Forum logs for 12 May 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01469 = 0.1175 BTC [-] [00:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01468 = 0.2936 BTC [-] [00:01]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.109998 BTC [+] [00:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.109998 = 0.99 BTC [+] [00:10]
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jurov just 10k s.dice to 0.002 [00:10]
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MJR_ hi [00:12]
kakobrekla heya [00:13]
kakobrekla MJR_ is a big star now https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=202145.0 [00:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 7 @ 0.015879 = 0.1112 BTC [+] [00:16]
MJR_ lol [00:16]
MJR_ the forums completely ignored it [00:16]
MJR_ 0 comments [00:16]
kakobrekla forums aint shit. [00:16]
jurov your name's actually Maximo? [00:16]
MJR_ hold on [00:16]
MJR_ yes it is [00:16]
MJR_ Maximo Joshua Rossi [00:16]
MJR_ <-----makes sense now :) [00:17]
kakobrekla i was accually dislecit for a long time [00:17]
kakobrekla and called you MR. J in my head [00:18]
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mircea_popescu coolness [00:20]
mircea_popescu MJR_ the forums are retarded. [00:21]
MJR_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56587.0;topicseen [00:21]
MJR_ super old post from my bit coin noob days [00:21]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: I agree [00:21]
mircea_popescu lmao "hai i want to mine with nvidia" [00:22]
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MJR_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196613.0 [00:23]
MJR_ that was jan 2012 [00:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.01498 = 0.1198 BTC [+] [00:24]
MJR_ so look at how much the forums did there [00:24]
mircea_popescu :p [00:25]
greatIdeas whois self [00:25]
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greatIdeas whois greatideas [00:26]
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MJR_ anyway, meeting Stephen foley, financial times today [00:27]
MJR_ I showed him trilema [00:27]
MJR_ and the best BTC investments of all time [00:27]
MJR_ we talked diff futures, IPO's, options... [00:28]
MJR_ I told him that there was a story no ones really ran with [00:28]
MJR_ we'll discuss more tonight over drinks [00:28]
jurov lol, have you told him about mpoe-pr? [00:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+] [00:29]
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jurov that *will* be a story [00:29]
MJR_ no...lol in what way? [00:29]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01499 = 0.2698 BTC [+] [00:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.489999 = 2.98 BTC [+] [00:29]
-tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi all. We're just completing some administrative tasks after services extended tea break. They'll return shortly. Sorry for the outage! [00:29]
mircea_popescu jurov just likes her [00:29]
jurov she can be featured in a box next to story as "most reviled PR ever or so" [00:29]
mod6_ nickserv is ded? [00:29]
mircea_popescu mod6_ atm [00:30]
mod6_ ahh thx [00:30]
mod6_ :] [00:30]
MJR_ I love her responses [00:31]
MJR_ and admire her for being able to stand writing on that hell hole of a forum [00:31]
mircea_popescu now on that later part i fully agree [00:32]
mircea_popescu tingirl. [00:32]
benkay ahahahaha [00:32]
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benkay tingirl? [00:33]
mircea_popescu well some metal [00:33]
jurov let's do nice holiday surprise for her (if she's in the US) [00:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 11 @ 0.01499 = 0.1649 BTC [+] [00:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.4899 = 12.4495 BTC [+] [00:34]
mircea_popescu it's a holiday atm ? [00:34]
jurov you said she's on vacation, no? [00:34]
mircea_popescu she only got a coupla days lol [00:34]
jurov heh [00:34]
mircea_popescu what do you think this is, socialism ?! [00:35]
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benkay vacation = socialism [00:35]
benkay deep [00:35]
mircea_popescu totally. [00:36]
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benkay man i can't handle "vacation" [00:37]
benkay being idle is the worst [00:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489999 BTC [+] [00:37]
mircea_popescu see ? [00:38]
jurov now i see why some people can't call longer vacation a vacation, they instead say "mini-retirement" [00:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01474 = 0.1179 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01474 = 0.0737 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.014735 = 0.0589 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.014732 = 0.1473 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01473 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0147226 = 0.1178 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01472 = 0.0883 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01471 = 0.0883 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.0147 = 0.3381 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 729 @ 0.01461 = 10.6507 BTC [-] [00:41]
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benkay ;;ticker [00:47]
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MJR_ I will go on a mini retirement week after next [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00287001 = 2.87 BTC [-] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00286001 = 2.86 BTC [-] [00:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1398 @ 0.00286 = 3.9983 BTC [-] [00:50]
MJR_ s.dice P/E ratio is around 4 [00:50]
MJR_ which is crazy [00:50]
mircea_popescu kinda [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 30 @ 0.015979 = 0.4794 BTC [+] [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01598 BTC [+] [00:51]
MJR_ if you had done the article when it was trading around 6 it would have been higher up [00:51]
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MJR_ but, a snapshot is always subjective [00:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01599 = 0.7995 BTC [+] [00:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 83 @ 0.016498 = 1.3693 BTC [+] [00:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 100 @ 0.016499 = 1.6499 BTC [+] [00:52]
mircea_popescu yea [00:53]
kakobrekla hm [00:56]
kakobrekla bitstamp overtook btce [00:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 160 @ 0.01499 = 2.3984 BTC [+] [00:56]
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benkay wow pgp doesn't take command line input of text to encrypt [00:59]
benkay *bitch bitch bitch bitch* [00:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.01455101 = 2.5464 BTC [-] [01:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.014551 = 2.1827 BTC [-] [01:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 175 @ 0.01455 = 2.5463 BTC [-] [01:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.447401 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.4474 = 10.1318 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.447301 = 7.2365 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 1.4471 = 20.2594 BTC [-] [01:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.487499 BTC [+] [01:16]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/ [14:47]
mircea_popescu i wanna bet but i dunno which way ;/ [14:48]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves pretty cool logo i say. [14:51]
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mircea_popescu http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/10/canadian-mafia-killed-sicily-hit [15:05]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [15:05]
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gribble cads was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 17 hours, 2 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: benkay: lets talk more about 3dp later - I think there is a great future in personal desktop-based manufacturing, and it seems like 3dp is positioned to bring it to the consumer. There are lots of points of contention I'd love to chat about, but I gotta jet. [15:30]
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error4733 ;;next [15:31]
gribble consolidation around 117 | resistance 121 | support: 112-113 | breakout targets: 131, 145 | #bitcoin [Sat, 11 May 2013 16:14:18 +0000] | tips: http://bit.ly/YnxUM4 | disclaimer: http://bit.ly/139er6E | this is not investment or trading advice | #bitcoin-analysis | https://twitter.com/BitcoinOracle | updated by OneFixt | 20 hours, 17 minutes, and 0 seconds ago [15:31]
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mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [15:39]
gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 [15:39]
mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0b6173aa473eed3fabcb4926c99a7e85ea3c86d6f8f9de54eaece017 [15:39]
gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 [15:39]
mircea_popescu ;;rate mvrak -10 Prolly a scammer per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695 [15:40]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user mvrak has been recorded. [15:40]
error4733 ;;eauth error4733 [15:55]
gribble Error: This nick is not registered. Please register. [15:55]
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error4733 ;;bids 101 [16:02]
gribble There are currently 30155.256 bitcoins demanded at or over 101.0 USD, worth 3203719.59897 USD in total. | Data vintage: 110.6834 seconds [16:02]
error4733 ;;asks 126 [16:03]
gribble There are currently 29146.866 bitcoins offered at or under 126.0 USD, worth 3555891.07381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0050 seconds [16:03]
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kakobrekla mircea_popescu thats interesting, the guy just pinged me [16:17]
mircea_popescu o you know him ? [16:17]
kakobrekla ofc [16:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4994 BTC [+] [16:24]
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KRS1 i dont even think luke jr has -10 [16:27]
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ThickAsThieves [07:51] ThickAsThieves pretty cool logo i say. <<< Thank you, sir! [16:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.42570001 = 0.8514 BTC [-] [16:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4257 BTC [-] [16:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.42570001 = 2.1285 BTC [+] [16:41]
Scrat show logo TAT [16:41]
error4733 ;;last see bugpowder [16:43]
error4733 ;;last seen bugpowder [16:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 14 @ 0.2992 = 4.1888 BTC [-] [16:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4474 @ 0.00070853 = 3.17 BTC [-] [16:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 376 @ 0.00070766 = 0.2661 BTC [-] [16:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.18167 BTC [-] [17:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 4 @ 0.181662 = 0.7266 BTC [-] [17:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.181661 BTC [-] [17:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.1752 = 0.5256 BTC [-] [17:01]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.014737 BTC [+] [17:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01494499 = 0.2242 BTC [+] [17:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3945 @ 0.00070766 = 2.7917 BTC [-] [17:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1985 @ 0.00070766 = 1.4047 BTC [-] [17:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C104T] 5 @ 0.2 = 1 BTC [-] [17:26]
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deadweasel ;;ticker [17:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.11000, Best ask: 114.14999, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 114.11000, 24 hour volume: 26149.79301925, 24 hour low: 112.40000, 24 hour high: 117.73495, 24 hour vwap: 114.64794 [17:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475514 BTC [-] [17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475513 BTC [-] [17:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475513 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.475506 = 2.951 BTC [-] [17:33]
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assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 16 @ 0.0146 = 0.2336 BTC [-] [17:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 185 @ 0.01494499 = 2.7648 BTC [+] [17:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.474301 BTC [-] [17:48]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4743 BTC [-] [17:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2371 @ 0.00071108 = 1.686 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071146 = 3.0742 BTC [+] [17:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10258 @ 0.00071147 = 7.2983 BTC [+] [17:49]
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assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1855 BTC [+] [17:51]
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mjr___ hi all [18:15]
kakobrekla hey [18:15]
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mjr___ whats new [18:15]
kakobrekla 10 alt chains [18:15]
mjr___ hehehe [18:15]
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mjr___ i explained skateboards to a reporter from financial times [18:16]
mjr___ ;) [18:16]
kakobrekla :o [18:16]
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kakobrekla sell all btc [18:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.477 = 2.954 BTC [+] [18:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01466 = 0.733 BTC [-] [18:44]
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ThickAsThieves Jurov, has mircea_popescu processed withdrawals? [18:55]
jurov not yet [18:55]
ThickAsThieves word [18:56]
error4733 no way with 4 fingers !! [18:56]
ThickAsThieves I need to make dealz yo! [18:56]
KRS1 like hotcakes [18:56]
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kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/ [19:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1753 BTC [-] [19:05]
kakobrekla sooo who dares? [19:05]
mircea_popescu withdrawals are unfashionable anyway [19:06]
jurov bitbet payouts too, seems [19:07]
mircea_popescu meanwhile : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136747629696.jpg [19:07]
kakobrekla on which planet [19:08]
jurov this planet: http://bitbet.us/bet/240/tesla-elon-musk-to-post-an-apology-re-the/ [19:08]
kakobrekla blah wot is down [19:09]
kakobrekla just when you need it [19:09]
jurov ahh it's not resolved yet [19:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071122 = 3.0732 BTC [-] [19:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2660 @ 0.00071147 = 1.8925 BTC [+] [19:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.498498 BTC [+] [19:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.175121 BTC [-] [19:20]
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wamatt .close [19:38]
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Diablo-D3 !ticker [19:46]
assbot Quest for vision is a great blessing. [19:46]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [19:46]
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error4733 gribble is dead :/ [19:48]
error4733 ;;eightball gribble is dead ? [19:49]
error4733 eightball is dead [19:49]
jurov in -otc there is altgribble and backupgribble.. but they're dead too [19:51]
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Diablo-D3 where the fuck did nanotube go [19:55]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.475 BTC [-] [19:56]
benkay ;;seen nanotube [19:56]
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mircea_popescu lol~ [19:57]
mircea_popescu poor gribs [19:57]
jurov ;;ticker [19:57]
backupgribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 114.91000, Best ask: 115.05000, Bid-ask spread: 0.14000, Last trade: 114.91000, 24 hour volume: 25969.93487207, 24 hour low: 112.40000, 24 hour high: 117.47000, 24 hour vwap: 114.51241 [19:57]
jurov okay [19:57]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/450/bitfurys-asic-will-work-with-power-1/s [19:58]
mircea_popescu so 33:1 eh [19:58]
benkay that needs a list of known shills [19:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0147 = 0.0294 BTC [+] [19:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 98 @ 0.01469 = 1.4396 BTC [-] [19:59]
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error4733 thanks jurov [20:00]
jurov what for? [20:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.16 = 0.32 BTC [-] [20:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.15997 BTC [-] [20:01]
jurov i am not aware that i made backupgribble manifest somehow [20:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.157 = 0.314 BTC [-] [20:01]
benkay wow, bitfury might actually know what they're doing [20:01]
ThickAsThieves or they are willing to pay 100btc to have you think so [20:02]
ThickAsThieves ;) [20:02]
jurov are they doing an ipo somewhere? [20:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00071137 = 6.6157 BTC [-] [20:04]
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ThickAsThieves dunno [20:05]
ThickAsThieves they have fairly sexy gfx tho [20:05]
ThickAsThieves http://www.bitfury.org/ [20:05]
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jurov no mention of ASICs, only FPGA [20:09]
jurov but they seem to really have some expertise [20:09]
kakobrekla yeah i been in touch with him for over a year now [20:09]
kakobrekla a bunch of stuff is behind the scenes [20:10]
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benkay wire that shit into your house [20:12]
benkay mint coins [20:12]
benkay heat home [20:12]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves or that. tho it's open for the taking if that's true [20:12]
mircea_popescu benkay i seriously think houses will be built with asic floor heating in 10-20 years [20:12]
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ThickAsThieves lol [20:13]
ThickAsThieves but what about Floirida? [20:13]
ThickAsThieves Florida* [20:14]
KRS1 T'sup I'm in Florida. Its still here. [20:14]
KRS1 F'n hot today. [20:14]
ThickAsThieves looking forward to heated ASIC floors? [20:14]
ThickAsThieves maybe Florida gets ASIC solar panels instead [20:15]
KRS1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Beach,_Florida [20:15]
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error4733 any idea where i can buy some avalon chip ? (small quantity) [20:16]
KRS1 The racial makeup of the town is 96% Euro American [20:17]
ThickAsThieves error, there are many people selling chips on the forums [20:17]
ThickAsThieves EuroAmerican seems a pretty broad description [20:17]
jurov mircea_popescu: so we'll gonna change floor tiles every season? [20:18]
error4733 solar panels to supply a 3D printer factory with miner sandwiched [20:18]
mircea_popescu why ? you don't have to keep it powered. [20:18]
mircea_popescu basically it will be like, if you heat your floor you can recoup 50% of elec cost via mining [20:18]
ThickAsThieves ASIC microwaves [20:18]
jurov they will be obsolete in a year [20:18]
ThickAsThieves overclocking for your overeating [20:19]
mircea_popescu there will be something like 1 trn sq feet of asic flooring [20:19]
MJR_ i was wondering [20:19]
mircea_popescu doing whatever many yotta hashes [20:19]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4742 BTC [-] [20:19]
MJR_ i figure that it would be possible with 3D printing to create a coin that must be broken open to read the private key [20:19]
ThickAsThieves I'm gonna hack your floors [20:19]
mircea_popescu jurov this relies on the theory that there's an equilibrium point [20:19]
mircea_popescu MJR_ this is actually a ghood idea. [20:19]
ThickAsThieves fortunecoinz [20:19]
MJR_ it could print the private key on the inside of the coin [20:19]
mircea_popescu pretty much the only practical application for 3d printing i see [20:20]
MJR_ i mean, you still have to trust that they didn't just copy it [20:20]
mircea_popescu make the process automated, put it all under plexiglass or w./e [20:20]
mircea_popescu and that's it [20:20]
jurov i wanted to do it with chocolate [20:20]
MJR_ BUT, if automated, it would do it without you knowing the key at all [20:20]
ThickAsThieves chococoins [20:20]
MJR_ lol [20:20]
MJR_ chocolate would work too i suppose [20:20]
ThickAsThieves or guns [20:20]
MJR_ lol [20:20]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/46/qT/4q4CVxEu/photo.jpg [20:21]
ThickAsThieves pewpewcoins [20:21]
kakobrekla here you go guys [20:21]
kakobrekla a photo of never seen in public [20:21]
kakobrekla fury board [20:21]
error4733 MJR already done [20:21]
kakobrekla fpga [20:21]
MJR_ but yeah, if you put the source up, and have a way to monitor that you are running that program [20:21]
kakobrekla 300 mhash per chip [20:21]
MJR_ people could conceivably have more trust [20:21]
kakobrekla kako delivers. [20:21]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla of ? [20:21]
kakobrekla what [20:21]
mircea_popescu a [20:21]
error4733 insert a private key in a block of plastique [20:21]
error4733 need to be broken to reddem [20:22]
MJR_ ah cool [20:22]
ThickAsThieves how many hashes per board? [20:22]
MJR_ where can you get? [20:22]
ThickAsThieves that's a lotta caps [20:22]
error4733 cant find the link, let me check a gain [20:22]
kakobrekla you cant get it anymore [20:22]
MJR_ error4733 thanks [20:22]
kakobrekla 10 chips at 300 mhash each [20:22]
ThickAsThieves i wanna see a tube board [20:22]
kakobrekla per board [20:22]
MJR_ kakobrekla, our virtex 6 might get 1.2-1.5 GH [20:22]
ThickAsThieves for warmer sound [20:22]
kakobrekla MJR_ fpga is dead [20:22]
MJR_ so far as i've seen, most people only got 600 mhs [20:22]
MJR_ kakobrekla, of course [20:23]
MJR_ but designing better chips isn't [20:23]
kakobrekla mhm [20:23]
kakobrekla anyway these were sold last year [20:23]
MJR_ and also, it's only dead if you have to pay for equipment or electricity [20:23]
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kakobrekla in october or so [20:24]
kakobrekla when bfl announced [20:24]
benkay in what scenarios does one get away without paying for equipment or electricity, MJR? [20:24]
kakobrekla eh planned to deliver [20:24]
ThickAsThieves BFL figured it out [20:24]
kakobrekla not announced [20:24]
MJR_ check out buttonwood.btcshares.com [20:24]
ThickAsThieves they didnt have to pay for shit [20:24]
MJR_ benkay, someone else pays for it [20:24]
MJR_ obviously [20:25]
MJR_ for example: my apt has electricity included [20:25]
ThickAsThieves well [20:25]
MJR_ anyways, i got geolocate up on buttonwood [20:25]
MJR_ still working on user accounts [20:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01849 BTC [+] [20:25]
MJR_ i just did it to show that it could be done [20:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01849 BTC [+] [20:26]
MJR_ which you all know, but some other people didn't [20:26]
benkay maximo i heart this project mega [20:26]
MJR_ which project? [20:26]
MJR_ buttonwood [20:26]
benkay buttonwood [20:26]
MJR_ you are welcome to contribute on github [20:26]
MJR_ <----rank amateur [20:27]
error4733 next is tmrw ? [20:27]
MJR_ yes [20:27]
MJR_ tmrw we have second live exchange [20:27]
benkay i may, but i'm a bit slammed [20:27]
MJR_ everyone else is invited too [20:27]
error4733 give me 400box i'll take the plane to trade 1 or 2btc :) [20:27]
MJR_ or if you just want to point me in the right direction [20:27]
MJR_ little trouble on user accounts [20:27]
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MJR_ $200 [20:28]
MJR_ nice [20:28]
MJR_ i need to make it so that each user 1. Displays their username, and the name field becomes not editable [20:28]
benkay is there some sort of radius control? [20:28]
MJR_ 2. can only update/cancel their own orders [20:28]
benkay AUTH TO WOT [20:28]
MJR_ not yet [20:28]
kakobrekla wot is down [20:29]
MJR_ benkay, and yes, i plan on integrating with WoT eventually [20:29]
MJR_ no radius control yet [20:29]
MJR_ but soon, that will be added [20:29]
benkay the super resilient pgp contract economy in action [20:29]
MJR_ to show whether orders are actionable or not [20:29]
benkay awesome man [20:29]
MJR_ why thanks [20:29]
MJR_ i wish i was better programmer [20:29]
MJR_ so it'd be done already [20:29]
MJR_ it is super easy [20:30]
MJR_ i just don't know all the stuff yet [20:30]
benkay learn all of the things [20:30]
MJR_ you'll notice that you can log in with facebook and twitter or create a local account [20:30]
MJR_ google doesn't work yet [20:30]
benkay meh [20:31]
benkay wot wot wot [20:31]
MJR_ i would also like profile pics, ability to alert user that you wish to trade, integrated btc address, maybe coinapult for easier transfer [20:31]
MJR_ and in app chat [20:31]
benkay you got a vision [20:31]
benkay run with it [20:31]
MJR_ yeah [20:31]
MJR_ once it is up and running version 1 [20:31]
MJR_ i can offer it out to other communities [20:31]
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benkay might be worth your time to put up some issues [20:31]
MJR_ and hopefully grass root street level exchanges pop up [20:31]
MJR_ issues? [20:31]
MJR_ on github? [20:32]
benkay yeah github's feature/bug/whatever tracker [20:32]
MJR_ i will [20:32]
MJR_ good idea [20:32]
MJR_ this is my first time really using github [20:32]
benkay now don't expect me to start making prs or anything [20:32]
MJR_ to manage a project [20:32]
MJR_ lol [20:32]
MJR_ oh yeah, i also need to create a "prints/last" stream of data [20:32]
MJR_ lots to be done [20:33]
benkay yup [20:33]
MJR_ can someone test the gps? it seems to work on my phone [20:33]
benkay a link to repository on homepage would also do ya good [20:33]
benkay working for me [20:33]
MJR_ good idea [20:33]
MJR_ benkay, awesome!!!! [20:33]
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benkay now you know where i live dude [20:33]
benkay thanks googs. [20:34]
MJR_ lol [20:34]
MJR_ i am not monitoriing that info [20:34]
MJR_ now [20:34]
benkay someone is tho [20:34]
benkay i gave up on privacy a loooong time ago [20:34]
MJR_ its only in your browser at the moment [20:34]
benkay trivially overcome [20:34]
MJR_ i can add that [20:34]
MJR_ i haven't added it yet [20:34]
MJR_ but i will need to in order to change order status [20:34]
MJR_ of course [20:34]
MJR_ just saying right now, it is just Proof of Concept [20:35]
MJR_ only alerts you to your location [20:35]
MJR_ which is not very useful [20:35]
MJR_ gonna try to change it to a button [20:35]
Scrat the scariest of all is the google skyhook thingy [20:35]
Scrat the one that pinpoints your location based on nearby wifi SSIDs [20:35]
MJR_ lol yeah [20:37]
benkay give up [20:37]
Scrat chrome has it [20:37]
error4733 yep ! google was sued in my country for that [20:37]
Scrat off by default though [20:37]
benkay i can figure out pretty much who you are just from the cookies you carry when you hit a page i control [20:37]
benkay blows my mind that all of these crm companies and lead management companies don't do that automatically [20:37]
benkay 'hey sendgrid, will you automatically populate my lead information with this api?' [20:38]
benkay 'wat' [20:38]
benkay >.< [20:38]
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Framedragger there were some tales circulating around HN about that, actually - wherein certain services offer websites to participate in mass user data agglomeration - so that when a user fills up a form on one website, (1) that form data can be autofilled on other, seemingly unrelated websites (via cookies); and (2) when the same user enters the same / uniquely identifiable data in another website even using another computer etc., that other website [20:40]
Framedragger basically matching identities by formdata entered on various websites [20:41]
KRS1 Where has Bowjob been? [20:41]
Framedragger kinda scary actually. [20:41]
Scrat Framedragger: don't think that's possible [20:41]
Framedragger Scrat, which part is not possible? [20:41]
Scrat cookies or autofill spanning across different domains [20:42]
Framedragger it's only possible for websites already participating in the agglomeration network [20:42]
Scrat ah ok then [20:42]
Scrat sort of like the facebook like JS [20:42]
Framedragger oh - in regards to cookies - yeah it's not that simple i suppose, still need a third party [20:42]
Framedragger yeah [20:42]
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MJR_ so...weird [20:45]
MJR_ it autochanges my link to point at my own site [20:45]
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MJR_ k [20:55]
MJR_ i added link to github [20:55]
MJR_ geolocate works [20:55]
MJR_ though is not implemented properly [20:55]
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KRS1 ;;seen bowjob [21:02]
backupgribble bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 11 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161230.msg1703283#new [21:02]
KRS1 6 weeks [21:03]
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mircea_popescu ;;seen gribble [21:07]
backupgribble I have not seen gribble. [21:07]
mircea_popescu scam. [21:07]
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MJR_ for some reason i can't get this button to work [21:10]
benkay ;;seen nanotube [21:11]
backupgribble nanotube was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 6 days, 20 hours, 32 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: well, if there are no mutually trusted third parties, i guess this is a non-starter. [21:11]
benkay krs1 nanotube was last seen in #bitcoin-analysis 22 minutes and 34 seconds ago: ;;next [21:12]
nanotube sup [21:13]
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mircea_popescu http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/14342418-452/companies-dont-care-but-we-do.html [22:23]
mircea_popescu matthew wright guy has a point eh. [22:23]
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newmorpheus007 who want to get together and make a anonymous exchange for crytocurrency? [22:35]
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mircea_popescu newmorpheus007 who are you. [22:41]
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benkay man [22:49]
benkay boycott something useful [22:49]
benkay like rare earths extraction [22:49]
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jurov benkay what? i don't follow [22:50]
benkay mp posted a link earlier [22:50]
benkay http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/14342418-452/companies-dont-care-but-we-do.html [22:50]
jurov yes, but it refuses to load [22:51]
benkay sun times probably blacklisted europe or something hilarious [22:51]
benkay vtunnel.com? [22:51]
MJR_ benkay, check it out now [22:52]
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jurov okay it works.. (not vtunnel but other thing i'm using for trilema) [22:52]
MJR_ getting better [22:52]
MJR_ no null fields in price and size [22:52]
MJR_ location button [22:53]
MJR_ links to github and blog [22:53]
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MJR_ all i need now is to get user_accounts working [22:53]
MJR_ and it will be ready to go for monday (rough but functional) [22:53]
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MJR_ so what do you think benkay? [22:56]
MJR_ i should commit this now [22:56]
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jurov now i read it... and still don't see how rare earths extraction would be different [22:56]
benkay looks great maximo [22:57]
jurov if peeps, say, boycotted TV or like, that could cause something to happen [22:58]
benkay except that i can delete others orders [22:58]
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benkay jurov, i wasn't saying that it would be effective, just that i might be able to get behind it [22:59]
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benkay i am extremely tired of gender and sexuality politics [22:59]
benkay rub your shit on whatever feels good, kids [22:59]
benkay let's all grow up about bodies [22:59]
jurov it's not so much about bodies, rather about religion [23:00]
benkay yeah. still talking about that grow the fuck up shit. [23:00]
jurov today i happened to read catholic newspaper my parents keep buying [23:01]
kakobrekla by accident? [23:01]
benkay I gather your brain didn't melt and pour out of your ears? [23:01]
jurov the bubble reality it tries to create... made me cringe [23:01]
mircea_popescu benkay o, the forum is about to blow with that shit. [23:01]
jurov my brain is used to it, i was raised as catholic.. but i forgot somewhat [23:01]
mircea_popescu the girl is expertly bringing the recent lefty driftwood to boiling point [23:02]
benkay link? [23:02]
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mircea_popescu im not even sure, a lot of stuff about hate and priviledge and whatnot [23:03]
mircea_popescu fallout from that guy's racist failure. [23:03]
benkay ho ho [23:03]
benkay the only people who care about privilege have none [23:03]
mircea_popescu doh. [23:03]
jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52741;sa=showPosts [23:03]
mircea_popescu priviledge = that guy worked while i dicked about, now he has shit [23:03]
mircea_popescu unfair! [23:03]
benkay now now that's a vast oversimplification [23:04]
benkay that guy inherited capital which made his ventures a little more easily pulled off [23:04]
benkay or [23:04]
mircea_popescu yeah. so ? [23:04]
benkay that dude's a dude and therefore it's easier for him to build and run a company than me, a woman [23:04]
benkay or [23:04]
mircea_popescu he inherited it from his daddy, who worked. [23:04]
benkay the objected-to point is that people get bonuses for not working [23:05]
MJR_ as long as someone worked at some point i guess [23:05]
mircea_popescu this is what's claimed. [23:05]
mircea_popescu but in fact it works as an excuse for not working. [23:05]
benkay different story [23:05]
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benkay must be evaluated on a case by case basis [23:05]
mircea_popescu nope. [23:05]
mircea_popescu noboduy's business on a case by case basis. [23:05]
mircea_popescu it can only be evaluated on a statistical basis. [23:06]
benkay haha [23:06]
benkay well statistically people are lazy and dumb [23:06]
mircea_popescu exactly. [23:06]
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benkay but we *can* evaluate their claims without dipping into ad-hominems [23:07]
benkay but I don't care! [23:08]
mircea_popescu what do you mean ? [23:08]
benkay because the world is constructed of power structures that were here before you and I and will be here after you and i [23:08]
benkay some are born into power [23:08]
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benkay some fight their way to it [23:08]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 8.2 / 101.14 [23:08]
backupgribble 0.0810757366027 [23:08]
benkay and most are trampled under foot [23:08]
mircea_popescu benkay and the problem with this is ? [23:08]
benkay none! [23:08]
mircea_popescu ok then i'm not sure what we're arguing anymore lol [23:08]
benkay I didn't think we were arguing [23:08]
benkay i'm just complaining about liberals [23:09]
mircea_popescu well... they are kinda fun tbh. [23:09]
mircea_popescu there's this fallacious expectation that liberal and innovation go together [23:09]
benkay once they start exposing their kinks [23:09]
mircea_popescu and so therefore they expect bitcoin to be friendly. [23:09]
mircea_popescu best internet comedy setup in the history of comedy [23:10]
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benkay except that it consumes bandwidth that should go towards building shit [23:11]
benkay not that anyone cares what the kid thinks [23:12]
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benkay jurov: watching PR's posts alone will be gold. thanks for the link/suggestion :) [23:12]
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mircea_popescu culture, benkay. it's a waste from a strict civilisational pov [23:17]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, the content of books endures longer than the shape of buildings. [23:17]
MJR_ nice, ok now it is working correctly, as far as validating inputs [23:17]
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benkay what's the strict civilizational pov? [23:21]
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mircea_popescu itams. [23:21]
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mircea_popescu productivity. tons of steel per capital [23:21]
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taub_ oh mircea_popescu btw, pump and dump doesnt always happen by the people who own the company [23:22]
taub_ spammers just find a penny stock and promote it [23:22]
mircea_popescu taub_ this is true, but still... [23:22]
taub_ would be too obvious if they owned it [23:22]
mircea_popescu there;s most oftenly SOME relation. [23:22]
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benkay mircea_popescu zero consession to hedonics? [23:24]
benkay concession* [23:24]
mircea_popescu except that it consumes bandwidth that should go towards building shit << [23:24]
benkay hurr durr [23:24]
benkay but i've spent so much time building shit [23:24]
benkay and now i want to experience some fun [23:25]
benkay if no hedonics exist, i'm basically limited to finding new holes for my dick [23:25]
benkay which, great, but there's more to life [23:25]
benkay I don't need immersive 3d environments or whatever [23:25]
mircea_popescu right. [23:26]
benkay there's a balance there, right? [23:26]
benkay we want to encourage enough hedonic development to inspire people to take over the world so they can experience crazy fun stuff [23:26]
benkay but also keep it expensive enough that it's actually a treat [23:26]
benkay I don't really know where I'm going with this, other than there's gotta be a coupling factor between how much energy to put into plays and books and how much to put into building useful shit. [23:27]
mircea_popescu i guess so. [23:28]
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benkay huh [23:29]
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benkay but because plays are easy to write relative to building a business, and the fame rewards are so outsize, that would explain the misallocation [23:30]
benkay *might* explain the misallocation. [23:30]
mircea_popescu this is not true. [23:30]
mircea_popescu billions of businesses have been built, a good play has not been written [23:30]
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benkay all plays are bad? [23:31]
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mircea_popescu just because the us has finally given up after two cventuries of trying to build a culture [23:31]
mircea_popescu does not mean "it's easy" [23:31]
mircea_popescu quite the opposite. [23:31]
benkay oh oh [23:31]
benkay sorry, let me rephrase [23:31]
mircea_popescu the entire population of the united states has not yet produced a pasible play. [23:31]
benkay sure, sure [23:31]
mircea_popescu meanwhile it has built some decent businesses. [23:32]
mircea_popescu (tho i guess cat on a hot tin roof may make a claim there) [23:32]
b0n1 it seems like someone is trying to keep the prices constant atm [23:32]
benkay but they produce cultural things they themselves enjoy, and the fame that accrues to the individuals involved is a draw for the other "playwrights" [23:32]
b0n1 you often see big walls appearing when prices move too much and they disappear suddenly [23:33]
benkay and what I meant by 'writing a play is easy' is literally that putting words on paper is a trivial thing for a monkey who's been taught english to accomplish. [23:33]
mircea_popescu b0n1 funny how that works huh. [23:33]
mircea_popescu benkay words on paper doth not a play make. [23:33]
benkay come on man, don't deliberately misunderstand me [23:34]
mircea_popescu and for that matter the fact that some guy walks on two legs doth not a human make, either. [23:34]
benkay some of those tomes become popular by no virtue of their writers [23:34]
mircea_popescu nono! it's an important point. [23:34]
jurov benkay i seem to "deliberately misunderstand" too... [23:34]
b0n1 yaeh mircea_popescu its a bit sad because it shows how strong manipulative the market is [23:34]
benkay i'm not claiming those works are any good [23:34]
mircea_popescu b0n1 not really. it just shows how "speculation" doesn't work in btc. [23:34]
benkay but that they are successful by some metric [23:34]
mircea_popescu also recommended reading for you : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/people-bitcoin-is-not-worth-100-dollars-per-stop-buying/ [23:34]
benkay and therefore attract a huge amount of what could otherwise be productive energy [23:34]
mircea_popescu do they ? [23:35]
jurov rly, memes distract productive energy? [23:35]
b0n1 I dont understand why the big influencers are not trying to push the prices and lock them afterwards [23:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9131 @ 0.00070809 = 6.4656 BTC [-] [23:36]
benkay what are you two objecting to? that the energy could be deployed in a useful way? or that any energy is diverted? [23:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5548 @ 0.00070765 = 3.926 BTC [-] [23:36]
mircea_popescu benkay i object to the entire construction. [23:36]
mircea_popescu it sounds to me like "if you shat less you could cum more" [23:36]
b0n1 why do they lock it so low? [23:36]
benkay if fewer monkeys wasted their lives writing crap they could staff factories [23:37]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu do you have evidence that shows otherwise [23:37]
jurov benkay, whole eastern european communism was anti-hedonistic and purported to maximize usage of "productive energy" [23:37]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol notrly [23:37]
jurov we see how i ended [23:37]
mircea_popescu indeed, jurov has a point there. [23:37]
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mircea_popescu b0n1 to punish noobs who think bitcoin is a get rich scheme and they can ride the bandwagon. [23:38]
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benkay i thought easter european communism was a front to enrich a small number of people [23:38]
benkay all of the propaganda was just...propaganda. [23:39]
jurov benkay, that was how it ended [23:39]
jurov but in 50-60's everyone actually believed it [23:39]
benkay that's terrifying. [23:39]
mircea_popescu every instance of communism starts out as an attempt to implement the intellectualy bankrupt "ideas" of the libertards [23:39]
mircea_popescu and ends up in a horror, which then the libertarda claim is distinct from "their ideal" [23:40]
mircea_popescu and so they want to try it again [23:40]
b0n1 mircea_popescu, that doesnt make sence. The global players would profit most from pushing prices [23:40]
mircea_popescu this is the essence of TARD in libertard. [23:40]
mircea_popescu b0n1 the fact that you don't understand it doesn't mean it doesn't make senSe. [23:40]
mircea_popescu and conceivably if you were in a position to know what rich people benefited most from, you'd be rich yourself already [23:40]
jurov except that this kind of communism was very far from "liber"... it was conceived to go through dictatorship of proletariate [23:41]
jurov on the premise that if workers rule, economyu will soar [23:41]
jurov and society will solve all its problems [23:41]
mircea_popescu this is the idea of the liberal left, yes. [23:41]
mircea_popescu that "privilege" is bad and that the more people "rule" the better. [23:41]
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mircea_popescu except all this does is replace the proper elite with a failed elite. [23:42]
jurov yes [23:42]
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benkay this conversation puts the past half-century of american history in interesting perspective [23:43]
benkay deprive the proles of education, so that they demand less entertainment, so that the true elites can work them harder for less pay [23:43]
mircea_popescu perhaps [23:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2 @ 0.00304 = 0.0061 BTC [+] [23:44]
mircea_popescu certainly the smartphone is a marvel of cheap token replacement of circus. [23:44]
mircea_popescu it never was this cost effective. [23:44]
benkay well [23:44]
benkay they take on the debt for the toys themselves [23:45]
benkay it's hidden very well [23:45]
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mircea_popescu most jobs will issue you one [23:45]
benkay i'm going to steal that idea, mircea_popescu [23:45]
mircea_popescu go ahead. [23:46]
benkay most americans don't have jobs that would issue them anything [23:46]
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mircea_popescu true, which is why i phrased it the way i did :D [23:47]
mjr___ so...anyone know how to find really accurate gps info? [23:47]
mjr___ i want to find a parks boundaries... [23:47]
mircea_popescu as a simple heuristic, the line between welfare and employment can be drawn right there : does it come with free smartphone ? [23:47]
mircea_popescu if not, disguised unemployment. [23:47]
mircea_popescu mjr___ wouldn't it be better to solve a softer problem ? ie, take a guess of the park size and do x radius from center ? [23:48]
KRS1 What ever happened to Bowjob? Is he in the military or something [23:48]
benkay hahahaha [23:49]
mircea_popescu not like including people on the outskirts is a mission failure [23:49]
mircea_popescu otherwise the edge problem is a really tough one. [23:49]
jurov mjr___ i heard they have cities built by grid in murica [23:50]
mjr___ mircea_popescu: yeah thats another way to do it [23:50]
mjr___ jurov: they do! [23:50]
jurov to dispose of exactly such problems [23:50]
mjr___ which is why i'm really curious why i can't find the exact boundaries of the park [23:50]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I didn't get a free smartphone :( [23:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.49999 = 3 BTC [+] [23:50]
mjr___ i was going to add in some fuzziness to the edges anyway [23:50]
mircea_popescu copumpkin so now you know. [23:50]
mircea_popescu also xmas. [23:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 11 @ 1.49999 = 16.4999 BTC [+] [23:50]
copumpkin I need to advance my career past "janitor" [23:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [+] [23:51]
copumpkin like chief janitor or something [23:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.5 = 15 BTC [+] [23:51]
KRS1 Chef Janitor has a nice ring to it. Cook and Clean. [23:51]
benkay CJO [23:51]
benkay now you u has startup title [23:51]
copumpkin chief custodial officer [23:51]
mjr___ ah well, some progress made [23:51]
copumpkin I'll petition for a raise tomorrow [23:52]
benkay ;;seen bowjob [23:52]
backupgribble bowjob was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 1 minute, and 0 seconds ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161230.msg1703283#new [23:52]
mjr___ once user accounts work correctly it'll be functional enough to use tomorrow [23:52]
jurov you have to go through Senior Janitor first, are you there alreadY? [23:52]
mjr___ so i have 24 hours lol [23:52]
benkay don't stop get it get it mjr [23:52]
copumpkin jurov: nope :( [23:52]
KRS1 "There's always something stewing in the toilet at Chef Janitor's Restaurant" [23:52]
mircea_popescu copumpkin http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Josef_Brodsky.jpg [23:52]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.5 = 9 BTC [+] [23:53]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: how'd you find a pic of me? [23:54]
mircea_popescu i have people working for me [23:54]
mircea_popescu incidentally this was fred wilson's q, "how come you know so much about me". teh lol. [23:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.5 = 3 BTC [+] [23:55]
jurov haha his slovak wikipedia entry is much more succinct and funny [23:56]
KRS1 whats going to happen when the difficulty skyrockets from the avalon chips [23:56]
jurov KRS1, if you fail to invest into difficulty futures... then pretty nothing [23:57]
benkay mjr_ you gotta stick the footer text in some different frontend bag [23:57]
benkay orders are looming over it [23:57]
benkay er [23:57]
benkay bids and asks [23:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.01489 = 0.4169 BTC [+] [23:57]
KRS1 HAH didnt even know there were futures for that [23:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.014939 = 0.0299 BTC [+] [23:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 73 @ 0.014939 = 1.0905 BTC [+] [23:59]
KRS1 you dont mean calls/puts do u? [23:59]
KRS1 or binary options [23:59]
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