Forum logs for 14 Sep 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10242 @ 0.0034 = 34.8228 BTC [+] [00:00]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 mpex-style. [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23933 @ 0.00039296 = 9.4047 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28131 @ 0.00039296 = 11.0544 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.0999 = 0.999 BTC [-] [00:09]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 13 @ 0.0999 = 1.2987 BTC [-] [00:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0034 BTC [+] [00:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.0999 = 0.7992 BTC [-] [00:13]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: as long as we dont have a south korean singing this its fine [00:27]
mircea_popescu lol [00:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 16 @ 0.0999 = 1.5984 BTC [-] [00:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 20999 @ 0.00019 = 3.9898 BTC [-] [00:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 20999 @ 0.00019 = 3.9898 BTC [-] [00:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14269 @ 0.00039296 = 5.6071 BTC [-] [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7686 @ 0.00039292 = 3.02 BTC [-] [00:34]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 20999 @ 0.00019 = 3.9898 BTC [-] [00:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 20999 @ 0.00019 = 3.9898 BTC [-] [00:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 25000 @ 0.00019 = 4.75 BTC [-] [00:39]
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Diablo-D3 nefario still hasnt fixed the motion [00:43]
Diablo-D3 I think hes lost all credibility at this point [00:43]
Diablo-D3 ;;later tell obsi msg me [00:44]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:44]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.11479864 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.70995 BTC [+] [00:49]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [-] [00:55]
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kakobrekla hehe last black dynamite is awesome [00:59]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 20300 @ 0.000485 = 9.8455 BTC [+] [00:59]
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assbot [GLBSE] [RSM] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [+] [01:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.11479863 = 0.4592 BTC [-] [01:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [-] [01:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.BVPS] 5 @ 0.0045 = 0.0225 BTC [+] [01:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [RAREEARTH] 2 @ 0.00955 = 0.0191 BTC [+] [01:11]
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sgornick mircea_popescu: Why are there asks listed for O.BTCUSD.C100T ? (and where has the volume for options gone?) [01:23]
sgornick or why are there *no* asks for O.BTCUSD.C100T [01:23]
mircea_popescu well, prolly the bot got bought out [01:23]
mircea_popescu it only has a limited qty of contracts to sell. [01:23]
mircea_popescu and im not sure what you mean about volume ? [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29921 @ 0.00039358 = 11.7763 BTC [+] [01:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32565 @ 0.00039363 = 12.8186 BTC [+] [01:24]
sgornick Well, I guess adding up the monthly volume totals it is strong, just visually the charts any of the call options looks sparse. Lot more PUT options. [01:27]
sgornick Someone must see something I don't. [01:27]
mircea_popescu sgornick i gave up trying to comprehend wtf with the option buys months ago. [01:27]
mircea_popescu but there's something like 30k contracts sold this month, which is i think a little more than last [01:28]
mircea_popescu people tend to gang on them towards end, less time value [01:28]
Bugpowder Are these binary options? [01:30]
Bugpowder settles at 1BTC if over, 0 if under? [01:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 5 @ 0.0998 = 0.499 BTC [-] [01:31]
Bugpowder Onevermind I found the info page [01:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.0998 = 0.1996 BTC [-] [01:34]
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assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 20 @ 0.0329 = 0.658 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 19 @ 0.03299999 = 0.627 BTC [+] [01:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 41 @ 0.033 = 1.353 BTC [+] [01:38]
Bugpowder !ticker gigamining [01:39]
assbot [GLBSE:GIGAMINING] [Bid: 0.6001] [Ask: 0.6179] [Spread: 0.0178] [Last: 0.6001] [24hVol: 44.63959] [7dAvg: 0.62654595] [01:40]
Bugpowder !ticker f.giga.etf [01:40]
assbot [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00039054 / 0.00041822 / 0.000485 (1066594 shares, 446.08 BTC), 30day: 0.00030644 / 0.00077549 / 0.00113797 (13994946 shares, 10,853.01 BTC) [01:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.0959 = 0.2877 BTC [+] [01:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36935 @ 0.00039292 = 14.5125 BTC [-] [01:50]
Bugpowder !ticker cognitive [01:53]
assbot [GLBSE:COGNITIVE] [Bid: 0.6] [Ask: 0.6338] [Spread: 0.0338] [Last: 0.55] [24hVol: ] [7dAvg: 0.55625294] [01:53]
Bugpowder !ticker btc-mining [01:53]
assbot [GLBSE:BTC-MINING] [Bid: 0.87] [Ask: 0.995] [Spread: 0.125] [Last: 0.996] [24hVol: 19.92] [7dAvg: 0.96058] [01:53]
Bugpowder !ticker YABMC [01:53]
assbot [GLBSE:YABMC] [Bid: 0.0907] [Ask: 0.10735] [Spread: 0.01665] [Last: 0.1074] [24hVol: 39.9959] [7dAvg: 0.10900774] [01:53]
Bugpowder !ticker FPGAMINING [01:53]
assbot [GLBSE:FPGAMINING] [Bid: 0.635] [Ask: 0.70995] [Spread: 0.07495] [Last: 0.70995] [24hVol: 41.21495] [7dAvg: 0.76700514] [01:53]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.0034 = 0.0238 BTC [+] [01:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.0998 = 0.2994 BTC [-] [02:13]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.0999 = 0.2997 BTC [+] [02:14]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5915 @ 0.00048371 = 2.8611 BTC [-] [02:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1031 @ 0.00039363 = 0.4058 BTC [+] [02:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41094 @ 0.00039465 = 16.2177 BTC [+] [02:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5008 @ 0.00039473 = 1.9768 BTC [+] [02:15]
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assbot [GLBSE] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.6338 = 4.4366 BTC [+] [02:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.114798 = 0.3444 BTC [-] [02:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.4945 BTC [-] [02:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 3 @ 0.495 = 1.485 BTC [+] [02:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 1600 @ 0.00047591 = 0.7615 BTC [-] [02:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 7 @ 0.034 = 0.238 BTC [+] [02:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIB.PIRATE] 1 @ 0.048 BTC [+] [02:49]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.03652199 = 0.2557 BTC [+] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.03669202 = 0.1101 BTC [+] [02:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 3 @ 0.03669202 = 0.1101 BTC [+] [02:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3892 @ 0.00039473 = 1.5363 BTC [+] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16261 @ 0.00039475 = 6.419 BTC [+] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 7200 @ 0.0004688 = 3.3754 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 32000 @ 0.00046868 = 14.9978 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 5800 @ 0.00041282 = 2.3944 BTC [-] [03:15]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 5 @ 0.03669202 = 0.1835 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 14 @ 0.0372078 = 0.5209 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 7 @ 0.03999999 = 0.28 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.04 = 0.4 BTC [+] [03:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 2 @ 0.355 = 0.71 BTC [+] [03:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 40 @ 0.37 = 14.8 BTC [+] [03:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.C] 5 @ 0.398 = 1.99 BTC [+] [03:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [03:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00039331 = 9.8328 BTC [-] [03:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2793 @ 0.00039292 = 1.0974 BTC [-] [03:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 807 @ 0.0003929 = 0.3171 BTC [-] [03:41]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 1 @ 0.5552 BTC [+] [03:44]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.10735 BTC [-] [03:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.0003929 = 4.6362 BTC [-] [04:06]
Diablo-D3 _wow_ [04:09]
Diablo-D3 nefario just ended glbse [04:09]
Diablo-D3 in one single post [04:09]
Diablo-D3 thats just wow [04:09]
copumpkin ? [04:10]
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Diablo-D3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=77469.msg1189206#msg1189206 [04:10]
smickles ?! [04:10]
Diablo-D3 thats just insane [04:10]
Diablo-D3 does he even realize what he wrote? [04:11]
smickles oh, i thought you were saying that he was shutting down [04:13]
Diablo-D3 no [04:13]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [12:47]
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Chaang-Noi lol smoovious [13:03]
Chaang-Noi glbse was more than just pirate, however it turns out most of glbse was pirate so i guess maybe not [13:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21856 @ 0.00039529 = 8.6395 BTC [-] [13:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 3 @ 0.07 = 0.21 BTC [-] [13:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGA.CONTRACT] 2 @ 0.0661 = 0.1322 BTC [-] [13:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.699999 = 2.8 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 3 @ 0.6002 = 1.8006 BTC [-] [13:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.1195 BTC [+] [13:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [13:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1006 @ 0.00039584 = 0.3982 BTC [+] [13:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47377 @ 0.00039585 = 18.7542 BTC [+] [13:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8317 @ 0.00039607 = 3.2941 BTC [+] [13:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.555 = 1.11 BTC [+] [13:33]
Chaang-Noi i wonder how many non mining operations are going to default [13:38]
Chaang-Noi or rather not default [13:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.0995 BTC [-] [13:41]
PsychoticBoy mining operation which defaults isn`t really a mining company ;) [13:46]
PsychoticBoy its a scam that way [13:47]
PsychoticBoy pay with other assets div and tell ppl you own hardware [13:47]
Chaang-Noi well whatever diablo was doing was yeah crazy [13:49]
Chaang-Noi mining comapny and then turn it into a ponzi [13:49]
Chaang-Noi but the other people should not fail i woud hope [13:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28173 @ 0.00039529 = 11.1365 BTC [-] [13:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4698 @ 0.00039489 = 1.8552 BTC [-] [13:56]
mircea_popescu depends how the asic runs go. [13:59]
OneMiner If I was investing in a mining company and they were buying GPUs or FPGAs right now..... That's a bit worse don't you think? Buying up non-ASIC hardware would be a waste of money. [14:01]
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OneMiner Even back then... That would be my gamble, I'd hedge for ASICs big time. [14:03]
OneMiner Easy to say now.... [14:03]
OneMiner I agree, buying up singles seems like it would have been a good move. [14:05]
OneMiner The real test is when they will ship. First to market has such an advantage. [14:06]
Chaang-Noi EB250 D3 sold his stock and bought that obsi thing, i agree it has not been proven to be a ponzi but yeah... it does not look good for a mining company [14:07]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 20 @ 0.02693108 = 0.5386 BTC [+] [14:08]
Chaang-Noi tygrr tech one of the oldest mining operations on glbse 1.0 is selling off its hardware, let me know if you guys need an old tech :) [14:08]
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Chaang-Noi yeah, i want to set up an operation on there but i cant pay out in btc [14:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 27 @ 0.02624383 = 0.7086 BTC [-] [14:08]
Chaang-Noi the value would be based in the real world [14:08]
Chaang-Noi smoovious you just got a dividend :) and more will come as i sell hardware [14:09]
Chaang-Noi you can sell it for .1 btc if you wish [14:10]
OneMiner I'm bummed, I don't think I'll be ordering an ASIC right away... Cost is just too much. [14:10]
Chaang-Noi i wont buy asic until i see it is real [14:10]
Chaang-Noi and i will never buy from bfl [14:10]
OneMiner Ya, that's too much too. :( [14:10]
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OneMiner Ya, reclamer, modminer, ect. [14:11]
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OneMiner I really like that they intend to drop around the same time. Makes me think that the mining ecosystem could turn out ok. And that makes Vlad less of an issue. [14:12]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P010T] 27 @ 0.01601091 = 0.4323 BTC [-] [14:12]
OneMiner Go for it, the more retailers the better. I'm selling signed jerseys right now. [14:13]
OneMiner Ya, I'm convinced that people WANT to spend bitcoins! They get excited and probably talk to people who may scoff. Show off some gear, the fruits of the labor. [14:15]
OneMiner Yup. That's a pretty cool reason to start reselling if you are not in N. America or something. [14:18]
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OneMiner Ya, not you in this example.... I'm guessing it's not such an issue to buy American gear. [14:18]
OneMiner There's a ton of value in that for bitcoin. It's suited so well for international transactions. [14:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [METAL.SILVER] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [14:20]
OneMiner That's sortta my deal with the jerseys. I'm a middleman. [14:21]
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Chaang-Noi i sold of a lot of mining cards [14:27]
Chaang-Noi what does it mean if the hdd is clicking like 5 to 7 times and nothing will load [14:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 4 @ 0.1 = 0.4 BTC [+] [14:28]
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Chaang-Noi like get to the mainboar bios screen and freeze [14:28]
JWU42 bad [14:28]
Chaang-Noi bad hdd or bad mb? [14:28]
JWU42 clicking hdd is likely bad hdd [14:28]
Chaang-Noi yeah it spins [14:28]
Chaang-Noi so its the hdd? [14:29]
JWU42 try spinrite on it if you need to recover data [14:29]
JWU42 might take a few days [14:29]
Chaang-Noi i dont need the data, its just a mining rig [14:29]
JWU42 ahh - k [14:29]
Chaang-Noi but odds are its the hdd [14:29]
Chaang-Noi thing is i took it to the shop and they got it running [14:29]
OneMiner Chaang-Noi Can you see the SMART data? [14:29]
Chaang-Noi now i can [14:29]
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Chaang-Noi what is the controller? [14:30]
Chaang-Noi something inside the hdd? [14:30]
JWU42 on the MB [14:30]
Chaang-Noi i dont know what SMART data is oneminer [14:30]
OneMiner The SMART test is run at boot. BIOS may have info from that test. [14:30]
Chaang-Noi all i see is the msi logo and it locks up [14:30]
OneMiner Ooo [14:31]
Chaang-Noi i hate to take it back to the shop again after they spent an hour trying to fix it and then got it up and running... [14:31]
Chaang-Noi ahh grrr [14:31]
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OneMiner I suggest booting from a live CD and trying some kind of diagnostic. [14:32]
Chaang-Noi its been down for 2 months [14:32]
Chaang-Noi im trying to get them ready to sell on the market [14:32]
Chaang-Noi as used gaming rigs [14:32]
Chaang-Noi oh fucl [14:32]
Chaang-Noi its starting windows! [14:33]
Chaang-Noi after like 5 mins [14:33]
Chaang-Noi kill it? [14:33]
Chaang-Noi what why? [14:33]
Chaang-Noi oh lol [14:33]
JWU42 his attempt at humor [14:33]
OneMiner hahaha [14:33]
Chaang-Noi yeah i have windows7 on there [14:33]
OneMiner I [14:33]
Chaang-Noi selling it to gamers [14:33]
OneMiner I <3 Win7 [14:33]
Chaang-Noi but damn, why did it take 5 mins to load up? [14:33]
JWU42 the drive [14:34]
JWU42 more than likely [14:34]
Chaang-Noi oh so the drive is just bad? [14:34]
JWU42 bad sectors perhaps [14:34]
Chaang-Noi hmm [14:34]
Chaang-Noi im going to reboot see what happens [14:34]
Chaang-Noi well its thailand and it gets fucking hot here [14:35]
OneMiner Throwing errors, error check takes up some time. You should scan it for whatever. [14:35]
Chaang-Noi wow after i restarted it fine, not problem [14:35]
Chaang-Noi how do i check it? [14:36]
Chaang-Noi also anyway to know if it could just be me chaning the video cards? i did change a card or two in it [14:36]
OneMiner You can do a surface scan in windows. There's other software on the net too. [14:36]
OneMiner Ya, that SMART one should be small and fast. It's a very good idea to check the SMART data. [14:37]
Chaang-Noi okay [14:37]
Chaang-Noi and what if i find it has some bad stuff, what then? [14:37]
Chaang-Noi take back the hdd? [14:37]
OneMiner Yup, or use it for skeet shooting. [14:37]
Chaang-Noi hmmm okay [14:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3899 @ 0.00039489 = 1.5397 BTC [-] [14:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1033 @ 0.00039442 = 0.4074 BTC [-] [14:38]
Chaang-Noi atleast i know what the issue is [14:38]
Chaang-Noi not knowing and trying to fix something just kills me inside [14:38]
Chaang-Noi was testing the cards, the ram, the psu lol [14:38]
Chaang-Noi im not really good at this stuff [14:39]
Chaang-Noi im trained in business admin... [14:40]
OneMiner Chaang-Noi you got crazy insano low prices or what? [14:40]
Chaang-Noi what do you mean oneminer? [14:40]
Chaang-Noi okay ill look into it, right now it seems to be fine [14:40]
OneMiner Well, the gear you are selling. I'm wondering how "priced to sell" they are. [14:40]
OneMiner +1 [14:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [GOLD] 100 @ 0.00989 = 0.989 BTC [+] [14:41]
OneMiner Shipping two ways, total waste of time. [14:41]
OneMiner Linky to selling thread? [14:42]
OneMiner hahaha true. All my gear is a frankenstien collection partially assembled with elecrical tape. [14:43]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREASIC] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [-] [14:44]
OneMiner Ya, too bad. Sounds neat. Never heard of a radio tuner card. Check out the... what do you call it? Multiple freq radio on a chip? [14:45]
Chaang-Noi dont ahve a sell thread yet guys, and it is not fire sale yet [14:47]
Chaang-Noi and shipping from thailand sucks lol [14:47]
OneMiner I'm looking for what the damn thing is acually called. It's very cool. It hops freqs quickly and you can get a picture of many Mhz worth of traffic. [14:48]
Chaang-Noi good luck [14:48]
OneMiner See ya. [14:48]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BAKEWELL] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [+] [14:52]
OneMiner That's what I need. A nice fire sale, preferably of ASICs (somehow). [14:54]
Chaang-Noi man a 6970 i just got in is broken :( [15:01]
Chaang-Noi it is DOA :( [15:01]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.6076 = 4.2532 BTC [+] [15:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 63 @ 0.00900001 = 0.567 BTC [-] [15:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 3 @ 0.08710001 = 0.2613 BTC [-] [15:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 45 @ 0.0871 = 3.9195 BTC [-] [15:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 27 @ 0.087 = 2.349 BTC [-] [15:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.0867 BTC [-] [15:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 4 @ 0.08665 = 0.3466 BTC [-] [15:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 21 @ 0.0865 = 1.8165 BTC [-] [15:16]
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kakobreklaa mornin [15:27]
Enky hi [15:28]
kakobreklaa heya [15:28]
kakobreklaa how is it [15:28]
Enky fine [15:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36200 @ 0.00039666 = 14.3591 BTC [+] [15:28]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.10149999 = 0.203 BTC [+] [15:29]
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BTC-Mining What's the thing with DMC being seized? [15:45]
OneMiner Lot's of drama, hurt feelings. There's some stuff in the DMC thread about it. [15:46]
BTC-Mining I thought Diablo had gone insane when he started to trade mhash against mhash... when selling market and buying market would have been a better deal to get mhash. [15:48]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.1009 BTC [-] [15:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 13 @ 0.099 = 1.287 BTC [-] [15:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 760 @ 0.098 = 74.48 BTC [-] [15:50]
mircea_popescu well, incompetent people winging it. [15:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 786 @ 0.098 = 77.028 BTC [-] [15:51]
OneMiner OT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AadlbBus2Z0&NR=1&feature=endscreen 28:30 I likey. [15:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 400 @ 0.098 = 39.2 BTC [-] [15:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10917 @ 0.00039651 = 4.3287 BTC [-] [15:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18125 @ 0.00039442 = 7.1489 BTC [-] [15:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00039392 = 7.5633 BTC [-] [15:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15158 @ 0.00039366 = 5.9671 BTC [-] [15:54]
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OneMiner Seems one thing is without question, the way DMC was defined in the beginning didn't specifically allow for buying up a bunch of bonds. [15:54]
mircea_popescu well, i'm sure to mention this to all my married friends [15:57]
mircea_popescu seeing how their marriage contract doesn't specifically allow for anal sex. [15:57]
OneMiner lol [15:58]
mircea_popescu but yes, other than that the correct thing to do upon the ipo failure was to return investor funds. [15:58]
Bugpowder no [15:58]
OneMiner I acutally don't fault the buys he made (total noob here, don't listen to a word I say). But it does seem that nefario has the autority to do whatever. [15:59]
mircea_popescu somehow this doesn't occur to anyone as a path to take. [15:59]
mircea_popescu OneMiner his buys were insane. it's completely unclear whereof does nefario get any authority. [15:59]
mircea_popescu he's pr. [15:59]
Bugpowder it was if satoshidice took the money then traded it all for some promising stakes in new competitors that have not been coded yet [15:59]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder well erik is perfectly within his right to spend his money on w/e he wants, he'sselling his own stake. different thing altogether. [16:00]
OneMiner nefario can influence these things. Who can stop him? It's up to him to define GLBSE too right? [16:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 2 @ 0.24 = 0.48 BTC [-] [16:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITNODES] 6 @ 0.2449 = 1.4694 BTC [+] [16:00]
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mircea_popescu ya well these'd all be problems of teh global scam exchange, im sure they sort it out eventually [16:03]
mircea_popescu to the greater drama ofcourse. [16:03]
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OneMiner I do find it problematic that one person can sieze assets and shut people down on a whim essentially. [16:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-A] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-] [16:04]
mircea_popescu i don't. [16:04]
mircea_popescu what i find problematic is that random joe blow with no competence in any field does it. [16:05]
mircea_popescu take the example of this seizure : it was perfectly warranted and poorly implemented (or w/e, horribly communicated) [16:05]
OneMiner Anybody can open a lemonaid stand. If it tastes good or has nails in it is due to the person running it. To stop people you'd have to put some kind of filter in place that whouldn't work out very well I think. [16:06]
OneMiner Wut? No way! lol [16:06]
* OneMiner is a criminal on the run! [16:07]
mircea_popescu in practice if "anyone can open a lemonade stand" the net result is a spiral of doom, poorer and poorer quality. [16:08]
OneMiner Now I have to move to South America to evade capture. Maybe the IRS will be after me too now. lulz [16:08]
mircea_popescu hence the apparition of lemon laws. [16:08]
mircea_popescu you know what those are ? [16:08]
Chaaang-Noi nefario shut me down, locked my account cuz he assumed i was a scammer [16:08]
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BTC-Mining He locked it down for investigation... so long as he unlocks it afterward unless something is not as it should. [16:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22658 @ 0.0003935 = 8.9159 BTC [-] [16:19]
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kakobrekla omg [16:40]
kakobrekla usagi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=109415.msg1190429;topicseen#msg1190429 [16:40]
kakobrekla havent even started to read [16:41]
kakobrekla aha [16:41]
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assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 39 @ 0.131 = 5.109 BTC [-] [16:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 50 @ 0.1301 = 6.505 BTC [-] [16:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [JAH] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [-] [16:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00039325 = 8.3369 BTC [-] [16:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8358 @ 0.00039314 = 3.2859 BTC [-] [16:46]
kakobrekla yea [16:46]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 7 @ 0.6189 = 4.3323 BTC [+] [16:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 307 @ 0.0033994 = 1.0436 BTC [+] [16:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 279 @ 0.0033995 = 0.9485 BTC [+] [16:56]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.619 = 4.952 BTC [+] [16:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.69995 BTC [-] [16:57]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.61948 = 2.4779 BTC [+] [17:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00039396 = 6.6185 BTC [+] [17:11]
BTC-Mining like? [17:15]
BTC-Mining I prefer doing finances. [17:18]
BTC-Mining I'm not interested in CPA =/ [17:18]
kakobrekla who did you hire [17:18]
BTC-Mining I think it insures too much for too low rates. [17:18]
kakobrekla meh [17:18]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 9 @ 0.61948 = 5.5753 BTC [+] [17:19]
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kakobrekla mp says low rates are investing in market share [17:31]
kakobrekla ;> [17:31]
mircea_popescu who's mp ? [17:33]
jcpham u negro [17:34]
mircea_popescu so what did i say ?! [17:34]
jcpham mircea_popadopalous [17:34]
mircea_popescu lol [17:34]
jcpham pimp #1 [17:34]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13476286536.jpg <<< dun mess with me or you'll have to face her. [17:35]
jcpham damn [17:36]
jcpham i thought i was going to die for a second looking at that [17:36]
mircea_popescu "die for a second", french way of saying blowing your load. [17:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11980 @ 0.00039666 = 4.752 BTC [+] [17:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00039679 = 6.4677 BTC [+] [17:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12983 @ 0.0003968 = 5.1517 BTC [+] [17:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1237 @ 0.00039704 = 0.4911 BTC [+] [17:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.1198 = 5.99 BTC [+] [17:37]
jcpham you can ignore me EskimoBob, I won't mind at all. In fact, I insist. [17:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.0099 BTC [-] [17:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.00999999 = 0.05 BTC [+] [17:39]
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assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.035 BTC [-] [17:58]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 1 @ 0.035 BTC [-] [17:58]
copumpkin I only do bermudan options [17:59]
mircea_popescu and only with girls ? [17:59]
Chaang-Noi .035 [18:00]
Chaang-Noi not even 8 cents traded [18:00]
copumpkin Chaang-Noi: so do you still think I'm a terrible person? [18:00]
Chaang-Noi i never said that, i said i was disapointed [18:00]
Chaang-Noi and sad [18:00]
Chaang-Noi and i am [18:01]
copumpkin lol [18:01]
copumpkin you still haven't told me why [18:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15652 @ 0.00039396 = 6.1663 BTC [-] [18:02]
copumpkin pfft, black scholes is so last century [18:02]
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assbot [GLBSE] [MMM] 1 @ 1 BTC [+] [18:07]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 14 @ 0.99999999 = 14 BTC [+] [18:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [YARR] 17 @ 1 = 17 BTC [+] [18:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5000 @ 0.0034 = 17 BTC [+] [18:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 34900 @ 0.000415 = 14.4835 BTC [+] [18:19]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 6800 @ 0.00041699 = 2.8355 BTC [+] [18:19]
assbot [MPEX] [F.GIGA.ETF] 3300 @ 0.00041923 = 1.3835 BTC [+] [18:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 7 @ 0.09800001 = 0.686 BTC [+] [18:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2774 @ 0.098 = 271.852 BTC [-] [18:19]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.09800001 = 0.588 BTC [+] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2280 @ 0.098 = 223.44 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 110 @ 0.0975 = 10.725 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.097 = 4.85 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.09600001 = 0.96 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 135 @ 0.096 = 12.96 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.095952 = 0.2879 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0951 = 9.4149 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.0901 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 13 @ 0.08999999 = 1.17 BTC [-] [18:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 37 @ 0.09 = 3.33 BTC [+] [18:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 269 @ 0.09 = 24.21 BTC [+] [18:22]
BTC-Mining RAH [18:23]
BTC-Mining GLBSE is getting slow again [18:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1089 @ 0.00900001 = 9.801 BTC [-] [18:25]
MoneyIsDebt doesn't obsi sell at 0.1 [18:25]
MoneyIsDebt ah [18:26]
MoneyIsDebt who sold just now [18:26]
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MoneyIsDebt someone sold a couple of thousand [18:27]
mircea_popescu then bought a coupla thousand. [18:27]
MoneyIsDebt it's the highest volume stock right now? [18:27]
mircea_popescu !ticker obsi.hrpt [18:28]
assbot [GLBSE:OBSI.HRPT] [Bid: 0.09000001] [Ask: 0.1] [Spread: 0.00999999] [Last: 0.09] [24hVol: 1,552.71804084] [7dAvg: 0.09557662] [18:28]
mircea_popescu yeah seems pretty high for glbse [18:28]
mircea_popescu i still don't know what it actually does. [18:28]
MoneyIsDebt nobody knows [18:28]
mircea_popescu so pirate rehash ? [18:28]
MoneyIsDebt it's a better scheme than pirate though [18:28]
MoneyIsDebt look at how many bonds are issued [18:29]
MoneyIsDebt he can keep going forever [18:29]
mircea_popescu im kinda lazy [18:29]
mircea_popescu "forever" as in, a few months, a coupla years maybe ? [18:29]
MoneyIsDebt well, the contract states he may change interest down to 0% [18:29]
MoneyIsDebt so forever as in ... forever [18:30]
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MoneyIsDebt "Estimated coupon payouts are 0% to 1% per day" [18:30]
MoneyIsDebt Security issued:10000000 [18:30]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.9899 BTC [+] [18:30]
mircea_popescu lol 1mn btc ? right [18:30]
MoneyIsDebt seems legit [18:30]
MoneyIsDebt it's a bit higher than the collective trust in glbse , I'd wager [18:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [KRAKEN] 1848 @ 0.00900001 = 16.632 BTC [-] [18:31]
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assbot OBSI.HRPT [1@0.1BTC] paid: 0.059745 BTC. Last price: 0.09 BTC. Capital gain: -0.01 BTC. Total: 0.049745 BTC. (49.7%) [18:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITCOINMINV] 71 @ 0.127 = 9.017 BTC [+] [18:32]
MoneyIsDebt splits/ [18:32]
MoneyIsDebt ? [18:32]
MoneyIsDebt glbse can split now? [18:32]
mircea_popescu no ideea [18:32]
mircea_popescu tho at the rate it's paying out i doubt your "forever". [18:33]
BTC-Mining yes, there was a split on one asset [18:33]
MoneyIsDebt well forever as in bitcoin terms [18:34]
MoneyIsDebt a couple of months or so [18:34]
BTC-Mining where each asset owned got multiplied by 10 or 100 or whatever. [18:34]
MoneyIsDebt I actually made money on BMF [18:35]
mircea_popescu soo, anyone want to lend me a coupla million obsi.hrpt for 3 months ? [18:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABIF] 3 @ 0.99 = 2.97 BTC [-] [18:36]
MoneyIsDebt It doubles in 3 months doesn't it, at the interest it's paying. So you'd have to pay full buying price to loan them. [18:36]
MoneyIsDebt Okay my math is off [18:36]
MoneyIsDebt usagi: yeah, back in may [18:38]
MoneyIsDebt .. which will increase difficulty and lower the value of the holdings? [18:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 20 @ 0.09 = 1.8 BTC [+] [18:40]
MoneyIsDebt You probably wouldn't affect difficulty that much by yourself [18:40]
MoneyIsDebt The trick is to trigger the next big wave in bitcoin [18:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 2 @ 0.0873 = 0.1746 BTC [-] [18:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 4 @ 0.0873 = 0.3492 BTC [-] [18:41]
MoneyIsDebt which will be when profit from fees exceed the block reward [18:41]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.003399 = 0.0102 BTC [-] [18:41]
MoneyIsDebt well, something might cause fees to increase [18:42]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.003399 = 0.0136 BTC [-] [18:42]
MoneyIsDebt if miners form a union f.ex. [18:42]
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MoneyIsDebt or the pools do [18:42]
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assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 28 @ 0.0917 = 2.5676 BTC [-] [18:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3348 @ 0.00039332 = 1.3168 BTC [-] [18:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12963 @ 0.00039704 = 5.1468 BTC [+] [18:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00039716 = 13.3446 BTC [+] [18:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11774 @ 0.00039793 = 4.6852 BTC [+] [18:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 9 @ 0.09000001 = 0.81 BTC [+] [18:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.08819013 = 0.3528 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 10 @ 0.08782041 = 0.8782 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 24 @ 0.08696412 = 2.0871 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.0864171 = 0.5185 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.086 = 0.258 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 18 @ 0.0850111 = 1.5302 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 3 @ 0.0850111 = 0.255 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.085 = 2.55 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 4 @ 0.6195 = 2.478 BTC [+] [18:45]
MoneyIsDebt guess it worked - dump, and now the wall is gone [18:45]
MoneyIsDebt was this the market manipulation you were talking about, usagi? [18:47]
MoneyIsDebt but now the bond is yielding 8.24% a week [18:49]
MoneyIsDebt with daily payouts [18:49]
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MoneyIsDebt I'd be surprised if nobody buys at this point [18:49]
Lucidize How come it's hovering below 0.1? [18:49]
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MoneyIsDebt because obsi can sell 10000000 of them at any time [18:51]
Lucidize oh I see, didn't notice that before [18:52]
Lucidize So how many of the 10 mil shares have been issued? [18:52]
BTC-Mining I guess because people are expecting it to close doors? [18:52]
kakobrekla nobody has any coin [18:53]
Lucidize Just over 50,000>? oh [18:53]
BTC-Mining https://glbse.com/api/quantity_trading/OBSI.HRPT [18:53]
BTC-Mining Indeed, or around 5000 BTC [18:54]
MoneyIsDebt hmm, there's a post saying he won't issue more this sunday [18:54]
BTC-Mining Good. [18:54]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla nobody who throws money around at "investments" has any coin left. they who have coin don't "invest" in non-investments. [18:55]
mircea_popescu its how teh free market works. [18:55]
Lucidize and another @ 0.1 /1461 [18:57]
BTC-Mining Mass sellers brings more mass sellers. [18:58]
BTC-Mining I suppose everyone invested thinks it's a ponzi and as such, no demand, no cash flow, no more div. Runaway time. [18:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [CPA] 1 @ 0.033 BTC [+] [18:59]
MoneyIsDebt hmm, roughly, if it's a ponzi, he could still pay out for about 14 weeks [19:00]
MoneyIsDebt even if he doesn't sell more bonds [19:00]
mircea_popescu yea but from a game theory perspective [19:00]
MoneyIsDebt if he keeps paying, I'm sure some buying will happen for the return [19:00]
MoneyIsDebt thus allowing it to continue [19:00]
mircea_popescu the only incentive for a ponzi scammer to make a payout is the notion that he's going to skip ion a larger one later. [19:00]
MoneyIsDebt for a pure one yes [19:01]
mircea_popescu yeah. [19:01]
MoneyIsDebt but who's to say he doesn't reinvest the money [19:01]
mircea_popescu into something very lucrative that we can't be told about ? [19:01]
mircea_popescu ofcourse he does. [19:01]
MoneyIsDebt if he does he can prolong it even more [19:01]
mircea_popescu you prolly missed my sarcasm. [19:02]
DeaDTerra How do I leave a message to someone that's not online? [19:02]
coingenuity ;;later tell [19:02]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell name message [19:02]
MoneyIsDebt ;;later tell MoneyIsDebt I told you so [19:02]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:02]
DeaDTerra ;;later tell Nefario Don't forget my candy bar^^ [19:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:03]
DeaDTerra ;;later tell Nefario1 Don't forget my candy bar^^ [19:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:03]
DeaDTerra thanks [19:03]
BTC-Mining mircea, he technically told how the money was used, although if that's true or even feasible is questionable. [19:03]
DeaDTerra He owes me a candy bar :) [19:03]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 15 @ 0.00012682 = 0.0019 BTC [+] [19:04]
mircea_popescu BTC-Mining he did ? [19:04]
mircea_popescu maybe i missed it. [19:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [DMC] 3 @ 0.035 = 0.105 BTC [-] [19:04]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 2 @ 0.09989997 = 0.1998 BTC [+] [19:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09989997 BTC [+] [19:06]
MoneyIsDebt ^^ Rally! [19:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 5 @ 0.0872 = 0.436 BTC [-] [19:06]
Bane_Capital lol [19:08]
Bane_Capital The bids are piling up on CPA, usagi [19:09]
Bane_Capital Unless [19:09]
Bane_Capital that's you? :P [19:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7801 @ 0.00039497 = 3.0812 BTC [-] [19:10]
assbot [GLBSE] [BMMO] 6 @ 0.076889 = 0.4613 BTC [-] [19:10]
Bane_Capital Indeed. [19:10]
BTC-Mining You were selling matthew-default contracts? [19:11]
BTC-Mining damn [19:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [DI.BFLSC.FAIL] 15 @ 0.001 = 0.015 BTC [+] [19:12]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 1000 @ 0.10508971 = 105.0897 BTC [+] [19:12]
Bane_Capital BTC-Mining: She didn't know Matthew before so... [19:12]
Bane_Capital I can't blame her all too much. [19:12]
Bane_Capital Matthew can be pretty charming at first sight [19:13]
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Bane_Capital I mean, he suckered me into DCAO [19:13]
Bane_Capital and almost had me work for free [19:13]
Bane_Capital like a lot of his writers. [19:13]
Bane_Capital "Rewards will come eventually." [19:13]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 5 @ 0.6901 = 3.4505 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 28 @ 0.69 = 19.32 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.65515 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.6551 = 1.9653 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.655 BTC [-] [19:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [-] [19:14]
BTC-Mining I bet 10k BTC, I didn't think he'd pay up, but I was 100% sure pirate wasn't going to pay. [19:14]
Bane_Capital That's when he didn't give any stock to the people who actually make the magazine possible. [19:14]
BTC-Mining As such betting 1 BTC or 1 million BTC carried the same risk in my opinion. [19:14]
Bane_Capital I started to doubt him when he got into the $300,000 territory. [19:15]
Bane_Capital He's such a child. [19:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 2 @ 0.035 = 0.07 BTC [+] [19:16]
Bane_Capital usagi: I can only imagine him running red lights in his suzuki right now. [19:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.0191 BTC [-] [19:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.0192 BTC [+] [19:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [SS] 1 @ 0.0193 BTC [+] [19:17]
Bane_Capital SS is highly spoken of [19:18]
Bane_Capital I don't know what it is though [19:18]
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mircea_popescu iirc it was a partnership between smickles and some other guy to run a sort of arb bot [19:19]
Bane_Capital I am now remembering why I didn't finish this movie [19:19]
Bane_Capital It's boring as hell [19:19]
Bane_Capital Arbitrage is too hard to pull off [19:19]
Bane_Capital Mt. Gox pretty much has a monopoly [19:20]
Bane_Capital Until it gets too strained [19:20]
Bane_Capital It will continue to have it [19:20]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130N] 1 @ 0.3880117 BTC [+] [19:21]
mircea_popescu well what can i tell you. [19:21]
BTC-Mining yeah, SS was the stock that was split by 100x [19:21]
BTC-Mining So reinvesting was easier [19:21]
Bane_Capital SS should of just promised to buy back profits [19:21]
Bane_Capital That would of been more efficient of a move [19:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [THUNDERCM.MIF.SHARES] 9 @ 0.3917 = 3.5253 BTC [-] [19:22]
Bane_Capital E.g. use a total divided to buyback shares at a price of principal + profit [19:22]
gribble Obsi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 10 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105506.0 [19:22]
Bane_Capital dividend* [19:22]
Bane_Capital People are so dependent on dividends. [19:22]
Bane_Capital Share value has no meaning to them. [19:22]
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assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.5552 = 1.1104 BTC [+] [19:31]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 1 @ 1.42989 BTC [+] [19:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.1198 = 5.99 BTC [+] [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 48 @ 0.11999899 = 5.76 BTC [+] [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 2 @ 0.637 = 1.274 BTC [-] [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.6366 = 3.8196 BTC [-] [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 3 @ 0.6365 = 1.9095 BTC [-] [19:36]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.632 = 2.528 BTC [-] [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6315 BTC [-] [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 4 @ 0.6301 = 2.5204 BTC [-] [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [BIF.1YR.LOAN] 1 @ 0.90384615 BTC [-] [19:37]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4001 = 2.8002 BTC [-] [19:38]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 10 @ 1.4 = 14 BTC [-] [19:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24893 @ 0.00039793 = 9.9057 BTC [+] [19:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.6601 = 3.9606 BTC [+] [19:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.66 = 6.6 BTC [-] [19:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 10 @ 0.65 = 6.5 BTC [-] [19:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 8 @ 0.64 = 5.12 BTC [-] [19:46]
Bane_Capital Haha, I couldn't of said it better. [19:48]
Bane_Capital People tend to focus on the short-term [19:48]
Bane_Capital and not the long-term integrity of the investment vehicle [19:48]
mircea_popescu well share value has no value to them because most things purporting to be shares aren't. [19:49]
Bane_Capital Hm, I guess you could say mining turds are raw investments but with all the risk attached [19:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 118 @ 0.11999998 = 14.16 BTC [+] [19:54]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 110 @ 0.11999999 = 13.2 BTC [+] [19:54]
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assbot [GLBSE] [BFLS.RIG] 3 @ 0.8 = 2.4 BTC [-] [19:56]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.11999999 = 3.24 BTC [+] [19:59]
Bane_Capital So people are not breaking even on these? [19:59]
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assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [20:00]
assbot GIGAMINING [1@1.25BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.6195 BTC. Capital gain: -0.6305 BTC. Total: -0.18732404 BTC. (-15%) [20:00]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.11999999 = 0.36 BTC [+] [20:01]
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MoneyIsDebt what does that command really show though, when you don't include a date [20:02]
Bane_Capital Oh wow [20:02]
BTC-Mining Eskimo, they were sold for 1 BTC on IPO [20:02]
assbot !pl [@] [] [20:02]
BTC-Mining !pl GIGAMINING 1 [20:02]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [20:02]
assbot GIGAMINING [1@1BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.6195 BTC. Capital gain: -0.3805 BTC. Total: 0.06267596 BTC. (6.3%) [20:03]
MoneyIsDebt not really relevant unless you bought at day 1 then [20:03]
MoneyIsDebt remember, at day 1 it's priced by the issuer [20:03]
MoneyIsDebt later, the market has priced it [20:04]
Bane_Capital Exactly his point. The initial investors are screwed [20:04]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.1202 BTC [+] [20:04]
BTC-Mining Hmm, maybe it was at 1.25, but I thought it was IPOed at 1 [20:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 1 @ 0.12011001 BTC [-] [20:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 2 @ 0.12011 = 0.2402 BTC [-] [20:05]
MoneyIsDebt !pl JAH 200@0.1 2012-06-12 [20:05]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [20:05]
assbot JAH [200@0.1BTC] (since: 2012-06-12) paid: 10.26878 BTC. Last price: 0.13 BTC. Capital gain: 6 BTC. Total: 16.26878 BTC. (81.3%) [20:05]
MoneyIsDebt hmm, I'm still doing okay on mining [20:06]
MoneyIsDebt granted, I bought on a dip [20:06]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.09467999 BTC [+] [20:07]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [20:07]
assbot JAH [1@BTC] paid: 0.08647365 BTC. Last price: 0.13 BTC. Capital gain: 0.13 BTC. Total: 0.21647365 BTC. (-100%) [20:07]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [20:07]
assbot JAH [1@0.3BTC] paid: 0.08647365 BTC. Last price: 0.13 BTC. Capital gain: -0.17 BTC. Total: -0.08352635 BTC. (-27.8%) [20:07]
BTC-Mining In any case, most fixed bonds loss is due to the fact USD/BTC price raised a lot and thus, difficulty is catching on and the value of the equipment (in BTC) halved, since BTC now buys twice the mhash equipment. [20:07]
MoneyIsDebt and reward will drop [20:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [20:08]
MoneyIsDebt heh, no bids on JAH though [20:09]
MoneyIsDebt so even with my "good" purchase, I can't liquidate [20:09]
BTC-Mining Not because mining bonds are inherently bad, but because any raise in USD per BTC undermines the bond values a lot. [20:09]
BTC-Mining Not since the last 6 months, since the last 3 months [20:09]
Bane_Capital MoneyIsDebt: It has no backing. It might as well be worthless. [20:09]
MoneyIsDebt what do you mean no backing? [20:10]
MoneyIsDebt I've seen pictures of the rigs [20:10]
MoneyIsDebt they could be bullshit of course [20:10]
BTC-Mining since btc price started going up fast in June [20:10]
MoneyIsDebt but so could anything on glbse [20:10]
Bane_Capital An active price of something someone is willing to pay at a moment's notice [20:10]
BTC-Mining http://bitcoindifficulty.com/ < see how it start raising fast in June [20:11]
BTC-Mining http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg180ztgSzm1g10zm2g21zv [20:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.331 BTC [+] [20:11]
assbot [GLBSE] [BITBOND] 1 @ 0.331 BTC [+] [20:11]
BTC-Mining See how it coincides with the BTC price raise [20:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00039789 = 5.5307 BTC [-] [20:11]
MoneyIsDebt nothing much else that provably makes a bitcoin income though [20:12]
MoneyIsDebt so what to invest in? [20:12]
BTC-Mining before that difficulty was slowly rising, often dropping as much as it raised. [20:12]
jcpham Bane_Capital i read all your forum threads [20:12]
Bane_Capital jcpham: Feel free to express your opinion. [20:13]
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jcpham sorry, no can do [20:13]
jcpham http-radio-silence [20:13]
Bane_Capital jcpham: So I assume you disapprove. [20:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [BLUECHIP] 4 @ 0.0600001 = 0.24 BTC [-] [20:14]
MoneyIsDebt Bane_Capital: Isn't part of the problem that with X bitcoins, you can only place X bids on glbse? You can't place X bids on all the stuff you're interested in. So liquidity is lower than it could be. [20:14]
BTC-Mining Yeah, but my point is, if USD/BTC price stays stable, mining bonds become good. Unfortunatly, BTC is deflationary, which is bad for mining bonds. [20:14]
jcpham it is not my job to approve or disapprove sir [20:14]
BTC-Mining If BTC was inflationary, I'd say buy mining bonds. [20:14]
MoneyIsDebt EskimoBob: But real life business doesn't grow as fast as the btc/usd price, thus it's still a turd [20:15]
Bane_Capital MoneyIsDebt: How does it work in other stock exchanges? [20:15]
jcpham generally speaking, yes i disapprove of the bitcointalkforums and the community that supports, it yes [20:15]
jcpham some have labeled me social darwinist [20:15]
MoneyIsDebt You place bids on whatever you want. If a bid is met, the bids you can't afford anymore are reduced to whatever funds you have. [20:15]
jcpham although i have no clue what that means [20:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 2 @ 0.48 = 0.96 BTC [-] [20:16]
assbot [GLBSE] [MOORE] 1 @ 0.45 BTC [-] [20:16]
Bane_Capital MoneyIsDebt: Nefario needs to be made aware of that. [20:16]
MoneyIsDebt He is [20:16]
MoneyIsDebt He tried to implement it [20:16]
MoneyIsDebt but had to roll back [20:16]
MoneyIsDebt I'm sure it'll come at some point [20:17]
BTC-Mining [13:12] so what to invest in? [20:17]
BTC-Mining I pay 0.5% weekly, fixed. Loan based, no devaluation. [20:17]
MoneyIsDebt BTC-Mining: What ticker? [20:17]
BTC-Mining It is a bond. And one which respects the true meaning of the term "bond". [20:18]
BTC-Mining It's a bond. [20:18]
BTC-Mining loan* [20:18]
BTC-Mining BTC-BOND [20:18]
BTC-Mining https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGFKVlAtZVAzOGNqS1Brd05MUlFlT2c [20:20]
BTC-Mining Use this spreadsheet and links on it to get more information. I think it's exhaustive enough. [20:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 23 @ 0.12 = 2.76 BTC [+] [20:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.12 = 0.36 BTC [+] [20:23]
MoneyIsDebt yeah, looks good [20:24]
MoneyIsDebt I'll invest at some random time to hide the fact that it's me [20:24]
MoneyIsDebt :) [20:24]
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BTC-Mining Well I have to keep it at 200% of loan in assets, so because of variations in price, I'll try and keep it under that. [20:25]
MoneyIsDebt Haven't you seen him on cam4btc? [20:26]
MoneyIsDebt Gets loads of tips [20:26]
gigavps ooooooo [20:26]
gigavps sounds exciting [20:26]
BTC-Mining The assets on the spreadsheet, trading, exchanging. Sometimes I trade on MtGox a bit, when something happens (like the pirate default). [20:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.00999999 = 10 BTC [+] [20:27]
BTC-Mining Probably because I take on almost all the risks. If any asset makes a loss, I have to eat it up on my share of the portfolio. [20:29]
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BTC-Mining aye [20:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20533 @ 0.00039793 = 8.1707 BTC [+] [20:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15734 @ 0.00039835 = 6.2676 BTC [+] [20:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17064 @ 0.00039851 = 6.8002 BTC [+] [20:36]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 34 @ 0.1161 = 3.9474 BTC [-] [20:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.116 = 2.32 BTC [-] [20:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.115 BTC [-] [20:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.1199 = 0.7194 BTC [+] [20:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 392 @ 0.12 = 47.04 BTC [+] [20:52]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.12 = 2.04 BTC [+] [20:52]
Bane_Capital Just finished Atlas Shrugged the movie. It wasn't too bad. Clearly low budget but not bad. [20:59]
Bane_Capital I understand why most people would be bored by it. [20:59]
assbot [GLBSE] [CIUCIU.BOND] 12 @ 0.11 = 1.32 BTC [+] [21:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26004 @ 0.00039851 = 10.3629 BTC [+] [21:02]
assbot [GLBSE] [JTME] 2 @ 0.65 = 1.3 BTC [+] [21:04]
Bane_Capital No, some say he named himself after the book [21:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [NYAN.B] 1 @ 0.9899 BTC [+] [21:05]
Bane_Capital which he didn't [21:05]
Bane_Capital Usagi: I think you might enjoy it. Basically it's about industry leaders going on strike. [21:05]
Bane_Capital It's television quality besides that [21:06]
Bane_Capital yeah. [21:06]
Bane_Capital That's why most people hate it. [21:06]
Bane_Capital They are making a part 2 right now. [21:06]
Bane_Capital It has a Pirate in it. [21:06]
Bane_Capital So a bit of a fun bit there. [21:06]
Bane_Capital http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlas_Shrugged_characters#Ragnar_Danneskj.C3.B6ld [21:07]
MoneyIsDebt It's not really about industry leaders going on strike though [21:09]
MoneyIsDebt It's about increased regulation forcing those leaders to take their business elsewhere [21:10]
MoneyIsDebt Like all manufacturing being moved to china and taiwan [21:10]
MoneyIsDebt or software being outsourced to India [21:10]
MoneyIsDebt to put it in a more modern setting than the book [21:10]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [21:10]
gribble Best bid: 11.66001, Best ask: 11.66222, Bid-ask spread: 0.00221, Last trade: 11.66, 24 hour volume: 38845, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.66 [21:10]
Bugpowder nice delay there [21:10]
MoneyIsDebt (which is recommended over the movie btw) [21:10]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [21:11]
gribble Best bid: 11.69, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 11.75, 24 hour volume: 40042, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75 [21:11]
DeaDTerra Anyone here that's going to the conference tomorrow? :D [21:11]
MoneyIsDebt What conference? [21:12]
DeaDTerra www.bitcoin2012.com [21:14]
DeaDTerra London Bitcoin Conference [21:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.119899 = 0.7194 BTC [-] [21:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.12 = 0.48 BTC [+] [21:14]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 100 @ 0.0200001 = 2 BTC [-] [21:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [FOO.PPPPT] 4 @ 0.02 = 0.08 BTC [-] [21:15]
Enky ;;ticker [21:16]
gribble Best bid: 11.72138, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.02862, Last trade: 11.75, 24 hour volume: 40217, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75 [21:16]
MoneyIsDebt A bit far for me... [21:17]
MoneyIsDebt but it might push the price a bit [21:17]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.1124001 = 0.4496 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.11220133 = 1.122 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.11220121 = 1.122 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.11210121 = 1.121 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 25 @ 0.1121012 = 2.8025 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 45 @ 0.1120011 = 5.04 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.10960001 = 3.9456 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.10950001 = 2.19 BTC [-] [21:20]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.1095 = 2.19 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.1091 = 0.9819 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 30 @ 0.10900001 = 3.27 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.109 = 0.218 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.109 = 10.9 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.1085 = 0.217 BTC [-] [21:21]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.10696525 = 0.2139 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.10601 = 1.0601 BTC [-] [21:21]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.10511355 = 0.3153 BTC [-] [21:22]
MoneyIsDebt rally? [21:23]
MoneyIsDebt ;;ticker [21:23]
gribble Best bid: 11.711, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 11.711, 24 hour volume: 40340, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75 [21:23]
MoneyIsDebt ;;ticker [21:24]
gribble Best bid: 11.711, Best ask: 11.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 11.711, 24 hour volume: 40340, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.75 [21:24]
MoneyIsDebt ;;ticker [21:24]
gribble Best bid: 11.71, Best ask: 11.78098, Bid-ask spread: 0.07098, Last trade: 11.78098, 24 hour volume: 40555, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.799 [21:24]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 5 @ 0.139999 = 0.7 BTC [+] [21:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 42 @ 0.13999999 = 5.88 BTC [+] [21:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 39 @ 0.14 = 5.46 BTC [+] [21:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [GMVT-BOT] 8 @ 0.15 = 1.2 BTC [+] [21:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 2 @ 0.5553 = 1.1106 BTC [+] [21:26]
assbot [GLBSE] [NASTY] 8 @ 0.5553 = 4.4424 BTC [+] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13805 @ 0.00039851 = 5.5014 BTC [+] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00039858 = 1.7139 BTC [+] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24319 @ 0.00039878 = 9.6979 BTC [+] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7700 @ 0.00039878 = 3.0706 BTC [+] [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2376 @ 0.00039885 = 0.9477 BTC [+] [21:27]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 1260 @ 0.0034 = 4.284 BTC [+] [21:29]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.0034 = 0.1428 BTC [+] [21:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 6 @ 0.6195 = 3.717 BTC [+] [21:32]
MoneyIsDebt ;;asks 12 [21:32]
gribble There are currently 11135.246 bitcoins offered at or under 12.0 USD, worth 132960.36825 USD in total. [21:32]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 8 @ 0.61958 = 4.9566 BTC [+] [21:32]
MoneyIsDebt ;;asks 13 [21:32]
gribble There are currently 43475.871 bitcoins offered at or under 13.0 USD, worth 534979.043223 USD in total. [21:32]
MoneyIsDebt ;;bids 10 [21:33]
gribble There are currently 51206.932 bitcoins demanded at or over 10.0 USD, worth 555374.394154 USD in total. [21:33]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 26 @ 0.62 = 16.12 BTC [+] [21:33]
MoneyIsDebt !pl gigamining 0.58 [21:34]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [21:34]
MoneyIsDebt !pl gigamining 0.58 2012-08-10 [21:34]
Enky ;;ticker [21:34]
gribble Best bid: 11.721, Best ask: 11.72999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 11.72999, 24 hour volume: 40695, 24 hour low: 11.30112, 24 hour high: 11.799 [21:34]
Bugpowder All these people buying gigamining need to get an account on MPEX and buy from me at a 15% discount [21:34]
assbot GIGAMINING [1@0.58BTC] paid: 0.44317596 BTC. Last price: 0.62 BTC. Capital gain: 0.04 BTC. Total: 0.48317596 BTC. (83.3%) [21:34]
assbot Requesting data from GLBSE (might take a while, also might return fishy results as it does not account for splits etc). [21:34]
assbot GIGAMINING [1@0.58BTC] (since: 2012-08-10) paid: 0.07725 BTC. Last price: 0.62 BTC. Capital gain: 0.04 BTC. Total: 0.11725 BTC. (20.2%) [21:35]
Bugpowder ;;ticker F.GIGA.ETF [21:35]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low]) -- Return pretty-printed mtgox ticker. If one of the options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). [21:35]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.119799 = 0.4792 BTC [+] [21:35]
Bugpowder !help [21:43]
assbot List of commands: [21:43]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current GLBSE/MPEX ticker values) [21:43]
assbot !pl [@] [] (desc: profit loss calc for GLBSE assets) [21:43]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C110T] 5 @ 0.15483157 = 0.7742 BTC [-] [21:43]
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Bugpowder !ticker F.GIGA.ETF [21:44]
assbot [MPEX:F.GIGA.ETF] 1day: 0.00039054 / 0.00042374 / 0.000485 (871345 shares, 369.23 BTC), 30day: 0.00030644 / 0.000769 / 0.00113797 (13934052 shares, 10,715.35 BTC) [21:44]
assbot [GLBSE] [PUREMINING] 1 @ 0.08899999 BTC [-] [21:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [UDN] 1 @ 0.05493999 BTC [+] [21:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 1 @ 0.15 BTC [+] [21:50]
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Diablo-D3 meh [22:05]
Diablo-D3 whats with people today [22:05]
Diablo-D3 its like they let all the loonies out [22:05]
assbot [GLBSE] [GIGAMINING] 1 @ 0.62 BTC [+] [22:05]
Diablo-D3 one, outside the kansans city federal building, there might be a bomb inside the car of a self proclaimed terrorist [22:05]
Diablo-D3 two, a third american embassy was attacked over a troll video from a pcp addict [22:06]
Diablo-D3 third, intel announces their new atom cant run linux [22:07]
Diablo-D3 that means their ONLY market for low power x86 (tiny netbooks and >10" super tablets) cant actually run their product [22:08]
assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.11968989 = 0.3591 BTC [-] [22:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.00039818 = 11.0296 BTC [-] [22:08]
Diablo-D3 that new atom cant [22:09]
Diablo-D3 windows 8 only [22:09]
OneMiner Slashdot says they are lying. [22:09]
Diablo-D3 OneMiner: well [22:09]
Diablo-D3 if its related to the gpu [22:09]
Diablo-D3 and intel doesnt support it with their new driver stack [22:09]
Diablo-D3 then intel legitimately can claim it [22:09]
Diablo-D3 I dont think its drm related [22:10]
Diablo-D3 none of the news stories are saying why [22:10]
Diablo-D3 usagi: also [22:10]
Diablo-D3 if I were you [22:10]
Diablo-D3 I'd look for a ulv fusion if amd has them out in time [22:10]
OneMiner Ya, I'll bet they don't know. Intel just listed it like it's a feature and left it like that probably. [22:10]
Diablo-D3 no, I'd get laid, and then go back to being diablo [22:11]
Diablo-D3 not that again [22:11]
Diablo-D3 THERE ARE NO WOMEN ON THE INTERTUBES [22:12]
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OneMiner haha [22:12]
Diablo-D3 DOUBLY SO FOR THE BITCOIN COMMUNITY [22:12]
assbot [GLBSE] [RSM] 34 @ 0.3 = 10.2 BTC [+] [22:12]
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Diablo-D3 you're asian, you ALL look androgynous [22:13]
Bane_Capital Adrogyny is sexy [22:15]
OneMiner Anyone claiming to be female in the bitcoin community should do that with a doctors note if anybody is going to belive them. [22:15]
Bane_Capital To me at least. [22:15]
Diablo-D3 ffs, now intel claims they have jelly bean running on that new atom [22:15]
Bane_Capital It used to be in the 50s at least. [22:15]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 5 @ 0.00012682 = 0.0006 BTC [+] [22:16]
Diablo-D3 MAKE UP YOUR MIND INTEL [22:16]
Diablo-D3 EITHER YOU'RE IDIOTS OR IDIOTS [22:16]
Diablo-D3 CANT BE BOTH... oy wait [22:17]
Diablo-D3 jesus christ [22:18]
Diablo-D3 also, paul graham should quit faxing photos of his penis to google [22:19]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4001 = 2.8002 BTC [+] [22:22]
assbot [GLBSE] [HYDRO.BONDS] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [-] [22:23]
Diablo-D3 http://gigaom.com/cleantech/behold-apples-massive-solar-farm-from-the-sky-photos/ [22:24]
Diablo-D3 DO WANT [22:24]
OneMiner I hope the marines at the US embassys can just fire into crowds that are attacking them. Pass out the ammo! [22:24]
Diablo-D3 OneMiner: actually thats the massively hilarious part [22:25]
Diablo-D3 the libyan embassy had no marine protection [22:25]
Diablo-D3 at least 3 people were killed because of it [22:25]
OneMiner wtf serious? [22:25]
Diablo-D3 one of them a well known video game player [22:25]
Diablo-D3 http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in/ [22:26]
OneMiner I caught that. I had no idea. I thought they always had marines. [22:26]
Diablo-D3 _WTF_ [22:26]
Diablo-D3 fuck the terrorists, what the fuck is this shit [22:26]
OneMiner That is sick. It's years and years away though. They are probably messing with tiny little specs of that stuff. [22:26]
Bane_Capital I wouldn't classify them as terrorists. They are just mad, religious nutters. [22:27]
Diablo-D3 Bane_Capital: no [22:27]
Bane_Capital A terrorist is more organized. [22:27]
Diablo-D3 under US law they COULD be arrested for inciting violence [22:27]
Diablo-D3 since it happened on the embassy grounds, it happened inside the united states [22:27]
Bane_Capital Oh, the other people. [22:27]
Bane_Capital Oh nvm [22:27]
Diablo-D3 the film makers [22:27]
Diablo-D3 they can also be charged with the hate crime bonus round [22:28]
Diablo-D3 where we double their life sentences. [22:28]
OneMiner I think it's in very poor taste to make that movie or even the trailer. They should just drop this. But it's an important freedom. They'll never be prosecuted. [22:29]
OneMiner No [22:30]
Bugpowder 95% chance the superconductor story does not pan out. [22:30]
Diablo-D3 who knows [22:32]
Diablo-D3 it almost sounds like its naturally forming carbon nanofiber cyrstal chains [22:33]
OneMiner Have you seen the trailer? It's not even funny. It's just insulting, some of it sounded historicaly true but it's presented in a very biased way. [22:33]
Diablo-D3 we already know specially doped diamonds are conductors [22:33]
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Diablo-D3 OneMiner: mohammad had a loli fetish [22:33]
Diablo-D3 who cares, that was the norm back then [22:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10685 @ 0.00039818 = 4.2546 BTC [-] [22:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1515 @ 0.00039789 = 0.6028 BTC [-] [22:34]
OneMiner Diamod transistors are the shizz. I want a gigaflop grill. [22:34]
OneMiner He's stupid in the trailer too. It's obviously ment to make people angry. [22:35]
Diablo-D3 usagi: not really [22:36]
Bugpowder Diablo-D3: Sorry, that story smells like total horseshit. Flaky material, only works sometimes, no observation of resistance loss, etc etc I am upping it to 99.9% bullshit [22:36]
OneMiner I hate that too usagi. [22:36]
Diablo-D3 they proved they cant be trusted with nuclear reactors [22:36]
OneMiner It's so silly. [22:36]
Diablo-D3 they had a chance to shut this plant down 20 years ago [22:36]
Diablo-D3 they didnt [22:36]
Diablo-D3 they paid the price [22:36]
Diablo-D3 usagi: not really [22:36]
Diablo-D3 japan has GREAT coastal wind [22:36]
Diablo-D3 they could supply all their power needs with wind alone [22:36]
Diablo-D3 no gas or diesel anyhwere [22:37]
Diablo-D3 tokyo being lit up like new york, everything [22:37]
Diablo-D3 all wind [22:37]
OneMiner No, people don't understand. They think that non-nuclear is "green" because there won't be any fallout. [22:37]
Diablo-D3 OneMiner: nuclear IS green though [22:37]
OneMiner Yes, I think it is. But Joe Whatever from Japan thinks that they give him lung cancer. [22:38]
Diablo-D3 take all the nculear stuff in the world, including the worst accidents [22:38]
BTC-Mining usagi: solar might get cost effective very soon [22:38]
Bugpowder solar is close [22:38]
Diablo-D3 including both chernobyl and the concrete lake [22:38]
Diablo-D3 including both nuclear bombs and all the bomb testing [22:38]
Diablo-D3 _all of it_ [22:38]
BTC-Mining and potentially, fusion, although there's a load of improvements to be made before that happens. [22:38]
Diablo-D3 measure the radioactive output [22:38]
Diablo-D3 thats what coal does per year. [22:38]
Diablo-D3 coal outputs that much radioactive material per year. [22:39]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 25 @ 0.00339999 = 0.085 BTC [-] [22:39]
Diablo-D3 all the radiation with nuclear FOREVER is what coal does per year. [22:39]
Diablo-D3 also, solar already is cost effective [22:39]
OneMiner I agree still. The radiation released isn't at a dangerous level for the globe. Chernobyl was a very similar accident to Fukushima in a way, in that they ignored safety until it exploded in their faces. [22:39]
Diablo-D3 OneMiner: oh, its extremely dangerous [22:39]
Diablo-D3 people are getting cancer because of it [22:40]
Diablo-D3 cancer rates near coal plants is much higher than the norm [22:40]
Diablo-D3 now, to be fair, coal also causes cancer with several other emissions [22:40]
assbot [GLBSE] [YABMC] 1 @ 0.0999 BTC [+] [22:40]
Diablo-D3 so its not all radioactive related cancers [22:40]
OneMiner Yes, that's my understanding as well. I'd like to ban burning coal ASAP. Vote OneMiner for world dictator! [22:40]
BTC-Mining Diablo, it's cost effective in that it can bring a profit, but it's not in the sense that it's cheap to produce. [22:41]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: no, its actually cheap to produce [22:41]
Diablo-D3 problem is its the volume fucking companies [22:41]
Diablo-D3 plus the republicans throwing money at scams [22:41]
OneMiner You make em once and they keep producing for a long time. [22:41]
Diablo-D3 30 years. [22:41]
OneMiner Also you can build a more distributed grid that's resistant to black/brown outs. [22:42]
Diablo-D3 anyhow [22:42]
OneMiner With residential solar that is. [22:42]
Diablo-D3 why do you think I went with a solar/wind split for DMC? [22:42]
Diablo-D3 because I get the best of both worlds at a price cheaper than outright buying the electricity from the power company [22:43]
Diablo-D3 especially when you factor in the next 30 years of power price increases [22:43]
OneMiner It's clear that it would save money in the long run. [22:43]
Diablo-D3 ESPECIALLY when you realize they're mandated by law to buy power from me at retail prices [22:43]
OneMiner Fingers crossed for the tokamak. [22:43]
Diablo-D3 usagi: you know, no one knows how the largest shareholder is going to vote [22:45]
assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00339999 = 0.034 BTC [-] [22:46]
Diablo-D3 you're not the largest [22:46]
assbot [GLBSE] [BBBB] 100 @ 0.0002 = 0.02 BTC [+] [22:47]
Diablo-D3 someone out there has about 10k [22:47]
Diablo-D3 well, if you dont vote, thats just like voting yes because of how nefario wrote the motion [22:49]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012682 BTC [+] [22:52]
Diablo-D3 why do you think I wish I could find a way off glbse? [22:52]
OneMiner The voting is kept secret until the motion is finished? [22:53]
Diablo-D3 OneMiner: yes [22:53]
Diablo-D3 which is dishonest [22:53]
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gribble The operation succeeded. [22:57]
assbot [GLBSE] [TYGRR.BOND-P] 10 @ 0.035 = 0.35 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.00039789 = 6.0479 BTC [-] [22:59]
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assbot [GLBSE] [ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.11699999 = 1.17 BTC [-] [23:03]
BTC-Mining dishonest? All motions have no numbers shown until it's done... that's like saying you could see votes live during elections before voting is closed. Way to encourage/discourage people. [23:06]
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assbot [GLBSE] [GSDPT] 22 @ 0.0033999 = 0.0748 BTC [-] [23:13]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: but we CAN see voting numbers before elections are closed [23:13]
Diablo-D3 usagi: its up to you to vote, but if you vote yes now, you basically are telling everyone that you never believed in the plan and were just in it for the money [23:14]
Diablo-D3 Theres a difference between making money legitimately and being a greedy fuck. [23:16]
Diablo-D3 I like making my money legitimately, the question is which of those two do you want to be [23:16]
Diablo-D3 I dont care if you are or if you arent [23:16]
Diablo-D3 nyan and bmf's ass is on the line too [23:16]
Diablo-D3 anyone who has ever invested in dmc or dmc has invested in them, we're all going to sink or swim here [23:17]
Diablo-D3 yes, but will bmf shareholders write off bmf? [23:17]
assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 6 @ 0.65 = 3.9 BTC [+] [23:17]
Diablo-D3 I dont think you realize how honest and straightforward the community is. [23:18]
Diablo-D3 If you decide that you were in it just to be greedy, then why in hell would anyone invest in you ever again? [23:18]
Diablo-D3 usagi: I lost about 1000 BTC total in money. [23:18]
Diablo-D3 yes, I already said the fixed mhash bond shit was not my finest moment. [23:19]
Diablo-D3 nefario still has done nothing about it, and I simply dont care. [23:19]
Diablo-D3 usagi: yes, I may have helped collapse the market. [23:20]
Diablo-D3 but we'll never know [23:20]
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Diablo-D3 yes, but bmf's assets decreased the whole time [23:20]
Diablo-D3 usagi: yes, and then I handed the asicminer over to abmo for 0.10 of asicminer for 0.20 of abmo. [23:21]
Diablo-D3 I traded future profits for both future profits and profits now. [23:21]
Diablo-D3 while doubling the value of the asset [23:21]
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BTC-Mining Diablo-D3, 99% of the people are against you. The remaining 1% is yourself. Maybe you should requestion your methods. Most of your trades were at a loss comparing both asset's current market price. It might have been an increase in (or in potential) mhash/s. But the thing is, you'd have gotten more mhash/s selling at market price and buying the other at market price. [23:23]
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Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: nope [23:23]
Diablo-D3 because that assumes GLBSE has market liquidity [23:23]
Diablo-D3 it doesnt [23:23]
Diablo-D3 people cant sell out of their positions because no one is buying [23:24]
BTC-Mining liquidity is small but I usually manage to buy/sell at market rate. [23:24]
Diablo-D3 that means DMC would have had no investors [23:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2584 @ 0.00039789 = 1.0281 BTC [-] [23:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00039723 = 5.4023 BTC [-] [23:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8816 @ 0.00039652 = 3.4957 BTC [-] [23:24]
BTC-Mining I reckon other mining funds managed to buy/sell assets at market rate... [23:25]
Diablo-D3 BTC-Mining: no [23:28]
Diablo-D3 look at the assets that have no bids atm [23:28]
[\] lol [23:28]
[\] are you kidding? [23:28]
Diablo-D3 but the asks are 0.10 [23:28]
[\] there is no market depth [23:28]
[\] couple hundred shares in any asset could bring them to 0 [23:28]
Diablo-D3 neither of those represent the market rate (its about 0.01) [23:28]
Diablo-D3 imsaguy is right [23:29]
teek whatever happened to the glbse liquidty / reserve update [23:29]
Diablo-D3 teek: gone [23:29]
Diablo-D3 nefario never implemented it afaik [23:29]
teek he did implement it [23:29]
teek but it was buggy [23:29]
Diablo-D3 heh, nice =/ [23:29]
teek i saw it implemented for a cpl hours [23:29]
teek then it got rolled back [23:29]
Diablo-D3 So, I dunno [23:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1 @ 0.09949985 BTC [-] [23:30]
BTC-Mining That might be true, but when orders appear on the market (buy), they get filled. Just watch for one. [23:30]
Diablo-D3 I think if I remain CEO, I'll end the trade program [23:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 8 @ 0.09949985 = 0.796 BTC [-] [23:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 30 @ 0.09949986 = 2.985 BTC [+] [23:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 31 @ 0.09949999 = 3.0845 BTC [+] [23:30]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 6 @ 0.0995 = 0.597 BTC [+] [23:30]
Diablo-D3 its not worth the problems. [23:31]
[\] he rolled it out [23:31]
[\] and then all the bids got trashed [23:31]
[\] so he had to remove the changes [23:31]
teek that is basically the reason there is no liquidity on glbse [23:33]
teek even trading on the real markets [23:33]
teek you don't only bid for one thing with the same money [23:33]
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OneMiner Is there some kind of best practices or how to I can read? [23:43]
OneMiner Concerning investments. [23:43]
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assbot [GLBSE] [FPGAMINING] 1 @ 0.6976 BTC [+] [23:46]
teek EskimoBob: people keep saying that, but it isn't margin [23:48]
teek my normal brokerage account does not have margin [23:48]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 4 @ 0.15 = 0.6 BTC [+] [23:48]
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teek that doesn't mean i can't place a ton of bids on different things [23:48]
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assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.09949999 = 1.99 BTC [-] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 4 @ 0.0995 = 0.398 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.09969946 = 9.9699 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.09969947 = 9.9699 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 70 @ 0.09969999 = 6.979 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 50 @ 0.0997 = 4.985 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 141 @ 0.09989999 = 14.0859 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 100 @ 0.0999 = 9.99 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 99 @ 0.0999 = 9.8901 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 44 @ 0.09999997 = 4.4 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 20 @ 0.09999998 = 2 BTC [+] [23:49]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 252 @ 0.1 = 25.2 BTC [+] [23:49]
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gigavps i believe that's the way it works now [23:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1500 @ 0.00039885 = 0.5983 BTC [+] [23:49]
teek yes [23:49]
teek ive had a brokerage acct for approx 10 years [23:50]
teek it has always worked like that [23:50]
teek but it is a normal cash acct [23:50]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 816 @ 0.10803636 = 88.1577 BTC [+] [23:50]
assbot [GLBSE] [OBSI.HRPT] 1107 @ 0.1 = 110.7 BTC [+] [23:50]
teek if the market goes where i want on a particular issue, the order executes [23:50]
teek if there there is no avail funds, for the next order, it simply does not execute [23:51]
teek and the bid is removed [23:51]
assbot [GLBSE] [FUTUREFUND] 1 @ 0.00012682 BTC [+] [23:52]
teek what do you mean by "smooth" [23:52]
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teek the liquidty problem is caused by this, say i want to buy gigamining at .3 and bmmo at .04, i have 1 btc. i can place an order for 3 giga OR 25 bmmo, but not both. i have to lock my money into one thing that may never happen [23:54]
teek i should be able to bid on 10 different issues at a price i would be happy with [23:54]
teek thus creating liquidty on all those issues [23:54]
teek Smoovious: but they do have the funds for it [23:55]
mircea_popescu teek : increasing the appeareance of liquidity moreover. [23:55]
assbot [GLBSE] [FDBF] 3 @ 0.15 = 0.45 BTC [+] [23:56]
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OneMiner I'd like to put my coins somewhere but I'm feeling out of my depth. I don't suppose that anybody reviews all of the options out there? How did you get your start investing? [23:58]
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BTC-Mining Which is why if anyone lacks bids to sell off and wish to sell me at a discount, I'm available. [23:59]
mircea_popescu OneMiner start small. see what works. [23:59]
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