Forum logs for 10 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov in mircealand, 5k is large. Not 200 :D [00:01]
BTC-Mining Right, I forgot about that [00:03]
BTC-Mining You're almost right on for 5k vs 200 too [00:04]
BTC-Mining I'm assuming 5k being among the large deposit based on certain large orders. [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16639 @ 0.00050449 = 8.3942 BTC [+] [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14661 @ 0.00050575 = 7.4148 BTC [+] [00:04]
mircea_popescu all deposits done [00:05]
mircea_popescu you know, i've been processing for everyone if pinged, no relation to size. [00:05]
jurov ofc. just wanted to joke about the "large" adjective [00:06]
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BTC-Mining Thank you for processing so fast [00:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15802 @ 0.00050575 = 7.9919 BTC [+] [00:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13908 @ 0.0005063 = 7.0416 BTC [+] [00:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26959 @ 0.00049903 = 13.4533 BTC [-] [00:55]
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mircea_popescu lol what! [00:58]
midnightmagic nothing! [00:59]
midnightmagic :) [00:59]
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mircea_popescu lol [01:01]
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kakobrekla hm, pathetic ban msg [01:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7654 @ 0.0004988 = 3.8178 BTC [-] [01:20]
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mircea_popescu ahahaha katz is getting better and better [01:37]
mircea_popescu but anyway, Diablo-D3 this maybe interests you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1327078#msg1327078 [01:41]
mircea_popescu (last quote) [01:41]
rdponticelli_ Are you still arguing? [01:43]
kakobrekla the only one arguing now is pretteymuch katz [01:43]
kakobrekla the rest just want to slap some reality into him or smth [01:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.0004988 = 4.6139 BTC [-] [01:45]
mircea_popescu rdponticelli_ the great advantage of hiring women to do your dirty work [01:46]
mircea_popescu i watched disgrace in the meanwhile. [01:46]
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rdponticelli Everybody is just wasting time [01:52]
mircea_popescu as oposed to what ? [01:53]
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rdponticelli Just agree that you'll ever disagree [01:56]
mircea_popescu who ? [01:57]
mircea_popescu dawg, what do i care what joel k. nobody does or doesn't do ? does he own something ? is he somebody ? why'd i give a fuck exactly ? [01:57]
mircea_popescu he and the girl can argue till one drops dead as far as i'm concerned [01:58]
mircea_popescu what the forum is for in the end, innit ? [01:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6606 @ 0.00050097 = 3.3094 BTC [+] [02:12]
* smickles wonders if that was mircea_popescu encouraging the death of his employee [02:15]
mircea_popescu lol [02:15]
mircea_popescu im in an obamacare-free state [02:15]
mircea_popescu so i can indulge, yet. [02:15]
smickles :D [02:15]
mircea_popescu anyway. night all! [02:19]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [09:11]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi [09:11]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Nov 8 15:00:35 2012 [09:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7300 @ 0.00049744 = 3.6313 BTC [-] [09:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33500 @ 0.00049744 = 16.6642 BTC [+] [10:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00049564 = 13.0106 BTC [-] [10:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00049525 = 4.8782 BTC [-] [10:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22866 @ 0.00049525 = 11.3244 BTC [-] [11:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12834 @ 0.00049522 = 6.3557 BTC [-] [11:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00049591 = 2.5291 BTC [+] [11:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00049634 = 18.6624 BTC [+] [11:38]
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mircea_popescu The charity Childline says a girl born in South Africa is more likely to be raped in her lifetime than learn to read. [11:50]
EskimoBob Guardian had a good article about charities. Their main goal is not to fix the problems but to spread panic so they can get more and more money. And this was not about some small 1 day projects. [11:56]
EskimoBob this money is wasted on all sorts of bs and make the fuckers rich who run the charity. "What about children..." scams work every time [11:57]
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EskimoBob I bet, you old pervert mircea_popescu were, searching for negro rape porn but ran in to a SA charity article ... lol [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5696 @ 0.00049522 = 2.8208 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00049513 = 8.8876 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2254 @ 0.00049492 = 1.1155 BTC [-] [12:04]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob the chartiy thing is pretty well known [12:06]
mircea_popescu they don't exist to do their stated job, they exist to pay the salaries of those involved. [12:06]
mircea_popescu much like... you know, government. [12:07]
EskimoBob I can not find this article but it was also talking about how kids are now days scared of grownups and how things are gone so bad that people do not even help kids on the street because they can be later charged for who knows what. "protect children" charities have huge role on this [12:08]
mircea_popescu i remember reading something like that. [12:08]
EskimoBob actually the comment for this article where really informative. Some of the stories, damn [12:09]
mircea_popescu i know a couple of different people who left the uk after the 2003 law requiring men "obtain positive agreement at all stages of intercourse" or some such bs [12:09]
mircea_popescu and these are people worth well in the 10s of millions. [12:09]
mircea_popescu it's all one huge orb of stupidity around sex. [12:09]
mircea_popescu in 2012, STILL the boogaboo. [12:10]
EskimoBob there was this one guy telling teh story how a he was on the playground with his kid and someone else kid gut stuck and nobody helped her because of possible sexual assault charges for "touching her"... I mean WTF! All the dad where standing around and did NOTHING. All scared shitless [12:13]
EskimoBob so they had to get women as witnesses to even help that kid [12:14]
EskimoBob wtf! And this is UK, USA etc [12:14]
mircea_popescu not etc. [12:15]
EskimoBob I have kids and reading this shit was brr.... really strange [12:15]
mircea_popescu just the us and it's 51st state [12:15]
mircea_popescu i don't have kids, but i do find it ridiculous. [12:15]
mircea_popescu it's all this self feeding stupidity, kids these days believe about 1/3 of the general population is gay, cause that's what they get shown on tv and is implied in school [12:16]
mircea_popescu male gays are still the 3% they always were. lesbians still the half percent. [12:16]
mircea_popescu i doubt people actually sexually interested in children are one in ten thousand, but the general consensus seems to be "over 100%" [12:17]
mircea_popescu but anyway, off to some meetings. later. [12:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00049634 = 0.3474 BTC [+] [12:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00049708 = 4.9708 BTC [+] [12:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28256 @ 0.00049708 = 14.0455 BTC [+] [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4644 @ 0.00049692 = 2.3077 BTC [-] [13:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32450 @ 0.000497 = 16.1277 BTC [+] [13:48]
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mircea_popescu sooo... what's new ? [21:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19690 @ 0.00049614 = 9.769 BTC [+] [22:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3205 @ 0.00049446 = 1.5847 BTC [-] [22:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33234 @ 0.00049392 = 16.4149 BTC [-] [22:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10361 @ 0.00049387 = 5.117 BTC [-] [22:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2821 @ 0.00049807 = 1.4051 BTC [+] [23:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19679 @ 0.00049919 = 9.8236 BTC [+] [23:03]
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jurov yup, earned 5 BTC for drawing :) [23:13]
dub link? [23:17]
jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122881.20 [23:17]
mircea_popescu haha wd. [23:18]
mircea_popescu some people just have all the winning. [23:18]
jurov guess having kakobrekla as contestant added some inspiration :P [23:19]
kakobrekla hm? [23:19]
jurov ;;gettrust kakobrekla [23:21]
gribble Trust relationship from user jurov to user kakobrekla: Level 1: -1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=jurov&dest=kakobrekla [23:21]
jurov not -10 anymore? good :) [23:21]
mircea_popescu lol you two. [23:21]
kakobrekla oh no afaik its still there. [23:21]
jurov ;;unrate kakobrekla [23:22]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for kakobrekla. [23:22]
jurov not worth the fuss. fuck the fsa. [23:22]
kakobrekla ;;unrate jurov [23:23]
gribble Successfully removed your rating for jurov. [23:23]
kakobrekla smart man. [23:23]
mircea_popescu in other news, augusto croppo wants to know what mpoe-pr's credentials are. [23:24]
mircea_popescu i guess he doesn't see signatures or something. [23:24]
smickles augusto c may not accept text on a screen as credentials [23:25]
kakobrekla ctrl+p [23:25]
mircea_popescu o i see [23:25]
mircea_popescu lol [23:25]
jurov yesterday we just burned 2 hours together with smickles to get me loan... ended it all up by scanned doc with shopped signatures [23:25]
mircea_popescu what ?! [23:26]
jurov cause lender does not know anything bout gpg [23:26]
mircea_popescu hahaha WHAT ? [23:26]
smickles yeah, it was awesome, in a way [23:26]
mircea_popescu fill me n [23:26]
mircea_popescu in* [23:26]
smickles well, a contract was written up. I expected it to be double signed with pgp sigs, but they ended up printing it and using physical sigs [23:27]
mircea_popescu lol [23:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00049387 = 1.8767 BTC [-] [23:28]
mircea_popescu what interest if it's notsecret ? [23:28]
mircea_popescu also, somewhat unrelatedly, proposed scammer tag : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134777535061.jpg [23:28]
smickles you'd have to ask jurov, i'm the third party in that thing [23:28]
jurov it's public, lemme dig the thread... [23:29]
jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=122156.msg1327143#msg1327143 [23:29]
mircea_popescu .3% day ? 2.x a week ? [23:30]
mircea_popescu SCAM OMG [23:30]
mircea_popescu everyone knows this is invested in pirate. [23:30]
jurov well, apparently this is around market standard lending rate nao. [23:31]
mircea_popescu Topic: §§§ Bitcoin Lending Thread - Currently 0 BTC available @ 9% per month (Read 190 times) [23:31]
smickles I should start a market competitor for these loans, i could just cash-advance on a credit card, charge a little bit on top and slaughter these rates [23:31]
mircea_popescu right. this is funny cause the mpbor is 9% [23:31]
mircea_popescu i guess the market is alligning. [23:31]
mircea_popescu i really wouldn't be doing that smickles. [23:32]
smickles yeah, i'm not going to [23:32]
smickles but the potential is there [23:32]
mircea_popescu not really. the cost of underwriting these loans far exceeds any benefit. [23:32]
mircea_popescu you won't find a credit officer working for less than 100s of BTC PER LOAN. [23:33]
smickles and from the lendee's perspective, if i really needed a btc loan, at these rates, a cash advance on a cc to buy btc is one of at least 5 things i would look into b/f a direct btc loan [23:34]
mircea_popescu right,. [23:34]
mircea_popescu loans will exist as a market after behemoths a la s.dice/s.mpoe etc are fully floated and held by 1000s of people. [23:34]
mircea_popescu then things like buyouts etc will make sense financially, both as size and as risk. [23:35]
jurov i'm maxed out my bank+creditcard already.. and it does not accept s.mpoe as collateral [23:35]
smickles jurov: I hope you know that I meant no personal slight there :) [23:35]
jurov wat? i did not notice any :) [23:36]
jurov i considered non-bank loan but these whores ask more than 9% a month anyway [23:37]
jurov o mircea, you actually know some credit officer working for more than 100s of BTC PER LOAN? [23:40]
jurov not that i want more nao, but someday later [23:41]
mircea_popescu you don't take my meaning. [23:42]
mircea_popescu the credit officer is the person working for the lender that says yes or no to an application. [23:42]
mircea_popescu if they consider 100 applications in one month you owe them say 50`000 btc. [23:42]
EskimoBob borrowing btc at those rates is flat out stupid. [23:43]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob for sure it only makes sense if you're doing btc stuff. [23:43]
mircea_popescu (ie, you are using the loan denomination to eat your btc-collapse risks) [23:43]
EskimoBob actually borrowing anything at rates like that is absurd, unless this "stuff" has a massive inflation [23:43]
smickles jeebus, my market maker bot is at 92k in size, and I'm not even done [23:44]
jurov you mean LOC or BTC? [23:46]
smickles LOC? [23:46]
jurov lines of code [23:46]
smickles 92k file size [23:46]
smickles i would've said it in LOC, but it's across multiple files, so it'd not be worth it to add them up [23:47]
smickles @.@ so many TODOs [23:48]
jurov well, my quasi-scalper has 40k, and it uses coinbr lib elsewhere. and was not even profitable [23:49]
jurov just very useful to test and find mpex bugs :P [23:49]
smickles clearly, you had too few k. that's why it wasn't profitable ;P [23:50]
mircea_popescu and was not even profitable << heh [23:51]
mircea_popescu didn't you get a multi-trillion options position at some point in a db desync ? [23:52]
jurov hehe... s.mpoe was hard to scalp, too tight spread.. and options were possible.. if you waited days [23:52]
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jurov mircea_popescu, sadly the attempt to slip withdrawal past you failed :/ [23:52]
mircea_popescu lol [23:52]
mircea_popescu duh, trade db was liek "orly?!" [23:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2919 @ 0.0004934 = 1.4402 BTC [-] [23:53]
mircea_popescu BAN HIM!!! BAN HIM WITH FIRE!!! [23:53]
mircea_popescu and i was like... [23:53]
mircea_popescu no, he's a good man [23:54]
jurov lmao [23:54]
mircea_popescu but hey, it did the same thing to smickles at some point [23:54]
mircea_popescu i think 2-3 months in a row was like [23:54]
smickles I'm consistantly baffled at the fact that things which seem so simple from a human perspective, are actually fucking complicated [23:54]
mircea_popescu "smickles you say ?! MOAR LIEK SCAMKES!!! BAN HJIM!!!!" [23:54]
smickles heh [23:54]
* smickles is now known as SCAMKES [23:55]
SCAMKES :o [23:55]
SCAMKES this nick is thrilling [23:56]
* SCAMKES is now known as smickles [23:56]
* smickles couldn't handle it [23:56]
mircea_popescu lol [23:57]
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