Forum logs for 10 Nov 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.4 = 0.8 BTC [+] [00:00]
Namworld Score on... what? [00:06]
mircea_popescu benkay dumped some libertard shit and i had to step in it [00:07]
Namworld I found what you tested on. [00:09]
Namworld With same income level, I'm more privileged with than without a job. Isn't the same income with no job MORE privileged? [00:10]
Namworld More money for less work seems like an improvement to me... [00:12]
kleeck How is this scored? [00:12]
mircea_popescu kleeck the libertard arithmetic process. [00:13]
mircea_popescu aka pulling numbers out of hat [00:13]
kleeck link to said process? [00:13]
pankkake you're not seing it like them. for example, I bet an artist who sings about forests (and earns millions) would be less privileged (as in "i like you better") than a business owner making minimum wage [00:13]
pankkake it's all about categorizing people [00:14]
Namworld A disfigured, short, transgender, pansexual, black, african, homeless, unemployed, immobile, black jew, "Taken it in the pooper or mouth" person scores... [00:15]
Namworld -960 [00:15]
Namworld http://checkprivilege.x10.mx/ [00:16]
Namworld Average 100, highest around 400 I think [00:16]
mircea_popescu merely the notion that you could have negatives in what's supposed to work as a proportionate scale... [00:17]
mircea_popescu basically these people sorely need a whipping. [00:17]
Namworld I managed to score -2130 [00:18]
mircea_popescu that sounds like a privileged score. [00:18]
pankkake how? black jew isn't the worst? [00:19]
mircea_popescu can you even be both ? [00:19]
Namworld No [00:19]
mircea_popescu don't they like, require you to renounce your skin color upon circumcision ? [00:19]
asciilifeform ethiopia? [00:19]
pankkake :D [00:19]
Namworld Muslim seems to be... I think it goes from left to right from best to worst. [00:19]
Namworld Middle east seems worst too [00:19]
pankkake weird [00:20]
mircea_popescu eskimo should be worst. [00:20]
Namworld It's not an option [00:20]
mircea_popescu yeah because they're braindead chickens describing the coop they live in. [00:20]
pankkake perhaps because leftists are often antisemites [00:20]
mircea_popescu but in the actual reality, i dunno what sucks more than being born past the artic circle. [00:20]
pankkake at least it's clean, unlike india [00:21]
mircea_popescu yeah. it's also silent. kids brains don't develop in silence. [00:21]
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asciilifeform who doesn't love the old stories about europeans getting clubbed by eskimos for refusing the offer of shared wife. [00:22]
Namworld I found a chart for it [00:22]
Namworld http://www.blameitonthevoices.com/2012/10/chart-how-privileged-are-you.html [00:22]
ozbot Chart: How privileged are you? [00:22]
Namworld Shows scoring for each option it seems... [00:22]
pankkake really, female is -50 while trangenders etc. are only -75? [00:23]
pankkake oh there's others after [00:23]
Namworld middle east, black and muslim are not appreciated apparently [00:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 250 @ 0.00108656 = 0.2716 BTC [+] [00:23]
Namworld Well, to quote mircea: "[17:13] aka pulling numbers out of hat" [00:24]
Namworld I'd like to refine that to "out of their ass" [00:24]
pankkake lol at their Europe levels too [00:25]
pankkake Spain and Poland should trade places at least [00:26]
pankkake Jewish +25 hahaha [00:26]
pankkake hahahahaha [00:26]
Namworld A short overweight straight male muslim in the middle east with no job and 1 million+ income is "-500" [00:27]
Namworld I don't think that qualifies as underprivileged... [00:28]
pankkake perhaps add that he has ~100 wives [00:28]
mircea_popescu http://postimg.org/image/ri8learfb/ [00:30]
ozbot View image: libertards [00:30]
mircea_popescu adding this to teh permanent record. [00:30]
Namworld Scientist is a negative points while no job is 0 and teacher is -5 [00:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know that's about on par with the jooz making casha out of virgin boy blood. [00:31]
Namworld Investment banker +25 [00:31]
Namworld regardless of salary [00:31]
mircea_popescu the idiocy of adding that shit together like scalars... [00:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: pretty sure the eskimos did offer 'parking space' to guests. [00:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3000 @ 0.00108656 = 3.2597 BTC [+] [00:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, but much more limitedly than the stories go. [00:32]
mircea_popescu and for that matter, so did the redskins, and so did everyone else. [00:32]
asciilifeform maybe only to favoured guests. [00:32]
mircea_popescu fuck, so do the us ppl of today. [00:32]
mircea_popescu "would you like to fuck my wife" is really a lot more common than generally known. [00:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9236 @ 0.00088996 = 8.2197 BTC [+] [00:38]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [00:57]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 373.0, Best ask: 375.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 373.0, 24 hour volume: 43926.85608808, 24 hour low: 340.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 370.75102 [00:57]
mircea_popescu row row row your boat [00:57]
mircea_popescu gently up the charts [00:57]
mircea_popescu merrily merrily merrily [00:57]
mircea_popescu fiat's but a joke. [00:57]
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mod6 haha [01:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 200 @ 0.00108656 = 0.2173 BTC [+] [01:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.702 BTC [-] [01:13]
benkay the idiocy of quantifying power [01:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00088285 = 5.6502 BTC [-] [01:14]
mircea_popescu power is quantifiable. [01:15]
mircea_popescu like cocksize. [01:15]
nubbins` read an article about an assisted suicide where one of the last things the woman did before dying was sing "row row row your boat" with her family [01:15]
nubbins` after some thought, i said "oh my" [01:15]
mircea_popescu well she had a point [01:15]
nubbins` no kidding, hey? [01:15]
nubbins` minor epiphany on the part of the reader [01:16]
nubbins` if only religion could sum things up so succinctly [01:16]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 9 @ 0.43199434 = 3.8879 BTC [+] [01:17]
benkay power is not quantifiable in a strict sense. [01:18]
benkay what is the quantified watt of power? [01:18]
benkay not speaking about ergodic, but sociopolitical [01:18]
benkay a mircea [01:18]
benkay or an obama [01:18]
nubbins` a bitcoin [01:19]
mircea_popescu benkay you missed my sarcasm. [01:19]
benkay glib, you [01:19]
nubbins` lel! [01:19]
mircea_popescu an inch of cock != another inch of cock. [01:19]
benkay no, i just don't want it taken seriously. [01:19]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 20 @ 0.43199434 = 8.6399 BTC [+] [01:19]
pankkake so, inches of cock are not fungible [01:19]
nubbins` ^ [01:20]
nubbins` not by a long shot [01:20]
benkay harem size is an acceptable proxy [01:21]
benkay steep enough power curve on that one to neatly disqualify most irrelevants. [01:22]
benkay although eunuchs [01:22]
benkay a weak proxy, then. [01:22]
asciilifeform why not 'skyscraper height'? 'megatonnage of nuke you have the codes for'? etc [01:22]
benkay i'm a fan of capital deployment ability [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6644 @ 0.00088211 = 5.8607 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [O] [O.USD.C200T] 10 @ 0.43197809 = 4.3198 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 273 @ 0.00108656 = 0.2966 BTC [+] [01:24]
nubbins` hm [01:27]
nubbins` number of arts, perhaps? [01:27]
benkay arts -> artists supported -> harem -> derp [01:27]
nubbins` you missed my sarcasm, too :( [01:28]
benkay i miss you nubs [01:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00088285 = 6.4448 BTC [+] [01:28]
pankkake number of people who would suck your cock [01:30]
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nubbins` a thousand [01:35]
nubbins` oh, wait, sorry [01:35]
pankkake I didn't say whose cock you would suck [01:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.700161 = 14.0032 BTC [-] {5} [01:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 22 @ 0.0065901 = 0.145 BTC [-] [01:36]
nubbins` no, i thought you were asking the crowd, not suggesting it as a measure [01:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [01:41]
BingoBoingo Nukes, like cocks require some sill for usage regardless of sice, though size does definitely help [01:41]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.205 = 1.025 BTC [-] [01:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.205 BTC [-] [01:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 5 @ 0.203 = 1.015 BTC [-] [01:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0065901 = 0.1845 BTC [-] [01:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0065901 = 0.1252 BTC [-] [01:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 381 @ 0.00656581 = 2.5016 BTC [-] {3} [01:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 268 @ 0.00639777 = 1.7146 BTC [-] {3} [01:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 76 @ 0.00615006 = 0.4674 BTC [-] {2} [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 147 @ 0.00615003 = 0.9041 BTC [-] {6} [01:54]
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BingoBoingo ;;goxlag [01:55]
gribble MtGox lag is 1.571973 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00315021629131 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its third largest moon, Io (0.002819 AU). [01:55]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [01:55]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.25, Best ask: 357.99, Bid-ask spread: 2.74000, Last trade: 357.99, 24 hour volume: 48907.50356715, 24 hour low: 340.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 369.40467 [01:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 648 @ 0.0061 = 3.9528 BTC [-] {3} [01:55]
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BingoBoingo .bait [02:01]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1jv8weOja1qz7ltxo1_500.jpg [02:01]
benkay .bait [02:02]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m20parNqDc1qk6jw7o1_500.jpg [02:02]
benkay ozbot i am disappoint [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2996 @ 0.00088211 = 2.6428 BTC [-] [02:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.14749 BTC [+] [02:03]
pankkake ;;ticker [02:03]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 372.2, Best ask: 372.5, Bid-ask spread: 0.30000, Last trade: 372.49999, 24 hour volume: 49865.79118746, 24 hour low: 340.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 369.39209 [02:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 151 @ 0.00108656 = 0.1641 BTC [+] [02:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4444 @ 0.00087962 = 3.909 BTC [-] [02:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.NSA] 20000 @ 0.00023262 = 4.6524 BTC [+] {6} [02:17]
mircea_popescu .boat [02:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.6901 = 3.4505 BTC [-] {3} [02:20]
benkay http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Blue_Marlin [02:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 44 @ 0.00615004 = 0.2706 BTC [+] {2} [02:22]
benkay .butt [02:25]
BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2013/they-really-are-buttcoins-nao/ [02:26]
ozbot They really are Buttcoins nao pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:26]
pankkake I love the first comment "220 usd for that" [02:27]
pankkake sadly I heard a buttcoin isn't 10 BTC anymore [02:28]
wao-ender lol [02:28]
wao-ender who made that pic? [02:28]
benkay some butt [02:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00654013 = 0.6867 BTC [+] {3} [02:32]
BingoBoingo That pic has so much jizz. Jizzy lens or a Mirror selfie? [02:34]
pankkake it's fishy [02:35]
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pankkake http://cryptome.org/2013-info/11/intel-ug-lab/intel-ug-lab.htm [02:55]
asciilifeform pankkake: decoy. the real 'intel cpu vulnerability facility' is: a fax machine at ft. meade, where intel sends them the dirt directly, for free. [02:56]
asciilifeform sits next to microshit's fax. [02:56]
mircea_popescu hey, the cardano was on that site! [02:56]
kakobrekla http://www.vancouversun.com/100K+traded+through+Vancouver+Bitcoin+week/9145774/story.html [02:56]
ozbot $100K traded through Vancouver's Bitcoin ATM in one week (with video) [02:56]
asciilifeform cryptome's a classic [02:56]
asciilifeform they throw in pretty much anything that smells of nsa dirt. [02:57]
mircea_popescu and with that im off. don't break the butts! [02:57]
pankkake omg, it did http://cryptome.org/2013/10/bitcoin-usb-gpg.htm [02:57]
asciilifeform yeah [02:57]
pankkake did that bring a lot of traffic? [02:57]
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Ademan Does anyone know what the current status of bASIC-MINING is? As best I can tell from the bitcointalk thread, the operator is totally MIA. [09:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7199999 BTC [+] [09:37]
mircea_popescu Ademan http://trilema.com/2013/whats-a-sperglord/ [09:40]
mircea_popescu but that's pretty much it, totally mia. [09:40]
Ademan I don't deny being an aspie, but did you mean creativex is an aspie or me? [09:40]
mircea_popescu tom van dyke [09:41]
mircea_popescu (the basic guy) [09:41]
mircea_popescu that's what were you asking wasn't it ? [09:41]
Ademan ah, yeah indeed [09:42]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay well i can't explain why x thing isn't y thing. why do you think it is in the first place ? [09:42]
Ademan Well, the bitcointalk thread claims he's "Eric Corlew" [09:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [09:42]
mircea_popescu Ademan ya well, who's who in the bitcoin scamspace is always an iffy proposition. [09:43]
mircea_popescu this is why people invest on mpex rather than fucking themselves over on the play-pretend "alternatives". [09:43]
Ademan mircea_popescu: can you give me a full disclosure on that statement? ;-) [09:44]
mircea_popescu i run mpex. [09:44]
Ademan was joke, attempted joke anyways [09:44]
mircea_popescu o. lol. [09:44]
mircea_popescu sorry sir, we here at internet house are proud to say no joke. [09:45]
mircea_popescu no joke at all. [09:45]
Ademan haha [09:45]
Ademan from a purely marketing standpoint, have you ever considered throwing a stylesheet on there? [09:46]
mircea_popescu yes. [09:48]
mircea_popescu in the same way a four star michelin restaurateur has from a purely marketing standpoint considered throwing a drive-in in there. [09:48]
mircea_popescu mostly to go "hahahahahaha-hahahahaha" [09:48]
Ademan lol somehow I knew that was a dangerous question to ask [09:49]
mircea_popescu no but seriously, most interaction with mpex is programatical. [09:51]
mircea_popescu the last thing people want is more cruft. [09:51]
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mircea_popescu pankkake no, actually, it's about half a dozen people, mostly engaged in an all out war with the "press" establishment of teh english speaking computing world. [09:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform: a decentralized SR would live still. etc <<< it couldn't possibly, in that it'd have been made by the guy that hired his cocaine buyers to kill his cocaine curiers. [09:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell benkay: so "authorized float" means "that as what we sold at ipo", or pre-ipo as described on cryptome << no, it means the total # of shares actually having been issued. this starts as that which was sold at ipo, increases every time someone executes a stock warrant and every time the company issues more shares. [09:56]
gribble The operation succeeded. [09:56]
mircea_popescu jurov: up to the 1e8 limit << actually mpex is on 64 bit systems, there's no 1e8 limit. iirc it's 1e42 or something [09:57]
Ademan mircea_popescu: 30 BTC is steep as hell, is there anything against pooling and/or "reselling" access? [09:57]
mircea_popescu nope. jurov runs a full service broker [09:57]
mircea_popescu with css. [09:57]
mircea_popescu other people do the same thing privately. which is how exchanges fucking work in the first place. [09:57]
mircea_popescu jurov : "(b) No Such lAbs solemnly promises and warrants never to issue more shares on any other venue" ; "nor in any way to fraudulently dilute existing shareholders at any point in the future". separate clauses. [09:59]
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Ademan lol it's practically a boilerplate tg2 site [10:01]
mircea_popescu TeleGiornale 2 ? [10:04]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [10:05]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 341.1, Best ask: 342.9311, Bid-ask spread: 1.83110, Last trade: 341.1, 24 hour volume: 71989.74982744, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 345.56628 [10:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 21 @ 0.0065402 = 0.1373 BTC [+] [10:08]
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Ademan transgender2, it's the second level [10:11]
Ademan buh uh, turbogears 2, was a neat python web application framework [10:11]
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mircea_popescu o [10:15]
mircea_popescu coinbr you mean ? [10:15]
mircea_popescu or nsa ? [10:15]
Ademan coinbr [10:16]
Ademan the NSA might be transgender, I dunno [10:16]
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mircea_popescu lol [10:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.72848571 = 5.0994 BTC [+] {2} [10:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 120 @ 0.00654525 = 0.7854 BTC [+] {2} [10:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7299 = 2.1897 BTC [+] [10:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6000 @ 0.00012 = 0.72 BTC [-] {4} [11:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7299 = 1.4598 BTC [+] [11:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1678 @ 0.00011959 = 0.2007 BTC [-] {2} [11:09]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.7299 = 2.9196 BTC [+] [11:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.732 = 4.392 BTC [+] [11:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.7324 = 2.1972 BTC [+] [11:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9550 @ 0.00087576 = 8.3635 BTC [+] {3} [11:16]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 68 @ 0.0065499 = 0.4454 BTC [+] [11:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00209889 = 0.2099 BTC [+] [11:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7324 = 1.4648 BTC [+] [11:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 405 @ 0.00108655 = 0.4401 BTC [+] {2} [11:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.7324 = 4.3944 BTC [+] [11:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.7325 = 3.6625 BTC [+] [11:59]
mircea_popescu http://superdickery.com/images/stories/dick/1027_4_030.jpg [12:04]
clamcat ;;ticker [12:12]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 340.0, Best ask: 342.97979, Bid-ask spread: 2.97979, Last trade: 342.97981, 24 hour volume: 71027.21107632, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 343.80987 [12:12]
clamcat Bitstamp down to 307 [12:12]
clamcat ;;market sell 10000 [12:13]
gribble A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 2926878.0981 USD and would take the last price down to 270.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 292.6878 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 124.7729 seconds [12:13]
clamcat ;;market sell 20000 [12:14]
gribble A market order to sell 20000 bitcoins right now would net 5452647.9474 USD and would take the last price down to 230.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 272.6324 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 155.3802 seconds [12:14]
clamcat ;;market buy 10000 [12:14]
gribble A market order to buy 10000 bitcoins right now would take 3918593.9166 USD and would take the last price up to 420.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 391.8594 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 174.9046 seconds [12:14]
clamcat ;;market buy 20000 [12:14]
gribble A market order to buy 20000 bitcoins right now would take 16066080.2504 USD and would take the last price up to 3452.7072 USD, resulting in an average price of 803.3040 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 184.1464 seconds [12:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00087738 = 3.9482 BTC [+] {2} [12:18]
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jurov [08:01:18] lol it's practically a boilerplate tg2 site << so nice to meet fellow coder :DDD [12:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.73249 = 1.465 BTC [-] [12:30]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 336.99003, Best ask: 337.99997, Bid-ask spread: 1.00994, Last trade: 336.99002, 24 hour volume: 71064.95691229, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 343.56136 [12:31]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ [12:36]
ozbot Bitcoin Charts / Markets [12:36]
mircea_popescu seems that data is stale. it's 326 24 hour vwap [12:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2107 @ 0.00087832 = 1.8506 BTC [+] {2} [12:41]
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jurov mircea_popescu iirc benkays' original question was "aint it stock dilution?" [12:50]
jurov i'd like to see some hard limit on that in the contract(even if 1e8 shares), too [12:51]
jurov ;;bc,stats [12:55]
gribble Current Blocks: 268812 | Current Difficulty: 5.109297380161518E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 270143 | Next Difficulty In: 1331 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 15 hours, 25 minutes, and 42 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 525565264.161 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.86449 [12:55]
mircea_popescu why ? [13:01]
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mircea_popescu if at time t the stock is worth more than what it's trading for, people should buy it. if they can't buy it, it's not worth more. [13:02]
mircea_popescu if it's not worth more, issuing more at that price is not dilution. [13:02]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrZgHBXBKJ0&t=9m45s [13:05]
jurov i personally don't have big issue with it, we'll see how it will work out. It's much much better that S.DICE was, with evoorhees throwing stuff in randomly without any announce/approval needed [13:09]
mircea_popescu um. [13:09]
mircea_popescu s.dice never issued more stock. [13:09]
jurov yes, but there were huge pools of shares not on the market and arriving all at once, which s.nsa is so far avoiding [13:12]
jurov and the contract even makes some stipulations about the price [13:14]
mircea_popescu that's really the empire of the holder. if asciilifeform decides to convert his warrants in a bulk and dump them on the market for instance it'd be similar a result [13:14]
mircea_popescu afair the major problem with s.dice was that at some point erik arbitrarily decided to reclassify an asset class in his accounting, [13:15]
mircea_popescu but that only lasted about two days and he backed off. [13:15]
mircea_popescu so it's only "major" in a theoretical sense, otherwise innocent mistake and all. [13:15]
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jurov seems i should reread the mpex stuff n+1 times :) [13:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.143 BTC [-] [13:17]
jurov and include even the listing agreement commentary in my upcoming "missing mpex manual" [13:18]
mircea_popescu actually someone writing mpex contract commentary and adding together mpex caselaw would provide an infinitely valuable service [13:19]
mircea_popescu certainly more than all bitcoin foundation ever did in its ignominous history to date. [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8950 @ 0.00088227 = 7.8963 BTC [+] {2} [13:28]
mircea_popescu which incidentally inspired a new mpex caption. [13:31]
mircea_popescu "Welcome to MPEx Providing nucleation in the superheated fluid of Bitcoin. Since 2011." [13:31]
mircea_popescu bitcoincharts has been hacked. [13:46]
mircea_popescu options quoting disabled on mpex. [13:46]
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kakobrekla >On some level I feel your pain. I've long wanted to start a bitcoin-settled version of Intrade (no, bitbets/betsofbitcoin/etc are not even close to being the same thing) and an exchange-cleared market for hashrate futures. But as a US citizen and resident it's illegal for me to do these things for at least a dozen different reasons. [13:56]
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mircea_popescu "chief among them, that i'm a fucktard who shouldn't be even close to doing anything of the sort, as i've clearly proven by the thick cluelessness of the foregoing." [14:00]
kakobrekla you know who i quoted [14:03]
kakobrekla ? [14:03]
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mircea_popescu i have no idea. who did you quote ? [14:05]
kakobrekla eldentyrell [14:06]
mircea_popescu works. [14:06]
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zist ;;ticker [14:14]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 338.5, Best ask: 341.9, Bid-ask spread: 3.40000, Last trade: 341.9, 24 hour volume: 72059.99145526, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 341.92907 [14:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.732499 = 2.1975 BTC [+] [14:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7346 @ 0.00088473 = 6.4992 BTC [+] {2} [14:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 9 @ 0.04998279 = 0.4498 BTC [+] [14:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00654999 = 0.131 BTC [+] [14:30]
firedrops lol, idiot in -hidden just sent 2BTC to tor hidden service 'bitcoin laundry'.. [14:41]
firedrops asking when he's going to rec'd his clean coins.... :) [14:41]
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kakobrekla tell him for next time, ill clean his coins for 50% only, instead of 100% that he is paying now [14:44]
Apocalyptic I liked BigBitz's answer [14:51]
BigBitz what answer is that ? [14:51]
BigBitz Oh that 2BTC guy... Oh man... that's like $700. Brutal. [14:51]
Apocalyptic are you mental ? // one must really be to do something like this.. [14:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4243 @ 0.00088185 = 3.7417 BTC [-] [14:53]
BigBitz poor guy :( [14:53]
mircea_popescu 2 btc well spent. [14:55]
BigBitz NOT. [14:56]
firedrops nobody can take his experience away from him, and it was entertaining, so +1 for well spent. [14:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.732499 BTC [+] [15:01]
mircea_popescu ^ [15:01]
mircea_popescu some people spend some bitcents and read all of trilema. some people buy some coffeee and read the log of this chan [15:01]
mircea_popescu some people invest 950 btc in coinlenders and afterwards compliment me on how "prophetic" my gpg contract was. [15:02]
mircea_popescu it's a free world, everyone gets to the same spot on a path of his own choice. [15:02]
BigBitz Investing in TradeFortress. lololololol. [15:04]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/lvm-lsa-i1ownership-1/ < if anyone cares, i'm doing an adnotation of mises' socialism. [15:10]
ozbot LvM L&Sa - I.1.Ownership (1) pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:10]
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zist "Paul: He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing" [15:15]
mircea_popescu yup [15:15]
zist extra points if you know where that comes from [15:16]
mircea_popescu it's much older than herbert. [15:17]
mircea_popescu it comes, like everything, from the greeks. [15:18]
zist yes, but taht [15:19]
zist that's luch less fun [15:19]
zist arty pooper :) [15:19]
zist party* [15:20]
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mircea_popescu lol [15:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.7325 BTC [+] [15:23]
pankkake artsy pooper [15:25]
zist pankkake: please feel free to correct my bad typing too. Tiring of typing twice and adding * [15:27]
pankkake I realize I make a lot of typos too on IRC [15:28]
pankkake I shouldn't be so lazy [15:28]
pankkake or have a client with spellchecking [15:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3210 @ 0.00087857 = 2.8202 BTC [-] [15:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.732499 = 1.465 BTC [-] [15:29]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.732499 = 2.93 BTC [-] [15:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 400 @ 0.00663577 = 2.6543 BTC [+] {8} [15:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.70000011 = 2.8 BTC [-] {3} [15:41]
kleinessteak can someone explain what the {x} means at the end of the assbot msg? [15:42]
kakobrekla lotto numbers [15:42]
kleinessteak thnx [15:43]
kleinessteak :D [15:43]
kakobrekla yw! [15:43]
kleinessteak and why is there no msg anymore for trades on bitfunder? [15:44]
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kakobrekla srsly, trades are aggregated over 1 min, when you see {x} it tells you how many trades were merged [15:45]
kakobrekla buttfunder was never here on #bitcoin-assets [15:45]
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kleinessteak i see, thank you [15:46]
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kakobrekla and if you get anything on the lotto draw, 10% cut seems fari for assbot. [15:47]
kakobrekla fair* [15:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1781 @ 0.00108655 = 1.9351 BTC [+] {2} [16:24]
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benkay mircea_popescu: doesn't dilution mean "i had x% of stock base but now after issuance i have >x%"? [16:44]
benkay x including warrants [16:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00646151 = 1.2923 BTC [-] {5} [16:50]
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thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [16:53]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 2 days, 20 hours, 43 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: $avg [16:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00087987 = 5.6312 BTC [+] [17:08]
benkay ping mircea_popescu [17:09]
benkay unrelated http://fiatleak.com/ [17:10]
mircea_popescu benkay no, dilution means my shares entitled me to x equity now they entitle me to less than x. [17:20]
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mircea_popescu buttfunder was never here on #bitcoin-assets << i gotta hand it to you... the old "well if you delay enough the problem may go away" [17:21]
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kakobrekla :) [17:22]
pankkake I have been very successful at this :/ [17:22]
benkay so when there are new shares how does the amount of equity i'm entitled to not decrease? [17:23]
benkay mircea_popescu: [17:23]
mircea_popescu because new shares are sold for at least as much as your current shares are worth [17:25]
mircea_popescu which means equity increases at least at the same rate as the float. [17:25]
benkay and that btc hits the book as an asset [17:25]
benkay roger [17:25]
benkay god i'm phenomenally dumb [17:26]
mircea_popescu well, the idea that dilution = more shares is somehow very intuitively easy. [17:26]
mircea_popescu it's not correct, but in order for this point to become important some progress has to be made. [17:26]
mircea_popescu as far as forum investing is concerned... that first approximation is great really. [17:26]
benkay it's a product of the SV "investment" model [17:27]
mircea_popescu sv ? [17:28]
benkay new shares are issued, new cash hits books, value of existing shares remains stable, but then burn that cash on kegs and giant bags of refined hfcs [17:28]
benkay silicon valley [17:28]
thestringpuller bitfunder imploded? [17:29]
mircea_popescu oh. [17:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6333 @ 0.00087902 = 5.5668 BTC [-] {2} [17:29]
pankkake something new? [17:29]
mircea_popescu benkay well obviously equity is capital at risk. bad things can happen. ideally the bad things happen as a result of legitimate business ventures rather than beerkegging obviously. [17:30]
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benkay anyways. questions about issuance resolved. tyvm. [17:31]
mircea_popescu np [17:31]
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zist ;;ticker [17:36]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 307.0, Best ask: 309.99498, Bid-ask spread: 2.99498, Last trade: 307.0, 24 hour volume: 75027.40204515, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 337.535 [17:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00087812 = 8.0787 BTC [-] [17:48]
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jo_ ? [17:50]
jo_ .pr [17:50]
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jo_ !help [17:51]
assbot List of commands: [17:51]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} [17:51]
assbot !last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} [17:51]
assbot !mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) [17:51]
assbot !rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} [17:51]
assbot !exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} [17:51]
assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from https://just-dice.com) [17:51]
assbot !bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} [17:51]
assbot !quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} [17:51]
jo_ !s.nsa [17:51]
jo_ !mp [17:51]
assbot Please use http://dpaste.com/ [17:51]
mircea_popescu jo_ whatcher tryin;' to do ? [17:51]
kakobrekla hax ur computah [17:52]
mircea_popescu o that. [17:52]
jo_ !last s.nsa [17:52]
assbot The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow. [17:52]
jo_ !last mpex s.nsa [17:52]
assbot Last trade for S.NSA on MPEX was at 0.000235 BTC [+] [17:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [17:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0008771 = 9.4727 BTC [-] [18:04]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.73449999 BTC [+] [18:04]
zist ;;ticker [18:07]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 306.2, Best ask: 308.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 306.2, 24 hour volume: 76962.27551906, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 335.05303 [18:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60000 @ 0.00087253 = 52.3518 BTC [-] {4} [18:11]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-] [18:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00667591 = 0.701 BTC [+] {4} [18:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 1691 @ 0.0066976 = 11.3256 BTC [+] {5} [18:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.0067 = 0.3953 BTC [+] [18:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.72 = 1.44 BTC [-] [18:19]
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zist ;;ticker [18:20]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 306.0, Best ask: 306.25001, Bid-ask spread: 0.25001, Last trade: 306.0, 24 hour volume: 78320.52789357, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 395.0, 24 hour vwap: 334.59426 [18:20]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu: no further takers on the bounty from http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ i guess [18:22]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` i guess not. the advantage of bitcoin however... [18:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.72 = 5.76 BTC [-] [18:24]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1387468/Black-couple-Francis-Arlette-Tshibangu-white-baby-blond-hair.html [18:24]
mircea_popescu white powa! [18:24]
ozbot Black couple Francis and Arlette Tshibangu have white baby with blond hair | Mail Online [18:24]
mjoiii_ L [18:25]
nubbins` more like daily fail dot co dot uk! [18:25]
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pankkake why is that news? I thought it was a common occurence [18:26]
nubbins` anyway, the bounty grows in value with each passing day -- you don't see that with fiat [18:26]
pankkake it's not white, it's black with white skin [18:26]
mircea_popescu well they gotta come up with something every day [18:26]
mircea_popescu "When I bent down and kissed him I got a better look at his features and could see he looked just like me and Arlette. He has my nose and my wife’s lips." [18:27]
mircea_popescu that's so crazy. they both have exactly the same noses and lips, those two people. [18:27]
pankkake don't all blacks look alike? [18:28]
nubbins` http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/US_Army_How_To_Spot_A_Jap.png [18:28]
pankkake there's a game, but I can't find it, where you have to say if the person is korean, japanese, or chinese [18:29]
nubbins` lel, "or try 'LALAPALOOZA' on them! that's a panic!" [18:30]
nubbins` pankkake: koreans and japanese are more similar in features as well as in the way their language sounds [18:30]
pankkake yeah. but now thanks to starcraft I can distinguish them [18:31]
nubbins` heh [18:31]
nubbins` there was a starcraft tv station when i lived in sk :( [18:31]
pankkake oh you lived there? nice [18:31]
pankkake a country that values video games players more than football players can't be that bad! [18:32]
asciilifeform the old 'shibboleth' method... [18:33]
nubbins` as a Foreigner (with a capital F), it was both good and bad [18:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.71 BTC [-] [18:33]
nubbins` overall i appreciated the experience, wouldn't do it again [18:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.7345 = 1.469 BTC [+] [18:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.0069501 = 0.1321 BTC [+] [19:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 996 @ 0.002098 = 2.0896 BTC [-] [20:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 46 @ 0.00645435 = 0.2969 BTC [-] {2} [20:35]
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mircea_popescu http://www.doublerobotics.com/ [20:49]
ozbot Double Robotics - Telepresence Robot for Telecommuters [20:49]
mircea_popescu this is made for mothers-in-law isn't it. [20:49]
pankkake that has to be the most impolite thing ever [20:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.002006 = 0.1083 BTC [-] [20:50]
mircea_popescu new technology usually is. [20:51]
zist MP: are you planning on stalking your inlaws with it ?? [20:55]
mircea_popescu i suppose it's all lost by now, but at a time in human history before computers, [20:59]
mircea_popescu the one joke in most ample common use was the evil of the mother in law [20:59]
mircea_popescu and how she visits uninvited and inserts herself in the ribcage of her son in law and so on [20:59]
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asciilifeform there was an earlier vendor that made these. intended for factory floor overseers. those had aim-able laser pointers. [21:04]
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zist mircea_popescu: ::) [21:05]
zist :) [21:05]
mircea_popescu i wonder what happened to the earlier vendor. [21:05]
asciilifeform it was a paulgrahamoid [21:05]
asciilifeform those tend to die mysterious deaths [21:05]
asciilifeform or possibly they just rebranded and this is still it. [21:06]
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mircea_popescu seems likely. i was thinking "well maybe they rebranded it and took more investment" [21:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 164 @ 0.00108599 = 0.1781 BTC [+] [21:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 0.04802759 = 0.1441 BTC [-] {3} [21:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 585 @ 0.0019894 = 1.1638 BTC [-] {5} [21:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4495 @ 0.00087076 = 3.9141 BTC [+] {2} [22:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 130 @ 0.00108599 = 0.1412 BTC [+] [22:23]
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kakobrekla anyone used all4btc.com before? [22:28]
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mircea_popescu nope [22:29]
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lyspooner when were all those puts purchased on mpex [22:33]
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mircea_popescu some were bought some were sold [22:35]
mircea_popescu a few days ago [22:35]
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lyspooner are you making prices still? looks n/a to me [22:36]
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mircea_popescu the bitcoincharts site died. [22:36]
lyspooner aw crap [22:36]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-11-2013#375395 [22:36]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 157 @ 0.00108599 = 0.1705 BTC [+] [22:49]
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clamcat ;;ticker [23:43]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 332.43999, Best ask: 332.49, Bid-ask spread: 0.05001, Last trade: 332.5, 24 hour volume: 78706.08840971, 24 hour low: 290.0, 24 hour high: 383.0, 24 hour vwap: 328.91239 [23:43]
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