Forum logs for 16 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

pgp	whoa	[00:00]
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Bugpowder	81	[00:00]
Bugpowder	is coming	[00:00]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:00]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 82.23450, Best ask: 83.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.76550, Last trade: 82.23450, 24 hour volume: 172174.43696469, 24 hour low: 83.12000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 92.56464	[00:00]
thestringpuller	itss hit 90 overnight	[00:00]
thestringpuller	just you see	[00:00]
Bugpowder	There will be bounces	[00:01]
Bugpowder	short lived pathetic little things	[00:01]
Bugpowder	so unlike the bounces of yesteryear	[00:01]
pgp	we'll see - off to get a drink - will have to monitor situation from cell phone (blows)	[00:01]
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orkaa	btw, anyone got a nexus 4?	[00:02]
orkaa	mine just doesn't like the mtgox app	[00:02]
orkaa	crashes on startup	[00:03]
kakobrekla	huh	[00:03]
kakobrekla	mtgox qualitat	[00:03]
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ThickAsThieves	even the bounces are almost gone	[00:04]
Bugpowder	thats becuase the selloff's haven't gotten violent enough. yet.	[00:04]
Bugpowder	If we drop to 50 there will be a bounce	[00:05]
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Bugpowder	every bounce with a lower high	[00:06]
Bugpowder	every dip a lower low	[00:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.37 = 0.74 BTC [+]	[00:10]
Bugpowder	http://bcove.me/qwi5k6ap	[00:10]
Bugpowder	video of the bombing	[00:10]
Bugpowder	;;bids 0	[00:11]
gribble	There are currently 49607416 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12514542.8959 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0087 seconds	[00:11]
Bugpowder	;;asks 99999999999	[00:11]
gribble	There are currently 161806.29 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 125033136860.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 2.8288 seconds	[00:11]
taub	this is more like it	[00:13]
taub	:D	[00:13]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:15]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 82.20000, Best ask: 82.39999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 82.40000, 24 hour volume: 181286.53123402, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.99549	[00:15]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:16]
taub	mtgox humming along nicely	[00:16]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 82.00000, Best ask: 82.23300, Bid-ask spread: 0.23300, Last trade: 85.07394, 24 hour volume: 181765.32662977, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.96967	[00:16]
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taub	why no lag suddenly?!?! maybe they finally released the brakes...	[00:16]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:17]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 82.46070, Best ask: 82.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03930, Last trade: 82.50000, 24 hour volume: 182869.62756165, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.91353	[00:17]
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ThickAsThieves	sdice rallying pretty hard	[00:19]
Bugpowdurr	no surprise there	[00:20]
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Bugpowdurr	but that will only be supported if betting volume actually picks up	[00:20]
Bugpowdurr	and buy back in lower	[00:20]
Bugpowdurr	I would rather cash out of coins	[00:20]
Bugpowdurr	and then move to s.dice when bet volume is shown to be up again	[00:20]
ThickAsThieves	i guess it depends where it lands	[00:20]
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Bugpowdurr	people are front-running S.DICE	[00:21]
Bugpowdurr	and it's low volume	[00:21]
Bugpowdurr	its not a bad idea	[00:21]
Bugpowdurr	but not a home run either	[00:21]
thestringpuller	Bugpowdurr: you done with btc?	[00:21]
Bugpowdurr	hell no	[00:22]
Bugpowdurr	no	[00:22]
Bugpowdurr	I just want more	[00:22]
thestringpuller	lol	[00:22]
jborkl	bid ask gox 88 81	[00:23]
jborkl	nm	[00:23]
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Bugpowdeer	I will buy the winkelvoxen's stack when they capitulate	[00:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00071101 = 6.8257 BTC [-]	[00:24]
Bugpowdeer	btw - got some c302t's on the market, CHEEP!	[00:24]
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ThickAsThieves	hehe	[00:26]
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thestringpuller	;;next	[00:26]
gribble	expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 2 hours, 43 minutes, and 17 seconds ago	[00:26]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:26]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 82.00001, Best ask: 82.21000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20999, Last trade: 82.00001, 24 hour volume: 184460.54915531, 24 hour low: 81.11000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 91.82169	[00:26]
ThickAsThieves	I have some O.USD.P089T	[00:26]
thestringpuller	;;bids 80	[00:27]
gribble	There are currently 6374.6862 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 513716.693315 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0041 seconds	[00:27]
thestringpuller	;;asks 90	[00:27]
gribble	There are currently 10789.73 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 939197.07045 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 7.8740 seconds	[00:27]
jurov	;;bc,stats	[00:27]
gribble	Current Blocks: 231525 \| Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 \| Next Difficulty In: 314 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 20 hours, 4 minutes, and 12 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 8928892.15082 \| Estimated Percent Change: 16.36768	[00:27]
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taub	pop pop pop	[00:43]
jborkl	uh oh	[00:43]
taub	omg lol those sells	[00:43]
taub	cooldown imminent	[00:44]
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pizzaman1337	;;ticker	[00:49]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 76.40000, Best ask: 76.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 76.48000, 24 hour volume: 202039.77755624, 24 hour low: 76.00000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72171	[00:49]
pgp2	wow	[00:49]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]	[00:51]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[00:51]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 78.00000, Best ask: 78.75000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75000, Last trade: 78.75000, 24 hour volume: 202039.77755624, 24 hour low: 76.00000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 90.72171	[00:51]
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Scrat	;;title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ku1A5Ox8U	[00:52]
gribble	Blame it on MT.GOX - YouTube	[00:52]
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taub	BTC bought: [tid:1366062491912230] 12.00000000 BTC at $76.10000	[00:53]
taub	BTC sold: [tid:1366062708031449] 9.15686140 BTC at $79.00000	[00:53]
taub	quick scalp :3c	[00:53]
Namworld	yeah	[00:53]
Namworld	with so much movements, easy to flip for a few USD	[00:54]
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error4733	;;next	[00:58]
gribble	expecting to test 93, then to test 98 if 93 breaks, then testing 100 and targetting 103-105 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 18:43 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 54 seconds ago	[00:58]
pgp2	lol	[00:59]
jurov	all so unreal... since 9 April till today went travelling without access to my own mpex account, figured that won't be problem	[01:00]
jurov	of course, mayhem ensues in exactly that time frame	[01:00]
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taub	http://krautchan.net/files/1366062103001.jpg	[01:01]
error4733	!bids 69.9	[01:02]
error4733	!bids 69.9	[01:03]
error4733	;;ticker	[01:03]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 72.00000, Best ask: 72.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.90000, Last trade: 72.90000, 24 hour volume: 215607.09679741, 24 hour low: 73.31000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 89.77153	[01:03]
Scrat	;;bids 69.9	[01:03]
gribble	There are currently 17121.238 bitcoins demanded at or over 69.9 USD, worth 1234402.44978 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 47.0863 seconds	[01:03]
Scrat	oh shit	[01:04]
jcpham	;;market sell 10000	[01:04]
gribble	A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 732027.7637 USD and would take the last price down to 71.5100 USD, resulting in an average price of 73.2028 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 103.7943 seconds	[01:04]
taub	looks like we're goign for 40	[01:04]
error4733	i use to pm gribble, it's confusing !bids work	[01:04]
taub	er, 50	[01:04]
kakobrekla	yes 50 before 40	[01:06]
pizzaman1337	;;goxlag	[01:06]
gribble	MtGox lag is 1.852667 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00371272392451 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).	[01:06]
Namworld	MtGox really fixed the lag good	[01:07]
joecool	lol	[01:07]
Namworld	No more 300-30000 seconds of lag on panic buy/sell	[01:07]
Namworld	I ranges from 0-10 second	[01:07]
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error4733	satoshi kid's play with his wallet	[01:11]
b0n1	haha ;)	[01:13]
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Bugpow	;;bids 0	[01:19]
gribble	There are currently 49577235 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11076918.2758 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0122 seconds	[01:19]
Bugpow	;;asks 999999999	[01:19]
gribble	There are currently 163292.17 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3921203220.22 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 2.6129 seconds	[01:19]
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Bugpow	;;asks 100	[01:20]
gribble	There are currently 35249.319 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 3244397.7273 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 45.8733 seconds	[01:20]
Bugpow	kiss 100 goodbye	[01:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 17 @ 0.48399999 = 8.228 BTC [+]	[01:21]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3600 @ 0.00071199 = 2.5632 BTC [+]	[01:21]
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KRS1	are there options for short?	[01:23]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.899 = 4.495 BTC [+]	[01:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0006 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[01:31]
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thestringpuller	!ticker m s.mpoe	[01:35]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00067807 / 0.00069653 / 0.00071199 (321008 shares, 223.59 BTC), 7D: 0.00065356 / 0.00069955 / 0.000735 (2738441 shares, 1,915.70 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.0006853 / 0.00077505 (9950306 shares, 6,818.95 BTC)	[01:35]
Bugpowder	nice little bounce here	[01:36]
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Bugpowder	glad my friends will be able to get out above 80	[01:36]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.895 BTC [-]	[01:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89 = 1.78 BTC [-]	[01:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3213 @ 0.00071004 = 2.2814 BTC [-]	[01:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87021 BTC [-]	[01:45]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3401 @ 0.00071004 = 2.4148 BTC [-]	[01:48]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[01:52]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 77.21200, Best ask: 77.21210, Bid-ask spread: 0.00010, Last trade: 77.21210, 24 hour volume: 235487.22898511, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.89123	[01:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8702 BTC [-]	[01:53]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10179 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00071199 = 1.424 BTC [+]	[01:59]
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deadweasel	that remains to be seen	[02:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.22 BTC [+]	[02:08]
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ThickAsThieves	scraped another 42btc out of stocks and sold above 80	[02:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 5 @ 0.0016 = 0.008 BTC [-]	[02:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7251 @ 0.00070461 = 5.1091 BTC [-]	[02:16]
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jurov	got btctalk PM with disguised link to proxy to get my password	[02:16]
jurov	wonder how many users will fall for it	[02:17]
Doffx	Hell I am always afraid I will fall for one	[02:17]
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Namworld	I want to scrape BTC out of my stocks too	[02:18]
Doffx	why would you want to sell it now? Think its going much lower?	[02:18]
Bugpowder	Sell the bounces	[02:18]
Bugpowder	bounce back to 87 is pretty likely. 94 plausible. 100 unlikely.	[02:18]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[02:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 83.70000, Best ask: 83.71000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 83.71000, 24 hour volume: 228798.11579488, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.58152	[02:18]
jurov	;;eightball bounce	[02:18]
gribble	Yes!	[02:18]
jurov	yay	[02:18]
thestringpuller	Bugpowder: you are supposed to be neural scientist	[02:19]
thestringpuller	not hedgefund man	[02:19]
thestringpuller	;;seen smickles	[02:19]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 7 hours, 37 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm	[02:19]
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ThickAsThieves	stringpuller, still getting goxed by smickles?	[02:21]
ThickAsThieves	getting smickled?	[02:22]
ThickAsThieves	most of the btc i got out was bonds i had with Deprived, he bought them back from me like a champ	[02:22]
Bugpowder	he is the only non bitcoin-assets guy with half a brain	[02:23]
Bugpowder	actually he is full brain	[02:23]
thestringpuller	smickles is like overwhelmed doing people's taxes for btc	[02:24]
thestringpuller	likely*	[02:24]
Namworld	Deprived has a bond?	[02:24]
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jurov	hehe i made him once-a-lifetime offer to license coinbr code for 90BTC	[02:25]
jurov	he refused	[02:25]
jurov	shrugs	[02:25]
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ThickAsThieves	yes LTC ATF	[02:27]
ThickAsThieves	has bonds	[02:27]
ThickAsThieves	LTC ATF B1	[02:27]
ThickAsThieves	denominated in btc	[02:27]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[02:29]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 79.10000, Best ask: 79.57928, Bid-ask spread: 0.47928, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 231528.75561906, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.45454	[02:29]
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thestringpuller	too many speculatrs :(	[02:30]
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Bugpow	do we get one more bounce up here?	[02:33]
Bugpow	or back to tankage?	[02:33]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[02:33]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 80.63830, Best ask: 80.65190, Bid-ask spread: 0.01360, Last trade: 78.80000, 24 hour volume: 234374.31191872, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.29248	[02:33]
thestringpuller	maybe	[02:33]
pgp	nice to see a little volume coming back into the market...	[02:34]
Bugpow	huge volume	[02:34]
pgp	down from here I think	[02:34]
Bugpow	Well my friends have another 600BTC on the way to gox	[02:34]
pgp	we got our dead cat bounce already	[02:34]
Bugpow	for dumpage	[02:34]
Scrat	i seriously think that volume figure is bogus	[02:35]
Bugpow	why?	[02:35]
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pgp	scrat: why?	[02:35]
Bugpow	There are serious bids and asks getting destroyed right now	[02:36]
pgp	right	[02:36]
Bugpow	this is actually the highest volume period ever, excluding the free 48 hour period	[02:36]
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pgp	yes, i noticed that too	[02:36]
Bugpow	40,000 BTC / hr	[02:36]
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pgp	;;next	[02:38]
gribble	buy targets: 74, 68, 54 \| upper target 85-88, reversal up if we stay above 85 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 15 2013, 22:54 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 44 minutes and 29 seconds ago	[02:38]
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pgp	;;eightball $32 bitcoin?	[02:39]
gribble	It shall be.	[02:39]
pgp	i KNEW it	[02:39]
pgp	bids are evapotaing...	[02:40]
Bugpow	now OneFixt is talking some sense	[02:40]
pgp	evaporating..	[02:40]
Bugpow	too bad he told you that AFTER it dumped	[02:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13999 BTC [+]	[02:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 15 @ 0.14 = 2.1 BTC [+]	[02:41]
OneFixt	Bugpow: i stepped out for an hour =(	[02:41]
Bugpow	ha!	[02:41]
OneFixt	one hour in like 2 weeks	[02:41]
OneFixt	and bam	[02:41]
Bugpow	;;bids 0	[02:42]
gribble	There are currently 49590076 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11742910.623 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0078 seconds	[02:42]
Bugpow	;;asks 99999999999	[02:42]
gribble	There are currently 150494.7 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 125027833971.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 10.6874 seconds	[02:42]
Bugpow	coins for sale going down	[02:42]
pgp	sell the bounce!	[02:43]
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pgp	man, a LOT of coin sloshing around...	[02:44]
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pgp	low lag is such a novelty...	[02:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.484 BTC [+]	[02:45]
Bugpow	MONEY NEVER SLEEPS	[02:45]
Bugpow	they must have upgraded their servers actually	[02:45]
Bugpow	otherwise lagged out	[02:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 6 @ 0.00159 = 0.0095 BTC [-]	[02:46]
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pgp	3day chart on bitcoinity tells the story in no uncertain terms... lower lows and lower highs...	[02:46]
pgp	you could almost set your watch to it...	[02:47]
pgp	they did upgrade their severs during the "cool down"...	[02:47]
pgp	problem was that they came back up with "free" trading for 2 days which killed them...	[02:48]
Bugpow	nice bidwall now	[02:48]
Bugpow	very happy my friends are going to get out above 80	[02:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.484 = 1.936 BTC [+]	[02:49]
pgp	PSA - sell the bounce!	[02:49]
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ThickAsThieves	CampBX got a new logo	[02:54]
ThickAsThieves	it's not bad but kinda outta place with the site design	[02:54]
ThickAsThieves	https://campbx.com/main.php	[02:55]
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wences	;;goxlag	[03:03]
gribble	MtGox lag is 1.143437 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00229143494544 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin across the outer diameter of Saturn's rings (0.0024 AU).	[03:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00439999 = 4.4 BTC [+]	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[03:05]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 83.47901, Best ask: 83.48000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00099, Last trade: 83.47900, 24 hour volume: 235906.16414531, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 87.05151	[03:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00070866 = 2.1614 BTC [+]	[03:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18617 BTC [-]	[03:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.17 = 0.51 BTC [-]	[03:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.152 BTC [-]	[03:25]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 347 @ 0.00070461 = 0.2445 BTC [-]	[03:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3498 @ 0.00069916 = 2.4457 BTC [-]	[03:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.41 = 0.82 BTC [+]	[03:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9084 @ 0.0006988 = 6.3479 BTC [-]	[03:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6709 @ 0.00069835 = 4.6852 BTC [-]	[03:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.871 BTC [+]	[03:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8707 BTC [-]	[03:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.87 BTC [-]	[03:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.86 = 2.58 BTC [-]	[03:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.83 = 4.15 BTC [-]	[03:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8261 BTC [-]	[03:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.826 BTC [-]	[03:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.826 BTC [-]	[03:31]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.00428 = 0.0128 BTC [+]	[03:32]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3091 @ 0.00069835 = 2.1586 BTC [-]	[03:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7259 @ 0.00069763 = 5.0641 BTC [-]	[03:36]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.41 = 2.46 BTC [+]	[04:03]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8709 BTC [+]	[04:05]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 17 @ 0.01 = 0.17 BTC [+]	[04:08]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.10179 = 0.509 BTC [+]	[04:15]
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pgp	it is QUIET in here... are those crickets i hear?	[04:18]
kakobrekla	tubleweed	[04:19]
kakobrekla	tumble*	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	stubbleweed lol	[04:19]
Bugpowdurr	i'll be back in a bit	[04:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 10 @ 0.00159 = 0.0159 BTC [-]	[04:22]
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pgp	you know, I really wish all charting products offered logarithmic scales... especially for volatile assets...	[04:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 1.22 = 6.1 BTC [+]	[04:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [+]	[04:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.22 = 4.88 BTC [+]	[04:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 3 @ 1.22 = 3.66 BTC [+]	[04:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [-]	[04:35]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[04:41]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 73.20000, Best ask: 74.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 74.00000, 24 hour volume: 244430.28357478, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 86.06528	[04:41]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[04:41]
gribble	86.18	[04:41]
thestringpuller	jurov:	[04:41]
thestringpuller	where is you	[04:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.88999 BTC [+]	[04:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.89 = 5.34 BTC [+]	[04:42]
KRS1	somebody's fixin to buy $14K of litecoins	[04:43]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.49 = 0.98 BTC [+]	[04:43]
KRS1	actually $15K	[04:43]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[04:43]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 74.43000, Best ask: 74.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.47000, Last trade: 74.95000, 24 hour volume: 246451.24074112, 24 hour low: 71.51000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 85.94777	[04:43]
thestringpuller	;;next	[04:43]
gribble	74-80 range \| buy targets: 74, 68, 54 \| resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 1:06 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 37 minutes and 35 seconds ago	[04:43]
KRS1	that thing accurate?	[04:44]
thestringpuller	this is not investment or trading advice <<<<< what do you think?	[04:44]
KRS1	thats different than the tool being accurate	[04:44]
thestringpuller	it's not a tool a guy updates it	[04:45]
thestringpuller	every so often	[04:45]
KRS1	it was a simple question, didnt ask if it was good advice just if it was accurate or not	[04:45]
KRS1	chill	[04:45]
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thestringpuller	It's like a weather forecast...	[04:46]
KRS1	ok cool i understand those pretty well..thanks-	[04:47]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[04:47]
gribble	86.00	[04:47]
thestringpuller	stop being such a meanie	[04:48]
thestringpuller	;;seen smickles	[04:49]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm	[04:49]
splnkr	way to look, glad i heard that idea	[04:51]
thestringpuller	?	[04:52]
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splnkr	bitcoin atm isn't just for getting money out of your account, but also for transferring it to anyone else	[04:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.46 = 2.76 BTC [-]	[04:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.36500018 = 0.73 BTC [-]	[05:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.049 = 4.196 BTC [-]	[05:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.66110001 BTC [-]	[05:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 4 @ 1.6611 = 6.6444 BTC [-]	[05:10]
pgp	getting kinda frothy out there!	[05:15]
ThickAsThieves	whatcha mean?	[05:17]
pgp	pick up in volume, large market orders order on both side... market trying to decide which way it wants to go...	[05:18]
pgp	kinda like my kids splashing around in the bathtub... frothy...	[05:19]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[05:20]
ThickAsThieves	nice time to play	[05:21]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00070213 = 9.6192 BTC [+]	[05:22]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071199 = 0.356 BTC [+]	[05:22]
kakobrekla	well the gold chart makes me feel better	[05:23]
kakobrekla	i guess another trait of slovenes	[05:24]
kakobrekla	should be added to definition of sloveny	[05:24]
pgp	lol	[05:25]
pgp	ok, so we're at 75... poll: were are we at 24 hours from now?	[05:28]
ThickAsThieves	65	[05:28]
KRS1	thanks to you fine people i know a bit more than i did about Slovenia and how embarrased i was to confuse it with Somalia..especially geographically.	[05:28]
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pgp	krs1: lol	[05:29]
kakobrekla	thanks to our PM id rather be in somalia	[05:29]
mircea_popescu	ahahaha somalia	[05:29]
KRS1	=(	[05:29]
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joecool	mircea_popescu: how's romania?	[05:30]
KRS1	Many Americans are ignorant about other countries, ours is so big many cant even name all of our states.	[05:30]
mircea_popescu	sorta 50 miles east of somalia.	[05:30]
joecool	mircea_popescu: it's sorta a non-popular country to see on IRC	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	orly ?	[05:31]
joecool	yeah	[05:31]
pgp	in case you didn't know, the balkan mafia runs this channel	[05:31]
KRS1	I do know a few things about Romania.	[05:31]
kakobrekla	lol	[05:31]
mircea_popescu	there;'s evenb a freenode romanian server what arte you talkin' about	[05:31]
KRS1	Any tourist destinations there for the Dracul interests?	[05:31]
joecool	yeah I know there is, I VPN there too, i assumed it was because you don't have laws or something	[05:32]
mircea_popescu	we just don't have american nazism.	[05:32]
ThickAsThieves	you mean romanians dont hate americans?	[05:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89 = 3.56 BTC [+]	[05:33]
joecool	i'm assuming romanians know more about americans than americans know about romanians	[05:33]
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ThickAsThieves	romanians probly know more about americans than americans know about americans, we dumb	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	well... they think they do at the very least.	[05:34]
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pgp	curiously, I have a trio of romanian developers who have worked for me for 8 years... sponsored 2 of them for h1b's... we joke about romanians in my offic all he time... in a nice way, of course...	[05:35]
joecool	ask an american what they think of romania, the answer will probably be around the lines of "isn't that a place where gypsies and wizards roam around?"	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	gypsies kinda all left for france.	[05:35]
ThickAsThieves	my only impression of romania is that video mp showed of dudes fucking with the kid who stole the bike	[05:35]
KRS1	joecool: u are probably right	[05:35]
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ThickAsThieves	like some kinda eurpoean bronx	[05:36]
pgp	transylvania - that's what americans know about romania	[05:36]
joecool	mircea_popescu: i thought france was a muslim country now	[05:36]
KRS1	pgp was spot on	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	no that's the uk.	[05:36]
KRS1	and the weather is always dreadful	[05:36]
mircea_popescu	well... i'm from transylvania actually.	[05:36]
ThickAsThieves	i like dreadful weather	[05:36]
ThickAsThieves	rain	[05:37]
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KRS1	mircea popescu: i bet you can pull some bitches too	[05:37]
orkaa	it's finally improving here in eu	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	it's not dreadful. it's sort of like hm... virginia maybe.	[05:37]
KRS1	like a tow truck	[05:37]
orkaa	after 8 months of winter	[05:37]
orkaa	brr	[05:37]
joecool	well would be worse, canada is mostly cold and snow	[05:37]
ThickAsThieves	virginia has distinctive weather?	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	kinda my point.	[05:37]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[05:37]
pgp	mp: how much time did you spend abroad? did you live in the US?	[05:37]
kakobrekla	sure only 8 moths of winter, wasnt there like 14?	[05:37]
KRS1	lol joecool wizards and gypsies lol yep	[05:38]
ThickAsThieves	were you born in a vampire castle?	[05:38]
KRS1	I am not far from Miami, FL we have a lot of culture here	[05:38]
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ThickAsThieves	culture = lotsa spaniards?	[05:39]
KRS1	Cubans mostly, but a big mix of everyone..and i mean everyone	[05:39]
mircea_popescu	pgp yeah.	[05:39]
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mircea_popescu	what does "a lot of culture" mean ?	[05:39]
pgp	timisoara kinda like NYC right now... http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Timisoara+ROXX0040:1:RO	[05:39]
ThickAsThieves	good question	[05:39]
ThickAsThieves	must mean he is not cuban	[05:40]
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orkaa	kakobrekla, climate is different in your secluded village	[05:40]
pgp	lol	[05:40]
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ThickAsThieves	everywhere has culture	[05:41]
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KRS1	Umm..means, a good mix of food/dancing/special interest groups of nationalities/people you will meet on the streets who could be from anywhere really..but a lot of Cubans...a lot of folks from the Caribbean..but also people from many parts of the world.	[05:41]
orkaa	slovenia's really nice these days	[05:41]
orkaa	http://instagram.com/p/YIg9mfCFrl/#	[05:41]
ThickAsThieves	where i am, its nascar and pickup trucks	[05:41]
orkaa	took this today	[05:41]
kakobrekla	zokijevo morje lol	[05:41]
pgp	oh shit - gox taking a crap	[05:41]
KRS1	I have studied with students from abroad, Egypt, Japan, everywhere.	[05:41]
mircea_popescu	i fail to see how this is culture.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	culture mostly means written shit 500 years old or older.	[05:42]
mircea_popescu	you mean a lot of ethno stuff ?	[05:42]
KRS1	It has to be written? I have learned much about food from Jamaicans, dance from Cubans, poetry from folks from the U.K..	[05:42]
KRS1	Music from Brazil..	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	yes culture has to be written. else it's maybe civilisation	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	if you mean buldings or whatnot.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	if it's neither then it's folklore.	[05:43]
KRS1	Ok I had the wrong definition of culture then..	[05:43]
KRS1	The Cubans make delicious food.	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	thuis is kinda the advantage of vbeing american/english	[05:44]
mircea_popescu	comparatively everyone makes great food.	[05:44]
orkaa	lol	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	even the canadians, if only marginally.	[05:45]
KRS1	Even the British? ;)	[05:45]
ThickAsThieves	nah poutine is nasty	[05:45]
ThickAsThieves	as is candaian bacon	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	that shit's sweet	[05:45]
ThickAsThieves	bleh	[05:45]
mircea_popescu	who ever heard of sweet meat ;/	[05:45]
pgp	english have worst cuisine - hands down	[05:45]
KRS1	thats real big here mircea popescu	[05:45]
orkaa	yep	[05:45]
orkaa	their breakfast	[05:45]
joecool	yeah english food is pretty bad	[05:46]
KRS1	really big...took someone from Brazil to help me realize most of how we prepare meat here is sweat..	[05:46]
mircea_popescu	sucks.	[05:46]
KRS1	yeah, gets ...bleh	[05:46]
ThickAsThieves	i like spicy foods (any kind of spice, not just hot), Thai, Indian, portuguese	[05:46]
pgp	errr, guys, i think we're gonna break 70 here....	[05:47]
joecool	KRS1: live without carbs for a couple months, will change entirely how you feel about sweet things	[05:47]
KRS1	never ate Indian food I like..	[05:47]
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kakobrekla	fuck the price, gimme some horse meat	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	i love lamb tikka masala	[05:47]
KRS1	Carbs is the one thing I can't break away from..wish I could.	[05:47]
KRS1	I go mad.	[05:47]
orkaa	mmm, horse meat	[05:47]
ThickAsThieves	i'd die without carbs, vegan	[05:47]
pgp	carbs are killing me....	[05:47]
joecool	eh it's like a drug, there's a withdrawal from it, but then it doesn't matter	[05:47]
mircea_popescu	^	[05:47]
orkaa	i'll have to treat myself with a horse burger soon	[05:47]
KRS1	I need to try to get over that hump.	[05:47]
dub	ThickAsThieves: was it you that linked thugkitchen.com?	[05:48]
ThickAsThieves	never heard of it	[05:48]
dub	if not, good vegan food blog	[05:48]
kakobrekla	omg vegan srsly	[05:48]
joecool	heh vegan = cancer	[05:48]
ThickAsThieves	thx!	[05:48]
KRS1	joecool: what?	[05:48]
dub	kakobrekla: read teh blog anywya	[05:48]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla must kidnap vegans, feed them slanina.	[05:48]
joecool	KRS1: raises cancer risk	[05:48]
KRS1	no shit	[05:48]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu crossed my mind before	[05:48]
pgp	yes	[05:48]
ThickAsThieves	thats bullshit cmon	[05:48]
KRS1	wow...i gotta hit teh google on that one	[05:49]
orkaa	mircea_popescu, http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fj3S53HuS6g/TuJ1RicnxkI/AAAAAAAAAOA/SmT71hseD78/s1600/Lamb+Tikka+Masala.jpg	[05:49]
orkaa	is this it?	[05:49]
orkaa	nomnomnom	[05:49]
pgp	vegan = higher risk of cancer - recent study...	[05:49]
dub	sample image http://24.media.tumblr.com/5df3e6568fcd5f6c0f41b797a3b17c9c/tumblr_mjl3p5VkRK1r4qrdyo3_1280.jpg	[05:49]
mircea_popescu	orkaa looks kinda shitty but maybe.	[05:49]
orkaa	pgp, urlpls	[05:49]
ThickAsThieves	bullshit study	[05:49]
pgp	j/k	[05:49]
joecool	ThickAsThieves: it's not, start reading this blog, plenty of studies linked http://high-fat-nutrition.blogspot.com/	[05:49]
ThickAsThieves	look up proportion of meat eaten in a country compared to cancer levels	[05:49]
pgp	70 gone	[05:49]
pgp	i guess my crystal ball isn't broken afterall...	[05:50]
dub	also http://24.media.tumblr.com/193181a821cfcd98d3c7a65edd04c843/tumblr_mjl3p5VkRK1r4qrdyo4_1280.jpg	[05:50]
orkaa	dick cancer, lol	[05:50]
ThickAsThieves	i will say that for some reason lately ive had trouble with energy, vegan and 3 hrs sleep isnt working :/	[05:51]
orkaa	just saw a guy on reddit had one	[05:51]
joecool	probably your insulin levels going fucking mad	[05:51]
joecool	riding that rollercoaster all day	[05:51]
pgp	68	[05:51]
mircea_popescu	i have a slave used to be vegetarian.	[05:52]
dub	now she gets a little sausage erryday?	[05:52]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[05:52]
joecool	! awesome, romania has slavery still	[05:52]
pgp	lol	[05:52]
pgp	67	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	dub now she eats prosciutto	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	and cooks beef.	[05:52]
pgp	66	[05:52]
kakobrekla	some biggish dumps yea	[05:53]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[05:53]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 66.10000, Best ask: 66.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.70000, Last trade: 66.10000, 24 hour volume: 275365.83424234, 24 hour low: 66.55000, 24 hour high: 102.00000, 24 hour vwap: 84.22094	[05:53]
dub	I had some proper prosciutto recently, almost couldnt take it	[05:53]
dub	and I'll eat anything	[05:53]
ThickAsThieves	;;eightball Will being vegan kill me?	[05:53]
gribble	Unlikely.	[05:53]
pgp	jesus h christ...	[05:53]
mircea_popescu	it's great, what.	[05:53]
dub	home cured, never beeen near regrigeration	[05:53]
joecool	well the being vegan part won't kill you, the cancer you get from it will	[05:54]
dub	pretty much scraping maggots off it to eat	[05:54]
joecool	:D	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	prosciutto is deliciois	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	delicious	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	as is chourico	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	no vegan options for that stuff	[05:54]
pgp	;;eightball is ThickAsThieves REALLY a vegan?	[05:54]
gribble	It is possible.	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	vegan 1 yr	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	vegetarian 7	[05:55]
mircea_popescu	dub whart maggots ?!	[05:55]
dub	ThickAsThieves: have you seen the tofu meat replacement shitchina comes out with?	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	not sure	[05:55]
dub	'vegetarian pork chops' etc	[05:55]
dub	they take tofu and flavour the shit out of it with nuclear waste	[05:56]
kakobrekla	lol	[05:56]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[05:56]
ThickAsThieves	not the biggest tofu fan	[05:56]
orkaa	meh, tofu	[05:56]
pgp	yes... with U235	[05:56]
ThickAsThieves	we buy blocks sometimes	[05:56]
dub	tofu rules	[05:56]
ThickAsThieves	and cook ourselves	[05:56]
orkaa	yeah, me too	[05:57]
ThickAsThieves	like it firm	[05:57]
dub	tofu is the shit	[05:57]
orkaa	but you have to deep fry it to be eatable	[05:57]
dub	try using it in baking	[05:57]
ThickAsThieves	i hate baking	[05:57]
ThickAsThieves	i'm a stovetop guy	[05:57]
pgp	My wife like tofu - show's up on the dinner table now and again	[05:57]
ThickAsThieves	like most	[05:57]
mircea_popescu	tofu is illegal in romania.	[05:57]
pgp	lol	[05:57]
dub	gf hates tofu but I sneak it in here and there	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	also being a vegetarian, and other faggotry.	[05:58]
pgp	the food of freedom?	[05:58]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[05:58]
KRS1	pgp: so you never really have to eat out huh ;)	[05:58]
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pgp	?	[05:58]
pgp	I live in NYC	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	he eats her out like everyone else, what.	[05:58]
KRS1	your comment about tofu-	[05:58]
KRS1	lol mp got it	[05:58]
ThickAsThieves	everyone eats our his wife?	[05:58]
mircea_popescu	ouch	[05:59]
pgp	lol	[05:59]
orkaa	her cheese?	[05:59]
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orkaa	damn	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	unintended misinterpretations ftw.	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[05:59]
pgp	lol	[05:59]
pgp	good one	[05:59]
pgp	72	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	so what's the ny-boston bombings score so far ?	[05:59]
mircea_popescu	i lost count.	[05:59]
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orkaa	have you seen the nasty pics?	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	there are nasty pics?	[06:00]
orkaa	NSFL: http://apina.biz/100150	[06:00]
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mircea_popescu	i've not looked. i'll survive uninformed.	[06:00]
orkaa	might be better, yep	[06:01]
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ThickAsThieves	there's a big event in jacksonville this weekend	[06:01]
ThickAsThieves	called OneSpark, with bombs in the logo...	[06:01]
ThickAsThieves	feel bad for those guys...	[06:01]
pgp	that can't be real	[06:01]
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ThickAsThieves	www.beonespark.com	[06:02]
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dub	mircea_popescu: never watched a beheading vid?	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	sure, back in 1990s	[06:02]
pgp	I have seen that	[06:02]
mircea_popescu	seen one seen all imo	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	i remember watching faces of death as a kid	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	i survived	[06:02]
pgp	me	[06:02]
pgp	me too	[06:03]
joecool	boston fails it so hard, they shut down the city for lite brights, not even bother to check for bombs -_-	[06:03]
dub	faces of death lol	[06:03]
dub	staged as fuck	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	never went back and watched as adult	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	probly true	[06:03]
dub	the satanists eating girl scene LOL	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	mostly i remember them eatying monkey brains	[06:03]
joecool	http://imgur.com/a/riTdO/ << more nsfl pics, the link above i believe that's same guy pic #3	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	tapping the skull	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	or maybe that was indian jones?	[06:03]
joecool	not dead, grabbing leg stub though	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[06:03]
ThickAsThieves	indiana*	[06:04]
dub	yeah the monkey brains thing is real	[06:04]
pgp	boston photos are fucked up...	[06:05]
dub	meh, go look up some shit from whereve 'murica has started a war	[06:05]
pgp	the dude sans leg is brutal...	[06:05]
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ThickAsThieves	ok see i thought i saw all kindsa blood on the ground on the news, i was like did someone explode?	[06:06]
joecool	heh this would be business as usual in israel	[06:06]
jcpham	Taking a beating today	[06:06]
pgp	3 day low, btw	[06:06]
joecool	ThickAsThieves: aljazeera thought it was a gas main explosion	[06:06]
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orkaa	so no terrorists took responsibility yet?	[06:07]
Diablo-D3	orkaa: Im thinking it was home grown	[06:07]
ThickAsThieves	they said something about a dark man trying to access secure area	[06:07]
ThickAsThieves	yes it was that vague	[06:07]
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dub	inb4 gun nuts protesting 2nd ammendment shit	[06:08]
orkaa	'dark man'	[06:08]
orkaa	of course	[06:08]
dub	haha	[06:08]
ThickAsThieves	fuckin dark people, get ya every time	[06:08]
dub	africanised killer bees	[06:08]
Diablo-D3	ThickAsThieves: yeah its like	[06:08]
Diablo-D3	a dark skinned man	[06:08]
Diablo-D3	with possible accent	[06:08]
dub	no niggers in boston	[06:08]
Diablo-D3	wearing black hoodie and clothing	[06:08]
Diablo-D3	SOUNDS LIKE AN AVERAGE BOSTONIAN TO ME	[06:08]
joecool	dub: they call them haitians, they drive the taxis	[06:08]
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joecool	this is what it's like in bawston	[06:09]
ThickAsThieves	dpends what part	[06:09]
Diablo-D3	bawwstan	[06:09]
ThickAsThieves	i lived in southie and west boston, pretty different	[06:09]
Diablo-D3	and the news WAS reporting a third bomb at the jfk library	[06:09]
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Diablo-D3	and now no one is talking about	[06:09]
Diablo-D3	wtf happened	[06:09]
Bugpowder	WHHHHeeeeee	[06:09]
joecool	plenty of nigs in murderpan	[06:09]
dub	Diablo-D3: like hte plane that hit the pentagon	[06:09]
ThickAsThieves	spent some time in jamaice plain too	[06:10]
ThickAsThieves	lotsa dark men there	[06:10]
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ThickAsThieves	jamaica*	[06:10]
joecool	this is why the red line is disconnected from there	[06:10]
Bugpowder	seen this?	[06:10]
Bugpowder	http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=072_1366065507	[06:10]
ThickAsThieves	horrible	[06:11]
Diablo-D3	dub: yeah pretty fucking much	[06:11]
kakobrekla	i see a coke bottle	[06:11]
Diablo-D3	dub: fucking supernigger hijacked a cruise missile or some shit	[06:12]
orkaa	kakobrekla, it sure is dark	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	in southie, they actually have flyers in shops for bareknuckle boxing matches, or at least they used to...	[06:12]
kakobrekla	hm?	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	pics of two scrawny 20 yos	[06:12]
joecool	haven't had a lot of time in southie, mostly back bay	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	boston is a great city, for a city	[06:13]
orkaa	btw, poor north korea, they're off the headlines today	[06:13]
joecool	went drinking in southie a few times, it's like full-retard boston	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	yeah	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	i lived on one of those alley streets	[06:13]
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ThickAsThieves	rented an attic room from a single mom who smoked pot in her bathroom	[06:14]
joecool	pretty much hated the time i was there, hate the city, hate that it shuts down pretty much at midnight, hate the people, hate the accent, yeah all pretty horrible	[06:14]
joecool	only plus side is you can actually walk, it's pretty small	[06:14]
ThickAsThieves	commuting is a nightmare	[06:14]
ThickAsThieves	and the cold	[06:15]
ThickAsThieves	gawd	[06:15]
joecool	rent was crazy high too	[06:15]
ThickAsThieves	like any big city	[06:15]
pipeline	uh	[06:16]
pipeline	not every big city has bad commuting	[06:16]
joecool	boston is especially bad	[06:16]
pipeline	yes	[06:17]
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joecool	but i guess there could be worse, boston is low on my list of cities to drive in	[06:17]
pipeline	boston traffic is terrifying	[06:17]
joecool	but it's not philly or montreal bad	[06:17]
pipeline	i would rather drive in philly	[06:17]
pipeline	at least if i had an armored car	[06:17]
pipeline	the traffic in philly is pleasant by comparison	[06:17]
pipeline	and the roads more or less are straight, not cow-paths from the 16th century	[06:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89899 BTC [-]	[06:17]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[06:17]
joecool	well yeah armored car in philly is a good idea	[06:17]
joecool	fuck using a gps unit	[06:17]
joecool	those roads defy all logic and science	[06:17]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 18 @ 0.000698 = 0.0126 BTC [+]	[06:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 704 @ 0.000698 = 0.4914 BTC [+]	[06:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.0007 = 0.0014 BTC [+]	[06:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 394 @ 0.000709 = 0.2793 BTC [+]	[06:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.000709 = 0.0709 BTC [+]	[06:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00071 = 0.071 BTC [+]	[06:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1500 @ 0.000712 = 1.068 BTC [+]	[06:19]
joecool	just don't make the mistake of hopping into camden at night	[06:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 588 @ 0.000714 = 0.4198 BTC [+]	[06:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.00073 = 0.0219 BTC [+]	[06:19]
joecool	that's a city they should just burn to the ground	[06:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.000746 = 0.0373 BTC [+]	[06:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 30 @ 0.000747 = 0.0224 BTC [+]	[06:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2 @ 0.00075 = 0.0015 BTC [+]	[06:19]
joecool	easier to build a replacement	[06:20]
ThickAsThieves	hmmm this is gonna go lower faster than i thought	[06:20]
orkaa	hm, i should go to sleep	[06:21]
orkaa	i can hear the morning busses	[06:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 80 @ 0.00079 = 0.0632 BTC [+]	[06:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00081 = 0.0065 BTC [+]	[06:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 41 @ 0.00081 = 0.0332 BTC [+]	[06:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00089 = 0.089 BTC [+]	[06:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.0009 = 0.0072 BTC [+]	[06:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 50 @ 0.00096 = 0.048 BTC [+]	[06:22]
dub	wat	[06:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 8 @ 0.00097 = 0.0078 BTC [+]	[06:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [+]	[06:22]
Bugpowder	It might go faster than expected	[06:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 182 @ 0.00364763 = 0.6639 BTC [-]	[06:23]
Bugpowder	now that people see the inevitable coming up to meet them	[06:23]
Bugpowder	the last bubble chart is very clear	[06:24]
Bugpowder	people will probably try to front run it	[06:24]
Bugpowder	I know I did	[06:24]
kakobrekla	i agree	[06:24]
kakobrekla	also the pullback might be slightly faster	[06:24]
ThickAsThieves	i think there are a lot of people waiting for the bottom	[06:25]
ThickAsThieves	wonder how log it will last once we hit it	[06:25]
ThickAsThieves	long*	[06:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3312 @ 0.00071199 = 2.3581 BTC [+]	[06:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4970 @ 0.0006941 = 3.4497 BTC [-]	[06:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10330 @ 0.00069311 = 7.1598 BTC [-]	[06:26]
Bugpowder	remember, the psychological perspective of immediate post-pop last time was probably very similar to what we naturally are thinking now	[06:27]
Bugpowder	step ahead	[06:27]
Bugpowder	we need to think like the people 3 weeks after the pop	[06:27]
dub	;;goxlag	[06:27]
gribble	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).	[06:27]
dub	gox right click unfucked the lag eh	[06:28]
jcpham	Easy peasy	[06:28]
dub	;;next	[06:28]
gribble	looking for retracement to 86 \| buy targets: 74, 68, 54 \| resistance 85-88, upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 1:44 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 1 hour, 44 minutes, and 48 seconds ago	[06:28]
kakobrekla	Bugpowder thats prolly somewhat true but certain conditions have changed	[06:29]
Bugpowder	conditions have changed	[06:29]
kakobrekla	is one of the reasons why its going down faster	[06:29]
Bugpowder	bitcoin is in a much better place	[06:29]
jcpham	so what did gox do to fix the lag	[06:29]
Bugpowder	of course, the valuation is 8x	[06:29]
jcpham	Or did everyone just give up?	[06:29]
Bugpowder	volume is extremely heavy	[06:29]
Bugpowder	they fixed the lag	[06:29]
dub	jcpham: new hardware, higher min trade, trade rate limits	[06:29]
Bugpowder	must have	[06:29]
jcpham	I thought so too	[06:29]
Bugpowder	dub oh? higher min trade and rate limits?	[06:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.00421 = 0.0674 BTC [+]	[06:30]
dub	Bugpowder: yeah according to that neofutur shill	[06:30]
joecool	well new hardware didn't do shit tbh, rate limiting and putting a check to stop people bidding with empty wallets seemed to help	[06:30]
joecool	still sucks though	[06:31]
joecool	everything they do is crappy bandaid solutions	[06:31]
dub	I dont thing the balance check is in yet	[06:31]
joecool	support has a 3 day backlog, verifications has ~2 week backlog	[06:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 14 @ 0.519 = 7.266 BTC [+]	[06:32]
joecool	i'm guessing they spent a good amount of money on pizza parties and don't have enough to fund all deposits	[06:32]
Bugpowder	luckily wire transfers out have 0 backlong	[06:32]
Bugpowder	backlog	[06:32]
joecool	so it's a cycle of sweating and eating pizza	[06:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.89899 = 1.798 BTC [-]	[06:32]
dub	tux collection of diamond 20 sided dice	[06:32]
Bugpowder	lol	[06:32]
Bugpowder	I just bought 2500 magic cards for some used 5850s	[06:33]
dub	and gold leafe yugio cards	[06:33]
kakobrekla	dunno a friend of mine has been waiting sepa withdrawal 3 weeks now from gox	[06:33]
joecool	i tell them it's a 50/50 on whether they will be successful or in jail in a year	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	goes to 20/80 if you make it 3 years.	[06:33]
Bugpowder	wire	[06:33]
Bugpowder	the	[06:33]
Bugpowder	money	[06:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 0.899 = 9.889 BTC [+]	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	sepa is a wire.	[06:33]
Bugpowder	is it?	[06:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[06:34]
Bugpowder	y so slow then?	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	cause idiocy.	[06:34]
mircea_popescu	but basically it's faster cheaper wire.	[06:34]
kakobrekla	they are saying they are capped out at the polish bank iirc	[06:34]
Bugpowder	well they seem to have their shit together with US intl wire, at least for bofa	[06:34]
kakobrekla	which is bull	[06:34]
Bugpowder	what banks DON'T WANT you to wire them money?	[06:34]
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kakobrekla	its a withdrawal to be nitpicky	[06:35]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.89998 = 3.5999 BTC [+]	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	basically you can't initiate a sepa wire except from an european bank or subsidiary	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	and mtgox is illegal in europe	[06:35]
mircea_popescu	that'd be the rub.	[06:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.89999 = 8.0999 BTC [+]	[06:36]
mircea_popescu	anyway, catch all of you tomorrow.	[06:37]
dub	peace	[06:37]
Bugpowder	this selloff is brutal	[06:38]
Bugpowder	dude!	[06:38]
Bugpowder	you are going to miss the climax	[06:38]
Bugpowder	Bugpowder's investment return plot	[06:38]
Bugpowder	(brought to you by MPEx)	[06:38]
kakobrekla	:D	[06:38]
dub	wall moved lower	[06:38]
dub	fuck	[06:39]
kakobrekla	so bug, whats 3 weeks from now	[06:39]
dub	kinda want to sell here and rebuy but thsi asshole is gonna trap me	[06:39]
Bugpowder	3 weeks from now is 40	[06:39]
Bugpowder	1st guess	[06:40]
Bugpowder	need to think about it of course	[06:40]
Bugpowder	It has been shown that if you make a guess, pause, reconsider, then make a second guess, then average those two guesses, you are more accurate	[06:40]
kakobrekla	good info	[06:40]
Bugpowder	the average beats both the first or second guess, even if you have the same information	[06:41]
Bugpowder	I hope all my friends got out	[06:42]
Bugpowder	I told them all to sell this morning.	[06:42]
Bugpowder	dub I think there will be a bounce	[06:43]
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dub	yeah	[06:43]
Bugpowder	this downward move is too violent	[06:43]
dub	it will be right after I sell	[06:43]
Bugpowder	yes	[06:43]
kakobrekla	lol	[06:43]
Bugpowder	you never want to sell after a selloff has been going for quite a while	[06:44]
Bugpowder	but I would exit on the next sustained up move	[06:44]
Bugpowder	if I still had coins	[06:44]
Bugpowder	(not advice)	[06:45]
jcpham	Exit permanente?	[06:46]
ThickAsThieves	looks like we'll lose 60 soon	[06:46]
jcpham	That doesn't sound fun at all	[06:46]
dub	yes officer, this dude named after tim leary's herion metaphore on the internet gave me trading advice	[06:46]
dub	heroin*	[06:46]
jcpham	I did my ten percent metal thing this morning closer to 100	[06:47]
Diablo-D3	*metafore	[06:47]
jcpham	Still waiting on the big bubble	[06:47]
dub	Diablo-D3: orly	[06:47]
jcpham	I think dub's phonetic is more	[06:49]
kakobrekla	well luke will be reasonably priced soon	[06:49]
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Bugpowder	oh my	[06:49]
Diablo-D3	kakobrekla: we're selling luke? to who?	[06:49]
Bugpowder	dub lol	[06:50]
kakobrekla	id get rid of him for free, but his coins are 25$ a pop	[06:50]
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dub	I suspect you'd have to pay to have him taken away	[06:55]
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dub	expecially now his loyal mouth breathing fanbase is realising what a spineless piece of shit he really is	[06:57]
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ThickAsThieves	lol clarkmoody cant keep up with gox now	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	how things have changed	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	here comes 60	[06:58]
Bugpowder	hooooly fuk	[07:01]
jcpham	BFL Shipping delayed! Avalon batch #2 shipping instead. Preorder your Avalon Batch #4 unit now from www.butterflylabs.com PREORDER NOW!	[07:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15999 BTC [+]	[07:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 42 @ 0.00085 = 0.0357 BTC [-]	[07:04]
ThickAsThieves	soooo 50 tonight?	[07:04]
Bugpowder	hmm	[07:05]
Bugpowder	time to update my bid positioning	[07:05]
pgp	happening faster than i thought...	[07:06]
BingoBoingo	$30 tonight?	[07:06]
pgp	bp: what do you think?	[07:06]
Bugpowder	bounce off 50	[07:06]
Bugpowder	or a little before	[07:06]
ThickAsThieves	ugh i had a bid up at 65 i forgot about :/	[07:07]
ThickAsThieves	just 10btc	[07:07]
Bugpowder	lol	[07:07]
ThickAsThieves	guess i'll throw it into sdice or something	[07:08]
ThickAsThieves	myabe ltc	[07:08]
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ThickAsThieves	nah	[07:09]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[07:09]
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BingoBoingo	;;bids 31	[07:09]
gribble	There are currently 119758.3 bitcoins demanded at or over 31.0 USD, worth 5378138.64252 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 76.0023 seconds	[07:09]
pgp	thought I was going to bed, but... not now!	[07:09]
pgp	started nibbling...	[07:10]
Bugpowder	combo should really be posting funny shit on the way down too	[07:11]
Bugpowder	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_hFTR6qyEo	[07:11]
Bugpowder	comboy	[07:11]
Bugpowder	who's got balls	[07:11]
Bugpowder	DRAINAAAGGGGEEEE	[07:12]
pgp	how bout that ... new low... a little sooner than I expected, but hey...	[07:13]
Bugpowder	come on hit 51	[07:14]
Bugpowder	;;goxlag	[07:14]
gribble	MtGox lag is 4.718365 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00945555063055 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).	[07:14]
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kakobrekla	you gonna play the bounce ?	[07:14]
Bugpowder	yeah if it hits my bid	[07:15]
ThickAsThieves	just did :)	[07:15]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[13:59]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013	[13:59]
Bugpowder	ThickAsThieves: 70 might be a bit rich actually… People will definitely want to buy at 50, but at 69? At 69 people are probably counting their blessings that they can sell the bounce.	[14:00]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder you're making the mistake of thinking "people" are like you.	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	the vast majority of bitcvoin holders don't give a shit what the price is.	[14:01]
Bugpowder	I have made very few mistakes tonight	[14:01]
Bugpowder	actually	[14:01]
Bugpowder	and the vast majority are in a panic	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	sigh.	[14:01]
Bugpowder	the big dogs might not be	[14:01]
mircea_popescu	the 1% or so bitcoins that are held by noobs really don't matter in any serious discussion.	[14:01]
Bugpowder	are you talking people or talking total bitcoins	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	total bitcoins.	[14:02]
Bugpowder	that's different	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	this is money. people don't matter.	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	well...	[14:02]
Bugpowder	half the top 500 addresses didn't move during the whole bubble	[14:02]
Bugpowder	I saw that somewhere	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	exactly.	[14:02]
mircea_popescu	buncha noobs got tjhemselves into a tizzy. nobody really caresd.	[14:02]
Bugpowder	but if they didn't move on the way up or the way down, they aren't participating in the market	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	the mtgox "market" is very decoupled from economic reality, as it happens.	[14:03]
Bugpowder	and my goal is to make $ and coins from the price movement	[14:03]
mircea_popescu	i don't imagine a recoupling is ever likely at any rate.	[14:03]
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mircea_popescu	i know your goal is to try and speculate, but this makes you not part of bitcoin in any meaningful sense.	[14:03]
Bugpowder	hence, the people that are market participants are the people I'm thinking about, since they are pushing the price around.	[14:04]
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mircea_popescu	well...	[14:04]
Bugpowder	Define meaningful	[14:05]
deadweasel	i'd rather be profitable than be part of something in a meaningful sense.	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder meaningful, as in having a price signal. you're currently unable to make any sort of judgement as to what bitcoin price should be other than "what are others thinking"	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	thus you're not participating in price formation	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	you're merely participating in volatility formation.	[14:05]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel nothing wrong with that.	[14:06]
mircea_popescu	the only problem is that it doesn't work longterm. might as well play s.dice.	[14:06]
deadweasel	i agree. but for some reason this has worked out better.	[14:06]
Bugpowder	I think economic activity associated with bitcoin currently supports a price of ~30	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	well, that's the nature of chance. sometimes it works.	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	conversely, the nature of people is to infer patterns in chance.	[14:07]
Bugpowder	and we will see an undershoot on that	[14:07]
deadweasel	you think undershooot 30?	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder ok, but you think this based on what ?	[14:07]
Bugpowder	based on the stability of price at around 15 pre-bubble, and the growth in bitcoin infrastructure since then	[14:07]
mircea_popescu	see ? this is all "What others think"	[14:07]
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Bugpowder	I'm 'adding liquidity'	[14:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00070824 = 1.2982 BTC [+]	[14:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7618 @ 0.00071 = 5.4088 BTC [+]	[14:09]
dub	;;calc [ticker --vol]*[ticker --avg]	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	let's look at this past week (dear lord, it is ONE WEEK) from a macro perspective. buncha noobs poured 20-25 mn into the fiat/btc exchanges. miners took out a few mn of that, exchanges took out a few mn out of that too as fees.	[14:09]
gribble	37198356.7324	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	rest was split out back among the noobs.	[14:09]
mircea_popescu	i bet you the EV of the bubble is < the EV of S.dice.	[14:09]
dub	40mn volume today	[14:10]
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Bugpowder	for a n00b	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	dub that's not how it works tho.	[14:10]
Bugpowder	sure	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder well macro is macro.	[14:10]
dub	;;calc [ticker --vol]*[ticker --last]	[14:10]
gribble	34220690.9548	[14:10]
Bugpowder	and from a long term EV perspective, buying at 260 is still positive	[14:10]
dub	lie dat?	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	probably. if by long term one means more than a year or a few.	[14:10]
mircea_popescu	dub most of the trades count as wash trades in this perspective.	[14:11]
Bugpowder	IFF you don't consider future buy in	[14:11]
Bugpowder	potential future buy in costs	[14:11]
mircea_popescu	we're talking net inflows, the fact someone makes bets worth 10 btc on s.dice doesn't mean he has bet a total over 1 btc	[14:11]
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Bugpowder	If you are ignoring volatility and bubble formation and popping, (which was obvious both during and in hindsight) then you may be making an EV positive play, but it is far far far from the best EV + play.	[14:12]
KRS1	that all sounds very positive to me	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	KRS1 it is, kinda.	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder in the end it all boils down to "it's an -ev game" and "everybody thinks they're special".	[14:13]
KRS1	wow i've learned a thing or two since i've been here	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	sure, they are. till they aren't.	[14:13]
Bugpowder	I agree actually	[14:13]
Bugpowder	everyone does think there special	[14:14]
Bugpowder	when they are winning	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	kinda how the human brain is made to work i think	[14:14]
Bugpowder	I maintain that luck has a huge role to play here	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	well absolutely.	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	hence the -ev / s.dice discussion	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	o wow, huge iran quake.	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if their concrete prefab building can take it.	[14:15]
Bugpowder	although my brain tells my that I must be more skilled than the market	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	7.8 15 minutes ago	[14:16]
Bugpowder	I wouldn't believe it if this was a mature financial market	[14:16]
mircea_popescu	it is a bounty of information and case study for actual economical discussion however.	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	for instance : the common wisdom is that capital controls help volatile macrofinancial situations.	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	well... mtgox is the most extreme case of capital controls i've ever seen implemented.	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	did not help.	[14:18]
deadweasel	we actually make very few decisions with our conscious mind. our unconscious makes the decision and the consciousness creates a story around it make so it feels special about 'making' the decision.	[14:18]
Bugpowder	but the seductive argument is that the current state of bitcoin pricing is based on new market participants with little experience, and by using information asymmetries, like spending 12 hours a day on #bitcoin-assets, I can beat them.	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	leaving aside the quite typical cypriot failure mode of capital controls (ie, corruption), it still doesn't work.	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel sorta like dreams work.	[14:18]
deadweasel	so if you know a subject well enough and long enough (10,000 hours i think), the instinct can be correct when you're conciously not sure.	[14:19]
deadweasel	yeah, but it's how we work ALL the time.	[14:19]
Bugpowder	thank you Malcom Gladwell :)	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder i always suspected the "fight" or "Game" representation of markets is an artefact of the american mind and has nothing to do with market reality.	[14:19]
deadweasel	lol	[14:19]
deadweasel	Bugpowder: you got me.	[14:19]
deadweasel	:D	[14:19]
deadweasel	i'm Malcom Gladwell.	[14:19]
ThickAsThieves	also consider that the market price is manifesting itself from people doing what they think other people think people are doing	[14:20]
Bugpowder	I wonder how that guy that quit his job to play 10000 hours of golf is doing.	[14:20]
deadweasel	he's probably very relaxed.	[14:20]
ThickAsThieves	a map has been provided in the bubble chart	[14:20]
ThickAsThieves	we're just following/leading it	[14:20]
mircea_popescu	sounds like torture	[14:20]
deadweasel	work now, sign on in a bit.	[14:20]
Bugpowder	ThickAsThieves: I would argue though that the dynamics of bubble formation and popping have such similarities that there must be common stages of collective emotion that drive them	[14:21]
ThickAsThieves	at this point how do you separate that	[14:21]
ThickAsThieves	now we think all bubbles are alike	[14:21]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder we have, of course, newton's famous quote.	[14:21]
Bugpowder	well anyone can draw a plot	[14:21]
Bugpowder	and label it with descriptors of emotion	[14:22]
Bugpowder	doesn't make it right	[14:22]
ThickAsThieves	right but knowing what a bubble looks like, allows us to construct it	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	not really.	[14:22]
Bugpowder	but there IS something there.	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	this is like saying knowing what democracy looks like we can now construct it.	[14:22]
Bugpowder	mircea_popescu: quote?	[14:22]
ThickAsThieves	nah	[14:22]
mircea_popescu	1. we don't really know what it looks like ; 2 we've never constructed it.	[14:22]
ThickAsThieves	i dont mean it an intentional way	[14:22]
ThickAsThieves	i mean our behavior facilitates it	[14:23]
Bugpowder	maybe democracy is harder to construct than a spec bubble	[14:23]
Bugpowder	takes higher order thinking, reasoning debate	[14:23]
Bugpowder	bubbles are just raw emotion driven asset valuation	[14:23]
ThickAsThieves	the speculators note that when i bubble pops, this and that happens, making it much more confident behaior	[14:23]
Bugpowder	ThickAsThieves: I certainly have used the last bitcoin bubble chart to inform my position for this one.	[14:24]
Bugpowder	it went better than expected	[14:24]
ThickAsThieves	thus you are also manifesting it	[14:24]
Bugpowder	right	[14:24]
ThickAsThieves	my point	[14:24]
Bugpowder	sure	[14:25]
ThickAsThieves	we all sat here waiting for 50	[14:25]
ThickAsThieves	obv it had to come	[14:25]
Bugpowder	just, when you personally manifest it, be early :)	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder "I can calculate the motions of the heavenly bodies, but not the madness of people."	[14:25]
Bugpowder	ah yes	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	and something being simple does not make it easy.	[14:25]
Bugpowder	need Dr. Selden for that	[14:25]
mircea_popescu	such as, airplanes were made in the 1900s. ants are still not made.	[14:25]
Bugpowder	Seldon	[14:25]
ThickAsThieves	i do think we'll strike an anomaly against the bubble template	[14:25]
ThickAsThieves	as bitcoin is still bitcoin, unique	[14:26]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves to put it simply : the more close to common thought you are, the less likely it is to be correct. the further out you are the higher chances for you to be wrong. this is how thinking about bubbles works.	[14:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+]	[14:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.95 = 2.85 BTC [+]	[14:26]
ezdiy	also '' Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one. ,,	[14:26]
ezdiy	however this line thinking is actually useless to quantify bubless, because you can get the shape right	[14:27]
ezdiy	but never the timescale :(	[14:27]
thestringpuller	;;seen smickles	[14:28]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 46 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm	[14:28]
Bugpowder	ezdiy: yup, that's why averaging out and averaging in are useful concepts	[14:28]
Bugpowder	Can't pick the top	[14:29]
Bugpowder	but you can tell you are probably in a bubble and peel off some gains on the way up	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	i think statistically the difference between the strategy of averaging in and the strategy of timing the top	[14:30]
Bugpowder	EV is the same	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	is the same as the difference between the strategy of martingale and the strategy of playing s.dice	[14:30]
Bugpowder	?	[14:30]
ThickAsThieves	mp, re: common thought, isn't it a different situation when the very game IS common thought (speculation)	[14:30]
Bugpowder	possibly	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	actually the proof of this would be a huge step forward in economic theory.	[14:30]
Bugpowder	I think it boils down to psychology	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves i'm always wary when someone proposes something is different from something else.	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	we just don't have that many different things available.	[14:31]
ezdiy	mircea_popescu: martingale is for truly iniform random walk	[14:31]
ThickAsThieves	speculation is being at the front of the herd, rather than the back, where the wolves are	[14:32]
ThickAsThieves	(thinking out loud)	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	replace wolves with terrorists.	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	(ie, imagined threat). nao what ?	[14:32]
Bugpowder	If you give someone a 50/50 chance of making $1,000,000 or a 100% change of making $500,000, unless they already have many million in the bank, they will invariably pick the sure bet.	[14:32]
ThickAsThieves	well its all game again	[14:32]
Bugpowder	similar thing in settlement negotiations	[14:32]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder also someone will tend to represent a 49/51 chance as a 33/66 chance and a 1/99 chance as a 0/100 chance.	[14:32]
thestringpuller	;;seen smickles	[14:33]
gribble	smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 4 days, 19 hours, 50 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	this as a restatement of taleb's ideas.	[14:33]
Bugpowder	sure	[14:33]
Bugpowder	well, taleb may be restating our ideas	[14:33]
Bugpowder	cause I didn't read that yet	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	he is, he is.	[14:33]
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mircea_popescu	well... the old black swan. 'it never happened therefore it's impossible" fallacy.	[14:33]
mircea_popescu	1/99 really is 0/100 after 72 tries or somesuch	[14:34]
Bugpowder	in settlement negation, client management and selection is essential for optimizing firm revenue under contingency model	[14:34]
Bugpowder	You want a client that already is rich	[14:34]
ezdiy	Bugpowder: until you're overrun by competition which caters to long trail :)	[14:34]
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Bugpowder	so when a defendant finally raises the settlement offer from 1MM to $10MM, the client doesn't piss himself and take the money	[14:35]
BitHub	come join us at #oracles&rogues where we perform miracle readings and premonitions	[14:35]
BitHub	mircea hi :)	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	ello	[14:35]
ezdiy	moar crystal balls, yay	[14:35]
BitHub	yes but this one is lulz	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder this is incidentally why i never raise offers. i make an offer. any further discussion is met with a deduction from the offer.	[14:35]
BitHub	especially the slang	[14:35]
mircea_popescu	works with women, too. ask her out. she fails to accept... well... he'll have to work at it next time.	[14:36]
mircea_popescu	haha i missed an s in there to great benefit.	[14:36]
ezdiy	mircea_popescu: i'm afraid this is not universally acceptable g	[14:36]
Bugpowder	you need a client that can say, fuck 100% at 10MM, let's try for the 30% shot at 100MM	[14:36]
ezdiy	try that with any self-respecting woman	[14:37]
ezdiy	or human, for that matter lol	[14:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00071 = 7.597 BTC [+]	[14:37]
BitHub	is the site issues all good now mircea?	[14:37]
BitHub	well the ddos bs, same guy as gox?	[14:37]
Bugpowder	ezdiy: works will all women	[14:37]
ezdiy	yeah	[14:37]
ezdiy	daddy issues ftw	[14:37]
ezdiy	:)	[14:37]
Bugpowder	most men too	[14:37]
ezdiy	well, generally works with doormats of all walks of life	[14:37]
Bugpowder	not just doormats.	[14:38]
KRS1	heh doormats	[14:38]
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BitHub	i only trust asicminer	[14:38]
Bugpowder	There is a lot of truth in 'The Game'	[14:38]
BitHub	pua?	[14:38]
Bugpowder	yah	[14:38]
BitHub	heh	[14:38]
BitHub	i enjoy that	[14:38]
Bugpowder	of course, you must be savvy enough to adapt it to your own style	[14:39]
BitHub	niel strauss	[14:39]
BitHub	neil	[14:39]
pgp	morning	[14:39]
Bugpowder	and now deal with everyone know about The Game	[14:39]
BitHub	better off reading robert greene books tho	[14:39]
ezdiy	Bugpowder: in it's core, it's artificial price inflation	[14:39]
ezdiy	Bugpowder: youre making scarce something which is in reality not scarce at all	[14:39]
ezdiy	smart women realize that :)	[14:39]
BitHub	read his art of seduction	[14:39]
mircea_popescu	ezdiy it only works with self respecting people.	[14:39]
BitHub	he's the real master	[14:39]
Bugpowder	which is tricky, because doing the meta-game game usually doesn't not go well.	[14:39]
Bugpowder	I read all this shit when it was just on that web forum	[14:40]
mircea_popescu	they're the only ones that can go yes or no on the first presentation and stick to it.	[14:40]
Bugpowder	way before the books	[14:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00070023 = 0.9103 BTC [-]	[14:40]
Bugpowder	I went from having NO women, to 2 hot girlfriends at the same time	[14:40]
BitHub	women are very easy	[14:40]
Bugpowder	although a part of my integrity died	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	Bugpowder why not tell them ?	[14:41]
Bugpowder	heheh	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	what ?	[14:41]
Bugpowder	early days	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	a	[14:41]
Bugpowder	I was not ready for that at 20 yr old	[14:41]
BitHub	have you developed your inner game yet?	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	girls don't mind eating a girl out once they figure out it's safe.	[14:41]
BitHub	don't listen to mircea when it comes to girls	[14:41]
mircea_popescu	yeah, i agree.	[14:42]
Bugpowder	I am retired from the game	[14:42]
BitHub	probably hasn't been with one for a while	[14:42]
BitHub	just be yourself	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	ahaha	[14:42]
BitHub	its simple	[14:42]
ezdiy	BitHub: why not? this sort of talk leads to guys one-upping each other	[14:42]
ezdiy	gradually	[14:42]
ezdiy	its hilarious	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	ezdiy no u.	[14:42]
BitHub	maybe im neggin him ;)	[14:42]
Bugpowder	lol	[14:42]
mircea_popescu	BitHub this chan has a strict no fag policy.	[14:42]
BitHub	or that alpha male technique thingy	[14:42]
ezdiy	mircea_popescu: awww. are we negging? :)	[14:42]
ezdiy	/insert relevant xkcd/	[14:42]
BitHub	heh better ban yourself then	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	i don't smoke.	[14:43]
BitHub	just run off with peoples bits yeah?	[14:43]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[14:43]
BitHub	i kid, i love you	[14:43]
Bugpowder	beta male move there BitHub	[14:44]
Bugpowder	supplication	[14:44]
BitHub	that's how easy it is	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	can't he love me ?	[14:44]
BitHub	just showing example	[14:44]
BitHub	but at the end of the day right its a numbers game	[14:44]
BitHub	either you like daddy, or piss off	[14:44]
Scrat	;;ticker --last	[14:44]
gribble	58.41000	[14:44]
BitHub	new girls turning 18 every day	[14:45]
ezdiy	depends on what youre looking for	[14:45]
BitHub	listen	[14:45]
ezdiy	till 25, people are looking just for a cheap fuck	[14:46]
BitHub	you know why people get gf's and wives etc	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	you do ?	[14:46]
BitHub	because they're poor and scared to die alone	[14:46]
ezdiy	yep	[14:46]
Bugpowder	hmmm	[14:46]
Bugpowder	can't agree with that	[14:46]
BitHub	its true	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	everybody dies alone.	[14:46]
ezdiy	BitHub: whats worse, there are rich people who die alone	[14:46]
BitHub	work on your bank account	[14:46]
ezdiy	in the true sense	[14:46]
Bugpowder	1) positive influence on life, 2) understanding, 3) having kids	[14:46]
BitHub	give it away	[14:46]
Scrat	disregard bitches, acquire satoshi	[14:47]
Scrat	is what i say	[14:47]
ezdiy	Scrat: :))))	[14:47]
mircea_popescu	heh. i guess the rebellious youth of these days no longer reads sartre & co huh.	[14:47]
Bugpowder	those would be my top 3 reasons for a wife, in some order.	[14:47]
BitHub	anyway my point is, be a man and work on making money	[14:47]
BitHub	teh girls will cum	[14:47]
Bugpowder	Work on something	[14:47]
Bugpowder	doesn't need to be money	[14:47]
Scrat	b-b-but im still a poor beta fag	[14:48]
Scrat	t-t-thanks bitcoin-assets	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	srsly. learn how to handle a whip and rope.	[14:48]
Bugpowder	but you gotta be good at something	[14:48]
BitHub	lul mircea	[14:48]
Bugpowder	science don't pay	[14:48]
ezdiy	BitHub: not much money needed actually	[14:48]
BitHub	why	[14:48]
BitHub	ezdiy at last 1 million	[14:48]
BitHub	least	[14:48]
ezdiy	BitHub: it might come as a surprise, but shallow women are mostly interested int things	[14:48]
mircea_popescu	because more girls need a good whipping than need money at all.	[14:48]
BitHub	then you can relax	[14:48]
ezdiy	ie visible signs of social status	[14:48]
ezdiy	ie piss poor, but a good car	[14:48]
ezdiy	etc	[14:48]
BitHub	anyway lil off topic, i actually really enjoy all the different bitcoin assets	[14:49]
BitHub	and analysing them	[14:49]
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BitHub	any good ipo's coming up? i'm only feeling asicminer at the moment	[14:49]
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Bugpowder		[14:52]
Bugpowder	ZIGZAP 2.0	[14:52]
thestringpuller	well smickles has goxxed me	[14:52]
Scrat	BitHub: mine	[14:53]
Bugpowder	coinbullshitter.com	[14:53]
Scrat	it will rox your sox off	[14:53]
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mircea_popescu	thestringpuller i thought he was getting out of brokering ?	[14:53]
BitHub	scrat?	[14:54]
Bugpowder	he probably should if he locks you up for weeks	[14:54]
BitHub	lul bug	[14:54]
BitHub	Scrat, hook me up	[14:54]
BitHub	scam me and i'll you tho	[14:54]
ThickAsThieves	BitHub, do you realize that you're repeatedly looking for confirmation that ASICminer shares are a good buy?	[14:54]
BitHub	i already have heaps	[14:54]
ThickAsThieves	you know what that means right?	[14:55]
ezdiy	self-assuring circle jerks are a good thing	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	notrly.	[14:55]
BitHub	well name another asset then	[14:55]
Scrat	BitHub: well, not yet released	[14:55]
Bugpowder	24hr volume, 545,000BTC	[14:55]
BitHub	should i put all my btc into ziggap?	[14:55]
Bugpowder	this is what happens with no lag	[14:55]
Bugpowder	BitHub: It's a long tail play	[14:55]
BitHub	or maybe should i put all my btc into BAKEDwell	[14:56]
ThickAsThieves	you should be looking for reliable stocks that are tied to USD	[14:56]
BitHub	i praise asicminer because its a legit asset	[14:56]
Scrat	;;ticker --last	[14:56]
gribble	56.91000	[14:56]
Bugpowder	ZIGZAP, BAKEWELL distressed assets and litecoin.	[14:56]
ThickAsThieves	since USD is going up	[14:56]
BitHub	i want to get your guys opinions on good and trusthworth bitcoin companies that are floating assets	[14:56]
BitHub	i mean shares	[14:56]
ThickAsThieves	asicminer may be the most stable, but you are essentially locking yourself in to BTC/USD value	[14:56]
ThickAsThieves	which you may have noticed is plummeting	[14:57]
BitHub	yes	[14:57]
BitHub	so during these times of suicides, isn't it better to be collecting divs? and the demand for stable asset is there, so alot of people pumping, allowing you to golden parachute out later when btc price picks up again?	[14:58]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[14:58]
ThickAsThieves	not sure where to start	[14:58]
Bugpowder	S.DICE could be good	[14:59]
ThickAsThieves	you really think divs will outweigh your loss in BTC/USD value?	[14:59]
Bugpowder	but you really need that betting volume to pickup	[14:59]
Bugpowder	it hasn't yet	[14:59]
ThickAsThieves	Bug, check again	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	@DalaiLama It’s unrealistic to think that the future of humanity can be achieved only on the basis of prayer, what we need is to take action.	[14:59]
mircea_popescu	i guess another religion confronts its intellectual bankruptcy.	[14:59]
ThickAsThieves	BTC In doubled 2 days ago, quadrupled last night	[14:59]
Bugpowder	kik	[14:59]
Bugpowder	deepceleron whale watch	[15:00]
pgp	I agreed SDICE is the a defensive USD/BTC play	[15:00]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.msg1853130#msg1853130	[15:01]
Bugpowder	what da fuck is this plot doing? http://blockchain.info/charts/balance?address=12N3m1zR6dkovEZ8fP9LkZkbgtKVX6iGwd	[15:01]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:01]
Bugpowder	I think calling that guy a 'whale' is being a little generous.	[15:01]
pizzaman1337	that chart is awesome	[15:02]
ThickAsThieves	that is a time travel plot	[15:02]
ThickAsThieves	revisionist charting?	[15:02]
Scrat	lol	[15:02]
Bugpowder	I'd restrict whales to someone with proven 10k btc in a set of addresses and is hammering s.dice for bets of >100BTC for long stretches.	[15:02]
pgp	impossible chart?	[15:02]
ThickAsThieves	skyline of Tokyo 3030?	[15:03]
Scrat	http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq302/North_Nitro/HURRDURR.png	[15:03]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:03]
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ThickAsThieves	maybe double spend attempts causing that chart?	[15:04]
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Bugpowder	;;calc 550000.0032	[15:08]
gribble	3300	[15:08]
Bugpowder	;;calc 3300*60	[15:09]
gribble	198000	[15:09]
Bugpowder	mtgox only making $200,000 today	[15:09]
kakobrekla	bummer	[15:09]
pgp	interesting to note that at bitfinex, they have changed margin rules - they use to offer 5x - I guess that didn't work out so good for them... they still have 400k lent out in margin, but at an average annual rate of ONLY 84% - used to be consistently over 300%... Sentiment indicator?	[15:10]
kakobrekla	hmm	[15:10]
kakobrekla	interesting indeed	[15:10]
pgp	i'll be they go smoked trying to liquidate some margin accounts....	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	i am boggled anyone'd take that thing seriously.	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	they are using the bitcoinica codebase they've stolen ffs.	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	what more ? what more could one do to be untrustworthy ?	[15:12]
Namworld	Well as long as someone can fix the security issues of the script (unless funds were actually stolen by the admin)... although it casts some serious doubts about the safety of such a thing.	[15:15]
Namworld	meh	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	no.	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	currently bitcoin contains this throng of idiots who literally have no standard.	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	if you go by them there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING one can do to fuck up.	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	this will ensure bitcoin's failure on the long term if allowed to continue.	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	there must be standards, and if those standards are breached the person must be dead.	[15:16]
pizzaman1337	dead?	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	dead.	[15:16]
Scrat	pk'd	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	there's currently absolutely nothing jared kenna can do to become a bitcoin business person again.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	nothing at all.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	repaying all his debts ? nope, doesn't do it.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	build a temple to satoshi ? mnope, doesn't do it.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	you scam, you're dead.	[15:17]
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Namworld	I didn't say it was good, I said it COULD be possible to reuse some failed codebase if someone fixed it. Not that I think this is likely to have occured.	[15:18]
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mircea_popescu	but! they didn;t obtain permission!	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	the bitcoinica victims, one of their avenues to recover something of their lost money	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	would have been codebase licensing. for fixing etc.	[15:19]
Namworld	yeah but that's not happening regardless, does it?	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	doesn't seem likely. i have no idea who'd fix ror code.	[15:20]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38711.msg1853238#msg1853238	[15:20]
kakobrekla	idiots	[15:20]
kakobrekla	srsly	[15:20]
kakobrekla	that is why bitcoin is fucked	[15:20]
Namworld	Maybe I should read more about these cases, but I can't care enough to go and do it.	[15:20]
kakobrekla	"young enterpreneurs and still learning their business"	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla how much you got locked there ?	[15:20]
kakobrekla	fuck you.	[15:20]
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kakobrekla	30k	[15:20]
kakobrekla	not much but eh	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	"young entrepreneurs learning the business" heh.	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	that's exactly what i[m talking about.	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	"he's a young dentist learning dentistry".	[15:21]
mircea_popescu	on your teeth motherfucker. this is okay. because most retards are tauight how to write and nothing else, then given internet access.	[15:22]
Bugpowder	New Major Lazer out today. noice	[15:22]
Namworld	Honestly, if someone is going to make an exchange or anything without much experience, make it clear BTC withdrawals will take a long time to process. Because there won't be a hotwallet.	[15:24]
kakobrekla	i am talking fiat money here	[15:25]
kakobrekla	the tx is 'pending confirmation' for days now	[15:25]
kakobrekla	fuck you and give me my money	[15:25]
Namworld	eh... that's no good either	[15:26]
pgp	holding up fiat is just plain bad business...	[15:26]
kakobrekla	Namworld the problem is	[15:26]
kakobrekla	noone who is sane	[15:26]
kakobrekla	would make fiat exchange	[15:26]
kakobrekla	in the FIRST PLAE	[15:26]
kakobrekla	PLACE	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[15:26]
pgp	BTC, expecially large amounts, i understand. Do you prefer convenience or security?	[15:27]
pgp	bounce!	[15:27]
pgp	got a little longer overnight - scale seller over 65 methinks	[15:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83501 BTC [-]	[15:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.835 BTC [-]	[15:30]
pgp	gox 24h volume at 547k... that's HUGE...	[15:31]
unbalanced	;;seen jurov	[15:32]
gribble	jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 hours, 2 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: no wonder everyone uses ;;next	[15:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.24999998 BTC [+]	[15:35]
pgp	future fiat exchange will need blessing of govt and prolly a banking license to be truly succesful	[15:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1118 @ 0.00071387 = 0.7981 BTC [+]	[15:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6682 @ 0.00071 = 4.7442 BTC [-]	[15:36]
pgp	friendly jurisdictions like panama, malta, gibralter, costa rica, even	[15:36]
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error4733	or just use ripple instead !	[15:40]
Bugpowder	pgp No lag = more trades	[15:40]
BitHub	bitcoinmilf	[15:40]
BitHub	scrat ?	[15:41]
BitHub	let me know about teh asset	[15:41]
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Namworld	547k... impressive	[15:44]
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deadweasel_work	are we going to bounce around this week and still return to 30$?	[15:44]
deadweasel_work	or is 50 the bottom?	[15:45]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[15:46]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 59.00100, Best ask: 59.92000, Bid-ask spread: 0.91900, Last trade: 59.89000, 24 hour volume: 547666.44717794, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.89155	[15:46]
error4733	;;next	[15:47]
gribble	57-58 support \| resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 \| upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| highest targets 111-113 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 48 seconds ago	[15:47]
Namworld	I'd be surprised 50 is the bottom	[15:48]
Namworld	Also I don't understand how this support/resistance is calculated...	[15:49]
Namworld	This data looks dubious	[15:50]
pgp	;;bids 30	[15:52]
gribble	There are currently 130246.66 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 5550385.33549 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 8.8607 seconds	[15:52]
pgp	;;bids 90	[15:52]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 90.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 19.9924 seconds	[15:52]
pgp	;;asks 90	[15:52]
gribble	There are currently 51116.173 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 3911649.1496 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 32.4811 seconds	[15:52]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[15:53]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 59.29001, Best ask: 59.66249, Bid-ask spread: 0.37248, Last trade: 59.66249, 24 hour volume: 547741.83685989, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.88007	[15:53]
ThickAsThieves	50 isnt bottom	[15:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.47000001 = 1.41 BTC [-]	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.47 = 0.94 BTC [-]	[15:55]
pgp	;;next	[15:55]
gribble	57-58 support \| resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 \| upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| highest targets 111-113 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 16 seconds ago	[15:55]
ThickAsThieves	14 hours ago: There are currently 35974.547 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD	[15:55]
ThickAsThieves	;;asks 100	[15:55]
gribble	There are currently 68671.866 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5613040.35424 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 63.7432 seconds	[15:55]
Bugpowder	deadweasel: I suspect we could bounce as high as 90 in the next few days, but also expect to see 30 or below sometime in the next 3	[15:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.09001 BTC [-]	[15:56]
Namworld	We've accumulated a nice 68k BTC asks under 100 USD/BTC. It keeps raising, bids keeps lowering. Looks like mostly people cashing out right now.	[15:56]
Bugpowder	3 months	[15:56]
error4733	;;bids 49.9	[15:56]
gribble	There are currently 33142.458 bitcoins demanded at or over 49.9 USD, worth 1740332.85768 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 89.1672 seconds	[15:56]
ThickAsThieves	;;market --sell 20000	[15:56]
gribble	A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 1080445.3355 USD and would take the last price down to 51.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 54.0223 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 115.8273 seconds	[15:56]
ThickAsThieves	;;market --sell 30000	[15:56]
gribble	A market order to sell 30000 bitcoins right now would net 1585346.9489 USD and would take the last price down to 50.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 52.8449 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 0.0009 seconds	[15:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.45 = 0.9 BTC [-]	[15:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.445 = 0.89 BTC [-]	[15:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.441 = 0.882 BTC [-]	[15:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.44 = 1.76 BTC [-]	[15:57]
Bugpowder	similar level of bids were there when I went to bed	[15:57]
deadweasel_work	Bugpowder: that follows previous bubble behavior, no?	[15:57]
ThickAsThieves	so 50 would only be bottom if no one dodges falling price	[15:57]
Bugpowder	got cleaned out then bounced to 66 in the space of 3 hours	[15:57]
Namworld	yeah	[15:57]
Bugpowder	deadweasel_work: yes. That's really the only thing I'm going on here.	[15:58]
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error4733	when you try to compare with 2011 bubble, dont forget MTgox hack ! less than a week after crash	[15:58]
Bugpowder	true	[15:58]
Bugpowder	well… get ready for a hack then!	[15:58]
Bugpowder	:)	[15:58]
Namworld	well we've had lots of bounce. People each time hoped for a quick rise back so they could sell their BTC they bought at a premium.	[15:58]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:58]
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Namworld	http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg10zigHourlyztgSza1gEMAzm1g10za2gEMAzm2g50zv	[15:58]
Namworld	Still looks strongly bearish	[15:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 1 @ 0.00195 BTC [-]	[15:59]
ThickAsThieves	yep ADX also falls whenever buying increases	[15:59]
pgp	i agree, though I think we could break out here to upper 60's	[16:00]
pgp	then come back down	[16:00]
Bugpowder	Trend is yo friend	[16:00]
Bugpowder	when it was going up, buy the dips, buy calls	[16:00]
Bugpowder	when its going down, wait it out, or take short term long positions on sharp selloffs, selling the bounce, if you must trade	[16:01]
Namworld	yeah	[16:01]
ThickAsThieves	we'll plateau or slight slope until buying/volume subsides, then dumping will resume	[16:02]
Bugpowder	The beatings will continue until morale improves	[16:03]
Scrat	;;eightball will we stabilize	[16:03]
gribble	What are you asking me for?	[16:03]
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ThickAsThieves	;;eightball Will we see 40 in less than 24 hours?	[16:04]
gribble	NO.	[16:04]
ThickAsThieves	:(	[16:04]
Namworld	;;eightball Will we see 40 USD/BTC in less than 24 hours?	[16:04]
gribble	It is so.	[16:04]
ThickAsThieves	oh it thought i meant something else	[16:05]
Scrat	if I were filthy rich I'd make a bot that trades based on gribble's eightball, just for kicks	[16:05]
ThickAsThieves	maybe age	[16:05]
Namworld	He must have confused 40 for something else	[16:05]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[16:05]
ThickAsThieves	my birthday is soon, not 40 just yet	[16:05]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[16:06]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 59.89701, Best ask: 59.91000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01299, Last trade: 59.91000, 24 hour volume: 549138.33281102, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.83756	[16:06]
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thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[16:06]
gribble	69.26	[16:06]
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ThickAsThieves	;;gribble If you gave 3 wishes, could I wish for more wishes?	[16:06]
gribble	yes I am gribble. why do you keep bothering me?	[16:06]
ThickAsThieves	fine	[16:06]
ThickAsThieves	;;eightball If you gave 3 wishes, could I wish for more wishes?	[16:07]
gribble	It is so.	[16:07]
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error4733	;;eightball will satoshi come back ?	[16:09]
gribble	Naturally.	[16:09]
error4733	;;eightball will satoshi say it was a big joke ?	[16:09]
gribble	The outlook is good.	[16:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.05000003 BTC [-]	[16:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00070758 = 6.0498 BTC [-]	[16:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6900 @ 0.0007028 = 4.8493 BTC [-]	[16:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1400 @ 0.0006965 = 0.9751 BTC [-]	[16:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00069512 = 1.8421 BTC [-]	[16:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 5 @ 0.09 = 0.45 BTC [-]	[16:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.07201 BTC [-]	[16:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-]	[16:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 35 @ 0.06 = 2.1 BTC [-]	[16:13]
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kmoneylongshanks	anyone heard anything from the people behind crypto trade?	[16:16]
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ThickAsThieves	just that they like moving their open date	[16:18]
Bugpowder	coinlab?	[16:18]
Bugpowder	:)	[16:18]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5139 @ 0.00071387 = 3.6686 BTC [+]	[16:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.00421 = 0.0211 BTC [+]	[16:23]
pgp	upside breakout?	[16:26]
Bugpowder	falling asleep over here TBH	[16:27]
Bugpowder	lets see it hit 62	[16:27]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[16:28]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 61.00102, Best ask: 61.69899, Bid-ask spread: 0.69797, Last trade: 61.00102, 24 hour volume: 552465.69282423, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.74805	[16:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.00377 = 0.0754 BTC [-]	[16:32]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[16:38]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 61.49999, Best ask: 61.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 61.49999, 24 hour volume: 553160.98601480, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 98.22700, 24 hour vwap: 68.72244	[16:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 60 @ 0.0036 = 0.216 BTC [-]	[16:38]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.google.com/search?q=scott+locklin&tbs=qdr:d lol	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if he learns by it.	[16:41]
pgp	all this 0.01 shit on the gox book is ridiculous...	[16:41]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5087 @ 0.00071387 = 3.6315 BTC [+]	[16:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4312 @ 0.00071404 = 3.0789 BTC [+]	[16:45]
ThickAsThieves	it speaks volumes	[16:45]
ThickAsThieves	badoom	[16:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.88 = 4.4 BTC [+]	[16:46]
ThickAsThieves	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130982.msg1850804#msg1850804	[16:46]
ThickAsThieves	avalon is unplugging units and shipping	[16:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]	[16:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]	[16:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.89999 = 2.7 BTC [+]	[16:47]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.851 BTC [-]	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves interesting.	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	;;nethash	[16:52]
gribble	65688.1558736	[16:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]	[16:54]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1060 @ 0.01 = 10.6 BTC [+]	[16:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.86 BTC [+]	[17:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.855 BTC [-]	[17:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-]	[17:02]
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Bugpowder	Rally looks great on the M1	[17:03]
Bugpowder	then I switch to M15	[17:03]
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pgp	68 i sprolly top	[17:05]
pgp	if it clearly 60's, there's a pretty good shot at upper 70's , i think	[17:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.83 BTC [-]	[17:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8222 BTC [-]	[17:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.81003 = 4.0502 BTC [-]	[17:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.81002 = 4.0501 BTC [-]	[17:07]
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Namworld	lol, who trades on M1?	[17:07]
Namworld	I know I don't...	[17:07]
Bugpowder	me	[17:08]
Bugpowder	last night	[17:08]
pgp	and me	[17:08]
kakobrekla	scalpers	[17:08]
pgp	there are cycles within cycles...	[17:08]
pgp	c'mon	[17:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]	[17:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.15 BTC [+]	[17:11]
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pgp	wow	[17:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.81 = 8.1 BTC [-]	[17:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 15 @ 0.8 = 12 BTC [-]	[17:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.8 = 1.6 BTC [-]	[17:12]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.792 BTC [-]	[17:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 12 @ 0.79101 = 9.4921 BTC [-]	[17:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.79101 = 2.373 BTC [-]	[17:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.791 = 23.73 BTC [-]	[17:18]
Namworld	these PUTs are pricey	[17:18]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.790001 = 5.53 BTC [-]	[17:18]
Namworld	anyone selling better priced PUTs?	[17:18]
pgp	they are impossibly priced - all put > 1 by bot	[17:19]
Namworld	yeah	[17:19]
Namworld	although at half the strike value, they're worth 1 BTC already...	[17:19]
Namworld	but still	[17:20]
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Namworld	best puts are in the money at 32 USD/BTC	[17:21]
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mircea_popescu	pgp 1 is a max for calls, it has no particular relaiton to puts.	[17:23]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[17:29]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 60.97661, Best ask: 61.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.52339, Last trade: 61.84948, 24 hour volume: 562839.81439493, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 97.69000, 24 hour vwap: 68.46823	[17:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 5 @ 1.080704 = 5.4035 BTC [+]	[17:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00069802 = 3.4901 BTC [-]	[17:39]
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pgp	$avg	[17:40]
mpexbot	pgp: 68.88	[17:40]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C062N] 3 @ 0.80630438 = 2.4189 BTC [+]	[17:41]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00069512 = 3.8927 BTC [-]	[17:46]
jcpham	http://forum.kink.com/thread/33662	[17:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8007 @ 0.00069311 = 5.5497 BTC [-]	[17:47]
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ThickAsThieves	Bitcoin is a deadly pyramid scheme!	[17:48]
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pgp	mp: i understand that puts can be > 1, but if you look at it from a USD perspective all the put are guranteed losers, right?	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	how so ?	[17:50]
pgp	am i right in assuming that O.USD.P050T is "best" put right now?	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	well... what's a best put ?	[17:51]
ThickAsThieves	the one with the lowest break even i suppose would be the "safest"	[17:51]
pgp	lowest implied vol? just want to walk through an example	[17:51]
ThickAsThieves	which would be somewhere around P074	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	ok, let's try the example then. [MPEX] [O.USD.P050T] 5 @ 1.080704 = 5.4035 BTC [+]	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	if you atm have 5.4035 btc, their value is whatever, 300 bucks.	[17:52]
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pgp	yes...	[17:52]
ThickAsThieves	sry ignore me	[17:52]
ThickAsThieves	was looking atcalls	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	if you keep it as btc and btc goes to $6, you have 30 bucks. so from a fiat perspective lost 90% of your fortune.	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	if you trade it for puts and btc goes to $6, you now have 44/6 * 5 = 35 btc or so.	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	even if you count those at $6 each, it's hardly a loser compared to 30 bucks.	[17:53]
ThickAsThieves	best put atm is 89	[17:54]
pgp	35 BTC * 6 = $210	[17:54]
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pgp	I started with $300	[17:54]
pgp	no way to win in fiat terms	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	yes well, you didn't. you started with 5 btc.	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	the easy way to get 300 is to sell out.	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	basically the bot is of the opinion BTC is fucked,	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	on the strength of what it saw in the charts.	[17:56]
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mircea_popescu	this is something we've been discussing at length yest i thought ?	[17:56]
pgp	look at the trade in the sense that I start in fiat and end in fiat - guaranteed loser	[17:56]
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ThickAsThieves	no puts or calls are really worth it atm	[17:56]
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mircea_popescu	as far as the bot is concerned, bitcoin is a dead horse it would seem.	[17:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00063 = 0.0013 BTC [+]	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	that was the entire point of yest's convo	[17:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 8 @ 0.00062 = 0.005 BTC [-]	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	bit is scurred	[17:57]
pgp	if we used your prices, converted to USD and computed like convention option in USD, all puts are guaranteed losers...	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	bot*	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	so sell btc instead	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	bot does not want out business	[17:57]
ThickAsThieves	our*	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	more like "nothing that goes from 20 to 260 and then down to 60 has a future"	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	which, on the strength of that alone, i find difficult to contest	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	meh	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	and the bot only sees graphs, charts and so forth.	[17:59]
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ThickAsThieves	a little obtuse imo	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	it doesn't make judgements as of technology etc.	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	well ofcourse. it's a bot after all.	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	it could still be making money	[17:59]
ThickAsThieves	if it was smarter	[18:00]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.0042 = 0.063 BTC [+]	[18:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00421 = 0.0589 BTC [+]	[18:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 157 @ 0.004285 = 0.6727 BTC [+]	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	bot is an instrument in the volatility game, yet goes to bed when things get volatile	[18:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 52 @ 0.004287 = 0.2229 BTC [+]	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	yes. just like the guy on first base is an instrument in the game of baseball	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	yet he leaves the field once somebody takes out a machete.	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[18:03]
jborkl	micrea_popescu can you clear a deposit	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	one of the key factors eveeryone has to consider when promoting idiocy,	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	is machetes	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	whether it's pirate idiocy like gigavps did, or price idiocy like keiser & co did, or simple technical idiocy like pushing tradehill or coinbase etc :	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	as stupidity is promoted, sense simply leaves.	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	like you said, we already discussed this, so I shouldnt beat the dead horse, but in the end the bot is flawed	[18:05]
ThickAsThieves	not a horrible crime	[18:06]
*	guruvan wonders if the bot is flawed or smart	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	im not terivbly sure it's flawed.	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	we are looking into it, but overall it's a difficult argument.	[18:06]
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mircea_popescu	anwyay. deposits flushed.	[18:07]
guruvan	I wouldn't let most any of my own automated trader bots trade in this market	[18:07]
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mircea_popescu	the chief idea here is that mechanisms that exist to make this a market, and serious, and worth money, and respectable,	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	can be wrecked by people being idiots.	[18:07]
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mircea_popescu	inasmuch as people behave idiotically they have not the right to functioning mechanisms, nor are entitled to actual service.	[18:08]
guruvan	swing machetes made of USD around wildly in the air	[18:08]
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mircea_popescu	i guess the one most bitter lesson btc will force down people's throats is that elusive personal responsibility thing.	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	that conservatives always roil about and socialists keep pretending to have never quite heard of.	[18:09]
ThickAsThieves	didnt know the bot was so political	[18:09]
guruvan	maybe the bot should tweet	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	nature of the world is political sadly.	[18:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 90 @ 0.2 = 18 BTC	[18:13]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 18 @ 0.2 = 3.6 BTC	[18:17]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.861 BTC [+]	[18:19]
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kakobrekla	17:22.30 ( coinmaster ) [MtGox] BTC 66.920 USD (-1.280 USD)	[18:25]
kakobrekla	17:22.34 ( coinmaster ) [Stamp] BTC 74.780 USD (+0.780 USD)	[18:25]
kakobrekla	lulz	[18:25]
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kakobrekla	/rally -on	[18:26]
kakobrekla	!r CyrusAFK	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZaOhMk1r5I	[18:28]
kakobrekla	well	[18:28]
kakobrekla	we have some buying happening	[18:28]
kakobrekla	76	[18:28]
kakobrekla	77	[18:28]
kakobrekla	lmao	[18:28]
kakobrekla	78	[18:28]
ThickAsThieves	hold for my deposits plzzzzz	[18:28]
kakobrekla	someone wanted 10k btc	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.80101 BTC [-]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.790301 = 3.9515 BTC [-]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7903 = 1.5806 BTC [-]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7903 = 1.5806 BTC [-]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.790233 = 2.3707 BTC [-]	[18:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.790202 = 3.951 BTC [-]	[18:29]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7902 BTC [-]	[18:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7901 = 3.9505 BTC [-]	[18:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 9 @ 0.79 = 7.11 BTC [-]	[18:30]
ThickAsThieves	so everything's back to normal!	[18:30]
ThickAsThieves	buy buy buy ;)	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	lag is back?	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[18:31]
gribble	MtGox lag is 8.284369 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0166017827196 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin one full loop along the orbit of the Moon around Earth (0.016 AU).	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	got pizza on the processor again	[18:32]
*	ThickAsThieves puts on his tinfoil hat	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	So now they freez at high price	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	to influence markets	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	to buy	[18:33]
ThickAsThieves	for another big dump	[18:33]
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ThickAsThieves	;;goxlag	[18:33]
gribble	MtGox lag is 2.067305 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0041428560733 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU).	[18:33]
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bgupta	ddos?	[18:34]
joecool	quality	[18:34]
bgupta	feels ddos-like since sites other mtgox are acting wonky	[18:34]
joecool	that's the upgraded hardware	[18:34]
joecool	doing its job	[18:34]
pgp	and back down again	[18:34]
bgupta	other than mtgox	[18:34]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[18:35]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 71.13370, Best ask: 71.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.06629, Last trade: 71.30500, 24 hour volume: 599982.61592459, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 96.41990, 24 hour vwap: 68.47706	[18:35]
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ThickAsThieves	burnside wake up!	[18:36]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1551 BTC [+]	[18:39]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC	[18:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 1 @ 0.2 BTC	[18:44]
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pizzaman1337	;;ticker	[18:51]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 77.00000, Best ask: 77.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 77.00000, 24 hour volume: 604694.37166289, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 96.35000, 24 hour vwap: 68.48964	[18:51]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00365 = 7.3 BTC [+]	[18:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00365001 = 3.65 BTC [+]	[18:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00355003 = 3.55 BTC [-]	[18:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 15 @ 0.2 = 3 BTC	[18:58]
KRS-1	looking much better	[18:58]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC	[18:59]
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pgp	24h volume is 614k on gox - my, my, that's a lot of coin	[19:06]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]	[19:13]
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Namworld	pgp: I have traded over 2500 BTC on ~250 BTC...	[19:15]
Namworld	614k is probably less than actual BTC traded, probably a good chunk of back and forth	[19:16]
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Namworld	Fortunately...	[19:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.43 = 1.72 BTC [+]	[19:18]
error4733	;;next	[19:19]
gribble	57-58 support \| resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 \| upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| highest targets 111-113 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 5 hours, 39 minutes, and 17 seconds ago	[19:19]
Namworld	...	[19:21]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]	[19:23]
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Diablo-D3	;;next	[19:24]
gribble	57-58 support \| resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 \| upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| highest targets 111-113 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 5 hours, 44 minutes, and 6 seconds ago	[19:24]
Diablo-D3	oh nice	[19:24]
kakobrekla	this is not nice	[19:24]
kakobrekla	you are not polite	[19:24]
kakobrekla	behave.	[19:24]
jurov	;;ticker	[19:24]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 75.00000, Best ask: 75.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20000, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 619256.52243863, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 95.99999, 24 hour vwap: 68.57269	[19:24]
jurov	95? when?	[19:25]
kakobrekla	yesterday	[19:25]
Namworld	yeah	[19:25]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14399 BTC [-]	[19:27]
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jcpham	http://jcph.am/2013/04/15/good-love/	[19:27]
jcpham	more blog	[19:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 2112 @ 0.0036 = 7.6032 BTC [+]	[19:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00350001 = 3.5 BTC [-]	[19:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 13 @ 0.2 = 2.6 BTC	[19:29]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+]	[19:31]
kakobrekla	hm	[19:31]
kakobrekla	i just switched that video to 2.30 or smth	[19:31]
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kakobrekla	whats that garbage	[19:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 2 @ 0.2 = 0.4 BTC	[19:32]
kakobrekla	failing to imitate outcast	[19:32]
jcpham	cats in heat murdering each other	[19:32]
joecool	HIV	[19:32]
jcpham	marvin gaye after that	[19:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]	[19:32]
error4733	;;asks 89.9	[19:33]
gribble	There are currently 28254.964 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 2384060.18064 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 34.7650 seconds	[19:33]
KRS-1	;;bids 80	[19:33]
gribble	There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 46.6460 seconds	[19:33]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00340001 = 3.4 BTC [-]	[19:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P059T] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC	[19:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3740 @ 0.00069482 = 2.5986 BTC [+]	[19:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14001 BTC [-]	[19:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.14 BTC [-]	[19:37]
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Scrat	;;ticker --vol	[19:44]
gribble	625728.90077261	[19:44]
Scrat	sick	[19:44]
error4733	;;asks 89.9	[19:45]
gribble	There are currently 24685.39 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 2107078.45197 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds	[19:45]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[19:46]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 80.25100, Best ask: 80.44815, Bid-ask spread: 0.19715, Last trade: 80.44815, 24 hour volume: 629746.79613590, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 95.90000, 24 hour vwap: 68.70007	[19:46]
ThickAsThieves	;;next	[19:47]
gribble	57-58 support \| resistance: 70, 77, 85-88 \| upper target in case of breakout mid-90s - 100 \| highest targets 111-113 \| updated by OneFixt at Apr 16 2013, 10:40 UTC ( tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 ) \| disclaimer: http://bit.ly/129bYJ6 \| this is not investment or trading advice \| #bitcoin-analysis \| 6 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago	[19:47]
error4733	;;eightball 90$ today ?	[19:47]
gribble	The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!	[19:47]
Bugpowder	it was just a temporary setback guys	[19:48]
Bugpowder	moving ALL IN	[19:48]
Namworld	;;eightball Will price go down to 40 USD/BTC today?	[19:48]
gribble	The answer is certainly yes.	[19:48]
error4733	go home eightball u'r drunk	[19:49]
error4733	still 70% cashed out bug ?	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	lol	[19:50]
Bugpowder	nope	[19:50]
Bugpowder	100%	[19:50]
Bugpowder	actually	[19:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.17999 BTC [+]	[19:50]
Namworld	100% cashed out... sounds like me	[19:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 2 @ 0.18 = 0.36 BTC [+]	[19:50]
Bugpowder	need to cash out the proceeds from the call sales	[19:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1885 BTC [+]	[19:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 6 @ 0.19 = 1.14 BTC [+]	[19:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 100 @ 0.19 = 19 BTC [+]	[19:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.37 = 3.7 BTC [+]	[19:52]
kakobrekla	you are moving in at 80?	[19:52]
error4733	he wait for 30	[19:52]
kakobrekla	18:48.24 ( Bugpowder ) moving ALL IN	[19:52]
Bugpowder	joking	[19:52]
Bugpowder	sorry	[19:52]
kakobrekla	well i wouldnt be suprised tbh	[19:53]
error4733	;;asks 89.9	[19:53]
Bugpowder	hee hee	[19:53]
gribble	There are currently 20219.645 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 1753446.30424 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0031 seconds	[19:53]
Bugpowder	I just wish I hadn't sold what I picked up at 52 and 51 last night	[19:53]
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Bugpowder	good trade needs good entry, check, good exit, FAIL.	[19:54]
kakobrekla	exit is the bigger part of the trade	[19:54]
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error4733	;;goxlag	[19:55]
gribble	MtGox lag is 18.6353 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0373449325488 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU).	[19:55]
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Bugpowder	OK. Final Ponzi Plot update. Future updates will start from $1 again.	[20:01]
Bugpowder	http://i.imgur.com/weHoYzJ.png	[20:01]
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Bugpowder	dope track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSaYQc3z7us	[20:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00069482 = 2.7793 BTC [+]	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/because-most-people-are-idiots-in-spite-of-never-manning-up-and-admitting-to-it/#comment-92759	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	there's a bunch of people looking to verbally invest into btc	[20:05]
Bugpowder	lol	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	i'm getting a few dozen a week by now.	[20:05]
mircea_popescu	i wonder what's the headcount of bullshit artists at today. 4bn ? 7bn ?	[20:05]
Bugpowder	You know what's cooler than claiming a $100,000 investment in BTC? Claiming a $10,000,000 investment.	[20:07]
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mircea_popescu	you know what's more idiotic than claiming you're a millionaire while begging for free pizza ?	[20:07]
Bugpowder	no imagination these days.	[20:08]
Bugpowder	gotta think big peopel!	[20:08]
kakobrekla	i think some became millionaries by begging for free pizzas	[20:09]
error4733	some became millionaries with 2 pizzas	[20:10]
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kakobrekla	yeah mp you really should have picked a different dish	[20:10]
kakobrekla	pizzas have implications.	[20:11]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[20:11]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 74.20000, Best ask: 74.38000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18000, Last trade: 75.00000, 24 hour volume: 643361.01494130, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 94.67089, 24 hour vwap: 68.78895	[20:11]
Bugpowder	One of the more exciting moments from last night... http://i.imgur.com/2cJLOTO.png	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla they do ?! what ?	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	o nm lol.	[20:11]
mircea_popescu	yeah. baklava.	[20:11]
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kakobrekla	yeah i pasted a link to the book when it was showing that	[20:12]
kakobrekla	but dub said 'wut'	[20:12]
Bugpowder	yes and I capped it	[20:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00065 BTC [-]	[20:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.00064 = 0.128 BTC [-]	[20:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00063 = 0.0032 BTC [-]	[20:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 40 @ 0.00062 = 0.0248 BTC [-]	[20:14]
kakobrekla	>>http://i.imgur.com/2cJLOTO.png	[20:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 250 @ 0.00061 = 0.1525 BTC [-]	[20:14]
kakobrekla	did you name it LOTO ?	[20:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 20 @ 0.000609 = 0.0122 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000608 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 726 @ 0.000608 = 0.4414 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 99 @ 0.000607 = 0.0601 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0006 = 0.0024 BTC [-]	[20:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 200 @ 0.0006 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	there goes the 50-100k investment ;/	[20:15]
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Bugpowder	nope	[20:15]
kakobrekla	cause it was a lottery	[20:15]
Bugpowder	its the new YOLO	[20:16]
kakobrekla	hehe	[20:16]
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Bugpowder	646,000 BTC / 24hr	[20:18]
Bugpowder	just keeps rising	[20:18]
kakobrekla	good sign i guess	[20:18]
Bugpowder	lack of lag is nice	[20:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00058 BTC [-]	[20:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3725 @ 0.000566 = 2.1084 BTC [-]	[20:19]
jcpham	my wife just brought me a sandwich and walked out	[20:20]
Bugpowder	I wonder how much added liquidity is a result of the reduced fees from couting all the volume during the free trade period towards current fee schedule.	[20:20]
Scrat	jcpham: sounds like a good wife	[20:20]
jcpham	i'm speechless	[20:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 16 @ 0.003811 = 0.061 BTC [-]	[20:20]
kakobrekla	jcpham you need to start with domestication early	[20:20]
kakobrekla	thats is the trick	[20:20]
Scrat	it's just the whales playing with each other	[20:21]
Scrat	they will get bored	[20:21]
jcpham	it has bacon on it too	[20:21]
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error4733	she know you have hard time	[20:21]
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kakobrekla	theyll get borred and go back fapping sdice	[20:21]
Scrat	the bugpowdery whales	[20:21]
deadweasel_work	well you already married her, all you can do now is eat your sandwich	[20:21]
jcpham	ikr	[20:21]
jcpham	need to do something for her	[20:22]
kakobrekla	return empty plate?	[20:22]
jcpham	perfect plan!	[20:22]
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error4733	ask for a second round, best compliment ever	[20:22]
deadweasel_work	just tell her you love her and don't dutch oven her. that should be good for a while.	[20:22]
Scrat	"blow me while i day trade honey"	[20:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.837 = 1.674 BTC [+]	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	so is jcpham dead from cyanide poisoning yet ?	[20:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.0006891 = 4.6514 BTC [-]	[20:23]
error4733	did she ask how reddem a private key yesterday ?	[20:24]
unbalanced	Bugpowder, what's the red USD scale in that last plot? USD/BTC? Thousands? I think I get the blue scale.	[20:24]
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jcpham	sadly she knows the passphrase to my wallet	[20:24]
Bugpowder	fold gain in $ terms	[20:25]
jcpham	...if only she knew how to mount an encrypted truecrypt container	[20:25]
error4733	so its 5 letter max ! sounds a bad passphrase !	[20:25]
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bitesak	;;bids 0	[20:27]
gribble	There are currently 52749739 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 12462919.8992 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 17.3470 seconds	[20:27]
error4733	16M$ yesterday :/ sick sick	[20:27]
Bugpowder	10M early this morning	[20:28]
unbalanced	Ah, it was just the $ on the axis labels throwing me off.	[20:28]
Bugpowder	I'm losing faith in the predictive power of this indicator	[20:28]
kakobrekla	there is a lot of noise	[20:29]
unbalanced	So the plot ends at 25x in USD terms, 3x in BTC terms. That'll do, pig. That'll do.	[20:30]
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Bugpowder	it sounds so small when you say it like that	[20:31]
unbalanced	(Has anyone seen the movie "Babe"? No?)	[20:31]
Bugpowder	the talking pig movie?	[20:32]
Bugpowder	no	[20:32]
unbalanced	File it under famous movie understatements.	[20:32]
unbalanced	The pig saves the farm, incredible achievements transpire, and the perpetually grumpy farmer finally says something positive.	[20:32]
unbalanced	http://stream.pleated-jeans.com/post/8902740029/thatll-do-pig	[20:33]
kakobrekla	lol	[20:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.51 = 1.02 BTC [+]	[20:37]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19499 BTC [+]	[20:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 113 @ 0.195 = 22.035 BTC [+]	[20:37]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.80599 = 8.0599 BTC [-]	[20:44]
jcpham	http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130416-909009.html	[20:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.805 BTC [-]	[20:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]	[20:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.801 BTC [-]	[20:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.791 = 15.82 BTC [-]	[20:44]
Scrat	binary bets :/	[20:45]
pgp	binany options is like satoshi dice... negative EV	[20:47]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19899 BTC [+]	[20:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.15001 BTC [-]	[20:50]
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Bugpowder	Back to 70	[20:52]
mircea_popescu	well pretty much every scam has to be tried out at least once	[20:52]
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Bugpowder	did u see the million dollar bitcoin homepage	[20:53]
Bugpowder	?	[20:53]
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deadweasel_work	lol, just read bitcoin-assets.com again. "- don’t slap yourself [in public] (yes you DeadWeasel), it’s spammy"	[20:56]
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pgp	thinking about getting long? http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/bad-idea-jeans/17w5aaq4o	[20:57]
kakobrekla	us only	[20:57]
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mircea_popescu	Bugpowder the million dollar bitycoin ? or the bitbillion ?	[20:58]
mircea_popescu	or bitmillions or w/e the fuck ? thye kinda run together by now	[20:58]
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Bugpowder	http://www.milliondollarbitcoinhomepage.com/faq.php	[20:59]
Bugpowder	The faq is pretty embarrassing... suprised he hasn't taken it down yet.	[20:59]
Bugpowder	Filling up fast. http://www.milliondollarbitcoinhomepage.com/index.php	[20:59]
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mircea_popescu	heh. is this a buttcoin parody ?	[21:01]
kakobrekla	i bought it all and painted gray	[21:01]
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mircea_popescu	"14.04.2013	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	Website Traffic	[21:01]
mircea_popescu	The site traffic is growing every day! Today almost 1,000 uniques and counting. Be the first to pick up your spot on the homepage. Prime time to pick the best spots =)"	[21:01]
deyyo	lol at the faq….that is so retarded	[21:02]
Bugpowder	he should seed the page with some fake ads	[21:03]
Bugpowder	put an mpex and mtgox ad on there	[21:03]
Bugpowder	give it some cred	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	he did ?!	[21:03]
mircea_popescu	Available: 1,000,000 Busy: 0	[21:04]
mircea_popescu	where ?	[21:04]
kakobrekla	im just trying to see how much it costs to write fuck you there but its expecive as shit	[21:04]
Bugpowder	he should	[21:04]
Bugpowder	not clever enough	[21:04]
jcpham	http://i.imgur.com/9uxIPKb.png	[21:05]
jcpham	I WIN	[21:05]
Bugpowder	the street musician ALWAYS has some money in the hat	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	he's not smart enough to make a buck busking	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	hence why he's on the internet.	[21:05]
mircea_popescu	also, 100 dollars per pixel ? what's this to do with bitcoins.	[21:06]
jcpham	shrug i got bored of drawing dicks	[21:06]
jcpham	doesn't minesweeper for shit	[21:07]
joecool	8======>~~~~~~~~	[21:07]
jcpham	never found a single mine	[21:07]
kakobrekla	lol	[21:07]
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mircea_popescu	lol	[21:07]
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mircea_popescu	thats because you're so good at it.	[21:08]
jcpham	drawing dicks or playing minesweeper ;)?	[21:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.71 = 5.13 BTC [+]	[21:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.70000001 BTC [-]	[21:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.7 = 8.5 BTC [-]	[21:09]
mircea_popescu	yea	[21:09]
kakobrekla	finding dick patterns in the freemine zone	[21:09]
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joecool	that's a minesweeping tactic	[21:09]
jcpham	here's a funny story	[21:09]
jcpham	this one time i was sitting around this campfire	[21:10]
joecool	the dicks i mean	[21:10]
jcpham	this 12 year old kid blurts out	[21:10]
jcpham	"that fire looks like satan's penis!"	[21:10]
jcpham	i say	[21:10]
jcpham	"excuse me, were you thinking about dicks just now?"	[21:10]
jcpham	everyone laughs at kid	[21:10]
pgp	kid commits suicide...	[21:11]
jcpham	yeah...	[21:11]
jcpham	poor guy was broken in front of his peers	[21:11]
Diablo-D3	the only proper response to that is "I was thinking how your mom fits mine perfectly"	[21:13]
pgp	only response	[21:13]
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mircea_popescu	that awkward moment when you're watching a vid of some girls going down some stairs and exlaim "wait a second, this is that hotel in belgrade"	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	only to immediately realise that a. yes it is, b. they're getting banged and c. that's actually when you were there.	[21:17]
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mircea_popescu	worse than satan penis. now people think i'm going senile.	[21:17]
jurov	how does that follow?	[21:17]
jurov	you forgot you filmed them?	[21:18]
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mircea_popescu	i didn't film it	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	i was just there in case they needed money to replace destroyed underwear etc.	[21:19]
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joecool	sounds reasonable	[21:20]
deadweasel_work	my underwear is in tatters: 1GdtkZzhZTzBssUq6bnE27cz4rv5SJ4sr5	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	must have proof first miss.	[21:21]
jurov	deadweasel you whore, how is my job?	[21:22]
deadweasel_work	it's in the queue.	[21:23]
jurov	don't tell me you fapped hard and spranied wrist again :)	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	this time he was tryhing something new	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	and sprained his thumb	[21:23]
deadweasel_work	new AND exciting!	[21:24]
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mircea_popescu	"This is not the case here. Paying the 30BTC doesn’t mean that other people can then trade via me and I will be able to earn commissions from their trades."	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	according to new research.	[21:28]
jurov	where? i so want to troll them that i paid for special broker license	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	on trilema	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	people have found the article where some doods who explain how $600 is way too much are being hammered, and want to add their own "$3000 is too much" contributions.	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	basically the internet is this place where funny just grows. like a sort of agar for humor.	[21:30]
KRS-1	or fungus	[21:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00069482 = 3.5158 BTC [+]	[21:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1315 @ 0.00069802 = 0.9179 BTC [+]	[21:32]
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jurov	Yes, you’re correct. For reselling MPEx account, you need special broker license from exclusive reseller such as CoinBr.com. To obtain it, please send 99 BTC to CoinBr662GWdiqVz8mXJUnYjWZbBchKAb .	[21:33]
jurov	ftw	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	no 1 ?	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	you started your own scamcoin ?	[21:33]
jurov	no, just issuing mpex broker licenses	[21:34]
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jurov	lets see what happens nao	[21:34]
gribble	MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU).	[21:34]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 69.22100, Best ask: 69.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.75900, Last trade: 69.22100, 24 hour volume: 657938.34800807, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 93.00998, 24 hour vwap: 68.33931	[21:34]
deadweasel_work	don't forget the monthly upkeep fee.	[21:35]
jurov	that's there, in fine print	[21:35]
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mircea_popescu	i wonder if the two are the same one guy.	[21:39]
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jborkl	holy shit, you see unconfirmed transactions	[21:45]
jborkl	5674	[21:45]
jborkl	well a block just went through, still over 5000	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[21:46]
Bugpowder	I see 962	[21:46]
jborkl	well, it just randomly changed for me also, now at 1100	[21:48]
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jborkl	back to showing 5300	[21:49]
Scrat	ahahah	[21:49]
Scrat	;;title https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IbSOHwCOnG0#t=304s	[21:49]
gribble	Keiser Report: Magic of Bitcoin Gathering (E432) - YouTube	[21:49]
Bugpowder	not for me	[21:50]
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kakobrekla	is this a parody on MTG?	[21:50]
Bugpowder	Wow. I never actually watched Max. He really looks and sounds like a troll.	[21:50]
Bugpowder	like a real troll	[21:51]
Scrat	you never know with max keiser	[21:51]
Scrat	poe's law applies	[21:51]
joecool	lol for real	[21:51]
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joecool	i wonder if he lives under a bridge, i notice there's a bridge in the background behind him	[21:51]
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jcpham	who's got a bridge for sale?	[21:52]
kakobrekla	no cause he sold his coins in time :)	[21:52]
jcpham	pretty sure keiser pumped and dumped already	[21:53]
jcpham	can't listen to him anymore	[21:53]
Namworld	Selling bridge! Only 200000 BTC!	[21:53]
deyyo	i couldn't watch him for more than 10 seconds...	[21:53]
Namworld	Yeah, I'm sure he sold near the top	[21:53]
deyyo	he just looks and sounds retarded	[21:53]
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Scrat	i have overlayed gollum on max keiser	[21:54]
Scrat	proportions match perfectly	[21:54]
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Namworld	He looks like gollum, but with more hairs and not yet as skinny	[21:55]
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error4733	some of you already bought something on bitmit ?	[21:55]
kakobrekla	its still better than half of the shit you find outthere about bitcoin	[21:55]
error4733	i need btc on my account before bidding or i can fill my account after & pay ?	[21:56]
Bugpowder	hmmm... gox is over 80% http://bitcoinity.org/markets/list?currency=ALL&span=24h	[21:56]
Bugpowder	I thought lower	[21:57]
Namworld	Scrat, maybe if Bitcoins dies one day, when all BTC are lost to lost keys, he'll have the last cascacius coin, the last bitcoin, saying "My Precious"	[21:58]
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pgp	"krugman is a complete bimbo"	[21:59]
kakobrekla	o lloky bitpay guy in the keiser show	[22:00]
kakobrekla	looky*	[22:00]
kakobrekla	he is everywhere	[22:00]
Scrat	Namworld :'(	[22:00]
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deadweasel_work	scrat, link us to gollum keiser?	[22:01]
kakobrekla	$vwap	[22:01]
mpexbot	kakobrekla: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ji7dHBNm	[22:01]
Scrat	sorry I exited photoshop in disgust	[22:01]
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Scrat	mtgox x232 3,021.3251 @ 68.73813904 USD	[22:04]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.51499989 BTC [+]	[22:08]
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kakobrekla	also wtf "even if you were to take over the network people would see it comming....... you cant fllip a switch and take 51% of the network"	[22:13]
kakobrekla	is he retarded?	[22:13]
kakobrekla	srsly	[22:13]
kakobrekla	even the big stars get it wrong	[22:14]
kakobrekla	fucked	[22:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000699 BTC [+]	[22:15]
pgp	that is not what prisoners dilemma is all about - is it?	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla who;s rthat ?	[22:16]
mircea_popescu	sounds a lot like the internet is not like a truck argument.	[22:16]
kakobrekla	the bitpay dude	[22:16]
kakobrekla	on the keiser show	[22:16]
pgp	ridiculous...	[22:16]
pgp	does he really have a .ru email address?	[22:17]
Namworld	[15:13] also wtf "even if you were to take over the network people would see it comming....... you cant fllip a switch and take 51% of the network"	[22:17]
Namworld	Well... if someone were to do that... that's exactly how they'd do it.	[22:17]
Diablo-D3	exactly	[22:18]
Diablo-D3	thats how I'd do it if I wanted to	[22:18]
pgp	critical level here	[22:18]
Diablo-D3	and I'd leave the shit on just enough to make it work	[22:18]
Diablo-D3	and then flip it back off	[22:18]
kakobrekla	luckly for us it doesnt matter what you would do	[22:19]
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pgp	actually, isn't hashing power now more concentrated than ever?	[22:19]
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Namworld	yes	[22:20]
Diablo-D3	pgp: wont be after asicminer unleashes a 200th load all over your face	[22:20]
Namworld	Mostly in ASICMINER's hands	[22:20]
Namworld	they'll reach 51% at this rate	[22:20]
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pgp	right - so... that doesn't seem so secure to me...	[22:21]
pgp	that's the reason yifu started avalon, right?	[22:21]
pgp	down we go...	[22:21]
pgp	c'mon - sell, sell, sell!	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	pgp yea.	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	Namworld i think avalon is delivering.	[22:23]
pgp	so, extrpolate into the future - how does the mining shit play out?	[22:23]
Namworld	good	[22:24]
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Namworld	going to add some balance	[22:24]
Namworld	BFL failed at that	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	i imagine more people will make more chips.	[22:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3975 @ 0.00070239 = 2.792 BTC [+]	[22:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2925 @ 0.0006891 = 2.0156 BTC [-]	[22:25]
punkman	then the cheapest electricity qina	[22:26]
punkman	*wins	[22:26]
pgp	watch out below	[22:27]
pizzaman1337	;;ticker	[22:27]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 65.94000, Best ask: 66.00100, Bid-ask spread: 0.06100, Last trade: 66.30000, 24 hour volume: 664521.94526845, 24 hour low: 50.01000, 24 hour high: 91.00000, 24 hour vwap: 68.15425	[22:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.366 = 0.732 BTC [-]	[22:30]
jcpham	to good to be true? https://cloudhashing.com/contracts/indefinite-contracts	[22:30]
jcpham	Using our powerful ASIC cloud, we simplify the mining process for you.	[22:30]
alex1234567	Luke-Jr: pingh	[22:31]
Luke-Jr	?	[22:31]
mircea_popescu	jcpham sounds like it.	[22:31]
jcpham	luke-jr what do think about this cloudhashing scam	[22:31]
tk993	I'd say, yeah, sounds too good to be true, jcpham.	[22:31]
alex1234567	Luke-Jr: can you by any chance do hardware based c coding?	[22:31]
jcpham	i can't get behind their economic model	[22:31]
Luke-Jr	jcpham: even if it weren't a scam, it defeats the point of mining even more than centralized pools	[22:31]
Luke-Jr	alex1234567: what?	[22:31]
alex1234567	Luke-Jr: programming chips etc	[22:32]
jcpham	doesn't seem any worse than asicminer	[22:32]
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Luke-Jr	jcpham: well, ASICMiner has the same problem	[22:32]
Luke-Jr	had*	[22:32]
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Namworld	;;bids 0	[22:35]
gribble	There are currently 1.0566017e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11861233.5045 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0078 seconds	[22:35]
Namworld	I switched gribble to e+ numbers	[22:36]
ThickAsThieves	noooooo	[22:36]
Namworld	Of all bids, Me: 1 billion, Rest of the world: 56.6 millions	[22:36]
Namworld	I won	[22:36]
ThickAsThieves	thats hideous	[22:37]
Namworld	Where's my trophy for stupid achievements	[22:37]
mircea_popescu	8==D	[22:37]
ThickAsThieves	8==D ~o ~o ~o on your e+	[22:38]
Scrat	~°	[22:38]
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Bugpowder	American Airlines DDOS? http://www.aa.com/homePage.do	[22:38]
Bugpowder	unlikely I'm sure	[22:39]
ThickAsThieves	;;asks 100	[22:40]
gribble	There are currently 62882.521 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 5473189.36504 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 84.2062 seconds	[22:40]
ThickAsThieves	;;bids 0	[22:40]
gribble	There are currently 1.0566017e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11859030.3747 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 91.7733 seconds	[22:40]
ThickAsThieves	so lame	[22:40]
jborkl	there is something else with AA, they asked the FAA to ground all the flights?	[22:41]
kakobrekla	;;bids 1	[22:41]
gribble	There are currently 710752.61 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 11622897.2427 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds	[22:41]
ThickAsThieves	:/	[22:41]
Scrat	bear sperm ~.	[22:42]
Scrat	bull sperm ~°	[22:43]
Scrat	ok ill go away now	[22:43]
Namworld	It's not lame. I represent like 95% of the bids orderbook in BTC denomination now.	[22:44]
Namworld	;;bids 0	[22:45]
gribble	There are currently 1.0565969e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11854275.4436 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 107.0922 seconds	[22:45]
Namworld	hmm...	[22:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00070244 = 4.7766 BTC [+]	[22:45]
mircea_popescu	i hope you made the orders in .001 btc increments.	[22:45]
Namworld	0.01BTC minimum lol =P	[22:46]
Namworld	Would have been fun actually	[22:46]
Namworld	0.00001 USD minimum bid... 0.0000001 cost per bid	[22:47]
Namworld	Well that would have killed gox's engine	[22:47]
jborkl	I am assuming SD is undergoin a DDOS attack now	[22:47]
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Namworld	;;bids 0	[22:48]
gribble	There are currently 1.0565969e+09 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11830042.4309 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 11.4155 seconds	[22:48]
Namworld	hey, I removed the order...	[22:48]
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Namworld	slow gribble	[22:48]
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xait9	assbot	[22:53]
Namworld	;;bids 0	[22:53]
gribble	There are currently 56594480 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11572274.4877 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0086 seconds	[22:53]
Namworld	back to 56 million demand	[22:53]
Namworld	There ya go ThickAsThieves	[22:53]
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ThickAsThieves	thank yo sir	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	i just think the E concept is tarded	[22:54]
Namworld	Not my fault gribble does it	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	i suppose it has real purpose in larger math	[22:54]
ThickAsThieves	but not for me :)	[22:55]
pgp	can't gribble be formatted with 000 seperator	[22:56]
Namworld	not without complaining to the right person	[22:58]
pgp	who is that?	[22:58]
Bugpowder	E is preferred	[22:59]
Bugpowder	learn math	[22:59]
pgp	lol	[22:59]
mod6	HEH	[23:00]
ThickAsThieves	i didnt see anyone fighting for the e	[23:00]
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ThickAsThieves	in that example it only obfuscates anyway	[23:02]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85397 BTC [+]	[23:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85398 BTC [+]	[23:05]
jcpham	http://www.nextnewdeal.net/rortybomb/researchers-finally-replicated-reinhart-rogoff-and-there-are-serious-problems	[23:06]
pgp	another nice feature would be something like ;;depth 40% where it give ;;bids last(1-.4) and ;;asks last(1+.4)	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01299 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.013 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.014898 = 0.1192 BTC [+]	[23:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.014899 = 1.4899 BTC [+]	[23:08]
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Bugpowder	hmm	[23:08]
Bugpowder	interesting idea	[23:08]
jurov	;;bids 0.9	[23:10]
gribble	There are currently 722721.79 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.9 USD, worth 11548332.3198 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 0.0095 seconds	[23:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.85398 BTC [+]	[23:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.854 = 1.708 BTC [+]	[23:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.85999 = 6.8799 BTC [+]	[23:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.8649 BTC [+]	[23:12]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.87387 = 2.6216 BTC [+]	[23:12]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00069338 = 7.9739 BTC [-]	[23:13]
jcpham	http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2013/04/16/bitcoin-whatever-it-is-its-not-money/	[23:15]
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mircea_popescu	duh.	[23:17]
mircea_popescu	in other news, http://o.onionstatic.com/images/5/5425/original/700.hq.jpg?2506	[23:17]
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Lyspooner	Money is most optimal when it is fixed in value just as commerce is facilitated when we have fixed weights and measures. When you buy a pound of hamburger you expect to get 16 ounces of meat. An hour has 60 minutes. A mile has 5280 feet. These measurements don’t “float.”	[23:19]
Lyspooner	wait, an ounce floats, right?	[23:19]
jcpham	that's forbes staff btw	[23:19]
jcpham	not the bloggers	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	that's actually forbes.	[23:19]
jcpham	yeah.	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	Malcolm Stevenson	[23:20]
Scrat	A mile has 5280 feet < lol	[23:20]
Scrat	what a retarded measurement system	[23:20]
Scrat	using that to make a point	[23:20]
jcpham	damn your decimals!	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the usual set of ignorant/half informed nonsense people do these days	[23:20]
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mircea_popescu	im getting kind of meh'd even considering it.	[23:21]
jcpham	dawwww i like seeing these old smart people look dumb	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	"our currency collapsed against this thing therefore this thing can't be used to price hamburgers in"	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	whoop de doo. logic.	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	the fact that the dollar is insanely volatile these days has little bearing on anything other than... the dollar itself.	[23:22]
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pgp	666k 224h gox volume...	[23:23]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19889 BTC [+]	[23:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.01 = 10 BTC [+]	[23:24]
Lyspooner	mircea_popescu, you do a good job of chronicling those articles or instances of great stupidity. please keep this steve forbes article in your archives for future reference	[23:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.1989 = 0.5967 BTC [+]	[23:25]
Namworld	lol	[23:25]
Namworld	people just want my BTC-BOND, do they?	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	im not gonna. guy's entitled to being stupid ocasionalyl, he has a name.	[23:27]
Namworld	I was recalling it because price was rising too much in my taste. Now I put it back available and people buy.	[23:27]
jborkl	looks like it is going to be approx 300w for a single, whenif they show up	[23:29]
jborkl	8800w for a minirig, even though those are not shipping	[23:29]
jcpham	8.8 kW wtf	[23:31]
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Bugpowder	warm!	[23:33]
jcpham	most US homes/places of business aren't wired for that	[23:33]
jcpham	not even remotely	[23:33]
kakobrekla	so when do they pay the 1k btc chairty bet?	[23:34]
jcpham	that can't be serious	[23:35]
jcpham	source?	[23:35]
kakobrekla	apparently he forgot to delete this one too https://forums.butterflylabs.com/article-comments/182-article-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-we-miss-our-power-targets.html	[23:36]
pgp	wow	[23:36]
kakobrekla	https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/123-bfl-offers-1000-btc-charity-if-they-miss-their-power-targets-comments4.html	[23:36]
jcpham	up front investment to support power usage	[23:37]
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kakobrekla	ok	[23:37]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119338.0	[23:37]
kakobrekla	here it is	[23:37]
kakobrekla	not deleted	[23:37]
kakobrekla	maybe im jumpy	[23:38]
jborkl	that power draw is as correct as far as I know	[23:38]
jcpham	jborkl that's an insane number for a minirig	[23:38]
jborkl	consistent with what has been said	[23:38]
jborkl	I am not saying it is not insance	[23:38]
jborkl	insane	[23:38]
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jborkl	just relaying the news	[23:39]
jcpham	yeah i know my bad	[23:39]
jcpham	those fuckers at bfl are batshit	[23:39]
jborkl	people are going to have to deal with heat, power , proper cooling, babysitting	[23:40]
jborkl	and that is without a host	[23:40]
jcpham	it would need 7 power cords going to maxxed out terminal is a US home	[23:40]
jcpham	more likely 220v though	[23:40]
jcpham	no clue what sort of support you'd need for that	[23:40]
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jcpham	i bet i ask an electrician tomorrow though	[23:40]
jborkl	I have places for all of mine, already drawing a bunch from GPU's	[23:40]
jborkl	480v with a transformer	[23:40]
pgp	then we'll shart to hear the stories of how the bfl asics catch on fire...	[23:41]
jcpham	so 480v	[23:41]
Diablo-D3	did someone say 480v?	[23:41]
jcpham	that's new service from the electric co for most people	[23:41]
Diablo-D3	well	[23:41]
Diablo-D3	its industrial service	[23:41]
jcpham	yeah residential gtfo	[23:41]
Diablo-D3	240v is usually what comes down off the poles and then its phase split into two 120vs	[23:41]
Namworld	oh wow... the quote: "We don’t really know how this coin is created. You can’t have a functional money without a basic transparency."	[23:42]
Diablo-D3	Namworld: what?	[23:42]
Namworld	http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2013/04/16/bitcoin-whatever-it-is-its-not-money/	[23:42]
jcpham	is terrible don't read it	[23:43]
Diablo-D3	oh fucking forbes	[23:43]
Diablo-D3	no one even listens to their shit anymore	[23:43]
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jcpham	it's steven himself Diablo-D3	[23:43]
Diablo-D3	steven forbes doesnt actually exist	[23:43]
Diablo-D3	its a persona made up by the company	[23:43]
jcpham	apparently the blockchain and mining is totally opaque	[23:43]
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mircea_popescu	lol does the 10kw include the fans ?	[23:46]
jcpham	yikes	[23:46]
jcpham	i bet it doesn't	[23:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.87 = 1.74 BTC [-]	[23:46]
jborkl	lol, I bet it does not either	[23:47]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.87387 = 1.7477 BTC [+]	[23:47]
jborkl	you would also need a pretty big ventilation to draw out that heat	[23:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.87389 = 4.3695 BTC [+]	[23:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89997 BTC [+]	[23:48]
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jcpham	it's no good all-around	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	http://petercearle.com/2013/04/the-following-exchange/	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	i'm making friends	[23:49]
jcpham	they were selling a 1.5 kW plug it in anywhere device	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.89998 = 4.4999 BTC [+]	[23:49]
pgp	unless you can use it to reduce you're heating bill in the winter...	[23:49]
Diablo-D3	>1.5KW device	[23:49]
Diablo-D3	on 120v?	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.89999 BTC [+]	[23:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.925 = 7.4 BTC [+]	[23:50]
jcpham	i thought the minirgis came in under 1.5	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	tbh i don't know how you can get 10kW installed comercially.	[23:50]
Diablo-D3	because that might not pass federal requirements	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	i mean... i think you need your own transformer.	[23:50]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: pretty much you call up the power company and ask	[23:50]
jborkl	I have my own , but I am commercial	[23:50]
jborkl	it is big	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 around here you can get 380V triphase installed just on asking	[23:50]
jcpham	well the point is the minirig was a consumer device but now it seems commercial	[23:50]
mircea_popescu	but it won't carry more than about 6kw i don't think	[23:50]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I think you're missing the concept	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	on the upside it costs < 1k to have it put in	[23:51]
Diablo-D3	volts * amps = watts	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	yea ?	[23:51]
Diablo-D3	you told me volts and watts but not amps.	[23:51]
Diablo-D3	380v triphase can handle 6kw, it just depends entirely what your amperage is	[23:51]
mircea_popescu	yes well... eu residential power is 220 v and < 20 amps	[23:51]
Diablo-D3	thats per circuit, mircea_popescu	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	commercially you can get (easily) 380 volts and i think it carries about 120 amps max	[23:52]
Diablo-D3	you have 40, 60, 80, whatever amps coming into your house	[23:52]
jcpham	yeah i'm saying like home wiring can't even handle it	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 you have 20.	[23:52]
jcpham	20 amp 30 amp max	[23:52]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: I said into the house, as in, for all the cirucits	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[23:52]
Diablo-D3	you have a shitty house if you only have 2 circuits	[23:52]
Diablo-D3	120v in the US is typically 15a, 18a max	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	20 amps at 220 volts is over 4kw, which is considered sufficient	[23:53]
Bugpowder	Tesla's home single charger is 240v/40A/10kW	[23:53]
Bugpowder	Their dual is 240v/80A/20kW	[23:53]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: depends which one, you CAN buy superchargers for home use	[23:53]
Bugpowder	so it can be done	[23:53]
jcpham	240 works w/ the 80AMP	[23:53]
Diablo-D3	its just going to be fun talking your electric company into doing it	[23:53]
jcpham	inside wiring can't handle 80	[23:53]
Diablo-D3	yeah what jcpham said	[23:53]
jcpham	it's to much. you have to build the facility to house 8.8kW	[23:54]
Bugpowder	looks like $2000 plus installation costs	[23:54]
jcpham	right the opossite of what they initially sold	[23:54]
Diablo-D3	I have 6 or 7 120v circuits, and 6 240v 30a circuits	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	jcpham soubnds like it.	[23:54]
Diablo-D3	and this is a small apartment.	[23:54]
jcpham	you are wired sir Diablo-D3	[23:54]
Diablo-D3	I think 120v 40a actually goes into the circuit breaker box though	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 there is no way you can draw 40kw off your apt grid right now.	[23:55]
Diablo-D3	(the 240s are double 120 breakers)	[23:55]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: of course not	[23:55]
Diablo-D3	it'd be fun to try though	[23:55]
jcpham	i've got 2 meters, 4 acres and 5 buildings and i think i only have one 240 drop to each meter	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	it'd be arson to try.	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	even on copper wiring, calc the heat.	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	jcpham sounds more like it.	[23:56]
Diablo-D3	anyhow, you said 360v at 120 amps?	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	europe has 220 and 380	[23:56]
Bugpowder	Seems like you can get 90A in your garage, if you pay an electrician. http://webarchive.teslamotors.com/display_data/home_connector_installation.pdf	[23:56]
Diablo-D3	you do realize thats 45.6kw right?	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	and 120 is i think nomional max. you won't get it more than you get 1mbps internet or w/e	[23:57]
jcpham	;;calc 8800360	[23:57]
gribble	Error: unexpected character after line continuation character (, line 1)	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	Diablo-D3 it also is a commercial installation.	[23:57]
jcpham	;;calc 8800/360	[23:57]
gribble	24.4444444444	[23:57]
jcpham	30 amp	[23:57]
jurov	i can't follow, where are these kilowatts announced?	[23:57]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yeah but you were trying to put 6kw on it	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	i was discussing normal house wiring. which is about 4kw tops.	[23:57]
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Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: btw, yes, due to what tesla is doing, you can now get higher end chargers installed	[23:57]
jcpham	4kw tops but you aren't going to be using 120v at that point	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	220!	[23:58]
jcpham	yeah	[23:58]
Diablo-D3	Bugpowder: they'll work with your electric company to get it done for you	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	look! europe has residential 220 v / 20 amp power	[23:58]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: yeah, europe is weird	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	and 380v triphase at about 100+ amps, which you have to install speciallly.	[23:58]
jurov	you just need thicker wires	[23:58]
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Diablo-D3	jurov: well, kind of	[23:58]
jcpham	i think europe requires 380 or multiple 220v drops	[23:58]
Diablo-D3	you need LESS copper as voltage goes up to maintain the same wattage	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	this is what you can do out of the box pretty much. otherwise you have to get on the list for a transform station being builrt	[23:58]
mircea_popescu	which is i think half a year lead time	[23:59]
jcpham	surely bfl does intend to ship a device drawing more than 4kW	[23:59]
jcpham	surely not	[23:59]
jcpham	that's be stupid	[23:59]
jcpham	*doesn't	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	well if they do it [retty much won't run in yurp	[23:59]
Diablo-D3	it wont run in the US either	[23:59]
mircea_popescu	or rural us, or asia, or anywhere else.	[23:59]
Diablo-D3	we dont have 240v sockets typically	[23:59]

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