Forum logs for 10 Feb 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
pankkake left is a giraffe with no boobs, right is a trunk with no boobs [00:00]
davout does it claims it represents the average *20* woman ? [00:00]
davout or just the average woman? [00:00]
davout s/claims/claim/ [00:00]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell Jere_Jones now is the time when you go "o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me" [00:00]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:00]
pankkake and missing the sexiest body part, the navel [00:00]
KRS-One eww [00:00]
davout i just learned a new english word, yay! [00:01]
mircea_popescu davout which ? [00:02]
davout navel [00:02]
pankkake navel, or belly button [00:02]
mircea_popescu aha. [00:02]
davout it made me wtf, my brain had this mental image : https://www.google.fr/search?q=navet&client=firefox-a&hs=l6d&rls=org.mozilla:fr:official&channel=fflb&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=8_r3UqjJK46O7QaMtYGYBg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1262&bih=1255 [00:02]
mircea_popescu navet lol [00:02]
mircea_popescu davout i guess you're right, a large part of the problem was semantical anyway [00:03]
mod6 aw sweet: http://atc.blockr.io/ [00:03]
davout indeed, as hitler once said: "most problems are semitic" [00:04]
Jere_Jones o hello assets, you were right, i was wrong, thank you for advising me even if i was too clueless to understand you know much better than me [00:05]
Duffer1 it's ok bro [00:06]
Duffer1 lets hug it out [00:06]
* mod6 slow-claps [00:06]
Jere_Jones I resisted the advice, but in the end, I did follow it. [00:06]
mircea_popescu smart guy. [00:08]
* mircea_popescu hugs jesse james [00:08]
mircea_popescu post averted, i was just about to publish a rant about how they jus' don [00:08]
mircea_popescu 't listen. [00:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 14 @ 0.12246425 = 1.7145 BTC [+] {10} [00:09]
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mircea_popescu but tbh much happier this way. [00:09]
mircea_popescu less work. [00:09]
Jere_Jones I'm glad that I could save you some work. [00:09]
mircea_popescu lol [00:09]
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moiety so you don't want me to give Valeria Lukyanova a call then mircea_popescu? [00:11]
mircea_popescu moiety whossat and why not ? [00:14]
mircea_popescu o the tiraspol chick [00:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] [00:15]
mircea_popescu it's not such a rare body type for white eastern girls. pretty much the true caucasian type. [00:15]
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moiety yep, she talks to aliens you know [00:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.07325 = 0.1465 BTC [-] [00:17]
moiety it's not rare when you remove a rib or two, no. Aside from that, it's her makeup that looks really out of place [00:18]
mircea_popescu she actually missing ribs ? [00:18]
moiety yeah shehad a couple removed she said once [00:18]
moiety refuses to give actual age [00:18]
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mircea_popescu she can't be over 30 can she ? [00:19]
KRS-One if you are a man and have some ribs removed you can give yourself oral..so the story goes. [00:19]
KRS-One .bait [00:20]
* KRS-One tweaks the dials on ozbot. [00:20]
* KRS-One pushes the reset button on ozbot. [00:20]
ozbot http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m163jrABOs1qdhl8uo1_1280.jpg [00:21]
mircea_popescu see ? you gotta rub the clit a little. [00:21]
mircea_popescu nipples don't do anything. [00:21]
KRS-One I'll try that next time..thought ozbot was a dude. [00:21]
KRS-One That girls ass on teh Saving Abel album revs my motor [00:21]
KRS-One http://cdn.idolator.com/assets/resources/2008/03/61uA7e%2BS4UL._SS500_.jpg [00:21]
moiety KRS-One: that rumour comes from Prince, it's what he apparently had done [00:24]
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moiety mircea_popescu: nah, can't be over 30. I'm thinking she is protecting future guesses down the line [00:24]
mircea_popescu haha [00:24]
mircea_popescu maybe she's just a traditionally brought up girl that doesn't suck it, doesn't swallow and doesn't share her age [00:25]
mircea_popescu she just does weird makeup, has boobjobs and ribs removed that's all [00:25]
moiety of course she doesn't, she's been too busy locked in her room piling on the makeup or in a hospital ward! [00:25]
mircea_popescu u jelly ? [00:25]
moiety there is a creepy man version ken .. whats minus bait?! http://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Justin_Jedlica_Human_Ken_doll.jpg [00:25]
mircea_popescu whoa. [00:26]
mircea_popescu moiety if you know how to code you can prolly make an irc bot to do men pics [00:26]
mircea_popescu maybe command could be ..beat [00:26]
Duffer1 .bloke [00:27]
moiety my coding would probably return pics of caravans or something [00:27]
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moiety lol .bloke is good [00:28]
mircea_popescu irc bots are not that hard, you just get a supybot to run and then learn to tweak it [00:28]
mircea_popescu if you're not doing anything else, learning to turn a new trick can only improve your street value. [00:29]
moiety i had started a discussion point bot, to give people things to talk about so i didn't have to drag them through daily conversation so much [00:29]
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mircea_popescu you know what a markov chain is ? [00:29]
moiety no...? [00:30]
mircea_popescu hm. anyone have a link handy to that number guesser asciilifeform made ? [00:30]
mircea_popescu aha. [00:31]
mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html moiety try that, see if you can get above 70% or so [00:31]
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moiety kk if you don't hear back from me, i jumped out the window at a 1% score [00:32]
mircea_popescu don't do anything drastic like hurting yourself over failure [00:32]
ozbot Man vs. Machine. [00:32]
mircea_popescu if you must have the negative reinforcement just do humiliation, [00:32]
mircea_popescu post pics with stuff inserted or w/e. [00:32]
mircea_popescu much healtheir on the long run [00:32]
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moiety ha that is a neat little page [00:35]
mircea_popescu the "brain" involved is an application of markov chains. [00:35]
mircea_popescu they're famous for allowing computers to fool humans. [00:35]
moiety fuck is that where captchas came from? [00:36]
mircea_popescu nah [00:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2 @ 0.073 = 0.146 BTC [-] {2} [00:36]
mircea_popescu captchas come from stupid, this comes from math [00:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 4 @ 0.05074957 = 0.203 BTC [-] {2} [00:38]
moiety [71.43 think i will stop there.] ty, this is a good example [00:39]
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jurov lol that would be proper anticaptcha [00:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.000851 = 28.3809 BTC [-] {2} [00:40]
jurov no humans allowed [00:40]
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moiety http://www.scpr.org/news/2014/02/09/42085/dumb-starbucks-coffee-shop-opens-in-los-feliz/ [00:55]
mod6 ;;view [00:55]
gribble #19541 Sun Feb 9 17:54:58 2014 mod6 BUY 100000.0 ATC @ 1.8e-06 BTC ((Want to buy up to 100,000 ATC for around 0.00000180 BTC each, ~0.18 BTC total. Smaller amounts ok too! Must have WoT rating. PM me, lets make a deal!) [00:55]
ozbot 'Dumb Starbucks' stupid mystery: Who's behind the faux coffee front in Los Feliz? | 89.3 KPCC [00:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [-] [00:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12400001 = 0.372 BTC [+] [00:56]
nubbins` lovely use of parody [00:57]
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moiety the coffee is the art [00:57]
moiety lol nice. so who is up for dumb gox? [00:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+] [00:57]
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moiety you think this will lead to more? [00:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00018689 = 0.1869 BTC [+] [00:58]
mod6 ok well, guess its order #19542 now [00:59]
mod6 cleaned it up a bit. better rate if someone has mpex account and can receive btc through there. [00:59]
mod6 (will PUSH) [01:00]
mircea_popescu moiety o hey, you actualy did it ? [01:01]
moiety how could i not?! http://i.imgur.com/3sLaLCp.png [01:02]
mircea_popescu who the fuck waits an hour for a cup of coffee [01:02]
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mircea_popescu i don't care it is free, what bummery is this [01:02]
nubbins` who camps outside a store for a cheap tv? [01:02]
mircea_popescu moiety haha over a little more than 6 plays [01:02]
nubbins` i think it's an american thing [01:03]
pankkake coffee is typically a I WANT THIS NOW thing with me [01:03]
mircea_popescu nubbins` but a tv i can see. some poor people save for a tv. [01:03]
nubbins` pankkake, +1 [01:03]
mircea_popescu who the fuck saves for a cup of coffee [01:03]
pankkake especially since it comes out faster than tea, I conditionned myself like that [01:03]
nubbins` poor people who like starbucks, that's who [01:03]
mircea_popescu pankkake it's service, right ? the value of a cup of coffee in and of itself is ~zero [01:04]
nubbins` FWIW, starbucks regular drip coffee isn't any more expensive than any other coffee shop [01:04]
mircea_popescu nubbins` what's to like ?! it's a cafeteria. [01:04]
nubbins` tastes like shit for reasons which many obstinately ignore, but that's another discussion [01:04]
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mircea_popescu "Despite the popularity, customers seemed confused about what exactly was going on." [01:05]
nubbins` so, bitcoin [01:05]
mircea_popescu "I have no idea what's going on yet i'm stuffing shit in my mouth" [01:05]
mircea_popescu it is beyond me how that entire thing continues to function. [01:05]
nubbins` you'd be surprised how many people have said to me "YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU'LL GET SUED" after seeing some star wars parody shirts we printed for a client [01:06]
pankkake from what I understand it's a place you go to show how cool you are [01:06]
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mircea_popescu pankkake wouldn't all that be nullified by a) it being free and b) you waiting in line ? [01:06]
nubbins` pankkake, the feeling of power than one gets from having a very long-winded, very specific drink order plays a part in this too [01:07]
mircea_popescu wait what ?! [01:07]
pankkake of course not you have to stand in line in cool places [01:07]
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pankkake otherwise it can't be cool [01:07]
mircea_popescu wait wait. so basically... they want to be me, except with something small that they can understand. it's not "build me a thing so and so and back and forth", which is what execs do all day. [01:07]
nubbins` "i'll have a coffee" is what a prole says [01:08]
mircea_popescu it's "make me a coffee so and so etc", which hey, ceo for drinks ? [01:08]
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nubbins` "i'll have a quad grande six pump vanilla one inch steamed breve Americano" is what a cultured person says [01:08]
mircea_popescu i usually say "order me a coffee" [01:08]
nubbins` "order me a triple venti decaf 120 degrees skinny hazelnut wet latte" [01:08]
pankkake lol [01:08]
mircea_popescu well she's supposed to know what to order [01:08]
mod6 speaking of starbucks.. i hardly ever go there. but the other day i was like, "hi, tall black coffee plz." then they served me the kiddy cup. im like "wtf!?" [01:09]
nubbins` fwiw these are seriously drinks you can order [01:09]
nubbins` mod6, tall is small [01:09]
moiety mircea_popescu: wait, lmao was i only meant to have 6 tries?! [01:09]
mircea_popescu what's a venti ? [01:09]
nubbins` it's italian for 20 [01:09]
nubbins` and thus, 20oz of drink [01:09]
mircea_popescu moiety no, i mean, do like 200 [01:09]
mircea_popescu but the italians don't use ounces [01:09]
moiety and re coffee: my first thought was what are they serving? there's no licence and it's free, could be anything [01:09]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: nor do they allow starbucks in their country [01:09]
nubbins` (lel x100) [01:09]
mod6 yeah, they told me that, and im like thinkin... 'only in starbucks-universe, when someone orders a `tall` they give you a kiddy cup' [01:09]
mircea_popescu so how do you say tall, grande ? [01:10]
moiety ahhh but but but mircea_popescu ... i'm at 71% lol that won't stick if i keep playing XD [01:10]
nubbins` mod6, the kiddy cup is a "short" [01:10]
nubbins` from smallest to biggest: short, tall, grande, venti [01:10]
mod6 *sigh* [01:10]
mircea_popescu what happens if i order insalata caprese ? [01:10]
nubbins` short isn't on the menu [01:10]
mod6 when did coffee get so complicated? [01:10]
mircea_popescu mod6 when the us got involved. [01:10]
mod6 ^^ [01:10]
moiety what on earth do they call espressos? [01:10]
nubbins` mod6, when the average disposable income reached a certain point [01:10]
pankkake I've been almost a week without coffee, this discussion is torture! [01:10]
nubbins` moiety: espresso :) [01:11]
mircea_popescu pankkake so have some coffee [01:11]
moiety nubbins`: so disappointing... [01:11]
nubbins` nod. [01:11]
pankkake forbidden by my doctor [01:11]
moiety decaff! [01:11]
mircea_popescu your doctor who is french forbid to you, a frenchman, coffee ? and this happened in france ? [01:11]
nubbins` heh [01:11]
mircea_popescu what are you supposed to do after lunch ? [01:11]
nubbins` drink cigarette tea? [01:11]
moiety malpractice! [01:11]
mod6 cocaine [01:11]
nubbins` heh [01:12]
pankkake it's temporary of course [01:12]
pankkake no alcohol either [01:12]
pankkake no sport (that, I can do) [01:12]
mircea_popescu and no girljuice ? [01:12]
nubbins` "The Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie Iced Vanilla Double-Shot Gingerbread Frappuccino Extra Hot With Foam Whipped Cream Upside Down Double Blended, One Sweet'N Low and One Nutrasweet, and Ice is the longest possible order you could order at Starbucks." [01:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59889998 BTC [+] [01:13]
pankkake :| [01:13]
mircea_popescu half-soy ? [01:13]
mircea_popescu what's the other half ? [01:13]
mod6 holy shit nubbins` [01:13]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, milk [01:13]
pankkake so I guess starbucks, with macdonalds, is a place where I will never understand orders [01:13]
moiety you poor soul pankkake how long have you got to suffer this lifestyle? [01:13]
mircea_popescu but that's not nonfat [01:13]
nubbins` skim milk. [01:13]
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pankkake moiety: hopefully just a few days [01:13]
mircea_popescu moiety he could just get an enema, but he's too bicurious for that. [01:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00085259 = 14.8777 BTC [+] [01:14]
pankkake sadly only straight [01:14]
nubbins` “This is exactly why I only order the Blueberry Muffins from Starbucks.” ~ Oscar Wilde [01:14]
moiety lol [01:14]
mircea_popescu what happens if you go "vodka" [01:14]
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moiety gonna make kiwi and apple muffins tomorrow [01:14]
nubbins` confused looks [01:14]
pankkake what would happen if I go to there and ask for coffee, black? [01:14]
moiety sounds like a plan to find out mircea_popescu [01:15]
nubbins` they ask if you want a dark or medium roast [01:15]
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moiety they probably wouldn't understand pankkake [01:15]
mircea_popescu i don't think they have one in this town, and likely i wouldn't want to go there anyway [01:15]
nubbins` they actually wonder if you'd like a dark roast or pure carbon [01:15]
nubbins` but they say "dark or medium" [01:15]
mircea_popescu what if you go there and tell the girl "i just want you for the sex" ? [01:15]
moiety i never know if im in starbucks or costa coffee [01:15]
moiety i think they call the police mircea_popescu [01:15]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, they pour scalding water on you [01:15]
mircea_popescu how do they call the police ? "hello officer. vente low fat nutrasour evilguy!!!!" ? [01:16]
nubbins` notably, international starbucks locations all use the same terminology [01:16]
nubbins` so you can go to a starbucks in, say, romania and order the same drink you do in seattle [01:16]
moiety lololololol [01:16]
mircea_popescu but i don't order it in seattle either [01:16]
mircea_popescu so i guess this is true... [01:16]
nubbins` a hypothetical you [01:16]
mircea_popescu that could be a song [01:17]
nubbins` not even mcdonald's provides this level of americanization [01:17]
mircea_popescu like for a chick with a guitar [01:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [01:17]
nubbins` "i guess this is true... a hypothetical you..." [01:17]
mircea_popescu "a hypotetical you darlin' [01:17]
mircea_popescu ridin' a hipopotamus [01:17]
mircea_popescu could order in a hypopotetical romania [01:17]
nubbins` "complex coffee for two..." [01:17]
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mircea_popescu the same coffee he wouldn't order in seattle either" [01:17]
moiety i really want coffee now too [01:17]
pankkake I need to find more of the coffee I got at christmas. from tanzania [01:17]
nubbins` know what pisses me off about tanzanian coffee? [01:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [01:18]
mircea_popescu that it spins around your kitchen screaming ? [01:18]
pankkake lol [01:18]
nubbins` no, that you can only buy peaberry coffee from there [01:18]
mircea_popescu or is that the tanzanian toffee [01:18]
davout "complex coffee for two..." <<< lmao [01:18]
mod6 haha [01:18]
nubbins` that's tasmanian [01:18]
mircea_popescu nubbins` that's just the italian spelling [01:18]
dub why this talk of starbucks and coffee [01:18]
nubbins` heh [01:18]
mircea_popescu dub because people saw dumb on a marquee and got all excited [01:18]
nubbins` seriously tho. [01:18]
dub if you like coffee you've never been to startbucks [01:18]
mircea_popescu "o, it's our time now!!" [01:19]
nubbins` on average, 5% of coffee beans are peaberries. [01:19]
nubbins` and yet EVERY BAG OF COFFEE YOU CAN FIND from tanzania is 100% peaberries [01:19]
nubbins` and it's almost impossible to find a non-tanzanian peaberry [01:19]
pankkake what's peaberry? [01:19]
mircea_popescu they're probably peeberries anyway [01:19]
nubbins` this is for no good reason other than some asshole decades ago decided "hey, i'll sell all these peaberries as a tanzanian thing" [01:19]
nubbins` pankkake, it's when there's one bean in the cherry instead of two [01:19]
nubbins` http://www.seriouseats.com/images/20110115-peaberry.jpg [01:20]
nubbins` left is peaberry, right is normal [01:20]
davout it looks like potato-coffee [01:20]
pankkake oh… I don't remember how mine was [01:20]
mircea_popescu scam. my coffee was liquid [01:21]
mircea_popescu none of this solid fruit looking stuff [01:21]
nubbins` peaberry coffee is very dry [01:21]
pankkake thankfully you put water in it [01:21]
nubbins` feels like tea in your mouth [01:21]
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nubbins` some people prefer peaberry because they've been more carefully selected, but.. shrug [01:22]
nubbins` dub: my first coffee experiences as an adult were starbucks [01:22]
nubbins` then one day i had a real cup [01:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4150 @ 0.00085631 = 3.5537 BTC [+] {2} [01:23]
nubbins` amazing bot [01:23]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [01:23]
nubbins` just checkin [01:23]
dub I'd die before going to starbucks [01:24]
nubbins` that's a bit extreme [01:24]
pankkake I don't think you are allowed in without a macbook anyway [01:24]
nubbins` ^ heh [01:24]
Duffer1 ha [01:24]
mircea_popescu o look, davout uses lvmh for a compiler. [01:24]
nubbins` saw a photo once of some asshole with a desktop computer set up in a starbucks [01:24]
davout mircea_popescu: hehe [01:25]
mod6 nubbins`: he was there for the lan party [01:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18150 @ 0.00085654 = 15.5462 BTC [+] {2} [01:25]
nubbins` speaking of compiling, eulora fans are clamouring for a new release [01:25]
nubbins` mod6: lan, lattes and ___? [01:25]
mircea_popescu yeah, i know. [01:25]
mircea_popescu lan, lattes and lycantrophy [01:26]
mod6 laaaaaaaaaag [01:26]
nubbins` there ya go [01:26]
davout i'll have a Double Ristretto Venti Half-Soy Nonfat Decaf Organic Chocolate Brownie compiler pl0x [01:26]
nubbins` i have a friend who used to work at a starbucks [01:26]
nubbins` the assholes would be secretly given decaf mon-thurs and regular on fridays [01:27]
nubbins` start the day off with a nice migraine [01:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02761 = 0.2761 BTC [-] [01:27]
mircea_popescu pool rate 373GH/s whoa altcoin is diggin' it [01:27]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you mean that camel piss is so bad people who drink it regularly can't tell decaf from normal ? [01:28]
mircea_popescu i can tell you if the milk is 2% or 2.5% ffs. [01:28]
mod6 "i paid $8 for it, it /must/ be what I ordered!" [01:28]
mircea_popescu well then everyone's happy. [01:29]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: it's burnt to char, it all tastes the fucking same [01:29]
nubbins` BBL CHILI :DDDDDD [01:29]
mircea_popescu hey this blockr.io thing is neat. [01:30]
mod6 ya! [01:30]
jurov gentlemen, should i happen to end up in starbucks again, [01:32]
jurov whats the the code for proper, nicely smelling, italian espresso? [01:32]
copumpkin "un espresso per favore" [01:32]
moiety i might just go and make muffins now, to go with coffee [01:32]
jurov so far i only attained some unidenfifiable brown beverage [01:33]
mircea_popescu jurov mezzo serbatoio benzina, schiuma greggio e stronzi oca galleggianti [01:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [-] [01:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.124 = 0.372 BTC [-] [01:34]
jurov haha [01:34]
jurov and the other day we went trying taco bell "they rly eat this????" [01:34]
mircea_popescu might take a venti or two in there, not sure. [01:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+] [01:35]
jurov everyone around here got addicted to original lavazza/franck and he like [01:36]
jurov i don't see starbucks happening here anytime soon [01:36]
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herbijudlestoids mornin chaps [01:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [-] [01:37]
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jurov evening herbi [01:39]
jurov had cofee already? [01:39]
mircea_popescu heya. [01:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 13 @ 0.19376446 = 2.5189 BTC [+] {2} [01:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 13 @ 0.124 = 1.612 BTC [-] {2} [01:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+] [01:41]
herbijudlestoids jurov: i dont drink coffee [01:42]
KRS-One people where i live even make fun of taco bell...we call it "taco hell" [01:42]
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moiety i have never sampled a taco in my life [01:44]
jurov didn't miss anything [01:44]
nubbins` taco bell sucks [01:44]
jurov *you haven't missed anything [01:44]
Duffer1 bro, do you even burrito [01:44]
moiety hi herbi! [01:44]
nubbins` fries supreme is pretty good [01:44]
moiety lol enchiladas ftw [01:45]
nubbins` rest of it is just boiled turd [01:45]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, you have 2% AND 2.5% milk? [01:45]
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mircea_popescu some countries are shitty and do 2% and 3%. some countries are beter and do 2.5% and 4% [01:45]
moiety gold top is the way forward in the milk world [01:45]
mircea_popescu i normally drink 6% unpasteurised farm stuff [01:45]
nubbins` we have 0, 0.5, 1, 2, 3.25 [01:46]
nubbins` and then various creams and blends [01:46]
mircea_popescu that's shitty. [01:46]
* nubbins` shrugs [01:46]
nubbins` i like 1% [01:46]
samson_ Dairy fat is good for you [01:46]
mircea_popescu why not just buy some actual milk and water it down yourself then [01:46]
nubbins` because canada [01:46]
mircea_popescu 1% really has no business costing more than 1/3 of 3% [01:46]
nubbins` it's highly illegal to sell unpasteurized milk here [01:47]
mircea_popescu derp. [01:47]
nubbins` like, you'll go to jail [01:47]
mircea_popescu see ? shitty. [01:47]
nubbins` like, you can't even buy shares in a fucking cow [01:47]
mircea_popescu shares in a cow ?! [01:47]
nubbins` some farmer here used to sell unpasteurized milk [01:47]
nubbins` gov said no [01:47]
mircea_popescu what, you can't pool your moneyz with someone to buy a cow ? [01:47]
nubbins` so he sold essentially cow timeshares [01:47]
nubbins` entitling you to % of milk [01:47]
mircea_popescu haha [01:47]
nubbins` unpasteurized, natch [01:47]
nubbins` GOV SAID NO [01:48]
nubbins` charged his ass [01:48]
moiety gold top is 5.4% fat [01:48]
mircea_popescu who asked gov ? [01:48]
nubbins` well that's the rub [01:48]
mircea_popescu moiety sounds like a shade under ok. they prolly skim a little to make butter or w/e [01:48]
Duffer1 was he not selling it in a bag? that could be the trouble [01:48]
nubbins` no-fucking-body [01:48]
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nubbins` Duffer1 this "bag" thing is a mainland construct [01:48]
nubbins` here we do not have bag milk [01:48]
Duffer1 :P [01:48]
moiety it's lovely mircea_popescu i could live off it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Island_milk it's just like cream really [01:49]
moiety the cows are smaller apparently [01:49]
nubbins` now ostensibly the people buying this unpasteurized milk knew what they were doing [01:49]
nubbins` but hey [01:49]
nubbins` father knows best! [01:49]
mircea_popescu it's actually kinda unhealthy for kids to never have raw milk [01:50]
nubbins` oh, psh [01:50]
mircea_popescu i guess it's ok if they were breastfed, but anyway [01:50]
nubbins` it's unhealthy to not consume the milk of another species? [01:50]
mircea_popescu nubbins` cows are not exactly another species. [01:50]
moiety a woman just breastfed a puppy to save it's life [01:50]
nubbins` this should be good [01:50]
* nubbins` settles in [01:50]
nubbins` do tell! [01:50]
mircea_popescu the introduction of the cow marked a major explosion in human society and evolution [01:50]
mircea_popescu we aren't human in any sense if that sense excludes cows. [01:50]
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mircea_popescu we're a construct of our history, and they're in there. [01:51]
jurov and goats [01:51]
nubbins` how about all the places where cow milk isn't really a thing? [01:51]
mircea_popescu nubbins` those places are real shitholes. [01:51]
nubbins` south korea [01:51]
mod6 they dont' count [01:51]
mod6 haha [01:51]
mircea_popescu there's a reason europe kicked butt, and that reason has a lot to do with cows [01:51]
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nubbins` sure, but that's like saying wheat isn't another species [01:52]
mircea_popescu this all aside : it's not unhealthy per se. it's just that the imune system beenfits from the "dirty" that cow milk is. [01:52]
nubbins` sure, yeah [01:52]
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mircea_popescu that's about all. [01:52]
jurov except in times where it got its butt kicked by herds from the east (that subsisted almost exclusively on milk) [01:52]
nubbins` feeding your kid worms is healthy if you wanna go that route [01:52]
mircea_popescu jurov something like that. blood too i guess [01:53]
mircea_popescu nubbins` but see, we're not culturally and anthropologically a thing that resulted from 5k years of worm eating. [01:53]
mod6 we feed our kids happy meals and grape soda... so there you hvae it. [01:53]
mod6 2 litres at a time!!!!!1 [01:53]
mircea_popescu when you say "human" you say that kind of chimp which domesticated cows and then drank their milk and so on and so forth [01:54]
nubbins` i'll have a 2 liter happy meal please! [01:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+] [01:54]
nubbins` b.mine b.sell b.exch [01:55]
nubbins` b.realforonceinyourlife [01:55]
nubbins` so norway is doing well so far in sochi [01:56]
nubbins` 7 medals, 2 gold [01:56]
KRS-One Fkrs [01:56]
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KRS-One authenitc mexican food is quite good [01:57]
mod6 remember when the medals use to be actual gold, silver and copper? at the last olympics they were just 'coated'. this time I've seen gaping holes in the medals. [01:57]
mircea_popescu whoa what a scam. [01:58]
nubbins` was it last time that the medals looked like CD-Rs? [01:58]
mod6 srsly mp [01:58]
mircea_popescu "everyone gets paper medals" wtf. [01:58]
nubbins` KRS-One, authentic * is generally pretty good [01:58]
mircea_popescu yet another reason for me not to compete in the olympics [01:58]
mircea_popescu other than being too old and too lazy [01:58]
nubbins` marginally too old [01:58]
nubbins` there was a 33yo woman today won a medal in snowboarding [01:58]
mircea_popescu what'd i do, olympic shooting ? [01:59]
nubbins` yeah! [01:59]
mircea_popescu i guess that. [01:59]
nubbins` just learn to ski and there's biathlon right there [01:59]
mircea_popescu i can sky sort-of but meh [01:59]
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mod6 http://www.sochi2014.com/en/news-the-sochi-2014-organizing-committee-unveils-olympic-and-paralympic-winter-games-medals [01:59]
ozbot 403 Forbidden [01:59]
mod6 wtf [01:59]
nubbins` cut your dick off and compete with the women [01:59]
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nubbins` lel @ ozbot [01:59]
mircea_popescu why would i want to compete with women w/o my dick ? that's the only reason to even do it [01:59]
nubbins` well they do a pants-check [02:00]
mircea_popescu why do they keep bundling olymptics with the lame&tard mockfest [02:00]
mircea_popescu is the idea someone will somehow consider them the same thing somewhere sometime ? [02:00]
nubbins` i think it's more because everything is already set up [02:01]
mod6 things that make you go "hmmm." The last Olympic games where medals were made entirely of gold was 1912. [02:01]
nubbins` why break down the tables after the boy scouts banquet if the girl guides banquet is tomorrow? [02:01]
mircea_popescu so basically, since i have a bed anyway, some guy unrelated might as well come take a nap. [02:01]
nubbins` sure, yeah, if you're in a hotel. [02:01]
mircea_popescu mod6 100% gold is a problem tho. [02:01]
mod6 If the London 2012 Games medals were made from solid gold, they would cost £25 million to make. [02:01]
mircea_popescu it's practically chocolate [02:01]
mod6 HAHAH [02:01]
mircea_popescu comes off on your fingers [02:01]
nubbins` heh [02:01]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i wouldn't go to that hotel, cause im fucking cool, being the olympics. [02:02]
nubbins` heh. [02:02]
nubbins` i didn't think 100% gold was a thing, anyway. [02:02]
mircea_popescu and no you can't have my knife, this isn't a cafeteria, it's a restaurant [02:02]
mircea_popescu etc [02:02]
mircea_popescu didn't he say completely ? [02:02]
nubbins` entirely, but yes [02:03]
nubbins` 1912, i'd say they were lucky to get three 9s of purity [02:03]
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nubbins` this is based on no research, but i stand by it [02:04]
mircea_popescu nah, you can get infinitely pure gold even on 1800s tech [02:04]
mod6 Olympic Gold medals are required to be made from at least 92.5% silver, and must contain a minimum of 6 grams of gold. [02:04]
mod6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_medal [02:04]
ozbot Gold medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [02:04]
nubbins` infinitely? not likely [02:04]
nubbins` 99.999% is the best i've ever heard of [02:04]
mircea_popescu nubbins` only limited by your patience [02:04]
nubbins` and bankroll [02:05]
mircea_popescu well eyah [02:05]
nubbins` but still! [02:05]
nubbins` five 9s is, i think, the record [02:05]
mircea_popescu actually, you can prolly get three 9s at home in your kitchen [02:05]
nubbins` nod [02:05]
nubbins` diminishing returns after that [02:05]
nubbins` i think generally five 9s isn't done often because it's not worth the trouble [02:05]
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mircea_popescu pretty much [02:06]
nubbins` altho once you're set up, no big deal [02:06]
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nubbins` canada sells 99999 bullion at ~spot [02:06]
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nubbins` untold $ to set up that sort of facility tho, no doubt [02:07]
mircea_popescu not really, man. just wash it in acid, piss in the thing [02:07]
mircea_popescu repeat until you're bored. [02:07]
nubbins` i think it would take me a while to get bored with pissing on gold [02:08]
nubbins` wow, they didn't even award gold medals until the 3rd modern olympics [02:09]
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nubbins` was only silver/bronze for the first two [02:09]
mircea_popescu gold is valuable, yo. [02:10]
mircea_popescu almost like bitcoin [02:10]
nubbins` btc medal [02:10]
mircea_popescu (fun fact : even at the height at the gold standard, gold was RARELY seen in commerce if at all [02:10]
mircea_popescu most shopkeepers could live an entire shopkeeping life without ever seeing a gold coin) [02:10]
nubbins` but don't worry, stackers, you'll totally be able to use your krugerrands to buy groceries when SHTF [02:11]
mircea_popescu yeah, totally. [02:11]
the20year Ammo is much more useful [02:11]
the20year Just as good as a commodity as gold/silver, but can be used :) [02:12]
punkman cow might be better [02:12]
mircea_popescu i'd totally want to go hunting with a suppply of bullets that's spent the past three years being handled and knocked around in pockets by 5000 dorks. [02:12]
the20year Animals i'm sure could be used, but they're not easily transportable. [02:12]
mircea_popescu prolly shoot myself after the first two hours [02:12]
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the20year Most of the guys that I know that stockpile ammo are keeping it in the factory sealed cans. In the US we get quite a bit of warsaw pac stuff that was designed to have 300+ year shelf lifes [02:13]
mircea_popescu yeah, but this is before shtf. [02:13]
herbijudlestoids john hussman is my fav fund manager...every monday he releases a weekly market comment, its a happy read for me http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc140210.htm [02:13]
benkay if you're really hedging against needing lots of bullets wouldn't it be better to throw down the cash for a milling machine and buy the individual chemical components? [02:14]
nubbins` i've got my doubts that any bullet would pass through more than a couple of hands after shtf [02:14]
benkay then mill the components into powder on demand? [02:14]
nubbins` benkay, what's a milling machine? [02:14]
mircea_popescu benkay down the same route : wouldn't the best investment be a large supply of keys to already installed cock cages ? [02:15]
nubbins` is that one of those weird things that doesn't work anymore since the shtf? [02:15]
mircea_popescu nubbins` no because it's hand operated by cockcaged slave guys [02:15]
the20year Depends benkay, the components are stockpiled by plenty of people, but not everyone has the knowhow to reload, and most shooters dont' trust other people who reload the ammo [02:15]
benkay no, no. a hand-cranked mill that mills powders into well-mixed other powders. [02:15]
the20year Too easy to doublecharge something and blow someone up [02:15]
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nubbins` the20year, that's actually perfect [02:16]
benkay cock cages? [02:16]
nubbins` "i'll trade you 1 bullet for that chicken" [02:16]
the20year The chemical components are extremely expensive for modern powders and highly controlled, or you could buy a 8lb, or 24lb jug of mixed powder [02:16]
nubbins` guy takes your bullet, blows his face off [02:16]
nubbins` then you get all his chickens. [02:16]
mircea_popescu lol [02:16]
the20year The US did that in vietnam quite a bit, filled enemy bullets with high explosives and let them kill themselves [02:16]
nubbins` sneaky [02:16]
mircea_popescu and they totally won o nthat strategy [02:16]
nubbins` ^ [02:17]
nubbins` well they got all the chickens anyway [02:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0055 = 0.55 BTC [02:17]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it was mostly desperation, by that point. wasn't that widely employed, but hey. anything to maybe get an edge [02:17]
the20year For what it was, it was pretty effective, granted the US military foray into vietnam in of itself was idocy [02:17]
nubbins` ever try fighting a man who just ate a full chicken? [02:17]
nubbins` he doesn't want to be at it [02:17]
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mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids "are about double the level that would generate historically adequate long-term returns" [02:17]
nubbins` "fuck off dude, srsly" [02:17]
the20year It's slightly more diffcult than people who are nearly starving to death, ala stalingrad/leningrad [02:18]
mircea_popescu i'd say the man is well within range. that's about where i see it too. [02:18]
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nubbins` ;;ticker --market btcc [02:19]
gribble BTCChina BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 739.2467, Best ask: 739.248349, Bid-ask spread: 0.00165, Last trade: 739.2467, 24 hour volume: 5719.74300000, 24 hour low: 739.2467, 24 hour high: 742.401237, 24 hour vwap: None [02:19]
the20year I hope the end of CNY helps prices [02:19]
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nubbins` ;;ticker --market btce [02:19]
gribble BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 696.0, Best ask: 698.499, Bid-ask spread: 2.49900, Last trade: 695.599, 24 hour volume: 12327.09818, 24 hour low: 671.0, 24 hour high: 730.0, 24 hour vwap: 700.5 [02:19]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: he is a genius [02:19]
nubbins` the end of cny? [02:19]
the20year ;;ticker -- market coinbase [02:19]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message) [02:19]
nubbins` i guess i could have just done --market all [02:20]
the20year chinese new years, from what i had been told it has a pretty dramatic on all economics involving china [02:20]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: called both the 2000 and 2007 top and both 2003 and 2009 bottom (altho he lost out on the 2009 bottom) [02:20]
the20year I know that in my brother's case he's been waiting on $20k+ of materials and the new years delayed it [02:20]
mircea_popescu publicly ? [02:20]
nubbins` the20year, not just china [02:20]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: publicly [02:20]
mircea_popescu pretty good. [02:20]
the20year Yeah, you're right, but china was just noted in this case becaus of BTCchina [02:20]
nubbins` nod [02:20]
the20year ;;market all [02:20]
gribble Error: The "Market" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "all" in it. Try "list Market" to see the commands in the "Market" plugin. [02:20]
the20year ;;ticker market all [02:21]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the (1 more message) [02:21]
nubbins` --market [02:21]
the20year ;;ticker --market all [02:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 610 @ 0.00085181 = 0.5196 BTC [-] [02:21]
nubbins` heh you flooded gribs [02:21]
nubbins` ;;ticker --market all [02:21]
nubbins` OR MAYBE WE BOTH DID [02:21]
the20year I give up [02:21]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 669.001, vol: 19663.61274054 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 685.16, vol: 15162.33167109 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 698.497, vol: 12321.14734 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 685.23, vol: 9677.87031879 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 712.0, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 739.2467, vol: 5719.94200000 | Volume-weighted last average: 687.664329714 [02:21]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD last: 669.001, vol: 19663.81537946 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 685.17, vol: 15159.21567109 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 698.6, vol: 12321.14734 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 689.0, vol: 9677.87031879 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 712.0, vol: 0 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 739.2467, vol: 5719.94200000 | Volume-weighted last average: 688.270486674 [02:21]
nubbins` :( [02:21]
nubbins` sorry you guise [02:22]
the20year Coinbase is $720, not too bad, that's typically who we use to get usd to fiat and what not [02:22]
mircea_popescu dudes srsly, you can just pm gribble [02:22]
nubbins` i said sorry D; [02:22]
the20year My brother actually pitched the idea of bitcoin to a higher level manager at DHL, and coinbase contacted him to pass some information to DHL, i guess coinbase has some pretty neat programs for large organiations [02:22]
cazalla yeah well my dad knows the CEO of DHL [02:23]
the20year They need to listen to whomever their top guy in Ohio is then :D [02:24]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: he had one issue in 2009 when he was insisting to stress test their method against depression era data, so he missed that bottom in trade but did call it [02:24]
the20year My brother sends enough DHL packages I guess that they want to start a hub or branch or whatever where he's located [02:24]
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the20year herb, this is the fund manager you talked about earlier? [02:24]
mircea_popescu how old is the guy ? [02:24]
cazalla My brother sends twice as many DHL packages as your brother [02:25]
nubbins` YEAH WELL MY DAD IS A FUCKING COP [02:25]
mircea_popescu i bet nubbins dad could be sent to ohio by cazalla's dad [02:25]
mircea_popescu in a package [02:25]
nubbins` no doubt [02:26]
nubbins` anyway, just kidding, if my dad was a cop i'd kill myself [02:26]
the20year he'd enjoy our weather [02:26]
mircea_popescu then he could do a hood jump and arrest putin [02:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] [02:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00085067 = 13.1429 BTC [-] {2} [02:26]
the20year How is romania right now in terms of snowfall mircea_popescu? [02:26]
mircea_popescu the entire thing melted and it smells like spring [02:26]
mircea_popescu here. [02:26]
the20year Nice [02:26]
nubbins` -17c overnight here [02:26]
mircea_popescu the rest of the country, well... some snow. nothing huge. [02:26]
nubbins` basically the same [02:26]
the20year I had to shovel a 2ft high ice wall last night [02:26]
the20year Car slid off road today into a guard rail. This is the worst winter I've ever had to drive in [02:27]
herbijudlestoids the20year: yeah [02:27]
mircea_popescu some people from somalia had to drive to kenya or something [02:27]
cazalla we've had heat wave after heat wave over the past few weeks in australia [02:27]
mircea_popescu to get out of the disaster area [02:27]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: um, i guess 40ish? [02:27]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids trying to discern if i should have his history dug up or not. [02:27]
the20year we're gonna hit -17c a few times next week [02:27]
nubbins` maybe all this weird weather is from not burning enough dinosaur mud [02:27]
mircea_popescu cazalla well now we finally know who's causing all the global warming. STOP IT [02:28]
the20year Our record low with windchill so far this year was -50 [02:28]
cazalla a few weeks back we had 40c+ for 5 days straight [02:28]
nubbins` fun fact, we have a ton of offshore oil fields here, and they just burn off all the natural gas on site instead of doing something useful with it [02:28]
the20year Is that pretty untypical? [02:28]
cazalla i had to bring my meat rabbits inside [02:28]
the20year Nubbins, you in the US or somewhere else? [02:28]
nubbins` eastern canada [02:29]
the20year No mister for them caz? [02:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.07080001 = 0.708 BTC [-] {5} [02:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 200 @ 0.00086515 = 0.173 BTC [+] {2} [02:29]
the20year They used to do that all the time locally, but anymore they bottle/compress it or something else [02:29]
nubbins` well that would be the sensible thing [02:29]
the20year The compression systems aren't cheap, but i did manage to find one a few years ago that ran off of natural gas [02:29]
the20year so your only imput was natural gas, output was compressed or liquified [02:30]
cazalla the20year: nope but i don't think that'd done much for them in 40+ heat for 5 days [02:30]
cazalla do* [02:30]
nubbins` i have a hard time believing that the compression systems are so uneconomical that the better solution is to just waste it all [02:30]
the20year We have 40c days here in Ohio and that's usually what they do [02:30]
nubbins` makes me wonder [02:30]
the20year I'm sure it all depends on how much gas [02:30]
nubbins` nod [02:30]
the20year the one I looked at took 50% to 70% of the input to compress it [02:30]
nubbins` huh. [02:31]
the20year Specifically, i was looking at building a methane digester and compressing the gas [02:31]
mircea_popescu nubbins` maybe the hassle of getting permits is such that they're just making a point. [02:31]
the20year Compressing NG isn't cheap [02:31]
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nubbins` mircea_popescu, there's no such thing as a hassle here [02:31]
nubbins` if you want to plunder resources [02:31]
nubbins` they'll name a building after ya [02:31]
mircea_popescu lol [02:31]
nubbins` "we have height restrictions on all buildings in the downtown core" [02:32]
nubbins` "we are a large company that wishes to build a highrise" [02:32]
nubbins` "lel jk about that restriction thing" [02:32]
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the20year nubbins, you in alberta? [02:34]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids http://www.hussmanfunds.com/theFunds.html << why the fuck is he -5% over 5 years [02:34]
nubbins` the20year, east coast [02:36]
nubbins` was married in alberta tho! [02:36]
the20year ah [02:36]
the20year NB, quebec or some such? [02:36]
nubbins` NL [02:36]
the20year nl? [02:37]
nubbins` easternmost province in canada [02:37]
the20year nm [02:37]
the20year i didn't realize people lived there [02:37]
nubbins` ... [02:37]
ThickAsThieves https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111 [02:37]
ThickAsThieves someone put altcoin in an exchange [02:38]
nubbins` consider yourself realized, i guess :D [02:38]
ThickAsThieves Rawt [02:38]
ThickAsThieves sorry [02:38]
ThickAsThieves r3wt [02:38]
nubbins` a newfoundlander invented the gas mask! [02:38]
the20year cool [02:38]
the20year you were once a british colony [02:38]
nubbins` the first giant squid corpse ever found washed ashore here! [02:38]
nubbins` yes, until 1949 [02:38]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: basically in 2009 he mandated that they stress test their method on pre WW2 depression era data to validate it, and consequently missed the bottom. by the time he was satisfied the market had returned to overbought/overvalued/overbullish/rising yields state [02:38]
the20year Payment for fighting ww2 :) [02:38]
nubbins` the20year, we didn't "fight" in ww2 :) [02:39]
herbijudlestoids so hes been essentially fully hedged since 2009 and paying for the puts [02:39]
the20year Canada was certainly involved [02:39]
mircea_popescu this is incredibly stupid ;/ [02:39]
nubbins` yes, for sure [02:39]
the20year Granted, many times under control of idiotic english generals [02:39]
nubbins` most newfoundland men of age were slaughtered in ww1 [02:39]
mircea_popescu so he's fighting the fed on his shoestring budget ? what is this, the internet ? [02:39]
nubbins` we didn't send any soldiers for ww2 [02:39]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: it turns out in hindsight that their method would have worked perfectly but he wanted to be sure [02:39]
the20year Canada - The poland of the commonwealth [02:39]
the20year I meant canada in General [02:40]
nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont-Hamel_Newfoundland_Memorial [02:40]
nubbins` anyway, newfoundland was british for both world wars [02:40]
nubbins` mildly funny to see canadian flags flown on remembrance day here [02:40]
mircea_popescu http://24.media.tumblr.com/6880f31099d85c43fedb66c430111269/tumblr_mkhcyrDViE1r7ryano1_500.jpg [02:40]
the20year they fly US flags in hawaii and Alaska during our veteran memorial days [02:40]
the20year I guess it's better than flying the UK flag [02:41]
nubbins` heh [02:41]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: well he doesnt really view the "fighting the fed" angle as valid, he doesnt believe QE has any proven mechanism for higher prices and shows pretty convincing data on that front. his view is the rally since 2009 is entirely attributable to the FASB mark to unicorn rules [02:41]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, saved [02:41]
nubbins` ;p [02:41]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids a distinction ultimately without a difference [02:41]
the20year fasb? [02:42]
herbijudlestoids ;;google fasb [02:42]
gribble FASB Home: ; Facts About FASB: ; Standards - FASB: [02:42]
mircea_popescu the us cook your books authority. [02:42]
nubbins` fasb, flambeeing and sauteeing books [02:42]
herbijudlestoids lots of new blocks churning on altcoin today [02:42]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids the argument isn't that in an actually functioning economy with actual accounting and reporting the virtual equivalent of the fed could prop up prices by printing paper. [02:43]
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the20year NL did manage a artillery regiment in ww2 [02:43]
mircea_popescu the argument is that in the actual dysfunctional economy as it is, without any accounting or reporting, the fed can SAY it did anything it pleases, and SAY it had whatever effect it choses [02:43]
herbijudlestoids so wut? does that have any proven link to higher stock prices? no [02:44]
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herbijudlestoids the whole point of the hussman funds is to invest based on proven transmission mechanisms [02:44]
mircea_popescu pretty much the only way to profitably invest in equity in the soviet us is by being friendly with the us politburo. [02:44]
herbijudlestoids breadth, valuation, sentiment, rates, etc [02:44]
the20year So do you have seasons in NL [02:45]
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mircea_popescu that'd be the only proven and conceptually sound transmission mechanism, [02:45]
nubbins` the20year: ah, ya learn something new every day [02:45]
mircea_popescu and i wonder why's he not lobbying then. [02:45]
the20year I'm big on ww2 history, it was pretty easy to find out whether they sent infantry, i was pretty sure they sent something [02:45]
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nubbins` yeah [02:46]
nubbins` there were entire communities here essentially wiped out by ww1 [02:46]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: you might like this article http://hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc100823.htm [02:46]
the20year Yeah , that was pretty common with commonwealth troops during WW1. All the colonies got screwed by England when they started having manpower shortgages [02:47]
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the20year Australia had sometimes similarissues, but more canadians were involved in events like passendale and the somme that obliterated large division sized units [02:48]
herbijudlestoids ThickAsThieves: yo you around? [02:49]
the20year And they kind of had the similar opinion/use of commonwealth troops during ww2, just look at dieppe [02:49]
nubbins` yeah, there's some connection between newfoundland and passchendaele [02:49]
nubbins` the details escape me [02:50]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids his model is fundamentally broken. the relative prices of currencies are to a large degree fixed politically. [02:50]
the20year 67k deaths, 150k wounded just abotu for canada and australia each [02:51]
the20year 4.5m total aussies at that time, 7.5m canadians at that time [02:51]
nubbins` war: not so much of a lel [02:51]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20185 @ 0.00085153 = 17.1881 BTC [+] {2} [02:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1510 @ 0.00019 = 0.2869 BTC [+] {3} [02:53]
ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves: yo you around? --- for a few minutes or so [02:54]
herbijudlestoids damnit, i forgot what i was going to ask you lol [02:56]
herbijudlestoids oh right, is there a blockchain explorer up for altcoin? [02:56]
mircea_popescu yes. [02:57]
mircea_popescu atc.blockr.io [02:57]
ThickAsThieves i'm rolling the dice and sending some btc to this exchange [02:58]
ThickAsThieves the guy seems to have a history of outing scammers [02:58]
ThickAsThieves maybe he's okay [02:58]
herbijudlestoids thx. [02:59]
Duffer1 to r3wt? [02:59]
ThickAsThieves yeah [02:59]
mircea_popescu what's the exchange ? [02:59]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust r3wt [02:59]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user r3wt: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=r3wt | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=r3wt | Rated since: never [02:59]
ThickAsThieves https://openex.pw/index.php?page=trade&market=111 [02:59]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves so tell him to get in the wot first [02:59]
mircea_popescu if he does your chances just improved 10x [02:59]
BingoBoingo r3wt doesn't exactly have a history himself of being reliable... [02:59]
Duffer1 he scammed some guys he devd a coin for by premining the shit out of it [02:59]
Duffer1 but manned up and apologized on the forums, hasn't changed his ID [03:00]
mircea_popescu he's like 19 n'est pas ? [03:00]
nubbins` that's essentially an adult [03:00]
herbijudlestoids herbi haz found 0 blox :( [03:00]
mircea_popescu nubbins` only for fucking. [03:01]
ThickAsThieves okay i asked him to join [03:01]
ThickAsThieves we shall see [03:01]
nubbins` http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/09/world/europe/denmark-zoo-giraffe/ [03:02]
ThickAsThieves he scammed some guys he devd a coin for by premining the shit out of it --- isnt this like impossible to get away with? [03:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19215 @ 0.00085181 = 16.3675 BTC [+] [03:03]
Duffer1 he claimed some technicality in their agreement or some such nonsense [03:04]
mircea_popescu he basically figured the op is retarded [03:04]
ThickAsThieves well get them all in wot and we'll see who weighs what [03:05]
Duffer1 this was a few month ago at least [03:05]
ThickAsThieves which reminds me [03:05]
ThickAsThieves shameless request that anyone who hasnt rated me and has good reason to, please do [03:05]
mircea_popescu which wasn't that far off, the op went into a hysteria of nutty posting [03:05]
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ThickAsThieves ;;gettrust thickasthieves [03:06]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ThickAsThieves to user thickasthieves: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ThickAsThieves&dest=thickasthieves | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thickasthieves | Rated since: Sat Mar 2 11:19:18 2013 [03:06]
nubbins` lel [03:06]
nubbins` nice graph [03:06]
nubbins` http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/crack-pipe-vending-machines-a-boon-to-vancouver-users/article16769973/?cmpid=rss1 [03:08]
benkay babeface walked into a sharp thing on my mother's pilates reformer last night, and then went running/sledding drunk and naked in the snow afterwards. now she's dancing around the apartment wincing and cursing whenever she lands on the bum leg. [03:09]
benkay it's lolarious. [03:09]
moiety ThickAsThieves: don't [03:12]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Only in Canada where your Mayors endorse them [03:12]
nubbins` just one mayor [03:13]
nubbins` anyway, 25 cents for a crack pipe [03:13]
nubbins` not a bad deal [03:13]
mircea_popescu benkay you know you'll eventually have to put up a feed. [03:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.000475 = 0.475 BTC [+] {2} [03:14]
nubbins` people piss and moan about "oh this just enables/encourages etc" [03:14]
nubbins` bullshit [03:14]
nubbins` "pipes are a quarter? maybe i'll try smoking rocks" [03:14]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: Just one Mayor that has been Caught. Eventually your Marion Berry will find their Kwame Killpatrick [03:14]
nubbins` my who and their who? [03:15]
benkay nubbins`: how can you be cool with crack pipes and not pmbs? [03:15]
nubbins` benkay, i'll leave that as an exercise to the reader [03:15]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: DC Mayor and Detroit Mayor, both liked crack [03:15]
nubbins` you seem smart, you should be able to figure it out :D [03:15]
nubbins` BingoBoingo, ah :D [03:15]
benkay nubbins`: what, crack addicts are addicted already? [03:15]
ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves: don't what? [03:16]
benkay i seriously do not get it. consider it a flaw of youth, and this your opportunity to larn me a thing. [03:16]
nubbins` you just posed a tautology as a question [03:16]
nubbins` benkay: we have free universal healthcare here in canada. [03:16]
nubbins` know what's cheaper than AIDS treatment? [03:16]
nubbins` a 25 cent crack pipe. [03:16]
benkay doesn't really address the heroin side of things, though. [03:17]
nubbins` sure [03:17]
moiety ThickAsThieves: i mean r3wt. just don't. [03:17]
benkay but mitigates i guess? [03:17]
ThickAsThieves oh [03:17]
nubbins` there's a supervised injection site in downtown vancouver [03:17]
nubbins` same thing. [03:17]
nubbins` junkies using dirty needles = healthcare burden [03:17]
nubbins` plus, outreach [03:17]
benkay no to be flip but idiots with btc = scam burden [03:18]
moiety junkies. = healthcare burden [03:18]
nubbins` some junkie goes to Insite to shoot up, not only does he not give himself hep/aids, but he's now in a room with people who can encourage him to seek treatment [03:18]
nubbins` moiety: not necessarily [03:18]
nubbins` and even then, there are degrees [03:18]
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moiety how? they are using healthcare, if not for their habit, for the issues it brings them later down the line [03:19]
nubbins` okay, but everyone is using healthcare [03:19]
moiety yep [03:19]
moiety some more than others [03:19]
nubbins` yes [03:19]
nubbins` the guy with hep c, for example, vs the guy without [03:19]
nubbins` or, put another way, the guy who shared a needle vs the guy who got a clean one [03:19]
nubbins` junkies are going to shoot up whether they have clean digs or not [03:20]
moiety or any guy using a needle clean or dirty vs a guy who doesn't [03:20]
moiety which is a burden [03:20]
benkay everyone's a burden on healthcare, moiety. idiots who eat too many carbs and develop diabetes are vastly more expensive than junkies. [03:20]
nubbins` the purpose of safe injection sites is to prevent junkies from getting hep c and try to get them to clean up [03:20]
moiety totally agree with you there benkay [03:20]
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nubbins` anyway, the big mistake people make is thinking that safe injection sites, free crack pipes etc "enable" drug users [03:22]
nubbins` which is laughable [03:22]
moiety it is, if they want it they will get it [03:22]
nubbins` exactly. [03:22]
nubbins` social conservatives struggle with this concept [03:23]
moiety cleaner practice is always the ideal [03:23]
nubbins` 76% of vancouver residents support the existence of Insite [03:23]
nubbins` think about that: THREE QUARTERS of a major metropolitan city would rather the junkies have a safe, clean place to shoot up [03:24]
moiety i think 100% would rather not see them staggering/laying around places either [03:24]
nubbins` oh, sure [03:25]
moiety this way, they are contained too [03:25]
nubbins` the other side is dirty needles [03:25]
nubbins` you want 'em in the streets or in a sharps container? [03:25]
moiety you get a lot here [03:26]
benkay just a short slide from locking all of the undesireables up in crappy hi-rises. i endorse. [03:26]
benkay "have some tv, water, food-paste, sharps, internet. go to town, kids! just don't leave the tower." [03:26]
nubbins` they busted a house across the street from a dive bar i frequent some months ago [03:26]
nubbins` found a GOLF BAG full of dirty needles [03:27]
nubbins` FULL. [03:27]
mircea_popescu junkies are going to shoot up whether they have clean digs or not << the solution isn't to let them do w/e they want cause otherwise they hold their breath [03:27]
mircea_popescu the solution is to not provide any healthcare out of public funds for any drug user. [03:27]
mircea_popescu you ever used drugs in your life ? tough. gotta pay now. [03:27]
dub thats more expensive [03:27]
nubbins` that's only a solution in la-la land [03:27]
mircea_popescu no, it's a solution in reality. the lala land is the presumption that anyone is worth something. [03:28]
dub dead body in the gutter causes more problems [03:28]
nubbins` ^ [03:28]
dub costs more than healthcare etc [03:28]
mircea_popescu while recent tech boom allowed such nonsense be financed by squandering resources that'd have been better used elsewhere, [03:28]
mircea_popescu overall the gravy train is going away [03:28]
nubbins` so how do you determine if someone has "ever" used drugs [03:28]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you test em [03:28]
dub its kinda like the argument for not fucing up the environment then dealing with it later [03:28]
nubbins` test them for what? [03:28]
dub oh wait [03:28]
mircea_popescu for your definiton of drugs [03:29]
nubbins` know what's cheaper than a drug test? [03:29]
nubbins` a 25 cent crack pipe. [03:29]
mircea_popescu i don't give a shit really. [03:29]
dub know whats mostly untestable [03:29]
nubbins` lsd? [03:29]
mircea_popescu dub no it's not. you telling me a heroin addict is untestable for junk ? [03:29]
dub after a matter of days, yes [03:29]
mircea_popescu IF he waits a few days [03:29]
mircea_popescu then no prejudice. [03:29]
dub stupid argument anyway [03:30]
mircea_popescu hah. stop sidestepping. [03:30]
dub its like arguing that prostitution be illegal [03:30]
mircea_popescu no, it's not at all like that. [03:30]
dub people are going to do it, there is an efficient way to deal and its not filling up jails [03:31]
mircea_popescu you can afford drugs, you can afford to pay the hospital bill. [03:31]
mircea_popescu do your math and make up your choices. [03:31]
nubbins` well that's the thing [03:31]
dub or exterminating people or whatever your solution is [03:31]
nubbins` there isn't an "Afford drugs" [03:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.07950001 = 0.159 BTC [+] [03:31]
mircea_popescu dub there's no "dealing". its not your motherfucking job to solve idiots problems [03:31]
mircea_popescu let them rot. [03:31]
nubbins` you're gonna steal flatscreen TVs to pay for a hospital stay? [03:31]
dub if you want an efficient society it is [03:31]
mircea_popescu nubbins` shot on the spot. [03:31]
mircea_popescu you stole a tv ? bang. [03:31]
mircea_popescu next ? [03:31]
nubbins` what's the cutoff [03:32]
nubbins` suppose you steal a loaf of bread [03:32]
nubbins` shot? [03:32]
mircea_popescu bang. [03:32]
nubbins` or just lose a hand [03:32]
dub steal a look at random chicks tits? [03:32]
mircea_popescu there's no cutoff. you're caught stealing that's it for you. [03:32]
dub some would say bang [03:32]
mircea_popescu dub nah, all that bs copyright shit is going away. [03:32]
nubbins` well [03:33]
nubbins` i can't see any flaws in this line of thinking [03:33]
nubbins` you just solved crime and drug addiction [03:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.08298893 = 0.166 BTC [+] [03:33]
mircea_popescu you're not "dealing" with people./ [03:33]
mircea_popescu you make simple rules and enforce them drastically. [03:33]
mircea_popescu that's it. [03:33]
dub do the maths [03:33]
mircea_popescu okay ? [03:33]
nubbins` not really okay [03:33]
nubbins` maybe for romania, no idea what things are like there [03:34]
mircea_popescu it's actually okay whether you like it or not. a la bitcoin. [03:34]
nubbins` in canada, it's generally accepted that people don't want things the way you describe [03:34]
mircea_popescu nobody cares what people want [03:34]
nubbins` lel [03:34]
mircea_popescu first on the list, the people themselves. [03:34]
nubbins` you're a character [03:34]
mircea_popescu people can want in one hand and piss in the other, see which fills first. [03:34]
nubbins` the want hand fills first here [03:35]
mircea_popescu da fuck did "want" become a legitimate argument anyway [03:35]
benkay well you're filthy communists. [03:35]
nubbins` liberal utopia [03:35]
nubbins` i can get my doctor to prescribe me weed [03:35]
nubbins` and the government will sell it to me [03:35]
dub you have to pay? [03:35]
nubbins` $5/gram [03:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, fwiw, in my experience works splendidly. whether you're working to destupidify women, or to build an exchange, or anything else. [03:35]
dub thats a bit harsh [03:35]
nubbins` yeah i know dude [03:35]
mircea_popescu simple rules, draconic enforcement, sayonara. [03:35]
dub except its never worked before [03:35]
dub and probably never will [03:36]
mircea_popescu dub far as i've seen it;s the only thing it ever worked. [03:36]
mircea_popescu course people who dislike shit working tend to scream it doesn't work, but hey. [03:36]
mircea_popescu do the gedankenexperiment, as asciilifeform calls them : [03:36]
mircea_popescu you go to class of schoolkids, lay down the rules for what they have to do till next class. whoever didn't do it is beaten till they pass out. [03:37]
mircea_popescu kids will scream as to how "this doesn;'tg work" [03:37]
mircea_popescu six months later ALL the kids in that class do ALL the homework ALL of the time flawlessly. [03:37]
nubbins` and ALL grow up to be normal adults and not psychopaths [03:37]
mircea_popescu and suddenly lolcatting isn't quite as appealing either, [03:37]
dub maybe at the cost of most of thier utility [03:37]
nubbins` here's another gedanken [03:37]
mircea_popescu nubbins` definitely more normal than the current crop. [03:37]
mircea_popescu dub kids have 0 utility as it is now you kidding me ? [03:37]
nubbins` alice takes oxycodone after her back surgery, bob takes oxycodone for the lels. alice and bob go to the hospital complaining of a bum knee. [03:38]
nubbins` which one gets healthcare and which one gets turned away / shot? [03:38]
dub as should be obvious, the better way to acheive your subservience is to addict you to drugs and tv [03:38]
mircea_popescu alice wants oxycodone for her surgery she stays in the hospital. [03:38]
mircea_popescu problem solved. next ? [03:38]
nubbins` hospital stays are a burden on the taxpayer, problem unsolved [03:38]
mircea_popescu dub my point being that you don't want subservience, you want competence. [03:39]
dub yeah wtf [03:39]
dub a bed for everyone that needs pain relief? [03:39]
mircea_popescu nubbins` not quite. [03:39]
nubbins` ^ [03:39]
mircea_popescu dub who needs "pain relief" when they're stuck in hospital ? [03:39]
nubbins` ^ humans? [03:39]
mircea_popescu people need pain relief if you let them outside. [03:39]
mircea_popescu you'd be surprised. [03:39]
nubbins` yeah dude, shit doesn't hurt in the hospital [03:39]
dub havent you seen the matrix? [03:39]
mircea_popescu suddenly it's a well this oxycodone is kinda cool, but im stuck here for a day cause of it. [03:39]
mircea_popescu i guess i maybe don't really need it anymore. [03:40]
nubbins` okay, so you have a herniated disc [03:40]
mircea_popescu so you do. [03:40]
nubbins` your choices are stay in the hospital for 6 months or deal with unbearable chronic pain for 6 months [03:40]
mircea_popescu yup. [03:40]
nubbins` sounds like it'd work in practice [03:40]
mircea_popescu what, you think herniated disks were invented AFTER oxycodone ? [03:40]
nubbins` wait, no it doesn't [03:40]
mircea_popescu tell you what, it's only unbearable cause you're used to being a sissy [03:40]
mircea_popescu pain is eminently bearable. [03:40]
nubbins` well if we're being obstinate, suppose alice has a job that she can't perform when experiencing high levels of pain [03:41]
mircea_popescu of all things it's actually the most bearable. as people die of thirst in a coupla days and of hunger in a coupla months [03:41]
nubbins` or do we just shoot everyone who hurts their back? [03:41]
mircea_popescu but you can be in pain indefinitely and it won't kill you. [03:41]
dub spoken like someone that doesnt know pain [03:41]
mircea_popescu nubbins` tough for her, she no longer has that job. [03:41]
mircea_popescu dub of everyone here i'm the only guy that gets his teeth fixed w/o anesthesia i'd wager. [03:42]
nubbins` okay, so what does she do now? [03:42]
mircea_popescu also probably the only guy to have ever been shot etc. [03:42]
nubbins` jobless and in pain [03:42]
mircea_popescu nubbins` tough for her. [03:42]
mircea_popescu next time she'll be more careful. [03:42]
nubbins` no, tough for the hospital staff she shoots [03:42]
mircea_popescu she shoots my ass. [03:42]
dub pff minor league [03:42]
nubbins` if your ass is in the door, yes [03:42]
mircea_popescu you give alice way too much credit while simultaneously giving her way too little credit. [03:43]
mircea_popescu if she's cool enough to start shooting she's cool enough to take it on the chin and move on. [03:43]
nubbins` you use "tough" like it's an explanation more often than an intelligent person should [03:43]
mircea_popescu because im confronted with "but mommy i don't like X" way more often than any sane person should. [03:43]
punkman mircea_popescu: I skip the anesthesia at the dentist, hate having a numb face for 4 hours after [03:44]
mircea_popescu so good for you. [03:44]
mircea_popescu how unbearable is it ? [03:44]
punkman but it's hard to stay still for the bigger fillings and shit [03:44]
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nubbins` anyway, as lovely as this little "kill everyone" scheme sounds [03:45]
mircea_popescu supposedly tooth pain is way up there on the scale. [03:45]
mod6 i went without the stuff until i had 4 teeth drilled without it. that sucked. [03:45]
nubbins` tooth pain is a bad one [03:45]
punkman I definitely sweat a bit, not that unbearable [03:45]
nubbins` inner ear pain is tough as well [03:45]
mod6 i must be getting soft [03:45]
mircea_popescu mod6 i'm not proposing some never anesthesia bs incidentally. [03:45]
mircea_popescu just illustrating the point that there's nothing unbearable about pain. [03:45]
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mircea_popescu it may not be what you want to be doing, sure, [03:46]
KRS-One wut [03:46]
nubbins` so replace "unbearable" with "excruciating" or w/e [03:46]
mircea_popescu but then again that's not the criteria now is it. [03:46]
nubbins` you're getting caught up in semantics [03:46]
KRS-One pain sucks and i wont bare it [03:46]
dub replace unbearable with 'prevents you from being fully utilised' [03:46]
mircea_popescu eh bs. [03:46]
nubbins` so alice can't get pain meds without a costly hospital stay [03:46]
punkman chronic pain is different, it can really wear you down [03:46]
dub enough to blow your retarded argument away [03:46]
mircea_popescu this utilitartian angle is not going anywhere dub [03:46]
nubbins` alice decides to self-medicate with booze [03:46]
nubbins` PROBLEM SOLVED [03:46]
benkay no nubbins` this 'kill everyone' is the actual plan. all of the above are just implementation details. [03:47]
nubbins` wait, shit, now we've got drunkards everywhere driving cars and beating their kids [03:47]
mircea_popescu nubbins` if that;s what she does good for her. [03:47]
KRS-One nubbins` I think pot is the best pain killer that isnt made in a lab [03:47]
nubbins` KRS-One, but drugs tough etc [03:47]
mircea_popescu nobody said she can drive a car drunk any more than she can have oxycodone outpatient style. [03:47]
nubbins` you should not be allowed to smoke pot unless you are in a hospital [03:47]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: who's to stop her? [03:47]
mircea_popescu you can smoke pot whenever you want, who cares. [03:47]
KRS-One nubbins` alcohol is way worse than pot..you can't overdose on da ganja either [03:48]
nubbins` so pot is fine but oxycodone isn't? [03:48]
KRS-One oxycodone is great anytime of the day or week. [03:48]
mircea_popescu nubbins` pretty much heroin is the only entry on my list of "drugs" [03:48]
nubbins` innnnteresting [03:48]
mircea_popescu your list may vary at your leisure, the argument is list independent [03:48]
nubbins` sounds like there's not much drug use in your town [03:48]
mircea_popescu kids and their pills mostly. [03:48]
dub no, they kill and eat drug users [03:48]
mircea_popescu dub no, they just don't have this "omg what do you want" culture yet [03:49]
dub clearly a winning strategy [03:49]
mircea_popescu so the society is reasonably functional still. [03:49]
mircea_popescu yeah, actually it is, dubsy. [03:49]
nubbins` heroin isn't even really a thing here [03:49]
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nubbins` cocaine and pills [03:49]
nubbins` mostly [03:49]
mircea_popescu think of utility in the following terms : people making on average 300 bucks here when rents are on average 350 bucks [03:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3278 @ 0.00019987 = 0.6552 BTC [+] {2} [03:49]
dub it probably is a thing there [03:49]
mircea_popescu go outside the little park in their projects to FIX THE BENCHES [03:49]
mircea_popescu with their own tools. [03:49]
nubbins` i do have to lel when i see people jam most of an 8ball up their nose at the bar and then ask if the coffee is "fair trade" at the shop the next day [03:49]
nubbins` was that fair trade coke you jammed up your face? [03:50]
mircea_popescu people making 900 a month in food stamps and free housing over there hang around the cortners glaring at passer bys [03:50]
mircea_popescu so no, don't be telling me about how shit functions and doesn't. [03:50]
dub heroin is very clique'y [03:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 12927 @ 0.00019999 = 2.5853 BTC [+] {8} [03:50]
nubbins` sure, but you take away that 900 and food stamps and housing tomorrow and the city would burn to the ground in a week [03:51]
mircea_popescu anyway, re the list : to be an addictive substance something needs to actually give addiction [03:51]
nubbins` much harder to take away once given [03:51]
mircea_popescu the definition of which is "sudden discontinuation = death" [03:51]
nubbins` so, booze fits the definition [03:51]
mircea_popescu not that many substances presented as addictive actually are in any sense. [03:51]
mircea_popescu nah. [03:51]
nubbins` are you new? alcohol withdrawal kills [03:51]
dub can you name one? [03:51]
mircea_popescu in lalaland. [03:51]
mircea_popescu dub heroin. some synthetics. [03:51]
dub um [03:52]
nubbins` in realworld land too [03:52]
* dub goes and does something else [03:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you know = does not mean "in one stray case out of 5498740958609" [03:52]
mircea_popescu = means = [03:52]
nubbins` ah, so kills 100% of time, ok [03:52]
nubbins` i don't think heroin fits that either [03:52]
nubbins` we're back to square one [03:52]
mircea_popescu try it sometime. [03:53]
nubbins` heroin? nah [03:53]
nubbins` i don't like needles [03:53]
mircea_popescu so then wtf basis do you "Think" on [03:53]
nubbins` try asking that a different way [03:53]
dub heroin is not instaaddict stuff [03:53]
mircea_popescu nobody said insta at any point. [03:53]
dub nor do you die when you kick [03:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00085201 = 15.3788 BTC [+] {2} [03:53]
mircea_popescu cold turkey ? yeah, you die. [03:53]
nubbins` 100% of the time [03:54]
nubbins` because = [03:54]
herbijudlestoids jebus fuck arguing over technicalities. [03:54]
herbijudlestoids heroin withdrawal kills you [03:54]
nubbins` herb, it's what we do [03:54]
herbijudlestoids clonazepam withdrawal kills you [03:54]
mircea_popescu nubbins` in the sense we rounded 1 out of 5498740958609 to 0 we'll round out of 5498740958608 out of out of 5498740958609 to 1.0 [03:54]
benkay welcome to assets, herbijudlestoids [03:54]
herbijudlestoids alcohol withdrawal does not kill you [03:54]
moiety sorry delayed response but what do you think about daily/weekly dispensing then nubbins`? [03:54]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids no no we must have fucktarded 5yo arguments about how the peas aren't really peas [03:54]
nubbins` dispensing drugs or works? [03:54]
mircea_popescu and wantboy shouldn't have to eat the peas [03:54]
moiety drugs sorry [03:55]
nubbins` moiety: beats me, does it work in practice? [03:55]
moiety depends on the aim. we used it to stop people overdosing [03:55]
nubbins` herbijudlestoids: and everyone should eat peas or they're stupid [03:55]
herbijudlestoids yall stupid. [03:55]
mircea_popescu no. everyone should eat peas or they're beaten. [03:55]
dub in theory the programs are to ween you off, not maintain [03:55]
nubbins` you kid, but that's your answer to most problems [03:56]
nubbins` whether the shoe fits or not [03:56]
mircea_popescu it is, yes. [03:56]
herbijudlestoids dub, nubbins` yall junkies? know junkies? watched your mates die? [03:56]
mircea_popescu violence is way underrated as a personal development tool. [03:56]
herbijudlestoids if not [03:56]
herbijudlestoids STFU [03:56]
nubbins` after all, if the shoe doesn't fit, it's because of libtards encouraging kids to grow their feet [03:56]
mircea_popescu nubbins` except the shoe fits fine and the princess is having a hysteria session [03:56]
mircea_popescu cause she's gots to be speshul and couldn't possibly be ever fit by a shoe [03:57]
nubbins` except abstract analogies that don't make sense [03:57]
mircea_popescu god forbid. [03:57]
nubbins` cause no argument [03:57]
mircea_popescu no shoe understands her dragon feet. [03:57]
nubbins` satan allow [03:57]
mircea_popescu this has been one of the best arguments with no actual common ground in which people talking about entirely different things that so far ever happened on assets [03:57]
bones6 Autism only arrived after we stopped beating our children. QED [03:58]
mircea_popescu ^ [03:58]
nubbins` no kidding, everybody's blood is running hot now [03:58]
nubbins` herb even told us to shut the fuck up because he's been there man and we haven't [03:58]
mircea_popescu you know what autism figures were in romania at the time the aids figures were 0.0x% [03:58]
nubbins` 100%? [03:58]
mircea_popescu on the grounds of all the aids kids being starved to death in specialised institutions ? [03:58]
mircea_popescu about 0.0% cause everyone was affraid of reporting it. [03:58]
nubbins` ah, cool. how did that work out for romania? [03:59]
mircea_popescu also at the time romania ruled the gymnastics at the olympics [03:59]
mircea_popescu because 15 yo girls and beating. [03:59]
nubbins` oh. so pretty well, then [03:59]
mircea_popescu i can't complain :) [03:59]
nubbins` so this heavy-handed beating-or-else thing really worked out for you guys [03:59]
nubbins` there wasn't any social upheaval or anything in the meantime? [03:59]
nubbins` OH WAIT [04:00]
mircea_popescu hehehe [04:00]
mircea_popescu wait, you're going to tell me that the romanian revolution was over free access to drugs ? [04:00]
mircea_popescu here's a fun little tidbit : in 1991 they had no cop on the force that knew what pot smells like. [04:00]
* herbijudlestoids rolls his eyes and detaches screen [04:00]
nubbins` no, i'm going to tell you it was over I HAVE THE ANSWERS STFU OR BANG [04:00]
mircea_popescu think about that for a moment. [04:00]
dub herbijudlestoids: have been, indeed, no. [04:01]
mircea_popescu dub what'd you junkie on ? [04:01]
dub meth [04:01]
mircea_popescu what srsly ?! [04:01]
nubbins` yucky [04:01]
mircea_popescu why... [04:01]
nubbins` because people do things [04:02]
mircea_popescu "well one day i noticed my house was kinda dirty..." [04:02]
mircea_popescu nubbins` let me guess, they experiment right ? [04:02]
nubbins` sure, yeah. sometimes with drugs, sometimes with things that end up being bitcoin [04:03]
nubbins` experimenting is what people do [04:03]
nubbins` like your friend who milked a squirrel [04:03]
mircea_popescu bang [04:03]
mircea_popescu ;;bang [04:03]
gribble Error: "bang" is not a valid command. [04:03]
benkay ;;lasers [04:03]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [04:03]
nubbins` ;;lasers [04:03]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [04:03]
nubbins` aw [04:03]
mircea_popescu nono [04:03]
moiety lolol [04:03]
KRS-One freakin lasers, maaan [04:03]
mircea_popescu ;;roulette [04:03]
gribble *click* [04:03]
nubbins` ;;sharks [04:03]
gribble Error: "sharks" is not a valid command. [04:03]
mircea_popescu ;;roulette [04:03]
gribble *BANG* Hey, who put a blank in here?! [04:03]
* gribble reloads and spins the chambers. [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00085209 = 5.1125 BTC [+] [04:03]
mircea_popescu there we go. [04:04]
nubbins` gribs got real [04:04]
* moiety claps [04:04]
moiety lol i like gribble [04:04]
KRS-One ozbot is better [04:04]
KRS-One .bait [04:04]
benkay ;;gettrust moiety [04:04]
mircea_popescu ;;echo and gribble likes you [04:04]
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gribble and gribble likes you [04:04]
KRS-One Ozbot? [04:04]
mircea_popescu moiety bitch, get in the wot. [04:04]
nubbins` so i'm thinking about the fact that the cops didn't know what pot smelled like [04:04]
moiety i dont ever plan on trading or anthing though [04:04]
nubbins` and the conclusion i've reached is that everybody must have been pretty fucking uptight [04:05]
KRS-One ;;seen ozbot [04:05]
gribble ozbot was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours and 31 seconds ago: Gold medal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [04:05]
KRS-One fap fap fap [04:05]
jurov ;;slap KRS-One [04:06]
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nubbins` heh. [04:06]
nubbins` not bad [04:06]
B0g4r7__ balus benkay bettyclamp bgupta BigBitz BingoBoingo blg bones6 bounce btcinmypocket Bunnyh bwq [04:06]
mircea_popescu moiety best be prepared. [04:06]
benkay ah hey i caught my first negrating, y'all [04:07]
mircea_popescu nubbins` everyone still is pretty uptight. [04:07]
benkay guess i'm a big boy now [04:07]
nubbins` ;;ratingsystem getrating benkay [04:07]
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herbijudlestoids so when i left the house yesterday afternoon, the GH on coinminer.net pool for ATC was ~40. when i got home, ~100. today, ~200 [04:07]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, maybe they should have a safe pot smoking site [04:07]
mircea_popescu but to not let the revolution issue hanging : there were arguably a few explanatory reasons [04:07]
nubbins` Insmoke or something [04:07]
moiety mircea_popescu: was just reading up, i'm all for anything to do with gpg [04:07]
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mircea_popescu in the 70s they made contraception illegal. the births jumped then over a decade levelled off to the original values. the life of women turned into a nightmare tho. those kids... they pretty much WERE the revolution. [04:08]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: oh sure, i just figured since we were handwaving away complex issues with flippant, facile replies... [04:08]
diametric asciilifeform: i convinced johnny russell to accept bitcoin on ultimachine.com. [04:08]
dub was gonna mine some ATC but my asic blowed up [04:08]
mircea_popescu in the 80s ceausescu got pissed off at the us bankers, paid off all romania's debt. this resulted in horrible restraints on consume market. [04:08]
dub someone musta went bang on it [04:08]
the20year in romania? [04:08]
mircea_popescu people put up with it till the debt was paid, in 88. at that point no relaxation showed up and peeps were enraged [04:08]
nubbins` no doubt [04:08]
mircea_popescu finally, the language was deteriorating under the pressure of bureaucratic formalism. [04:08]
mircea_popescu this may be a cultural explanation. [04:08]
mircea_popescu that's about the set, really. [04:09]
nubbins` like we said, it's harder to change gears once you get going [04:09]
nubbins` be it dropping social welfare or easing restraints on the consumer market [04:09]
mircea_popescu perhaps. [04:09]
nubbins` hey, you saw it happen [04:10]
nubbins` now consider what would happen in canada if tomorrow welfare was 100% abolished [04:10]
mircea_popescu but you can't in any shape or form successfully argue that the current english cultural space anti-intellectualism, anti-voluntarism and deliberate depersonalisation has any sort of future. [04:10]
nubbins` the average canadian doesn't want a revolution [04:10]
dub its ok, romainia has heavy duty 6 puck soviet era ventilated clutch [04:10]
nubbins` no, i can't argle that [04:10]
nubbins` argue, either! [04:10]
mircea_popescu well that's where we'll have to settle. [04:10]
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mircea_popescu i'll concede going around beating people isn't a winning strategy [04:11]
nubbins` i'll concede that i'd just as soon kill the pillheads in my neighbourhood [04:11]
mircea_popescu nor something that could ever be done. you couldn't pay me to do it. [04:11]
mircea_popescu you can't even fucking troll this dumbass chan ffs. half hour later people start hugging and conceding things [04:12]
nubbins` hah [04:12]
mircea_popescu it' [04:12]
mircea_popescu s like a fucking utopian society. [04:12]
nubbins` you were a few facile statements away from me asking if you were on the spectrum ;p [04:12]
mircea_popescu what spectrum ? [04:12]
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nubbins` ;;ud on the spectrum [04:13]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=On%20the%20spectrum | Oct 19, 2013 ... On the spectrum. A phrase used to describe a person with social tics and/or awkwardness usually associated with autism or asperger's ... [04:13]
mircea_popescu haha [04:13]
nubbins` it's a phrase here :D [04:13]
mircea_popescu i dunno, i guess i gotta be on the spectrum [04:13]
mircea_popescu it is, after all, a spectrum. [04:13]
nubbins` nod [04:13]
nubbins` we all are, i'm sure [04:13]
mircea_popescu i'm the black or w/e [04:13]
dub you the whitest nigger I ever dun see [04:14]
mircea_popescu i'm not white [04:14]
mircea_popescu i'm just priviledged. [04:14]
nubbins` anyway, full circle, synesthesia has been reported in both lsd users and autistics [04:14]
mircea_popescu nubbins` and artists. [04:14]
nubbins` most of the artists fall into one camp or the other [04:15]
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dub is that the audio hallucanatoin jonx? [04:15]
mircea_popescu no they don't stop pushing your druggie agenda. [04:15]
* nubbins` passes out reefers [04:15]
nubbins` JOIN US [04:15]
mircea_popescu dub it's when a chick thinks she can smell your cock because it tastes so good. [04:15]
nubbins` MUSIC SOUNDS BETTER [04:15]
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mircea_popescu or no wait. [04:15]
nubbins` dub, shit like tasting colors or hearing smells [04:15]
mircea_popescu it's when a chick thinks she can smell your cock because it hits her in the back of the throat so nice [04:16]
nubbins` if chicks can smell your cock you've got a problem [04:16]
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dub I read about a deaf woman who released an album of her audible hallucinations oslt [04:16]
mircea_popescu nubbins` "thinks" [04:16]
nubbins` aha! [04:16]
nubbins` subtle [04:16]
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dub http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruef7aYCEbc [04:16]
ozbot Smell Yo Dick (Official Video) - YouTube [04:16]
dub ^related [04:16]
duduqa hi there [04:16]
nubbins` dub, auditory hallucinations are strange things indeed [04:16]
mircea_popescu besides, cocks actually do smell i'm told. [04:16]
mircea_popescu duduqa ello [04:16]
nubbins` i once smashed a radio that wasn't turned on [04:17]
nubbins` "...oh" [04:17]
duduqa mircea_popescu: hello! [04:17]
mircea_popescu clearly reefer has no ill effects [04:17]
benkay i once worked for a gentleman who when voices were raised above a certain threshold in meetings would visibly lose his ability to read his monitor [04:17]
nubbins` if reefer caused hallucinations i'd smoke it more often [04:17]
mircea_popescu benkay so like a dog ? other dogs barking, can't focus nomoar. [04:17]
moiety auditory hallucinations are much more common than visual hallucinations. more uncommon than both, are tactile ones [04:18]
mircea_popescu dub not bad actually. who's the chick ? [04:18]
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nubbins` moiety: lies, i mistakenly think i've pissed myself maybe once every two weeks on average [04:18]
benkay he claimed a degree of constant synasthesia. was also pretty thoroughly autistic. the story was that he couldn't see his screen when voices got loud. [04:18]
mircea_popescu that's just bad childhood memories nubbins` [04:18]
benkay so yes, distracted. [04:18]
dub the deaf one or the smell yo dick one? (i have nfi eather way) [04:18]
mircea_popescu the latter. [04:18]
moiety is this after a massive amount of alcohol nubbins`? [04:20]
nubbins` usually if i've smoked a lot of pot, not always [04:20]
nubbins` i don't drink much [04:20]
moiety thats not halluincatory in a true sense though [04:21]
nubbins` fun story, before the early 2000s there was no recreational drug that was active at the same dosage range as lsd. you bought some paper, it was the real thing or nothing at all [04:21]
moiety its more a perception thing [04:21]
nubbins` moiety, nod [04:21]
mircea_popescu indeed. [04:21]
nubbins` then this class of drugs called NBOMe was discovered [04:21]
nubbins` which were active at very small doses, enough to fit on a blotter [04:21]
mircea_popescu aka "National Board of Osteopathic Medical Examiners" [04:21]
nubbins` all of a sudden lsd started tasting oddly bitter [04:21]
nubbins` and the trips were strange [04:22]
moiety what exactly are microdots then? [04:22]
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nubbins` teeny tiny caplets, i think [04:22]
nubbins` still lsd, just in a different vessel [04:22]
KRS-One someone told me he microdosed LSD for a while and wound up speaking perfect german almost as if you can learn great things by separation [04:22]
moiety like super string lsd i was under the impression? [04:22]
moiety strong* [04:22]
moiety kk [04:22]
nubbins` KRS-One, i've had legitimate epiphanies on lsd [04:23]
benkay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE5YOVCahcQ [04:23]
ozbot Tosh.0 'Smell Yo Dick' Official Music Video - YouTube [04:23]
nubbins` ANYWAY [04:23]
nubbins` this bitter not-acid was the only thing you could buy for a long time [04:23]
moiety KRS-One: there's a guy in hospital here on a permanent trip, since he was 21 or so... a bad trip. poor guy is tortured and has no insight at all [04:23]
nubbins` it was only when the derpy pirate roberts opened his Ye Old Shoppe that the real deal once again became available [04:23]
moiety people have woken from comas speaking different languages [04:24]
duduqa moiety: wat? [04:24]
moiety people have been known to wake from coma being able to speak languages they weren;t able to before. [04:25]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: you have a very weird perception of the drug market [04:25]
moiety i'd assume these were people in coma in countries other than their native language [04:25]
herbijudlestoids 5-MeO-AMT was common on blotter before the discovery of 25i-NBOMe [04:26]
nubbins` herbijudlestoids: i live on an island, what do you expect? [04:26]
herbijudlestoids and the resurgence in LSD has *nothing* to do with the silk road. [04:26]
herbijudlestoids any relationship you noticed is coincidental [04:26]
nubbins` hm, i didn't realize AMT was orally active. has admittedly been a while [04:26]
benkay there's real lsd going around again? [04:26]
benkay i gave up on finding any. [04:26]
benkay i actually gave up on ever trying real lsd. [04:26]
nubbins` benkay: there always was, just didn't make it quite as far around [04:26]
nubbins` after those two guys in the missile silo got busted, i thought i'd never see it again [04:27]
benkay i suppose i coulda found some at burning man but its kinda impolite to walk up to strangers saying "hi i've never actually found real acid and i'm hoping to find some this week can you introduce me to someone?" [04:27]
mircea_popescu "25I-NBOMe has been implicated in multiple deaths in Australia. In March 2012, a man in Australia died from injuries sustained by running into trees and power poles while intoxicated by 25I-NBOMe." [04:27]
mircea_popescu derp. anyone got the vid ? [04:27]
nubbins` NBOMe is no fun [04:27]
mircea_popescu A Sydney teenager jumped to his death on June 5, 2013. He reportedly jumped off a balcony thinking he could fly. [04:28]
mircea_popescu well.... you can do anything. [04:28]
nubbins` i dunno about this whole "thinking he could fly" shit [04:28]
benkay friends tossed him over. told a story. [04:28]
nubbins` ^ [04:29]
nubbins` i've been pretty fucking high in my time, never thought i could fly [04:29]
nubbins` that's not even sensible [04:30]
mircea_popescu i think i can fly with regularity [04:30]
mircea_popescu usually happens right after boarding. [04:30]
nubbins` and eating lots of bran [04:31]
nubbins` anyone? no? [04:31]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: i realistically doubt you could objectively identify a single dose of 25I-NBOMe from LSD [04:32]
herbijudlestoids its only at 2 dose or above you can start to notice the difference [04:33]
dub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura is fairly famous trip for mkaing peopel think they can fly [04:33]
ozbot Datura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [04:33]
nubbins` herbijudlestoids: you can tell by the taste. NBOMe is intensely bitter. [04:33]
nubbins` you can tell from a half-hit [04:33]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: whats that got to do with "fun" [04:33]
nubbins` oh, we're talking experience? [04:33]
herbijudlestoids dub: datura is a plant. are you referring to the tropane alkaloids contained within? [04:33]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you know not all peope can taste all bitters [04:33]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: you said its not fun. i said you wouldnt know if i fed it to you [04:33]
mircea_popescu of which there are at least a few hundred [04:33]
nubbins` NBOME is much less visual, and is punctuated by these sporadic moments of clarity [04:33]
herbijudlestoids lel [04:34]
nubbins` like you're at the bar having a good time [04:34]
herbijudlestoids no offense nubbins` but your subjective analysis of what NBOMe "is", doesnt count for anything [04:34]
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nubbins` all of a sudden "why the fuck do i feel so sketchy? why are we all moving our bodies like this?" [04:34]
nubbins` no offense yourself, but just because you can't tell two completely different drugs apart doesn't mean i can't [04:35]
dub herbijudlestoids: I suppose your anaylsis of a what a 'dose' is is sound though [04:35]
herbijudlestoids dub: i work it out on approximate basis from drug seizures, so yea [04:35]
herbijudlestoids used to be easier when the DEA had their microgram report [04:35]
mircea_popescu he;s got a numeric method :D [04:35]
nubbins` HEH. [04:35]
nubbins` the other point about silk road is that there were this group of guys called "the avengers" who would buy LSD from new vendors and get it tested in a lab for strength [04:36]
nubbins` and publish the results [04:36]
mircea_popescu so how many sample results did they ever publish ? [04:36]
nubbins` dozens [04:36]
mircea_popescu over a few years ? [04:36]
mircea_popescu dude that place sucked srsly. [04:36]
* nubbins` shrugs [04:37]
herbijudlestoids http://www.justice.gov/dea/pr/micrograms.shtml [04:37]
nubbins` there weren't that many different lsd vendors [04:37]
ozbot DEA / Micrograms [04:37]
mircea_popescu but anyway, props to them, nice going. [04:37]
herbijudlestoids go here for real data [04:37]
mircea_popescu where'd they measure it ? [04:37]
dub lol [04:37]
nubbins` maybe four or five [04:37]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, that's what i always wondered [04:37]
dub internet experts [04:37]
mircea_popescu they never said ?! [04:37]
nubbins` not the sort of thing you can just bring somewhere [04:37]
mircea_popescu yes, it is. [04:37]
nubbins` they had access to some sort of lab [04:37]
nubbins` heh. [04:37]
mircea_popescu wtf, they never said where they measure and you trusted the results /?! [04:37]
nubbins` i bring LSD to the uni, i'll expect a knock on my door [04:37]
mircea_popescu how do you know it wasn't just sr sponsored bs ? [04:38]
herbijudlestoids errr nubbins` yes it is [04:38]
benkay oh man i used to read microgram bulletin religiously [04:38]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: errr no... [04:38]
nubbins` dude i don't fucking know, find the thread yourself! it's all there on the forums [04:38]
mircea_popescu im too lazy [04:38]
herbijudlestoids its like $80 to get any sample tested by HPLC [04:38]
nubbins` me too [04:38]
herbijudlestoids guess what, until its been HPLCd, you can claim ignorance as to the substance [04:38]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids would you trust the reported results of anon third parties that won't share where they measure ? [04:38]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: no. [04:38]
nubbins` and they'll tell you how many micrograms of lsd are in your tab? [04:38]
mircea_popescu makes 2. [04:38]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: its an approximation, but yes. [04:39]
mircea_popescu nubbins` most labs in the civilised world will test a sample. [04:39]
nubbins` well i guess that's how the avengers did it then, isn't it? [04:39]
* nubbins` shakes head [04:39]
nubbins` everything is a fight! [04:39]
mircea_popescu if they actually did anything. [04:39]
herbijudlestoids you can just say youre a concerned mother who found something in their childs schoolbag and want to test it [04:39]
dub nubbins`: no o it isnt, fuck you [04:39]
herbijudlestoids i know, because i have [04:39]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids you claimed to be a woman ? [04:39]
mircea_popescu with whig or sans whig ? [04:39]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: its not a fight until you claim something that is obviously not a fact (for people who know) as a fact [04:40]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: sans wig, over mail :) [04:40]
dub stand back guys he has dones this before [04:40]
mircea_popescu so mail fraud. [04:40]
nubbins` dub, herb is apparently a wizard [04:40]
herbijudlestoids iv listened to you guys spouting all kinds of dumb shit today [04:40]
nubbins` poor guy [04:40]
nubbins` want a back rub? [04:40]
herbijudlestoids id prefer you just verified things before spoutingthem as fact [04:41]
nubbins` i'd prefer if you fucked off [04:41]
nubbins` guess we're both not getting what we want [04:41]
herbijudlestoids k, enjoy your ignorance [04:41]
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nubbins` what a tool [04:41]
mircea_popescu i can't believe someone took that seriously. [04:41]
dub this guy was taking shrapnel in khe sanh when you were crapping inyour hands and rubbing it in your face [04:42]
dub aww he raged [04:42]
nubbins` he was taking shrapnel last week? [04:42]
nubbins` no wonder he's so mad [04:42]
mircea_popescu nubbins` seriously tho, it's way more likely the avenger troop was just some vendor/ the sr itself doing pr. [04:43]
dub I thought we talked about bath salts [04:43]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: could be. they did out some frauds tho [04:43]
mircea_popescu did the frauds confess ? [04:43]
nubbins` they vanished [04:43]
mircea_popescu sr would be in a position to see complaints. [04:43]
nubbins` well, the review system worked pretty well too [04:43]
nubbins` "lsd was bunk, do not buy" [04:43]
nubbins` or "nice mild effects" left as a review for 5-MeO-DMT [04:44]
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nubbins` there's actually very few lsd manufacturers left, both due to risk and availability of precursors [04:45]
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mircea_popescu moiety hey, nice. [04:45]
nubbins` generally your end product is coming from a handful of sources [04:45]
nubbins` a few vendors actually sold pure crystal [04:46]
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nubbins` that was pretty rare tho [04:46]
nubbins` "By the time Silk Road shut down, The Avengers had reviewed 60 vendors, rating them on factors like packaging quality, shipping time, and price." [04:48]
nubbins` afaik the forums are gone forever, and with them, all those reviews [04:48]
mircea_popescu maybe it was some kid with a night shift at a lab or something. [04:48]
nubbins` could be. was a nice service [04:49]
mircea_popescu tho, you familiar with the recent mass scandal are you ? [04:49]
nubbins` don't think so [04:49]
mircea_popescu forensic chemist was discovered to have lied on thousands of reports [04:49]
mircea_popescu they ended up having to review ~10k cases [04:49]
nubbins` aha! yipes. [04:49]
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nubbins` http://c.o0bc.com/rf/image_609w/Boston/2011-2020/2012/09/29/Boston.com/Metro/Images/State%20Police%20Lab%20Shutdown.JPEG-0be0e.jpg [04:50]
nubbins` she obviously didn't spend all her extra free time buying clothes [04:50]
benkay great way to get out of us jury duty: "i don't accept p-values greater than 0.001, and also I don't trust forensic 'scientists'" [04:50]
mircea_popescu you won't get excused. [04:51]
benkay oh but i did [04:51]
nubbins` heh. [04:51]
mircea_popescu what srsly ?! [04:51]
benkay mhm [04:51]
mircea_popescu you found a judge that knew what p is ? [04:51]
benkay effectively "I will break this jury" [04:51]
nubbins` i was an alternate juror once, didn't quite make the cut [04:51]
mircea_popescu where the fuck. [04:51]
benkay nope. voir dire. [04:51]
benkay voire dire? [04:51]
nubbins` voir [04:51]
benkay the preselection where the lawyers kick everyone out who has an inkling of intelligence. [04:52]
nubbins` yeah [04:52]
mircea_popescu well then you got kicked not excused [04:52]
nubbins` i made it past that point [04:52]
mircea_popescu that i made no representation of. [04:52]
nubbins` it was some domestic abuse trial, most of the female jurors got the boot [04:52]
nubbins` i'm a large angry man, i got to stay [04:52]
benkay ya well see above "great way to get out of" [04:52]
mircea_popescu that i saw. [04:53]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` how are you large [04:53]
dub I managed to do somethign to get unpicked at the benkay stage [04:53]
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dub quite surprised to have been summoned tbh [04:53]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: 188cm, 100kg! [04:53]
nubbins` i'm not medium [04:54]
mircea_popescu o okay. [04:54]
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mircea_popescu i never got jurydutied, but i was once in the team kicking you ppl off [04:54]
diametric in maryland atheists aren't allowed to serve on juries. [04:55]
mircea_popescu not sure how well known this is, but esp in the larger trials the jury selection team of a well funded defender may include > 100 people [04:55]
dub I was easy [04:55]
nubbins` diametric WHAT [04:55]
diametric i mean i guess if i wanted to serve it would be easy to fight [04:55]
nubbins` HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH [04:55]
dub 'you have how many convictions?' [04:55]
nubbins` WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN [04:55]
mircea_popescu nubbins` won't swear on the bible [04:56]
dub it means don't go to america [04:56]
dub ever. [04:56]
nubbins` you're not given the option to take a "solemn oath"? [04:56]
dub best case, nuke it from orbit [04:56]
mircea_popescu dub just accept gizas already in your heart dubsy [04:56]
moiety ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:c9f70550bfb1f08e79daa780040970b356f24d938d2411e7d4a9b059 [04:56]
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diametric nubbins`: Article 36 of the Maryland Declaration of Rights says I have to believe in God: "nor shall any person, otherwise competent, be deemed incompetent as a witness, or juror, on account of his religious belief; provided, he believes in the existence of God, and that under His dispensation such person will be held morally accountable for his acts, and be rewarded or punished therefore either in this world [04:56]
diametric or in the world to come."" [04:56]
nubbins` when we dragged our dirtbag ex-tenants to a hearing, the only ones who lied through their teeth were the ones who swore on a bible rather than doing an affirmation [04:57]
moiety o/ think that's me on WoT mircea_popescu! [04:57]
mircea_popescu wd wd! [04:57]
* moiety beams [04:57]
mircea_popescu smart girl. [04:57]
nubbins` diametric: to me, that says something other than what you said. [04:57]
mircea_popescu http://static.tumblr.com/af06dd0807d256dc1dec8abe12cd8f1b/oghd6vg/FBSmgqgxn/tumblr_static_chocolate_chip_cookies.jpeg [04:58]
mircea_popescu there's a cookie. [04:58]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` how ?! [04:58]
nubbins` diametric: that seems to say that you can't be deemed incompetent for believing in god [04:58]
mircea_popescu you misread. [04:58]
nubbins` nor shall any person be deemed incompetent on account of religious belief, provided he believes in god [04:58]
diametric no it clearly states I'm only competent to serve so long as I believe in God [04:58]
dub you missed the provided [04:58]
mircea_popescu won't be deemed incompetent for his religious belief if and only if he believes in god [04:58]
moiety woah thats a way better cookie than all these sites usually try to give me..... [04:58]
nubbins` that's saying you can call a pastafarian retarded [04:59]
nubbins` not that you have to swear on a bible. [04:59]
mircea_popescu a pastafarian is retarded [04:59]
diametric Article 37 also prevents me from holding office [04:59]
diametric ""That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God;"" [04:59]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: nah, they're just having a lel [04:59]
mircea_popescu diametric did you want to hold mariland office ?! [04:59]
diametric mircea_popescu: fuck no [04:59]
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mircea_popescu i was thinking... wait, THAT is what prevents you ? [04:59]
diametric haha [04:59]
mircea_popescu lol [05:00]
the20year hmm , i imagine falling during snowboarding and then breaking your helmet isn't good [05:00]
nubbins` the20year: saw that [05:00]
dub no automagically bad [05:00]
nubbins` that was a HARD fall [05:00]
nubbins` backwards downhill [05:00]
the20year Yeah [05:01]
nubbins` the entire womens event was much less exciting than the mens [05:01]
the20year I wonder if they show the same stuff at the same time in canada, i know here it's all recorded [05:01]
nubbins` biggest rotation was a 1080! [05:01]
the20year Always is [05:01]
nubbins` i watched it hours ago on the internet [05:01]
the20year Remember , in china one woman got a comparable score to a man and they all said it was a conspiracy [05:01]
the20year I'd looove to see them do mixed gender sports [05:02]
nubbins` nah, would be no fun [05:02]
the20year Would prove a point to the sexists that women and men are differnet :D [05:02]
nubbins` i don't know if even the hardcore feminists believe that women and men perform equally well in sports [05:03]
the20year i've talked to quite a few who seem to think that [05:03]
mircea_popescu the20year women and men aren't different iyo ?! [05:03]
nubbins` did you tell them that testosterone builds muscle? [05:03]
the20year They refused it [05:03]
nubbins` i uh [05:03]
nubbins` well then [05:03]
the20year Look at how many women want women in combat operations in the US [05:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5919 @ 0.00085209 = 5.0435 BTC [+] [05:03]
mircea_popescu again with what people want. [05:04]
the20year The marines refuse to change their testing methods, army was sued to the point of compliance [05:04]
nubbins` sure, but the US military is spread thinner than the butter on bilbo's bread [05:04]
nubbins` they almost have to take women [05:04]
nubbins` or else start a draft [05:04]
mircea_popescu lol ayup. [05:04]
the20year Not really, as it stands now they can scale enlistment if they play with iring bonuses [05:04]
the20year *hiring [05:04]
mircea_popescu "why turn down pretty much the only people who still WANT to be in" [05:04]
mircea_popescu yeah, budget just got cut for the nth consecutive year. [05:04]
nubbins` "joining the military gave me the opportunities to get raped and belittled that i've been missing my entire life" [05:05]
mircea_popescu nubbins` nine in ten gangbang participants are there voluntarily. [05:05]
dub don't discount the free mobility scooter you get a the end [05:05]
mircea_popescu it's free now ?! [05:05]
nubbins` "free" [05:05]
mircea_popescu aok [05:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 41 @ 0.0055 = 0.2255 BTC [05:05]
nubbins` with the purchase of a one-way flight to kandahar [05:06]
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mircea_popescu ;;tslb [05:07]
gribble Time since last block: 13 minutes and 52 seconds [05:07]
nubbins` http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/14/4828448/silk-road-lsd-avengers-drug-inspectors [05:07]
nubbins` there's your answer [05:07]
nubbins` http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3387971/reagent_560.jpg [05:07]
nubbins` lel, the reagent pouch says "contains strong acid" [05:08]
the20year Gonna get some video Tuesday of some fantastic properties in central Ohio [05:08]
nubbins` there's a joke in there [05:08]
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benkay "fantastic" "central ohio" [05:09]
benkay sounds like a good chuckle to me. [05:09]
nubbins` i meant the image i posted [05:09]
benkay i know ;) [05:09]
nubbins` but that too, i guess [05:09]
the20year it was kind of a joke [05:09]
the20year I've got 3 candidates i'm gonna go take a look at, highest one is priced at $34k [05:10]
nubbins` from what i understand about america [05:10]
benkay coming out of the btc you've raised? [05:10]
nubbins` you can name any place and people will tell you it sucks [05:10]
nubbins` "oh, the midwest? gross" [05:10]
the20year if any of them are good candidates, maybe [05:10]
benkay how much rentalstarter have you sold through your ipo, the20year? [05:10]
nubbins` "the south? jeez" [05:10]
the20year As of now a little shy of $100k in fiat [05:10]
nubbins` "virginias? ugh" [05:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33550 @ 0.00085508 = 28.6879 BTC [+] {2} [05:10]
benkay ;;calc 100000/700 [05:11]
gribble 142.857142857 [05:11]
benkay dang man [05:11]
benkay ponzi.io pulled in more than that in the fifteen minutes it was running [05:11]
the20year I was pretty surprised at how much $$$ they were pulling in [05:11]
nubbins` ;;google .io tld [05:11]
gribble .io - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; NIC.IO - The Indian Ocean .IO Domain Registry and Network ...: ; Register .IO Domain: Buy TLD Extension/Suffix British Indian Ocean ...: [05:11]
nubbins` interesting [05:11]
nubbins` ;;later tell truffles i wanted to play chess but you weren't here [05:12]
gribble The operation succeeded. [05:12]
nubbins` ^ muahahaha [05:12]
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mircea_popescu benkay he could have pulled in just as much if he bought his own stock the same way. [05:19]
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nubbins` http://betanomics.asia/blog/store-and-send-bitcoin-directly-from-your-brain-using-braincontrol [05:20]
mircea_popescu !t h rent [05:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (4547 shares, 25.00850000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (24033 shares, 132.18150000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (24033 shares, 132.18150000 BTC) [05:20]
mircea_popescu 25 btc != 100k usd are they ? [05:20]
mircea_popescu o wait, it's been a week [05:20]
ozbot Betanomics.asia - Storing and Sending Bitcoins Directly from Your Brain using BrainControl.me [05:21]
nubbins` ^ almost sent some dust to try looking for the usual holes, realized i can't be bothered [05:21]
copumpkin selling 25 btc for $100k, any takers? [05:23]
copumpkin these are some high quality coins I'm offering [05:24]
nubbins` hong kong dollars, errrrr...? [05:24]
copumpkin nah, USD [05:24]
nubbins` gross, do not hold [05:24]
benkay ;;ticker --market [05:24]
gribble (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market |all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Mtgox. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure the code (1 more message) [05:24]
copumpkin oh well, no high-quality coins for you then [05:24]
benkay ;;ticker --market btcavg [05:24]
gribble BitcoinAverage BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 696.36, Best ask: 701.5, Bid-ask spread: 5.14000, Last trade: 700.81, 24 hour volume: 57173.56, 24 hour low: None, 24 hour high: None, 24 hour vwap: 688.31 [05:24]
dub zimbabwe dollars [05:24]
benkay ;;calc 696.36*132.1815 [05:25]
gribble 92045.90934 [05:25]
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dub so gox.. [05:25]
dub end game or end game [05:26]
copumpkin benkay: there's also a market sell/buy command [05:26]
the20year I don't know what 25btc is over that time period, we're around 140btc [05:26]
benkay ;;market sell [05:26]
gribble (market sell [--usd] [--market ] ) -- Calculate the effect on the market depth of a market sell order of bitcoins. If is provided, uses that exchange. Default is mtgox. If '--usd' option is given, denotes the size of the order in USD. [05:26]
benkay ;;market sell 130 [05:27]
gribble A market order to sell 130 bitcoins right now would net 88784.0021 USD and would take the last price down to 680.0200 USD, resulting in an average price of 682.9539 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0708 seconds [05:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 10 @ 0.06914002 = 0.6914 BTC [-] {4} [05:27]
nubbins` so what i'm going to do is find my laptop charger, pour a bowl of cereal, and listen to bad brains [05:27]
the20year Coinbase price right now is 724/brc [05:27]
the20year *btc [05:27]
benkay coinbase? [05:28]
benkay what the fuck does that have to do with anything? [05:28]
benkay and also good luck getting that price. [05:28]
the20year It should be no less than 720 [05:28]
mircea_popescu they actually buy from you at 724 ? [05:28]
the20year Right around there [05:29]
the20year let me see what their price would be [05:29]
diametric mircea_popescu: they do [05:29]
diametric its also locked at time of purchase/sale. I'd be worried about holding your coins in coinbase though. [05:29]
the20year I try to avoid holding anything substantial in there [05:29]
mircea_popescu historically they're very waffly with actually delivering at the price but hey. [05:29]
nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvQBu7Xu2Jk [05:30]
ozbot BAD BRAINS - Black Dots 1978 [FULL ALBUM] - YouTube [05:30]
the20year I've sold around 600btc with them [05:30]
the20year err, no , it'd be more around 900 [05:30]
diametric mircea_popescu: theres the occasional report of orders canceled during a "high" [05:30]
mircea_popescu or low as tyhe case may be [05:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.123 = 0.246 BTC [-] {2} [05:31]
the20year ‏‎50btc sold via coinabse would be 35,995.50 [05:31]
nubbins` re: this "braincontrol.me" / "coinpunk" stuff [05:31]
nubbins` great that they're trying to get btc on iphones [05:31]
diametric selling 50btc on coinbase will almost certainly be reported to the IRS, and also likely cause a SAR to be filed by your bank. [05:32]
nubbins` but i'm not blindly trusting some random html5 website, for eternity [05:32]
the20year Your point? [05:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.12233333 = 0.367 BTC [-] {3} [05:32]
the20year The money is reported to the IRS anyway [05:32]
benkay nubbins`: the point with coinpunk is to run a web wallet for your friends. [05:32]
nubbins` wait, what? [05:32]
benkay not to be industrial-grade wallet for the masses. [05:33]
nubbins` did i 100% misunderstand [05:33]
benkay yup. [05:33]
nubbins` D: [05:33]
* nubbins` revisits [05:33]
benkay it's a zero-trust self hosted thing [05:33]
mircea_popescu diametric the guy is in the business of buying up real estate and renting it out [05:33]
mircea_popescu i'd expect he has paperwork in order [05:33]
nubbins` ohhhhh. [05:33]
nubbins` coinpunk.org vs coinpunk.com [05:33]
diametric mircea_popescu: i would hope so [05:33]
benkay more than happy to forward any comments on security/threat model to kyle [05:33]
nubbins` sort of like wordpress.org/.com [05:33]
nubbins` now i see [05:33]
benkay something like that, sure [05:34]
nubbins` wait, are .org and .com even the same outfit? [05:34]
diametric no [05:35]
mircea_popescu benkay who's kyle [05:35]
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nubbins` hah [05:35]
nubbins` WELL THEN [05:35]
nubbins` nicely diluted brand [05:35]
benkay it's impossible to tell, but i'll check with him sometime. [05:35]
benkay kyledrake [05:36]
benkay aka Kyle Drake [05:36]
nubbins` .com looks less legit [05:36]
diametric nubbins`: i mis-read i thought you were asking about the registry level. [05:36]
diametric nubbins`: like literally .org and .com [05:36]
nubbins` oh [05:36]
nubbins` heh [05:36]
nubbins` no, coinpunk.org / coinpunk.com [05:36]
benkay mircea_popescu: http://kyledrake.net/ [05:36]
nubbins` starting to think .com is scamming [05:36]
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benkay that is a downside to the model - unless you actually know the server operator they can deliver anything they want to your browser. [05:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.122 BTC [-] [05:37]
nubbins` nod [05:37]
nubbins` at least with brainwallet.org etc you can host the files locally [05:38]
benkay but this is similar to the web wallet threat model anyways - don't trust strangers with your bitcoins. [05:38]
nubbins` no such option on a phone [05:38]
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mircea_popescu ic [05:38]
nubbins` man, i gotta say [05:39]
nubbins` bad brains is a fucking great band [05:39]
nubbins` kind of amazing that the most intense hardcore punk band i can think of is four black guys who started doing it in the 70s [05:41]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:41]
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BingoBoingo nubbins`: Who needs a phone when IRC is a thing? [05:52]
nubbins` humans :( [05:53]
moiety BingoBoingo: i have been gpg-ing. mircea told me to get my arse on wot. so there i am! didn't even bug him for help [05:54]
BingoBoingo moiety: Congrats. Think how far ahead you would have been should you have tried this when it was first suggested? [05:54]
* moiety was hoping you wouldn't mention that [05:55]
moiety 2015: i might try an order [05:55]
mod6 its easy, there is a wiki for gribble :) [05:56]
BingoBoingo Eh, prolly look at the order book and see if there are any you can fill in the next month or two. I mean moiety, Your key could have been 5, 6, 7 months older. [05:56]
moiety i wish everything was command line [05:57]
moiety true BingoBoingo i'm not in any kind of rush mind you [05:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.072 = 0.288 BTC [+] {3} [05:58]
moiety happy reading, observing, drinking in atm [05:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.19376446 = 1.9376 BTC [+] [06:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.0725 = 0.2175 BTC [+] {2} [06:00]
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joecool how's it going? [06:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.073 = 0.219 BTC [+] {2} [06:01]
nubbins` i'm going to bed [06:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 16 @ 0.07345 = 1.1752 BTC [+] {4} [06:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.1215 = 0.3645 BTC [-] [06:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 3 @ 0.19376446 = 0.5813 BTC [+] [06:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 330 @ 0.00300012 = 0.99 BTC [-] {3} [06:04]
nubbins` nitey nite [06:04]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you didn';t use the magic word [06:06]
BingoBoingo Prolly [06:07]
mircea_popescu joecool pretty cool [06:07]
mircea_popescu moiety so, would you like some atc ? [06:07]
BingoBoingo Should have said sudo [06:07]
joecool mircea_popescu: nubbins` was talking about romanians in OTC so i thought of you [06:08]
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mircea_popescu haha [06:08]
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joecool not too many other romanians online actually say useful things [06:08]
mircea_popescu was he saying bad things ? [06:08]
joecool no he was talking of some other romanian [06:09]
mircea_popescu wait there's other romanians online ?! [06:09]
joecool that's what i thought [06:09]
mircea_popescu what heresy is this [06:09]
joecool i always assumed they were too busy chasing chickens to come online (i have tried this pastime, it was exciting for an afternoon) [06:10]
mircea_popescu full disclosure : when i was about 5 my uncle told me that ducks absolutely have to be serviced by having their tail turned with a fixed wrench [06:11]
mircea_popescu or else they may die [06:11]
mircea_popescu and so i spent half a day chasing ducks with a fixed wrench [06:11]
joecool seems legit [06:12]
joecool does romania have a tourism agency? [06:12]
mircea_popescu uh [06:12]
mircea_popescu what's that ? like a travel agent ? [06:12]
joecool hm maybe not the correct word, a government PR campaign [06:12]
mircea_popescu a. prolly. [06:12]
joecool "come to romania, our ducks are the best to chase" [06:13]
mircea_popescu ;;google campanie vizitati romania [06:13]
gribble "WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER?" Răspunsul Gândul la campania ...: ; PENNY Market Romania: ; Mirela Stelea sustine campania Romania, tara inimilor mari - YouTube: [06:13]
mircea_popescu there. [06:13]
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benkay hey joecool [06:16]
joecool hey? [06:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13300 @ 0.00085379 = 11.3554 BTC [-] [06:23]
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KRS-One http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/bitcoin-price-drops-as-mt-gox-exchange-closes-indefinitely-20140210-32ap1.html [06:33]
BingoBoingo KRS-One: Should be interesting to see how shit settles with their fractional reserve out of the picture. [06:34]
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KRS-One interesting yep [06:35]
benkay BingoBoingo: total shitshow impending. "oh, bitcoins on sale you say? mt gox fell apart and bitcoin is still around? guess i better throw ten US shitbucks into it" waits three weeks "well damn now i need a return on my bitcoins" BS&T v.2 [06:35]
KRS-One now a good time to short? [06:35]
benkay KRS-One, BingoBoingo: when gox actually folds, do you think there'll be a significant leg down? [06:36]
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BingoBoingo KRS-One: Good time to probably go long 6-12 months. Gox dying prolly removes a bunch of fake BTC and fake dollars. It will take time to figure out what there was more of. [06:36]
BingoBoingo benkay: The thing about shitshows is that it is best to watch the cripple fight and wait to act. [06:38]
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joecool imma take the blame for mtgox falling apparent [06:39]
joecool *apart [06:39]
joecool spread some FUD a couple nights ago and it started a run, then they ceased withdrawals [06:40]
joecool exposed: mtgox the bucket shop [06:40]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-most-serene-republic-and-its-laws/ [06:45]
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benkay mircea_popescu you're just cheating now [06:50]
mircea_popescu a man using his father's sword is not cheating. he is my father, i use which is mine. [06:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21117 @ 0.00085512 = 18.0576 BTC [+] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28050 @ 0.00085692 = 24.0366 BTC [+] {2} [07:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00085363 = 14.7678 BTC [-] {2} [07:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.0735 = 0.294 BTC [+] [07:15]
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copumpkin all MPOE transactions are fairly large [07:19]
copumpkin I'd expect to see more "dust" [07:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63463 @ 0.00085697 = 54.3859 BTC [+] {2} [07:34]
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copumpkin see? large transactions! [07:36]
copumpkin where'd nefario go? [07:36]
BingoBoingo copumpkin: Prolly went to Panama [07:37]
copumpkin where'd my >0.001 MPOE go, anyway [07:38]
copumpkin give it back [07:38]
copumpkin man, once MPOE goes above 1 btc/share, I'll be rich [07:38]
copumpkin if not as rich as mircea_popescu [07:38]
copumpkin I can't wait [07:38]
copumpkin then I can give my bentley back to him [07:39]
mircea_popescu what's this bentley you keep speaking of lol [07:39]
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copumpkin oh you know [07:40]
copumpkin just my car [07:40]
copumpkin okay fine, fine, I lied [07:40]
mircea_popescu i had no idea you drived [07:40]
copumpkin I don't own a bentley (or any car) [07:40]
copumpkin and I didn't steal any money from you [07:40]
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copumpkin gah, such a stickler for details [07:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1650 @ 0.00020195 = 0.3332 BTC [-] [07:51]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [18:55]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:53 2013 [18:55]
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diametric lol mtgox "its bitcoins fault" [18:57]
mircea_popescu who's weeklyglobalresearch.wordpress.com ? [18:58]
d34th darkee daybyter deadweasel deego deizel dexX7 DiabloD3 diametric Dimsler_ donpillou dub [18:58]
mircea_popescu diametric let me guess, rettardit ? [18:58]
ThickAsThieves mtgoxit [18:58]
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chsados-work has anyone been able to withdrawl btc from btc-e yet? [18:59]
ThickAsThieves they have issues too? [18:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.24028439 BTC to 1`293 shares, 95923 satoshi per share [18:59]
mircea_popescu the funny thing is, of course, that [18:59]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291274.msg3118741#msg3118741 [18:59]
ozbot Hey Activeminers? You won't make your investment back. [19:00]
punkman btc-e goxed themselves too? [19:00]
mircea_popescu punkman they're being run upon. [19:00]
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ThickAsThieves i have some altcoins there, that's about it [19:01]
mircea_popescu chsados-work very few people here actually traded there, afaik. but they seem to be having some sort of problem [19:01]
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ThickAsThieves CoinDesk Removes Mt. Gox from Bitcoin Price Index [19:04]
ThickAsThieves it's happening! [19:04]
mircea_popescu ah this is so sweet. [19:05]
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mircea_popescu definitely sweeter than the glbse thing. [19:06]
mike_c bitcoinaverage had a button to remove gox price from inception. can't wait for them to die, it will be better than SR dying. [19:06]
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mircea_popescu anyone know the beauty and wonder that is mincemeat pie ? [19:07]
ThickAsThieves never had it whilst a carnivore [19:07]
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mircea_popescu it's like lobster : so good it's illegal in some jurisdictions [19:08]
joecool and to think, lobster used to be poor man's food [19:09]
mircea_popescu so did this [19:10]
mircea_popescu well, technically, heretic's food [19:10]
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mircea_popescu meat and fruit is an eastern combo, seeing how they had little choice in many places : either eat the figs or eat no veggies. [19:10]
ThickAsThieves the only seabugs i ever brang myself to eat were shrimp and perriwinkles [19:11]
mircea_popescu no lobster, ssly ? [19:11]
ThickAsThieves never [19:11]
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ThickAsThieves the smell makes me not hungry [19:12]
ThickAsThieves and scallops make me ill [19:12]
ThickAsThieves just the smell [19:12]
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deadweasel roaches of the sea. i tried lobster again sicne I'm in Maine, but still, no stars, no amazing flavour, nothing. just sea cockroach meat. [19:18]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [19:18]
deadweasel marketing [19:19]
ThickAsThieves might be a taste bud, olefactory genetic thing [19:21]
ThickAsThieves also your brain is way smarter then you when it comes to cravings [19:21]
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mircea_popescu scallops are iffy in that they're really no good preserved [19:27]
mircea_popescu fresh from the hands of a greek chick i nthe water... diff story. [19:27]
mircea_popescu deadweasel that's the problem with you wisconsin goodfolk. you obviously lack some of the tastebuds [19:27]
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deadweasel actualloy, the scallops I had in greece were excellent, I forgot about those. [19:35]
deadweasel actual alloy, the most real metal of our time. [19:36]
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mircea_popescu lol [19:36]
mircea_popescu i tell you, you're having paint in painted containers and think o i don't like lobster/scallops/etc [19:36]
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mircea_popescu tis not true. [19:36]
ThickAsThieves i enjoyed the olives in Cyprus [19:36]
mircea_popescu i tried once octopus in oil in some can [19:37]
mircea_popescu i nearly lost it [19:37]
deadweasel mircea_popescu: you're probaly right. the fresh shrimp aren't so bad, but I'll always prefer a grassfed beef cow. [19:37]
mircea_popescu that thing was the most objectionable piece of well used tyre [19:37]
mircea_popescu deadweasel the difference being chiefly that you know the people who serve the prime beef, but not the others [19:37]
deadweasel ha, yes, fresh octo is excellent! spear fished some in greece at breakfast time, at them at lunch [19:38]
punkman there's this restaurant in Barcelona that only serves food out of cans [19:38]
deadweasel it's true, I get my beef from a local farmer, it's not gray, it's actually Red! [19:38]
mircea_popescu yeah. gray meat wtf is that. [19:38]
deadweasel my body says no.. tried to eat store bought bacon this weekend, one bite, pitched it all in the garbage. [19:38]
mircea_popescu punkman you mean they cook already opened cans or do you mean they offer a selection of stuff like canned tennis balls etc ? [19:39]
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punkman no mostly just open it, dump it on a plate and serve [19:39]
mircea_popescu deadweasel "oh, beef is horrible, tastes like bugs to me" derp [19:39]
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punkman the canned goods sections in Spanish supermarkets are huge, they just love the stuff [19:40]
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mircea_popescu some stuff is actually better canned [19:40]
deadweasel lol, i see what you did there. [19:40]
mircea_popescu corned beef say [19:40]
deadweasel ^ nom [19:40]
benkay ;;lasers [19:41]
gribble ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [19:41]
punkman fish in sauce in a can always tastes awful for me [19:41]
mircea_popescu jesus god [19:41]
mircea_popescu lol i just had this idea for a short. typical airline interior, superhot stewardess, seamed stockings [19:42]
mircea_popescu suddenly she opens the hatch, pulls out a fishing cane [19:42]
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mircea_popescu casts in the ocean [19:42]
mircea_popescu gotta prepare the lunch... [19:42]
mircea_popescu prolly decent ad for some airline somewhere [19:43]
punkman deadweasel, catching an octopus is just a great way to start the day [19:43]
mircea_popescu http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086034/ [19:43]
ozbot Octopussy (1983) - IMDb [19:43]
mircea_popescu ^ great way to end the day [19:43]
punkman I'm gonna make some octopus stew tomorrow, maybe blog the recipe [19:44]
mircea_popescu you got a blog ? [19:45]
punkman not a recent one [19:46]
punkman but I gotta start writing again, maybe recipes will get me in the mood [19:46]
mircea_popescu a [19:46]
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mircea_popescu also there are a bunch of terrines which you pretty much prefer canned... [19:51]
mircea_popescu and there's all the various caviar etc. [19:52]
mircea_popescu i guess you could run quite a kickass restaurant on cans only [19:52]
punkman mircea_popescu: they got pretty good reviews, http://www.yelp.com/biz/quimet-and-quimet-barcelona [19:52]
jcpham thankfully mtgox is here to save us from this whole bitcoin fuckup [19:53]
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mircea_popescu lol [19:53]
mircea_popescu just like last time right ? [19:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 64 @ 0.0055 = 0.352 BTC [19:53]
jcpham good 'ol bestgox to save the day [19:53]
mircea_popescu "Carrer del Poeta Cabanyes, 25" [19:53]
mircea_popescu dude that's a fucking address. why can't i have an address like that. [19:53]
mircea_popescu "i live at 19, the career of the herpyderp poet". sounds like it's from the adventures of knownot [19:54]
joecool "i live in a cardboard box down the street next to the guy who lives in a shoe" [19:55]
joecool etc [19:55]
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joecool US census still has a "draw a picture of your address" section [19:55]
mircea_popescu (nikolai nosov book, neznaika) [19:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00019262 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {3} [19:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 273 @ 0.0055 = 1.5015 BTC [19:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.19376446 = 0.9688 BTC [+] [19:58]
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mircea_popescu okay, the first to name a 90 year old blind general that took part in actual field hostilities gets 1000 ALTs [20:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20300 @ 0.00085747 = 17.4066 BTC [-] [20:14]
kakobrekla mark karpeles [20:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.19376446 = 3.8753 BTC [+] [20:16]
mircea_popescu haha [20:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00085997 = 22.4452 BTC [+] {2} [20:20]
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Mats_cd03 'murican robert lee? [20:25]
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ThickAsThieves William "Billy" Guste Jr. [20:25]
ThickAsThieves wait he wasnt blind [20:26]
ThickAsThieves lol [20:26]
ThickAsThieves was trying to find an old attorney general [20:26]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbNmL6hSNKw#t=22 [20:33]
ozbot Fish on Wheels - YouTube [20:33]
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mike_c find/replace with 13,000 hits: sublime text ran for 15 minutes before i killed it. sed took < 1 second. [20:35]
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punkman mice_c, old age and treachery [20:41]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.sigmalive.com/inbusiness/news/services/99911 [20:42]
wao-ender mike_c: do it in haskell! [20:44]
mike_c sed is probably written in haskell. much speed. [20:44]
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mod6 mircea_popescu: was it Enrico Dandolo? [20:49]
mod6 From the 4th Crusade? [20:49]
ThickAsThieves http://www.philenews.com/el-gr/oikonomia-kypros/146/184665/apantisi-tou-ds-tis-etaireias-neo-anaforika-me-anakoinosi-tis-kentrikis-trapezas [20:50]
Mats_cd03 yeah thats it [20:50]
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Mats_cd03 now mod6 can retire to a private island [20:55]
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punkman ThickAsThieves: they aren't saying much, http://www.centralbank.gov.cy/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=13239 [20:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 24 @ 0.0055 = 0.132 BTC [20:58]
mircea_popescu mod6 wd! [21:00]
mircea_popescu post an addy will you [21:00]
mod6 o/ ty, Sir. [21:00]
mod6 Sure thing [21:00]
mod6 1G34X8K9LYsZMn4dQ4e7HFe5V127zV6Ln6 [21:01]
kakobrekla just keep it at pankakaes wallet [21:01]
kakobrekla bah [21:01]
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mircea_popescu 1G34X8K9LYsZMn4dQ4e7HFe5V127zV6Ln6 pankkake pls to pay 1k atc [21:01]
mod6 tyvm :D [21:01]
mircea_popescu this was fun. [21:01]
mod6 *nod* [21:01]
nubbins` mincemeat pie [21:01]
nubbins` closest i've had is shepherd's pie, which i suspect is not the same at all [21:01]
nubbins` mince pies have pastry tops, yes? [21:01]
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kakobrekla if everyone uses pankake we dont even need blockchain at all [21:02]
kakobrekla that would be a real revolution i saa [21:02]
kakobrekla say [21:02]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yep [21:02]
mircea_popescu the rape of the pankkake ? [21:02]
kakobrekla save on hashpower and hdds [21:02]
mike_c a centralized altcoin. there's an innovation for you. [21:02]
mike_c the blockchain is log.bitcoin-assets.com [21:03]
nubbins` speaking of seafood [21:03]
nubbins` cuttlefish jerky was big in korea [21:03]
nubbins` i developed a fondness for it [21:03]
nubbins` served with hot mayonnaise, natch [21:03]
kakobrekla lol true dat mike [21:04]
kakobrekla might have to shut it down now! [21:04]
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mjr_ so... [21:07]
mjr_ is gox finally dead [21:07]
mjr_ ? [21:07]
kakobrekla yeah they self killed themselfs [21:08]
nubbins` ehh, it's been dead for a while. still coughs up blood every now and again tho [21:08]
kakobrekla its been dead yea, bit people want to belie [21:09]
kakobrekla believe [21:09]
kakobrekla dammit, but people want to believe, is what i meant to say [21:10]
nubbins` heh [21:10]
nubbins` bit people do as well [21:10]
deadweasel pankkakechain [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00544001 = 0.1034 BTC [-] [21:11]
deadweasel sounds like a sex act of dubious value [21:12]
mircea_popescu ehh, it's been dead for a while. still coughs up blood every now and again tho << [21:14]
mircea_popescu you should see the fucktarded "press". [21:14]
mircea_popescu "bitcoin defaults" [21:14]
deadweasel lol at comment: This is surprising. [21:15]
deadweasel So a guy who calls himself "Magical Tux" and describes himself as "PHP Developer working on some weird stuff, like a mail server (POP3/IMAP4/SMTP) written in PHP" was not able to build a reliable worldwide exchange? [21:15]
nubbins` HEH [21:16]
nubbins` "weird stuff" [21:16]
Duffer1 http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/176341-mt-gox-tries-to-pin-its-own-incompetence-on-bitcoin-bug [21:16]
ozbot Mt. Gox tries to pin its own incompetence on Bitcoin bug | ExtremeTech [21:16]
Duffer1 hurray for extremetech [21:16]
asciilifeform so 'gox == btc' is still being farted out by Fucktard Press [21:16]
deadweasel !b1 [21:16]
deadweasel fuckit [21:16]
deadweasel ;;fuckit [21:16]
gribble Error: "fuckit" is not a valid command. [21:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform will be for a while [21:16]
nubbins` Fucktard Press, Inc. [21:17]
mircea_popescu glbse = finance had been the rallying cry of the walking dead all through 2012 [21:17]
asciilifeform prediction: a 'new, exciting' replacement, similar to gox circa 2012, will be inserted in its place [21:17]
asciilifeform once Fucktard Finance, Inc. cranks one out [21:17]
nubbins` a division of Fucktard Global [21:18]
mircea_popescu no wai, yo uthink ?! [21:18]
asciilifeform can't wait to see what other 'bugs' in the protocol 'must be fixed!' before 'our children and the homeland are safe' [21:19]
asciilifeform puzzle: why is gox not involved with alt-scams? i thought this was 'mandatory' for Fucktard Finance Inc. now. [21:20]
deadweasel did they ever implement litcoin?? Their saying they 'might' is involvment with altscams. [21:21]
diametric they did not [21:21]
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mike_c hehe. fucktard press quotes could be as good as coinion. "bitcoin fatal flaw: transactions can't be reversed" [21:22]
mike_c http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/11/once-you-use-bitcoin-you-cant-go-back-and-that-irreversibility-is-its-fatal-flaw/ [21:22]
Duffer1 lol [21:22]
ozbot Once You Use Bitcoin You Can't Go 'Back' — And That's Its Fatal Flaw | Wired Opinion | Wired.com [21:22]
asciilifeform it is quite odd that gox never rolled out 'goxcoin' [21:22]
diametric At least some people seem to see through mtgox's bullshit [21:22]
nubbins` asciilifeform, i groan at the number of exchanges that support altscams [21:23]
kakobrekla http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/suicide-bomber-kills-suicide-bomers [21:23]
ozbot Suicide Bomber Instructor Blows Up Suicide Bombers-In-Training [21:23]
nubbins` "hey a new canadian exchange! great!" [21:23]
nubbins` "...oh, they support doge" [21:23]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [21:23]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [21:23]
mircea_popescu mike_c they been running that shit since about 2012 [21:23]
mircea_popescu something awful's talking points. [21:24]
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mircea_popescu diametric from the get-go the entire scamset (mtgox and bfl and pirate and etc) were working together under the guise of the foundation thing. [21:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the 'bitcoin magazine' gang? [21:25]
mircea_popescu not particularly accidental that they vouched for the bfl scam, not happenstance that they still are covering for vessenes' frauds [21:25]
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nubbins` i tell ya, the time is ripe for the Bitcoin Authority to rear its head [21:25]
mircea_popescu not coincidental that they're trying to cover for gox now. [21:25]
nubbins` shrem, karpopopopopolel, etc [21:25]
mircea_popescu and not at all unrelated to how we just ain't friends. [21:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform myea. [21:25]
asciilifeform if these folks had half a brain, they'd be pushing the 'altscam to rule them all' about now. [21:26]
mircea_popescu now and again i take one of their guys, send him flying through three sheets of frozen glass, distribute the photos. it's really a lot of fun. [21:26]
asciilifeform complete with master keys (bonus if hidden), artificial infusions of fiat to pump up 'value', collaboration with governments... [21:27]
jurov who tf names their company coinsulting? [21:27]
mircea_popescu jurov ahaha they done got your nigger.txt one better [21:27]
nubbins` co-insulting [21:27]
jurov just got borderline lulzy spam from them [21:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform they be kids. [21:27]
jurov Our firm Coinsulting Ltd. is first Crypto consulting agency specializing on compliance services for Bitcoin businesses. We advise our clients how to do their business legally all around the world. On March 22nd 2014, we are organizing a Bitcoin event in Shanghai, China called BTCrisis conference. [21:27]
asciilifeform 'expertSexchange' [21:27]
nubbins` heh [21:27]
mircea_popescu jurov conveniently omitting to name any of those clients which they advised [21:28]
nubbins` i dunno [21:28]
nubbins` http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/gox-screen.jpg [21:28]
mircea_popescu was it what, bitfunder ? mtgox ? coinwhateveritwas ? [21:28]
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nubbins` you trust a guy who sits on one of those, you deserve what you get [21:28]
mircea_popescu nubbins` when you're fat and you dork with computers a lot your lower back suffers. [21:28]
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nubbins` sure, so stand up [21:29]
nubbins` you can tell he's forced the other guy to sit on one, too [21:29]
asciilifeform that rubber ball isn't a medical cure, it's a 'silicon valley' fucktard inc. 'dog whistle' signal. [21:29]
nubbins` "take a seat" [21:29]
jurov If you are interested in becoming a Coinsultant, this is a right time for you. Coinsulting family is growing same as Crypto Currencies do. In case you consider yourself being the right one, please send us your CV at careers@coinsulting.net [21:29]
nubbins` balls everywhere [21:29]
jurov hahahahaha [21:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it forces you to constantly adjust your vertical. it helps. [21:30]
asciilifeform wonder if andreesen horowitz (or whoever) actually issues those balls... [21:30]
mircea_popescu they probably have an approved brand [21:30]
asciilifeform i imagine it came out of somewhere quasi-rational, sure. but it seems to have this other purpose now, as well. [21:30]
jurov prolly i'll advise to rename themselves to coinslutants [21:30]
benkay sitting on a ball isn't going to fix the health problem of being obese. [21:31]
nubbins` ^ [21:31]
nubbins` heh [21:31]
wao-ender coinsluts, right. [21:31]
nubbins` how he'll die young with good posture [21:31]
benkay fuckin priorities do you got 'em? [21:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no argument, more dogwhistle than anything by now [21:31]
benkay FUKKEN PRIORITIES!!!@1! [21:31]
mircea_popescu benkay i never fucked Priorities, no. is she hawt ? [21:31]
nubbins` hot, but always busy [21:32]
mircea_popescu mwh. [21:32]
asciilifeform eventually the ball will go out of fashion, and they will move to those treadmill-plus-laptop gadgets or somesuch. [21:32]
KRS1 .bait [21:32]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6gk192gIf1qdwh13o1_500.jpg [21:32]
KRS1 I think I've seen all of these...moar plz. [21:32]
asciilifeform any 'teledildonics' experts here? what's the state-of-the-art in exercise-powered diddling machines [21:33]
nubbins` ;;ud mwh [21:33]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=MWH+yo | ... home Nolifing WoW. mark as favorite buy nolifing mugs & shirts · computer games 1337 video speak by MWH yo January 31, 2009 add a video add an image ... [21:33]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: Author MWH yo [21:33]
nubbins` asciilifeform, using a laptop on a treadmill is brutal [21:33]
asciilifeform nubbins`: could be made to work. 'chording keyboard' in the handlebars. [21:34]
nubbins` there ya go [21:34]
kakobrekla and move mouse with your dick [21:35]
nubbins` the whole "laptop tray across the bars" thing doesn't work [21:35]
nubbins` no arm support [21:35]
nubbins` bad for your neck too [21:35]
mircea_popescu nubbins` but what if you were solidly anchored in a 9 inch solid steel [21:35]
mircea_popescu buttplug ? [21:35]
asciilifeform ocular in place of laptop screen. [21:35]
nubbins` then you better not stop walking :D [21:36]
mircea_popescu could even have the error ding as a vibration [21:36]
benkay i want my display on one six-axis arm, and my kb on another. then i want the controller to optimize positioning of kb and monitor indpendently to optimize my posture. [21:36]
benkay and i want this thing to follow me everywhere. [21:36]
mircea_popescu and i want to shoot benkay [21:36]
benkay outta mah FACE [21:36]
mircea_popescu shot shot [21:36]
mircea_popescu in da butt [21:36]
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benkay go home mircea_popescu you're drunk [21:36]
mircea_popescu drunk@home [21:37]
mircea_popescu should be a tumblr [21:37]
nubbins` distributed drinking [21:37]
pankkake http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2014#495235 looks like everything he uses turns out to be a scam [21:38]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [21:38]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/canadian-shot-in-dominican-republic-as-manitoba-students-watch-1.2519822 [21:38]
ozbot Canadian shot in Dominican Republic as Manitoba students watch - Manitoba - CBC News [21:38]
pankkake also, ATC sent to mod6 [21:39]
nubbins` guy gets shot NINE TIMES while cracking heads [21:39]
the20year3 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Apo1scQacB7XdHd3UVh5MlhtUU1DY1ZlUEVDNG04d0E&usp=sharing [21:39]
ozbot Google Drive [21:39]
mircea_popescu pankkake some peeps are lucky like that [21:40]
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mircea_popescu you can usually recognise them by how they rant @mpoe-pr [21:40]
mircea_popescu and ty. [21:40]
mod6 thx pankkake! [21:41]
pankkake http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2014/02/10/why-mtgox-is-full-of-shit/ [21:41]
ozbot Why Mt. Gox is full of shit - joepie91's Ramblings [21:41]
pankkake interesting, blaming Bitcoin, like bitfunder [21:41]
mircea_popescu derp. [21:42]
asciilifeform the otherwise-inconsequential 'tx id' shenanigans: is that how satoshidice was pwned? [21:42]
mircea_popescu inb4 karpeles comes out in march with a "well we can't say anything but not even bitfunder said anything yet so" [21:42]
asciilifeform (if i recall, they fed their PRNG tx id for a seed) [21:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform was sd pwned ? [21:42]
the20year3 Who's running a scam? [21:42]
asciilifeform pwned in the sense of certain people taking home astronomically-improbable winnings [21:43]
nubbins` the20year3, almost everyone [21:43]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, you're right [21:43]
mircea_popescu not quite afaik [21:43]
the20year3 is this TAT's fund or someone else's? [21:43]
mircea_popescu the20year3 follow the link eh. it's some greg guy on the forum [21:43]
wao-ender v0v, so, gox is out of business by delisting from price trackers, imma right? [21:44]
diametric gox will live on as people trade non-existent bitcoins internal to their platform. [21:45]
mircea_popescu wao-ender end of the road for them yea [21:45]
mircea_popescu in a sense they had been slowly being decoupled from btc economy since april 2013. [21:45]
wao-ender end of line (c) Tron. [21:45]
mircea_popescu it was well managed in that the eventual final shock surprised/shocked no one [21:45]
asciilifeform they'll simply 'repay' their chumps in 'goxcoin', as soon as mr. k gets gcc working on his box. [21:45]
wao-ender yeah, also I was well played, controlled implosion. [21:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform can you even compile gcc in php ? [21:46]
asciilifeform they'll use that online 'alcoin generator', as soon as it gets a '100% premined' ticky-box in the menu. [21:46]
Dimsler_ karples that fat fucking nerd [21:47]
Dimsler_ can't way till hes out of the fucking picture [21:47]
asciilifeform 'ponzigen.com' ? [21:47]
asciilifeform or, for the techno-trendiness points, 'mkponzi' [21:47]
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asciilifeform for extra fee, will pump (and dump) automagically... [21:49]
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wao-ender these guys http://cryptortrust.com/ looks like scam to me. Do someone know them? [21:49]
mircea_popescu nop [21:50]
twizt wao-ender: [21:50]
pankkake Cryptor Trust Inc. ‘s <- can't use correct typography, scam [21:50]
twizt do u trust ur own financial advisor [21:51]
twizt ? [21:51]
jurov in coinslutants we trust [21:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.047 = 0.658 BTC [-] [21:55]
benkay in sluts we trust. [21:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.04897954 = 0.2939 BTC [+] {2} [21:56]
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ThickAsThieves is this TAT's fund or someone else's? ---- it was referring to Dr Greg [22:00]
deadweasel ;;getrating slut-trust [22:00]
gribble Use the gettrust command instead. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Relying_on_the_rating [22:00]
ThickAsThieves i'm no longer destitute [22:01]
ThickAsThieves i haz ATCs [22:01]
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deadweasel not destitute, prostitute [22:02]
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ThickAsThieves "The only way to quickly buy bitcoins requires cash: a consuming, hastle-prone step." how you know an article is garbage [22:02]
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pankkake ;;ud slut [22:03]
pankkake uh. [22:03]
pankkake well it would have shown "a woman with the morals of a man" [22:03]
ThickAsThieves "Even at a 10 billion dollar market cap — the peak achieved by Beanie Babies in 1999 — bitcoin is almost irrelevant in financial terms." [22:03]
pankkake "Someone who provides a very needed service for the community" [22:03]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves who's that ? [22:04]
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ThickAsThieves Wired [22:05]
mircea_popescu i need a name. [22:05]
ThickAsThieves sec [22:05]
mircea_popescu for my little black book. [22:05]
asciilifeform pederasts.txt ? [22:05]
pankkake you might want to do a whilelist instead [22:05]
ThickAsThieves @NCWeaver [22:06]
mircea_popescu nicholas Weaver [22:06]
mircea_popescu pankkake but i don't. [22:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, just preparing the workrolls for the uranium mines of the future. [22:06]
ThickAsThieves wot does that [22:06]
mircea_popescu kiddos born in the "you can do anything" utopia have little idea just how much impact deeds and misdeeds actually have on their own future. [22:06]
asciilifeform aha. plenty of yellow mud left at Butugichag for these folks. [22:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 140 @ 0.00298729 = 0.4182 BTC [+] {3} [22:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 16 @ 0.02501001 = 0.4002 BTC [-] {3} [22:07]
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benkay yikes. [22:09]
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the20year3 I haven't read much on dr greg [22:11]
ThickAsThieves he says a lot of words when he talk [22:11]
ThickAsThieves s [22:11]
ThickAsThieves he's probably Deprived when sober [22:11]
the20year3 In my brother's short 15 minute conversation with DHL ,the rep/head sure did seem to understand the massive benefit to acceptance [22:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13513 @ 0.00086072 = 11.6309 BTC [+] [22:12]
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mircea_popescu generally it's not that they don't understand the benefits of acceptance. [22:13]
moiety evenin' [22:14]
mircea_popescu generally it's that they don't understand the benefits of submission [22:14]
mircea_popescu they can't put up with the notion that much smarter, much better people are there to lead them, so they end up with issues such as starting alt coins, [22:14]
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mircea_popescu "waiting for adoption" [22:14]
mircea_popescu etc etc. [22:14]
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mircea_popescu moiety heya [22:16]
benkay o/ moiety [22:17]
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moiety how are we all and am i speaking in the correct language today? [22:19]
mircea_popescu ja je bent [22:20]
davout spreek jij ook nu nederlands heh? [22:20]
davout leuk [22:20]
mircea_popescu een beetje :D [22:21]
mike_c damn, JD investors kicking ass last few months. nov/dec/jan returns are 4%, 5.2%, 6.5% [22:21]
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mircea_popescu .jd [22:21]
pankkake !jd [22:21]
Duffer1 nokawa stop gambling? [22:21]
mircea_popescu a ok [22:21]
pankkake I think so [22:21]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 0 BTC profit, 0.0k BTC invested, 0.00 mio bets, 0.00 mio BTC wagered [22:21]
mircea_popescu derp [22:21]
mircea_popescu mike_c did it reach ev yet or notrly ? [22:21]
pankkake Doge-Dice looks even more profitable than Just-Dice though :p [22:22]
mike_c it's been tracking pretty closely last few months [22:22]
mike_c https://bitcoinproject.net/justdice.php [22:22]
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mircea_popescu arguably the jd risk is actually > mpbond risk [22:22]
mircea_popescu then again i guess arguably the reverse is true too [22:23]
mike_c hm. how would you argue that? :) [22:23]
mircea_popescu which of the two ? [22:24]
mike_c jd risk > mpbor risk [22:24]
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mike_c i know how to quantify jd risk. mpbor i'm still floundering a bit.. [22:25]
mircea_popescu jd bot takes 1% margin. mpbot takes significantly more., [22:25]
mjr_ mircea_popescu: i just saw you have a euro future, nice [22:25]
mjr_ was wondering what the index was for options now [22:25]
nubbins` i had a dream that i visited romania last night [22:25]
nubbins` very nice country, lots of red roofs [22:25]
mircea_popescu mjr_ same as always, bitcoincahrts [22:26]
mike_c that's only one piece of the risk though, volatility on mpbor is so unpredictable. [22:26]
mircea_popescu nubbins` there are. [22:26]
mjr_ mircea_popescu: does that include gox then? [22:26]
davout mircea_popescu: i'd argue it's easier to measure the risk on something random, uniformly distributed than on something chaotic [22:26]
mircea_popescu mike_c i did say "arguably" did i [22:26]
mike_c yes [22:26]
mircea_popescu davout how do you know it's uniformly distributed in the first place ? [22:26]
mircea_popescu mjr_ not anymore afaik [22:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-] [22:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] [22:27]
davout the JD rolls [22:27]
mircea_popescu yes, the jd rolls. [22:27]
davout aren't they? [22:27]
moiety Ik moet deze taal kennen. Ik ben geboren in Nederland. nokawa is the whale high roller man right? [22:27]
mircea_popescu that's not the point lol. how do you know they are ? [22:27]
mike_c but the risk on JD is all about the whales [22:27]
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mike_c and they are not uniformly distributed [22:27]
davout moiety: waar in nederland ? [22:27]
davout mircea_popescu: because of the way it's computed [22:27]
mircea_popescu what, a wizard did it ? [22:27]
mircea_popescu either show it or don't show it. [22:27]
mike_c but rolls != volatility. rolls being uniformly distributed does not mean returns will be predictable. [22:28]
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moiety davout: Julianadorp, Den Helder [22:28]
mike_c only if lots of small bettors [22:28]
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kakobrekla !jd [22:28]
assbot Just-Dice stat: 13119 BTC profit, 40.1k BTC invested, 611.46 mio bets, 4.97 mio BTC wagered [22:28]
mircea_popescu mike_c even sidestepping the whale issue. who told you that the way they compute is actually uniformly distributed ? [22:28]
mircea_popescu whoa that's awful, -70% ? [22:29]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 13119 / 49700 [22:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.119 BTC [+] [22:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] [22:29]
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mike_c the only concern for an investor would be that their computation method has an exploitable flaw [22:29]
davout what i'm trying to say is that the returns on JD are based on something random, on which you can use statistics to infer stuff, on the other hand, market prices are not random, but chaotic, hence it not being comparable [22:29]
mike_c that is greater than 1% edge. [22:29]
mjr_ still looks like mt gox is part of bitcoincharts [22:30]
mjr_ but i haven't verified it yet [22:30]
mircea_popescu davout just because something is based on something random you can't actually proclaim it uniform tho [22:30]
mircea_popescu f(x) = x + rnd(x) is based on something random and quite biased [22:30]
mjr_ its listed under USD markets... [22:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.55092307 = 7.162 BTC [-] {5} [22:30]
davout the distribution is irrelavant, what i'm saying is that there is one [22:30]
mircea_popescu ok so there is one. [22:30]
davout whereas on chaotic values there is no distribution, no mean, no standard deviation etc [22:30]
mircea_popescu >< [22:30]
mircea_popescu what are you, like new ? [22:31]
davout talk to me like i'm five, or a golden retriever for that matter [22:31]
mircea_popescu any set has a mean. [22:31]
davout any finite set has a mean [22:32]
mircea_popescu once it has a mean, any element of that set has a sdev [22:32]
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mircea_popescu what, you're proposing jd is working on infinite sets ? [22:32]
davout no, i'm saying there are fundamental differences in random values, and chaotic values [22:32]
davout s/in/between/ [22:32]
mircea_popescu such as ? [22:33]
jurov jd game will always be between 1 and 65565 [22:33]
jurov whereas bitcoin price ? [22:33]
davout them not obeying the usual laws of statistics [22:33]
mike_c yeah, but nobody cares what the rolls are, we care about investor returns. [22:33]
mircea_popescu what is this, mysticity ? [22:33]
davout hang on, gonna fish that book about chaos i read a while ago, really really interesting read [22:33]
mircea_popescu jurov but any option will be worth between itself and nothing [22:33]
mike_c it only matters if investor returns on JD are predictable. which 1) they are if there are a bunch of small bettors, 2) they are not if there are whales. [22:34]
mircea_popescu anyway. this discussion is not really resolvable, hence the arguables early on [22:35]
mircea_popescu we could talk about it 4evar [22:35]
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mike_c before we shut it down, i've been trying to figure out how mpbor capital needs are calculated. [22:35]
mike_c you confused me the other day when you said the put sales didn't trigger a capital need by mpoe [22:35]
benkay largest amount of btc needed to cover positions over the course of the month, right? [22:36]
mike_c oh, so it only triggers a capital need if the price moves adversely? [22:36]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [22:36]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [22:36]
mircea_popescu mike_c i said that ?! [22:36]
davout mircea_popescu: this guy, read it if you haven't already -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos:_Making_a_New_Science [22:36]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [22:37]
mircea_popescu benkay yes. [22:37]
mircea_popescu mike_c say wut ? [22:37]
mike_c i will fish it out of logs [22:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73750 @ 0.00085915 = 63.3623 BTC [-] {5} [22:37]
benkay chaos theory is the best theory [22:37]
nubbins` nonlinear differential equations [22:38]
davout o/ [22:38]
nubbins` did a course on them in uni [22:38]
nubbins` fun stuff [22:38]
benkay indeed indeed [22:38]
benkay fun programming exercise: make a thing that demonstrates "real" chaos [22:38]
nubbins` aha, found a casascius buyer! [22:39]
mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#479378 [22:39]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [22:39]
nubbins` these things actually turned out to be a pretty good investment [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00085677 = 32.2146 BTC [-] {3} [22:39]
mike_c mircea_popescu:nah cause they're sales see << maybe you were referring to something else [22:39]
jurov these options were covered by seller, not by mpoe [22:40]
mike_c right, but mpoe had to buy them, where did that money come from? [22:41]
nubbins` doge [22:41]
mircea_popescu mike_c yeah seriously. [22:42]
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mircea_popescu whosoever sells an option has first to create it, which takes collateral. in the case of mpbot this goes into its collateral needs for the month. [22:42]
mircea_popescu whosoever buys an option must has the btc to pay for it. in the case of mpbot this goes into its collateral needs for the month [22:43]
mircea_popescu at the end of the month the widest berth of that collateral need is taken as "the needed collatera" figure [22:43]
mike_c ok, so by purchasing those options it did trigger a capital need that bondholders will collect interest on. right? [22:44]
mircea_popescu yep [22:44]
mike_c k, thx [22:44]
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mircea_popescu Feb 04 22:05:18 !t m ^oix [22:45]
mircea_popescu Feb 04 22:05:19 ..computing... [22:45]
mircea_popescu Feb 04 22:05:19 [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 122.22370491 / 121.39535668 / 120.63410743 (14 shares, 0.61 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [22:45]
mircea_popescu Feb 04 22:05:57 nah cause they're sales see [22:45]
mircea_popescu it was in response to jurov's command. they wouldn't show in oix cause they're sales. [22:45]
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nubbins` supposing there's a month where no collateral is needed, bondholders collect no interest? [22:47]
mircea_popescu yea [22:47]
mircea_popescu just like you know, if nobody plays on jd for a month investors collect no interest [22:48]
* nubbins` nods [22:48]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2494 @ 0.00018991 = 0.4736 BTC [-] {2} [22:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.00543898 = 0.1849 BTC [-] {2} [22:51]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1228 @ 0.00018992 = 0.2332 BTC [+] {2} [22:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.02501002 = 0.1251 BTC [+] [22:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1000 @ 0.00019676 = 0.1968 BTC [+] {5} [23:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.55 = 1.1 BTC [-] [23:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.57998273 = 2.8999 BTC [+] {4} [23:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58499977 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.077 = 0.385 BTC [+] {3} [23:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.118 = 0.236 BTC [-] {2} [23:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.19376446 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.11916666 = 0.3575 BTC [+] {3} [23:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+] [23:22]
* ThickAsThieves is now known as Shakespeare [23:22]
mike_c too bad nobody seems to put on that play. watching the movie instead seems like a bad idea. [23:23]
nubbins` what play [23:24]
Shakespeare The devil hath power to assume a pleasing shape. [23:24]
mike_c merchant of venice. [23:24]
nubbins` ah [23:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.078 = 0.39 BTC [+] {3} [23:25]
Shakespeare http://www.bing.com/blogs/site_blogs/b/search/archive/2014/02/10/coinbit.aspx [23:29]
ozbot Bitcoin Conversion Now Live - Search Blog [23:29]
nubbins` was about to lel @ .aspx until i noticed the domain [23:29]
dub the fuck is bing [23:30]
nubbins` microsoft google [23:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 1 @ 0.118 BTC [-] [23:30]
dub yeah but [23:30]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [23:31]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice mike_c MiningBuddy- mircea_popescu mius mixdio [23:31]
mircea_popescu mike_c the al pacino movie is almost ok [23:31]
mircea_popescu but the play itself is great. [23:31]
nubbins` they were the first search engine to do thumbnail video previews! [23:31]
asciilifeform when do we get 'microshit coin' ? [23:32]
mircea_popescu yet there's no search engine doing gif video encoding on teh fly [23:32]
nubbins` mircea_popescu, a loss for us all [23:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform never because fuctards are more interested in "saving the world" in the shape of doing something or the other in africa [23:32]
mircea_popescu as if. [23:32]
nubbins` meantime, GIMP is capable gif creator [23:32]
Shakespeare actually [23:33]
nubbins` you append the name of each layer with a time in milliseconds [23:33]
nubbins` e.g. Layer1 (5ms) [23:33]
nubbins` save as .gif [23:33]
Shakespeare Bill Gates: "Over the next 5 years I think digital money will catch on in India and parts of Africa and help the poorest a lot." [23:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 2 @ 0.19376446 = 0.3875 BTC [+] [23:33]
mircea_popescu nubbins` http://xmodulo.com/2013/11/convert-video-animated-gif-image-linux.html [23:33]
Shakespeare The motions of his spirit are as dull as night.. [23:34]
mircea_popescu it's just two lines in an awk [23:34]
mircea_popescu but most of the world doesn't have linux cause they live in the poor world which gates helped. [23:34]
nubbins` oh hey, look [23:34]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: recall your essay on 'the cost of linux' ? [23:35]
BingoBoingo Shylock should have been the hero [23:35]
asciilifeform or was that here in the channel [23:35]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes. nevertheless, insteaf of teaching the fucktarded horde to chant "white privilege" "global warming" "feed the hungry" [23:35]
mircea_popescu you could just as well teach them to chant "ffmpeg" "awk" "youtube-dt" etc [23:36]
mircea_popescu purely arbitrary what they chant. [23:36]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo shylock was the hero. [23:36]
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mircea_popescu who do you figure the hero was, portia ? [23:36]
mircea_popescu she's just "nature" [23:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well, he lost in that travesty of fiat justice at the end [23:37]
mircea_popescu nah nah not at all. [23:37]
BingoBoingo I figured the hero was the storms that sunk the ships [23:37]
asciilifeform bonus points for anybody who can crap out a scripting language where all valid proggys are chantable. [23:37]
mircea_popescu portia ie athena points out to him that mere words without context decay into meaninglessness [23:37]
mircea_popescu "have you a surgeon ? " "tis not in the bond" [23:37]
asciilifeform (herr moldbug sort of tried this, half-heartedly) [23:37]
mircea_popescu "neither is any leverage for blood spilling on the ground" [23:37]
mircea_popescu in this she has a point, and so shylock has learned something new about contracts. [23:37]
BingoBoingo I haven't thought much about that play in about a decade [23:38]
mircea_popescu it's actually very deep [23:39]
mircea_popescu just, the ripeness of its depth is not directly observable for bitcoin noobs [23:39]
mircea_popescu which is... everyone up until 2012 or so [23:39]
mircea_popescu but otherwise... this is art, that's how you know it : you only find out later hw deep it really was. [23:39]
asciilifeform the 'eternally noobile' are almost a species unto themselves. [23:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00085547 = 2.8231 BTC [-] [23:40]
mircea_popescu bassaro and the other ghuy are mere puppets, nessie even says to her guy [23:40]
mircea_popescu "you're lucky i'm not hearing you" [23:40]
mircea_popescu i say this to my slaves all the time. [23:41]
Shakespeare maybe you'd prefer, "have your mouth fill'd up. Before you open it." [23:42]
mircea_popescu lol [23:43]
mircea_popescu words in principle are meaningless, and cultural references idem could serve both a thesis and its anti [23:45]
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mircea_popescu ("a new daniel has come!" "a daniel, thank you for teaching me a new word!") [23:46]
mircea_popescu which is why self-enforcing contracts are such ridiculous nonsense. [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.0008611 = 5.6833 BTC [+] [23:47]
jurov ;;seen namworld [23:48]
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pankkake ;;seen gribble [23:57]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/FEgSzma.gif [23:57]
deadweasel davout: read that when I was 18, changed everything. [23:59]
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