Forum logs for 14 Feb 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Diablo-D3 clearly he is wrong [00:00]
mjr_ importData(http://live.coinbr.com/last?mpsic=S.MPOE)["last"][3] [00:00]
mjr_ that should work i think, but it doesn't [00:00]
mjr_ i keep getting parse error [00:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.006 = 0.06 BTC [-] [00:02]
Lyspooner hi truffles [00:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 10 @ 0.00067 = 0.0067 BTC [-] [00:09]
mircea_popescu "I already get enough shit because the general public think the legal adult industry and the illegal adult industry are all the same. I'm not asking for a second helping." [00:09]
mircea_popescu wait, what ?! [00:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 14.1 BTC [+] [00:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.7499998 = 5.25 BTC [+] [00:11]
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awkorama evening gentlemen [00:14]
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iz there's another joke like that w/ a punchline of the wallet turning into a suitcase if you rubbed it a little [00:15]
iz like the dude saved foreskins and made leather goods out of them [00:16]
mircea_popescu "If MP has any dirty laundry such as child sex charges or other things it will be found by SA. Then MP can be right up there with such luminaries as Bruce Wagner." [00:18]
mircea_popescu srsly, the forum :D [00:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.7499998 = 3 BTC [+] [00:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00598093 = 5.9809 BTC [-] [00:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 50 @ 0.00598092 = 0.299 BTC [-] [00:26]
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awkorama I was rubbing my wallet.dat a little and it didn't change to any suitcase. [00:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2600 @ 0.0006442 = 1.6749 BTC [-] [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064135 = 2.7713 BTC [-] [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064126 = 2.7709 BTC [-] [00:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7808 @ 0.00064111 = 5.0058 BTC [-] [00:35]
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mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/ [00:48]
mircea_popescu new header :D [00:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3445 @ 0.00064111 = 2.2086 BTC [-] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063943 = 2.763 BTC [-] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3084 @ 0.00063942 = 1.972 BTC [-] [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3084 @ 0.00063942 = 1.972 BTC [-] [00:55]
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Bugpowder 3 hours of waiting in the Burning Man ticket queue. [00:59]
Bugpowder sux [00:59]
wao lal [00:59]
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mircea_popescu i've never waited in a queue. [01:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5 @ 0.00609587 = 0.0305 BTC [+] [01:02]
mircea_popescu why the fuck would you ?! [01:02]
jurov hm, looking to the site, do you ask "I understand that I will be required to pay 30 BTC" to be written in chinese/farsi FAQ, too? [01:02]
kakobrekla > The only Bitcoin service that has never been hacked. [01:02]
kakobrekla lies. [01:02]
pigeons ;;google youtube les claypool burning man [01:02]
gribble Hey Are Ya Goin to Burning Man - Claypool / Electric ... - YouTube: ; Electric Apricot - Burning Man - YouTube: ; Hey are you going to Burning Man - Live at Festeroo - YouTube: [01:02]
Bugpowder online queue [01:02]
mircea_popescu jurov no, foreigners get off easy [01:02]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder o thought you were checking on mobile [01:02]
mircea_popescu foursquare style [01:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 45 @ 0.00609587 = 0.2743 BTC [+] [01:03]
Bugpowder nope [01:03]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ya well! lies & drama back bitcoin [01:03]
Bugpowder I refreshed the initial page to slow and got in line 1 minute after it opened [01:03]
mircea_popescu lol [01:03]
Bugpowder now a 3 hour wait [01:03]
Bugpowder my friend got his in 10 minutes. [01:03]
Bugpowder fuc [01:03]
jurov lol it's like... in motorests in austria, there are slovak warnings "to use toilet you have to pay". slovak only. [01:03]
mircea_popescu hahaha [01:04]
mircea_popescu slovakistan!!! [01:04]
mircea_popescu jurov but honestly : it is in the farsi faq [01:05]
mircea_popescu and the chinese one has a guy doing it anyway [01:05]
mircea_popescu also http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?173251-Have-you-heard-of-this-new-currency-and-way-of-getting-paid-called-Bitcoins this is kinda funny. [01:05]
kakobrekla Banned [01:06]
mircea_popescu what ?! [01:07]
kakobrekla the author was banned [01:07]
kakobrekla from the forums [01:07]
mircea_popescu o yeah [01:08]
mircea_popescu some bitcoin tard "educating" a buncha strippers about bitcoin [01:09]
mircea_popescu it ended up something like, random bitcointalk dood walks into a forum populated by 5000 mpoeprs [01:09]
jurov 5000 mpoeprs *wipes monitor* [01:09]
mircea_popescu damn straight [01:10]
mircea_popescu but seriously now : somebody should make a bitcoin based webcam programme. [01:10]
mircea_popescu that industry is currently fucked in the ass by HIRE [01:11]
mircea_popescu on top of all the other nonsense. [01:11]
kakobrekla HIRE? [01:14]
mircea_popescu yes. [01:14]
kakobrekla whats that [01:14]
mircea_popescu the mericans came up with this really retarded idea whereby anyone sending money into the us has to also apply the us laws to their customers [01:14]
mircea_popescu which is why most non-us banks aren't actually dealing with transfers towards the us anymore [01:15]
mircea_popescu and to top it all off next year ALL transfers will have to be charged 30% tax [01:15]
mircea_popescu regardless if they're taxable or not. [01:15]
Bugpowder wat? [01:16]
Bugpowder 30% wat? [01:16]
mircea_popescu 30% fuck you fee. [01:16]
Bugpowder link? [01:16]
mircea_popescu srsly. if you're an american and have a foreign bank account [01:16]
mircea_popescu you will be charged on all transfers. [01:16]
kakobrekla what does this have to to with free trade talkings that i posted about today [01:16]
mircea_popescu http://www.bracewellgiuliani.com/news-publications/updates/hire-act-2010-increases-need-international-tax-compliance [01:17]
mircea_popescu this is pretty old shit ? [01:17]
pigeons many countries and banks don't allow american customers [01:17]
kakobrekla 13 February 2013: EU and US free-trade talks launched [01:18]
Bugpowder this is only if they don't report who the account owner is [01:18]
kakobrekla any realation to that' [01:18]
Bugpowder there is no withholding if they do report it seems [01:18]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla not much really. [01:18]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder guess who is going to report ? [01:18]
Bugpowder just applying pressure to Switz [01:18]
mircea_popescu nah, by now the incentives just aren't there. [01:18]
mircea_popescu much cheaper to cut the us loose. [01:18]
Bugpowder BITCOIN RALLY ON IRC CHAT DISCUSSION [01:19]
mircea_popescu totally. [01:19]
mircea_popescu tbh i was pretty certain the cause of the rally is this [01:19]
mircea_popescu some provisions start in march [01:19]
mircea_popescu people were trying to wait past the halving but not much past march, so... squeeze. [01:19]
Bugpowder if you can afford the fee, they don't charge you [01:20]
Bugpowder seriously [01:20]
mircea_popescu heh. [01:20]
Bugpowder Platinum... [01:20]
Bugpowder Admiral shares [01:20]
mircea_popescu who the fuck is paying 30% ? [01:20]
Bugpowder Vanguard Flagship account [01:20]
Bugpowder nobody is paying 30% [01:21]
mircea_popescu right. [01:21]
Bugpowder thye will report [01:21]
mircea_popescu no they won't. [01:21]
mircea_popescu they'll jsut shrug and carry on. [01:21]
Bugpowder or people will have money for offshore [01:21]
Bugpowder and money for onshore [01:21]
mircea_popescu pretty much [01:21]
Bugpowder and never the twain shall meet [01:21]
Bugpowder except via btc [01:21]
mircea_popescu in the unlikely event there's someone wioth any wealth left physically in the us [01:21]
Bugpowder jesus bitcoin is amazing [01:21]
mircea_popescu which seems rather improbable atm [01:21]
Bugpowder lol [01:21]
Bugpowder you are so fucking negative [01:22]
Bugpowder nah [01:22]
Bugpowder not as rich [01:22]
Bugpowder but yes [01:22]
Bugpowder other professions with money [01:22]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [01:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00000, Best ask: 25.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 25.00000, 24 hour volume: 82323.14434998, 24 hour low: 24.47998, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.57240 [01:22]
Bugpowder This is getting serious [01:23]
Bugpowder anybody want to buy some calls? [01:23]
mircea_popescu things are getting serious... [01:23]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IRGenlpf-E [01:23]
pigeons and you haven't stopped talking since [01:24]
Bugpowder that was last week [01:24]
mircea_popescu what ?! [01:25]
mircea_popescu hm, is my ignore filtering half the chat again ? [01:25]
Bugpowder truffles [01:25]
kakobrekla told ya. [01:26]
mircea_popescu it's funny how that works, i add names, the killed lines counter jumps to hundreds a day, then a few weeks later it's back to 0 [01:26]
mircea_popescu then... [01:26]
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kakobrekla you have a killed lines counter? :D [01:27]
kakobrekla damn. [01:27]
mircea_popescu i have ignore stats ! im from like... the future. [01:27]
kakobrekla does it say on the end of report "you are very ignorant" :D [01:28]
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jurov once btcusd goes to 133 coinbr acct will cost 12 bucks/month too, then :P [01:31]
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Bugpowder I dunno about this dump [01:32]
Bugpowder seems reall [01:32]
Bugpowder feels toppy [01:32]
Bugpowder its persistent [01:32]
Bugpowder lots of overhead resistance [01:32]
kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/ [01:33]
kakobrekla money for grabs if so [01:33]
jurov fuck bitbet... i made few small bets slightly drunk [01:34]
jurov using coinbr wallet [01:34]
jurov now i realized i have to check every deposit whether it isn't something from bitbet [01:34]
kakobrekla loool [01:34]
kakobrekla just use a different output addy [01:34]
jurov oh yea [01:35]
jurov and add alcohol tester to coinbr admin interface [01:36]
kakobrekla you will trick yourself using different drugs. [01:36]
kakobrekla no good. [01:36]
kakobrekla there we go, dumping. [01:38]
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kakobrekla 24.6 [01:38]
kakobrekla 24.5 [01:38]
kakobrekla 24.4 [01:39]
pizzaman1337 good, I want the price to go down. Need to buy more coings. [01:39]
pizzaman1337 coins* [01:39]
pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [01:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.49753, Best ask: 24.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00247, Last trade: 24.50000, 24 hour volume: 86614.45783048, 24 hour low: 24.48752, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.53151 [01:39]
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kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [01:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 948 @ 0.06641709 = 62.9634 BTC [01:45]
mircea_popescu lmao jurov [01:45]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:46]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.50000, Best ask: 24.63661, Bid-ask spread: 0.13661, Last trade: 24.63661, 24 hour volume: 87831.55624440, 24 hour low: 24.48752, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.51202 [01:46]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,convert eur [01:46]
gribble 1 BTC = 24.63661 U.S. dollars = 18.2859126 Euros [01:46]
mircea_popescu well... i sold my 200 at 17 so a way to go. [01:46]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 52 @ 0.06641709 = 3.4537 BTC [01:46]
kakobrekla http://jezus.si:81/render?target=bitcoin.*.transactions&height=500&width=1100&lineMode=connected [01:46]
kakobrekla bitstamp stuck at 25 again [01:46]
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mircea_popescu that poor guy with the short puts [01:47]
mircea_popescu he's getting massacred again [01:47]
Namworld What? [01:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 745 @ 0.21602472 = 160.9384 BTC [-] [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C190T] 745 @ 0.25537348 = 190.2532 BTC [+] [01:53]
mircea_popescu Namworld bitcoin is dropping [01:53]
* kakobrekla has changed the topic to: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://mpex.co || https://coinbr.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || https://btct.co || https://bitfunder.com || https://icbit.se || https://cryptostocks.com || https://therocktrading.com || http://picostocks.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || biased msg: http://bit4x.com [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C180T] 744 @ 0.29472225 = 219.2734 BTC [+] [01:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C170T] 735 @ 0.33407101 = 245.5422 BTC [-] [01:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C160T] 4 @ 0.37341978 = 1.4937 BTC [+] [01:54]
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Namworld Someone is cashing in his calls or something. [01:56]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.10775591 = 107.7559 BTC [01:56]
Namworld It just dropped a bit. [01:57]
kakobrekla a tad. [01:57]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.08563291 = 85.6329 BTC [01:57]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06697417 = 66.9742 BTC [+] [01:57]
pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [01:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.29000, Best ask: 24.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 24.30000, 24 hour volume: 89583.97608075, 24 hour low: 24.23140, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.48663 [01:58]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.13408587 = 134.0859 BTC [-] [01:58]
pizzaman1337 cashing in on puts? [01:59]
Bugpowder nope [01:59]
Bugpowder buying [01:59]
pizzaman1337 good luck [01:59]
Bugpowder GOT 2 BURNING MAN TIX [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063952 = 2.7634 BTC [+] [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11916 @ 0.00063942 = 7.6193 BTC [-] [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4366 @ 0.00063878 = 2.7889 BTC [-] [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 100 @ 0.06707301 = 6.7073 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 900 @ 0.06707301 = 60.3657 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.08576716 = 85.7672 BTC [+] [02:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.10793223 = 107.9322 BTC [+] [02:02]
Bugpowder battle for the puts [02:03]
kakobrekla a dollar difference still stamp vs gox [02:03]
mircea_popescu teh whoa [02:03]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.48629718 = 486.2972 BTC [+] [02:04]
Bugpowder LOL [02:04]
Bugpowder FUCKING LOSER [02:04]
Bugpowder close that short [02:05]
mircea_popescu seems you've totally spooked everyone Bugpowder [02:05]
mircea_popescu he;'s only down 20% on this round. [02:05]
Bugpowder DIVE DIVE DIVE [02:06]
kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [02:07]
kakobrekla is not bad [02:07]
pigeons "official" [02:08]
pigeons what the hell are you talking about [02:08]
BitHub lol s.dice? [02:09]
pigeons but yeah market price is the price you can get them at, but no you can't get bitcoins from s.dice except dividend day or winning bets [02:09]
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kakobrekla yeah theres an official place that sells 25$ btcs [02:10]
pigeons https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins [02:10]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla luke ? [02:10]
kakobrekla aha [02:10]
kakobrekla ;) [02:10]
kakobrekla 23.8 btw [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06763205 = 67.6321 BTC [+] [02:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.0864789 = 86.4789 BTC [+] [02:11]
Bugpowder that fucker got the 230s again [02:11]
pigeons what the hell are you talking about [02:11]
Bugpowder Ok I have enough puts [02:12]
kakobrekla im guessing this weeked could be a good time to stock up if needed [02:12]
kakobrekla weekend [02:12]
pigeons im gonna ignpore ore you too truffles if you dont stat making sense [02:12]
Bugpowder This will either make the ponzi plot truly explode.... or make me cry [02:12]
Bugpowder are you an SEC bitcoin narc? [02:13]
pigeons i think he's just a retard [02:13]
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Namworld Hey, I want some puts too [02:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.48869324 = 488.6932 BTC [+] [02:14]
Bugpowder oh wow [02:14]
pigeons well now you have 50 places from that link [02:14]
Bugpowder ;;ticker [02:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.61000, Best ask: 23.87675, Bid-ask spread: 0.26675, Last trade: 23.61000, 24 hour volume: 94921.36763921, 24 hour low: 23.61000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.39773 [02:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.349 = 1.745 BTC [-] [02:14]
mircea_popescu aha. teh drop huh. [02:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 34 @ 0.3499 = 11.8966 BTC [+] [02:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [+] [02:14]
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Bugpowder dude that guy got fucked two times [02:14]
Bugpowder He is the top caller [02:14]
mircea_popescu lol srsly. [02:15]
mircea_popescu it's not going back up for now. [02:15]
Namworld Some guy overbought on calls/oversold puts? [02:15]
Namworld like last month? [02:15]
mircea_popescu some whale shorted like i dunno, 20, 30k worth of deep puts last exercise [02:15]
Bugpowder he bought 30,000 calls at the top last time [02:16]
mircea_popescu then covered for like -5k [02:16]
Bugpowder oh [02:16]
mircea_popescu then like... yesterday ? sold 5k [02:16]
Bugpowder yeah [02:16]
Bugpowder it was shorting puts [02:16]
mircea_popescu and now is covering them [02:16]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder someone was buying calls too [02:16]
mircea_popescu but i think it was someone else [02:16]
mircea_popescu it's ridiculous by now, within 24 hours he's screwed. [02:17]
Bugpowder should be good for S.MPOE [02:18]
mircea_popescu meanwhile back at the pussyranch, http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181800-Bitcoin-Giveaway [02:18]
kakobrekla 23.1 [02:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12784 @ 0.00063878 = 8.1662 BTC [-] [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3516 @ 0.00063701 = 2.2397 BTC [-] [02:21]
maximian mircea_popescu: PR should also mention that 1BTC is over $20 USD [02:21]
mircea_popescu why ? [02:21]
maximian cuz why would thy bother? they probably don't realize that bit coins are worth anything [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.06977665 = 69.7767 BTC [+] [02:22]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.06000, Best ask: 23.10500, Bid-ask spread: 0.04500, Last trade: 23.10500, 24 hour volume: 100067.34572136, 24 hour low: 23.06000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.28815 [02:22]
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pizzaman1337 awesome, keep dropping... [02:22]
kakobrekla where is your bid at pizza? :) [02:24]
pizzaman1337 I have no bid :( ACH is slow... [02:24]
Namworld so, another good month for S.MPOE in sight, mircea? [02:24]
Namworld with all the calls that were bought =P [02:24]
swhitt ;;ticker [02:25]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.03655, Best ask: 23.10000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06345, Last trade: 23.03655, 24 hour volume: 100563.10296792, 24 hour low: 23.03655, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.27701 [02:25]
kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [02:25]
kakobrekla lulz [02:25]
swhitt whoa [02:25]
swhitt that's a lopsided market [02:25]
pizzaman1337 this is cool to watch [02:26]
mircea_popescu Namworld prolly [02:27]
BitHub http://bitcoinity.org/markets [02:27]
mircea_popescu course you never know. [02:27]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.02002, Best ask: 23.10001, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 23.02002, 24 hour volume: 101056.49539453, 24 hour low: 23.02002, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.26533 [02:27]
Namworld yeah, we'll see about it. [02:27]
mircea_popescu things can change in half hour. [02:27]
kakobrekla ok for real truffles, start in #bitcoin-otc or smth [02:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00063701 = 2.4843 BTC [-] [02:28]
kakobrekla start meaning start. [02:29]
Namworld Yeah, but the growth was a bit unrealistic. [02:29]
Namworld there was no one selling, no ask depth. Price increasing very fast. [02:29]
pigeons right, because we're going to put you on ignore [02:31]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.04000, Best ask: 23.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.16000, Last trade: 23.20000, 24 hour volume: 106681.62083572, 24 hour low: 22.02100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.10876 [02:32]
mircea_popescu stopped for now huh [02:32]
kakobrekla lunch break. [02:32]
kakobrekla what? [02:34]
Namworld No, it's near 22 USD/BTC now [02:35]
Namworld MtGox is lagging bad [02:35]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html [02:35]
Namworld lol, that chart is FUNNY [02:35]
pizzaman1337 ;;goxlag [02:35]
gribble 249.494233 seconds [02:35]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [02:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.02100, Best ask: 23.05000, Bid-ask spread: 1.02900, Last trade: 23.05000, 24 hour volume: 107968.90102643, 24 hour low: 22.02100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.07438 [02:39]
swhitt whoa [02:39]
pizzaman1337 $1 spread?... [02:39]
kakobrekla :> [02:39]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [02:41]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.55933, Best ask: 22.80000, Bid-ask spread: 0.24067, Last trade: 23.05000, 24 hour volume: 109588.67124306, 24 hour low: 22.01000, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 25.03072 [02:41]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [02:41]
gribble 1 BTC = 23.05000 U.S. dollars = 17.1082907 Euros [02:41]
pizzaman1337 last is 25 cents higher than best ask though [02:42]
kakobrekla ya no problem with that [02:43]
kakobrekla soh, will it break 20 [02:44]
pizzaman1337 ;;goxlag [02:44]
gribble 312.221853 seconds [02:44]
pizzaman1337 5 min lag...? [02:44]
kakobrekla they suck yea [02:44]
kakobrekla we might be at 50$ for all we know by now [02:44]
pizzaman1337 it could be in their interest for more lag though - more panic, more selling, more transaction fees, more profit.. [02:45]
kakobrekla i could be just php. [02:45]
kakobrekla :) [02:45]
Namworld We could be at 1 or at 50, yeah [02:47]
Namworld too much lag [02:47]
kakobrekla i hope its 1. [02:47]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.52201, Best ask: 22.79700, Bid-ask spread: 0.27499, Last trade: 22.79700, 24 hour volume: 111499.86991286, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.97243 [02:49]
mircea_popescu teh wow. [02:49]
mircea_popescu so thisis the great unwind. [02:49]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [02:53]
gribble 496.211258 seconds [02:53]
kakobrekla lol [02:53]
kakobrekla getting even wrose [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 265 @ 0.07546687 = 19.9987 BTC [+] [02:53]
kakobrekla i tell you [02:53]
kakobrekla their bad code is fuckin bitcoin stability [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1224 @ 0.00063701 = 0.7797 BTC [-] [02:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34276 @ 0.00063696 = 21.8324 BTC [-] [02:54]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [02:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.50000, Best ask: 22.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 22.65000, 24 hour volume: 114786.56433186, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.89309 [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.51921463 = 519.2146 BTC [+] [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064464 = 2.7855 BTC [+] [02:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10829 @ 0.00064499 = 6.9846 BTC [+] [02:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 2594 @ 0.00067 = 1.738 BTC [-] [02:57]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [03:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.78000, Best ask: 22.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 22.78000, 24 hour volume: 115402.35989204, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.87805 [03:01]
kakobrekla what is this dog? [03:01]
pizzaman1337 seems like it stopped falling [03:03]
kakobrekla or gox capped out [03:03]
kakobrekla we dont know really. [03:03]
kakobrekla :> [03:03]
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pizzaman1337 the asks are soo thin.. [03:03]
kakobrekla yea [03:03]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [03:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.04288, Best ask: 23.08065, Bid-ask spread: 0.03777, Last trade: 23.08065, 24 hour volume: 117425.35972100, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.84136 [03:06]
kakobrekla ;;goxlag [03:07]
gribble 45.297523 seconds [03:07]
pizzaman1337 seems like now might not be a bad time to buy [03:07]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [03:08]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.33000, Best ask: 23.49800, Bid-ask spread: 0.16800, Last trade: 23.49800, 24 hour volume: 117968.26192446, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.83143 [03:08]
Namworld http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ [03:09]
Namworld Some slight bounce going on. [03:09]
Namworld We reached like 21.7 [03:09]
mircea_popescu crazy times [03:11]
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DeadWeasel i'm sorry, did someone just take a 35k dump? [03:11]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [03:16]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34000, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 121630.16790847, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80265 [03:16]
pizzaman1337 well, that was fast [03:17]
maximian impressive recovery [03:17]
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broomkorn dump&pump [03:19]
DeadWeasel no kiddin [03:19]
DeadWeasel that was what, 35k btc? [03:20]
Namworld Recovery? I call it a bounce [03:20]
Namworld no market depth [03:20]
Bowjob whats the difference [03:20]
Bowjob ;;ticker [03:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.91954, Best ask: 24.94948, Bid-ask spread: 0.02994, Last trade: 24.91954, 24 hour volume: 122926.85310540, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80555 [03:20]
broomkorn jan 24th was different [03:20]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html [03:21]
Namworld There's a LOT of asks now [03:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063706 = 2.7527 BTC [-] [03:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5179 @ 0.00063696 = 3.2988 BTC [-] [03:21]
Namworld and no market depth. Will crash right back. Price is unstable and should now correct, hopefully. [03:21]
Namworld I'd prefer stable BTC prices [03:21]
broomkorn pretty sure the liquidity will prevent that [03:23]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [03:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.40000, Best ask: 24.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 123213.42485046, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80525 [03:26]
mircea_popescu no actually, this is it. [03:27]
mircea_popescu price is now 24.5ish. the end. [03:27]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P350T] 1000 @ 0.53072917 = 530.7292 BTC [+] [03:28]
DeadWeasel wtf, coinbase lowered their sell limit from 1K to 300 [03:28]
DeadWeasel w/out a notification. [03:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 70 @ 0.00609588 = 0.4267 BTC [+] [03:29]
Namworld Price went to 25.5 like 10 minutes ago and now back down [03:29]
Namworld It ain't down yet [03:30]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html [03:30]
Namworld Not until that huge gap disappear ^ [03:30]
kakobrekla ;;tslb [03:31]
Bowjob looks like we can hit 21 dollars any minute [03:31]
gribble Time since last block: 18 minutes and 13 seconds [03:31]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [03:31]
gribble Current Blocks: 221055 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 704 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 1 hour, 39 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3478478.41739 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.19802 [03:31]
Namworld Now prices are unstable and all it would take is some larger holding seeing this, panicking and selling 20k at market price to send it all crashing for good. [03:32]
Bowjob 2 dollar coins please [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064238 = 2.7757 BTC [+] [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10745 @ 0.00064256 = 6.9043 BTC [+] [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00064499 = 1.1745 BTC [+] [03:32]
Namworld nah... that won't happen again... [03:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2889 @ 0.00064701 = 1.8692 BTC [+] [03:32]
Bowjob fine. 2.1 coins please [03:32]
Namworld But I value BTC maybe 16-18 USD right now. [03:32]
Bowjob if we hit 2 dollars again im getting an mpex [03:34]
Bowjob lol [03:34]
aiball Namworld are you selling at $17? [03:34]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [03:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.39917, Best ask: 24.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00083, Last trade: 24.40000, 24 hour volume: 126560.10139199, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80221 [03:39]
mircea_popescu Namworld nah. it's done. [03:39]
mircea_popescu lol Bowjob [03:40]
kakobrekla i sold at 25 bought back at 24 sold back some at 25 [03:40]
mircea_popescu youll be rich [03:40]
mircea_popescu ;;bc,convert eur [03:40]
kakobrekla good game but not worth it [03:40]
gribble 1 BTC = 24.30001 U.S. dollars = 18.0360796 Euros [03:40]
mircea_popescu hey, if it drops another euro i can buy my 200 back [03:40]
kakobrekla better to not look at btc value and just make new coins on fx [03:41]
Namworld No, unless it drops under 17 USD/BTC [03:42]
Namworld We're headed back downward [03:42]
Namworld ;;ticker [03:42]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.04750, Best ask: 24.40102, Bid-ask spread: 0.35352, Last trade: 24.04750, 24 hour volume: 126934.28273813, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80032 [03:42]
aiball is this all about asics coming online today? [03:46]
Diablo-D3 probably [03:46]
Namworld They're coming only today? Who's? [03:47]
kakobrekla pirates. [03:47]
aiball so we've got the good old days until at least the next difficulty reset. [03:47]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: er, asicminer most likely has almost all of theirs online [03:48]
Diablo-D3 no one can get ahold of friedcat, which is evidence in of itself that hes very busy plugging shit in [03:48]
BitHub :) [03:49]
BitHub +1 asicminer [03:49]
aiball and selling his new btcs [03:49]
mircea_popescu http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181800-Bitcoin-Giveaway&p=2454907#post2454907 [03:49]
mircea_popescu meanwhile the girl is totally rocking the stripper thread [03:49]
kakobrekla ;;tslb [03:49]
gribble Time since last block: 36 minutes and 6 seconds [03:49]
kakobrekla so much for asic. [03:49]
mircea_popescu ya totally asics [03:49]
mircea_popescu lol [03:49]
aiball MP are you being sarcastic? I don't know enough to be able to tell... [03:50]
aiball sorry,, Mr. P [03:50]
mircea_popescu not rly [03:51]
mircea_popescu she's really rocking it. [03:51]
broomkorn lol at that thread [03:52]
mircea_popescu totally. [03:53]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [03:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.30000, Best ask: 24.35001, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 24.30000, 24 hour volume: 126809.53474656, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.79075 [03:54]
mircea_popescu i've learned to look at ticker when Bugpowder logs in [03:55]
Bugpowder Heh [03:55]
Bugpowder Not bad [03:55]
Bugpowder Time will tell though [03:55]
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Namworld I'm the fucker who got the P230T bugpowder =/ [03:55]
Bugpowder How many? [03:56]
Namworld 4000 [03:56]
mircea_popescu 5k? [03:56]
Bugpowder 3k? [03:56]
mircea_popescu eh. [03:56]
Bugpowder Notice [03:56]
Namworld in between [03:56]
Bugpowder Noice [03:56]
mircea_popescu that may not actually come in the money. [03:56]
Bugpowder Yah I am locked and loaded [03:56]
Namworld maybe not. [03:56]
Namworld But I think the recent growth was too much too fast [03:56]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder which direction ? short btc ? [03:57]
mircea_popescu Namworld for sure. [03:57]
Bugpowder 10k puts [03:57]
Namworld As I said, I have a 16-18 USD/BTC valuation. [03:57]
mircea_popescu i think tho we will see 24-25 for the rest of the month. [03:57]
Namworld Possible. [03:57]
BitHub true, no 30? [03:57]
Bugpowder I have no idea [03:57]
mircea_popescu i doubt it. [03:57]
Bugpowder I just am swinging for the fences [03:57]
BitHub maybe a lil sniff of 30 [03:57]
mircea_popescu the way i've seen this to work is when high volume breaks, the price gets set [03:57]
mircea_popescu and high volume just broke [03:58]
BitHub 25 would be nice for a while tho [03:58]
mircea_popescu yup [03:58]
mircea_popescu pretty perfect. [03:58]
Bugpowder There is a LOT of overhead pressure [03:58]
Bugpowder 25 for a while would be great for smoke [03:58]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder there was a lot of under pressure for a while. [03:58]
Bugpowder S.mpoe [03:58]
kakobrekla well that forum proves it [03:59]
Bugpowder Yeah and it it fcking annihilated while I had dinner [03:59]
DeadWeasel that overhead has released a bit too. [03:59]
kakobrekla whore are retarded in reality as well. [03:59]
kakobrekla whores* [03:59]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol [03:59]
mircea_popescu srsly, don't knock whores, some of my best friends were hos. [03:59]
kakobrekla well deze bitched be dumb. [04:00]
BitHub when you have all your funds tied up in bitcoin its days like this you wish your local vedor took bitcoin for a pack of smokes or something [04:00]
kakobrekla bitches [04:00]
kakobrekla meh cant type. [04:00]
mircea_popescu BitHub having all your funds tied in bitcoin is unsanitary. [04:00]
Bugpowder There is a good chance of another leg down. [04:00]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla tru dat. [04:00]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder also tru dat. [04:00]
BitHub well i mean not all my funds but all the fiat i put aside just for bitcoin [04:00]
Bugpowder Usually these moves are damped oscillations [04:00]
Bugpowder 23.5 looks like a settle [04:01]
Bugpowder But... [04:01]
Namworld Well if bugpowder thinks like me, I'm satisfied. [04:01]
Bugpowder Anything is possible, cause bitcoin. [04:01]
Namworld yeah [04:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1530 @ 0.00609588 = 9.3267 BTC [+] [04:02]
BitHub i think i should try other stock exchanges and stuff [04:02]
BitHub having it all tied up into one site, real bad idea [04:02]
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BitHub trying btcjam.com - i'll give you guys a review in a week. Let you know if its any good or a waste of time. [04:04]
kakobrekla hi, you must be new. [04:04]
DeadWeasel lol [04:05]
mircea_popescu lol totally. [04:06]
swhitt anyone have opinions on coinbr vs havelock? [04:06]
mircea_popescu BitHub look up the girl's suspected scam thread in btctalk [04:06]
mircea_popescu swhitt yes. jurov likes coinbr and topace isn't here. [04:06]
swhitt looking for a 2nd trading platform in addition to mpex [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006386 = 2.7594 BTC [-] [04:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12479 @ 0.0006384 = 7.9666 BTC [-] [04:06]
swhitt mircea_popescu: _they_ should eh? [04:06]
mircea_popescu i guess so hehe [04:08]
Bugpowder Btcjam? Lol [04:08]
pigeons you can buy everything on coinbr, only s.dice passthrough on havelock and 2 "mining bonds" [04:08]
BitHub ? [04:08]
BitHub its only 100btc [04:08]
BitHub i think i'll get most of it back [04:08]
pigeons s.dice on coinbr pays 100% - account management fee, on havelock it only pays 95% [04:08]
Bugpowder Coinbr is all you need if you have under 300btc [04:08]
Bugpowder Mpex is all u need if you have more [04:09]
kakobrekla there are many better places to put 100 btc [04:09]
DeadWeasel where? [04:09]
BitHub like? [04:09]
DeadWeasel a hookers twat? [04:09]
swhitt a cold wallet? [04:09]
DeadWeasel how many btc can I fit in there? [04:09]
BitHub well it is valentines day [04:09]
BitHub a cold wallet? [04:09]
DeadWeasel maybe if I used a thumbdrive, i could keep it in her ass. [04:09]
swhitt ∞ in a cold wallet [04:09]
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BitHub but i want to make a lil btc off it [04:09]
mircea_popescu BitHub so buy mpoe bonds [04:10]
Bowjob lol someone wanted me to buy bitcoins for them I get 10% commision [04:10]
mircea_popescu at least if you lose your btc you know why. [04:10]
swhitt well, ∞ as ∞ -> 21,000,000 [04:10]
BitHub i don't even know what mpoe bonds means [04:10]
mircea_popescu who was runningthe pt, Namworld ? [04:11]
BitHub i still got lots to learn before doing that [04:11]
Bugpowder_ coinbr [04:11]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel re thumbdrive : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136077828147.gif [04:11]
Bugpowder_ no need to rush into things [04:11]
Bugpowder_ learn about the market [04:11]
Bugpowder_ there are always new opportunities arising [04:11]
BitHub i'm only about 6months into it [04:11]
mircea_popescu if he does things like dropping 100btc on btcjam he won't have much need to learn anything [04:11]
BitHub but learning heaps [04:11]
DeadWeasel those aren't thumbs [04:11]
DeadWeasel mircea_popescu: ^ [04:12]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel depends on your standards :D [04:12]
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mircea_popescu they look like thumbs to me. [04:12]
BitHub luzl mircea i was joking about that, i just dropped 5btc to try it out [04:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3459 @ 0.0006384 = 2.2082 BTC [-] [04:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10741 @ 0.00063696 = 6.8416 BTC [-] [04:12]
DeadWeasel she sure seems to like it [04:12]
da2ce7 darkee DBordello DeadWeasel Diablo-D3 dub dust-otc [04:12]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel buttcoin! [04:12]
mircea_popescu BitHub that may work. keep us appraised. [04:12]
Bowjob is coin br a pass thru or is it a bot that directly trades at mpex? [04:12]
DeadWeasel mircea_popescu: my btcs would not be safe in there. [04:12]
BitHub will do :) [04:12]
mircea_popescu Bowjob it's a broker i thought ? [04:13]
Bowjob so i cant sell directly on mpex thru coin.br then [04:13]
mircea_popescu um [04:13]
DeadWeasel think we'll settle here? 24.5? [04:13]
BitHub is mpex doing the most volume right now? [04:13]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel i was sayingso but these ppl disagreed with me [04:13]
BitHub for stocks [04:13]
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mircea_popescu BitHub for everything by very far. [04:13]
DeadWeasel BitHub: MPEX is like the cartel. [04:14]
BitHub like a real drug cartel? [04:14]
DeadWeasel BitHub: they sell the drugs to smaller syndicates, who then open 'exchanges' [04:14]
mircea_popescu if frank sinatra were a website [04:14]
mircea_popescu he'd be frank mpexatra. [04:14]
DeadWeasel BitHub: which are poorly written and run websites they basically sell you what they bought from the 'Cartel' [04:15]
BitHub ahh ok [04:15]
DeadWeasel or so they would have us believe. [04:15]
kakobrekla ;;tslb [04:15]
gribble Time since last block: 5 minutes and 47 seconds [04:15]
kakobrekla hrm [04:15]
DeadWeasel it's all completely improvable and insane, but if you're not a total twat you can make a couple BTC. [04:15]
DeadWeasel which is fun, but effectively not worth your time if you have a real job. [04:16]
Diablo-D3 wait [04:16]
Diablo-D3 people who ARENT total twats? [04:16]
Diablo-D3 where? [04:16]
DeadWeasel not in here. [04:16]
DeadWeasel i'm a twat. [04:16]
DeadWeasel your a twat. [04:16]
DeadWeasel everywhere a twat twat [04:16]
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DeadWeasel *you're [04:16]
DeadWeasel see I just proved it [04:16]
* DeadWeasel is a twat [04:16]
mircea_popescu jurov's a twink [04:16]
DeadWeasel ;;slap deadweasel [04:16]
* gribble slaps deadweasel with a whipping up guggle [04:16]
Diablo-D3 *your [04:17]
Diablo-D3 damnit [04:17]
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DeadWeasel haha [04:17]
DeadWeasel twat [04:17]
Bugpowder_ Let's settle at $20 [04:17]
Bugpowder_ seems reasonable [04:17]
mircea_popescu lol [04:17]
mircea_popescu ;;twat deadwat [04:17]
gribble Error: "twat" is not a valid command. [04:17]
mircea_popescu !twat gnat [04:17]
DeadWeasel !twat MPOE [04:17]
mircea_popescu nu-uh [04:17]
DeadWeasel come on rebound! [04:18]
DeadWeasel ;;ticker [04:18]
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gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 24.64900, Best ask: 24.72998, Bid-ask spread: 0.08098, Last trade: 24.64900, 24 hour volume: 126154.93631317, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77711 [04:18]
BitHub mpex doesn't seem very serious tho [04:18]
BitHub ? [04:18]
mircea_popescu lol it'd be so sad if it goes back to 30+ [04:18]
mircea_popescu these guys with all the puts... [04:18]
DeadWeasel why, how many you dump? [04:18]
BitHub seems like they could close down and take your coins any day now [04:18]
kakobrekla mpex is a fucking joke! [04:18]
mircea_popescu BitHub are you being serious ? [04:18]
DeadWeasel BitHub: EVERYONE could [04:18]
mircea_popescu this is like trolling. [04:18]
mircea_popescu only better. [04:18]
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DeadWeasel hold you BTCs in a cold wallet at home and don't look back. [04:19]
DeadWeasel just hold [04:19]
kakobrekla BitHub they dont even have CSS [04:19]
BitHub trolling? No i'm being serious its just the impression i'm getting from first reading it [04:19]
mircea_popescu !css kako [04:19]
Bowjob maybe they have a troll MPEX contest over at SA [04:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064666 = 2.7942 BTC [+] [04:19]
pigeons mpex is for gypsy puppets! [04:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10346 @ 0.00064701 = 6.694 BTC [+] [04:19]
mircea_popescu Bowjob totally. [04:19]
DeadWeasel Bowjob: that has to be it [04:19]
pigeons litecoin rulez [04:19]
mircea_popescu this is where i pimp my new tagline [04:19]
DeadWeasel pigeons: lol [04:19]
mircea_popescu pigeons is so fringe. he's always like, doing something nobody heard of [04:20]
DeadWeasel !twat alt coins [04:20]
BitHub lulz oh, this is your site mircea? [04:20]
mircea_popescu hence the MP. [04:20]
kakobrekla lulz [04:20]
* BitHub did not know that [04:20]
DeadWeasel mircea_popescu: is a harsh mistress. [04:20]
mircea_popescu also mpoe-pr is my pr chick. [04:20]
mircea_popescu and this is my bitcoin. [04:21]
BitHub kako, i actually like the simplicity of the website, easy to understand [04:21]
mircea_popescu and roger ver is my son. [04:21]
mircea_popescu they call him bitcoin bejesus. [04:21]
BitHub i think it just gives off a first impression [04:21]
BitHub bad [04:21]
Bugpowder_ reddit sentiment remains high [04:22]
Bugpowder_ http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/18haei/sell_sell_mayday_mayday/ [04:22]
BitHub i think its more catered to insiders of the community, rather than the mainstream people [04:22]
Bugpowder_ not sure if this is a counter indicator or not [04:22]
DeadWeasel 30day volume is nearly 2 million BTC [04:22]
DeadWeasel on gox [04:22]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ that should be a meme. [04:22]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel ya was a heavy day today [04:23]
BitHub any discount on the 30btc fee for mpex mircea :P [04:23]
DeadWeasel 30K this morning, 140K tonight. crazy [04:23]
Bugpowder_ yes [04:23]
Bugpowder_ use my referral code [04:23]
BitHub oh? [04:23]
mircea_popescu BitHub if you use someone's fingerprint you each get 5 btc [04:23]
Bugpowder_ 1578A821 [04:23]
mircea_popescu its in the faq [04:23]
BitHub neat [04:23]
mircea_popescu he needs the whole keyid tho [04:24]
mircea_popescu not just the tail [04:24]
Bugpowder_ AA14 8EAF 40BE 9C02 F091 F382 F157 3A6B 1578 A821 [04:24]
Bugpowder_ SAVE 5BTC [04:24]
kakobrekla thats too much. [04:24]
BitHub so use that whole thing? [04:24]
kakobrekla neither of those is key id [04:24]
Bugpowder_ I dunno [04:24]
Bugpowder_ fuck [04:24]
kakobrekla ;;getrating bugpowder [04:25]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Bugpowder, rated since Tue Sep 11 08:01:46 2012. Cumulative rating 7, from 5 total ratings. Received ratings: 5 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Bugpowder [04:25]
BitHub does mpex have a failsafe proof backup plan if a GLBSE happens? [04:25]
Bugpowder_ 1573a6b1578a821 [04:25]
kakobrekla http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=Bugpowder [04:25]
Bugpowder_ use that one [04:25]
kakobrekla F15 [04:25]
kakobrekla that is what you need [04:25]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ he's trolling you. [04:25]
kakobrekla Bugpowder_^^ [04:25]
mircea_popescu AA148EAF40BE9C02F091F382F1573A6B1578A821 is teh right thing [04:25]
BitHub ahh okey, thanks [04:26]
kakobrekla afaik F1573A6B1578A821 is the right thing [04:26]
kakobrekla faq says key id [04:26]
Bugpowder_ F1573A6B1578A821 [04:26]
BitHub i'll go with mircea [04:26]
Bugpowder_ its tru [04:26]
mircea_popescu the longer the better. [04:26]
Bugpowder_ can we get a ROTA ruling [04:26]
kakobrekla you are all fucked [04:26]
Bugpowder_ ?? [04:26]
mircea_popescu anyway, re failsafe : see the faq! [04:26]
mircea_popescu there's a dump and all sorts of discussions [04:26]
BitHub ahh check [04:26]
BitHub will do [04:26]
mircea_popescu rota rules you must all buy me a shrubbery. [04:26]
DeadWeasel BitHub: just remember to breathe. [04:27]
* BitHub is nervous [04:27]
BitHub i only half know what i'm doing [04:27]
BitHub but you gotta burn some btc to learn [04:27]
mircea_popescu so relax, take it easy [04:27]
Bugpowder_ BitHub put all your money in S.MPOE [04:27]
mircea_popescu what's the hurry. [04:27]
Diablo-D3 bithub, put all your money in dmc 2.0 [04:28]
Bugpowder_ put all your money in ART [04:28]
DeadWeasel or real estate. [04:28]
kakobrekla put all your money in pirate. [04:28]
mircea_popescu da fuck is art ? [04:28]
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DeadWeasel that has art on it. [04:28]
BitHub i just want to start earning 1btc a day [04:28]
BitHub as quickly as possible [04:28]
BitHub off divs or whatever [04:28]
DeadWeasel sell your ass [04:28]
DeadWeasel or that [04:28]
Bugpowder_ BitHub divs are not where its at [04:29]
Bugpowder_ capital appreciation outweighs it [04:29]
mircea_popescu he has a point. [04:29]
Bugpowder_ So much capital flow into MPEX must go somewhere [04:29]
BitHub have no idea what that means [04:29]
Bugpowder_ stock price rises have crushed the dividends [04:29]
BitHub oh [04:29]
mircea_popescu actually i don't even have that much capital [04:30]
Bugpowder_ Like S.DICE has paid out around what, .01? [04:30]
mircea_popescu there's totally 5-6 mn still waiting for a home out there [04:30]
Bugpowder_ err [04:30]
Bugpowder_ .001 [04:30]
BitHub i think a year from now i'll be doing alot better [04:30]
Bugpowder_ but price has risen .0035 [04:30]
kakobrekla !ticker m s.dice [04:31]
BitHub just need to get that first n00b year out of the way [04:31]
mircea_popescu sounds about right [04:31]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00598092 / 0.00617859 / 0.00625 (29517 shares, 182.37 BTC), 7D: 0.004321 / 0.00619263 / 0.0064 (1926831 shares, 11,932.15 BTC), 30D: 0.00085848 / 0.0056144 / 0.0075 (8131062 shares, 45,651.11 BTC) [04:31]
Bugpowder_ good, keep that positive attitude and you'll go far son. [04:31]
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BitHub :) [04:31]
mircea_popescu you know what i just realised ? [04:31]
BitHub you're right mircea no rush [04:31]
mircea_popescu there's actually perversely more room for stock appreciation than for dividends [04:32]
mircea_popescu because the listed busiensses are MUCH better at their business than avg btc person at allocating capital [04:32]
Bugpowder_ As risk perception of bitcoin goes down, stock price should approach a point where dividends are paying 5% of price a year [04:33]
BitHub so buying and selling shares is much better than just waiting on divs? [04:33]
Bugpowder_ buying mostly [04:33]
Bugpowder_ but divs are nice too [04:33]
BitHub every share i have pays a div, which is nice, long term play [04:33]
Bugpowder_ S.MPOE is like the daytrading stock [04:33]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 20*12*20 / 10000 [04:33]
gribble 0.48 [04:33]
Bugpowder_ bots are on it all the time [04:33]
mircea_popescu so that'd be a half bitcoin s.dice [04:34]
Bugpowder_ S.DICE is the heavy divvy stock [04:34]
Bugpowder_ but I have concerns about their revenue staying up [04:34]
BitHub yeah me too [04:34]
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mircea_popescu mo money mo problems [04:34]
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BitHub i think it might be the myspace of the bitcoin world [04:34]
Bugpowder_ until I see more money flowing into the big betting accounts [04:34]
Bugpowder_ S.BBET has potential, but got bought really high in the IPO [04:34]
BitHub might be a passing fad? sdice [04:35]
Bugpowder_ so shares are very expensive relative to current div [04:35]
Bugpowder_ but most growth potential there [04:35]
BitHub i purchased alot of s.bbet on ipo [04:35]
BitHub long term play as well [04:35]
Bugpowder_ Oh? [04:35]
Bugpowder_ so you are not a n00b [04:35]
BitHub kind of [04:35]
mircea_popescu well, bitbet made ~1400 worth of bets in jan. there's already like 1300+ and it's half february [04:35]
mircea_popescu or not even [04:35]
mircea_popescu and the div was calculated on ~400 btc that closed in january. [04:35]
Bugpowder_ so dividend payout is... [04:36]
mircea_popescu prolly gonna increase [04:36]
BitHub i love divs hehe [04:36]
Bugpowder_ Then you have the futures [04:36]
Bugpowder_ but nobody will buy them [04:36]
Bugpowder_ for some reason [04:36]
BitHub i don't understand those enough [04:37]
Bugpowder_ despite the very resonable sale price on the current MAR futures [04:37]
Bugpowder_ and the options [04:37]
Bugpowder_ are where the real money is made [04:37]
Bugpowder_ and lost [04:37]
mircea_popescu ya options can well wipe you, esp short [04:37]
BitHub do you think bbet would exchange some shares with me for some domains? [04:39]
Bugpowder_ o fuk [04:40]
Bugpowder_ 2200 bid at 24.5 [04:40]
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kakobrekla so much for cheap weekend coins [04:41]
Bugpowder_ heh [04:41]
Bugpowder_ we will see [04:41]
Bugpowder_ I'm not giving up yet [04:42]
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kakobrekla i have more euros comming in dunno it just doesnt stop [04:42]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.20100, Best ask: 25.25167, Bid-ask spread: 0.05067, Last trade: 25.43850, 24 hour volume: 125018.23437143, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77011 [04:48]
mircea_popescu rollercoaster of fun. [04:48]
mircea_popescu BitHub you mean, they give shares for your domains ? [04:48]
DeadWeasel unlikely [04:49]
Bugpowder_ fuuuuuk [04:49]
Bugpowder_ dis [04:49]
Bugpowder_ I should have checked the reddit sentiment index [04:49]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.21105, Best ask: 25.29999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08894, Last trade: 25.21103, 24 hour volume: 125052.58662713, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77029 [04:49]
mircea_popescu lol [04:50]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ what do you have now, calls ? puts ? [04:50]
kakobrekla this is milk. [04:50]
Bugpowder_ lots of puts [04:50]
mircea_popescu o. [04:50]
Bugpowder_ no volume on this move [04:50]
mircea_popescu that may not be the best thing. [04:50]
Bugpowder_ meh [04:50]
Bugpowder_ we will see [04:50]
Bugpowder_ Show me a 5k volume candleon the 15m and I'll believe it [04:51]
* DeadWeasel has a post-secret moment. "i bought 50btc at $25" [04:51]
DeadWeasel fawk [04:51]
DeadWeasel but it looks less bad now [04:52]
Bugpowder_ very very hard to time that shit [04:52]
DeadWeasel I got most at 14-16 [04:52]
DeadWeasel shoulda waited for todays dump though, but bugpowder is right [04:52]
DeadWeasel ain't no way to know [04:52]
DeadWeasel so I Hooooooooolllldd [04:53]
mircea_popescu ya, nobody;'s timing this crap. [04:53]
DeadWeasel i love the speculation thread on bitcointalk [04:53]
mircea_popescu i mean even if you do it, [04:53]
mircea_popescu you prolly got lucky. [04:53]
DeadWeasel i geta kick out of it [04:53]
Bugpowder_ I think we are gonna drop from here [04:53]
DeadWeasel if you constantly watch the different charts, it's possible, but i work and eat and poop. [04:53]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [04:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.21206, Best ask: 25.30000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08794, Last trade: 25.30000, 24 hour volume: 125063.37060347, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77082 [04:55]
mircea_popescu hey vwap actually moving up [04:55]
Bugpowder_ picking out apartments in santa monica [04:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19317 @ 0.00063722 = 12.3092 BTC [-] [05:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2033 @ 0.00063722 = 1.2955 BTC [-] [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1665 @ 0.00064701 = 1.0773 BTC [+] [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064784 = 2.7993 BTC [+] [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064784 = 2.7993 BTC [+] [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1810 @ 0.00064785 = 1.1726 BTC [+] [05:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3754 @ 0.00063696 = 2.3911 BTC [-] [05:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2096 @ 0.0006368 = 1.3347 BTC [-] [05:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2225 @ 0.0006368 = 1.4169 BTC [-] [05:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4615 @ 0.00063679 = 2.9388 BTC [-] [05:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5191 @ 0.00064785 = 3.363 BTC [+] [05:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006518 = 2.8164 BTC [+] [05:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00065181 = 4.2368 BTC [+] [05:12]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [05:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.00929, Best ask: 25.19900, Bid-ask spread: 0.18971, Last trade: 25.19900, 24 hour volume: 126127.08330674, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.77347 [05:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 100 @ 0.0063 = 0.63 BTC [+] [05:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-] [05:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 500 @ 0.00067 = 0.335 BTC [-] [05:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 692 @ 0.00065181 = 0.4511 BTC [+] [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065205 = 2.8175 BTC [+] [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00065222 = 0.6522 BTC [+] [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4781 @ 0.00065223 = 3.1183 BTC [+] [05:23]
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Bugpowder ha, the new header borked my spreadsheet [05:29]
Bugpowder fixed now [05:29]
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swhitt is there a way to subscribe to the trades feed without polling the rss feed? [05:35]
swhitt and how often is considered kosher (on MPEx) [05:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0157 BTC [-] [05:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 8 @ 0.0156 = 0.1248 BTC [-] [05:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0154 BTC [-] [05:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00065223 = 8.642 BTC [+] [05:39]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00595 = 0.0595 BTC [-] [05:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.0061 = 0.061 BTC [+] [05:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.0061 = 0.122 BTC [+] [05:42]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [05:42]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.56458, Best ask: 25.57789, Bid-ask spread: 0.01331, Last trade: 25.42042, 24 hour volume: 131695.93004727, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.80064 [05:42]
kakobrekla lolz [05:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 10 @ 0.00195 = 0.0195 BTC [-] [05:42]
kakobrekla 25.9 [05:43]
kakobrekla haha [05:43]
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kakobrekla unserious. [05:43]
Namworld wow, did it bounce back to 26? [05:44]
Namworld Look at the depth charts tho [05:44]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/markets/mtgoxUSD.html [05:44]
kakobrekla 5k buy 5 min ago [05:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00981 BTC [-] [05:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.00981 BTC [-] [05:45]
kakobrekla i am aware of depth, lookin at same thing since 2011 or what was it [05:45]
kakobrekla http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [05:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-] [05:46]
Bugpowder fuk [05:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.0063 BTC [+] [05:46]
kakobrekla preety insane eh [05:46]
Bugpowder deez nuts [05:47]
kakobrekla there we go, bids rising [05:47]
Bugpowder I wish I had enough coins to destroy this rally [05:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [+] [05:49]
Namworld One of the larger player off to sell off a good chunk soon before it's too late. [05:49]
Bugpowder stay strong NAMWORLD [05:49]
Namworld What for? [05:50]
Namworld I'm certain it will go back down hard soon. [05:50]
Namworld But I'm not 100% sure that soon will be before the 22th [05:50]
Namworld Either way, I put 280 BTC down on my puts [05:51]
Bugpowder sheeeit [05:52]
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Bugpowder there was a 5k green candle on the bounce now [05:52]
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Namworld Old news [05:53]
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Bugpowder make the dings stopppp [05:53]
Bugpowder I dunnot though [05:53]
Bugpowder that was a HEAVY move down [05:54]
Bugpowder not convinced the drop is done [05:54]
Bugpowder christ on a stick [05:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1130 @ 0.00065223 = 0.737 BTC [+] [05:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9970 @ 0.00065228 = 6.5032 BTC [+] [05:54]
Namworld I am not either... [05:54]
Namworld Dropped a lot, then it started going back up fast [05:55]
Bugpowder it was a slow fall [05:55]
Namworld people bought... but that was because there's no market depth. [05:55]
Bugpowder fo a while [05:55]
Namworld I look at the depth charts [05:55]
Bugpowder Well... Cant exite [05:55]
Bugpowder without assrapage [05:55]
Bugpowder I'll sleep on it [05:55]
Bugpowder That dude that covered his put short [05:56]
Bugpowder raped again [05:56]
Bugpowder he is MPOEs best freind [05:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5796 @ 0.00065169 = 3.7772 BTC [-] [05:56]
Namworld When it's either lose 90% on exiting or stay on your decision... [05:56]
Bugpowder funds half the bond [05:56]
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Namworld Better stick to your decision. That 10% will be no consolation. [05:56]
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Bugpowder this still comforts me [05:57]
Bugpowder http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [05:57]
Namworld Well yeah, at least rally looks killed. [05:57]
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Bugpowder i dunno [05:58]
Bugpowder I just dont know [05:58]
Bugpowder I don't think it was a bad call though [05:58]
Bugpowder like [05:58]
Bugpowder I bought the puts at 25.00 [05:58]
Bugpowder and it went to 21.72 [05:59]
Bugpowder that is not a bad call [05:59]
Namworld I think the odds of the rally going down before the 22th are good. That first drop and more bearish ask is good enough to me. [05:59]
Namworld I've been waiting on it for weeks. [05:59]
Bugpowder going to bed [06:00]
Bugpowder good luck [06:00]
Namworld To you too. [06:00]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [06:08]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.78395, Best ask: 26.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.21605, Last trade: 26.25000, 24 hour volume: 137291.37159601, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.87115 [06:08]
mircea_popescu sooo.. back up ? [06:08]
kakobrekla im suprised [06:08]
Namworld Some bought back a few thousands... [06:08]
Namworld But now the bids depths are very short [06:09]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [06:09]
mircea_popescu methinks the mtgox book may be as meaningless as the mpex book. [06:13]
Namworld Maybe [06:13]
mircea_popescu swhitt i guess you could use feedburner or such ? [06:14]
swhitt mircea_popescu: hi [06:14]
mircea_popescu I wish I had enough coins to destroy this rally <<< one doesn't simply destroy this rally. [06:14]
swhitt I was just wondering how often would be considered 'impolite' by yourself [06:14]
swhitt if I were to be polling for changes [06:15]
mircea_popescu the rss ? anything over 10 times a minute i guess [06:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7125 @ 0.00065228 = 4.6475 BTC [+] [06:16]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe [06:16]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063679 / 0.00064992 / 0.00066142 (1336281 shares, 868.48 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065743 / 0.0007 (18930104 shares, 12,445.28 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066264 / 0.0007 (72883171 shares, 48,295.65 BTC) [06:16]
swhitt mircea_popescu: oh, ok. I won't be anything near that. I'd let you know before I did anything close to that. How often does assbot poll? [06:17]
mircea_popescu assbot gets a push [06:17]
swhitt ah [06:18]
mircea_popescu you can also get the twitter feed, if you have a twitter api key [06:18]
mircea_popescu (twitter also gets a push) [06:18]
swhitt no way to subscribe to a push at this time? [06:18]
mircea_popescu nah, not currently. [06:18]
swhitt that might be easier to ensure that everything is up to date. [06:18]
swhitt kk [06:18]
swhitt thanks for the info [06:18]
mircea_popescu ya but you'd have to be strategically important. in general what im thinking is push to some high uptime strong distribution networks and everyone can poll those [06:19]
mircea_popescu seems the most stable/efficient solution [06:19]
mircea_popescu you can probably configure a listener bot in this chan and it can push to you wherever tho [06:19]
swhitt yeah, I completely understand. That makes sense. [06:19]
kakobrekla if you give me an intiative, i can repush. [06:20]
swhitt well, I'd want redundancy if it wasn't the "official" feed [06:20]
swhitt so I might do a combination of twitter+irc [06:20]
swhitt let me see. [06:20]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=&i=&c=1&s=2008-11-01&e=2013-02-14&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=SMA&m1=365&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& [06:21]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [06:21]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.93500, Best ask: 26.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.06500, Last trade: 26.00000, 24 hour volume: 141166.77007292, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.30000, 24 hour vwap: 24.90903 [06:21]
Namworld That brown line is average growth on 365 days [06:21]
mircea_popescu that shows uptrend neh ? [06:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3455 @ 0.00065228 = 2.2536 BTC [+] [06:22]
Namworld yeah, uptrend. But the current price? Might be a bubble. [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12295 @ 0.00065327 = 8.032 BTC [+] [06:22]
swhitt is there any way to see 2nd derivative of that trendline? [06:22]
Namworld I don't know [06:23]
Namworld The price raising fast over the yearly trend seems to be near pirate end, when lots of people got burned. Dropped a bit afterward. Then everyone started to load up for some reason. [06:24]
Namworld Now in the last days, no asks almost. Price skyrocketed, no one was selling. [06:24]
Namworld It just seems like that price is not sustainable to me. Although I think Bitcoins are worth more than last year and will continue trending upward. [06:25]
Namworld It's just that now, we're way too high. [06:25]
mircea_popescu well not really. [06:26]
mircea_popescu the thing with bitcoin is, the larger the total value the more appealing they are to people. [06:26]
mircea_popescu so i think one of the reasons price is going up is to give space for various interests. [06:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.748 = 2.244 BTC [-] [06:30]
ThickAsThieves finally caught up on the chat log, mp, that stripper thread is great [06:30]
Namworld Maybe... I don't see the appeal in higher prices tho [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4305 @ 0.00065327 = 2.8123 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7645 @ 0.00065379 = 4.9982 BTC [+] [06:31]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves totally. she owns them like.... [06:31]
mircea_popescu Namworld well the appeal is this : if you go to iran and say hey, don't be stupid moving your dough on aplane, move it in bitcoin [06:32]
mircea_popescu they go "does bitcoin have enough mkt cap to cover 200mn ?!" [06:32]
mircea_popescu you better be able to say yes. [06:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.99 = 1.98 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.748 BTC [-] [06:34]
ThickAsThieves Do BitBets resolve before their closing date if satisfied? http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/ [06:34]
ThickAsThieves or do they stick to the schedule regardless [06:34]
ThickAsThieves (high was 26.60) [06:34]
kakobrekla ;;ticker [06:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.20004, Best ask: 26.25000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04996, Last trade: 26.25000, 24 hour volume: 146215.43264948, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.60000, 24 hour vwap: 24.95764 [06:35]
mircea_popescu ya that'll prolly resolve soon [06:35]
Namworld it doesn't... if anyone would buy for that much, would skyrocket the price. But then if he wants to sell? [06:35]
ThickAsThieves he doesnt sell, he keeps transacting in BTC [06:36]
ThickAsThieves or sells slowly [06:36]
ThickAsThieves or both more likely [06:36]
kakobrekla interesting moody shows 26.3 high? [06:36]
ThickAsThieves btccharts is where i got mine [06:37]
kakobrekla the thing is [06:37]
ThickAsThieves mtgox.com shows it too [06:37]
kakobrekla some prices are converted [06:37]
kakobrekla mtgox usd never reached that high [06:37]
kakobrekla mtgox xxx did [06:38]
kakobrekla converted to usd ... goes over it [06:38]
jcpham Up huh? [06:38]
maximian 26.65… this rally is mad [06:38]
ThickAsThieves hehe [06:39]
jcpham I am without computer [06:39]
ThickAsThieves that good kako? :) [06:39]
ThickAsThieves https://mtgox.com/index.html?Currency=USD [06:39]
jcpham So afk it hurtz [06:39]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell bugpowder hey man! new top. 26.6! [06:39]
gribble The operation succeeded. [06:39]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [06:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.19070, Best ask: 26.34181, Bid-ask spread: 0.15111, Last trade: 26.64000, 24 hour volume: 147736.52475072, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 24.97344 [06:39]
kakobrekla yes it just passed 26.6 in gox usd [06:40]
mircea_popescu yuppers [06:40]
mircea_popescu crzy [06:40]
kakobrekla fucked [06:40]
ThickAsThieves i bet about 3btc on monday morning :) [06:40]
ThickAsThieves i think it was monday... no matter [06:41]
Namworld It's a bulltrap... don't listen to mircea... there's some dude who bought tons of calls. He wants price to go down. He just wants more people to buy calls prior to that =P [06:41]
ThickAsThieves after our conversation about BitBet ive been hanging there more [06:41]
Namworld That bitcoins are sustainably worth that much... it's a possibility but I'm betting against it. [06:42]
mircea_popescu lol wut [06:42]
mircea_popescu anyway, im off to bed. take care all! [06:43]
ThickAsThieves man, people are panic buying and will for a while [06:43]
ThickAsThieves adios [06:43]
Namworld Bye [06:43]
Namworld Maybe I'm just a fool... put the average bitcoiner and newbies seem incredibly bearish... that gotta blow up at some point. [06:43]
ThickAsThieves nah, bears are just loud [06:44]
broomkorn ROAR [06:44]
Namworld eh [06:44]
Namworld I meant bullish >.> [06:44]
ThickAsThieves i'm not saying *something* cant stop the rally [06:44]
ThickAsThieves but the natural course is up [06:44]
ThickAsThieves people are investing every day in BTC [06:44]
pigeons how long have you been here ThickAsThieves? [06:45]
Namworld That's the kind of thoughts that creates bubbles... natural course is up... everyone is investing in it... we'll always have someone else to sell to [06:45]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [11:51]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.96624, Best ask: 26.01999, Bid-ask spread: 0.05375, Last trade: 25.96624, 24 hour volume: 158444.85494761, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.05489 [11:51]
mircea_popescu heh. wild times [11:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.00067 BTC [-] [11:51]
mircea_popescu Anonymous [11:54]
mircea_popescu fuck you bitcoin i lost. [11:54]
mircea_popescu lol sweet tears [11:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006428 = 2.7775 BTC [+] [12:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4629 @ 0.00064308 = 2.9768 BTC [+] [12:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4788 @ 0.00063992 = 3.0639 BTC [-] [12:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1762 @ 0.00063917 = 1.1262 BTC [-] [12:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2559 @ 0.00063917 = 1.6356 BTC [-] [12:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5841 @ 0.00063916 = 3.7333 BTC [-] [12:21]
Namworld mircea: ? [12:22]
Namworld Did the guy with calls cash out already? [12:23]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/221/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-stay-above-20-24-and/ [12:23]
mircea_popescu that. [12:23]
Namworld oh. Lol [12:23]
mjr__ what is the vwap at now? [12:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6009 @ 0.00063916 = 3.8407 BTC [-] [12:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12891 @ 0.000638 = 8.2245 BTC [-] [12:24]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [12:24]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.07000, Best ask: 26.07001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 26.07001, 24 hour volume: 158889.21035303, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.05851 [12:24]
mjr__ ;;bc,24hprc [12:24]
mircea_popescu 25.05 [12:24]
gribble 25.01 [12:24]
mircea_popescu somewhere there. [12:24]
mjr__ ok cool [12:25]
mjr__ options can be complicated enough without worrying about fx risk on top lol [12:26]
mircea_popescu "Yeah, yeah, I can tell you do not have a very highly developed capacity for abstract thinking -- developers do not necessarily care much about the design of things but often prioritize functionality, i. e. you are not my target market so go and play with some lego blocks, I am sure you will find them colorful and appealing." [12:26]
mircea_popescu dude totally. [12:26]
mircea_popescu i dunno why people keep ragging on mpoe-pr, she never says shit like that. [12:26]
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mircea_popescu http://www.btcguild.com/halloffame.php [12:35]
mircea_popescu o hey that guy is going well. [12:35]
mjr__ mircea, do you think that coinbase could be a large part of this rally? [12:39]
mjr__ they are pretty new and supposedly doing a ton of volume [12:39]
mjr__ expanding the user base [12:39]
mircea_popescu possibru [12:40]
mjr__ has to have some impact, i think it's a combination of them and the ton of news coming out about bitcoins [12:40]
mjr__ i even think that it is possible that if they have halted sales due to demand, that they caused the dip [12:41]
mjr__ but purely speculative [12:41]
mircea_popescu maybe it's driven by people trying to get on mpex. [12:41]
mjr__ i mean a million dollars a month is not crazy, but i think it would move the market [12:41]
mjr__ lol, s.dice is doing well for me right now [12:41]
mjr__ but mpoe is undervalued i think [12:41]
mjr__ i hold both [12:42]
mjr__ but i look forward to the end of the month report [12:42]
mircea_popescu won't be long now [12:42]
mjr__ yeah, can you believe that someone said to me on reddit (of course you can) that exchange rate has nothing to do with returns [12:43]
mjr__ ie. you either hold S.DICE or you hold Bitcoins [12:43]
mjr__ i'm like, you sell and buy S.DICE or S.MPOE using bitcoins, it's a way to grow your bitcoins, and the value of those bitcoins changes, so your total return when measured in dollars is a function of both effects [12:44]
mircea_popescu well, people think that s.dice betting volumes are somehow related to bitcoin price [12:45]
mircea_popescu this may or may not be true. if you look at the graphs there's no relation so far. [12:45]
mircea_popescu but maybe because other factors drowned it out and will be more apparent in the future. [12:45]
mjr__ true [12:47]
mjr__ but that does not change the fact that when measured in USD, your total return is still a function of price of bitcoins and price of shares + dividends [12:47]
mjr__ same on any stock exchange when you are in a different country [12:47]
mjr__ if i buy japanese stocks on nikei, i have to also account for yen/usd exchange [12:48]
mjr__ anyway, if i am expecting financial savvy on reddit, i should get my head checked [12:48]
mircea_popescu this is true. [12:48]
mircea_popescu on all counts lol [12:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0242 BTC [+] [12:49]
mjr__ http://www.universa.net/ check out this site, the first message is amazingly true [12:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00064308 = 1.1254 BTC [+] [12:50]
mircea_popescu i get http://www.adobe.com/images/shared/download_buttons/get_flash_player.gif [12:52]
mjr__ lol, yeah, it is a flash heavy site [12:52]
mjr__ but the first quote is... [12:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1962 @ 0.00064308 = 1.2617 BTC [+] [12:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3238 @ 0.00064399 = 2.0852 BTC [+] [12:53]
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mjr__ There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved. [12:54]
mjr__ it's the hedge fund that nassim taleb works at [12:54]
mjr__ i just finished antifragile, and i think it is a great book, i just wonder if he is aware of bitcoins [12:55]
mircea_popescu he's prolly right. [12:55]
mjr__ that was a quote from ludwig von mises [12:56]
mircea_popescu i think the bitcoin gambit currently is to try and persuade some hedge fund people. [12:56]
mjr__ that is what i am working on [12:56]
mjr__ because that will change everything [12:56]
mjr__ if you can bridge wall st and bitcoins [12:56]
mjr__ you can first of all get a rally up to $100 if capital starts pouring in [12:56]
mjr__ and second of all gain legitimacy as they are behind it [12:56]
wao http://bitbet.us/bet/153/s-mpoe-will-rise-this-spring/ [12:57]
mjr__ since they have washington in their pocket [12:57]
mjr__ my original plan was to get a public company with bitcoins as assets [12:57]
mjr__ but i would have to do a reverse merger for that and buy a public company [12:58]
mjr__ so might be too hard [12:58]
mjr__ so now i am looking at a slower approach to start a hedge fund type deal [12:58]
mjr__ i already convinced the CEO of my company and he is meeting with some Forex guys and is going to see if they could offer a product using bitcoins [12:59]
mjr__ at some point, people on wall st will realize that instead of gold, bitcoins are a much better opportunity against the dollar [12:59]
mircea_popescu they're realising. [12:59]
mjr__ at that point, there will be an influx of capital that has never been seen in bitcoin [12:59]
mjr__ they are [12:59]
mircea_popescu a bunch of mpex traders are actually traders. [12:59]
mjr__ i agree [13:00]
mjr__ i know [13:00]
mircea_popescu this has been going on for a while by now. [13:00]
mjr__ i know that a lot of people in this field are in finance [13:00]
mjr__ but they do this on their own [13:00]
mjr__ soon, it will be financial companies [13:00]
mjr__ and at that point, we will see a ton of demand all at once [13:00]
mjr__ in my opinion [13:00]
mjr__ egypt, argentina, venezuela etc. [13:01]
mjr__ fiat currencies are failing hard [13:01]
mjr__ and today i realized that our system is not tried and proven, it is very very new, we only adopted this in the US in 1971 [13:01]
mjr__ so it is still an experiment, having money not backed by any asset [13:02]
mjr__ if someone could start an ETF that tracks bitcoins, that would change everything, that is what i was trying to do, but it is hard [13:02]
mjr__ getting it publicly available would cost like 50k, and that is just basically a setup fee [13:03]
mircea_popescu so why's that hard ? [13:03]
mjr__ well...you get no return on that 50k [13:04]
mircea_popescu all you need is someone start a general partnership with a few tens of mils from a dozen friends [13:04]
mircea_popescu and it's done [13:04]
mjr__ well yeah [13:04]
mircea_popescu prolly happen this year, too. [13:04]
mjr__ if i had a few tens of mills it would be done already [13:04]
mjr__ its easy, you let people buy a bitcoin backed ETF with their etrade accounts [13:05]
mjr__ they have a hedge against the dollar [13:05]
mjr__ inflation proof [13:05]
mjr__ and currently yielding great returns [13:05]
mjr__ just a tiny fraction of the money on wall street could quadruple the "market cap" of bitcoin [13:05]
mircea_popescu o no [13:05]
mircea_popescu this would not be open to the masses for a decade at least. [13:06]
mircea_popescu you have to understand the "for people" attitude internet dweebs immediately paint over bitcoin is nothing of any consequence [13:06]
mircea_popescu they do it because that's all their experience allows. [13:06]
mircea_popescu otherwise, bitcoin is strictly for the elite. [13:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00064399 = 0.6974 BTC [+] [13:06]
mjr__ well yeah [13:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15102 @ 0.000644 = 9.7257 BTC [+] [13:06]
mjr__ but if you have a publicly traded stock [13:06]
mjr__ anyone can buy it [13:06]
mircea_popescu but you don't. [13:06]
mjr__ yeah :( not yet [13:07]
mircea_popescu you get a closed partnership with a billion under management [13:07]
mjr__ that is a nice way to do it too [13:07]
mircea_popescu why bother offer it to the public ? the incentives just aren't there [13:07]
mjr__ but i really want to offer it to the public [13:07]
mircea_popescu i guess you do, but that's neither here nor there. [13:07]
mjr__ so that everyone, even old people who don't understand, can get exposure [13:07]
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mircea_popescu old people that don't understand shouldn't get exposure. [13:07]
mircea_popescu actually : they should *not* get exposure. [13:07]
mjr__ well [13:08]
mjr__ i don't want to see us recreate the current system [13:08]
mjr__ but just put ourselves in positions of power [13:08]
mjr__ i want to see everyone enjoy this new change [13:08]
mjr__ or at least have the option to [13:08]
mircea_popescu dude. somebody who doesn't understand does not and can not have a position of power. [13:09]
mircea_popescu they'll just hurt themselves. [13:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00616999 = 5.553 BTC [+] [13:09]
mjr__ well not power [13:11]
mjr__ but i want to make it easier for them to get exposure to the bitcoin economy [13:11]
mjr__ without having to actually get involved [13:11]
mjr__ similar to gold ETF [13:11]
mircea_popescu why ? [13:11]
mircea_popescu this is a bad idea. [13:11]
mircea_popescu getting involved is a guarantee they put the effort into understanding. [13:11]
mjr__ well, not if they just buy shares using investment account [13:12]
mircea_popescu if they can't be bothered to do that, there's no reason to suspect they won't hurt themselves. [13:12]
mjr__ true [13:12]
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mjr__ but i think the option should be there [13:12]
mjr__ so that anyone can actually have a portfolio with publicly traded shares [13:12]
mjr__ that touches the world of bitcoins [13:12]
mjr__ so, whether it is a hedge fund or a public company or an etf [13:13]
mircea_popescu anyone currently can [13:13]
mircea_popescu for 30 btc and a little gpg knowledge. [13:13]
mjr__ i think something along those lines is coming [13:13]
mjr__ :) [13:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2385 @ 0.000638 = 1.5216 BTC [-] [13:13]
mjr__ gpg is also going to be huge [13:13]
mircea_popescu it literally takes the average knowledgeable person 1 hour to go from holding some fiat to holding some btc stocks. [13:13]
mircea_popescu now, that they'e not knowledgeable is ok, but should be fixed there, [13:14]
mircea_popescu not at thios other end [13:14]
mjr__ but also, i think it is so funny that someone tried to do the idea in reverse [13:14]
mircea_popescu what do you mean ? [13:14]
mjr__ a hedge fund wanted to raise btc so they could convert it out of btc and put it into the stock market [13:14]
mjr__ they were on twitter called btchedgefund or something [13:14]
mjr__ https://twitter.com/BTCHedgeFund [13:15]
mjr__ so backwards [13:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064498 = 2.787 BTC [+] [13:15]
mjr__ let me take your btc and put it into dollars [13:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.000645 = 0.7605 BTC [+] [13:15]
mjr__ going to grab a smoke brb [13:15]
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mjr__ it's funny though, my friend who i work with is so impressed with nomura because they use pgp [13:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063796 = 2.7566 BTC [-] [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6773 @ 0.00063795 = 4.3208 BTC [-] [13:22]
mjr__ he was like that is the future, they really have their shit together [13:22]
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mircea_popescu mjr__ ya that's nonsense [13:27]
mjr__ what is? [13:28]
mircea_popescu also often these are simply scams. [13:28]
mircea_popescu the backwards [13:28]
mjr__ yeah for sure [13:28]
mjr__ one of the things that i take away from all that i've experienced in bitcoins is that if you expect scams, you are safer than getting blindsided by "mortgage-back securities" or credit default swaps [13:32]
mjr__ the key is to know the risk and the downside [13:33]
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mircea_popescu hopefully at least. [13:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1179 @ 0.00063795 = 0.7521 BTC [-] [13:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1833 @ 0.00063754 = 1.1686 BTC [-] [14:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064598 = 2.7913 BTC [+] [14:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7783 @ 0.00064599 = 5.0277 BTC [+] [14:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.00067 = 0.067 BTC [-] [14:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 232 @ 0.0095 = 2.204 BTC [-] [14:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1650 @ 0.00064785 = 1.069 BTC [+] [15:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065143 = 2.8148 BTC [+] [15:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3212 @ 0.00065143 = 2.0924 BTC [+] [15:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 479 @ 0.00064072 = 0.3069 BTC [-] [15:10]
pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143972.msg1526968#msg1526968 [15:13]
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ThickAsThieves heh I almost linked that [15:17]
ThickAsThieves i dont remember seeing this before: http://www.gambling911.com/businessfinancial/major-us-facing-online-gambling-site-confirms-bitcoin-implemenation-012813.html [15:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064609 = 2.7918 BTC [+] [15:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20829 @ 0.0006459 = 13.4535 BTC [-] [15:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1109 @ 0.00064668 = 0.7172 BTC [+] [15:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8320 @ 0.00064699 = 5.383 BTC [+] [15:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2900 @ 0.006 = 17.4 BTC [-] [15:33]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V92OBNsQgxU [15:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.0062799 = 1.884 BTC [+] [15:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.000646 = 2.7914 BTC [-] [15:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6479 @ 0.0006459 = 4.1848 BTC [-] [15:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064669 = 2.7943 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8230 @ 0.00064699 = 5.3247 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00065144 = 6.7098 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16493 @ 0.0006527 = 10.765 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00065403 = 11.6417 BTC [+] [16:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1435 @ 0.00065464 = 0.9394 BTC [+] [16:03]
makomk malaimo markedathome maximian midnightmagic mircea_popescu mjr_ mjr__ mod6 molec [16:04]
mircea_popescu here you go mjr__ : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-rarge-part-of-this-lally/ [16:04]
ThickAsThieves i have a feeling it's gonna be a wild day [16:04]
mircea_popescu you're now famous [16:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00064591 = 1.5502 BTC [-] [16:07]
wao wuah [16:07]
jurov Nomura Securities copies MPEx after a year and a half… yeah here we go [16:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1921 @ 0.00064591 = 1.2408 BTC [-] [16:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9842 @ 0.0006459 = 6.3569 BTC [-] [16:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6137 @ 0.00064246 = 3.9428 BTC [-] [16:11]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [16:11]
mircea_popescu but it's the fact. first financial institution to use gpg ? mpex. [16:12]
mircea_popescu porn & buttcoinz drive innovation irl. [16:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10547 @ 0.00064246 = 6.776 BTC [-] [16:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00063888 = 10.9568 BTC [-] [16:30]
mjr__ honored to be cited...lol [16:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1424 @ 0.00065464 = 0.9322 BTC [+] [16:31]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18313.html#18346 that is actually pretty good. [16:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1041 @ 0.00065464 = 0.6815 BTC [+] [16:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065484 = 2.8296 BTC [+] [16:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5507 @ 0.00065485 = 3.6063 BTC [+] [16:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6231 @ 0.00065494 = 4.0809 BTC [+] [16:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12679 @ 0.00064744 = 8.2089 BTC [+] [16:49]
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mircea_popescu http://www.news.com.au/technology/massive-google-security-flaw-puts-users-details-on-display-for-all-to-find/story-e6frfro0-1226577210852 [16:52]
mircea_popescu google pulls a mtgox. [16:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11439 @ 0.00064744 = 7.4061 BTC [+] [16:54]
kakobrekla http://patakk.tumblr.com/zef [16:55]
mircea_popescu nothing there ? [16:57]
mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/e1307953d79b9c1a6ed4233436ef77f8/tumblr_mgog6jAtha1qc0s10o1_500.gif ? [16:58]
mircea_popescu http://www.examiner.com/article/eu-recession-as-robin-hood-tax-begins?cid=rss [16:59]
mircea_popescu lol [16:59]
kakobrekla its there [16:59]
kakobrekla just need a newer browser [16:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9446 @ 0.00065494 = 6.1866 BTC [+] [17:00]
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Bugpowder !ticker m s.mpoe [17:17]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063679 / 0.00064677 / 0.00066098 (1409926 shares, 911.90 BTC), 7D: 0.0006153 / 0.00065584 / 0.0007 (18889176 shares, 12,388.36 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.00066251 / 0.0007 (73333145 shares, 48,584.03 BTC) [17:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063895 = 2.7609 BTC [-] [17:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2263 @ 0.00063888 = 1.4458 BTC [-] [17:18]
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DeadWeasel bouncy bitcoin. a lot of hungry mouths were waiting for that drop. [17:42]
DeadWeasel ate it up [17:42]
DeadWeasel ;;slap deadweasel [17:44]
* gribble slaps deadweasel with a coagulated case [17:44]
DeadWeasel ;;ticker [17:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 25.86297, Best ask: 25.89910, Bid-ask spread: 0.03613, Last trade: 25.86297, 24 hour volume: 147093.07547354, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.00466 [17:44]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L3KU5eiEBo [17:44]
DeadWeasel ;;bc,24hprc [17:44]
mircea_popescu his mudder was a modder! [17:44]
gribble 24.96 [17:44]
DeadWeasel mircea_popescu: at work, no videos. already use webIRC to get around blocks. [17:45]
mircea_popescu seinfeld. [17:45]
DeadWeasel still having fun on SA i hope? [17:45]
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kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [17:46]
gribble Current Blocks: 221145 | Current Difficulty: 3275464.586565617 | Next Difficulty At Block: 221759 | Next Difficulty In: 614 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 15 hours, 11 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3474257.66998 | Estimated Percent Change: 6.06916 [17:46]
kakobrekla BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st; [17:47]
kakobrekla Confirmed bets: [17:47]
kakobrekla 99 [17:47]
kakobrekla 1 moar! [17:47]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18313.html [17:47]
mircea_popescu enjoy lol [17:47]
DeadWeasel kakobrekla: you mine? [17:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1093 @ 0.00063659 = 0.6958 BTC [-] [17:47]
kakobrekla ya a fpga is running somewhere in the house [17:47]
kakobrekla rest is gone [17:47]
DeadWeasel i'll take that as a yes, mircea_popescu [17:48]
DeadWeasel what do you make with your FPGA? [17:48]
kakobrekla noise [17:48]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/x/v5/oRgSUuC/img9233.jpg [17:49]
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DeadWeasel well, at least you're producing [17:50]
kakobrekla i keep it as a joke. [17:50]
kakobrekla might as well go solo. [17:51]
kakobrekla with that 260mhash [17:51]
DeadWeasel one day you might get a block,. [17:51]
DeadWeasel I get 171 with a ati 6770, but it's not worth it. [17:52]
kakobrekla just 171? [17:52]
kakobrekla i got 250 from 5770 [17:52]
kakobrekla back in the day [17:52]
jcpham feel free to stalk my wasting of electric: http://mining.three41.net/ [17:52]
DeadWeasel 5770s are way betta [17:52]
DeadWeasel 6770s just have a higher number. [17:52]
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kakobrekla hehe [17:52]
jcpham passive 7870's sound elite to me [17:53]
jcpham a rig box full of passive cooled gpus [17:53]
kakobrekla i had a passive nvidia running at 105 degrees C for years [17:53]
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kakobrekla bitdaytrade : Today at 12:09:28 PM : Go troll somewhere else. I'm working hard to raise the necessary funds. Very positive news are on the horizon. [17:57]
kakobrekla rofl. [17:57]
mircea_popescu ugm [17:59]
* Received a CTCP VERSION from alexut [17:59]
mircea_popescu you're not serious are you !? [17:59]
* Received a CTCP USERINFO from alexut [18:00]
kakobrekla i am, alberto isnt. [18:00]
mircea_popescu lol [18:00]
mircea_popescu it's funny how scammers always have very positive news on the horison [18:02]
kakobrekla >>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140366.msg1527172#msg1527172 [18:02]
mircea_popescu sorta like gambling addicts/failed acresses [18:02]
kakobrekla poor eskimo, would hurt too much to write "you area right", he writes "you are not wrong" [18:02]
mircea_popescu hahaha good1 [18:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064484 = 2.7864 BTC [+] [18:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6171 @ 0.00064504 = 3.9805 BTC [+] [18:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5149 @ 0.00065494 = 3.3723 BTC [+] [18:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10409 @ 0.00065622 = 6.8306 BTC [+] [18:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 11 @ 0.006 = 0.066 BTC [-] [18:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3228 @ 0.00063659 = 2.0549 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8372 @ 0.00063654 = 5.3291 BTC [-] [18:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3891 @ 0.00065622 = 2.5534 BTC [+] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065629 = 2.8358 BTC [+] [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49 @ 0.0006563 = 0.0322 BTC [+] [18:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 9 @ 0.99 = 8.91 BTC [+] [18:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1 = 2 BTC [+] [18:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00065609 = 2.835 BTC [-] [18:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2929 @ 0.0006563 = 1.9223 BTC [+] [18:32]
mircea_popescu http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/132330.html [18:42]
mircea_popescu apparently llewellyn didn't much care for this week's reality tv [18:42]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.3399 BTC [+] [18:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063676 = 2.7514 BTC [-] [18:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2629 @ 0.00063654 = 1.6735 BTC [-] [18:54]
Bugpowder fuck this shit [18:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.42000, Best ask: 26.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 26.40901, 24 hour volume: 147397.72847532, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.65000, 24 hour vwap: 25.02041 [18:55]
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mod6 Bugpowder: what up? [18:58]
Bugpowder btc [19:03]
Garr255_Lappy hey all. you can now invest in Cognitive with LTC :) https://www.litecoinglobal.com/security/COGNITIVE-PT [19:07]
kakobrekla and by invest you mean lose money with? [19:09]
mircea_popescu !ticker cognitive-pt [19:13]
assbot Your actions are useless. [19:13]
mircea_popescu mkay [19:13]
DeadWeasel ;;slap Garr255_Lappy [19:18]
* gribble slaps Garr255_Lappy with a guileful earth [19:18]
Garr255_Lappy kakobrekla, let me know when mining stock, not bonds, becomes unprofitable. [19:19]
kakobrekla im letting you know now. [19:19]
Garr255_Lappy back up your words with math please [19:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064002 = 2.7655 BTC [+] [19:20]
kakobrekla wheres that bug chart [19:20]
mjr__ is there a crossed quote on mpoe? [19:22]
mircea_popescu 0.00064089 4`321 [19:31]
mircea_popescu 4`321 0.00063996 [19:31]
mircea_popescu neh ? [19:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063996 = 2.7653 BTC [-] [19:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2879 @ 0.00063967 = 1.8416 BTC [-] [19:31]
mircea_popescu Garr255_Lappy you got a graph of cognitive price somewhere ? [19:32]
Garr255_Lappy mircea_popescu yes, https://btct.co/security/COGNITIVE [19:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00063967 = 4.6696 BTC [-] [19:33]
mircea_popescu how do i make that show something like a year ? [19:33]
mircea_popescu (can i?) [19:34]
DeadWeasel DeaDTerra: nice, glad to hear it [19:34]
ThickAsThieves yeeuh [19:35]
kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=R5mMRiiCwak [19:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064037 = 2.767 BTC [+] [19:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064046 = 2.7674 BTC [+] [19:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2158 @ 0.00064052 = 1.3822 BTC [+] [19:41]
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leflor mircea_popescu warren buffet is going to buy mpex for 1 billion dollars [19:44]
mircea_popescu i don't think so. [19:44]
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thestringpuller haha [19:45]
thestringpuller ;;asks 27 [19:45]
gribble There are currently 13428.315 bitcoins offered at or under 27.0 USD, worth 360232.300725 USD in total. [19:45]
thestringpuller ;;asks 30 [19:45]
gribble There are currently 34633.742 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 974142.854562 USD in total. [19:45]
thestringpuller mining gold is only profitable for so long [19:46]
thestringpuller so there will be much hate to go around [19:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0181 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.018 = 1.8 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 14 @ 0.0154 = 0.2156 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 200 @ 0.0153 = 3.06 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 150 @ 0.0152 = 2.28 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 43 @ 0.0152 = 0.6536 BTC [-] [19:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [-] [19:54]
kakobrekla heres some milk for mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143962.0 [19:54]
mircea_popescu i r get milk ? [19:55]
mircea_popescu i shou;d prolly link that from mpex main page just for lulz. [19:55]
kakobrekla bitcoin is self destructive. [19:55]
kakobrekla it says. [19:56]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla bitcoin is backed by lulz and drama! [19:56]
kakobrekla no wonder price is so high. [19:56]
mircea_popescu and we all know those self feed and replicate [19:56]
mircea_popescu so it can only go the way of the butt : upupup [19:56]
kakobrekla is never to high to buy and never too low to sell [19:57]
mircea_popescu it's never too tight and never too deep [19:57]
kakobrekla it can be too big. [19:58]
mircea_popescu i dunno, i don't have the full range of sensual experiences. [19:58]
kakobrekla well, thats what she said. [19:58]
jurov no matter how deep, no matter how hiiiigh [19:58]
jurov nono nononono nonono limiiit [19:58]
mod6 they're beating up on MPEx in bitcoin-otc... [20:05]
mod6 more nonsense about how "bad" teh website is lol [20:05]
mod6 (10:04) < FonziScheme> we're talking about the website, mod6. get over it [20:07]
mod6 (10:05) <+mod6> hahaha [20:07]
mircea_popescu lolk [20:08]
mircea_popescu newfags in #bitcoin-newfags having opinions and shit. [20:08]
mod6 these dumbshits sit in there and talk all kinds of trash. at some point I usually jump in and tell 'em what idiots they are. [20:08]
mod6 this is one of those moments [20:09]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust fonzischeme [20:09]
gribble Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user fonzischeme: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=fonzischeme [20:09]
mircea_popescu totally. [20:09]
mod6 (10:05) < FonziScheme> but if you want to discuss how crappy the CLI scripty is, we can do that [20:09]
mod6 (10:06) <+mod6> you want to dog on my code, feel free. [20:10]
mod6 (10:06) <+mod6> asswipe [20:10]
mod6 (10:06) < FonziScheme> wow. simma down. [20:10]
mod6 (10:06) < FonziScheme> panties, meet bunch. [20:10]
mod6 (10:07) <+mod6> then stop talking shit about stuff you don't understand FonziScheme [20:10]
mod6 (10:07) < FonziScheme> stop claiming no one understands it, mod5 [20:10]
pigeons fonzischeme may be under fbastage or reliablesource [20:10]
pigeons he's been on my ignore for a year [20:10]
mod6 ahh, he's mildly retarded [20:10]
mircea_popescu wait. [20:10]
mircea_popescu 20450 fbastage 18 mircea_popescu 2013-02-11 17:33:47 -2 spammer and megalomaniac. [20:11]
mircea_popescu this dude ? [20:11]
pigeons yes same guy [20:11]
mircea_popescu fucking hell all these people talking about me that i don;t even know. [20:11]
mod6 well, that doesn't shock me in the least then. he has an axe to grind. [20:11]
mircea_popescu at least ver WANTS to be a celebrity. [20:11]
mod6 they think they can just do 2minutes hate everyday and I wont call 'em out [20:13]
mod6 fuck that shit [20:13]
mircea_popescu mr mod6enstein [20:14]
mod6 (10:01) <+Scrat> neofutur: i dont care about validation either but MPOE is the worst website ive seen since geocities [20:14]
mod6 (10:04) <+mod6> What MPEx is, is not a website. I'm not sure why people fail to understand that. It doesn't even really need a damn website. [20:14]
mod6 (10:04) <+mod6> lol [20:14]
mod6 mircea_popescu: ;) [20:14]
mircea_popescu any connection between these fine folks and the douches embroiled in the "highest valued currency" wiki revert war ? [20:14]
mod6 I think there might be. [20:15]
mod6 I don't follow in there quite close enough these days. [20:15]
mircea_popescu well since mpoe-pr is trolling stripper forums i kinda lost track of reddit [20:15]
mod6 haha [20:15]
mircea_popescu tho in honesty is was a productive move. more lol. [20:16]
mod6 i bet that is moar lulz [20:16]
mircea_popescu anyway, who's controlled-evaporating otc these days ? [20:16]
mircea_popescu since rg's unfortunate irl job and everything [20:17]
mod6 seriously, its a bunch of dudes who even have neg ratings as oppers. [20:17]
mircea_popescu o.0 [20:17]
mircea_popescu i guess it successfully evaporated. [20:18]
mod6 one day last week (I forget who it was for now) there was someone op'd and I was like "WAH HOW DID DA SCAMMERZ GET OPZ?!" [20:18]
mircea_popescu nanotube ^ [20:19]
mircea_popescu you about ready to purge the bitcoin-otc oplist or give it moar time ? [20:19]
mod6 but... i guess they need some monitoring in there and there isnt a ton of trusted people left to do the job. [20:19]
mod6 521 active nicks in the channel, so that's up about 100 [20:20]
mod6 which is good. but man, there are some real dumbasses who think they run that show. [20:21]
mircea_popescu i don't even remember what it used to be last year. [20:21]
mircea_popescu 396, 693, 936, something [20:21]
imsaguy neg ratings aren't always a bad thing. neg ratings from an idiot source really aren't neg ratings. [20:22]
mod6 when I seem to check every now and then it seems to typically hover around 400-450 [20:22]
mircea_popescu that's true. [20:22]
imsaguy the whole point of otc is that you go by your web of trust [20:22]
imsaguy not some stupid sum number [20:22]
mod6 imsaguy: I'm with you there. I need to find who I was talking about... the guy srsly looked like he had some scammer ratings. [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2594 @ 0.00063967 = 1.6593 BTC [-] [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063655 = 2.7505 BTC [-] [20:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6085 @ 0.00063654 = 3.8733 BTC [-] [20:23]
imsaguy ;;getrating imsaguy [20:23]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User imsaguy, rated since Tue Aug 2 16:24:18 2011. Cumulative rating 318, from 132 total ratings. Received ratings: 124 positive, 8 negative. Sent ratings: 124 positive, 39 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=imsaguy [20:23]
imsaguy 8 negatives [20:23]
imsaguy most are trolls [20:23]
imsaguy half weren't active more than a week [20:23]
mod6 *nod* [20:23]
mircea_popescu imsaguy who was at some point negative total so the rule about rating with negative had to be reverted ? [20:24]
imsaguy most were because people don't/didn't understand how ratings work [20:24]
kakobrekla o you also have a +10 from PH [20:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00063671 = 2.7512 BTC [+] [20:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6242 @ 0.00063654 = 3.9733 BTC [-] [20:24]
imsaguy kakobrekla: exactly, it all depends on who you trust, not hte absolute [20:24]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla im sure he has pirate + too, it's how scamming works, you suck up to people. [20:24]
imsaguy mircea_popescu: me? no. [20:25]
mircea_popescu he didn't rate you !? [20:25]
imsaguy ;;gettrust imsaguy pirateat40 [20:25]
gribble Trust relationship from user imsaguy to user pirateat40: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 6 via 33 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=imsaguy&dest=pirateat40 [20:25]
mircea_popescu the other way around silly. [20:25]
imsaguy thats why I asked. [20:25]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure pirate rated everyone [20:25]
imsaguy I'm surprised my L2 to pirate is still positive [20:25]
mod6 it seriosly could have been Anduck i'm talking about [20:25]
imsaguy ;;getrating pirateat40 [20:25]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User pirateat40, rated since Mon Aug 1 14:18:45 2011. Cumulative rating -125, from 89 total ratings. Received ratings: 55 positive, 34 negative. Sent ratings: 65 positive, 1 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=pirateat40 [20:25]
mod6 *seriously [20:26]
kakobrekla rating whores are a problem. [20:26]
imsaguy kakobrekla, I used to be one. [20:26]
pigeons mod6: probably starsoccer [20:26]
imsaguy The first few negatives take care of that though. [20:26]
mircea_popescu haha Keefe has one too [20:26]
imsaguy ;;getrating keefe [20:26]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User Keefe, rated since Mon Nov 8 10:37:04 2010. Cumulative rating 606, from 212 total ratings. Received ratings: 212 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 221 positive, 7 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Keefe [20:26]
mod6 pigeons: AHHH yeah [20:26]
mod6 thats who it was. [20:26]
mod6 im like WTF is this guy doing with ops. [20:27]
pigeons starsoccer doesn't know that he's a scammer [20:27]
mircea_popescu mod6 anduck was the guy coming here ocasionally asking me like why im trusted and shit no ? [20:27]
mod6 yeah. [20:27]
mircea_popescu seemed harmless kid rly. [20:27]
mod6 he's just a random guy with 1 bad rating... might be somewhat superficial. [20:27]
mod6 yeah [20:27]
imsaguy many of the people with ops in there atm aren't on the access list [20:27]
imsaguy like me for example [20:27]
imsaguy so we're faking [20:27]
mircea_popescu how does that work ? [20:27]
imsaguy well, if I leave and come back, I won't have ops from chanserv [20:28]
imsaguy I have to ask another op [20:28]
kakobrekla you just do /nick @imsaguy [20:28]
imsaguy if nanotube leaves and comes back, chanserv can/will give him ops [20:28]
mircea_popescu o o i see what you mean [20:28]
imsaguy kakobrekla, not if you're not on the access list [20:28]
kakobrekla i kid i kid, that doesnt work even. [20:28]
mod6 oh so someone just does like /op imsaguy [20:28]
imsaguy /op $nick does ;) [20:28]
imsaguy mod6, exactly [20:28]
mod6 instead of telling ChanServ to hook you up [20:28]
mod6 got it. [20:28]
imsaguy I'm too emotional with the bans sometimes [20:29]
imsaguy so its good I'm not on the list [20:29]
imsaguy ban first, ask questions never [20:29]
mod6 haha [20:29]
mircea_popescu the entire banningthing is nonsense. [20:29]
imsaguy perhaps [20:29]
imsaguy but it does feel good [20:29]
imsaguy :-x [20:29]
mircea_popescu ya well. [20:29]
mircea_popescu this chan is noban, it works fine. my chan is +m, works fine [20:29]
mircea_popescu the stuff in between tho, with the banning... not so fine. [20:30]
mod6 it does get the point across to trolls with limited reach -- for everything else there's SupaDupa [20:30]
imsaguy mod6, we fixed that though [20:30]
imsaguy just takes persistance [20:30]
mircea_popescu mod6 so gives idiot kids an incentive to read up on supaduping [20:30]
mod6 oh! sweet. [20:30]
mircea_popescu imsaguy i thought freenode finally got their shit together ? [20:30]
imsaguy well, we're talking two different things [20:30]
imsaguy he was making tons of fake otc accounts [20:30]
mircea_popescu a [20:30]
imsaguy I would catch those almost as quickly as he made them [20:31]
imsaguy freenode and the assbot were something else [20:31]
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imsaguy not this assbot [20:31]
imsaguy the ass script [20:31]
mircea_popescu goatse [20:31]
imsaguy aye [20:31]
mod6 haha [20:31]
mircea_popescu poor assbot [20:31]
mircea_popescu he's the assets assistant! [20:31]
assbot wanna goatse? [20:31]
* imsaguy kicks assbot [20:31]
assbot hey im sensitive. [20:31]
imsaguy no mod/ban channels work [20:31]
imsaguy #bitcoin-mining has been [20:32]
imsaguy then again, its mainly dead these days [20:32]
mircea_popescu well since luke sold his btc for 25 [20:32]
mircea_popescu no point in it anymore [20:32]
imsaguy it was back when people were trying to figure out gpumining [20:32]
mircea_popescu speaking of which [20:32]
imsaguy now that the settings are pretty tried and true and almost obsolete [20:32]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [20:32]
gribble Time since last block: 12 minutes and 42 seconds [20:32]
mircea_popescu how do we know avalons/asicminers aren't premining a huge chain! [20:33]
imsaguy because they're just mining [20:33]
imsaguy avalon is lost in space [20:33]
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pigeons cause it would work out better for them to just mine honestly [20:33]
* x0xMaximus_ is now known as x0xMaximus [20:33]
mircea_popescu ya but never underestimate. [20:34]
mircea_popescu seems suspicious as all hell, weeks after everyonedelivered network is still humming at 25. [20:34]
imsaguy huh? [20:34]
imsaguy ;;diffchange [20:34]
gribble Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 6.19499 % based on data since last change | 10.21154 % based on data for last three days [20:34]
pigeons they just turned em up today really [20:34]
imsaguy yesterday [20:34]
imsaguy 12TH is only like 50% of current network [20:35]
imsaguy which means they only have 33% of combined [20:35]
mircea_popescu that guy with the 1th was there since like the 12th neh ? [20:35]
mircea_popescu at btcguild [20:35]
imsaguy assuming full throttle [20:35]
imsaguy its up and down [20:35]
imsaguy probably dealing with heat and internet connection issues [20:35]
mircea_popescu ya. th mining requires some stuff other than power plug. [20:36]
imsaguy especially on older hardwear like theirs [20:36]
imsaguy ware* [20:36]
mircea_popescu the one thing that becomes interesting now is of course useful life. [20:36]
mircea_popescu if a set mines at 12th on average for 500 hours and then pops [20:36]
imsaguy it'll be interesting to see where things settle [20:36]
mircea_popescu well.... that's not gonna be much [20:36]
imsaguy ;;genrate 12000000 [20:37]
gribble The expected generation output, at 12000000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 3275464.58657, is 1842.44953278 BTC per day and 76.7687305327 BTC per hour. [20:37]
mircea_popescu if they spike us up and then their gear dies early in a recalc cycle it'll be nasty. [20:37]
imsaguy lol [20:37]
imsaguy ;;calc 500/24*1842.44953278 [20:37]
gribble 38384.3652662 [20:37]
imsaguy 500 hours would be fine. [20:37]
mircea_popescu not for the network tho. [20:37]
imsaguy they only spent 20000 for it [20:37]
mircea_popescu we'll be stuck with 25gh doing 5mn blocks [20:38]
imsaguy avalon is coming [20:38]
imsaguy bfl is coming [20:38]
imsaguy it wouldn't be for too long that we'd be 'stuck' [20:38]
imsaguy and right now, its only 1th anyway [20:38]
mircea_popescu well, a coupla weeks [20:38]
imsaguy not a real big deal [20:38]
mircea_popescu enough for everyone to scream bloody murder [20:38]
imsaguy gotta have something to bitch about [20:38]
imsaguy if not that, it'd be something else. [20:38]
mircea_popescu definitely. [20:38]
mod6 heh [20:39]
imsaguy don't even try to fool yourself :p [20:39]
imsaguy ok, its time to go stick my head in a meat grinder. [20:39]
imsaguy enjoy the rest of your day/evening. [20:39]
mircea_popescu upload vids. [20:39]
mod6 c-ya imsaguy [20:39]
kakobrekla better be a live stream [20:39]
kakobrekla or you'll get shit. [20:39]
mircea_popescu scamming meat grinder vid. [20:40]
imsaguy well you know, I am pirateat40 [20:41]
* imsaguy derps [20:41]
mod6 dude, I think that maybe you were the first person that sold me BTC. [20:41]
mod6 so for that, I thank you :) [20:41]
imsaguy haha, I broke a lot of cherries back in the day [20:42]
mircea_popescu who's that forum kid that keeps reporting on like, what pirate did in his hood [20:42]
imsaguy bcb [20:42]
Diablo-D3 pirate never existed [20:42]
imsaguy I gotta jet, I'm late [20:42]
mircea_popescu a right [20:42]
mircea_popescu girl usually notes him down as pcp [20:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.031 BTC [-] [20:42]
mod6 haha [20:42]
mod6 he actually one a 10 BTC bet on over 26 USD by Noon EST today. [20:43]
mircea_popescu then a while back i referred to someone by her byname instead of their handle [20:43]
mod6 *won [20:43]
mircea_popescu so i threw a shitfit [20:43]
mircea_popescu now she's adding * to the "not his real handle" nicks [20:43]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 5 @ 0.00066 = 0.0033 BTC [-] [20:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 4 @ 0.006 = 0.024 BTC [-] [20:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1011 BTC [-] [20:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.332 BTC [-] [20:46]
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mjr_ ugh, reddit is bumming me out [20:46]
mod6 just hang on irc then, less hassle? [20:47]
mjr_ true [20:47]
mjr_ i mean, so dumb though [20:47]
mjr_ don't understand FX Risk [20:47]
mjr_ forward contracts [20:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 49 @ 0.01 = 0.49 BTC [+] [20:47]
mod6 yeah, this stuff is pretty far beyond most people who use the internet on a daily basis. [20:47]
mircea_popescu why would they ? [20:47]
mjr_ "if the price of bitcoins doubles, the price of S.DICE halves" [20:47]
mircea_popescu if you made a risk you didn't make that risk. [20:47]
mircea_popescu also, business. [20:47]
mjr_ i'm like OH that is why every single stock on NYSE moves the same direction at the same time [20:48]
mircea_popescu lol [20:48]
mjr_ yes, but you get forward contracts or options to guarantee and hedge [20:48]
mircea_popescu actually mjr_, these days it pretty much does [20:48]
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mjr_ well, not for me at least [20:48]
mircea_popescu bernanke helicopters a trillion funbux into "economy" [20:48]
mircea_popescu all pres howls about how "record new index soars!!11" [20:48]
mjr_ i'm up 6 or 7% on S.DICE [20:48]
mjr_ and up 25% on BTC [20:49]
mjr_ so my total gain when measured in dollars is a combo of the two effects [20:49]
mircea_popescu you got in late, ipo people are up like whatever, 80% on s.dice and 300% on btc [20:49]
mjr_ i'm not saying there is NO correlation [20:49]
mjr_ yeah of course [20:49]
mircea_popescu hum interesting correlation! [20:49]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 6.5/25 [20:49]
gribble 0.26 [20:50]
mjr_ but still...these returns are great and that's before i have ever even received dividends [20:50]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 8/30.0 [20:50]
gribble 0.266666666667 [20:50]
mircea_popescu dude [20:50]
mircea_popescu DUDE! [20:50]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder are you copying this ? [20:50]
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mircea_popescu how long you been in mjr_ ? [20:50]
mircea_popescu ;;calc .66 / 26 [20:51]
mjr_ beginning of feb [20:51]
gribble 0.0253846153846 [20:51]
Bugpowder wut? [20:51]
mircea_popescu so 5 months and 2 weeks converges to like 0.02! [20:51]
pigeons paper profits [20:51]
mircea_popescu this is totally ponzi. [20:51]
mircea_popescu there is just no way. [20:51]
mjr_ 0.0057 is what i got S.DICE for [20:51]
mircea_popescu as smooth as 16yo bikini wax [20:51]
mjr_ ;;ticker [20:52]
Bugpowder .0034 [20:52]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.33672, Best ask: 26.36438, Bid-ask spread: 0.02766, Last trade: 26.30110, 24 hour volume: 143473.69366734, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.67000, 24 hour vwap: 25.03657 [20:52]
Bugpowder http://imgur.com/a/EsExY [20:52]
mjr_ yeah, if only i had gotten in then [20:52]
Bugpowder It was up to 4x till last night's bounce :( [20:52]
mjr_ lol [20:52]
mjr_ yeah [20:52]
mjr_ but that position is up...i got the bitcoins on average for 21.22 so that position is up [20:53]
mjr_ so i am up in total by the combination of the two [20:53]
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mjr_ also...how can people retroactively go back and make their bets smaller because bitcoins are worth more now? [20:53]
mircea_popescu mjr_ what's your exit point ? or didn't establuish in advance ? [20:53]
mjr_ revenue is revenue [20:53]
mjr_ buy and hold [20:53]
mircea_popescu aha [20:53]
mircea_popescu well, there's this theory that people will bet less if btc are worth more. [20:54]
mjr_ yes, that is true [20:54]
mjr_ over the long run [20:54]
mircea_popescu cause well... gamblers are rational people and everything [20:54]
mircea_popescu i can totally see it. [20:54]
mjr_ but they already bet and that is already his revenue [20:54]
mjr_ so my tiny fraction of that revenue is already mine in dividends [20:54]
mircea_popescu yes, for the current month. but past months are water under the bridge far as you're concerned [20:54]
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mjr_ they can't change that now [20:54]
mjr_ yes [20:55]
mjr_ true [20:55]
mjr_ my point is that for february [20:55]
mod6 upwards and onwards though! [20:55]
mjr_ i hope to get 3% on my position [20:55]
mjr_ i am happy with that [20:55]
mircea_popescu well if you want to look art it this way, i was making bets on diff this year as far back as aug/sept 2012 [20:55]
mjr_ as opposed to just taking the ride on btc, i am basically doubling down my bet [20:55]
mjr_ nice [20:55]
mircea_popescu 100 btc bet then worth like 700 or w/e, 200 btc won now worth like 5k ? [20:55]
mjr_ they pay off well? [20:55]
mircea_popescu yes. [20:56]
mjr_ i also hold MPOE [20:56]
mjr_ which is down from where i bought it [20:56]
mjr_ even though btc is up [20:56]
mircea_popescu people would take things like "diff will be under 50mn" at even money etc. [20:56]
mjr_ again, the two are not the same [20:56]
mjr_ lol [20:56]
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mircea_popescu remember, back in aug and even sept peoplethought bfl delivers 1st batch in oct [20:56]
mjr_ yeah [20:57]
mircea_popescu and by "thought" i mean swore their babies on [20:57]
mod6 yeah. there were massive bets and everything iirc. [20:57]
mjr_ i am not at all interested in mining hardware speculation, if they deliver they deliver [20:57]
mircea_popescu i was mostly into it to hedge [20:57]
mircea_popescu which worked out ok. [20:57]
mjr_ yeah smart move [20:57]
TomServo You getting a Dell? [20:57]
mod6 haha [20:57]
mircea_popescu hm ? [20:58]
* TomServo is retarded. Please ignore. [20:58]
mjr_ so my point is that the revenue they bring in and the dividends they pay is way more likely to change the share price than the price of btc at the moment [20:58]
mod6 its a joke from the Dell commericals [20:58]
mircea_popescu mjr_ right. [20:58]
mjr_ dell is being taken private [20:58]
mircea_popescu because it sucks ? [20:58]
mjr_ btc/usd could affect that but that remains to be seen [20:58]
mjr_ lol i think so [20:58]
mircea_popescu i never quite understood this taking private business. [20:59]
mjr_ buying back all its shares [20:59]
mircea_popescu i know what it means [20:59]
mjr_ i know [20:59]
mircea_popescu i never understood the sense of it. [20:59]
mjr_ oh, i love the idea [20:59]
mircea_popescu give me an example of a corp where it worked. [20:59]
mod6 they must have some awful shit on the books, or they couldn't get it to an attractive price for a buyer, otherwise why take it private? [20:59]
mjr_ no more worrying about what analysts have to say [20:59]
mjr_ you can think long term [21:00]
mircea_popescu mod6 i suspect they have some wicked tax avoidance idea they'll tery [21:00]
mjr_ without worrying about pissing people off every quarter [21:00]
mjr_ public companies divorce the interest of the company from the interest of the owner [21:00]
mircea_popescu not if they're well managed. [21:00]
mjr_ ie. it may be best to invest ahead of the growth curve for a while, take a loss, for future gain [21:00]
mod6 mircea_popescu: could be. lot of companies upped their dividened payments before the end of '12 to front-run the up coming tax hikes. [21:01]
mircea_popescu mod6 yah. [21:01]
mjr_ but convincing joe six pack that you know best about servers or the tech market is too tough [21:01]
mircea_popescu boy that disaster is gonna smart. [21:01]
mjr_ they want to see pretty green arrows [21:01]
mircea_popescu mjr_ it's not like joe six pack has sotck money [21:01]
mjr_ hehehe [21:01]
mjr_ good point [21:01]
mjr_ maybe 401k [21:01]
mircea_popescu but self directed ? [21:02]
mjr_ maybe [21:02]
mjr_ i know a lot who do [21:02]
mjr_ but then again it is nyc [21:02]
mircea_popescu negligible of total. [21:02]
mjr_ even so [21:02]
mjr_ how many times have i seen a company BEAT earnings and STILL get smoked [21:02]
mircea_popescu lol actually [21:02]
mjr_ lame [21:03]
mircea_popescu netflix beat earnings and it went up 908534905034% [21:03]
mjr_ to try to cater to a fickle market [21:03]
mjr_ yes [21:03]
mjr_ but aapl beat [21:03]
mjr_ and went down like $50 [21:03]
mjr_ i personally wouldn't bet on direction [21:03]
mircea_popescu ya well, netflix didn't have every hipster tard on their wagon [21:03]
mjr_ get a straddle and just play the volatility [21:03]
mircea_popescu much to their benefit. [21:03]
mjr_ still though, i sold a record # of widgets...ok you suck, we don't want your stock [21:04]
mjr_ but i made more money than you expected [21:04]
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mjr_ i don't care, sell sell sell [21:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2514 @ 0.000636 = 1.5989 BTC [-] [21:04]
iz netflix also secured big exclusive contracts with 2 major studios in the future [21:04]
mircea_popescu mjr_ the key is if they find a new jobs. they don't, they're dead. [21:04]
mjr_ irrational markets, focused on short term [21:04]
mod6 AMZN beat (barely iirc) and it went up a bunch too -- until the following week where exuberance dropped. I think traders were spooked by the -1.0% GDP print... and any good earnings news was like "heaven sent" [21:04]
mjr_ yeah...that is my point, a private company doesn't worry about spooking anybody [21:05]
mircea_popescu iz that's a good point yes [21:05]
mjr_ you do what you want [21:05]
iz there's more data there, than just the earnings [21:05]
mjr_ what you think is best [21:05]
mircea_popescu prolly larger impact than the few cents [21:05]
iz so if it seems "irrational", maybe it's just that you haven't seen all the data everyone else has [21:05]
mjr_ wall street is like a bunch of whiny spoiled children [21:05]
mircea_popescu iz i was using that example deliberately :) [21:05]
mjr_ yeah...the prop traders i see...they are super inside [21:05]
iz well, i'm glad i could help illustate your point there then :D [21:06]
mjr_ they are scalping and playing around, they have no idea of fundamentals [21:06]
mjr_ they are riding the emotions of others [21:06]
mjr_ to make a penny or two [21:06]
mjr_ just like an algorithm [21:06]
mjr_ which doesn't care about any of that [21:06]
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mjr_ i think everyone gives these people WAY too much credit [21:06]
mjr_ herd mentality [21:07]
mjr_ in fact, some of them just buy and sell at the same price just to make liquidity rebates [21:07]
mjr_ they could literally not care less about what the company does [21:08]
mjr_ institutional investors are different [21:08]
mjr_ they are a lot smarter, but still, driven by emotion to some degree [21:08]
mircea_popescu im not sure i dig this entire reason/emotion debate. [21:11]
mircea_popescu reason and emotion use the same circuitry but different heuristics is all [21:11]
mircea_popescu not really as fundamentally different as people paint em [21:11]
mjr_ eh [21:13]
mjr_ just saying [21:13]
mjr_ selling because you see red is dumb [21:13]
mjr_ and i see a lot of people do that [21:14]
mjr_ it is counter to normal [21:14]
mjr_ when many are selling you should buy [21:14]
mircea_popescu well, it's that intelligent markets theory or w/e [21:14]
mjr_ and when many are buying you should sell [21:14]
mircea_popescu advisors are actually telling people like stanford to sell when price goes down, and the more it goes down the more to sell [21:14]
mjr_ i have seen people call up to check a position [21:14]
mircea_popescu then rebuy when it's back up [21:14]
mjr_ and i say you want me to flatten it? [21:14]
mircea_popescu and they get paid $$$ for this [21:14]
mjr_ that is my point [21:15]
mjr_ the people will say no...don't sell [21:15]
mjr_ they wait till they lose their profit and are down and then they sell [21:15]
mjr_ because you want to own something that is profitable and you don't want to own something that is down [21:15]
mjr_ exactly opposite of what you should do [21:15]
mjr_ which is buy low sell high [21:15]
mjr_ i'm down 4% on MPOE, i am going to double my position [21:16]
mircea_popescu ya well, you don't know if it ever recovers is their idea [21:16]
mjr_ yeah [21:16]
mircea_popescu i mean... sure, i made money long on LEH [21:16]
mircea_popescu but... most people'd have been ill advised to buy it [21:16]
mjr_ but what they end up doing is buying at the top of the hill and selling at the bottom [21:17]
mircea_popescu depends. some things actually go out. that's why i picked leh. [21:17]
mjr_ cuz they get scared [21:17]
mjr_ yeah true [21:17]
mircea_popescu and at that time, citi and boa seemed primed for the same fate iirc. [21:17]
mjr_ they did [21:17]
mjr_ even goldman had rumors of failure [21:17]
mircea_popescu and jpm [21:17]
mjr_ yep [21:17]
mircea_popescu which was funny, at the time [21:17]
mjr_ jpm was way closer [21:17]
mjr_ i'm actually reading "too big to fail" right now [21:18]
mircea_popescu cause "everyone" knew if it comes to it fed is going to pick jpm to save [21:18]
mircea_popescu if all banks default or something. [21:18]
mjr_ yeah [21:18]
mjr_ bailout was a very dirty word back then [21:18]
mjr_ should still be IMO [21:18]
mjr_ bankers are scumbags [21:18]
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mjr_ for the most part, no offense to any bankers [21:19]
* mircea_popescu goes all nostalgic checks out prices for freddie and fannie [21:19]
mjr_ but seriously, you get the upside, we get the downside [21:19]
mjr_ great work if you can get it [21:19]
mircea_popescu both .3 [21:20]
mircea_popescu heh. [21:20]
mjr_ hehehe, it is fun trying to front run people :) [21:21]
mjr_ love jumping in front of a wall [21:22]
mjr_ by the way, bitfloor is my new favorite exchange [21:22]
mjr_ i love it [21:22]
mircea_popescu let me save that in my directory. [21:23]
mjr_ i got my money in there in a half hour with no ID, and i think a $2 fee [21:25]
DeadWeasel nice, i just reg'd last night. didn't have time to explore. [21:26]
mjr_ the bank of america option is the way to go [21:26]
mjr_ if you have one by you [21:26]
DeadWeasel i do. [21:26]
mjr_ literally half hour [21:26]
DeadWeasel but they are open when I am at work. [21:26]
mjr_ and roman who runs it emailed me when i asked how long within 5 min [21:26]
DeadWeasel close at 4 assholes [21:26]
mjr_ lol yeah [21:26]
mjr_ bankers hours [21:26]
DeadWeasel shithead hours [21:26]
mjr_ yeah [21:27]
mjr_ also...nice big spreads [21:27]
mjr_ i'm just market making for fun right now [21:27]
DeadWeasel yeah, i will look more tonight. [21:27]
mjr_ think it's like a .35 spread [21:27]
DeadWeasel good security? safe to keep btc there? [21:27]
DeadWeasel you know, a working amount? [21:27]
mjr_ don't know [21:27]
mircea_popescu DeadWeasel they had a breach and currently owe the customerbase btc [21:27]
mjr_ yes [21:28]
DeadWeasel oh my [21:28]
mircea_popescu so, i wouldn't keep btc there. but if you're ok with the risk, hey. [21:28]
DeadWeasel well, i'll just watch for now, thanks mircea_popescu [21:28]
mjr_ yeah, i don't know if i will leave btc overnight [21:28]
mjr_ but, the guy is trying to pay back at least [21:28]
mjr_ and i think he has started [21:28]
DeadWeasel i mean, Gox got hit hard. [21:28]
DeadWeasel but this is way after that [21:28]
mjr_ yeah [21:28]
DeadWeasel when was bitfloor? [21:28]
mircea_popescu http://gizmodo.com/5940507/bitcoin-exchange-bitfloor-suspends-operations-following-250k-hacker-heist [21:29]
mjr_ i mean, for me...i can drop off cash on the corner, have it in the account in a half hour, get PAID to trade (liquidity rebates) and don't have to use Mt. Gox (best reason) [21:29]
mjr_ so, maybe a little riskier, but also i've emailed the guy and erik said he is a good guy, so i feel somewhat comfortable with it [21:30]
mjr_ not that he vouched in any way [21:30]
mircea_popescu he IS a good guy [21:30]
DeadWeasel I'm a good guy, send me btc [21:30]
mircea_popescu he did some open source stuff, whiz kid [21:30]
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mjr_ yeah, his platform is nice [21:30]
mircea_popescu but prudential is what it is. [21:30]
mjr_ yeah [21:30]
mjr_ i kinda want to help bring volume for many reasons [21:30]
mjr_ he will be able to pay back if he collects more revenue [21:31]
mjr_ i think having 80% of volume go through mt.gox is insane [21:31]
mjr_ he is local and doesn't require id [21:31]
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mjr_ and he gives liquidity rebates... [21:31]
mircea_popescu mjr_ it's not the case. [21:31]
mjr_ handles FIX messages in his API [21:31]
mjr_ well ID to withdraw cash [21:31]
mjr_ i think [21:31]
mjr_ but i can drop off anonymously [21:32]
mjr_ and i have no interest in cash [21:32]
mircea_popescu mt gox has something like over half, i think [21:32]
mjr_ oh they advertise 80% [21:32]
mjr_ well...to be fair they say july 2011 [21:32]
mjr_ but still [21:32]
mircea_popescu :p [21:32]
mjr_ i think a bunch of small local exchanges is better for the ecosystem [21:33]
mircea_popescu this is true [21:33]
mjr_ and i find their limits and fees onerous [21:33]
mjr_ their process is byzantine to me [21:33]
mjr_ i don't understand the voucher system and why we need an extra layer of annoyance [21:33]
mircea_popescu im curious how the recent bitcoinica drama will unfold. [21:33]
mjr_ yeah [21:34]
mjr_ always drama in bitcoinland [21:34]
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mjr_ has anyone used camp bx? they also look really good [21:35]
DeadWeasel the bot has changed his amount to .13 and is putting downward pressure on BTC price. [21:35]
DeadWeasel from .10 [21:36]
mircea_popescu which bot ? [21:36]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [21:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.41728, Best ask: 26.42859, Bid-ask spread: 0.01131, Last trade: 26.42859, 24 hour volume: 143011.50114582, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 26.67000, 24 hour vwap: 25.04569 [21:36]
DeadWeasel the one I assume is a bot because I see a .13 sell every 6 or 8 transactions, sometimes 3 in a row at .002 less than the last. [21:37]
DeadWeasel seems like a bot,i've got no way to know. [21:37]
mjr_ also...i find that these exchanges are much easier to arb [21:37]
mjr_ look at bitfloor and then look at camp bx [21:37]
mjr_ 10 coins for sale at 26.65 [21:38]
B0g4r7_ I'll buy your 10 coins for $26.65. [21:38]
mjr_ can buy at 26.40 on bitfloor [21:38]
mjr_ read up [21:38]
mjr_ i'm showing the arbitrage opportunity that exists right now [21:39]
B0g4r7_ Oh, you meant $26.65 each. ;P [21:39]
mjr_ .25 [21:39]
mjr_ gotta get to work on my bot [21:39]
B0g4r7_ I had the beginnings of a bot. [21:39]
mjr_ cuz i can transfer between these two relatively easily [21:39]
mjr_ me too [21:39]
mjr_ it was just a spread finder [21:39]
mjr_ if the spread was larger than the fees it would market make [21:39]
B0g4r7_ I was pleased to discover that once I had it talking to one exchange's API, it "just worked" with 3 others with no changes. [21:39]
mjr_ nice [21:40]
mjr_ i wish i could trust btc-e [21:40]
mjr_ they have the best prices always i think [21:40]
B0g4r7_ But you don't trust, eh? [21:40]
mjr_ eh don't know [21:40]
mjr_ seems too far away [21:41]
mjr_ i don't use mt. gox [21:41]
mjr_ i've used bitinstant, local, bitfloor, and soon camp bx [21:41]
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B0g4r7_ I used btc-e a couple times to exchange for LTC. Had no issues. [21:42]
mjr_ nice [21:42]
mjr_ just seems to hard for me personally to get money all the way there [21:42]
mjr_ international wire [21:43]
mjr_ wait days [21:43]
mjr_ i want to move fast [21:43]
mjr_ i just got btc in camp bx now [21:43]
mjr_ so i can take advantage of that offer sitting on the books [21:43]
mjr_ and they let you send hidden orders *drool* [21:44]
mjr_ so much easier to front run :) i gotta get to work on this bot [21:44]
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mod6 laaaaaaag zapped me out [21:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00063973 = 4.0943 BTC [+] [21:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00064034 = 1.2602 BTC [+] [21:52]
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DeadWeasel wtf 27 [21:56]
DeadWeasel ;;ticker [21:56]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.88167, Best ask: 26.91933, Bid-ask spread: 0.03766, Last trade: 27.00000, 24 hour volume: 148547.21940210, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.03987, 24 hour vwap: 25.12082 [21:56]
kakobrekla ::bc,convert eur [21:57]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [21:57]
gribble 1 BTC = 27.00000 U.S. dollars = 20.2596233 Euros [21:57]
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Bugpowder fuclk [22:01]
kakobrekla yea [22:01]
kakobrekla my words exactly. [22:01]
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Bugpowder Ireally managed tofuck up my best trade ever [22:02]
Bugpowder oh well [22:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.05712394 = 57.1239 BTC [-] [22:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.07274391 = 72.7439 BTC [-] [22:03]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.09149325 = 91.4933 BTC [-] [22:03]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [22:03]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.09800, Best ask: 27.17804, Bid-ask spread: 0.08004, Last trade: 27.23334, 24 hour volume: 151359.26250357, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.15996 [22:04]
mircea_popescu the wow [22:04]
kakobrekla is fucked. [22:04]
mircea_popescu it's like... wow. [22:04]
mircea_popescu 27 ? srlsy ?! [22:04]
mircea_popescu went form 21 to 27 in 16 hours ? [22:04]
DeadWeasel dat not good [22:04]
DeadWeasel too bouncy [22:04]
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DeadWeasel ;;asks 26.5 [22:05]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 26.5 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. [22:05]
DeadWeasel ;;asks 27 [22:05]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 27.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. [22:05]
DeadWeasel damn [22:05]
DeadWeasel asks disappeared in 2 seconds [22:06]
DeadWeasel ;;asks 28 [22:06]
gribble There are currently 10647.286 bitcoins offered at or under 28.0 USD, worth 294253.35604 USD in total. [22:06]
DeadWeasel ;;asks 29 [22:06]
gribble There are currently 13698.669 bitcoins offered at or under 29.0 USD, worth 381539.936416 USD in total. [22:06]
DeadWeasel ;;bids 29 [22:06]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 29.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. [22:06]
kakobrekla 30 here we come [22:06]
DeadWeasel thank you for saying that, i always get itchy trigger finger in these wild swings. I'm such an emotional woman [22:07]
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* DeadWeasel calls himself a woman metaphorically [22:08]
Bugpowder fuk this [22:08]
DeadWeasel dumps coming [22:09]
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mjr_ man, this is great [22:09]
mjr_ i love these exchanges [22:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.723 = 3.615 BTC [-] [22:11]
burnside picking out apartments in santa monica [22:12]
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burnside Bugpowder - you live in Santa Monica? [22:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 5 @ 0.0063 = 0.0315 BTC [+] [22:14]
mod6 ;;ticker [22:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.07455, Best ask: 27.08704, Bid-ask spread: 0.01249, Last trade: 27.24000, 24 hour volume: 153179.59959284, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.18652 [22:22]
DeadWeasel 12K to 28. Everyone expect a big drop at 30? [22:23]
DeadWeasel or more ilke 32/35? [22:23]
DeadWeasel i know we don't know, but what does your gut expect/ [22:23]
DeadWeasel ? [22:24]
DeadWeasel ;;slap deadweasel [22:24]
gribble Error: timed out [22:24]
DeadWeasel Gribble! [22:24]
DeadWeasel don't die on me! [22:24]
DeadWeasel I need a good spank! [22:24]
DeadWeasel ;;slap deadweasel [22:24]
* gribble slaps deadweasel with a radioactive single reed [22:24]
* DeadWeasel is releived [22:24]
DeadWeasel relieved* [22:25]
DeadWeasel ;;ticker [22:25]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.20000, Best ask: 27.22800, Bid-ask spread: 0.02800, Last trade: 27.20000, 24 hour volume: 153518.46183669, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.25000, 24 hour vwap: 25.19122 [22:25]
DeadWeasel dinner time tonight, 40-70kBTC dum [22:26]
DeadWeasel p [22:26]
DeadWeasel probably [22:26]
DeadWeasel if last night is any indicator [22:26]
Diablo-D3 jesus what [22:28]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P260T] 1000 @ 0.08972507 = 89.7251 BTC [-] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P250T] 1000 @ 0.07128309 = 71.2831 BTC [-] [22:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P240T] 1000 @ 0.05592943 = 55.9294 BTC [-] [22:32]
maximian http://blog.reddit.com/2013/02/new-gold-payment-options-bitcoin-and.html [22:33]
maximian This will make a news splash for sure [22:35]
mircea_popescu o hey [22:36]
mircea_popescu somewhatbashful will love that1. [22:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P230T] 1000 @ 0.04308293 = 43.0829 BTC [-] [22:37]
mjr_ why is there going to be a dump? [22:40]
jurov a day ago or so 250k ask wall shortly appeared on mtgox [22:41]
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jurov if it wasn't shoped, it's likely it's perparing for dump [22:42]
mircea_popescu http://www.btcguild.com/halloffame.php [22:42]
Lyspooner i'm trying to buy reddit gold with my bitcoin gems. someone help! [22:42]
mircea_popescu alleged asicminer 2.2th [22:42]
jurov ;;sell 250000 [22:42]
gribble (sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression of (1 more message) [22:42]
kakobrekla 15 blocks found by it [22:42]
jurov ;;bc,sell 250000 [22:42]
gribble Error: "bc,sell" is not a valid command. [22:42]
mjr_ oh wow, so asicminer is doing good i guess [22:43]
mircea_popescu by now it's 1/3 of the whole pool [22:43]
mircea_popescu and if indeed they have 12th it will be 16th in btcguild out of 37th total [22:44]
mircea_popescu closing in on 50% [22:44]
mircea_popescu Network total 23.541 Thash/s atm, which is even worse. [22:44]
mircea_popescu and makes the 2th figure look like shenanigans really. [22:44]
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DeadWeasel ;;ticker [22:45]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 27.25414, Best ask: 27.30710, Bid-ask spread: 0.05296, Last trade: 27.50000, 24 hour volume: 157549.28385180, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.50000, 24 hour vwap: 25.25535 [22:45]
kakobrekla ;;bc,convert eur [22:47]
gribble 1 BTC = 27.50000 U.S. dollars = 20.6348015 Euros [22:47]
maximian I think with this news, it's going to $30 for sure [22:47]
mircea_popescu why so ? [22:48]
maximian fresh injection of hype [22:48]
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mircea_popescu a that [22:49]
mircea_popescu ya [22:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.0006375 = 3.9844 BTC [-] [22:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11450 @ 0.000637 = 7.2937 BTC [-] [22:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00627988 = 3.1399 BTC [-] [22:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 650 @ 0.00628 = 4.082 BTC [+] [22:50]
mod6 ;;market --sell 250000 [22:51]
gribble A market order to sell 250000 bitcoins right now would net 3327608.8468 USD and would take the last price down to 2.2000 USD, resulting in an average price of 13.3104 USD/BTC. [22:51]
gigavps https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144046.0;topicseen [22:51]
mod6 wow. if that happens, i be buying. [22:51]
jurov reddit lulz "67117 identity reviled, it's asicminer" [22:51]
mircea_popescu jurov they said so iirc [22:52]
jurov they're reviled [22:52]
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Diablo-D3 I thought we already knew this? [22:54]
jurov ;;ud reviled [22:55]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=reviled | 1. to assail with contemptuous or opprobrious language; address or speak of abusively. 2. to speak abusively. [22:55]
mircea_popescu hahaah owned me. [22:55]
mircea_popescu thought you misspelled revealed. [22:55]
mjr_ reddit just started accepting bitcoins [22:55]
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mjr_ going through coinbase [22:56]
mircea_popescu yeh [22:56]
mjr_ so now, if every redditor at least just sees the option if they go to pay [22:56]
mjr_ they will at least think, oh that's a thing [22:57]
mjr_ could be big publicity [22:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.739 = 3.695 BTC [+] [22:58]
* mjr_ drools at the possiblity of netflix accepting btc [22:58]
mircea_popescu that'd actually be pretty cool. [22:58]
mjr_ it makes sense for them [22:58]
mjr_ even just offering the option... [22:59]
mjr_ exposure [22:59]
mjr_ gonna start an email campaign...now [22:59]
maximian this is crazy good publicity [23:00]
maximian perhaps the most important news event since the Silk Road story on Gawker [23:01]
nanotube what's this, reddit takes bitcoins now? nice :) [23:04]
mjr_ yeah [23:07]
mjr_ i'm sure not everyone even uses reddit gold [23:07]
mjr_ and those that do may not even choose to use btc [23:07]
mjr_ but at least they will have heard of it now [23:07]
mjr_ i think if many people push to get online content providers to offer it [23:08]
mjr_ netflix, hulu plus, spotify, pandora, etc [23:08]
mjr_ that would be very nice [23:08]
mjr_ and it fits in very well with their model [23:09]
mjr_ though it would be nice if there was a wallet that did recurring payments [23:09]
nanotube mjr_: cool. /me doesn't use reddit, but i hear it's pretty big. [23:11]
nanotube also, wallet with recurring payments... that's called a cronjob :D [23:11]
maximian bitcoin sentiment is shifting from "lolz… monopoly money" to "wtf? really?" [23:11]
mjr_ yeah, the bitcoin channel is ok, though not super smart financially speaking [23:11]
mjr_ exactly [23:11]
nanotube though really i'm not sure i'd want to do any recurring payments automatically. [23:11]
mjr_ and i know cron jobs :( so like i said we need a wallet with recurring payments [23:11]
nanotube there's a protocol being developed for payment requests and receipts and stuff, that would probably be pretty good for it. [23:12]
mjr_ sweet [23:12]
mjr_ just saying that would be a great feature to offer a netflix [23:12]
mjr_ they love recurring monthly stuff vs they have to choose to pay each month [23:12]
makomk malaimo markedathome maximian midnightmagic mircea_popescu mjr_ mjr__ mod6 molec [23:12]
mircea_popescu maximian exactly. [23:12]
nanotube yes, it's good for the seller, bad for the buyer.... [23:12]
nanotube (i.e., a lot of those guys count on people forgetting to cancel) [23:12]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=940&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0& [23:13]
mircea_popescu dat cock. [23:13]
nanotube howdy mircea_popescu :) [23:14]
mircea_popescu hey! [23:14]
mjr_ yeah, i mean, that is kinda on the buyer [23:16]
mjr_ you don't like, you cancel [23:16]
mjr_ but, i kinda appreciate not having to think about netflix, just automatically take my $7...if i had to call or actually do something...probably wouldn't be worth the effort [23:16]
mircea_popescu mjr_ prolly can have an app. [23:17]
mjr_ true [23:17]
mjr_ by the way...notice that reddit went through coinbase... [23:17]
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mjr_ i think they will do better as online wallet/vendor support than as actual bitcoin exchange [23:17]
mjr_ TBH, it is my second least favorite method after mt gox [23:18]
mjr_ is there a way to tweet a bitcoin at someone? [23:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006394 = 2.7628 BTC [+] [23:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14779 @ 0.00063957 = 9.4522 BTC [+] [23:28]
mod6 ;;ticker [23:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.50000, Best ask: 27.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 26.50000, 24 hour volume: 162182.55852551, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.32592 [23:29]
mod6 hmmm [23:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3517 @ 0.00063744 = 2.2419 BTC [-] [23:32]
mjr_ ok... [23:33]
mjr_ so i went to suggest to netflix [23:33]
mjr_ had to live chat cuz i couldn't find an email address [23:33]
mjr_ he said they don't have one for suggestions [23:34]
mjr_ but that he could relay my suggestion [23:34]
mjr_ so i said my first suggestion is that you get an email address for suggestions [23:34]
mjr_ second suggestion, accept bitcoins [23:34]
mod6 lol [23:35]
mircea_popescu wrong order. [23:35]
mod6 nice [23:35]
mjr_ lol [23:35]
mjr_ well...i want to be able to try and get a bunch of people to email [23:35]
mjr_ cuz getting them to chat with jason will be tougher [23:35]
mircea_popescu lol [23:35]
mircea_popescu this shit's so unreal. from 14 to 28 in a month ? [23:36]
mircea_popescu srsly ? [23:36]
mjr_ i had the time and thought this guy would be like wtf [23:36]
mjr_ he was like, ah i haven't heard of that in a while [23:36]
mod6 it seems like every new leg up is met with a round of selling though. and it marches on... [23:36]
mjr_ yep [23:36]
mjr_ saw a great article on the rally [23:36]
mircea_popescu mod6 yup [23:36]
pigeons jurov: the wall wasn't shopped, i saw it [23:36]
mircea_popescu this cvan not but end up in tears. [23:36]
mjr_ http://bitcoinmagazine.com/13-to-26-exploring-the-bitcoin-rally/ [23:37]
pigeons i dont think bitcoinmagazine links are allowed in here [23:37]
mjr_ this time (i believe) it is based on greater adoption and publicity [23:38]
mjr_ oops sorry [23:38]
mjr_ did not realize that [23:38]
mjr_ !help [23:38]
assbot List of commands: [23:38]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) [23:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21 @ 0.00063957 = 0.0134 BTC [+] [23:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2353 @ 0.00064037 = 1.5068 BTC [+] [23:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064051 = 0.6405 BTC [+] [23:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9326 @ 0.00064052 = 5.9735 BTC [+] [23:39]
makomk malaimo markedathome maximian midnightmagic mircea_popescu mjr_ mjr__ mod6 molec [23:39]
mircea_popescu mjr_ he's trolling you [23:39]
mircea_popescu "Market prediction is a difficult thing; if it were easy, Bitcoin would have immediately jumped all the way to some final price back in 2009. Perhaps the best strategy for most of us is to simply wait and see." [23:39]
mircea_popescu ironically... that's what apparently happened to s.mpoe. [23:39]
mjr_ anyway, by any metric you choose, they are growing everywhere, blog mentions, google trends, SR users, SR items for sale, overall volume [23:40]
mircea_popescu it went way up and since then it's been roughly stable [23:40]
mjr_ lol yeah [23:40]
mjr_ no one can predict and i don't even want to [23:40]
mircea_popescu just going by how annoyed somethingbashful is tho... [23:40]
mircea_popescu pretty funny. [23:40]
mjr_ but i can see baseless tulip stuff vs growing interest [23:40]
mircea_popescu " It's just a neat piece for people to talk about to feel tapped into the pulse of the Internet without actually having to do it. "You hear about that internet currency? Yeah it's pretty neat huh" and that's the end of it. It's just a filler piece, a blurb, not really a publicity piece. [23:41]
mircea_popescu There's nothing actually newsworthy about bitcoin at this point except in drug law and so on. Drugs aren't really "in" right now in the news cycle. Now, if someone started selling unregistered guns with extended magazines using bitcoin. . ." [23:41]
mircea_popescu bitcoin isn't really happening volume 349578349 [23:41]
mjr_ is that counting other exchanges and coinbase? [23:41]
mircea_popescu "When this bubble bursts it won't be newsworthy because nothing of importance will be lost. There will be a few articles on Gawker or whatever but nobody will really report on this. Bitcoin will die slowly, fading into obscurity as the last true believer tries to tell his son with his dying breath "there's always money in the bitcoin shack," not realizing his son mothballed that loving shack years ago because it was st [23:41]
mircea_popescu upid makework and the solar panels powering it could be used for something fruitful." [23:41]
mircea_popescu sweet sweet tears lol [23:41]
mjr_ hahahaha [23:42]
mjr_ i mean, changing the world and the financial systems, giving people a more democratic method of payment, giving them power...that is all well and good...i really just want to see SA cry [23:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064049 = 2.7676 BTC [-] [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0006405 = 2.7676 BTC [+] [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6125 @ 0.00064052 = 3.9232 BTC [+] [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00064108 = 7.3083 BTC [+] [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6380 @ 0.00064182 = 4.0948 BTC [+] [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4553 @ 0.00064311 = 2.9281 BTC [+] [23:43]
mircea_popescu it's their interwebs forum, they can cry if they want to . [23:43]
mircea_popescu certainly better than mangosteencoin tho. [23:43]
mircea_popescu which i think is the real problem here. [23:43]
mircea_popescu "I really hope asicminer brings all their stuff online, takes control of the network and pushes all the other mining pools out of existence by increasing the difficulty beyond profitability for anyone without their own ASICs. People desert Bitcoin in droves, the price crashes and ASIC owners are left holding the bag of worthless Bitcoins and useless, expensive hardware." [23:44]
mircea_popescu this was totally the best interwbs report so far. [23:44]
mircea_popescu so full of butthurtcoin... [23:44]
mod6 yeah. these guys have epic amounts of butthurt. [23:45]
mod6 this is all stuff from SA huh? [23:45]
mircea_popescu Someone did the math some minutes ago on the BFL chat how much a single Jalapeno would earn per day if everyone rolls out as intended and the difficulty matches that hashrate. [23:45]
mircea_popescu It's "0.025152 - 0.037728" BTC per day. Yup, your 150$ device makes 4 to 6 cent a day (at pre bubble burst prices). [23:45]
mircea_popescu also can not math any. [23:46]
mircea_popescu which is somewhat not surprising, i guess they're mostly the liberal arts/community college folks with a lot of debt and degrees in whore/nigger studies right ? [23:46]
mod6 yeah [23:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.74 = 2.96 BTC [+] [23:48]
mjr_ lol [23:48]
mjr_ they are only going to have half the hashing power of the avalons [23:48]
mircea_popescu if indeed avalon delivers anything eventually then its kinda perfect that asicminer came online first [23:48]
mircea_popescu 25 + 12 + 18 best way for this to play out [23:48]
mjr_ avalon has been online [23:49]
mjr_ 2 of them [23:49]
mjr_ i saw one in person [23:49]
mircea_popescu nah, they sent like 60 units which are awol/possibly confiscated/stuck in customs/who knows [23:49]
mjr_ watched it hash, (well not actually the bits, but it was on) [23:49]
mircea_popescu and the rest are stuck in ny celebrations [23:49]
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mjr_ yeah the first batch is not "wild" yet [23:49]
mjr_ but the 2 PoC are [23:50]
mircea_popescu well yes [23:50]
mjr_ will BFL ever deliver [23:50]
mircea_popescu actually im kind of curious if inaba REALLY thinks he;ll be able to walk away from the eventual bfl blow up [23:50]
mircea_popescu especially after what happened to buzz dave. [23:50]
mjr_ do you know what exchange asicminer is going to be on? [23:51]
mircea_popescu http://blockchain.info/pools [23:51]
mircea_popescu it also seems the btc guild thing was judicious [23:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.999999 BTC [-] [23:52]
mircea_popescu i wonder if the next 4th go to slush [23:52]
mircea_popescu mjr_ they're developing their own last i heard. [23:52]
mjr_ interesting [23:52]
Lyspooner when did those 23, 24, 25, 26 puts trade mircea_popescu [23:52]
mircea_popescu yest and earlier. [23:52]
mircea_popescu the forum is abuzz with commentary. [23:52]
mircea_popescu https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/952-new-account-page-website-shows-your-orders-11.html#post14508 that shit's pretty good. [23:53]
mjr_ think idiff futures are a good call? [23:53]
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mircea_popescu mjr_ well... i dunno. [23:54]
mircea_popescu kinda wide spread on them [23:55]
mircea_popescu i imagine sooner or later someone competent - maybe a miner - will start mming them [23:55]
mjr_ by the way [23:56]
mjr_ at current price, we may have broken 300 mil [23:56]
mjr_ 280 using average which is around 25 [23:56]
mjr_ think there is at least another 20 mil for $2.... [23:56]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:56]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 26.95326, Best ask: 26.99997, Bid-ask spread: 0.04671, Last trade: 26.95326, 24 hour volume: 162515.40000499, 24 hour low: 21.72100, 24 hour high: 27.59690, 24 hour vwap: 25.34225 [23:56]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 10.780*25.34225 [23:56]
gribble 273.189455 [23:56]
mircea_popescu not yet [23:56]
Lyspooner what about the 20EUR/BTC mark? [23:57]
Lyspooner that's right here [23:57]
mircea_popescu thaty's done [23:57]
mjr_ no, not using vwap, using mt gox last i meant [23:57]
mjr_ not official [23:57]
mjr_ but getting there [23:57]
Lyspooner the euro's still around? jesus [23:57]
mod6 haha [23:57]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner don't hate, i bought some homeless chicks pizzas with bitcoins like yest. [23:58]
Lyspooner some homeless chicks' pizzas more like it [23:58]
Lyspooner ruthless! [23:58]
mircea_popescu well they claimed they were students but i dunno... [23:58]
mircea_popescu fuck. i said with bitcoins [23:58]
mircea_popescu I meant with EUROs [23:59]
mircea_popescu jesus it's falling into irrelevancy. [23:59]
mod6 ahhh [23:59]
Lyspooner ok makes sense now [23:59]
mjr_ yeah, think a few of them want out of the eurozone [23:59]
mod6 i was wondering if you used the pizza.itradebtc.com thingy [23:59]
mircea_popescu no, i used a street vendor [23:59]
Lyspooner i did pizzaforbitcoins, it is worthless [23:59]
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