03538231 = 0.46 BTC [-] [22:22]
smickles sweet shit [22:23]
smickles i just sold those at 10x what i thought they were worth [22:23]
mircea_popescu the puts ? [22:23]
smickles po90t [22:23]
usagi Seriously people selling -P for 0.75 are insane [22:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.7 = 7 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.502 = 5.02 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.501 = 5.01 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 9 @ 0.4 = 3.6 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.3 = 3 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32472 @ 0.00037193 = 12.0773 BTC [-] [22:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [22:26]
smickles .7 to .3? [22:27]
smickles wowza [22:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.076 = 0.228 BTC [-] [22:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.075 = 0.3 BTC [-] [22:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.071 = 0.213 BTC [-] [22:28]
PsychoticBoy ppt crash on glbse, read all about it [22:28]
farfi stupid [22:28]
mircea_popescu yeah [22:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] [22:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-] [22:29]
mircea_popescu so in the end glbse investments are of two kinds : [22:29]
mircea_popescu miner bonds, where you make a little each month and lose 2x from your capital same month [22:29]
farfi hehe [22:29]
mircea_popescu and pirate bonds, where you make more each month and lose most of your capital in three month intervals [22:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [-] [22:29]
mircea_popescu seems very investor-y. [22:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 66 @ 0.105 = 6.93 BTC [+] [22:29]
smickles mircea_popescu: ahem [22:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.105 = 0.42 BTC [+] [22:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 3 @ 0.068 = 0.204 BTC [-] [22:30]
mircea_popescu smickles did i leave something out ? [22:30]
usagi Yes you did [22:30]
smickles a couple of small gems [22:30]
usagi You should take a look at what NYAN.B invests in [22:30]
mircea_popescu well of course i left things out, i was being mean. [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:30]
usagi NYAN.B only invests in non-mining, non-pirate securities [22:30]
mircea_popescu usagi those exist ? [22:30]
usagi It sounded ill-informed [22:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [CBGB] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+] [22:31]
smickles cbgb? lol [22:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.D] 1 @ 1.2301 BTC [+] [22:31]
smickles waht a name [22:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.D] 5 @ 1.2211 = 6.1055 BTC [-] [22:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.D] 2 @ 1.2201 = 2.4402 BTC [-] [22:31]
mircea_popescu whoa look at that! [22:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.D] 10 @ 1 = 10 BTC [-] [22:31]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:31]
gribble Best bid: 13.35, Best ask: 13.35001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 13.35, 24 hour volume: 115247, 24 hour low: 13.17524, 24 hour high: 15.4 [22:31]
smickles oh [22:31]
smickles maybe i sold those puts too soon [22:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 35 @ 0.05 = 1.75 BTC [-] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 10 @ 0.07093232 = 0.7093 BTC [-] [22:32]
smickles i'll laugh if they end up itm [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.50485713 = 504.8571 BTC [+] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.42683066 = 426.8307 BTC [+] [22:32]
smickles pirate is manipulating the price down [22:32]
smickles so he can buy cheap coins to pay people off [22:33]
mircea_popescu conspiracy! [22:33]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P180T] 1000 @ 0.35169001 = 351.69 BTC [+] [22:33]
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smickles !! [22:33]
usagi it's difficult to get a trade page on glbse [22:34]
usagi the boxes don't show up :< [22:34]
usagi gotta reload 2 or 3 times [22:34]
mircea_popescu jeez. [22:34]
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mircea_popescu ok, i am guessing the bubble is popping huh [22:34]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 31 @ 0.99 = 30.69 BTC [-] [22:35]
mircea_popescu wowza giga under 12 [22:35]
mircea_popescu 1* [22:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18326 @ 0.00038089 = 6.9802 BTC [+] [22:35]
mircea_popescu ok, this is a clearly massive selloff. [22:35]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.74999999 BTC [+] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 1 @ 1.2499 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 1 @ 1.25 BTC [+] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [-] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 20 @ 0.068 = 1.36 BTC [-] [22:37]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:38]
gribble Best bid: 12.80817, Best ask: 13, Bid-ask spread: 0.19183, Last trade: 12.8, 24 hour volume: 122466, 24 hour low: 12.8, 24 hour high: 15.4 [22:38]
mircea_popescu o wow. [22:38]
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mircea_popescu under 13. [22:39]
mircea_popescu what a day. [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:40]
kakobreklaa indeed [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.43493314 = 434.9331 BTC [+] [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.51365024 = 513.6502 BTC [+] [22:41]
mircea_popescu mmm i think that's over 5k btc worth of puts for the day. [22:42]
mircea_popescu crazy. [22:42]
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* smickles just manual arb'd a bit [22:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-] [22:43]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5500 @ 0.00093777 = 5.1577 BTC [+] [22:44]
mircea_popescu and i was getting all geared up to add strikes 20-30 [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2301 @ 0.00093603 = 2.1538 BTC [-] [22:44]
smickles mee too [22:44]
mircea_popescu sux. [22:44]
smickles maybe another month [22:45]
smickles you should lay down a C1000N, just for the fuck of it [22:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 4 @ 0.02857462 = 0.1143 BTC [+] [22:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 22 @ 0.02422959 = 0.5331 BTC [-] [22:45]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 974 @ 0.00530545 = 5.1675 BTC [-] [22:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 6 @ 0.068 = 0.408 BTC [-] [22:45]
mircea_popescu haha yeah [22:46]
smickles volume is 7% above average on gox already [22:46]
mircea_popescu that's not so much... you mean daily vol ? [22:46]
smickles yeah [22:46]
smickles 26day average [22:47]
smickles it's the bitcoincharts pvo [22:47]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:50]
gribble Best bid: 12.49501, Best ask: 12.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.00499, Last trade: 12.5, 24 hour volume: 130540, 24 hour low: 12.5, 24 hour high: 15.4 [22:50]
mircea_popescu under 12.5 [22:50]
mircea_popescu and volume isn't that great i'd say. [22:50]
mircea_popescu 130k, what's that. [22:50]
EskimoBob panic sale [22:50]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P140N] 3 @ 0.2574551 = 0.7724 BTC [-] [22:50]
EskimoBob and then it turns around and off it is [22:50]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 143 @ 0.099 = 14.157 BTC [+] [22:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 90 @ 0.099 = 8.91 BTC [+] [22:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 57 @ 0.09999999 = 5.7 BTC [+] [22:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.52256474 = 522.5647 BTC [+] [22:51]
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smickles people must really think pirate is not going to pay back [22:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 51 @ 0.99 = 50.49 BTC [-] [22:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 1000 @ 0.44315548 = 443.1555 BTC [+] [22:53]
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mircea_popescu well... some people for sure do. [22:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.6998 = 6.998 BTC [-] [22:54]
smickles heh, you wanted ppl to buy some puts [22:54]
mircea_popescu lol srsly. [22:54]
mircea_popescu it spun me around, i was -3k on puts now i think im more like +3k [22:55]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [22:55]
gribble 14.19 [22:55]
mircea_popescu yeah that's dropping fast. [22:55]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [22:56]
gribble Best bid: 12.269, Best ask: 12.35, Bid-ask spread: 0.08100, Last trade: 12.3981, 24 hour volume: 132153, 24 hour low: 12.269, 24 hour high: 15.4 [22:56]
mircea_popescu o wow [22:56]
mircea_popescu under 10 ? [22:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-] [22:56]
MoneyIsDebt damn, why are bank wires so slow [22:56]
mircea_popescu lol [22:56]
mircea_popescu because moneyisdaith [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 17 @ 0.5 = 8.5 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00038174 = 8.2456 BTC [+] [22:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3826 @ 0.00038275 = 1.4644 BTC [+] [22:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24974 @ 0.00038517 = 9.6192 BTC [+] [22:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 15 @ 0.08 = 1.2 BTC [-] [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [+] [22:59]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:00]
Chaaang-Noi .6 holy shit [23:00]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [23:00]
mircea_popescu buy them back [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 1 @ 0.08287774 BTC [+] [23:00]
mircea_popescu buy them back [23:00]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:00]
gribble Best bid: 11.87601, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.12399, Last trade: 11.87601, 24 hour volume: 147383, 24 hour low: 11.45, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:00]
mircea_popescu o m f g. [23:00]
mircea_popescu ;;bid 10 [23:01]
gribble Error: "bid" is not a valid command. [23:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [-] [23:01]
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MoneyIsDebt ;;bids 10 [23:01]
gribble There are currently 21613.255 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 232063.966674 USD in total. [23:01]
mircea_popescu a ty [23:01]
mircea_popescu 20k over 10 huh ? we might see 9. [23:01]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [23:02]
gribble Best bid: 11.579, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.42100, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 148079, 24 hour low: 11.4, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:02]
smickles lol, on the day i decide to sell my puts struck at 9 [23:02]
mircea_popescu Bid-ask spread: 0.42100 0.0 [23:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 20 @ 0.59999 = 11.9998 BTC [-] [23:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.6 = 3 BTC [+] [23:03]
mircea_popescu mtgox has turned into wannabitexchange :D [23:03]
smickles ah well, i got a good price for 'em, we'd have to actually drop below 9 for that to hurt [23:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [23:03]
smickles and it was only 13 of 'em [23:04]
mircea_popescu pity that people have this run from btc "investment" all the way to usd mentality. [23:04]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:05]
gribble Best bid: 11.35, Best ask: 11.6, Bid-ask spread: 0.25000, Last trade: 11.35, 24 hour volume: 150600, 24 hour low: 11.35, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.14 = 0.28 BTC [-] [23:05]
mircea_popescu last trade 11.35 [23:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-] [23:05]
mircea_popescu ima go watch a film or something, this is too much. [23:06]
kakobreklaa how can you watch a movie while dis is happenin [23:07]
mircea_popescu kakobreklaa a tit in each hand. [23:07]
farfi its a day to remember [23:07]
Doffx best movie ever right here [23:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [+] [23:07]
usagi Can't get a trade screen to open on glbse [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080T] 10 @ 0.05127951 = 0.5128 BTC [+] [23:08]
usagi Nefario, any idea how many people are using GLBSE atm? [23:08]
smickles the glbse server is on fire, nef won't answer b/c he's putting itout [23:09]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 75 @ 0.12 = 9 BTC [-] [23:09]
usagi nef is puttin' one out ehh [23:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 10 @ 0.51999 = 5.1999 BTC [+] [23:10]
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usagi I can imagine.. everyone with an account must be there now [23:10]
smickles ;;tslb [23:11]
gribble Time since last block: 23 minutes and 0 seconds [23:11]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 9 @ 0.9 = 8.1 BTC [-] [23:12]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 0.81000001 BTC [-] [23:13]
Chaaang-Noi lol yarr at .81 [23:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.61 = 6.1 BTC [+] [23:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 36 @ 0.6 = 21.6 BTC [-] [23:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-] [23:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [+] [23:15]
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MoneyIsDebt how much bitcoin was dumped in total just now? [23:15]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7916 @ 0.00095449 = 7.5557 BTC [+] [23:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 17 @ 0.09999999 = 1.7 BTC [+] [23:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 12 @ 0.81 = 9.72 BTC [-] [23:16]
Diablo-D3 a lot [23:17]
Diablo-D3 other channel said over 50k [23:17]
smickles wait, didn't usagi say yar was worth 1 regardless of a pirate default? [23:17]
usagi yup [23:17]
usagi Someone's being stupid [23:17]
Diablo-D3 did pirate default? [23:17]
usagi do not sell yarr under 1 [23:18]
smickles nope [23:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 10 @ 0.074 = 0.74 BTC [+] [23:18]
smickles Diablo-D3: pirate shutdown [23:18]
Diablo-D3 so he just quit instead? [23:18]
smickles yup [23:18]
smickles gonna return the principle [23:18]
Diablo-D3 but hes still paying out the final week? [23:18]
farfi yup [23:18]
Diablo-D3 okay, thats fine [23:18]
toffoo where's it say that? [23:18]
smickles his bs&t post [23:19]
farfi he says he will pay interest up until the funds are sent [23:19]
usagi I'm putting in supporting bids for YARR as we speak but GLBSE is slow [23:19]
Diablo-D3 jesus glbse is slow [23:19]
smickles ok, time to pay the SS dividend [23:19]
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Diablo-D3 btw for all the people who give fucks [23:20]
Diablo-D3 the DMC motion to suspend dividends was yea 8253, nay 914 [23:20]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [-] [23:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 90 @ 1 = 90 BTC [-] [23:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00038517 = 3.428 BTC [+] [23:23]
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Lucidize so just to be clear, yarr won't go above 1 now? [23:25]
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smickles ;;tslb [23:27]
gribble Time since last block: 39 minutes and 50 seconds [23:27]
kakobreklaa errybody shut down their miners [23:28]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 10 @ 0.96 = 9.6 BTC [-] [23:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [-] [23:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 37 @ 0.12 = 4.44 BTC [-] [23:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 26 @ 0.074 = 1.924 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 5 @ 0.0745 = 0.3725 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 2 @ 0.074999 = 0.15 BTC [+] [23:35]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [23:37]
gribble Best bid: 12, Best ask: 12.09998, Bid-ask spread: 0.09998, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 181801, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:37]
Diablo-D3 >low [23:39]
Diablo-D3 >high [23:39]
Diablo-D3 :3 [23:39]
mircea_popescu aha so a bottom is in huh [23:39]
Chaaang-Noi please fill my low ass bids of .4 on my P bonds, hehehe [23:40]
smickles ;;tslb [23:40]
gribble Time since last block: 52 minutes and 11 seconds [23:40]
Chaaang-Noi oh lol [23:40]
mircea_popescu wowza [23:40]
Chaaang-Noi yeah that sucks [23:40]
mircea_popescu no wai ?! [23:40]
smickles i guess the miners stopped too? [23:40]
Chaaang-Noi i bet that next block has soooo many transactions [23:40]
mircea_popescu so when this block finally goes through and all the btc makes it to mtgox [23:40]
mircea_popescu we see round 2 ? [23:40]
smickles maybe [23:41]
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smickles are there live stats on the network hashrate? [23:41]
smickles ;;bc,stats [23:41]
gribble Current Blocks: 194368 | Current Difficulty: 2190865.9701029 | Next Difficulty At Block: 195551 | Next Difficulty In: 1183 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 15 hours, 2 minutes, and 11 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2364194.91326944 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.91143527408 [23:41]
MoneyIsDebt wonder if miners can frontrun mtgox this way [23:41]
smickles meh, not that [23:41]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [23:42]
gribble Best bid: 12.34062, Best ask: 12.436, Bid-ask spread: 0.09538, Last trade: 12.34062, 24 hour volume: 184763, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:42]
sgornick mircea_popescu: Are the options quotes on MPeX still valid for orders? I.e. arbitrage buy selling puts and buying at market is profitable right now? [23:42]
asa ;;nodes [23:42]
gribble Error: "nodes" is not a valid command. [23:42]
smickles >2700 unconfirmed txes [23:42]
asa ''node [23:42]
mircea_popescu option quotes are still valid, yes. [23:43]
smickles sgornick: mpex uses the ,,bc,24hprc , but yes [23:43]
mircea_popescu if you can arbitrage go ahead [23:43]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [23:43]
gribble 13.47 [23:43]
mircea_popescu MoneyIsDebt im sure they can, thing is... have to get enough of themn on the bandwagon [23:43]
Doffx Wow someone bought 20000 btc [23:43]
Doffx Dont think ive ever seen a puchase that big [23:44]
mircea_popescu im sure i have. [23:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.5999 BTC [+] [23:44]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 1000 @ 0.0509 = 50.9 BTC [+] [23:45]
mircea_popescu btw sgornick [23:45]
mircea_popescu is that bitpaste thing dead ? [23:45]
Doffx I thought you were watching a movie while holding some tits mircea_popescu [23:45]
Doffx :) [23:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 3 @ 0.335 = 1.005 BTC [+] [23:45]
smickles Doffx: i say a 70k order go thru the mtgox websocket once [23:45]
mircea_popescu bobby deerfield. it turned out boring. [23:45]
sgornick mircea_popescu: http://bitbin.it ? [23:45]
mircea_popescu o. you said .net [23:46]
sgornick doh! [23:46]
mircea_popescu lol. [23:46]
Doffx 20k during this volatility is interesting though [23:46]
MoneyIsDebt btccharts looks like a heartrate monitor during cardiac arrest [23:46]
Doffx especially when the pressure is to sell [23:46]
smickles that 70k was what stopped us from going over 7.2 at the time [23:46]
MoneyIsDebt Doffx: pirate needs to buy probably [23:46]
smickles it was like, ... BLAMO [23:47]
mircea_popescu btccharts looks like a heartrate monitor during cardiac arrest <<< [23:47]
Doffx wow [23:47]
kakobreklaa ;;ticker [23:47]
gribble Best bid: 12.90513, Best ask: 13, Bid-ask spread: 0.09487, Last trade: 13, 24 hour volume: 192033, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:47]
mircea_popescu aha it's coming back to life huh [23:48]
smickles MoneyIsDebt: add that chart to the blockchain.info new transactions 'beep' [23:48]
smickles http://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions [23:48]
Doffx yeah it went up after that 22k purchase [23:48]
MoneyIsDebt smickles: oh man , I forgot about the beeps [23:48]
smickles it's going wild right now [23:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 25 @ 1 = 25 BTC [-] [23:48]
smickles almost 60 bpm [23:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.285 BTC [-] [23:48]
smickles if i judge it correctly [23:48]
MoneyIsDebt mircea_popescu: and it's not all 1dice [23:49]
smickles ok, totally wrong about that, it's way over 60 [23:49]
MoneyIsDebt sorry that was for smickles [23:49]
smickles it's no 1dice as i see it [23:49]
Chaaang-Noi bib.pirate at .285???/ [23:49]
mircea_popescu Total Size 1010.8603515625 (kilobytes) [23:49]
mircea_popescu Total Fees 0.68525198 BTC [23:50]
mircea_popescu so unfair,. [23:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [SATOSHISDAEMON.HORSE] 2 @ 0.21 = 0.42 BTC [23:51]
smickles wow [23:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 892 @ 0.0510375 = 45.5255 BTC [+] [23:51]
smickles i think i just saw a 10k btc tx zing by the unconfirmed ticker [23:51]
mircea_popescu was it going to mtgox ? [23:51]
smickles the beeps may as well be a constant tone [23:52]
smickles mircea_popescu: i have no idea, and it's prolly 12 pages down now [23:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 4 @ 0.8 = 3.2 BTC [+] [23:52]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:52]
gribble Best bid: 12.96, Best ask: 12.99359, Bid-ask spread: 0.03359, Last trade: 12.96, 24 hour volume: 193198, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:52]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [23:52]
gribble Time since last block: 9 minutes and 53 seconds [23:53]
mircea_popescu aha it cleared. [23:53]
smickles and 1 other [23:53]
MoneyIsDebt heh, there's still a few 1dice in there... as if things weren't enough of a gamble at this point [23:53]
usagi ;;ticker [23:53]
gribble Best bid: 13.00001, Best ask: 13.2, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 13.2988, 24 hour volume: 193338, 24 hour low: 10.6, 24 hour high: 15.4 [23:53]
usagi whee [23:53]
smickles but the S²cm dividend wasn't included in either [23:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 185 @ 0.3 = 55.5 BTC [-] [23:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 230 @ 0.285 = 65.55 BTC [-] [23:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [PIMP] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [-] [23:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 715 @ 0.00038089 = 0.2723 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5387 @ 0.00037661 = 2.0288 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9098 @ 0.00037653 = 3.4257 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.5999 BTC [+] [23:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 20 @ 0.2851 = 5.702 BTC [-] [23:57]
Doffx Man if you had an arbitrage bot running today [23:58]
Diablo-D3 usagi: so [23:59]
Diablo-D3 now I have to wait until the 19th [23:59]
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