Forum logs for 13 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
decimation heh [00:00]
decimation they've clamped down on lending in the us [00:00]
decimation you can't get a loan unless you have %20 and good credit [00:00]
decimation at least, not a good interest rate [00:01]
cazalla quick look then shows working couple who earn 50k each can borrow almost 700k [00:02]
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cazalla over 30 years [00:02]
decimation wouldn't such a couple then be poor if they took such a 'deal'? [00:02]
decimation debt-slaves? [00:03]
cazalla mind you, that is pre-tax salary [00:03]
cazalla decimation, yeah most people are slaves.. 30 years ago it was possible for the average sole income working father, stay at home mum to buy a 1/4 acre block in the suburbs and raise 2-3 kids [00:04]
cazalla today you need both parents working full time with no kids or if you have kids, 1 or 2 at most put into childcare so the mother can pay half her wage for someone else to look after her kids while her other half goes on the mortgage [00:05]
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decimation yeah that's how it is in most of the us today too [00:05]
decimation there's no fixed supply of dollars, so more people working just means more cost [00:05]
cazalla i don't even know why they do it tbh [00:06]
decimation well, now everyone is screwed [00:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1161917 << not bad btw [00:06]
decimation in the us the effect is worsened by the fact that near most major us cities you need to have dual incomes to 'earn' a spot in a decent school [00:06]
assbot Logged on 12-06-2015 14:48:00; danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZp7UGgBR0I [00:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163037 << ayup [00:09]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 02:30:18; danielpbarron: in the future, someone can specialize each step of production [00:09]
cazalla decimation, here it is almost like every generation has to work twice as much for half of what their parents had [00:09]
decimation cazalla: I guess the most rational response would be to coordinate groups of people to move away from the dense cities and start new living areas [00:09]
danielpbarron speaking of which, is the leaky treebark flask design supposed to be blank? [00:09]
cazalla decimation, ah but there is no work in rural australia and if you are on welfare and move from an area of high employment to one of high unemployment, you get cut off [00:09]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163048 << the chinese [00:10]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 02:50:34; decimation: where does all this money come from? is it because people bid up AU$ because of the raw materials? [00:10]
mircea_popescu they have literally infinite USD [00:10]
cazalla decimation, so to go rural, you need enough money to own it upfront and enough to last you for however long you may live [00:10]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron nope. it's supposed to have been fixed like three revisions ago o.O [00:10]
cazalla decimation, and rural.. as in the middle of nowhere, you are still paying more (100k-200k) than american suburbs [00:10]
decimation cazalla: yeah I guess my point is that they could start a new city there [00:11]
decimation but it sounds like that's already been priced out [00:11]
decimation why some wasteland in australia is worth $100k... [00:11]
decimation even good farmland in iowa goes for $5k an acre [00:11]
cazalla you can go cheaper - abandoned mining towns - but then you have to deal with fucked up water and environment [00:12]
cazalla might set you back 50k for that [00:12]
decimation yeah I agree with mircea, it sounds to me that the chinese have bid australia to the moon [00:13]
cazalla yeah, they can buy citizenship here too for 5 million so those clever chinese were giving the AU gov 5 million, borrowing the 5 million back from some chinese lender and then using that to buy 5 million in property once they got here [00:14]
cazalla i'd like to think it will end soon as i don't see how people can be squeezed any further at this point but asciilifeform reminded me that there is still much fat left to be trimmed [00:15]
cazalla fwiw, missus and i have no rent or mortgage and it is still hard [00:16]
cazalla so i imagine those people with mortgages will soon eat chum (dog food) if they are not already [00:17]
decimation yeah if they aren't already [00:18]
cazalla i mean, kid my age who lived on my street regularly ate his cat's cat food [00:19]
mod6 omg and we have grub that works... [00:22]
decimation you can live on rice and beans pretty cheap [00:23]
mod6 trinque's script & help got this pos up and running on gentoo hardened w/uclibc finally. [00:23]
mod6 i had a problem with my disk paritions [00:23]
cazalla decimation, aussies like their meat, pet food or not [00:23]
* mod6 straps on a napkin and eats a sack of dead crows [00:24]
decimation better start hunting 'roos [00:24]
decimation or dingos :) [00:24]
cazalla birds might be easier tbh plus the abo word for budgerigar is good eating [00:27]
cazalla with no guns, having to spear or tackle a roo could get you killed, fucking things kick [00:27]
decimation heh oh yeah I forgot they took yer guns too [00:28]
mircea_popescu no guns in australia ? lmao [00:28]
mircea_popescu twerps, seriously. [00:29]
decimation mircea_popescu: how do you think they will be described by chinese historians 1000 years from now? [00:29]
mircea_popescu "aboriginals" [00:30]
decimation lolz [00:30]
cazalla yeah, bow and arrow ban in the pipeline too [00:30]
mircea_popescu same thing we called the papuans or w/e [00:30]
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cazalla meh, they aren't really any abos left anyway, they are all half bloods at best [00:35]
decimation no, I think mircea meant the people who are willing to trade hard assets to the chinese in exchange for paper and promises [00:36]
cazalla but even if you're 1/8 abo, you can claim extra assistance from the government, so according to the census there are more abos than ever before [00:37]
cazalla yeah stupid thing that [00:37]
decimation the natives have the same racket here, and also in canada [00:38]
asciilifeform http://nosuchlabs.com/stats << empty hopper, will refill tomorrow. anyone who wants to get phuctored in short order, plz now. [00:40]
decimation asciilifeform: interesting the 'me.com' and 'mac.com' [00:41]
asciilifeform and yes, ~500MB product. [00:41]
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asciilifeform (decimal, if feeling nitpicky) [00:42]
asciilifeform unrelated: [00:43]
asciilifeform http://downloads.cornall.co/ibm-capsense-usb-web/ibm-capsense-usb.html << anyone here own one of these ? [00:43]
asciilifeform ^ apparently 'ibm model m' was itself a cheapening of a previous ancestral tech [00:44]
decimation asciilifeform: you ever heard of a 'model f' [00:44]
decimation aha it talks about them [00:44]
asciilifeform decimation: got one [00:45]
asciilifeform decimation: but not a modernized controller for it [00:45]
asciilifeform (the one it shipped with did not emit 'break' codes) [00:45]
asciilifeform the linked www is about an earlier-still keyboard, which used capacitance-based switches [00:45]
decimation asciilifeform: this guy sells controllers http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-IBM-4704-Banking-System-Keyboard-TESTED-107-Key-Model-F-6020218-/281689692136?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41960397e8 [00:45]
asciilifeform theoretically - eternal [00:45]
assbot Original IBM 4704 Banking System Keyboard Tested 107 Key Model F 6020218 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4lly7 ) [00:45]
asciilifeform and (this is not stated, but i hypothesize) rf-quiet [00:45]
asciilifeform decimation: i don't want a usb controller... [00:46]
decimation heh I suspected no [00:46]
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decimation still you could use his mod as a starting point [00:49]
asciilifeform ars longa vita brevis (tm) (r) [00:49]
asciilifeform http://deskthority.net/wiki/Beam_spring << more [00:50]
assbot Beam spring - Deskthority wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4lPUU ) [00:50]
decimation at any rate I like that keyboard for sale, lots of reassignable keys [00:50]
decimation also model f keyboards were full "nkro" [00:50]
decimation that might affect rf quietness [00:50]
* asciilifeform never had problems with rollover [00:51]
decimation yeah it really only matters for gamers who wann mash 5 keys at once [00:51]
asciilifeform decimation: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Huge-IBM-5251-Mechanical-Beam-Spring-Keyboard-CLICKY-Display-Terminal-UK-/151686841869 << exists also on ebay. looks quite like the older of my two lispm keyboards (which did not click) [00:52]
assbot Vintage Huge IBM 5251 Mechanical Beam Spring Keyboard Clicky Display Terminal UK | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1BcBvp8 ) [00:52]
decimation heh. I wonder if that's a serial output [00:53]
asciilifeform all keyboards have 'serial' output, one way or another [00:53]
asciilifeform but afaik none spoke traditional rs232. would've involved too much active logic. [00:54]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: key pump is back on, using somewhat faster proggy [11:30]
mircea_popescu cool! [11:30]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: apparently rewrite using something other than sqlite seems inevitable. db is getting abominably slow. [11:31]
mircea_popescu heh [11:31]
mircea_popescu any idea what causes it ? the lengthy P ? [11:31]
asciilifeform nah [11:31]
asciilifeform it doesn't live in db [11:32]
asciilifeform just the overall size of the data set [11:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/1B9S7EG.txt [11:36]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvezIz ) [11:36]
mircea_popescu is sql that bad that data set size chokes it ?! [11:36]
kakobrekla whats the current size of sqlite db? [11:36]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: ~3.5G [11:36]
kakobrekla heh, put it to ram + snapshoots ? [11:37]
asciilifeform though i'm seeing conflicting info re: optimal size for these [11:37]
mircea_popescu how much ram would it eat, any idea / [11:38]
kakobrekla ~3.5G [11:38]
kakobrekla :D [11:38]
kakobrekla or dunno, dance with the devil and take the ssd :) [11:39]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: it's on a box mircea_popescu supplied, subcontracted from some orc [11:39]
asciilifeform overall pretty decent one [11:40]
asciilifeform but, afaik, no ssd [11:40]
kakobrekla lucky box isnt welded shut [11:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform dja eat the 24g or whatever it had for teh maths ? or can spare the 4g ? [11:41]
asciilifeform good deal of free mem [11:41]
asciilifeform but doing just about any of this would blow up the complexity of the thing 50x. [11:41]
asciilifeform will have to think [11:42]
mircea_popescu just set the db to ram, it has a switch [11:43]
asciilifeform this would work if i didn't have separate unix processes using it simultaneously. [11:43]
asciilifeform phuctor is really a severe abuse of 'sqlite' [11:44]
asciilifeform 'all database connections sharing the in-memory database need to be in the same process.' << from docs. [11:45]
asciilifeform (and pretty obvious) [11:45]
mircea_popescu heh myeah. [11:46]
asciilifeform 'ten pounds of shit in a two-pound bag' (tm) (r) [11:46]
mircea_popescu i don't think the bag makers can be blamed for this one [11:47]
* asciilifeform didn't blame the bag-makers [11:47]
* asciilifeform will have to stitch a new bag [11:47]
kakobrekla would moving the file to ramdisk make a diff? [11:47]
kakobrekla and using non in-memory db [11:47]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: doubtful. kernel is already caching disk [11:47]
asciilifeform plus i'd have to persist the thing -somehow- [11:48]
mircea_popescu does it cache it enough tho [11:48]
asciilifeform ipso facto not enough [11:48]
mircea_popescu so then does it have a knob [11:48]
mircea_popescu $ sudo sig-cache-more-plox kernel [11:49]
mircea_popescu you know templeos is only a step in that direction, i'd like to see unix skinned by valley girls, upper east side hipsters, mexicans, etc. [11:50]
asciilifeform there are knobs but, iirc, turning them risks data loss. [11:50]
mircea_popescu $ like totally what's even here ? [11:50]
asciilifeform templeos isn't a unix [11:50]
mircea_popescu i didn't say it was! [11:50]
asciilifeform not sure what 'skinned' is then [11:51]
mircea_popescu not more than you blamed the bag makers, at any rate [11:51]
asciilifeform lol [11:52]
mircea_popescu hehe [11:52]
asciilifeform http://www.linuxatemyram.com/play.html << good intro to subject [11:54]
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asciilifeform in other news, there are giant wasps living in one of my walls. [12:24]
mircea_popescu spiders and all ? [12:25]
asciilifeform no idea what others. but the wasps are audible. [12:25]
asciilifeform ^ this is a known problem in this part of the world. once there was even a colony infesting side mirror of my brother's car. it was actually nifty, he could pull the mirror adjustment joystick and release swarm at passing cyclists [12:26]
mircea_popescu lmao [12:30]
mircea_popescu i'd like a brother like that. [12:30]
asciilifeform iirc mircea_popescu has sister ? [12:31]
mircea_popescu i do. [12:31]
mircea_popescu she just got married, actually. [12:31]
asciilifeform anything notable about the marriage ? [12:31]
mircea_popescu nope [12:32]
* asciilifeform wonders what lives in BingoBoingo's mega-car [12:33]
asciilifeform or pete_dushenski's [12:34]
mircea_popescu ah, that's easy. dead hookers. [12:34]
asciilifeform every car owner knows of animals 'preyed on' by the machines, but not always about the... revenge. there are beasts here, for instance (iirc groundhogs) which will chew through brake lines and coolant hoses [12:36]
asciilifeform like the famous rats of stalingrad, which chewed through delicious electrical cables, taking out tank turret rotators [12:36]
asciilifeform (by some accounts, only one side had 'tasty' cable insulation. but -which- side - varies) [12:37]
mircea_popescu heh [12:39]
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menahem hey mircea_popescu, what is your backup plan? in the event someone like the USG ..tries.. to pwn you? mpex, coins, etc? [12:56]
mircea_popescu oh, in the event it ~tries~ ? [12:56]
mircea_popescu blog about it. haven't you noticed ? [12:56]
asciilifeform http://i.imgur.com/TLvwKz1.png << mysterious object i saw in a movie. wonder if mircea_popescu can identify. [12:57]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPLVwl ) [12:57]
asciilifeform 'tineye' finds nothing, 'google images' finds toilets [12:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00038517 = 1.9259 BTC [+] [13:00]
mircea_popescu something photographed with a potato ? [13:01]
asciilifeform mno [13:01]
mircea_popescu cunt massager ? [13:01]
mats s.mpoe sleeps [13:01]
asciilifeform object sorta resembled the hypothetical device from old thread: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-10-2014#896738 [13:01]
assbot Logged on 26-10-2014 05:49:56; mircea_popescu: i suppose that's the ultimate girl toilet, what is all this "lift the seat, lower the seat" bs. [13:02]
mircea_popescu why do you suspect that ? [13:02]
menahem ya, I have. mostly I guess in the event of physical illness.. an heir of sorts ? [13:02]
mircea_popescu i'm not even 40. [13:02]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only suspected from the geometry. it's more or less exactly like i imagined it would look like. [13:03]
mircea_popescu and i intend to withdraw long before advanced age makes the crown too heavy to carry. i have a fucking life to live outside of public service. [13:03]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform nah because the receptacle appears rigid. girls pee at many angles. [13:03]
menahem lol [13:03]
menahem sznipers, chemical concoctions, etc. [13:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: believe or not, i once read a (ru) ph.d. dissertation on this subject. [13:04]
asciilifeform (re: anatomical variations and consequences thereof. based on thousands of hours of 'wild' pr0n from various nations) [13:04]
mircea_popescu menahem what you don't likely know is that i lived a decade and change of my life previously also with people tastiung my food etc. [13:04]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform seems reasonable >D [13:05]
menahem in other words, you've mentally hard wired protections for yourself ? [13:06]
mats lol [13:06]
mircea_popescu in any case, how did that quote go, "i bequeath [13:06]
mircea_popescu bequeath “my sword to him that shall succeed me in my pilgrimage, and my courage and skill to him that can get it.” [13:07]
asciilifeform convo with pet: 'her: why have you not opened mircea_popescu's champagne? me: it is for victory. her: and if you are defeated: me: enemy can drink it then' [13:08]
kakobrekla lol [13:09]
kakobrekla !b 2 [13:09]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/38D9CX6.txt ) [13:09]
mircea_popescu eh you should drink it. for one thing, there's more for victory, and for another bottled champagne doens't keep forever. [13:09]
kakobrekla ill remove my line, dun worry. [13:09]
asciilifeform gotta go to victory soon, then, eh [13:09]
kakobrekla how long does the bottle last anyway? [13:10]
mircea_popescu a few years [13:10]
menahem it's well on its way, from what i gather. [13:10]
mircea_popescu it becomes more and more sec as the time goes by [13:10]
kakobrekla so the SEC will get sec wine, no problemos. [13:12]
mircea_popescu if they don't mind it yellow. [13:14]
Naphex https://xotika.tv/#/channel-6/DiamondMaria enjoy bros :p [13:15]
assbot XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C4FUoZ ) [13:15]
Naphex still fixing shitload of ui javascript issuess [13:15]
Naphex but there we go [13:15]
fluffypony Naphex: saw it announced on Reddit, well done [13:15]
Naphex fluffypony: thanks man [13:16]
* mircea_popescu fires up a normal browser [13:16]
fluffypony ZOMG IT DOESN'T WORK IN LYNX [13:17]
fluffypony :- [13:17]
fluffypony p [13:17]
fluffypony ffs. [13:17]
Naphex mircea_popescu: javascript and flash required so fire up the lowly ones:P [13:17]
fluffypony for that sort of thing it is nice that Chrome has Flash baked in [13:17]
mircea_popescu fluffypony do not hate me because i am lithe! [13:17]
fluffypony but how will you browse without JavaScript animationzzzzz [13:18]
Naphex fluffypony: no idea :)) [13:18]
Naphex so much to debug in angularjs [13:18]
fluffypony I have a love/hate relationship with Angular [13:19]
fluffypony it does so much that is awesome [13:19]
fluffypony but then...you know...JavaScript [13:19]
Naphex oh man... javascript [13:19]
fluffypony most depressing language [13:19]
mircea_popescu Naphex well everything loads but no video plays, dunno if there was supposed to play anything [13:20]
mircea_popescu nice clean look tho [13:20]
Naphex mircea_popescu: the first link went in pause try the browse channel [13:21]
Naphex mircea_popescu: https://xotika.tv/#/channel-19/Sonia [13:21]
assbot XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPNPNy ) [13:21]
mircea_popescu ah kk [13:21]
Naphex mircea_popescu: a lot more to clean up and annoying js bugs around but yeha went fine:D [13:21]
mircea_popescu well browse's broken on this browser, no doubt on account of it being prolly too old. anyway. [13:22]
Naphex mircea_popescu: try chrome, only tested in chrome atm [13:23]
Naphex firefox blows up [13:23]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron bingoboingo an' any other b-a single gentlemen - if you want to try this out ima give you a bitcent to tip the chciks and then you can pester naphex with how broken it is. dump addies. [13:23]
danielpbarron unsafe:bitcoin:1FuKNdUgR1ytXnVNAiXCYS7whP99e2vj43?label=XotikaTV [13:30]
danielpbarron https://medium.com/bitcoin-think/the-bitcoin-gauntlet-e9e721297aca << starts off with a link and quote from trilema [13:30]
scoopbot_revived The Birdcage http://trilema.com/2015/the-birdcage/ [13:30]
assbot The Bitcoin Gauntlet — Bitcoin Think — Medium ... ( http://bit.ly/1JPOCxN ) [13:30]
Naphex btw, i'm hiring angular/javascript coders for the frontend. if anyone interested shoot me a /m [13:32]
Naphex payments in bitcoin, ofc [13:32]
danielpbarron >> Ultimately this is yet another reason why Bitcoin is not money; it is something that is collectively controlled by consensus, unlike money which is accepted by consensus. In any new definition of money there should be a clause saying that its nature is independent of anyone's opinion or act. [13:37]
mircea_popescu heh [13:37]
mircea_popescu bring back plato [13:37]
mxtm lol [13:37]
mxtm that's hilarious [13:37]
mircea_popescu somebody didn't go to school. [13:37]
mircea_popescu Essentially, “Megablock Bitcoin” will be exactly like the Apple App Store. <<< mmmm yeah. [13:40]
mircea_popescu anyway, guy gets it. [13:42]
danielpbarron https://medium.com/@allenpiscitello/what-is-bitcoin-s-value-proposition-b7309be442e3 << this guy also gets it [13:46]
danielpbarron >> This is in large part due to a nostalgia for the Bitcoin of the past. As Bitcoin grows, we cannot guarantee which parts of the accidental benefits will still be present. However, the fundamental properties must remain. Without it, Bitcoin offers nothing that isn't already offered. [13:46]
mircea_popescu cool. [13:47]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: footnote 2 is a winner [13:51]
mircea_popescu aha [13:51]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-11-2014#922121 << related [13:52]
assbot Logged on 14-11-2014 21:29:47; asciilifeform: the idea in the article can (and has) been rephrased like this. if you remove all the 'suggestively-named strings' like 'understand' - and replace with 'gensyms' - e.g., 100324 - does the resulting machine still do or even appear to do anything of interest? [13:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3510 @ 0.00038168 = 1.3397 BTC [-] [13:52]
mircea_popescu exactly that. [13:55]
mircea_popescu to be perfectly fair, in the same session i also explained my view on cheating on university examinations, [13:56]
mircea_popescu specifically that it is not merely cheating to be given in advance the questions which will constitute the exam (which, to my undying amazement, i found out is by now actually standard practice in the us), but even to be given any sort of selected reading material that contains a larger density of answers than the average for the entire world text. [13:57]
mircea_popescu usually known as "course material", ie, "these few pageswhich if you read, you should be able to answer anything" [13:57]
mircea_popescu fuck that stupid shit. go read. [13:57]
asciilifeform sorta reminds me of how i, as a boy, saw a brass band, and asked my father why they don't simply connect a compressor to the tuba and avoid the strain. and answered 'from this, just one step to dispensing with the tubist entirely'. and hence just the same here, from this just one small step to asking 'why even do this university thing' [13:59]
mircea_popescu no. [14:00]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729349 << obligatory mark tarver thread [14:00]
assbot Logged on 23-06-2014 00:11:01; mircea_popescu: After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. [14:00]
mircea_popescu university is important because the close physical proximity is a requisite for fucking in retards, and students are yet retarded [14:00]
asciilifeform thought that's what grade school was for [14:01]
mircea_popescu do you mean grad school or pre-highschool ? [14:02]
asciilifeform (2) [14:02]
mircea_popescu i doubt 14yo boys are sexually mature enough really. [14:02]
asciilifeform 'fucking in' << interesting term [14:02]
asciilifeform who gets 'fucked in' at university, and how ? [14:04]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, "fucking in retards", like "reproduction in mammals" [14:12]
mircea_popescu in [14:12]
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asciilifeform ah [14:12]
asciilifeform the non-retarded can fuck over telegraph ? [14:13]
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mircea_popescu well think, they can afford to fly. [14:14]
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mircea_popescu but that said, the wot model does dispense with most of the previous advantages of university [14:17]
mircea_popescu so no, i don't see any sort of future for that model, which is EXACTLY why i pointed out to tim whatshisname that either he gets with the program or he goes live in the sewer. [14:17]
asciilifeform uni is really two (conflicting) beasts in one [14:18]
asciilifeform the adult camp, where various (presently, usg-ized to the point of utter inefficacy) folks play with electron microscope, etc [14:19]
asciilifeform and the kidz camp [14:19]
asciilifeform we don't actually have a replacement for the former, to pick off the shelf and screw in. [14:20]
mircea_popescu yes, we do. ideally you should have sharing. [14:20]
mircea_popescu like, you knock off to decimation and two friends over gossipd "can you ploxpoint your microtelescope at the x y z and send me the dump ?" [14:20]
mircea_popescu and they do it or not and there you go. [14:20]
asciilifeform aha but this requires a chum with access. [14:21]
asciilifeform this is how it is done today. and the chum 100% works in academitardia. [14:21]
asciilifeform (or he doesn't, and no microscope) [14:21]
asciilifeform see how it worked for schwartz [14:22]
asciilifeform he just wanted to borrow one piddling little torsion balance, aha. [14:22]
mircea_popescu he had no wot. [14:23]
asciilifeform this is not a defense of the 'old model', but merely pointing out that 1) it is dead, yes 2) we have no replacement for it, not even in the sense that a horse can replace a broken-down motorcycle [14:23]
asciilifeform we mostly have a broken motorbike and making 'zoom, zoom' sounds [14:24]
mircea_popescu so if i want a 3d printed item, which university i call ? [14:25]
asciilifeform bad example [14:25]
mircea_popescu you will notice that the capital base of the oldmodel is dying into irreelvancy [14:25]
asciilifeform 'printer' costs less than laptop [14:26]
mircea_popescu no, it's a great example, for this reason. [14:26]
asciilifeform there is ~no~ 'common man's' electron microscope [14:26]
asciilifeform nor, for fundamental physical reasons, is there likely to be [14:26]
mircea_popescu the middle of electron microscopes is thinning out. [14:26]
asciilifeform hence why i use this item as example [14:26]
mircea_popescu research either happens on 500 dollar 3d printers, or else on 500 trillion hadron colliders [14:26]
mircea_popescu thgere's going to be one of the latter and an infinity of the former. [14:27]
mircea_popescu and there's likely going ot be 0 of the middle. [14:27]
asciilifeform most practical work in experimental-anything actually happens on the 'middle' (as in, 'more than a car, less than a house' (tm) machinery) [14:27]
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mircea_popescu yet. [14:28]
mircea_popescu most by headcount, least by value anyway [14:28]
asciilifeform better example of 'middle'. my local uni has a 1980s-style ic fab. just sitting there. [14:28]
mircea_popescu this is kind-of why it's so damned important we start making right things [14:29]
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asciilifeform it isn't a '500 trillion collider' but definitely more than '500 printer' [14:29]
mircea_popescu it is perhaps the last diamond train to do so. [14:29]
mircea_popescu last one. [14:29]
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asciilifeform ? [14:30]
mircea_popescu if you need anything that has to be made on something in the middle, make it now. [14:31]
mircea_popescu because it's unlikely you'll be able to in the future. [14:31]
asciilifeform ah, that. [14:31]
mircea_popescu just like if you wanted a good plate mail, have it made in 1650. [14:31]
asciilifeform obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/02/industrys-parting-gifts.html [14:31]
assbot ClubOrlov: Industry's Parting Gifts [14:31]
asciilifeform the 'unlikely in the future' thing is why i view the present situation as a dire one. at present, 'we' don't have access to any of these things. [14:33]
mircea_popescu anyway, ftr : i don't expect the electric grid will cease to exist. [14:33]
asciilifeform (speaking only for self, sure) [14:34]
mircea_popescu i do expect the poor will stop having sewage. [14:34]
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mircea_popescu i suppose a version of the above "make it now" is what drives your hoarding behaviour [14:36]
asciilifeform aha. [14:36]
asciilifeform sometimes, literally (i'm getting a crate of east german z80 in the post a month or so from now) [14:37]
mircea_popescu heh [14:37]
asciilifeform and more than a handful of 'cosmac's [14:37]
asciilifeform not like they take up much space. [14:37]
mircea_popescu lol [14:38]
* mircea_popescu despairs of ever moving alf anywhere. [14:39]
asciilifeform l0l [14:39]
asciilifeform everything 'archaeological' i have could probably fit in a small car boot. [14:39]
asciilifeform everything else is a 'middle'. [14:40]
mircea_popescu you know, YOU should probably start a harem [14:40]
mircea_popescu it can be purely platonic, "you may touch the instruments" thing [14:40]
asciilifeform 'outpatient' harem ? [14:41]
mircea_popescu alf & pet's magical hardware emporium. [14:41]
mircea_popescu for my curiosity, you ever computed aggregate monthly utilisation of your capital goods ? [14:41]
* asciilifeform wonders in what part of the world gurlz are into archaeohardware [14:42]
mircea_popescu there's billions of them, and they are very educable. [14:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: good question. do you remember what u. eco said when asked how many of the books in his library he has read ? [14:42]
asciilifeform (iirc it was 'if i had read them, why would i park them in my shelf') [14:42]
mircea_popescu thinkaboutit [14:43]
* asciilifeform if knew how to program gurlz, would be doing it now, rather than writing a list of items to fetch from maths lib. before it closes for the night [14:44]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163165 << lollercaust from coast to coast. [14:48]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 05:37:45; cazalla: looking like ethereum is imploding.. who could've known.. oh btw investors are now donors lol https://standardcrypto.wordpress.com/2015/06/13/ethereum-deputy-calls-investors-donors-in-leaked-skype-chat/ [14:48]
mircea_popescu and obviously mike & gavincoin's dog and pony show have yet to address the fact that "hey, we are ehtereum 2.0, we have the support of "investors" and so on" [14:49]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163199 << the limit is not the engine but the graphics work. so far realtively little of that done. [14:50]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 06:56:20; punkman: Eulora would work nice as a MUD [14:50]
danielpbarron http://kaykurokawa.blogspot.com/2015/06/front-running-decentralized-exchanges.html >> But they are wrong because a centralized exchange faces serious damage in its reputation and business if it is revealed that they are front running. Bitcoin hard liners will scoff at this idea but believe it or not, some systems work fine based on reputation and trust. [14:56]
assbot kaykurokawa: Front running Decentralized Exchanges: The problem with Augur, Bitshares, Nxt, and Counterparty ... ( http://bit.ly/1QvEwaQ ) [14:56]
danielpbarron found this while researching why XCP went up 30% over the last few days [14:56]
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danielpbarron http://shitco.in/2015/06/13/life-is-a-pump-and-dump-front-run-the-xcp-pump/ << ah, this explains why [15:09]
assbot shitco.in | Life Is A Pump And Dump, Front Run The XCP Pump ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5NfK4 ) [15:09]
danielpbarron >> Disclaimer: We are long XCP. While everyone was out chasing unicorn dust in alts, we have been accumulating XCP, bitchez. [15:09]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron "bitcoin hardliners" is becoming the #1 strawman. #shitlibertardssay [15:22]
mircea_popescu the opinions about the Mysts of Mystery emitted by fans of the power rangers and co. [15:23]
danielpbarron http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1162961 << my laptop's b key has finally stopped working after years of the 'key' not actually being attached (the rubber bulb still worked) [15:28]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 01:27:23; asciilifeform: today's disposables have no springs, only rubber bulbs (molded into a sheet) [15:28]
danielpbarron I now have to use a full size keyboard plugged into my laptop; thing might as well be a desktop now especially since wifi hasn't worked ever since I switched from ubuntu to gentoo [15:28]
danielpbarron it's surprising how many sentences I can type without access to the letter 'b' but ultimately I end up needing it quite a bit (barron, bitcoin, bible) [15:30]
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mircea_popescu you could map it... [15:33]
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kakobrekla or just use 'lorrd', 'nonscamcoin', and 'the fairy tale' instead. [15:41]
mircea_popescu llol [15:46]
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asciilifeform danielpbarron: what laptop is it you have where you can't find a new kbd on, e.g., 'ebay' ? a 'tadpole' ?! [16:05]
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danielpbarron i haven't looked [16:11]
trinque danielpbarron: to the xmodmap with ye [16:11]
danielpbarron it didn't occur to me to even try replacing a keyboard on a laptop [16:11]
* danielpbarron is ok with occasionally reaching to the floor to press the 'b' key [16:11]
asciilifeform '-- my tyre has a nail in it. car won't go straight. -- have you tried finding a swap? -- haven't looked' [16:11]
asciilifeform danielpbarron: generally, i won't even keep a laptop in the house unless i have several 'organ donors' for it [16:12]
kakobrekla same here [16:12]
* danielpbarron takes notes [16:13]
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asciilifeform in other 'news,' [16:22]
asciilifeform http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/_niece/3991032/81266/81266_original.jpg << empress maria theresa whipping her childrenz. [16:22]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Baqxkj ) [16:22]
asciilifeform ('national museum,' warsaw) [16:22]
mod6 <+danielpbarron> it's surprising how many sentences I can type without access to the letter 'b' but ultimately I end up needing it quite a bit (barron, bitcoin, bible) << reminds me of my broken 'O' key on my asus laptop these guys saw at c3. i still havent fixed it. haha. [16:23]
asciilifeform what other kinds of broken everyday objects do you folks put up with ? [16:23]
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asciilifeform how many three-legged tables, chairs ? [16:23]
* asciilifeform mildly horrified [16:24]
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mod6 i have a $100 car that the drivers side window doesn't roll down, and the passenger side doesn't roll up. no rear view mirror (it fell off) and the side mirror is taped on with Ninja Turtle ductape. [16:24]
mod6 (it's like -25 F sometimes here in the winter. try driving down the freeway with that!) [16:24]
mod6 but the idea here is that i put no $ into it, and when the wheels fall off, i'll pitch the keys on the seat and go find another. [16:25]
asciilifeform mod6: you can get schematics and parts list for just about any car on ru warez [16:25]
mod6 *nod* i went so long without a car, it's hard for me to spend any money on that stuff at all. if i could still get away with not having one, i would. [16:28]
mod6 speaking of which... i think i've got one wheelbearing that's about to sieze [16:32]
mod6 sounds horrible. lol [16:32]
mod6 i used to wrench on stuff a lot myself, but now (last ~15 years) have no time. too much comp stuff to work on. [16:33]
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mod6 my old man would be horrified that i don't fix the shit on my car. he was a "car guy". used to wrench on stuff, build his own racecars, was an expert mechanic. [16:34]
mod6 but w/e. [16:34]
trinque pain in the ass to work on cars if you don't have the right garage setup to do it [16:35]
mod6 that's about 75% of the battle yes. tools + place to work on the stuff. [16:35]
trinque I still change my oil in the apt parking lot, but wouldn't bother with much more than that [16:35]
mod6 i haven't changed the oil on this pos since i bought it. but then again, i've only put on like 2800 miles. [16:36]
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mod6 i don't drive very much, and if i do, it's not very far. [16:36]
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mod6 i guess i did throw in a quart once. but that doesn't count. sob is probably dying to have the filter & oil changed. [16:37]
trinque haha [16:37]
trinque making oil candles in there [16:37]
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mod6 yeah, it's not good. its a 2000 oldsmobile. [16:38]
mod6 rust all over. [16:38]
mod6 i actually got a decent deal on it for $100, it would probably be $1000 if i bought it from a used car lot or something. bought it from a friend. [16:38]
mod6 the car we saw in .ar with the clubs, that's probably a $3 car. lol [16:38]
mod6 damn thing probably runs tho. *shrug* [16:39]
trinque I once sold a car for $125, was probably in way worse shape than yours [16:39]
trinque 87 300zx with about 250k on it [16:39]
mod6 hshaha [16:39]
trinque exhaust pipe rusted off [16:39]
mod6 nice. [16:39]
trinque I still drove it at that point [16:40]
trinque bumper started melting lol [16:40]
mod6 hahah, that's awesome. [16:40]
trinque slammed bad going 1st-2nd-3rd [16:40]
trinque interior was leather at one point [16:41]
mod6 i just can't figure it out why someone would want to pay $300/mo for 6-7 years on a car loan for something "new" or "reasonable" [16:41]
trinque but then... dust [16:41]
trinque lol [16:41]
trinque mod6: it's a scam [16:41]
trinque I'll drive my current vw til it catches fire [16:41]
mod6 haha, man old worn leather does not hold up good. i know what you mean. [16:41]
mod6 tranny was bad too 'eh [16:41]
trinque yup [16:42]
trinque had a lot of fun in that car though, got it at 16 [16:42]
mod6 i once had an 1983 pontiac perrisan station wagon. it had 300`000 miles on it. got it for $750. it always made me laugh because when i shut it off, it would keep knocking for like ~20 seconds. then backfire super loud. [16:42]
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trinque haha, settle down grandpa [16:43]
trinque *car goes to sleep* [16:43]
mod6 yah srsly. it was a 9 passenger vehicle. [16:43]
mod6 i looked idiotic driving it around, im sure. [16:43]
mod6 but that was back in the day where cars were still made with full steel frames. thing weighed 4000 lbs. [16:44]
* mircea_popescu fondly remembers his two ton mercedeses [16:44]
mod6 had a chev 305 in it. ran pretty nice. [16:44]
trinque in the good old days, *you* were the crumple-zone [16:44]
mod6 haha, yes [16:45]
danielpbarron asciilifeform> what other kinds of broken everyday objects do you folks put up with ? << my (**picks up keyboard**) bicycle's breaks are shot and the gear shifter is sketchy [16:46]
danielpbarron t-shirts have holes in them, iphone won't charge unless i rubber band the cable into the right position, etc.. [16:47]
mod6 my old man had one of the 1983 mercedes 380SLs.. but yeah i don't think it weighed nearly as much as those bigger frame ones like yours (MP) or Pete D's. [16:47]
danielpbarron tea kettle's pin that the valve pivots on is loose and falling out [16:48]
mod6 well, and that thing was a convert too.. so, obv less weight there. [16:49]
mod6 heh, it shipped with .de license plates [16:49]
mod6 sweet, kernel is done [16:50]
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mod6 this pos box, i can hear the disk spining. "GRRRR GRRRR GRR GGRRRRRRR" [16:52]
mod6 smh [16:52]
mod6 i paid more for this pos then the damn car. [16:53]
mod6 ok here we go... [16:58]
mod6 grub works. [16:58]
mod6 ok all gravy. [16:58]
mod6 $conference [17:02]
mod6 !conference [17:03]
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mod6 derp *wanders [17:35]
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cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163496 <<< it's still way off its highs of $8-9 when it claimed it could now do whatever ethereum is planning to do [18:09]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 17:52:56; danielpbarron: found this while researching why XCP went up 30% over the last few days [18:09]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163461 <<< this orlov guy.. i've enjoyed reading some of his stuff but i can't figure out what sort of man buys a boat but does not have funds tucked away for upkeep/maintenance or new engine [18:14]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 17:28:03; asciilifeform: obligatory: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2010/02/industrys-parting-gifts.html [18:14]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163555 <<< how does this shit pass rego or do you not have yearly rego checks on the car? [18:24]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 19:35:58; trinque: exhaust pipe rusted off [18:24]
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kakobrekla should have got a golf. [18:53]
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kakobrekla i paid more bitcoins than you euros for mine tho. [18:58]
kalki thanks... ok so in attempting to set up my first gpg account, I am following the guide from contravex... so I am using the 5 dice coupled with the englich passphrase word list. So, I did 10 tosses, got the words, but then after entering, the gpg client tells me it is a weak pw as it contains no special characters. I read somewhere on Trilema not to change ANYTHING from what I get from the dice toss... so just seeking some soun [19:03]
kalki thanks! [19:03]
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funkenstein_ kalki, which gpg client? [19:07]
kalki also, I am noticing that when I log in to #bitcoin-assets, just before it transports me to the room, it says at the bottom of the screen that this nickname is already taken and that I should verify ownership or something... I assume this means that I need to find a new nickname and that it is not talking about me just because I have been using it a couple months here.. [19:07]
kalki funkenstein, it is the latest mac client 2015.06 [19:08]
funkenstein_ http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [19:08]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5SsCt ) [19:08]
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funkenstein_ i don't mac, but methinks you can add a couple special chars without losing entropy [19:11]
kalki funkenstein, the wiki says for WOT that I should generate a gpg if I dont already have one... so do folks typically use just one key? or is it smart to have a seperate one for WOT distinct from communication etc? [19:14]
kalki also thanks for your help! [19:14]
funkenstein_ no prob :) I have only one, it's easier that way. But if you want another distinct identity you can make as many as you want. [19:15]
kalki jurov, funkenstein, ok and thanks again I shall proceed [19:15]
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pete_dushenski kalki: don't worry too much about the 'advice' of the newest mac pgp client [19:19]
pete_dushenski it's designed to be 'user-friendly' for fiatheads who typically use the same password everywhere [19:19]
pete_dushenski not that you can't add a few symbols or make the second-last letter of every diceware word a capital if you so desire [19:20]
kalki ok well I just subbed 2 special characters and then generated... it happened really fast... I thought it was supposed to take quite a bit of time but it appears to have generated in less than 5 seconds...? [19:22]
pete_dushenski i haven't used the newest mac version, but it doesn't usually take that long [19:24]
pete_dushenski not to worry [19:24]
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pete_dushenski also depends on the size of the key you're generating [19:26]
pete_dushenski and the machine you're using. [19:26]
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pete_dushenski just looking at 'gpg suits 2015.06' update and it actually adds some sensible improvements to the default settings [19:28]
pete_dushenski 1) gpg version omitted, 2) revocation certification auto-generated, 3) auto-encrypt drafts, 4) warning message for idiots like travis patron that they're about to send an unencrypted reply to an encrypted message [19:30]
pete_dushenski 5) removed 1024 bit key option [19:32]
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pete_dushenski for ethereum posterity : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-20369 [19:36]
assbot A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum's Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JQxmsc ) [19:36]
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cazalla they tried their best pete_dushenski, is that not good enough for you?! [19:49]
punkman my favourite words from the ethereum transcript: "strategic visioning" [19:49]
pete_dushenski cazalla: lol i guess i'm one of those unreasonable assholes who doesn't understand how the world works [19:50]
cazalla oh god https://twitter.com/Blockchain_Memo/status/607955408360218624 [19:50]
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pete_dushenski punkman: it's the kind of thing readily accomplished while sitting on the toilet [19:52]
pete_dushenski thus making it... accessible. [19:52]
pete_dushenski "strategic visioning" doesn't require that anything even be written down [19:53]
pete_dushenski it's more of a sense of things to come, a feeling of how valhalla might look [19:54]
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punkman "when I was at Visa, I was leading an R&D group on Machine Learning that was experimenting with Hadoop for near real-time analytics of purchases. anyway we worked a year on that thing, and it was awesome, but one day we get invited by another group at Visa who want to show us something ‘amazing'." [19:59]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:59]
punkman "turns out my team and theirs had been working on the same thing and we didn’t even know about each other." [19:59]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell bingoboingo that 'reddit outrage' piece is impossible to read dude. breaking start-up/startup into two words might give you two s.qntr shares but it makes shit unreadable and frankly a bit annoying. tighten it up, smarten it up, eh. [20:01]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:01]
assbot AZIS - Hop / АЗИС - Хоп - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1G2RYYS ) [20:11]
punkman we've done azis before [20:12]
cazalla damn, that is faggy [20:13]
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kakobrekla and also, i recently trashed about 5 floppy drives, prolly all in working condition. [22:25]
asciilifeform why trashed [22:26]
kakobrekla if i keep everything that comes through my hands i will suffocate [22:26]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: gonna end up like me, i had to buy a brand-new one last week [22:27]
asciilifeform (yes you can still get them) [22:27]
kakobrekla maybe : [22:27]
asciilifeform because had precisely one in my stash remaining, and it (literally) smoked [22:27]
kakobrekla but i dont have a cdrom in any computer either [22:27]
kakobrekla perhaps i could do w/o usb as well [22:28]
asciilifeform to be clear, this was not going in my proper computer [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19656 @ 0.00040159 = 7.8937 BTC [-] {3} [22:39]
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HeySteve hello. kakobrekla, I wanted to speak to you about a trivia bot [22:48]
kakobrekla theres hundreds of trivia bots out there [22:49]
HeySteve yes, I was thinking trivia contests - maybe for BTC - would be fun [22:50]
mircea_popescu dja got btc to burn ? [22:51]
HeySteve nope, was thinking it might bring some in [22:51]
HeySteve entrance fees to the quiz, winner gets 90% of the fees, something like that [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33601 @ 0.00039769 = 13.3628 BTC [-] {2} [22:52]
HeySteve would need to pay people to research fresh questions too [22:52]
mircea_popescu copypaste btw, say when you're around. [22:53]
HeySteve would be ideal if a bot could be modded to hold and award the prize money [23:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163620 << the idea was to not change the words, as in "these five came out but i'ma use these other five instead because htey're eaiser to remember" [23:04]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 21:59:34; kalki: thanks... ok so in attempting to set up my first gpg account, I am following the guide from contravex... so I am using the 5 dice coupled with the englich passphrase word list. So, I did 10 tosses, got the words, but then after entering, the gpg client tells me it is a weak pw as it contains no special characters. I read somewhere on Trilema not to change ANYTHING from what I get from the dice [23:04]
mircea_popescu that aside, adding a curly bracket at the end or something doesn't hurt anything [23:05]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163637 << that's definitely junk [23:06]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 22:18:10; kalki: ok well I just subbed 2 special characters and then generated... it happened really fast... I thought it was supposed to take quite a bit of time but it appears to have generated in less than 5 seconds...? [23:06]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163646 << i kinda lolled. [23:07]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 22:32:08; pete_dushenski: for ethereum posterity : http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-20369 [23:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-06-2015#1163651 << this stupid shit makes it even better. [23:08]
assbot Logged on 13-06-2015 22:47:02; cazalla: oh god https://twitter.com/Blockchain_Memo/status/607955408360218624 [23:08]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-06-2015#1163684 << similar experiences. floppies fucking sucked. [23:11]
assbot Logged on 14-06-2015 01:16:01; kakobrekla: meh i recall 'burning' a game at friends house to ~20 floppies, only to find ~5 not working when arrived home. [23:11]
asciilifeform might have a survivor-bias thing going here [23:11]
mircea_popescu but also very variant. i had one that was good for hundreds of rewrites over a year [23:11]
mircea_popescu i had a batch of 100 out of which 30 died the first write [23:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite possible. [23:11]
* mircea_popescu had a complete lotus 1-2-3 and novell netware ~suites~, hundreds of 1.2mb floppies in 50 item boxes, shelves of the shit [23:12]
asciilifeform 1.2? [23:13]
mircea_popescu i think it was 3.11 [23:14]
scoopbot_revived Eulora update http://trilema.com/2015/eulora-update/ [23:14]
mircea_popescu ah, yes, 1,2mb [23:15]
mircea_popescu how much were yours ? 720 ? [23:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16950 @ 0.00037652 = 6.382 BTC [-] {3} [23:16]
mats it falls [23:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15751 @ 0.00037426 = 5.895 BTC [-] [23:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 1.44 like normal people [23:33]
asciilifeform (and a few 720k) [23:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6949 @ 0.0003735 = 2.5955 BTC [-] [23:33]
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