Forum logs for 15 Sep 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
teek i understand people are all bent out of shape on "fake" bids, but there is "order time" then there is "execution time" [00:00]
teek credit is checked at both points [00:00]
BTC-Mining OneMiner: May I recommend BTC-BOND? [00:00]
teek it isnt really the appearance [00:00]
teek it is real liquidty, because the order is standing based on money that is there when it was placed [00:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10242 @ 0.0034 = 34.8228 BTC [+] [00:01]
OneMiner haha [00:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4296 = 2.8592 BTC [+] [00:01]
mircea_popescu the first time you sell 10k into whart seems like a 40k wall and discover abotu 8k of it was valid you'll change your oppinion i guess [00:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1176 @ 0.0034 = 3.9984 BTC [+] [00:02]
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BTC-Mining BTC-BOND is investing made easy. Less risk, stable profit, albeit lower profits. [00:03]
teek no one is going to provide any serious liquidty if they have to tie up their moeny for something that will probably never happen at 0% interest [00:03]
teek so yeah [00:03]
teek catch 22 sure [00:03]
teek but thats one of the reasons why [00:03]
OneMiner Thanks for the tips guys. [00:04]
mircea_popescu teek glbse liquidity was in the bucket before, this won't save it. but anyway, largely academic debate. [00:04]
teek Smoovious: if there is enough credit left to cover the order then it stays up, if not it gets canceled [00:04]
BTC-Mining EskimoBob: you mean disable any open order under x BTC total? [00:05]
BTC-Mining [17:03] and all the small bull shit orders have to be "moved" to market orders only [00:05]
OneMiner EskimoBob I have to agree, that's the one thing I've considered and rejected. Hashrate is going up so fixed Mh/s is garbage. [00:05]
teek if i have orders up on 10 different stocks for 10@1 and for antoher 10 different stocks at 5@1 and i ahve 7 btc left in the account, all the 10@1's get canceled [00:06]
teek the first time one of the 5@1 gets filled the others cancel [00:06]
teek Smoovious: as far as i know the only reason it isnt implemented is a bug in the code [00:07]
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Bane_Capital CPA is trading above the reported the NAV now. [00:09]
Bane_Capital reported NAV* [00:09]
teek Smoovious: i am fairly sure the real markets work like this.. though i am not a pro.. i supposed i could place some orders on some low volume issues and watch level 2 [00:09]
teek i know i have seen my orders on level 2 before and can follow them around [00:10]
Bane_Capital What nefario needs to do is include a toggle for this in the settings. [00:10]
Bane_Capital If you want strict bids, toggle for that [00:10]
Bane_Capital If you want unlimited, toggle for that [00:10]
Bane_Capital Everybody is happy [00:10]
teek Smoovious: fair enough.. but when i place orders in my brokerage account, i have seen them get routed directly to level 2 before [00:11]
teek now is it every and all orders [00:11]
teek i am not sure [00:11]
teek on stuff with high volume it is hard to follow [00:11]
BTC-Mining No one would have GLBSE stocks they need to dump? I see dumpings going much lower than what I'd pay all the time. [00:12]
BTC-Mining I got capital to spend. [00:12]
teek BTC-Mining: i'd dump jlp-bmd [00:12]
Bugpowder !ticker F.GIGA.ETF [00:13]
assbot [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00041282 / 0.00044627 / 0.000485 (129315 shares, 57.71 BTC), 30day: 0.00030644 / 0.00076876 / 0.00113797 (13924752 shares, 10,704.86 BTC) [00:13]
BTC-Mining is that a fixed mhash/s bond that won't upgrade to ASIC? [00:13]
teek no its a share, but i dont know wtf he is doing [00:13]
Bane_Capital !ticker CPA [00:14]
Bane_Capital !pl CPA 1 [00:14]
assbot [GLBSE:CPA] [Bid: 0.03100101] [Ask: 0.033] [Spread: 0.00199899] [Last: 0.033] [24hVol: 2.67099981] [7dAvg: 0.02895127] [00:14]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [00:14]
assbot CPA [1@1BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.033 BTC. Capital gain: -0.967 BTC. Total: -0.96130312 BTC. (-96.1%) [00:14]
Bane_Capital Yep, I think we've hit the floor of CPA [00:15]
Bugpowder I think the liquidity problem is due to 500,000 bitcoins disappearing from people that would be potential investors in real bitcoin securities [00:15]
Bane_Capital It's up from here from my talks with the issuer. [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11850 @ 0.00039652 = 4.6988 BTC [-] [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1551 @ 0.00039528 = 0.6131 BTC [-] [00:15]
BTC-Mining eh, looks like a mining share but no real information [00:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.09999996 = 0.6 BTC [-] [00:16]
Bugpowder I have GLBSE stocks I want to dump, when I went on a buying spree upon account creation without doing enough DD> [00:16]
Bugpowder Stuck in the positions [00:17]
BTC-Mining So dodgy I wouldn't give much for them. [00:17]
BTC-Mining What positions, Bugpowder? [00:17]
Bugpowder Hoping pre-dividend bounces get me out [00:17]
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Bugpowder YAMBC, BTC-MINING, for example :) [00:18]
BTC-Mining Hey... BTC-MINING kept it's value at least. There's just no bids eh. [00:19]
Bugpowder yeah thats because hope sells [00:19]
gigavps lol [00:19]
Bugpowder at least when it still has dividends [00:19]
Bugpowder GIGA @0.4 seems like the buy, but I have so much already [00:20]
BTC-Mining Well it does pays and unless BITBOND defaults on the loan, the capital is still available at 1 BTC per BTC-MINING share. [00:20]
Bugpowder I like that BTC-Mining is still paying dividends instead of keeping capital tied up in vaporware waiting [00:20]
gigavps i'm paying dividends and have money tied up in vaporware :p [00:21]
BTC-Mining We haven't enough raised for buying a full rig (didn't want to pay for singles) [00:21]
gigavps Smoovious that might be better suited for #bitcoin-politics [00:22]
BTC-Mining And the ASICs weren't out yet (vaporware) and other competing offers were on the horizon. So put a motion and started loaning the funds. [00:22]
Bugpowder ASICs still aren't out yet. [00:23]
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* gigavps is holding his breath for asic [00:23]
BTC-Mining Aye, and sorry gigavps about being so inquisitive and critical about your upgrade path. It's just that I think, although you have to plan for worst case scenario to still be able to cover the hashing, unless/until this scenario happens, you're putting a large amount of coins in your pockets. [00:24]
Bugpowder Any estimate of total TH ordered? [00:24]
gigavps Smoovious everything go ok? [00:24]
Bugpowder 30TH on the thread... [00:24]
gigavps Bugpowder i would think it's much higher than that [00:24]
gigavps so they caught it in time? [00:25]
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Bugpowder The main annoyance with the liquidity is that I need to reserve sufficient capital to pay GIGA upgrade fee, because who knows how much you lose getting out of other positions to cover the fee on the day the exchange program goes into effect. [00:26]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [00:26]
assbot CPA [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00569688 BTC. Last price: 0.033 BTC. Capital gain: -0.067 BTC. Total: -0.06130312 BTC. (-61.3%) [00:27]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [00:27]
assbot GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.62 BTC. Capital gain: -0.88 BTC. Total: -0.43682404 BTC. (-29.1%) [00:27]
gigavps Bugpowder asic is going to be fun [00:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 3 @ 0.61 = 1.83 BTC [+] [00:28]
gigavps of all the asic offerings, i don't think anyone is going to be able to compete with BFL [00:28]
Bugpowder It takes serious expertise to roll out custom silicon [00:28]
Bugpowder FPGA is not the same difficulty level [00:29]
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Bugpowder ALSO much more preorder capital [00:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 5 @ 0.92307692 = 4.6154 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 5 @ 0.94230769 = 4.7115 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 5 @ 0.96153846 = 4.8077 BTC [+] [00:31]
Bugpowder I would guess [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 8 @ 0.98 = 7.84 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 3 @ 0.98076923 = 2.9423 BTC [+] [00:31]
Diablo-D3 [05:30:30] the 1 major advantage BFL has right now, is it is very likely to be the first to market with them [00:31]
Diablo-D3 I doubt that [00:31]
gigavps i'm also wondering how btcfpga when from not having a fab one week to having a fab and "in process" the next week [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 1 @ 0.9989 BTC [-] [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 4 @ 0.999 = 3.996 BTC [+] [00:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [V.HRL] 5 @ 0.9995 = 4.9975 BTC [+] [00:32]
Diablo-D3 Smoovious: asicminer [00:32]
Diablo-D3 I believe bfl will miss the october launch date [00:32]
gigavps asicminer has shown their specs [00:32]
gigavps and they are not great [00:32]
gigavps 8w for 1Gh [00:32]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: the 1th for 500w figure is wrong [00:32]
kakobrekla and tycho [00:32]
mircea_popescu i thought bfl had a november date. [00:33]
Diablo-D3 Smoovious: they will have the units mining by december if they meet their launch date [00:33]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: no, october [00:33]
gigavps Diablo-D3 who said anything about 1Th for 500w [00:33]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: thats asicminer's numbers [00:33]
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gigavps mircea_popescu end of october [00:33]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 i don't think he puts more stock in asicminer. [00:33]
gigavps Diablo-D3 are you smoking crack? [00:33]
mircea_popescu gigavps well the guys likes to contradict what can i say :p [00:33]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: wait, I might be [00:33]
Diablo-D3 lemme check the thread [00:34]
midnightmagic gigavps: Scaling up from 3.5GH for 1 USB jalapeno gives an upper bound for pure-chip power requirements for 1TH ~600W, plus infrastructure, fans, controllers whatever else they're putting in the sc minirig. [00:34]
Diablo-D3 sorry, 50gh for 532 watts [00:34]
Diablo-D3 bfl sc is claiming 50 for 100 [00:35]
Diablo-D3 and asicminer has already said the 532 figure is wrong, they'll be coming in much lower [00:35]
midnightmagic Diablo-D3: Sorry what? [00:35]
Diablo-D3 midnightmagic: 40 for 85 ~= 50 for 100 [00:35]
midnightmagic ah [00:35]
Diablo-D3 and no one believes bfl's numbers [00:35]
midnightmagic Diablo-D3: Where's the 85W figure? Is that posted by BFL somewhere? [00:36]
Diablo-D3 midnightmagic: they said their sc single will use as much as the single [00:36]
Diablo-D3 same with sc minirig vs minirig [00:36]
midnightmagic Diablo-D3: Well, even if it's twice that, or three times that, so long as they fit on a 20A circuit, I'm fine with that. [00:36]
midnightmagic Diablo-D3: !! Well that's interesting. I haven't read that. [00:36]
Diablo-D3 twice that on a minirig still fits on a 15 [00:36]
Diablo-D3 anyhow, 50th for 532 (which has already been announced as too high as an early estimate) vs 50th on 100 [00:37]
Diablo-D3 so even if asicminer is 50th on 200, they won [00:37]
midnightmagic Diablo-D3: I specifically wired up with 12/3, 20A plugs, full armoured conduit, nothing inside the walls, to accommodate future power requirements. We'll see! heh heh. [00:37]
Diablo-D3 the problem is this [00:38]
Diablo-D3 the chinese new year [00:38]
Bugpowder is when BFL will ship [00:38]
Diablo-D3 if the finished boards have not arrived by jan, NOBODY gets anything until late feb [00:38]
Diablo-D3 the _start_ of jan [00:38]
Diablo-D3 bfl says october, they wont make it [00:38]
Diablo-D3 asicminer says nov or dec, they are cutting it close but will make it [00:39]
Diablo-D3 aiscminer had to bust their asses to catch up to bfl's unverified lead [00:39]
Bugpowder missile gap [00:39]
Diablo-D3 asicminer is one of those companies that you dont want to know how the sausage is made [00:39]
gigavps Diablo-D3 i'm an almost positive that ASICMINER specs are at 8w/Gh [00:40]
gigavps and 8kW per Th [00:40]
gigavps they are using a very inefficient nm size [00:41]
gigavps at 130nm [00:41]
mircea_popescu 8kw ?! [00:41]
mircea_popescu jesus that's some heavy duty draw. [00:41]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: yes, its 130nm [00:41]
Diablo-D3 but so is bfl [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7020 @ 0.00041923 = 2.943 BTC [+] [00:41]
mircea_popescu didn't they claim 80 ? [00:41]
Diablo-D3 unless they went the altera sasic 65nm route [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3880 @ 0.00041927 = 1.6268 BTC [+] [00:41]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: er, 80 isnt a size [00:41]
mircea_popescu 76 we [00:42]
gigavps Diablo-D3 how do you know bfl is on 130nm? [00:42]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: because its all they can afford [00:42]
gigavps Diablo-D3 how do you know that? [00:42]
Diablo-D3 unless they got VERY lucky to get a shared silicon 65nm run, they wont be on 65nm [00:43]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: minimum silicon orders [00:43]
gigavps you look at their bank account? [00:43]
Diablo-D3 65 still has them, small wafer size 130s dont [00:43]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: okay fine [00:43]
Diablo-D3 unless they had 10 million in the bank [00:43]
Diablo-D3 they cant afford it [00:43]
gigavps Diablo-D3 you are speaking as if you know something [00:43]
Diablo-D3 if they had 10 million in the bank they could afford a PR firm to stop fucking up shit as well [00:43]
Diablo-D3 their PR still sucks. [00:43]
gigavps when in reality, you don't [00:43]
Diablo-D3 so Im just putting 1 and 1 together to get 2 here. [00:44]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: bfl got caught lying about specs before [00:45]
Diablo-D3 plus they asked for investor money up front [00:45]
Diablo-D3 and you have to pay for the entire run up front [00:45]
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Diablo-D3 usagi: exactly, and if they miss the october launch date, asicminer wins [00:45]
PsychoticBoy If asicminer will succeed, thats the question, I dont believe it [00:46]
PsychoticBoy chinese crap [00:46]
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Diablo-D3 PsychoticBoy: its ALL chinese crap [00:47]
Diablo-D3 where do you think almost all the world's chip fabs are [00:47]
Diablo-D3 in CHINA [00:47]
Diablo-D3 usagi: the republic of china. [00:47]
Diablo-D3 so you're not helping your case [00:47]
Diablo-D3 I dont care about your political issues either [00:47]
Diablo-D3 yes, Im aware that 98% of the world's memory is produced in taiwan. [00:48]
Diablo-D3 Im also aware most non-memory storage devices are made there [00:48]
PsychoticBoy yes but they forgot yours [00:48]
Diablo-D3 theres also two major industrial fan manufacturers there [00:48]
Diablo-D3 usagi: but Ill also remind you taiwan is not recognized by the UN and their seat is held by China. [00:49]
Diablo-D3 so lolpolitics, it doesnt belong here. [00:49]
Diablo-D3 usagi: there are no 130nm and 65nm fabs in the US afaik [00:50]
Diablo-D3 which is the big issue [00:50]
Diablo-D3 I'd rather the chips be fabbed here [00:50]
Diablo-D3 oh hey [00:52]
Diablo-D3 Im wrong [00:52]
Diablo-D3 intel still does 65nm at the fab in chandler az [00:52]
Bugpowder IBM? [00:52]
Diablo-D3 intel has four fabs in the US, hillsboro or, chandler az, rio rancho nm, and hudson ma [00:53]
Bugpowder http://download.intel.com/newsroom/kits/22nm/pdfs/Global-Intel-Manufacturing_FactSheet.pdf [00:53]
Diablo-D3 all of them do 22, 32, or 45, and chandler is building a 14nm fab [00:53]
Bugpowder Costa Rica! [00:53]
Diablo-D3 intel also has a fab in ireland, does 65 and 90, one in israel doing 45, and one in china doing 65 for non-security applications [00:54]
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Diablo-D3 amd/globalfoundries has one in germany, does 45nm and will also be the site of their next gen stuff [00:54]
Diablo-D3 gf's singapore site still does basically every size ever [00:54]
Diablo-D3 28, 180, 350, and 600 (holy shit they still have a 600nm plant open) [00:55]
Diablo-D3 gf is opening one in abu dhabi in 2015 as well [00:55]
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Diablo-D3 tsmc has two different plants in taiwan, they do a bunch of sizes including 65 and 130, plus one in shanghai [00:56]
Bane_Capital Israel is actually producing something? [00:56]
Diablo-D3 sorry, three in taiwan [00:56]
Diablo-D3 Bane_Capital: yes, intel israel is a huge r&d facility [00:56]
Bane_Capital bdk_kluge bitfoo bonks brbot BTC-Mining BTCHero Bugpowder [00:56]
mircea_popescu Bane_Capital they're producing hot chicks in uniform at an amazing rate. [00:56]
Bane_Capital mircea [00:56]
Diablo-D3 ibm ha two fabs in the US, fishkill ny and essex junction vt, but I dont know what sizes [00:57]
Bane_Capital Forced conscription really bums me out. [00:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.09989999 = 2.4975 BTC [-] [00:57]
Diablo-D3 stm has one in france, one in italy, 32, 45, 65, 90 [00:57]
Diablo-D3 freescale has one in austin and chandler doing larger sizes, but no 65 and 130 from what I see [00:58]
Diablo-D3 smic is in shanghai and beijing and tianjin, 45, 65, 90, 130 [00:58]
Diablo-D3 holy fuck [00:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+] [00:59]
Diablo-D3 I didnt know this [00:59]
Diablo-D3 natsemi has a fab plant in maine [00:59]
Diablo-D3 that cant be possible [00:59]
Bane_Capital Can these guys make ASICs? [00:59]
Diablo-D3 Bane_Capital: these are all chip fabs [00:59]
Diablo-D3 they can make anything if you supply them with the mask. [00:59]
Bugpowder FISHKILL was 65nm in 2005 [00:59]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder: ibm has sub-22nm processes [01:00]
Diablo-D3 but I dont know which fab has it [01:00]
Diablo-D3 er, WILL have sub-22 [01:00]
Diablo-D3 Bane_Capital: natsemi in portland me only does 180, 250, and 350 [01:00]
Bugpowder So were do these guys do the bonding and packaging of the silicon [01:00]
Bugpowder ? [01:00]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder: some do, some dont [01:01]
Diablo-D3 a lot of companies offer packaging as well so you dont have to go off site to do it [01:01]
Bugpowder The biggest issue we had with our custom silicon probes was the bump soldering to each lead [01:01]
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Bugpowder hundreds of probes, all with a few bad channels [01:02]
Bugpowder from the bonding [01:02]
Diablo-D3 ouch [01:02]
Bugpowder It literally took 2 years to go from working prototype to successful production run [01:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 17 @ 0.09 = 1.53 BTC [-] [01:03]
Diablo-D3 man, multiple companies have fabs in austin [01:03]
Bugpowder smaller budget though. [01:03]
Diablo-D3 why [01:03]
Diablo-D3 I wonder if thats all the same fab and it either changed hands or works for multiple companies [01:03]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder: yeah, that really sucks [01:03]
Bugpowder vendors say they can do the spec sheet. they cant do the spec sheet [01:03]
Bugpowder switch vendors [01:03]
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Diablo-D3 gigavps: anyhow, what I was saying was, Im not saying bfl cant do it [01:04]
Diablo-D3 gigavps: there is just a lot of evidence against them [01:04]
Bugpowder flex PCB shortage [01:04]
Bugpowder etc [01:04]
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Bugpowder switch from flip chip to zif connectors [01:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00039538 = 10.5962 BTC [+] [01:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:09]
PsychoticBoy !ticker FDBF [01:10]
PsychoticBoy !ticker ABM [01:10]
assbot [GLBSE:FDBF] [Bid: 0.146] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.004] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 6.45] [7dAvg: 0.14999999] [01:10]
assbot [GLBSE:ABM] [Bid: 0.085] [Ask: 0.16] [Spread: 0.075] [Last: 0.1] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.1] [01:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:11]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder: yeah well [01:12]
Diablo-D3 at least asicminer is making a normal chip [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09989999 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:12]
Diablo-D3 and I think the way they've set it up even if it has a few bad sha cores it should still work [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:13]
Bugpowder I'm making sure my mining investments will still be paying out during the wait [01:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:13]
Diablo-D3 well [01:13]
Bugpowder who the fuck is buying 10 share lots of GSDPT [01:13]
Diablo-D3 who knows [01:13]
Diablo-D3 silly people [01:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0034 = 0.034 BTC [+] [01:13]
mircea_popescu i've seen 1 share lots [01:14]
Bane_Capital There is a nice gap in the CPA asks. [01:14]
Bane_Capital I want to clear it [01:14]
Bane_Capital but I don't have the leverage [01:14]
Bane_Capital SOMEBODY BUY IT UP TO .034 [01:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 350 @ 0.00332368 = 1.1633 BTC [-] [01:14]
Bugpowder Yeah, it like baby's first fund management. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnpbJ9eMVdSodHYyVVNHUVh2OEtVYWd6NDFoY0pCalE#gid=0 [01:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 450 @ 0.00319321 = 1.4369 BTC [-] [01:15]
Bugpowder "Bought shares of gigamining(2), cognitive(4), synergy(10), and pajka(16). Paid 1st dividend. Have 4.14659601 BTC in reserve funds. See other sheets for more details." [01:15]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.bvps [01:15]
Bane_Capital lol [01:15]
assbot [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0.00319321 / 0.00329319 / 0.00337901 (1200 shares, 3.95 BTC), 30day: 0.00319321 / 0.00361552 / 0.00389519 (46597 shares, 168.47 BTC) [01:15]
Diablo-D3 hrm [01:16]
Diablo-D3 does bitcoin have an accounting company? [01:16]
mircea_popescu smickles lol. [01:16]
[\] yeah, smickles ;) [01:16]
mircea_popescu get in line slashy :D [01:16]
Diablo-D3 thats imsaguy [01:16]
[\] bitch, he's already on my payroll [01:16]
[\] ;;ident [01:16]
gribble You are identified as user imsaguy, with GPG key id 7D7EA76776E6CE48, key fingerprint A1398F4C58AC3D387F012AFA7D7EA76776E6CE48, and bitcoin address 1Hf5qWZzd2WsrDwLhkykNc4uXPAkykg9PM [01:16]
Diablo-D3 how much does smickles, smickles, and smickles cost to hire? [01:17]
Bane_Capital Over 9001 Satoshis [01:17]
Bane_Capital per minute [01:17]
[\] 2 hookers and a ball of tar [01:17]
Diablo-D3 those are pretty expensive hookers [01:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+] [01:18]
Bane_Capital It's funny how people are willing to call out my alt accounts [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7720 @ 0.00041927 = 3.2368 BTC [+] [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5500 @ 0.00042382 = 2.331 BTC [+] [01:18]
Bane_Capital then not lend to me [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1900 @ 0.00042671 = 0.8107 BTC [+] [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1200 @ 0.0004272 = 0.5126 BTC [+] [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 36378 @ 0.00045386 = 16.5105 BTC [+] [01:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2302 @ 0.00047591 = 1.0955 BTC [+] [01:18]
Bane_Capital becuase their not sure I am Atlas [01:18]
Bane_Capital Anyways, fuck it. I don't need a stinkin loan. [01:18]
mircea_popescu you gonna buy shit with your aggregated postcount ? [01:19]
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Bane_Capital I have gotten thousand BTC loans before [01:20]
Bane_Capital through post count alone [01:20]
mircea_popescu ya but the citizen-bankers are a little broke atm. [01:20]
Bane_Capital Never bothered to document them though [01:20]
Bane_Capital because they are silly. [01:20]
Bane_Capital lending to 15 year olds [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 1 @ 0.18455089 BTC [+] [01:20]
mircea_popescu dude srsly. kludge is not 15. it was a joke. [01:21]
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Bane_Capital HashKing is [01:22]
Bane_Capital I am quite certain [01:23]
[\] no, he isn't [01:23]
[\] i know that for a fact. [01:23]
Bane_Capital Well [01:23]
Bane_Capital I know nothing [01:23]
[\] can we get all the other fud out of the way too? [01:23]
mircea_popescu o it was hk not kludge nm. but yes, he said that as a joke [01:24]
mircea_popescu people ran with it, it's ridiculous. [01:24]
Bane_Capital Diablo-D3 is a transgendered, atheist, scientologist. [01:24]
Diablo-D3 Bane_Capital: not true [01:24]
Diablo-D3 wait [01:24]
Diablo-D3 what? [01:24]
Diablo-D3 how can I be atheist AND scientologist? [01:25]
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Bane_Capital Thetans told me so. [01:25]
Diablo-D3 either I do not believe in God, or I worship a grey wearing a cloak and a crown [01:25]
Diablo-D3 cant have both [01:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.11968987 = 0.2394 BTC [+] [01:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60200 @ 0.00039528 = 23.7959 BTC [-] [01:48]
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BTC-Mining Diablo-D3: false, you can be atheist AND worship a persona in a ridicule fashion, as to mock sects (aka fake or set-up worshipping) [01:54]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: but thats not religious, its entertainment [01:55]
Diablo-D3 unicode even has a form of the ikon [01:55]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.09989999 = 0.1998 BTC [-] [01:57]
BTC-Mining I remember back in high school... where normal people would walk with friends talking, I'd be followed by my two atheists friends who've decided to worship me AND go on strike demanding higher salaries for the disciples of this sect having 2 followers. [01:57]
BTC-Mining Try walking around corridors with two people walking around you like their on strike demanding higher salaries >.> [01:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.09989999 = 4.8951 BTC [-] [02:01]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: your high school life was more exciting than mine [02:01]
BTC-Mining or giving you the hitler salute. Or walking around you doing freestyle rap, but not in a serious way. [02:01]
Diablo-D3 also, someone has notified me that people actually went to the bitcoinica conference [02:02]
Diablo-D3 _why_ [02:02]
BTC-Mining It was entertaining. They're very good friends too. [02:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 5 @ 0.0002 = 0.001 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+] [02:03]
BTC-Mining Luckily life is not like american tv shows. Or we'd have been beaten up so many times. =P [02:04]
BTC-Mining I miss being a student. [02:05]
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mircea_popescu i don't miss being a student. [02:11]
mircea_popescu had a lot less money back then. [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4299 = 2.8598 BTC [+] [02:12]
BTC-Mining Eh, that's the worst part. [02:13]
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nefario oh man [02:16]
nefario so tired [02:16]
nefario Anyone see the twit pics from the dinner at the pre event? [02:16]
Diablo-D3 why did you go to that event? [02:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.146 = 0.292 BTC [-] [02:16]
Diablo-D3 it just legitimizes what those guys did [02:16]
nefario what guys [02:16]
Diablo-D3 bitcoinica and intersango [02:16]
nefario Why would I NOT go [02:17]
nefario everyone is there [02:17]
nefario it's awesome [02:17]
nefario and [02:17]
nefario they had bitcake [02:17]
Diablo-D3 unless you were hoping zhou tong would show up so you could rape him in a back alley then stab him to death, I dont see the point [02:17]
nefario actual bitcoin cake [02:17]
nefario which tastes like chocolate [02:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 4 @ 0.00012682 = 0.0005 BTC [+] [02:17]
nefario Such retardedness [02:18]
nefario Head implodes [02:18]
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Diablo-D3 I dunno, after the crap intersango did, I'd never go to an event they hosted [02:19]
nefario Then you're missing out [02:20]
nefario cause nearly everyone who is anyone has come [02:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27772 @ 0.00039538 = 10.9805 BTC [+] [02:20]
BTC-Mining Diablo-D3, if it's hosted by scammers/retarded businesses, go there for the lulz. [02:21]
Diablo-D3 nefario: I dunno, parties arent my thing [02:21]
nefario It was so fun though [02:21]
nefario speaking to people face to face [02:21]
nefario about bitcoin [02:21]
nefario actuall intelligent people [02:21]
nefario who were not retarded [02:22]
nefario or who you didn't have to explain the basics to [02:22]
Diablo-D3 heh, still, not my thing [02:22]
BTC-Mining ah, true, an occasion to meet the bitcoin crowd [02:22]
Diablo-D3 who showed up? [02:22]
nefario about 100-150 people [02:23]
nefario the place was packed [02:23]
nefario my table waited for 1 and 1/2 hours for food [02:24]
nefario I was starving by the time it came [02:24]
nefario but I have to say it was pretty nice [02:24]
nefario turkish food [02:24]
nefario http://twitter.com/BitcoinByte/status/246723539548381184/photo/1/large [02:25]
nefario http://twitter.com/BitcoinByte/status/246725359876337666 [02:25]
nefario I didn't get any pics [02:25]
nefario phone ran out of battery [02:25]
Diablo-D3 ouch [02:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09989999 BTC [-] [02:26]
nefario ib? [02:27]
nefario I bet? [02:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [02:27]
nefario oh [02:27]
nefario first time I've come across it [02:28]
nefario well gents [02:28]
nefario I'm afraid Im rather smelly from my loooong day [02:28]
nefario so [02:28]
nefario shit shower and a shave, I'll be a new man [02:28]
nefario later [02:28]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.331 = 2.648 BTC [+] [02:37]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 3 @ 0.99999 = 3 BTC [+] [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 16 @ 0.999999 = 16 BTC [+] [02:38]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.66 = 6.6 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 7 @ 0.651 = 4.557 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.65 = 2.6 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.64 = 1.28 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.64 = 6.4 BTC [-] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6302 = 3.151 BTC [-] [02:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1349 @ 0.00039528 = 0.5332 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14853 @ 0.00039519 = 5.8698 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6302 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.6301 = 3.7806 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.63 = 6.3 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.62 = 6.2 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.61 = 1.22 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+] [02:53]
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BTC-Mining Buying DMC shares [03:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 4 @ 0.9899 = 3.9596 BTC [+] [03:04]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+] [03:05]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.0525001 = 0.1575 BTC [-] [03:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+] [03:09]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.034 = 0.068 BTC [-] [03:10]
kakobrekla lefuck. [03:16]
BTC-Mining Pirate still trading? [03:16]
BTC-Mining Buying DMC shares, anyone? [03:16]
* kakobrekla was wirting ngixing cofing for 2 hours :o [03:17]
BTC-Mining Offering up to 0.04 per share [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7447 @ 0.00039519 = 2.943 BTC [-] [03:17]
kakobrekla nginx [03:17]
kakobrekla cant even type. [03:18]
kakobrekla so tierd. [03:18]
kakobrekla lol [03:18]
nefario1 gropecunt lane [03:19]
nefario1 an actual place in london [03:19]
nefario1 used to be a red light district [03:19]
kakobrekla do we have a feed from the conf [03:19]
nefario1 not live no [03:20]
nefario1 but all talks will be recorded [03:20]
kakobrekla meh [03:20]
kakobrekla we need live [03:20]
kakobrekla tomorrow this will be ancient history [03:20]
nefario1 should have bought a ticket [03:21]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: why, interested in trying to buy your 54 shares back? =P [03:22]
BTC-Mining Why, yes [03:22]
Diablo-D3 well too bad, I need those [03:23]
Diablo-D3 need to balance out all that delicious abmo [03:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08899999 BTC [-] [03:24]
BTC-Mining I was expecting you to be thrown out and assets liquidated at that point, or betting on it. No offence. And since I have a mostly mining portfolio, I'm interested in having a chunk of the shares. Especially if I can trade them for the BTC-Mining shares. [03:24]
Diablo-D3 I doubt Im going to be thrown out [03:26]
BTC-Mining Well I wonder where the numbers are up to by now. [03:27]
Diablo-D3 who knows [03:27]
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BTC-Mining Nevertheless, in any case, I'll buy more DMCs [03:30]
nefario lol [03:30]
[\] too late, I own them all [03:30]
nefario haha [03:30]
Diablo-D3 bad imsaguy [03:30]
Diablo-D3 no making smart investments [03:31]
BTC-Mining [\]: how many? [03:31]
nefario diablo, how old are you? [03:31]
[\] all your hash are belong to us [03:31]
Diablo-D3 nefario: 28. [03:31]
nefario same age as me [03:32]
nefario nearly [03:32]
nefario weird [03:32]
[\] lol [03:33]
[\] BTC-Mining: 42 [03:33]
BTC-Mining Oh... so that's all DMC's shares uh... I'm sure of that. [03:34]
Diablo-D3 yup, totally [03:34]
nefario guys [03:35]
nefario Im looking for advice on creating a default contract [03:35]
BTC-Mining Damn, if that's all the DMC shares there is, what am I holding? Must be fake shares! [03:35]
nefario to which all contracts turn when they don't have a clause to handle any upcoming issues [03:36]
Diablo-D3 nefario: a standard offer? [03:36]
nefario no [03:36]
Diablo-D3 a standard framework? [03:36]
nefario a standard contract for as many contingencies as we can think of [03:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 8000 @ 0.0034 = 27.2 BTC [+] [03:36]
nefario so when there are new contracts [03:37]
nefario if they don't include a clause to handle an event [03:37]
BTC-Mining I see... [03:37]
nefario it then goes to the standard contract [03:37]
nefario think of the contract as being a child class of a standard contract [03:37]
BTC-Mining I think a troll face would be easier than writing such lenghty default clauses contract [03:37]
nefario inheriting it's methods and properties [03:37]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: I agree, its how everyone treats contracts anyhow [03:38]
nefario which you can override [03:38]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: dont like the contract? whine at nefario until he fucks up everybody's shit [03:38]
mircea_popescu my table waited for 1 and 1/2 hours for food << lol [03:38]
mircea_popescu so in the end, who that we might have known showed up ? [03:38]
[\] you realize that people will just write their own generic clause [03:38]
nefario rg !!!! [03:38]
russellw nefario, surely the obvious starting point would be the standard contracts, laws and regulations, whatever, from existing stock exchanges like Wall Street? [03:38]
[\] anything not contained herein is to be decided by the asset manager [03:39]
mircea_popescu [\] he doesn't think that far ahead. [03:39]
[\] and bam, your entire 'default' is overridden [03:39]
[\] glwt [03:39]
nefario someone already mentioned that [03:39]
nefario and I don't think that would be allowed [03:39]
mircea_popescu ahahah [03:39]
[\] ah right [03:39]
[\] so now you get to determine what the contracts are? [03:40]
[\] what next? [03:40]
BTC-Mining Diablo-D3, you fucked everybody's shit. You kept making trade-ins valuating DMC under NAV value so everyone would trade. [03:40]
[\] write their contract for them? [03:40]
[\] determine the price for them? [03:40]
mircea_popescu i can't believe this guy is still taken seriously by anyone. [03:40]
nefario [\]: we have the power to approve new assets [03:40]
nefario or deny them [03:40]
nefario Im setting up a board [03:40]
nefario that will do just that [03:40]
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Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: nope [03:41]
nefario shitty contracts will probably be turned down as a result [03:41]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: and even if I did, I did not violate the contract [03:41]
nefario For DMC the auditing has already begun [03:41]
[\] nefario: by whom? [03:41]
nefario Or perhaps shitty contracts will still be allowed [03:42]
nefario but then no one will buy ones with such a clause [03:42]
Diablo-D3 well, the problem nefario [03:42]
Diablo-D3 is DMC was one of the longer contracts on GLBSE, and you signed off on it [03:43]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 actually, the oldest contract was "test", by goat. [03:43]
nefario I've hired an outside party with qualifications [03:43]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I said longer not older [03:43]
nefario they will work out a profit and loss [03:43]
mircea_popescu o o sorry my bad [03:43]
Diablo-D3 also, goats a redditer? woah [03:44]
nefario then I'm getting someone else to write a report (another auditor) [03:44]
nefario and finally [03:44]
nefario a third person to verify the profit and loss, and report are correct [03:44]
Diablo-D3 nefario: as long as none of those are smickles, thats ... still a dumb idea. [03:44]
nefario auditing is a dumb idea? [03:45]
Diablo-D3 no, trusting you to it [03:45]
nefario I'm not doing it [03:45]
nefario which is the point [03:45]
nefario I don't have the time [03:45]
nefario Have a conference to attend and run [03:45]
nefario stock market [03:45]
nefario change the world [03:45]
nefario etc. [03:45]
mircea_popescu i haven't had such a good laugh in probably months [03:46]
mircea_popescu so glbbq isn't entirely a waste. it entertains. [03:46]
Diablo-D3 I dont trust you to chose auditors. [03:46]
nefario I've only gotten one so far [03:47]
mircea_popescu why not ? he could "hire" usagi, an anonymous "3rd party" with "qualifications". he knows ito integral calculus! [03:47]
[\] I've hired an outside party with qualifications << whom? [03:47]
[\] the auditor should be well known [03:47]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I lol'd [03:47]
[\] in fact, its announced BEFORE the audit [03:47]
Diablo-D3 I agree with imsaguy [03:47]
[\] at least on a real stock exchange [03:47]
Diablo-D3 this whole thing is extremely shady [03:47]
mircea_popescu auditor shopping lol [03:47]
Diablo-D3 not only that, the shareholders should have to agree to the chosen auditors as well [03:47]
[\] aye [03:47]
[\] I think Diablo-D3 is a douchebag [03:47]
[\] don't get me wrong [03:47]
[\] but this stinks of shady [03:48]
mircea_popescu for my curiosity, how much does an auditor make per hour in btcland ? [03:48]
[\] mircea_popescu: 32 [03:48]
[\] err 42 [03:48]
nefario mircea_popescu: we're missing you at the conference [03:48]
mircea_popescu maybe i could outsource. [03:48]
nefario hugs and kisses [03:48]
mircea_popescu nefario ty, if i ever need to sleep on the floor in the insalubrious apartment of a failed poker player [03:48]
[\] notice how my questions go unanswered? [03:48]
mircea_popescu i have plenty of acquaintances to oblige . [03:48]
[\] Who is doing the audit? [03:48]
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jcpham mircea_popescu you should've attended [03:48]
nefario mircea_popescu: I don't play poker [03:48]
jcpham i'm disappointed [03:49]
mircea_popescu not you fool. [03:49]
mircea_popescu jcpham how's teh soup ? [03:49]
nefario you know you look like a tool on the forum [03:49]
nefario everyones there [03:49]
mircea_popescu which forum do i look like a tool on ? [03:49]
jcpham sorry i'm not from the eurasian continent [03:49]
[\] Who is doing the audit of DMC? [03:49]
jcpham it's a pretty small place i hear [03:49]
mircea_popescu dude, forum scum != bitcoin. quite the opposite, actually. [03:50]
jcpham mircea_popescu i'm disappointed you didn't go to look down upon them [03:50]
jcpham you know, pull up in your limo full of ladies [03:50]
mircea_popescu jcpham well, i saw no point in doubling their credibility. [03:50]
nefario [\]: I'll announce it later [03:51]
jcpham good point [03:51]
Diablo-D3 jcpham: and his 12 foot tall black bodyguards [03:51]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 nah, the girls double as bodyguards. [03:51]
Diablo-D3 those breast implants come in handy, I guess [03:51]
jcpham any time you can flaunt it, you should [03:51]
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mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 especially if it gets cold at all, they can stab you in teh eye. [03:52]
jcpham sometimes i give horrible advice on irc freely [03:52]
mircea_popescu vote or die, mothafucka [03:52]
mircea_popescu or else you're getting hard nipple in the eye. [03:52]
[\] [\]: I'll announce it later << when? [03:52]
BTC-Mining [\] no one is, for now there's only a motion about if Diablo should be thrown out of managing DMC [03:52]
[\] BTC-Mining: nefario said it already began [03:52]
nefario wrong [03:53]
[\] so which is it? [03:53]
nefario I said DMC is being audited [03:53]
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[\] yeah [03:53]
[\] the audit already began [03:53]
[\] which means what BTC-Mining said is false [03:53]
Diablo-D3 DMC cant be audited until the shareholders sign off on the auditors. [03:53]
jcpham Diablo-D3 i remember when i thought u were joking about DMC [03:53]
jcpham what's the problem [03:54]
nefario The audit should be done before the vote is closed [03:54]
mircea_popescu how exactly is this "audit" going to go exactly ? [03:54]
mircea_popescu do you depose Diablo-D3 ? [03:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 8 @ 0.08899999 = 0.712 BTC [+] [03:54]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: he doesnt even make sense anymore =/ [03:54]
[\] How will the auditor know what mining assets DMC has? [03:55]
[\] going to visit Diablo-D3? [03:56]
[\] man, that airfare is going to eat whatever value is in DMC [03:56]
Diablo-D3 yeah, really. [03:56]
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mircea_popescu jcpham btc, XBIZ London would prolly be more to your taste anyway. i think i have invites somewhere too [03:56]
jcpham if i go to conference, i'd probably start a riot [03:57]
mircea_popescu lol why ? [03:57]
jcpham people see me and want more [03:58]
jcpham and i just can't give it to them [03:58]
nefario1 is that why you're locked in your mothers basement? [03:58]
jcpham yes, exactlynefario [03:59]
jcpham i just can't hve nice things [03:59]
mircea_popescu lol im sure the girls have seen it all. [03:59]
nefario1 not sure sisters count [03:59]
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jcpham or nephews? [04:00]
Diablo-D3 or first cousins? [04:00]
Doffx Que Serra Serra/ [04:00]
jcpham smh [04:00]
mircea_popescu singe r Doffx [04:00]
Doffx haha [04:01]
mircea_popescu jcpham http://www.xbizeu.com/schedule.php there, pussycash is sponsoring teh registrations. [04:01]
BTC-Mining You've never made sense, trading DMC shares for less than par value. It works like a reverse ponzi. The late investors get more. [04:02]
Doffx Ohhh that looks like fun mircea_popescu [04:02]
mircea_popescu they usually throw some kickass parties, but meh. [04:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [RSM] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+] [04:03]
mircea_popescu london is messy and crowded. and after a while... [04:03]
BTC-Mining It's also quite against the contract terms, it was supposed to be for buying mining equipment. You should have motioned going fund managing and the trading chart rates. [04:03]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: read the contract terms again [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00039412 = 5.0053 BTC [-] [04:03]
BTC-Mining If you consider reinvesting in equipment to be equivalent to buying mining stocks, then yes, for that part, 50% reinvestment is ok. [04:04]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: I outsourced the mining until the DC is done [04:05]
BTC-Mining The trading part was not however. Trading rates should have been motioned [04:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.082 = 0.328 BTC [-] [04:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.0823 = 0.4115 BTC [+] [04:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 6 @ 0.08235 = 0.4941 BTC [+] [04:05]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining does have a point there. [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 38 @ 0.29949219 = 11.3807 BTC [+] [04:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.0824 = 0.412 BTC [+] [04:07]
Diablo-D3 the trading provided much needed liquidity to the market [04:07]
mircea_popescu when you failed to get your original funds (1 mn btc) you should have repaid investors and that's that ; not doing that the next best thing would have been to trade market rather than your imaginary valuations. you got raped cause of them. [04:07]
BTC-Mining but was always made against existing shareholders to the profit of new people coming in. You always changed the trading rate to be under NAV to constantly attract people to trade shares with DMC. [04:08]
BTC-Mining It's that part which pissed everyone off, mostly. [04:09]
Diablo-D3 no, people got pissed off at what they thought was happening [04:09]
mircea_popescu d'oh ? [04:10]
mircea_popescu what ELSE would they get pissed at ? [04:10]
Diablo-D3 instead of thinking about it for a moment, they ran off half cocked and will probably end up costing them their investment [04:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.5001 = 2.0004 BTC [-] [04:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.5 = 2 BTC [-] [04:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+] [04:10]
mircea_popescu be more speciffic. [04:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCS] 11 @ 0.0105 = 0.1155 BTC [-] [04:11]
Diablo-D3 I traded most of the stuff for _now_ ~1 btc = 1 dmc [04:11]
Diablo-D3 the only thing that differed greatly was asicminer [04:12]
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mircea_popescu nah, i recall a conversation we had where you were trading about 1/6 of mkt value [04:12]
Doffx Diablo-D3, haha you have got to be the most stubborn person ive ever seen. [04:12]
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Doffx I thought my wife was bad, glad im not married to you! [04:13]
Doffx :) [04:13]
Diablo-D3 you have to be stubborn to do this kind of work [04:13]
Diablo-D3 if you let every little thing stop you, you'd never get anything done [04:13]
mircea_popescu in this case it worked in reverse. [04:14]
BTC-Mining ... on the contrary, you need to work through them. Being little things, they're easily walked over, not impossible to pass walls. [04:15]
BTC-Mining or at least that's my opinion [04:15]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: yes, and I have been working through them [04:15]
Diablo-D3 I havent stopped working on DMC, even with nefario's threats [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 120 @ 0.09989999 = 11.988 BTC [-] [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 46 @ 0.0999 = 4.5954 BTC [+] [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0999 = 9.8901 BTC [+] [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.0999999 = 2.4 BTC [+] [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.09999991 = 0.6 BTC [+] [04:15]
nefario1 what threats? [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.09999994 = 0.5 BTC [+] [04:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.09999994 = 2.4 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 50 @ 0.0002 = 0.01 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.11968988 = 2.9922 BTC [+] [04:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.119798 = 0.9584 BTC [+] [04:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09999994 BTC [+] [04:17]
Diablo-D3 nefario1: that you're going to shaft shareholders based on a motion most of them dont have enough information to make a decision on [04:17]
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[\] asicminer going up, does someone know something the rest of us don't know? [04:18]
nefario1 they can always vote down the motion [04:18]
Doffx Its coming out next week, you didint see the post? [04:18]
Diablo-D3 Doffx: url [04:18]
Doffx :P [04:18]
Diablo-D3 you're kidding arent you [04:18]
Diablo-D3 you ass [04:18]
Doffx I'm completly kidding [04:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [04:18]
jcpham Doffx is also on that list of people repaid [04:19]
mircea_popescu it's been going up and down with the wind. [04:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0997 BTC [-] [04:19]
jcpham that other thing [04:19]
Doffx I realisticly expect these things around january [04:19]
mircea_popescu doffx 2013 ? 2015 ? [04:19]
Doffx 2013 [04:19]
Doffx I think even modminer will be january [04:19]
BTC-Mining He's going to either liquidate the assets and return the funds to shareholders or motion for a new person to manage DMC [04:19]
Doffx I still want to see friedcat get his going sooner. [04:19]
BTC-Mining not shaft shareholders... [04:20]
Doffx I am on that other list jcpham [04:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0985 = 0.985 BTC [-] [04:20]
BTC-Mining They'll keep all value stored in DMC's assets [04:20]
Doffx It makes me sad daily that I didnt sell at 12 when I planned then talked myself out of it [04:20]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining well his theory is that under any management other than his own investors are "getting shafted" mostly because the liquidation value of assets diverges from the arbitrary value he assigned to same assets. [04:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.4999 = 0.9998 BTC [-] [04:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 46 @ 0.0321 = 1.4766 BTC [+] [04:22]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: nefario can only liquidate assets on glbse [04:24]
mircea_popescu do you hold other assets ? [04:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6199 BTC [-] [04:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+] [04:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 0.62 = 1.24 BTC [+] [04:24]
Diablo-D3 are you asking the question if DMC is moving ahead on other parts of the plan? yes. [04:25]
mircea_popescu no. does dmc own tangible assets outside of glbse [04:25]
mircea_popescu like, a car. a brick. some celery. anything. [04:25]
nefario1 or BTC [04:25]
Doffx I can sell him a brick, and some organic celery if needed/ [04:26]
nefario1 had some organic coke the other day [04:26]
Doffx dammit I cant seem to hit the . button tonight [04:26]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 977 @ 0.14520725 = 141.8675 BTC [-] [04:26]
nefario1 all I can say about it is [04:26]
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nefario1 coke is a HELLOVADRUG [04:27]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yes, I have some celery in the fridge, shareholders can have it. [04:27]
Diablo-D3 derp herp. [04:27]
Doffx Haha, your not helping nefario1. [04:27]
Doffx Wtf with your name too [04:27]
mircea_popescu don't start with usagi-esque fraud/donations. does it own anything. [04:27]
nefario1 network keeps cutting out [04:27]
nefario1 so I keep getting renamed [04:27]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: Ive already answered the question [04:28]
Doffx haha [04:28]
mircea_popescu well i never saw teh answer, so waht is it ? [04:28]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: read the thread more [04:28]
mircea_popescu i never read any thread lol. [04:28]
Doffx mircea_popescu, is all knowing, he doesnt do threads. [04:29]
mircea_popescu Doffx i get weekly digests, but more's the point, wtf sort of q is this to need a reference answer. "yes, 500 dollars in cash and a used condom.". "no" [04:29]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: you... dont read... threads.... [04:30]
Doffx haha, I was just trying to be funny. [04:30]
* Diablo-D3 just stares at mircea_popescu [04:30]
Doffx Need to try harder I suppose. [04:30]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 i got a girl to do that for me. [04:30]
mircea_popescu Doffx nono. try softer :D [04:30]
Doffx :) [04:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.61921 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6192 = 3.096 BTC [-] [04:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6191 = 3.0955 BTC [-] [04:31]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: argh now you sound like goat [04:31]
mircea_popescu maybe vice-versa. [04:31]
mircea_popescu and at great effort on his part, i might add. [04:31]
Doffx Not even close, there would need to be at least 10 mispellings, and 15 typos and a sentance that makes no sense whatsoever. [04:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.09999994 = 0.3 BTC [+] [04:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 313 @ 0.62 = 194.06 BTC [+] [04:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+] [04:32]
mircea_popescu he does speak a very approximative english, does he. [04:32]
Diablo-D3 slightly more approximate than yours at times [04:32]
Doffx Whatever languange it is its messy [04:33]
Doffx wow thanks spell check [04:33]
mircea_popescu haha [04:33]
Doffx What the heck is languange? [04:33]
Diablo-D3 jesus the dmc thread is a mess [04:33]
Diablo-D3 thanks nefario and co [04:33]
Doffx That was an Iphone text moment in IRC. [04:34]
mircea_popescu which thread isn't a mess ? [04:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.69 = 2.76 BTC [+] [04:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.705653 = 2.117 BTC [+] [04:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 0.721103 = 7.211 BTC [+] [04:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+] [04:34]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: the dmc thread [04:34]
Diablo-D3 and whoever is buying gigamining: STOP WASTING YOUR MONEY [04:34]
kakobrekla BUY DMC [04:34]
Doffx I bought 1000 shares and traded it for DMC [04:34]
Doffx Sorry im bored and waiting for game to download. [04:35]
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Diablo-D3 found it [04:39]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1188408#msg1188408 [04:39]
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mircea_popescu doesn't seem to answer the question. assets. [04:40]
mircea_popescu "No BTC from DMC has gone into the web hosting service project" this would mean "no assets". [04:41]
BTC-Mining Anyone wants to get rid of their GIGAMINING shares? [04:42]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: its funny you bring that up [04:43]
Diablo-D3 fairpoint would largely disagree with you on that [04:43]
Diablo-D3 in the contract between them and verizon when they bought up the northeast service area, assets sold to fairpoint included various contracts [04:43]
mircea_popescu what/who is fairpoint [04:43]
Diablo-D3 fairpoint is one of the big phone companies in the US [04:44]
Diablo-D3 now, what verizon did was cancel those contracts after fairpoint purchased them but before the ownership switchover date passed [04:44]
mircea_popescu a ok. i fail to see how that applies to your case. [04:44]
Diablo-D3 so, was verizon right in canceling those contracts after selling them to fairpoint? according to you, they're not assets even though they were crucial to the operation of the phone system [04:45]
mircea_popescu !ticker BAKEWELL [04:45]
assbot [GLBSE:BAKEWELL] [Bid: 0.12500001] [Ask: 0.15] [Spread: 0.02499999] [Last: 0.15] [24hVol: 0.45] [7dAvg: 0.15] [04:45]
mircea_popescu look, if you put no company money into anything then you can't own anything. nothing from nothing doctrine. [04:45]
rg ;;later tell nefario done [04:45]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:45]
BTC-Mining Damn, I see so many lending/investments requests where people ask for a business plan/legitimate questions. And the thread owner shrugs all questions off as trolls attacking their "obvious higher intellect/business skills". Cases of too stupid to know you're stupid? [04:47]
BTC-Mining So many empty words answering so many crucial questions too... [04:47]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining hopefully anyone with any coins left has learned the pirate lesson by now [04:48]
BTC-Mining Nice looking words forming meaningless statements are not arguments... keep that kind of talking for the art gallery. [04:48]
mircea_popescu also hopefully the ones who haven't will orderly lose all their coins and will never be sufficiently many to ever matter again. [04:48]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: so basically you shoved the entire service industry under a bus. good job. [04:49]
mircea_popescu huh ? [04:49]
BTC-Mining The service industry! It's getting away under buses! Catch it, catch it before it escapes to the neighboring countries! [04:52]
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mircea_popescu "Any motions raised by shareholders will be considered non-binding advisory votes." [04:54]
mircea_popescu ahaha this is funny. [04:54]
mircea_popescu seems diablo DID HAVE a catchall clause in his contract. [04:54]
mircea_popescu nao what bitchez,. [04:54]
nefario1 I'm not a shareholder [04:54]
nefario1 I raised the motion [04:55]
mircea_popescu ... [04:56]
mircea_popescu you'd seem to be a third party. [04:57]
nefario1 ja [04:57]
mircea_popescu ahh this trainwreck. [04:58]
mircea_popescu it's like the funny paper. [04:58]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 16 @ 0.1 = 1.6 BTC [+] [05:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11159 @ 0.00039387 = 4.3952 BTC [-] [05:57]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P090N] 7 @ 0.13485511 = 0.944 BTC [+] [06:00]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+] [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.00039504 = 12.8388 BTC [+] [06:26]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 5 @ 0.0034 = 0.017 BTC [+] [06:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 10 @ 0.001 = 0.01 BTC [+] [06:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P080N] 8 @ 0.09569491 = 0.7656 BTC [-] [06:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 6 @ 0.0889 = 0.5334 BTC [-] [06:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.089 = 0.445 BTC [+] [06:51]
smickles mircea_popescu: [06:54]
smickles with just a few minutes to spare [06:54]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.msg1192380#msg1192380 [06:54]
smickles the MPOE.ETF financial report :D [06:54]
mircea_popescu o it's that day of the month isn't it [06:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P170T] 1 @ 0.58539533 BTC [-] [07:00]
BTC-Mining http://www.natursource.com/retail/tamari-almonds.htm [07:01]
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BTC-Mining A product I'd recommend for anyone's pantry. [07:02]
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mircea_popescu smickles so you sold some mpoe stock and paid back yourself whatever was left from mpex fee ? [07:05]
smickles lol, no, paid back the loan for the 20 btc GLBSE fee [07:05]
BTC-Mining 20 btc glbse fee? [07:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 2 @ 0.21 = 0.42 BTC [-] [07:06]
mircea_popescu ya say wut ? [07:06]
smickles mpoe.etf was charged 20btc to list [07:06]
mircea_popescu o wait, you listed before the fee reduction uhh [07:06]
mircea_popescu lol hit up nefario for a rebate :D [07:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 5 @ 0.205 = 1.025 BTC [-] [07:07]
smickles naw, i'll wait till btc are ~150 usd each for that :D [07:07]
mircea_popescu lol [07:08]
mircea_popescu 0.31566871 wage expense, 1000% up from average, this connected ? [07:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 3 @ 0.20010001 = 0.6003 BTC [-] [07:08]
smickles um, let me have a look at that [07:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [GREEN] 9 @ 0.2 = 1.8 BTC [-] [07:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 2 @ 0.025 = 0.05 BTC [+] [07:09]
smickles oh yeah, by the contract, wages expense is based off of real revenue [07:09]
mircea_popescu o, you get a % ? [07:10]
smickles holy shit [07:10]
mircea_popescu .py 1570.35531024 / 1110 [07:10]
markac 1.41473451373 [07:10]
smickles oh [07:10]
smickles i read that as <@assbot> [GLBSE] [SS] 2 @ 0.05 [07:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1 @ 0.009 BTC [-] [07:10]
smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, for running it, i take a 1% cut [07:11]
mircea_popescu aha yeah. cool. [07:12]
mircea_popescu you almost made a cuppa coffee this month :D [07:12]
smickles i guess the going rate has gone up since i started it (as deadterra is taking 5%) [07:12]
mircea_popescu he's taking 5% of dividends tho [07:13]
smickles it's basically the same thing because he doesn't buy/sell the underlying [07:14]
smickles i take a smaller cut for doing more work [07:14]
mircea_popescu well wait, you take 1% of what, nav ? [07:14]
smickles real revenue [07:14]
mircea_popescu as in, dividends + share appreciation ? [07:15]
smickles dividends and share sales [07:15]
mircea_popescu aha [07:15]
mircea_popescu o incidentally, Cash payments for purchase of MPOE stock.. 1.00016000 [07:15]
mircea_popescu you bought stock but your stake seems to have diminished ? [07:15]
mircea_popescu or my recollection is off [07:15]
smickles bought less than sold in total [07:16]
mircea_popescu ah [07:16]
smickles that was a purchase i arranged at .00028 [07:16]
mircea_popescu you bought at 28 ?! [07:16]
smickles :) [07:16]
mircea_popescu lol juciy. [07:16]
mircea_popescu how did you manage that lol, buy me some too [07:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.114 = 2.28 BTC [-] [07:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1989 @ 0.009 = 17.901 BTC [-] [07:17]
smickles heh, buy shares in the fund :D [07:17]
mircea_popescu ahahah [07:17]
mircea_popescu but pretty cool stuff. 6 months old now too [07:17]
mircea_popescu halfway to first dividend report. [07:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 20 @ 0.15 = 3 BTC [+] [07:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.66999999 BTC [+] [07:18]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [07:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00039314 / 0.00039577 / 0.00039885 (1217705 shares, 481.94 BTC), 30day: 0.000035 / 0.00038514 / 0.00042 (78081787 shares, 30,073.15 BTC) [07:18]
mircea_popescu .py 64849 * 0.00039577 [07:18]
markac 25.66528873 [07:18]
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mircea_popescu so wait. if you're net - 65k yo should have 25 a yes you do [07:18]
mircea_popescu jesus this is painstakingly detailed man. [07:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 5 @ 0.4999 = 2.4995 BTC [-] [07:19]
mircea_popescu how long do you take to make them ? coupla hours ? more ? [07:19]
mircea_popescu !ticker mpoe.etf [07:20]
assbot [GLBSE:MPOE.ETF] [Bid: 0.00180181] [Ask: 1.34] [Spread: 1.33819819] [Last: 1.35] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: ] [07:20]
mircea_popescu heh. impressive how inclined to recognize value glbbq is. [07:20]
smickles the reports? yeah, couple of hours at the most [07:21]
mircea_popescu well, they're certainly setting a standard. [07:21]
mircea_popescu speaking of standards, do you find yourself inclined to step into the dmc mess ? [07:21]
BTC-Mining I buy DMC shares by the way, if anyone is dumping them [07:22]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining they're not really worth more than 0.049 iirc ? [07:23]
smickles mircea_popescu: in what capacity? [07:23]
mircea_popescu well, they've completely fubar'd it beyond recognition, nefario and diablo. now they pretty much need a 3rd party that's not reputed mentally deficient / 3 years old [07:24]
Obsi and they have to have an epic beard as well [07:24]
mircea_popescu to pick up the pieces, make a statement abotu what the situation is, do the accountign etc [07:24]
BTC-Mining I have a poor idea of their current NAV value. [07:25]
BTC-Mining But I'll buy them if they're cheap enough [07:25]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining i recall somebody working it out somewhere but i think the holdings were sligjhtly outdated at the time [07:25]
mircea_popescu smickles iirc Diablo-D3 was asking for you to be that 3rd party. [07:26]
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jcpham i think someone should pay smickles [07:26]
jcpham if that is the case [07:26]
mircea_popescu i think so too, but i wouldn't imagine that'll muchly happen [07:27]
BTC-Mining I'll pay him in food. Is that ok with you smickles? [07:27]
mircea_popescu lol, i'd throw some btc dust into the pot if it makes the drama stop [07:27]
mircea_popescu it's becoming a public nuisance. [07:28]
jcpham glbse accountant on retainer [07:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19085 @ 0.00039504 = 7.5393 BTC [+] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5066 @ 0.00039538 = 2.003 BTC [+] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00039711 = 8.2202 BTC [+] [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5749 @ 0.00039737 = 2.2845 BTC [+] [07:29]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yes, I'd rather have smickles as one of them [07:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 3 @ 0.025 = 0.075 BTC [+] [07:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 2 @ 0.00999999 = 0.02 BTC [+] [07:37]
smickles well, i could probably do something to help out :) [07:38]
smickles It seems to me that something is brewing in the community to work on these sort of issues [07:39]
mircea_popescu yeah. it finally dawns on glbbq, a year later, that maybe being a little more like mpex in this respect too wouldn't be a bad thing. [07:40]
smickles Obsi: i have a beard, but i should not be the one to judge wether it be epic or epyllion [07:41]
Obsi mircea_popescu can give you tips on making it epic I'm sure [07:41]
mircea_popescu obsi you have some pent up something you want to share ? [07:42]
Obsi I want to tickle your beard [07:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.66999999 BTC [+] [07:42]
mircea_popescu lol. currently im shaved tho. [07:42]
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smickles it was an epic beard [07:43]
mircea_popescu it does grow back east enough [07:43]
smickles aw, why do i leave /away on :( [07:46]
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Diablo-D3 smickles: btw, you run a bitcoin accounting company, right? [07:49]
mircea_popescu ya, smickles, michael & carver. [07:50]
Diablo-D3 fee chart noaw [07:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.05999989 = 0.6 BTC [+] [07:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7151 @ 0.00039737 = 2.8416 BTC [+] [07:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.0003974 = 10.9285 BTC [+] [07:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10303 @ 0.00039817 = 4.1023 BTC [+] [07:54]
smickles Diablo-D3: i don't run accounting company. however, I am strongly considering it once i move to arizona and learn that stat's accounting regulations,licences, etc [07:59]
Diablo-D3 usagi: that'd be great as long as you arent on the board of it [08:00]
Diablo-D3 what we need is more smickleses [08:00]
Diablo-D3 what, we can clone him [08:00]
mircea_popescu with free solar power [08:00]
Diablo-D3 smickles: how much would you charge DMC to handle stuff? [08:01]
Diablo-D3 usagi: you need an odd number. [08:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 205 @ 0.1 = 20.5 BTC [+] [08:04]
Diablo-D3 maybe. [08:05]
Diablo-D3 fine, its probably the only way to keep it honest. [08:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1200 @ 0.003 = 3.6 BTC [-] [08:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 800 @ 0.00337901 = 2.7032 BTC [+] [08:14]
smickles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109660.0 [08:16]
smickles heh [08:16]
mircea_popescu o hey, theymos admits owning part of glbse publicly ? [08:17]
Diablo-D3 oh what [08:18]
Diablo-D3 seriously? [08:18]
Diablo-D3 CANT TRUST ANYONE, WARGH [08:18]
mircea_popescu i thought it's big secret bla bla. [08:18]
smickles all you base are belong to theymos [08:20]
smickles yay! it's back! http://bit.ly/RMjqah … hmm, how long has that island been there? [08:21]
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[\] I'm not on it [08:21]
[\] sad panda [08:21]
mircea_popescu o hey, it's back [08:22]
mircea_popescu [\] well it's cause you don't talk to people. but it's fixed nao. [08:22]
Diablo-D3 I AM NOT IN THE CENTER [08:22]
Diablo-D3 THIS GRAPH IS WRONG [08:22]
mircea_popescu you were suspended from center too ? [08:23]
smickles damn mircea_popescu , you and assbot have a thik rod together [08:23]
mircea_popescu thickest on the map. i have no ideea why either [08:24]
mircea_popescu ;;lastseen hashking [08:24]
gribble Error: "lastseen" is not a valid command. [08:24]
mircea_popescu ;;seen hashking [08:24]
gribble hashking was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 14 hours, 42 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: hi [08:24]
mircea_popescu wow srsly ? [08:24]
smickles you seem to be the nexus [08:25]
mircea_popescu the guy was here and said hi ? wtf happened next? [08:25]
smickles ;;seen BTCHero [08:25]
gribble BTCHero was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes, and 29 seconds ago: slow night i guess [08:25]
smickles i'd like that to answer your question [08:26]
mircea_popescu go ahead ? [08:26]
smickles was hashking ever all that talkitive in here? [08:27]
mircea_popescu this may be his first foray [08:27]
Diablo-D3 I dunno though [08:32]
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Diablo-D3 maybe I should start another company [08:33]
Diablo-D3 one to mine in space. [08:33]
Diablo-D3 nefario cant take the assets if they're in orbit. [08:33]
mircea_popescu prolly the better avenue for you would be to find employment with some established company. [08:33]
mircea_popescu and i don't mean no forum play-pretend bullshit "companies" either. [08:33]
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smickles Diablo-D3: would you just need bookkeeping or would you need reports too? [08:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.114 = 6.84 BTC [-] [08:38]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.00012682 = 0.0006 BTC [+] [08:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012682 BTC [+] [08:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 832 @ 0.00039387 = 0.3277 BTC [-] [08:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00039366 = 6.2198 BTC [-] [08:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38550 @ 0.00039302 = 15.1509 BTC [-] [08:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2818 @ 0.00039288 = 1.1071 BTC [-] [08:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.611 BTC [+] [08:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08820001 BTC [-] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9282 @ 0.00039288 = 3.6467 BTC [-] [08:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47200 @ 0.00039281 = 18.5406 BTC [-] [08:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49421 @ 0.00039269 = 19.4071 BTC [-] [08:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55715 @ 0.00039266 = 21.8771 BTC [-] [08:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3878 @ 0.0003926 = 1.5225 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.0003926 = 18.1381 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9342 @ 0.00039257 = 3.6674 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63700 @ 0.00039245 = 24.9991 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.00039242 = 8.7117 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20607 @ 0.00039239 = 8.086 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60800 @ 0.00039235 = 23.8549 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37658 @ 0.00039229 = 14.7729 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62359 @ 0.00039224 = 24.4597 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33296 @ 0.00039219 = 13.0584 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48900 @ 0.00039215 = 19.1761 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7900 @ 0.00039214 = 3.0979 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00039207 = 5.2929 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00039201 = 3.8025 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46600 @ 0.000392 = 18.2672 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35200 @ 0.00039196 = 13.797 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00039189 = 16.1067 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.00039188 = 11.5996 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00039186 = 10.9721 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52603 @ 0.00039184 = 20.612 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53932 @ 0.0003917 = 21.1252 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17578 @ 0.00039169 = 6.8851 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00039169 = 3.2902 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38900 @ 0.00039168 = 15.2364 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20900 @ 0.00039163 = 8.1851 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.0003916 = 9.8683 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58641 @ 0.00039155 = 22.9609 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17500 @ 0.00039153 = 6.8518 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00039152 = 13.2334 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24800 @ 0.0003915 = 9.7092 BTC [-] [08:45]
mircea_popescu omg ? [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15018 @ 0.00039145 = 5.8788 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61500 @ 0.00039141 = 24.0717 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7000 @ 0.0003914 = 2.7398 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25100 @ 0.00039139 = 9.8239 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32087 @ 0.0003913 = 12.5556 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00039123 = 1.0954 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57991 @ 0.00039122 = 22.6872 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22500 @ 0.00039111 = 8.8 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52796 @ 0.00039101 = 20.6438 BTC [-] [08:45]
smickles i call 38 [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.000391 = 6.4906 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00039096 = 15.0129 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00039093 = 8.2877 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00039088 = 1.9153 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31444 @ 0.00039082 = 12.2889 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49547 @ 0.00039075 = 19.3605 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26400 @ 0.00039069 = 10.3142 BTC [-] [08:45]
mircea_popescu whay! [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17710 @ 0.00039065 = 6.9184 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7301 @ 0.00039055 = 2.8514 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00039053 = 11.4425 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27726 @ 0.00039036 = 10.8231 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00039036 = 8.5489 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00039036 = 12.2573 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57339 @ 0.00039033 = 22.3811 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00039026 = 8.0784 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24020 @ 0.00039023 = 9.3733 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00039018 = 6.3599 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 320 @ 0.00039017 = 0.1249 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47600 @ 0.00039015 = 18.5711 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32400 @ 0.00039015 = 12.6409 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49800 @ 0.00038991 = 19.4175 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00038988 = 4.6006 BTC [-] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4689 @ 0.00038986 = 1.8281 BTC [-] [08:45]
mircea_popescu hey, you called it. [08:46]
smickles :) [08:46]
mod6 that was a good call [08:46]
mircea_popescu lol did you just dump mpoe.etf holdings ? [08:46]
mircea_popescu omg i can't believe this [08:46]
mircea_popescu .py ( 0.00039288 - 0.00038986) / 0.00038986 * 100 [08:47]
markac 0.774637049197 [08:47]
mircea_popescu this is the new definition of solid. [08:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [007] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [+] [08:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [007] 2 @ 0.09 = 0.18 BTC [+] [08:47]
mircea_popescu hundreds of btcs sold, < 1% price drop [08:47]
smickles naw, mpoeetf still has all the shares it had a moment ago [08:48]
mircea_popescu well sbdy dumped [08:49]
smickles inb4 fake trades [08:49]
mircea_popescu right-o [08:50]
smickles who was it saying all the small value trades were suspicious? [08:50]
mircea_popescu lol define small value [08:50]
smickles <1btc, i think. maybe less than 5 [08:51]
mircea_popescu lol funny cause i just re-read the list, there's nothing < 1 [08:51]
smickles i.e., a chain of sub-0.01 trades totalling less than 1btc [08:51]
smickles well i certainly like to see this depth hold and grow [08:52]
mircea_popescu nothing compred to mtgox depths yet, but we have hope. [08:53]
mod6 :] [08:55]
smickles well, there's a good hard-looking wall at .00035 it seems [08:57]
smickles about 370ish btc around there [08:58]
mircea_popescu yea [08:59]
smickles and well over a hundred btc until that even gets touched [08:59]
mircea_popescu well something like 500 or maybe even 1 k just got extracted [09:00]
mircea_popescu s.dice seems to have about the same 500 depth [09:00]
mircea_popescu i nthe end these aren't really too big if one thinks in terms of nyse stocks really [09:00]
mircea_popescu but i'd guess for btc it is pretty darn good. [09:00]
smickles what would a 1kbtc sell do to giga? [09:02]
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smickles looks like wipe the board [09:03]
mircea_popescu i dunno [09:03]
mircea_popescu .py 100000*0.00023000 [09:03]
markac 23.0 [09:03]
mircea_popescu ya even 500'd wipe [09:03]
mircea_popescu tho it;'s been sold to all hell actually [09:03]
mircea_popescu !ticker f.giga.etf [09:03]
assbot [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.000415 / 0.00042972 / 0.00047591 (118600 shares, 50.96 BTC), 30day: 0.00030644 / 0.0007656 / 0.00113797 (13928824 shares, 10,664.02 BTC) [09:03]
mircea_popescu it's been realy sold off massively, for whatever reason [09:04]
mircea_popescu looks pretty distressed. [09:04]
smickles huh, looking at glbse, there's tabs of 'bluemarket whitemarket pinkmarket blackmarket' [09:04]
smickles wonder what that's about [09:04]
smickles whatever reason? it's a fixed hash 'bond' isn't it? [09:05]
mircea_popescu well, glbse has to continually "reinvent" itself to distract people from the fact that pretty much any money they put in there is lost. [09:05]
mircea_popescu smickles ya but it took an abrupt beating this week [09:05]
smickles ah, it's categories of quality ostensibly [09:06]
smickles black has all the ppt's and such [09:06]
mircea_popescu right. had a bunch of scammy/failed stocks, made version 2.0. in due time this got filled with scammy/failed stocks so now makes colors [09:07]
mircea_popescu then 3.0 [09:07]
mircea_popescu then etc. [09:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 882 @ 0.0034 = 2.9988 BTC [+] [09:07]
Diablo-D3 [01:38:07] Diablo-D3: would you just need bookkeeping or would you need reports too? [09:08]
Diablo-D3 smickles: its the reports I suck at [09:08]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: btw, you missed that I was telling a joke [09:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15033 @ 0.00039715 = 5.9704 BTC [+] [09:11]
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smickles Diablo-D3: i'm considering offering services at ~6 btc an hour. if you keep double entry books, i could probably make your reports in one hour [09:14]
Diablo-D3 guh. [09:16]
smickles but this would have to wait until i finish moving [09:17]
smickles i should be done with that after oct 1 [09:17]
Diablo-D3 this would have to wait until dmc can afford that [09:18]
Diablo-D3 I swear Ive had this conversation before [09:19]
smickles *insert joke; form: 'how much can you afford?' cabbie takes the money, drives one block [09:19]
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mircea_popescu smickles: its the reports I suck at << this is very true. i would guess the entire thing could have been avoided with some well written reports. [09:22]
mircea_popescu people kept asking for reports, not getting them, eventually it turned into a lynch mob. [09:23]
smickles Diablo-D3: you really think 6 btc is too much? bean counting is a professional service [09:25]
Diablo-D3 smickles: our best month ever paid like 40btc dividends [09:26]
mircea_popescu ya this is the problem of btc really. both of you have a point. [09:26]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [09:33]
gribble Best bid: 11.6322, Best ask: 11.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.06780, Last trade: 11.63214, 24 hour volume: 36438, 24 hour low: 11.41502, 24 hour high: 11.799 [09:33]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,24hprc [09:34]
gribble 11.62 [09:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 1000 @ 0.30131631 = 301.3163 BTC [+] [09:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.39115708 = 391.1571 BTC [+] [09:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 220 @ 0.39114219 = 86.0513 BTC [-] [09:43]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C090T] 480 @ 0.30129138 = 144.6199 BTC [-] [09:43]
Diablo-D3 wow. [09:44]
Diablo-D3 smickles, usagi: it may be entirely possible the entire community is full of nutjobs [09:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 30383 @ 0.00047591 = 14.4596 BTC [+] [09:47]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 19617 @ 0.000485 = 9.5142 BTC [+] [09:47]
Diablo-D3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1192323#msg1192323 [09:48]
Diablo-D3 thats insane! [09:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.112 = 1.12 BTC [-] [09:54]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [22:15]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com || MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex || CST https://cryptostocks.com || ICBIT https://icbit.se || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || a biased message: http://smpake.com/ || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RMjqah [22:15]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Sat Aug 25 15:12:46 2012 [22:15]
kakobrekla planned. [22:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [+] [22:16]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:24]
gribble Best bid: 11.69, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 11.75, 24 hour volume: 18477, 24 hour low: 11.6, 24 hour high: 11.78991 [22:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70400 @ 0.00035 = 24.64 BTC [-] [22:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [+] [22:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 25 @ 0.0999 = 2.4975 BTC [+] [22:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6329 @ 0.00035061 = 2.219 BTC [+] [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46324 @ 0.00039699 = 18.3902 BTC [+] [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47347 @ 0.0003971 = 18.8015 BTC [+] [22:29]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] [22:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] [22:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.04998999 BTC [-] [22:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.04999 BTC [+] [22:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 130 @ 0.32 = 41.6 BTC [-] [22:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 57 @ 0.0999 = 5.6943 BTC [+] [22:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 343 @ 0.1 = 34.3 BTC [+] [22:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 45 @ 0.03158745 = 1.4214 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03144282 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03117194 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.0310594 = 0.4348 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.03090401 = 0.0618 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.03077875 = 0.0923 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.03065739 = 0.2146 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03051631 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.03031472 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.030279 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 109 @ 0.03 = 3.27 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.0261 = 0.3915 BTC [-] [22:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23653 @ 0.0003971 = 9.3926 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2120 @ 0.00039711 = 0.8419 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9647 @ 0.00039817 = 3.8411 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.0003985 = 9.9625 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3724 @ 0.00039885 = 1.4853 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15100 @ 0.0003989 = 6.0234 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59309 @ 0.00039898 = 23.6631 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00039938 = 20.4483 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00039941 = 0.5192 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13569 @ 0.00039997 = 5.4272 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00039999 = 9.9998 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56147 @ 0.00040062 = 22.4936 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00040063 = 6.8908 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57000 @ 0.00040108 = 22.8616 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00040112 = 1.6847 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61437 @ 0.00040115 = 24.6455 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3605 @ 0.00040116 = 1.4462 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49000 @ 0.00040156 = 19.6764 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41600 @ 0.00040167 = 16.7095 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00040172 = 7.713 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52062 @ 0.00040183 = 20.9201 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17396 @ 0.00040196 = 6.9925 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00040206 = 6.9958 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00040208 = 12.6253 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11599 @ 0.00040223 = 4.6655 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28000 @ 0.00040236 = 11.2661 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00040242 = 9.1752 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4400 @ 0.0004025 = 1.771 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54800 @ 0.00040263 = 22.0641 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00040284 = 5.1161 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56134 @ 0.00040285 = 22.6136 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25600 @ 0.00040346 = 10.3286 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00040362 = 2.9464 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00040383 = 22.5741 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44100 @ 0.00040387 = 17.8107 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00040406 = 18.6272 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00040426 = 12.4512 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41200 @ 0.00040459 = 16.6691 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1298 @ 0.00040583 = 0.5268 BTC [+] [22:42]
mircea_popescu hahaaa! teh lord takekh and teh lord giveth backeth. [22:46]
copumpkin I see nothing wrong with it [22:49]
copumpkin it's pretty standard practice to make a ladder of orders [22:49]
copumpkin I think it's like mtgox, where if your order for X crosses 100 small orders during execution, all of them get reported [22:50]
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mircea_popescu copumpkin ? [22:51]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: does MPEX report a separate trade for all orders crossed? [22:51]
mircea_popescu nope [22:52]
copumpkin that would explain them coming in batches and being comparatively small [22:52]
mircea_popescu what would be the point of that ? [22:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 3 @ 0.35 = 1.05 BTC [+] [22:52]
copumpkin well, if you report the aggregate active order, you need to talk about the average price it executed at [22:52]
copumpkin reporting smaller crossed orders can be exact [22:52]
mircea_popescu but in principle this is something that the aggregators do. [22:53]
mircea_popescu mpex furnishes the raw data. [22:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [+] [22:53]
mircea_popescu o wait. is some idiot on my ignore list being an ass ? [22:53]
copumpkin assbot is being an ass! [22:54]
mircea_popescu lol [22:54]
mircea_popescu lettuce point out to the anonymous yet random idiot that a second ago that dubious tyger-p-whatever DID THE EXACT SAME THING [22:54]
mircea_popescu albeit on a scale more adequate to the failure that is glbbq, which is to say 100th [22:54]
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copumpkin Smoovious: what's wrong with that? [22:55]
copumpkin if you're not going to let people take fractional shares, having lots of small shares is almost as good :) [22:55]
copumpkin Smoovious: it's more efficient ;) [22:55]
mircea_popescu it's incredible these people. they do something WRONG because they are INCOMPETENT. then they get used to it. then when somebody does it right they whine. [22:56]
mircea_popescu you don't belong on the internet, get off it. [22:56]
copumpkin Smoovious: what's wrong with having loads of tiny shares? [22:56]
copumpkin that's what I was saying is more efficient [22:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] [22:58]
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copumpkin say you have some criterion for picking an optimal portfolio, and the optimal portfolio wants 1.3 shares of BRK-A [22:58]
copumpkin (BRK-A shares cost $130k each) [22:58]
copumpkin you can't do that, because you don't have fractional shares [22:58]
copumpkin so you either need to have too much BRK-A, or too little [22:58]
copumpkin heh [22:59]
copumpkin you make an excellent argument and I concede [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.6549 = 5.8941 BTC [+] [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.655 = 5.24 BTC [+] [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 20 @ 0.697699 = 13.954 BTC [+] [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 30 @ 0.6977 = 20.931 BTC [+] [22:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.69998 = 2.0999 BTC [+] [22:59]
* jcpham copumpkin's [22:59]
jcpham i like to make sure the books on the shelf are listed by library of congress number [23:00]
jcpham crazy ocd person! [23:01]
mircea_popescu you're a statist! [23:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [PIMP] 100 @ 0.101 = 10.1 BTC [-] [23:03]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PIMP] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [-] [23:03]
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jcpham that's insane [23:03]
jcpham stop breathing my oxygen [23:03]
BTC-Mining I need more assets... who's selling DMC? [23:04]
BTC-Mining or anything else for that matter [23:05]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining i seriously doubt anyone holds dmc outside of the people he traded assets with. [23:05]
mircea_popescu but otherwise, have some s.dice. [23:05]
BTC-Mining eh, how far are they by now [23:05]
mircea_popescu far ? [23:06]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [23:06]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.0034 / 0.0034 / 0.0034 (8000 shares, 27.20 BTC), 30day: 0.0032 / 0.00329454 / 0.0034 (4637641 shares, 15,278.91 BTC) [23:06]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 900 @ 0.00043545 = 0.3919 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11500 @ 0.00042821 = 4.9244 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1000 @ 0.00042665 = 0.4267 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7774 @ 0.00042487 = 3.3029 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3271 @ 0.00042197 = 1.3803 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 555 @ 0.00041616 = 0.231 BTC [-] [23:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 74 @ 0.12999 = 9.6193 BTC [+] [23:09]
BTC-Mining Still 4 million at 0.0034 [23:10]
BTC-Mining Wasn't the new design supposed to be out already? [23:10]
mircea_popescu mmm maybe. [23:12]
BTC-Mining Kick evoorhees for me. Tell him to have the new design ready already. [23:13]
mircea_popescu lol. i hate new designs. [23:14]
mircea_popescu if i were to kick him for something, it'd be to never change it in the first place. [23:14]
BTC-Mining GIGAMINING passthrough on MPEX [23:18]
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BTC-Mining ~ 0.42 on MPEX [23:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 194 @ 0.0030505 = 0.5918 BTC [-] [23:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+] [23:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.00339999 = 0.085 BTC [-] [23:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 475 @ 0.0033999 = 1.615 BTC [-] [23:23]
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BTC-Mining Arf, I need to find a good deal somewhere [23:28]
mircea_popescu lol now that diablo's gone ? [23:30]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.495 = 0.99 BTC [+] [23:36]
BTC-Mining Anyone need to dump anything? [23:39]
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BTC-Mining Oh oh! [23:46]
BTC-Mining pink white blue black market implemented [23:46]
BTC-Mining with default market page not including black market assets [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3825 @ 0.00041616 = 1.5918 BTC [-] [23:47]
BTC-Mining and all pirate/scam/gone issuer assets are in black market it seems [23:47]
BTC-Mining I'm now back in the top 20 of traded assets [23:49]
mircea_popescu wd [23:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.665889 BTC [-] [23:51]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.1 = 0.5 BTC [+] [23:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.162998 BTC [-] [23:53]
* matthewh3 (~matthewh3@109.144.166.94) has joined #bitcoin-assets [23:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0033999 = 0.0102 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 77 @ 0.1 = 7.7 BTC [+] [23:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5553 BTC [+] [23:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [IBB] 1 @ 0.5897 BTC [-] [23:59]
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