Forum logs for 10 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov we have had ads saying: Everything Is Scam, Only Milk Is Water [00:00]
mircea_popescu hahaha [00:01]
kakobrekla win http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=MENjFkEAj9g&NR=1 [00:03]
mircea_popescu awesome kakobrekla [00:08]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1260084#msg1260084 i wonder who he means ? [00:10]
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TooTnBooT mircea_popescu - Who do you think he means? [00:15]
mircea_popescu TooTnBooT possibly gavin. [00:15]
mircea_popescu then again, aspies are aspies. [00:16]
TooTnBooT Interesting. [00:16]
TooTnBooT So possibly when he decided to legitimately acknowledge being a Bitcoin developer, he wanted to separate the fact that he holds millions in BTC? [00:16]
mircea_popescu it's dubious he holds millions. [00:17]
mircea_popescu at the time mining became really a public endeavour block count was ~20k. that'd be one million. [00:17]
mircea_popescu i guess if he never sold anything and mined a majority of those first 20k blocks he could have 1mn. [00:18]
Ukto hmm [00:20]
dub oh hey, pirate is paying back this weekend [00:20]
TooTnBooT dub - funny [00:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00031143 = 2.5537 BTC [+] [00:21]
Ukto in a system.. if last trade was a buy at say.. 1.5... and there is a sell at 1.75 that goes through, even though the price is higher than the last trade, woudl you mark that as an up or down for last trade? [00:21]
mircea_popescu TooTnBooT and who might you be ? [00:21]
Ukto cause in theory it was a downward aimed sell [00:21]
mircea_popescu Ukto + [00:21]
mircea_popescu its up from last trade, so + [00:22]
kakobrekla assbot would say + [00:22]
Ukto so it takes 2 sell's work to declare a down? [00:22]
TooTnBooT mircea_popescu - I was in here asking about investing a week or so ago. You criticized my knowledge. [00:22]
kakobrekla Ukto it can be 2 buys [00:23]
kakobrekla or a sale and a buy [00:23]
kakobrekla or a buy and a sale [00:23]
mircea_popescu TooTnBooT how's that worked out for you ? [00:23]
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Ukto i jsut figured that a sale, would be aimed down [00:23]
Ukto lol [00:23]
mircea_popescu Ukto it takes the price oflast sale going under the price of prev last sale [00:23]
Ukto yeh [00:23]
* Ukto sighs [00:23]
kakobrekla Ukto it doesnt matter what is it [00:23]
kakobrekla each sale is a buy [00:24]
kakobrekla and each buy is a sale [00:24]
TooTnBooT I sold all my S.Dice passthru shares and withdrew from GLBSE, so it worked out well actually. [00:24]
kakobrekla in effect [00:24]
kakobrekla only numbes matter [00:24]
mircea_popescu wd on that score lol [00:24]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla he's thinking in booktaking terms, but you're right its irrelevant. [00:24]
Ukto yeah, i am just talking display purposes [00:25]
mircea_popescu TooTnBooT so were you saying you were going to prove that any asset in glbse is better than mpex stuff or what ? [00:25]
TooTnBooT I don't know anything about mpex. [00:25]
kakobrekla Ukto depends what you are displaying then [00:25]
TooTnBooT You may be confusing me with someone else. I was complaining about S.Dice. [00:25]
TooTnBooT I've never seen mpex. [00:25]
mircea_popescu ... [00:26]
dub its THE bitcoin securities exchange dont you know [00:26]
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TooTnBooT dub - I guess I don't know. [00:27]
dub oh wait, theres that cryptostocks one [00:27]
TooTnBooT THE exchange I used is no more. [00:27]
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kakobrekla its in the friggin topic. [00:30]
kakobrekla meh, people. [00:31]
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rdponticelli kakobrekla: Nobody looks at the friggin topic... [00:37]
kakobrekla i know [00:37]
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kakobrekla people. [00:37]
rdponticelli I don't even have it enabled [00:37]
kakobrekla i come from a time and place where one got +b for not reading it [00:38]
rdponticelli Well, if you fix quassel, I promise I'll enable it again, and even read it [00:38]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1260129#msg1260129 i see this is going admirably well... [00:39]
kakobrekla i havent been following it closley enough [00:40]
kakobrekla why arent we getting payed yet again? [00:40]
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mircea_popescu because bitcoin. [00:41]
kakobrekla aha [00:41]
kakobrekla makes sense. [00:41]
jcpham dafuq [00:41]
kakobrekla ill just wait! [00:41]
kakobrekla :) [00:41]
rdponticelli Irreversible payments, remember? [00:42]
rdponticelli Ask bulanula [00:42]
jcpham magnets [00:43]
jurov today i asked deadterra about GSDPT but he got no information from glbse at all... and that one can be solved without moving any bitcoins [00:44]
jurov dunno why they're waiting [00:45]
rdponticelli But you would be asking nefario to stop counting coins to do something else entirely related... [00:45]
rdponticelli *unrelated [00:46]
rdponticelli That's not an option [00:46]
mircea_popescu someone was asking me about gsdpt earlier too. sad fact of the matter is, w/o actual shareholder lists there's jackshit anyone can do. [00:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2757 @ 0.00031137 = 0.8584 BTC [-] [00:47]
mircea_popescu and that faces serious problems because glbse never used gpg keys. and so... [00:47]
mircea_popescu fuckall knows. [00:47]
rdponticelli The tickets to pirate's island must be expensive... [00:47]
mircea_popescu at least we can estimate the expenses of taaki, strateman and the rest of the scammergroup [00:47]
mircea_popescu they need about 100k usd a year to keep going. [00:48]
mircea_popescu whether it comes from bitcoinica user funds, glbse user funds or w/e else, it's the rake,. [00:48]
rdponticelli So, how many bitcoinicas a year? [00:48]
mircea_popescu they got like 30k or so bitcoin there, right ? btc was about 5 ? [00:48]
mircea_popescu now they got like 8k or so here, btc is about 12.5 [00:48]
mircea_popescu works out. [00:49]
rdponticelli Yeah, cool business [00:49]
mircea_popescu what exactly anyone would have to be thinking to deal with any of them in the future is beyond my mere human comprehension. [00:50]
rdponticelli BTW: Patrick, Amir and Donald aren't tagged, right? [00:50]
mircea_popescu well atm neither is theymos, so. [00:50]
rdponticelli They'll have to try harder... [00:50]
mircea_popescu far as i'm concerned they're tagged. [00:51]
mircea_popescu ;;rated genjix [00:51]
gribble You rated user genjix on Fri Sep 28 02:51:20 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: there's that entire bitcoinica mess to be cleared.. [00:51]
rdponticelli ;;rated genjix [00:51]
gribble You rated user genjix on Sat Jul 14 10:35:57 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more.. [00:51]
rdponticelli I've been meaner than you... [00:52]
mircea_popescu and apparently much earlier [00:52]
rdponticelli That's not easy [00:52]
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mircea_popescu i only slapped him when he came in a week ago to "vouch" for scamfarion. [00:52]
rdponticelli It was after they emptied the mtgox account [00:53]
chmod755 ;;rated genjix [00:53]
gribble You have not yet rated user genjix [00:53]
rdponticelli They had delayed so much the process... [00:53]
rdponticelli And suddenly, that [00:53]
rdponticelli If it was not malice, it was deep incompetence [00:54]
rdponticelli It's a -10 anyway [00:54]
mircea_popescu im satisfied that they stole it. [00:54]
chmod755 ;;gettrust genjix [00:55]
gribble Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user genjix: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 1 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=genjix [00:55]
chmod755 hm [00:55]
rdponticelli ;;rated phantomciruit [00:55]
gribble You have not yet rated user phantomciruit [00:55]
rdponticelli ;;rated phantomcircuit [00:55]
gribble You rated user phantomcircuit on Sat Jul 14 10:35:46 2012, giving him a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: Sorry, guys, but until the bitcoinica incident gets completely sorted out, IMHO you can't be trusted with a single satoshi more.. [00:55]
chmod755 ;;gettrust phantomcircuit [00:56]
gribble Trust relationship from user chmod755 to user phantomcircuit: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=chmod755&dest=phantomcircuit [00:56]
chmod755 O.o [00:56]
jcpham rumor has it that chmod755 is satoshi [00:56]
jcpham the one and only [00:56]
chmod755 jcpham, what? [00:56]
dub I can tell by the writing style and having seen quite a few satohsis in my time [00:57]
jcpham I thought you were satoshi nakamoto [00:57]
chmod755 ;;whois chmod755 [00:57]
gribble chmod755~ (~chmod755@unaffiliated/chmod755) has been on server zelazny.freenode.net since 10:50 AM, October 09, 2012 (idle for 1 second) and is on #bitcoin-otc, #bitcoin-dev, #bitcoin, and #bitcoin-assets. [00:57]
chmod755 ;;seen satoshi [00:57]
gribble I have not seen satoshi. [00:57]
chmod755 jcpham, i'm not [00:57]
jcpham that's fine [00:57]
mircea_popescu dub also photoshop am irite ? [00:57]
jcpham i'll talk with the rumor people then [00:57]
chmod755 jcpham, which rumor people? [00:57]
jcpham the ones who rumor? [00:58]
chmod755 WHERE? [00:58]
jcpham over there. [00:58]
jcpham you know [00:58]
jcpham I don't remember now who told me [00:58]
chmod755 jcpham, MrTiggr? :d [00:59]
jcpham maybe [00:59]
jcpham i couldn't out my sources [00:59]
dub thats a point actually [00:59]
dub re: nefario, has anyone called the Bitcoin Police? [01:00]
chmod755 dub, no [01:02]
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chmod755 ;;tz melbourne [01:06]
gribble Tue Oct 09 22:06:14 2012 UTC | 9:06am Wednesday (EST) - Time in Melbourne VIC, Australia [01:06]
chmod755 dub, feel free to call the bitcoin police :p [01:06]
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jcpham me dials ;;911 [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1275 @ 0.00031137 = 0.397 BTC [-] [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52651 @ 0.00031136 = 16.3934 BTC [-] [01:12]
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dub theres quite enough chronic masturbation in my life already [01:20]
Doffx I called the Sesame Street police, I have a feeling Big Bird and the crew will have just about the same effectiveness in the matter. [01:25]
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dub jeez, i mention bitcoin police and suddenly im getting a rectal exam [01:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00031136 = 0.1868 BTC [-] [01:37]
Doffx By Big bird No less. [01:38]
Doffx They dont call him Big Bird for nothing nudge nudge [01:39]
dub thats why Romney loves him [01:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.10637201 = 1.0637 BTC [+] [02:00]
Diablo-D3 [06:20:52] theres quite enough chronic masturbation in my life already [02:02]
Diablo-D3 dub is a member of the GOP? [02:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 48 @ 0.00316777 = 0.1521 BTC [+] [02:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16057 @ 0.00031143 = 5.0006 BTC [+] [02:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50811 @ 0.00031247 = 15.8769 BTC [+] [03:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20489 @ 0.00031136 = 6.3795 BTC [-] [03:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5560 @ 0.00031136 = 1.7312 BTC [-] [03:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35998 @ 0.00031129 = 11.2058 BTC [-] [03:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00339998 = 6.8 BTC [+] [03:50]
smickles aw, c'mon <@assbot> [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.10637201 = 1.0637 BTC [+], the p140t is a better deal, i'm sure [03:51]
mircea_popescu lol why ? [03:52]
mircea_popescu it dipped under 11 b4 [03:52]
smickles ;;calc 11-(.10637201*[ticker --last]) [03:55]
gribble 9.72908849892 [03:55]
mircea_popescu nah that's not correct. [03:55]
smickles ;;calc 14-(.25780139*[ticker --last]) [03:55]
gribble 10.9198405526 [03:55]
mircea_popescu .py (11 - 9.72908849892) / 9.72908849892 - 9.72908849892 [03:55]
markac -9.59845843001 [03:55]
mircea_popescu .py (11 - 9.72908849892) / 9.72908849892 - 0.10637201 [03:56]
markac 0.0242580589136 [03:56]
smickles the calc i did isn't the break even point? [03:57]
mircea_popescu nope. [03:57]
mircea_popescu at the price you propose there's a 0.02xx btc profit [03:57]
mircea_popescu per contract. ie 20% [03:57]
smickles strike - premium isn't breakeven for puts? [03:57]
mircea_popescu strike - thenprice / thenprice [03:58]
mircea_popescu is then-value of puts [03:58]
mircea_popescu then you substract premium from that [03:58]
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mircea_popescu put110t is worth 10btc per contract if btc/usd = 1 [03:59]
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kakobrekla ;;seen usagi [04:00]
gribble usagi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 17 hours, 47 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: We own 2000 shares.. should be good if glbse comes up :/ [04:00]
kakobrekla no wonder is so quiet. [04:01]
mircea_popescu lol [04:01]
mircea_popescu he owns "malicious criminal libel" in google you knwo. [04:02]
jcpham not quiet enough [04:02]
kakobrekla hm mp? [04:02]
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mircea_popescu .g "malicious criminal libel" [04:03]
markac mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112927.0 [04:03]
kakobrekla a. [04:04]
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smickles ;;calc (14-[ticker --last])/[ticker --last] - .2578139 [04:06]
gribble -0.0862657828452 [04:06]
smickles ;;calc (11-[ticker --last])/[ticker --last] - .10637201 [04:06]
gribble -0.18586991795 [04:06]
smickles is that not a better deal on the 14? [04:07]
mircea_popescu smickles depends where it ends up going [04:09]
mircea_popescu always the time value of an option will be a larger part of its total value the closer the strike is to current price [04:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.000312 = 1.1544 BTC [+] [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40202 @ 0.00031129 = 12.5145 BTC [-] [04:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24498 @ 0.00031122 = 7.6243 BTC [-] [04:16]
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rdponticelli lol, thanks for analizing so deeply my little trade, smickles and mircea_popescu [04:37]
mircea_popescu lol [04:37]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/2g/3E/ACzC6Q1/hrm.png [04:38]
kakobrekla so [04:38]
kakobrekla these are sorted by date [04:38]
rdponticelli And, yes, the time value is why I tend to buy put of as low as a strike as possible [04:38]
kakobrekla how does phrausts rating make sense? [04:38]
rdponticelli Just as an insure [04:38]
kakobrekla (date is last change) [04:38]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla maybe ? [04:39]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust pirateat40 [04:39]
gribble Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user pirateat40: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 22 via 19 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=pirateat40 [04:39]
kakobrekla maybe what [04:39]
mircea_popescu maybe it makes sese. [04:40]
mircea_popescu i could envisage situations in which it made sense. [04:40]
smickles heh, rdponticelli i just wanted you (well, i suppose it was you now) to buy some of my puts :p [04:40]
rdponticelli Do you sell puts? [04:40]
smickles rdponticelli: the 269 left on http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=O.BTCUSD.P140T [04:41]
rdponticelli Oh... [04:41]
rdponticelli lol [04:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2417 @ 0.00031259 = 0.7555 BTC [+] [04:41]
mircea_popescu smickles you need a newsletter for your brokerage customers :D [04:43]
smickles kakobrekla: maybe it was >1, but was lowered to 1 afterthe bad news [04:43]
rdponticelli I don't even use to look at orders books of puts of too high a strike [04:44]
rdponticelli As mircea said, almost all of it's value is time based [04:44]
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BitcoinBear claim process opened on glbse,com [04:53]
BitcoinBear log in to get your bitcoins [04:53]
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mircea_popescu o hey! [04:54]
smickles what? [04:55]
Azelphur oO, yay [04:56]
mircea_popescu seems so. [04:56]
Azelphur yea, it wants photo ID [04:57]
Azelphur so I'm fucked o/ [04:57]
smickles no way? [04:57]
Azelphur yes way [04:57]
smickles D: [04:58]
Azelphur To comply with money laundering regulations we must ask you to submit documents for proof of your address and identity.Picture of your IDPlease provide a clear picture of your photo ID. For France, Germany, Spain, and English speaking countries ID cards, Passports and drivers licences are accepted, for everywhere else only passports are accepted. [04:58]
dub oh hey, GLBSE has been upgradede, quite fast nao [04:58]
Azelphur not sure wtf I'm supposed to do, I don't have a passport or drivers license [04:58]
dub wat [04:58]
mircea_popescu ffs. [04:58]
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mircea_popescu well so at least now we know [04:59]
Azelphur yea [04:59]
mircea_popescu lol dud [04:59]
mircea_popescu dub* [04:59]
Azelphur shame nefario isn't here, I really need an alternative way of verifying [04:59]
Azelphur unless I go apply for a passport and come back in like 6 weeks [04:59]
Azelphur :/ [04:59]
dub youy should get a passport and drive to britain [04:59]
smickles Azelphur: support@glbse.com [04:59]
dub to verify with him personally [05:00]
Azelphur dub: step 1) get a passport and drive to where I already am [05:00]
Azelphur smickles: good idea, I'll send him an email [05:00]
kakobrekla lol srsly [05:00]
kakobrekla i wont give my pass to nef for my 5 smickes shares [05:00]
smickles Azelphur: i might have his personal email, one sec [05:00]
JWU42 well - as a verified asset issuer this is BS [05:00]
Azelphur smickles: fun [05:00]
JWU42 already went through all this once - he doesn't need another copy of this that he can lose [05:01]
rdponticelli Fuck them [05:01]
dub feds need copies in triplicate [05:01]
JWU42 haha [05:01]
rdponticelli I'll have to take a passport to recover my fucking assets? [05:02]
mircea_popescu dub should get a special hat./ [05:02]
kakobrekla i wont do it. [05:02]
dub mircea_popescu: wai? [05:02]
mircea_popescu cause you're funnay. [05:02]
thestringpuller Who gets sent physical bills anymore? I have to call my tax commissioner to get proof of resident? Such an inconvenience... [05:03]
mircea_popescu anyone else got their heat runnign yet ? [05:03]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller so pull some strings. [05:03]
thestringpuller lol I don't think it's worth it. Cut da losses. [05:03]
kakobrekla yep [05:04]
kakobrekla i down like 5 btc [05:04]
thestringpuller Serves me right for trusting someone who codes a website with bootstrap. [05:04]
dub I'd like to cut something [05:04]
mircea_popescu Serves me right for trusting someone who codes a website with bootstrap. << this. [05:04]
thestringpuller They probably use mysql :P [05:04]
thestringpuller With all the money they were raking it shoulda gotten an oracle license [05:04]
kakobrekla ;;rate nefario -10 scammer [05:06]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user nefario has been recorded. [05:06]
thestringpuller LOL [05:06]
thestringpuller Poor nefairo [05:06]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust nefario [05:06]
thestringpuller Nefario* [05:06]
gribble Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user nefario: Level 1: -1, Level 2: -4 via 6 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=nefario [05:06]
mircea_popescu i guess hisnew and legit exchange will hit the ground runnin [05:07]
smickles aw fuck [05:07]
smickles I just moved, i have no proof of address [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26463 @ 0.00031122 = 8.2358 BTC [-] [05:07]
thestringpuller After he goes through 4 years of paperwork [05:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53937 @ 0.00031122 = 16.7863 BTC [-] [05:07]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller at an estimated cost of 8mn a year. [05:07]
kakobrekla ;;rate nefario -10 rich scammer [05:07]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user nefario has changed from -10 to -10. [05:08]
mircea_popescu which he certainly has access to [05:08]
mircea_popescu [05:08]
dub I read that as 'the estimated cost of a 9mm' [05:08]
dub and I though, now there is a solution! [05:08]
mircea_popescu lol [05:08]
thestringpuller someone should invent a p2p dividend paying system [05:08]
thestringpuller called accounting 101 =P [05:09]
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Azelphur I just sent this to nefario lol http://pastebin.com/dCxCs8qr [05:09]
[\] So whats to stop nefario from using all of these documents to commit identity theft? [05:09]
[\] he isn't licensed [05:09]
[\] he doesn't have a personal bond [05:09]
dub he's an awesome dude? [05:09]
dub and wouldnt fuck us ever [05:09]
[\] lol [05:09]
mircea_popescu lol that'd be the end all. nefario takes off with some k btcs and sells everyone's ids on SR [05:09]
[\] exactly [05:10]
mircea_popescu then like... makes a video from puerto vallerta [05:10]
thestringpuller You can find his address if you put glbse.com into the networksolutions whois [05:10]
thestringpuller but I heard doxing is bad mmmkay [05:10]
Azelphur who.is is the best for DNS info [05:11]
knotwork https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117453.msg1260985#msg1260985 [05:11]
Azelphur :P [05:11]
thestringpuller so if people's identity leaked I see him getting beat up maybe? [05:11]
[\] he's asking for the same info that I'd be required to present to get a replacement state id [05:11]
[\] he could get a government id in my name [05:11]
[\] and I'm supposed to just give it to him? [05:11]
[\] LOL [05:11]
thestringpuller and your first born child [05:11]
smickles jebus, even my lease is electronic [05:12]
[\] all of my utility bills are electronic [05:12]
smickles I haz no proof of address within nef's requirements [05:12]
[\] and let's face it, a picture of 'me' holding my name/date on a piece of paper could be photoshopped [05:13]
mircea_popescu NO ASS ET&C FOR YOU [05:13]
[\] this isn't 1998 anymore [05:13]
mircea_popescu [\] you should totally photochop some [05:13]
mircea_popescu like, obama holding one [05:13]
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mircea_popescu we should have like a photochop contest [05:13]
[\] is it illegal to submit false docs to nefario? [05:13]
[\] :-x [05:13]
mircea_popescu it's illefarian [05:13]
grubles illefarian [05:14]
grubles im stealing that [05:14]
grubles thx [05:14]
mircea_popescu yw [05:14]
mircea_popescu rule 4 waiver hereby. [05:14]
[\] what's rule 4? [05:14]
grubles rule 4: give all ideas to grubles [05:14]
thestringpuller Lol, FoxConn goes on strike apple plummets 15%+ [05:15]
[\] oh, right [05:15]
grubles step 2. profit [05:15]
grubles step 3. keep all profit [05:15]
thestringpuller a month for short selling [05:15]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: does make me wonder if I photoshopped a passport if it'd work [05:16]
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Azelphur baring in mind I don't actually have one [05:16]
[\] lol Azelphur [05:16]
mircea_popescu can't hurt anything. [05:16]
Azelphur xD [05:16]
mircea_popescu actually, chop a few wh8ile you're at it. [05:16]
Azelphur I sent him an email asking if there's any way I can alternatively auth for now, anyway [05:16]
[\] I would think auth'ing via 2fact is enough to prove I am me [05:16]
Azelphur I'm quite happy to auth (heck, my address is on my DNS whois, it's all obvious) xD [05:16]
[\] it was for 6 months or however long it was [05:16]
smickles well, i can confirm that you can't just skip the photo upload [05:18]
kakobrekla DNS record != passport copy [05:18]
Azelphur kakobrekla: never said it was XD [05:18]
thestringpuller "spread your cheeks and lift your sack" [05:18]
kakobrekla you act like it is. [05:18]
Azelphur no, I don't. [05:19]
grubles thestringpuller, that only applies if one is afro-american [05:20]
smickles kakobrekla: i'm sure he was just pointing out that he doesn't care if people know his addy [05:20]
Azelphur ^ is what I was trying to do :p [05:21]
smickles btw, i don't either [05:21]
smickles mine is: [05:21]
smickles 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6 [05:21]
* Azelphur high fives [05:21]
Azelphur haha [05:21]
smickles o/ [05:21]
[\] he can have a copy of my sensitive documents just as soon as I get a copy of his surety bond [05:21]
abracadabra sensitive documents? [05:23]
abracadabra -.- [05:23]
[\] yeah [05:23]
[\] copy of government id, utility bill [05:23]
[\] all the things required to get valid government id in my name [05:23]
[\] oh, ok [05:23]
[\] sure, steal my identity [05:23]
[\] first my coins, now my usd [05:23]
Diablo-D3 .... [05:23]
Diablo-D3 [10:21:52] <[\]> he can have a copy of my sensitive documents just as soon as I get a copy of his surety bond [05:23]
Diablo-D3 lawyerporn. [05:23]
* abracadabra applies for driver's license... First Name? \ Last name? \ [05:23]
noagendamarket http://omgdroid.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/RageFace.jpg My photo ID [05:23]
[\] lol [05:24]
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noagendamarket e2NqYu1gBiUxAZgiOQ9pIhgJiNZ1ojulvM+NwbXI4dwFkLASMwAOYA8wZ1o+mmo672ugpK+BkdW0rJRh1rlOxfpMxNvEBMaQbbAeIKAVnk0DmD1FN+9GLxP1Bwt8Ktx0tsCqsIfUOpI9dOtVk6SeOSi2t/IUosaINeFs9/lSH9IW8+JwX6PwbujyGzIpkqF8XLQmTpyp7wTsLa5mzGBLEAEn0GlcsmGUIKbezKTV1Rowby+dbKp8vhSlvBv6tjH2cP8AsHS6SORYDJHodT60bxuMyNBdxPYCK8fVzl00FOa2Z2wY1llSCBZqwC1Brm2EUEtdcAczlFU23rs/+9c1PPKsV81faSfCfyPY+jrkZiDXgTHOltt5rQbLxrmYfur0FY/1RZyzxrkAxyXnzq/2h9zM9J94w3JOjQR8vjRDD7cttKYkI [05:25]
[\] wtf [05:25]
smickles ? [05:25]
noagendamarket QNQzCQTJ/Zy6QDEzSg28KZgvFuEmNIXkah2rjwEBzP7Q0IHUH8KqHXxc1F+TH00oxtf1M4YuSfGnM+73pY3z3jZHWxzmC5VZAnlqB8adMNsEGRmIgnp/mpLm7X7/wAq+Z0+PLCevRa/FR7suTHKNaq/I5hc28XlgPqrAEEqRmJ5QMsmW1jsKr43EXltrefLF0mAJLazqVC6CPvFdUTdqf2/kKk/0wPf+X+a+h38y4x/UeTt4fM/kcn2nthrRW1AJWGaASMzCYmOggHSmvdW3cuA4hyoZ5y5oERpyIkU0jdsSfEfs/zUq7rfvfL/A [05:25]
Diablo-D3 this isnt css. [05:25]
noagendamarket fuck [05:25]
smickles noagendamarket: what are you doing? [05:25]
[\] he pasted an image in here [05:25]
[\] data:image/jpeg;base64,/9 [05:25]
smickles oh lol [05:25]
Diablo-D3 I love data encoded urls in css, btw [05:25]
[\] quick, someone put it back together [05:26]
Diablo-D3 saves a fuckton on uselessly tiny images [05:26]
noagendamarket http://i.imgur.com/0z0zp.gif [05:26]
Azelphur Word on the street is that when you actually give it your passport / drivers license it just throws 413 errors. [05:26]
kakobrekla yeah ill give nefario my pic, but its gonna be this one http://shrani.si/f/22/Pg/2vwHW4QN/94211314332323786455114n.jpg [05:26]
kakobrekla not fake. [05:26]
smickles lol [05:26]
noagendamarket lol [05:27]
[\] ahhhh, kiddie pr0n [05:29]
Azelphur the other fun part is that I'm planning on moving soonish [05:29]
Azelphur so, any info I provide now [05:29]
Azelphur will be invalid in <2 months [05:29]
noagendamarket I dont have any proof of address or even ID [05:29]
noagendamarket Im a ghost :P [05:29]
Azelphur noagendamarket: welcome to the club [05:29]
Azelphur well I have some proof of address, but no photo id [05:30]
noagendamarket I have a PO box lol [05:30]
noagendamarket No fixed address [05:30]
noagendamarket and no utility bills :P [05:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16174 @ 0.00031122 = 5.0337 BTC [-] [05:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31100 @ 0.00031121 = 9.6786 BTC [-] [05:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24626 @ 0.00031115 = 7.6624 BTC [-] [05:32]
dub I live under a bridge [05:33]
dub how will I recover my DMC share now [05:34]
noagendamarket thats the point :( [05:34]
noagendamarket very few people will bother [05:34]
grubles dub, tithe at #bitcoin-church [05:35]
kakobrekla thats why i commented my rating rich scammer [05:35]
kakobrekla pirate is a poor scammer [05:35]
noagendamarket if he donates the leftover coins to the bitcoin foundation Ill be pissed lol [05:35]
smickles someone should liberate that db and wallet [05:36]
dub I was thinking [05:36]
dub thats actually not a bad plan [05:36]
smickles i don't think it would even be theft [05:37]
grubles dub, no Luke-Jr is not allowed [05:37]
mircea_popescu rtheft ? [05:37]
dub instead of gitmo/SEC holiday camp, nefario could have his data stolen the hacker benevolently returning everyones shit [05:37]
Luke-Jr grubles: you really want to recruit trolls? [05:37]
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smickles dub: ideally, yes. even taking a fee for services rendered would be better than this [05:38]
dub sounds like business plan [05:38]
smickles 5% sounds fair to me [05:38]
dub a notquitedeadmans switch [05:38]
mircea_popescu what i want to know is [05:39]
smickles that's going to net them a fair amount of btc [05:39]
mircea_popescu what fucking money laundering would be going on with glbse ? [05:39]
mircea_popescu EVERYTHING THERE LIOST MONEY [05:39]
dub lol [05:39]
mircea_popescu it's moeny laundering or money shrinking ? [05:39]
grubles Luke-Jr, maybe...i like living life on the edge [05:39]
mircea_popescu glbse is that asshole laundromat that shrinks your load. [05:39]
noagendamarket it works if you issue mining turds [05:40]
smickles heh, what's the cupizz code? [05:41]
smickles EvanR: tanking [05:41]
* dub passes the hat to mircea_popescu [05:41]
mircea_popescu smickles cusip you mean ? [05:42]
mircea_popescu dub thankee pardner [05:42]
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dub do issuers need to re-verify to get the info I wonder [05:46]
mircea_popescu they need to re-issue [05:46]
dub if I have no btc or shares in my account because I only issued an asset, why cant the email address for my account recieve shareholder data (assuming shareholders verify)? [05:47]
Ukto I cant login to my glbse account? [05:47]
Ukto whats up [05:47]
Ukto heh [05:47]
Ukto wow [05:57]
Ukto nefario is really going out of his way to try to kill things [05:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 783 @ 0.00031115 = 0.2436 BTC [-] [05:57]
mircea_popescu btw folks once you send your id stuff to nefario cc them to me too [05:58]
mircea_popescu who knows, maybe i need some id's sometime. [05:58]
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[\] I think nef should hire zhou [06:02]
[\] at least then we'd figure out who the hacker was in about 10 minutes [06:03]
[\] and then get 49% of our coins back [06:03]
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dub dude this is cut and dried intersango process [06:04]
mircea_popescu i agree with my forespeakers. [06:05]
[\] didnt nef work for intersango? [06:05]
mircea_popescu yes. [06:05]
dub he's certainly familiar to those scamming fucks IRL [06:05]
mircea_popescu they're a little group, that london failference was pretty much them and streetwalkers. [06:06]
rdponticelli UK has always been full of pirates [06:06]
dub theymos, phantom, gengix, nefario.. its a scammers anal chain [06:06]
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Ukto so this is funny. in nefario's speach here in this video http://youtu.be/vmPD_YSQ--k he talks about how you dont need to provide id for glbse. [06:08]
Ukto :P [06:08]
Ukto thats the advantage [06:08]
Ukto sounds like a lie [06:08]
dub no [06:08]
Ukto at roughly 4min in [06:09]
dub it sounds like like like like like like like like like a like lie [06:09]
mircea_popescu lol [06:09]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ut-1Ofy2vI dub you remind me of this guy [06:09]
dub that video is one second too long to remind you of me [06:10]
mircea_popescu lol [06:11]
Ukto how much more gouging is he requiring for issuers? [06:11]
smickles /item/7a9ac139d2 << lol [06:12]
pigeons what kind of id is he requiring? [06:12]
smickles pigeons: passport, drivers [06:12]
pigeons and then i guess he needs to "review" it? [06:12]
pigeons shit [06:12]
pigeons just give it all back and be done [06:12]
smickles pigeons: also a photo of a document proving address [06:13]
pigeons shoe on head too? [06:13]
smickles sort of [06:13]
smickles a photo of yourself with a paper signed "glbse" and your username [06:13]
smickles specifically a 'clear' photo [06:13]
pigeons that's unprecedented [06:14]
Ukto no writing "/b" on your hand in a photo? [06:14]
pigeons its not like the usernames and passwords wer eleaked and he needs to verify [06:14]
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toffoo so how exactly are the "assets" going to be returned to you? [06:18]
mircea_popescu pigeons : shoe on head, sharpie in pooper and stfu. [06:18]
pigeons personal delivery [06:19]
B0g4r7 I ain't giving Nefario so much as a pic of my big middle finger. [06:20]
Ukto he's gonna make out like a bandit heh [06:20]
B0g4r7 Funny you should use that term. [06:21]
mircea_popescu lol [06:21]
mircea_popescu B0g4r7 start a forum thread [06:21]
Ukto pun intended. dont worry [06:21]
mircea_popescu "Fuck you nefario. No ids. Cough up the lists" [06:21]
mircea_popescu if enough people sign... this won't go anywere in a DIFFERENT WAY from the way nefario was going to have it nowhere [06:21]
mircea_popescu which seems like... i dunno, a sort of win. [06:22]
Ukto "You said just a few weeks ago, the advantage of GBLSE is no AML requirements" *link to youtube* [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19337 @ 0.00031115 = 6.0167 BTC [-] [06:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29200 @ 0.00031102 = 9.0818 BTC [-] [06:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13263 @ 0.00031087 = 4.1231 BTC [-] [06:23]
B0g4r7 Ukto: Post it. [06:24]
B0g4r7 in the thread [06:24]
Ukto [22:06] so this is funny. in nefario's speach here in this video http://youtu.be/vmPD_YSQ--k he talks about how you dont need to provide id for glbse. about 4min in [06:24]
Ukto go for it [06:25]
Ukto i dont touch forums [06:25]
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noagendamarket http://www.encyclopediabitcoinica.com/wiki/GLBSE [06:27]
Ukto ? [06:28]
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B0g4r7 Nice domain. [06:31]
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B0g4r7 Posted. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117539.msg1261229#msg1261229 [06:34]
B0g4r7 Does anyone else have the urge to slap this Rarity poster silly? [06:40]
mircea_popescu that's useless. [06:41]
mircea_popescu you need a new thread, and an actual ideea for people to gather round. [06:41]
B0g4r7 I think that's more your specialty. [06:41]
mircea_popescu lol [06:41]
mircea_popescu anyway, im off. hold down the fort all! [06:42]
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mircea_popescu Update:we are currently unable to process account closures, and will inform our users when this service resumes. [17:29]
mircea_popescu lmao [17:29]
mircea_popescu any suckers that already dumped their ids ? [17:30]
Azelphur nice [17:30]
kakobrekla lol [17:30]
kakobrekla beyond silly. [17:30]
Azelphur I wonder why it's closed [17:30]
rdponticelli Update:we are currently unable [17:30]
mircea_popescu this is so bitcoin consultancy-y [17:31]
rdponticelli That's the end of the sentence [17:31]
rdponticelli It could be mentally unable [17:31]
rdponticelli Or a lot of others thing, just fill the gap [17:31]
rdponticelli I guess they all have corsair patents [17:34]
rdponticelli And are stealing for the crown [17:35]
pigeons sorry we accidentaly the database and are unable to process [17:35]
rdponticelli The old british empire is back [17:35]
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mircea_popescu pigeons but its bycrpt [17:38]
pigeons can't hack bcrypt of course [17:39]
rdponticelli Anyway, as they deserve some fucking respect, they're not corsairs, they're all just privateers [17:39]
mircea_popescu best solution on the market. [17:39]
mircea_popescu rdponticelli privateers they're not, they go running to the govt way too often and in ridiculous ways [17:40]
pigeons ok then, sorry, we have been served a restraining order and are unable to process [17:40]
pigeons Dr. Nefario, Esq. [17:40]
mircea_popescu pigeons : today when we were at the mcdonalds the waitress looked at us a certain way and on the napkins was certain scribbled something from the prevbious patron who was this suspicious guy [17:40]
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mircea_popescu therefore we consider we have been served a restraining order by the algerian president and will not be processing anything [17:41]
mircea_popescu fify. [17:41]
rdponticelli mircea_popescu: privateers were often hired by the government [17:41]
mircea_popescu no they weren't [17:41]
mircea_popescu "The person that controls this address should be someone honorable that everyone trusts. And maybe he should be anonymous because the intend of this bounty maybe isnt fully legal." [17:42]
mircea_popescu people in bitcoin. they're the intellectual cream of the crop [17:43]
mircea_popescu mixed with a good scraping off the bottom of the barrel. [17:43]
JWU_42 I sent James a note asking why he needs my dox when he has them already (I verified before) [17:43]
JWU_42 teust i will never get a response [17:43]
JWU_42 trust* [17:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52800 @ 0.00031226 = 16.4873 BTC [+] [17:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16350 @ 0.00031134 = 5.0904 BTC [-] [17:49]
Ukto *yawn* morning [17:59]
Ukto so, anyone dareing enough to send nef. docs yet? [17:59]
Azelphur Ukto: the owner of bitinstant tried and got 413 errors [17:59]
JWU_42 he already has mine [17:59]
Ukto lol [18:00]
mircea_popescu Ukto it's finished, they have an update, "can't process" anymore. [18:00]
Ukto lol nice [18:00]
Ukto JWU_42: his plan worked for me. I checked my records, I had left 2btc there + whatever divs my 30 shares of JAH produced since may. [18:02]
Ukto He can have it. I will not give him any docs. [18:02]
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mircea_popescu Ukto i'd be surprised if 10% of accts give docs [18:03]
mircea_popescu i doubt he didn;'t know this. it's just scam furtherance is all. [18:03]
Ukto I would be surprised if ti was that high [18:03]
Ukto well [18:03]
Ukto lets be honest its one of wo possibilities, A. either further scammation, and attempt to conceal embezzled funds. B. Epic stupidity. At this point, I put neither past him. [18:05]
Ukto Either way, he already won. [18:05]
mircea_popescu "won" [18:05]
mircea_popescu he already ran off with people's money. yes, he did. [18:05]
Ukto he doesnt say what happens to the assets and funds of those who dont submit docs [18:05]
Ukto sure he wont accept them for years [18:05]
Ukto surely [18:05]
mircea_popescu well... he has to, doesn't he ? [18:06]
mircea_popescu aml docs must be kept for 7 years. [18:06]
Ukto no, I ment to accept account claims [18:06]
Ukto he cant leave "claims" system open for years [18:06]
EskimoBob but you guys know where hi lives and what's his name. :) [18:07]
Ukto at some point it gets shut off and what.. he just gets to keep the remaining everything? anony contacts issuers "heres my shares" [18:07]
Ukto and claim divs from that? [18:07]
Ukto EskimoBob: and what he looks like. [18:07]
Ukto I am honestly surprised he would pull this, after going to that bitcoin london conference [18:07]
EskimoBob so, friends from Ukraine can drill holes to his kneecaps for almost nothing (compared to what he stole) [18:08]
Ukto i am partially leaning towards epic stupidity coupled with second hand scamming [18:08]
Ukto though, its funny, in that video, he mentioned he needed $200 REALLY badly. [18:08]
jcpham what video [18:08]
Ukto 1 sec [18:08]
Ukto http://youtu.be/vmPD_YSQ--k [18:09]
Ukto he mentioned how he needed $200 SOOO BADLY for some sponsorship stuff at one point [18:09]
Ukto cause he couldnt wait for a gox xfer [18:09]
Ukto keep in mind, glbse didnt profit that much off of trades guys [18:10]
Ukto this isnt mtgox volume [18:10]
Ukto his internet was via tethered cell phone [18:10]
jcpham you know if someone were to partner with me with a decent idea [18:11]
jcpham you wouldn't ever have to beg for 200$ [18:11]
EskimoBob stupid little man James McCarthy [18:12]
jcpham ijs [18:12]
jcpham $200 is a couple hours work [18:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17491 @ 0.0003101 = 5.424 BTC [-] [18:14]
mircea_popescu Ukto they were making about 4-500 each month [18:17]
mircea_popescu course, also had a huge debtload they were paying off. [18:17]
Ukto heh, mebbe recently [18:18]
Ukto at least in may, nefario seemed pretty broke [18:18]
mircea_popescu his personal finances aren't much related to the results of glbse [18:19]
mircea_popescu they depended on how much "salary" he could leach off the partners [18:19]
mircea_popescu leech* [18:19]
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EskimoBob "I would consider meeting this criteria if nefario were to provide me with a HD photo of his passport, drivers licence, 2 utility bills and a picture of him holding a note saying "you must be fucking joking" and a hot chick doing "bunny ears" on him." - LOL :) [18:21]
mircea_popescu this is unfair. how's the guy to find a hot chick now ? [18:22]
mircea_popescu if it were at all possible it'd have happened in his 20s [18:22]
DeaDTerra I just finished off a talk with James :) [18:23]
DeaDTerra We had a good laugh about all the paranoid people on the forums :P [18:23]
mircea_popescu o hey, welcome to my ignore again! [18:25]
da2ce7 darkee| DeaDTerra Diablo-D3 dub dvide [18:25]
DeaDTerra!*@* added to ignore list. [18:25]
mircea_popescu this guy has got to be stupid or something. [18:25]
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teek So during all this usagi flew the coop eh [18:36]
Ukto though to be honest [18:36]
Ukto for the 90% who dont give ID, etc.. how are the asset issures supposed to 'continue their relationship' [18:36]
Ukto how are the issuers supposed to continue at all [18:36]
Ukto "well, i have identified 5% of my shares ownerships. guess I go with that" ? [18:37]
Ukto what does he expect? [18:37]
Ukto what stops nefario from using ppl 'codes' and anon-claiming to be a share holder to an issuer [18:37]
Ukto mostly for the ppl who dont ID within X [18:38]
Ukto With all this, and his paranoia, ppl knowing his name, face, etc, I am surprised he's trying to piss ppl off [18:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00031103 = 10.1707 BTC [+] [18:40]
Ukto he needs to just reenable the site, let ppl 'transfer shares' w/o penalty and a note to distinguish themselves to the issuers [18:40]
Ukto and be done with it [18:41]
jcpham you better not ignore me mircea_popescu [18:41]
Ukto 0,o [18:41]
jcpham i'll start a smear campaign about something [18:42]
EskimoBob DeaDTerra: wtf is James? [18:43]
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Chaang-Noi ukto a code system wont work [19:01]
Ukto regardless [19:02]
Ukto a system wont work if nefario wont give out everyones assets [19:02]
Chaang-Noi joelcatz or whatever his name is has covered this about 10 times on the forum very well. [19:02]
Chaang-Noi yeah [19:02]
Ukto he is witholding things unless ppl give him all sorta id's [19:02]
Chaang-Noi neferio is just being a cock [19:02]
Ukto yes, yes he is [19:02]
Ukto however [19:02]
Ukto while the code system wont allow ppl to trade offline [19:02]
Ukto it would allow the importation of the assets [19:02]
Ukto into another system [19:02]
Chaang-Noi people have been trading tygrr codes already [19:03]
Ukto which is dumb [19:03]
Ukto any system woudl be first come first serve [19:03]
Ukto on code submission [19:03]
Ukto OR [19:03]
Ukto they need to contact you [19:03]
Ukto and ask you to MAKE new code [19:03]
Ukto to give out [19:03]
Ukto lol [19:03]
Ukto :P [19:03]
Ukto thats the ONLY way that could work [19:03]
Ukto and i dont think u wanna do that [19:03]
Chaang-Noi well... read what joel says about it, anyone with a valid code can just call the aset issuer a scammer [19:03]
Chaang-Noi even if it was stolen in the email or hacked or sold... [19:04]
Ukto true [19:04]
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Ukto technically [19:05]
Ukto at this point [19:05]
Ukto the whole assets setup is "compromised" [19:05]
Ukto due to nefario [19:05]
Ukto he has however many shares he says he has [19:05]
Chaang-Noi yes he could use 1/2 the codes [19:05]
Ukto at this point, the issuers and asset holders have no choice but to trust at least the issuers, or get out [19:05]
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Chaang-Noi anyone trusting nefario the scammer is foolish [19:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33600 @ 0.00031285 = 10.5118 BTC [+] [19:06]
Chaang-Noi ukto i keep talking to you in pm and you dont respond [19:08]
Ukto im not getting any msgs [19:08]
Chaang-Noi takes me a while to catch on why... [19:08]
Ukto your not [19:08]
Ukto lol [19:08]
Ukto yeah [19:08]
Ukto you need to be identified [19:08]
Ukto :P [19:08]
Chaang-Noi anyway i wish you the best of luck but sadly i have to sleep now. [19:08]
Chaang-Noi good night everyone [19:08]
Ukto llater [19:09]
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Ukto Chaang-Noi: I'm gonna need it! :P [19:10]
Chaang-Noi im sure you will do fine :) [19:11]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5225 @ 0.00031103 = 1.6251 BTC [-] [19:32]
Ukto DeaDTerra: did he mention why he wants aml now? after saying it would not be needed a few weeks ago? and waht he will do with the unclaimed assets/btc held? [19:45]
Ukto i think he realised his delima with this, and thats why he put a hold on accepting id's [19:46]
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Ukto i honestly dont think he's "trying" to scam ppl, i think he's just making some bad decisions [19:47]
rdponticelli He's not "trying" to scam people, he's ACTUALLY scamming people, been that his willing or not [19:50]
Ukto its always all about Point of View. someone can do things for all the rights reaons to them, but to everyone else, it can be the worst actions for the worst reasons. such is mankind [19:51]
Doffx I like the idea of just opening the damn site and letting use send our assets to the asset creator with an email or something. [19:53]
Doffx However I'm sure the reason he doesn’t do that is because people would also expect to get their btc as well in the account. [19:53]
Ukto yeh [19:54]
Ukto well [19:54]
Ukto he could lock down btc withdraw [19:54]
Ukto to only ID'd ppl [19:54]
Doffx That's what makes him a scammer [19:54]
Ukto at least ppl can claim their assets [19:54]
Doffx Its not his BTC to hold on to. [19:54]
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Doffx The assets are just a note of transaction really, the btc being held up is unacceptable. [19:55]
Ukto agreed. thats his own issue to deal with [19:55]
Ukto i only suggest the asset as a partial solution [19:55]
Doffx Yeah, it would certainly help if he opened that up. [19:55]
Ukto most ppl have most of their money invested in the shares [19:55]
Ukto not just sitting in their accounts [19:56]
Doffx Yeah, I only have .09 btc in the account. [19:56]
Ukto i think most ppl would agree to say fuck their holdings, in exchange for tehir btc [19:56]
Ukto err [19:56]
Ukto fuck the btc, in exchange for their assets [19:56]
Ukto which is prolly worth the most of the two [19:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 400 @ 0.00031285 = 0.1251 BTC [+] [19:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3039 @ 0.0003129 = 0.9509 BTC [+] [19:57]
Ukto if he holds back anyones assets, for any reason [19:57]
Ukto then the issuer cannot just move on [19:57]
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Ukto and he is therefore contridicting himself [19:57]
Ukto and might as well just shutdown the server [19:57]
Ukto and dissapear [19:57]
Ukto there was either no forethought, or not enough when he did this [19:58]
Ukto unless his intentions are actually to scam ppl [19:58]
Ukto he needs to consider carefully what that means [19:58]
Doffx I doubt that, he could have done that long ago. [19:59]
rdponticelli https://btcst.com/login [19:59]
rdponticelli Website still there... [19:59]
Ukto if he is having an internal battle over legalities of giving ppl their stuff w/o id, thats a problem he has to bite the bullet on, and move forward doing, because chose to not require id in the first place [19:59]
Doffx He got himself in some sort of trouble now that apparent, and if there is any government involvement we know how much worse they make it. [19:59]
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Ukto if it was govt intervention, the site would just go down [20:00]
Ukto and not come back [20:00]
Ukto no one would get 'assets' back [20:00]
Ukto that would be illegal [20:00]
Ukto even if he was given a cease and desist [20:00]
Doffx If pirate pays out I could just write Glbse off and still be waaaay ahead. [20:00]
rdponticelli Everything looks just like stalling tactics [20:01]
Ukto that would not require him to take ppls id's [20:01]
Ukto and the govt doesnt want 1,000's of ppl id's [20:01]
Ukto to send them all to jail [20:01]
Ukto thats not how it works [20:01]
rdponticelli But if he really is a fucking, evil scammer, he can do a lot with id [20:01]
rdponticelli He can open thousands of glbses on behalf of every sucker who send his id to him [20:02]
rdponticelli He can open bank accounts, traverse borders, and who know how many other things [20:03]
rdponticelli Imagination is the limit [20:03]
Ukto he has to bite the bullet and not require id [20:03]
Ukto there is no way it will work [20:03]
Ukto w/o a scammer tag [20:04]
Ukto and possibly legal issues from holders [20:04]
Ukto and govt fraud investigations [20:04]
smickles ;;ticker [20:04]
gribble Best bid: 11.97002, Best ask: 12, Bid-ask spread: 0.02998, Last trade: 12, 24 hour volume: 29194, 24 hour low: 11.711, 24 hour high: 12.15 [20:04]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [20:04]
gribble 11.98 [20:04]
rdponticelli At this point we all should be supposing he's an evil scammer [20:04]
Ukto until he proove himself [20:04]
Ukto thats what he is [20:04]
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Ukto and the longer he takes, the longer and stronger the tag will get, regardless of his righting things [20:05]
rdponticelli That's right [20:05]
smickles Ukto: still chatting about what happened 'yesterday' or is this something new? [20:05]
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rdponticelli I rated him -1 a couple of days ago [20:05]
Ukto smickles: id acceptance is closed [20:05]
rdponticelli Now it's a -5 [20:05]
rdponticelli In a couple of days more, he's getting the -10 if he doesn't show good faith [20:06]
smickles ;;rated nefario [20:06]
gribble You rated user nefario on Fri Oct 5 17:57:26 2012, giving him a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: seems to have broken contracts and screwed over many people for his own ass. [20:06]
gp5st anyone here interested in helping write a trading bot? I have a vague idea of financial strategies and am a decent programmer, so I would mainly be looking for someone to advise on financial strategy. Or be able to point me to more information? [20:06]
Doffx I cant blame him for saving his own ass. [20:06]
Ukto ;;getrating nefario [20:07]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User nefario, rated since Tue Jul 12 19:55:49 2011. Cumulative rating -19, from 15 total ratings. Received ratings: 6 positive, 9 negative. Sent ratings: 2 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nefario [20:07]
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smickles gp5st: i wrote one already,what language are you considering [20:07]
kakobrekla 19:07.01 ( Doffx ) I cant blame him for saving his own ass. [20:07]
Doffx I wonder how many people here would not tried to save their own ass first haha. [20:07]
kakobrekla you cant blame hashking too then [20:07]
kakobrekla lol [20:07]
kakobrekla and pirate [20:07]
kakobrekla jeez [20:07]
kakobrekla he is only saving his ass [20:07]
gp5st smickles: there are a bunch out there, I kind of wanted to do it as an exercise. I was thinking ruby to start [20:07]
kakobrekla cant blame him. [20:07]
Doffx It doesn’t make it right [20:07]
gp5st smickles: what lang was yours in [20:08]
Doffx My point was more, everyone here would most likely save their own ass first. [20:08]
Ukto DeaDTerra: but what about those who cant or dont want to provide their id's? [20:08]
Ukto amd why wont he just come talk to people [20:08]
smickles gp5st: well, actually i wrote one in java and the other in python, python worked out better [20:08]
Ukto thats the worst part [20:08]
Ukto is that he wont talk to people [20:08]
smickles gp5st: so ruby should be fine [20:08]
gp5st smickles: how come the python bot worked better? [20:08]
Ukto i'm sure [20:09]
Ukto he should have throught it through alot more thouughly then just pulling the plug [20:09]
Doffx Maybe I used the wrong words. [20:09]
gp5st smickles: i thought it would be a fun exercise and an opportunity to learn more about trading in general [20:09]
Ukto i agree, screw forums heh [20:09]
Ukto but still, if he came here of all places [20:09]
smickles gp5st: because java ate memory like nothing else, and the mechanize library in python made things a lot easier, i think ruby has mechanize too [20:10]
Ukto and said "hey guys, i am shutting down for legal reasons. and working on a plan" [20:10]
Ukto ppl would be alot more understanding [20:10]
kakobrekla he is a criminal now [20:10]
Ukto now its making him into more of a criminal [20:10]
Ukto because it was not handled right [20:10]
gp5st smickles: gotchya. it does [20:10]
Ukto he does have limited internet, i agree with that [20:10]
Doffx Its always the lack of information I hate. [20:10]
Ukto yes [20:11]
Ukto if he had even spent 5 minutes writing a paragraph on glbse [20:11]
Doffx No one knows what the hell is going on. [20:11]
Ukto AT FIRST [20:11]
gp5st smickles: where did you find various strategies to implement? [20:11]
Ukto ppl would have been more willing [20:11]
kakobrekla my funds are as good as stolen [20:11]
Ukto DeaDTerra: can you blame teh community for treating someone who is acting like a sscammer, as a scammer? [20:11]
Ukto the problem is, the website goes offline [20:12]
kakobrekla its already happend [20:12]
Ukto ppl waited [20:12]
Ukto a week [20:12]
smickles gp5st: mostly i was reading various financial articles, academic stuff which I found in a university library [20:12]
Ukto then he tells ppl to go trhough near impossible hoops [20:12]
Ukto and gives no details [20:12]
gp5st smickles: yeah, my next step was the libary [20:12]
smickles gp5st: then I started coming up with my own ideas based on theose and observed the market closly for some time [20:12]
Ukto iwhen i saw glbse went down [20:12]
Ukto i went to email nefario to ask if I could help [20:12]
Ukto as i have tried to help in the past [20:13]
Ukto no response [20:13]
Ukto no info [20:13]
Ukto on anything [20:13]
smickles gp5st: bitcoin's marked is small, so look at analisys of penny stocks in the academic papers, good stuff [20:13]
Ukto i think its great that he talked to you [20:13]
gp5st smickles: thanks! [20:13]
Ukto the problem with that, is he didnt give anything to work with [20:14]
smickles gp5st: np [20:14]
knotwork gp5st an interesting strategy I would like to have bot try would be keep an average price a given thing has cost so far per unit for what it has of it so far, and buy any it can afford that are cheaper [20:14]
knotwork obviously not a really active strategy and likely to buy too soon when price falls so maybe not very good [20:14]
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knotwork but then could maybe be improved by buyung only with part of its spending-money [20:15]
knotwork so it would get to buy little bits at a time as price falls [20:15]
Ukto DeaDTerra: death threats or not, he needs to be more open and communative [20:15]
Ukto thats te bottom line [20:15]
Ukto or it will make things worse [20:15]
Ukto hiding, and staying quite wont help him get less threats [20:15]
Ukto and be less of a target [20:15]
knotwork a defnsive strategy basically, not aggreessive at all [20:15]
Ukto quiet [20:15]
Ukto even [20:15]
Ukto as I said [20:16]
Ukto right now [20:16]
Ukto he is damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt [20:16]
Ukto his lawyer should have told him that [20:16]
Ukto he has 2 choices [20:16]
Doffx How is he backed in to a corner? [20:16]
Ukto possible govt actions [20:16]
Ukto aginst him [20:16]
Doffx Unless a lawyer is saying dont say a word or something [20:16]
Ukto or possible asset holder actions [20:16]
Ukto aginst him [20:16]
Ukto correct [20:16]
Doffx He doesn’t give a flying fuck about the btc community right now I'm sure [20:17]
Ukto but he has, he has relayed via you [20:17]
Ukto would you not testify in court taht you talked to him? [20:17]
Doffx If hes in legal hot water hes looking at saving himself first, this was my point from before. [20:17]
Ukto so if they bring ou phone records, you would deny their existance? [20:17]
knotwork it also would not "make" money so its purpose would be its who you give your investment budget to, it spends that budget only if doing so results in it got a lower average price for what it bought [20:17]
Doffx Do you know that for sure? [20:18]
Ukto sore ppl who have 10,000$ invested, who dont trust him with their id's and want to sue him, or open govt fraud investigations on him, is not putting him in legal hot water? [20:18]
Doffx If hes not then where the hell is he? [20:18]
Ukto or life threatening situations? [20:18]
knotwork it would have been slaugtered on GLBSE though as everything just went into free-fall forever unto worthlessness ;) [20:19]
gp5st smickles: in your experience what would be a "successful" weekly ROI? 0.1%? [20:19]
JWU_42 DeaDTerra: agreed... [20:19]
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JWU_42 on your guess [20:19]
smickles gp5st: over what time period? [20:19]
Ukto DeaDTerra: no lawyer would tell you that a bitcoin X is illegal. they woudl advise aginst it, and tell you that your asking for trouble. [20:20]
gp5st smickles: i would probably keep it up for a while. It'll hopefully still be up in a year [20:20]
Ukto if you ask a lawyer "is using bitcoins online illegal" they will advise you aginst it, and that it may be illegal, and land you in jail [20:21]
Ukto any lawyer [20:21]
smickles gp5st: well, on a 1 year time frame, i should hope you get 5%. but anything better than a 10% loss is good [20:21]
smickles imo [20:21]
gp5st smickles: :-p thanks for the encouragment:) [20:21]
Ukto yes [20:21]
Ukto there is no presidence [20:22]
Ukto DeaDTerra: if you do know him that well, you also know he's super paranoid [20:22]
Ukto so a lawyer saying "you are at risk" woudl be enough to cause this [20:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19377 @ 0.0003129 = 6.0631 BTC [+] [20:22]
Ukto doesnt have to be "you are seriously at risk" [20:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2516 @ 0.00031329 = 0.7882 BTC [+] [20:22]
knotwork if you ask a lowyer if running a web based business at all is illegal they might well advise that if you have to ask, then maybe it is, and probe as to what exactly about what you plan to do is something you think might be illegal and why [20:22]
Ukto right [20:23]
Ukto i agree 100% with that [20:23]
Ukto and unfortnately depending on the govt you get fucked by gray [20:23]
Ukto in the US [20:23]
Ukto if its gray [20:23]
Ukto they determine that its illegal, and then youg et fucked, w/o a chacne to end it [20:23]
Ukto other countries will determine it is illegal, and then demand it stopped [20:23]
Ukto some countries [20:24]
Ukto will determin illegalness [20:24]
Ukto issue a sentance [20:24]
Ukto and leave the site up, and not re-visit the legality of it *cough(piratebay)cough* [20:24]
smickles how is bitcoin itself legally gray? [20:24]
Ukto smickles: depending on your country [20:24]
Ukto :) [20:24]
Ukto :P [20:25]
smickles Ukto: oh yea, probably a no-go in iran or something [20:25]
Ukto btw DeaDTerra, mebbe you can tell me. somoene told me the pirate bay owner was 'released' from jail, and its good to go now. but others told me that he 'escaped'? wtf? [20:26]
* Ukto hasnt followed it that closely [20:26]
Ukto smickles: defenitly [20:26]
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Ukto was another guy jailed, and then released? [20:27]
Ukto was told one guy only had to do some 1month in jail, cause of the court time, etc [20:28]
Ukto and was released [20:28]
Ukto (hell, if i coudl do a piratebay, goto jail for 1 month, and then its good to go. that would be epic( [20:28]
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jurov i got into some reddit discussion: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/118tii/global_bitcoin_stock_exchange_shuts_down_for_good/ [20:35]
jurov apparently bitcoin magazine has some "internal sources" [20:35]
jurov or they had seen glbse shareholder meeting minutes [20:35]
jurov i learn new things every day [20:36]
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Doffx Ok this made me laugh [20:44]
Doffx mpex is a guy trading shares with himself. [20:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9303 @ 0.00031212 = 2.9037 BTC [-] [20:48]
Cylta ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e805fee2ec5c5fcf00e1156e189a310ca41f84a038b49e8e0f0b1e97 [20:49]
gribble You are now authenticated for user Cylta with key 35E361F6B371D52E [20:50]
Cylta ;;getrating bramz [20:54]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User bramz, rated since Fri Sep 21 05:49:16 2012. Cumulative rating 3, from 3 total ratings. Received ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 3 positive, 0 negative. Details: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=bramz [20:54]
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knotwork smickles, are you settled in after moving yet? [21:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28100 @ 0.00031155 = 8.7546 BTC [+] [21:38]
EskimoBob so, scammer usagi has left the building for good? I bet he has a new username and he is lurking here right now :) [21:41]
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Doffx Why would he need to do that? [21:41]
Doffx Not like he has glbse down, seems silly. [21:42]
pigeons maybe he's just putting in overtime at work to repay the two month advance he took to help his assets [21:44]
jcpham who took a 2 month advance [21:45]
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Eisenhower34 Has there anything happennd i wasnt aware of? Last I heard was that EskimoBob was the one who deserved that scammer tag for not keeping his word [21:49]
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pigeons yeah, basically usagi overvalued assets, made backdoor deals, and closed out the collateral fund for his CDO, but who cares now right [21:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33037 @ 0.00031152 = 10.2917 BTC [-] [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5086 @ 0.00031155 = 1.5845 BTC [+] [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20977 @ 0.00031208 = 6.5465 BTC [+] [22:04]
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kakobrekla http://i.imgur.com/Q4P0S.jpg [22:16]
kakobrekla i can see the usefulness. [22:17]
kakobrekla patrick, is that you? http://i.imgur.com/stFPN.jpg [22:20]
EskimoBob Eisenhower34: I think there was 2 or 3 threads demanding a scammer tag for usagi. Exchange went belly up and he was home free. Now he is gone. [22:21]
EskimoBob pufff.... as expected [22:21]
EskimoBob he hated me with passion :) because I understood how full of shit he is and did not keep my mouth shut about it. fkn scumbag and a liar he is [22:24]
smickles knotwork: not quite, the majority of our stuff is arranged to be delivered on the 14th [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15223 @ 0.00031208 = 4.7508 BTC [+] [22:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24335 @ 0.00031329 = 7.6239 BTC [+] [22:29]
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smickles knotwork: but i am navigating the red tape in starting up my accounting company [22:36]
smickles *may well call it a bitcoin accounting company [22:37]
WormDrink Hi [22:39]
WormDrink I want to invest some of my money in shares - kinda noob - looking for good online trading platforms [22:39]
WormDrink this might not be the best place to ask [22:40]
EskimoBob sure it is WormDrink [22:41]
rdponticelli WormDrink: This might not be the best moment to ask :) [22:41]
WormDrink yeah that too [22:41]
EskimoBob timing is bad, place is right [22:41]
WormDrink cool [22:41]
EskimoBob WormDrink: did you read about Open Transactions? [22:42]
rdponticelli Where is kakobrekla to say: read the f**** topic? [22:43]
WormDrink EskimoBob, no [22:43]
WormDrink I did not [22:43]
EskimoBob rdponticelli: jerking of to polish porn [22:43]
rdponticelli Yeah, Open Transactions is the future [22:44]
rdponticelli But it still doesn't have a lot of thing to invest in [22:45]
rdponticelli And at this point is kind of hard to setup for a noob... [22:46]
BTC-Mining there's nothing to invest in with Open Transactions yet, no? [22:46]
jcpham developer time [22:46]
jcpham invest knowledge and time in OT [22:47]
WormDrink rdponticelli, noob @ shares - not anything else really [22:47]
rdponticelli I think that knotwork has some contracts for cryptocurrencies on his server... [22:47]
WormDrink but good to know [22:47]
WormDrink looks intresting [22:47]
rdponticelli Yeah, it's really interesting [22:48]
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rdponticelli Really worth investing in it [22:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11060 @ 0.00031329 = 3.465 BTC [+] [22:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42914 @ 0.00031352 = 13.4544 BTC [+] [22:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13426 @ 0.00031355 = 4.2097 BTC [+] [22:55]
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smickles sweet, I got one step done [23:00]
smickles the domain i wanted was available [23:00]
smickles smickles.com [23:00]
BTC-Mining eh [23:00]
smickles eh? [23:01]
* jurov rushes to register smickl.es [23:01]
jurov smickles, what u plan? [23:01]
smickles I will provide accounting related professional services in exchange for bitcoin [23:02]
smickles I'll operate out of tucson, AZ as a registered llc [23:02]
BTC-Mining sounds excellent [23:02]
smickles as soon as I confirm the total fees which i'll need to pay for licensing and registration, i'll sell some btc for ust too [23:03]
chmod755 ;;title smickles.com [23:03]
gribble Hover [23:03]
smickles chmod755: what can i say, i liked tucows back in the day [23:04]
knotwork there's nothing to invest in with Open Transactions yet, no? --> http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html [23:04]
smickles chmod755: also, I need to contract a webdev sometime shortly [23:05]
BTC-Mining what are those "shares" exactly? [23:05]
knotwork typically one millionth of the total assets of the corp [23:06]
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knotwork the value is determined by the script by adding up all that corp's assets and dividing by number (typically a million) of shares [23:06]
knotwork of course for e.g. bitcoins there are no known assets to divide by 21,000,000 to determine value per bitcoin :) [23:07]
knotwork however for CDN, UKB, MBC, NKL, GMC, GRF, UNS, GZB one can indeed treat them like shares as those nations/corps do own assets [23:08]
knotwork basically add up the national reserves the nation has with which to back their currency to see how much to value their currency [23:08]
knotwork s/GZB/CZB/ [23:09]
jcpham i love it smickles [23:15]
smickles thanks jcpham :) I hope to be up and running soon [23:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72100 @ 0.00031093 = 22.4181 BTC [-] [23:20]
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Doffx smickles.com cool [23:36]
chmod755 ;;web fetch smickles.com [23:37]
gribble Error: 'smickles.com' is not a valid url. [23:37]
chmod755 ;;web fetch http://smickles.com [23:37]
gribble ' "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">



[23:37]
Doffx can I just hand over all my btc smickles since I am clearly not making wise decisions? [23:37]
chmod755 Doffx, yes [23:38]
Doffx hehe [23:38]
chmod755 Doffx, you can also give your coins to me if you want [23:41]
Doffx No thanks I was hoping to get more returned than I put in. [23:41]
Doffx Although at this point its not really worked out that way. [23:41]
chmod755 i'd invest them to buy a scammer tag so i'm officially allowed to run a ponzi [23:42]
chmod755 jk [23:42]
Doffx I didnt know that was a requirement to run one. [23:42]
rdponticelli Doffx: In bitcoinland you're doing good if you get back something at all [23:43]
Doffx I see that now. [23:43]
Doffx I did find a really good place to put my coins lately. [23:43]
rdponticelli And the scammer tag is just the prize they gave you when your ponzi has been a success [23:43]
Eisenhower34 in regards to the past 3 months... there havent been a good place to put your coins in in the last 3 months.... [23:44]
Doffx Yes there has. [23:44]
Eisenhower34 which won? pirate? obsi? hashking? [23:45]
Doffx If you kept them in your bitcoin wallet its a great placce. [23:45]
Doffx :) [23:45]
rdponticelli I'm afraid about what Doffx is about to say [23:45]
Eisenhower34 usagi? any mining bond? [23:45]
chmod755 Eisenhower34, alpaca socks [23:45]
Eisenhower34 ^^ [23:45]
Eisenhower34 always a good investment in fall :) [23:45]
chmod755 just a few weeks and it's winter in the northern hemisphere [23:46]
Doffx I have all 20 coins that didnt leave my wallet. [23:46]
chmod755 value of socks goes up [23:46]
chmod755 lol [23:46]
jcpham i'm up to like 4 bitcoins now [23:46]
Eisenhower34 guyys you are rich .... [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3546 @ 0.00031093 = 1.1026 BTC [-] [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40400 @ 0.00031066 = 12.5507 BTC [-] [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9654 @ 0.00031028 = 2.9954 BTC [-] [23:47]
jcpham gettin mad paid [23:47]
Eisenhower34 why are those even allowed to talk in here? riight we dont have ay regulations for that :P [23:47]
pigeons http://szabo.best.vwh.net/jointstock.html [23:47]
chmod755 20 coins = rich? [23:47]
jcpham super rich [23:47]
Eisenhower34 icredible mega rich! [23:47]
chmod755 YAY I'M RICH [23:47]
Eisenhower34 i sold all of those remaining coins atm [23:48]
chmod755 i have billions of satoshis [23:48]
jcpham billions? [23:48]
chmod755 wait... [23:49]
* chmod755 checks [23:49]
jcpham IMPOSSIBRU [23:49]
BTC-Mining I got hundred billions of em damn satoshis [23:49]
chmod755 fuck you Bit Gates [23:49]
BTC-Mining I'm aiming for the 10 trillion (100 000 BTC) satoshis mark [23:50]
BTC-Mining 1/210th of all bitcoins [23:51]
chmod755 BTC-Mining, you don't need 100k BTC [23:51]
BTC-Mining Blasphemy! [23:51]
chmod755 /join #OccupyBTC-Mining [23:52]
BTC-Mining Argh, virtual militia! They're squatting my interwebs! Look at their pixely signs! [23:53]
BTC-Mining There's even a few violent ones corrupting my bits! [23:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39194 @ 0.00031355 = 12.2893 BTC [+] [23:55]
jcpham http://fudr.us/ [23:57]
jcpham don't know what it is [23:57]
jcpham can't answer any question about it [23:57]
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