Forum logs for 10 Sep 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | BingoBoingo though after last night believes FYIAD may become a standard #b-a retorn to hearnianites | [00:03] |
BingoBoingo | We hoard wealth, are conservative as hell, and eat idiots | [00:04] |
pete_dushenski | didn't dragons fight men noticably more heroic than the power ranger derp brigade ? | [00:05] |
BingoBoingo | And far less if you read up on Komodo dragon kills in WWII | [00:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14550 @ 0.0007518 = 10.9387 BTC [+] | [00:06] |
pete_dushenski | weapon of japanese army ? | [00:07] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Nah, hazard of fighting where the big danger isn't the explicit enemy | [00:07] |
BingoBoingo | For both sides | [00:08] |
pete_dushenski | biological landmines essentially | [00:08] |
BingoBoingo | Only in the sense that the predator in Predator II was a landmine for Danny GLover and the drug gangs | [00:09] |
pete_dushenski | never seen a predator movie, but can imagine | [00:09] |
BingoBoingo | Not a weapon, a more capble discounted enemy. | [00:09] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Predator II is actually one of the classics of its time | [00:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20250 @ 0.00075184 = 15.2248 BTC [+] {3} | [00:12] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.wsj.com/articles/japans-gangsters-find-extortion-no-longer-pays-forcing-yakuza-split-1441773870 | [00:15] |
assbot | Japan’s Biggest Mob Group Splits Under Money, Police Pressure - WSJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFxjm3 ) | [00:15] |
pete_dushenski | sorry if re-post | [00:15] |
pete_dushenski | still logging up | [00:15] |
pete_dushenski | "The Yamaguchi-gumi still boasts some 23,000 core and associate members, around 44% of all yakuza in Japan, according to police estimates. But membership has been shrinking along with an overall decline in yakuza groups, and Mr. Shinoda’s control has grown shakier. “The prolonged economic stagnation steadily chipped away at the yakuza’s financial clout,” " | [00:16] |
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pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269147 << it's really quite bad ass, the hummer. assuming the heater worked, i'd pick one up for $15k | [00:21] |
assbot | Logged on 10-09-2015 01:20:40; BingoBoingo: And the military hummer has a certain stotting value the Ford "King Ranch" doesn't | [00:21] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: How does the heater not work in a way that wouldn't be cheap to fix? | [00:22] |
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pete_dushenski | i have nfi what parts on a hummer'd cost | [00:22] |
BingoBoingo | It's just an extension of the engine's cooling system | [00:22] |
BingoBoingo | Parts roughly would cost one or two unlicensable or untitleable examples at most | [00:23] |
pete_dushenski | probably somewhere between monte carlo and maybach, but where, i know not | [00:23] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: which could be thousands. | [00:23] |
pete_dushenski | or double-digit percentage of purchase price | [00:24] |
BingoBoingo | Well, probably would cost somewhere between a Chevy monte carlo's breakpads and a maybach quarter panel | [00:24] |
pete_dushenski | lol sure | [00:24] |
pete_dushenski | $150 - $15k | [00:24] |
BingoBoingo | But for a car person pete_dushenski it sounds like you need friends in lower places. | [00:24] |
BingoBoingo | Fuck, a roadworthy chevy monte carlo can be had for $500 | [00:25] |
pete_dushenski | while in general this is most certainly true that i could use more lowerly placed contacts, i'm in no need of classic mercedes help | [00:26] |
pete_dushenski | i have what i need and more isn't hard to find | [00:26] |
pete_dushenski | but expensive to maintain any contacts if you don't need them | [00:26] |
pete_dushenski | solid web browser logs | [00:27] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1268238 << would be far more interesting if their website could be navigated. like at all. | [00:29] |
assbot | Logged on 09-09-2015 18:48:51; punkman: http://archillect.com/ | [00:29] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Well, the best band for buck autocontacts I know are the demolition derby crowd. They know the parts and cars that fail. | [00:30] |
pete_dushenski | ;;google alberta demolition derby | [00:32] |
gribble | Alberta demolition derby 09 - YouTube: |
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pete_dushenski | "The Wembley Demolition Derby is Proud to announce our 10th Anual Demolition Derby which is taking place on September 12th, 2015 at 11:00 a.m until 6:00 p.m." | [00:33] |
pete_dushenski | Anual ! | [00:33] |
pete_dushenski | definitely lower placed | [00:33] |
BingoBoingo | Nah, They've got cultural standards to conform to. | [00:33] |
pete_dushenski | oh sweet, webley alberta is only a 5 hour drive away | [00:35] |
pete_dushenski | *wembley | [00:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11503 @ 0.00075194 = 8.6496 BTC [+] | [00:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17033 @ 0.0007512 = 12.7952 BTC [-] | [00:39] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Every year I've got a combine (as in the farm equipment) and car demolition derby on back to back days hundreds of feet aways | [00:41] |
pete_dushenski | and do you go ? | [00:42] |
BingoBoingo | some years, usually if I go for the big tractors | [00:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18350 @ 0.00075201 = 13.7994 BTC [+] {2} | [00:44] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1268355 << complete with ALWAYS-ON MICROPHONE. awesome. | [00:48] |
assbot | Logged on 09-09-2015 19:28:28; trinque: but we made a new iPhone | [00:48] |
pete_dushenski | apple's equivalent of 'hello google' or whatever that motorola had last year | [00:49] |
pete_dushenski | so yes, hanging out with girls and their iphone 6s' is a liability. welcome to the future. | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | it's for in case they get raped. | [00:53] |
pete_dushenski | or if a guy says "hey cutie" | [00:54] |
pete_dushenski | gotta capture the moment | [00:54] |
pete_dushenski | share on social medias | [00:55] |
pete_dushenski | for popularity | [00:55] |
mircea_popescu | guys still do that ? | [00:57] |
pete_dushenski | now BingoBoingo has me looking as muscly old off-roaders. and this is too, too sharp in red http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-G-Class-5-Doors-/262036024935?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d02906e67&item=262036024935 | [00:58] |
assbot | Mercedes Benz G Class 5 Doors | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1iyeBAf ) | [00:58] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: for sure. | [00:58] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Isn't it? | [00:58] |
pete_dushenski | big time. | [00:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31607 @ 0.00075335 = 23.8111 BTC [+] {4} | [01:00] |
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BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Since I missed my last fiat window I've been looking also at the basic Chevy Blazer ZR-2, cheap 2 door beasts | [01:02] |
BingoBoingo | Take out the back bench and there's a solid looking living area | [01:02] |
pete_dushenski | aha, the rollover kings those things | [01:02] |
BingoBoingo | Hard to beat the Ford exploder for rollover champion, but the early 70's GTO pony car is a serious competitor | [01:03] |
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BingoBoingo | It is an enginering balance though. Attack angle versus rollover potential | [01:04] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: you'd love the f-150 raptor | [01:05] |
BingoBoingo | And fret the expense of every scratch versus having expendable machines plural at the ready? | [01:06] |
BingoBoingo | Raptor is also rather wide and long for an off roader | [01:06] |
ben_vulpes | ;;ticker | [01:08] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 238.98, Best ask: 239.04, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 238.98, 24 hour volume: 13735.96112931, 24 hour low: 238.38, 24 hour high: 245.57, 24 hour vwap: None | [01:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32599 @ 0.00075003 = 24.4502 BTC [-] {2} | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ka7ic/bitcoin_is_not_visa/cuwcz3y << why the fuck is reddit so racist ? | [01:11] |
assbot | StubNuts comments on Bitcoin is not Visa. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LlidMT ) | [01:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00074955 = 20.1629 BTC [-] | [01:12] |
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ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: btw that piece was invictus, not br | [01:18] |
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mircea_popescu | ? | [01:19] |
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ben_vulpes | the numbers-fudging piece | [01:21] |
BingoBoingo | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269269 << Because, they see you rolling, they hating | [01:22] |
assbot | Logged on 10-09-2015 04:09:34; mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ka7ic/bitcoin_is_not_visa/cuwcz3y << why the fuck is reddit so racist ? | [01:22] |
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ben_vulpes | thestringpuller: that recent piece isn't half bad | [01:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00074955 = 11.0184 BTC [-] | [01:28] |
pete_dushenski | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3k8uez/youth_are_the_killer_app_of_bitcoin/ << "After many failed attempts at convincing friends/family/co-workers that Bitcoin is beneficial, one of my Minecraft server players asked me about it. I decided to send over $10 worth on Circle just so he could experience it first-hand. I didn't expect much, since he's young he might not understand even some basic financial c | [01:29] |
pete_dushenski | oncepts. I was shocked that within 30 minutes of sending, he was already linking bank acounts to Circle and signing up for multiple sites such as purse.io" | [01:29] |
assbot | Youth are the 'killer app' of Bitcoin. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFCLp4 ) | [01:29] |
pete_dushenski | i loled at this one | [01:29] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269052 << i routinely aced ME tests simply by virtue of knowing basic linear algebra transformations and how to solve sets of equations with the calculator. | [01:29] |
assbot | Logged on 10-09-2015 00:25:20; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the 'equation solver' is actually half of why people bought the thing | [01:29] |
ben_vulpes | despite having nominally progressed through the *exact same curriculum*, my 'peers' never mastered this 'one simple trick'. | [01:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00075508 = 2.0765 BTC [+] | [01:31] |
ben_vulpes | i too had an 89 | [01:32] |
ben_vulpes | and the misfortune of replacing it with the 89 'titanium' | [01:32] |
ben_vulpes | which 'featured' perceptible delays between keypress and screen render. | [01:32] |
pete_dushenski | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlJkec-CQRM << bitcoinica 'taint' analysis | [01:32] |
assbot | Bitcoinica Theft with unusual transaction to Theymos - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LljvHO ) | [01:32] |
trinque | speaking of which, asciilifeform could you provide a hash of some sort for your derive.exe ? | [01:33] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: i seem to be to only one here who used ti-83 | [01:34] |
pete_dushenski | 83 not an american thing ? | [01:34] |
ben_vulpes | oh no i had one in middle school | [01:35] |
ben_vulpes | quite adequate, rather nifty | [01:35] |
pete_dushenski | aha. | [01:36] |
pete_dushenski | we used 83 up to grade 12 | [01:36] |
ben_vulpes | and probably worked...just fine! | [01:36] |
pete_dushenski | university was 'fits in head' | [01:36] |
asciilifeform | trinque: i signed it! see log | [01:36] |
ben_vulpes | where did you top out in maths, pete_dushenski? | [01:37] |
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pete_dushenski | entry-level calc | [01:37] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: the '83' was actually mandatory at the school i went to. but normally the warde^H^H^H^teacher wouldn't notice if you had something vaguely shaped like '83' | [01:37] |
ben_vulpes | did your stats as well? | [01:38] |
asciilifeform | aha | [01:38] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: yup. part of 'med school' path i once walked along | [01:38] |
asciilifeform | i think all the ti widgets had stats | [01:39] |
pete_dushenski | maybe i misunderstood 'stats'... | [01:39] |
pete_dushenski | thought ben_vulpes was referring to uni course | [01:39] |
ben_vulpes | ^^ | [01:39] |
ben_vulpes | whence the fork, pete_dushenski? | [01:39] |
BingoBoingo | [01:40] | |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: 3rd year. after i didn't get in off waiting list for med school in ireland that year, i never reapplied. | [01:40] |
* | BingoBoingo spent two weeks of dishwashing checks on ti-89 senior year for the AP calc test | [01:41] |
asciilifeform | trinque: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/derive.zip.sig | [01:41] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFDHK6 ) | [01:41] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: didn't have the grades to stay in canada, decided to make most of opportunities closer to home. not entirely 'for girl' but in no small part was this the consideration. | [01:41] |
trinque | asciilifeform: interesting; I found another one on some math uni site | [01:42] |
mircea_popescu | [01:42] | |
asciilifeform | trinque: there are several versions floating around, including v6 for winblowz | [01:42] |
mircea_popescu | couldn't be bothered to | [01:42] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Big problem with F-150 'raptor' is it is too wide and long. Off road demands oppisite virtues of penis | [01:43] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: the funny part is ~why~ they were required | [01:43] |
mircea_popescu | whyssat ? | [01:43] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: they actually tried to force the kidz to memorize key sequences for various statistical ops | [01:43] |
mircea_popescu | oh ffs | [01:43] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [01:43] |
mircea_popescu | see, school i went to took the exact opposite path. | [01:43] |
asciilifeform | hey, if microshit excel can be a class | [01:43] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: unless 'off-road' is baja dunes, then same. | [01:43] |
BingoBoingo | [01:43] | |
mircea_popescu | we were doing the cantor proof in 10th grade. what's the use of a calculator for that ? | [01:44] |
BingoBoingo | pete_dushenski: Or just inclines and rocks in general | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | math anal was like 40% fundaments of math. | [01:44] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: the funnier part still is that the childrenz cooperated eagerly, because you could play 'tetris' and 'dope wars' on the thing | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | i still dunno who drew up that zany curr, but i loved it. prolly gavra. | [01:44] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: snake ! | [01:44] |
mircea_popescu | oh chgeck im out, he's the prodean now! | [01:45] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269148 << at 2x stella's cost, i'd get one | [01:46] |
assbot | Logged on 10-09-2015 01:22:43; BingoBoingo: $12,000-$15,000 also fits the sweet spot for "toy" vehicles. Less than people pay for a boat and more than they can sell it for. | [01:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00074953 = 18.2136 BTC [-] {2} | [01:46] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: one day someone will explain to me the point of buying a $megabuck machine to sit in traffic jam in. | [01:46] |
asciilifeform | does mazerati idle more luxuriously at the red light than ford pinto ? | [01:46] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: the ti game, snake ;) | [01:46] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform if there's black chicks working the street next to you they'll look at you ? | [01:47] |
ben_vulpes | "baby we need a military hum-v" | [01:47] |
ben_vulpes | "think of how many babies we can put in it!" | [01:47] |
BingoBoingo | [01:47] | |
ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: well that's your problem for living in congestion hell. | [01:47] |
ben_vulpes | not much i can explain to a man sinking into quicksand about the joys of hard land. | [01:47] |
mircea_popescu | some people build roads to have where to park, some people build roads to have where to drive. #truefax! | [01:48] |
BingoBoingo | ^^ | [01:48] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/cantorth.htm << for those, like yours truly, ignorant of 'cantor proof' mentioned by mircea_popescu | [01:48] |
assbot | Georg Cantor, Cantor's Theorem and Its Proof ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFE736 ) | [01:48] |
ben_vulpes | ("it's only like 2 vintage sports cars!") | [01:48] |
BingoBoingo | Oh shit I now own #truefax | [01:48] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-09-2015#1269157 << shut. up. | [01:49] |
assbot | Logged on 10-09-2015 01:50:19; BingoBoingo: shinohai: My hometown made a FTTH project a few years ago, obliterated themselves and the other ISPs by installing the big laser backwards | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski or from the days before logs : http://trilema.com/2013/squares-do-morals-a-porno/#footnote_9_49613 | [01:49] |
assbot | Squares do Morals. A Porno. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFEdI3 ) | [01:49] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: No seriously at the time the local FTTH gig, the cable co, and the phone co all rented the same inbound fiber line. | [01:50] |
BingoBoingo | Now just cable co and phone co share line. FTTH had to get bigger line | [01:50] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: hehehe | [01:50] |
ben_vulpes | jesus shit | [01:51] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Also phone co still has microwave tower as a fallback | [01:51] |
ben_vulpes | well that's nuts. | [01:51] |
BingoBoingo | But people using microwave over serious distance make it too expansive to put mere phone calls on it | [01:51] |
BingoBoingo | Welcome to middle west reality ben_vulpes | [01:52] |
ben_vulpes | expansive or expensive? | [01:52] |
BingoBoingo | both | [01:52] |
ben_vulpes | beam, cost | [01:52] |
BingoBoingo | All | [01:52] |
ben_vulpes | you and alf with the gawdawful quality-of-life, i swear... | [01:53] |
asciilifeform | hey not everybody is rich | [01:53] |
ben_vulpes | what rich?! | [01:54] |
asciilifeform | that rich. | [01:54] |
ben_vulpes | right parents. | [01:54] |
ben_vulpes | right geography. | [01:54] |
BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Hometown may have congested pipes, but has open roads | [01:54] |
ben_vulpes | i drove from my office to the heart of downtown in ten minutes today in the middle of rush hour | [01:54] |
ben_vulpes | what about those roads isn't open | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | so im seeing some maybe interesting errors. | [01:56] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: ?? | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | 1sec, im prepping. | [01:56] |
* | asciilifeform was about to sleep but will stay awake for this | [01:56] |
ben_vulpes | argh and google maps has nuked the "type anything and get directions function" | [01:56] |
ben_vulpes | (a 2.4 mile drive, i must point out) | [01:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.00074953 = 16.1149 BTC [-] | [01:59] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://punix-os.blogspot.com/2012/03/first-time-real-calc.html << possibly of interest to you | [01:59] |
assbot | Punix OS: First time real calc! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KFEZom ) | [01:59] |
* | ben_vulpes tenterhooks | [01:59] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform ~20 mins | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | i was about to sleep also | [02:00] |
* | ben_vulpes resigns self to logs | [02:02] |
BingoBoingo | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/--b58Fer1BZw/VaSGOESUfOI/AAAAAAAAMEk/PrTJbNzHTqk/s400/8cd3631ac0567459431880c72a5a9ccb192ec65f8f57e8afa6c39565d7db6ab9_1.jpg | [02:04] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1UIngvO ) | [02:04] |
asciilifeform | http://cdn.omg-facts.com/2013/2/7/36a5cd01a61e425274ac73c3726e0151.jpg | [02:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1UInoLZ ) | [02:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00074953 = 7.1205 BTC [-] | [02:07] |
* | asciilifeform to bed | [02:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15607 @ 0.00074922 = 11.6931 BTC [-] {2} | [02:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16243 @ 0.00074589 = 12.1155 BTC [-] | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | SigOpCount out of bounds : 4219 occurences ; nonstandard tx types : 99695 occurences. | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform if you're still around | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | 44821 nonstandard txout ; 54874 nonstandard txin | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | also getting spammed with unsolicited old blocks. about 2k/hour or so. all in the 200k range. | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | (this in particular is a very clever ddos vehicle for the bitcoin tx relay network, because the inept implementation generates a lot of such spurious nonsense anyway) | [02:20] |
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mircea_popescu | https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3k8mmx/so_im_running_out_of_space_on_my_home_directory/ << meanwhile at the lolfarms. | [02:40] |
assbot | So I'm running out of space on my home directory and the btc blockchain is like 50Gb, How do I move it to another drive? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1OepfIs ) | [02:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28887 @ 0.00074502 = 21.5214 BTC [-] {3} | [02:49] |
cazalla | http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-09/national-facial-recognition-system/6761266 "It keeps Australians safe.." | [02:55] |
assbot | Facial recognition: Privacy advocates raise concern over 'creepy' system Government says will enhance national security - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeqzeH ) | [02:55] |
mircea_popescu | "safe". | [02:58] |
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