Forum logs for 15 Jun 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
moiety kakobrekla: thanks! though, this is like wearing braces or something.... XD [00:01]
Apocalyptic moiety, the message won't contain the quotes [00:01]
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moiety I just saw that..and felt silly [00:01]
moiety >.> [00:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 125 @ 0.07951719 = 9.9396 BTC [+] {4} [00:27]
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FabianB !up empyex [00:56]
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FabianB $depth f.mpif [00:56]
empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 1000 @ 0.00021562 10000 @ 0.00021561 [00:56]
empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000 [00:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28600 @ 0.0008179 = 23.3919 BTC [-] {3} [01:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3854 @ 0.00007784 = 0.3 BTC [+] [01:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.08 = 0.72 BTC [+] [01:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.08 = 4.32 BTC [+] {2} [01:47]
Mats_cd03 i would buy many write blocking devices if s.nsa offered them for sale [01:54]
Mats_cd03 im using the vinco board to do it in lieu of golden toilet [01:55]
Mats_cd03 asciilifeform ^ [01:55]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.08 = 0.96 BTC [+] [01:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26404 @ 0.00081705 = 21.5734 BTC [-] [02:01]
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benkay neat trick, FabianB [02:17]
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FabianB benkay: it's mpexbot a little improved [02:23]
FabianB !up empyex [02:23]
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FabianB $conference [02:23]
empyex FabianB: Next conference starts in 10 months and 3 days. Estimated cost today: 2.33372229 BTC [02:23]
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FabianB $vwap s.mg [02:24]
empyex FabianB: S.MG 1 day: no data 7 day: no data 30 day: average: 0.00009054 high: 0.00012399 low: 0.00009 volume: 402335 btc: 36.42872565 [02:24]
FabianB $mpexlag [02:25]
empyex FabianB: 132 milliseconds [02:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 575 @ 0.07266747 = 41.7838 BTC [-] {34} [02:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59507 @ 0.00082541 = 49.1177 BTC [+] {4} [02:32]
dub goxxed [02:36]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [03:09]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [03:09]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony im not even sure, but i think 16 was back in the 90s before all the nonsense about fucking teenagers gripped the us [03:11]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: moiety: i suspect that ocelot is quasi-tame (lives on the dock, fed fish?) << not that tame from what i hear [03:16]
mircea_popescu plenty of "owners" got bit / mauled. sorta like pitbull ** 2 [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16084 @ 0.00082743 = 13.3084 BTC [+] [03:19]
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moiety this had developed into a harder to determine label though hasnt it [03:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that particular beast [03:24]
asciilifeform (not the species) [03:24]
moiety hes no a beast, he wants clapped [03:25]
mircea_popescu lol [03:25]
benkay $vwap s.nsa [03:25]
moiety clapped = petted inscottish btw, sorry [03:25]
benkay plenty of "owners" got bit / mauled. sorta like pitbull ** 2 // don't you start with this pernicious shit [03:26]
mircea_popescu benkay hm ? [03:26]
chetty cats in general are less predictable than dogs [03:26]
moiety it's the life if a bad rep... it doesnt mean you are bad, just thatpeople have said you have done bad things [03:27]
moiety benkay ^ [03:27]
benkay pits are entirely great dogs. [03:27]
mircea_popescu empyex sick ? [03:27]
benkay $vwap s.mpoe [03:27]
mircea_popescu benkay that is besides the point. they are demanding dogs. [03:27]
benkay "demanding" what does this mean? [03:27]
benkay that one must actually train them? [03:27]
moiety has pooch got a pal yet benkay .. have you caved to puppy requests? [03:28]
chetty to properly own/train a pitbull takes more skill than say a poodle [03:28]
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asciilifeform there's a school of thought that one should have a potentially man-eating pet, that way you know that it really likes you [03:28]
benkay moiety: the plan is to satisfy the baby crazy with...a baby. [03:28]
asciilifeform (or something like that) [03:28]
moiety my favourite dog no one had even heard of. i like the jp chin. they are like cats you know they dont bark. does this mean im a cat lady to the bone or accepting? [03:29]
asciilifeform (if not yet eaten) [03:29]
mircea_popescu that one must actually train them? << yes. [03:29]
moiety benkay: woah for real? [03:29]
mircea_popescu all the time. not whenever they have the time or feel like it. [03:29]
moiety you know they talk back after X years right? [03:29]
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mircea_popescu and training means a thing. not whatever some derp has the stomach for [03:29]
mircea_popescu but actually hitting them over the head [03:29]
benkay i've never shied from that. [03:30]
mircea_popescu that's you. [03:30]
mircea_popescu and maybe five other people in your town [03:30]
benkay de veras [03:30]
mircea_popescu so then. ocelot is even worse [03:30]
mircea_popescu it'll fucking love you if you're a better ocelot than it is [03:30]
mircea_popescu if you're an american it'll kill you in your sleep and feed on your entrails. [03:30]
moiety pits have erned themselves the rep of nanny dogs, why doesnt this get taken into account? [03:30]
moiety no [03:31]
asciilifeform there are tiger, lion tamers, in america [03:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform and also chartered accountants. [03:31]
asciilifeform somewhere. (i recall one was eaten quite recently) [03:31]
benkay because americans don't think, they react to fear moiety. [03:31]
justusranvier Pits are extremely affectionate dogs towards humans. Some of them have been bred for dog aggression. [03:31]
mircea_popescu ;;google monty python chartered accountant lion tamer [03:31]
gribble Monty Python - Lion Tamer - YouTube: ; Chartered Accountant by Monty Python.mp4 - YouTube: ; Monty Python - Vocational Guidance Counsellor - YouTube: [03:31]
moiety mircea_popescu: but but but ocelot, such eyes, boig blobs on ears [03:31]
moiety fuck did i just define rasicsm? sorry] [03:31]
mircea_popescu moiety you know, animal eyes are empty. the humanity you see in there is your own projection. [03:32]
moiety not define, exemplify* [03:32]
moiety mircea_popescu: how do you know they are empty? [03:32]
benkay the thing about pits is that they've got this long history of being bred to defend the family from things, where things can be everything from home invaders to bears on the plains during the trek to oregon [03:32]
benkay this rocket can put you in orbit or drop a warhead on your friend's face. [03:33]
asciilifeform moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCI80qmRbVs [03:33]
assbot - YouTube [03:33]
mircea_popescu moiety if you ever get to kill a bunch of people and a bunch of animals, you'll eventually notice the difference :) [03:33]
asciilifeform moiety: and, of course, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKDFLQMxmN4 [03:34]
assbot - - YouTube [03:34]
asciilifeform translation: '... i know her weak points, and when she misbehaves, i know exactly where to smack...' [03:36]
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benkay although re smacks mine responds most promptly to a squirt of water in the face. [03:37]
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benkay you know they talk back after X years right? // you should have heard the things as what came out of my mouth. [03:37]
mircea_popescu Mats_cd03: i would buy many write blocking devices if s.nsa offered them for sale <<< asciilifeform when are we making this man happy ? [03:39]
mircea_popescu $conference [03:39]
moiety asciilifeform: i cant understand this but tht cat ispretty huge! do you think tho that that's cat's general nature. they need, you give = omg you have a domestic - ish [03:39]
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mircea_popescu FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 [03:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'first you pillage, then you burn' or how did it go [03:39]
mircea_popescu lol [03:39]
moiety mircea_popescu: i got asked once if i wanted someone killed... it's a bigger question than you realise til you are asked [03:40]
moiety i say once i mean recently [03:41]
mircea_popescu lol what are you, the new sr madam ? [03:41]
moiety asciilifeform: on second vid... they are pretty big fullly grown! these guys dont mind having them in home, no bother [03:41]
asciilifeform moiety: the cat - siberian lynx. no tamer naturally than tiger. 2nd link, the man describes how he disciplines the animal [03:41]
asciilifeform exactly what mircea_popescu said [03:42]
moiety the ocelot doesnt seem bothered by the man at all [03:42]
asciilifeform moiety: 1st link - also siberian lynx. in moscow apartment. [03:43]
moiety it seems happy enough, i guess as it doesnt know any better [03:44]
moiety are you telling me if i gpt manul baby, it would be happy [03:45]
asciilifeform moiety: 2nd lynx was found in the wild as a kitten (hunters killed its mother) [03:45]
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moiety omg thats so sad [03:45]
moiety ive been looking into these charity manul people and i dont trust them [03:46]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/on-the-superiority-of-monarchy-or-adnotations-to-why-the-worst-get-on-top/#comment-101188 [03:48]
assbot On The Superiority of Monarchy (or, adnotations to Why the Worst Get on Top) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:48]
moiety such bonny coluring, folk just run in and steal them,exotic pets or fur trade gives a lot. urgh [03:48]
mircea_popescu people arguing with me, always a funny sight. [03:48]
moiety oooh new header again [03:49]
moiety i like this one, how often do they rotate? the last one eas really nice but didnt stay as long as monoply or have i lostt time via moving - entirely pribable [03:51]
moiety was* [03:51]
moiety *probable* [03:51]
mircea_popescu moiety normally they rotate quarterly, but i've done like 3 or 4 this past month cause why the hell not sorta thing [03:52]
* asciilifeform reports from the unintended-side-effects-of-new-tech-department: put on new set of noise-cancellers, can now hear my tongue move. disturbing. [03:52]
moiety mircea_popescu: prexactly, your blog, why not :D good on you! [03:53]
moiety nsa thanks you asciilifeform but they get bored of cats....i don't however, just so you know [03:53]
moiety don't mean to make all you al cringe but.... [03:55]
moiety http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/14/size-does-matter-apparently-as-man-sues-hospital-for-shortening-his-penis-4761533/ [03:55]
assbot Size does matter- man sues hospital for shortening his penis | Metro News [03:55]
moiety i think whats important to note here is his wife is a fucking cunt [03:56]
mircea_popescu uh why ? [03:56]
asciilifeform related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJE7uJyHJ3k [03:57]
assbot Monty Python - Ypres 1914, The Short Straw - YouTube [03:57]
moiety mircea_popescu: cus you should marry to stick by someone, not run off when they cant have sex for 24 months [04:00]
moiety (i think) [04:00]
mircea_popescu well maybe she married to be sticked by someone [04:03]
Mats_cd03 i mean...thats a long time [04:04]
moiety personally, i feel it was a scapegoat situation [04:11]
moiety i feel like, she probably waycnted to leave following his paraplegia. I mean, why marry someone you would see it through with? [04:12]
moiety wanted* [04:12]
moiety wouldn't* [04:12]
moiety so sorry, i make little sense after wine [04:13]
mircea_popescu anyone of teh unvoiced looking to do a bit of coding ? [04:14]
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kakobrekla (hint: they cant speak) [04:15]
mircea_popescu they can pm! [04:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.02399874 = 0.192 BTC [+] {3} [04:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.07519678 = 2.1807 BTC [+] {3} [04:24]
moiety what kind of coding? [04:24]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.07949933 = 1.1925 BTC [+] {2} [04:26]
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mircea_popescu so a man reads "But that particular December nothing positive had taken place, except for the Soviet-Chinese talks - though even they seemed to have got bogged down - and the seventieth birthday of the Leader of the Peoples. He could scarcely tell the Germans about the trial of Traicho Rostov, at which the whole blatant MISE-EN-SCENE had suddenly come unstuck in open court and the correspondents had been fobbed off, af [04:35]
mircea_popescu ter some delay, with a false confession allegedly written by Rostov in the death cell. This was too shameful, and it would hardly have served the purposes of reeducation." and then goes to search, curious what the internets know of rostov ? [04:35]
mircea_popescu http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18140285 << apparently they know a whole lot. [04:35]
assbot 17 Dec 1949 - Drawbacks Of A Communist Career [04:35]
mircea_popescu the last paragraph is perhaps quite important, for all the "bitcoin entrepreneurs" so very eager to sign plea bargains. broz tito outlived stalin, and nearly outlived the soviets. [04:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018498 = 0.185 BTC [-] [04:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22336 @ 0.00082664 = 18.4638 BTC [-] [04:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.07324745 = 0.8057 BTC [-] {2} [04:57]
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thestringpuller %diff [05:00]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 715369.85 Est. Next Diff: 439711.37 in 982 blocks (#36288) Est. % Change: -38.53 [05:00]
mircea_popescu %b [05:01]
mircea_popescu %book [05:01]
atcbot 35k@250 2k@240 16k@235 | 0k@180 0k@176 0k@172 [05:01]
mircea_popescu lol cool. [05:01]
thestringpuller no bid depth [05:01]
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thestringpuller difficulty is kinda mad high on ATC must be some ASICs out there on the network [05:01]
asciilifeform 'Stop sending people to kill me. We've already captured five of them, one of them with a bomb and another with a rifle. If you don't stop sending killers, I'll send one to Moscow, and I won't have to send a second.' [05:06]
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asciilifeform (famous letter from tito to stalin, found on the latter's desk after his death) [05:06]
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mircea_popescu ayup. [05:09]
mircea_popescu im playing moscopol tangos in the crisp argentine air, and chasing their splendid ciruelas with my splendid imported plum juice [05:11]
mircea_popescu it's a sort of paradise. [05:11]
aabtc aegis agamemnon23 agorecki akstunt600 AlexWkz AndrewJackson Anduck Anon29486307 Apocalyptic arij Armstrong artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot atian AusBitBank Azelphur [05:13]
mircea_popescu btw asciilifeform re zaraza : www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Y8kylOsF0 (the original, uruguay) [05:13]
asciilifeform lol! [05:13]
asciilifeform interesting spoiler: http://www.tango-l.com/archives/Tango-L/msg03006.html [05:15]
assbot [TANGO-L] zaraza or Zaraza [05:15]
mircea_popescu (the uruguayan is SO MUCH BETTER too) [05:16]
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mircea_popescu funnier still : "Buey zaraza, tus ojos tristones" in original. buey is commonly used in romanian today as a vocative address [05:25]
mircea_popescu (sort-of like "yo!") [05:25]
mircea_popescu meanwhile the term is actually... orcadian! [05:26]
mircea_popescu (where it means boy. spoken the same way) [05:26]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: try this one on for size: [05:28]
asciilifeform 'the Western blok... preferred to view the Eastern European nations as victims of Soviet aggression, ignoring the simple and manly fact (that would have been instantly understood by a Roman) that Soviet legions, without anyone's help, took possession of Eastern Europe via force of arms, answering aggression with aggression. And the Roman would an absurdity - he could not comprehend, in the name of what so-called [05:28]
asciilifeform moral justice the legions ought to forsake the lands for which they had paid with their blood. Not only is the transference of conceptions of morality to the evaluation of historical events a phony method, but, if we recall, the moralists - the defeated European nations and the Americans, enemies of the USSR - that is to say, non-impartial moralists - their condemnations sound hollow indeed. The offenders, are, [05:28]
asciilifeform of course, unphased by this. We know now that their strategy of psychological war turned out to be a correct one... To establish the injustice, the 'meanness' of the enemy in a moralistic war is every bit as important as winning a pitched battle in a hot war.' [05:28]
asciilifeform from edward limonov, 'disciplinary sanitarium.' [05:28]
asciilifeform translation mine. [05:28]
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asciilifeform much as it must've sucked to be on the receiving end of the beast - much of what people like to gripe about re: soviet ham-handedness was, as you might say, 'forced mistake.' [05:31]
mircea_popescu certainly a forced mistake. [05:31]
mircea_popescu but look at the matter : ever since napoleon implemented the idiotic idea that people generally should have a voice merely for having been born, [05:32]
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mircea_popescu europe has had naught but turmoil. the russians ended up taking it in the ass twice for this reason, and painfully too. [05:32]
asciilifeform mr mold likes to crank it all the way back to... voltaire [05:32]
mircea_popescu that on the 2nd pass they eventually had enough and followed is reasonably understandable. [05:32]
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mircea_popescu that the 1800s quaint concepts of the superiority of the west, naive faith in the benevolence of the european man, and his general humanity, all that germanophillia etc [05:33]
mircea_popescu turned by1950 into a quite paranoid "we'll never be safe ever unelss we control it all" is equally sensible in context [05:33]
mircea_popescu the problem is that russia never was and likely never will be actually up to the task. [05:33]
mircea_popescu so it's a bit of a drama. [05:33]
asciilifeform benevolence of the european man, and his general humanity << the funny part is that the russian left (pro-american. if you want to actually understand post-collapse ussr, gotta understand why left->pro-us) went right back to this spiel [05:34]
mircea_popescu it's not voltaire, it's the french retard club, montaigne, saint simon, rousseau etc. [05:34]
asciilifeform 'hyooman riiights!' [05:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform they'll forever go to this spiel. [05:34]
mircea_popescu it's unavoidable. who else ? [05:34]
asciilifeform lelz [05:34]
mircea_popescu whether your father is a scientist or a drunk, or both, [05:34]
mircea_popescu as a six year old boy he's gonna be your father regardless. [05:35]
mircea_popescu meanwhile europe is going in it's second syphilitic-whore-with-a-gram-a-day-habit [05:37]
mircea_popescu such a thing kills everyone else, but it just goes to sleep and comes out virgin and 16 again. [05:37]
mircea_popescu (napoleon's "general's baton" bs is nothing but the reimplementation of the gracchi's reforms, 20 centuries prior) [05:39]
* asciilifeform no expert, but sees a europe that largely shot its wad in 1918 [05:39]
mircea_popescu quite. [05:39]
asciilifeform so where's the 16-virgin ? [05:39]
mircea_popescu cluny [05:40]
asciilifeform lol! [05:40]
mircea_popescu no kidding. [05:41]
mircea_popescu it did all this before. better, even, arguably, since still no man was yet as rich as crassus. [05:42]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/S2Y8kylOsF0 < here's a good one [05:46]
assbot Ignacio Corsini - Zaraza (1929) - YouTube [05:46]
mircea_popescu damn [05:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6-jlevnwQ that [05:46]
assbot Wiera Gran sings Russian tango - Ciemna noc (Temnaya Noch) - YouTube [05:46]
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benkay tonights delicacies: lady-made gnocchi with bacon and sea scallops in a pecorino cream sauce [05:52]
benkay i was introduced to a novel 'paper' last night: CaCO3 quarry byproduct + resin. [05:53]
benkay "eat recycled food" etc etc [05:54]
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mircea_popescu !up davidlatapie [05:59]
-assbot- You voiced davidlatapie for 30 minutes. [05:59]
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davidlatapie Hi mircea_popescu how are you doing? I'm sorry I did not have much time to participate recently. Not that is it getting better :) [06:03]
mircea_popescu not bad [06:03]
davidlatapie Awaken at 5PM? [06:06]
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moiety http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/brevard-judge-accused-punching-public-defender/ngCGC/ [06:23]
assbot Brevard judge tells attorney, 'I'll beat your ass,' allegedly... | www.wftv.com [06:23]
benkay "speedy trial" is a bit vauge. [06:27]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: napoleon's "general's baton" << i always understood that piece to speak of his favour for aristocracy 'of merit' vs of birth [06:41]
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asciilifeform when things get wedged at 'of birth' that's really an invitation for a napoleon to come and, technical term, 'fuck shit up just because' [06:43]
asciilifeform and there'll be plenty of folks ready to help [06:44]
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KRS1 thanks..i need level 2 for +v? [07:36]
benkay hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped [07:36]
benkay yup [07:36]
benkay ;;gettrust krs1 [07:36]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user krs1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=krs1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=krs1 | Rated since: never [07:36]
KRS1 thought i just authenticated [07:36]
benkay ;;ident KRS1 [07:36]
gribble CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'KRS1', with hostmask 'KRS1!~chrix@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net', is identified as user 'KRS', with GPG key id DDCA1AC02D73D555, key fingerprint AEDA19C1901B6FA0207B9620DDCA1AC02D73D555, and bitcoin address None [07:36]
benkay ;;gettrust assbot KRS [07:36]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask KRS1!~chrix@c-50-143-86-143.hsd1.fl.comcast.net. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user KRS: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=KRS | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=KRS | Rated since: never [07:36]
benkay try /nick KRS /msg assbot !up /nick KRS1 [07:37]
KRS1 damnit someone else is KRS [07:37]
benkay hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly. [07:37]
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benkay talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset [07:38]
KRS1 ok thanks [07:38]
moiety krs1 have you tried releasing the nick in case they havent registered it? [07:41]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: and there'll be plenty of folks ready to help << clearly. [10:02]
mircea_popescu the problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing., [10:02]
mircea_popescu according to reddit, reddit's merituous. [10:03]
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FabianB <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots [12:06]
FabianB !up empyex [12:06]
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FabianB $vwap s.mpoe [12:07]
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benkay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309073.msg3315672#msg3315672 // but how are you going to get the pools to support a hard fork that would allow their participants to cheat? [12:19]
assbot A Non-Outsourceable Puzzle to Prevent Hosted Mining (and Mining Pools) [12:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18400 @ 0.00082704 = 15.2175 BTC [-] {3} [12:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 6 @ 0.03 = 0.18 BTC [-] [12:47]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 59(Y):41(N) by coin, 60(Y):40(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.45879439 BTC. Current weight: 77,914. [13:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PROV] 76 @ 0.002 = 0.152 BTC [14:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2 @ 0.0752 = 0.1504 BTC [-] [14:27]
thestringpuller happy fathers day mircea_popescu [14:30]
thestringpuller jkjk [14:30]
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davout mircea_popescu: around? [15:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.07543621 = 4.4507 BTC [+] {3} [15:49]
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kakobrekla hey that's a neat way to advertise that you want yourself upped // i suggested this ages ago and was shot down mercilessly. [15:51]
kakobrekla talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels. [15:51]
kakobrekla FabianB is it registered with nickserv? [15:51]
kakobrekla ops first paste went over 2 lines. [15:52]
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FabianB kakobrekla: yes, it is [16:06]
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nubbins` morning, folks [16:10]
Mats_cd03 i forgot the private key associated with gribble :s [16:11]
chetty g'day nubbins` [16:12]
FabianB Mats_cd03: no second auth via btc address? [16:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12552 @ 0.00082179 = 10.3151 BTC [-] [16:13]
Mats_cd03 no [16:14]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/gamer-dad-ranks-on-mashable-top-pops-list-for-donkey-kong-hack-1.2675866 [16:14]
assbot Gamer dad ranks on Mashable 'top pops' list for Donkey Kong hack - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [16:14]
nubbins` Mats_cd03, you forgot your private key :0 [16:14]
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FabianB Mats_cd03: did you loose it or did you forget the passphrase? [16:16]
Mats_cd03 ive forgotten the passphrase [16:17]
Mats_cd03 i was stoned when i setup gpg :( [16:17]
chetty you didnt write it down on paper and store elsewhere either I guees :/ [16:22]
nubbins` !b 4 [16:26]
assbot Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3C1ENF.txt ) [16:26]
nubbins` dead link [16:27]
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nubbins` there's a very high-looking woman sitting on my front step [16:27]
nubbins` she keeps holding her head [16:27]
fluffypony nubbins`: do you live in the Bronx of Canada? [16:29]
chetty give the poor woman some water [16:29]
nubbins` fluffypony, after a fashion [16:30]
nubbins` chetty, it'll just encourage her [16:30]
nubbins` although i'll probably spray her with some water if she doesn't move on soon [16:30]
Mats_cd03 shake your walker at her too [16:31]
nubbins` heh [16:31]
fluffypony hah hah [16:32]
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nubbins` oh fuck someone gave her a sandwich [16:38]
nubbins` WHY [16:38]
kakobrekla so much compassion :) [16:39]
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nubbins` compassion == me letting her stay there thus far [16:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.0018501 = 0.185 BTC [+] [16:54]
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assbot KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [16:58]
kakobrekla !up KRS1 [16:59]
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nubbins` sweet, she moved on [17:02]
assbot KRS1 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [17:03]
danielpbarron !up KRS1 [17:05]
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KRS1 thank anyway danielpbarron, apparently I'm not "elite" enough for this channel..and i don't want to waste any more of kakobrekla's precious fucking time. [17:06]
kakobrekla stop being retarded. [17:07]
nubbins` pull up a chair and stay a while [17:08]
nubbins` it's not like people won't !up you all day :D [17:08]
chetty having a gpg key and a wot rating is elite? who knew [17:08]
nubbins` chetty: it's not?! ;D [17:08]
chetty ../sarcasm [17:09]
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KRS1 Thanks but I can't nubbins, my wot rating isn't good enough to stay. Chetty: You need a better WOT rating. (level 2 with assbot >0) [17:09]
fluffypony navy seals grade [17:09]
nubbins` now you're just being silly, you don't need a wot rating to stay [17:09]
nubbins` it just makes a couple things more convenient [17:09]
chetty !up KRS1 [17:10]
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nubbins` http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=krs1 [17:10]
assbot Rating Details for User 'krs1' [17:10]
nubbins` This user has not authenticated for more than 164 days :0 [17:10]
nubbins` http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=krs-1 [17:11]
assbot Rating Details for User 'krs-1' [17:11]
nubbins` This user has not authenticated for more than 219 days :00000 [17:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4635 @ 0.00007999 = 0.3708 BTC [+] [17:14]
danielpbarron KRS1, it looks to me like kakobrekla voice you first; I'm not sure why would would have a problem with him.. [17:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26487 @ 0.00083111 = 22.0136 BTC [+] {2} [17:15]
KRS1 danielpbarron: you are right..he did respond to me. [17:17]
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KRS1 guess it was the "way" he did it [17:18]
KRS1 its cool tho..im gonna shuffle off now [17:19]
fluffypony shuffle off your mortal coil? [17:19]
nubbins` kako's pretty ornery [17:19]
nubbins` here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH [17:20]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [17:20]
fluffypony lol [17:20]
nubbins` you can't really tell, but he's wearing dockers and a leather belt [17:20]
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nubbins` sup [\\\\\\\\\\\\] [17:24]
nubbins` !up [\] [17:24]
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nubbins` !up arij [17:24]
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nubbins` !up Dimsler [17:35]
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kakobrekla yeah, i should get a pipe. [17:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.22754774 = 1.1377 BTC [-] {3} [17:37]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.22793133 = 0.6838 BTC [+] {2} [17:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.22963226 = 4.1334 BTC [+] {6} [17:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1213 @ 0.00083344 = 1.011 BTC [+] [17:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 89 @ 0.0018501 = 0.1647 BTC [+] {2} [17:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 54 @ 0.075 = 4.05 BTC [-] {2} [17:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.0753 = 0.9036 BTC [+] [17:45]
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thestringpuller !MPIF [17:58]
thestringpuller !mpif [17:58]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021658 BTC (Total: 433.17 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021703 BTC [-] [17:58]
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thestringpuller nubbins`: around? [17:59]
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nubbins` yep [18:03]
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thestringpuller how much for the shirt now? [18:06]
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thestringpuller ;;calc [ticker --last] * 2$ [18:06]
gribble Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (, line 1) [18:06]
thestringpuller ;;calc [ticker --last] * 25 [18:07]
gribble 13997 [18:07]
thestringpuller ;;calc 25 / [ticker --last] [18:07]
gribble 0.0446524255198 [18:07]
thestringpuller nubbins`: ^-- [18:07]
nubbins` ^ [18:10]
nubbins` 1TDaWh3MDibweoNaEjAAT8YHG3QmoBXqG [18:10]
thestringpuller kay one moment [18:12]
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thestringpuller sent [18:15]
thestringpuller OH CRAP [18:15]
thestringpuller there is no fee on it is there :( [18:15]
thestringpuller c6fa408cf3ace5839a367b678286cd0aab064ac6a8288bc80ed9acf4ae20aadc [18:15]
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thestringpuller oh well nubbins` it'll get there evenutally [18:16]
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kakobrekla learn to no fee [18:17]
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mircea_popescu <+mircea_popescu> FabianB this shit is so damned cool but why doesn't it work!!11 <-- i guess i should ask kakobrekla to include empyex in the list of voiced bots << o ya kako please add empy [18:24]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu: around? << aye [18:24]
mircea_popescu no << you're fucked. [18:25]
kakobrekla yes i was on it but got distracted [18:26]
kakobrekla what is the bots name again [18:26]
nubbins` thestringpuller: no rush. pm your shipping info when ready [18:26]
mircea_popescu having a gpg key and a wot rating is elite? who knew << damn straight., [18:26]
kakobrekla ah empyex [18:26]
kakobrekla i suck reading [18:27]
thestringpuller http://www.designboom.com/competition/deutsche-bank-future-banking/ [18:27]
assbot DEUTSCHE BANK - Future Banking [18:27]
nubbins` i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating [18:27]
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thestringpuller ;;gettrust nubbins` [18:27]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013 [18:27]
nubbins` JUST KIDDING :D [18:27]
kakobrekla Naphex chanserv doesnt like you [18:28]
mircea_popescu here's a recent pic of him: http://imgur.com/Ho4chGH << actually he looks like that guy when he was 30ish :D [18:29]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [18:29]
nubbins` no joke, that pic came from a site called "gay gamer" [18:29]
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thestringpuller oh nubbins` do you have a mockup of what it looks like with the #bitcoin-assets printed on it? [18:30]
mircea_popescu i was actually offered a consulting gig at a local credit union because of my wot rating << tru story ? [18:30]
nubbins` mp, all lies ;( [18:30]
mircea_popescu np, it shall be perpetuated as truth regardless. [18:30]
nubbins` thestringpuller: i forgot to take pix. same font, smaller, "irc.freenode.net" with "#bitcoin-assets" underneath, just below top collar [18:30]
* nubbins` nods [18:30]
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thestringpuller on back or front? [18:31]
nubbins` back [18:31]
thestringpuller nice [18:31]
thestringpuller hmm i like that [18:31]
thestringpuller i'll take the optinal channel label! [18:31]
nubbins` right on [18:31]
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* mircea_popescu remembers when people were pissed off at hashking on the forum for stealing all their bitcoinz, and some forumer said he sounds like he's 14 and he sarcastically said o no he's 15. formonths afterwards ppl were like 15 yo stole our monyz!!11 in all seriousness. [18:31]
nubbins` heh [18:32]
nubbins` dangerous things, words [18:32]
mircea_popescu especially not mine. [18:32]
nubbins` thestringpuller: pm address and i'll get it printed & sent off within the next few days [18:32]
nubbins` oh and what size! [18:33]
thestringpuller kay. lets wait for 1 confirm first [18:33]
thestringpuller hmmm [18:33]
thestringpuller sizes always vary [18:33]
nubbins` standard gildan shirts [18:33]
* kakobrekla still thinks hashking was 13 [18:33]
thestringpuller XD [18:33]
mircea_popescu i was thinking, "he'll have to think about that" [18:33]
nubbins` if you're not sure, opt for a larger size, they'll shrink a bit in the wash [18:33]
thestringpuller i'll do a large then [18:33]
nubbins` k [18:33]
thestringpuller the other shirts I had printed were medium in fruit of the loom, my lanky arms make it uncomfortable sometimes XD [18:34]
mircea_popescu hm, 16 core cpus are cool just because you get to watch the colored lines if you feel like it [18:34]
nubbins` FTL are a notoriously bad fit :D [18:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3687 @ 0.0008323 = 3.0687 BTC [+] [18:37]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla afaik he was some neighbour of gigavps' or some shit [18:37]
kakobrekla a. [18:38]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/L4gH8Eg.gif [18:45]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:49]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 555.88, Best ask: 557.65, Bid-ask spread: 1.77000, Last trade: 556.11, 24 hour volume: 13359.55845610, 24 hour low: 538.38, 24 hour high: 576.64, 24 hour vwap: 556.282040898 [18:49]
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nubbins` wow [18:50]
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FabianB $unconfirmed [18:56]
empyex FabianB: 749 [18:56]
FabianB thanks kakobrekla [18:56]
thestringpuller $depth MPIF [18:56]
empyex thestringpuller: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=eJBMcTug [18:56]
mircea_popescu nice [18:56]
FabianB $depth f.mpif [18:56]
empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Bids: 100 @ 0.00021659 10000 @ 0.00021640 1000 @ 0.00021562 10000 @ 0.00021561 [18:56]
empyex FabianB: [F.MPIF] Asks: 500 @ 0.00021726 1000 @ 0.00024000 100000 @ 0.00029000 10000 @ 0.00040000 [18:57]
mircea_popescu quite. [18:57]
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FabianB $conference [18:58]
empyex FabianB: Next conference starts in 10 months and 2 days. Estimated cost today: 2.36415088 BTC [18:58]
FabianB $avg [18:58]
empyex FabianB: 558.34 [18:58]
mircea_popescu yay haha [18:58]
mircea_popescu ;;rated FabianB [18:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07500033 = 0.45 BTC [-] {2} [18:58]
gribble You rated user FabianB on Tue Mar 25 20:11:54 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Ruby pympex extension, some trades etc. [18:58]
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mircea_popescu http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/15/x-eur-june-15th-2014-statement/ [19:27]
assbot X.EUR June 15th 2014 statement | fr.anco.is [19:27]
mircea_popescu davout is nao reporting nicely. [19:27]
mircea_popescu pankkake addition to irker ? [19:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: problem still remains, that merit isn't a thing << now i'm curious [19:31]
mircea_popescu aha ? [19:31]
asciilifeform well, herr newton, etc. rising up from the ranks [19:32]
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mircea_popescu so a bunch of spanish peasants burnt down mexico city. [19:32]
mircea_popescu they... rose up from the ranks. [19:32]
asciilifeform lol [19:33]
mircea_popescu well ? [19:33]
mircea_popescu what's hernan cortes' merit ? [19:33]
asciilifeform point [19:33]
* asciilifeform still no confucian [19:34]
mircea_popescu merit only exists in a measuring context. the choice of a measuring context is political. [19:34]
mircea_popescu merit isn't a thing. [19:34]
chetty unless of course its yours [19:34]
asciilifeform btw, anyone following the discussion who is unfamiliar with 'simulated annealing' method of mathematical wizardry, should open a book and quickly become familiar [19:35]
asciilifeform it relates. [19:35]
penguirker New blog post: http://fr.anco.is/2014/06/15/x-eur-june-15th-2014-statement/ [19:35]
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mircea_popescu danke [19:36]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform the space isn't discrete tho. [19:37]
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asciilifeform ? [19:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00203017 = 0.203 BTC [+] {4} [19:38]
mircea_popescu isn't this the probabilistic thing that finds the shortest path going through one city or we ? [19:39]
asciilifeform more general than this [19:39]
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mircea_popescu ok, let's rephrase [19:39]
asciilifeform picture a toy plastic 'landscape' with hills and valleys, and a couple of ball bearings [19:39]
asciilifeform you want to find the valleys. so you shake it. [19:39]
asciilifeform the ball bearings will, ideally, end up in the valleys [19:40]
asciilifeform but may very well get stuck in 'local minima' [19:40]
asciilifeform so the question becomes, how vigorously to shake. [19:40]
mircea_popescu the domains are not discrete ; the functions defined on them are not monotonous nor even differentiable. [19:40]
mircea_popescu the problem of merit is not analysable. [19:40]
mircea_popescu i suppose that's a much better statement than "merit isn't a thing" [19:41]
asciilifeform it's analysable in degenerate cases [19:41]
mircea_popescu degenerate cases aren't part of it. [19:41]
asciilifeform e.g. we don't know the ideal temperature for a living planet, but we can be pretty sure it isn't 10K [19:41]
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mircea_popescu this is part of the non-differentiability, it does not contain its degenerate cases. [19:41]
asciilifeform (or 5000K) [19:41]
mircea_popescu right. which were never part of the discussion of the ideal temperature anyway [19:42]
mircea_popescu basically, this is a magical set that never includes its margins [19:42]
mircea_popescu no matter how they may be defined [19:42]
mircea_popescu and while it includes a subset, and all its members, [19:42]
asciilifeform i'd say, if mr. newton can't do his thing because the city burns every tuesday, we're at '5000k' [19:42]
mircea_popescu it doesn't include the margins of any subset [19:42]
asciilifeform if he can't do his thing because he's worn a zombie collar from birth and knows his place in the uranium mines, we're at 10. [19:43]
mircea_popescu which i suppose is a very good formalisation of what i mean by "not analysable" : imagine a set of numbers which includes an order property, but excludes the highest and lowest member in any subset. [19:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i know exactly what mathematical contrievance you have in mind, just not convinced that it applies here [19:44]
mircea_popescu well if you were what'd we talk about :) [19:45]
asciilifeform lel [19:45]
mircea_popescu i'd be stuck getting back to this blogpost which is already too big anyway [19:45]
thestringpuller oooh more trilema to read [19:46]
thestringpuller trilema us father's day edition (jk) [19:46]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i only fuck whores anyway. they're no longer fertile on the grounds of all the countless abortions back when they were 16. [19:47]
mircea_popescu (jk) [19:47]
thestringpuller for some reason I don't think you're kidding :D [19:47]
thestringpuller since that seems to be the case, they try to plan a pregnancy for once then the OBGYN asks, "Well how many abortions have you had?" [19:48]
thestringpuller "Maybe motherhood isn't for you...have you considered adoption?" [19:48]
asciilifeform uterus odometer? [19:48]
thestringpuller !b 1 [19:49]
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chetty http://news.yahoo.com/french-pm-warns-disgruntled-socialists-could-disappear-165303556.html;_ylt=AwrBEiKVf5xTez8Ao1HQtDMD [20:01]
assbot French PM warns disgruntled Socialists they could "disappear" - Yahoo News [20:01]
[]bot Bet created: "Bitcoin to drop under $400 before August" http://bitbet.us/bet/944/ [20:01]
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mircea_popescu they should be happy to merely disappear [20:07]
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mircea_popescu the actual risk is that they're getting rounded up and sent to extermination labour camps. [20:07]
asciilifeform isn't that what is traditionally meant in this context for 'disappear' ? [20:07]
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asciilifeform desaparecido. [20:08]
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mircea_popescu i doubt very much he meant that. [20:09]
mircea_popescu for that matter, the gulag shall be quite public. webcams everywhere, with ample explanation as to what the criminal did. [20:10]
asciilifeform 'would you, could you, in the zoo?' [20:10]
mircea_popescu there should be a term, incidentally. [20:10]
asciilifeform zoolag. [20:11]
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mircea_popescu how do you say fascists in russian, except to denote not the folk that derped with hitler but the folk that dared propose the solutions to human problems are to be expected from groups rather than individuals ? and in english. [20:11]
[]bot Bet created: "Li Na wins Wimbledon" http://bitbet.us/bet/945/ [20:11]
chetty usually its the socialists and their various cousins that do the 'camps' thing. Can you think of a historical time they got the bad end of that deal? [20:13]
asciilifeform spain? [20:13]
mircea_popescu plenty of them. [20:13]
mircea_popescu it all starts in rome. [20:13]
asciilifeform (or at least the spain pictured in 'homage to catalonia') [20:13]
mircea_popescu feeding the christians to the lions was perhaps insufficient, but nevertheless in the right vein. [20:14]
asciilifeform we're rather long on christians and short on lions. [20:14]
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mircea_popescu the death of sir thomas moore, a fine example. [20:15]
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* asciilifeform can think of plenty of good candidates for zoolag [20:16]
mircea_popescu i bet you you can't. [20:16]
mircea_popescu stalin managed what, ten million out of fifty ? [20:16]
asciilifeform well, depends on what's a good candidate. does the exhibit need to be pretty to look at ? [20:16]
mircea_popescu you need tocome up with about 200 million names. [20:16]
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asciilifeform let them recommend each other. like the social network derpatrons. [20:17]
mircea_popescu which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940 [20:17]
asciilifeform in fact, this is sorta how the 'prior art' worked. [20:17]
mircea_popescu and their families [20:17]
mircea_popescu indeed so. [20:17]
mircea_popescu problem is, even if you put obama on the glory chair, he might not be able to remember who the fuck was in his cabinet [20:18]
chetty which is really not hard to do, take everyone that was involved in any manner in the government of an european or north american country past 1940/uhg [20:18]
mircea_popescu chetty well what, you expect to make omlette without breaking out some soviets ? [20:19]
chetty no, but I ain't volunteering to march off to zoolag either [20:19]
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asciilifeform problem, as seen in soviet example, is that you eventually run out of 'class enemies' and the meat grinder is still standing, well-oiled. then you have korolev doing time [20:20]
asciilifeform incidentally, stalin's '30s purges are almost universally misinterpreted. he was trying to close down the meatgrinder. [20:21]
asciilifeform by butchering the staff [20:21]
chetty absolutely, the meatgrinder is a bureaucracy like any other, and they don't die easy [20:21]
asciilifeform (didn't work) [20:21]
mircea_popescu in general, in pursuit of an idea the bone gets picked rather closely of meat. [20:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform someone needs to write an actual biography of stalin sometime. [20:21]
asciilifeform give it another century. [20:21]
asciilifeform 'Great Chiefs of the Iron Age' [20:22]
mircea_popescu all extant ones that i know of are written by dumbstruck idiots who think the man was somehow grand [20:22]
mircea_popescu the man was not grand in any sense. he was merelysimple. [20:22]
mircea_popescu the mental model for stalin is roughly speaking a 15 yo country boy. [20:22]
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asciilifeform ;;google "great chiefs of the iron age" [20:23]
gribble Tribal chief - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; CHAPTER 10: LATER IRON AGE STATES AND ... - Palgrave: ; Ancient Egyptian raw materials: metals - copper, bronze, iron, gold ...: [20:23]
mircea_popescu somehow ends up in the laboratory of power, obviously he pushes that ftizic trotsky aside. why not ? [20:23]
asciilifeform fail [20:23]
mircea_popescu and then, kinda is constantly scared by and trying to escape his own creations [20:23]
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asciilifeform phun phact. russian truck drivers had portraits of stalin in their windshields (facing out.) possibly even now. [20:24]
asciilifeform to the folks who didn't get dinged, he stood for... order. the empire having its shit together in some form. etc [20:25]
mircea_popescu yup [20:25]
asciilifeform 'Whether because of its historical traditions or for some other reason, the idea of self-government, of equality before the law and of personal freedom--and the responsibility that goes with these--are almost completely incomprehensible to the Russian people...To the majority of the people the very word 'freedom' is synonymous with 'disorder' or the opportunity to indulge with impunity in some kind of antisocial [20:25]
asciilifeform or dangerous activity.' [20:25]
mircea_popescu the empire wanted (correctly) its sovereignity invested properly [20:26]
mircea_popescu and so it was. [20:26]
asciilifeform (amalrik, 'Will the Soviet Union Survive 1984') [20:26]
mircea_popescu i vote for "other reason" : because it's fucking dumb, that's why. [20:26]
mircea_popescu not only does it not work, but it provably can not work. [20:27]
asciilifeform aye [20:27]
asciilifeform the supposed 'savages' get it. [20:27]
asciilifeform and the 'civilized man' - not so much. [20:27]
mircea_popescu as is generally the case. [20:27]
mircea_popescu one does not bother to call another barbar unless the another said something that really scared our one. [20:27]
mircea_popescu and you don't get scared by imagination. [20:27]
asciilifeform civilized man has to overcome his OD on coke, or reddit, or whatever, to make the jump. [20:28]
mircea_popescu nature makes no jumps. [20:28]
mircea_popescu civilised man shall have his dawn, and a proper burial. [20:28]
kakobrekla !up ronkrt [20:29]
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asciilifeform http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/oadam/33724550/105705/105705_original.gif [20:34]
asciilifeform http://img11.nnm.me/1/f/7/7/1/38cec3b3fd4898c951e2ee8b9ea_prev.jpg [20:36]
asciilifeform ^ translation: 'this is comrade stalin. you must know because of whom you still live.' [20:36]
mircea_popescu they had the same of nicholas [20:38]
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asciilifeform until he pissed away the realm [20:38]
mircea_popescu i blame his cousin or what was it [20:40]
mircea_popescu the general of moscow [20:40]
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chetty MP makes me sad, I can see the truth of much but it is hard to swallow happily, and that I guess is what drives the libs in the end. Truth hurts [20:41]
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mircea_popescu !up olliec [20:45]
-assbot- You voiced olliec for 30 minutes. [20:46]
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chetty "Some babies (aka fetuses) get their brains sucked out at birth. Others (aka Fulbights) get their brains sucked out at Berkely." (anonymous) [20:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.0753 = 1.0542 BTC [+] [20:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.075 = 1.125 BTC [-] {2} [21:09]
mircea_popescu lol [21:10]
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asciilifeform chetty: mp is rather like a surgeon - if surgeon could cry, he could not work - somethinglikethat [21:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21800 @ 0.0008333 = 18.1659 BTC [+] {3} [21:25]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is there a zero asset corporstion blog post? [21:25]
mircea_popescu no. [21:25]
thestringpuller ;;google site:trilema.com the zero asset corporation [21:25]
gribble Accounting for the nonzero asset corporation. The MPEx standard ...: ; BitBet, May 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; The list of discontinued assets on MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de ...: [21:25]
thestringpuller :( [21:26]
thestringpuller more [21:26]
thestringpuller ;;more [21:26]
gribble discontinued-assets-on-mpex> [21:26]
benkay ;;later tell vexual yes that's interesting zone right there hmu [21:31]
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gribble The operation succeeded. [21:31]
benkay talk to kakobrekla it's his ruleset < only if you are in wot and authed but dont reach the levels. < grand refinement [21:37]
kakobrekla is that supposed to be sarcastic? [21:45]
Apocalyptic hard to tell [21:45]
kakobrekla dunno maybe he is 13 too. [21:47]
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benkay * fluffypony polishes his elite GPG key // so leet [21:52]
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benkay Mats_cd03: and you were recently giving me a hard time about crypto. mhmmmmmmmm. [21:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 39 @ 0.0747627 = 2.9157 BTC [-] {3} [22:13]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/vreau-sa-mi-spui-frumoasa-zaraza/ [22:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2828 @ 0.00082927 = 2.3452 BTC [-] [22:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 447 @ 0.023 = 10.281 BTC [-] {2} [23:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 133 @ 0.023 = 3.059 BTC [-] [23:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 200 @ 0.04405928 = 8.8119 BTC [-] [23:07]
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FabianB $help [23:07]
empyex FabianB: Commands: '$avg' '$conference' '$depth' '$depth ' '$email' '$help' '$moo' '$mpexlag' '$post ' '$proxies' '$unconfirmed' '$vwap' '$vwap ' [23:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 200 @ 0.023 = 4.6 BTC [-] [23:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07357817 = 0.7358 BTC [-] {2} [23:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0735789 = 0.8094 BTC [+] {2} [23:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.074 = 1.036 BTC [+] {2} [23:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00082801 = 24.0951 BTC [-] {4} [23:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 153 @ 0.02099346 = 3.212 BTC [+] {4} [23:48]
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