Forum logs for 17 Apr 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.05252 = 0.2101 BTC [-] [00:05]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [02:43]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [02:43]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [02:43]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [02:43]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 532.93, vol: 30405.03419523 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 530.0, vol: 26368.61606 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 535.48, vol: 29414.42731683 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 525.0, vol: 132.76821455 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 530.150907, vol: 8937.38800000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 523.52018, vol: 51.15564199 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 530.6112, vol: 156.56210479 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [02:43]
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BingoBoingo ;;more [02:43]
gribble 532.626348898 [02:43]
mircea_popescu who dares complain!!11 [02:43]
BingoBoingo Eh, someone who tried to bitbet late [02:45]
BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-04-2014#627678 [02:46]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:46]
peterl but why is it crashing? [02:49]
mod6 what is? [02:52]
BingoBoingo Dollars!!! [02:52]
peterl the price, it is down from its high [02:52]
peterl !t m x.eur [02:53]
assbot [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00313681 / 0.00313681 / 0.00313681 (786 shares, 2.47 BTC), 30D: 0.00213452 / 0.00257686 / 0.00313681 (2268 shares, 5.84 BTC) [02:53]
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mircea_popescu !up SatoshiJack [02:55]
assbot Voicing SatoshiJack for 30 minutes. [02:55]
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SatoshiJack thanks mp -- we are very close -- should open doors for atc in the next couple of days... [02:56]
peterl SatoshiJack: who is we? [02:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ALC] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [02:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4917 @ 0.00096548 = 4.7473 BTC [-] [02:58]
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SatoshiJack My team...the satoshiJack team :) [03:00]
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benkay ;;gettrust SatoshiJack [03:11]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18. Trust relationship from user benkay to user SatoshiJack: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=SatoshiJack | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SatoshiJack | Rated since: never [03:11]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot SatoshiJack [03:11]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask SatoshiJack!d05aad12@gateway/web/freenode/ip.208.90.173.18. Trust relationship from user assbot to user SatoshiJack: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=SatoshiJack | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=SatoshiJack | Rated since: never [03:11]
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peterl is it considered better manners to set otc ratings in the channel or via pm with gribble? [03:16]
mircea_popescu hasn't gotten to the point of actually bothering yet. [03:17]
mircea_popescu i suspect people like to keep an eye on it [03:17]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo looking good. [03:18]
BingoBoingo At least for a while bringing up the assbot - target path is probably productive to see if people wanting voice can already !up themselves [03:18]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Thanks [03:18]
benkay peterl: we're all making it up as we go [03:18]
benkay the dynamics of upping is interesting to watch as well [03:19]
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mircea_popescu so reading the log... is nubbins` like this chan's cialis or what. [03:23]
bitcoinpete ;;later tell artifexd your nudge was just what i needed to finally get that done. thanks! [03:23]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:23]
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BingoBoingo nubbins` is a lot of things [03:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.52 BTC [+] [03:24]
mircea_popescu Duffer1: sorry man that all was before my time, not sure what all happened << mnw figured he'd be a smartass, bet everyone pirate will deliver (after default). 10k btc, which he obviously lost, which he then reneged on (pretending he's "delivering" by simply writing 10k BTC in a foirum post) and got banned. [03:24]
mircea_popescu then got unbanned [03:25]
mircea_popescu then got banned again [03:25]
mircea_popescu then piles of drama, it gets circular. [03:25]
Azelphur I remember that [03:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15249 @ 0.00095914 = 14.6259 BTC [-] {2} [03:25]
mircea_popescu congratulations, you're old enough :) [03:25]
Azelphur o/ [03:26]
mircea_popescu rithm: which is broken because you have no way to idetify the person you communicate with on that forum << stop slandering https etc. [03:26]
Azelphur that was pretty funny "This bet is serious business, if you place the bet and loose then don't pay, you will be marked as a scammer and banned" [03:27]
Azelphur "Oh shit I lost... NOPE IT WAS ALL A BIG JOKE HAHAHA" [03:27]
mircea_popescu myeah. [03:27]
Azelphur I remember he was writer at bitcoin magazine too, iirc he got fired over it [03:30]
BingoBoingo Bitcoin Magazine has its own lulzy history [03:32]
bitcoinpete ;;rate artifexd 1 nudger [03:33]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user artifexd has changed from 1 to 1. [03:33]
mircea_popescu Azelphur nah, he was fired when the bitpay crew screwed the original owner out of his shares and put that romanian kid in [03:33]
mircea_popescu whatever his name is. who maybe left meanwhile or w/e [03:33]
Azelphur I see [03:34]
mircea_popescu or maybe he left in protest or maybe he was fired right before that ? shit's starting to get foggy [03:34]
Azelphur god alone knows [03:34]
Azelphur he's not a nice fellow, tldr. [03:34]
mircea_popescu i dunno he's not nice. he's definitely one of the guys that got raped in the ass by their failure to take bitcoin serious enough. [03:36]
mircea_popescu where enough is a value roughly in excess of hard infinity. [03:36]
mircea_popescu aleph three. [03:36]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell TestingUnoDosTre eh what robbed, thing closed at like 11, you bet 11:20 or what [03:37]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:37]
BingoBoingo The hazard of late BitBets, on price especially is when the thing hits verus where it sticks can be... messy, and the difference here is in the house's favor [03:39]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why people insist to try and use a knowledge advantage. fucking thing has about 700 bells and whistles pointing out you'll get hurt in all likeliness [03:40]
mircea_popescu yet people can't resist. [03:40]
mircea_popescu i guess it's all a testament to the SEC's historical success in controlling insider trading. [03:40]
mircea_popescu hear ye of little competence : i am and i have been doing a shitload better than you ever did, to the degree the differential is culture-shocking people. [03:40]
peterl one more reason to bet early [03:41]
BingoBoingo Preach it. I mean why do people keep getting this "free winning" idea when BET is in the name [03:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3073 @ 0.00011911 = 0.366 BTC [+] {4} [03:41]
mircea_popescu i guess it's just irresistible and that's how it'll stay. [03:42]
mircea_popescu o look i missed the polish inflation discussion. [03:43]
mircea_popescu maybe next time. [03:43]
BingoBoingo The de/in-flation discussions always have a next time [03:44]
benkay http://theumlaut.com/2014/04/16/a-coup-not-an-exit/ [03:45]
benkay the light begins to dawn... [03:45]
mircea_popescu "This view is charmingly naïve. " [03:46]
mircea_popescu assholes not in here daring to claim things are "charmingly naive". irony crits. [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00095719 = 12.4435 BTC [-] [03:47]
benkay perhaps they read logs? [03:47]
benkay perhaps they have someone reading logs? [03:47]
mircea_popescu still presumptuous. [03:47]
mircea_popescu peterl can you post that again in something that's not a hairball of js ? like a pastebin say. or a wp blog or something. [03:47]
peterl yeah, sure, give me a minute [03:48]
benkay php > js [03:48]
bitcoinpete benkay: eli doesn't get the scarcity angle. few casual observers do, particularly amid the mt gox this and that noise [03:49]
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mircea_popescu benkay im trying to be user friendly shush you [03:49]
benkay i don't really get the mining arguments. but yes, containerization. [03:49]
benkay paucity of new coins, bitcoinpete ? [03:50]
bitcoinpete basically [03:50]
bitcoinpete "Bitcoin for now exists at the pleasure of governments" << this is just priceless [03:51]
peterl http://pastebin.com/euqGSEgn [03:51]
ozbot LIF retrospective - Pastebin.com [03:51]
bitcoinpete there's some gems in there [03:51]
peterl is that better? [03:51]
benkay signed and everything [03:51]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/456595768221003777 [03:51]
ozbot Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: @rabite Let's talk. ... [03:51]
mircea_popescu if guy actually shows up someone up him. [03:51]
peterl cause sure, why not sign it? [03:51]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete everyone wants to think that the earth sucked before he showed up to fix it. [03:52]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: and that times, they are a changing. so fast that history is useless [03:53]
benkay ;;gettrust peterl [03:53]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask peterl!~peterl@108-204-237-26.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user benkay to user peterl: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=peterl | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=peterl | Rated since: Wed Apr 16 17:10:12 2014 [03:53]
mircea_popescu whoa stumbleupon still exists ?! [03:53]
bitcoinpete define "exist" [03:54]
benkay peterl: what is your otc identity? [03:54]
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mircea_popescu that's a point. "anything other than a rip page" [03:54]
peterl peterl is my otc id [03:54]
benkay hm [03:55]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: lol that doesn't leave a lot, does it [03:56]
mircea_popescu http://fuckedcompany.com/ bitcoinpete [03:56]
ozbot FuckedCompany.com - Official Lubricant Of The New Economy [03:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00095299 = 16.582 BTC [-] [03:57]
bitcoinpete that's a new one [03:57]
mircea_popescu lol. it's not new, young padawan. you are :D [03:57]
bitcoinpete lol i meant for me! [03:58]
mircea_popescu hehe. that was the techmeme before arlington was invented. [03:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.50072223 = 9.013 BTC [-] {7} [04:00]
bitcoinpete http://t.co/4DE6RoFKMj [04:00]
bitcoinpete the nobel comes to bitcoin [04:01]
mircea_popescu "Best ATM Design" ? [04:01]
mircea_popescu what's this troop smoking lmao [04:01]
mircea_popescu "Most Impactful Charity" [04:01]
mircea_popescu anyone wants to bet the bitpay sister gets that ? what was her name [04:01]
bitcoinpete mp, you'd better win best journalist [04:01]
mircea_popescu Each of the winners will receive 1 BTC [04:02]
mircea_popescu aghagaga o spare me sally. [04:02]
bitcoinpete and influential investor lol [04:02]
BingoBoingo I think MP takes most influential investor [04:02]
mircea_popescu i should probably make a pie throwing contest, give 10 btc to the best thrown pie to the face of these losers. [04:02]
bitcoinpete and legal expert, and bitcoin champion, and on an on [04:03]
mircea_popescu that;s about their total pool. [04:03]
bitcoinpete except it was funny/sad how few people at the bitcoin expo in toronto who'd even heard of you or mpex [04:03]
bitcoinpete there should be EmPee Awards [04:04]
peterl they have a list of people they already picked to honor (themselves), and they had to come up with a category for everybody? [04:04]
mircea_popescu how many people at bitcoin toronto heard of niederauer ? [04:04]
bitcoinpete fair enough [04:04]
mircea_popescu lol why am i looking at some japanese chick with her panties on [04:06]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/447344144315211776 [04:07]
ozbot Twitter / rogerkver: Tokyo has the best Bitcoin ... [04:07]
mircea_popescu srsly, i am not impresst. [04:07]
bitcoinpete EmPee Award categories: best haircut, funniest log line, herpiest derp, best troll… [04:08]
bitcoinpete ya, she looks like an amputee [04:08]
bitcoinpete http://www.seriouss.net/#!Support-the-BitGive-Foundation/c20df/0281C51F-4999-40B1-8653-13F099D34964 [04:10]
ozbot Serious Stuff [04:10]
bitcoinpete donating bitcoin to charity will "not only will it help a worthy charitable cause, it will also contribute to the future success of Bitcoin:" < [04:10]
mircea_popescu this is a stupid idea, because in general charity is powered by tax deductions. [04:11]
mircea_popescu this makes donations the absolute last thing bitcoin will do. [04:11]
mircea_popescu but try and talk it to the fucktards who have some shit impacted in their head which they misrepresent as an idea, and then try to use everything they encounter on the road as shit-amplifyer, instead of using it as a shit removing device. [04:12]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [04:13]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1782548/plain/) [04:13]
bitcoinpete everything is used to amplify brain damage here [04:13]
bitcoinpete it's socially encouraged [04:13]
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peterl well, according to IRS rules, couldn't you claim a bitcoin donation as charitable donation for tax purposes? [04:13]
mircea_popescu peterl try and do so. [04:14]
peterl since bitcoins are assets like cars and shit? [04:14]
mircea_popescu you can claim anything you want, including that you have 84 minor children. [04:14]
mircea_popescu then you get audited. [04:14]
mircea_popescu then you get to argue it in court. [04:14]
mircea_popescu then you win. [04:14]
mircea_popescu or die, whichever comes first. [04:14]
mircea_popescu people with actual tax accountants who get actual advice (ie, the people in a position to make meaningful donations) don't do stupid shit because that;'s what happened to be in front of their eyes that hour. [04:15]
peterl as long as the charity gave you a receipt, I don't see why there would be any hassle? [04:15]
mircea_popescu because the business of the irs is to hassle the margin. [04:15]
mircea_popescu that's what a taxman does, in all tiumes and places. it's the fundamental conservative mechanism of a society. [04:16]
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mircea_popescu !up thecluck [04:18]
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mircea_popescu lampelinaa how's it going ? [04:21]
bitcoinpete .d [04:21]
ozbot 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 121 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.3566% in 0d 17h 8m 44s [04:21]
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mircea_popescu !up bettycla1p [04:21]
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mircea_popescu .d [04:34]
ozbot 6.120 billion | Next Diff in 120 blocks | Estimated Change: 13.2178% in 0d 17h 17m 59s [04:34]
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BingoBoingo ;ticker [04:43]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [04:43]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 522.3, Best ask: 525.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.70000, Last trade: 522.28, 24 hour volume: 30337.42561740, 24 hour low: 494.02, 24 hour high: 548.0, 24 hour vwap: 520.388624434 [04:43]
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TestingUnoDosTre mircea_popescu - about this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/800/bitcoin-price-above-525-before-may/ it was the other way around. I had bet at + received 1 confirmation (and bet posted to bitbet) at 23:20. The bitstamp price crossed over at 23:29 [04:48]
mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre looks like 23:00 on that graph [04:48]
TestingUnoDosTre Let me check the difference between bitcoincharts time and GMT [04:51]
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TestingUnoDosTre I had about 10 minutes before the crossover, I was watching it at the bar [04:53]
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TestingUnoDosTre Here's what I have on bitcoincharts, loaded 1 minute data 2014-04-15 23:29:00 524.51 527 521.54 527 163.8 86233.43 526.46 [04:55]
TestingUnoDosTre at 23:29, open was 524.51, close was 527 [04:55]
TestingUnoDosTre here [04:55]
TestingUnoDosTre here's my tx https://blockchain.info/address/17GnrasopAN9TKFSH88v7f3qEHbY4vkDJ3 [04:55]
TestingUnoDosTre posted to bitbet 6 minutes later [04:56]
TestingUnoDosTre this is the page I loaded data from (apologize but it has like 2 days worth of 1 minute data) http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/bitstampUSD#rg1zig1-minzczsg2014-04-16zeg2014-04-17ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv [04:57]
mircea_popescu i think you're arguing the wrong tack here. [04:59]
mircea_popescu nobody is going to go into the level of detail you need for your case. [04:59]
mircea_popescu bitbet is not a good venue to be doing this sorts of "oh but i bet x seconds before it ticked". [04:59]
mircea_popescu bet a day early and get refunded, then you got something. [04:59]
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mircea_popescu !up blackwhite [05:01]
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TestingUnoDosTre I'll back down if I must. I agree with the gist of what you're saying, but I played by the rules and it's somewhat easy to verify that I was in "on time" [05:02]
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TestingUnoDosTre There's no reason the price couldn't have swung in the opposite direction [05:04]
mircea_popescu TestingUnoDosTre well, the life of a late bettor is hard. if you get in, you get in. however, if you don't you don't, and it's the mod that makes the call. [05:04]
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TestingUnoDosTre I feel like I most definitely did get in though. But enough of this dicussion [05:05]
blackwhite hola peeps [05:05]
mircea_popescu heya [05:06]
BingoBoingo TestingUnoDosTre: Remember that BitBet has worse fates than a refund for the late. [05:06]
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TestingUnoDosTre I do understand, and that's the risk I was taking. I did bet before the event occured though... [05:07]
mircea_popescu !up elgrecoFL [05:08]
assbot Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. [05:08]
* assbot gives voice to elgrecoFL [05:08]
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joecool !up BCB [05:13]
assbot Voicing BCB for 30 minutes. [05:13]
* assbot gives voice to BCB [05:13]
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BCB thx [05:13]
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BCB anyone interested in a 25 BTC Casascius Coin [05:14]
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thestringpuller $depth mpoe [05:16]
mpexbot thestringpuller: S.MPOE Bids: ['20800 @ 0.00095321', '41904 @ 0.00095299', '6100 @ 0.00095168', '1000 @ 0.00095001', '1000 @ 0.00094501'] [05:16]
mpexbot thestringpuller: Asks: ['12200 @ 0.00095568', '15960 @ 0.00095719', '3800 @ 0.00095861', '5400 @ 0.0009597', '9188 @ 0.0009601'] [05:16]
BingoBoingo ;;rate BCB 1 Been around Bitcoin forever, investigates scamzors [05:16]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BCB has been recorded. [05:16]
BCB BingoBoingo, thanks [05:17]
BCB ;;rated BingoBoingo [05:17]
gribble You have not yet rated user BingoBoingo [05:17]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-the-past/ [05:17]
ozbot The problem of the past pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:17]
mircea_popescu peterl ^ [05:17]
mircea_popescu and everyone with a legal inclination, if you have a moment, pls to read. [05:17]
BCB BingoBoingo, still waiting for pirateat40 to go to jail! [05:18]
BingoBoingo BCB: I've seen you around forever now, but I don't think we've had occasion to interact. [05:18]
BingoBoingo BCB: I imagine he will find worse than jail [05:18]
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BCB BingoBoingo, I think he already has. WIfe left him, all his assets have been seized, He's back living in his mother's house [05:19]
BCB and he's being sued by the SEC [05:19]
BCB Life doesn't get much worse then that [05:19]
BingoBoingo BCB: There are far worse things than that. He is going to see the future he could have been a part of, but was exiled from in its infancy [05:20]
BingoBoingo Killing him would have been kinder than that [05:20]
mircea_popescu wow that's some high drama aproach right there. [05:20]
mircea_popescu tho tbh, i think the kid's exactly smart enough for that to smart. [05:21]
joecool BCB: prison rape is in the future [05:21]
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mircea_popescu this obsession with prison rape srsly. it;s like 30 cases per 100k inmates [05:22]
BingoBoingo joecool: Sphincters heal, serious regret is forever [05:22]
BCB joecool, if he goes to prison it will be some low sec location. Not much prison rape there. Lots of checkers and shuffleboard [05:22]
mircea_popescu in the us. in canada it's like 3x that. [05:22]
BCB BingoBoingo, I don't think he ever saw a future in bitcoin. He just saw it as a way to make a quick buck. He was too smart for his own good. [05:22]
joecool mircea_popescu: reported cases? canadians are probably just more shameless [05:22]
BingoBoingo BCB: It doesn't matter if he saw it then. He is doomed to see it the rest of his life. [05:23]
peterl mircea_popescu: looks like you tear apart my story just as intended. thanks. [05:23]
BingoBoingo And there is no such thing as "too smart for their own good" [05:23]
mircea_popescu joecool i dunno why someone would fail to report rape in prison. [05:23]
mircea_popescu it's a distraction. [05:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00095321 = 5.052 BTC [+] [05:24]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell peterl your signature is pretty shitty. [05:27]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:27]
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mircea_popescu !up roamfree [05:27]
assbot Voicing roamfree for 30 minutes. [05:27]
* assbot gives voice to roamfree [05:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well there is such a thing as thinking they're too smart for their own good [05:28]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot cazalla [05:28]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask cazalla!cazalla@2400:8900::f03c:91ff:fedb:949f. Trust relationship from user assbot to user cazalla: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=cazalla | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cazalla | Rated since: Tue Apr 15 22:17:43 2014 [05:28]
mircea_popescu ;;rate cazalla 1 New blood. [05:29]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. [05:29]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Sure, but such a thing is just a hypertrophic form of Dunning-Kreuger [05:29]
mircea_popescu aye [05:29]
BingoBoingo Not merely thinking one is adequate for such a thing, but thinking one was too good at such a thing to have gotten away with it. [05:31]
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joecool !ping [05:34]
joecool ;;ratingsystem viewrating assbot [05:34]
gribble Error: The "RatingSystem" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "viewrating" in it. Try "list RatingSystem" to see the commands in the "RatingSystem" plugin. [05:34]
joecool ;;ratingsystem getrating assbot [05:34]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User assbot, rated since Fri Apr 11 02:04:55 2014. Cumulative rating 26, from 9 total ratings. Received ratings: 9 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 29 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=assbot [05:34]
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elgrecoFL <+mircea_popescu> !up elgrecoFL [05:38]
elgrecoFL <@assbot> Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. [05:38]
* assbot removes voice from elgrecoFL [05:38]
mircea_popescu lol timing is everything [05:39]
mircea_popescu !up elgrecoFL [05:39]
assbot Voicing elgrecoFL for 30 minutes. [05:39]
* assbot gives voice to elgrecoFL [05:39]
elgrecoFL heh. what was that about? :) [05:39]
elgrecoFL great bot name, btw [05:39]
mircea_popescu well you got voice. [05:40]
elgrecoFL thx. did i not have voice? [05:40]
mircea_popescu nope. [05:41]
BingoBoingo ;;gettrust assbot elgrecoFL [05:42]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user elgrecoFL: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=elgrecoFL | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=elgrecoFL | Rated since: never [05:42]
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elgrecoFL well... i'm speechless :p [05:42]
BingoBoingo Were speechless [05:42]
TestingUnoDosTre that assbot is amazing [05:42]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:42]
* assbot removes voice from BCB [05:43]
* assbot gives voice to benkay [05:44]
mircea_popescu the amazing times and feats of assbot, the amazing ass bot. [05:44]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:44]
elgrecoFL heh [05:44]
* assbot gives voice to benkay [05:44]
elgrecoFL lets see if ozbot speaks in this channel [05:44]
elgrecoFL stupid bot [05:44]
ozbot Gamisou re malaka! [05:44]
elgrecoFL wewt [05:44]
mircea_popescu haha wut [05:45]
mircea_popescu stupid bot [05:45]
ozbot Gamisou re malaka! [05:45]
mircea_popescu til. [05:45]
elgrecoFL he speaks greek [05:45]
elgrecoFL well, curses in greek [05:45]
BingoBoingo !up BCB [05:45]
assbot Voicing BCB for 30 minutes. [05:45]
* assbot gives voice to BCB [05:45]
mircea_popescu who was running ozbot ? scrat ? [05:45]
BingoBoingo BCB: You should be able to self voice nao [05:45]
BCB BingoBoingo, I'm cool authed now. Thx [05:45]
BCB ;;voiceme [05:45]
elgrecoFL mircea_popescu: jezzz [05:45]
mircea_popescu ah [05:46]
joecool unlike gribble [05:46]
elgrecoFL well, he wrote it anyway [05:46]
joecool ;;rated gribble [05:46]
gribble You rated user gribble on Sun Mar 2 22:05:31 2014, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: knows damn right who I am. [05:46]
BingoBoingo BCB: The method here is PM'ing assbot !up [05:46]
BCB ahh ok. thx [05:46]
joecool ;;whoami [05:46]
gribble I don't recognize you. [05:46]
joecool -_- [05:46]
BCB ;;whoami [05:46]
gribble I don't recognize you. [05:46]
BCB fucker [05:46]
mircea_popescu ;;whosurmom [05:46]
gribble Error: "whosurmom" is not a valid command. [05:46]
BCB !up [05:46]
assbot Need a nickname, BCB. [05:46]
BingoBoingo !up Periscope [05:46]
assbot Voicing Periscope for 30 minutes. [05:46]
BCB whoami [05:47]
BCB ;;whoami [05:47]
gribble I don't recognize you. [05:47]
BingoBoingo Plain !up works in PM, !up nick works in channel [05:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00095321 = 4.0988 BTC [+] [05:48]
benkay one can also /msg assbot !up [05:50]
benkay dat one-liner [05:50]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell PeterL what key did you sign that pastebin with anyway ?! [05:50]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:50]
thestringpuller lolol [05:52]
mircea_popescu later all! [05:55]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [11:52]
* [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp [11:52]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [11:52]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [11:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9227 @ 0.00095329 = 8.796 BTC [-] [12:02]
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mircea_popescu benkay: wish i got to do not much ;) << the real mark of being rich. [12:08]
kakobrekla they why the fuck are you telling me the work is its own reward [12:11]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete yeah, and bitcoin forum investment always gets better, it never gets worse. [12:11]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:11]
kakobrekla then* [12:11]
mircea_popescu o look who's here! yo kako! [12:11]
kakobrekla hi [12:11]
fluffypony mircea_popescu :) [12:11]
mircea_popescu ima go pick up mike and then have a drink with you two [12:11]
mircea_popescu mpoe-pr was saying she's gonna show up too [12:12]
kakobrekla when is this happening? [12:12]
mircea_popescu coupla hours. [12:12]
kakobrekla aha [12:13]
mircea_popescu gee, don't sound so excited :D [12:13]
kakobrekla lol well i have been in the bar now for some time, if you gonna be couple of hrs i might change my drinks. [12:14]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: well, its good in the sense they did open the bar, its bad that im alone :) << geeks. travel with girlfriend, to new town, still is alone. 4EVER ALONE! [12:15]
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kakobrekla lol [12:15]
kakobrekla lampelina stayed at home. :| [12:15]
mircea_popescu lampelina any purses left in town or didja store them all in the hotel vault ? [12:15]
mircea_popescu ahahah what! [12:15]
kakobrekla lol [12:16]
* kakobrekla hides. [12:16]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla so go pick up someone. [12:16]
kakobrekla nah is no biggie, i like being alone really. [12:16]
mircea_popescu if all else fails, ask the reception desk for the massage salon and ask the girls there where they keep the girlfriends. [12:16]
kakobrekla lol [12:16]
* mircea_popescu was being serious that time. [12:16]
kakobrekla i know :| [12:17]
kakobrekla :D [12:17]
mircea_popescu well anyway, sucks, i was looking forward to meeting your other boss. [12:17]
kakobrekla lel [12:17]
mircea_popescu jurov: looks like not <<< he sounds.... disappointed ?! [12:18]
kakobrekla well you know you are welcome to visit .si [12:18]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i'll tell you honestly what happened. [12:18]
mircea_popescu i tried. like 5 times. [12:18]
kakobrekla liex [12:18]
kakobrekla lies [12:18]
mircea_popescu i keep ending up in austria, hungary, austria [12:18]
kakobrekla lol [12:18]
mircea_popescu it's like... uncanny [12:18]
mircea_popescu can't stop the car fast enough [12:18]
kakobrekla did ya miss the left turn? [12:18]
mircea_popescu who the fuck is isec [12:19]
jurov "looks like not" made impression i don't want to come? [12:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00096205 = 12.1218 BTC [+] [12:19]
mircea_popescu also kakobrekla since you're alone and have internet, please work :D [12:19]
mircea_popescu jurov a no, just, made the impression you were hoping for something serious [12:19]
jurov lol [12:19]
kakobrekla i am! bbet banner is up, mails were replied to. [12:20]
mircea_popescu "maybe it's typhoid!" [12:20]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yay! [12:20]
kakobrekla ;) [12:20]
mircea_popescu i guess you can have a new drink on me then :D [12:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6721 @ 0.00096185 = 6.4646 BTC [-] {2} [12:20]
kakobrekla ill take it! [12:20]
jurov and thx for the double room, but wao already made arrangements [12:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, going to get my cocked sucked, then get dressed, cya later all! [12:20]
jurov or maybe i'll abduct someone else >:] [12:21]
kakobrekla call me if im not in a hotel ill be near mircea_popescu [12:21]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla what, your cell works here ? [12:21]
kakobrekla it shouldnt? [12:22]
mircea_popescu i have no idea. anyway! laters. [12:22]
kakobrekla later [12:22]
fluffypony kakobrekla: I must've missed this, but where are you and what for? [12:22]
jurov http://trilema.com/2013/the-conference-second-edition [12:23]
ozbot The conference, second edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [12:23]
jurov fluffypony this ^ [12:23]
fluffypony tks [12:23]
jurov i'm going too [12:23]
kakobrekla fluffypony in the bar, to have drinks. [12:23]
jurov 1. drink 2. work 3. drink moar ... profit! [12:24]
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fluffypony very cool [12:32]
fluffypony maybe next year the wife and I will go visit the in-laws in Germany and then come through for that [12:32]
Naphex pff [12:33]
Naphex hey mircea_popescu meeting is going on in timisoara? [12:33]
kakobrekla yes [12:33]
* fluffypony contemplates a Romanian holiday [12:34]
Naphex TM, is a 2 hour drive [12:35]
Naphex from here / Oradea [12:35]
fluffypony Naphex: what parts of Romania do you recommend seeing if we had to holiday there? [12:36]
Naphex fluffypony: tbh no idea, i spend most my holidays going somewhere else :)) [12:36]
fluffypony lol [12:36]
fluffypony come to South Africa on holiday [12:36]
fluffypony it's beautiful here [12:36]
Naphex hehe i bet :) [12:37]
Naphex there'se probably lots of stuff to visit, but i can't recommend much :) my last holiday in romania was when i was 13-14 or something [12:37]
Naphex like that [12:37]
kakobrekla romania reminds me of bosnia tbh. [12:38]
kakobrekla mp is gonna be mad when he reads this but its is what it is. [12:38]
kakobrekla all thats missing is bullet holes in the buildings [12:38]
Naphex well, atleast we got potholes [12:39]
Naphex to make it up [12:39]
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kakobrekla a few years back there were still holes from grenades in sarajevo [12:39]
kakobrekla on the road. [12:39]
kakobrekla prolly fixed by now [12:40]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [23:33]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [23:33]
* assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu [23:33]
mircea_popescu peterl two things. one is that you're using 1024 bytes which is weak. get a 4096 [23:34]
mircea_popescu the other is that signature reads out 4467A7237ADAB076. benkay has the details. [23:34]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla hey there >D [23:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00097636 = 18.5508 BTC [+] {2} [23:36]
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chairman_meow 1024 is predicted to be broken by 2020 [23:37]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bitcoinpete til tatiana moroz lol [23:37]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:37]
chairman_meow i mean we already broke 768 [23:37]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:38]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 501.13, Best ask: 503.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.87000, Last trade: 503.0, 24 hour volume: 22144.44984103, 24 hour low: 481.63, 24 hour high: 537.24, 24 hour vwap: 506.489030396 [23:38]
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mircea_popescu o look at that, garcia marquez croaked. [23:40]
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nubbins` what? [23:40]
nubbins` i was talking about him like two days ago [23:40]
mircea_popescu prolly what did it. [23:41]
kakobrekla o hey you are fast mp [23:41]
nubbins` no doubt :( [23:42]
nubbins` shame [23:42]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla faster than a speedin' bullet. [23:42]
nubbins` guy wrote beautiful prose [23:42]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551698.0 [23:42]
ozbot [IPO Launch April 16 2014] Symmetric Step Trading [23:42]
mircea_popescu "Flight attendant informs me electrical outlets don't work when the "Fasten Seatbelt" sign is on. Explains, "The plane was made in Canada."" [23:43]
kakobrekla lol, we saw this we saw that herp derp we will not come to -assets. [23:43]
mircea_popescu "The two Symmetric Step partners have been "lurkers" on this forum since mid 2013. " [23:43]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu they are too big for wot! [23:43]
mircea_popescu "We profit from disparities in the demand curves for bitcoins on separate cryptocurrency exchanges." [23:43]
mircea_popescu this is such a novel idea that worked out so well for all the previous experts. [23:43]
mircea_popescu i hope they at least offer 7% a week. [23:44]
kakobrekla lol [23:44]
mircea_popescu jesus i have a huge pile of news here. [23:44]
mircea_popescu http://www.technologyreview.com/view/526726/broad-institute-gets-patent-on-revolutionary-gene-editing-method/ [23:44]
ozbot Broad Institute Gets Patent on Revolutionary Gene-Editing Method | MIT Technology Review [23:44]
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nubbins` they make planes in canada? :D [23:46]
mircea_popescu where do you think all those beercans go [23:46]
nubbins` wait, bombardier [23:46]
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nubbins` also avro arrow, RIP [23:47]
mircea_popescu i thought bombardier made train cars. [23:47]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://stats.bitcoin-assets.com/ as you can see, us shutting up is actually beneficial. [23:49]
nubbins` all types of stuff [23:49]
kakobrekla fine, ill just ban the conference attendance. [23:50]
mircea_popescu benkay: i imagine they'd not be able to !up any more. << this should be tested. [23:50]
mircea_popescu who has a +1 in the assbot wot and volunteers for a little experiment ? [23:50]
cgcardona_ awwww yea I'm in the top 20 for the last 7 days! (not sure if this is a good thing or not) [23:50]
nubbins` mostly prop planes, i think [23:50]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot cgcardona_ [23:50]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask cgcardona_!~cgcardona@cpe-75-85-131-223.hawaii.res.rr.com. Trust relationship from user assbot to user cgcardona_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=cgcardona_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cgcardona_ | Rated since: Sat Apr 12 18:04:35 2014 [23:50]
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mircea_popescu cgcardona_ listen, im going to negrate you. then you part channel, join it again and try to up yourself with assbot. [23:51]
mircea_popescu k ? [23:51]
cgcardona_ sure [23:51]
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mircea_popescu ;;rated cgcardona_ [23:51]
gribble You have not yet rated user cgcardona_ [23:51]
cgcardona_ when I reenter should do I need to reauth w/ gribble first [23:51]
mircea_popescu ;;rate cgcardona_ -5 testing assbot [23:51]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -5 for user cgcardona_ has been recorded. [23:51]
mircea_popescu cgcardona_ prolly not [23:51]
cgcardona_ test [23:51]
cgcardona_ ok i'll try [23:51]
cgcardona_ brb [23:51]
mircea_popescu you gotta part to lose voice first [23:51]
cgcardona_ ok [23:51]
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nubbins` wow [23:51]
kakobrekla depends if you and gribble have another common channel [23:52]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu: according to these stats, you don't shut up :D [23:52]
kakobrekla if you dont, you need to reath [23:52]
kakobrekla reauth [23:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` this is true. [23:52]
mircea_popescu cgcardona_ did it work ? (pm) [23:52]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot cgcardona_ [23:53]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user cgcardona_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=cgcardona_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=cgcardona_ | Rated since: Sat Apr 12 18:04:35 2014 [23:53]
mircea_popescu meh [23:53]
kakobrekla it went down just one point!? [23:53]
mircea_popescu yes cause assbot trusts us to 1 [23:53]
* assbot gives voice to cgcardona_ [23:53]
cgcardona_ mircea_popescu: sorry dude. had to reauth w/ gribble. [23:54]
mircea_popescu aha kk. [23:54]
mircea_popescu ;;unrate cgcardona_ [23:54]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for cgcardona_. [23:54]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla max of -1 passed cause assbot trust is 1 [23:54]
kakobrekla seems weird [23:54]
mircea_popescu notrly, it's how it works. [23:55]
mircea_popescu cgcardona_ thanks for halping. [23:55]
cgcardona_ np [23:55]
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kakobrekla then how it works is weird. [23:55]
mircea_popescu whai ? [23:55]
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kakobrekla im not sure [23:56]
mircea_popescu scam. [23:56]
kakobrekla the logic does not seem apparent [23:57]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla a l2 connection can not pass more trust (either + or -) than the l1 connection. [23:57]
mircea_popescu if i trust you worth a 5, people you trust are worth to me up to 5, from +5 to -5 [23:57]
kakobrekla O_O [23:57]
kakobrekla now you are just making stuff up [23:58]
kakobrekla why da fuck would +5 limit negative to -5 [23:58]
kakobrekla this is wrong. [23:58]
mircea_popescu why ? [23:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16750 @ 0.00097687 = 16.3626 BTC [+] {2} [23:58]
kakobrekla so a +1 will limit negative to -1 ? [23:59]
mircea_popescu i think this is cannonical wot. [23:59]
mircea_popescu yes. [23:59]
cgcardona_ but can't you just always rate someone directly w/ a +/- 1 ? [23:59]
kakobrekla how is this better over leaving it to go to -10 [23:59]
cgcardona_ my point being if you're limited by what you can rate based on it being a l2 connection [23:59]
cgcardona_ can't you just make it a l1 connection and rate them directly? [23:59]
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