Forum logs for 15 Aug 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
smickles < kakobrekla> this is wrong isnt it <<< i'm pretty sure it's not [00:00]
kakobrekla it was. [00:00]
kakobrekla capital was off by factor of 10 [00:00]
MoneyIsDebt Nice with the top up service [00:00]
Chaaaang-Noi yeah, sadly i now have a data plan and pay monthly [00:02]
Chaaaang-Noi i used to use it all the time was epic [00:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00038106 = 0.8764 BTC [-] [00:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48731 @ 0.00037668 = 18.356 BTC [-] [00:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57900 @ 0.00037356 = 21.6291 BTC [-] [00:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65213 @ 0.00036471 = 23.7838 BTC [-] [00:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5856 @ 0.00036172 = 2.1182 BTC [-] [00:02]
smickles kakobrekla: what was wrong about it (i guess i was only looking at the % [00:03]
smickles ) [00:03]
smickles oh [00:03]
smickles i should read more often [00:03]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 889 @ 0.00111789 = 0.9938 BTC [+] [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6701 @ 0.00111949 = 7.5017 BTC [+] [00:06]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 10010 @ 0.00112057 = 11.2169 BTC [+] [00:06]
mircea_popescu how much you;'re out on zip/rebate usagi ? [00:07]
kakobrekla hes gone [00:07]
mircea_popescu o [00:08]
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Chaaaang-Noi he is back [00:10]
Chaaaang-Noi or s/he is back :) [00:11]
usagi Oh bloody hell. Looks like I've been Shanghai'd [00:11]
mircea_popescu how much you;'re out on zip/rebate usagi ? [00:11]
Chaaaang-Noi thats what you get for being drunk in the north eastern part of the usa [00:11]
usagi $1700? [00:11]
mircea_popescu plenty huh. [00:11]
* mircea_popescu sorta fears this is a new shakaru case, based on some random comments by kludge. [00:12]
Chaaaang-Noi why did you trust him and mathew in the firstplace? [00:12]
mircea_popescu as in, guy secretly had borrowed 10's of k's. [00:12]
Chaaaang-Noi yeah once i found out kludge was working with him i sold off bdk hard hard hard, i had 80% of it at one point [00:12]
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mircea_popescu umm what's their total float ? [00:13]
mircea_popescu something like a coupla k's ? [00:13]
Chaaaang-Noi he was doing like 5 differnt projects at once [00:14]
mircea_popescu i meant the bank thingee. [00:14]
Chaaaang-Noi i wonder how much matthew got out of this [00:14]
Chaaaang-Noi other than the trip to iceland [00:14]
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mircea_popescu but seriously guyse, apart from patrickharnett's, what other serious banks are out there ? [00:14]
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usagi Given how much customer money I have under management, my fund will eat the loss on behalf of my customers [00:14]
usagi They won't notice the loss. [00:15]
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usagi .C will keep getting 8%+ a week until pirate crashes and that will be that [00:15]
Chaaaang-Noi pirate is saving a whole lot of peoples asses right now:) [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35553 @ 0.00038108 = 13.5485 BTC [+] [00:15]
mircea_popescu so i take it no banks. [00:18]
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usagi Sacre bleu! [00:18]
usagi Well Nyancat Financial is a bank, Mircea [00:18]
mircea_popescu who runs it ? where's description etc ? [00:19]
Diablo-D3 usagi: I thought you went to bed? [00:19]
usagi I run it. [00:19]
usagi I can't sleep Diablo [00:19]
Diablo-D3 too exciting? [00:19]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 is busy taking over mining world i gather :D [00:19]
usagi I had to fly to Shanghai really quick. [00:19]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yup [00:19]
usagi Mircea; Website will be up and running soon [00:19]
Diablo-D3 usagi: btw, I think I'm going to revise the trade deal tommorow [00:21]
Diablo-D3 or maybe today [00:21]
mircea_popescu mkay so i'm about to offer a proper CD, three tiered. [00:22]
Diablo-D3 require 15 mhash per trade [00:23]
mircea_popescu if anyone knows of bond issuers that are neither pirate nor mining exposed, and owned by really well known supertrustworthy people i wanna hear. [00:23]
usagi A three tiered CD? [00:23]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:24]
usagi mircea: http://tensionhead26.deviantart.com/art/Black-Sabbath-devil-34718908 [00:24]
Diablo-D3 usagi: see pm. [00:25]
mircea_popescu yes, i am devil. [00:26]
teek two of my bonds are not pirate or mining exposed [00:26]
teek there are others [00:26]
usagi TEEK.A is fully guaranteed [00:26]
mircea_popescu lettuce look into this teek. [00:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00036438 = 1.5304 BTC [-] [00:27]
mircea_popescu teek : 10k issued 586 total volume since day 1 ? [00:28]
Diablo-D3 usagi: see pm now. [00:28]
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teek mircea_popescu: something like that.. seems the interest is too low, everyone wants pirate rates [00:30]
teek :P [00:30]
mircea_popescu i hear you. [00:30]
usagi It's the same with nyan, everyone buys .c, NO ONE buys .a or even .b [00:30]
usagi And if I close sales... the price shoots up, and no one buys a or b [00:30]
usagi thats stupid [00:30]
mircea_popescu the ideea here is that im tranching 500 btc of mpoe bonds (yielding ~5% per month) + 500 btc of harnett's (yielding 1% per week). [00:31]
mircea_popescu i can't paste that with stuff doing 0.3% per week, even tho i understand that 15% pa is significant. [00:31]
teek tranching? [00:32]
Luceo mircea_popescu: If you offer 15% outside bitcoin they'd call it a HYIP :P [00:32]
mircea_popescu you know how cd's work right ? [00:32]
Luceo or a ponzi [00:32]
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Luceo in Bitcoin its too low :D [00:32]
mircea_popescu Luceo and for a good reason. [00:33]
mircea_popescu i fully understand this, and it's ap roblem, but it can't be resolved overnight. [00:33]
mircea_popescu there must be a popped ponzi first for people to learn. [00:33]
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Luceo People still wont learn :/ [00:36]
usagi Lol [00:37]
usagi I can't access google docs in China [00:37]
usagi wtf [00:37]
Luceo Use a VPN :D [00:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 15 @ 1.02 = 15.3 BTC [+] [00:38]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.125 = 1.25 BTC [+] [00:42]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+] [00:42]
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teek mircea_popescu: i just read the wiki on tranching but am a little fuzzy.. can you explain how it works here? [00:43]
mircea_popescu one sec i'll fish up a link [00:43]
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mircea_popescu teek https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?;topic=76515.0 [00:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 9 @ 0.04999999 = 0.45 BTC [+] [00:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.12 = 2.24 BTC [-] [00:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.14040001 = 0.2808 BTC [-] [00:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 71 @ 0.1404 = 9.9684 BTC [-] [00:47]
usagi bidwall is up on nyan.a if anyone wants out [00:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.13 = 1.3 BTC [+] [00:47]
usagi ASICMINER going to .5 :p [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00037287 = 5.2575 BTC [+] [00:49]
kakobrekla im afraid this is going to be a pump and dump [00:49]
usagi I will certainly sell at .5 [00:49]
usagi Maybe a little at .3 [00:49]
usagi 1-3-5-8-13 [00:49]
usagi price points. [00:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 1.0001 = 5.0005 BTC [-] [00:50]
usagi The reason why is because each price point represents a new wave of investors after the old wave has covered their risk [00:50]
DeaDTerra evening people :) [00:50]
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mircea_popescu 1-3-5-8-13 < what's this ? [00:51]
usagi The next wave will take it to .3 when it sinks into the market that ASICMINER is real [00:51]
mircea_popescu heya DeaDTerra [00:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 7 @ 1.0001 = 7.0007 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 23 @ 1 = 23 BTC [-] [00:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 93 @ 0.1047 = 9.7371 BTC [+] [00:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.1048 = 0.7336 BTC [+] [00:51]
usagi Then greedy people will rush in and the original investors will sell at .5 [00:51]
usagi Then it will go back to .3 then up to .8 again, but that might not happen for over a year [00:51]
usagi Just technical analysis price points [00:52]
usagi wave analysis etc [00:52]
DeaDTerra Selling ASICMINER shares :) Pm me if you are interested! [00:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 50 @ 1 = 50 BTC [-] [00:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.999 = 2.997 BTC [-] [00:53]
* teek is selling asicminer shares too, smoking deal @ .3 [00:53]
teek mircea_popescu: i think i get it, thanks for the info.. so out of curiosity why would mixing something at .3% and something at 1% not be desirable? [00:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 17 @ 0.987 = 16.779 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.986 = 2.958 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 76 @ 0.98501 = 74.8608 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.985 BTC [-] [00:54]
mircea_popescu teek you either mix things of the same risk and varying rewards to arbitrage reward [00:54]
mircea_popescu or things of the same reward and varying risks to arbitrage risk [00:54]
mircea_popescu my ideea is that nobody currently has an inkling as to risk measurements in btc world [00:55]
mircea_popescu so that'd be what i want to offer. [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46372 @ 0.00037287 = 17.2907 BTC [+] [00:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 22 @ 0.04999999 = 1.1 BTC [+] [00:59]
DeaDTerra how do I do the purple thing? :( [00:59]
teek mircea_popescu, still a little confused.. so in this case harnett would be the senior tranche thus offering the least reward, then mpoe, then you need some others in there or? [01:01]
mircea_popescu no [01:01]
mircea_popescu if you wait a few minutes i'll show you the actual contract. [01:01]
mircea_popescu putting the finishing touches on it nao. [01:01]
teek sure, now i just want to understand it :) [01:01]
Chaaaang-Noi $12.34 [01:02]
teek ;;ticker [01:02]
gribble Best bid: 12.32479, Best ask: 12.3248, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.32479, 24 hour volume: 47868, 24 hour low: 11.7555, 24 hour high: 12.34 [01:02]
teek holy craapola [01:02]
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teek cmon btc! daddy needs a new set of gpus! [01:03]
teek ;) [01:03]
Chaaaang-Noi lol [01:04]
Chaaaang-Noi want me to send you a second box full of 21 gpus? :) [01:04]
DeaDTerra What has pirate changed his rates to? [01:04]
DeaDTerra and is there a official announcement yet? [01:04]
teek lol [01:04]
teek naw i think im good for now :P [01:05]
teek DeaDTerra, 5% top tier [01:05]
DeaDTerra hm that sucks :( [01:06]
DeaDTerra I just got started with all of this :P [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 790 @ 0.00112057 = 0.8853 BTC [+] [01:07]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9410 @ 0.00112095 = 10.5481 BTC [+] [01:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 2 @ 0.04999999 = 0.1 BTC [+] [01:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 23 @ 0.04999999 = 1.15 BTC [+] [01:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 27 @ 0.05 = 1.35 BTC [+] [01:08]
Chaaaang-Noi 5% a week is still freaking awesome [01:09]
DeaDTerra It is but not as good at 7% xD [01:10]
teek yeah yeah mr top tier [01:10]
teek :P [01:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] [01:10]
DeaDTerra Greedy maybe [01:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 106 @ 0.00038108 = 0.0404 BTC [+] [01:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23390 @ 0.00038129 = 8.9184 BTC [+] [01:10]
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Chaaaang-Noi its not hard to get 4.8 or 4.9% with a bit of trust :) [01:12]
mircea_popescu actually, my lower tier will do 9%. [01:12]
mircea_popescu just give me a second here to finish this :D [01:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.9 BTC [-] [01:12]
usagi I hope your not copying Nyancat Financial :P) [01:12]
usagi It's weird. Every time I list a new security, 2 or 3 pop up just like it [01:13]
mircea_popescu haha i think i have dibs on cdo's usagi [01:13]
DeaDTerra hahahah xD [01:13]
mircea_popescu see the link i sent to teek above, it's from april lol [01:13]
usagi Mmm [01:13]
DeaDTerra I get 5% :) and I got 7% before, though I was not heavily invested into Pirate, but I am convinced now. [01:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 1 @ 1.539 BTC [-] [01:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 1 = 14 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 19 @ 0.05 = 0.95 BTC [+] [01:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 1.048 = 2.096 BTC [+] [01:20]
MoneyIsDebt JAH div payout missing... Hmm... [01:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.98 = 1.96 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.98 = 2.94 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 43 @ 1.51 = 64.93 BTC [+] [01:24]
DeaDTerra Did pirate pay this weekends interest fully (7%) [01:25]
kakobrekla yes [01:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 9 @ 1 = 9 BTC [+] [01:27]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 1.048 BTC [+] [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 6 @ 1.049 = 6.294 BTC [+] [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 10 @ 1.0499 = 10.499 BTC [+] [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 8 @ 1.05 = 8.4 BTC [+] [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 4 @ 1.0699 = 4.2796 BTC [+] [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 16 @ 1.07 = 17.12 BTC [+] [01:29]
DeaDTerra okay good :) [01:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.986 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 0.985 = 11.82 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.98135 = 7.8508 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9803 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9803 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 16 @ 0.9802 = 15.6832 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.9801 = 14.7015 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 49 @ 0.98 = 48.02 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.98 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 29 @ 0.9702 = 28.1358 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9701 = 3.8804 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 89 @ 0.97 = 86.33 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 73 @ 0.97 = 70.81 BTC [-] [01:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 58 @ 0.99 = 57.42 BTC [+] [01:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 83 @ 1.452 = 120.516 BTC [-] [01:31]
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DeaDTerra shit I think GLBSE crashed xD [01:34]
DeaDTerra I was going to get some cheak Pirate bonds :( [01:34]
DeaDTerra nvm up again [01:34]
MoneyIsDebt What makes you say you're now convinced? [01:35]
teek duffel bags full of cash of course [01:35]
teek :P [01:36]
DeaDTerra Several different aspects, Pirate showing that he's the manipulator, showing screenshots of him manipulating the market as well as doing it live. [01:36]
usagi lol [01:36]
DeaDTerra Showing up in person, which matches a previous picture of him. [01:36]
DeaDTerra talking to the people that meet him. [01:36]
DeaDTerra the actions of the people that meet him [01:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 1.082 = 2.164 BTC [+] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12799 @ 0.00038076 = 4.8733 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15140 @ 0.00037115 = 5.6192 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28061 @ 0.00036172 = 10.1502 BTC [-] [01:38]
MoneyIsDebt Is he lowering rates because the price is so high now, it's harder to move it? [01:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.98 = 1.96 BTC [-] [01:38]
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DeaDTerra The Bitcoin market become larger in volume hence harder to controll, he needs more capital to make the same amount hence the profit per BTC is less, hence he needs to reduce the interest rate. [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2790 @ 0.00112095 = 3.1275 BTC [+] [01:40]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9993 @ 0.00112262 = 11.2183 BTC [+] [01:40]
MoneyIsDebt I guess that makes sense... If that's how he makes the money [01:41]
DeaDTerra Of course you never know, and I am not saying it's not a risk. It's high risk high reward game. [01:42]
DeaDTerra The matter is by no way proven, but it's leaning enough for me to invest a good % of my capital into pirate [01:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.1046 = 0.8368 BTC [-] [01:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4011 = 0.8022 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 7 @ 0.401 = 2.807 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.400001 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4000001 = 2.4 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 200 @ 0.4 = 80 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.39051 = 3.1241 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.3905 = 0.781 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 50 @ 0.3905 = 19.525 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 108 @ 0.3902 = 42.1416 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 47 @ 0.1 = 4.7 BTC [-] [01:46]
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kakobrekla !pl bitbond 0.6 [01:48]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [01:48]
assbot BITBOND [1@0.6BTC] paid: 0.16332995 BTC. Last price: 0.3902 BTC. Capital gain: -0.2098 BTC. Total: -0.04647005 BTC. (-7.7%) [01:48]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.39 = 3.12 BTC [-] [01:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 8 @ 0.3851 = 3.0808 BTC [-] [01:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.22 BTC [+] [01:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.22 = 1.98 BTC [+] [01:51]
DeaDTerra Looking to buy Pirate bonds/assets for anyone that want out, and I am looking to sell ASICMINER shares :) [01:53]
Ignatius-otc Paying par on bonds or? How much are you selling asic shares for? [01:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.DIV] 3 @ 0.575 = 1.725 BTC [-] [01:54]
DeaDTerra Paying par on bonds or? waht do you mean? [01:54]
DeaDTerra ASIC it depends on volume but pm me for a price ;) [01:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 2 @ 0.159899 = 0.3198 BTC [+] [01:55]
Ignatius-otc The bonds are generally 1 btc each. Are you offering 1btc for such bonds or less? [01:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1.44100011 = 2.882 BTC [-] [01:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 3 @ 1.42000011 = 4.26 BTC [-] [01:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 31 @ 1.42 = 44.02 BTC [-] [01:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 4 @ 1.42 = 5.68 BTC [-] [01:56]
usagi *** YARR: Dividend changed to 0.005/day until we get an announcement from pirate [01:56]
DeaDTerra 1 BTC each [01:57]
DeaDTerra or maybe a bit less [01:57]
DeaDTerra depending if the Interest rates are already paid out and what the market looks like [01:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [M.ETF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] [01:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104599 BTC [-] [01:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 33 @ 0.12 = 3.96 BTC [-] [01:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.112 = 1.12 BTC [-] [01:59]
mircea_popescu alrighty so. ANNOUNCEMENT : introducing MPCD.A, .B and .C [01:59]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php [01:59]
mircea_popescu go read the contract and have fun trading! [01:59]
mircea_popescu taking any questions. [01:59]
DeaDTerra Wow creative... I think I have heard about that before... something about a cat [02:01]
usagi Lol [02:01]
mircea_popescu a cat ? [02:01]
usagi Lol DT I know, like I said [02:01]
DeaDTerra Maybe a NyanCat? or maybe it wasn't a cat at all just Nyan. yea just Nyan [02:02]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?;topic=76515.0 << APRIL omg. [02:02]
mircea_popescu and btw, pinging teek. [02:02]
usagi No one is saying they invented the CDO [02:03]
usagi Just seems strange 2 days after I explained NYAN to you, this comes out :p [02:03]
usagi Kind of like TYGRR.BOND-PI and yarr but hey [02:03]
usagi It's a big market, I'm not the only fast food restaurant [02:04]
kakobrekla mpoe bonds are fixed at 4.9? [02:04]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 5000 @ 0.001 = 5 BTC [02:04]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C100T] 1 @ 0.25910304 BTC [+] [02:04]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla currently fixed at 5% kakobrekla [02:04]
mircea_popescu dude srsly. this was announced ~4 months ago! [02:04]
kakobrekla lolwhat [02:05]
usagi No one is saying they invented a CDO [02:05]
eennaam start a niche market with regular speed food restaurant , or hell even slow food [02:05]
mircea_popescu as in can't go over 5% [02:05]
usagi I'm just ribbing you mircea. But I doubt you will pay 15% like you said [02:05]
mircea_popescu 9% ? why not ? [02:05]
usagi 9%, right [02:05]
usagi Because it's too imbalanced [02:05]
usagi You're paying 2x the value of the highest known paying security [02:06]
usagi What kind of guarantee are you offering? [02:06]
mircea_popescu well that is the very point of a cdo. [02:06]
usagi for the top trance? [02:06]
usagi It's too much pressure. You will have to limit sales. [02:06]
mircea_popescu the top pays 2. the bottom pays 9. [02:06]
usagi Then the price will shoot up and investors will not realize 9% [02:06]
BTCHero aww all the asicminer is gone [02:06]
mircea_popescu sales are limited. did you read the contract ? [02:06]
usagi No [02:07]
usagi lol [02:07]
usagi Well sales are limited, right [02:07]
usagi I should probably do that too [02:07]
usagi Henceforth NYAN.C is limited to 3,000 outstanding [02:07]
usagi GET IT WHILE YOU CAN [02:07]
mircea_popescu cdos are limited by their very nature. [02:07]
mircea_popescu lol! [02:07]
kakobrekla hm imho clean mpoe bonds is better deal than A or B [02:07]
usagi quick im logging in now to cancel the ask [02:07]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla well possibly, depends on your risk profile et all. [02:08]
mircea_popescu A has practically no risk i would guess. [02:08]
kakobrekla i dont see how A can have less risk than MPOE bond if its operated by you on the end [02:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 80000 @ 0.001 = 80 BTC [02:09]
mircea_popescu well mpoe bond can either not kick in (if people offer lower interest) [02:09]
mircea_popescu or lese it could get hosed if people buy options and get lucky. [02:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00038129 = 6.1388 BTC [+] [02:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 1 = 12 BTC [+] [02:11]
brendio MPOE bonds loose if MPOE makes a loss. For A to lose, one and possibly more of MPOE bonds, Patrick and NYAN would need to makes losses. [02:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 56 @ 0.98 = 54.88 BTC [-] [02:11]
BTCHero patrick starfish [02:12]
mircea_popescu A is 400 out of a 1.1k pool. [02:12]
BTCHero ? [02:12]
mircea_popescu either mpoe or patrick would have to completely wipeout [02:12]
mircea_popescu and then some [02:12]
mircea_popescu yes BTCHero [02:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22110 @ 0.00038129 = 8.4303 BTC [+] [02:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22390 @ 0.000383 = 8.5754 BTC [+] [02:12]
mircea_popescu tbh i don't think there exists more secure anything than .A atm. [02:12]
teek mircea_popescu, the %'s for a,b,c are these arbitrary #'s you decide or is there some math behind them? [02:12]
usagi nyan.a is guaranteed by bitcoins held in an offline paper wallet. [02:13]
mircea_popescu teek i just picked numbers. [02:13]
mircea_popescu pretty much want to see what market says. [02:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 188 @ 0.003828 = 0.7197 BTC [-] [02:14]
teek i see [02:15]
teek usagi, this isn't really the same as nyan [02:15]
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usagi there are three, chain-default tiers for which the interest paid is declared by fiat out of a pool, and not related to the underlying value of the funds? [02:16]
usagi Actually I think she mentioned there are 2 tiers [02:17]
mircea_popescu who's she ? and whether there's 2 or 18 is not really too important. [02:17]
usagi Well teek, didn't you actually invented the first CDO you know, teek.A and teek.B? [02:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+] [02:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [ARS] 5 @ 0.009 = 0.045 BTC [-] [02:18]
teek i am honestly not sure, but teek.a and teek.b really have no relation other than name [02:18]
teek so if what mircea_popescu is doing is a cdo then no [02:18]
mircea_popescu i think it's pretty much by the book a cdo. [02:19]
kakobrekla someone should make a cdo from all pirate insured offers [02:20]
mircea_popescu that might be a great ideea actually. [02:20]
mircea_popescu tranche it 10/20/30/40 in 4 tiers [02:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-] [02:21]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.94 BTC [-] [02:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.99899 BTC [+] [02:25]
mircea_popescu the only difference, teek, might be that in general cdos are based on fixed rate investments, which arguably mpoe bonds aren't, or at least eskimobob so argues. [02:26]
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smickles oooh, i see some nifty bonds [02:27]
mircea_popescu o hai. [02:27]
patrickharnett yes, there is a lurking starfish [02:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 40 @ 0.05 = 2 BTC [+] [02:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.9999 = 2.9997 BTC [+] [02:28]
mircea_popescu patrickharnett so i guess this has the side advantage to you that you know when you'll be asked to repay : 30th of october or thereabouts. [02:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [+] [02:29]
patrickharnett I didn't notice the 30'th date - wouldn't be a problem anyway [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32810 @ 0.000383 = 12.5662 BTC [+] [02:29]
mircea_popescu well since the bonds die and repay on the 1st of nov [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18714 @ 0.00038423 = 7.1905 BTC [+] [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 797 @ 0.00039267 = 0.313 BTC [+] [02:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5615 @ 0.00039477 = 2.2166 BTC [+] [02:29]
mircea_popescu it'd be a few days prior. [02:29]
patrickharnett it's only 500+interest, it's not lots [02:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.1375 BTC [+] [02:30]
mircea_popescu not this time. [02:30]
mircea_popescu if these are successfull any i will make larger ones. [02:30]
smickles ciuciu: you're really hung up on that, arn't you? [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 120000 @ 0.001 = 120 BTC [02:31]
smickles oh, i didn't realize that [02:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 3 @ 1.0201 = 3.0603 BTC [-] [02:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9999 BTC [+] [02:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 1 @ 1.539 BTC [-] [02:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 5 @ 1.02 = 5.1 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 10 @ 1.011 = 10.11 BTC [-] [02:35]
mircea_popescu [GLBSE] [DMC] 4 @ 0.05 = 0.2 BTC [+] wait a second. didn;t that start at 1.0 !? [02:35]
mircea_popescu MoneyIsDebt who's JAH ? [02:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 4 @ 0.0999 = 0.3996 BTC [-] [02:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 3 @ 0.10274699 = 0.3082 BTC [-] [02:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1.135 = 5.675 BTC [-] [02:37]
DeaDTerra Go with Kluge :) [02:38]
DeaDTerra that's what I did, nice guy and very trustable [02:38]
MoneyIsDebt Mining bond. Pays daily, always at exact time. Skipped once only - today. But it was explained on the forum [02:38]
mircea_popescu a ok [02:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.13849 = 2.277 BTC [+] [02:39]
mircea_popescu didn't kludge get burned a yet undisclosed ammt over the owens/zip/rebate fiasco recently ? [02:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [02:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 16 @ 0.05 = 0.8 BTC [+] [02:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [+] [02:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.125 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.08909 = 2.1782 BTC [-] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 3 @ 1.13 = 3.39 BTC [+] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 9 @ 1.195 = 10.755 BTC [+] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIPPT] 12 @ 1.2 = 14.4 BTC [+] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9901 = 3.9604 BTC [-] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [-] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.99 = 3.96 BTC [-] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 12 @ 0.98 = 11.76 BTC [-] [02:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-MINING] 3 @ 0.861 = 2.583 BTC [-] [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00037473 = 5.8083 BTC [-] [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3278 @ 0.00036172 = 1.1857 BTC [-] [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9469 @ 0.0003552 = 3.3634 BTC [-] [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6453 @ 0.00034738 = 2.2416 BTC [-] [02:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCS] 3 @ 0.00965 = 0.029 BTC [-] [02:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCS] 47 @ 0.0095 = 0.4465 BTC [-] [02:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.19999 = 4.9998 BTC [+] [02:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21524 @ 0.00039477 = 8.497 BTC [+] [02:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18114 @ 0.00039502 = 7.1554 BTC [+] [02:57]
DeaDTerra I think a lot of us learnt from the whole JRO mess, At least I know that I learnt a lot. [02:59]
DeaDTerra I have actually added a couple of rules to my investment rules book ^^ to prevent it happening again [03:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 2 @ 1.39 = 2.78 BTC [-] [03:00]
mircea_popescu are they public? [03:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 38 @ 0.98 = 37.24 BTC [-] [03:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9719 = 3.8876 BTC [-] [03:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 18 @ 0.971 = 17.478 BTC [-] [03:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.159899 BTC [+] [03:10]
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assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.092 BTC [+] [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 137 @ 0.00112262 = 0.1538 BTC [+] [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2063 @ 0.00112821 = 2.3275 BTC [+] [03:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.1028 BTC [+] [03:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 1 @ 0.08999999 BTC [+] [03:13]
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DeaDTerra Anyone want to buy ASICMINER shares? ^^ [03:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 1 @ 0.99898 BTC [-] [03:16]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 3 @ 0.20079244 = 0.6024 BTC [-] [03:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 1 @ 0.16948855 BTC [-] [03:20]
DeaDTerra Good night guys! if anyone want anything pm/email me and I will answer asap [03:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 17500 @ 0.001 = 17.5 BTC [03:28]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9999 BTC [+] [03:44]
Diablo-D3 damnit [03:44]
Diablo-D3 deadterra left [03:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.11 BTC [-] [03:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.08520001 = 4.3408 BTC [-] [03:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 70 @ 1.08510001 = 75.957 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 1.0851 = 10.851 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1.08000001 = 2.16 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 100 @ 1.07 = 107 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 5 @ 1.0625 = 5.3125 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.050001 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.05 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1.05 = 3.15 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 1.01200011 = 3.036 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 1.012 = 7.084 BTC [-] [03:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-] [03:49]
mircea_popescu mk so i have 8 confirms, i click check deposit in glbse and nothing happens [03:52]
mircea_popescu is this customary ? [03:52]
Ignatius-otc no,click it again [03:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00038279 = 5.2442 BTC [-] [03:54]
mircea_popescu nothing ;/ [03:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.10455 = 1.0455 BTC [-] [03:56]
Obsi that happens sometimes [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.94 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.945 = 2.835 BTC [+] [03:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.95 BTC [+] [03:57]
mircea_popescu how long does it ususally take to resolve Obsi ? [03:57]
Obsi if you click it incessantly until the deposit shows up it helps to make you feel productive [03:57]
Obsi not long usually 10 mins or so [03:57]
mircea_popescu its been maybe half hour [03:58]
Ignatius-otc I haven't had it take longer than 6 confirms eprsonally. [03:58]
Obsi I've had it not show after 7-8 confirms, then show up on the next one after I clicked the check for deposit button [03:58]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 100000 @ 0.001 = 100 BTC [03:59]
mircea_popescu well im at 11 confirms already [03:59]
mircea_popescu aha [03:59]
mircea_popescu ok that did it [03:59]
Obsi wow, never had it go that far [03:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.99989999 BTC [-] [03:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 1 @ 1.539 BTC [-] [03:59]
mircea_popescu lets make usagi happy nao. [03:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 100 @ 1 = 100 BTC [-] [04:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.32 BTC [-] [04:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7186 @ 0.00039502 = 2.8386 BTC [+] [04:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6214 @ 0.0003965 = 2.4639 BTC [+] [04:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 27 @ 0.05 = 1.35 BTC [+] [04:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.05 BTC [+] [04:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.99989999 BTC [-] [04:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.A] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [-] [04:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 21 @ 0.07654 = 1.6073 BTC [+] [04:10]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.10459 = 2.0918 BTC [+] [04:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 21 @ 0.10274699 = 2.1577 BTC [-] [04:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDK.BND] 17 @ 0.102747 = 1.7467 BTC [+] [04:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 1 @ 0.167 BTC [+] [04:20]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10459 = 0.3138 BTC [+] [04:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.16789 = 0.5037 BTC [+] [04:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 50 @ 0.99 = 49.5 BTC [-] [04:25]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [11:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin assets and securities discussion. || Bitcoin asset exchanges: GLBSE https://glbse.com || MPEx http://polimedia.us/mpex || CST https://cryptostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades [11:01]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Aug 14 22:29:27 2012 [11:01]
Diablo-D3 hmm interesting [11:02]
Diablo-D3 btc-mining would be 1:9 DMC [11:02]
mircea_popescu smickles no, i just don't patronize places where idiots like gmaxwell are allowed to run wild. [11:02]
* usagi takes a peice of popcorn and slowly begins munching [11:03]
Diablo-D3 thats at the new 15mh/share trade rate [11:03]
usagi 370/15 = 9. [11:04]
PsychoticBoy you are slowly killing your company Diablo + a lot of other GLBSE assets too, since your stupid asicminer swap [11:05]
Harvey00 U mad bro? [11:05]
mircea_popescu what's the story here ? [11:05]
PsychoticBoy dmc share worth NOTHING [11:05]
Harvey00 U jelly? [11:05]
Diablo-D3 PsychoticBoy: if you say so [11:05]
PsychoticBoy ok 0.05 is not nothing but also not the 1 btc you started with [11:05]
* usagi takes a handful of popcorn and begins masticating furiously [11:05]
BTC-Mining ah, Diablo keeps changing the rate at which he accepts shares [11:05]
nefario you know [11:05]
nefario it's really hard to speak [11:06]
mircea_popescu why ? [11:06]
nefario with a dick in your mouth [11:06]
PsychoticBoy lol [11:06]
BTC-Mining As usual, only considers hashing for trading, not BTC price [11:06]
mircea_popescu no nefario we didn't know that :D [11:06]
nefario your timing was perfect [11:06]
PsychoticBoy I am sooooo sorry for the people who bought your share at 1 btc :( [11:07]
usagi Well look at BMF, we bought YABMC at 0.30 (or was it 0.40) [11:08]
PsychoticBoy knowing now its worth not a thing [11:08]
mircea_popescu is this a case of miners not understanding finance ? [11:08]
usagi Mining bonds are inherrently a bad investment [11:08]
usagi Yeah pretty much mircea [11:08]
PsychoticBoy thats the market that killed yabmc, diablo is killing dmc [11:08]
usagi You can buy mining bonds at 0.1/mhash now, do you know why? [11:09]
mircea_popescu cause they're worth about that ? [11:09]
usagi Nope [11:09]
usagi because of OBSI.1MHS. [11:09]
usagi Selling out at 0.1 [11:09]
mircea_popescu ... [11:09]
PsychoticBoy because everybody thinks asics are comes. MARK MY WORDS: NO asics before 2013 [11:09]
mircea_popescu PsychoticBoy that may very well be true actually. [11:09]
BTC-Mining End of 2012, 2013, 2014 [11:10]
usagi Now, step 2 beyond obsi, is asicminer [11:10]
BTC-Mining All seems very soon to me [11:10]
usagi asicminer is selling mhash for less than 0.01/mhash [11:10]
usagi You can either capitalize on that or die [11:10]
mircea_popescu i think few people comprehend the intricacies of getting a foundry to do a run. [11:10]
PsychoticBoy asicminer will not develop any asics before 2013 either [11:10]
mircea_popescu this "can do" attitude has gotten people in a ridiculous position. [11:10]
usagi There are multiple companies with 2012 release dates [11:10]
mircea_popescu doing an asic run is actually of the complexity level of releasing a blockbuster movie. [11:11]
PsychoticBoy yep BFL will not meet their requirements [11:11]
PsychoticBoy also asicminer wont finish before 2013 [11:11]
BTC-Mining You are all assuming BFL had not started/worked on this privately long before announcing the ASICs [11:11]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining bfl has not the money to do this. [11:11]
PsychoticBoy uhhh BFL always fuks up their costumers [11:12]
BTC-Mining You can't even know that, technically [11:12]
mircea_popescu an asic run is in the 50-100mn range as the absolut minimum. they don't have 50 mn. [11:12]
usagi Lots of VC is moving into bitcoin now, I am willing to bet there's at least one secret competitor [11:12]
mircea_popescu yes, i can know how much money any company has. [11:12]
mircea_popescu this is why i'm paid to do consulting. [11:12]
mircea_popescu irl. [11:12]
usagi What about 130nm? [11:12]
usagi ASICMINER is 130 isn't it? [11:13]
Diablo-D3 ssh usagi. [11:13]
Diablo-D3 let the trolls have their fun [11:13]
mircea_popescu what 130nm ? im talking millions us$. [11:13]
usagi Well mircea I am doing an interview with friedcat right now [11:13]
BTC-Mining That's impossible mircea, except for publicly traded companies who have public financial statements [11:13]
usagi Do you have any questions for him? [11:13]
mircea_popescu i don't right off know who that is [11:13]
Diablo-D3 =| [11:14]
usagi friedcat = ASICMINER [11:14]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining not really impossible. sometimes difficult. [11:14]
mircea_popescu o o. i don't think so, not atm. [11:14]
usagi Mircea you seem a little out of touch with the market these days, no offense [11:14]
mircea_popescu i don't see what the offense'd be. [11:14]
usagi Well you run an exchange I guess your busy hehe [11:14]
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mircea_popescu im not too busy to know the semiconductor trade, but anyway. [11:15]
usagi I'm under the impression you could go to any of 50 companies with a design and have them print it [11:17]
usagi They have a design [11:17]
usagi It's actually not that difficult, just a lot of sha cores right [11:18]
usagi like 50 or 100 i imagine, on a chip [11:18]
usagi no idea really [11:18]
mircea_popescu you're under a wrong impression. [11:19]
mircea_popescu what you describe is true of fpgas [11:19]
mircea_popescu which are specifically made to exist as prototyping units. [11:19]
mircea_popescu asics are large and expensive runs. just the set-up cost for the foundry to do an asic run can be 10mn. [11:19]
mircea_popescu and i never heard of foundry runs for less than millions of units. [11:20]
Diablo-D3 I have [11:20]
mircea_popescu sony regularly does billion-dollar runs [11:20]
Diablo-D3 its not uncommon. [11:20]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 there are some cheaper variants to set up that deliver dubious product, as in, the economies of scale don't get to play much [11:20]
usagi I see a lot of small companies around 10-100 million that do small runs [11:20]
mircea_popescu and you can end up with significant bad chip rates. [11:20]
usagi eSillicon signed apple when they only had a market cap of like 75 million [11:21]
mircea_popescu to cut this entire story short : i think any of the btc companies are well meaning, and i think asics will eventually come [11:21]
Diablo-D3 its hard to get a bad chip rate on 130nm nowadays [11:21]
Diablo-D3 especially with pre-existing IP. [11:21]
mircea_popescu i do not believe any of them has the wherewithal to pull it off this year. [11:21]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 these are all new designs really. [11:21]
mircea_popescu we don't know jack shit of the resonances etc. [11:21]
Diablo-D3 they're not as new as you think they are. [11:22]
mircea_popescu are you telling me any of the asic proposing companies actually BOUGHT an already ran design ? [11:22]
Diablo-D3 Im not telling you anything. [11:22]
Diablo-D3 What I am doing is going to bed [11:23]
Diablo-D3 night all [11:23]
mircea_popescu nn. [11:23]
mircea_popescu usagi : a. esillicon does not own or run foundries, they mostly manage other people's runs b. bfl has no 75 mn mkt cap. [11:23]
usagi Yes, they are fabless hehe [11:24]
usagi The thing is this isn't 23nm [11:25]
usagi it's 130 [11:25]
mircea_popescu to put it in perspective : we're discussing the efficient moving of coal, and somebody proposes they will do it by car and shows that their cousin who is a cab driver drives a cab on a yearly budget of 10k. [11:25]
mircea_popescu sure. however... [11:25]
usagi I have exact cost numbers for you [11:25]
usagi But you will have to wait until the interview. [11:25]
mircea_popescu usagi : yes, ideally they could get lucky and catch some production hole or something [11:25]
mircea_popescu this'd mean an insider or two being on the board and helping out. [11:26]
usagi wink wink [11:26]
usagi One of the major shifts we have seen in the last several months [11:26]
usagi is that bitcoin based busiesses are no longer one man shows. [11:26]
mircea_popescu understand : these are high risk propositions, the ideea we'll get rich because we're sparrows and find a crumb some ogre lefrt behind. [11:26]
usagi The most successful ones are all multiperson now [11:26]
mircea_popescu maybe we get the crumb, maybe we get the club. [11:26]
usagi Yep [11:26]
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mircea_popescu mpex was multiperson since day one. [11:27]
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mircea_popescu that bitcoin consultancy disaster has been multiperson for abnout as long [11:27]
usagi Thats why I have only invested about 2-3% into asicminer [11:27]
usagi That being said it's my top holding [11:28]
usagi Bitcoin consultancy, JRO? [11:31]
usagi or is that bitcoinina [11:31]
usagi I've lost track of all the failures [11:31]
usagi All of those failures are because one person had too much control over a business [11:31]
usagi For example the JRO stuff. Why was there no treasurer? [11:32]
usagi You can't seriously run a business without a treasurer or a dead man's switch nowadays [11:32]
mircea_popescu bitcoin consultancy was bitcoinica/intersango and i guess glsbe [11:32]
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mircea_popescu or they've separated now or i dunno [11:32]
usagi What we should do is make a list of questions, designed to expose the failures of the past, [11:32]
mircea_popescu this would be a worthy ideea. [11:33]
usagi Hmm, and use that list somehow [11:33]
usagi Just simple innocuous questions [11:33]
usagi like, how many employees does your company have [11:34]
usagi (If the answer is zero, it's not much of a business is it) [11:34]
mircea_popescu maybe it is. most miners seem to be loners. [11:34]
mircea_popescu does gigavps have employees ? [11:34]
usagi I actually employ four people (i.e. pay them) although they're all part time :< [11:34]
usagi He must have someone to do something with that many GPUs [11:35]
usagi But it raises the issue, do we really need another 5ghs miner startup [11:35]
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usagi Gigamining has a huge market cap so it's a little different they can buy their way in, but if I were to buy a single and start a company [11:35]
usagi Hmmm, maybe thats not a good idea anymore. [11:35]
area Giga has two farms right? [11:36]
mircea_popescu if not three [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P120T] 2 @ 0.13105082 = 0.2621 BTC [-] [11:40]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 1.0049 BTC [-] [11:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 1 @ 1.14999999 BTC [+] [11:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 20 @ 0.1028 = 2.056 BTC [+] [11:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] [11:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] [11:47]
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assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 100 @ 0.035001 = 3.5001 BTC [-] [11:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 200 @ 0.035 = 7 BTC [-] [11:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 1 = 4 BTC [+] [11:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 1 @ 0.153 BTC [-] [11:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 23 @ 0.1199 = 2.7577 BTC [-] [11:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 20 @ 0.12 = 2.4 BTC [+] [11:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.0003965 = 1.705 BTC [+] [11:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 43 @ 0.121 = 5.203 BTC [+] [12:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27400 @ 0.0003965 = 10.8641 BTC [+] [12:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-B] 46 @ 0.1 = 4.6 BTC [-] [12:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23494 @ 0.00039172 = 9.2031 BTC [-] [12:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12206 @ 0.00038892 = 4.7472 BTC [-] [12:25]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 65 @ 0.11 = 7.15 BTC [-] [12:31]
DeaDTerra Still selling ASICMINER [12:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MERGEDMINING] 4 @ 0.08 = 0.32 BTC [+] [12:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [RSM] 2 @ 0.26 = 0.52 BTC [-] [12:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9901 = 3.9604 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.99 = 4.95 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.985 = 6.895 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.98112012 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.98112 = 2.9434 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.98101 = 3.924 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 17 @ 0.981 = 16.677 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 13 @ 0.981 = 12.753 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.98 = 1.96 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.971 BTC [-] [12:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 45 @ 0.97 = 43.65 BTC [-] [12:45]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.97 = 14.55 BTC [-] [12:47]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1171 = 1.7565 BTC [+] [12:49]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 1.0101 = 2.0202 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 1.01 = 5.05 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 1 @ 1.0025 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 39 @ 1.002 = 39.078 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 5 @ 1.0002 = 5.001 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 25 @ 1.0001 = 25.0025 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 123 @ 1 = 123 BTC [-] [12:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50200 @ 0.0003965 = 19.9043 BTC [+] [12:53]
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DeaDTerra why are people panicing so much xD [12:56]
DeaDTerra so sell of a bond that's worth 1 BTC for less just due to a interest decrease is crazy :P [12:56]
mircea_popescu speculation is speculation. [12:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 20 @ 0.1199 = 2.398 BTC [+] [12:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [13:00]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6600 @ 0.00108634 = 7.1698 BTC [+] [13:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4435 @ 0.0003965 = 1.7585 BTC [+] [13:02]
assbot [MPEX] [O.HASH.C10TH] 150000 @ 0.00017429 = 26.1435 BTC [-] [13:07]
DeaDTerra I guess people are thinking pirate will default soon in which case they would be useless. [13:08]
DeaDTerra which I guess might be the case [13:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2500 @ 0.00111592 = 2.7898 BTC [+] [13:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 176 @ 0.00112697 = 0.1983 BTC [+] [13:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.955 = 2.865 BTC [-] [13:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9505 = 3.802 BTC [-] [13:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 76 @ 0.95 = 72.2 BTC [-] [13:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.108 = 21.6 BTC [-] [13:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.107 = 21.4 BTC [-] [13:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2824 @ 0.00112697 = 3.1826 BTC [+] [13:18]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1331 @ 0.00112821 = 1.5016 BTC [+] [13:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.9751 = 2.9253 BTC [-] [13:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 100 @ 0.975 = 97.5 BTC [-] [13:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 7 @ 0.97000004 = 6.79 BTC [-] [13:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 3 @ 0.97000002 = 2.91 BTC [-] [13:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 13 @ 0.97 = 12.61 BTC [-] [13:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.97 = 1.94 BTC [-] [13:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.104599 = 0.7322 BTC [+] [13:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.BTCST.PPT] 4 @ 1.025 = 4.1 BTC [+] [13:23]
assbot [MPEX] [O.HASH.C10TH] 150000 @ 0.000775 = 116.25 BTC [+] [13:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 15000 @ 0.001 = 15 BTC [13:32]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.9999 = 1.9998 BTC [+] [13:37]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 7777 @ 0.001 = 7.777 BTC [13:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 60000 @ 0.001 = 60 BTC [13:42]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.92 = 1.84 BTC [-] [13:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.1199 BTC [+] [13:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.05 = 0.25 BTC [-] [14:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52200 @ 0.00039449 = 20.5924 BTC [-] [14:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 300 @ 0.105 = 31.5 BTC [-] [14:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2532 @ 0.00112821 = 2.8566 BTC [+] [14:10]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2585 @ 0.00113235 = 2.9271 BTC [+] [14:10]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.92 = 1.84 BTC [-] [14:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4255 = 2.553 BTC [-] [14:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12451 @ 0.00038892 = 4.8424 BTC [-] [14:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4817 @ 0.0003874 = 1.8661 BTC [-] [14:28]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1171 = 1.7565 BTC [-] [14:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.117 = 0.585 BTC [-] [14:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.HASH.C10TH] 150000 @ 0.0001716 = 25.74 BTC [-] [14:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00039449 = 0.9862 BTC [+] [14:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1900 @ 0.0003965 = 0.7534 BTC [+] [14:44]
mircea_popescu whoa going to 12.5 [14:45]
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kakobrekla ;;ticker [14:53]
gribble Best bid: 12.405, Best ask: 12.44999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04499, Last trade: 12.44999, 24 hour volume: 46501, 24 hour low: 11.925, 24 hour high: 12.4799 [14:53]
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assbot [GLBSE] [PUREASIC] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+] [14:55]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5900 @ 0.00111945 = 6.6048 BTC [-] [14:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 1 @ 0.075 BTC [-] [15:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59504 @ 0.0003965 = 23.5933 BTC [+] [15:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 400 @ 0.105 = 42 BTC [-] [15:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9531001 = 3.8124 BTC [+] [15:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 88 @ 0.003828 = 0.3369 BTC [-] [15:13]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.0201 = 4.0804 BTC [+] [15:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 16 @ 1.02 = 16.32 BTC [-] [15:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 13 @ 1.46 = 18.98 BTC [-] [15:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.02 = 4.08 BTC [-] [15:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-] [15:26]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 1 @ 1.068 BTC [+] [15:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 1.069 = 4.276 BTC [+] [15:39]
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usagi it's the bullion effect [15:44]
usagi but for bitcoins [15:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 75 @ 0.05899999 = 4.425 BTC [+] [15:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00039322 = 2.3986 BTC [-] [15:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABIF] 1 @ 1 BTC [-] [15:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.104 = 0.728 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.1035 = 0.7245 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.103 = 0.412 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1023 = 2.046 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.102 = 0.51 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.10100001 = 5.05 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.1001 = 1.8018 BTC [-] [15:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 289 @ 0.1 = 28.9 BTC [-] [15:58]
kakobrekla huhu [15:58]
DeaDTerra ASICMINER shares anyone? [15:59]
DeaDTerra I really want a GLBSE app for android :( [15:59]
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kakobrekla ill takes asicminer of 0.1 [16:00]
kakobrekla for [16:00]
DeaDTerra Kako sure how many? [16:01]
gigavps ciuciu why don't you PM him [16:01]
gigavps o [16:01]
gigavps well [16:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.0003965 = 2.1015 BTC [+] [16:01]
gigavps maybe you should use your 1k btc for your mining coop [16:02]
DeaDTerra or give it to me? I am always a fan of charity xD [16:02]
gigavps lol [16:04]
gigavps i get no benefit from gigamining being traded [16:04]
gigavps i fulfill the contract as written [16:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.3999 = 2.3994 BTC [-] [16:05]
gigavps no [16:05]
DeaDTerra haha nah xD I was just joking, I am fine [16:05]
gigavps i don't keep up with sock puppet accounts on the forums [16:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [16:08]
gigavps mpoe-pr is a sock puppet account for Mr. Popescu [16:09]
gigavps i don't have a sock puppet account and can speak for myself just fine [16:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 1 @ 0.058999 BTC [-] [16:09]
usagi Technically a sock puppet account is created to confuse an issue [16:10]
usagi I don't really think it's proper to call a -PR account a sock puppet [16:10]
usagi Yeah but anyone who is anyone knows it is him [16:11]
usagi it's not like he is trying to hide under an anonymous name [16:11]
usagi Oh.. look [16:13]
usagi Pirate lost his bet with Vandroiy [16:13]
usagi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91661.msg1013589#msg1013589 [16:13]
usagi "...as long as there is advance notice of at least 30 calendar days" [16:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.92 = 1.84 BTC [-] [16:21]
usagi "I have no doubt that John Ciuciu citizen, working man without a dick presented identity documents found on the internet and other hard evidence, clear and indisputable fact that investors will realize the benefits Ciuciu and receive money back from Ciuciu." [16:22]
usagi lol [16:22]
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usagi So ciuciu did you end up buying any YARR or NYAN? :) [16:26]
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usagi o_o [16:29]
usagi So it was you :) [16:29]
usagi I think I am gonna shut YARR down somehow, or sell it [16:29]
usagi PPT was sold, FOO.PPPPT was sold [16:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 7 @ 0.058999 = 0.413 BTC [-] [16:30]
usagi I should be able to sell YARR [16:30]
usagi But.. no buyers [16:30]
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usagi Now that pirate lowered his rates, running YARR has become more profitable than investing in pirate. [16:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 20 @ 0.125 = 2.5 BTC [+] [16:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 6 @ 0.4255 = 2.553 BTC [+] [16:39]
Harvey00 I gave somebody 77 Bitcoins in 2010 for nothing. [16:39]
Harvey00 Let's see if I can track them down today and tell them about their winnings. [16:39]
mircea_popescu maybe they're heroic bitcoins, they made it through the mtgox hack, and all the later hacks [16:41]
mircea_popescu yea, somebody should write a novel of bitcoin, about this one satoshi that was in ALL the scams, in all the hacks, in all of it. [16:41]
mircea_popescu seems like a great premise. [16:41]
usagi tHERE ARE A MILLION BITS IN THE NAKED WALLET. [16:43]
usagi oops caps [16:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.961 = 4.805 BTC [+] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.96 = 9.6 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.9532 = 4.766 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9531002 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9530002 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.952 = 6.664 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.951 = 2.853 BTC [-] [16:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 15 @ 0.950001 = 14.25 BTC [-] [16:44]
usagi And this one was mine. It all started one day in 1996. This is the story of one Satoshi -- the Satoshi that knew too much. Although if one were to be intellectually honest one would have to mention that Satoshis are not sentient and can't really know anything. It's just a manner of speaking. Yes, it's reification, but there is a method to the madness. And this Satoshi had seen and done it all. [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2500 @ 0.00109248 = 2.7312 BTC [-] [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4100 @ 0.00108473 = 4.4474 BTC [-] [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4616 @ 0.00107944 = 4.9827 BTC [-] [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 4000 @ 0.00107912 = 4.3165 BTC [-] [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 15000 @ 0.00107865 = 16.1798 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 8558 @ 0.00107486 = 9.1987 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1100 @ 0.00107418 = 1.1816 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 400 @ 0.00107311 = 0.4292 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13226 @ 0.00106687 = 14.1104 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 1337 @ 0.001 = 1.337 BTC [16:47]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 1337 @ 0.001 = 1.337 BTC [16:47]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 1337 @ 0.001 = 1.337 BTC [16:47]
usagi Five thousand miles away from Japan, in a city known as "New York", a man ordered a cup of coffee. He paid for it with a dollar. Little did he know that due to the butterfly effect, five thousand miles away from New York in a country called "Japan", a young Englishman pretending to be Japanese had come up with a genius idea. Or perhaps it was the hundredth monkey theory. The point is that the man who bought the coffee was a computer [16:47]
usagi science grad who was interested in cryptography. And therefore, somehow, Satoshi Nakamoto KNEW WHAT HAD TO BE DONE. [16:47]
usagi I could keep going [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00039515 = 6.0063 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00038747 = 1.6661 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42262 @ 0.0003874 = 16.3723 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00038507 = 10.4739 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36600 @ 0.00038403 = 14.0555 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19801 @ 0.00038322 = 7.5881 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46900 @ 0.00038279 = 17.9529 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00037844 = 11.656 BTC [-] [16:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56937 @ 0.00037557 = 21.3838 BTC [-] [16:48]
mircea_popescu prolly works best with a plan first [16:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8163 @ 0.00037557 = 3.0658 BTC [-] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.00037538 = 20.4957 BTC [-] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32237 @ 0.00037532 = 12.0992 BTC [-] [16:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.104599 BTC [+] [16:51]
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area The chapter titles following that satoshi should just be dates and how much BTC has been in all of the hacks described previously [16:52]
area So the date goes up, and the number of BTC goes down each time [16:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 4 @ 0.0099 = 0.0396 BTC [-] [16:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 3 @ 0.0099 = 0.0297 BTC [-] [16:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12265 @ 0.00037532 = 4.6033 BTC [-] [17:00]
usagi YARR paid! [17:01]
mircea_popescu gigavps well you're one of the rare breed that can master both forum and irc. i make no such claim. [17:01]
mircea_popescu the forum's too complicated for me. [17:02]
area usagi: Yay [17:02]
gigavps mircea_popescu lol [17:02]
usagi Yay indeed :) [17:02]
gigavps mircea_popescu i think you are smarter than you let on [17:02]
gigavps i just don't like dealing with your sock puppet [17:03]
mircea_popescu haha upon ocasion that wouldn't be too hard. [17:03]
mircea_popescu well so i don't see why you'd need to, you can get on irc. [17:03]
usagi area you know the funny thing? [17:05]
usagi YARR is profitable even if I continue to pay out 0.01 a day [17:05]
usagi Maybe I should. [17:05]
usagi I could probably sell shares at 2 :p [17:05]
* area has no objections [17:05]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 5 @ 1.49999999 = 7.5 BTC [+] [17:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [+] [17:06]
area Selling shares at 2 is no risk for you, so I don't see why you shouldn't [17:06]
area I just won't buy any ;-) [17:06]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5374 @ 0.00106687 = 5.7334 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2000 @ 0.00106208 = 2.1242 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2154 @ 0.00106008 = 2.2834 BTC [-] [17:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [M.ETF] 1 @ 0.1499 BTC [-] [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2263 @ 0.00111107 = 2.5144 BTC [+] [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 11084 @ 0.00111343 = 12.3413 BTC [+] [17:09]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1653 @ 0.00113235 = 1.8718 BTC [+] [17:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.102 = 0.408 BTC [-] [17:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.10111 = 0.3033 BTC [-] [17:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.1011 = 0.3033 BTC [-] [17:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.10979999 BTC [+] [17:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 13646 @ 0.00106008 = 14.4659 BTC [-] [17:24]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 2054 @ 0.00104464 = 2.1457 BTC [-] [17:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 262 @ 0.00376708 = 0.987 BTC [-] [17:39]
Chaaang-Noi 12.50ish w00 [17:48]
mircea_popescu yee [17:49]
Chaaang-Noi !ticker dmc [17:51]
Chaaang-Noi is it under .0001 yet? :) [17:51]
assbot [GLBSE:DMC] [Bid: 0.04] [Ask: 0.05899999] [Spread: 0.01899999] [Last: 0.058999] [24hVol: 165.69368925] [7dAvg: 0.05613795] [17:51]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla, can you introduce ticker for mpex ? [17:52]
Chaaang-Noi it moved up [17:52]
mircea_popescu you'd have to read http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php, it's a json [17:52]
mircea_popescu and just parse for the symbol. it allows concurrency and goes pretty fast. [17:53]
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mircea_popescu aww not even on. [17:53]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell kakobrekla hey listen, can you introduce !ticker for mpex too ? you'd have to read http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php, it's a json and just parse for the symbol. it allows concurrency and goes pretty fast. [17:53]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.9899 BTC [+] [17:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [CBGB] 1 @ 0.49999999 BTC [+] [17:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.872 = 8.72 BTC [-] [18:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 49 @ 0.871 = 42.679 BTC [-] [18:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.B] 100000 @ 0.001 = 100 BTC [18:04]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.9899 = 7.9192 BTC [+] [18:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 10 @ 1.1009 = 11.009 BTC [-] [18:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+] [18:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.104599 = 0.2092 BTC [+] [18:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 33 @ 0.00900001 = 0.297 BTC [-] [18:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 92 @ 0.009 = 0.828 BTC [-] [18:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9701 = 3.8804 BTC [-] [18:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.104599 = 1.046 BTC [+] [18:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [+] [18:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 4 @ 0.6701 = 2.6804 BTC [-] [18:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 10 @ 0.67 = 6.7 BTC [-] [18:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMF] 7 @ 0.65 = 4.55 BTC [-] [18:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.085 BTC [-] [18:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.E] 10 @ 1.23 = 12.3 BTC [+] [18:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 10 @ 0.12 = 1.2 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [IBB] 1 @ 0.64 BTC [18:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 2 @ 0.9999 = 1.9998 BTC [+] [18:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 14 @ 0.085 = 1.19 BTC [-] [18:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.104599 = 0.6276 BTC [+] [18:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 4 @ 0.1501 = 0.6004 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 2 @ 0.15 = 0.3 BTC [-] [18:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 44 @ 0.1341 = 5.9004 BTC [-] [18:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 6 @ 1.069 = 6.414 BTC [+] [18:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.9899 = 2.9697 BTC [+] [18:29]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABIF] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [-] [18:36]
kakobrekla 15:13.19 ( usagi ) Pirate lost his bet with Vandroiy [18:39]
kakobrekla 15:13.30 ( ciuciu ) Yes, I saw it. [18:39]
kakobrekla 15:13.35 ( usagi ) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91661.msg1013589#msg1013589 [18:39]
kakobrekla did he pay' [18:39]
kakobrekla nanotube [18:41]
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kakobrekla whats going on [18:41]
farfi nothing [18:43]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.9899 = 3.9596 BTC [+] [18:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.99 BTC [+] [18:44]
kakobrekla well thats helpful [18:44]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.99 = 2.97 BTC [+] [18:46]
mircea_popescu haha nice way to make 100 btc nanotube :D [18:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 5 @ 0.05899999 = 0.295 BTC [+] [18:50]
kakobrekla i wonder how this will play out [18:50]
mircea_popescu why is the bet lost tho ? says there interest changes are ok. [18:51]
farfi I would say that both parties will aggree that the bet is still on [18:51]
usagi because there was less than 30 days notice. [18:53]
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kakobrekla brb, dont talk too much [18:53]
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mircea_popescu o that's a good point. [18:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.51439 = 1.5432 BTC [+] [18:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 12 @ 0.51449 = 6.1739 BTC [+] [18:54]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 5 @ 0.99893 = 4.9947 BTC [-] [18:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 3 @ 0.99895 = 2.9969 BTC [+] [18:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.99896 = 1.9979 BTC [+] [18:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.99897 = 1.9979 BTC [+] [18:55]
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kakobrekla continiue. [18:55]
mircea_popescu did you get gribble tells ? [18:55]
kakobrekla yes, one. [18:55]
kakobrekla not home atm, will add in the following days [18:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 7 @ 0.4332 = 3.0324 BTC [+] [18:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.4333 = 0.8666 BTC [+] [18:56]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.97 = 9.7 BTC [+] [18:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 9 @ 0.975 = 8.775 BTC [+] [18:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 4 @ 0.1799 = 0.7196 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 4 @ 0.18 = 0.72 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [ZETA-MINING] 33 @ 0.185 = 6.105 BTC [+] [18:59]
mircea_popescu a, no rush, just wanted to see if its doable. [18:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 1 @ 1.06989999 BTC [-] [18:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [BDT] 6 @ 1.06999999 = 6.42 BTC [+] [19:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 3 @ 0.34590334 = 1.0377 BTC [-] [19:00]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P100N] 2 @ 0.1599883 = 0.32 BTC [-] [19:00]
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jcpham !pl ss 1 [19:03]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [19:03]
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smickles jcpham: or wait, what did you buy at? 1.25? [19:03]
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jcpham !pl ss 1.5 [19:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.10499998 = 0.21 BTC [+] [19:04]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [19:04]
assbot SS [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.44535409 BTC. Last price: 1.9 BTC. Capital gain: 0.4 BTC. Total: 0.84535409 BTC. (56.4%) [19:04]
smickles when glbse is slow, it really does take a while [19:04]
smickles !pl [19:04]
assbot !pl [@] [] [19:04]
jcpham !pl ss 2.2 [19:04]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [19:04]
assbot SS [1@2.2BTC] paid: 0.44535409 BTC. Last price: 1.9 BTC. Capital gain: -0.3 BTC. Total: 0.14535409 BTC. (6.6%) [19:04]
smickles at 2.2, you may need to put in a date [19:04]
jcpham yeah i see [19:05]
jcpham neat [19:05]
smickles 'cause it put's in dividends too [19:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 15 @ 0.1151 = 1.7265 BTC [-] [19:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.115 = 0.46 BTC [-] [19:05]
smickles !pl mpoe.etf .1 [19:05]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [19:05]
jcpham this is per share, right [19:05]
smickles yea [19:05]
assbot MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00852236 BTC. Last price: 1.5 BTC. Capital gain: 1.4 BTC. Total: 1.40852236 BTC. (1408.5%) [19:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCWEB] 2 @ 0.04 = 0.08 BTC [-] [19:05]
smickles !pl [19:05]
assbot !pl [@] [] [19:05]
smickles that ^ [19:05]
smickles is the syntax [19:06]
jcpham got it [19:06]
smickles ^_^ see that 1400% on mpoe.etf ^_^ [19:06]
smickles with dividends today, it'l go up a bit too [19:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [PPT.A] 5 @ 1.167 = 5.835 BTC [+] [19:08]
smickles !pl gigamining 1.5 [19:09]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while). [19:09]
assbot GIGAMINING [1@1.5BTC] paid: 0.38322596 BTC. Last price: 1.1009 BTC. Capital gain: -0.3991 BTC. Total: -0.01587404 BTC. (-1.1%) [19:10]
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smickles lol [19:10]
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smickles .wik awa [19:11]
markac "Amalgamated Wireless (Australasia), a telecommunications manufacturer" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awa [19:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 1.1095979 = 4.4384 BTC [+] [19:11]
mircea_popescu MPOE.ETF [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.00852236 BTC. Last price: 1.5 BTC. Capital gain: 1.4 BTC. Total: 1.40852236 BTC. (1408.5%) [19:11]
mircea_popescu jeez that looks sweet [19:11]
smickles i've yet to pay today's dividends too [19:11]
mircea_popescu do you have the results published smickles ? [19:11]
mircea_popescu and btw to whomever it may concern : i updated http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex-vwap.php to publish more info [19:12]
smickles yeah [19:12]
mircea_popescu not just avg price in interval but also min max and volume [19:12]
smickles i sent you a link, i'll get it again [19:12]
mircea_popescu and also trade count. [19:12]
mircea_popescu o where did you send it ? i never got it. [19:12]
smickles mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.msg1099694#msg1099694 [19:12]
mircea_popescu ty [19:12]
smickles it's not unexpected that you missed it, i just hilighted you in here or #trilem (idr which) [19:13]
smickles mircea_popescu: that's a nice improvement to the vwap.php [19:14]
smickles seems a bit improperly named now tho [19:14]
smickles or is that min/max/avg of the vwap itself? [19:14]
smickles or the min/max/avg of the spot? [19:14]
mircea_popescu it is improperly named now lol [19:15]
mircea_popescu min/max of the spot [19:15]
mircea_popescu anyway, now with trade count too [19:15]
smickles and avg is still vwap? plus volume? what more could i ask for :) [19:15]
mircea_popescu :) [19:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 2 @ 0.079 = 0.158 BTC [-] [19:16]
smickles cnt? /me simultaneous lol and yay [19:16]
mircea_popescu "S.MPOE":{"1d":{"avg":"38387.3709", "min":"34738", "max":"39650", "vol":"1724168", "cnt":"84" }, [19:16]
mircea_popescu same with 7 and 390 days. [19:16]
smickles heh nice typo [19:17]
mircea_popescu can you conceive of anything else might be useful ? since we've got tghe bonnet off it atm [19:17]
mircea_popescu throw more wrenches in [19:17]
mircea_popescu lol. 30 days. [19:17]
smickles not off hand [19:17]
mircea_popescu should be good for another ~6 months. [19:17]
smickles lol, id in ht asset vwap json? [19:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 27 @ 0.115 = 3.105 BTC [-] [19:17]
* mircea_popescu steels self for the deluge of people whose code i just broke. [19:17]
smickles heh, yeah [19:17]
mircea_popescu id in ht ? huh ? [19:17]
smickles i've got a little to do [19:17]
smickles mircea_popescu: it was ciuciu's suggestion [19:18]
smickles s/ht/the/ [19:18]
mircea_popescu lmao that nut still about ? [19:18]
smickles 'erry day [19:18]
mircea_popescu see, this is why im for the draft. [19:18]
mircea_popescu gives kids something useful to do turning rocks and painting them over. [19:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0003965 = 2.0618 BTC [+] [19:19]
mircea_popescu srsly, ill say this much :" the greatest thing for a dev team is to announce some change [19:19]
mircea_popescu and immediately see a line going "shares up" [19:19]
mircea_popescu it's like... instagratifyometer. [19:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.10499899 = 0.945 BTC [-] [19:20]
nanotube mircea_popescu: :) [19:22]
smickles ciuciu: if that page is to be believed, it's right in line with typical businesses [19:23]
smickles afaik, most business don't make a profit for about the first 5 years [19:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 1 @ 0.077 BTC [-] [19:23]
smickles where's 2011 on that page? [19:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 3 @ 0.09 = 0.27 BTC [-] [19:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 21 @ 0.1011 = 2.1231 BTC [-] [19:25]
smickles ciuciu: he claims to have employees now, and the info you've given is years out of date :/ [19:26]
smickles if you're going to be so critical of the guy, at least have good data [19:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.05899999 = 1.18 BTC [+] [19:26]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 1.10949789 BTC [-] [19:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.10499899 = 1.05 BTC [-] [19:27]
smickles mircea_popescu: do you have any US GAAP / IFRS style reports for polimedia [19:27]
smickles maybe then we could come to an accurate opinion of polimedia's financial state [19:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.10499899 = 0.21 BTC [-] [19:28]
smickles why? b/c he like FEMEN? [19:28]
smickles that's a nice accusation, surely you have evidence of that [19:29]
nanotube https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91661.msg1101853#msg1101853 [19:29]
kakobrekla woohoo nanotube [19:30]
kakobrekla also mircea_popescu, anything to add to this ciuciu fud [19:30]
smickles kakobrekla: mircea_popescu has had him on ignore for a long time [19:32]
kakobrekla bah :( [19:32]
kakobrekla no fun. :( [19:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.10499899 = 2.1 BTC [-] [19:33]
smickles kakobrekla: ciuciu claims that mircea_popescu is a content thief and a spammer and a poor businessman, basically [19:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.10499899 = 0.945 BTC [-] [19:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.10499998 = 1.05 BTC [+] [19:34]
smickles ciuciu: does that say that you're involved in intersango? [19:35]
smickles and bitcoin consultancy? [19:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.1MHS] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [-] [19:36]
smickles oh, no, it doesn't does it [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 9 @ 1.14999999 = 10.35 BTC [+] [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOVETO.FUND] 11 @ 1.15 = 12.65 BTC [+] [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 5 @ 1 = 5 BTC [+] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 10 @ 0.497 = 4.97 BTC [-] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 16 @ 0.5 = 8 BTC [+] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+] [19:39]
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assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 17 @ 0.05899999 = 1.003 BTC [+] [19:41]
kakobrekla well [19:42]
kakobrekla i cant read romanian [19:42]
kakobrekla or whatever [19:42]
kakobrekla hmm? [19:42]
mircea_popescu lol trying to stir up drama kakobrekla ? [19:43]
mircea_popescu smickles mm, europe does gaap-ish things, lemme see [19:44]
smickles ciuciu: so you wre involved in Bitcoin Consultancy? [19:44]
kakobrekla im always lookin for drama [19:44]
smickles that sounds like a lye [19:45]
smickles what about ciubond or whatever it is? [19:45]
mircea_popescu smickles http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/falimentul-polimedia-srl/ there, 2011 results. the 2010 and 2009 are also published on my blog [19:45]
mircea_popescu obviously the title is tongue in cheek, if that's not obvious from the text. [19:45]
smickles thx mircea_popescu [19:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.10459 BTC [+] [19:46]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.99 = 2.97 BTC [+] [19:48]
smickles heh, accounting truly is an international language [19:48]
mircea_popescu well surely. [19:48]
mircea_popescu and bitcointalk takes forever to load ;/ [19:48]
kakobrekla ;;getrating ciuciu [19:48]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User ciuciu, rated since Mon Jul 2 18:18:02 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 0 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=ciuciu [19:48]
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mircea_popescu content thief roflmao. ahahaha this is like accusing the state of california of being vegetable thieves. [19:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 2 @ 0.05899999 = 0.118 BTC [+] [19:50]
mircea_popescu they steal all rhode island's cucumbers. [19:50]
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smickles oh wow, if i calc a L3 trust rating b/t me an ciuciu, it come out at 1 [19:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 22 @ 0.04 = 0.88 BTC [-] [19:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.03501002 = 1.7505 BTC [-] [19:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 100 @ 0.03501001 = 3.501 BTC [-] [19:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 50 @ 0.03501001 = 1.7505 BTC [-] [19:51]
smickles that's like violating the 6 degrees of keven bacon law [19:51]
smickles 0_0, when did dmg get up to .04? [19:52]
mircea_popescu wasn't it .05 ?! [19:52]
smickles ciuciu: likely true [19:52]
smickles mircea_popescu: it was down to atleast .02 yesterday [19:52]
usagi i trust smickles via rg. [19:52]
smickles usagi: cause i bought him a hotdog or something? [19:53]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust smickles [19:53]
gribble Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user smickles: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 19 via 11 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=smickles [19:53]
smickles ciuciu: what's your forum username? [19:53]
usagi ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [19:53]
gribble Trust relationship from user usagi to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 3 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=usagi&dest=mircea_popescu [19:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 80 @ 0.101 = 8.08 BTC [-] [19:53]
usagi interesting [19:53]
mircea_popescu jesus apparently i know you through everybody in this chan [19:53]
smickles ;;getturst smickles usagi [19:53]
gribble Error: "getturst" is not a valid command. [19:53]
smickles ;;getthrudst smickles usagi [19:53]
gribble Error: "getthrudst" is not a valid command. [19:53]
mircea_popescu is mad7scientist still active even ? [19:53]
smickles bah, spelling [19:54]
mircea_popescu ;;getturds [19:54]
gribble Error: "getturds" is not a valid command. [19:54]
usagi thrust? [19:54]
mircea_popescu ;;getthryst [19:54]
gribble Error: "getthryst" is not a valid command. [19:54]
smickles ;;gettrust smickles usagi [19:54]
gribble Trust relationship from user smickles to user usagi: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=smickles&dest=usagi [19:54]
usagi ;;gettrust ciuciu mircea_popescu [19:54]
gribble Trust relationship from user ciuciu to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ciuciu&dest=mircea_popescu [19:54]
smickles heh [19:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.10499998 = 2.94 BTC [+] [19:55]
smickles all that shit you are saying about him and you don't -1 him on the WOT? [19:55]
mircea_popescu what i want to know is how does sera make those sexy curved arrows ! [19:55]
usagi Because I am a senshi. [19:55]
smickles usagi: thrust? [19:56]
usagi or nevermind [19:56]
mircea_popescu that sucky moment when you can't read smickle's report cause btctalk is down :( [19:56]
smickles i could pastbin it [19:56]
usagi ;;getthrudst smickles usagi [19:56]
mircea_popescu allow me to derail the conversation then http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/aventurile-zilei-17.jpg [19:57]
smickles so it's not thrust'', it's 'thrust with a d' [19:57]
usagi I like the hemline [19:57]
smickles mircea_popescu: i like all the art you spread [19:58]
mircea_popescu it's my life's emission. [19:58]
mircea_popescu anyway, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/aventurile-zilei-in-imagini-plus-o-mie-de-cuvinte/ for the full set (+ some words in obscure languages) [19:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.105 = 2.1 BTC [+] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.105 = 2.1 BTC [+] [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+] [20:01]
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mircea_popescu It's not just you! http://bitcointalk.org looks down from here. [20:01]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.105 = 0.735 BTC [+] [20:01]
mircea_popescu theymos omg feed the hamster! [20:01]
kakobrekla oh well [20:05]
kakobrekla bbl [20:05]
kakobrekla prepare ze drama [20:05]
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smickles mircea_popescu: i figured it out, as a 'merican, culturally, i don't think losses in business are a bad thing. ya know, the whole learning from failure thing that has propelled business like Apple and such. I suspect ciuciu isn't 'merican [20:05]
mircea_popescu smickles you neglect the part where i have a lot of money and tax purposes. [20:06]
smickles .isdown bitcointalk.org [20:06]
smickles mircea_popescu: oh hyeah, i have paper losses for tax purposes too :/ [20:06]
smickles that house in columbia pretty much means i don't pay federal income tax [20:06]
mircea_popescu you warren buffett you :p [20:07]
smickles untill i start having realized gains > 100K usd [20:07]
smickles so, if bitcoin goes to 100 usd per coin, i prolly won't cash out [20:07]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 10 @ 0.077 = 0.77 BTC [-] [20:08]
smickles just leave it as unrealized gains [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 9 @ 0.077 = 0.693 BTC [-] [20:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.105 = 0.525 BTC [+] [20:10]
mircea_popescu i think i can realise about 100k on polimedia alone [20:10]
mircea_popescu not that i particularly want to, but anyway. [20:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.1 = 0.9 BTC [-] [20:10]
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smickles heh, ciuciu, you just reminded me of that pic of elon musk w/o an undershirt [20:12]
smickles now he looks like a businessman [20:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.105 = 0.84 BTC [+] [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150N] 1 @ 0.46976989 BTC [-] [20:14]
mircea_popescu musk should get into bitcoins. [20:14]
smickles mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/nz4SEUaX [20:15]
mircea_popescu a that's too kind. [20:16]
jcpham HURR [20:17]
jcpham many lulz were just had [20:17]
jcpham loudly [20:17]
mircea_popescu MPOE stock................................488.22351953 488.22351953 490.94574494 54.84171999 54.84171999 [20:17]
jcpham grim outlook [20:17]
mircea_popescu wow price stayed the same ? [20:17]
smickles mircea_popescu: it's the GAAP way to do it [20:18]
mircea_popescu o ic [20:18]
smickles mircea_popescu: combine that with the valuation allowance [20:18]
mircea_popescu yah i saw a second later. [20:18]
jcpham mircea_popescu can i give you money and you'll give me more? [20:18]
mircea_popescu jcpham there's a number of ways. [20:18]
jcpham i love free money [20:19]
mircea_popescu well, buy a mpoe bond, or else open a mpex acct if you don't have one already and trade [20:19]
smickles it come at the cost of risk, usually, jcpham [20:19]
mircea_popescu or just buy the mpcds [20:19]
mircea_popescu or my stocks [20:19]
mircea_popescu actually mpcd.a is i think the risklessyest asset in all of btcland. [20:19]
mircea_popescu maybe. [20:19]
smickles that b.mpcd.b looks mighty appealing [20:19]
jcpham smickles do it [20:19]
jcpham pull the trigger [20:20]
jcpham buy all mpcd's [20:20]
jcpham leave none for the rest [20:20]
mircea_popescu lol then resell at premium [20:20]
smickles jcpham: imsaguy has the funds right now [20:20]
jcpham nice [20:20]
usagi lol unix is such a wonderful system [20:20]
smickles mircea_popescu: if i had the funds personally, i would have already done that with 'C' [20:20]
mircea_popescu smickles 9% sounds juicy fo sho. [20:21]
jcpham so what you are saying is... [20:21]
mircea_popescu but srsly, buying equity tranche is not for the faint at heart. [20:21]
jcpham i need to move funds to this glbse thingamajig [20:21]
smickles mircea_popescu: well, i would have had a goal of 3 to 5% [20:21]
mircea_popescu jcpham you can buy mpoe bonds by just sending money over. [20:22]
mircea_popescu smickles conceivably it will take some capital hits yea. [20:22]
jcpham I'm approximately 22% complete in my journey to over9000 [20:22]
smickles ciuciu: it is a bit of a kludge, but the only funds s²cm has with imsag were the funds that were with him b/f he came on as CIO [20:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.USD] 1 @ 0.077 BTC [-] [20:22]
mircea_popescu Net cash flow from financing activities............................ (6.44483760) [20:23]
BTC-Mining Your journey? [20:23]
mircea_popescu heck ?! [20:23]
smickles now we're removing the conflict of interest [20:23]
smickles mircea_popescu: mpoe.etf pays last month's dividend in this month [20:23]
mircea_popescu btw, is imsaguy2 running a bank yet ? or still doing the whole shadow hedge fund manager thing [20:23]
BTC-Mining imsaguy came out as CIO? [20:23]
BTC-Mining Someone care to explain? I think I missed a few things [20:23]
smickles the fund had a better dividend last month due to some options and such [20:24]
mircea_popescu but how can that ammount to a loss ?! [20:24]
mircea_popescu (bear with me, i only have a cursory understanding of accounting) [20:24]
smickles mircea_popescu: its not a loss, it's cash flow [20:24]
mircea_popescu o o i see [20:24]
smickles we speant the cash which we received last month [20:25]
mircea_popescu yes yes. [20:25]
mircea_popescu jcpham http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 read the part about bonds there. [20:26]
jcpham it's more of an investment in you mircea_popescu [20:27]
jcpham the bonds are just a vehicle [20:27]
mircea_popescu why in me ? am i sexy ? [20:27]
jcpham definitely [20:27]
mircea_popescu haha cool. [20:27]
mircea_popescu somebody needs to organise an event for hedge fund managers [20:28]
jcpham what's this... [20:28]
mircea_popescu give them free cookies shaped like bitcoins [20:28]
rg i trust smicklse [20:28]
jcpham 20 ounces of silver [20:28]
mircea_popescu and tits. [20:28]
mircea_popescu with bitcoin tattoos. [20:28]
rg for long standing acts of trustworthyness [20:28]
jcpham the mail lady just dropped something in my lap [20:28]
rg im waiting for some shit in the mail [20:29]
rg but its coming from cali [20:29]
jcpham smickles is supremo A #1 tops [20:29]
mircea_popescu i think mickey carver is like the most competent accountant active with btc atm. [20:29]
rg probably wnot be here today [20:29]
mircea_popescu rg : can't you just get some local shit ? [20:29]
mircea_popescu visit the proctologist clinic, they usually keep a supply. [20:30]
jcpham ooh and 3 grams of gold [20:30]
jcpham weak [20:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 300 @ 0.00384 = 1.152 BTC [+] [20:31]
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rg no [20:33]
rg they dont have local vendors [20:33]
rg for e-cig shit [20:33]
rg if they did i would use them [20:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [ABM] 2 @ 0.249 = 0.498 BTC [+] [20:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [ABM] 5 @ 0.24987999 = 1.2494 BTC [+] [20:33]
mircea_popescu o you use those water vapour things ? [20:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [ABM] 3 @ 0.24988 = 0.7496 BTC [+] [20:33]
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mircea_popescu ok i fail to follow this nanotube [20:43]
mircea_popescu "BTCST has the right to change the terms of its outstanding deposits at any time, as long as there is advance notice of at least 30 calendar days." [20:43]
mircea_popescu vs [20:43]
mircea_popescu "Since the existing ToS includes the provision for pirate's ability to change interest rates "with notice", this latest change in interest rates does not violate the terms of the bet contract, even though it did not itself have a 30 day notice. The term "interest rates" was only used as an example of terms that may change in ToS; the list of examples was not intended to be either exhaustive or necessarily-inclusive. The point of the [20:43]
mircea_popescu ToS changes section and advance notice thereof, was to make sure that users are given ample notice for any unexpected material changes." [20:43]
nanotube basically, the existing tos said pirate can change interest rates upon notice. [20:43]
mircea_popescu of 30 days or more. [20:43]
nanotube no, existing tos did not specify 30 days [20:43]
nanotube so by changing rates, he's not changing the tos [20:44]
nanotube because that's already included in the tos. [20:44]
mircea_popescu o wait. [20:44]
mircea_popescu i see what you mean. [20:44]
jcpham i've been expecting falling rates the whole time [20:44]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, the contract you said says [20:44]
mircea_popescu terms of its outstanding deposits [20:44]
jcpham not sure what the big deal is [20:44]
mircea_popescu and not [20:44]
mircea_popescu terms of service [20:44]
jcpham it only effects lenders [20:44]
mircea_popescu so while the guy didn't change the terms of service... he did change the terms of its outstanding deposits. [20:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTCASS_BOND_A] 1 @ 0.1489 BTC [+] [20:46]
mircea_popescu course coupled with the dissolution clause it'd seem your interpretation follows the spirit of the agreement [20:47]
mircea_popescu nevertheless the letter of it was borkt. [20:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.A] 80000 @ 0.001 = 80 BTC [20:52]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5264 @ 0.00113271 = 5.9626 BTC [+] [20:54]
BTC-Mining I see... [20:55]
BTC-Mining That's why I never do anything personal at work [20:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P160T] 1 @ 0.41128695 BTC [-] [21:00]
jcpham mircea_popescu's site is epic [21:00]
jcpham most of the women are promised to me already however [21:01]
imsaguy2 so why was I getting highlighted? [21:01]
imsaguy2 coming out as CIO? [21:01]
imsaguy2 wtf? [21:01]
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mircea_popescu lol which site ? [21:01]
jcpham imsaguy2 tag [21:01]
mircea_popescu there's nothing wrong with being cio imsaguy2 [21:01]
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assbot [GLBSE] [SYNERGY] 2 @ 0.19 = 0.38 BTC [+] [21:03]
imsaguy2 smickles does all the heavy lifting [21:04]
imsaguy2 I just watch to make sure they pay once in a while [21:04]
jcpham you can tell we are long because we go by the month [21:04]
jcpham this week shit is too much [21:05]
* mircea_popescu wonders if jcpham had a few drinks. [21:05]
jcpham smoke a few valerian roots [21:05]
mircea_popescu or that [21:05]
jcpham get yerr hair did gurrrl [21:05]
imsaguy2 hay gurl hay [21:06]
jcpham get da ice on ya pinky ring [21:06]
jcpham gurlfrend [21:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 5 @ 0.1199 = 0.5995 BTC [+] [21:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] [21:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 2 @ 0.43389999 = 0.8678 BTC [+] [21:10]
imsaguy2 573 pounds of butter were used on Julia Child's show “Baking with Julia.” [21:11]
mircea_popescu how much cheap wine ? [21:11]
nanotube mircea_popescu: yea, i'm no lawyer, so the agreement is not foolproof. but the spirit of the bet is about pirate honoring his obligations and actually being in possession of user funds [21:12]
nanotube so i'm not going to decide the bet on minor technicalities [21:12]
mircea_popescu yeah. i can see that. tho the litigant in me... :D [21:12]
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imsaguy2 I think nanotube was bought out [21:14]
imsaguy2 he's no longer impartial [21:14]
imsaguy2 impeach [21:14]
nanotube <_< [21:15]
nanotube heh [21:15]
mircea_popescu im just jealous he's making 100 btc on this deal :D [21:15]
imsaguy2 its only 1% [21:15]
mircea_popescu ya, 1% of enough money to buy all the bitcoin magazines wright will ever print in his lifetime. [21:17]
imsaguy2 heh [21:18]
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Diablo-D3 good porn or bad porn? [22:26]
Diablo-D3 oh, I have enough of that already [22:27]
mircea_popescu haha EskimoBob, just the man i wanted to see. [22:28]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=B.MPCD.A how's that look to you then ? :D [22:29]
Diablo-D3 what language is that? [22:29]
mircea_popescu english ? [22:30]
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Diablo-D3 silly romanians [22:30]
Diablo-D3 romaniachan lawlz [22:31]
mircea_popescu wth you on aboot ? [22:31]
smickles < ciuciu_> Hey smickles: Do you know Mircea is running a porn site? << is that supposed to be a bad thing? [22:31]
mircea_popescu ahahaah WHAT THE FUCK [22:31]
mircea_popescu let me spare the dood some work, apparently he's not just misguided but also inept [22:32]
smickles ciuciu_: I only ask because you've been in the habit recently of trying to discredit MP [22:32]
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mircea_popescu here, i also beat up on women : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-mosu-cu-joarda/ http://polimedia.us/trilema/2011/cum-se-bate-femeia/ [22:33]
mircea_popescu fucking hayseed, discovered the internet yesterday has no clue about what's what. [22:33]
smickles I will be on the record of making the assertation that porn is not bad because it is art [22:33]
mircea_popescu porn is not bad because that's how ciuciu's mom raised her children. [22:33]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 9300 @ 0.00112827 = 10.4929 BTC [-] [22:34]
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smickles mircea_popescu: that first link is one of my favorite pictures. it tells such an interesting story in my mind [22:34]
mircea_popescu all stories with an obedient pair of girls in them are interesting. [22:35]
mircea_popescu i think it may be the definition of interesting. [22:35]
smickles ciuciu_: did you bring up the issue of a porn site for any particular reason? [22:35]
Diablo-D3 who? [22:36]
smickles that's more of a statement [22:36]
Diablo-D3 because I dont think anyone has the tits for it [22:36]
smickles what's it matter if he is? [22:36]
mircea_popescu this chan is so very surreal. [22:36]
smickles indeed [22:36]
smickles Diablo-D3: google poliboobs, he's got the tits [22:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [MU] 1 @ 0.4999 BTC [+] [22:37]
Diablo-D3 nothx [22:37]
mircea_popescu whoa apparently there's a politits blogspot. [22:37]
smickles ciuciu_: i don't thing spamming the info the MP runs a porn site will harm his reputation [22:37]
smickles s/thing/think/ [22:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.99999999 = 10 BTC [+] [22:38]
smickles honestly, ciuciu_, you might risk harming your own reputation, depending on how you go about doing it [22:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 1.0479 = 2.0958 BTC [+] [22:38]
mircea_popescu what porn site i run ? [22:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 8 @ 1.048 = 8.384 BTC [+] [22:38]
smickles ciuciu_: he doesn't use the forums [22:38]
smickles if your talking about bitcointalk.org [22:39]
smickles mircea_popescu: you got a bitcointalk account recently? [22:39]
mircea_popescu nope ? [22:39]
smickles ciuciu_: i'm fairly sure that's his hireling [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P150T] 2 @ 0.31958972 = 0.6392 BTC [-] [22:40]
smickles orly [22:40]
mircea_popescu o.- puts are starting to move a little. [22:40]
smickles ok [22:40]
mircea_popescu wonder if top is in. [22:40]
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smickles ciuciu_: if it is his girlfriend's account, how come you are claiming he uses the forum? [22:41]
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smickles ciuciu_: then you understand that you just commited the non sequitor fallacy? [22:42]
smickles (sp?) [22:42]
mircea_popescu sequitur [22:43]
smickles thank you mp :) [22:43]
mircea_popescu it wasn't me it was my gf [22:43]
smickles english as my native language may have harmed my ability to spell in latin [22:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 4 @ 1.069 = 4.276 BTC [+] [22:43]
smickles lol [22:44]
smickles ciuciu_: also http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem [22:44]
smickles about the porn site bit [22:44]
smickles heh, now you're posting stuff that came from my own thread [22:45]
smickles i've seen that [22:45]
mircea_popescu i think you'll have to show id. [22:45]
smickles iirc, mp has told me that he used to live in 'merica, but moved becaus of the comming financial fallout [22:46]
smickles mircea_popescu: so your gf doesn't speak romanian and has poor knowledge of romanian according to ciuciu_ [22:48]
mircea_popescu except i dont have a gf. [22:48]
smickles i feel like i'm learning stuff today :P [22:49]
mircea_popescu lol [22:49]
Diablo-D3 the thing is though [22:49]
Diablo-D3 that chan? [22:49]
Diablo-D3 the romanian one? [22:49]
Diablo-D3 why is there no good porn on it [22:49]
mircea_popescu o, the dtng thing is the topic ? [22:49]
mircea_popescu prolly cause you're not adding it Diablo-D3 [22:49]
Diablo-D3 my art is simply not safe for human consumption [22:50]
Diablo-D3 er, collection of art [22:50]
smickles Diablo-D3: has kitty porn? [22:50]
mircea_popescu heck do you do, cuisinart porn ? [22:50]
Diablo-D3 smickles: no [22:50]
Diablo-D3 no furry [22:50]
smickles cuisinart porn, lol [22:50]
mircea_popescu (smicks, is cuisin art porn ?) [22:50]
Diablo-D3 its mostly just mindfuck porn that is hilarious to post on g-rated boards. [22:51]
Diablo-D3 its not "porn", you dont fap to it [22:51]
Diablo-D3 you fuck people in the eyesocket with it [22:51]
smickles to me, the word 'porn' is like the pejorative form of 'gay' [22:51]
smickles so 'gay porn' just puts me thru the ringer [22:51]
mircea_popescu to me porn is like a contraction of popcorn [22:52]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: that only makes sense if its dolcett porn [22:52]
mircea_popescu i think there's some dolcett somewhere on dtng [22:52]
mircea_popescu heck, there was a merkley??? thread i think [22:52]
Diablo-D3 orly? url [22:52]
mircea_popescu d'uh, i have no ideea lol. it is ugc after all. [22:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+] [22:53]
Diablo-D3 nothing hotter than a woman learning how the sausage is made. [22:53]
smickles ciuciu_: i don't see that link as having any meaning in the context of this conversation [22:53]
Diablo-D3 man, I just made a hilarious joke [22:54]
Diablo-D3 and virtually no one in here got it [22:54]
smickles sorry D [22:54]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/107.html something like that [22:54]
smickles ciuciu_: i'm sorry, but i just don't believe that right now [22:55]
smickles ciuciu_: i would very much want to see evidence that MP was going to scam me or my operations out of btc [22:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.99133 = 3.9653 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 30 @ 0.99133 = 29.7399 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 2 @ 0.031 = 0.062 BTC [+] [22:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FZB.A] 115 @ 0.03 = 3.45 BTC [-] [22:57]
smickles lol, why should i give a fuck if he's a dubious character? [22:58]
mircea_popescu how the fuck am i dubious. [22:58]
smickles mircea_popescu: you run a porn site? [22:58]
smickles "just saying" [22:58]
smickles lol [22:58]
smickles that's the basis of your argument? [22:58]
mircea_popescu lol. actually, i used to produce the stuff, back the previous millenium when it still made money. [22:59]
smickles ciuciu_: so this is an emotional reaction? [22:59]
smickles it doesn't look like it has stopped [22:59]
smickles can you clearly point out evidence of MP doing something bad? [23:00]
smickles not shady or dubious, wierd, etc [23:01]
smickles ciuciu_: you are welcom to say anything you want [23:01]
smickles but if you want me to believe you, you'll need evidenc and sound argumnetation [23:01]
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smickles lol, argumentation?, i meant a cogent/sound argument [23:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 49 @ 0.1 = 4.9 BTC [-] [23:02]
smickles ciuciu_: that I should not interact with MP at the significant risk of loss [23:03]
smickles ciuciu_: accusations mean noting if they did not come to a 'conviction' [23:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 10 @ 0.122999 = 1.23 BTC [+] [23:03]
smickles so then you are out to harm someone for personal reasons? [23:04]
smickles that's not a very good thing to do [23:04]
smickles i've forgotten, what did mp do to you? [23:04]
smickles i've heard that the pr lady pointed out that ciuciu is akin to saying jack shit or something like that [23:05]
smickles .o ud markak [23:05]
markac ENOTFOUND [23:05]
smickles it wouldn't be found by markak would it [23:06]
smickles ciuciu_: lol, so he pointed out that your name meant something bad in another language, and you're upset at him? [23:06]
smickles that is 'him' in your mind [23:07]
smickles ciuciu_: psy already did that [23:07]
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smickles ciuciu_: if you do that in my thread, i will likely and simply point out that you haven't presented me with significant evidence of wrongdoing on the part of MP, or any indication that it puts the fund or its shareholders at risk [23:10]
* smickles goes back to accounting [23:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 800 @ 0.00384 = 3.072 BTC [+] [23:13]
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kakobrekla ah [23:17]
kakobrekla still MP vs CC [23:17]
mircea_popescu hm ? [23:17]
kakobrekla well i came back online several hours later and its still/again MP vs CC talk [23:17]
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kakobrekla i dont see much of a point in any of this [23:18]
smickles ciuciu_: btw, good luck in your endeavors. [23:18]
mircea_popescu i think smickles is havign fun lol [23:18]
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smickles mircea_popescu: i think it's important to pursue possible information that may foreshadow harm to myself or the shareholders of mpoeetf or ss [23:19]
smickles my personal pleasure in the action is masturbatory [23:20]
mircea_popescu hehehe okay [23:20]
smickles hey, doesn't that word just mean self-pleasing, yet otherwise pointless? [23:20]
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mircea_popescu sorta [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.0003965 = 2.6566 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 4 @ 0.99989999 = 3.9996 BTC [+] [23:21]
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smickles huh, the internet seems to disagree [23:22]
smickles well, that seems to not be the word I intended to use [23:23]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.1 = 10 BTC [-] [23:23]
mircea_popescu lol [23:24]
mircea_popescu thesaurus backfire [23:24]
smickles i don't recall where i (thought that I) learned that word, but i don't think it was a thesaurus [23:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 53 @ 0.105 = 5.565 BTC [+] [23:25]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 49 @ 0.05899998 = 2.891 BTC [+] [23:26]
mircea_popescu maybe it was a very ellaborate prank. [23:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 11 @ 0.05899999 = 0.649 BTC [+] [23:26]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.105 BTC [+] [23:27]
smickles well, then someone needs to cop up to it, i'm sure i owe them a drink [23:28]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [-] [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [B.MPCD.C] 25000 @ 0.001 = 25 BTC [23:34]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.99989999 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 9 @ 1.45 = 13.05 BTC [-] [23:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-PI] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [+] [23:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [TEEK.PPT] 4 @ 1.7889 = 7.1556 BTC [-] [23:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.105 = 1.05 BTC [+] [23:38]
kakobrekla so.,, insured pirate bonds cdo anyone? [23:39]
copumpkin how would that work? they'd all default at the same time [23:40]
copumpkin oh, insured [23:40]
copumpkin sorry :) [23:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla make sure you mix the insurers well. [23:43]
kakobrekla umm [23:43]
kakobrekla id rather see someone else do it [23:43]
mircea_popescu copumpkin has a point, they're not such great matter for a cdo cause of high catastrophe chance. [23:43]
copumpkin it'd still be somewhat more interesting than uninsured CDO :P [23:43]
copumpkin but possibly not much more [23:43]
kakobrekla well i guess the whole point of it is who will payout and who wont [23:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 2 @ 0.99989999 = 1.9998 BTC [+] [23:44]
DeaDTerra GIPPT dividend incoming :) [23:44]
kakobrekla if default happens [23:44]
mircea_popescu the ideea is if one goes the 2nd likely also goes [23:44]
mircea_popescu and so the benefits of cdo-ing aren't so notable. [23:44]
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kakobrekla well [23:44]
mircea_popescu copumpkin you never said what you thought of my cds! [23:44]
kakobrekla maybe yes maybe no [23:44]
copumpkin I don't think I saw them! [23:44]
copumpkin I've been very absent :) [23:44]
mircea_popescu o rly ? [23:44]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=B.MPCD.A [23:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.99999999 = 7 BTC [+] [23:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.104 = 2.08 BTC [-] [23:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.102 = 2.04 BTC [-] [23:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.101 = 0.505 BTC [-] [23:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 32 @ 0.1001 = 3.2032 BTC [-] [23:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.1001 = 5.005 BTC [-] [23:47]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 73 @ 0.1 = 7.3 BTC [-] [23:47]
DeaDTerra Anyone want to buy ASICMINER shares?^^ [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 3 @ 1 = 3 BTC [+] [23:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 8 @ 0.99999999 = 8 BTC [+] [23:51]
kakobrekla wheres the pump on asicminer [23:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [23:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 20 @ 0.05899999 = 1.18 BTC [+] [23:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.059 = 0.59 BTC [+] [23:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 10 @ 0.059 = 0.59 BTC [+] [23:56]
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