Forum logs for 14 Mar 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Staatsfeind That was dealt with a long time ago. [00:00]
mod6 I do like the idea that I can get tangable wealth for my btc. [00:00]
stochastic_ gold would be great if it wasn't so heavy, haha [00:00]
mod6 If I should want to. :D [00:00]
phantomcircuit Blitzboom, ps short you can lose infinite money if bitcoinica fails to margin call or stop loss orders dont trigger [00:00]
Staatsfeind mod6: *tangible [00:00]
mod6 thanks. [00:00]
neofutur mcorlett: i already said bitcoin can be forked ;) [00:00]
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Blitzboom phantomcircuit: can bitcoinica really demand BTC from you then? [00:00]
coingenuity Blitzboom: yes [00:01]
paulzag someone invite me to #bitcoin-politics please [00:01]
Blitzboom LOL [00:01]
Blitzboom sounds like a great idea to short then [00:01]
Blitzboom best on leverage [00:01]
EvanR_ paulzag might be an enemy [00:01]
coingenuity Blitzboom: inorite? [00:01]
paulzag Oh I am [00:01]
mcorlett paulzag: Does your visit there include your "paulzag is now away" messages? [00:01]
Staatsfeind EvanR_: Not an enemy, just a turd. [00:01]
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neofutur paulzag: /msg chanserv access #bitcoin-politics list [00:03]
Staatsfeind … [00:03]
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neofutur (00:01) -!- Cannot join to channel #bitcoin-politics (You are banned) [00:03]
paulzag oops sorry everyone [00:04]
neofutur ah i m banned from #bitcoin-politics [00:04]
neofutur I d love to know why . . . [00:04]
neofutur EvanR_: you around ? [00:04]
paulzag how many of those has this client been sending? I'll stop doing it [00:04]
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EvanR_ neofutur: yes [00:05]
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neofutur EvanR_: any idea why i would be banned from #bitcoin-politics ? [00:06]
EvanR_ ask the op who banned you [00:07]
neofutur I ask you because you seem to be the only "real op" on /msg chanserv access #bitcoin-politics list [00:07]
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neofutur never seens an op banning me ;) [00:07]
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neofutur but since you give op to anyone, anyone can ban anyone without a reason :p [00:08]
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EvanR_ neofutur: welcome to anarchy [00:08]
neofutur k thanks [00:08]
EvanR_ ask vragnaroda to unban you [00:09]
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EuSouBitcoin I'm a NewB here. I'm having trouble uploading my public key to some keyservers. Can anyone help me? [00:09]
neofutur wow : http://blog.aurumxchange.com/2012/03/usa-cash-deposits-now-available-for.html [00:09]
neofutur EvanR_: vragnaroda hates me, I wont ask [00:09]
mircea_popescu sks.mit.edu [00:09]
mircea_popescu paste it there eusoubitcoin [00:09]
mcorlett EuSouBitcoin: It's outlined quite well in the guide, are you having problems at any particular step? [00:10]
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neofutur EuSouBitcoin: I can help if you use the CLI version recommended on http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Creating_a_GPG_key [00:10]
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mcorlett gpg --send-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu [00:10]
EuSouBitcoin I get an error at this step [00:10]
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EuSouBitcoin gpg --send-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu YOURKEYID [00:10]
Staatsfeind neofutur: I do not hate you. [00:11]
neofutur sure :x [00:11]
EuSouBitcoin and gpg --send-keys --keyserver subset.pool.sks-keyservers.net YOURKEYID [00:11]
neofutur EuSouBitcoin: you have to open the keyserver port in your firewall ? [00:11]
neofutur outgoing port 11371 [00:11]
mcorlett EuSouBitcoin: You need to actually enter the key ID of the key you're using. (Get it from gpg --list-keys.) [00:12]
Staatsfeind * gpg --keyid-format long --list-keys [00:12]
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mcorlett Staatsfeind: It uploads the same key, the format is only used for local identification. [00:13]
bitcoin-otc-uk ;;seen nanotube [00:13]
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phantomcircuit Blitzboom, actually there is a perfectly legitimate way that you can lose > 100% on a short position [00:13]
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Blitzboom phantomcircuit: go on [00:13]
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Staatsfeind Oh, sure, if you plan on running two commands for what you only need one for, sure. [00:13]
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EuSouBitcoin yes, I put the 16 character ID in in place of YOURKEYID [00:14]
phantomcircuit Blitzboom, if you're 10:1 then a > 10% increase in spot price will result in you losing > 100% of your principle [00:14]
phantomcircuit Blitzboom, a single order can possibly do that [00:14]
mcorlett EuSouBitcoin: What error message do you get? [00:14]
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Blitzboom phantomcircuit: one can be anon on bitcoinica though [00:14]
Blitzboom how do they want to enforce its [00:14]
Blitzboom lol, this business model is doomed [00:14]
Blitzboom they’ll blow up [00:14]
Blitzboom eventually [00:15]
EuSouBitcoin error loading 'iconv.dll'" The specified module could not be found. [00:15]
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EuSouBitcoin how do I open port 11371 ? I'm on Windows 7. [00:17]
nefanon I haven't used this in a while, do I have to login or auth or something [00:17]
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phantomcircuit Blitzboom, they're banking more or less on nobody ever being able to do that [00:17]
phantomcircuit Blitzboom, it's why they restrict you to 2k USD if you're 10:1 [00:17]
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phantomcircuit but it's trivial to have a ton of accounts and fuck with them if you're going to do it [00:17]
Blitzboom you can do it with lots of accs [00:18]
Blitzboom and bots [00:18]
phantomcircuit yeah [00:18]
Blitzboom that’s one flaw i always saw [00:18]
Blitzboom they WILL go down in flames [00:18]
phantomcircuit their business model is based on the assumption that most of the time most people are playing nice [00:18]
Blitzboom so we better warn people [00:18]
neofutur EuSouBitcoin: its probably already opened, dont worry about this [00:18]
btcsantander nickname registered :P [00:18]
phantomcircuit oh i've always known that and been telling people as much [00:18]
nefanon ;;gpg eauth nefanon [00:18]
mcorlett Blitzboom is on a quest! [00:18]
phantomcircuit but nobody ever takes my warnings seriously [00:18]
phantomcircuit always with the "YOUR JUST A JEALOUS COMPETITOR!" [00:19]
Blitzboom phantomcircuit: it will hit bitcoin hard again if people lose lots of money [00:19]
mcorlett lol [00:19]
Blitzboom i suggest a warning in the bitcointalk "news" header or something [00:20]
EuSouBitcoin I tried to paste my 16 char key at SKS.MIT.EDU but it won't load when I click submit. [00:20]
Blitzboom :D [00:20]
Blitzboom i’m serious, bitcoinica will be the next mybitcoin [00:20]
Blitzboom and lots of people saw mybitcoin coming too [00:20]
neofutur EuSouBitcoin: gpg --export -a "User Name" > public.key [00:21]
neofutur you need to upload full public key, not just the id [00:21]
mircea_popescu lalala options lululu bitcoins [00:21]
neofutur perhaps you need gpg --export --armor -a "User Name" > public.key [00:21]
mcorlett nanotube: Yeah, armor. [00:21]
WBuffett mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/btc <-- trade BTC/USD options [00:21]
bitcoin-otc-uk EuSouBitcoin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ-GdErX1c [00:22]
neofutur WBuffett: on a website with more than 1300 validation errors :p [00:22]
mircea_popescu don't hate, immitate :D [00:22]
neofutur http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/options.php [00:22]
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neofutur I hope you will sell at least 1300 shares of the fund , 1 / error [00:23]
neofutur I d have bought some if I could trust the website [00:23]
bitcoin-otc-uk is nanotube hear? [00:23]
mcorlett bitcoin-otc-uk: No Sir. [00:23]
mircea_popescu the fund ? [00:23]
mcorlett ;;seen nanotube [00:23]
gribble nanotube was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 6 hours, 16 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: Mqrius: yay party. heh. [00:23]
EuSouBitcoin I got PGP installed on Mozilla Thunderbird [00:24]
bitcoin-otc-uk mcorlett thank you sir [00:24]
neofutur EuSouBitcoin: better use the CLI version recommended on http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Creating_a_GPG_key [00:24]
neofutur if you need help [00:24]
mircea_popescu phantomcircuit : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=42267.msg799448#msg799448 [00:25]
mircea_popescu 4.77 executed at 4.5... cool story. [00:26]
phantomcircuit yeah not surprising [00:26]
phantomcircuit the algorithm that bitcoinica uses takes into account market volatility [00:26]
phantomcircuit it's very easy to get fucked for more or less no reason [00:27]
phantomcircuit it's practically guaranteed [00:27]
Blitzboom i haven’t been zhoutonged yet [00:27]
neofutur I ve been [00:27]
mircea_popescu apparently they've been having some serious issues, [00:28]
Blitzboom though i really rarely used bitcoinica [00:28]
Blitzboom and i don’t use it at all anymore [00:28]
mircea_popescu i mean bunches of people complaining, and hundreds of btc [00:28]
Cory That's why they implemented the asterisks. [00:28]
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mircea_popescu but how can you be executed at 4.4 when the price never went under 4.6 ? [00:28]
neofutur mircea_popescu: this fund : http://charts.glbse.com/charts/MPOE.ETF#rg60zvztgSzm1g10zm2g25 [00:28]
Cory That was a glitch and they refunded any liquidations, I think. [00:28]
mircea_popescu novusordo, wait cory. if i have btc there and the price doesn't go down, then ? [00:28]
Blitzboom "I was apparently force liquidated on my 750 BTC long position @ $4.46 when Gox day's low is $4.87" [00:29]
Blitzboom haha [00:29]
neofutur its not MPOE ? [00:29]
mircea_popescu neofutur : that's smickles' fund. [00:29]
EuSouBitcoin Thanks for everyone's help. I'm going to try GPG4Win and watch that youtube video. Goodbye. [00:29]
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mircea_popescu cory : seems not from what people are saying. [00:29]
neofutur mircea_popescu: i saw you post on the forum thread for MPOE.ETF [00:29]
Cory They said they did, anyway. [00:29]
neofutur so I thought it was related to your website [00:29]
mircea_popescu neofutur : i don't post on the forum. [00:29]
novusordo mircea_popescu: you highlighted me again :P [00:30]
mircea_popescu nowai ?! [00:30]
Staatsfeind wat [00:30]
neofutur ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0 ) [00:30]
mircea_popescu jesus fuck. [00:30]
mircea_popescu ok anyone explain to noob me WHY am i highlighting people ? [00:30]
neofutur ah ok MPOE-PR is not you [00:30]
maclof Mad7Scientist magnetron malkauns_ mayli MBS MC1984 mcorlett merde micols midnightmagic mircea_popescu mizerydearia Mkaysi mndrix mod6 MPAMPA mps Mqrius mrsy MrTiggr [00:30]
maclof Mad7Scientist magnetron malkauns_ mayli MBS MC1984 mcorlett merde micols midnightmagic mircea_popescu mizerydearia Mkaysi mndrix mod6 MPAMPA mps Mqrius mrsy MrTiggr [00:30]
maclof Mad7Scientist magnetron malkauns_ mayli MBS MC1984 mcorlett merde micols midnightmagic mircea_popescu mizerydearia Mkaysi mndrix mod6 MPAMPA mps Mqrius mrsy MrTiggr [00:30]
maclof Mad7Scientist magnetron malkauns_ mayli MBS MC1984 mcorlett merde micols midnightmagic mircea_popescu mizerydearia Mkaysi mndrix mod6 MPAMPA mps Mqrius mrsy MrTiggr [00:30]
pigeons you have the random tab complete virus [00:30]
mircea_popescu omfg [00:30]
mircea_popescu pigeons what ?! [00:30]
Staatsfeind mircea_popescu: I didn't see it. [00:30]
novusordo Protip: Type 2 letters of a person's name before hitting tab. [00:31]
novusordo :P [00:31]
neofutur "This is to certify that Michael Carver did ask Mircea Popescu for his thoughts on the ETF and Mircea Popescu saw no problem with it. [00:31]
mircea_popescu o wow. [00:31]
mircea_popescu ok, sorry novusordo ;/ [00:31]
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nefanon ;;letmein [00:31]
mircea_popescu im just butterfingered. [00:31]
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mircea_popescu neofutur o, yea. that's the pr girl. [00:31]
mircea_popescu she does btctalk for me. [00:32]
neofutur ok [00:32]
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mircea_popescu but anyway, mpoe.eft is a glbse traded fund on mpoe shares that this guy made. [00:32]
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mircea_popescu and if credibility is your issue, im thinking the >5k btc in my account should speak louder than the uninvited opinions of the w3c. [00:33]
neofutur and nothing will come to you ? [00:33]
neofutur or its to invest in your business ? [00:33]
mircea_popescu his plan is to participate in my ipos yes. [00:33]
neofutur k [00:33]
EvanR_ why is mpoe valuable? [00:33]
neofutur EvanR_: world record on validation errors ;) [00:33]
mircea_popescu evanr_ because it makes money. [00:34]
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EvanR_ does it? [00:34]
mircea_popescu yes. [00:34]
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Staatsfeind EvanR_: He's actually been fairly transparent about it. [00:34]
SteinerC Looking to buy 3 Bitcoins for PPUSD [00:34]
Staatsfeind SteinerC: Getting someone to accept ,,PayPal for bitcoins is not very likely. [00:35]
gribble Many popular forms of payment, such as PayPal and credit cards, allow the sender to claw back the money via a 'chargeback'. This is very undesirable for the seller of bitcoins, so you'll often have trouble convincing people to trade on these. See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Payment_methods for comparison of payment methods. [00:35]
mircea_popescu SteinerC, talk to sturles about it. [00:35]
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pigeons are you registered SteinerC? [00:36]
SteinerC Nope [00:36]
neofutur SteinerC: http://gw.gd/bcauth [00:36]
neofutur registering is a minimum to have a small chancee of finding sellers [00:37]
SteinerC ;;Getrating sturles [00:37]
pigeons ok good luck, maybe try a moneypak. I think sturles will want you to be registered, and i might consider it if you were registered [00:37]
mircea_popescu for sure, registered goes w/o saying. [00:37]
mircea_popescu so is 5.3 the new 4.8 ? [00:37]
pigeons yes "it's stable now" [00:38]
mircea_popescu i see. [00:40]
mircea_popescu its so bizzare to me this, so there's huge spike in price, volume stays low. [00:40]
mircea_popescu wouldn't you expect volume to spike with the price ? [00:41]
mod6 well, noone has placed a huge ask near the gap to cause any dilution of the price. [00:42]
mod6 *shrug* it may hold for a bit :) [00:42]
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mircea_popescu see thing is, if price spikes and volume doesn't spike then why did the price stabilize ? [00:43]
mircea_popescu it makes no sense all this. [00:43]
mircea_popescu btc still behaves like a junk stock. [00:44]
mod6 hmm. [00:44]
mod6 ;; ticker [00:45]
gribble Best bid: 5.26228, Best ask: 5.29985, Bid-ask spread: 0.03757, Last trade: 5.31484, 24 hour volume: 125920, 24 hour low: 4.86511, 24 hour high: 5.41 [00:45]
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derpcoinz ;;book cad [00:45]
pigeons don't try to figure it out mircea_popescu, just let us keep manipulating [00:45]
mircea_popescu go right ahead lolz [00:45]
mod6 haha. [00:45]
foggyb mircea_popescu: bitcoin is not a stock [00:45]
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mircea_popescu foggyb and you know this on the authority of you not wanting to think it is ? [00:46]
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derpcoinz ;;book interac [00:47]
pigeons actually he is correct, bitcoin is not a stock [00:47]
foggyb mircea_popescu: its simple.... no one owns bitcoin [00:47]
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derpcoinz bitcoin is owned by Mr. Bitcoin [00:47]
EvanR_ o [00:48]
EvanR_ lol [00:48]
pigeons but who owns Mr. Bitcoin? [00:48]
mcorlett Stack is innocent? [00:48]
derpcoinz illuminati [00:48]
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mircea_popescu that's a poor criteria. [00:48]
EvanR_ who created god [00:48]
derpcoinz Mr. God [00:48]
EvanR_ lol [00:48]
pigeons RealSolid [00:48]
derpcoinz lols [00:48]
mod6 I like this chart with the band in there, gives an idea of vol in regard to price: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90ztgCzbgBzm1g10zm2g25zv [00:49]
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neofutur mod6: thanks for the link, good bitcoincharts settings, I offer you this shortcut : http://gw.gd/bcmod6 [00:50]
neofutur and this one http://gw.gd/bcmod6b [00:51]
derpcoinz i always prefer the long link, so you can see you're not being linked to rickroll or hahgay.com or something [00:51]
mod6 here is a link if you're interested about the Bollinger band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bollinger_Bands [00:52]
neofutur I use and recommend ;) [00:52]
MBS anyone want to buy this $20 lowes gc for $15.5 or a hollywood movie money movie voucher, or some amex e-gift cards? [00:53]
MBS anyone want to preorder indie royale st patricks day for $3.99? Expected game in it is hard reset, a pretty good looking fps [00:53]
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derpcoinz ;;book [00:59]
neofutur ( updated http://gw.gd/bcmod6b to point to the correct image including volume ) [01:00]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD or LRUSD [01:00]
mod6 neofutur: Cool man! :) [01:00]
Blitzboom see thing is, if price spikes and volume doesn't spike then why did the price stabilize ? [01:00]
Blitzboom it makes no sense all this. [01:00]
Blitzboom what? [01:00]
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Blitzboom the price spiked and volume spiked [01:01]
mircea_popescu it did ? [01:01]
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mircea_popescu i don't see much volume, no. [01:01]
Blitzboom yes, 65k in 15 mins [01:01]
mircea_popescu ya, for those 15 mins [01:01]
mircea_popescu and then ? [01:01]
mircea_popescu nobody was waiting for it to go over 5 to sell ? [01:01]
Blitzboom now we are consolidating [01:01]
mircea_popescu yaya [01:01]
mircea_popescu basically this is a market nobody watches. [01:01]
mircea_popescu you waltz in here with 1-200k, you take price up 20% [01:02]
derpcoinz except ppl with bitcoins [01:02]
mircea_popescu that's it, now it stays there [01:02]
mircea_popescu pfff, no they don't. [01:02]
mircea_popescu if i were to sell 100k btc right now it would go to 4 and that'd be it [01:02]
mircea_popescu it;'d be 4 for a while, till someone with money happened about. [01:02]
Blitzboom no, it’d spike up [01:02]
mircea_popescu that's nonsense. [01:02]
derpcoinz if you could find ppl to buy 100k worth [01:02]
mircea_popescu ocminer, it only spikes up ? [01:02]
mircea_popescu grrr [01:03]
mircea_popescu ocminer, i only spikes up i mean. [01:03]
mircea_popescu omfg [01:03]
Blitzboom you are the nonsense [01:03]
mod6 now check out this one, it has the % Vol oscillator on the bottom of the chart: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg90ztgCzbgBzm1g10zm2g25zi1gPVOzv [01:03]
Blitzboom did you lose out on options or what [01:03]
mircea_popescu no lol [01:03]
mircea_popescu i actually made money, but as a general principle. [01:03]
Blitzboom it’s simply consolidating before the next move up [01:03]
Blitzboom and volume is rather high still [01:03]
mircea_popescu methinks you just see what you want to see. [01:03]
Blitzboom no, i see what i see [01:04]
Blitzboom i see breakout on huge volume and now consolidation from 5.4 [01:04]
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MBS yays [01:04]
MBS Congratulations! By using your synced American Express® Card ending in *****, yousaved $50.00 on your purchase of $102.50 at Ticketmaster. Expect a statement credit in 3-5 days. [01:04]
derpcoinz glad it's been steady $4-5 lately better than pump and dump every month last year [01:04]
MBS now to just wait for these gift cards to come in, lol [01:04]
Blitzboom derpcoinz: it won’t stay that way [01:05]
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mircea_popescu derpcoinz that i agree. still... [01:05]
phantomcircuit MBS, ? [01:05]
MBS amex promo [01:05]
phantomcircuit oh [01:05]
phantomcircuit lol still playing them eh? [01:05]
MBS https://twitter.com/#!/AmericanExpress [01:05]
derpcoinz plus i owe a guy 150BTC come due end of the month :) lower the price the better [01:06]
MBS they have a bunch, lol [01:06]
MBS so glad i got this amex :D [01:06]
phantomcircuit so basically they're paying people to spam for them [01:06]
phantomcircuit derp [01:06]
MBS lol [01:06]
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MBS so far $95 in promo credits, though like $20 is some older stuff, so might have to call them to make sure it will come in [01:07]
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mircea_popescu mbs seems so not worth the hassle. [01:09]
MBS meh not much hassle, lol [01:09]
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* smickles is here [01:10]
danieldaniel The hell [01:10]
danieldaniel 5.27??? [01:10]
smickles neofutur: did you get all your questions answered about MPOE.ETF? [01:10]
danieldaniel What is this, i don't even... [01:10]
jjjrmy-m ;;seen nanotube [01:10]
mircea_popescu it went up daniel. [01:10]
smickles danieldaniel: you must be new here [01:11]
danieldaniel smickles: lol [01:11]
danieldaniel mircea_popescu: I realized that [01:11]
danieldaniel :) [01:11]
smickles ;) [01:11]
* danieldaniel sells everything [01:11]
danieldaniel brb [01:11]
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mircea_popescu actually it seems i might be on track for record profits this month ? [01:11]
* smickles bought one awesome put :/ [01:12]
dsmouse who offers options? [01:12]
mircea_popescu dsmouse you mean bitcoin options ? [01:13]
dsmouse Yes [01:13]
smickles that guy [01:13]
smickles mircea_popescu: [01:13]
DeLorean719 who has a wired 360 controller they want to sell me d: [01:13]
WBuffett mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/btc <-- trade BTC/USD options [01:13]
mircea_popescu what put did you buy smickles ? [01:13]
smickles mircea_popescu: sec, lemme look [01:13]
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smickles 100 @6.5 i think [01:14]
mircea_popescu o [01:15]
mircea_popescu not such a grand move in retrospect huh [01:15]
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neofutur mod6: one of my preferred settings : http://gw.gd/bcgraph [01:15]
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neofutur more for daytrading when it moves [01:15]
smickles yeah, just poor timing [01:15]
smickles i bought it right before the recent drop, it didn't drop far enough to be profitable [01:16]
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smickles mircea_popescu: so people can sell options without having bought them first now? [01:16]
mircea_popescu yes. [01:16]
smickles nice [01:17]
smickles working well I imagine ;D [01:17]
mircea_popescu well, i dunno how open contracts will work out [01:17]
mircea_popescu but judging on closed contracts so far its a pretty good month [01:17]
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* neofutur selling GNU/Linux , web services and more : http://gw.gd/services [01:18]
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eusoubitcoin I think I finally got registered on the Web of Trust, yea! [01:19]
smickles welcome :D [01:19]
mircea_popescu wd [01:19]
spawn- Selling BTC for PPUSD or LRUSD [01:19]
Cory Authenticate, eusoubitcoin. :D [01:19]
eusoubitcoin auth eusoubitcoin [01:20]
MBS sweet [01:20]
smickles ;;view 7096 [01:20]
gribble #7096 Tue Mar 6 21:34:31 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 Depositary Receipt @ 0.1 BTC (I can do any amount (positive integer). This DR represents the underlying asset MPOE.ETF on GLBSE. I will act as a holding agent for anyone who doesn't want to use GLBSE to purchase shares of the fund. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0) [01:20]
MBS new amex link like love promo on facebook, lol [01:20]
MBS Receive a $5 statement credit when you makes purchase(s) totaling $5 or more to rent movies or games at any redbox kiosk through 4/30/12. [01:20]
MBS anyone know if redboxes still sell the used disks? [01:20]
MBS havent looked in forever [01:20]
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smickles grr, the darn glbse charts haven't updated in over a day :/ [01:21]
SteinerC For the GPGTools packet for Mac OSX, I am having an error at the end of the installation. It's bringing an error saying I'm missing tools. [01:21]
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jjjrmy-m ;;ident spawn- [01:22]
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neofutur ;;getrating spawn- [01:24]
gribble User spawn-, created on Sat Feb 4 19:27:00 2012. Cumulative rating 53, from 39 total ratings. Received ratings: 36 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 35 positive, 2 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=spawn- Currently authenticated from hostmask spawn-!hellspawn@definitely.has.a.l337.name [01:24]
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paulzag anybody buying or selling BTC ? [01:28]
mircea_popescu no paulzag. we're here for the cookies mostly. [01:28]
derpcoinz hmm indeed [01:28]
mod6 i just crushed down my oreo's. [01:29]
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bitcoin-otc-uk ;;getrating eusoubitcoin [01:31]
Cory paulzag: Let's hear your terms. :) [01:33]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63257.msg800131#msg800131 so it seems red star is going the way of skepsidyne ? [01:33]
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derpcoinz lol i just sold 60btc for $190 for a quick sale. Damn lack of canadian instant xfer offers [01:36]
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Cory Ouch. :( [01:38]
Cory Couldn't you have used Western Union or sometthing? [01:38]
Joric $3.16 per btc? [01:39]
mircea_popescu jesus wtf lol [01:39]
mircea_popescu ;;ident derpcoinz [01:39]
paulzag derpcoinz, why don't you come here first? [01:39]
derpcoinz Actually true could've used WU but the closest WU agent is closed fml [01:40]
mircea_popescu actually, i don't believe you. [01:40]
paulzag that said ... I'd have loved that sort of action [01:40]
derpcoinz i need cad interac email xfer that's y [01:40]
derpcoinz er needed [01:40]
derpcoinz ;; book wu [01:40]
derpcoinz ;; book western union [01:40]
paulzag Cory, I've had a good morning (Oz time) so far so not desperate... Just curious as to what's on offer [01:40]
Cory Ah. :) [01:41]
Cory I'm looking to buy 100 MTGUSD with 101 PPUSD. [01:41]
derpcoinz ;;book wu [01:43]
danieldaniel jjjrmy-m: wut? [01:46]
danieldaniel OMG 5.3 [01:46]
danieldaniel Sooo… Anyone wanna sell for 4.5? [01:46]
AcidicChip So, wtf happened that made btc shoot up? lol [01:47]
danieldaniel AcidicChip: It didn't, its all an illusion [01:48]
danieldaniel sell at 3 now! [01:48]
AcidicChip bah [01:48]
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neofutur Cory: would you take MTGGBP ? [01:50]
Cory No, sorry, but I'd take 19 BTC. [01:51]
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Cory *MTGBTC [01:51]
jjjrmy-m anyone wanna help meeeee :) [01:53]
jjjrmy-m I need you to tell me big bitcoin events (like MtGox hack, etc) and the dates they happened. [01:53]
danieldaniel jjjrmy-m: me [01:53]
danieldaniel oh, no [01:53]
jjjrmy-m Please and thankyou :) [01:53]
luke-jr jjjrmy-m: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/History [01:54]
jjjrmy-m from October 'till now [01:54]
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jjjrmy-m luke-jr: not good enough [01:55]
jjjrmy-m luke-jr: only 2 events from Oct '11 - Current [01:56]
derpcoinz you can always google [01:56]
paulzag sorry Cory It costs me on average 2% to deposit to MtGox [01:57]
derpcoinz took me five seconds to find date/time of the mtgox 'hack' when the price plummeted [01:57]
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paulzag ;;rate ne0futur 1 sold me BTC for PPUSD very helpful, quick & easy. Would trade again [02:00]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user ne0futur has been recorded. [02:00]
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paulzag ;;view 7191 [02:07]
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paulzag ;;7179 [02:07]
paulzag ;;view 7179 [02:08]
gribble #7179 Tue Mar 13 17:06:50 2012 paulzag BUY 100.0 LRUSD @ 1 USD (don't pay a transfer fee sell your LRUSD to me 1:1 via PPUSD or ACH or BTC smaller amount ok) [02:08]
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paulzag ;;time [02:08]
gribble 05:08 PM, March 13, 2012 [02:08]
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easystevey ;; rate spawn- 1 easy BTC > PP exchange [02:12]
Framedragger @paulzag, your order #7179, when uttered, has five syllables rhyming together. :) [02:13]
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Framedragger (the comment section alone, i.e.) /OT [02:13]
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spawn- ;;rate easystevey 1 easy BTC > PP exchange smooth highly recommended! [02:14]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user easystevey has been recorded. [02:14]
easystevey ;; rate spawn- 1 BTC > PP exchange [02:15]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user spawn- has been recorded. [02:15]
paulzag Framedragger, if I could change the note field, I'd change the ok to okey-dokey and be up there with Dr Seuss [02:16]
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SteinerC Anyone know why I am getting an error on Mac OSX Lion when I go to install GPGTools? [02:17]
da2ce7 selling cassius coins in AUS, local distributor. [02:17]
da2ce7 *CASASCIUS [02:17]
da2ce7 lol [02:17]
Framedragger exactly paulzag, that "ok" was very abrupt! Better luck with leering readers into complying with your requests via lullabying them next time :> [02:17]
da2ce7 paulzag: you want to buy some physical bitcoins? [02:18]
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mircea_popescu impossible name to spell isnt it. [02:24]
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Joric yeah tried that cascascus.com looks like it's always offline [02:27]
jjjrmy-m what date was MtGox hacked? [02:27]
Joric june 19 [02:28]
mircea_popescu late june [02:28]
mircea_popescu yea [02:28]
Cmeloni what do y'all consider the best, and most reliable BTC exchange? [02:29]
Joric here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=19551.0 [02:29]
splatster Joric: ca-sas-cius [02:29]
Cmeloni I've dabbled in Virwox, MtGox, and some others, but I still haven't arrived at a clear consensus [02:29]
Joric that's what i'm saying, cascascus [02:29]
angusbates100 #ozcoin [02:30]
neofutur Cmeloni: no doubt for me, mtgox + yubikey [02:30]
Cory I use MtGox in part because it has, by far, the most volume. [02:30]
mircea_popescu lol joric [02:31]
neofutur but my opinion could be biased i m also selling a service to mtgox<, just a personal opinion/disclaimer> [02:31]
jjjrmy-m how many Bitcoins were stolen in the Linode attack? [02:31]
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Cmeloni how is "Dwolla"? [02:33]
Joric jjjrmy-m, 43554 from bitcoinica 3094 from slush, 5 from bitcoin faucet [02:33]
jjjrmy-m which is how many total? [02:33]
Cmeloni P.S. does anyone have a list of the "FRAUDSTERS" on here [02:33]
jjjrmy-m I can't into math [02:33]
Cmeloni ? [02:33]
paulzag hi da2ce7 I'll eventually have to get a few... [02:33]
Joric 46553 bitcoins [02:33]
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paulzag define "best" Cmeloni [02:34]
Cmeloni best as in lowest fees, fastest confirmations, fewest problems, best prices overall... [02:35]
Cmeloni no hoops to jump through [02:35]
neofutur Cmeloni: http://bitcoinpolice.org/ http://volatiletechnology.com/police/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page [02:35]
neofutur Cmeloni: http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php [02:36]
paulzag your definition of best includes "best prices" as a seller I want people to overpay me. as I buyer I want to find ummm wood-ducks [02:36]
Cmeloni thanks neofutur !! [02:36]
paulzag but as a trader I want market depth and responsiveness [02:37]
neofutur ;;gettrust Cmeloni [02:37]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user Cmeloni: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=Cmeloni [02:37]
neofutur ;;ident Cmeloni [02:37]
gribble Nick 'Cmeloni', with hostmask 'Cmeloni!6c14ee6d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.20.238.109', is not identified. [02:37]
paulzag but the high volume exchange (only 1 - MtGox) required AML, KYC and the normal hoops any securities broker would require [02:38]
Cmeloni so essentially MtGox is the safest? [02:38]
paulzag So I use multiple exchanges to get multiple results [02:38]
Cmeloni ah i see [02:38]
paulzag safest ? for BTC? I wouldn't use that word [02:38]
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neofutur imho mtgox halready had the problems other exchanges could have in the future [02:39]
paulzag but MtGox is highly regarded [02:39]
paulzag ne0futur, +1 [02:39]
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neofutur I d also recommend https://intersango.com/ [02:39]
neofutur since I trust phantomcircuit [02:39]
paulzag they seem the best set up with CryptoXChange and intersango following [02:39]
neofutur is the guy doing CryptoXChange here on otc ? [02:40]
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neofutur imho owner having a otc web of trust is a good reason to trust an exchange or other btc business [02:41]
neofutur ;;gettrust phantomcircuit [02:41]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=phantomcircuit [02:41]
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pigeons cryptoxchange is unusable for me i can't even figure out how to trade i get three different pages with different orders trying to buy or sell btc, but i don't feel like paying $5 to deposit anyway, plus i know better than to use someone who calls themselves "the ethical exchange" [02:41]
eusoubitcoin_ I've been playing around doing some small trading at BitFloor.com They are the only exchange that PAYS YOU for orders that add liquidity to their order book. [02:41]
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GlooBoy ;;eauth GlooBoy [02:42]
pigeons yeah bitfloor works well, you can deposit dwolla no fee or mtgox usd 2% [02:42]
neofutur well he dont really have a otc wot ;( http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=phantomcircuit [02:42]
gmaxwell eusoubitcoin_: Hi. [02:42]
reeses that didn't sound like shilling at all [02:42]
neofutur but he s always on IRC :p [02:42]
mircea_popescu lol reeses [02:42]
gmaxwell reeses: yea. [02:42]
eusoubitcoin_ In my opinion the only way someone is going to dethrone Mt Gox is my offering rebates. [02:42]
eusoubitcoin_ by [02:42]
reeses freudian slip [02:42]
gmaxwell eusoubitcoin_: How ya doing? [02:42]
gmaxwell reeses: hahah [02:42]
* neofutur having a look at BitFloor.com [02:43]
neofutur hosted on linode whois not anonymous [02:43]
pigeons how does their wc3 markup validate compared to mircea? [02:44]
neofutur few html errors in validator [02:44]
pigeons heh [02:44]
neofutur http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https%3A%2F%2Fbitfloor.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0 [02:44]
neofutur pretty good [02:44]
rg ;;ticker [02:44]
neofutur and HTML5 another good point [02:45]
neofutur I ll probably try [02:45]
neofutur the "hosted on linode" part is the very bad point ;( [02:45]
jjjrmy-m what was the date that "The Good Wife" episode played about Bitcoins/ [02:46]
danieldaniel pirateat40: LOL [02:46]
pirateat40 :) [02:46]
pirateat40 Well she did love it [02:46]
pirateat40 :) [02:46]
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danieldaniel pirateat40: So you're goin' out with my mother, are you [02:47]
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pirateat40 Its not really a public thing.. so more like fooling around with... [02:47]
eusoubitcoin_ I talked to the head guy at BitFloor, Roman Shtylman, about being on linode, let me see if I can find his response. [02:48]
Joric jjjrmy-m, oh, i missed a hundred, 46653 coins [02:48]
danieldaniel pirateat40: umm [02:48]
neofutur no security on password lenght [02:48]
danieldaniel o.0? [02:48]
jjjrmy-m Joric: I got it. What about when the BTC episode about 'The Good Wife' came out? [02:49]
jjjrmy-m Joric: like that date [02:49]
rg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6uhKSvgbE [02:49]
Joric january 15 [02:49]
danieldaniel rg: LOLWHAT [02:50]
rg my favorite popsicle flavor [02:50]
rg is dick! [02:50]
danieldaniel lol [02:51]
rg ;;calc 30 * 5.26 [02:51]
mircea_popescu rapeghost lixdix ? [02:51]
rg no [02:51]
rg look at the link i posted [02:51]
mircea_popescu o o lol [02:51]
mircea_popescu sick. [02:52]
rg its a joke [02:52]
rg its making fun of Maury [02:52]
rg but its pretty accurate [02:52]
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rawrmage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oPkcl9sDNc [02:54]
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mcorlett DBordello: Your topic still mentions the Instawallet green address :p [02:55]
mcorlett https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64805.0 [02:55]
jjjrmy-m someone sell my G some bitcoins [02:55]
mcorlett jjjrmy-m: Who is this "G"? [02:55]
DBordello mcorlett, fixed :) [02:55]
bitcoinjojo hello to jscinoz, btcplease, and abracadabra.......i want to buy bitcoins through paypal or money pack. get back to me [02:55]
spawn- PM me bitcoinjojo [02:56]
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danieldaniel omgsical [02:57]
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mils Anyone selling coins? [02:58]
mcorlett ;;getrating mils [02:58]
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spawn- Selling btc for PPUSD anyone ? [02:58]
DBordello mils, how many are you looking for? [02:59]
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mils Ideally around 35 [02:59]
mcorlett ;;view [02:59]
gribble #7102 Wed Mar 7 05:39:38 2012 mcorlett SELL 50.0 BTC @ 4.4203 PPEUR (None) [02:59]
spawn- mils msg me :) [02:59]
Cmeloni can someone help me/inform me how to register with gribble ? [03:00]
Cmeloni I was just told that I need to, in order to rate and be rated [03:00]
mcorlett ;;tell Cmeloni [guide] [03:00]
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mils let me switch clients [03:01]
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mircea_popescu ;;tell Cmeloni [guide] [03:02]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Hey! [03:02]
mcorlett That's enough.. [03:02]
mircea_popescu heya mcorlette! [03:02]
rg i need to order some food [03:03]
mircea_popescu i didn't see you sorry! [03:03]
rg earliar i laid down and i was like james , youre gonna fall asleep and wake up when its too late [03:03]
rg and thats pretty much what happened [03:03]
mcorlett I actually registered mcorlette a couple of hours ago. [03:03]
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neofutur Cmeloni: read http://gw.gd/bcauth [03:06]
neofutur use the recommended CLI version [03:06]
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spawn- mils msg me :) [03:06]
spawn- Selling btc for PPUSD anyone ? [03:06]
neofutur if you have a good price could be [03:07]
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cal1fub3ralle5 bitcoin for moneypak anyone? [03:08]
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luke-jr at $25 per [03:08]
easystevey you want BTC oor MP? [03:08]
rawrmage rg: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSHz7Thvbc [03:08]
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cal1fub3ralle5 bitcoin [03:08]
Cmeloni y'all can trust "spawn-", he's as professional as they come [03:09]
mcorlette luke-jr: Only a scammer would trade at $25/BTC. [03:09]
spawn- :) [03:09]
luke-jr mcorlette: or someone desperate [03:09]
Cmeloni once i can figure this darned registration out I'll give him a real rate! [03:09]
spawn- thanks bro Cmeloni :) [03:09]
jjjrmy-m Guys, what happened around February that caused this? : http://gyazo.com/eb69fe40d801b2e3788cfdc83c8f1b84 [03:10]
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bitcoinjojo what bitcoin e wallet do you all suggest [03:10]
mcorlette bitcoinjojo: I suggest... Bitcoin! [03:11]
Cory I've heard good things about blockchain.info, though I've never extensively used an ewallet. [03:11]
Cory Good 'ol bitcoin-qt gets the job done. [03:11]
neofutur Cmeloni: ask for help on #gribble if you are trying to follow the auth guide [03:11]
jjjrmy-m Guys! What happend that caused that sudden spike in Feb? http://gyazo.com/eb69fe40d801b2e3788cfdc83c8f1b84 [03:12]
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rawrmage YOUR FACE [03:12]
mcorlette bitcoinjojo: Oh, didn't notice the e. [03:12]
rawrmage EXPLODED [03:12]
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mircea_popescu i read that site as gayzoo [03:13]
jjjrmy-m mircea_popescu: I always do the same :p [03:13]
mircea_popescu and nothing happened. [03:14]
rg ;;calc 14.35 / 5.26 [03:14]
rg ;;ticker [03:14]
mircea_popescu was a dry spyke. [03:14]
jjjrmy-m ;;seen nanotube [03:14]
rg ;;calc 14.35 / 5.28 [03:14]
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jjjrmy-m mircea_popescu: a what? [03:14]
rawrmage the price got a -- [03:14]
mircea_popescu as in, no news, no "real" reason [03:14]
rawrmage damn this -nsfw rules [03:14]
mircea_popescu what ?! [03:14]
rg rawrmage [03:14]
rg just wait til later [03:14]
rg then you can get away with it [03:15]
rawrmage lol [03:15]
jjjrmy-m mircea_popescu: what other events to add? [03:15]
rg but its still pretty early for nsfw, i agree [03:15]
mircea_popescu its 3am over here ;/ [03:15]
paulzag early where? [03:15]
paulzag 12:15pm [03:15]
rg umm in the only country that matters [03:15]
rg america [03:15]
rawrmage #bitcoin-otc watershed [03:15]
jjjrmy-m Someone sell my nigga SteinerC some Bitcoins. [03:15]
paulzag which coast? [03:15]
rg east [03:16]
rg silyl [03:16]
rg question [03:16]
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mircea_popescu didn;t even know this "america" was a country. [03:16]
SteinerC I only want to buy 3 :D [03:16]
neofutur rg: grrr US is not america [03:16]
mircea_popescu you mean in that us federation thingee ? [03:17]
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neofutur mircea_popescu: +1 [03:17]
jjjrmy-m ;;getrating paulzag [03:17]
stochastic_ united states of america [03:17]
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neofutur jjjrmy-m: I recommend paulzag [03:17]
SteinerC ;;getrating paulzag [03:17]
jjjrmy-m neofutur: turns our the project you were talking about wasn't the project I was thinking of [03:18]
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neofutur not surprised [03:18]
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llanox what's everyone up to tonight? [03:19]
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weex there's a meetup in mountain view in 41 minutes but not sure where it is [03:20]
weex the organizer left it at "a cool cafe in downtown mv" [03:20]
smickles 'merica [03:20]
rawrmage lol [03:21]
smickles fuck yeah [03:21]
Cory ;;buy 100 MTGUSD at 101 PPUSD [03:21]
gribble Order id 7180 created. [03:21]
sipa we're here to save the mothferf*king day yeah [03:21]
smickles http://theoatmeal.com/pl/minor_differences4/accents [03:22]
Cory ;;buy 1 "100 MTGUSD" at 101 PPUSD [03:22]
gribble Order id 7181 created. [03:22]
Cory :P [03:23]
smickles YES! shit yes! [03:23]
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mircea_popescu hmm who owns IBB ? [03:24]
rawrmage weex: if you don't know where it is you're not cool enough they don't want you [03:24]
smickles senbokuban or something like that, i think mircea_popescu [03:24]
mircea_popescu a aha [03:24]
mcorlette senbonzakura [03:24]
mircea_popescu senbonzakura ? [03:25]
mircea_popescu ya [03:25]
mircea_popescu mcorlette you're so fast baby [03:25]
mcorlette https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28652 [03:25]
mircea_popescu i cant keep up with you [03:25]
llanox ;;fraud [03:25]
smickles .w senbokuban [03:25]
paulzag sorry everyone - the price jump just saw me cleaned out of BTC [03:25]
llanox how much is it now? [03:26]
mcorlette https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68689.0 [03:26]
mcorlette .t [03:26]
mcorlette ;;t [03:26]
gribble Flexcoin is now owned by James Gray [03:26]
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mircea_popescu i wonder why glbse is not updating [03:27]
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bitcoin-otc-uk_ can some one link me to ozcoin? [03:28]
bitcoin-otc-uk_ plz [03:28]
mcorlette bitcoin-otc-uk_: #ozcoin [03:28]
bitcoin-otc-uk_ thanks mcorlette [03:29]
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smickles lol [03:29]
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mcorlett Only Mircea can refer to me as mcorlette. [03:29]
smickles senbokuban seems to mean: one of "little money's" manservants [03:30]
smickles so like: one of the many slaves to a penny [03:31]
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smickles read: tightass [03:32]
mcorlett lol [03:32]
weex rawrmage: i know! i think nobody will be there [03:33]
splatster Making bots for bitcoins! [03:33]
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splatster You know you want them! [03:33]
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chk what kind of bots [03:33]
smickles 04:26 < mircea_popescu> i wonder why glbse is not updating << yeah, me too [03:33]
splatster IRC bots [03:33]
chk malware? [03:33]
splatster no! [03:34]
chk useless [03:34]
AcidicChip I love it when I find reg codes I totally forgot I purchased (like mIRC, no more nag screen!) [03:34]
splatster FFS why would I sell malware? [03:34]
smickles chk: don't hate on the independent dev [03:34]
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weex splatster: can you do a trading bot that wins at zero-sum games? [03:34]
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mircea_popescu haha wouldn't be bad, that. [03:34]
chk im not smickles [03:34]
smickles heh, I must have misinterprated you [03:35]
splatster smickles, you make trading bots, right? [03:35]
smickles sry [03:35]
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smickles splatster: yup [03:35]
chk no prob dude [03:35]
splatster weex: You should talk to smickles. [03:35]
weex smickles: can you give me free money in the form of a bot? [03:35]
mcorlett splatster: Can you make a bot that can authenticate with gribble? [03:35]
chk can i ask a broad and vague question? [03:35]
smickles weex: not exactly [03:35]
chk whats the best way to profit if you have around 100 BTC in your wallet [03:36]
splatster mcorlett: You mean a plugin that auths for you? [03:36]
milsorgen ;;gpg eregister milsorgen 7403E18103B72A89 [03:36]
mcorlett splatster: I guess, yes. [03:36]
splatster mcorlett: What IRC client do you use? [03:36]
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weex chk: sit on it and try to make more usd to pump into your btc wallet [03:37]
mcorlett splatster: I don't want a plugin for my client, I want a bot. [03:37]
SteinerC Looking to buy 3 Bc via PPUSD [03:37]
mcorlett (Well, I don't want it. I'm mostly curious.) [03:37]
smickles chk: the best way is to invest in a good business [03:37]
splatster mcorlett: What would the bot do? [03:37]
paulzag SteinerC, remember to say - at mtgox last [03:37]
SteinerC ty [03:37]
mcorlett smickles: Plug your ETF! [03:37]
SteinerC Looking to buy 3 Bc via PPUSD mtgox [03:37]
smickles ;;view 7096 [03:37]
gribble #7096 Tue Mar 6 21:34:31 2012 smickles SELL 1.0 Depositary Receipt @ 0.1 BTC (I can do any amount (positive integer). This DR represents the underlying asset MPOE.ETF on GLBSE. I will act as a holding agent for anyone who doesn't want to use GLBSE to purchase shares of the fund. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67535.0) [03:37]
mircea_popescu Madged that proves everything I've said. Every threat shakaru you make makes more powerful, 10 times credibility and I grow another foot standing tall. [03:38]
mircea_popescu this guy is a master of cromulence. [03:38]
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mcorlett splatster: Join a channel, request a OTP, decrypt, verify. You know the drill. [03:38]
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bitcoin-otc-uk_ ;;time [03:39]
splatster mcorlett: But why would you want a bot to do this? Is the bot going to be sending/receiving ratings? [03:39]
mcorlett splatster: Yes. [03:39]
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splatster How can a bot determine trust? [03:40]
iLoveAOL ops [03:40]
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smickles exactly 420 shares sold [03:40]
splatster iLoveAOL: ? [03:40]
mcorlett splatster: It does not. How can you determine trust when you trade with someone who goes first? [03:40]
smickles of MPOE.ETF so far [03:40]
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CMeloni Hey [03:41]
splatster mcorlett: I just don't see any reason for a bot, such as gribble or splatterbot, to be giving ratings. [03:41]
SteinerC Is anyone willing to sell 3 Bc PPUSD mtgox? [03:41]
chk PPUSD mtgox? [03:42]
chk that makes no sense [03:42]
chk you cant use PP on mtgox [03:42]
mcorlett splatster: In terms of programming alone, can you do it? [03:42]
splatster chk: I think he means 3 BTC for PPUSD at Mt. Gox rate [03:42]
splatster mcorlett: Yes. [03:43]
chk ahh :p [03:43]
chk thanks for clearing that up splatster lol [03:43]
SteinerC thank you splaster [03:43]
jjjrmy-m yeah, SteinerC means 3BTC*last with PPUSD [03:43]
mcorlett ;;getrating [ident SteinerC] [03:43]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [03:43]
jjjrmy-m SteinerC: isn't authed, but I know him irl [03:43]
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chk sell him btc then [03:44]
chk lol [03:44]
mcorlett jjjrmy-m: Set him up and give him a rating. It goes a long way. [03:44]
SteinerC he doesn't have any [03:44]
jjjrmy-m mcorlett: he's a mac fag, I can't help him :/ [03:44]
cal1fub3ralle5 $75 moneypak for bitcoins [03:44]
SteinerC having problems with GPGTools [03:44]
cal1fub3ralle5 anyone? [03:44]
mcorlett Does it have to be GUI? [03:44]
SteinerC No :o [03:45]
SteinerC whatever works [03:45]
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neofutur ;;ident jjjrmy-m [03:46]
gribble Nick 'jjjrmy-m', with hostmask 'jjjrmy-m!6166dbe4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.102.219.228', is not identified. [03:46]
neofutur (03:41) < jjjrmy-m> SteinerC: isn't authed, but I know him irl [03:46]
jjjrmy-m neofutur: uggggghhh, I'll auth if I HAVE to. [03:46]
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x0Jakeyboy0x Hey anyone here have a cramster account? [03:46]
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x0Jakeyboy0x If anyone has a cramster account, msg me. [03:48]
neofutur Cory: I could sell up to 50 MTGGBP for 81 PPUSD ( http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=50&From=GBP&To=USD ) [03:48]
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CMeloni how do i rate someone? [03:51]
neofutur ;;ident CMeloni [03:52]
gribble Nick 'CMeloni', with hostmask 'CMeloni!~CMeloni@pool-108-20-238-109.bstnma.fios.verizon.net', is identified as user CMeloni, with GPG key id 860550FD8E284032, and key fingerprint 09AAE9A4987B30E77F56EFB5860550FD8E284032. [03:52]
neofutur ;;getrating CMeloni [03:52]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently authenticated from hostmask CMeloni!~CMeloni@pool-108-20-238-109.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [03:52]
neofutur you need to be rated first to be allowed to rate [03:52]
CMeloni ahh alright [03:52]
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neofutur after that use ;;rate nick value comment [03:53]
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paulzag CMeloni, if you've traded with spawn- he'll rate you [03:53]
CMeloni yup [03:53]
CMeloni I just messaged him [03:53]
spawn- ;;rate CMeloni easy BTC > PP exchange fast business highly recommended! [03:54]
spawn- ;;rate CMeloni 1 BTC > PP exchange fast business highly recommended! [03:54]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user CMeloni has been recorded. [03:54]
splatster What if I made a bot that ghosted a certain set of a person's grouped nicks? [03:54]
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CMeloni ;;rate spawn- 1 great transaction, excellent seller; professional, will certainly engage in further business!! [03:54]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user spawn- has been recorded. [03:54]
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x0Jakeyboy0x Anyone have a cramster account? [03:55]
x0Jakeyboy0x message me [03:55]
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paulzag ;;getrating CMeloni [03:57]
gribble User CMeloni, created on Tue Mar 13 18:54:13 2012. Cumulative rating 1, from 1 total ratings. Received ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 1 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=CMeloni Currently authenticated from hostmask CMeloni!~CMeloni@pool-108-20-238-109.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [03:57]
jjjrmy-m ;;eauth jjjrmy [03:57]
splatster Someone should /nick splaster. [03:57]
paulzag isn't it ;;gpg eauth jjjrmy [03:57]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc [11:16]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || http://bit.ly/x56Fd5 || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe [11:16]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube!~nanotube@unaffiliated/nanotube at Sun Feb 26 06:25:27 2012 [11:16]
* [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? Please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp [11:16]
takemymoney rg: well he didnt tell me i got thse by stealing htem [11:17]
takemymoney he just asked how to sell them [11:17]
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rg right [11:17]
rg dude [11:17]
rg and my point is [11:17]
rg anyone who obtained that many coins [11:17]
rg and doesnt know how to sell them [11:17]
rg doesnt have a grasp on bitcoin [11:17]
rg and thats $21,000 in Bitcoins [11:17]
rg which would mean they probably stole them [11:17]
takemymoney oh [11:17]
rg as the same place you obtain bitcoins from is the same place you sell them [11:17]
rg so if he didnt know that [11:17]
rg hes trying to scam you [11:18]
rg or has stolen coins [11:18]
takemymoney what if he sold stuff? [11:18]
rg end of discussion [11:18]
takemymoney for coin [11:18]
takemymoney thats not same pleace you get them same place you sell them [11:18]
takemymoney i had no info for him anyway [11:19]
takemymoney as ive never done aynthing but a moneypak [11:19]
rg he sounds like a retard. [11:19]
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takemymoney i know but i checked the amount of coin in existance [11:20]
takemymoney and its high [11:20]
takemymoney so i wondered [11:20]
takemymoney if someone had tons of coin [11:20]
takemymoney what would they do with them [11:20]
takemymoney they cant just moneypak them [11:20]
mircea_popescu ;;ident takemymoney [11:21]
takemymoney what? [11:21]
mircea_popescu you checked the ammount of coin in existance and would like to know if you managed to steal a large chunk of it [11:21]
mircea_popescu how would you go about getting cash for them ? [11:21]
mircea_popescu how about stfu & go away ? [11:21]
takemymoney lol [11:22]
takemymoney sorry [11:22]
takemymoney i dont mean to offend [11:22]
takemymoney the guy got me curious about large amounts [11:22]
takemymoney is stealing a big problem? [11:22]
mircea_popescu trusted people trade large ammounts. [11:22]
mircea_popescu scammers don't get to be trusted [11:22]
mircea_popescu its kind of that simple. [11:22]
takemymoney mircea_popescu: what was that ident [11:23]
mircea_popescu ;;tell takemymoney [guide] [11:23]
takemymoney ok [11:23]
takemymoney im still figuring it out [11:23]
takemymoney like i said [11:23]
takemymoney just dealt with moneypak [11:23]
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takemymoney thanks rg for your info [11:24]
takemymoney and vragnaroda f [11:25]
takemymoney for that stuff about bad coin [11:25]
grubles ya boy just got his spoof on [11:25]
takemymoney is there a way you guys check coin history before you buy it? [11:25]
takemymoney to make sure its not tainted [11:25]
MBS bleh, so discover only lets you apply $50+ cashback as a statement credit :( [11:26]
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MBS lol anyone need an AMEX or discover gift card [11:26]
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vragnaroda takemymoney: You might be able to come to an agreement with someone that coins sent to you can only come from preapproved addresses that you check, but that's not likely. [11:27]
takemymoney if you did you could cehck that they weren't taitned? [11:27]
rg wow [11:28]
rg vietnam guy actually paid [11:28]
MBS lol anyone need an AMEX or discover gift card or any other random gift cards? [11:29]
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MBS or maybe i will just save cashback for when i get something on amazon [11:30]
paulzag mbs I need a rechargable amex prepaid [11:30]
takemymoney paulzag: thats nota gift card [11:30]
paulzag I know [11:31]
takemymoney paulzag: its like a debit card i dont think someone can send one to someone else [11:32]
takemymoney unless i misunderstand [11:32]
MBS well you can [11:32]
MBS but it would still be tied to their account [11:32]
MBS something that sucks about the new amex prepaids is how long it takes to get money in them, bank transfer took almost a week [11:32]
takemymoney wouldnt that like sending your bank debit card [11:33]
MBS not really [11:33]
MBS would be alot better if they let you fund it with an AMEX card [11:33]
MBS but anyway, wouldnt do it cuz of the address thing, since he isnt in US, would have to use your (or some other random) address to get card and to use as billing address [11:33]
rg ;;seen Bigpiggy01mining [11:33]
gribble Bigpiggy01mining was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 16 hours, 15 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: ;;seen zhoutong [11:33]
takemymoney MBS: you can fund them with moneypaks [11:34]
MBS yeah [11:34]
MBS so hmm, for discover card, minimum payment no matter what is at least $40 [11:35]
MBS that sorta sucks, going to pay off 1/3 of my balance before 0% even runs out :( [11:36]
takemymoney I have another question [11:42]
takemymoney dont get mad [11:42]
takemymoney what's the primary reason people trade here instead of exchanges? [11:42]
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rg cause you can actually talk to the person youre trading with [11:43]
rg we accept other currencies the exchanges dont [11:43]
rg no fees [11:43]
takemymoney thanks [11:44]
takemymoney that makes sense [11:44]
takemymoney what are people using coin for? other than to trade and make money [11:44]
vitsum to buy drugs? XD [11:45]
phedny_ to pay my cell phone invoice ^_^ [11:45]
kinlo takemymoney: to buy and sell stuff, it's a currency for a reason [11:45]
takemymoney what can you buy [11:45]
takemymoney besides drugs lol vitsum [11:46]
phedny_ takemymoney: in a couple of months a mobile phone carrier in .nl will accept BTC if things go to plan [11:46]
vitsum for example, in the head of this channel, i see www.bitvps.com, it accepts bitcoins =) [11:47]
rg i know bitvps [11:58]
rg theyre great [11:58]
rg i had a vps from them [11:58]
phedny_ had? why you quit? [11:59]
rg cause i dont get high on my own stash [11:59]
rg (im the owner of bitvps :P) [11:59]
* gribble gives voice to nyuszika7h [11:59]
Graet https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade << just one site thats got lists of traders [12:02]
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MBS http://slickdeals.net/f/4064178-CATLEAP-Shimian-27-S-IPS-2560x1440-Monitor-for-378-Shipped-Ebay [12:02]
MBS interesting [12:02]
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MBS sorta sucks that its 16:9 instead of 16:10 though, and would be better if it was bigger than 27" but not bad [12:05]
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hellomoto anyone selling btcs? [12:07]
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rg secure deleting old customers is taking a long time. [12:14]
rg i wish there was a faster way to do it [12:14]
Cusipzzz large magnets, sledgehammer [12:14]
rg hah [12:14]
rg good idea [12:14]
rg i actually had a pretty devious idea [12:15]
rg so when you buy a VPS [12:15]
rg it preallocates your space [12:15]
rg you should technically be able to recover data [12:15]
rg from the host hd [12:15]
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rg from the vm [12:15]
unreal-dude only if the VMs HDD file is in the same place as teh previous (and i still am not really sold) [12:17]
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rg well [12:21]
rg obviouslyi f you delete a vm [12:21]
rg create a new customer [12:21]
rg it'd most likely be in the same place [12:21]
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rg and even if it wasnt [12:21]
rg there'd be potential to score files from the host machine [12:21]
phantomcircuit rg, lol [12:22]
MBS same place in filesystem != same place on hdd [12:22]
phantomcircuit are they files or lvm [12:22]
phantomcircuit files are null filled when access beyond their current size [12:23]
unreal-dude it probably depends on the setup of the HDD and such [12:23]
rg files [12:23]
rg im not saying access out your current size [12:23]
rg just the space youre allocated [12:24]
phantomcircuit lol [12:24]
phantomcircuit operates vps service, doesn't understand unix file allocation [12:24]
* phantomcircuit runs [12:24]
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hellomoto anyone accepting pp or amazon gc? [12:27]
unreal-dude o.O [12:28]
* unreal-dude plugs ears trying to stop hellomoto ring tone..... [12:28]
rg phantomcircuit [12:29]
rg i never said itd work [12:29]
rg i said i wonder if it would [12:29]
rg you stupid twat [12:29]
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* unreal-dude wonders if the average VM provider preallocates HDD space, or uses growing volumes [12:30]
rg we preallocate [12:30]
rg im not sure if openvz preallocates or not [12:30]
rg ;;ticker [12:31]
gribble Best bid: 5.34303, Best ask: 5.37321, Bid-ask spread: 0.03018, Last trade: 5.37324, 24 hour volume: 145446, 24 hour low: 4.86511, 24 hour high: 5.4444 [12:31]
unreal-dude so, does that zero out? or just creates a record on the FS of the size of that file? [12:31]
rg unknown [12:31]
rg besides, itd take more than a single 0 pass [12:32]
unreal-dude i use vr.org, and they dont really give option of installing (like most providers ive seen) im fairly certain that they just copy the image file over and boot up etc etc etc... [12:32]
rg yeah [12:33]
rg i let customers install their own shit if they want [12:33]
rg unless its gentoo [12:33]
unreal-dude but would that matter for the VM? [12:33]
unreal-dude lol [12:33]
phantomcircuit unreal-dude, the typical behaviour is to open the file seek to the preallocation size and write a single byte [12:33]
phantomcircuit except this is dumb and doesn't actually work [12:33]
rg unreal-dude: every customer whos asked to install gentoo has fucked it up and i spend more time answering their support emails [12:33]
rg than it takes me to just use the proper vm image i made of it [12:33]
rg neofutur loves my gentoo image [12:34]
rg hehe [12:34]
unreal-dude i stay in my little debian world [12:34]
rg me too usually [12:34]
unreal-dude its done nearly everything i desire with little difficulty [12:34]
rg i dont do much on my workstation [12:35]
rg pidgin, mplayer, firefox, ssh, bash [12:35]
rg oh and urban terror [12:36]
unreal-dude anyways, i guess any linux install could run the tools needed to access deleted files and if the end of such an image file isnt written over, then its possible [12:36]
phantomcircuit unreal-dude, if each vm is assigned it's own file and those files are not reused [12:37]
unreal-dude but, it could possibly be restricted by the VM software as well [12:37]
phantomcircuit it is 100% impossible [12:37]
Coolty don't forget, VertVPS.com has VPS for cheap! [12:37]
Coolty goodnight!~ [12:37]
unreal-dude 100% impossible is fairly impossible [12:38]
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unreal-dude thats like saying you cant hack the host from the guest :) [12:39]
rg well [12:39]
rg im running a test now [12:39]
rg so we'll know for sure [12:39]
unreal-dude i would say its fairly unlikely, but not impossible :0 [12:40]
rg i just deleted a customer [12:40]
unreal-dude o.O [12:40]
unreal-dude :) [12:40]
phantomcircuit unreal-dude, short of a major kernel bug [12:40]
phantomcircuit you're talking something on the order of a full privilege escalation [12:40]
unreal-dude <-- one of those guys who can't say that perfect security exists [12:41]
paulzag ;;getrating [ident hellomoto ] [12:42]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. Currently not authenticated. [12:42]
rg paulzag: ive traded with hellomoto [12:42]
rg ;;rated napkin [12:43]
gribble You rated user napkin on Wed Feb 29 21:25:31 2012, giving him a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: moneypak->btc. showed receipt. appears 100% legit. [12:43]
rg thats him [12:43]
rg hes not logged in as it for some reason [12:43]
hellomoto he's traded w/ me too [12:43]
paulzag ;;seen napkin [12:44]
gribble napkin was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 4 weeks, 0 days, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: anyone selling btcs? [12:44]
rg hellomoto: login to your account [12:45]
hellomoto Nickname is already in use.: napkin [12:46]
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hellomot i don't know what's up [12:46]
rg no, your otc account [12:47]
rg with gribble [12:48]
hellomot k [12:49]
paulzag it's napkin - he just posted a log of our private chat [12:52]
rg yeah [12:52]
rg but he should login anyway [12:52]
hellomot i know i should auth my otc [12:52]
hellomot it's just very early [12:52]
hellomot and i'm laying in bed [12:52]
hellomot no mouse and shit, slow ass netbook, [12:52]
paulzag that's the one problem with gpg atm - the process is currently mainly tied to one machine [12:54]
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coingenuity hellomot: wooooo [12:57]
coingenuity you do it right dawg [12:57]
coingenuity i never have a mouse [12:57]
hellomot lol wooo [12:57]
hellomot i have an asus eee 1000he [12:57]
coingenuity everyoen gives you shit [12:57]
rg wow [12:57]
hellomot nice machine [12:57]
rg it actually did find some files [12:57]
coingenuity but ignore them...cuz its easy to survive sans mouse [12:57]
coingenuity rg? [12:58]
rg coingenuity: deleted a customers vm then ran file recovery software on a new vm [12:58]
rg installed in its place [12:58]
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coingenuity oh, and recovered data? [12:58]
coingenuity question is [12:59]
coingenuity was it a chroot [12:59]
coingenuity or a file storage [12:59]
rg it was neither [12:59]
coingenuity oh? [13:00]
rg this will require more testing [13:00]
rg but it doesnt look like it recovered anything useful [13:00]
unreal-dude yan [13:00]
unreal-dude *yawn [13:00]
rg are we boring you? [13:01]
unreal-dude anyone wanna buy GTX580s? :) [13:01]
hellomot ;;getrating paulzag [13:01]
unreal-dude summer time is coming, and these cards are incompatible with summer time :) [13:02]
vragnaroda *summertime [13:02]
unreal-dude or something to that effect [13:02]
vragnaroda Summer time means something different. [13:02]
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unreal-dude i can see the difference between F@H and btc mining on nvidia cards :) [13:03]
unreal-dude they get hotter running F@H [13:03]
unreal-dude nothing like the heat from video cards on a cool morning :) [13:04]
coingenuity unreal-dude: mine keep me warm [13:05]
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coingenuity except when cg crashes on me >.< [13:05]
kakobrekla mornin. [13:05]
coingenuity ill give it a few hours off [13:05]
coingenuity sup kako [13:05]
kakobrekla uhhh [13:06]
kakobrekla need coffe to answer that question! [13:06]
unreal-dude my top card is sitting @ 198 F (92 C) and the bottom is 187 F (86 C) [13:06]
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paulzag hellomot, hey fancypants I'm doing all this on an eMachine 10" netbook [13:07]
paulzag ;;rated napkin [13:08]
gribble You rated user napkin on Thu Mar 1 04:20:16 2012, giving him a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: several transactions where I sold him BTC for PPUSD. Always quick, reliable and honest - trusted him to send later all worked out. [13:08]
unreal-dude runs about 194 with bitcoin, 198 with F@H, almost expect to heat the temp alarm any minute :) [13:09]
hellomot wee! [13:10]
hellomot and nice paulzag [13:10]
paulzag hehehe :D [13:10]
unreal-dude whats this new chip tech i hear AMD intergrating the gpu called? [13:10]
paulzag ;;seen myhatistoosmall [13:13]
gribble I have not seen myhatistoosmall. [13:13]
coingenuity APU [13:13]
coingenuity @ unreal-dude [13:13]
unreal-dude lol, just found it the second you said it :) [13:13]
coingenuity ;) [13:13]
coingenuity i know da trickz [13:13]
coingenuity :P [13:13]
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Perlboy unreal-dude: GTX580s [13:15]
Perlboy how much are you chasing? [13:15]
unreal-dude ? [13:15]
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unreal-dude chasing? [13:16]
Perlboy or were you just joking? [13:16]
Perlboy i mean, $$ [13:16]
Perlboy :) [13:16]
unreal-dude depends i guess :) [13:16]
unreal-dude i really like these cards, but.... [13:16]
Greed If you can afford a 580 I'd say do a dual 560 SLI setup instead [13:16]
Greed Better performance [13:16]
Greed Cheaper by about 20$ [13:17]
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unreal-dude well, i got 2 580s now :) [13:17]
Greed Well shit [13:17]
Greed I thought you were just looking to get one [13:17]
Perlboy i only want one [13:17]
Perlboy and i'd prob be a cheapskate on you anyway [13:18]
Perlboy hello all by the way [13:18]
unreal-dude lol [13:18]
Perlboy been here a while, from australia a/s/l? jokin' ;) [13:18]
unreal-dude well i cant have just one.... :) would break up my surround :) [13:18]
Greed Wait [13:18]
Greed If you can afford 2x 580's why not just grab a 590? [13:19]
unreal-dude couldnt get one [13:19]
unreal-dude never did find one (last year) [13:19]
Greed Unfortunate [13:19]
unreal-dude the other problem is... i would have to shut off my pc! [13:19]
Perlboy what sort of btc generation do u get from these ~$500 cards? [13:20]
unreal-dude lol [13:20]
unreal-dude not sure i wanna say :) [13:20]
unreal-dude only 130M each [13:20]
Greed Nvidia cards are pretty meh for BTC mining [13:20]
unreal-dude well, it can reach 160ish [13:20]
unreal-dude yepp [13:20]
Perlboy 'scuse the french, faaarrkkk [13:20]
Perlboy that's some serious generation [13:20]
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Greed pffft [13:20]
Perlboy i'm happy with 27M :) [13:21]
Perlboy but then like I said, i'm a cheapskate... [13:21]
Greed The similarly priced 7970 does way way way way way way way more than 160 [13:21]
unreal-dude well ya [13:21]
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Greed Has to do with the fact that Nvidia's philosophy is more power per ALU, and ATI's is more ALUs. [13:21]
unreal-dude lol [13:21]
Greed Quantity over Quality, and Quantity finally won the race for once. [13:22]
Perlboy well, while mining seems like something fun to do, i'm more focused on the trading part [13:22]
unreal-dude a 7970 is a newer gen tbh [13:22]
Perlboy how come mtgox is the big player.. do peeps just not trust the others? [13:23]
unreal-dude in fact, i think the 6000s came out after the 500s anyways [13:23]
Perlboy actually, is there a better channel for this? [13:23]
Greed Because once you're used to something you don't really have much reason to switch [13:23]
Greed MtGox was first [13:23]
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unreal-dude not sure ): [13:23]
unreal-dude *:) [13:23]
Greed Have you seen the BTC mining stats for the 7970, Perlboy? [13:23]
Perlboy well, i don't want to annoy the gribble owners.. [13:23]
Perlboy greed: no i haven't [13:24]
Greed ~800Mh/s [13:24]
unreal-dude im more interested in the idea of FPGAs, just so expensive for something that has little other use [13:24]
unreal-dude its what 1024 streams? [13:25]
Perlboy unreal: yeah i saw some usb ones burned through the hashes [13:25]
Perlboy greed: nice [13:25]
* unreal-dude wonders where nvidias next gen is [13:25]
Perlboy so i wonder why the other markets don't do something like drop their commission or declare open war on mtgox [13:25]
unreal-dude i wanna use a raspberry pi, with usb hubs and FPGAs [13:25]
unreal-dude drop the PC! :) [13:25]
Perlboy the way i see it mtgox has a monopoly and monopolies are never good. [13:26]
Greed Once your FPGA stops mining fast enough to be profitable you could always reprogram it for SETI@HOME [13:26]
unreal-dude im thinking FPGA on solar with raspberry PI controlling it [13:26]
Greed Or if you're an Arduino / Raspberry Pi guy [13:26]
Greed FPGA's are amazing for tinkering with [13:27]
unreal-dude bet you could get a good setup if you are willing to spend the $ on solar [13:27]
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unreal-dude and im an electronic engineering student anyways :) [13:27]
unreal-dude arduino would never do it :( [13:27]
Greed Well what I was saying was that those among us that like Arduinos are bound to have fun messing around with FPGAs [13:28]
Greed I have yet to get my hands on one [13:28]
unreal-dude if you were an arduino walking, FPGA would be a UAV, and GPU would be super sonic jet [13:28]
Greed But I'd like to see what I could do with one [13:28]
unreal-dude i just need to make some money somehow :P [13:30]
unreal-dude hrm, if a 7970 is that fast, it just may be fine for me these days, but just no cuda.... :( [13:31]
unreal-dude *mining isnt my primary use [13:31]
Greed They have something similar [13:31]
unreal-dude ya, but its not cuda [13:32]
Greed I stay away from ATI just because ATI has some driver / compatbility issues with all kinds of shit [13:32]
unreal-dude lol [13:32]
unreal-dude ever try nvidias drivers on windows with SLI and surround? [13:32]
Greed yep [13:32]
unreal-dude such a pain [13:32]
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unreal-dude but it gets better with every single update [13:33]
Greed I didn't have any issues [13:33]
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Greed I'm using that now [13:33]
unreal-dude by leaps and bounds! [13:33]
SpeedBus Heyy ! [13:33]
unreal-dude what cards? [13:33]
unreal-dude a week ago i wash crashing every 3rd day [13:34]
unreal-dude then i realized there was an update out and took the time to do it, now ive been up since sunday, rock solid pushing the crap outta the cards :) [13:34]
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unreal-dude my top card has been 190+ F since :) [13:36]
unreal-dude hrm, what a waste [13:37]
unreal-dude i dont think ive ever used more than 50% of my GPU RAM :) [13:37]
Graet yer its just a shame mining on nvidia is pointless ;) [13:37]
unreal-dude especially for this stuff [13:37]
unreal-dude and F@H is less pointless? [13:38]
Graet no [13:38]
Graet less profitable tho [13:38]
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Greed Dual 560 Ti's, unreal-dude [13:40]
unreal-dude im just waiting on nvidias pet project that everybody ignores to be realized [13:40]
unreal-dude ah [13:40]
unreal-dude so you shouldnt be any more stable in theory [13:40]
Greed nope [13:40]
unreal-dude win7 x64? [13:40]
Greed Yep [13:40]
Greed Dualboot with Arch [13:40]
unreal-dude lol [13:41]
unreal-dude linux is awesome, i just rarely reboot, so id be stuck in it or out of it [13:41]
unreal-dude i saev it for the netbook and everything else :) [13:41]
Greed I would be in linux 24/7 but I can't go without my games [13:42]
unreal-dude haha [13:42]
Greed And even though WINE supports a majority of 'em [13:42]
Greed It's a bit buggy for some [13:42]
Greed Steam has me in a chokehold :( [13:42]
unreal-dude another place nvidia is great in :) [13:42]
SpeedBus Nvidia is shit [13:42]
unreal-dude ive been tempted to try debian or something with my surround (if windows pisses me off one too many times ofc) [13:43]
SpeedBus *for mining [13:43]
SpeedBus For gaming its FTW [13:43]
unreal-dude good thing mining isnt my most important thing :) [13:43]
SpeedBus Yep [13:43]
SpeedBus While ATI gives a good balance of both ;) [13:43]
unreal-dude for now [13:43]
SpeedBus for now ? [13:43]
Greed Dunno about that. [13:44]
unreal-dude i think nvidias been focusing more on their drivers than hardware in the last 2 years [13:44]
SpeedBus its gonna keep continuing, the 79XX series and stuff ! [13:44]
Greed Generally ATI has some performance and video issues because it's the less supported of the two in games [13:44]
unreal-dude pushing the teslas and GPGPU distributed computing [13:44]
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Greed I have a friend with a 6850 that can barely run TF2 on low [13:44]
SpeedBus Hmm.. ATI drivers come out quiet often :/ [13:44]
Greed A game that runs on a pentium 4 8600GT system [13:44]
Greed Smoothly. [13:44]
unreal-dude lol [13:45]
SpeedBus ? heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNMUoCEqw00 [13:45]
SpeedBus :/ [13:45]
unreal-dude nvidias pushing the ability for GPUs to be used regardless of physical addressing where a program could address all of the GPUs as one [13:45]
Greed ATI does have the heat efficiency thing going for it [13:45]
unreal-dude dont matter if its in the same machine or not [13:45]
SpeedBus hmm [13:45]
unreal-dude yepp [13:45]
Greed But they're seriously not worth waiting weeks for an ATI patch in every game IMO [13:45]
unreal-dude lol [13:46]
SpeedBus :p [13:46]
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unreal-dude although, my buddy does spend much less time dealing with his eyefinity than i do my surround except when he unplugges them and they get all mixed up ): [13:46]
unreal-dude they are also pushing mobile and want the same driver structure [13:47]
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unreal-dude maybe spending too much time building their standard and not enough time on the NEXT GEN CARDS (where are they) [13:48]
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unreal-dude they do have an issue tho [13:49]
unreal-dude AMD APUs vs intel doing similar vs nvidia doing what? [13:50]
unreal-dude oh wait, they are doing something, its called Kal-El [13:51]
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mircea_popescu thank you o most generous gribble [13:52]
unreal-dude its just mobile... [13:53]
unreal-dude Greed do you have any info on nvidias next desktop gpus? ive seev little to nothing [13:57]
Greed nope [13:57]
unreal-dude i know they still exist, they updated drivers :) [13:57]
unreal-dude all i find is Keplar and Kal-El [13:57]
Greed There's Knight's Corner though [13:57]
unreal-dude kal-el is mobile cpu [13:57]
Greed Which is completely unrelated but awesome [13:57]
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Greed 1TF sustained [13:57]
Greed From a single CPU [13:58]
unreal-dude o.O [13:58]
unreal-dude o yea, 50 core beast [13:58]
unreal-dude Kepla is going to be a Flops beast again [13:58]
Greed yep [13:58]
Greed Best part is [13:58]
Greed You can run this from your everyday average machine [13:58]
Greed (If you can afford it, of course) [13:58]
unreal-dude 2TFlops (from what i can see) (if they dont have to sell an incomplete version like the 400s) [13:58]
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unreal-dude was that gpu accelerated? [13:59]
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unreal-dude lol [13:59]
unreal-dude that cpu will have nearly as much horsepower as my entire machine! [13:59]
Greed Nah, 1TF [14:00]
unreal-dude but all of it being cpu [14:00]
Greed Can't wait for the keplers though [14:00]
unreal-dude thats like 60% of my machine! [14:00]
Greed They're going to be absolute fucking monsters [14:00]
Greed One kepler GPU is going to outperform three 580's [14:00]
unreal-dude wonder if they were made more power efficient [14:00]
Greed According to the Unreal Engine demo [14:00]
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unreal-dude and the real question for this channels topic :) "how will they do for non Flops ops?" [14:01]
unreal-dude http://is.gd/HExXmp 8 days old about Keplar! [14:02]
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Greed The Keplers or the Knight's Corner, unreal-dude? [14:03]
unreal-dude keplars [14:03]
unreal-dude thats probably what you seen [14:04]
Greed They've already been proved to do more than clock high [14:04]
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Greed This was realtime on a kepler, unreal-dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXyztq_0uM [14:04]
Hurd hi [14:04]
unreal-dude these cards need to just drop the board and become an entire chip! :P [14:04]
rg well [14:04]
rg its coming on to normal hours [14:05]
rg you guys should probably start getting on-topic [14:05]
Greed Noone else is talking, so I don't see the problem [14:05]
rg Greed: i dont either [14:05]
Greed And the topic is tangentially related to Bitcoins [14:05]
rg but thats how it goes [14:05]
rg bitcoin trading [14:05]
rg or bitcoin mining? [14:05]
rg i dont make the rules, i just obey them [14:06]
unreal-dude so, how many bitcoins do you think it would take to get a 690 when it comes out? :P [14:06]
Greed Well you don't enforce 'em either lad [14:06]
Greed < 9000 [14:06]
rg i never told you what to do [14:06]
rg and i dont enforce them [14:06]
rg im just trying to save everyone hte hassle of kicks or bans [14:06]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/133172197651.jpg [14:07]
mircea_popescu this. this is art. [14:07]
coingenuity rg: you called? [14:07]
coingenuity :P [14:07]
rg its gay porn [14:07]
coingenuity what is [14:07]
coingenuity mircea_popescu's? [14:07]
mircea_popescu novusordo, russian duma's. [14:07]
rg that man has painted on eye brows [14:07]
mircea_popescu but still, a definitive and timeless illustration of our time i think. [14:08]
Greed It's starting to get to the point where game performance is reaching a plateau anyways unreal-dude [14:08]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Beautiful. [14:08]
Greed On the plus side the price of cards in general is gonna drop for sure, but their wont really be any reason to upgrade [14:08]
Greed especially with your 580 setup [14:08]
unreal-dude well, if its more power effecient [14:08]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: The older gentleman looks a little bit like Josef Fritzl. [14:08]
mircea_popescu the one in the back ? [14:08]
unreal-dude and, can i do more than 3x screens! :P [14:08]
Greed Well, yeah there's that. [14:08]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: The one to the far left. [14:08]
mircea_popescu a yes i guess he does huh [14:08]
unreal-dude keplar has to be faster than 2x a 580 tho [14:09]
rg #bitcoin-mining [14:09]
Greed http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Kepler-GPU-GeForce-600-Series,14642.html [14:09]
Greed Have you seen this? [14:09]
unreal-dude Greed #nvidia2 to make rg happy :) [14:12]
rg just go to bitcoin mining [14:12]
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rg theres probably people there who will talk about it with you [14:12]
Greed That's a thing? [14:12]
rg and might have more information [14:12]
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rg im going to work on my website [14:13]
rg i set out to finish it last night and havent done much [14:13]
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mircea_popescu what's the command for having gribble tell you btc outputs of a given hash power ? [14:23]
Graet ;;bc,calc [bc,ozcoin] [14:23]
Graet u want ;;bc,gen ;0 [14:24]
Graet hashrate in khash [14:24]
mircea_popescu a tyvm [14:24]
Graet :) [14:25]
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rg anyone know of a wordpress plugin that pops up a pretty CSS window [14:46]
rg kind of like an iframe [14:46]
rg but not a real iframe [14:46]
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jjjrmy-m luke-jr: what happened to your pool? [14:47]
jjjrmy-m rg: a modal box? [14:48]
jjjrmy-m rg: like on my site? www.giftcoin.net [14:48]
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rg none of these plugins do what i need them to [14:58]
rg they all display pop ups on every page [14:59]
rg which is not what i want [14:59]
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Cory Anybody want to sell me 100 MTGUSD for 101 PPUSD? :D [15:04]
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btcsantander any one here uses gnucash? [15:19]
eusoubitcoin What's a cheap and/or fast way to buy Liberty Reserve USD ? [15:20]
imsaguy2 it seems there is no real 'cheap' way to use liberty reserve [15:21]
rg gnucash looks cool [15:21]
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rg i want to start keeping better track of BitVPS's finances [15:21]
rg its just a raw text file now [15:21]
btcsantander rg: I use it for my finances [15:21]
btcsantander the problem is that it seems that it doesnt support bitcoin directly [15:22]
eusoubitcoin I want to buy something and the seller only takes LRUSD. I'm trying to convince him to accept BTC instead but right now he only wants LRUSD. [15:22]
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imsaguy2 what sort of hashrate do the 7950s get? [15:22]
rg http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/accounting/gnucash.html [15:26]
rg it supports multiple currencies [15:26]
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rg youll just have to hack it to download new exchange rates [15:27]
btcsantander rg: you are right [15:28]
btcsantander https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=29884.0 [15:28]
btcsantander but the thing is that I'm too lazy/scared to re-compile the whole thing myself :P [15:29]
rg hmm is it large? [15:31]
jcpham herpity derpity bitcoiners [15:32]
rg hello jcpham. [15:32]
rg we meet again [15:32]
jcpham fuck your couch [15:33]
jcpham hi rg. i love your couch [15:33]
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jcpham something is broken with my wifi link [15:35]
jcpham time to get investigaTORY [15:35]
btcsantander rg: the installation in mac os is about 183 MB... [15:36]
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imsaguy2 wow [15:47]
imsaguy2 that's nice and spammy [15:47]
EvanR ;;ticker bitches [15:47]
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EvanR rally mode [15:47]
mcorlett ;;ticker [15:48]
btcsantander is there anyway to show values in euros with ticker? [15:49]
kakobreklaaa yes [15:50]
kakobreklaaa !bc,convert eur [15:50]
rg mcorlett [15:50]
rg hi [15:50]
kakobreklaaa 1 BTC = 5.36500 U.S. dollars = 4.10796325 Euros [15:50]
rg want to fix my html? [15:50]
rg i fucked everything up [15:50]
kakobreklaaa btcsantander: #bitcoin-otc-eu [15:50]
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btcsantander thanks kakobreklaaa [15:51]
jcpham looks like rooftop ninja wifi repair time [15:51]
jcpham i'll take pics [15:51]
Joric '03/14/2012 -Important announcement: Bitscalper was hacked yesterday between 16.00 and 18.00 (UTC+1) and the totality of coins stolen.' [15:51]
btcsantander anyway, the !bc,convert eur doesn't exactly give the same output [15:51]
Joric i envy those guys [15:51]
rg omg [15:51]
rg i called it [15:51]
rg they cut and ran [15:51]
EvanR Joric: :| [15:52]
jcpham nah dawg, haxxxed [15:52]
rg yeah right [15:52]
rg they got hacked like MrMoon got hacjed [15:52]
jcpham ikr [15:52]
kakobreklaaa btcsantander, nanotube is the complaits department [15:52]
kakobreklaaa complaints* [15:52]
rg i cant believe i fucked this up [15:53]
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jcpham whooooosh rdp critical vuln [15:53]
jcpham how did i miss that [15:53]
EvanR when hard digital money meets contemporary web development and security culture, hilarity ensues [15:53]
Joric 'Still have doubts?' (c) bitscalper [15:54]
jcpham rdp > code execution = no poc [15:55]
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rg i doubt they even got hacked [15:57]
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cal1fub3ralle5 anyone looking to sell some bitcoins for a $75 moneypak [15:57]
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rg how many bitcoins [15:58]
cal1fub3ralle5 14 [15:59]
cal1fub3ralle5 at least 13.5 [15:59]
rg ;;calc 75 / 13.5 [16:00]
gribble 5.55555555556 [16:00]
rg ;;ticker [16:00]
gribble Best bid: 5.35, Best ask: 5.35988, Bid-ask spread: 0.00988, Last trade: 5.35, 24 hour volume: 149237, 24 hour low: 4.86511, 24 hour high: 5.4444 [16:00]
rg ;;calc 75 / 5.35 [16:01]
gribble 14.0186915888 [16:01]
rg 45 [16:01]
rg rt [16:01]
rg er [16:01]
rg duh [16:01]
rg its just not my time of the day [16:01]
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cal1fub3ralle5 lol it ok [16:02]
cal1fub3ralle5 do you wanna do that? [16:02]
cal1fub3ralle5 it's* [16:03]
rg i cant [16:04]
rg not unless grubles wakes p [16:05]
rg ;;seen grubles [16:05]
gribble grubles was last seen in #bitcoin-otc 4 hours, 40 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: ya boy just got his spoof on [16:05]
cal1fub3ralle5 oh damn [16:06]
cal1fub3ralle5 i guess i'll come back later [16:06]
cal1fub3ralle5 thanks [16:06]
eusoubitcoin I have a friend in Italy that wants to buy BTC with EUR cash in person. Is there any resource to help him find someone to make an in-person exchange? [16:16]
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Joric check for terrorists nearby http://info.publicintelligence.net/FBI-SuspiciousActivity/Internet_Cafe.pdf [16:21]
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kakobreklaaa eusoubitcoin: try #bitcoin-otc-eu to hunt down some italians [16:21]
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EvanR there was a wireless network at my old apartment called "FBI Surveillance Van" [16:23]
dsmouse What Should I Consider Suspicious? [16:23]
dsmouse People Who: [16:23]
dsmouse  Are overly concerned about privacy, attempts to shield the screen from view of [16:23]
dsmouse others [16:23]
dsmouse I should report my bank. [16:23]
EvanR people attempting to speak freely about politics [16:23]
EvanR dsmouse: lol [16:23]
EvanR banks are terrorists, really [16:24]
Joric what should i consider suspicious -> 'people who always pay cash' [16:27]
vragnaroda EvanR: I think a lot of people name them things like that as a joke. [16:27]
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dsmouse I work at a theater that only takes cash [16:28]
EvanR cafe down the street only takes cash [16:28]
EvanR must be a front! [16:28]
EvanR for freedom! [16:28]
Joric 'sorry sir, you have been noticed in paying cash' [16:29]
EvanR USD is criminal currency [16:29]
EvanR should be illegal [16:29]
EvanR the kingpin mastermind behind it is the fed [16:30]
dsmouse In All Fairness, that seems to be a document on what's suspicious at a internet cafe, and might be different elsewhere [16:30]
EvanR fairness bias [16:30]
dsmouse But I think we should report bernakie anyway [16:30]
Joric paid for coffee in cash [16:30]
EvanR subverisve coffee! [16:31]
dsmouse it was probably Columbian coffee, used to subsidize the cocaine fields. [16:32]
EvanR and taxes are used to subsidize proUS colombian government [16:33]
EvanR it goes both ways [16:33]
Joric shit it's 5.40 [16:34]
EvanR buy now before its too late! [16:34]
Joric i went short [16:34]
EvanR rofldumb [16:34]
dsmouse damnit dwolla! Deliver my funds! [16:34]
EvanR dsmouse: maybe you should file a lawsuit against them [16:35]
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dsmouse o_O [16:35]
dsmouse Can I sue Mt Gox for not getting my funds yet too? [16:35]
EvanR its the cool thing to do these days [16:35]
Joric i thought it'll go back to sub-5.20 [16:35]
EvanR Joric: should have used contrarian! [16:36]
dsmouse Joric: did you buy a option to cover? [16:36]
Joric nope, i only zhoutonged [16:36]
mircea_popescu dsmouse you can sue anyone for anything at any time. [16:37]
dsmouse True. [16:37]
EvanR unless they are in russia, in which case your only recourse is to hire the russian police to execute them with extreme prejudice [16:37]
dsmouse New Orleans, too [16:38]
EvanR lol [16:38]
mircea_popescu i sold a few options so far, people get antsy when the btcusd moves. [16:38]
Joric Hey, Zhoutong, Thanks again for your great service! (c) forum [16:38]
DeLorean731 anyone have a wired 360 controller to sell me? [16:38]
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WBuffett mircea_popescu: http://polimedia.us/btc <-- trade BTC/USD options [16:38]
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mircea_popescu joric : in the end what happened to that ? [16:38]
dsmouse I get options confused in my head to easy, so I haven't played them yet [16:38]
mircea_popescu why ty wbuffett [16:38]
mircea_popescu ya, best used when sober i say. [16:39]
bitcoin-otc-uk ;;guide [16:39]
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Joric mircea_popescu, nothing really, i made ~10% now they're going back to zhou [16:42]
mircea_popescu hm. i recall reading people being executed at completely ridiculous rates [16:42]
mircea_popescu then being handed ~half their losses as credits. [16:42]
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peen1k anyone here selling BTC? [16:47]
peen1k buying BTC! [16:47]
Joric zero spread [16:48]
Joric 5.39984 [16:48]
Joric https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68680.0 'We are offering zero-spread on Bitcoinica again for the next 12 hours to thank you for your kind co-operation in our bad-tick-incidence a few hours ago.' [16:49]
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bruzum alla kunder hittills känner oss [16:52]
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luke-jr https://ogrr.com/viewtopic.php?f=268&t=2213 [17:07]
luke-jr he's pricing in USD, but I guess it's a step forward [17:07]
luke-jr next step I guess would be to price it in Bitcoins with an adjustment clause if the USD rate changes more than 10% [17:08]
rg luke why you gotta start fights [17:09]
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dsmouse wow. that's miles from me [17:11]
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jjjrmy-m ;;eauth jjjrmy [17:18]
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Metabank WTS 100 mtgox usd @ pp [17:19]
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jcpham i've been thinking of renting for btc [17:24]
EvanR housing? [17:24]
unreal-dude lol [17:24]
Raccoon Happy Pi Day! 3.14 [17:25]
unreal-dude forgot a few digits.... :P [17:25]
unreal-dude do we all get a free raspberry PI? [17:25]
jcpham well basically i have a home [17:26]
jcpham that was destroyed by tornados last year [17:26]
mircea_popescu jcpham at least in theory if you rent for btc you will get more educated tenants than avg. [17:26]
jcpham now it is rebuilt and i don't live there [17:26]
jcpham empty house someone could rent and fill with rigs [17:27]
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jcpham like .15 per kW [17:27]
unreal-dude hehe [17:28]
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jcpham at the current rate I could rent for 150 btc/month [17:28]
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Mad7Scientist I have .10 per kW [17:28]
Mad7Scientist Central Illinois [17:28]
Mad7Scientist highest mercury air in the country [17:28]
vragnaroda Jesus, you people overpay. [17:29]
Mad7Scientist what rates do you get [17:29]
jcpham i actually do not know the rate [17:30]
jcpham not at that house [17:30]
mircea_popescu i have 0.03 per kw and still can;'t be arsed to run rigs. [17:30]
vragnaroda It varies but the first however many kwh are 3.06 cents a kwh and it's 8.something at the high end. [17:31]
jlambert6 I am .20€ kW so consider yourself lucky! [17:31]
mircea_popescu i don't consider myself lucky. [17:31]
mircea_popescu i consider myself living in a non-shitty country. [17:31]
vragnaroda :) [17:31]
mircea_popescu it's not the lottery that did it. [17:31]
mircea_popescu it's the ballot box. [17:31]
jlambert6 really? you have to go into that? [17:32]
jcpham i think it just happened [17:32]
jlambert6 we have lowest crime rate in world and best health care [17:32]
mircea_popescu sure, why not. it is the btc-etc after all. [17:32]
mircea_popescu ya, ya, ya. [17:32]
vragnaroda jlambert6: lolwut [17:33]
mircea_popescu i bet you i have better health care than you. for one. [17:33]
jlambert6 how much u pay a month in health care? [17:33]
vragnaroda Who the fuck is "we" and who are you comparing yourselves to? [17:33]
mircea_popescu jlambert6 : nothing. i pay when i need it. for instance, i had a root canal done. it cost me ~40 euros. [17:33]
jlambert6 i was complimenting you on your cheap electricitiy rates and you auto attack [17:33]
mircea_popescu saying the result of 20 years of right wing government is "lucky" is stupid. [17:34]
jlambert6 your an ass [17:34]
jlambert6 u dont know me [17:34]
EvanR "your stupid" [17:34]
vragnaroda You made a claim. I asked for clarification. That's not an attack. [17:34]
jlambert6 u attack me for no reason [17:34]
mircea_popescu right. because socialism is a failed entreprise, that makes me an ass. [17:34]
jjjrmy-m "your a ass" [17:34]
jjjrmy-m *"your an ass" [17:34]
EvanR YOU'RE [17:34]
mircea_popescu and if anyone points it out, they're "attacking" the stupid. [17:34]
mircea_popescu gtfo. [17:34]
jjjrmy-m everyone, shut up [17:35]
mircea_popescu no! WE MUST RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE! [17:35]
jlambert6 really? i was making a compliment and i get attacked, u all have some fucked up problems that u attack me for saying i wish i paid your electricity rates [17:35]
jlambert6 dont need to lay into non relevant issues [17:35]
mircea_popescu that's not what you said. lrn2autoquote. [17:35]
jlambert6 "mircea_popescu> i consider myself living in a non-shitty country." [17:36]
mircea_popescu (vragnaroda, am i doing this rite ?) [17:36]
vragnaroda jlambert6: You still haven't answered my question. Calm the fuck down. [17:36]
jlambert6 look up Germany, low crime and even the Arabs fly here for healthcare [17:37]
mircea_popescu ya, except the germans come here for the same. lolz. [17:37]
vragnaroda and they come here, too [17:37]
mircea_popescu the germans! everywhere! [17:38]
vragnaroda (The rich ones, but still.) [17:38]
mod6 in speedo's. [17:38]
jcpham hi jlambert6 [17:38]
jlambert6 dude, wtf, seriously i wasnt even talking about this until you assumed i live in a shitty country cause of the electricity rate [17:38]
mircea_popescu merkel's cave in to the ecofreaks fucked you over btw, no nuke plants ? you people will be lucky to keep electricity under 30 eurocents. [17:38]
jlambert6 wtf [17:38]
dsmouse Hey! [17:38]
mircea_popescu ya ok, i figured you live in france. i grant that much, germany isn't shitty. [17:38]
dsmouse WHO HERE CAN PAY FOR THEIR ELECTRICITY WITH BTC?! [17:38]
mircea_popescu happy ? [17:38]
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jlambert6 well wtf though. i am new to btc and i compliment someone cause id like to do mining but my electricity is high and i get told i live in a shitty country without u even trace routing me. is this a community or a place for people with fucked up egos to shit on newbies? [17:40]
jcpham i love france [17:40]
mircea_popescu i love france too [17:40]
mircea_popescu but it's shitty. [17:40]
mircea_popescu jlambert6 : srsly, it's the internet. that's EXACTLY how it works. step this way towards teh wahmbulance. [17:40]
jcpham jlambert6, vragnaroda will bit your head off [17:40]
jcpham mircea_popescu is normally ok [17:40]
jcpham but may have s tick in his butt right now [17:40]
jlambert6 if u were standing in front of me in person it wouldnt be ok [17:41]
mircea_popescu we switched jcpham. now he's beingreasonable. [17:41]
jcpham OH! [17:41]
vragnaroda jlambert6: I don't say anything in this channel that I wouldn't say to a person's face. [17:41]
mircea_popescu why jlambert6 did you backtrace my height and muscle mass and you know ? [17:41]
jlambert6 WTF is wrong with u, i complimented you on having a cheap rate. [17:41]
jcpham mining is awesome if u have cheap electric [17:42]
jlambert6 someone has a small dick or family issues or both [17:42]
mircea_popescu can you have both ? [17:42]
* jcpham does [17:42]
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mircea_popescu but if you're asking to see my dick, it's posted on my blog, don't be shy. [17:42]
jcpham ASSHATS [17:42]
jcpham you made him leave [17:42]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: wat [17:42]
mircea_popescu what wat ? [17:42]
dsmouse drama sucks. Please people, shut the fuck up. [17:42]
mircea_popescu yea, tbh i didn't expect him to fly off ta handle sdmouse. [17:43]
vragnaroda jcpham: I asked him a simple question and he got all pissy and melodramatic (and rude). [17:43]
jcpham i saw [17:43]
* jcpham is joking about you guys being asshats [17:43]
dsmouse explaining is not shutting the fuck up. [17:43]
mircea_popescu maybe he had a small family or dick issues or both ?! [17:43]
vragnaroda lol [17:43]
phraust heh [17:44]
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mod6 ;; ticker [17:44]
gribble Best bid: 5.3946, Best ask: 5.40805, Bid-ask spread: 0.01345, Last trade: 5.41, 24 hour volume: 98993, 24 hour low: 5.13414, 24 hour high: 5.4444 [17:44]
mircea_popescu but honestly, i say many things in this channel i wouldn't say to a person's face, mostly cause i likely couldn;t be arsed to. [17:45]
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mircea_popescu who has the time and inclination to get into this sort of minutia in social situations. [17:45]
mod6 ;; bc,stats [17:45]
gribble Current Blocks: 171144 | Current Difficulty: 1496978.5950256 | Next Difficulty At Block: 171359 | Next Difficulty In: 215 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 9 hours, 5 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 1522436.97754343 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.70065107154 [17:45]
mod6 ;; bc,nethash [17:46]
gribble 11603.385067440129 [17:46]
chsados i like eggs n bacon, howbout you? [17:46]
mircea_popescu i had eggs sunny side with grilled mushrooms for bfast. [17:46]
vragnaroda Also, anyone around where I live that doesn't think he can afford medical insurance just needs to take his ass down to a hospital and apply for a job there. They're always hiring (including part-time) and provide rather extensive medical coverage. [17:48]
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mod6 Here's a graph over the last ten days + bollinger band: http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg10ztgSzbgBzm1g10zm2g25zv [17:50]
saschaheylik Does anyone here accept paypal? [17:51]
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sturles ;;guide [17:53]
gribble Guide to using #bitcoin-otc: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc [17:53]
OneFixt mircea_popescu: this is indeed the internet, but " anything that would make a newcomer or oldtimer feel unwelcome" is against guidelines ;) [17:53]
EvanR so no goatse? [17:53]
EvanR :( [17:53]
OneFixt sorry EvanR, gonna have to do it in a different channel [17:54]
mircea_popescu onefixt well i can see that... [17:54]
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dsmouse I thought goatse made everyone feel unwelcome, clearly not "OR" [17:54]
OneFixt inclusive or [17:54]
dsmouse Oh, nm then [17:54]
mircea_popescu im an oldtimer and it doesn't make me feel either way so. it's or. [17:54]
vragnaroda OneFixt: Yeah, but that guy was just ridiculous. What mircea_popescu said wouldn't make anyone sane feel unwelcome. [17:54]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: lol [17:55]
mircea_popescu #bitcoin-sanity ftw ? [17:55]
OneFixt yeah, i'm not going to make a big deal about it, just reminding people to stay friendly [17:55]
rg paging dr mcorlett [17:55]
EvanR #bitcoin-sanity is empty. appropriate [17:55]
saschaheylik think i wouldnt know goatse by now? [17:55]
rg rg haz workz for u [17:55]
mircea_popescu let's have that arborescent structure : anything which would offend the prudes goes in -nsfw. anything that would offend the stupid goes in -smart. anything that would offend the women goes in -andry [17:55]
mircea_popescu anything that would offend the insane goes in -sanity [17:55]
mircea_popescu need i keep going ? [17:55]
OneFixt lol [17:55]
OneFixt just lump it into -uncensored [17:56]
OneFixt or... -unfriendly? [17:56]
saschaheylik think is ive got my cash on paypal. moving it to bank accounts and around takes time. im looking to buy only 10btc now, more later. [17:56]
vragnaroda -nsfw is for anything. [17:56]
rg ;;later tell i have some more PHP work for you, probably wont take very long at all [17:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:56]
rg oops [17:56]
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mircea_popescu maybe the special needs groups make their special needs chans ? just a thought. [17:56]
rg ;;later tell mcorlett i have some more PHP work for you, probably wont take very long at all [17:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:56]
vragnaroda Well, almost anything. [17:56]
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mircea_popescu lol! [17:56]
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vragnaroda If you post something in -nsfw because your prudish sensibilities tell you it belongs there and I don't think it's NSFW, it doesn't belong there. [17:57]
saschaheylik rg: i can do PHP too [17:57]
vragnaroda If it's just incidental to a conversation, it's cool. [17:57]
rg saschaheylik: i dont know you [17:57]
dsmouse saschaheylik: I wish someone did take paypal, but I understand paypal hates btc, and if they find you trading it they close your account.... SO I HERE... [17:57]
EvanR bitches and hos [17:57]
OneFixt just have a bot there modify everything to be a bit less appropriate [17:57]
dsmouse "Hear" maybe [17:57]
saschaheylik dsmouse: we dont have to tell them [17:57]
rg PayPal isnt accepted because of charge backs [17:57]
rg not cause PayPal doesnt like Bitcoin [17:57]
EvanR paypal sucks even without bitcoins [17:57]
vragnaroda OneFixt: Just about everything's appropriate in that channel, though. ;) [17:58]
imsaguy2 urmom. [17:58]
mircea_popescu omg this is getting so complicated to follow. I KNOW! Let's make a new split off the bitcoin chain which doesn't get overburdened with regulations!!1 [17:58]
mircea_popescu sorta of like what bitcoin was intended to be [17:58]
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rg im going to get something different for lunch today [17:58]
OneFixt i think -discussion is generally meant for that stuff [17:58]
google123 hi there [17:58]
vragnaroda howdy [17:59]
saschaheylik well then I'll have to move it around my accounts for 4 days and hope the prives move in my favour [17:59]
mircea_popescu anyway, im translating the exchange into romanian cause i happen to think it kicks ass, so if anyone's ionterested, like half hour. [17:59]
google123 hi [17:59]
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mircea_popescu hello google123. is it your real name ? [17:59]
google123 anyone selling btc [17:59]
google123 @mirrcea yas .... :) [18:00]
google123 well i love to stay anonymous [18:00]
google123 anyone selling [18:00]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu, OneFixt: In any case, calling a country not shitty is fine. [18:00]
vragnaroda google123: How do you expect to buy bitcoins then? [18:00]
imsaguy2 the US is shitty. [18:00]
vragnaroda imsaguy2: Saying that's fine, too. [18:01]
imsaguy2 I know, thats why I said it. [18:01]
mircea_popescu ;;tell google123 [guide] [18:01]
mircea_popescu you should prolly start by making an identity. [18:01]
google123 im from canada, it's not shity [18:01]
google123 lol [18:01]
mod6 i like how you have to add that. [18:01]
vragnaroda I will abstain from saying Canada's not shitty. [18:01]
google123 im just here to buy for one time only im broke by 5 bitcoin to complete a purchase [18:01]
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OneFixt with what form of payment? [18:02]
google123 PP or Credit Card or Dwalla [18:02]
OneFixt dwolla could work [18:02]
google123 Or you can send me an invoice [18:02]
dsmouse how much? [18:02]
google123 I still prefer direct invoice to my mail [18:03]
google123 like i said 5 bitcoin [18:03]
dsmouse net45? [18:03]
google123 for 5.81 that a good deal [18:03]
google123 and i want it like really fast [18:03]
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mod6 those cats were fast as lightning .... [18:04]
google123 private me if anyone wanna trade [18:04]
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google123 no one here ? [18:05]
google123 Usually i deal with smickles but he is afk [18:06]
OneFixt check the order book http://bitcoin-otc.com/ [18:06]
OneFixt google123: bs alert: " im just here to buy for one time only im broke by 5 bitcoin to complete a purchase" " Usually i deal with smickles but he is afk" [18:06]
google123 Bs alert ?! [18:06]
google123 lol [18:06]
OneFixt you're here for one time but have a "usual" person to deal with? [18:06]
google123 thanks then il go on mt -gox then see yas [18:07]
EvanR lol [18:07]
google123 yas [18:07]
google123 i usually trade with him directly not in this caht [18:07]
google123 chat [18:07]
EvanR and your nick is scammy [18:07]
google123 lol [18:07]
google123 well i do make trade with dwalla if you want [18:07]
vragnaroda but you're Canuckistani... [18:07]
google123 dwalla are final trade right or i can do wester uninon [18:07]
EvanR WU eh [18:08]
vragnaroda ... [18:08]
EvanR sounds legit [18:08]
google123 now il be here for 1 more min [18:08]
google123 if you wanna trade it's now or never [18:08]
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phraust ah, the pressure! [18:08]
neofutur ;;gettrust google123 [18:08]
google123 yas no probleme il start making my self a rep soon when my GTC website gets online [18:09]
EvanR google123: do you need any investors [18:09]
google123 anyways, see you all i hope you have a nice day / night Rember to check the foum :) [18:09]
neofutur ;;gettrust google123 [18:09]
gribble Trust relationship from user ne0futur to user google123: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=ne0futur&dest=google123 [18:09]
google123 +evanR maybe [18:09]
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vragnaroda rofl [18:10]
google123 Gribble areyou from the philipines ? [18:10]
vragnaroda ;;echo [ident google123] [gpg info google123] [18:10]
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vragnaroda google123: ... [18:10]
jcpham http://i.imgur.com/lzGB3.jpg [18:10]
google123 nvm [18:10]
jcpham proof that i did leave here and do work [18:10]
jcpham riefly [18:10]
google123 i thought misplac3ed you with another guy on #ahk [18:11]
google123 see ya [18:11]
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mod6 jcpham: where is that? [18:11]
OneFixt well that was interesting [18:11]
vragnaroda What a strange person. [18:11]
vragnaroda Oh, a Quebecker. No wonder. [18:12]
EvanR we just discovered a new internet being [18:12]
EvanR not a troll, not a scammer [18:12]
vragnaroda An ESL student? [18:12]
EvanR lol [18:13]
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glagli hi there [18:14]
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rg hi gladli [18:15]
rg glagli* [18:15]
vragnaroda Back so soon? [18:15]
EvanR ... [18:15]
glagli yas, my shit is over [18:16]
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EvanR hahahahahahaha [18:16]
EvanR [18:16]
mod6 *boggle* [18:16]
vragnaroda What? [18:16]
EvanR when someone walks in, say 'back so soon?' and if hes a scammer he will evaporate [18:17]
rg pff [18:17]
rg why did you call him out so soon [18:17]
rg obviously i knew it was him [18:17]
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jcpham mod6 it's birmingham [18:18]
mod6 ahh, jcpham :) [18:18]
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imsaguy2 anyone running 7950s? [18:18]
rg i want chinese food [18:18]
mod6 looked like some bummer weather. :/ [18:18]
jcpham it's depressing today [18:18]
vragnaroda Mmm, Chinese food sounds good right now. [18:18]
vragnaroda jcpham: If you were in a non-shitty area, it'd be nice weather out today. :P [18:19]
mod6 it has been insanely warm this year up here. there are _flies_ outside today. I've never seen that before this time of year in MN. [18:19]
SerajewelKS mod6: must be global warming [18:19]
EvanR yep [18:19]
EvanR when its hot, its global warming, when its cold, its global cooling [18:20]
vragnaroda It's forecast to hit 420 degrees Rankine today. [18:20]
EvanR damn earth cant make up its mind [18:20]
mod6 i dunno about any of that, but i can tell you that it was the 3rd warmest winter ever. last year we got 6+ feet of snow, this year I bet 6" inches total. [18:20]
SerajewelKS EvanR: hence the umbrella "climate change" [18:20]
vragnaroda EvanR: Yeah, because weather isn't a local phenomenon. :/ [18:20]
Joric chinese food - salad with zhoutongs [18:20]
vragnaroda mod6: What? 3rd warmest since when? [18:21]
mod6 about 1880 they say. [18:21]
EvanR vragnaroda: ever [18:21]
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mod6 since they've been keeping track. [18:21]
EvanR since 6000BC [18:21]
vragnaroda lol [18:21]
EvanR the dawn of time [18:21]
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EvanR thursday, jan 1, 6000BC [18:21]
mod6 I'm not trying to be scientific. I was mearly pointing out that its sunny and nice up here, which is bizzare. [18:21]
SerajewelKS mod6: yeah it's been 60-ish in indiana all this week [18:22]
vragnaroda mod6: OK, but "3rd warmest" indicates you're actually measuring them and comparing them. [18:22]
SerajewelKS i'm not complaining [18:22]
mod6 vragnaroda: fair, i guess i cited something there. [18:23]
mod6 send my statements to /dev/null, Sir :) [18:23]
vragnaroda OMG, I just noticed my typo above: s/420/520/ [18:23]
mcorlett rg: What's up? [18:23]
EvanR 420 ron paul [18:23]
vragnaroda Don't call me that. [18:23]
rg mcorlette [18:23]
rg ill send you two PHP files [18:24]
rg a header and a footer [18:24]
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rg and you change them to the header/footer on the template [18:24]
rg and i pay you [18:24]
vragnaroda EvanR: /j #bitcoin-politics [18:24]
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extor antichat.ru is so infested with crookery you can't seem to find a place to sell spamming services [18:28]
rg extor: no [18:28]
extor you agree, rg? [18:28]
rg no [18:28]
extor wtf [18:28]
vragnaroda That conversation doesn't belong here. [18:29]
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rg what do you think mcorlett [18:32]
mcorlett rg: It doesn't make much sense, as I have come to expect from you, but I can take a look. [18:33]
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rg mcorlett: i have the vps management console [18:33]
rg i want to integrate it with the new site [18:33]
rg that doesnt make sense? [18:33]
rg its a totally different templte [18:34]
rg and the css doesnt display properly in an inframe [18:34]
rg iframe* [18:34]
mcorlett You did not mention anything about the management console. Anyway, it's a lot of work if you want to integrate that into the template. [18:35]
rg i just need you to copy/paste the footer/header into a PHP file [18:35]
rg and make it look proper [18:35]
rg its not a lot of work at all [18:35]
rg i already did it [18:36]
rg but it didnt display properly [18:36]
rg and i dont have the paitence [18:36]
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rg ;;ticker [18:39]
gribble Best bid: 5.34621, Best ask: 5.38725, Bid-ask spread: 0.04104, Last trade: 5.3455, 24 hour volume: 75587, 24 hour low: 5.203, 24 hour high: 5.4444 [18:39]
rg ;;calc 5.34 * 3 [18:39]
gribble 16.02 [18:39]
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jcpham http://i.imgur.com/k1xIs.jpg [18:40]
jcpham vragnaroda obverse [18:40]
imsaguy2 ;;echo $randomnick [18:41]
imsaguy2 gah [18:41]
imsaguy2 no auth [18:42]
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rg chinese food is expensive [18:52]
rg fuck this [18:52]
imsaguy2 Panda Express FTW [18:52]
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kaviarman ;;guide [18:52]
EvanR rg: yeah it is, despite probably costing less in supplies than mcdonalds [18:53]
EvanR they do more manual labor [18:53]
EvanR to prepare it [18:53]
rg most chinese food comes in a bag [18:54]
vragnaroda Hmm... so what you're saying is we need something that is to Chinese food what Taco Bell is to Mexican? [18:54]
rg and they heat it up [18:54]
rg even the drinks come in a bag [18:54]
rg they just add booze [18:54]
EvanR not the chinese food around here >_> [18:54]
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EvanR they got huge wok [18:54]
jjjrmy-m Selling a few BTC [18:54]
imsaguy2 what's wrong jjjrmy-m, need lunch money? [18:57]
EvanR alimony [18:57]
jjjrmy-m imsaguy2: not in school atm [18:57]
jjjrmy-m i left early, got bored [18:57]
imsaguy2 truant [18:57]
jjjrmy-m ;;eauth jjjrmy [18:58]
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jjjrmy-m ;;gettrust easystevey [18:59]
gribble Trust relationship from user jjjrmy to user easystevey: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=jjjrmy&dest=easystevey [18:59]
easystevey ;; getrating jjjrmy [19:00]
gribble User jjjrmy, created on Sat Jun 4 15:13:48 2011. Cumulative rating 131, from 47 total ratings. Received ratings: 47 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 42 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jjjrmy Currently authenticated from hostmask jjjrmy-m!6166dbe4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.102.219.228 [19:00]
jjjrmy-m ;;getrating easystevey [19:00]
gribble User easystevey, created on Mon Mar 12 17:30:07 2012. Cumulative rating 5, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=easystevey Currently authenticated from hostmask easystevey!6c2e0ead@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.46.14.173 [19:00]
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mircea_popescu http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html [19:12]
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rg imsaguy [19:17]
rg you busy? [19:17]
imsaguy2 sorta [19:18]
imsaguy2 how much time you need? [19:19]
rg not much [19:19]
rg just food [19:19]
imsaguy2 ok, I have about 3 minutes while this video finishes rendering [19:20]
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rg k [19:21]
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rg ;;ticker [19:27]
gribble Best bid: 5.35, Best ask: 5.3847, Bid-ask spread: 0.0347, Last trade: 5.3847, 24 hour volume: 69500, 24 hour low: 5.203, 24 hour high: 5.4444 [19:27]
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jcpham render [19:32]
bitcoinTrader buying LR for btc [19:32]
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jcpham ;;bc,price [19:42]
Metabank WTS 100 mtgox usd @ pp [19:42]
jcpham OMG [19:42]
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mircea_popescu metabank : cory was looking for the exact thing. [19:43]
Metabank cory's rate and my expectations differs [19:44]
bitcoinTrader wht rate u looking? [19:44]
Metabank 1:1 [19:44]
rg cheapskate [19:45]
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rg my god this place knows how to make a calzone [19:45]
jjjrmy-m ;;rate easystevey 1 Good fast trade [19:45]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user easystevey has been recorded. [19:45]
easystevey ;; rate jjjrmy-m 1 good fast trade [19:46]
easystevey ;; unrate jjjrmy-m [19:46]
rg what is with noobies doing ;; rate [19:46]
rg its ;;rate [19:46]
rg not ;; rate [19:46]
jjjrmy-m lol [19:46]
rg not ;; anything [19:46]
easystevey sorry! [19:46]
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rg you ont have to be sorry about it [19:47]
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rg its just something very common that noobies do [19:47]
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jjjrmy-m lol [19:47]
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easystevey jeeeeez get off my case dudes [19:47]
easystevey :( [19:47]
rg umm [19:47]
rg im telling you that its not a big deal and has nothign to do with you [19:47]
easystevey ;;rate jjjrmy 1 fast easy trade [19:47]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user jjjrmy has been recorded. [19:47]
rg just that its common [19:47]
easystevey i know, don't worry about it [19:47]
easystevey every time i try to rate someone i do it wrong [19:48]
easystevey i get it right in the end [19:48]
rg jeez [19:48]
easystevey :) [19:48]
rg im eating a cheese only calzone [19:48]
rg its amazing [19:48]
rg bad [19:48]
rg but amazing [19:48]
jjjrmy-m so hungry [19:50]
jjjrmy-m what should I eat? [19:50]
kakobreklaaa food [19:51]
easystevey cardboard [19:51]
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rasengan Our latest blog post got slashdotted - and there are some good sentiments about Bitcoin in it. :-) [19:59]
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mod6 rg: i add that extra space after the delimiter because of some force of habbit from like 10 years ago. maybe it's catching on?! ;D [19:59]
mod6 rasengan: impressive! [20:00]
rasengan :D [20:00]
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rg i am so fucking full [20:05]
rg i could pass out now [20:05]
rg and never wkae up [20:05]
jjjrmy-m rg: do you ever feel so full were you eyes like roll to the back of your head? [20:05]
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tbage :: space [20:11]
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jcpham let's all just go home [20:14]
neofutur the new look of my shortener is very btc : http://gw.gd/ [20:16]
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rasengan nice [20:18]
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splatster Making bots for bitcoin! [20:22]
splatster You know you want a bot he does ____, so why not get me to make it for you? [20:22]
SteinerC ;;getrating EasyStevey [20:22]
splatster s/he/that/ [20:23]
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splatster Would it be wrong to get a loan from someone in order to loan out that money to someone else? [20:25]
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dsmouse depends [20:25]
dsmouse Banks do it all the time [20:25]
splatster ya [20:26]
dsmouse worked well up until 2008 [20:26]
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splatster Say person A lends person B $100 at 5% interest, would it be wrong for person B to loan that money to person C at a higher interest rate? [20:26]
jjjrmy-m splatster: no [20:26]
splatster I'm in no position to do any of this, it's all hypothetical. [20:27]
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dsmouse No, it's not wrong [20:27]
splatster jok [20:27]
splatster s/jok/ok/ [20:27]
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dsmouse person b is borrowing against his name, which is probably better than c's name, if he got a lower interest rate [20:27]
dsmouse but also, has some risk [20:27]
splatster Why isn't this done in the bitcoin world 24/7? [20:29]
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jjjrmy-m splatster: because people don't want to [20:29]
dsmouse Don't they? [20:29]
splatster People don't want to loan to person B or to person C in order to turn a profit? [20:30]
dsmouse who fronts the money for margin accounts? [20:30]
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jjjrmy-m ;;rate SteinerC 1 Trade in person 3BTC for PPUSD [20:33]
mircea_popescu ok so i just talked with a friend who's still in costa rica [20:34]
SteinerC ;;rate jjjrmy-m 1 Traded in person PPUSD for 3 BTC [20:34]
mircea_popescu apparently he's paying 0.8 cents a kwh [20:34]
mircea_popescu world record or some shit. hydro ftw. [20:34]
jjjrmy-m i pay 0 kwh [20:35]
jjjrmy-m thanks mom and dad :) [20:35]
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jcpham http://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2012/03/privacy-for-piracy-exclusive-interview-with-suren-ter-from-youhavedownloaded-com/ [20:36]
jcpham towards the end. [20:36]
jcpham why the word bitcoin is in there, no clue [20:36]
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mircea_popescu http://i.qkme.me/3ob4dc.jpg [20:40]
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mircea_popescu lmao, is ognasty in da house ? [20:40]
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* phraust pays .08 kwh. [20:43]
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mircea_popescu ya phraust but that's 8 cents no ? [20:44]
mircea_popescu this guy is doing 0.008 [20:45]
phraust well, nvm then. [20:45]
phraust lol [20:45]
phraust oh, 6.6985 cents per kwh. [20:45]
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phraust I was thinking about getting a solar rig to power the miner. [20:46]
phraust but it's looking like I'd need to generate around 1000 watts. that's expensive. [20:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.youhavedownloaded.com/ Hi. We have no records on you. [20:46]
mircea_popescu heh. [20:46]
splatster Idea: use the heat from mining rigs to heat up your water. [20:47]
phraust I'd thought about that back when I was planning a gpu rig. [20:47]
phraust use em to pre-heat the water before it goes into the heater. [20:47]
DarkBE Works pretty well to keep my pool water warm [20:48]
mircea_popescu actuyally i think in 10 years all new housing will have in-floor heating based on gpus [20:48]
mircea_popescu cheaper that way. [20:48]
EvanR lol [20:48]
EvanR its like the roofs made of solar panels [20:48]
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mircea_popescu yup. [20:48]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Want to make a bet? [20:48]
EvanR floor made of money [20:48]
mircea_popescu mcorlett i never bet about the future :D [20:49]
copumpkin you bet about the past? [20:49]
EvanR and walls made of food generators [20:49]
mircea_popescu yes, i bet about the past. [20:49]
mircea_popescu fine evanr, derride, derride... [20:49]
DarkBE That dog house gpu rig is the best though [20:49]
mircea_popescu never seen that 1 ? [20:49]
DarkBE on bit cointalk, let me look [20:49]
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DarkBE https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67826.msg799847#msg799847 [20:52]
mcorlett lol [20:53]
mcorlett It even has the luck going for it. [20:53]
splatster https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0;topicseen [20:54]
splatster never forget the 10k btc pizza [20:54]
DarkBE Probably has an extention cord going to next doo rfor his "dog" [20:54]
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jcpham i want to bet about the past [20:55]
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mircea_popescu haha [20:56]
DeLorean731 ;;seen #bitcoin-otc churchill [20:59]
DarkBE So uh, anyone want pizza? [20:59]
DarkBE ;) [20:59]
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copumpkin only if it's a pizza worth 10k btc [21:01]
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copumpkin http://tripatlas.com/guides/Culinary/169/Top_5_Most_Expensive_Pizzas_in_the_World [21:01]
mircea_popescu Repeating my earlier point, the average bedroom measures a mere 86ft^2 [21:02]
mircea_popescu jesus fuck what doghouses do people live in over there ?! [21:02]
splatster I guess this is me: http://user.img.todaoferta.uol.com.br/W/W/Y4/0XZI2C/hugePhoto_0.jpg [21:03]
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mcorlett copumpkin: $12,000? Please... [21:03]
SteinerC ;;gpg eregister SteinerC 44885DB2743C5C4FB [21:04]
splatster Why am I a fucking children's toy? [21:05]
SteinerC ;;gpg eregister SteinerC 4885DB2743C5C4FB [21:05]
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rawrmage splatster: ahahahaa [21:06]
splatster rawrmage: IT'S NOT FUNNY! [21:07]
Cory Heh, I had better rates than Metabank was looking for. :( [21:08]
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Cory Thanks for trying anyway, mircea_popescu. :P [21:10]
mircea_popescu :p [21:10]
mircea_popescu i dunno what he meant, but hey, negotiating is the job of you two. [21:10]
Cory ;;buy 100 MTGUSD at 1.01 PPUSD [21:11]
gribble Order id 7183 created. [21:11]
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splatster I think I'm going to make this my avatar just because I live in idaho: http://www.warpzoned.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/800px-Wide-Main-Image_8.png [21:13]
mircea_popescu anyone explain what flexcoin exactly is ? [21:13]
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mircea_popescu cause "bitcoin bank" doesn't seem to make much sense. [21:13]
EvanR why not [21:14]
mircea_popescu because bitcoins don't have inflation. [21:14]
EvanR banks arent for that [21:14]
mircea_popescu ummm... anyone that actually understands finance explain what flexcoin exactly is ? [21:14]
EvanR banks would work without inflation [21:14]
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splatster I don't think flexcoin is very clear about how they make money or if they even pay interest. [21:14]
mircea_popescu why am i depositing my money with a bank if there's no inflation dood. [21:15]
EvanR to make money [21:15]
EvanR or to keep it safe [21:15]
EvanR or both [21:15]
mircea_popescu safe from the fuck what ? [21:15]
EvanR some asshole stealing it out of your pocket [21:15]
splatster Someone look at my soon-to-be avatar if people like it! [21:15]
mircea_popescu splatster yeah i couldn't figure it out either, but they're full of boasty claims about how "it's an essential part of the infrastructure" etc and i don't quite get it. [21:15]
mircea_popescu evanr you mean the "banker" ? [21:15]
EvanR they are scamming [21:15]
splatster mircea_popescu: it doesn't make munch sense. [21:16]
EvanR if the bank is successful, they arent stealing your money [21:16]
EvanR flexcoin is a joke [21:16]
EvanR just another joke site with nice styling [21:16]
SteinerC I am now GPG Authenticated :D [21:16]
mircea_popescu evanr : my money in my wallet can't be stolen. bitcoin websites of all ilks go under all the time. you know ? [21:16]
splatster The only places that seem more like banks are the lenders collecting money in "banks" on bitcointalk. [21:16]
EvanR lol? [21:16]
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SteinerC ;;rate jjjrmy-m 1 In person trade, PPUSD for 3 BTC, went great [21:16]
splatster Any thoughts? http://www.warpzoned.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/800px-Wide-Main-Image_8.png [21:17]
SteinerC jjjrmy-m: rate me when you get a second [21:17]
mircea_popescu splatster : ya, but i mean why pay some middleman a cut ? just deal with the investors straight up. [21:17]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: Why do people buy options? [21:17]
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mircea_popescu to avoid loss. [21:17]
EvanR first, we were talking about banks in general, all banks dont make sense without inflation because bitcoin wallets cant be cracked? anyway you can [21:17]
EvanR still steal wallets [21:17]
splatster mircea_popescu: exactly. [21:17]
mircea_popescu that's the key element. if it's not insuring against any sort of possible loss it doesn't make sense. [21:17]
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splatster Banks make sense if they are FDIC insured. [21:17]
EvanR mircea_popescu: in what universe do you have bitcoins totally safe? [21:17]
EvanR from intrusion or whatever [21:18]
mircea_popescu in this one. [21:18]
mircea_popescu my bitcoins are totally safe, from intrusion or whatever. [21:18]
EvanR printed out on OCR paper and stored inside frozen limabeans in your freezer? [21:18]
EvanR inconvenient for spending [21:18]
mircea_popescu novusordo, just protected by passphrase not stored anywhere. [21:18]
mircea_popescu omg if i highlight that guy one more time ima kill myself. [21:18]
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splatster Paper wallets, they're awesome. [21:18]
mircea_popescu every time i go to type no he ends up called up. [21:18]
vragnaroda lol [21:19]
mircea_popescu i feel so bad for it too :( [21:19]
mircea_popescu might end up taking out my tab key. [21:19]
splatster vragnaroda: Thoughts on this becoming my avatar? http://www.warpzoned.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/800px-Wide-Main-Image_8.png [21:19]
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SteinerC ;;gpg eauth SteinerC [21:20]
mcorlett SteinerC: Still having problems? [21:20]
SteinerC Nope [21:20]
SteinerC Got it all sorted out [21:20]
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SteinerC Can you check my Auth? [21:21]
vragnaroda splatster: Don't hilight me for bullshit. [21:21]
splatster ;;ident SteinerC [21:21]
gribble Nick 'SteinerC', with hostmask 'SteinerC!~Christian@72.189.214.192', is not identified. [21:21]
splatster vragnaroda: sorry 'bout that. [21:21]
SteinerC spatter, so is it good or no? [21:21]
SteinerC splaster* sorry [21:22]
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splatster no it doesn't look like you're authed [21:22]
SteinerC Are you serious? [21:22]
SteinerC :o [21:22]
splatster SteinerC: join #bitcoin-otc-foyer [21:22]
SteinerC and go to the first link? [21:23]
mcorlett SteinerC: No, authenticate in there. We can see the messages. [21:23]
SteinerC Hm? [21:23]
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splatster ;;gpg info SteinerC [21:28]
gribble User 'SteinerC', with keyid 4885DB2743C5C4FB and fingerprint 6A9AD940B11E5F9AF7940D654885DB2743C5C4FB, registered on Wed Mar 14 12:15:39 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask SteinerC!~Christian@72.189.214.192 [21:28]
splatster Yes, you are authed now. [21:28]
SteinerC Okay cool [21:28]
SteinerC brb [21:28]
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SteinerC ;;eauth SteinerC [21:28]
SteinerC ;;gpg eauth SteinerC [21:29]
SteinerC Am I still registered? [21:29]
vragnaroda SteinerC: You don't need to auth again. [21:29]
vragnaroda ;;ident SteinerC [21:29]
gribble Nick 'SteinerC', with hostmask 'SteinerC!~Christian@72.189.214.192', is not identified. [21:29]
SteinerC ....... [21:29]
vragnaroda Never mind, you parted. [21:29]
netxshare does listtransactions not show received coins? [21:29]
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vragnaroda Why'd you do that after so much difficulty? [21:29]
splatster Maybe we should get him a plugin. [21:29]
vragnaroda Parting does unauth you. [21:29]
vragnaroda No, fuck that. [21:30]
splatster SteinerC: Which IRC client do you use? [21:30]
SteinerC Colloquy [21:30]
vragnaroda Learn to do it right before you start cheating. [21:30]
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splatster ya that's probably best [21:30]
SteinerC ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:4fc0632e7e79d6ff1691931f22a19878ad73431475de1dba84558254 [21:30]
gribble You are now authenticated for user SteinerC with key 4885DB2743C5C4FB [21:30]
SteinerC Okay [21:30]
SteinerC ident me [21:30]
vragnaroda SteinerC: just do ;;ident [21:30]
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SteinerC ;;ident [21:31]
gribble You are identified as user SteinerC, with GPG key id 4885DB2743C5C4FB, and key fingerprint 6A9AD940B11E5F9AF7940D654885DB2743C5C4FB. [21:31]
SteinerC Okay [21:31]
SteinerC So now every time I join what do I type in? [21:31]
mircea_popescu http://www.flexcoin.com/?page_id=103 [21:31]
neofutur eauth [21:31]
neofutur everify [21:31]
mircea_popescu o im clear now. they "solve bitcoin's problems" [21:31]
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SteinerC so gig earth everify SteinerC [21:31]
SteinerC gpg* [21:31]
mircea_popescu this is pretty much like a manufacturer of kits to solve automobile's problems : [21:31]
SteinerC eauth* [21:31]
mircea_popescu add horse fart scent, limit max speed etc. [21:32]
splatster Step 1: /msg gribble ;;eauth [21:32]
splatster Step 2: Click on the bitcoin-otc.com link gribble PMs you and decrypt the contents of that web page [21:32]
splatster Step 3: /msg gribble ;;everify [21:32]
SteinerC everytime? [21:32]
netxshare * -1 [21:32]
vragnaroda Every time. [21:32]
netxshare that did what I needed [21:32]
mcorlett Everytime. [21:32]
neofutur everytime you want to auth and trade [21:32]
vragnaroda lol @ click on link [21:32]
neofutur eerytime you want to prove us you are the real SteinerC [21:32]
SteinerC Okay [21:32]
mircea_popescu "Any merchant that can’t wait three days to get paid for a cup of coffee (or any other goods or services) should consider accepting flexcoins as a form of payment." [21:33]
SteinerC Kk [21:33]
SteinerC Thanks everyone [21:33]
mircea_popescu wtf. they're from the future. [21:33]
vragnaroda splatster: Gribble doesn't give you a link. Gribble gives you an unformmated URL. :P [21:33]
neofutur and havent lost your gpg key or passphrease yet [21:33]
splatster ugh [21:33]
splatster my client makes it a link [21:33]
vragnaroda mircea_popescu: lol [21:33]
mircea_popescu srsly tho, this is what they do : build a sort of fake website credits on top of bitcoins, which "solves bitcoin's problems" [21:33]
mircea_popescu specifically, it being flexible, efficient and secure. [21:33]
mircea_popescu all these, solved. [21:34]
mircea_popescu you get all the downside of normal internet banking, plus none of the upside. [21:34]
mircea_popescu and this makes sense because they're really excited. [21:34]
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mcorlett vragnaroda: Was that a typo or is "unformmated" O-K? [21:35]
vragnaroda That was a typo. [21:35]
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mircea_popescu Bitcoins do not allow for charge backs, period. However, in the future, flexcoins will allow for a limited charge back period. [21:36]
mircea_popescu This feature is not implemented in the initial rollout. It is our plan to (again, in the future) allow customers the ability to “take a charge back” until the vendor accepts the transfer. [21:36]
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rawrmage mircea_popescu: haha what [21:37]
rawrmage uselesscoin [21:37]
mircea_popescu i am serious. there is this thing, which apparently is very important for the infrastructure [21:37]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: They'd have to prevent withdrawals for N days to give a window for the buyer to make the chargeback claim. [21:37]
mircea_popescu called flexacoin [21:38]
mircea_popescu nono mcorlett, cause it's for people who can't wait three days to pay for something [21:38]
mircea_popescu i've never had a payment take 3 days yet, but i am guessing since it's on their site it must be right. [21:38]
rawrmage oh [21:38]
rawrmage it's like a payment processor [21:38]
rawrmage not an altchain [21:38]
mircea_popescu its pretty much the ugly version of paypal. [21:38]
rawrmage i thought it was an altchain [21:38]
mircea_popescu i don't think the people behind it have the tech knolwedge to make an alt chain. [21:39]
btcsantander that service was recently sold, right? [21:40]
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Cory It's changing owners, yup. [21:41]
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mcorlett It was sold to a certain James Gray, going under the nickname of mark_logan. [21:41]
mircea_popescu its changing owners to a guy with no experience who apparently can't show much other than being 29 [21:41]
RedEmerald http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2 [21:41]
mircea_popescu but at least the thread was entertaining to read. [21:42]
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phraust anyone want to help fund me so I can build a hotel in tahiti? [21:43]
mircea_popescu take it to glbse :p [21:44]
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btcsantander !btc, convert eu [21:57]
btcsantander !btc, convert eur [21:57]
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btcsantander it doesnt work this way? [21:58]
neofutur ;;btc, convert eur [21:58]
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neofutur nop [21:59]
kakobreklaaa its !bc,convert eur [21:59]
btcsantander aaah [21:59]
btcsantander thanks again, kakobreklaaa :P [21:59]
btcsantander !bc, convert eur [21:59]
btcsantander !bc, convert eu [21:59]
kakobreklaaa copy paste it: !bc,convert eur [22:00]
mircea_popescu so are we going to see 5.5 ? [22:00]
btcsantander !bc,convert eur [22:00]
gribble 1 BTC = 5.4014 U.S. dollars = 4.13900383 Euros [22:00]
btcsantander perfect :) [22:00]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: over 9000!! [22:00]
mircea_popescu u set us the bomb ? [22:01]
Kaboom yo [22:01]
vragnaroda 요 [22:01]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: "set up us" [22:02]
copumpkin get it right [22:02]
mircea_popescu get the wrong right ?! [22:02]
mircea_popescu copumpkin don't make me report you to the state police [22:02]
mircea_popescu AND the cyber police. [22:02]
copumpkin :) [22:02]
* copumpkin cyb0rz mircea_popescu [22:02]
mircea_popescu i backtraced that. [22:03]
copumpkin VB GUI? [22:03]
EvanR and the fashion police [22:03]
copumpkin thought police? [22:03]
EvanR and the fun police [22:03]
mircea_popescu crustacean police [22:03]
grubles who done hilighted yours truly [22:05]
mircea_popescu from the desk of my pr girl : "lol it's set us up not set up us. poor guy can't nazi correctly!" [22:06]
mircea_popescu you've been had mr exoticfruit. [22:06]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: "set up us" is the original [22:08]
copumpkin check out the zero wing transcripts :P [22:09]
mircea_popescu must have been before her time [22:09]
copumpkin main screen turn on! [22:09]
copumpkin somebody set up us the bomb! [22:09]
grubles get out of there it's gonna blow [22:09]
mircea_popescu omg you buncha geeks you :D [22:09]
grubles negative [22:10]
copumpkin :P [22:10]
grubles you take the point! [22:10]
mircea_popescu she doth protest, and i quoth, [22:10]
mircea_popescu omg nowai. (short interval). oh the shame...! this whole time! [22:10]
copumpkin lol [22:10]
copumpkin anyone enjoy http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/bank-of-america-too-crooked-to-fail-20120314 ? [22:11]
mircea_popescu seems exotic fruits have their laugh in the end. [22:11]
copumpkin I wouldn't call myself particularly exotic [22:11]
copumpkin a fruit, maybe [22:11]
mircea_popescu omg i just put that link in like two hours ago! [22:11]
copumpkin oh [22:12]
mircea_popescu this is INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT OF OWNERSHIP! [22:12]
* copumpkin pays mircea_popescu a 20k btc licensing fee [22:12]
mircea_popescu that's too much, ill take half. [22:12]
copumpkin oh ok [22:12]
mircea_popescu comes to about one old pizza. [22:13]
mircea_popescu we should have a party when there's finally 8 digits of bitcoins in circulation. [22:14]
Raccoon You like Bitcoin? You should know about Cryptography. Take the (absolutely) FREE Stanford University Online Cryptography Class and learn a thing or two. Lectures started yesturday. Sign up and watch them. https://www.coursera.org/crypto/auth/welcome (They even discuss digital currencies) [22:15]
copumpkin Santorum approves [22:16]
* Raccoon explodes into a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter. [22:16]
Kaboom #bitcoin-otc-ticker [22:18]
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mircea_popescu lmao evil. [22:23]
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copumpkin mircea_popescu: what does it mean when there's negative open interest? [22:36]
mircea_popescu thart someone sold short [22:36]
copumpkin hm [22:36]
mircea_popescu basically, that im holding the options rather than having written them [22:36]
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copumpkin so you let someone else write them? [22:37]
Kaboom ;;btc, convert eur [22:37]
mircea_popescu well yes that's the ideea of short selling. [22:37]
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mircea_popescu i announced you can now sell short and also go in the middle a week ago, you must have missed it ? [22:38]
copumpkin hmm, I guess I did :) [22:38]
mircea_popescu :p [22:38]
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copumpkin :) [22:39]
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splatster Making bots for bitcoins! [22:43]
Raccoon splatster: did you sign up for the crypto class? [22:43]
splatster Raccoon: ya [22:44]
jcpham the rollingstone article is good [22:46]
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jcpham when i was a teenager i was told to invest in local banks [22:47]
jcpham because of deregulation and the BoA success story [22:47]
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mircea_popescu never do what you're told. [22:48]
jurov yes, obey mircea [22:49]
jcpham i know, i'm just saying [22:50]
jcpham i was always told that...even while in college [22:50]
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jcpham "the safe investment is banks" [22:50]
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Kaboom 'apropos bc' [22:53]
Kaboom ;;'apropos bc' [22:53]
mcorlett ;;apropos 'bc' [22:54]
gribble No appropriate commands were found. [22:54]
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mircea_popescu well, back in the 70s and 80s that was true [22:58]
mircea_popescu as it becomes the case for all truths, it's eventually more productive to use them to scam than to keep upholding them [22:58]
pigeons someone whispered "plastics" in my ear [22:58]
mircea_popescu so in the 90s and 2000s the banks were the worst place to keep your money. [22:58]
mircea_popescu same shit with government, at some point it was wholesome, now its corrupt, next itll be wholesome again and on and on [22:59]
mircea_popescu the endless cycle of shit to food to shit to food we call life. [22:59]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Have you made any worthwhile changes to MPEX? [23:00]
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mircea_popescu by worthwhile you mean what ? [23:01]
Kaboom ;;apropos 'bc' [23:04]
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mcorlett mircea_popescu: Significant, worth taking a look at. [23:07]
mircea_popescu well did you even buy/sell anything yet ? [23:07]
mcorlett Are there any buy orders? [23:08]
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mircea_popescu atm the book isn't published, so you don't know [23:08]
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mircea_popescu compute a value for the imaginary stocks and decide if you want to buy or sell [23:08]
mircea_popescu it's play pretebnd after all, so roleplay. [23:09]
warcrafter sell paysafecard for btc [23:09]
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drossano ;;guide [23:11]
Kaboom ;;guide [23:11]
Kaboom ;;fraud [23:12]
mcorlett mircea_popescu: Your order to BUY 1 SxTES1 @0.00000100BTC each has been received and will be processed. This order will never expire. [23:12]
mcorlett Come at me, bro! [23:12]
Kaboom ;;help [23:12]
mcorlett Kaboom: Check your private messages. It should be just above this chat. [23:13]
mcorlett Oh, nevermind. [23:14]
Raccoon 0.000,001,00 BTC should become a convention [23:14]
Kaboom !facts [23:16]
Kaboom !hey bot ,,ping [23:16]
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mcorlett Kaboom: If you want to play around with the bot, I suggest #gribble. [23:17]
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Kaboom !help [23:19]
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mcorlett Kaboom: If you want to play around with the bot, I suggest #gribble. [23:19]
Kaboom tx [23:20]
Kaboom #gribble. [23:20]
mcorlett /join #gribble [23:20]
Kaboom thank you [23:21]
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mircea_popescu lolz [23:24]
mircea_popescu lessee here mcorlett [23:25]
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mircea_popescu check it. [23:26]
mcorlett Nice. [23:28]
jcpham if we are going to roleplay, I want an outfit [23:28]
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drossano ;;guide [23:30]
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EvanR jcpham: french maid? [23:36]
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phraust oh, that's nice. [23:39]
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rawrmage vragnaroda: baaaaan? [23:41]
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rawrmage (not me) [23:42]
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vragnaroda rawrmage: Woohoo, I timed it right just in case he fixed it after that join. [23:42]
vragnaroda He'll see the ban in his log, anyway. [23:42]
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rawrmage lol [23:43]
terry nicely done [23:43]
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matteblack hey hey hey so who can send me btc for moneybookers [23:44]
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matteblack anyone? [23:45]
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terry matteblack: yeah... no thanks [23:47]
matteblack :( [23:48]
terry matteblack: I will consider it if you send me a picture showing your face, identification, and a shoe on your head [23:48]
matteblack haha good one [23:49]
terry I am serious. Not only will I trade with you for amounts of up to 10 BTC, I will give you 1 BTC no matter what. This is a very competitive offer. [23:49]
matteblack how about 18 btc and i send the money first eh? how do i check ratings again? [23:53]
terry Does it include the picture with identification, your face, and a shoe on your head? [23:54]
matteblack ya [23:55]
jcpham is the shoe to prove he's real? [23:56]
jcpham and not a bot [23:56]
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pigeons the shoe is for nsfw times [23:59]
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