Forum logs for 14 Feb 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mod6 <+pete_dushenski> mod6: all my hashes on 99996k_2 match :) << awesome, thanks for checking that out [00:44]
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danielpbarron BCB, type /msg assbot !up [01:05]
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ben_vulpes so cusp -> cuspy -> cuspily [02:40]
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ben_vulpes it ain't conjugation 'cause it ain't a verb, (and this question clearly makes me an "ESL" speaker) so what is the linguistic term of art for constructing language elements like this? [02:41]
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mircea_popescu there isn't a "like this" [02:41]
mircea_popescu in general, re parts of speech, it's called flexion. [02:42]
mircea_popescu verbs have conjugations, nouns have declensions. [02:42]
mircea_popescu there's also derivation, when stems are altered to fit concepts. [02:42]
mircea_popescu verbal flexion follows tense, aspect and number accord with the nouns. it also applies to adverbs in some languages. noun declension follows case and number. these are grammar rules. [02:43]
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mircea_popescu derivation on the other hand is how you obtain lesser from less, or beautiful from beauty, so it's prolly what you were after. [02:44]
ben_vulpes c'est possible [02:44]
ben_vulpes i'm frustrated by having been taught a myriad of languages (to retard-level competence only), but NEVER LATIN [02:47]
mircea_popescu that's unfortunate. [02:48]
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ben_vulpes nothing like the forum to point out the inadequacies of one's history [02:50]
mircea_popescu anyway, most latin speakers in the history of that language learned it as adults. [02:50]
mircea_popescu the fate of all successful empires. [02:50]
ben_vulpes i have only learned programming languages as an adult [02:52]
ben_vulpes aaa [02:53]
ben_vulpes i just referred to myself as an adult [02:53]
mircea_popescu lol [02:54]
ben_vulpes huh [02:59]
ben_vulpes i suppose a 'learn latin as an adult' strategy is going to take a few weeks to cook up. [02:59]
mircea_popescu what's the rush. [03:00]
ben_vulpes every day i'm closer to dying and my myelin sheaths less conductive? [03:00]
mircea_popescu that's a myth. [03:02]
mircea_popescu what was i saying ? [03:02]
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punkman bon dia https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B1wE4HfCAAAYFAH.jpg:large [03:02]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20TeMun ) [03:02]
mircea_popescu (incidentally the fucking point of myelin is to not conduct. it's the dielectric in the arrangement.) [03:03]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 7.00000000 BTC on 'No' - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee - http://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/#b27 [03:05]
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asciilifeform aha like the nylon in coax cable [03:06]
asciilifeform !s myelin [03:07]
assbot 8 results for 'myelin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=myelin [03:07]
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asciilifeform see ^ old mega-thread. [03:07]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-02-2016#1405357 << go, learn [03:08]
assbot Logged on 14-02-2016 05:43:45; ben_vulpes: i'm frustrated by having been taught a myriad of languages (to retard-level competence only), but NEVER LATIN [03:08]
asciilifeform srsly languages aren't hard , wtf [03:08]
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ben_vulpes i simply have not yet [03:11]
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punkman https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/16/this-startup-bets-10000-that-your-marriage-will-end-badly/ [03:25]
assbot This startup bets up to $10,000 that your marriage will end badly - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/20TglIG ) [03:25]
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mircea_popescu hehe nice punkman [03:55]
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punkman in other latin news http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/feb/10/ancient-greek-manuscripts-reveal-life-lessons-from-the-roman-empire [04:13]
assbot Ancient Greek manuscripts reveal life lessons from the Roman empire | Books | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Tgoxg4 ) [04:13]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin to top $600 before Jul 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1232/bitcoin-to-top-600-before-jul-2016/#b26 [04:36]
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punkman lol "Several hospital staff members said the computer system was hacked and was being held on a ransom of 3.4 billion in bitcoins" http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/FBI-LAPD-Investigating-Hollywood-Hospital-Cyber-Attack-368703121.html [04:42]
assbot FBI, LAPD Investigating Hollywood Hospital Cyber Attack | NBC Southern California ... ( http://bit.ly/20whUH9 ) [04:42]
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deedbot- [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b97 [07:49]
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mircea_popescu lol @x.eur [10:02]
mircea_popescu !up Bettermint [10:02]
-assbot- You voiced Bettermint for 30 minutes. [10:02]
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mircea_popescu punkman srsly, 3.4bn ?! [10:02]
BingoBoingo Well, it's hollywood. Could be those Best Koreans again... [10:04]
mircea_popescu lol [10:06]
mircea_popescu actually a sort of commedia could be made where a fake bitcoin internet group attacks the hollywood fake hospital they use in films, and encrypts their made up records to be recovered upon payment of large sum in scamcoin. [10:07]
BingoBoingo It just seems very Best Korean to focus on the entertainment industry and not... literally anything else. [10:10]
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punkman probably typo, like the qntra posts that turn billions to millions, but in reverse [10:23]
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punkman actually surprised that no altcoin inventor yet has come up with ransomware as a feature [10:27]
mircea_popescu aha. [10:27]
punkman "our new wallet features built-in ransomware and keylogger" [10:28]
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mircea_popescu lol [10:36]
mircea_popescu "give your friends the gift of blackmail!" [10:36]
mircea_popescu (actually - this is a pretty well represented subculture, contrary to what intuition may be telling you) [10:37]
BingoBoingo Apparently a new spambot turn on while I was sleeping: "I sat up in a cold sweat. Had someone's hand rellay been over my mouth or was I dreaming. My hotel room was pitch black save for the dim glow of my laptop screen. The Boingo application blinked angrily at me as the wifi had obviously been interrupted suddenly. My midnight snack, a half-eaten cream puff, lay awkwardly on the floor.Suddenly, I heard a wicked scream just before [11:01]
BingoBoingo a dark figure in the corner started moving toward me. I tried to roll out of bed but realized my feet were tied to the bed. What the hell was happening?" [11:01]
BingoBoingo AI at work [11:02]
mircea_popescu sounds like women in text. [11:04]
BingoBoingo Another machine generated gem: Stop screaming I was thknniig wait that was me screaming. Where is Cream Puff? I told them we shouldn’t come to the Boingo house. Everyone knows it’s haunted. There are all sorts of wicked smells coming from the basement and now the basement has Cream Puff. Who knew what sort of ghoulish things they may do to her then I see her … it’s Cream Puff I think….she came from the back of the house. [11:05]
BingoBoingo Her eyes all glazed over; her body shaking. She never was the same dog after the Boingo house that fateful Halloween night. [11:05]
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mircea_popescu maybe save these for reddit ? [11:09]
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mircea_popescu and in further baltimore news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4thlkldUf1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [11:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1oBtm8q ) [11:10]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Out of 50 these were the only ones of interest [11:11]
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BingoBoingo In other news facebook.com in any part of a comment to qntra no longer passes go, goes straight to hell never to be seen. [11:13]
mircea_popescu hey, they wanna be on qntra let them use our advertising platform. [11:13]
BingoBoingo Seriously. Reddit level AI bot was linking nothing but facebook and such a variety of things there's no other way to prevent it from reemerging. [11:14]
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deedbot- [Trilema] The Burbuja! - http://trilema.com/2016/the-burbuja/ [11:21]
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kakobrekla http://www.htius.com < this looks sort of interesting, anyone got a comment on it? [11:22]
assbot Hamilton Technologies ... ( http://bit.ly/1oBuqt9 ) [11:22]
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shinohai http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2016-02-09/news/70480113_1_self-help-groups-swachh-bharat-mission-clean-india [11:37]
assbot Govt asks banks to pitch in to make India open defecation free - timesofindia-economictimes ... ( http://bit.ly/1QAuY92 ) [11:37]
shinohai tired of designated shitting streets. [11:38]
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punkman kakobrekla: wtf is that [11:43]
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kakobrekla cant tell you anything more than what the pages says [11:45]
kakobrekla -s [11:45]
BingoBoingo shinohai: Now's your chance to audition for qntra. You've got a story, now your headline is "Indian Government And Banks Suppressing Cornerstone Of Local Culture" [11:48]
shinohai Because Qntra is dedicated to preserving Indian rights to shit in the street? [11:49]
BingoBoingo shinohai: Because Qntra points out ACTUAL oppression like this. [11:50]
BingoBoingo Anyways I thought most areas in India where this is popular they generally had designated shitting fields. [11:53]
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shinohai "The Indian Government declined to comment as to whether they would also provide a toilet to Preet Bharara, so he would stop shitting in American streets and court buildings." [11:57]
punkman ah apparently some Apollo mission thing, built on Ada [11:57]
BingoBoingo "so he would stop shitting class of Americans that apires to productivity" [11:57]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-02-2016#1405476 << holy fuq, the sheer 'visual pr000000gramming!' crapolade ! [12:01]
assbot Logged on 14-02-2016 14:18:39; kakobrekla: http://www.htius.com < this looks sort of interesting, anyone got a comment on it? [12:01]
asciilifeform sooooo visual! [12:01]
kakobrekla hypercard anyone? [12:01]
punkman https://medium.com/@3fingeredfox/margaret-hamilton-lead-software-engineer-project-apollo-158754170da8 [12:03]
assbot Margaret Hamilton, lead software engineer, Project Apollo — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/243BbnL ) [12:03]
asciilifeform not even the demented author of hypertalk thought that drawing the limbs the of the ast was a good idea... [12:03]
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asciilifeform anyway, looks like nail clippings... and i'm an esolang aficionado, even. [12:05]
asciilifeform and proprietary crudlang, on top of this. [12:06]
asciilifeform couldn't try it even if i wanted. [12:06]
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asciilifeform i'll use a proprietary compiler shortly after my appointment as reichsminister, where i will commute to ft. meade on flying pig over a frozen hell. [12:09]
shinohai BingoBoingo: where to send poo in loo submission when finished? [12:12]
BingoBoingo sign and encrypt it and get the text to me somehow. [12:12]
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kakobrekla compiler? it generates the code to be compiled. apparently can generate ada too. [12:13]
shinohai kk [12:13]
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asciilifeform wtf, why would ~generated~ ada seem like a good idea. [12:14]
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asciilifeform but i will add that this thing is extremely appealing when seen in contrast with microshit, and thus survives [12:15]
kakobrekla because ada has huge overhead? [12:15]
asciilifeform this is an entire business model, if one can call usgtronics 'business' [12:16]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla 17 Inman Street Cambridge,Massachusetts02139, 1-5mn revenue, 10-20 employees. looks like one of the [very numerous, usually derpy] some-guys-on-mit-campus-incorporeted-a-something deals. [12:16]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: no, because generated code is idiocy [12:17]
asciilifeform unreadable crud [12:17]
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copypaste asciilifeform: it's business if you can cash into BTC; not whether you have the foresight to do so, but whether you have the ability to [12:18]
mircea_popescu (617) 492-0058 if you feel like asking orally. [12:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: with my luck, i'll end up working there next ! [12:18]
mircea_popescu hey, you earned it! [12:19]
asciilifeform prolly [12:19]
asciilifeform pet informs me that the hamilton chick is being passed around the pheminizm circles [12:20]
asciilifeform did she keel over recently? or why. [12:20]
kakobrekla i know you are not a fan of abstraction but you also didnt write 'v' in machine code [12:27]
asciilifeform actually i like abstraction. [12:27]
kakobrekla afaik home computers werent good for much before the 'basic' came around [12:27]
kakobrekla do you suggest the current level of abs is the best there is and ever will be [12:28]
asciilifeform what i dislike is crud that adds nothing. [12:28]
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asciilifeform i like, e.g., 'j'. [12:28]
asciilifeform and even apl. [12:28]
asciilifeform even haskell, i admit has a bright side. [12:29]
kakobrekla i suspect we need to break out of this 'writing code' thing we do, like we did with machine code. [12:29]
asciilifeform but what spiffy abstraction am i missing in the linked nail clippings? [12:29]
copypaste it is just a new language, is what you're missing. all languages are just machine code generators [12:30]
kakobrekla im not claiming the linked implementation is worth much but i suspect it has some good ideas, like not 'writing code' anymore. [12:30]
asciilifeform realize, there is not nor cannot be any escape from actually specifying a problem. [12:30]
copypaste it's an IDE for a new proprietary language. it's crud, sure, but code generation isn't bad by itself [12:30]
BingoBoingo In absurdly popular subreddits, /r/vandwellers/ has 26,000+ subscribers [12:31]
asciilifeform the spec can look like, say, 'prolog' (constraint-based programming) BUT you still have to ... program! [12:31]
asciilifeform copypaste: not new [12:31]
kakobrekla this is like claiming 'you still need to machine code' in the seventies [12:31]
asciilifeform mno [12:32]
asciilifeform more like 'still need arithmetic' [12:32]
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kakobrekla but you do arithmetic with 'special symbols', visually, not in plaintext (as argued not so long ago with mo) [12:36]
kakobrekla with mp* [12:36]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo> In absurdly popular subreddits, /r/vandwellers/ has 26,000+ subscribers << i suspect living in a van will be the new middle class in the us. [12:38]
mircea_popescu "hey, at least i don't live in the projects. i choose who rapes me!" [12:39]
BingoBoingo lol [12:39]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla while he is stuck in a very hard to defend middle, still, i gotta say this "code generators" line you're arguing has a lot in common with the "betterment" that was to come from autocading all architecture. [12:40]
mircea_popescu it still has failed to materialize. [12:40]
mircea_popescu meanwhile medicine goes through the same process as we speak, and the deleterious effects are pointedly obvious. [12:40]
mircea_popescu for that matter, the move from asm to c/basic HAS resulted in shittier programs throughout. [12:41]
asciilifeform aha and so i even liked 'mathematica' [12:41]
asciilifeform but the hamilton thing is garbage. [12:41]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was largely from lowering the entry bar. [12:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform for the sake of argument, consider this issue : but the hamilton thing is garbage. ; hamiltoninc : "Here are some properties and features that make 001 unique: Always number one when put to the test." [12:42]
kakobrekla actually without 'code generators' your computer is useless, its just a matter of how away from the bedrock your abstraction is [12:42]
mircea_popescu now how do i, as a third party, resolve this dispute ? [12:42]
mircea_popescu note that they're not even fucking contradictory ffs. [12:43]
kakobrekla and to think current setup is optimal seems far fetched to me. [12:43]
mircea_popescu the "we are living in best possible world" argument is broken by definition. [12:44]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: did i say this?? where? [12:45]
kakobrekla somewhere in the logs where you pasted a pic of a triple integral or somesuch [12:46]
kakobrekla i dont recall [12:46]
mircea_popescu actually, let's cut the discussion to a particularly comfortable example : the internet was "going to open up human knowledge". instead it has created the WORST fucking style of prose the english language has ever known. tedious, humourless but contrived, inept and coming up short in all measures, from cracked to wikipedia the language is bleeding. there is not more knowledge but less, and even its clothes are haggard [12:46]
mircea_popescu as never before. [12:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you resolve it by sending the proprietary crud to hell [12:46]
mircea_popescu this shit just doesn't work and is certainly no solution. [12:46]
kakobrekla or was it a matrix [12:47]
mircea_popescu i recall a matrix. [12:47]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: elementary iq-drop-from-admitting-human-waste situation [12:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform and its network effects. which are never well accounted for. [12:47]
mircea_popescu but allowing one rotten apple in rots the set, and allowing one lazy slavegirl ruins the lot and so on. [12:47]
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asciilifeform kakobrekla: aha. understand, i like rich notation, MEANINGFUL graphical devices, etc. [12:48]
mircea_popescu meaning is not a property of things. [12:48]
asciilifeform But this is crud. tell me, what does drawing the ast ADD??? [12:49]
mircea_popescu i don't see what drawing the matrix adds, either. arguing to ignorance alfie ? [12:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: MEANINGLESSNESS can, however, be. [12:49]
mircea_popescu it can be, but it's a much tougher nut than generally understood. [12:49]
mircea_popescu you can prove that meaning is impossible, just not trivially. [12:50]
asciilifeform go and make for me something i can use in place of a matrix. [12:50]
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kakobrekla i am not defending the implementation, just that there might be some merit to the ideas presented there. why do you chart v patches?! [12:50]
mircea_popescu (in fact, the lulzy otp discussion last week was EXACTLY re proven absence of meaning) [12:50]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: have you seen interlisp ? [12:50]
kakobrekla i dont think so [12:50]
asciilifeform that was where she lifted the interesting part. [12:51]
asciilifeform it had a structure editor [12:51]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform> that was where she lifted the interesting part. << lol nicely put, what meaning is contemplated ? "she [metaphorical person] lifted her skirt, rather than shoes and sleeves and whatnot random insanities" "she [interlisp author] stole the good bits for once, rather than dubious ux or w/e" [12:52]
asciilifeform incidentally i cannot tell, from the screenshots, whether that thing has a structure editor, like interlisp, or merely clutters the display [12:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i`d answer but my gas mask cartridge needs changing [12:53]
mircea_popescu burbujas! [12:53]
asciilifeform Aha! [12:53]
kakobrekla there is a workflow video buried somewhere on site. [12:54]
asciilifeform btw youbastard!111 now i wonder if i have it11! [12:54]
mircea_popescu you're well & come. [12:54]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: i`ll watch it when i get my computer back together [12:54]
asciilifeform (right now i`m on a toystore thing) [12:55]
asciilifeform but if you like structure editors, interlisp (destroyed by commonlisp, incidentally, and by symbolics, as described in the pitman link from mircea_popescu ) is your sunken atlantis ! [12:56]
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punkman /me remembers a hospital visit that concluded in a thunderous fart while doctor was palpating [12:57]
kakobrekla i dont see it as a 'cake of death' question, more like 'piss or shit' one. [12:57]
kakobrekla 'cake OR death' i meant. [12:58]
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punkman "The history of Vandwelling goes back to horse drawn vehicles such as Roma Vardo wagons in Europe, and covered Conestoga wagons in the United States. One of the first uses of the term Vandwellers was in the United Kingdom showman and Van Dwellers' Protection Association, a guild for travelling show performers formed in the late 1800s. Shortly afterwards in 1901, Albert Bigalow wrote “The [13:02]
punkman Vandwellers”, about people living on the verge of poverty having to live a nomadic life in horse drawn moving vans." [13:02]
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BingoBoingo Congrats to shinohai on his first qntra piece [13:11]
shinohai o/ I poo'd in the loo [13:11]
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shinohai Will remember to add the archive.is links next time though BingoBoingo, thanks [13:12]
BingoBoingo Fuege state https://i.imgur.com/o0eT4ni.jpg [13:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ogkNAg ) [13:18]
shinohai Sithosi? [13:19]
shinohai *Sitoshi [13:19]
shinohai >mfw "satoshi" is Bitcoin's shibboleth [13:20]
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mats what an excellent troll [14:10]
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BingoBoingo Now this is promising [14:17]
BingoBoingo http://jeff.mulb.us/articles/gwhb/gwhb.php [14:17]
assbot jeff blum - Gateway Handbook ... ( http://bit.ly/1SqanKw ) [14:17]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/hartsline/ [14:33]
ben_vulpes congratulations on surviving the bubble attempt mircea_popescu [14:33]
assbot Hart's line ... ( http://bit.ly/1mAQq5M ) [14:33]
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mircea_popescu "p [14:34]
BingoBoingo To be fair many markets do not overcome bubbles as robustly as mircea_popescu does [14:38]
mircea_popescu because no mucus. [14:38]
BingoBoingo Oil industry too? Not mucus but still has lubricant. [14:39]
mircea_popescu mucus is also sticky. [14:39]
BingoBoingo So are certain petroleum fractions [14:40]
mircea_popescu hm. not in same way i dun think. [14:40]
ben_vulpes "on the reception and detection of profound bullshit": http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923a/jdm15923a.pdf -> http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/5acbe1d5-c431-4e41-8d57-213e039e5764/?raw=true [14:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1lVysv0 ) [14:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Sqdnql ) [14:45]
ben_vulpes "This sort of [14:46]
ben_vulpes phenomenon is similar to what Buekens and Boudry (2015) [14:46]
ben_vulpes referred to as obscurantism (p. 1): “[when] the speaker... [14:46]
ben_vulpes [sets] up a game of verbal smoke and mirrors to suggest [14:46]
ben_vulpes depth and insight where none exists.”" [14:46]
ben_vulpes what is this obscurantist claptrap?! [14:46]
mod6 morning [14:48]
ben_vulpes why do people^H^H^H^H^H^Hbarbarians insist on this moronic 2-column publishing style [14:48]
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mod6 so was thinking about pushing out that v99995 today. [15:04]
mod6 but found an edge case that causes an infinte loop. [15:04]
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mod6 this happens if the antecedent hash matches the descendant hash. [15:05]
ben_vulpes i would like to see the vdiff that craps that down [15:07]
mod6 the fix for this amounts to adding one condition statement when building the map of hashes. [15:07]
ben_vulpes i am reminded of the "enumerating badness" thread [15:07]
mod6 ben_vulpes: it basically shouldn't ever happen, but it could and since; no means yes, yes means anal. [15:07]
ben_vulpes ideally a v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like and barfs on anything that doesn't look like that instead of trying to catch all of the edge cases [15:08]
mod6 to test it, i had to hand-diddle one of the vpatches. easy enough to do. if someone is doing something very strange or bad or whatever on their system it could lead to an infinate loop. [15:08]
ben_vulpes well at least it's not a fork bomb? [15:09]
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mod6 well, no forking going on. im guessing it'll die when it runs out of ram, but haven't checked that yet. [15:10]
mod6 what do you mean by "v impl. knows what vpatches are to look like" [15:10]
mod6 how would it know ahead of time, short of having a hash for the vpatch itself? [15:10]
ben_vulpes the structure, not the contents. 'fork bomb' was a joke, mod6. [15:11]
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ben_vulpes don't take me too seriously this morning mod6 i got dressed and went to the office before realizing it was still sunday [15:12]
mod6 yeah, in this regard, my V basically does know what to look for in a given vpatch file -- the thing it wasn't doing is checking that the hashes match eachother -- which can cause a downstream infinate loop when traversing the map. [15:12]
mod6 *infinte [15:13]
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mod6 no worries ben_vulpes. [15:13]
mod6 ive been a bit fried lately myself. [15:13]
mod6 ive got problems at the shit-shoveling factory that are giving me headaches :/ [15:14]
ben_vulpes good auld-gean stables [15:14]
mod6 so one of my cpu threads goes to 100% and memory usage starts to climb. [15:17]
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BingoBoingo why do people^H^H^H^H^H^Hbarbarians insist on this moronic 2-column publishing style << Journals demand it for printing [15:25]
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jurov https://medium.com/@21/true-micropayments-with-bitcoin-e64fec23ffd8#.cirap8jjc [15:30]
assbot True Micropayments with Bitcoin — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1odyMWM ) [15:30]
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jurov apparently opening and closing of the tab still requires macrotransactions [15:37]
shinohai That's good since that $400 box only produces pennies a week. [15:38]
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mod6 ok, so instead what I'll do here is add an automated test to check for this, so i don't regress later. and then most likely will put out a 3rd beta patch for people to test/review. [16:12]
mod6 then in a few days i'll consider publishing the bundle again. thanks for your support/patience/help, etc. [16:12]
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mircea_popescu so in "weird of the crowd" news, eulora player just bought an auctioned package from s.mg for 140, split it up, and barely managed to recoup HALF the cost. [16:30]
mircea_popescu this is possibly the weirdest thing i ever saw. [16:30]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: it basically shouldn't ever happen, but it could and since; no means yes, yes means anal. << lol io like how he thinks. [16:31]
mircea_popescu and cheers mod6 [16:32]
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shinohai https://medium.com/@barmstrong/i-ll-bet-you-5-000-that-bitcoin-s-first-hard-fork-works-out-just-fine-a380abbe97b3#.gbp4xpqms << [17:18]
assbot I’ll bet you $5,000 that bitcoin’s first hard fork works out just fine — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1ogRDRA ) [17:18]
mircea_popescu shinohai derp never heard of bitbet ? [17:19]
mircea_popescu "i am in bitcoin, i just don't know anything about it. like those people from new york that dunno what the chrysler building is!" [17:19]
shinohai Just a few days ago he equated Bitcoin to web browsers - fitting since they are the IE of BTC [17:21]
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mod6 http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000211.html [18:46]
assbot [BTC-dev] V [v99995] Beta 3 - Call For Testers! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xs3JTm ) [18:46]
mod6 Thanks mp [18:46]
mircea_popescu what'd i do ?! [18:47]
mod6 just for the 'cheers' & everything else :] [18:47]
mircea_popescu :p [18:47]
* asciilifeform back in business with 2x the cpu&ram [18:47]
mircea_popescu in other bitcoin news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3o42oWtSJ1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [18:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Xs3SGD ) [18:47]
mod6 i'll give it a few days and then will roll up a full bundle. i've got an automated test for this case now too. [18:48]
mod6 asciilifeform: for phuctor? [18:48]
asciilifeform nono [18:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141500 @ 0.00055194 = 78.0995 BTC [-] {2} [18:51]
asciilifeform for own box. [18:51]
mod6 ah cool [18:51]
mod6 mod6 heavy industries needs new box for mining [18:52]
mod6 ... there's this remote island where you can mine stuff like shiny rocks and rotten fruit. [18:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47009 @ 0.00055193 = 25.9457 BTC [-] {2} [18:59]
ben_vulpes happy valentines day and many blowjobs to all! [19:08]
ben_vulpes https://twitter.com/martinshkreli/status/698750951889506305 << blowjobs and lolz [19:08]
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ben_vulpes https://gcaptain.com/iran-oil-embargo-first-tankers-depart-for-europe-since-sanctions-ended/ << suezmax full of oil leaves iran headed for eu somewhere [19:12]
assbot Iran Oil Embargo - First Tankers Depart For Europe Since Sanctions End - gCaptain ... ( http://bit.ly/2443lix ) [19:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20814 @ 0.00056578 = 11.7761 BTC [+] [19:14]
shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-02-2016#1405720 <<< patched and checksums match mod6 [19:22]
assbot Logged on 14-02-2016 21:42:16; mod6: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000211.html [19:22]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell kakobrekla 'silent wings' fan are very very spiffy. and now the loudest thing in the room, giant doubleconverter ups, is deafening in comparison. gonna have to re-fan it now... [19:33]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:33]
kakobrekla they are arent they. [19:34]
asciilifeform there's gotta be a catch though. do they died after 6 mo. ? or what. [19:34]
asciilifeform *die [19:34]
kakobrekla nope. [19:34]
kakobrekla i have been running mine for 2 years are are as good as new as far as i can tell [19:35]
kakobrekla and are* [19:35]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: i finally broke down and did the whole new-case, filters, etc. thing. [19:36]
asciilifeform sorbothane legs. [19:36]
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kakobrekla i also had the problem of ups being the loudest, but it fanless, i think its the transformer that is noisy [19:37]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: this one can't be run fanless, it is the kind that has the inverter going at ~all times~ [19:37]
asciilifeform whatever the fuck in; clean sinusoid out. [19:38]
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kakobrekla its not impossible to make inverter go fanless [19:38]
asciilifeform possible but not at 1.5kW in 2u box. [19:39]
kakobrekla anyway, you can only take it so far. at some point you will hear birds from outside and so on. [19:39]
kakobrekla cant turn them off. [19:39]
punkman why not [19:39]
punkman just need bb gun [19:39]
asciilifeform i like animal sounds [19:39]
asciilifeform people - not so much. fans - also not so much. [19:40]
kakobrekla hope you got a quiet psu as well [19:40]
asciilifeform fanless. [19:41]
kakobrekla :) [19:41]
asciilifeform i can sorta hear the inductors tho [19:41]
asciilifeform and i still have a few mechanical drives, that have not yet been replaced with flash [19:41]
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asciilifeform but even so, mega-kudos to kakobrekla for the discovery. [19:42]
kakobrekla im glad someone else found my effort useful. [19:43]
asciilifeform !rated kakobrekla [19:43]
assbot You rated user kakobrekla on 12-Apr-2014, with a rating of 4, and supplied these additional notes: expert infrastructural welder. holds up the sky.. [19:43]
asciilifeform !rate kakobrekla 5 not only expert infrastructural welder, but unearthed a 15dB pc fan somehow. [19:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47097 @ 0.00056516 = 26.6173 BTC [-] {3} [19:45]
asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.kakobrekla.5:d3f2ca11ae8994f35adf6193e7fc455df676304fb0df2e69aef82f87fcf4ac51 [19:45]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for kakobrekla from 4 to 5 with note: not only expert infrastructural welder, but unearthed a 15dB pc fan somehow. [19:45]
asciilifeform !rated mod6 [19:46]
assbot You rated user mod6 on 24-Apr-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: therealbitcoin.org. met in the flesh. jolly good fella.. [19:46]
asciilifeform !rate mod6 5 met alive; expert gardener of therealbitcoin.org; implementer of the first fully-functional battlefield-grade vtron. [19:48]
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asciilifeform !rated phf [19:49]
assbot You rated user phf on 01-Aug-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: ru lisper; sometimes tests my code, even. [19:49]
asciilifeform !rate 3 phf ru lisper; http://btcbase.org/patches [19:50]
assbot 3 is not registered in WoT. [19:50]
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asciilifeform !rate phf 3 ru lisper; http://btcbase.org/patches [19:50]
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assbot trb ... ( http://bit.ly/1SP5343 ) [19:50]
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asciilifeform !unrate zfx [19:51]
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asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.unrate.zfx:84d4c3c4a11794d315af8dad9917a440f07e317ef95471e2bd186b58133e988c [19:52]
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asciilifeform !unrate binaryatrocity [19:52]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f8d39f9791ca12ca [19:52]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla> i have been running mine for 2 years are are as good as new as far as i can tell << good bearings, less wear, last longer. [19:52]
asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.unrate.binaryatrocity:cca6afbd0049d1b89a8a4d530197592913a11f642ed93492ad55ed0631fde6d2 [19:53]
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asciilifeform !unrate rebeccabitcoin [19:53]
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asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.unrate.rebeccabitcoin:276362c9ec8c098210179b76f98cee871c02820c1f567498f81738aca4c4fd8d [19:53]
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asciilifeform !rated kanzure [19:54]
assbot You rated user kanzure on 22-Jun-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: meat programmer. [19:54]
asciilifeform !rate kanzure -1 minor-league quisling; inquire within [19:55]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/f13b1f138055f7ce [19:55]
asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.kanzure.-1:07c6735219a02aee0857eb3bb1e8cb965dc3a795963df5d5a292d7fe4e168003 [19:55]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for kanzure from 1 to -1 with note: minor-league quisling; inquire within [19:55]
asciilifeform !rated jurov [19:55]
assbot You rated user jurov on 22-Apr-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: live human!!. [19:55]
shinohai This is why I like asciilifeform he can use "quisling" in a sentence. [19:56]
asciilifeform !rate jurov 4 therealbitcoin.org treasurer; long-suffering maintainer of ml 'turdatron'; and miscellaneously strong intellect [19:56]
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asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.jurov.4:c5dd088ae79af018d445e669fc8e8b0e584ef1c8b7dc458fdbb9adfc93d51d0e [19:57]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for jurov from 1 to 4 with note: therealbitcoin.org treasurer; long-suffering maintainer of ml 'turdatron'; and miscellaneously strong intellect [19:57]
asciilifeform almost done.... [19:57]
asciilifeform !rated BingoBoingo [19:58]
assbot You rated user BingoBoingo on 25-Jan-2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: retrocomputing archaeology enthusiast, intelligent commentary.. [19:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67244 @ 0.00056448 = 37.9579 BTC [-] [19:59]
asciilifeform !rate BingoBoingo 3 preaches tirelessly to the heathens - qntra.net ; retrocomputing archaeologist and the proverbial alert reader. [19:59]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/b6249b9a2ac441f9 [19:59]
asciilifeform !v assbot:asciilifeform.rate.BingoBoingo.3:e96cd04596f1c29a6c5713345d09780e3556a0334d1a5acd6a75d0c59af68312 [20:00]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for BingoBoingo from 2 to 3 with note: preaches tirelessly to the heathens - qntra.net ; retrocomputing archaeologist and the proverbial alert reader. [20:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10275 @ 0.00056431 = 5.7983 BTC [-] [20:00]
asciilifeform i think that's all for now. [20:01]
mircea_popescu cool huh. [20:01]
asciilifeform sorry about the noise, but tradition dictates that this oughta be done 'in forum.' [20:01]
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asciilifeform sooo in other newz i put down 5btc on a bitbet and whaddayaknow, 'high S value' [20:08]
asciilifeform (generated, naturally, from ancient box) [20:08]
asciilifeform idiocy. [20:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61700 @ 0.00055933 = 34.5107 BTC [-] {4} [20:09]
asciilifeform does anyone have a link handy to where in the logz mircea_popescu calculated what it would cost to run a guaranteed-block-in-x-days mine ? [20:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67450 @ 0.0005518 = 37.2189 BTC [-] {4} [20:17]
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kakobrekla i dont but according to ze enemy; Current cost per TH: 0.0039 BTC per day [20:20]
asciilifeform which enemy [20:20]
kakobrekla http://nodecounter.com/mining_donation_fund.php [20:21]
assbot NodeCounter.com (XTnodes.com) - Bitcoin Classic, XT, Unlimited Nodes, Blocks, Graphs, Charts, Statistics ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pu56hn ) [20:21]
asciilifeform l0l! [20:21]
asciilifeform what's a ~honest~ mine cost ? [20:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a very simple calculation really : 1 block out of 24 * 60 / 10 = 1/144 of total hash [20:21]
mircea_popescu !s 25.25 [20:22]
assbot 5 results for '25.25' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=25.25 [20:22]
asciilifeform hm [20:23]
mircea_popescu lol @ scam foundation's bfl-pushing rag whining "bitcoin dictators" [20:28]
mircea_popescu the plural invalidates the point, derps. what fucking dictatorS ? how's that shit supposed to work ? [20:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61550 @ 0.00055147 = 33.943 BTC [-] {3} [20:30]
kakobrekla roughly 1 petahash will get you 1 block per 1000 blocks [20:32]
kakobrekla you need more like 1 per 100 (144 per day) [20:33]
mircea_popescu ;;nethash [20:34]
gribble 1214630509.42 [20:34]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1214630509.42/144 [20:34]
gribble 8434934.09319 [20:34]
mircea_popescu 8,4 PH [20:34]
kakobrekla 30 bt per day according to node counter donations [20:35]
mircea_popescu but you get the 25+change back. [20:36]
kakobrekla yeah. [20:36]
shinohai I should throw up a donation page like that saying I'll mine classic blocks - 35 BTC!!! [20:36]
asciilifeform i have my wrath bit set, re: the high-S thing [20:38]
asciilifeform send perfectly valid tx, now i have to figure out a way to double-spend own tx, failed to make a bet in time, and may very well end up in limbo [20:39]
mircea_popescu there's really better things to chew the scenery about. [20:39]
kakobrekla what limbo? [20:40]
asciilifeform 1) it was a good chunk of my net worth 2) it was a surrender to shitgnomery which i still don't properly understand [20:40]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla he'll have to reconstruct the wallet [20:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00055285 = 22.114 BTC [+] [20:41]
mircea_popescu speaking of which asciilifeform ... good time to make a wallet fixer now :) [20:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i've already unsheathed the knives [20:41]
kakobrekla he is speaking like he will lose the btc [20:41]
asciilifeform but i'd be curious to see what mircea_popescu has in mind [20:41]
mircea_popescu well he can't spend it again till he convinces his wallet that tx should go away [20:42]
asciilifeform i would malleate own tx to low-s atm but i don't have a handy proggy written for this [20:44]
asciilifeform (anybody else?) [20:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i contemplated 'fixing wallet' ages ago, but doing so was complicated by the fact that i REALLY, ~REALLY~ do not like spending coin. [20:45]
asciilifeform so how to test?. [20:45]
mircea_popescu sending coins to yourself is called mixing not spending. [20:46]
asciilifeform it is only 'to yourself' if your test is successful ! [20:46]
trinque asciilifeform: pick up some deedbot- dust [20:46]
asciilifeform plus there is fee [20:46]
mircea_popescu money is for practical people asciilifeform [20:47]
mircea_popescu not for idealists. [20:47]
asciilifeform not only this, [20:47]
asciilifeform but money is for people... with money. [20:47]
mircea_popescu looking at the block spam atm, "money" is ~5000 satoshi [20:47]
asciilifeform how's that [20:48]
mircea_popescu tx fee for the spam blocks. [20:49]
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punkman this weather http://i.imgur.com/FZRafjn.png [21:12]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/20UIOhc ) [21:12]
punkman a wallet spec might be nice to have [21:15]
asciilifeform the whole 'wallet' concept is braindamaged and must die. [21:15]
asciilifeform specify x1 from addr a1, x2 from a2, ... x_n(a_n) [21:15]
asciilifeform enough with the 'intelligence'. [21:16]
asciilifeform and enough with the machine 'knowing' that you 'spent.' [21:16]
mats punkman: mine http://imgur.com/WcmNYnu [21:16]
assbot Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet ... ( http://bit.ly/20UJgMw ) [21:16]
punkman took me a sec to realize that was in F [21:17]
punkman asciilifeform: what do you mean 'knowing' that you 'spent.' [21:18]
asciilifeform punkman: see thread from 1/2hr ago [21:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58221 @ 0.00055309 = 32.2015 BTC [+] {2} [21:23]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=10-02-2016#1402007 < watched. not bad. i return the ball with another war flick; 'lepa sela, lepo gore' http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116860/ [21:29]
assbot Logged on 10-02-2016 13:43:13; *: adlai offers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon_(2009_film) for any movie bloggers who are curious about how much tanks are loved [21:29]
assbot Joli village, jolie flamme (1996) - IMDb ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qgc6vI ) [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58700 @ 0.00055342 = 32.4858 BTC [+] [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16629 @ 0.00055342 = 9.2028 BTC [+] [21:31]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell BingoBoingo some lulz, http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/Mensch_Computer.cfm [21:40]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:40]
assbot The Mensch Computer ... ( http://bit.ly/20ULDz2 ) [21:40]
asciilifeform 'The Mensch Computer is a solid state computer that was never designed to compete in the PC market. It's not a PDA, calculator, home controller or personal organizer, but it could be any of these things. It was designed to provide simplicity without complexity allowing users to evolve it into their own creation. Many people put a lot of thought and many years into the design to provide a head start for many projects. There are [21:41]
asciilifeform several assembly language library routines built into firmware and a ROM monitor allowing the ease of programming any of the included devices including graphics, sound, game controllers, communication to a PC, Printer or Modem or other solid state devices. The ROM monitor provides an easy interface menu for checking registers and modifying data in memory. All software listings, schematics and documentation are included.' [21:41]
* asciilifeform does not own this box, cannot recommend or disrecommend !! [21:41]
asciilifeform but sounds vaguely and pleasantly temple-os-y. [21:41]
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asciilifeform appears to use a variant of the 6502 processor that is still made by western design inc. [21:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87286 @ 0.0005585 = 48.7492 BTC [+] {2} [21:44]
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asciilifeform interestingly, the chip design is licensable... http://www.westerndesigncenter.com/wdc/w65c02s-core.cfm - presumably for serious dough [21:44]
assbot W65C02S 8-bit Core ... ( http://bit.ly/20ULVWx ) [21:44]
asciilifeform now, mad kudos to anyone who can locate a 'mensch computer' available for purchase... [21:45]
mircea_popescu !up Computer8 [21:45]
-assbot- You voiced Computer8 for 30 minutes. [21:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93100 @ 0.00056327 = 52.4404 BTC [+] {3} [21:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33000 @ 0.00055849 = 18.4302 BTC [-] [22:20]
ben_vulpes https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/commit/e2edf81271e1a7dd148aa7386b730ae2838c2860#diff-b2301b53c4e2272d63fb6047c851c925L82 [22:24]
assbot Add some useful key bindings · ch11ng/exwm@e2edf81 · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1U24Byg ) [22:24]
ben_vulpes this is why tab aligned shit in code is the devil [22:24]
mircea_popescu eh ? [22:37]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/b4ae78d04011ef41870a94e938edd05b/tumblr_nltsroIJdF1s9sr6mo1_1280.jpg << the ACTUAL devil. [22:38]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U25OWi ) [22:38]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo "thousands of years of cultural tradition assualting the beloved practice of open defecation in rural India" [22:46]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: what am i looking at [22:53]
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trinque asciilifeform: exwm is... an x11 window manager written in elisp [22:56]
trinque I use the thing, love it actually [22:56]
asciilifeform ick [22:56]
asciilifeform why elisp [22:56]
trinque so that all windows are emacs buffers [22:57]
trinque rather, emacs windows [22:57]
trinque amounts to being able to get around rather quickly with a uniform set of keybindings and a simple mental model [22:58]
trinque rather than having window management both at the x11 level and again in emacs [22:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55700 @ 0.00055849 = 31.1079 BTC [-] [22:59]
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BingoBoingo what's a ~honest~ mine cost ? << during the Altcoin srs bsns days rented hash with varying relability from https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256 [23:25]
assbot Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQ97Oj ) [23:25]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: very spiffy looking machine [23:28]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: quite unobtainable, it seems. [23:28]
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k8 kakobrekla kanzure Keefe kefkius knotwork_ Kushed [23:29]
mircea_popescu !up k8 [23:29]
-assbot- You voiced k8 for 30 minutes. [23:29]
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BingoBoingo BingoBoingo "thousands of years of cultural tradition assualting the beloved practice of open defecation in rural India" << should be fixed now [23:29]
mircea_popescu cool [23:29]
BingoBoingo Bugged shinohai to write to for the occasion to dust off the preecture [23:30]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Shame. That 6502 box looks like it would make a spiffy musical instrument since it has the game port for midi [23:37]
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mircea_popescu in other news, bride's maids. http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4u88luixN1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [23:49]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQbAbt ) [23:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39550 @ 0.00056434 = 22.3196 BTC [+] {2} [23:54]
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