Forum logs for 15 Dec 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu that's the later model. [00:02]
mircea_popescu there were like 3. shit, they even had a sedan. [00:02]
mircea_popescu it could fit i think two whole galons of shopping. [00:02]
BingoBoingo lol [00:04]
asciilifeform << 300 doesn't even buy 20% of a single one of the mandatory 2+ 'airbags' [00:04]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 02:45:53; mircea_popescu: i wish to see the car the us manufactures out of ~300 bucks. [00:04]
mircea_popescu yeawell [00:04]
mircea_popescu i hope i didn't get my off the cuff cast too far off. [00:05]
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mircea_popescu "Time-rate employment provides a major productivity improvement over servitude or (usually) piece rates." << amusingly, according to the soviets themselves, and the "golden age" romanians too, the main driver of sovieteconomy fail was the timewage. [00:08]
mircea_popescu and the introduction of piece rate a magnificent americanism. [00:09]
asciilifeform in india, they went further and applied the magnificent americanism to programmers [00:09]
asciilifeform so that we can enjoy 10,001-line unrolled 'for' loops [00:10]
mircea_popescu there is no closed form solution to humanity. [00:10]
mircea_popescu thanks god. [00:10]
mircea_popescu "Laborers were, even before the advent of the clock, commonly paid by the day. But how long is a “day”? It couldn’t be just daylight hours; this makes for a longer workday than employer and employer might otherwise agree to, and in northern latitudes it varies quite substantially within a year. With the rather heterogeneous measures of time, employer could cheat the employee out of hours, or vice versa, unl [00:13]
mircea_popescu ess they had a securely independent standard of time." [00:13]
mircea_popescu except not, especially if they work for a whole year, which everyone prefers to do anyway seeing how winter's not summer. [00:14]
mircea_popescu jesus i can't believe what i just read. [00:14]
mircea_popescu how is this possible! szabo was an intelligent, well read, erudite fellow! [00:14]
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mircea_popescu in other news, [00:15]
assbot ... ( ) [00:15]
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asciilifeform << megalith rant re: cars in su and morals etc. [00:17]
assbot Узнай-правду! (ru) • Просмотр темы - Почему Запорожец лучше Мерседеса? ... ( ) [00:17]
asciilifeform perhaps for mircea_popescu. [00:17]
* asciilifeform can't be arsed to translate - long. [00:18]
* mircea_popescu can't be arsed to read, was there. [00:18]
asciilifeform ''zaporozhets' cost 1,000 bottles of vodka.' [00:19]
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mircea_popescu and vodka was ~50 cents the bottle, at black market rate. [00:20]
mircea_popescu checkj me out! [00:20]
nubbins` asciilifeform [00:25]
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asciilifeform nubbins`: neato, l0l [00:26]
nubbins` thought the details seemed familiar, did some minor snooping [00:27]
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asciilifeform nubbins`: there are many curious things in those heathen lands. [00:28]
ben_vulpes whoa, no bingoboingo?! [00:32]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell bingoboingo many congratulations [00:32]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:32]
ben_vulpes << very much so, thread was on moving to cn, you expressed incredulity, no party this year [00:34]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 02:28:46; asciilifeform: << did i miss a thread ? no trilemaconf this year ? [00:34]
ben_vulpes grand shame considering the wine and steak cost/quality curve in bsas [00:34]
asciilifeform wake me up for ulan batur [00:34]
asciilifeform or can haz norilsk ? [00:35]
ben_vulpes what, we're doing novelty slums nao? [00:36]
* ben_vulpes would still attend, miserable multiday train rides notwithstanding [00:36]
asciilifeform iirc mircea_popescu likes slums [00:36]
ben_vulpes uno minimo respeto por la serenissima [00:37]
* ben_vulpes has fond memories of los cubanos en la grande manzana [00:38]
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* ben_vulpes off to duct tape more open sores together [00:47]
ben_vulpes ;;8ball should i fry an egg for this hamncheese? [00:47]
gribble The answer is a resounding no. [00:47]
ben_vulpes easy peasy [00:47]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $800 before Jul 2016 - [01:02]
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asciilifeform ;;isup [01:09]
gribble is down [01:09]
asciilifeform another melted switch ? [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20050 @ 0.00048055 = 9.635 BTC [-] {3} [01:09]
ben_vulpes first rule of ddos is dont talk about its impact on trilemma [01:09]
asciilifeform lulzy climatocalypse here in mordor [01:14]
asciilifeform i'mabout to switch on the ac [01:14]
asciilifeform in, yes, middle of dec. [01:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28348 @ 0.00048052 = 13.6218 BTC [-] [01:17]
asciilifeform << incidentally, wtf is ben_vulpes still doing in usaschwitz ? [01:18]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 03:32:39; ben_vulpes: grand shame considering the wine and steak cost/quality curve in bsas [01:18]
asciilifeform could direct $firm from elsewhere, no ? [01:18]
asciilifeform or does apple's compiler stop running when the southern cross is in the sky ? [01:19]
ben_vulpes you remember those tacks? [01:25]
trinque asciilifeform │ lulzy climatocalypse here in mordor << I'm in the woods in PA visiting; it's t-shirt weather. [01:27]
ben_vulpes lemme put it this way: it's hard to run a global short on the shartupconomy without finding takers on the long side. [01:29]
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adlai << but this is no good, the questions are coded by smell [03:51]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 02:22:31; BingoBoingo: perhaps he went adlai, knows what color 42 is [03:51]
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punkman for entomologists [04:19]
assbot The sad economics of being famous on the internet | Fusion ... ( ) [04:19]
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adlai some of the #bitcoin-cinephiles may enjoy Bridge of Spies (some may detest it as blatant promurican propaganda) [04:31]
adlai either way it's good if you like watching Tom Hanks cry [04:31]
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nanasho so, everything as usual today [04:45]
BingoBoingo What do you mean by usual? [04:48]
punkman bowel movements perhaps [04:48]
BingoBoingo << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed. [04:49]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 03:30:37; ben_vulpes: whoa, no bingoboingo?! [04:49]
punkman << for non-multisig transactions? [04:52]
assbot Logged on 14-12-2015 22:36:39; jurov: don't know. electrum produces P2SH transactions, that's how i found out. [04:52]
BingoBoingo punkman: It's looking that way. [04:53]
punkman that can't be right [04:56]
punkman maybe trb doesn't like compressed pubkeys? [04:57]
BingoBoingo [05:05]
assbot Satoshi ... ( ) [05:05]
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adlai !s uncompressed [05:08]
assbot 5 results for 'uncompressed' : [05:08]
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adlai deeding to uncompressed addresses has the featurbugresult of requiring more satoshibytes to spend, for the same notarization cost [05:10]
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deedbot- [Qntra] Withdrawal Fees For Changetip Starting - [06:34]
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adlai not tagged Altcoins? :P [06:36]
BingoBoingo lol, not this time [06:38]
BingoBoingo Don't think changetip is even that anymore [06:39]
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BingoBoingo Holy shit. danielpbarron is now a gurl on twitter. [07:46]
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danielpbarron hah BingoBoingo, that's not my only account. You can share it with me if you want [09:44]
shinohai <<< btcdrak found his safe space [09:54]
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nubbins` i forgot we were doing deeds here [10:06]
* nubbins` pushed a deed to the bc yesterday of his own accord [10:06]
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jurov lmao [10:18]
assbot Silicone Thin Face Anti-aging Massager Thin Wrinkles Chin Care - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( ) [10:18]
jurov or [10:18]
assbot NOBLE 2-Minute Charming Smile Trainer - Free Shipping - DealExtreme ... ( ) [10:18]
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punkman "crapjects" [10:51]
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mircea_popescu << not like i've paid macri to deny visas to usians or anything. [11:27]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 03:32:39; ben_vulpes: grand shame considering the wine and steak cost/quality curve in bsas [11:27]
mircea_popescu << eh by now i can't even give a shit. [11:28]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 04:07:41; asciilifeform: another melted switch ? [11:28]
mircea_popescu anyone wants to read things, read them when they can. trilema's not a consumer good, the consumer's at trilema's convenience. [11:28]
mircea_popescu and if the consumer doesn't like this situation, that's fine : buy a gun shoot your president. [11:28]
mircea_popescu <<< oft repeated by yours truly, tho perhaps not really here. [11:30]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 07:17:41; punkman: for entomologists [11:30]
mircea_popescu was the #1 topic back in romanian-trilema days, due to the readership being primarily interested in it. [11:30]
mircea_popescu all these "successes" would make more money in plain prostitution in 1995 than they do with their "successful" internet bullshits today. but hey, people would much rather "disbelieve" and carry on with their idiocy than stop and reconsider whether "women's issues" and "pop culture" are a decent use of their productive time. [11:33]
mircea_popescu "Platforms like YouTube mirror the U.S. economy’s yawning wealth gap, and being a part of YouTube’s “middle class” often means grappling daily with the cognitive dissonance of a full comments section and an empty wallet. Journalists kvell over stars like Swedish gamer Pewdiepie, whose net worth is around $12 million, or comedian Jenna Marbles, who’s worth around $2.5 million. On the other extreme, fan-funding [11:34]
mircea_popescu sites like Patreon (a Kickstarter-type site that allows for ongoing funding) are at the center of a communal movement to fund “smaller YouTubers.” But that definition gets blurry. Is someone with 50,000 subscribers worth supporting financially? How about 200,000? What if people assume you’re too successful to need money, and you’re too proud to tell them otherwise?" [11:34]
mircea_popescu that's not the question. the question is why is mp worth a billion and kim kardashian worth 10 million. when did death threats > nice ass, by 3 degrees of magnitude ? is this allowed by Obama ? [11:35]
mircea_popescu "Nobody knows all this better than me. I’m 27 years old and have been building an online following for 10 years, beginning with a popular Livejournal I wrote in high school." << and yet the notion doesn't go through his head that maybe [11:35]
assbot Logged on 09-09-2015 02:12:06; assbot: Logged on 30-01-2015 05:51:36; mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums. [11:35]
mircea_popescu and maybe a whole raft of "choices" he "made" by "himself" are the cause of his poverty, through the proxy of his indescribable stupidity. [11:36]
mircea_popescu "The high highs and low lows leave me reeling. One week, I was stopped for photos six times while perusing comic books in downtown L.A. The next week, I sat faceless in a room of 40 people vying for a menial courier job. I’ve walked a red carpet with $80 in my bank account. Popular YouTube musician Meghan Tonjes said she performed on Vidcon’s MainStage this year to screaming, crying fans without knowing whether she [11:37]
mircea_popescu ’d be able to afford groceries." [11:37]
mircea_popescu so much win. [11:37]
mircea_popescu "She likened trying to get famous through social media to shelling out money for college—in each case, one suffers through hard work and zero-to-negative income in the hopes of a later payout. The difference, Beggs said, is that YouTube is more accessible “because there’s no admissions committee.” The technical term for this is the Dunning Kruger effect, where unskilled individuals believe themselves to be more [11:41]
mircea_popescu adept than they are." [11:41]
mircea_popescu heh. and alf blames colleges. looky here alfie : without the college scams, these schmucks would go to youtube to be fleeced. [11:42]
mircea_popescu because cow gotta be milked. otherwise, mastitis. it hurts. [11:42]
mircea_popescu |Online culture has often placed emphasis on both social justice and purity—or at the very least, humility.| >>> bwajhahjajaja [11:42]
mircea_popescu mno, it hasn't. [11:43]
mircea_popescu << you don;'t understand how the future works. [11:44]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 07:47:56; BingoBoingo: << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed. [11:44]
mircea_popescu << is that a portmanteau of "the internet i mean the wwweb" on one hand and "rejects" on the other ? or "projects" on the other ? [11:46]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 07:47:56; BingoBoingo: << Was offline dedicating my pipe to a test. Holy fuckballs does 0.11.2 suck at peer discovery and sig verification speed. [11:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106094 @ 0.00048717 = 51.6858 BTC [+] {3} [11:47]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "|Today social media spamming service Changetip in a bid to generate revenue from users is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee." <<< you mean "In a bid to generate revenue the social media spamming service Changetip is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee today. As people actually involved in Bitcoin might remember, the 1% fee exists as a Schelling point mostly due to BitBet's i [11:52]
mircea_popescu ntroduction a few years ago. The trend where fiat-based Bitcoin parasites follow Bitcoin regulation enshrined by the most serene republic is encouraging as to their prospects. The trend where they fail to mention whom they're copying (and why) is perhaps dangerous to their userbase of poor confused nobodies, who have demonstr [11:52]
mircea_popescu ated time and again that they don't really have the intellectual wherewithal to find their way out of the fiat paper bag. [11:52]
mircea_popescu Always remember, dear fiat craptrepreneurs : sucking republican cock is a good start, but always remember to make eye contact! That's where your submission really sinks in, to everyone (and especially to your) benefit." ? [11:52]
mircea_popescu ;;isup [12:03]
gribble is up [12:03]
mircea_popescu mkay, so there we go. [12:03]
thestringpuller "If every single person withdrew all their coins they would make less than $3500. This isn't a viable business model." [12:11]
jurov s3fe sp3c3 [12:16]
assbot ... ( ) [12:16]
nubbins` if every single person did any given action, stupid shit would happen. [12:17]
nubbins` Life isn't a viable biznis model [12:17]
thestringpuller ;;calc 0.01 * 775 * 430 [12:18]
gribble 3332.5 [12:18]
nubbins` "If the laws of probability completely broke down, this bad thing would happen to ur moniez" [12:18]
nubbins` yeah, that's great, but I'm more concerned with the fact that all of london is trying to visit the zoo at the same time [12:18]
mircea_popescu if every ustard < 40 did a honest day's work, china'd be so fucked. [12:18]
thestringpuller except the US has terrible management these days [12:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67300 @ 0.00048886 = 32.9003 BTC [+] {2} [12:19]
mircea_popescu there is that. [12:20]
thestringpuller blame the shepards not the sheep... [12:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125550 @ 0.00049027 = 61.5534 BTC [+] {2} [12:21]
mircea_popescu no, i'll blame the sheep. [12:25]
thestringpuller more ruthless than suge knight on death row. [12:34]
nubbins` the new and "untouchable" death row records [12:34]
nubbins` i recall watching an interview with him once [12:34]
nubbins` talking about vanilla ice, the rapper [12:34]
thestringpuller "Hangin' out the window it bout to be a suge knight" [12:35]
nubbins` he legitimately said "vanilla ice didn't write his debut album. nigga named chocolate wrote that album." [12:35]
mircea_popescu in other news, the eyes are the windows of the soul. [12:35]
assbot ... ( ) [12:35]
mircea_popescu what's a suge knight [12:35]
nubbins` a type of record executive [12:36]
nubbins` [12:36]
assbot The Eyes are the Anus of the Face | Dick Surgery ... ( ) [12:36]
mircea_popescu ha-ha [12:36]
nubbins` my band ;( [12:36]
nubbins` pretty terrible [12:37]
mircea_popescu why would you be in a terrible band ? [12:37]
nubbins` for the lulz and the free beer, obvs [12:37]
mircea_popescu aok [12:38]
nubbins` plus smacking drums is a great way to unwind [12:38]
thestringpuller ^^^trulyfe [12:39]
mircea_popescu because of the leather amirite [12:42]
nubbins` most heads are synthetic these days [12:43]
nubbins` stool is leather but if you sit on it too long your dick falls asleep [12:44]
mircea_popescu hm [12:45]
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thestringpuller !gettrust phantomcircuit [12:47]
assbot Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -5 via 2 connections. | | [12:47]
thestringpuller funny everytime i see these old derps names in -dev logs always has a negative L2 rating [12:48]
mircea_popescu this because bitcoin is not like open sores. [12:50]
mircea_popescu more like eyesores. [12:50]
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thestringpuller bitcoin does need more eyecandy [12:52]
shinohai "whenever you interact with him god kills a kitten" <<< priceless [12:56]
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jurov ;;ticker --currency eur [13:19]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [13:19]
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davout mircea_popescu: pl0x to x.eur [14:00]
davout jurov: paymium was victim of its own success this afternoon [14:01]
kakobrekla what happened? [14:01]
jurov big delivery requested? [14:01]
davout hah no, large update [14:02]
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pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: i don't take the 'babies sleeping on stomachs' thing one way or another, though the 'sids' angle is covered here : [14:08]
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assbot The case for infanticide. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [14:08]
pete_dushenski << 'autonomous vehicles need experimental ethics : are we ready for utilitarian cars ?' << another one for ben_vulpes, mitch_callahan, et al. [14:11]
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pete_dushenski "Multiculturalism leads to parallel societies and therefore remains a ‘life lie,’ ” or a sham, she said, before adding that Germany may be reaching its limits in terms of accepting more refugees. "The challenge is immense," she said. "We want and we will reduce the number of refugees noticeably." [14:44]
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pete_dushenski ^angela merkel [14:44]
nubbins` parallel societies! [14:46]
punkman lol! [14:46]
nubbins` wtf does that even mean [14:46]
nubbins` some people have ham for dinner? [14:46]
punkman I'm guessing they are starting to build favelas in germany [14:47]
nubbins` "we want everyone to be homogenous, somehow, even though i'm fucking german and that didn't make sense even before this started happening" [14:47]
pete_dushenski heh. bringing in a whackload of non-yurapeans into your country without also forcing them to submit to the rules and regulations of the dominant resident culture is asking to be mowed down. [14:48]
nubbins` hey, in canada you still have to swear fealty to the queen. [14:48]
pete_dushenski that and 5 bucks buys you coffee [14:48]
nubbins` only at charbucks [14:48]
pete_dushenski when's the last time you saw a new immigrant getting thumped on the head for not lifting his pinky while drinking tea ? [14:49]
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nubbins` commisariat house afternoon tea, july 21 2015, st johns nl [14:51]
nubbins` just kidding [14:51]
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assbot ... ( ) [15:10]
ascii_field << it'd be lulzy to go to mircea_popesculand and throw a party and see if he shows up ! [15:10]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 14:25:04; mircea_popescu: << not like i've paid macri to deny visas to usians or anything. [15:10]
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mircea_popescu considering the sad state of ba night life, it'd be a wonder if i didn't. [15:12]
ascii_field << wonder if mircea_popescu is thinking of moving the thing to gossipnet when the latter is up [15:12]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 14:26:20; mircea_popescu: anyone wants to read things, read them when they can. trilema's not a consumer good, the consumer's at trilema's convenience. [15:12]
mircea_popescu yes. [15:12]
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ascii_field << she. the linked piece was, iirc, written by gurl [15:13]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 14:34:01; mircea_popescu: and maybe a whole raft of "choices" he "made" by "himself" are the cause of his poverty, through the proxy of his indescribable stupidity. [15:13]
ascii_field << actually having dedicated barns for the cows, with proper milking hardware, is the Right Thing [15:14]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 14:40:13; mircea_popescu: heh. and alf blames colleges. looky here alfie : without the college scams, these schmucks would go to youtube to be fleeced. [15:14]
ascii_field whereas having them in morning traffic (ask a fella from india. 'brake inspector!1111') is not. [15:15]
ascii_field << i thought it was a wallet-dust/'coin taint track' usgtron [15:15]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 14:50:52; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "|Today social media spamming service Changetip in a bid to generate revenue from users is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee." <<< you mean "In a bid to generate revenue the social media spamming service Changetip is set to begin charging a one percent withdrawal fee today. As people actually involved in Bitcoin might remember, the 1% fee exists as a Schel [15:15]
nubbins` you mean "in a bid to generate revenue, the social..." [15:16]
mircea_popescu so i do. [15:17]
nubbins` changetip, lel [15:18]
nubbins` someone tried tipping me ten cents on reddit once for a comment they deemed insightful [15:18]
nubbins` imagine interacting with other human beings and one of them hands you a dime when you say something [15:18]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo no le gusta los commas [15:19]
ascii_field nubbins`: a dime with a rope glued on [15:19]
nubbins` now this social impossibility can be achieved electronically, through the wonders of the internet [15:19]
nubbins` ascii_field a hollow dime with a ?? inside [15:19]
ascii_field well... more like a dime with radio beacon glued on [15:19]
ascii_field but anyway [15:19]
nubbins` splitting hairs here [15:20]
nubbins` i gotta go to fedex [15:20]
nubbins` incidentally a jan 3 2009 copy of the times sells for 10btc [15:20]
nubbins` or whatever [15:20]
ascii_field ;;later tell trinque << lulzy, reminds me of something you once described [15:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [15:21]
assbot An introduction to Kerf | Locklin on science ... ( ) [15:22]
ascii_field << lulzy [15:25]
assbot International Cryptography Freedom ... ( ) [15:25]
ascii_field meanwhile, on other side of atlantic, [15:27]
assbot "Snowden-Dokumente sind noch immer toxisch" - ... ( ) [15:27]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field they have a point. as far as the slave^H^H^H^H^H german is concerned, reminders of the cock up his ass are unwelcome and "toxic" to his emotional well being or w/e [15:29]
mircea_popescu iirc that ugly fat woman whatever her name is that rules his germans still hasn't obtained the slightest satisfaction for being gangraped by the ustards. [15:30]
ascii_field speaking of mass rape, [15:30]
ascii_field 'We give special attention to whether an AV should save lives by sacrificing its owner, and provide insights into (i) the perceived morality of this self-sacrifice, (ii)the willingness to see this self-sacrifice being legally enforced, (iii) the expectations that AVs will be programmed to self-sacrifice, and (iv) the willingness to buy self-sacrificing AVs.' [15:30]
mircea_popescu but hey, maybe one day germany improves enough to be russia. [15:30]
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ascii_field it is no surprise of any kind that usg is obsessed with 'automatic car'. [15:33]
nubbins` just think of all the extra shit you could buy/eat while travelling [15:33]
nubbins` struck a ped? better blame the mfg/gov [15:34]
ascii_field not to mention the wonderful detours [15:34]
nubbins` win/win scenario [15:34]
mircea_popescu all this wankery. "oh, should it self-sacrifice ???" [15:34]
ascii_field (everybody gets to go through the mw radar arch. and if you're flagged, your car will go straight to the crematorium) [15:34]
mircea_popescu let's discuss things of import! to be prepared in case a windfaul reaches us, with a game-plan! to save africa! [15:34]
nubbins` for whom the booth tolls! [15:35]
ascii_field not to mention the low-tech beauty of 'self-driving car accident' as a means of removing troublesome folk [15:35]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field the problem with this is that nobody in the Housbroken universe actually owns a car. [15:36]
ascii_field wawat [15:36]
mircea_popescu seen that film btw ? pretty great indictment of ustardian/white youth [15:36]
pete_dushenski ascii_field: owns as in outright, no outstanding loan. [15:36]
ascii_field EVERYBODY in usaschwitz (with very few exceptions) spends a good chunk of the day in a car [15:36]
nubbins` "wild tales" seemed a great indictment of modern argentina, mp might like it [15:37]
ascii_field how the car is gotten - is another matter [15:37]
pete_dushenski oddly, only the poorest 'own' car. ($500 beater) [15:37]
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nubbins` ^ [15:37]
mircea_popescu coupla 20something kids that anyone simply wants to see raped to death. they're the couch surfing, biking, "creative" minds of the tomorrow / "economies of scale of being youtube famous meaning not famous" [15:37]
nubbins` general idea is to "buy" new car before old car is actually owned by you [15:37]
ascii_field that marvel of precision engineering, the car that promptly falls apart after the last credit payment, is a fairly recent invention [15:37]
ascii_field but sop for something like a decade now, yes [15:38]
nubbins` mp you know the 20somethings are the antiheroes in that movie yes? [15:38]
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nubbins` i.e. the target audience is rooting for them and against mean old dad? [15:39]
nubbins` !up ascii_field [15:39]
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nubbins` because why we gotta get a job man this sux [15:39]
mircea_popescu nubbins` that's exactly my point. none of those schmucks has a car. [15:39]
nubbins` well it's also a danny devito movie [15:39]
mircea_popescu more importantly, none of those schmucks is the intellectual equal of "car ownership" [15:39]
mircea_popescu forget owning their own women. [15:39]
nubbins` which is literally the button right next to "big mac, upsize fries" on the big machine [15:40]
mircea_popescu actually playing out a penitentiary inmate irl is a bar they have to prepare for. [15:40]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: most u.s. folks have (in some sense which involves driving it) a car. of some description. [15:40]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: waitwut THAT'S the hierarchy ? easier to own woman than car ? [15:40]
mircea_popescu ascii_field you don't fuck teens alf. you have nfi what your country's like. [15:40]
nubbins` heh [15:40]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski mno ? [15:40]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: fair enough [15:40]
* pete_dushenski re-reads. [15:40]
pete_dushenski got it. [15:41]
ascii_field but where i live, i see even street beggars get into at least a toyota at the end of a long hard day shaking a cup of coins [15:41]
mircea_popescu but none of these beggars are 22. [15:41]
nubbins` street begging earns ok money [15:41]
mircea_popescu the 22 yo beggars are "working hard" at "their social media presence" and don't have access to a car. [15:41]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: aha. these tend to be old grizzled folk [15:41]
mircea_popescu and so they're going to the crematorium anyway. [15:42]
deedbot- [Trilema] Procedural Dungeon Generation for Eulora - [15:42]
ascii_field the 'social media' maggots tend to gravitate to conurbations with good train service, etc [15:42]
mircea_popescu just about the magical car you discuss may be at the earlierst delivered [15:42]
mircea_popescu they simply tend to gravitate to places where their dismal means to life are sufficient to survive. "oh i couldn't live in kentucky" [15:42]
mircea_popescu indeed you couldn't. baby turtles would eat you. [15:42]
ascii_field kentucky is not a magical enclave of the economically +ev [15:43]
ascii_field (afaik we don't have any such) [15:43]
nubbins` in fairness, taping up a couple photocopies around the city isn't a great way to recruit specific talent [15:43]
mircea_popescu no, but it is a magical enclave where you gotta be able to find your way out of a paper bag [15:43]
mircea_popescu nubbins` a) couple HUNDRED ; b) if i taped up not a couple, a single "jeans and chewing gum" ad in soviet blok, i'd have needed the canadian mounties to keep order. [15:44]
mircea_popescu that this shithole doesn't admit it's one step away from poland 1985 doesn't mean it isn't actually one step away from poland 1985 [15:44]
ascii_field but afaik it has an ordinary cross-section of ameri-bezzle. i.e. you can just as easily warm a chair at lockheed in kentucky as in dc. [15:44]
mircea_popescu ascii_field none of these dudes get warm chairs of any kind. [15:44]
mircea_popescu they're the leah goodmans of this world. the people you think are what they wish they were, while meanwhile they starve while thinking somehow they're too good for my ten bitcents. [15:45]
ascii_field ah - them [15:45]
* ascii_field doesn't spend much time around the certified economically-dead folk [15:45]
mircea_popescu yes, them. most everyone that's white and under 30. them. [15:45]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: well specific modelling talent is hard to recruit since it's in high demand. [15:47]
thestringpuller particularly in this field. [15:47]
mircea_popescu not here. [15:47]
mircea_popescu argentina is about as economically dead as you'd expect of a soy & other cash crops exporter. [15:47]
nubbins` wtf does argentina have to do with it? [15:47]
nubbins` you're on the internet, not on the argentina [15:48]
mircea_popescu nubbins` the ads were in argentina doh. [15:48]
mircea_popescu ... [15:48]
nubbins` well yes [15:48]
nubbins` that's the problem [15:48]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: might ar be a candidate to become 'an india' - in the sense of coolie labour on warm chairs with keyboard ..? [15:48]
nubbins` i know two argentinian artists. know where they live? [15:48]
mircea_popescu so wait, let me get this straight. when i want ascii to move here he can't because HE needs meatwot. [15:48]
nubbins` not argentina [15:48]
thestringpuller But it's not really an economics problem. Game artists are borderline cultists...a game artist will work for free for say Nintendo just cause it's nintendo... [15:48]
mircea_popescu when i want to hire the useless shitsacks perambulating in buenos aires, they don't need me. becuase... internet. [15:48]
mircea_popescu let's play this game where I use the argument both ways and nobody uses the counter-argument both ways against me [15:48]
mircea_popescu because I am the capitalist. [15:49]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: laugh all you like, but i went & found a new gig the 'mainstream' way, sans meatwot [15:49]
nubbins` you want to hire useless shitsacks? [15:49]
mircea_popescu so ; ascii moves because internet ; argentine shitsacks are stuck because meatwot. [15:49]
mircea_popescu not vice-fucking-versa. [15:49]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i did advertise to argentines, right ? [15:49]
ascii_field (but new gig is still a bezzlatronic thing that doesn't exist in ar) [15:49]
nubbins` not really, you taped a bunch of flyers to outdoor walls. [15:49]
mircea_popescu ... [15:50]
mircea_popescu you ever been here ? [15:50]
nubbins` close [15:50]
nubbins` but not [15:50]
mircea_popescu yeah well, then on what basis to you propose to put forth subtlety-based arguments such as that ? [15:50]
mircea_popescu for all you know the two are identical. in point of fact they are identical. [15:50]
nubbins` on the basis that nobody anywhere in the world advertises for a position more involved than daycare in this manner [15:51]
ascii_field also iirc mircea_popescu didn't hire people ? [15:51]
nubbins` and while i've not lived many places, i've visited plenty [15:51]
nubbins` talented people don't bother reading wheatpasted "help wanted" ads [15:51]
thestringpuller I think mircea_popescu underestimates the amount of effort that goes into tayloring game art skills. [15:51]
nubbins` that's how the penniless search for help [15:52]
mircea_popescu ascii_field thestringpuller allow me to drag in the stalin and other people's fat thing. [15:52]
nubbins` the simple fact that you advertised in that manner means nobody qualified is gonna bother reading to the contact info [15:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` again, how the fuck would ytou know ? [15:52]
nubbins` because i'm a self-aware adult who lives in the world? [15:52]
mircea_popescu don't tell me YOU're the one that's fucking argentine art school majors ? [15:53]
mircea_popescu no, you aren't. [15:53]
nubbins` but hey, it's not like you need my advice. you seem to have a good handle on advertising for all your ventures O.O [15:53]
mircea_popescu the bar for "self-aware adult who lives in the world" is so fuycking high i don't think i'm necessarily there. [15:53]
nubbins` MP punching a loaf of bread with a quarter ham: "these idiot ingredients don't make a good sandwich" [15:53]
mircea_popescu you're an above-average canadina living in canada. readily granted, but the world is not canada. [15:54]
ascii_field << oblig [15:54]
assbot xkcd: Canada ... ( ) [15:54]
nubbins` in fairness i've only been to maybe a dozen countries [15:54]
mircea_popescu in fairness. [15:54]
nubbins` but nowhere approaches talent recruitment with this level of retardation [15:54]
mircea_popescu "been to" is when you live there, with local women. [15:54]
mircea_popescu tourist bs dun count for shit. [15:55]
nubbins` but again, keep trying yr current approach [15:55]
nubbins` it'll eventually work [15:55]
nubbins` and if not, it's 100% because of everyone else [15:55]
mircea_popescu heh. [15:55]
nubbins` not because taping a flyer to a wall is the shittest way of doing what you're trying to do [15:55]
nubbins` :D [15:55]
mircea_popescu looky, you don't get to misrepresent what you hear on the basis of how stupid the parts of it that you understood seemed to you. [15:55]
nubbins` you know mp is running out of patience when he gets to "looky" and "you don't get" [15:56]
ascii_field can we do stalin and fat before mircea_popescu forgets why ? [15:56]
nubbins` you don't get to pretend taping shit to a wall makes sense. [15:56]
nubbins` "the people will notice it's not the turd it seems" [15:56]
nubbins` uh huh [15:56]
mircea_popescu taping shit to a wall has a longer history than canada. [15:56]
nubbins` that's the qualifier now? [15:57]
mircea_popescu not that that particular stupidity is too well related to the other stupidities. [15:57]
mircea_popescu ascii_field sure. what about it ? [15:57]
nubbins` usa has a longer history than canada, see where that's got em [15:57]
mircea_popescu nubbins` this is where you notice that you said something dumb and realise that maybe the other things you said come from the same place. [15:57]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: << maybe i'm thick, but not sure how it plugs in [15:58]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 18:50:16; mircea_popescu: ascii_field thestringpuller allow me to drag in the stalin and other people's fat thing. [15:58]
nubbins` hey, that's the next best thing to actually claiming that yr approach to recruitment makes sense [15:58]
nubbins` remember when leah goodman chose dorian nakamoto because he was the only satoshi within driving distance? [15:59]
mircea_popescu there exist people in this world who are economically worthless because they are argentines. giving them an opportunity to starve so as to work for me, a guy that isn't economically worthless for being argentine, is a -ev play for most and a +ev play for some. [15:59]
mircea_popescu exactly the stalin approach. [15:59]
ascii_field nubbins`: where i live, posters on telephone poles are pretty much exclusively for classical scams (ponzi, 'sell house quick', 'work to save the earth!111', etc) [15:59]
nubbins` remember when you put up a bunch of flyers in b.a because it was the only city within driving distance? [15:59]
mircea_popescu "ethereum" [15:59]
nubbins` ascii_field mp doesn't realize this [15:59]
ascii_field items which even the fishwrap would not print [15:59]
mircea_popescu nubbins` ba is a city with more population than the whole country you live in omfg. [15:59]
nubbins` despite being worldly [15:59]
ascii_field but i do not think this is true in ba [16:00]
nubbins` mircea_popescu so..? [16:00]
mircea_popescu ascii_field whart do you mean not true in ba! all places are the same places! all peopel are really the same as nubbins! [16:00]
mircea_popescu EVERYTHING IS THE SAME! [16:00]
nubbins` i lived in seoul, 21mn people in metro area. know who's advertising on the poles? [16:00]
* ascii_field saw a great many things on placards in ba [16:00]
mircea_popescu sure makes thinking one "self aware of the world" a shithell of a heck easier. [16:00]
nubbins` strip clubs and diet pills [16:00]
mircea_popescu nubbins` seoul is a motherfucking rich place omfg. [16:01]
nubbins` lule [16:01]
ascii_field nubbins`: in ba, at least as far as my naked eye could see, it was mostly whores. [16:01]
nubbins` is it? [16:01]
ascii_field but (afaik) perfectly honest ones [16:01]
mircea_popescu i don't think you actually understand how poor these people are. [16:01]
nubbins` i don't think you actually understand how many people in seoul make a living picking grubs out of trees, boiling them, and selling them in little paper cups w/ a toothpick [16:02]
BingoBoingo << Mega lol, also article updated [16:02]
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mircea_popescu why the fuck does that make a difference ? "because all people are people" ? [16:02]
nubbins` it's a rich place like nyc is a rich place [16:02]
nubbins` you're struggling to string a point together here [16:02]
mircea_popescu the argument here isn't that some unrelated people are poor. the argument here is that the very fucking people in question don't have fifty pesos. [16:02]
nubbins` what are you saying, the talent exists in b.a? [16:02]
ascii_field 'The Bitcoin community had a huge opportunity to help shape ChangeTip into something beautiful to use to help bitcoin adoption forward, and largely has allowed negativity to consume this possibility.' << l0ltr0nic [16:02]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i am saying that if i rouded up all the 10k or so computer art majors in town and gave them the choice of paying me 100k in cash or dying in a fire [16:03]
mircea_popescu they couldn't get the 100k together. [16:03]
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nubbins` and i am saying that you've gone the polar opposite of "rounding up all the 10k". [16:03]
mircea_popescu ... [16:03]
nubbins` you've rounded up all the 0. [16:04]
mircea_popescu and you know this because you feel things. [16:04]
nubbins` i know this because nobody bothered reading your ads [16:04]
thestringpuller don't think poor people are best adapted for working in 3DS Max/Maya given the time investment, plus the cost of the software. [16:04]
mircea_popescu "no, i know this because i can fit explanations ex post facto as well as alf used to can" [16:04]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i don't want to work with people who pay "for software" in this sense anyway. [16:04]
ascii_field thestringpuller: 'cost of the software' ?!!!! ya trying to make me die of laugh ? [16:04]
nubbins` dat invention of hypotheticals as a retort [16:04]
nubbins` posting flyers in b.a is about as sensible as posting a wanted at on derpstalk forum [16:05]
mircea_popescu and you know this because... [16:05]
nubbins` for reasons which i cannot begin to fathom, you seem to not equate these two things [16:05]
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thestringpuller oops meant cost of hardware to run said software* [16:05]
nubbins` mp you know the opposite because, what? some random chick tells you "yeah this is how people find work here" [16:06]
nubbins` thumbsup.svg [16:06]
mircea_popescu this is besides the point. i am not held to justify what i do to you. [16:06]
nubbins` no indeed, you're not. [16:06]
mircea_popescu you wish to judge what i do, you'd god damned better have some footing to stand on. [16:06]
* ascii_field digs in logz in mostly-futile search of what this whole thing was about [16:06]
ascii_field mircea_popescu was trying to hire a level designer ? [16:07]
nubbins` although since you've spent what, 20 minutes defending this foolishness [16:07]
nubbins` it seems you do feel some urge to justify what you've done [16:07]
nubbins` if for no other reason than to pull some strips of cloth over the naked lameness of it [16:07]
nubbins` ;/ [16:07]
mircea_popescu mno. i just answer to random idiots derping on in here, because of a naive and perhaps misplaced notion that they'll learn something from the experience. [16:08]
* ascii_field may have learned something [16:08]
nubbins` well, the saying goes: "naive in one area means naive in no others" [16:08]
nubbins` you're prob right about the flyers thing [16:08]
mircea_popescu but i appreciate the "well since mom and dad filled the fridge clearly they have a responsibility to explai nto me why i should get a job". [16:08]
mircea_popescu it's so wordly and self-aware it enarly burns. [16:09]
nubbins` i think your analogy generator needs a tune-up [16:09]
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BingoBoingo ascii_field: Came from email addy [16:10]
nubbins` maybe when mp moves to ulaan baatar, he can write " help wanted" on the side of a camel and run it through town [16:11]
jurov hahaha i for one did the effort of pulling game dev/artist to #eulora. he was very weirded out of whole situation and bailed out of the job, i had to compile stuff myself. i can't at all imagine him reacting to some pole-stuck pulp [16:11]
jurov btw,he was indeed living in some hole near ukr border [16:11]
mircea_popescu he was very weirded out of whole situation and bailed out of the job << can we has detail ? [16:12]
nubbins` i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling & textures for the Ender's Game movie [16:13]
jurov i did not get any further explanation [16:13]
jurov other than "busy" [16:13]
asciilifeform somebody +v ascii_field por favor, he can't reach the button [16:14]
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ascii_field ty [16:14]
* ascii_field finally noticed that trilema is back and that subj is a recent post, l0l [16:15]
nubbins` :D [16:15]
nubbins` feel free to re-read log [16:15]
nubbins` offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare [16:16]
jurov anyway. since bsas is million metropol, there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate [16:16]
* ascii_field cannot answer this, but will say that he did not observe any 'help wanteds' for pr0gramm3rz in ba placards [16:16]
ascii_field perhaps they have a trade publication where work is offered [16:17]
jurov so i'd make a presentation at such place [16:17]
ascii_field but i'll be the first to say that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a! [16:17]
ascii_field or i'd be there now, forfucksake [16:17]
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jurov meeting them in flesh should overcome their problems with unusuallness or whatevs [16:17]
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adlai the whole subreddit infighting is almost too bizarre [16:20]
kakobrekla lol 'this assrape is terrible!!' 'stfu you arent engaging positively!!' [16:20]
ascii_field adlai: next do we get to learn about the infighting of rats in the new york sewer ? [16:20]
ascii_field betcha there are first-class stories to be told. [16:20]
ascii_field if only rats could speak. [16:20]
shinohai <<< bitcoin phoundation lolz [16:20]
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ascii_field shinohai: afaik the old corpse is just that - mit is the new phoundation [16:21]
adlai lol, you have one try to guess where this leads... [16:22]
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thestringpuller We all laugh at MIT until they create synths after the great war. [16:22]
mircea_popescu i've got a friend who did some 3d modelling & textures for the Ender's Game movie << and the eulora splashscreen was done by jason juta (ie, the guy that did half the wizards of the coast franchise). and yes, i could employ him (at his very reasonable rates) to do the whole thing. [16:22]
mircea_popescu i won't. because i'm not spending money that way, and i don't give a shit what the needs of whatever art derp are. [16:22]
mircea_popescu he can starve to serve me and then i might consider him. before that he can get fucked. [16:23]
mircea_popescu i need him like i need more hair. he needs me like he needs more food. [16:23]
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* ascii_field sometimes wonders if mircea_popescu does the 'nail in a coffin and float'em down the river as test of faith' thing also [16:23]
mircea_popescu and none of this is going to be changed by discussing around the bush. [16:23]
mircea_popescu ascii_field no, mircea_popescu simply does not give a shit. [16:25]
ascii_field well inspired by the 'starve to serve me' thing [16:25]
ascii_field but yeah, this whole thing is kinda replay of the old 'soviet vs roman army' thread, aha [16:26]
mircea_popescu other than "busy" << mmmkay. [16:26]
jurov actually now i remember he did not like any responsibility, like, gpg signing the releases [16:27]
mircea_popescu offer comments on why flyers are retarded if you dare << besides the fucking point, really. i don't think they're not retarded. nevertheless, to the people who fail to take advantage of this, that failure is just another added failure. [16:27]
mircea_popescu i understand "we"'d "all" love to be excused from the failures list, but that's not how it works. [16:28]
* ascii_field also recalls the rental agency with btc private keys on placards thread [16:28]
mircea_popescu jurov> anyway. since bsas is million metropol, there surely are some "coworking" places where exactly such art derps usually concetrate <<< yes but apparently they go in there thought the window not the door ; cant read in any case and anyway - too busy doing nothing to do soemthing useful [16:28]
mircea_popescu particularly because how dares this asshole to discern between useful and useless in the vast world full of possibilities which shouldn't be discriminated against or someshit. [16:28]
mircea_popescu perhaps they have a trade publication where work is offered <<< you're thinking europe. think kirgizstan. [16:29]
* ascii_field thinks kirgizstan [16:29]
mircea_popescu but i'll be the first to say that i have certifiably nfi how programmerz find work in b-a! << you mean webwork. what else ? [16:29]
ascii_field and mircea_popescu still wonders how come i haven't moved ? [16:29]
mircea_popescu meeting them in flesh should overcome their problems with unusuallness or whatevs << not from experience. meeting idiots in the flesh doesn't make them less idiotic, just puts them in a better position to waste your time. [16:30]
ascii_field ^^ [16:30]
jurov well. so you want artist that is both not an idiot and reads pole pulp [16:31]
jurov gl [16:31]
mircea_popescu ascii_field again : i expect that all arguments work both sides for me and for me only. you, you don't need meatwot can go wherever. the argentine derp, can not use internet, may not leave country. [16:31]
mircea_popescu not the other way around. [16:31]
mircea_popescu jurov i don't want anything. [16:31]
mircea_popescu this isn't about me selling. this is about me buying. [16:31]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: possibly the hidden gotcha is that internet hasn't been invented yet on my planet. (i.e. folks offering the sort of work that i do, demand at least occasional physical chair parade) [16:33]
mircea_popescu possibly. [16:33]
ascii_field i could speculate re: ~why~ (short version: it's what usa has instead of a berlin wall - otherwise mass exodus of programmers etc. to cheapo banana republics) [16:34]
mircea_popescu maybe. [16:35]
ascii_field (another tricky bit is that one of the things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and this is difficult to monitor without on-site chair) [16:36]
mircea_popescu quite. [16:36]
mircea_popescu this is probably a major factor, really. [16:36]
* ascii_field has been pondering subj for many years [16:36]
ascii_field but the most basic thing, afaik, is simple capital control [16:37]
mircea_popescu shinohai: afaik the old corpse is just that - mit is the new phoundation <<< seems that way. [16:38]
ascii_field (omfg they might take their bezzle dollars and bid up the cost of turkeys in shitholistan where we need'em cheap) [16:38]
ascii_field the cheapness of turkeys/whores/petro/etc in shitholistans is a ~natural resource~, like any other thermodynamic gradient. and you don't get to ride the gradient just by asking, just like a random schmuck doesn't get to ride soviet plutonium just for asking. [16:40]
mircea_popescu anyway, to the more general point here : i'm the only entity that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like this", because the point isn't for me to get something done, the point is for me to change the way things are done in the first place. [16:40]
mircea_popescu ascii_field quite. [16:40]
ascii_field which is why i say 'mircea_popescu wake me up plz when you've transmuted the x to a y' [16:40]
mircea_popescu which is why you gotta move. always go against the gradients/. [16:41]
mircea_popescu ascii_field by the time that's done, my dear alf, everyone who's still asleep ain't never waking up again. [16:41]
mircea_popescu that much you can take to the wallet. [16:41]
ascii_field well i'd happily move if i were 1337 enough to take the gradient, rather than BE the fuel [16:41]
mircea_popescu aha. [16:41]
mircea_popescu that part makes sense. [16:41]
mircea_popescu it's also annoying. [16:42]
ascii_field see also [16:42]
assbot Logged on 14-11-2015 06:06:39; asciilifeform: << i would happily move to the ar where mircea_popescu lives, but i will happily be shot in the head three times before i move to the ar where the argentines live. [16:42]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field the difference between "not work for competition" and "capital control" is inexistent - the us is a centrally controlled economy just like the su. and so, the soviets couldn't leave because "the state invested in their education", right ? [16:44]
ascii_field aha precisely same mechanism [16:44]
ascii_field 'yer meat and you stay in this here fence' [16:44]
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mircea_popescu well, in order for the system to collapse it must be made to bleed. [16:45]
mircea_popescu in order for it to bleed ions need to go against gradient. [16:45]
mircea_popescu that's all. [16:45]
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ascii_field << for my education: what would such 'bleeding' look like ? [16:49]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 19:43:10; mircea_popescu: well, in order for the system to collapse it must be made to bleed. [16:49]
ascii_field (or, in other words, what precisely is it that said system could not afford to lose ?) [16:50]
mircea_popescu every time i talk to one of my chinese bankers here, moving some dollar bits against peso bits, both the argentine government and the us government bleed a little. [16:50]
mircea_popescu every time you leave the us, and continue to extract dollars from the us which however the usg can't tax, and spend them in kirgiztan, but so the kirgiztan also cant' tax, both bleed a little. [16:50]
mircea_popescu every time you take a 19yo that'd have made someone a great wife and you make her a great whore, the system bleeds a little. [16:51]
ascii_field eh there remain many megatonnes of fat to be trimmed from plebes like asciilifeform , ben_vulpes , et al before the usg ruling caste bleeds [16:51]
mircea_popescu the more you live, the less life's left for them. [16:51]
mircea_popescu so go, live. [16:51]
mircea_popescu the rest doesn't really matter. [16:51]
mircea_popescu everytime some derp is "offended" at who knows what offensiveness yet his offense rings impotent, the system dies a little. [16:52]
ascii_field this looks quite like folks who explained their gold/watches/dollars bootleg ops in moscow as 'help sink the stinking su faster !111' [16:52]
mircea_popescu aha. [16:52]
mircea_popescu exactly what it was. [16:53]
* ascii_field not convinced that the gnats killed the elephant [16:53]
mircea_popescu every shot policeman, every dollar embezzled, witheld from the irs, every subpar item delivered to the usg, everything. [16:53]
mircea_popescu they all add together and then one day, suddenly, the "old way of life" is an impossibility. [16:53]
mircea_popescu and nobody knows which gnats killed the elephant. "it was just meant to be". [16:54]
mircea_popescu historical imperative, as they say. [16:54]
* ascii_field cannot deny that sufficiently many straws will break camel's back. but this might take a while. [16:54]
mircea_popescu for as long as you're part of the solution, it taking a while is no detriment. [16:55]
mircea_popescu this is in fact how you know that you're part of the solution. [16:55]
ascii_field meanwhile, at the l0lfactory, [16:59]
ascii_field 'Which makes me suspicious, and I have no evidence, just an opinion that there seems to be a powerful force behind these guys like btcdrak, petertodd, etc., like perhaps that jdillon guy, who seems to be directing their actions. If you read some old leaks of jdillon chat with ptodd you can see that all/most of the stuff they are now publicly pushing were suggested by him, including the flexicap nonsense which gmax tried [16:59]
ascii_field to suggest in the 2nd [censored] conference.' [16:59]
ascii_field oh, unrelatedly, [17:05]
ascii_field 'A C++ module that generates maps procedurally is required for Eulora. In this first iteration, the idea of a "map" reduces to "a folded corridor 3 x 3 units in square section". Folding means that the corridor may curve however you please (provided it's continuous, contains no volumes smaller than 3x3 units and no inclines over 10%) and run into itself (not necessarily at right angles).' << this is in SWAG !!! [17:05]
ascii_field classical algo [17:05]
mircea_popescu do you mind ? [17:06]
ascii_field actually i was wrong [17:08]
mircea_popescu in other news, is this china or japan ? [17:09]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: it was in my personal collection. [17:11]
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BingoBoingo Cambodia? [17:11]
mircea_popescu pr tjat/ [17:11]
mircea_popescu or that* [17:11]
BingoBoingo Cambodia seems like interesting place to consider relocation. May be a stalinist hell hole, but doesn't seems like that bad of one. [17:12]
mircea_popescu jsut as along as oyu're a guy. [17:13]
ascii_field !s brass pole in bangkok [17:13]
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ascii_field ^ related [17:13]
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funkenstein_ greetings y'all [17:22]
funkenstein_ i thought every time you did anything which valued a fiat token, no matter what, it benefitted the counterfeitters thereof [17:23]
jurov incl. wiping the ass? [17:25]
BingoBoingo ^ [17:28]
nubbins` that's a nice way of putting it [17:30]
nubbins` <+ascii_field> (another tricky bit is that one of the things employers pay folks for is ~not working for competitor~ and this is difficult to monitor without on-site chair) << not many other worker bees i came across in the trenches realized this, to their detriment [17:35]
nubbins` << oh, i get it. so you're trying to bring job recruitment into the photocopy-taped-to-wall era [17:40]
assbot Logged on 15-12-2015 19:38:05; mircea_popescu: anyway, to the more general point here : i'm the only entity that can't be held hostage. "oh, we won't do X until you Y" works when I say it at others, not when others try it on me. you can't say "hey mp, you gotta do it like this", because the point isn't for me to get something done, the point is for me to change the way things are done in the first place. [17:41]
nubbins` when you put it like that, it makes more sense [17:41]
mircea_popescu nubbins` wouldja stop trying to salvage the "i'm derpy from derpland and i know of things i've never seen because totallies" ? it's dead. [17:41]
nubbins` be sure to tape all 4 sides so they're harder to rip down [17:41]
mircea_popescu some other interesting datapoints : back in the 90s, cluj, a 400k ish inhabitant city, had three dedicated ad papers, printed weekly. together ~200 pages, for a yearly thoroughput in the 1mn ads range. so like 2.5 per capita. [17:42]
mircea_popescu buenos aires, a thing worth 30x that many inhabitants, has no dedicated ad paper, and never detectably had. the thoroughput is negligible, as in not even 0.001 per capita. [17:42]
mircea_popescu they also don't exist on craigslist or backpage. [17:43]
mircea_popescu and in general... the point here is that argentines are retarded, in a very palpable, amply demonstrable sense. [17:43]
mircea_popescu not that nubbins is in the poster printing business and in the self-loathing mental space, so he thinks posters are a bad idea. [17:43]
nubbins` posters are a great idea for me, not so much for others [17:44]
mircea_popescu right right. [17:44]
mircea_popescu "real" posters. [17:44]
mircea_popescu dja know enough about psychology to see what this all is or notrly ? [17:44]
nubbins` well i don't print fake ones so yeah! [17:44]
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assbot The US government is training kids to be fat | fatpeoplehate ... ( ) [17:44]
nubbins` you'd have had better luck giving the eulora flyers to 20yearohio and the bitcoin posters pasted up in b.a [17:45]
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BingoBoingo Ok, now I've stumbled into peak reddit [17:48]
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mircea_popescu "Later loss of virginity associated with significantly lower relationship dissatisfaction later on in life, higher educational attainment, and higher household income, but also lower likelihood of marriage and number of romantic relationships" [17:50]
mircea_popescu sounds like they got the right idea. [17:50]
mircea_popescu "Does anyone get positive feedback on their looks on the Internet but not irl?" heh. [17:51]
mircea_popescu "I am a downer most of the time, I'm not outgoing, not funny, not talkative. The only thing I have is my average intelligence. Being depressed makes you not want to do anything. The medication I'm taking doesn't even make me feel better sometimes. I hate that when you're unattractive or below average you have to wield so many positive traits just to get someone to like you. Attractive people get to be mediocre." [17:51]
mircea_popescu bwahgahaha! [17:51]
mircea_popescu oh... i know... she should have the vote! [17:52]
BingoBoingo "Last time I went I saw a few beautiful girls (something I'd never see close to at home) and it made me so extremely depressed that it ruined the whole trip (I went with family). It legitimately makes me depressed when I see super pretty girls like that; I just feel like a completely inferior subhuman. I'm ok with regular hot girls for some reason. I even had some hot friends in school. It's different when the girl is ethereally b [17:52]
BingoBoingo eautiful. Some of them literally look photoshopped in person." [17:52]
mircea_popescu why does she think feeling like a completely inferior subhuman is bad ? [17:52]
mircea_popescu "I'm FA everywhere. When I lived in a big, glamorous city, I was too ugly and fat for anyone to even consider dating. Now that I'm in a smaller place, with lots of fat and/or unattractive people, I'm more highly educated than the vast majority of men, so I'm still FA." [17:53]
mircea_popescu lol. [17:53]
mircea_popescu she's too classy, and besides : these men don't even watch cheers! [17:53]
BingoBoingo lol [17:54]
BingoBoingo sanity "I have a kind of morbid curiosity. I subscribe to rateme, amisexy, uglyduckling, MUA, prettygirls, and so many more just to see how attractive some girls are and how they're treated by men. Seeing their perfect faces weirdly makes me feel more at peace with the world- like I know my place." [17:55]
mircea_popescu wonder how many of the people there are kids having fun. [17:55]
BingoBoingo hard to say [17:55]
BingoBoingo [17:55]
assbot Being a trans lesbian/pansbian who is pre-transition and in the closet sucks. : LGBTForeverAlone ... ( ) [17:55]
mircea_popescu whatsd a panspian ? she fucks ducks ? [17:55]
mircea_popescu or just goats ? [17:55]
mircea_popescu or is pan there from pan trogolodytes ? she fucks chimps ? [17:56]
BingoBoingo Prolly groats [17:56]
mircea_popescu now i gotta make an okcupid acct, see what the fatties are like. [17:57]
BingoBoingo lol [17:58]
BingoBoingo Gotta pick a location. [17:58]
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thestringpuller ascii_field: wrote his own implementation of a* ? [18:15]
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shinohai <<< hue [18:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105100 @ 0.00048441 = 50.9115 BTC [+] {3} [18:48]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [18:56]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 461.98, vol: 18883.48825688 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 456.932, vol: 13401.76953 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 464.99, vol: 38231.64640448 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 440.0, vol: 5.11919016 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 474.347448, vol: 108031.41440000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 454.0, vol: 94.42190499 | Volume-weighted last average: 469.719426707 [18:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44350 @ 0.0004791 = 21.2481 BTC [-] [19:24]
deedbot- [Qntra] Corpse of Vessenes' Fundnation Expels Janssens From Board - [19:30]
BingoBoingo ;;google mike hearn workout [19:31]
gribble Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding 12-Week Training Program: ; Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding: The 12-Week Program: ; Mike O'Hearn's Power Bodybuilding : Chest - YouTube: (1 more message) [19:31]
BingoBoingo ^ Courtesy adventures in Google autocomplete [19:31]
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mircea_popescu so this okcupid thing has a thing where you answer premade questions (apparently there was a feature to add questions but they scuttled it silently, over time). leaving aside the questions are almost universally fucking dumb, [19:41]
mircea_popescu it's lead me to discover that i really don't give a shit. you gotta specify what "answers you'll accept" and 90% i'm like... whatever. [19:41]
mircea_popescu who the fuck cares what people think already. [19:41]
mircea_popescu then the site bitches about how getting whatever as an answer doesn't help it select matches. what the fuck am i to do ?! care ?! [19:42]
BingoBoingo The site bitches about everything. It's an IAC property. It's what they do. [19:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52550 @ 0.0004854 = 25.5078 BTC [+] {3} [19:44]
BingoBoingo MPtivation [19:46]
assbot Passive Aggressive Lying Buttersack - Album on Imgur ... ( ) [19:46]
BingoBoingo [19:47]
assbot ... ( ) [19:47]
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BingoBoingo [19:58]
assbot Young white men are the most derided group in Britain, study finds - Telegraph ... ( ) [19:58]
BingoBoingo "They also have the joint worst score, with young black Caribbean men, for a belief that they are prone to drug-taking." [19:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57458 @ 0.00047853 = 27.4954 BTC [-] {2} [20:21]
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mircea_popescu !up justanotheruser [20:35]
-assbot- You voiced justanotheruser for 30 minutes. [20:35]
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BingoBoingo [20:42]
assbot ... ( ) [20:42]
BingoBoingo Oh look, all the old people working on piggyback altcoins want forks nao [20:44]
mircea_popescu heh. [20:45]
mircea_popescu the irony being that bitcoin going to shit wouldn't resolve all the numerous problems all the shitcoins have [20:45]
mircea_popescu it WOULD however resolve the only problem the shitheads involved ~perceive~ [20:45]
mircea_popescu so very ustardian, their approach. [20:45]
BingoBoingo Pissstream, nao rootstock, where do these fuckers end [20:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124689 @ 0.00047851 = 59.6649 BTC [-] {4} [21:03]
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BingoBoingo [22:12]
assbot Sergio Lerner: "1) I'm finalizing a BIP: A new Efficient Compact SPV Proof scheme. A chain of 2016 hdrs can be compressed into 10 hdrs, proving 50% of work. / 2) This will be key piece for 2-way-peg system we (Rootstock) contribute to Bitcoin, via hard-fork. / 3) Yes, can also be soft-fork." : Bitco ... ( ) [22:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72850 @ 0.00048184 = 35.102 BTC [+] {2} [22:13]
adlai << [22:20]
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mircea_popescu i suppose every nigger gotta add his own hardfork out there now, it's the new hip thing. you ain't nobody if you ain't hardforkin'! [22:21]
mircea_popescu fucking monkeys. [22:21]
mircea_popescu can't california just fall into the ocean already and spare me the rest of the popcult story ? [22:21]
mircea_popescu i didn't care for proletcult either, and somehow i don't seem to be missing having missed out on that either. [22:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69300 @ 0.00048015 = 33.2744 BTC [-] [22:31]
nubbins` hardforks are the new altcoins [22:35]
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nubbins` i can't believe it's not bitcoin [22:35]
asciilifeform i'm still waiting for the 'dekulakization' altcoins [22:36]
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asciilifeform i.e. 'bitcoin but i get to move satoshi's coin' etc [22:36]
mircea_popescu you don;t properly grok how the ustardian mind works. you see, it's gotta be meta to be real. [22:37]
mircea_popescu it can't be something pointful, meaningful, "i get to move satoshi's stash". [22:37]
mircea_popescu it's gotta be some sort of useless, pointless derpage. [22:37]
asciilifeform i suppose asylum contains both napoleon ~and~ the i'm-a-glass-of-water types [22:38]
asciilifeform i can more readily grasp the napoleon, yes [22:38]
nubbins` the i'm-a-glass-of-water requires salvia divinorum [22:38]
nubbins` (cannot recommend the experience) [22:38]
mircea_popescu lol [22:39]
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nubbins` now there's a weird drug [22:39]
nubbins` hallucinogen that acts on opioid receptors [22:40]
asciilifeform aha [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117000 @ 0.00048453 = 56.69 BTC [+] {6} [22:40]
mircea_popescu think of it in terms of, being a very mediocre, fat woman that was writing code. lotta goto's, the ocasional for-loop-by-hand, and no passing by reference. [22:40]
asciilifeform funnily it is (or at least once was) entirely legal in usa [22:40]
mircea_popescu the kids internalized the "what would it happen if EVERYONE did that" playground "adult" thinking, and now live by it. [22:40]
mircea_popescu so they won't make an altcoin that makes YOU be able to do something, because "you" is undefined. instead... make an altcoin that "saves africa". that, ANYONE could do. [22:41]
mircea_popescu and since anyone could do, everyone should do, so why aren't you. [22:42]
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asciilifeform i still cannot properly grasp what moves these folks [22:44]
mircea_popescu same thing that moves the dust. [22:45]
mircea_popescu a guy named brown. [22:45]
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danielpbarron nubbins`> the i'm-a-glass-of-water requires salvia divinorum << haha yes. I was once a wood floor in this regard [22:52]
* assbot gives voice to TheNewDeal [22:53]
TheNewDeal where's the mpex tax code listed [22:55]
TheNewDeal or the address for taxable income [22:57]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal it's on the foundation page all listed nicely [22:57]
mircea_popescu [22:57]
assbot ..::[ The Bitcoin Foundation ]::.. ... ( ) [22:57]
TheNewDeal i'm getting archived, is that ok? [22:58]
TheNewDeal I believe I owe back taxes from my bets [22:59]
mircea_popescu so go pay. [22:59]
TheNewDeal I'm in fear of the address being hijacked [22:59]
mircea_popescu there's a signed thing in there. [22:59]
TheNewDeal can someone verify this transaction [23:02]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 ... ( ) [23:02]
TheNewDeal I believe they've unmugglized me [23:02]
mircea_popescu uh. [23:03]
TheNewDeal some wacky science occurred not too long after I made said transaction [23:03]
mircea_popescu 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 is in 00000000000000000222de4462f77457d37d1b16f3c92688dc7087106f27fda0 / aa8ff7e8e554cdbf4b95b3b4b24e70246afdc6adee250fb51012914bcede3640 [23:03]
mircea_popescu what exactly do you mean ? [23:03]
TheNewDeal brain experiments [23:04]
TheNewDeal mass shifting of neural anatomy [23:04]
TheNewDeal and I'm in fear of being asylumed in my home country [23:04]
mircea_popescu ... [23:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 171650 @ 0.00047888 = 82.1998 BTC [-] {8} [23:05]
TheNewDeal I'm stranded in central usia and I'm fearing some sort of sham court case apparating [23:05]
mircea_popescu ok... [23:06]
mircea_popescu so go to cancun ? [23:06]
TheNewDeal like a test trip to see if they allow me to pass through the border? [23:07]
mircea_popescu no, like a fuck you and your stupid shithole trip. [23:08]
TheNewDeal I've got to see if they allow a tax payment, I can't find that address from the foundation website [23:09]
danielpbarron TheNewDeal, 1FundZy7m7b8begbh9haCguKJcAdFopRJ9 [23:09]
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nubbins` wat [23:12]
mircea_popescu "i paid my taxes to these people that lol at you, problem ???" [23:13]
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mircea_popescu o look who's where. [23:13]
mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1 [23:13]
-assbot- You voiced indiancandy1 for 30 minutes. [23:13]
* assbot gives voice to indiancandy1 [23:13]
indiancandy1 MP [23:13]
mircea_popescu how's whoring ? [23:13]
indiancandy1 my boo [23:13]
indiancandy1 the pussy aint 4 sale daddy [23:13]
mircea_popescu aok [23:14]
indiancandy1 i want to get some softwares Rat, Ddos, Cookie stealer… [23:14]
indiancandy1 ? [23:14]
mircea_popescu haha what ? [23:14]
indiancandy1 u know anything [23:14]
mircea_popescu what are you trying to do again ? [23:15]
indiancandy1 some hacking stuff [23:15]
indiancandy1 i wanna learn [23:15]
indiancandy1 right anyway [23:16]
indiancandy1 mp hows the btc market [23:16]
mircea_popescu going up, apparently. [23:16]
indiancandy1 and ur other adventures? [23:17]
mircea_popescu anyway, "hacking" is not a thing, it's the byproduct of knowing how to program computers. which you can learn, like anything else, provided you got the patience. [23:17]
indiancandy1 ur right [23:18]
TheNewDeal I think they're unconvered some equipment from the mines [23:18]
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TheNewDeal they're trying to reverse this whole bitcoin economy [23:19]
indiancandy1 who [23:20]
TheNewDeal the powers that be, the central control [23:20]
mircea_popescu have you been doin' anything laterly TheNewDeal ? [23:20]
TheNewDeal I have been struggling to stay afloat in the Usian ship [23:21]
TheNewDeal I've been trying to go out to the bars and enjoy some music [23:22]
indiancandy1 thats good [23:22]
indiancandy1 its always good to get out [23:22]
indiancandy1 n enjoy outside world [23:22]
TheNewDeal but I think they've got some sort of tracking program on me. Weaponry that can induce a false schizophrenia [23:22]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal i mean, any psychotropics. [23:23]
TheNewDeal thc, cbd [23:23]
TheNewDeal but I think they've tried to slip me drugs to admit to crimes that haven't occurred [23:23]
mircea_popescu yeah. they do that a lot. [23:23]
indiancandy1 thc is in wed [23:24]
indiancandy1 weed [23:24]
TheNewDeal I need a break from this mess and I'm in fear they're trying to recruit me [23:24]
mircea_popescu to slip people drugs to get them to admit to crimes that haven't occurred ? [23:24]
TheNewDeal yes - it's all counterintuitive [23:25]
TheNewDeal it's like the state machine tries to churn out criminals [23:25]
TheNewDeal I'm trying to stay apolitical and it's backfiring. The state is becoming politically charged [23:25]
mircea_popescu well... take it easy, don't fuck any goats... [23:26]
TheNewDeal did the tax payment go through? [23:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46864 @ 0.00047725 = 22.3658 BTC [-] {2} [23:26]
mircea_popescu o.O [23:27]
mircea_popescu check it out, teh republic got 10 btcs. [23:27]
danielpbarron 10 btc is 0.1% of your profits? [23:27]
mircea_popescu he must've killed it with the bitbets. [23:27]
TheNewDeal I'm in fear. [23:28]
indiancandy1 dont be [23:28]
indiancandy1 move to russia [23:28]
mircea_popescu that's where you are ? [23:28]
TheNewDeal I'm trying to get protection from people who can lend any help. I tried to send one to the mines [23:28]
indiancandy1 who me? [23:28]
mircea_popescu yes you. [23:29]
indiancandy1 lol [23:29]
indiancandy1 london babe [23:29]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal to the what ? [23:29]
TheNewDeal the mines [23:29]
mircea_popescu what mines ?! [23:29]
TheNewDeal [23:29]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction 7dbfdd2f32899da5bbe73dbb6e749f98176f8a6ff02027c16e37fac7b3135163 ... ( ) [23:29]
TheNewDeal I looked up a miner from blockchain,info [23:29]
TheNewDeal a big miner [23:29]
TheNewDeal and now I think they're trying to make me look like a chinese spy or something [23:30]
mircea_popescu ... [23:30]
indiancandy1 this guy is on coke [23:30]
indiancandy1 sorry [23:30]
TheNewDeal no coke [23:30]
TheNewDeal cigarettes [23:30]
indiancandy1 why so para babe [23:30]
indiancandy1 relax [23:30]
mircea_popescu you think someone's going to do what ? [23:30]
TheNewDeal I think they're trying to criminalize me [23:31]
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TheNewDeal plant a crime on me [23:31]
mircea_popescu the miner is ? [23:31]
TheNewDeal I can't remember which one [23:31]
TheNewDeal I searched for the top miners on organofcorti's website [23:31]
TheNewDeal I sent it in a panicked state [23:32]
* asciilifeform sees this nonsense, goes back to reading the lovingly detailed blueprints of t-34 he found [23:32]
indiancandy1 right mp i need some advice [23:32]
indiancandy1 i wanna finance a game [23:32]
indiancandy1 so when u launch ur games how do u choose [23:32]
indiancandy1 which ones to put money on [23:33]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal eh, have some tea and relax. nobody gives a shit you went on some website and searched for shit from some other weebsite. [23:33]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 good team, good idea, it's complicated. [23:33]
TheNewDeal the US tax law can't handle these transactions [23:33]
asciilifeform << invest in a motherfucking spectrum analyzer. [23:33]
assbot Logged on 16-12-2015 02:20:50; TheNewDeal: but I think they've got some sort of tracking program on me. Weaponry that can induce a false schizophrenia [23:33]
asciilifeform be the first. [23:33]
TheNewDeal I don't even know who I sent it to - that's basically unreportable [23:33]
indiancandy1 do you outsorce [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71000 @ 0.00047725 = 33.8848 BTC [-] [23:33]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 notrly. [23:34]
indiancandy1 outsource [23:34]
indiancandy1 u use argentina [23:34]
mircea_popescu i use slave labour for the most part. [23:34]
indiancandy1 but what country [23:34]
mircea_popescu wherever i happen to be. [23:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, you wanna invest in a game, why not go play eulora. danielpbarron will show you the ropes if you show him yours. [23:35]
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danielpbarron I can pay you to work for me yes [23:36]
indiancandy1 i got no ropes babe [23:36]
indiancandy1 LOL [23:36]
indiancandy1 pay me 2 work 4 u [23:36]
indiancandy1 daniel [23:36]
indiancandy1 ? [23:36]
mircea_popescu he's been doing that, has a regular stable of noobs going from what i gather. [23:37]
mircea_popescu pun intended. [23:37]
danielpbarron you gotta get that key from Mr. Dunne though [23:37]
mircea_popescu ahhh, homebaked muffins and iced milk coffee... [23:37]
indiancandy1 so does playing this game eaern [23:37]
danielpbarron ranges from 300k to 2 mn per hour depending on the activity [23:38]
mircea_popescu yes, you could get your very first bitcents [23:38]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron wow no shit ? 2mn ? that's like... almost minimum wage ? [23:39]
danielpbarron some things can be automated to run while your sleeping [23:39]
TheNewDeal those are the tools i'm talking about [23:39]
TheNewDeal fake sleeping tools [23:39]
danielpbarron that's two orders of trilema credits heh [23:39]
mircea_popescu i stand impressed. [23:39]
indiancandy1 2mn in pounds is what [23:42]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp [23:43]
gribble Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 307.683435, vol: 16449.86999106 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 303.6027405, vol: 12728.35091 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 292.38, vol: 5.11919016 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 317.068096, vol: 105203.31740000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 307.325, vol: 12.28616566 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 309.642805993, vol: 92.64349349 | Volume-weighted last average: 314.638931296 [23:43]
mircea_popescu like 6 quid. [23:43]
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mircea_popescu !rated TheNewDeal [23:47]
assbot You have not rated TheNewDeal. [23:47]
mircea_popescu !rate TheNewDeal 2 Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet. [23:48]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: [23:48]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.TheNewDeal.2:72f205feb029a54e96e08dbde50f07860dd069d6aa8b8021f0286fe3999b943a [23:48]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 2 for TheNewDeal with note: Put a decent chunk of change into the Bitcoin Foundation back when it wasn't fashionable yet. [23:48]
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TheNewDeal I think they're going to Shrem me hard for this [23:51]
mircea_popescu to shrem ? it's a verb now ? [23:51]
TheNewDeal pour a drink out for TheNewDeal when you have a chance [23:52]
gabrielradio TheNewDeal set up a dead man's switch [23:52]
TheNewDeal I want to see them try to politicize this. I can see it coming and I want to see how they sell out the working man in 2016 [23:53]
TheNewDeal throw em in jail, lock away the key [23:53]
TheNewDeal they think with their mind and send their money unannounced [23:53]
mircea_popescu man... politicize what. [23:54]
TheNewDeal the battle for money control [23:54]
TheNewDeal it's behind all this actual rage pent up across the glove [23:55]
TheNewDeal globe [23:55]
TheNewDeal I'm locked down on state sponsored medications and they aren't doing a thing [23:56]
hanbot TheNewDeal what medications exactly? [23:56]
TheNewDeal risperdone and mirtazapine [23:56]
hanbot how long've you been on em? [23:57]
mod6 TheNewDeal: hey, thanks! [23:57]
TheNewDeal just a couple weeks. [23:58]
TheNewDeal but it's impossible for me to get rid of eating and smoking nonstop [23:58]
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