Forum logs for 13 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35841 @ 0.000507 = 18.1714 BTC [-] [00:22]
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Atomic-Closed How does one get ahold of their asset issuer to avoid filing a suit? [00:24]
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BTC-Mining What do you mean exactly? [00:27]
Atomic-Closed I mean I have been trying to contact the issuer of an asset listed on GLBSE for over a month and have been ignored [00:31]
smickles Atomic-Closed: what would you even sue for? [00:31]
Atomic-Closed I have the address of the mining operation and am ready to file suit for unpayed dividends [00:31]
smickles i mean, it's not like you can prove you were owed dividends, is it? [00:31]
BTC-Mining Which asset? [00:32]
Atomic-Closed Bitbond [00:32]
BTC-Mining Ah. [00:32]
BTC-Mining I also issued a mining op on GLBSE. [00:33]
smickles Is the situation different for bitbond? [00:33]
smickles 'cause the rest of us can't prove how many (if any) shares we had [00:33]
BTC-Mining I just don't see how you can pay anyone claiming to be owed anything without a proof. Claims will be much higher than what's owed. [00:34]
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Atomic-Closed Considering that the dividends are to be payed on a set scheduled, and statements have been made to how they will be held until the GLBSE crap is over without the input of the shareholders [00:34]
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BTC-Mining But the issuer don't even know who is or is not a shareholder. Taking input wouldn't even be feasible. [00:35]
Atomic-Closed still dosent mean I cant sue [00:35]
smickles Atomic-Closed: well, you can sue, but I could also sue my cat [00:35]
jurov if you so want to sue, sue nefario. for undue delays [00:35]
BTC-Mining If you don't have a proof/document that anything is owed... [00:35]
Atomic-Closed Im considering posting hte address of the mining farm on the forum to atleaszt get a response from the op [00:36]
Atomic-Closed thats by biggest issue is the non-communication [00:36]
smickles non-communication of no new news? [00:36]
Atomic-Closed I have the logs of the presale and post sale conversations [00:36]
jurov they will say "we're waiting for nefario". what do you do then? [00:36]
Buglouse smickles: You're cat would win, according to you, you are its _owner_; slaves are not able to appropriate contrancts? [00:37]
BTC-Mining I can talk to Bitbond's issuer... had no problem with that. [00:37]
Buglouse smickles: err, you would be suing yourself [00:37]
smickles in all seriousness, all glbse assets should be considered lost untill nefario releases the data in provable way [00:37]
BTC-Mining He probably didn't answer on account of you demanding to be paid? [00:38]
smickles yeah, demanding to be paid at this point is unreasonable [00:38]
Atomic-Closed So should that mean that all anonymity is null and void too? [00:38]
smickles Atomic-Closed: what are you expecting here? the issue can't do anything because nefario fucked them [00:38]
BTC-Mining It means that with anonymity, with the exchange closing, who is owed what got lost. [00:39]
Atomic-Closed The issuer knows that i own shares [00:39]
smickles and because nefario fucked the issuer, he fucked you too by proxy [00:39]
smickles Atomic-Closed: but without proof it would be wrong to pay you and not the others [00:39]
Atomic-Closed I was told my that investment was safe by the issuer [00:39]
BTC-Mining Imagine you're bitbond. There's people claiming to be owed X and you can't verify. You pay them. Then info is released and you realise many who claimed weren't owed anything at all to start with... [00:39]
smickles I know I own X shares of s2cm, but i can't pay even myself dividends [00:40]
BTC-Mining hmm... but were the shares on GLBSE? [00:40]
Atomic-Closed they were sold pre-ipo [00:40]
JWU_42 hmm - that is a bit different [00:40]
smickles Atomic-Closed: did you ever have the ability to sell them? [00:40]
JWU_42 but doesn't mean you still hold them [00:40]
BTC-Mining aye, but were they transfered on GLBSE or held outside of GLBSE? [00:41]
smickles if you ever had the ability to sell them, and don't have proof that you didn't sell them, then you are in the same position [00:41]
smickles it's really tough to prove a negative statement [00:41]
JWU_42 I am in that boat with YABMC - would love to shut it down but can't at this point [00:41]
JWU_42 need Nef to step up and do what he said [00:41]
Atomic-Closed Im thinking that I just need to post the information then. ITs the lack of response here that is killing me [00:42]
smickles I know how many shares I had, I likely know how many shares Azelphur has, and I likely know the minimum # of shares imsaguy has. but I can't pay dividends to any of us b/c we have no proof [00:43]
JWU_42 Atomic-Closed: you own bitbond ? [00:43]
Atomic-Closed I own shares of it [00:43]
JWU_42 that is amazingrando, right ? [00:43]
Azelphur indeed :/ [00:43]
Atomic-Closed yes it is [00:43]
smickles Atomic-Closed: I think you're likely just creating usless drama [00:43]
JWU_42 what are you wanting him to do exactly ? [00:43]
Atomic-Closed He stated he had a plan if nef didnt do as promised [00:44]
Atomic-Closed i want it exicuted [00:44]
JWU_42 ahh [00:44]
smickles oh? [00:44]
JWU_42 didn't read that [00:44]
smickles damn, that was stupid of him [00:44]
smickles what was the plan? [00:44]
Atomic-Closed that I dont know [00:44]
smickles well, that op was in seatle, right? [00:45]
Atomic-Closed Tacomma [00:45]
smickles oh yeah [00:45]
Atomic-Closed shared facility with Gigavps [00:45]
smickles and shakaru set it up [00:45]
Atomic-Closed yes [00:45]
smickles lol [00:45]
mircea_popescu Atomic-Closed now this is interesting [00:45]
smickles ;;getrating shakaru-otc [00:46]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User shakaru-otc, rated since Tue Dec 20 18:32:21 2011. Cumulative rating -3, from 6 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 3 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=shakaru-otc [00:46]
smickles "owes community over 20000 usd" [00:46]
mircea_popescu bitbond was owned/operated by amazingrando. [00:47]
JWU_42 I was not aware shakaru had anything to do with their Washington facility [00:47]
smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, but he let shakaru set up the farm after he welched on a massive debt [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9822 @ 0.0005061 = 4.9709 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10678 @ 0.000506 = 5.4031 BTC [-] [00:48]
Atomic-Closed I heard that his payement went to the repayment fund [00:48]
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mircea_popescu i had no idea shakaru had anything to do with it either. [00:48]
Atomic-Closed And is all fairness, I am being a bit harsh, but if nef runs, are we all just SOL? [00:48]
smickles JWU_42: shakaru told me himself, and sent me pics of it while he was still saying he'd pay me ~600 btc that he owed (still owed) me [00:48]
smickles *still owes [00:49]
JWU_42 hmm [00:49]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't take his word for anything. [00:49]
smickles Atomic-Closed: yes [00:49]
mircea_popescu ;;getrating amazingrando [00:49]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User amazingrando, rated since Sun Jan 8 01:29:35 2012. Cumulative rating 46, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 15 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 11 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=amazingrando [00:49]
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mircea_popescu dude nobody is left ffs. [00:50]
mircea_popescu i am the fucking dean of age of btc finance. this is sad, i've barely been here a year. [00:50]
kakobrekla :DD [00:51]
JWU_42 pump and dump [00:51]
JWU_42 ;) [00:51]
mircea_popescu this situation needs to seriously improve. [00:52]
Atomic-Closed I agree [00:53]
mircea_popescu anyway. so you had the investment pre-ipo and were allocated glbse shares after ipo ? [00:53]
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Atomic-Closed It was pre the second ipo. Or when the shares were aded [00:55]
Atomic-Closed added* [00:55]
Atomic-Closed at this point its hard to even know with no access to glbse [00:55]
mircea_popescu yeah. well... [00:55]
mircea_popescu i can see the guy's position. how can he know you didn't sell the shares on glbse [00:55]
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Atomic-Closed I guess your right [00:56]
mircea_popescu not much he can do. picked the wrong exchange, everyone's fucked. [00:57]
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thestringpuller How do you know the writing contest won't be a political campaign [01:02]
Atomic-Closed well thank you all for your input [01:03]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller huh ? [01:03]
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thestringpuller people campaigning to be the best story [01:03]
mircea_popescu why would i care ? [01:04]
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thestringpuller lol [01:05]
thestringpuller competition eh? [01:05]
mod6 sure! [01:05]
mod6 XD [01:05]
mircea_popescu you got the writing bug mod6 ? [01:05]
mod6 I read the post for sure - I think its a really interesting/worthwhile idea to get some well-thought out discussion on the matter. [01:06]
mod6 I thought about writing something -- but I better just stick to getting BitOTTer finished [01:08]
mod6 :) [01:08]
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mod6 maybe i'll get a chance to write something though, we'll see. I just got this new lappy working - its /way/ faster for running the android emulator [01:08]
mod6 4 cores instead of 2 = zooooooom [01:09]
mircea_popescu hehe prolly right. [01:10]
mircea_popescu should give the people who didn't learn math in school a chance too [01:10]
mod6 ahh! a two-fer! :D [01:10]
mod6 you've had a bunch of good posts in english on trilema, so thx for that [01:12]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is a bully [01:12]
mircea_popescu haha ty. [01:12]
thestringpuller i bet you believe all children should have bullies :P [01:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46922 @ 0.000506 = 23.7425 BTC [-] [01:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8478 @ 0.00050582 = 4.2883 BTC [-] [01:13]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [01:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.08980, Best ask: 11.09000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00020, Last trade: 11.08980, 24 hour volume: 38835.80047192, 24 hour low: 10.76666, 24 hour high: 11.18000, 24 hour vwap: 10.99078 [01:14]
mod6 wow, it hit 11.18 [01:15]
mircea_popescu mhm [01:16]
mod6 !ticker S.MPOE [01:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.0005025 / 0.0005072 / 0.00051161 (1691707 shares, 858.04 BTC), 30day: 0.0004035 / 0.00045616 / 0.00051161 (67514063 shares, 30,797.82 BTC) [01:18]
jurov mircea, is there any difference in exercising MKOPT and SPLIT-issued option for the issuer? [01:18]
mircea_popescu nope. [01:18]
jurov so both are allocated as appropriate part of total exercises? [01:19]
mircea_popescu both create the same, indistinguishable instrument. [01:19]
mod6 how's coinbr going jurov? [01:19]
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jurov welcome. seems you were on the wrong side of the split :P [01:29]
mircea_popescu haha ty! welcome to you all back into my world! [01:30]
kakobrekla http://www.pieterhugo.com/ [01:31]
mircea_popescu bah im so sick fo these fuckwits. [01:33]
mircea_popescu IT IS VERY GOOD THAT MARGINAL COMMUNITIES GET FUCKED. [01:33]
mircea_popescu this is the motherfucking point of life. [01:34]
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dub the point of life is for the civilised world to ensure that the uncivilised never catch up? [01:44]
dub doesn't quite fit the 'free market' ideology [01:44]
pigeons "civilised" is a vague/loaded word [01:45]
dub its easy to infer my meaning though [01:45]
pigeons yes [01:45]
dub the countries that understand the need to recycle/manage waste [01:46]
pigeons there is no response to his statement [01:46]
mircea_popescu it's not dick's job to ensure jane "catches up" [01:46]
mircea_popescu fuck jane. [01:46]
pigeons not in caps this time [01:46]
dub he is ensuring that she cannot? [01:46]
mircea_popescu hwo so ? [01:47]
dub by poisoning her and rendering her environment unproductive at best, probably uninhabitable by dick's standards [01:49]
mircea_popescu yaya. [01:49]
dub it does not scale [01:49]
mircea_popescu the assumption underlying your evaluation is that dick = jane [01:50]
dub what happens when jane dies and dick has to look after his own shit [01:50]
mircea_popescu this is false. dick is a pretty cool guy. jane is a worthless pos. [01:50]
mircea_popescu dick is giving her a crumb in exchange for her scratching his back. [01:50]
dub no, dick is giving her a poison chalice [01:50]
mircea_popescu if he doesn't want the risk of breaking a nail she can do w/o the crumb. [01:50]
smickles i've missed something here [01:50]
mircea_popescu "it doesn't scale" [01:51]
mircea_popescu d'uh, of course it doesn't. [01:51]
mircea_popescu it should not. [01:51]
mircea_popescu not everyone belongs in a palace. most people belong in the huts, so as to have palaces. for just a few. [01:51]
smickles what's this fun with dick and jane? /me scrolls log [01:51]
mircea_popescu i r fighting the beast of collectivism. [01:51]
dub mircea_popescu: what happens when there are no more habitable huts [01:52]
smickles What are they burning plastic for? [01:52]
dub dick flies away in his magic rocket to another place and starts over? [01:52]
mircea_popescu smickles for being imbeciles, basically. [01:52]
dub smickles: recycling [01:52]
mircea_popescu dub pretty much. [01:52]
dub mircea_popescu: that is not a realistic end game [01:53]
mircea_popescu yes, it is. [01:53]
smickles that's not how you recycle plastic, afaik [01:53]
mircea_popescu if you imagine that the entire population of africa croaking tomorrow would make any difference you're dreaming. [01:53]
mircea_popescu smickles depends if you're from ghana. [01:53]
dub smickles: thats what happens to most of your countries recylcling [01:53]
smickles if all of africal died, i'd say that's a pretty big market opportunity [01:54]
dub its not just ghana [01:54]
mircea_popescu smickles "nice country, unfortunately inhabited" [01:54]
smickles who makes money by shipping all my plastic to ghana? [01:55]
mircea_popescu the problem really is these days, the rich/successful/smart don't flaunt it nearly enough [01:55]
smickles that sounds like a great racket to be in [01:55]
mircea_popescu the poor/stupid/failed get the idea that they're doing pretty ok [01:55]
dub some contractor to your govt [01:55]
mircea_popescu and it's just "bad luck". or even they;'re owed something. [01:55]
mircea_popescu smickles it's not even the case, most plastic gets buried. [01:55]
mircea_popescu on the spot. [01:55]
dub unless dick has already started on his escape plan (protip: he hasn't because he's spending all his money making war) then your end game fails [01:56]
smickles seems better to bury it than burn it to me [01:56]
dub they're burning it to extract metal [01:57]
mircea_popescu dub what escape, seriously ? [01:57]
dub mircea_popescu: the rocket of course [01:57]
mircea_popescu get out. when "there's" no more inhabitable huts some will be buldozed, asphalted over and re-hutted [01:57]
dub smickles: they've been sold the opportunity to extract metal and sell it [01:57]
mircea_popescu and some will be just repopulated with ex-hut dwellers beaten into submission to new hut environment. [01:58]
dub only the catch is they have to die and kill thier land in the process [01:58]
mircea_popescu and i suppose it's your fault they're being stupid dub ? [01:58]
dub yes in part [01:58]
dub I recycle my rubbish because it saves me money [01:59]
dub I know that its not really being recycled, not in a scalable manner [01:59]
mircea_popescu i recycle because, guess what, i use recyclabe materials. [01:59]
dub its killing children in ghana [01:59]
mircea_popescu i buy glass bottles. my total plastic consumption is something like a few kgs a year. [01:59]
dub no you recycle because you have been incentivized via your wallet [02:00]
mircea_popescu not at all. [02:00]
mircea_popescu romania is a world apart. recycling was always high here [02:00]
mircea_popescu and to this day there's no fines/incentives to do it. [02:00]
dub (I presume there is differentiated charging for recycling and common waste disposal in romania) [02:00]
mircea_popescu nope. [02:00]
mircea_popescu ever since the commie times they had an efficient recycling system in place. [02:00]
kakobrekla we get penalites here now if we dont. [02:00]
dub how quaint [02:00]
dub kakobrekla: carrot/stick same deal [02:01]
mircea_popescu this is like, the 60s. way before the west found out about recycling. [02:01]
kakobrekla its stupud as its useless [02:01]
dub mircea_popescu: do you actually know where the recycling goes? [02:01]
mircea_popescu and in any event garbage costs are dismal, i pay 2.8 euros per month [02:01]
mircea_popescu dub glass to the glass factory. metal to the metal sorting/refurbishing centers. paper to teh paper factory. etc. [02:02]
dub irrelevant [02:02]
mircea_popescu plastic to ghana. [02:02]
mircea_popescu (literally to ghana) [02:02]
smickles "plastic makes it possible" [02:02]
dub the market provides you an incentive to spend time sorting trash [02:02]
mircea_popescu nope ?! [02:02]
mircea_popescu what incentive lol. [02:02]
dub 2.8 EU a month [02:02]
mircea_popescu this is like saying the market provides me an incentive to chat with you. doth not, considering what i make it'd be hard pressed to. [02:02]
mircea_popescu 2.8 eur a month regardless tho. [02:03]
mircea_popescu actually [02:03]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 11.8 / 4.4 [02:03]
gribble 2.68181818182 [02:03]
mircea_popescu 2.7 [02:03]
dub anyway, the market then takes your trash and money and the money the state gives it to quietly dispose of its shit, and shops it to the 3rd world [02:04]
smickles so dub who is this contractor you mentioned, and what part of the gov't actually gives them teh monies? [02:04]
mircea_popescu dub no srlsy, it's mostly recycled locally. [02:04]
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dub smickles: some company, and the same part of govt that collects tax [02:04]
dub well no, but you get the idea [02:05]
mircea_popescu and i seriously see no problem even if all the garbage was dumped on some failed country. [02:05]
smickles lol, you have no details? where did you even get this info? [02:05]
dub mircea_popescu: well thats not normal from my understanding [02:05]
mircea_popescu this is what you get for sucking '; you store everyone's garbage. fuck you. [02:05]
dub smickles: its entirely dependant on idunno what vfuckign country you are in? [02:05]
mircea_popescu he's in the us lol [02:06]
pigeons i dump all my garbage when i fly over romania [02:06]
mircea_popescu ;;google persnickety american shot down over romania [02:06]
gribble Persnickety Snark: 2009-02-08: ; Daring Fireball Linked List: July 2012: ; The big soda ban and Michael Bloomberg' s struggle against vulgarity: [02:06]
smickles dub: so all of this is speculation? [02:06]
dub smickles: 'that guy didnt spoonfeed me the answers' is not a defence [02:06]
smickles i'm not forming a defence here, am I? [02:06]
mircea_popescu you must be!!! [02:07]
mircea_popescu for there are dumbass africans who burn their plastics!!! [02:07]
mircea_popescu FORM A DEFENCE! GIVE A SHIT! [02:07]
smickles anyway, generally, when you make an assertion, you should be able to justify it [02:07]
dub the africans would not burn the waste if we did not give it to them for that purpose [02:07]
mircea_popescu o, right. [02:07]
mircea_popescu let's give them some wells for the purpose of jumping in ? [02:07]
dub smickles: not really [02:07]
dub its teh case here, that means its likely the case in most of the world [02:08]
pigeons only if we can have round the clock news of the rescue attempts [02:08]
smickles the africans would not burn the waste if we did not give it to them for that purpose <<< define tenuous [02:08]
mircea_popescu next im going to hear an argument that slavery reparations should be enacted, to repay the young africans disposed of by the older africans. [02:08]
mircea_popescu it was all the dutchmen's fault!!11 [02:08]
dub smickles: they wouldnt have the waste to burn if our corporations did not provide massive amounts of it to them [02:09]
smickles its teh case here, that means its likely the case in most of the world <<< hasty generalization [02:09]
dub dude [02:09]
mircea_popescu dub that's ridiculous. i have caustic stuff in my house, i don't pour it in my eyes [02:09]
dub generalisations are all there is [02:09]
smickles dude, ever taken a logic class? [02:09]
mircea_popescu EVEN THO EVIL CORPS GAVE IT TO ME [02:09]
dub mircea_popescu: they've been sold recycling [02:09]
dub its all profit driven out of western markets [02:10]
mircea_popescu right! [02:10]
dub why the fuck else would it happen? [02:10]
mircea_popescu they want it, they have to work for it. [02:10]
mircea_popescu they don;'t want the work, they don't get the money. [02:10]
mircea_popescu why is this so hard to grasp ? [02:10]
dub well they dont really want it [02:10]
mircea_popescu so then let them stop. [02:10]
smickles didn't the wester world go thru hundreds of years of shit to get where they are now? [02:10]
mircea_popescu this is sounding like the rape trial. "well... i didn't REALLY want it" [02:11]
mircea_popescu smickles yes. [02:11]
dub take shell in nigeria [02:11]
mircea_popescu in fact, as recent as 100 years ago london was so covered in coal dust they had coal storms [02:11]
mircea_popescu apparently... they survived. [02:11]
dub do the villages that get poisoned want to die? [02:11]
mircea_popescu dub did shell get govt permits ? [02:11]
dub yes [02:12]
mircea_popescu then yes they do. [02:12]
mircea_popescu if they don't, elect better politicians. [02:12]
dub goodluck jonathan opened his arms [02:12]
dub sure, just need bigger guns [02:12]
mircea_popescu so get bigger guns. [02:12]
mircea_popescu which brings us round circle : this is the fucking point of life. either get the bigger gun or get good at sucking cock. [02:12]
dub doesnt scale [02:13]
mircea_popescu so you say. [02:13]
mircea_popescu far as i can see it scales just fine. [02:13]
dub the tide of shit will flow [02:13]
mircea_popescu yaya bs. [02:13]
mircea_popescu what doesn't scale is your expectation that every kid gets xmas [02:13]
dub I don't expect that [02:13]
mircea_popescu some kids die in the snow in front of my house. not all kids get xmas. [02:13]
smickles ya know, if you want to change the minds of smart people, you'll need to avoid logical fallacies [02:14]
smickles otherwise, they tend to have fun with you [02:14]
dub all this free market ideology is complete bullshit when the actions of a few prevent the many from even participating [02:14]
mircea_popescu smickles i think he just wants to unwind from the brainless zombie regurgitated crap he's bombarded with non stop in the "civilised" world. [02:14]
mircea_popescu dub not at all. [02:14]
dub smickles: smart people know these things [02:14]
dub I'm not trying to educate [02:15]
mircea_popescu no. idiots who invest in pirate and masquerade as "smart" "know" these "things" [02:15]
mircea_popescu where things really means idiotic nonsense. [02:15]
dub strawman [02:15]
smickles :D yay [02:16]
mircea_popescu would you have preferred i said "buy nefario flowers" ? [02:16]
mircea_popescu cause that also scales lol. [02:16]
dub smickles: which logical fallacies btw [02:17]
smickles so, it looks ly my city's plastic is either recycled locally, or burried locally [02:17]
dub did you grasp that its not 'plastic' they are burning? [02:18]
dub its e-waste contaning metals they are extracting for resale [02:18]
smickles well, i haven't found details about how most tucson corpo's recycle their compies yet [02:18]
dub also if you are going to compartmentalise this into 'the waste I personally generate' well, lol @ the convince smart people stuff [02:19]
mircea_popescu all this free market ideology is complete bullshit when the actions of a few prevent the many from even participating << srsly, it's the stupidity of the many that prevents them from participating. [02:19]
dub well again, when you have corrupt authoritarian states forcing their people to do this.. [02:21]
smickles ug, compartmentalize? you said it was some contractor from my gov't, i'm looking for that [02:21]
mircea_popescu dub wait a second. ever heard of tammany hall ? [02:21]
mircea_popescu corruption is something of the people by the people, it's not fallen from the sky. [02:21]
dub sure there is stupidity but its not like jane's son *click*bele mbwamba born with cancer from the lead in the water supply can do shit [02:21]
mircea_popescu dub fuck him, he was born to a stupid mother. [02:22]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120119.msg1331215#msg1331215 whoa looky! that acct exists since may! and it made 6 posts which are 3. [02:23]
mircea_popescu whose sock ? [02:23]
dub well im not sure but I think the free market idea is that he can improve his lot [02:23]
mircea_popescu dub improve his lot yes [02:23]
mircea_popescu his lot = my lot no. [02:23]
smickles ya know, it does involve a bit of luck, [02:23]
mircea_popescu and your problem is that you spurn his improving his shitty lot to shitty+1 [02:24]
mircea_popescu and you want him to improve to cool+12 [02:24]
smickles imporvement over being a computer burner prolly doesn't look like much to us, but may look like a lot to them [02:24]
mircea_popescu it ain't how it works. takes generations of peopleworking dilligently. [02:24]
mircea_popescu takes a couple of obamas to fuck it all to hell [02:24]
mircea_popescu it's how it works, going down is easier than going up. [02:24]
* mircea_popescu is surprised he hasn't heard the "but it's unfair, why should you have shit and cancerous anon fuckwit not have shit!!! aren't you both people!!!" [02:26]
dub my view is purely selfish [02:27]
dub you need to manage the proles [02:27]
dub it costs more not to, in the long run [02:27]
smickles dub: what are you suggesting we do [02:29]
mircea_popescu heh so as usual the socialist are actually the racists. [02:29]
mircea_popescu dude, they have the right to manage themselves, let them. [02:29]
smickles well, I mean, mircea_popescu is probably in a better position to do something than I am [02:29]
dub be honest, put your rubbish in your local landfil and wear the environmental fallout yourself [02:29]
smickles um [02:29]
smickles isn't that what I do? [02:30]
mircea_popescu dub that'd just destroy land values, i'd move to their country via gentrification and force them to move to mine [02:30]
dub instead of exporting your problem for profit [02:30]
mircea_popescu isn't it easier to move the garbage than the people ? [02:30]
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smickles I'm still not finding thes people who ship US compies to African countries to be melted down [02:30]
dub its not like they advertise this widely [02:31]
mircea_popescu smickles the reason you aren't is because there's no such thing. on the african side it's pretty much independent business. [02:31]
mircea_popescu as in, those unfortunate fucks are both more respectable and more human than the average us office drone [02:31]
mircea_popescu they live an independent life, out in the waste. [02:31]
smickles dub: there'd at least be indications of it from the gov't, b/c i doubt poor african countries pay enough to make it profitable on their own [02:32]
smickles a line item in a budget somewhere, associated with a statute [02:32]
dub where would there be indications? [02:32]
dub can you see the books of the waste contractors? [02:32]
smickles I wouldn't need to [02:32]
kakobrekla wait till he is cpa [02:33]
mircea_popescu lol my thoughts exactly kakobrekla [02:33]
smickles kakobrekla: :D [02:33]
mircea_popescu he's gonna find the gold my grand-grandfather hid when the turks invaded [02:33]
smickles maybe it's a tax writeoff for donating the computers [02:34]
smickles resale and donation would stop it from being classified as hazardous [02:35]
dub probalby, some carbon credits to boot [02:35]
mircea_popescu lol dub is jaded [02:35]
smickles in 'merica? not yet [02:35]
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dub it does like this, you pay Super Envirocorp Green Recycling LLC, your govt apys them, africa pays them, and they probably don't pay tax, perfect [02:36]
smickles ok, shipping computers to other countries for disposal or donation is illegal as of 1 year after those pics were taken [02:36]
smickles it seems [02:36]
dub apparently someone grew a concience [02:37]
dub how socialist of them [02:37]
smickles :( makes this last hour seem so pointless and wasteful [02:38]
dub really? I've been built a few $100k of internets while chatting [02:39]
smickles oh, sorry, you didn't spoon feed me the info, so I had to actually work at finding it [02:40]
smickles ;) [02:40]
dub free market bro, gotta do the work [02:40]
smickles i just hope my daughter survived the neglect [02:40]
mircea_popescu $100k of internets ?! where is that ? [02:41]
mircea_popescu smickles if you find her burning computer parts you know who to send the med bills to nao. [02:41]
smickles naw, just kidding, her mom was taking her for a walk [02:41]
mircea_popescu neglecting the mom seems moar dangerous [02:41]
dub about 40Gbps of access network, in a farming town [02:41]
mircea_popescu exploitation. [02:41]
dub by providing faster porn to the farmer, less animals will be abused [02:42]
mircea_popescu you're taking advantage of their backwards farmish nature [02:42]
dub in my locality anyway, that animal porn will be made offshore [02:42]
mircea_popescu to deploy your internets in less congested and thuys cheaper area [02:43]
mircea_popescu grow a conscience! no more computer donations to africans and no more internets to farming towns! [02:44]
mircea_popescu let apple make a buck. [02:44]
dub they demand faster porn, the market provides [02:44]
smickles mircea_popescu: the market demands an MPEx api call ('PROFIT|X', where X is a positive integer in satoshi) which gives me btc [02:46]
mircea_popescu go burn a keyboard [02:47]
mircea_popescu all profits are belong to ME(pex) [02:47]
smickles well, ~97% of them anyway [02:47]
dub I recycled two keyboards this week :( [02:48]
smickles I still have those old IBM clicky keyboards [02:48]
smickles let me see, it's a model M [02:49]
dub model-M? [02:49]
dub yeah, colleague near me insists on using one, annoying as hell [02:49]
dub DEPR NEED TO HEAR MY CLICKS [02:50]
dub IM A SRS ENGINEER, JUST LISTEN! [02:50]
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mircea_popescu 12 points (100% like it) 12 up votes 0 down votes [03:12]
mircea_popescu smickles m'boy you've got the perfect reddit submission. everyone likes it. [03:12]
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mircea_popescu Certified computer forensic examiner out of Austin, Texas, lawyer Craig Ball, says that authorities can use the serial numbers off of two flash drives, said to contain the tax returns, left at a political office in Williamson County. Each computer keeps a record of all external devices plugged into them. Considering how easy a task this is, one suspects that the authorities would have already completed it, either impl [04:00]
mircea_popescu icating, or not, Brown. [04:00]
mircea_popescu this is such bs. who told them what "all computers" do ffs [04:00]
dub Certified (A+, MCSE) computer exphurts [04:02]
dub especially lulzy are security certs [04:04]
mircea_popescu myah. [04:06]
coingenuity mircea_popescu: knightmb having a case built against him? [04:10]
mircea_popescu coingenuity so they say. particularly uninformed article [04:10]
mircea_popescu http://silvervigilante.com/richest-man-in-bitcoin-realm-secret-service/ [04:10]
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smickles poked above the 30 day sma again [04:14]
Diablo-D3 wow, I missed DiabloMiner's birthday [04:14]
Diablo-D3 Date: Sat Nov 6 11:16:17 2010 -0400 [04:14]
Diablo-D3 its now 2 years old [04:15]
dub the oldest turd that hasnt turned white [04:15]
mircea_popescu so how long before pretty much everyone who issed glbse shares says fuck it and moves on ? [04:20]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: some already have [04:20]
mircea_popescu i know, but i mean the general consensus. [04:20]
smickles how long has it been so far? [04:22]
smickles did that happen oct 2nd? [04:22]
Diablo-D3 yeah, its been over a month [04:22]
Diablo-D3 which like a decade in bitcoin time [04:22]
dub is the send nefario flowers thing happening? [04:23]
mircea_popescu smickles early oct is my recollection. [04:24]
mircea_popescu dub i hope it isn't for the reason that the idiots who'd do it lost all their money to scammers already and are facing deportation [04:24]
mircea_popescu to ghana. [04:24]
mircea_popescu any other reason fails to satisfy. [04:25]
dub i like it [04:25]
dub gotta be creepy getting flowers from a bunch of people that basically want your scalp [04:25]
dub its saying 'you can't hide motherfucker' [04:25]
mircea_popescu they don't want his scalp. [04:25]
mircea_popescu they don't know what the fuck they want, but it'd be something like someone telling them they're ok. [04:26]
mircea_popescu which is why the pr chick is getting on so many nerves, imho. [04:26]
smickles heh, "so how long until i can just start using this btc as my own" (from the issuer's perspective), is that what you're asking mircea_popescu ? [04:26]
mircea_popescu smickles well, not rly, seeing how the point of issuing was to get btc to use as their own [04:26]
mircea_popescu see the rsm guy for a fine illustration [04:26]
smickles ah [04:27]
mircea_popescu i was asking more along the lines of, "when will everyone be forced to put glbse shares as 0 in their books" [04:28]
mircea_popescu obviously prudence requires them do that already, but experience shows btc noobies absolutely never do it. [04:28]
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smickles https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B [04:49]
smickles just noticed this [04:49]
mircea_popescu lolk [04:52]
Diablo-D3 lol [04:52]
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smickles it's to the point where they actually have to acknowlage it and respond to it [04:53]
mod6 haha [04:54]
smickles Of course, when the marijuana one got there, the answer was so full of lies it boggled the mind [04:54]
smickles so I expect the answer will be "no, it's illegal" [04:55]
mircea_popescu illegal my foot [04:55]
smickles followed by "there is no historical precident" [04:55]
mircea_popescu texas did it before [04:55]
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mod6 yeah, texas was its own country for a period [04:56]
mod6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Texas [04:56]
smickles and "no country has ever formed by declaring independance" [04:56]
mircea_popescu ahahah [04:58]
mircea_popescu ok that'd be a good one. [04:58]
mod6 lol [04:59]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Nov 8 15:00:02 2012 [13:15]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuck you irc [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax fuckin turn off [13:16]
AwesomeToTheMax GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR [13:16]
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mircea_popescu dun dun dun [13:16]
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mircea_popescu this is funny : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123873.0 [13:18]
mircea_popescu 20-120 bitcoins in prizes, nobody replies. [13:18]
mircea_popescu if i had offered .1 btc for some stupidshit like a signature it would be FULL [13:19]
Diablo-D3 wait, what? [13:19]
Diablo-D3 what am I writing? [13:19]
mircea_popescu whatever you want. [13:19]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: what exactly is it that you want written, however? [13:21]
mircea_popescu well, you kinda have to read the article. but it's a 4-6k words fiction piece [13:22]
Diablo-D3 I did read it [13:22]
Diablo-D3 but you sort of go off on a tangent [13:22]
mircea_popescu there's three ways i can see gpg contracts going on [13:22]
mircea_popescu there could be more [13:22]
mircea_popescu either find one more, or else write out one of the three [13:22]
Diablo-D3 how about I write a story about how the rothchilds have a pgp contract with lucifer the morningstar, their god, and thus end the world [13:23]
mircea_popescu sure. [13:23]
mircea_popescu except, work it out so it fits one of teh three! [13:24]
Diablo-D3 I dont want to be assassinated :< [13:24]
mircea_popescu eh get out. [13:24]
mircea_popescu nobody's getting assasinated cause of something they wrote on the interwebs [13:26]
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Diablo-D3 but its true about them and lucifer :< [13:26]
mircea_popescu even so. [13:26]
jurov diablo, in that case, you don't have to fear anything when you get asassinated for revealing such truth [13:27]
jurov for this deed shall surely wawrd you place in God's Kingdom [13:27]
jurov ;D [13:28]
jurov *award [13:28]
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Diablo-D3 jurov: but I _am_ Lucifer :< [13:28]
Diablo-D3 dying _hurts_ [13:28]
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jurov you will, sooner or later [13:28]
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Diablo-D3 well, sometimes. I did it a few times during WW2, some of them wern't so bad. [13:29]
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Diablo-D3 but I guess it wont matter [13:29]
Diablo-D3 the world is ending soon [13:29]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I think I have a better idea, though [13:29]
Diablo-D3 a bitcoin powered ebook market. [13:30]
mircea_popescu right, because bitcoin people are this mix of 1% people who have not the time to fuck their gfs and 99% people who never had a gf [13:30]
mircea_popescu they're EXACTLY the people who read books. [13:31]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: you've never read a book while getting a blowjob? [13:31]
mircea_popescu nope. [13:31]
mircea_popescu i prefer fondling the other girl. [13:32]
mircea_popescu bah i wish cpanel would STOP CHANGING THE LOOKS OF THE WEB INTERFACE [13:32]
mircea_popescu every time i go to log in they give me a jolt. [13:32]
mircea_popescu "whoa, phishing ?!" [13:33]
mircea_popescu In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes. [13:35]
mircea_popescu ahahaha. fo reals ?! [13:35]
mircea_popescu Detroit has more registered voters than residents over 18, Census finds [13:35]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: CLEARLY THIS IS THE WORK OF OBAMA [13:36]
Diablo-D3 or something [13:36]
Diablo-D3 my faux republican rage wore out quite some time ago [13:36]
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mircea_popescu i just think it's funny how 3rd world the us is. [13:37]
Diablo-D3 there are no first world countries left [13:37]
mircea_popescu i mean, for all of the 20th century they've kept pretending and we've kept pretending like they're part of civilisation [13:37]
mircea_popescu but, really... never was the case. becomes more and more obvious. [13:37]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: well [13:37]
Diablo-D3 its up to us bitcoiners [13:37]
Diablo-D3 to create a new country [13:38]
Diablo-D3 one that preserves the rights of life, liberty, and PUSSY! [13:38]
Diablo-D3 NOW WHOS WITH ME?! [13:38]
mircea_popescu crickets. [13:38]
Diablo-D3 You're all fags, you know that. [13:38]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: did you (or she) set up the thread in the forums about what people think about your PR? [13:39]
mircea_popescu hm ? [13:39]
mircea_popescu ohio had a county where there was a 103% voter turnout [13:42]
mircea_popescu you know... this happened in a hamlet in romania last elections [13:43]
mircea_popescu those people are now spending their time between the da and the court. [13:43]
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Diablo-D3 its happened everywhere forever. [13:43]
mircea_popescu yeah. [13:44]
mircea_popescu but you gotta keep sending them to jale. [13:44]
Diablo-D3 jail [13:44]
mircea_popescu that too. [13:48]
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jurov eskimobob, go satisfy your urges there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.0 [13:57]
EskimoBob SupaDupa: wtf are you spamming? Get a life, you fkn asshole, or just hang yourself ' [13:57]
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EskimoBob jurov: what urges? [13:59]
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jurov to know what ppl think about MPOE-PR [14:00]
Guest66360 she is a whore [14:00]
EskimoBob Guest66360 is the same scumbag SupaDupa: [14:02]
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jurov eskimo, you really think they will ever start such thread? why? [14:03]
EskimoBob we really need a OP here to kick idiots like supasupa for good [14:03]
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Maxxxx you are definately suckin both my balls [14:04]
Maxxxx but maybe if you slow down I can pull one outta your mouf [14:04]
mircea_popescu am i missing something here ? [14:04]
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EskimoBob "Secession Petitions Flood White House Website" LOL http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/11/12/2113214/secession-petitions-flood-white-house-website [14:08]
AreFun since Obama is president shouldn't it be called The Half-White House? [14:10]
AreFun considering he's half black... [14:10]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [14:10]
AreFun too early for jokes? [14:10]
EskimoBob take a look at the petition site, it's really funny [14:11]
Diablo-D3 the jokes will never be funny, really [14:11]
Diablo-D3 its called the white house because of the color on the outside, not the colored on the inside [14:11]
AreFun umm [14:12]
AreFun are you saying Obama is black on the inside [14:12]
AreFun LOL! [14:12]
AreFun last time I checked your skin colour was on the fuckin outside Diablo-D3 [14:12]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gpg-contracts/#comment-90442 << how the fuck do i end up with all the crazies ? [14:12]
AreFun considering your fuckin skin colour is only visible on the outside since it's fuckin skin [14:13]
mircea_popescu this dude wants to fix bitcoin : there should be pairs of bitcoins "going in countercurrent" [14:13]
Diablo-D3 AreFun: you missed the joke. [14:13]
mircea_popescu he did say "the colored" [14:13]
AreFun I know there's a ton of grape drink in The White House now [14:13]
Diablo-D3 at least mircea_popescu got it [14:14]
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mircea_popescu that didn't last long. [14:15]
mircea_popescu what's his story anyway. [14:15]
Diablo-D3 who knows [14:16]
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mircea_popescu is this the guy who used to spam goatse re some bitcoin ransom or something like that ? [14:18]
Diablo-D3 no [14:18]
Diablo-D3 I thought it was usagi [14:18]
Diablo-D3 but usagi doesnt swear [14:18]
mircea_popescu well not in his bunny costume [14:19]
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EskimoBob this was probably supadupa, known lunatic from ltc and btc channel [14:22]
Diablo-D3 might be [14:22]
Diablo-D3 that asshole has been causing problems lately again [14:22]
EskimoBob yes. sending huge pkg as CTCP ping [14:22]
Diablo-D3 yeah, what did he think that was going to do? [14:23]
Diablo-D3 it doesnt do anything [14:23]
EskimoBob if you have a crappy line, it will drop your connection or something like that [14:24]
Diablo-D3 I have a crappy line, it does nothing. [14:24]
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EskimoBob damn James [14:26]
Diablo-D3 who? [14:27]
EskimoBob no update https://blog.glbse.com/ [14:27]
Diablo-D3 oh nefario [14:27]
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mircea_popescu maybe he didn't like the flowers. [14:41]
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Chaaang-Noi did you copy the ltc one? :) [14:47]
mircea_popescu hm ? [14:47]
Chaaang-Noi nvm [14:47]
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Chaaang-Noi what ever happened to usagi? [14:51]
Chaaang-Noi poof and he was gone? [14:51]
mircea_popescu pretty much. [14:54]
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Chaang-Noi lol, did they send nefario flowers? [14:56]
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EskimoBob Chaang-Noi: there was a plan [14:57]
EskimoBob Chaang-Noi: usagi was here yesterday but took off shortly. [14:58]
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EskimoBob Looks like he is also following me around the fkn forum like a pervert :) [14:59]
Chaang-Noi lol [15:00]
Chaang-Noi they should send nefario flowers [15:00]
Chaang-Noi its some lulz [15:00]
Chaang-Noi ill chip in [15:00]
EskimoBob Chaang-Noi: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1331773#msg1331773 [15:03]
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Chaang-Noi sadly i cant post but ill go read:) [15:06]
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Chaaang-Noi loading very slowly for me [15:06]
Chaaang-Noi ahh okay thanks :) [15:09]
Chaaang-Noi i hope it gets done, ill chip in a btc to whoever does it [15:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00050164 = 5.5682 BTC [-] [16:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 572 @ 0.0005016 = 0.2869 BTC [-] [16:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12052 @ 0.00050128 = 6.0414 BTC [-] [16:25]
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thestringpuller panic sell [16:51]
thestringpuller lol [16:51]
thestringpuller ;;calc (11.30 - 11) / 11.30 [16:52]
gribble 0.0265486725664 [16:52]
thestringpuller ;;calc (11.9 - 11) / 11.9 [16:53]
gribble 0.0756302521008 [16:53]
thestringpuller ;;calc (15 - 11) / 15 [16:53]
gribble 0.266666666667 [16:53]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.95001, Best ask: 10.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04997, Last trade: 10.99999, 24 hour volume: 20598.93273169, 24 hour low: 10.92150, 24 hour high: 11.18000, 24 hour vwap: 11.03907 [16:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9692 @ 0.0005012 = 4.8576 BTC [-] [17:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 358 @ 0.0005011 = 0.1794 BTC [-] [17:15]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I feel like option prices are correlated to the bots opinion on which way the price will swing. [17:17]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [17:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.97471, Best ask: 10.98990, Bid-ask spread: 0.01519, Last trade: 10.98990, 24 hour volume: 17626.08933055, 24 hour low: 10.92150, 24 hour high: 11.16998, 24 hour vwap: 11.03109 [17:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9819 @ 0.0005011 = 4.9203 BTC [-] [17:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37231 @ 0.0005009 = 18.649 BTC [-] [17:41]
mircea_popescu really ? [17:47]
mircea_popescu so what's the story with the bfl/other asics ? late october came and went, early november came and by now went [17:52]
mircea_popescu we're mid november... [17:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15019 @ 0.0005009 = 7.523 BTC [-] [18:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050085 = 8.7148 BTC [-] [18:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 831 @ 0.00050066 = 0.416 BTC [-] [18:06]
mircea_popescu "You never donated for the welfare of this forum. Your username is present in various ignore lists. You have no respect for Theymos neither you share any preferences with him." [18:09]
mircea_popescu hohoho this thread is turning into quite the lulzfarm [18:09]
abracadabra sounds like fpga story? [18:11]
abracadabra history does really repeat itself [18:11]
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mircea_popescu abracadabra possibly. [18:25]
mircea_popescu i do have various bets bound to make me a lot of monyz if there's no asics this year, so [18:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34600 @ 0.00050066 = 17.3228 BTC [-] [18:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4269 @ 0.00050066 = 2.1373 BTC [-] [18:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8516 @ 0.00050006 = 4.2585 BTC [-] [18:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31350 @ 0.00050115 = 15.7111 BTC [+] [19:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00050121 = 9.949 BTC [+] [19:22]
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mircea_popescu so theymos has not read the thread but has an opinion. [19:57]
mircea_popescu why is this guy even involved ? [19:57]
kuzetsa :( [19:57]
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mircea_popescu i must have missed something here. some college student. ok, so ? [19:57]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: just... like... [19:58]
kuzetsa why did you consider glbse to be shady or poorly run or whatever compared to yours? [19:58]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa that's a long list. [19:58]
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kuzetsa other than just being a competing service (which is a major reason I blindly ignored your criticism when I was actively getting myself screwed a few months ago on GLBSE) [19:59]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/security-comparison-of-bitcoin-denominated-instruments-exchanges/ [19:59]
mircea_popescu for instance. [19:59]
mircea_popescu but to try and sum up months of history : i considered it poorly run right off the bat for technical reasons. [20:00]
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mircea_popescu these involve deep issues of security from a philosophical perspective, but also simple things like, they were using google analytics on the pages ;/ [20:00]
kuzetsa ah lol yeah. I always try to make sure my session cookies end up invalid whenever I got AFK by manually logging out :) [20:00]
mircea_popescu and i considered it shady because of the behaviour re scammers. the exact sort of thing theymos is doing. [20:01]
mircea_popescu nefario supported peter lambert, theymos is supporting patrick harnett, it's all the same "buddy-buddy" bullshit. [20:01]
kakobreklaaa sup folks [20:01]
mircea_popescu this is not how people who have any business experience or any understanding of the world or intellectual maturity behave,. [20:01]
mircea_popescu this is behind-the-bleachers sort of teenage crap. [20:02]
mircea_popescu but by now i could probably write a book as to all the many countless things that were wrong with it. [20:02]
mircea_popescu heya kakobreklaaa [20:02]
kakobreklaaa how is it [20:02]
mircea_popescu same old. [20:03]
kakobreklaaa :) [20:03]
kuzetsa thanks mircea_popescu, that list was pretty exhaustive. better managed & more secure with a solid exit strategy :( [20:03]
mircea_popescu right. [20:04]
mircea_popescu and the funny thing is, people jumped all over mpex back in july cause "o, what happens if mpex goes away" [20:04]
mircea_popescu and the pr girl said AT THE TIME "now go ask glbse the same thing" [20:04]
kuzetsa heh [20:04]
mircea_popescu but people want to be dense. [20:04]
kuzetsa :/ [20:04]
mircea_popescu i can dig up the quote for you if it helps anything. [20:04]
kuzetsa yeah. assuming that genuine concern is trolling has become too common. [20:04]
mircea_popescu right. [20:05]
mircea_popescu easy cop out too. someone says something we don't understand ? THEYRE TROLLING [20:05]
mircea_popescu a la usagi. [20:05]
kuzetsa I wouldn't know [20:05]
mircea_popescu you couldn't have missed that guy's stuff, it was all over the forum at some point. [20:06]
kuzetsa out of all the bitcointalk threads, and the freenode #bitcoin-xxx? discissions I've participated, the name usagi doesn't really stand out. [20:06]
kuzetsa vaguely perhaps... I dunno. [20:07]
mircea_popescu a well, you're blessed. [20:07]
mircea_popescu ask EskimoBob lol [20:07]
kuzetsa my skills of observation / attention span & short term memory are kinda limited. chronic symptoms from acquired brain injury I got a few years ago due to hurricane katrina (2005) [20:07]
kakobreklaaa btw usagi returned day or two ago [20:08]
kuzetsa and now I live in NY, wheee! yay for sandy lolo [20:08]
mircea_popescu maybe you're attracting them [20:08]
kuzetsa yes [20:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6184 @ 0.00050006 = 3.0924 BTC [-] [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00049923 = 7.9877 BTC [-] [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27110 @ 0.00049913 = 13.5314 BTC [-] [20:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4309 @ 0.00049865 = 2.1487 BTC [-] [20:13]
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kakobreklaaa ;;bc,stats [20:32]
gribble Current Blocks: 200134 | Current Difficulty: 2864140.507811 | Next Difficulty At Block: 201599 | Next Difficulty In: 1465 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 51 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3196800.71455154 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.6146608671 [20:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00049862 = 4.0139 BTC [-] [20:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24529 @ 0.00049851 = 12.228 BTC [-] [20:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 76000 @ 0.00325 = 247 BTC [-] [20:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 119628 @ 0.00325 = 388.791 BTC [-] [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 42700 @ 0.00325 = 138.775 BTC [-] [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40539 @ 0.00049922 = 20.2379 BTC [+] [21:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11379 @ 0.00050121 = 5.7033 BTC [+] [21:06]
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thestringpuller plummet my friend [21:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9260 @ 0.00325 = 30.095 BTC [-] [21:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 32412 @ 0.00325 = 105.339 BTC [-] [21:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16852 @ 0.00049796 = 8.3916 BTC [-] [22:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15944 @ 0.00049792 = 7.9388 BTC [-] [22:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9260 @ 0.00325 = 30.095 BTC [-] [22:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 740 @ 0.00339942 = 2.5156 BTC [+] [22:48]
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mircea_popescu ;;getrating flooraccount [23:33]
gribble This user has not yet been rated. WARNING: Currently not authenticated. [23:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34450 @ 0.0004975 = 17.1389 BTC [-] [23:39]
mircea_popescu it's what it is. [23:40]
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