Forum logs for 12 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu http://imgur.com/gallery/uf3YE << i join in the "wtf, canada!" [00:07]
assbot WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, CANADA? - Imgur [00:07]
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bitcoinpete we love animals [00:08]
bitcoinpete they're all over our fiat [00:08]
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HyperChetty bear balls? [00:10]
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bitcoinpete http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/?src=http://www.canoe.ca/Canoe/Money/News/2014/02/19/toonie_650.jpg&size=650x366&quality=85 [00:15]
bitcoinpete ^two dollar coin aka "toonie" [00:16]
mircea_popescu wtf url and wtf braindamaged scheme is that! [00:16]
mircea_popescu http://www.canoe.ca/Canoe/Money/News/2014/02/19/toonie_650.jpg will do [00:17]
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bitcoinpete lol [00:19]
bitcoinpete http://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/auctions/great-proletarian-pullman-bonhams-auction-mao-ministers-mercedes << so who wants to play dictator? [00:19]
assbot The great proletarian Pullman - Bonhams to auction Mao minister's Mercedes | Classic Driver Magazine [00:19]
bitcoinpete pretty sure idi amin had one of these too [00:20]
bitcoinpete http://www.auctionsamerica.com/events/all-lots.cfm?SaleCode=LC14 << you can also play dictator with a couple tanks if merc sedans aren't your thing [00:21]
assbot Auctions America - The Littlefield Collection [00:21]
bitcoinpete Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf. H (Sd.Kfz. 161/2) is ~$2.5mn [00:23]
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mircea_popescu btw, if anyone's got 12 yos, get them "i sell the dead" [00:35]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why that thing's not more famous, it has just the right combo of freaky, cultured and humour to be another barbarella. [00:36]
mircea_popescu well maybe that's overstating a point. but anyway. [00:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 76 @ 0.03992963 = 3.0347 BTC [+] {2} [00:37]
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HyperChetty http://time.com/2974185/millennials-poll-politics/ [00:46]
assbot Millennials’ Political Views Baffle Baby Boomers - TIME [00:46]
mircea_popescu what happened to those old days when in order to have a view one first had to persuade ? [00:51]
mircea_popescu millenials have no views. [00:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: those old days when in order to have a view one first had to persuade >> http://jjlindal.net/jafl/nn_koan.php << obligatory [00:51]
assbot A Neural Network Koan [00:51]
mircea_popescu myeah. [00:52]
asciilifeform bricks have views. we just don't know how to ask them what they are. [00:52]
mircea_popescu a brick has no view. [00:52]
asciilifeform one would suppose. but the author of the linked article might disagree [00:53]
mircea_popescu to have a view eyes are not enough to see, nor mouth enough to speak, nor even some ganglion to somehow connect these two. in order to have a view one must have the ability to evoke that view in another, preferably another who does not care. [00:53]
mircea_popescu absent that, there's no view. [00:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.03842703 = 0.6917 BTC [-] {6} [00:53]
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bitcoinpete http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/the-20-most-sizzling-rich-white-guy-fashion-moments-from-sun << doze sv boyz [00:59]
assbot The 20 Most Sizzling Rich White Guy Fashion Moments From Sun Valley [00:59]
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mircea_popescu "a sophisticated yet fun and funky tee." ?! [01:01]
mircea_popescu jesus who put stale pasta in Jessica Misener's cerebral cavity and why am i reading this sht. [01:02]
bitcoinpete it's like a relaxed yet cutting edge toothpaste [01:02]
bitcoinpete shoulda had a disclaimer on that link [01:03]
bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/sprouteeweb/status/487694914474749952 << lel [01:06]
bitcoinpete "Humbling to see women in #fintech like @37coins & @BitPesa delivering on the promise of #bitcoin to empower the unbanked. #CoinSummit" [01:06]
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mircea_popescu lol waitwut ? [01:14]
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mircea_popescu what'd the chicks deliver ? [01:14]
mircea_popescu "For most older Americans, calling yourself a liberal means you want to increase the size, scope, and spending of the government" [01:17]
mircea_popescu ahahha that article's so lulzy, because this retarded shit is true. [01:18]
bitcoinpete mircea_popescu: 37coins does bitcoin over sms, bitpesa does bitcoin remittance to kenya [01:19]
mircea_popescu ok but as to delivery. [01:19]
bitcoinpete probably along the lines of "dozens served" [01:19]
mircea_popescu poor people are still poor. what's the deliverable exactly ? [01:19]
bitcoinpete not like they'd ever publish numbers [01:20]
bitcoinpete their deliverable is profit [01:20]
mircea_popescu well did either make a profit ? [01:20]
bitcoinpete but not too much that they kicked out of the "social enterprise" club [01:21]
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bitcoinpete https://twitter.com/bitcoinpete/status/487723577144512512 [01:22]
bitcoinpete where teh assbot at? [01:22]
punkman mircea_popescu: assbot: Kickstarter project spent $3.5M to finish a working prototypeand ended in disaster | Ars Technica << punkman to be fair, that's not really either important or making a lot of sense. << indeed, who cares how much money they waste. the product was very lulzy though [01:23]
punkman good discussion after that [01:24]
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bitcoinpete ;;nethash [01:26]
gribble 130275249.623 [01:26]
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mircea_popescu !up justincase- [01:29]
-assbot- You voiced justincase- for 30 minutes. [01:29]
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bitcoinpete i'm off, enjoy your friday nights! [01:29]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/jacobs-ladder/ [01:35]
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punkman spent the afternoon making a big sand castle, found a thai restaurant that wasn't horrible, very rewarding [01:41]
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punkman oh they really stopped moderating, it wasn't just my imagination: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/kickstarter-projects-no-longer-need-human-vetting-prior-to-launch/ [01:53]
assbot Kickstarter projects no longer need human vetting prior to launch | Ars Technica [01:53]
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punkman "Algorithm to replace human review of proposals." <- I just can't see that happening [01:55]
punkman apparently their algorithm always comes back with "hell yeah, let's fund this shit" [01:55]
mircea_popescu they actually did it to avoid legal responsibility. [01:56]
mircea_popescu there's really no third way : either you moderate and are actually good at it, which so far is strictly mpex, [01:56]
mircea_popescu or else you don't, in which case you can't even try. [01:56]
punkman they used to do an okay job keeping crap out, guess to many derps submitting these days [01:58]
mircea_popescu that's he problem. an ok job is actually worse for them. [01:58]
punkman it worked long enough for them to get big [01:59]
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mircea_popescu true. [02:01]
mircea_popescu that 5 to 20 year latency of teh legal system [02:01]
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punkman I wonder if this was always in their ToS: "Project Creators are required to fulfill all rewards of their successful fundraising campaigns or refund any Backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill." [02:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 97 @ 0.01539999 = 1.4938 BTC [+] {2} [02:25]
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Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686275.0 [02:53]
assbot I was hacked (1170btc stolen) - 500btc max BOUNTY [02:53]
Duffer1 online wallet check, reused password check [02:53]
Duffer1 :/ [02:53]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Amazon stock to close at over $350 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/965/ Odds: 89(Y):11(N) by coin, 88(Y):12(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.26310276 BTC. Current weight: 89,101. [02:54]
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thestringpuller ;;bc,stats [03:36]
gribble Current Blocks: 310316 | Current Difficulty: 16818461371.161 | Next Difficulty At Block: 310463 | Next Difficulty In: 147 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 22 hours, 36 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 17211594320.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.33751 [03:37]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00289995 = 0.58 BTC [+] {2} [03:48]
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punkman http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-07-11/cynk-makes-the-case-for-buying-friends-naked-short-selling [04:28]
assbot Cynk Makes the Case for Buying Friends, Naked Short Selling - Bloomberg View [04:28]
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punkman this Levine guy isn't so bad, even has footnotes [04:33]
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punkman "I like Institutional Investor's boldness in picking "five hedge fund managers who are likely to deliver market-beating returns over the next 25 years." Who even manages a hedge fund for 25 years? If you deliver market-beating returns for 22 years, come on, retire, you are already fantastically rich" [04:42]
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mircea_popescu ;p; fpptmptes [04:57]
mircea_popescu lol footnotes* [04:57]
mircea_popescu and nobody to date ran anything for 25 years [04:57]
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punkman "You'll never deter Ponzi schemers; the psychology of Ponzi'ing -- either "I am an invincible genius" or "I've lost my investors money and have no choice but to Ponzi my way back into the black" -- sort of precludes deterrence." [04:59]
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punkman "The best bet is to try to convince people not to invest all their money in undiversified opaque get-rich-quick schemes and, come, on, this is America." [04:59]
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mircea_popescu quite. [05:01]
mircea_popescu there's no "deterring" [05:02]
punkman only killing [05:02]
mircea_popescu not really. [05:07]
mircea_popescu it's like "deterring" black mold in your bathroom. [05:07]
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mircea_popescu fix the fucking plumbing. once the fed stops leaking, the mold goes away. big whoop [05:07]
mircea_popescu punkman shot the guy an email anyway. [05:12]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 208 @ 0.0031899 = 0.6635 BTC [+] {2} [05:22]
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[]bot Bet placed: 3.03897981 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 23(Y):77(N) by coin, 26(Y):74(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.81522285 BTC. Current weight: 46,968. [06:24]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [08:00]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 634.84, Best ask: 637.44, Bid-ask spread: 2.60000, Last trade: 637.44, 24 hour volume: 7353.08856946, 24 hour low: 613.46, 24 hour high: 640.02, 24 hour vwap: 0 [08:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00315212 = 1.2608 BTC [-] {7} [08:12]
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benkay btw, if anyone's got 12 yos, get them "i sell the dead" // noted [09:08]
benkay aight i'm smokin some pots and listening to ah um [09:14]
benkay who's with me [09:14]
benkay https://twitter.com/jennschiffer/status/487703485807603714 [09:20]
mod6 o_O [09:21]
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benkay i was recently made aware of a thing by the name of 'armoryd' [11:20]
benkay pyturd [11:21]
benkay plus cpp turd [11:21]
benkay mhm. [11:21]
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benkay general idea is that 0.6 is okay. [11:22]
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mircea_popescu * mod6 is merging code & listening to NIN << hurt ? [11:41]
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mircea_popescu jurov: is this KeyError: " " ? << no that's some db issue [19:04]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony lol the rat trap is falling apart is it ? [19:07]
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mircea_popescu this medium.com platform is so fucking retarded... [19:14]
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mircea_popescu so how do i leave a comment or anything to this tom guy ? [19:14]
mircea_popescu artifexd: Water cooling sprung a leak and blew my power supply. I guess it could've been worse. << yes, actually. you could have been electrocuted. [19:16]
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asciilifeform artifexd: if water cooling, install 'ground fault interrupter' [19:28]
asciilifeform artifexd: common widget, usually installed inside kitchen mains sockets, which senses even small difference between current flowing in through 'hot' and leaving through 'neutral' wire (e.g. through your arse) [19:29]
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mircea_popescu yup must have. [19:41]
artifexd asciilifeform: Will a GFCI fire fast enough to save a power supply in the face of an internal short? [19:41]
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asciilifeform artifexd: does nothing for a short. only for arse. [19:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's how i finaly allowed hairdryers et all in bathrooms. [19:42]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ground fault gizmos are SOP even in gringolandia now [19:43]
artifexd Yep. We have them in both bathrooms and all over the kitchen. [19:43]
artifexd Also, oddly, in my wife's office. Not in mine though. [19:43]
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* asciilifeform tired of drowned hardware many years ago, won't touch water cooling now [19:44]
mircea_popescu time to sue her ? :D [19:44]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you should prolly look into it again. you thinkl moore law's a big deal, give a look at plastics. [19:45]
mircea_popescu if an abstract "quality" value could be broadly associated, it went up a degree of magnitude each decade since 1960 [19:45]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the 'correct' way to do it is to have an all-copper loop, soldered joints - like refrigerator. but, for some reason, no one does this. [19:46]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's the friction joints (hose to barb) that end up slowly leaking. [19:47]
mircea_popescu some miners do it. [19:47]
asciilifeform the photos i saw were of immersive oil cooling (think transformer booth) [19:48]
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artifexd asciilifeform: That's exactly what happened. One of the connections decided to call it quits. It's what I get for using barbs and not securing it. [19:49]
mircea_popescu artifexd you know you could just glue it on the outside. [19:50]
artifexd I prefer zip ties [19:50]
asciilifeform artifexd: mine had hose clamps on all joints. theory - clamping deforms the barb, you leak anyway. [19:50]
artifexd Ever had problems with the compression connectors? [19:51]
asciilifeform artifexd: there's probably a golden mean here. a real 'saint' with a dynamometer wrench probably could've tightened the clamps exactly enough. [19:51]
artifexd I need to find a single video card that can drive all my monitors. Then I can get rid of the water cooling. [19:52]
mircea_popescu artifexd why do you prefer zip ties over say caulk ? [19:52]
artifexd Zip ties are cheap, clean, provide uniform pressure, and are easy to remove with no mess. [19:53]
mircea_popescu but they work on the same principle as the barb does. [19:54]
mircea_popescu you want convergence of principles. [19:55]
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mircea_popescu (this neatly dovetails in stan's "deform barbs" problem above : if you're building an army you don't want a 2nd cavalry, to argue with your 1st. you want an infantry too) [19:55]
artifexd The work in conduction with the barb. The barb provides interior pressure against the tube. The zip tie provides exterior pressure. [19:55]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: part of the problem is the abysmal, 'consumer' quality of the available thermoblocks (pumbed heat sinks that fit particular cpu, gpu, etc) - not one, afaik, to this day, comes with even threaded connectors [19:56]
asciilifeform *plumbed [19:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but if they're metal... you can thread it [19:56]
artifexd Every one I has is threaded [19:56]
artifexd That's how you connect the barbs. Screw 'em in. [19:57]
asciilifeform artifexd: neat. these weren't available a decade ago. [19:57]
mircea_popescu artifexd imo the interior/exterior distinction is spurious. both work the same way really. [19:57]
asciilifeform the ones i had were machined copper encased in a plastic water jacket, with plastic barbs (non-removable) [19:58]
artifexd Ew [19:58]
artifexd Most decent water blocks don't come with connectors at all. Just threaded holes. [19:58]
asciilifeform artifexd: then the answer is clear. 'teflon' tape on the threads, connectors glued (or welded, if copper hose) to the tube. [19:59]
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artifexd I don't think I would use copper tubes. My configuration changes too often. [20:01]
* asciilifeform was disappointed with water cooled machine even while it worked, on account of it still needing a few fans to operate: various parts for which no water block was available (chipset, mosfets, and power supply of that period) [20:01]
artifexd Waterblocks are available for just about everything now. It can take some looking. They aren't cheap. But they work well. [20:02]
asciilifeform artifexd: any that guarantee operation with 100% hermetically sealed case? (no case fans) [20:02]
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artifexd The heat has to go somewhere [20:03]
asciilifeform pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air [20:03]
asciilifeform my sole objective was to get a silent machine [20:04]
asciilifeform failed. [20:04]
artifexd Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps. [20:04]
artifexd My ears aren't near as sensitive as yours so I'm good with a few slow moving fans on the radiator. [20:05]
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asciilifeform artifexd: i used a 'toyota' radiator. [20:05]
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artifexd A guy I work with used a car radiator and an aquarium. [20:05]
artifexd Ugly as hell, but it seemed to work for him. [20:06]
artifexd My system is all contained in the case. [20:06]
asciilifeform artifexd: ancient photo of machine in question: http://imgur.com/uE4oR6X [20:07]
assbot imgur: the simple image sharer [20:07]
artifexd Is that pex? [20:08]
asciilifeform pex? [20:08]
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artifexd It's the plumbing replacement for copper. Flexible tubing. [20:08]
artifexd http://www.pexinfo.com [20:09]
assbot PEX Information [20:09]
asciilifeform artifexd: 'tygon'. [20:09]
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asciilifeform from chemistry supply [20:09]
artifexd Ah [20:10]
mircea_popescu pc mobo is encrusted with items like mosfets that presume circulation of air << not really. mostly actually cool through the metal of the pcb [20:10]
mircea_popescu if you keep the board cool they'll be fine [20:10]
asciilifeform now if only pcb had a 'water jacket' like engine block... [20:10]
mircea_popescu if you cool the bridges it'll cool through there. [20:11]
asciilifeform heuristic: if mosfet has even a small 'hedgehog', the board designer thought pcb trace cooling to be insufficient. [20:11]
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artifexd Unless it's an Asus board. Then the designers thought it would look cool. [20:12]
mircea_popescu i'm telling you, they'll be fine. you're thinking in terms of air movement removing heat, but even in a sealed case, [20:12]
mircea_popescu you still have heat conductivity. [20:12]
asciilifeform the box in question would croak after 48 hrs. or so if the case was not ventilated. [20:12]
mircea_popescu as long as you keep most of the board cool, mostfets can't make enough heat to cook themselves. [20:12]
mircea_popescu well, was this the toyota radiator thing in the image ? [20:13]
asciilifeform water line ran through two cpus, disk jacket, gpu. there was still some air circulation from power supply (conventional air cooling.) but sans case fan, machine would croak reliably. [20:13]
asciilifeform the mosfets did not cook themselves - internal thermal trip. you get a shutdown. [20:14]
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mircea_popescu how hot was the radiator getting ? [20:14]
asciilifeform about 40C, on a warm day. [20:14]
asciilifeform considering that it was designed to dissipate 100kw - reasonable. [20:15]
mircea_popescu were you cooling just the proc ? or bridges too ? [20:15]
mircea_popescu a, no, see, that's the key element here. [20:15]
asciilifeform idea was, bridges would be cooled by air drawn upwards by power supply fan. [20:16]
mircea_popescu Ah. Yeah. Blocks for motherboards are available. They cover the north bridge/south bridge and the power caps. <<< [20:16]
mircea_popescu nah. [20:16]
mircea_popescu you basically had no cold source on the pcb. all the things you cooled were meanwhile heating towards it. [20:17]
asciilifeform that box would have probably lasted forever if it never had to be moved. [20:17]
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asciilifeform if i were to attempt it again, i'd probably just machine a copper plinth in which the mobo can live, upside-down, with fins on bottom side. [20:19]
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asciilifeform if plinth is large enough, no need for water. [20:20]
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mircea_popescu the one similar thing i saw was purpose made copper tray filled with thermosilicone, on which pcb rested. [20:20]
mircea_popescu (no cpu involved, this wasn't a computer) [20:21]
asciilifeform this is SOP for large rectifiers, etc. [20:21]
asciilifeform you get a 'sarcophagus' similar to the one pictured in the $20k oscilloscope film. [20:21]
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asciilifeform that machine served me through all of uni & a bit longer. RIP 'humanoid', 2001-2007. (named after line from soviet film, approximately 'humanoid rockets through the sky, screaming out that school's a lie') [20:27]
asciilifeform freebsd 4. [20:29]
mircea_popescu i still have board/cpu assemblies from the 90s [20:31]
asciilifeform likewise. and '80s... [20:31]
mircea_popescu amusing how shitty psus became, incidentally. the originals usualy last > a decade. the replacements, maybe even 5 years. [20:32]
mircea_popescu then the replacements 2 if you're lucky. [20:32]
asciilifeform one can still achieve the 10+ life - by removing all chinese electrolytic caps and replacing with normal ones [20:33]
asciilifeform or, alternatively, purchasing a unit where there never were chinese caps (difficult now - the chicoms have taken to mimicking the japanese markings) [20:33]
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asciilifeform at some point the japanese parts will no longer get shipped in (won't pass the geiger at the container crane!) and then we'll really be phucked. [20:35]
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punkman http://domainincite.com/16963-a-million-domains-taken-down-by-email-checks [20:41]
assbot A million domains taken down by email checks | DomainIncite - Domain Name News & Opinion [20:41]
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punkman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Carton_de_Wiart [20:49]
assbot Adrian Carton de Wiart - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [20:49]
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mircea_popescu punkman the success of "domainers" and domains being "real estate" [20:57]
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mircea_popescu 10mn a year people had been paying just for those, in the hopes htey'll sell them on to suckers. something tells me 2013 had not colected 10mn worth of chump money. [20:58]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform or, who knows, maybe the chinese start making actually good parts. [20:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: now why would they make those for export. [20:59]
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asciilifeform (answer: they will - if you pay. but who will pay.) [20:59]
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* asciilifeform randomly wandered into an old book store last night, saw a textbook on romanian language. every chapter opened with some example of torments from the 'russian yoke.' [21:00]
* asciilifeform saw that it was shelved - unsurprisingly - next to a volume of pushkin, in russian. [21:00]
mircea_popescu lol [21:01]
mircea_popescu if you had wandered into bookshelv in vienna cca 1814, you'd have seen the same book [21:02]
mircea_popescu ottoman yoke. [21:02]
asciilifeform naturally. [21:02]
mircea_popescu who knows, maybe 514, roman yoke [21:02]
mircea_popescu zee romanians have this yoke thing. at the rate the eu is going... by 2114... [21:03]
mircea_popescu http://sniggle.net/cole.php [21:10]
mircea_popescu this guy is pretty good. [21:10]
mircea_popescu " When he stumbled on a road crew without a foreman one day, Cole leaped into the breach and directed the men to London’s busy Piccadilly Circus, where he had them excavate a huge trench in the street. A nearby policeman obligingly redirected the heavy downtown traffic all day, and it was several hours before the city noticed the unauthorized hole.” [21:10]
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penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/ken-park/ [22:00]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ever see pasolini's 'salo' ? [22:05]
mircea_popescu oddly you're the 2nd person to ask me this today. has it just been re-released or something ? [22:06]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/salo-o-le-120-giornate-di-sodoma/ [22:06]
assbot Salo, o le 120 giornate di Sodoma pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not afaik. just can't help but remember it in light of your post [22:06]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/soft-consensus-aka-fecal-matter/ (referenced there, and plenty of other places, [22:06]
assbot Soft consensus, aka fecal matter. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:06]
asciilifeform aha [22:06]
mircea_popescu in fact the monograph is a result of me getting sick of referencing it blind) [22:06]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2009/test-de-cultura-vizuala-2/ (early "visual culture test", too) [22:07]
assbot Test de cultura vizuala 2 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:07]
mircea_popescu nobody guessed it x.x [22:07]
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mircea_popescu o nm, actually, abuncha people guessed it. [22:08]
asciilifeform from the loltron: http://cryptome.org/2014/07/dprk-film-complaint.pdf [22:12]
asciilifeform ^ http://pastebin.com/WnmRuECG [22:12]
assbot United Nations A/68/934S/2014/451 General Assembly Security Counci - Pastebin.com [22:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform can you name a film where the us president (named) is killed ? [22:14]
mircea_popescu "It is their firm determination to mercilessly destroy anyone who dares hurt or attack the supreme leadership of the country even a bit." shit sounds like john cleese was the copywriter in charge. [22:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only him and no one else? [22:15]
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BigBitz Rik Mayll was helping before he died. [22:15]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform just as long as it's "obama was killed" [22:16]
mircea_popescu or w/e,. bush, ford, pick your incumbent. [22:16]
asciilifeform films like 'dr strangelove' where 'everybody dies' not count ? [22:16]
mircea_popescu nope. [22:16]
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asciilifeform 'They've Killed President Lincoln!' (1971.) [22:17]
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mircea_popescu BigBitz what was it, coke ? [22:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not depiction of actual historical event. [22:18]
BigBitz what was what amigo? [22:18]
mircea_popescu killed by the novie. [22:18]
mircea_popescu BigBitz rik mayll [22:18]
BigBitz You don't know Rik Mayll bud? [22:18]
mircea_popescu i dont recall how he died [22:18]
BigBitz Very funny English Comedian/Writer. [22:18]
BigBitz He died after a run. [22:18]
BigBitz heart attack/complications. [22:18]
mircea_popescu didn't he just have a mysterious coronary ? [22:19]
BigBitz I don't believe drug related. [22:19]
mircea_popescu aha. i always thought it was cocaine [22:19]
BigBitz Ah. I Hope not... I liked him. [22:19]
BigBitz Drugs be bad, yo! [22:19]
Apocalyptic pankkake, davout http://caccomo.blogspot.fr/ a decent blog I stumbled upon today [22:21]
assbot Chroniques en libert [22:21]
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asciilifeform 'The "extra" pinchers are attached to a LCR meter for the machine to "measure" each component before it put it down! You wont find that on the $5K Chinese machines!' << had no idea this existed. anywhere. [22:28]
asciilifeform (from http://www.ebay.com/itm/SMT-Pick-and-Place-Machine-Siemens-ms72-with-modern-GUI-includes-source-code-/171380699124) [22:28]
asciilifeform 'All of the mechanical stuff on this unit is from the 80's (When the mechanical stuff was great because the computers sucked)' << re: earlier discussion of power supplies. [22:29]
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mircea_popescu heh [22:31]
* asciilifeform would buy the above gadget but for the 3-phase mains - and the fact that it would fall through the floor. [22:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 772 @ 0.00210129 = 1.6222 BTC [-] {3} [22:42]
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fluffypony mircea_popescu:so how do i leave a comment or anything to this tom guy ? <- you can just Tweet @TomOnBTC [22:45]
fluffypony oh [22:45]
fluffypony wait [22:45]
fluffypony :-P [22:45]
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mircea_popescu lol [23:02]
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mircea_popescu i can only tweet @whatever for as long as he doesn't kill anyone. [23:03]
mircea_popescu bitcoin needs better infrastructure than that. [23:03]
fluffypony lol [23:03]
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asciilifeform needs better infrastructure than that >> blockchain telegraph! [23:12]
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mircea_popescu i bought a blockchain dildo the other day [23:22]
mircea_popescu still haven't unpacked it. [23:22]
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