Forum logs for 10 Feb 2013
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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Namworld | eh | [00:01] |
Bugpowdr | small balls | [00:01] |
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Namworld | You said yesterday you were waiting for your spreadsheet to update? | [00:02] |
Namworld | You got an auto-updating one? | [00:02] |
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Bugpowdr | yah | [00:04] |
Bugpowdr | not the holdings | [00:04] |
Bugpowdr | the asset values | [00:04] |
Bugpowdr | =ImportHtml("mpex.co","table",2) | [00:05] |
Bugpowdr | then read off that page | [00:05] |
Bugpowdr | for example | [00:05] |
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Namworld | yeah, I've released my tools on the forum | [00:05] |
Namworld | You could even get the spreadsheet to show your options excersising price. | [00:07] |
Namworld | If not done already | [00:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00064543 = 2.7889 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9041 @ 0.00064537 = 5.8348 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9450 @ 0.00064508 = 6.096 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7288 @ 0.00064447 = 4.6969 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
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ThickAsThieves | what was MPOE dividend per share most recently? | [00:14] |
Namworld | 0.00002 I think, or near that. Almost as much as SDICE | [00:15] |
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ThickAsThieves | I couldnt quite figure it out from the prospectus | [00:16] |
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ThickAsThieves | so there are 100mil paying shares? | [00:16] |
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Bugpowdr | 500mil | [00:17] |
Namworld | 500 million? | [00:17] |
Namworld | then it's less | [00:17] |
Bugpowdr | yes | [00:17] |
Bugpowdr | its much less | [00:17] |
ThickAsThieves | it shows 2531.17 BTC total dividend last month | [00:17] |
Bugpowdr | yesh | [00:17] |
Bugpowdr | ;;calc 2531/500000000/.0006 | [00:18] |
gribble | 0.00843666666667 | [00:18] |
Bugpowdr | 0.84% | [00:18] |
Bugpowdr | Namworld: yes the options value is calculated both at mid market and as exercise in two separate columns | [00:20] |
Namworld | cool | [00:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00064447 = 8.6436 BTC [-] | [00:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6764 @ 0.00064372 = 4.3541 BTC [-] | [00:21] |
jurov | sold some CoinBr.iDiff-O for 0.07 -> diff over 7 million at March 20? | [00:22] |
jurov | time to improve their hedge on bitbet :D | [00:23] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.006 = 0.6 BTC [-] | [00:26] |
jurov | and iDiff-E (Feb 20) has spread 0.032 - 0.049 ...we've got quite a forecast now | [00:28] |
jurov | ;;bc,diff | [00:28] |
gribble | 3275464.5865656 | [00:28] |
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jurov | ;;bc,diffchange | [00:29] |
gribble | Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 2.75124889803 % based on data since last change | 2.47239535291 % based on data for last three days | [00:29] |
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jurov | Moved iDiff-E (Feb 20) lowest ask to 0.039 - only 100 available! | [00:35] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 33 @ 0.0098 = 0.3234 BTC [-] | [00:37] |
Bowjob | yawb | [00:38] |
Bowjob | hows the bear slaughter going on | [00:38] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 68 @ 0.0099 = 0.6732 BTC [+] | [00:38] |
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jurov | Yes, this is dog: http://imgur.com/a/pL5PH | [00:42] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00064374 = 5.9868 BTC [+] | [00:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1530 @ 0.00064373 = 0.9849 BTC [-] | [00:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7036 @ 0.00064372 = 4.5292 BTC [-] | [00:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1119 @ 0.00064252 = 0.719 BTC [-] | [00:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8565 @ 0.00064218 = 5.5003 BTC [-] | [00:46] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.006 BTC [-] | [01:06] |
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Namworld | 5 bonus coupons for BTC-BOND | [01:08] |
Namworld | incoming | [01:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6235 @ 0.00064218 = 4.004 BTC [-] | [01:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23617 @ 0.00064182 = 15.1579 BTC [-] | [01:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.0006392 = 9.9396 BTC [-] | [01:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18067 @ 0.00063881 = 11.5414 BTC [-] | [01:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7993 @ 0.00063719 = 5.0931 BTC [-] | [01:10] |
Bowjob | Ooh. looks like Litecoin made a nice recovery too | [01:10] |
Bowjob | O_O | [01:10] |
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Namworld | did it? | [01:12] |
galambo | there is a reward to troll somethingawful . com?? :) | [01:13] |
Bowjob | well the usd value at least | [01:13] |
Bowjob | 8 cents /ltc | [01:13] |
Bowjob | from 5.4 ltc a month ago | [01:13] |
Namworld | ah, yeah | [01:13] |
galambo | does mircea_popescu have his own irc channel :) | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | galambo drop this in -otc | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | ;;view 13393 | [01:15] |
gribble | #13393 Sat Feb 9 02:16:26 2013 mircea_popescu BUY 1.0 SA gift cert @ 0.5 BTCi | [01:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1457 @ 0.00063719 = 0.9284 BTC [-] | [01:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00063684 = 7.1645 BTC [-] | [01:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1795 @ 0.00063656 = 1.1426 BTC [-] | [01:16] |
galambo | what am i looking at here | [01:16] |
galambo | oh ok | [01:16] |
Bowjob | then troll SA? | [01:17] |
Bowjob | ;p; | [01:17] |
Bowjob | lol | [01:17] |
Bowjob | they seem to hate buttcoins | [01:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5905 @ 0.00063656 = 3.7589 BTC [-] | [01:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3893 @ 0.00063438 = 2.4696 BTC [-] | [01:18] |
Namworld | They hate everything | [01:18] |
Namworld | but their own hate. They're just dislike it, not hate. | [01:19] |
Namworld | They must be Kefkas or something | [01:20] |
Namworld | http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Kefka_Palazzo | [01:20] |
mircea_popescu | actually i suppose it's just a front. | [01:20] |
Ukto | holy crpa.. me night actually hit $30 again | [01:21] |
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jurov | me night yea | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | lol yup | [01:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60198 @ 0.00063547 = 38.254 BTC [+] | [01:24] |
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Bowjob | basically we are just taking off.. on the way to the moon! | [01:25] |
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mircea_popescu | i was thinking, remarkably enough i didnt sell that many options | [01:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P200T] 1000 @ 0.05037102 = 50.371 BTC [-] | [01:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C200T] 10 @ 0.21662797 = 2.1663 BTC [+] | [01:28] |
jurov | gone | [01:29] |
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jurov | lol http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinInvesting ... anyone dares to add first post? | [01:35] |
kakobreklaa | why dont you just put it on 4chan | [01:35] |
jurov | yes? did it work with bit4x? | [01:35] |
jurov | urlpls | [01:36] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 218 @ 0.006 = 1.308 BTC [-] | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | isuccumbed who the fuck is that ? | [01:37] |
jurov | http://satoshitemple.com/index.html "site dedicated to the infinite wisdom of Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto" | [01:41] |
jurov | Each day I will channel Satoshi's spirit and I will post his message in this page. | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | people will leech anything. | [01:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00064422 = 17.7161 BTC [+] | [01:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1542 @ 0.00063956 = 0.9862 BTC [-] | [01:49] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 13 @ 0.668 = 8.684 BTC [+] | [01:49] |
truffles | why isnt mp sleeping | [01:50] |
jurov | truffles lol | [01:50] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [+] | [01:51] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 3 @ 0.56 = 1.68 BTC [+] | [01:51] |
truffles | the subreddits are amazing | [01:51] |
truffles | there is like nudes and everything | [01:51] |
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truffles | are | [01:52] |
truffles | english is my 1st langugage... | [01:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12812 @ 0.00063956 = 8.194 BTC [-] | [01:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8338 @ 0.00063696 = 5.311 BTC [-] | [01:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00064522 = 11.2268 BTC [+] | [01:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11740 @ 0.00064745 = 7.6011 BTC [+] | [01:56] |
mircea_popescu | i don't sleep because i sustain myself consuming souls. | [01:56] |
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mircea_popescu | and on a related note, it looks like i'm getting farsi faq for mpex. | [01:56] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 448 @ 0.0061 = 2.7328 BTC [+] | [01:56] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1182 @ 0.0061 = 7.2102 BTC [+] | [01:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5400 @ 0.00063696 = 3.4396 BTC [-] | [01:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4962 @ 0.00063696 = 3.1606 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7702 @ 0.00063547 = 4.8944 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2765 @ 0.00063438 = 1.7541 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11771 @ 0.00063325 = 7.454 BTC [-] | [02:00] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.0099 = 0.2178 BTC [+] | [02:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00064745 = 3.9494 BTC [+] | [02:04] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11357 @ 0.00063325 = 7.1918 BTC [-] | [02:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2093 @ 0.00063195 = 1.3227 BTC [-] | [02:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3507 @ 0.00063195 = 2.2162 BTC [-] | [02:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00063003 = 6.3003 BTC [-] | [02:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9993 @ 0.00063002 = 6.2958 BTC [-] | [02:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00064745 = 7.122 BTC [+] | [02:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40007 @ 0.00063002 = 25.2052 BTC [-] | [02:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13412 @ 0.00062912 = 8.4378 BTC [-] | [02:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13380 @ 0.00062888 = 8.4144 BTC [-] | [02:19] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 244 @ 0.0099 = 2.4156 BTC [+] | [02:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7020 @ 0.00062888 = 4.4147 BTC [-] | [02:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00062663 = 4.2298 BTC [-] | [02:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26430 @ 0.00062071 = 16.4054 BTC [-] | [02:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 490 @ 0.00061978 = 0.3037 BTC [-] | [02:36] |
jurov | just trying new bitcoind 0.8.0rc1 | [02:37] |
jurov | i like it, after 40mins is almost fully synchronized with locally running bitcoind 0.7 | [02:37] |
jurov | and rpc calls return immediately even during this heavy activity! | [02:38] |
JWU42 | :-) | [02:38] |
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JWU42 | jurov: there a thread on getting it working -- can't recall the switches to have it load the old blockchain | [02:40] |
Bowjob | dump! dump! dump! | [02:40] |
jurov | i just moved the .bitcoin dir and copied only conf and wallet file | [02:40] |
Bowjob | dump usd and switch to btc!! | [02:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13861 @ 0.00061978 = 8.5908 BTC [-] | [02:41] |
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jurov | i enjoy it, but would prefer my s.mpoe holdings to not sink so rapidly | [02:44] |
wao | :D | [02:48] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 8 @ 0.01 = 0.08 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.01 = 0.1 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 393 @ 0.01 = 3.93 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21299 @ 0.00063037 = 13.4263 BTC [+] | [02:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00063403 = 23.3323 BTC [+] | [02:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15450 @ 0.00063926 = 9.8766 BTC [+] | [03:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00063545 = 2.4465 BTC [-] | [03:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2201 @ 0.00063501 = 1.3977 BTC [-] | [03:02] |
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jurov | sync finished... and it ran with ionice -c 3 | [03:04] |
jurov | waited for your comment.. wasn;t disappointed | [03:07] |
jurov | how many times? | [03:07] |
jurov | X X X | [03:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31910 @ 0.00063298 = 20.1984 BTC [-] | [03:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19839 @ 0.00063298 = 12.5577 BTC [-] | [03:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 461 @ 0.00064237 = 0.2961 BTC [+] | [03:14] |
Bugpowder | fuk | [03:14] |
Bugpowder | i was gonna buy that | [03:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.0061 = 0.1098 BTC [+] | [03:14] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00062742 = 4.9252 BTC [-] | [03:19] |
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ThickAsThieves | hrm, i can't make a buy order on bitfunder | [03:24] |
ThickAsThieves | it's not recoginizing my full balance, and i have no open orders | [03:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00062742 = 3.0116 BTC [-] | [03:27] |
DeadWeasel | what you gonna buy on bitfunder? | [03:28] |
jurov | ThickAsThieves, you don't have any reserves? | [03:28] |
jurov | click your balance in the upper corner and check reserves | [03:29] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8300 @ 0.00062723 = 5.206 BTC [-] | [03:36] |
ThickAsThieves | it says 0 resrved | [03:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17689 @ 0.00064237 = 11.3629 BTC [+] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00064275 = 6.5239 BTC [+] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4960 @ 0.00064286 = 3.1886 BTC [+] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2485 @ 0.00064745 = 1.6089 BTC [+] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2583 @ 0.00064962 = 1.678 BTC [+] | [03:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22133 @ 0.00064996 = 14.3856 BTC [+] | [03:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 45 @ 0.719 = 32.355 BTC [+] | [03:43] |
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Bowjob | Whoa, Havelock | [03:45] |
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DeadWeasel | ;;ticker | [03:49] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.93000, Best ask: 23.94870, Bid-ask spread: 0.01870, Last trade: 23.94870, 24 hour volume: 35935.13720042, 24 hour low: 22.58468, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.31661 | [03:49] |
DeadWeasel | jesus | [03:50] |
Bugpowder | nice | [03:50] |
Bugpowder | 3000 calls from 17-20 | [03:50] |
DeadWeasel | expectations at 24? | [03:50] |
Bugpowder | :) | [03:50] |
Bugpowder | Lets do 30 | [03:50] |
Bugpowder | I expect it to pull back 1-2 $ briefly than continue up to 27 by opex | [03:51] |
DeadWeasel | 17.42K to get to 25! | [03:51] |
Bugpowder | o? | [03:51] |
Bugpowder | that's up | [03:51] |
Bugpowder | actually | [03:51] |
DeadWeasel | sounds reasonable | [03:51] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks 30 | [03:51] |
gribble | There are currently 27737.938 bitcoins offered at or under 30.0 USD, worth 718342.093212 USD in total. | [03:51] |
Bugpowder | ;;asks 25 | [03:51] |
gribble | There are currently 17384.043 bitcoins offered at or under 25.0 USD, worth 429617.169782 USD in total. | [03:51] |
DeadWeasel | half a mil to clear 25. | [03:52] |
DeadWeasel | whale pump and dumps in action again. | [03:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00063413 = 1.7756 BTC [-] | [03:52] |
DeadWeasel | holy crap look at those sell walls go up | [03:52] |
DeadWeasel | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand there gone. | [03:52] |
DeadWeasel | they're | [03:52] |
Bugpowder | huh? | [03:53] |
Bugpowder | what did i miss/ | [03:53] |
DeadWeasel | bitcoinity.org/markets can act a little funny sometimes. | [03:53] |
DeadWeasel | nothing. | [03:53] |
DeadWeasel | they they do volume on the lower graph, asks. | [03:53] |
DeadWeasel | is funny | [03:53] |
Bugpowder | oh I see | [03:54] |
Bugpowder | someone put up a wall at 25 | [03:54] |
Bugpowder | thats why its 17k | [03:54] |
Bugpowder | probably just for the weekend till his wire cclears | [03:54] |
DeadWeasel | bitcoin is great fun. | [03:55] |
DeadWeasel | i need whiskey | [03:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00063413 = 1.5853 BTC [-] | [03:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3354 @ 0.00063741 = 2.1379 BTC [+] | [03:55] |
Bowjob | it seems to me | [04:04] |
Bowjob | that the idea behind bitcoin is.. | [04:04] |
Bowjob | pump and dont dump | [04:04] |
benkay | i'm waiting for the developing world to figure it out | [04:08] |
benkay | mkt cap ~ 2 US street corner banks atm | [04:08] |
benkay | not to mention the friction in software that keeps normal humans out | [04:08] |
benkay | fix those problems | [04:08] |
benkay | boom, to several billion. | [04:09] |
benkay | but i r idiots as my parents say regularly :( | [04:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00064003 = 0.64 BTC [+] | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4146 @ 0.00064002 = 2.6535 BTC [-] | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11988 @ 0.00063575 = 7.6214 BTC [-] | [04:12] |
mod6 | benkay: it'll be orders of magnitude more imho | [04:14] |
benkay | yeah. somewhere, right? | [04:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1390 @ 0.00063125 = 0.8774 BTC [-] | [04:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11860 @ 0.00062759 = 7.4432 BTC [-] | [04:15] |
benkay | i have this attitude that beyond more than 5 orders of magnitude it just doesn't make sense to try and be accurate. | [04:15] |
benkay | 6B? | [04:15] |
benkay | 60B? | [04:15] |
benkay | don't care. holdings will be worth something cool at that point, and i won't really be able to tell the difference. | [04:15] |
benkay | in the meantime, focus on being a better coder every day. | [04:16] |
mod6 | well, i figure with say 600-800Tn of derivatives out there divided over say 11mn... | [04:16] |
mod6 | plus some | [04:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0006276 = 0.6276 BTC [+] | [04:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3986 @ 0.00062759 = 2.5016 BTC [-] | [04:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4303 @ 0.00062205 = 2.6767 BTC [-] | [04:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15911 @ 0.00061978 = 9.8613 BTC [-] | [04:17] |
benkay | sorry, not tracking. 11 million what? | [04:18] |
mod6 | well, btc total so far. | [04:18] |
benkay | oh, and talking about all derivatives on the market? | [04:18] |
mod6 | oh i guess 10.761... or something | [04:18] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.satoshidice.com/ not loading? | [04:22] |
DeadWeasel | so I gather that all assets stabilize or go up when BTC jump in price? by virtue of .... BTC being worth more? | [04:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2785 @ 0.00062414 = 1.7382 BTC [+] | [04:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7415 @ 0.00061978 = 4.5957 BTC [-] | [04:22] |
DeadWeasel | ThickAsThieves: loads fo rme | [04:22] |
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ThickAsThieves | just hangs for me | [04:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6787 @ 0.00063233 = 4.2916 BTC [+] | [04:23] |
DeadWeasel | does it start loading? | [04:23] |
DeadWeasel | or just blank? no data? | [04:23] |
ThickAsThieves | partially loads someitmes, but without any dynamic text | [04:23] |
ThickAsThieves | same behavior in two browsers | [04:24] |
DeadWeasel | lagging pings | [04:24] |
DeadWeasel | maybe since it's in ireland. | [04:25] |
DeadWeasel | zero packet loss | [04:25] |
DeadWeasel | must be you. on wireless? | [04:25] |
DeadWeasel | somebody turned on a microwave next door. | [04:25] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe | [04:26] |
ThickAsThieves | i am on wireless | [04:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1667 @ 0.00064996 = 1.0835 BTC [+] | [04:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12650 @ 0.00065009 = 8.2236 BTC [+] | [04:27] |
ThickAsThieves | just tried a wired pc, same prob | [04:27] |
DeadWeasel | weird. | [04:27] |
DeadWeasel | ping -t satoshidice.com | [04:27] |
DeadWeasel | see if you have packet loss. | [04:27] |
ThickAsThieves | sec | [04:28] |
ThickAsThieves | whatsmydns.net shows all Xs for NS entries | [04:29] |
mod6 | don't you have to put in a ttl with -t> | [04:29] |
mod6 | ? | [04:29] |
Ukto | ThickAsThieves #bitfunder :) | [04:29] |
DeadWeasel | if you want it to stop... | [04:29] |
DeadWeasel | :) | [04:29] |
mod6 | heheh | [04:29] |
DeadWeasel | ThickAsThieves: hit CTRL + C to stop it and get results | [04:30] |
DeadWeasel | forgot to say that. | [04:30] |
ThickAsThieves | 0 loss | [04:30] |
DeadWeasel | odd | [04:30] |
DeadWeasel | that dns thing you mentioned that i just saw seems problematic too. | [04:32] |
ThickAsThieves | it finally loaded in one tab, after quite a while | [04:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7483 @ 0.00065031 = 4.8663 BTC [+] | [04:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8683 @ 0.00063401 = 5.5051 BTC [-] | [04:34] |
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DeadWeasel | I've never seen the Stochastic RSI level out there before. http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD#rg30ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zi1gStochRSIzi2gRSIzi3gCOscillatorzi4gStochRSIzv | [04:47] |
DeadWeasel | always pokes up, levels a bit, then drops again | [04:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00062002 = 6.5412 BTC [-] | [04:48] |
DeadWeasel | any idea what i could buy into that would make 10% overnight? | [04:49] |
DeadWeasel | or by wed? | [04:49] |
benkay | DeadWeasel: what does Stochastic RSI indicate? | [04:52] |
benkay | nvm, i r google | [04:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35500 @ 0.00062002 = 22.0107 BTC [-] | [04:52] |
DeadWeasel | http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:stochrsi | [04:53] |
DeadWeasel | explains in better than i could | [04:53] |
DeadWeasel | all i know is I ain't seen it like this before. | [04:54] |
DeadWeasel | that there be tha truf. | [04:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00062002 = 11.6874 BTC [-] | [05:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00062002 = 22.8787 BTC [-] | [05:04] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 192 @ 0.0062 = 1.1904 BTC [+] | [05:05] |
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Namworld | Still no one selling S.BBET at a decent price? | [05:10] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.3498 BTC [+] | [05:10] |
DeadWeasel | i don't see bbet on bitfunder. why? | [05:11] |
Bugpowder | Define decent | [05:11] |
BitHub | what's bbet? | [05:11] |
BitHub | same guys that did s.dice? | [05:11] |
Bugpowder | No | [05:11] |
BitHub | bitbet.us? | [05:11] |
Bugpowder | Mp and kakobrekla | [05:11] |
Bugpowder | Yes | [05:11] |
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BitHub | i would buy shares in that but i own bitbet.com.au and bitbet.asia | [05:12] |
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Bugpowder | Lol | [05:12] |
Bugpowder | Namworld, like I am amazed I got out of | [05:12] |
BitHub | but maybe i should buy some shares in ts.bbet | [05:12] |
Bugpowder | Bbet at an average price of 130000 | [05:13] |
Bugpowder | 2btc revenue | [05:13] |
Bugpowder | Err dividend | [05:13] |
DeadWeasel | what exchange is it available at? | [05:13] |
Bugpowder | Mpex | [05:13] |
Namworld | MPEx | [05:13] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 24 @ 0.01 = 0.24 BTC [+] | [05:13] |
Namworld | and BTCT.co | [05:13] |
DeadWeasel | i guess I should say what passthroughs offer it? | [05:13] |
Bugpowder | Namworld what do I think is a good price | [05:13] |
BitHub | will it be offered on bitfunder? | [05:13] |
Namworld | mine on BTCT.co | [05:13] |
DeadWeasel | thx namworld | [05:13] |
Namworld | I'd pay up to 0.00065000 | [05:13] |
DeadWeasel | i'll sign up. | [05:14] |
Namworld | bugpowder | [05:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.0062 BTC [+] | [05:14] |
Bugpowder | I sold down to 27000 | [05:14] |
Bugpowder | Or 30000 | [05:14] |
BitHub | i think bitfunder might offer it | [05:14] |
Bugpowder | 27000 I think | [05:14] |
Bugpowder | Have fun with that dudes | [05:14] |
Namworld | I'm buying them for the passthrough, I don't hold BBET personally | [05:14] |
DeadWeasel | That's quite a Contract on the register page, way to cover yer booty! | [05:14] |
BitHub | they said yesterday they got some announcements coming soon | [05:14] |
Namworld | I just want a few thousands | [05:15] |
BitHub | bitfunder is just easy to use | [05:15] |
BitHub | confirm bitfunder is going to offer it | [05:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11987 @ 0.00062479 = 7.4894 BTC [+] | [05:17] |
ThickAsThieves | I also like BitFunder's site | [05:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6600 @ 0.00062377 = 4.1169 BTC [-] | [05:19] |
ThickAsThieves | I know you were all wondering | [05:19] |
BitHub | i was just speaking with them, they are going to offer bbet shares | [05:19] |
BitHub | so just wait | [05:19] |
Namworld | What's the problem with BTCT.co? | [05:20] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub so what's bitbet.com.au do ? | [05:20] |
BitHub | enables you to bet on sporting events or social bets etc, at proper betting odds | [05:21] |
ThickAsThieves | No problem with BTCTco, I use it too, but aesthetically it's a little busier | [05:21] |
BitHub | our first big test is the fifa world cuo | [05:22] |
BitHub | cup | [05:22] |
BitHub | so we're just preparing for that | [05:22] |
ThickAsThieves | http://www.usabilitypost.com/2010/07/23/a-mild-case-of-borderitis/ | [05:22] |
BitHub | i may offer a bet on the australian election tho as our first test | [05:22] |
mircea_popescu | from what i see it's just a register this page ? | [05:23] |
BitHub | correct, its not live | [05:23] |
BitHub | atm | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | mkay. | [05:23] |
Bugpowder | Registration is your first mistake | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | bitcoin has 1000 developers and like 3 promoters | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | it needs exactly the reverse : like 3 devs and 1k+ promoters. | [05:23] |
BitHub | i was thinking mircea why don't more bitcoin companies just hire sales team | [05:24] |
BitHub | to promote and market bitcoin | [05:24] |
ThickAsThieves | does bitcoin foundation do outreach/mktg? | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | well, why exactly are you doing that instead of earning referals on bitbet ? | [05:24] |
Bugpowder | Security team would be better idea | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | cause you think you're too good to make money or something, i'd guess. | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | same thing goes for about everyone. just make more services, as if that's where it's at. | [05:25] |
BitHub | i had my own idea of doing a gambling site and a few weeks later i see bitbet.us pop up after i already purchased my domains | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [05:25] |
BitHub | i was just about to purchase bitbet.com but the guy pulled out of the auction | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | this is what i'm saying. everyone thinks they should develop. | [05:25] |
BitHub | i'm not a developer | [05:25] |
BitHub | i hire them | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | well then why aren't you pushing things that are already there ? | [05:25] |
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BitHub | because i want to push my own things in my own market here | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | im prolly going way too strongly at this, i don't mean you personally. | [05:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2019 @ 0.00062377 = 1.2594 BTC [-] | [05:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3031 @ 0.00062002 = 1.8793 BTC [-] | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | right. that's exactly the problem. there's 1000 people who all think they're cowboys. | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | i guess it'll take some (more) time. | [05:26] |
ThickAsThieves | mp, who pays for the marketing and promo of btc? | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves in general ? nobody really. | [05:26] |
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ThickAsThieves | mtgox? | [05:26] |
BitHub | i'm paying for my own marketing team | [05:26] |
ThickAsThieves | i mean who should | [05:26] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think anybody should. | [05:27] |
BitHub | but i will be marketing and promoting bitcoin on the side | [05:27] |
ThickAsThieves | oh | [05:27] |
ThickAsThieves | but you said it needs 1000 to 1 | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | yea, that's the other thing, everyone and his team. it's insanity. | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves take a mature market, like say porn. or books. or whatever you will. | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | out of 1000 people involved, 999 are pushing something someone else owns. | [05:27] |
mircea_popescu | that's the natural order of things. | [05:27] |
BitHub | mircea i try and help out in the community and answer as many questions as i can, i give away alot of btc donations n stuff just for fun | [05:28] |
BitHub | what more do you want out of me? | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | in bitcoin, 999 people are making new products which don't go anywhere. | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub srsly, don't take it personally | [05:28] |
ThickAsThieves | so a good example would be: | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | i don't mean it about you personally at all. | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | im just whining. | [05:28] |
ThickAsThieves | I set up a brokerage for SDICE | [05:28] |
BitHub | okey :) i know what you're saying tho because i haven't been able to get any help really | [05:28] |
ThickAsThieves | and convince peopel to buy in in meatspace | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves baby, there's already how many of those ? 4 ? 5 ? | [05:28] |
BitHub | but i do try and give back | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | why is a 6th needed ? | [05:28] |
ThickAsThieves | I mean IRL | [05:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20076 @ 0.00062002 = 12.4475 BTC [-] | [05:28] |
mircea_popescu | you mean irl ? what's that mean ? | [05:29] |
ThickAsThieves | like promote buying shares | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | okay... | [05:29] |
ThickAsThieves | i dunno | [05:29] |
mircea_popescu | what, go door to door ? wth you mean irl ? | [05:29] |
ThickAsThieves | hehe phone sales, print ads, maybe convincing rich people | [05:29] |
ThickAsThieves | i dunno | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, are you somewhere where that's even legal ? | [05:30] |
ThickAsThieves | what should these 999 peddlers peddle | [05:30] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm just trying to think of examples of how btc world might operate like porn or such | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves let's face it, ok ? all these teams are a guy with MAYBE 10k liquid to his name, a freind from school and maybe some chick either of them or both are diddling. | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | this isn't a team. this is a group of young people, enthusiasts, whatever. | [05:30] |
mircea_popescu | they aren't going to compete. bitcoin seems new, but seriously. it takes a lot more than three kids. | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | and their 10k. | [05:31] |
BitHub | got to start somewhere tho, i think the biggest problem is all the amatuers and scammers | [05:31] |
mircea_popescu | the biggest problem is that nobody wants to start small. | [05:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1713 @ 0.00062479 = 1.0703 BTC [+] | [05:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10176 @ 0.00062692 = 6.3795 BTC [+] | [05:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1484 @ 0.00063269 = 0.9389 BTC [+] | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | dumbasses make ripple. either of them spent the time to get the experience ? no THEY KNOW | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | THEY CAN | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | TJHEY DO | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | fuckall they do, thing;'s unusable. | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | colored coins, same business. | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | "they have to start somewhere" ? how about they start by working their butt off for something that's already here | [05:32] |
mircea_popescu | then they start something. | [05:32] |
BitHub | so | [05:33] |
BitHub | we should all be working for mtgox and sdice? | [05:33] |
mircea_popescu | yes. pick a service you like. i don't care what it is, but a name. | [05:33] |
mircea_popescu | push it till you make enough to live off. | [05:33] |
mircea_popescu | THEN you're in a position to know why the thing you're trying atm won't take off. | [05:33] |
mircea_popescu | and don't get pissed off at me, i'm honestly not that involved either way. | [05:34] |
mircea_popescu | but it has to be said. | [05:34] |
BitHub | i think that's a good thing about a free market, you do have alot of cowboy's and stuff but i think throught the years alot of those guys get weeded out | [05:34] |
mircea_popescu | yes, i agree it's a good thing. do you know who it;s a good thing for ? | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | me. | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | i got fuckall knows how many btc, if you kill yourself trying a project that doesn't have a chance you loose, my btc gains. | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | that's the thing. 1k kids with a dream today, 1k corpses on the metaphorical business field of battle, next year. | [05:35] |
mircea_popescu | their metaphorical blood fattening the metaphorical earth. | [05:36] |
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mircea_popescu | seems senseless to me. but then again, im just an asshole so. | [05:36] |
mircea_popescu | go ahead. | [05:36] |
BitHub | sooo, ThickAsThieves i'm thinking to send some btc to bitfunder to get it ready | [05:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00063785 = 4.146 BTC [+] | [05:36] |
ThickAsThieves | get what ready? | [05:37] |
BitHub | to buy some bbet shares | [05:37] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub these other folks think it's maybe oversold by now. they may be right. | [05:37] |
mircea_popescu | it pays 1% on referrals, if you get someone to bet 100 btc that's 1btc for you. | [05:38] |
ThickAsThieves | I'm not interested in bbet shares atm | [05:38] |
BitHub | oh must of been someone else i was talking to | [05:38] |
mircea_popescu | !ticker m s.bbet | [05:39] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091228 / 0.0015999 (20800 shares, 18.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00149797 / 0.002 (473231 shares, 708.89 BTC) | [05:39] |
BitHub | still cheap | [05:39] |
mircea_popescu | that's like 9k total | [05:39] |
Namworld | try BTCT.co, I have a BBET passthrough there already | [05:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2627 @ 0.00063444 = 1.6667 BTC [-] | [05:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6650 @ 0.00063168 = 4.2007 BTC [-] | [05:44] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld what's it called ? | [05:44] |
BitHub | also bitfunder will be offering bbet shares soon | [05:44] |
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mircea_popescu | Final SD Profit: 60813.98753788 BTC | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | fuck me. | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | it's making another 20k this month ?! | [05:46] |
BitHub | awww yeeee | [05:46] |
Ukto | No thanks, I'm good MP | [05:46] |
BitHub | time to pay daddy a lil dividend | [05:46] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto you haxxor you, when do i see bf ticker in here already! | [05:47] |
Ukto | I have been trying to wrap up the new BF features for a couple days now | [05:47] |
Ukto | lots of distractions | [05:47] |
mircea_popescu | do you have any idea how inconvenient it is to not check the various stuff going on over there ? | [05:47] |
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mircea_popescu | looking at dooglus' graphs no wonder the fucking whale bought 1mn sdice today | [05:48] |
Ukto | hey, you got your favicon you wanted | [05:48] |
Ukto | :P | [05:48] |
BitHub | oh, a bf ticker would be so friggen good | [05:48] |
mircea_popescu | no but srsl;y, you have to do it already. | [05:48] |
Ukto | BitHub: yeah I will be pushing the api for kako to set it up in a few days | [05:48] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves do you consider stuff like trolling sa bitcoin marketing ? | [05:49] |
BitHub | professional trollers for only 2btc a week | [05:49] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1000 @ 0.0062 = 6.2 BTC [+] | [05:50] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub it's a tough question he got. what even constitutes btc marketing ? | [05:50] |
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mircea_popescu | im pushing it in some ways, many other people are too, prolly more than me | [05:50] |
ThickAsThieves | i think it does actually help | [05:50] |
ThickAsThieves | probly not ideal | [05:51] |
ThickAsThieves | but it is attention | [05:51] |
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BitHub | you can outsource and hire proper marketers | [05:51] |
BitHub | very cheaply | [05:52] |
vampireb | folks, so S.DICE pays 2000BTC for 10mil or 100mil shares? | [05:52] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub yeah, but what'd they do ? | [05:52] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb 2k for 10mn last month. by the looks of it 5-10k for the whole 50mn this month | [05:52] |
BitHub | in any business mircea when you have a new product or something you hire a sales team or marketing team that goes out as pimps out whatever you want | [05:52] |
vampireb | so since 3% were released, so now it will pay for 13% instead of 10% | [05:53] |
BitHub | and | [05:53] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub i understand that part. the problem here is, bitcoin selling is different from most anything else. | [05:53] |
vampireb | ok thanks | [05:53] |
ThickAsThieves | whats their angle though? | [05:53] |
ThickAsThieves | safer than fiat? | [05:53] |
BitHub | i have to tell marketing people how to do their job? | [05:53] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb no, they pay for the whole 50mn (which obviously 37% whatever goes right back to erik) | [05:53] |
ThickAsThieves | more profitable than wall street? | [05:53] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub you have to give them an angle. | [05:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4373 @ 0.000631 = 2.7594 BTC [-] | [05:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00063785 = 3.0617 BTC [+] | [05:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10477 @ 0.00064076 = 6.7132 BTC [+] | [05:54] |
BitHub | their angle is, its a new thing called bitcoin, explaining it to people | [05:54] |
vampireb | i thought there were 100 mil of shares, not 50 mil? | [05:54] |
ThickAsThieves | but why does one want a bitcoin? | [05:54] |
vampireb | erik sold only 10%, kept 90% | [05:54] |
ThickAsThieves | vamp, correct sorta | [05:54] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb yes, 100mn shares, but owner may never sell more than half | [05:54] |
vampireb | ic | [05:55] |
BitHub | a whole wide range of reasons, do i really need to go in detail? | [05:55] |
ThickAsThieves | only if you wanna continue the conversation | [05:55] |
ThickAsThieves | idc | [05:55] |
vampireb | i am just trying to figure out amount of divident per share | [05:55] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub the problem is this : the fixed cost to get someone into btc is huge | [05:55] |
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mircea_popescu | how are they going to close the loop ? | [05:55] |
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mircea_popescu | vampireb a 1mn block will likely get about 200 btc at current (20k) estimated profit for the month. | [05:56] |
vampireb | ~3.5% / mo that not bad | [05:56] |
Chaang-Noi | so i see riple is active, what exactly does it do again? how is it differnet from bitcoin other than using a premined coin? | [05:56] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142150.0 Chaang-Noi | [05:56] |
ThickAsThieves | my wife works in nonprofit sector, i was thinking that nonprofits should uptake bitcoin acceptance for donations | [05:56] |
vampireb | goat did you get unbanned or something? | [05:57] |
ThickAsThieves | just claim them as anonymous donations | [05:57] |
ThickAsThieves | after converting to fiat | [05:57] |
vampireb | or theymos supressed your avatar | [05:57] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves possibly. | [05:57] |
BitHub | i was thinking to setup a service to collect donations for celebs and charaties and stuff, but might get in trouble | [05:57] |
BitHub | even tho i would give them 100% of the bitcoin | [05:57] |
Chaang-Noi | thanks MP | [05:57] |
ThickAsThieves | like domestic violence shelters or dog shelters, etc | [05:58] |
Chaang-Noi | vamp, i can now send PMs | [05:58] |
BitHub | see i think you would hire a marketing team to sell the idea of bitcoin to merchants first | [05:58] |
BitHub | i think that's what bitpay is doing atm | [05:58] |
mircea_popescu | it is. | [05:59] |
thestringpuller | this is the most active I've seen the channel in awhile | [05:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4729 @ 0.00062002 = 2.9321 BTC [-] | [05:59] |
Chaang-Noi | mircea, that link seems to show what is wrong with Ripple, my question is, why did they even bother to make ripple, what can it do that bitcoin cant? | [06:00] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 500 @ 0.0062 = 3.1 BTC [+] | [06:00] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi i have not yet been able to glean that. | [06:00] |
mircea_popescu | as far as i can tell, it's all some dorks who wanna be developers cause they figure its cool. | [06:00] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like kids wanted to be rockstars in 1970 | [06:00] |
BitHub | haha | [06:00] |
BitHub | its made up of some very interesting characters, for sure. | [06:01] |
Chaang-Noi | ripple seems like a step backwards :/ | [06:01] |
vampireb | wth is ripple | [06:01] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb some bizzare shit, i haven't gotten it myself. | [06:01] |
Chaang-Noi | www.ripple.com | [06:01] |
Chaang-Noi | it is like a centralized bitcoin right? | [06:02] |
Chaang-Noi | this seems silly... i expected google of facebook to do something like this but these clowns on their own? hmmm | [06:02] |
Chaang-Noi | oh JoelKatz is involved with ripple, lol | [06:03] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, they've been all over how i hate them cause they r competitors and other nefarious reasons. | [06:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6673 @ 0.00064076 = 4.2758 BTC [+] | [06:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00064483 = 8.3183 BTC [+] | [06:04] |
mircea_popescu | fuck knows why people get so wrapped up in that nonsense. anyway. | [06:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16677 @ 0.00064505 = 10.7575 BTC [+] | [06:04] |
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Chaang-Noi | it seems you can create debt on ripple somehow... i wonder if this will end in tears | [06:05] |
mircea_popescu | So, shareholders fund the entire startup costs of the company and end up with 38% 'ownership.' It was exactly this point, what is ASICMiner's % of the company, that was debated in some detail when ASICMiner announced the IPO. | [06:06] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile people ragging on asicminer hardcore. | [06:06] |
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BitHub | why, what happened with asicminer? | [06:07] |
Ukto | hey Chaang-Noi | [06:07] |
vampireb | for some reasons ripple was e-numbered lol | [06:07] |
vampireb | i tought^^ | [06:07] |
BitHub | 38% ownership is pretty sad | [06:07] |
maximian | I can't understand how Ripple can take off… it requires that you establish establish credit relationships with your friends or associates. I'm too fucking lazy to do that. | [06:07] |
BitHub | should be 50/50 at least | [06:07] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub well... it was the original offer iirc. | [06:07] |
mircea_popescu | maximian part of why im saying i dont get it is in the hopes someone goes "no you fucking idiot, it's like so and SO! see ?" | [06:08] |
BitHub | did you buy any asicminer shares? | [06:08] |
mircea_popescu | so far no such luck. | [06:08] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub i shorted some long ago. i'd short some more but meh. | [06:08] |
mircea_popescu | they're not on an exchange, too much hassle. | [06:08] |
maximian | right | [06:08] |
Ukto | Chaang-Noi: Hed, joelKats, and a few others | [06:08] |
mircea_popescu | wait. hed, what hed ? | [06:09] |
Ukto | Jed | [06:09] |
Ukto | you asshole :P | [06:09] |
Chaang-Noi | Hi Ukto | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | aok | [06:09] |
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mircea_popescu | dude if you said hed hoelkatz i'd have totally gotten it. | [06:09] |
mircea_popescu | but no, you gotta be fancy and shit | [06:09] |
Ukto | :P | [06:09] |
Ukto | WeExchange is the first, and only ripple gateway at the moment | [06:09] |
Ukto | I can confidently tell you, quite a bit of currency has already passed into ripple. | [06:10] |
mircea_popescu | so can i create ripple debt, sell it to weex cash bitcoins and arrivederci ? | [06:10] |
Ukto | Doesnt work that way | [06:10] |
mircea_popescu | which way does it work ? | [06:10] |
vampireb | since i inherently dont trust anyone, why would i trust a friend of a friend | [06:10] |
Ukto | vampireb: you shouldnt | [06:10] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb because butt ? | [06:10] |
vampireb | i woulnt trust 1k to my gf.. especially her friend | [06:10] |
Ukto | thats what I am trying to say | [06:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00062877 = 10.9406 BTC [-] | [06:11] |
Ukto | You dont WANT to trust a friend of a friend of a friend | [06:11] |
Ukto | in fact | [06:11] |
Ukto | you dont want to trust friends | [06:11] |
Ukto | unless you are prepaid | [06:11] |
BitHub | should i trust bitfloor with all my btc? | [06:11] |
vampireb | expecially about money, dont trust friends... | [06:11] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb sounds to me like you need a new gf. | [06:11] |
Ukto | BitHub: perhaps | [06:11] |
mod6 | BitHub: all?! | [06:11] |
BitHub | haha | [06:11] |
mircea_popescu | BitHub no. | [06:11] |
Ukto | :P | [06:11] |
Ukto | the real idea | [06:11] |
Ukto | is that you pick your gateways as issuers | [06:11] |
Ukto | and trust THEM | [06:11] |
Ukto | for example | [06:11] |
Ukto | I might only trust MPEX issued USD | [06:12] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much the only exchange i'd trust with btc/fiat atm is the bitcoin-central.net ppl | [06:12] |
Ukto | and BitHub may only trust GOX issued USD | [06:12] |
vampireb | well.. i got a new one :-) the old one still owes me shit load of money | [06:12] |
Ukto | these are non-compatable | [06:12] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto how do you verify it's mpex issued ? | [06:12] |
Ukto | but vampireb might trust both | [06:12] |
BitHub | i was very cautious about using weex and bitfunder at first because i was really unsure about it, but so far its been good experience | [06:12] |
Ukto | and have an 'offer' in the network to exchange them for a small fee | [06:12] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb have her pay back in blowjobs. let new gf get them | [06:12] |
Chaang-Noi | MP you dont trust btc-e ? | [06:12] |
vampireb | its almost impossible to collect ious from friends or family | [06:12] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi these guys specifically because they have the french bank insurance thing. | [06:13] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: your ripple wallet doesnt just account for totals by ISO name | [06:13] |
Chaang-Noi | ahh | [06:13] |
Ukto | they are just sum'd that way | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | any other exchange, including mtgox, could just close tomorrow and well... enjoy liquidators | [06:13] |
Ukto | in fact, you are holding issued notes signed by the issuer | [06:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19750 @ 0.00062002 = 12.2454 BTC [-] | [06:13] |
Ukto | that have an ISO designation | [06:13] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto like gpg signed ? | [06:13] |
Ukto | kinda | [06:13] |
Ukto | but its not needed | [06:14] |
Ukto | its all stored in the p2p ledger database | [06:14] |
Chaang-Noi | Ukto are involved with ripple, also can you tell me why this system is differnt than btc? | [06:14] |
Ukto | Chaang-Noi: I ahve been | [06:14] |
Ukto | :P | [06:14] |
Ukto | and I am not involved with it per say, I jsut run the only gate way | [06:14] |
vampireb | sounds like a scammer heaven to me | [06:14] |
Chaang-Noi | what is the over all pint of goal of ripple? | [06:14] |
Chaang-Noi | point+ | [06:14] |
Ukto | and making a desktop wallet program for it | [06:14] |
vampireb | i guess easy conversion between currencies | [06:14] |
Ukto | de-centralised backed fiat | [06:14] |
Ukto | in my opinion | [06:15] |
vampireb | but bitcoin does the same, i can convert to any fiat | [06:15] |
Chaang-Noi | how is it decentralized if you have the only gateway? | [06:15] |
Ukto | covert yes | [06:15] |
Ukto | bit this is actual currency | [06:15] |
Ukto | no conversion | [06:15] |
Ukto | but | [06:15] |
vampireb | if i go to russia, i just send BTC to qukppay machines | [06:15] |
maximian | I'd like to try it, but the Ripple wallet tells me I need ripples (XRP), and it's not clear how to get those. | [06:15] |
Ukto | your misunderstanding | [06:15] |
Ukto | Ripple is NOT ment to replace btc | [06:15] |
Ukto | ripple is VERY btc friendly | [06:15] |
* | BitHub tweaks his ripple | [06:16] |
* | Ukto ripples BitHub | [06:16] |
Chaang-Noi | i do not understand what ripple does :/ | [06:16] |
vampireb | how ripple covers exchange rate | [06:16] |
Ukto | it allows you to store your fiats | [06:16] |
pigeons | it lets you pay people or get paid | [06:16] |
Ukto | lemme rephrase that | [06:16] |
BitHub | fiat is such a sexy word | [06:16] |
Ukto | it lets you store ANYTHING | [06:16] |
Ukto | decentralised | [06:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 55 @ 0.719 = 39.545 BTC [+] | [06:16] |
BitHub | hehe ripples | [06:16] |
Ukto | BitHub: your thinking of overpriced cars again | [06:16] |
Ukto | :P | [06:16] |
Chaang-Noi | btc let me get paid or pay others | [06:17] |
BitHub | think i will name my kid fiat | [06:17] |
BitHub | yo fiiiiiiiiat | [06:17] |
vampireb | ok so I got $20 in IOU from ripple, how do I convert to the actual $20 bill | [06:17] |
pigeons | yes but only in btc, ripple lets you get paid in silver, hours, seashells, or euros | [06:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.721 = 23.793 BTC [+] | [06:17] |
pigeons | vampireb: you send it to someone who will accept it and give you a note | [06:17] |
Ukto | and POOP | [06:17] |
Ukto | you can pay ppl in POOP | [06:17] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto you're totally insane if you're dicking around with destops for ripple instead of plugging bf in here. | [06:18] |
Ukto | >,> | [06:18] |
mircea_popescu | coders dude. give them a challenge, they'll be happy | [06:18] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: lol, nah, the desktop codes on the side burner | [06:18] |
* | Ukto is focusd 100% on a new major feature for BF | [06:18] |
BitHub | :D | [06:18] |
vampireb | so that someone may charge me interest... Hey you give me $20 in IOU, and I give $10 in physical bills... | [06:18] |
vampireb | hmm | [06:18] |
* | BitHub feeds Ukto slow | [06:18] |
BitHub | stay focus | [06:19] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons how do i collect a seashell ? | [06:19] |
Chaang-Noi | what is BF? | [06:19] |
pigeons | vampireb: interest is in the spec, and the original ripplepay implementation, but not implemented yet in opencoin/payward ripple.com system | [06:19] |
Ukto | https://bitfunder.com | [06:19] |
mircea_popescu | Chaang-Noi bitfunder.com | [06:19] |
Ukto | you know of it | [06:19] |
Ukto | you saw it long ago | [06:19] |
Ukto | in alpha | [06:19] |
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Chaang-Noi | yeah, you just never told me the name:) | [06:19] |
vampireb | so what's the difference... | [06:19] |
Ukto | apples and oranges | [06:19] |
vampireb | I sent 10BTC to a guy in NY, and I get $200 from him | [06:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00632265 = 2.5291 BTC [-] | [06:19] |
vampireb | or I do the same in Russia | [06:20] |
vampireb | same stuff. | [06:20] |
* | BitHub is looking forward to this secret super new feature | [06:20] |
Chaang-Noi | is BF working out well Ukto? i have not been folowing that stuff much lately. | [06:20] |
Ukto | Chaang-Noi: user support says yes. :) | [06:20] |
Chaang-Noi | it looked cool when you let me see it ages ago. | [06:20] |
mircea_popescu | it's all blue and shit. | [06:20] |
Ukto | Its gotten 1,000x better since you last saw it | [06:21] |
Chaang-Noi | oh cool | [06:21] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: I thoguth about putting a unicorn easter egg somewhere, just fo ryou | [06:21] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [06:21] |
Ukto | a nice BLUE one | [06:21] |
Ukto | :P | [06:21] |
Chaang-Noi | ill have to check it out, i hope btc goes back down, i need to buy somre more... | [06:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 53 @ 0.721 = 38.213 BTC [+] | [06:21] |
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Ukto | Chaang-Noi: not for at least 3~5 weeks | [06:21] |
Ukto | we will see $30 within 30~45 days | [06:22] |
BitHub | update the news section Ukto :P give me a lil present to read :) | [06:22] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto we might see 100 | [06:22] |
Ukto | i see 100's all the time | [06:22] |
Ukto | :P | [06:22] |
* | Ukto mails mircea_popescu a jar of now-defunct canadian pennies | [06:22] |
Chaang-Noi | ukto i think you might be right, no one is selling! once it hits 30ish you see it crashing a bit? | [06:22] |
mircea_popescu | "Please stop being a jerk, EskimoBob." evoorhees is so cute i swear | [06:23] |
Ukto | depends on the news burst that goes with it | [06:23] |
Ukto | right now a lot of " | [06:23] |
mircea_popescu | i imagine the reason eskimoblob is a jerk is because nobody asked him to stop befoar. | [06:23] |
Ukto | normals" are investing into btc | [06:23] |
Ukto | when it hits 30, if there is not a huge news buzz of crazyness | [06:23] |
Ukto | it will slump back to $25 | [06:23] |
Ukto | or $22 | [06:23] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto i won't sell, for instance. i don;t care what it is tbh. | [06:23] |
Ukto | same | [06:23] |
Ukto | I dont trade | [06:23] |
Ukto | I use btc for btc | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | it all depends how many people hold how much btc this way | [06:24] |
Chaang-Noi | hmm... anyone want gold or silver for btc? :) | [06:24] |
vampireb | bitcoin shouldnt be 22.. now... now like i complain.. | [06:24] |
vampireb | not* | [06:24] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb why not ? | [06:24] |
Ukto | but.. when it hits $30, if there IS a big news deal, and it goes further viral | [06:24] |
Ukto | you can expect a major price jump to $35~$40 very quickly | [06:24] |
BitHub | where chaang? | [06:24] |
BitHub | jesus ukto | [06:24] |
Chaang-Noi | the gold and silver is in the usa | [06:24] |
vampireb | i dont know, it rose too quickly. i prefer stable rates.. then the rate that change every day by like 10% | [06:24] |
* | BitHub gets his funds ready to buy up tomorrow | [06:24] |
Ukto | I have been contacted by a number of 'normal' investors | [06:25] |
Ukto | seeking help with using btc, and other things | [06:25] |
vampireb | i cant type. :/ | [06:25] |
Ukto | through various channels | [06:25] |
BitHub | do they have ballz deep pockets? | [06:25] |
Ukto | bitcoin is becoming a buzz | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | vampireb i see your point re stable rates. | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | however, there's a great advantage to mlt cap over 1bn | [06:25] |
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mircea_popescu | and since by now stability is fucked anyway | [06:25] |
mircea_popescu | might as well get the bn | [06:26] |
Ukto | We had stability. | [06:26] |
vampireb | if i sell something that i bought for USD.. i dont need to recalc the price 10x time a day.. I wouldnt do that for EUR | [06:26] |
Ukto | It drove in a new demand | [06:26] |
Ukto | now its going nuts due to the huge demand | [06:26] |
Ukto | All exchanges are currently getting a flood of incoming cash | [06:26] |
BitHub | best to buy up while its 25 | [06:26] |
vampireb | i sold just a PI for 3BTC, that's over $70 now | [06:26] |
Ukto | This is fact, not fiction | [06:26] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto i know. | [06:26] |
vampireb | rasberry pi | [06:27] |
vampireb | hard to set prices which such swings | [06:27] |
Ukto | In fact, after some dsicussions, I venture to say that the last 30 days, has been the largest influx of new cash into exchanges in such a short period ever for bitcoin | [06:27] |
BitHub | yeah, i can see that | [06:28] |
Bugpowder | Duh | [06:28] |
BitHub | it has been doing really well this year so far | [06:28] |
Ukto | We are riding on a tsunami atm, thats jsut getting bigger until it crashes into something. but in the end, it will still leave higher water levels than the start. | [06:28] |
Bugpowder | I am going to have a lot of | [06:28] |
vampireb | well people know more and more about bitcoin.. few of my coworkers knew about.. that suprised me a lot | [06:28] |
Bugpowder | Coins after the crash | [06:28] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder eheheeh | [06:29] |
Ukto | coingenuity ran into a bartender girl at a bar randomly, who knew of them | [06:29] |
Ukto | I coudl have written that better. oh well | [06:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13100 @ 0.00062002 = 8.1223 BTC [-] | [06:29] |
vampireb | is it that becuase of silkroad ? :_) | [06:29] |
coingenuity | Ukto: was a coffee-girl, but yeah | [06:29] |
Ukto | fine | [06:29] |
Ukto | COFFEE | [06:29] |
coingenuity | heh, point still stands | [06:29] |
mircea_popescu | coingenuity i was thinking oh, the man drinks ? | [06:29] |
Bugpowder | Fuckin take all of mpbor in well | [06:30] |
vampireb | like a coffeehouse in amsterdam? | [06:30] |
Bugpowder | Timed puts | [06:30] |
coingenuity | not an ugly girl, as well | [06:30] |
Ukto | only Nyquil | [06:30] |
Ukto | :P | [06:30] |
coingenuity | Ukto: speaks the truth, im not a substance-liker | [06:30] |
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coingenuity | btw | [06:31] |
coingenuity | to that end, when i was at defcon, i had a standing bet | [06:31] |
coingenuity | that the vast majority of strangers i asked would know what bitcoin was | [06:31] |
coingenuity | to make it interesting, i basically only asked women if i could | [06:31] |
mircea_popescu | did you win ? | [06:31] |
coingenuity | and only 1 out of ALL the genders i asked didn't know what bitcoin was | [06:31] |
coingenuity | around 10 people, mostly women | [06:31] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [06:31] |
pigeons | they were my hos | [06:32] |
mod6 | haha | [06:32] |
coingenuity | pigeons: lol | [06:32] |
Ukto | also, the CEO of the ripple foundation is Chris Larsen, former chaiman, CEO and co-founder of prosper.com | [06:32] |
Ukto | He has made a lot of big connections for Ripple | [06:32] |
mircea_popescu | amazon coin has a lot of big connections too. | [06:33] |
mircea_popescu | i still don't know why i'd use it. why'd i use it ? | [06:33] |
kakobreklaa | my bitcoind has 8 connections. | [06:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.00062002 = 6.6652 BTC [-] | [06:34] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: *shrug* thats for you to figure out. | [06:35] |
Ukto | :) | [06:35] |
coingenuity | mircea_popescu: amazon coin cracks me up | [06:35] |
Ukto | I am jsut a gateway | [06:35] |
Ukto | ask the ripple guys in #ripple | [06:35] |
mircea_popescu | coingenuity such a fine example of design by commitee | [06:35] |
Ukto | lots of people wanted to cash into it | [06:35] |
Ukto | I said okay | [06:35] |
Ukto | and filled a gap | [06:35] |
Ukto | end of story | [06:35] |
Ukto | :P | [06:35] |
mircea_popescu | Ukto not like it's a crime. im just questing for knowledge | [06:35] |
Ukto | honestly, I think they want it to replace payment services | [06:35] |
mircea_popescu | without a blockchain ? | [06:36] |
Ukto | yes | [06:36] |
pigeons | it has a blockchain | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | hurr. | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | wait, what ? | [06:36] |
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Ukto | no blockchain | [06:36] |
vampireb | i dont think ripple is much more different than a bitcoin, and that's just fragmenting the market.. | [06:36] |
Ukto | near instant transfers | [06:36] |
vampireb | they have a ledger | [06:36] |
Ukto | yes | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | dude they can't even agree if it has a chain ;/ | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | i've had enough of this for now, my brain is rippling. | [06:36] |
vampireb | i agree, the website is so confusing. | [06:37] |
Ukto | very confusing | [06:37] |
Ukto | I agree | [06:37] |
Ukto | I have told them to change it | [06:37] |
coingenuity | mircea_popescu: lol | [06:37] |
Ukto | Since I have the server source, etc, I have a very deep understanding of exactly how it works | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | you don't have the source ? | [06:38] |
mircea_popescu | did you code your server to api spec or what | [06:38] |
Ukto | [22:38] |
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mircea_popescu | a a sorry. | [06:38] |
Ukto | :) | [06:38] |
Ukto | Its not public atm | [06:38] |
Ukto | and very few people 'understand' it | [06:38] |
mircea_popescu | ok so. it does payments. how does it resolve the dblspend problem ? blockchain ? | [06:38] |
Ukto | no blockchain | [06:39] |
Ukto | ituses ledgers | [06:39] |
pigeons | https://ripple.com/wiki/Ledger_Format | [06:39] |
mircea_popescu | but ? | [06:39] |
Ukto | and concensus | [06:39] |
pigeons | hash table ledger, similar idea | [06:39] |
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Ukto | except your not chaining anything | [06:39] |
Ukto | and theres no mining | [06:39] |
mircea_popescu | so if you don't chain them how do you get a history ? | [06:39] |
maximian | so it uses consensus instead of proof-of-work to secure the ledger | [06:39] |
pigeons | you do chain them | [06:39] |
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Ukto | maximian: correct | [06:40] |
Ukto | pigeons: to some extent | [06:40] |
Ukto | however its not the same style | [06:40] |
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Ukto | for example right now | [06:40] |
Ukto | thre are at least 3 missing ledgers | [06:40] |
Ukto | a chain cannot have a missing link | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | Flags | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | Every node has a 32-bit flags field that indicates which universal and node-type-specific flags are present. | [06:40] |
mircea_popescu | ok, who specced this thing ? | [06:40] |
Ukto | was not me | [06:40] |
pigeons | yeah well we'll see how this specific implementation of ripple evolves | [06:40] |
Ukto | its weird | [06:40] |
Ukto | also | [06:41] |
mircea_popescu | so noboduy admits to having specced it i take it ? | [06:41] |
Ukto | there is division use | [06:41] |
Ukto | and that annoyed the crap out of me | [06:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00062067 = 2.2965 BTC [+] | [06:42] |
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mircea_popescu | To store a large directory of indexes, the entries are divided into nodes of a manageable size. Each node knows the relative offset of the previous and next nodes. Empty nodes can be deleted. However, the first node can not be deleted unless there are no other nodes as we use the first node to efficiently find other nodes. | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | ok this is nonsense. | [06:42] |
maximian | So is the consensus method proven to be equally secure as proof-of-work, or does it not have to be? | [06:42] |
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mircea_popescu | if you delete an empty node don't you get a dangling pointer ? | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | maximian it's not nearly as secure fwiw. | [06:42] |
pigeons | maximian: neither is proven | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | srsly ? 4 years into it, still not proven ? | [06:43] |
maximian | I suppose I don't mean proven in the mathematical sense. | [06:43] |
pigeons | proof of work + supsidy has worked well for a few years so far yes | [06:43] |
Ukto | anywho | [06:43] |
pigeons | i wouldnt say proven, and it remains to be seen if proof of work will hold when subsidy is gone | [06:43] |
Ukto | I am gonna try to code | [06:43] |
Ukto | so I can get this done | [06:43] |
mircea_popescu | pigeons what happens to the consensus method if there's a net split for 24 hours which then resolves ? | [06:44] |
Ukto | ah | [06:44] |
Ukto | that was one of my peevs | [06:44] |
Ukto | there is an islanding thing | [06:44] |
mircea_popescu | i would think there would be yes. | [06:44] |
pigeons | i am not familair with consensus or this ripple implementation. i am just saying proof of work is far from proven | [06:44] |
Ukto | as for the plans on that | [06:44] |
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mircea_popescu | that we agree with. | [06:44] |
Ukto | there is a minority detection thing | [06:44] |
Ukto | they have | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | im just a fanboi. | [06:45] |
vampireb | ok. so they have a current ledger, when the system decides to create a new ledger? after xx seconds? xx transactions? | [06:46] |
maximian | My understanding is that the proof-of-work method of synchronizing nodes is a real breakthrough in distributed computing, and I'm wondering how consensus stacks up against that. | [06:46] |
mircea_popescu | maximian same here. | [06:47] |
pigeons | its is less expensive and probable less "secure" but we don't know, that's why we use these things | [06:47] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder why it being less expensive is a good thing. | [06:47] |
mircea_popescu | isn't a good chunk of btc security derived precisely from the fact that its' so damned expensive to attack ? | [06:48] |
pigeons | yes | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | in some contexts i see less expensive and my brain reads cheap. | [06:48] |
pigeons | some of that was borrowed with ripple.com with their XRP transaction fees | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | i thought that was more akin some sort of demurage implementation | [06:49] |
pigeons | well there are many different goals and people are willing or able to pay differnt prices for the, | [06:49] |
pigeons | mircea_popescu: it is intended to add expense. they sort of demmurge in the fact that they are permanently destroyed, increasing the value and expense | [06:49] |
mircea_popescu | well, i guess we see what time brings to it. | [06:50] |
pigeons | it is quite beta for sure | [06:50] |
maximian | I've got an open mind about it, and I'd like to try it, buy I can't get any of these XRPs to transact with | [06:51] |
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pigeons | give me your address and i'll give you some | [06:51] |
mircea_popescu | maximian do you have a client and everything ? | [06:51] |
maximian | pigeons: thanks, hold on | [06:51] |
maximian | mircea_popescu: I just setup a wallet at ripple.com | [06:51] |
maximian | it's web-based | [06:52] |
maximian | pigeons: r3B5eqGFAHKTD74sXajnMhmb41FmBtb3Sa | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | Loading... | [06:52] |
mircea_popescu | i guess it needs js or java or something ? | [06:52] |
maximian | yep | [06:52] |
maximian | js for sure | [06:52] |
pigeons | its a javascript browser plugin that uses websockets to connect to theri server | [06:52] |
pigeons | javascript | [06:52] |
Chaang-Noi | what happens all the money in ripple if say the govt shuts down ripple.com or redirects it to some other site? | [06:52] |
pigeons | you ideally run the client locally | [06:53] |
Chaang-Noi | oh, i did not know that could be done | [06:53] |
pigeons | right now it is obviously centralised and vulnerable in those ways | [06:53] |
Chaang-Noi | i do not unerstand how they got around the double spend issue unless either it is centralized, or they have a block chain | [06:54] |
maximian | awesome | [06:54] |
maximian | thanks pigeons | [06:54] |
pigeons | you got them? | [06:54] |
maximian | yep, got a green alert | [06:54] |
mircea_popescu | https://ripple.com/wp-content/themes/ripple-theme/img/logo.png | [06:55] |
maximian | 300 XRP | [06:55] |
BitHub | anybody ever succesfull able to show their localbitcoins.com add on their own website? | [06:55] |
maximian | pigeons: I received your trust 0.25 BTC event, how do I reciprocate? | [06:57] |
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Ukto | currently | [06:59] |
Ukto | the ONLY client | [06:59] |
Ukto | is the ripple.com JS | [06:59] |
Ukto | which is why I started making my client last month | [06:59] |
Ukto | once I get done with my current project | [06:59] |
Ukto | and do a couple quick small things | [06:59] |
Ukto | I will get it ready for alpha release | [06:59] |
Chaang-Noi | using JS and i can get hacked? | [06:59] |
Chaang-Noi | i use no script, i guess that is why it is not working for me. | [07:00] |
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Ukto | I poked someone in ripple to talk in #ripple | [07:01] |
Ukto | if you wanna go hound them with questions | [07:01] |
Ukto | ;) | [07:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 278 @ 0.00632265 = 1.7577 BTC [-] | [07:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 222 @ 0.0063 = 1.3986 BTC [-] | [07:03] |
Chaang-Noi | i asked a question, thanks ukto | [07:05] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [12:06] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.49002, Best ask: 23.50998, Bid-ask spread: 0.01996, Last trade: 23.51000, 24 hour volume: 49657.03583015, 24 hour low: 22.58468, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.39455 | [12:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6559 @ 0.00062664 = 4.1101 BTC [-] | [12:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1041 @ 0.00062473 = 0.6503 BTC [-] | [12:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7957 @ 0.00062667 = 4.9864 BTC [+] | [12:12] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2659 @ 0.00062473 = 1.6612 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2608 @ 0.00062032 = 1.6178 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8533 @ 0.0006203 = 5.293 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/02/electronics-border-seizures/ | [12:27] |
mircea_popescu | shit's pretty funny. if you buy an ipad it's not your ipad | [12:27] |
mircea_popescu | sez obama. | [12:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12699 @ 0.00062667 = 7.9581 BTC [+] | [12:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21384 @ 0.00063407 = 13.559 BTC [+] | [12:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00062699 = 8.7152 BTC [-] | [12:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20967 @ 0.0006203 = 13.0058 BTC [-] | [12:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5904 @ 0.00062003 = 3.6607 BTC [-] | [12:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14145 @ 0.00062002 = 8.7702 BTC [-] | [12:43] |
Schadenfreude | One of many reasons why evorhees should move out of the US asap | [12:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00062002 = 7.2542 BTC [-] | [12:49] |
mircea_popescu | i think he prolly will. | [12:49] |
error4733 | already done before the IPO if he was smart | [12:51] |
Schadenfreude | That's my main worry if it comes to s.dice, think a Kim Dotcomesque scenario | [12:51] |
error4733 | no way | [12:52] |
Schadenfreude | yah wai | [12:52] |
error4733 | all the players need it's the 12 addres | [12:52] |
Schadenfreude | Doesn't it need maintenance? | [12:52] |
error4733 | ok explain for me please how the fed or other can take down S.dice | [12:53] |
error4733 | one main page in irlande | [12:53] |
error4733 | the script somewhere in the world | [12:53] |
error4733 | with 5 backup | [12:53] |
mircea_popescu | Schadenfreude it needs some maintenance, obviously, but i don't think erik is involved in that himself | [12:53] |
mircea_popescu | error4733 yes it's very censorship resistant. | [12:54] |
mircea_popescu | it got to ipo on mpex cause it's about as strong as mpex after all. | [12:54] |
Schadenfreude | Well, obviously I was more worried as shareholder - no dividends, price tanking etc. | [12:54] |
error4733 | i'm in the same boat | [12:54] |
error4733 | but i think for all those detail before bought my share | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | and some govt going bonkers is a legitimate concern | [12:55] |
mircea_popescu | but still i guess the damage could be well limited. | [12:55] |
error4733 | even if eric hold all the 90%, just no way to prove it | [12:56] |
error4733 | 88% sorry | [12:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC | [12:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [12:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00062002 = 1.5501 BTC [-] | [12:59] |
mircea_popescu | prove what you mean ? | [13:05] |
error4733 | if fed knok the eric door | [13:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11050 @ 0.00062002 = 6.8512 BTC [-] | [13:06] |
error4733 | Knock* | [13:06] |
mircea_popescu | well, the only way to prove it is if i say so, or else if they find a cleartext stat. | [13:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062074 = 3.0416 BTC [+] | [13:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 8 @ 0.0062 = 0.0496 BTC [+] | [13:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17200 @ 0.00062013 = 10.6662 BTC [-] | [13:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1700 @ 0.00062002 = 1.054 BTC [-] | [13:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16072 @ 0.00062002 = 9.965 BTC [-] | [13:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00062002 = 24.7388 BTC [-] | [13:22] |
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mircea_popescu | http://www.google.com/search?q=mpex&complete=0 | [13:25] |
mircea_popescu | ahh, finally ahead of the wiki | [13:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 40 @ 0.0429 = 1.716 BTC [-] | [13:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 6 @ 0.00606903 = 0.0364 BTC [-] | [13:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6436 @ 0.00062074 = 3.9951 BTC [+] | [13:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3312 @ 0.00062314 = 2.0638 BTC [+] | [13:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00606903 = 4.8552 BTC [-] | [13:47] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.0007 BTC | [13:50] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.0006312 = 2.5248 BTC [+] | [13:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33959 @ 0.00063121 = 21.4353 BTC [+] | [13:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8852 @ 0.00062314 = 5.516 BTC [-] | [13:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3848 @ 0.00062002 = 2.3858 BTC [-] | [13:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12364 @ 0.00062002 = 7.6659 BTC [-] | [14:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00062002 = 3.7201 BTC [-] | [14:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8906 @ 0.00063121 = 5.6216 BTC [+] | [14:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2444 @ 0.00063126 = 1.5428 BTC [+] | [14:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00062002 = 1.457 BTC [-] | [14:10] |
Bowjob | weekend dip | [14:18] |
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error4733 | haha usagi nice catch | [14:20] |
Bowjob | the dip is hapening! | [14:20] |
Bowjob | 20.80 | [14:20] |
Bowjob | 22.80 i mean | [14:20] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [14:21] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 22.79881, Best ask: 22.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08119, Last trade: 22.79881, 24 hour volume: 45295.99889934, 24 hour low: 22.75100, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.42737 | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | o lala | [14:21] |
Bowjob | well, we were moving too fast anyways | [14:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7197 @ 0.00062184 = 4.4754 BTC [+] | [14:22] |
Bowjob | What ever happened to pump and don't dump? | [14:23] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | volume isn't particularly high | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | this is a supply side hickup | [14:24] |
Bowjob | hey im not panicking lol | [14:24] |
Bowjob | theres this dude who called in 23.20 as the high of 2013 | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [14:25] |
gribble | Time since last block: 6 minutes and 19 seconds | [14:25] |
Bowjob | he can go suck a dick | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | he may well be right. | [14:25] |
Bowjob | its the same dude who asked for a 1200 BTC loan | [14:26] |
Bowjob | to "get back on his feet" | [14:27] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [14:27] |
Bowjob | since he's always wrong well, i bet hes wrong again | [14:27] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | seems unlikely it stays under this week's max | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | after all year barely began | [14:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00062184 = 5.2856 BTC [+] | [14:32] |
mircea_popescu | ;;tslb | [14:32] |
gribble | Time since last block: 8 minutes and 33 seconds | [14:32] |
Bowjob | yawn | [14:36] |
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Bowjob | ieh | [14:39] |
Bowjob | we're back | [14:39] |
Bowjob | ;;ticker | [14:39] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.12580, Best ask: 23.29899, Bid-ask spread: 0.17319, Last trade: 23.29900, 24 hour volume: 49226.55134271, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.37203 | [14:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5703 @ 0.00062184 = 3.5464 BTC [+] | [14:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9297 @ 0.00062346 = 5.7963 BTC [+] | [14:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5353 @ 0.00062346 = 3.3374 BTC [+] | [14:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10347 @ 0.00062349 = 6.4513 BTC [+] | [14:49] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8546 @ 0.00062122 = 5.3089 BTC [-] | [14:56] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [14:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00062122 = 10.5607 BTC [-] | [14:57] |
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ThickAsThieves | mp, what have you done: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21401111 | [15:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5454 @ 0.00062122 = 3.3881 BTC [-] | [15:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00062098 = 1.7698 BTC [-] | [15:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1896 @ 0.00062002 = 1.1756 BTC [-] | [15:02] |
Bowjob | sat dice still doesnt work for me | [15:03] |
Bowjob | I cant see the bets | [15:03] |
ThickAsThieves | same prob for me last nite, the dymanic content is coming thru very slowly | [15:03] |
ThickAsThieves | if you wait a while the betting table appears | [15:04] |
ThickAsThieves | but not the totals | [15:04] |
Bowjob | i see it | [15:04] |
Bowjob | i see it now, i dont see the recent bets though | [15:04] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves wasn't me dood | [15:05] |
mircea_popescu | was the other guy | [15:05] |
Bowjob | horsemeat.. i know canada produces horsemeat and ships it to japan | [15:07] |
Bowjob | ive nver tried though | [15:07] |
Bowjob | so, mp you got some entrants for your SA trolling contest? | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | like a dozen by now | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | and horsemeat is great, i have a bit of salami in my fridge right now. | [15:10] |
Bowjob | mm | [15:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9950 @ 0.0006228 = 6.1969 BTC [+] | [15:11] |
Bowjob | ive had dove, snake, aborted duck fetus, dog, and who knows what | [15:11] |
Bowjob | all are fucking delicious. cept dog.. it was meh | [15:11] |
mircea_popescu | i never had dog | [15:13] |
Bowjob | oh, ive had one of those turtles as well' | [15:13] |
mircea_popescu | or snake or bs chinese stuff | [15:13] |
mircea_popescu | turtle soup ? | [15:13] |
Bowjob | yeap | [15:13] |
mircea_popescu | yeah thats nice | [15:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 389 @ 0.00606903 = 2.3609 BTC [-] | [15:22] |
error4733 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516423#msg1516423 | [15:23] |
error4733 | #popcorn | [15:24] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.0006228 = 0.9965 BTC [+] | [15:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6296 @ 0.00062349 = 3.9255 BTC [+] | [15:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00062723 = 2.8225 BTC [+] | [15:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5865 @ 0.00063126 = 3.7023 BTC [+] | [15:29] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 31 @ 0.01 = 0.31 BTC [+] | [15:32] |
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error4733 | brown sugar please why ? | [15:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6241 @ 0.00063126 = 3.9397 BTC [+] | [15:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4698 @ 0.00063799 = 2.9973 BTC [+] | [15:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4261 @ 0.00063812 = 2.719 BTC [+] | [15:44] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00062987 = 6.6136 BTC [-] | [15:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35100 @ 0.00062002 = 21.7627 BTC [-] | [15:49] |
Anduck | i thought EskimoBob liked mp | [15:52] |
Bowjob | I'm buying 10,000 pizzas with 2 BTC. hit me up, | [15:56] |
Bowjob | actually it might be a good PR for bitcoin. donate the pizzas to people everywhere | [15:56] |
Bowjob | may 22 would be a good date, the day laszlo got his pizza | [15:58] |
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mircea_popescu | this is actually a good idea | [16:09] |
mircea_popescu | have an international day of bitcoin pizza | [16:10] |
mircea_popescu | just go out give some dood a pizza, put on youtube | [16:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12400 @ 0.00063812 = 7.9127 BTC [+] | [16:12] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.081 = 0.243 BTC [+] | [16:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 3 @ 0.0926 = 0.2778 BTC [+] | [16:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0928 BTC [+] | [16:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5989 @ 0.00063812 = 3.8217 BTC [+] | [16:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4111 @ 0.00063816 = 2.6235 BTC [+] | [16:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14700 @ 0.00063816 = 9.381 BTC [+] | [16:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 10 @ 0.0249 = 0.249 BTC [+] | [16:33] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 5 @ 0.0249 = 0.1245 BTC [+] | [16:34] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8232 @ 0.00063387 = 5.218 BTC [-] | [16:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3650 @ 0.00063816 = 2.3293 BTC [+] | [16:44] |
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Anduck | selling 50 ASICMINER shares at 0.44 BTC each | [16:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3739 @ 0.00063816 = 2.3861 BTC [+] | [16:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3315 @ 0.00063924 = 2.1191 BTC [+] | [16:49] |
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jurov | EskimoBob: if you know how to do things properly, go do it. make your own exchange | [16:53] |
jurov | otherwise i don't know what you hope to achieve | [16:53] |
Bowjob | he's a troll | [16:54] |
jurov | i'm always interested in one's original intention. troll or not. | [16:55] |
jurov | and EskimoBob is so far complete mystery | [16:55] |
jurov | "just a hater" classification won't satisfy me | [16:57] |
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mircea_popescu | what now ? | [16:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6309 @ 0.00063924 = 4.033 BTC [+] | [16:58] |
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jurov | not needed, there are already a dozen exchanges. i'm sure someone would welcome his expert consulting services | [17:00] |
jurov | then do better. or at least write blog about it. | [17:03] |
jurov | i think it isn't by chance that some do blog about their business and others do not. | [17:03] |
jurov | loooooooooooooooool | [17:04] |
jurov | there were some computations of mpex mkt cap around...and if you think you can do it better, then it would be worth much more, ofc | [17:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00064055 = 9.5442 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064096 = 1.8267 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00064168 = 0.1283 BTC [+] | [17:10] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12827 @ 0.00063972 = 8.2057 BTC [-] | [17:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1568 @ 0.00063568 = 0.9967 BTC [-] | [17:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9655 @ 0.0006313 = 6.0952 BTC [-] | [17:12] |
ThickAsThieves | mp, are you TradeFortress on bittalk? | [17:15] |
Bowjob | why do you ask that? | [17:16] |
Bowjob | almost surely, he isnt tradefortress | [17:16] |
ThickAsThieves | well i havent followed TF or anything, just saw some posts that were in line with mp comments here | [17:17] |
ThickAsThieves | and appearing in places where MPOE-PR comments | [17:17] |
ThickAsThieves | and never saw a user with mp's name on bittalk, so figured TF might be him | [17:18] |
ThickAsThieves | nothing scandalous, just wondering | [17:18] |
Bowjob | TradeFortress shows up here sometimes with MP simultaneously | [17:19] |
ThickAsThieves | word | [17:20] |
ThickAsThieves | still not impossible | [17:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00064168 = 1.3796 BTC [+] | [17:20] |
ThickAsThieves | but no biggie | [17:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 961 @ 0.00620896 = 5.9668 BTC [+] | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves nope ? | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | i don't have a btctalk acct art all, mpoe-pr does the foruming for me | [17:21] |
ThickAsThieves | word | [17:21] |
Bowjob | Tradefortress made a topic that has an starts with "I" in the in the topic title, I don't think mp would make a blunder like that | [17:22] |
Bowjob | Okay, not start with 'I' but close enough | [17:24] |
Bowjob | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135110.0 | [17:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2610 @ 0.00064168 = 1.6748 BTC [+] | [17:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3590 @ 0.00064204 = 2.3049 BTC [+] | [17:24] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0249 BTC [+] | [17:24] |
ThickAsThieves | we should investigate this much further | [17:24] |
pigeons | tradefortress is a tool, he tried to fork freicoin and attack it but forgot to make his code actuallu work | [17:25] |
Bowjob | also his firstbits is 1glados | [17:25] |
Bowjob | mp doesnt play vidja | [17:25] |
ThickAsThieves | i kidding | [17:26] |
ThickAsThieves | like i said, it was just a random though | [17:26] |
ThickAsThieves | t | [17:26] |
jurov | i once wanted to oust mp as sacha baron cohen.. still think that would be much better plan than some random forum dude | [17:26] |
pigeons | i had the same thoughts! | [17:26] |
Bowjob | Omg | [17:27] |
Bowjob | Borat as owner of MPEX | [17:27] |
Bowjob | lol | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | i think the guy is a kid trying things out | [17:29] |
mircea_popescu | i recall he was making some sort of project that didn't work but no speciffics. | [17:29] |
mircea_popescu | o wait, the bitoicn gem ripoff ? | [17:29] |
Bowjob | yeah | [17:30] |
Bowjob | the gold bar | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | jurov you know if you could get cohen to do it it'd prolly kick all ass | [17:30] |
jurov | oh and di you knew our friend here usagi uncovered mpoe-pr to be erin pavlina, a psychic from vegas? | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | that was a while ago neh ? | [17:32] |
jurov | yes | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | kinda ugly old woman i thought. | [17:33] |
mircea_popescu | coulda picked a better someone | [17:33] |
pigeons | http://www.erinpavlina.com/images/erin-injured.jpg | [17:35] |
jurov | fortunately later inaba got a doxing fever and inadvertently confirmed beyond doubt her real identity and her ties with mp/polimedia | [17:35] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [17:36] |
jurov | ^ twas awhile ago, too. just executive summary for newbs. | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | is there an insrtance where inaba set to do something | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | and didn't end up doing the exact oposite ? | [17:36] |
mircea_popescu | a, here we go https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695 | [17:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2900 @ 0.00064116 = 1.8594 BTC [-] | [17:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14960 @ 0.00064204 = 9.6049 BTC [+] | [17:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2040 @ 0.00064243 = 1.3106 BTC [+] | [17:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2737 @ 0.00064116 = 1.7549 BTC [-] | [17:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15763 @ 0.00063473 = 10.0052 BTC [-] | [17:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00063473 = 1.682 BTC [-] | [17:43] |
Ukto | it used to be | [17:44] |
Ukto | used to have ads all over the place here to sell milk in the 80s | [17:44] |
Ukto | "Milk, it does a body good." | [17:45] |
Ukto | to drink like 5~6 glasses a day | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | thats kinda what i do atm | [17:45] |
Ukto | even though your body can only absorb like 3 glasses worth of calcium a day | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | but milk is good | [17:45] |
Ukto | you drink D, 1%, 2%, skim? half/half? | [17:45] |
mircea_popescu | 4.6% | [17:46] |
Ukto | 0,o | [17:46] |
Ukto | D | [17:46] |
Ukto | then | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | a gallon is good for ~ 5-6 days | [17:46] |
Ukto | mircea_popescu: We call that D milk here. | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [17:46] |
Ukto | My personal preference | [17:46] |
Ukto | the lesser stuff is too watery | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | it is better if coming out of D cups yes. | [17:46] |
Ukto | haha | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | brb | [17:47] |
Ukto | thats a diff type of milk | [17:47] |
Ukto | :P | [17:47] |
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Ukto | same | [17:47] |
Ukto | sleep time | [17:47] |
Ukto | afk | [17:47] |
Ukto | usagi: thanks again for that help | [17:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2887 @ 0.00063473 = 1.8325 BTC [-] | [17:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11815 @ 0.00063159 = 7.4622 BTC [-] | [17:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2035 @ 0.0006313 = 1.2847 BTC [-] | [17:57] |
Bowjob | we now have a thread about pussies in bitcointalk | [18:00] |
Bowjob | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=142318.40 | [18:00] |
thestringpuller | this ones for mircea_popescu : http://qkme.me/3sx5kp?id=229974649 | [18:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9800 @ 0.0006313 = 6.1867 BTC [-] | [18:06] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [S.BBET-PT] 894 @ 0.002 = 1.788 BTC [+] | [18:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3810 @ 0.0006313 = 2.4053 BTC [-] | [18:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00062889 = 4.4966 BTC [-] | [18:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 190 @ 0.0006284 = 0.1194 BTC [-] | [18:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5060 @ 0.00063414 = 3.2087 BTC [+] | [18:22] |
Bowjob | that 2.5 mil shares way above the marketline, that's erik's right? | [18:23] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:23] |
mircea_popescu | Bowjob i think they were there since long ago | [18:23] |
mircea_popescu | no ? | [18:23] |
Bowjob | 0.01750000 1`000`000 0.01000000 2`500`000 | [18:24] |
Bowjob | mhm, i don't remember seeing it | [18:24] |
Bowjob | then again I never really look up that high lol | [18:24] |
mircea_popescu | maybe. im not even sure | [18:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14090 @ 0.00063414 = 8.935 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5399 @ 0.00063461 = 3.4263 BTC [+] | [18:29] |
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mjr_ | hey everyone | [18:35] |
mircea_popescu | hi | [18:36] |
mjr_ | what's new? | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | nothing much, bfl delivered, pirate paid, hell froze over... | [18:37] |
Anduck | only one of those really happened | [18:41] |
Anduck | mjr_: now it's your job to find out which one | [18:41] |
ThickAsThieves | you dont think bfl will deliver? | [18:42] |
mjr_ | bfl delivered? | [18:42] |
Anduck | nope, bfl didnt deliver. | [18:42] |
ThickAsThieves | (nothing much) was the correct answer | [18:42] |
mjr_ | hell must have frozen over then | [18:42] |
Anduck | correct! | [18:42] |
mjr_ | lol | [18:42] |
mjr_ | jeff's asic paid for itself in 9 days | [18:43] |
Anduck | yep | [18:43] |
mjr_ | that is pretty crazy | [18:43] |
mjr_ | but i guess the spike in price made it faster | [18:43] |
ThickAsThieves | I think BFL will deliver maybe 25% of orders in early march and fill all orders by April, ASICMINER will go online next weekend, and Avalons will trickle out very slowly starting at the end of the month | [18:43] |
ThickAsThieves | that's my best guesstimate from what i've read at least... | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | that'll make whoever made the big bfl bet pretty happy. | [18:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1476 @ 0.00063461 = 0.9367 BTC [+] | [18:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3300 @ 0.00063507 = 2.0957 BTC [+] | [18:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6824 @ 0.00063768 = 4.3515 BTC [+] | [18:46] |
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ThickAsThieves | that bet will be right on the delivery line I bet, hopefully it'll be a nailbiter | [18:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062841 = 0.6284 BTC [-] | [18:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3416 @ 0.0006284 = 2.1466 BTC [-] | [18:48] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+] | [18:50] |
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assbot | [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.33 BTC [+] | [18:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1994 @ 0.0006284 = 1.253 BTC [-] | [18:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00062593 = 3.8182 BTC [-] | [18:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1677 @ 0.00062532 = 1.0487 BTC [-] | [18:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.0248 BTC [-] | [19:02] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9376 @ 0.00063768 = 5.9789 BTC [+] | [19:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12810 @ 0.00064243 = 8.2295 BTC [+] | [19:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2338 @ 0.00064267 = 1.5026 BTC [+] | [19:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7396 @ 0.00064275 = 4.7538 BTC [+] | [19:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3021 @ 0.0006428 = 1.9419 BTC [+] | [19:05] |
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mircea_popescu | o hey, seems there's a little fun to play. | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | ;;everify midnightmagic | [19:08] |
gribble | Error: In order to authenticate, you must be present in one of the following channels: #bitcoin-otc;#bitcoin-otc-foyer;#bitcoin-otc-ru;#bitcoin-otc-eu;#bitcoin-otc-uk;#bitcoin-otc-bans | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | ooops | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | ;;eauth mircea_popescu | [19:08] |
gribble | Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [19:08] |
mircea_popescu | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:70718f15a4ccbc80065e1446f898b1dcd1a29f8c25ce0fdff2274276 | [19:09] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [19:09] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;rate ne0futur -10 never traded/interacted with the person. prolly scammer getting uppity | [19:09] |
Namworld | Hey evoorhees | [19:09] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user ne0futur has been recorded. | [19:09] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate bobberb -10 never traded/interacted with the person. prolly scammer getting uppity | [19:09] |
gribble | Rating entry successful. Your rating of -10 for user bobberb has been recorded. | [19:09] |
evoorhees | hey hey | [19:10] |
Namworld | dafuq mircea? | [19:10] |
mircea_popescu | i have no idea | [19:10] |
mircea_popescu | i guess the scammers are getting organised now. | [19:10] |
Namworld | pretty sure ne0futur didn't deserve that | [19:11] |
maximian | evoorhees: how are things? seems like the s.dice website is having trouble | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld he rated me -2. | [19:11] |
mircea_popescu | i have no idea who he is or wtf. | [19:11] |
evoorhees | hey got your message last night | [19:11] |
Namworld | oh | [19:11] |
evoorhees | seems fine right now but we're lookin at it | [19:11] |
maximian | great | [19:11] |
Namworld | I told you evoorhees to just keep the slice and put the next ones behind it | [19:11] |
maximian | ah yeah, working fine now | [19:12] |
Namworld | Someone ought to eat into them eventually | [19:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+] | [19:13] |
ThickAsThieves | Nam, there are no asks on BBET passthrough fyi | [19:14] |
Namworld | I need someone to sell me BBET first | [19:15] |
Namworld | no one is | [19:15] |
Namworld | and 0.002 is way too high | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld ill tell you it's suspicious as all hell, account active feb-june 2011 suddenly pops up to neg me ? | [19:16] |
Namworld | I know the guy, BitVPS client, he's an affiliate. Advertises us a lot in #bitcoin-hosting | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu | well then why is he sockpuppeting the wot ? | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu | 2013-02-10 06:46:05 / 2013-02-10 06:46:36 | [19:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062532 = 3.3142 BTC [-] | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | like hell that's a coincidence, that's the same person there. | [19:18] |
Namworld | Looks like it's for GIGA.ETF | [19:20] |
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mircea_popescu | to me it looks like it's for not having something better to do with his time. | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | i literally don't think i have ever talked to the guy, at all. | [19:22] |
pigeons | he read the post, felthe should reflect the trust in the WoT, and did | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | with both his account and his sock ? | [19:22] |
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pigeons | i'm gonna ask him about that | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | leaving aside the point about how the wot is for interaction not hearsay. | [19:23] |
pigeons | i don't think its a sock, i bet they were talking about it in the channel and someone else was upset too | [19:23] |
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pigeons | oh you had interaction with genjix and pirate? | [19:23] |
* | mircea_popescu shrug. | [19:23] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [19:23] |
mircea_popescu | dafuq did you imagine ?! | [19:23] |
pigeons | tell me about it | [19:24] |
pigeons | lets go with genjix since we've heard enough about pirate | [19:24] |
Namworld | I thought ratings were for reflecting how much trust you have for someone | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | he fakereported dtng for "child porn". i had to threaten to sue him. | [19:24] |
Namworld | regardless of interactions | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld i thought its for business rather than gossip | [19:24] |
pigeons | that's how most of us use it Namworld | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | then again i might be off base for there. | [19:24] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway : anyone want free -10s they're welcome to neg me out of the blue, i'll oblige. | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | and if there's cause for a sock war, we'll do a sock war too. | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | technology, what can you do. gotta explore it. | [19:25] |
pigeons | look at the -otc logs | [19:25] |
pigeons | its not a sock | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | i am not in otc. | [19:25] |
pigeons | people can agree without being socks | [19:25] |
mircea_popescu | this is true. | [19:25] |
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mircea_popescu | i'll happily go on what things look like from where i'm sitting rather than what things "are". | [19:26] |
pigeons | hehe ok | [19:26] |
pigeons | I knew that already though | [19:26] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [19:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3411 @ 0.0006363 = 2.1704 BTC [+] | [19:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00063891 = 6.6127 BTC [+] | [19:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 689 @ 0.0006428 = 0.4429 BTC [+] | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, i knew from the get-go that as long as the girl continues to push the wot there's sooner or later going to be some smartassery. so, whatev. | [19:27] |
mircea_popescu | color me trolled. | [19:28] |
Namworld | :;rate mircea_popescu -1 Where's my free -10 rating? I want it NAOW! | [19:28] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [19:28] |
Namworld | Hey, it's free | [19:29] |
mircea_popescu | ;:rate namworld -0x0A newb. | [19:29] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 63 @ 0.01 = 0.63 BTC [+] | [19:29] |
Namworld | Wow, it's even in fancy exadecimal. Free and luxurious. | [19:31] |
jurov | http://satoshitemple.com/index.html today it's extra lulzy | [19:31] |
Namworld | hexa* | [19:33] |
jurov | almost sounds like a bait for true satoshi to come and explicitly distance himself from that site | [19:33] |
Namworld | I think the last line is the punchline xD | [19:33] |
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mircea_popescu | kinda platitudinous neh ? | [19:34] |
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error4733 | i like the meditation space | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | hm github dead ? | [19:36] |
error4733 | http://satoshitemple.com/meditation-space.html | [19:36] |
mircea_popescu | nm false alarm | [19:36] |
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thestringpuller | github is gonna get bought out soon | [19:40] |
thestringpuller | "inside information" | [19:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/new-mpex-key/ | [19:43] |
mircea_popescu | jurov ^ | [19:43] |
jurov | hrm | [19:45] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: are we allowed to reupload keys if they expire? | [19:45] |
jurov | lookg like gpg 2.0 uses different switches | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller not rly | [19:46] |
jurov | gpg --recv-keys CFE0F3E1 instead... will go through and post a comment | [19:46] |
thestringpuller | so why do you get to have expiring keys and we don't? | [19:46] |
thestringpuller | HMMMMMM | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | they changes searchkeys ? | [19:46] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller well what'd you want, fairness ? | [19:47] |
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thestringpuller | YESSIR! | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | it's all a ploy to force ppl to buy more and more keys. | [19:47] |
thestringpuller | sounds like it | [19:47] |
jurov | aaah seems your wordpress converted -- into ndashes | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | i fixed it | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | sorry ;/ | [19:48] |
Bugpowder | googletalk forum members won't be pleased to hear this news... http://allthingsd.com/20130208/google-chairman-eric-schmidt-to-sell-up-to-42-percent-of-stake/ | [19:50] |
mircea_popescu | O MAY GAWD | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | DUMPING | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | this is too funny. ima have the girl post. | [19:51] |
jurov | evoorhees should spew stuff like "long-term strategy of individual asset diversification and liquidity" on btctalk | [19:52] |
Bugpowder | Needs to diversify into S.MPOE | [19:53] |
pigeons | allthings satoshidice wow | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder dude, if he takes half that dough and buys btc | [19:55] |
Bugpowder | Elon has got to be fucking pissed at this review | [19:56] |
Bugpowder | http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/10/automobiles/stalled-on-the-ev-highway.html?pagewanted=1&hpw | [19:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7790 @ 0.0006428 = 5.0074 BTC [+] | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | maybe the teslas just suck ? :D | [19:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00064297 = 1.6074 BTC [+] | [19:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1110 @ 0.00064304 = 0.7138 BTC [+] | [19:57] |
jurov | yea, there's funny comment below article "why they can't just add propane heating?" | [19:57] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00063456 = 11.4855 BTC [-] | [19:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00062532 = 2.5013 BTC [-] | [19:59] |
jurov | but srsly, for that price good insulation + air heat exchanged is thinkable | [19:59] |
jurov | not in california, tho | [19:59] |
jurov | *exchanger | [19:59] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 6 @ 0.081 = 0.486 BTC [-] | [20:01] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.0062 = 0.62 BTC [+] | [20:02] |
jurov | cause of this they'll fall flat in most of yurp, too | [20:02] |
mircea_popescu | Feeding the 416 horsepower motor of the top-of-the-line Model S Performance edition is a half-ton lithium-ion battery pack slung beneath the cockpit | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | srsly now... half ton battery ? | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | what if that thing catches on fire | [20:03] |
jurov | they apparently agineered battery pack to avoid fire: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/elon-musk-boeing-787-battery-fundamentally-unsafe-381627/ | [20:04] |
jurov | derp, *engineered | [20:04] |
jurov | but still, if you crash tesla in sufficient speed... remains to be seen. maybe rkoi do such experiment soon | [20:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3890 @ 0.00064304 = 2.5014 BTC [+] | [20:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4410 @ 0.00064305 = 2.8359 BTC [+] | [20:06] |
mircea_popescu | scary thing | [20:06] |
Bugpowder | According to the tesla forums, the battery drain when he parked overnight was becuase the battery pack actively heats itself during cold weather to keep the pack healthy. | [20:06] |
Bugpowder | Anyway, Tesla is an LA car | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | pretty much | [20:07] |
Bugpowder | So if I get an LA job | [20:07] |
Bugpowder | I will need an LA car | [20:07] |
Bugpowder | :) | [20:07] |
Bugpowder | Their problem is their engineers are all in LA | [20:07] |
Bugpowder | so the weather is just not on their awareness | [20:08] |
pigeons | cant get girl cause i dont have acar, cant get a car cause i dont have a job, cant get a job cause i dont have a gun now im looking for a girl with a car and a house and a job and a gun and cable in la | [20:08] |
jurov | they don't need AC in LA either? | [20:08] |
jurov | its equally power hungry | [20:08] |
mircea_popescu | in la they have lightning | [20:09] |
Bugpowder | It never goes below 0C in LA | [20:10] |
Bugpowder | A trip to Mammoth or Tahoe though... | [20:10] |
Bugpowder | could be an issue | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | Nearing New York, I made the first of several calls to Tesla officials about my creeping range anxiety. The woman who had delivered the car told me to turn off the cruise control; company executives later told me that advice was wrong. All the while, my feet were freezing and my knuckles were turning white. | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | lmo | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | the shit people do to be cool | [20:11] |
Bugpowder | what's cooler than being cool? | [20:11] |
Bugpowder | ice cold! | [20:11] |
jurov | tesla should include wire with hooks to ninja-connect to overhead wires | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i was thinking actually, having a little antenna like a trolley... | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | might work | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | make th car in the shape of a ladybug | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | all the la fags would prolly be all over it. | [20:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00064305 = 7.3951 BTC [+] | [20:12] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 2000 @ 0.0062 = 12.4 BTC [+] | [20:12] |
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jurov | should electromobiles get more popular that wouldn't be a bad business idea, selling these kits | [20:14] |
jurov | harpoon + hooked wires | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | you could have it detachable | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | only use if need be | [20:15] |
jurov | "Recharge your auto errywhere" | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | course difficult to charge for it | [20:15] |
jurov | no it won't be always attached | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | a, actually : have the wires on poles with a special ring on them, and a connector | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | the connector hooks to your car and only unhooks if you pay | [20:15] |
mircea_popescu | sort of like supermarket carts | [20:16] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 100 @ 0.0007 = 0.07 BTC | [20:16] |
jurov | just when range anxiety kicks in, you go and hook to overhead electricity | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.msg1517002#msg1517002 lmao | [20:16] |
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jurov | waiting for the first tard who tries to hook his tesla on 110kv | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | i would hope they have some hard fuse | [20:19] |
jurov | 110kv can jump over several meters... no fuse to help there | [20:19] |
mircea_popescu | this is true | [20:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8600 @ 0.00064305 = 5.5302 BTC [+] | [20:21] |
Bugpowder | this is false | [20:27] |
Bugpowder | http://www.kronjaeger.com/hv/hv/msr/spk/index.html | [20:27] |
Bugpowder | 110kV air gap crossing is a few inches tops. | [20:27] |
jurov | in dry conditions. | [20:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14200 @ 0.00064111 = 9.1038 BTC [-] | [20:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00064111 = 4.039 BTC [-] | [20:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10200 @ 0.00063324 = 6.459 BTC [-] | [20:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5131 @ 0.00062533 = 3.2086 BTC [-] | [20:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9310 @ 0.00062532 = 5.8217 BTC [-] | [20:36] |
Bugpowder | people just be hatin' on S.MPOE lately | [20:37] |
Bugpowder | wuzzupwiththat? | [20:37] |
ThickAsThieves | peeps jumping on the sdice train? | [20:39] |
Bugpowder | makes no sense | [20:39] |
Bugpowder | I would think people would jump off the S.DICE train | [20:40] |
Bugpowder | and rotate to S.MPOE | [20:40] |
jurov | they expect higher divs from s.dice | [20:40] |
jurov | and (needs analysis to confirm) s.mpoe has more early adopters that bought at lower prices than s.dice | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | seems about even | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | mpoe is like 11ish %, dice like 13 | [20:42] |
jurov | you mean PE? | [20:42] |
ThickAsThieves | looks like SDICE share price is recovering quickly | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | no i mean shares held by 3rd parties | [20:44] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1516695#msg1516695 i think teh lady doth have it. | [20:44] |
maximian | EskimoBob: lay off the gasoline | [20:48] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder how long he lasts before going the way of ciuciu | [20:50] |
cheebydi | chippewa-adm coingenuity ColdHardMetal copumpkin Cory | [20:50] |
jurov | EskimoBob, i ask you again to do something genuinely useful | [20:50] |
jurov | yourself, i mean | [20:50] |
jurov | instead of telling others what they should be doing | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | "Hitler reportedly told Goebbels in 1942 that he planned to convert Germany to vegetarianism after he had won the war." | [20:51] |
jurov | i mostly mind my own stuff.. let others decide if i;m useful | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | is there a bad idea that guy didn't have ? | [20:51] |
maximian | he's like some angry drunk, raving at everybody and nobody | [20:51] |
jurov | eskimo, you avoided answer to my inquiry | [20:52] |
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jurov | or you really think what you're doing right now is useful? | [20:53] |
maximian | EskimoBob: don't you own some s.dice shares? | [20:53] |
jurov | avoidance, again | [20:54] |
Anduck | pro people sells their s.dice shares at 0.0075 | [20:54] |
maximian | I just think it's insane that someone would sow FUD about the very stock he holds | [20:55] |
ThickAsThieves | Done, eskimobob on ignore, bleh | [20:55] |
Anduck | no | [20:55] |
Anduck | but -was- buying xD | [20:55] |
Anduck | ( i sold at that price ) | [20:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1963 @ 0.00062532 = 1.2275 BTC [-] | [20:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7887 @ 0.00062519 = 4.9309 BTC [-] | [20:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00063142 = 1.6101 BTC [+] | [20:57] |
jurov | EskimoBob, i'm still waiting | [20:57] |
jurov | for some useful thing you did. or at least advice | [20:58] |
jurov | you like commandeering ppl over, don't you | [20:58] |
jurov | ? | [20:58] |
jurov | oh just read after yourself | [20:59] |
jurov | and i won't ignore you. i'm not so easy ;) | [20:59] |
jurov | literally, i did not ever seen a sentence written by you where you weren't telling someone else whet they should be doing | [21:00] |
jurov | except when you were talking bout clay mugs workshop, maybe | [21:01] |
Bugpowder | I am less concerned about regulation with S.MPOE | [21:01] |
Bugpowder | and I am deeply concerned with S.DICE's future revenue | [21:01] |
Bugpowder | given the whale address analysis I posted. | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | think it may be out of moneyz ? | [21:02] |
Bugpowder | they are | [21:02] |
jurov | EskimoBob: URL please | [21:02] |
Bugpowder | for now | [21:02] |
Bugpowder | that's not to say more won't show up | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | but i mean... are we satisfied there's pretty much 1 person playing the high stakes ? | [21:02] |
Bugpowder | yah | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | ah, i missed thaty | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder who | [21:03] |
Bugpowder | all those addresses passed coins around between them | [21:03] |
mircea_popescu | not a mixer/exchange/something tho ? | [21:03] |
Bugpowder | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1516655#msg1516655 | [21:03] |
Bugpowder | no direct refill from one address to another | [21:03] |
Bugpowder | its all in the blockchain | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | amazed that people don't do this homework | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | it is possible EskimoBob | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | and in fact, I first proposed this | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | months ago. | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | I don't believe it to be the case | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | but it is possible | [21:04] |
Bugpowder | I believe MP still has a 100BTC reward out there for proof | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, still unclaimed. | [21:05] |
Bugpowder | and Erik will pay 50BTC if you can come up with a way to DISPROVE it with his help | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | pretty hefty sums huh | [21:05] |
Bugpowder | EskimoBob: http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-question-of-the-year-in-btc/ | [21:06] |
ThickAsThieves | up it and maybe the whale will reveal himself so he can use the winnings to bet more | [21:06] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.7167 BTC [-] | [21:07] |
Bugpowder | However, I am pretty sure the IPO withdrawl proceeds are still sitting in untouched addresses | [21:07] |
maximian | The thing is, whales really do exist… Erik recently returned from a trip to Macau, where he says he met with some gambling concerns… it seems reasonable to me that his visit sparked the interest of someone over there. | [21:07] |
Bugpowder | maybe not though | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | Bugpowder i haven't followed, but should be easy enough to see | [21:08] |
maximian | yeah, all we can do is speculate | [21:08] |
Bugpowder | yeah, weren't there 10,000BTC withdrawals from 1Fx | [21:08] |
Bugpowder | ;;ticker | [21:08] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.54300, Best ask: 23.57434, Bid-ask spread: 0.03134, Last trade: 23.54299, 24 hour volume: 53469.41322082, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.38975 | [21:08] |
evoorhees | sigh.... it's funny watching people talk about something that I know the definitive answer to, but have no way to prove it | [21:08] |
mircea_popescu | evoorhees you'll get used to it, i think this is one of the main effects of btc | [21:08] |
maximian | evoorhees: welcome to fearful investor time! | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | creates this sort of problem | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | of course, if whales really are chinese, they wouldn't be betting atm | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | it's new year's right ? | [21:09] |
Bugpowder | http://blockchain.info/address/1GvaYKp4z7V4wVzL3xC1Kvj7zrTwNAh2wM | [21:09] |
evoorhees | eskimobob - the whale/s is not me | [21:09] |
maximian | the conspiracy theories are inversely proportional to expected dividend yields :) | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | maximian yes. but also directly proportional. | [21:10] |
evoorhees | I have yet to see a sentence from you in which you refrain from calling people names | [21:10] |
evoorhees | sure it could be trendon | [21:11] |
maximian | ha, yes | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha | [21:11] |
evoorhees | you could be trendon, eskimobob | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | no, he couldn't. pirate was slimy but not stupid. | [21:11] |
Bugpowder | http://blockchain.info/address/1AB2pgzv4yZQWp1ZS5Vb8sHWGHbuXwh2An | [21:11] |
Bugpowder | http://blockchain.info/address/1BadjLJqb2CB73t3ZJ296xrwhHNhyo5JaU | [21:11] |
mircea_popescu | what's those ? | [21:12] |
evoorhees | I don't know eskimobob, but you really like to be rude and immature with people | [21:13] |
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evoorhees | you're rude to me | [21:14] |
Bugpowder | those are addresses with large withdrawls from MPEx, and where the money sits | [21:14] |
mircea_popescu | ah yes. | [21:15] |
mircea_popescu | not all of the large mpex withdrawals are erik, fwiw. | [21:15] |
evoorhees | yes you are eskimobob - in fact I think you're the only person in the entire bitcoin community who is consistently rude to me | [21:16] |
evoorhees | ? | [21:16] |
evoorhees | lol | [21:17] |
evoorhees | so for you to not be rude to someone constitutes special treatment? | [21:17] |
evoorhees | interesting | [21:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6038 @ 0.00062519 = 3.7749 BTC [-] | [21:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5612 @ 0.00062493 = 3.5071 BTC [-] | [21:18] |
jurov | EskimoBob, either you are rude to him or not... everyone can see which of that is the truth | [21:20] |
jurov | no spin ncessary | [21:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00063057 = 5.8328 BTC [+] | [21:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10400 @ 0.00063142 = 6.5668 BTC [+] | [21:20] |
jurov | oh yes, avoid the question again | [21:21] |
jurov | you can. but don't expect anyone to treat you seriously when you deny it | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [21:22] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 23.62489, Best ask: 23.68998, Bid-ask spread: 0.06509, Last trade: 23.69000, 24 hour volume: 53432.08209497, 24 hour low: 22.67000, 24 hour high: 23.98961, 24 hour vwap: 23.39005 | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | still plenty of potential upside... | [21:22] |
jurov | [21:23] | |
jurov | [21:24] | |
jurov | that denial is gaping | [21:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [X.IDIFF.MAR] 70 @ 0.0429 = 3.003 BTC [-] | [21:24] |
jurov | lmao you basically said you won't be rude to him and then said he's in bed with perverts | [21:25] |
thestringpuller | is there high school drama goin on | [21:25] |
thestringpuller | ooh ooh! an eventful sunday for once | [21:25] |
jurov | i'm hust having eskimobob here on a couch for a while | [21:25] |
jurov | *just | [21:25] |
jurov | you have no esteem for erik's own judgement | [21:27] |
jurov | and you tell it to him in a rude way | [21:27] |
jurov | you see what you want to see, indeed | [21:28] |
evoorhees | EskimoBob is probably really nice in real life. It's a shame he acts like this online | [21:28] |
mircea_popescu | evoorhees prolly has a lot to do with all the people giving him attention this way | [21:30] |
mircea_popescu | as opposed to if he simply stuck to whatever he's doing, i don't recall. | [21:30] |
thestringpuller | evoorhees: always so reasonable ;) | [21:31] |
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jurov | no just eskimo's got a fit... and i sometimes like to get trolls bored | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | ok so, the person doing farsi mpex faq wrote to express their concerns about use of terms such as "idiot". | [21:36] |
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mircea_popescu | til i'm possibly the least polite person alive. | [21:36] |
jurov | you forget the girl | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | see how impolite i am ? | [21:40] |
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jurov | mircea_popescu: |
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jurov | actually first useful idea of his, can be included right in the faq | [21:41] |
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mircea_popescu | from what i can tell iran is actualyl a merrily unstable mix of ethnic persians who resent the muslims and leading muslims who are struggling to stay in power. | [21:42] |
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mircea_popescu | sorta like india/pakistan except reversed | [21:42] |
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jurov | yes, he is not nice. but that's not a problem for me | [21:46] |
jurov | i'm curious why you are so mad | [21:47] |
jurov | so i'm making pointed inquiries | [21:47] |
jurov | what exactly he did it to you? did he sent a girl to call you idiot? puhleaze | [21:48] |
jurov | for someone who isn't mad you expend considerable energy | [21:48] |
jurov | including telling other people (that seem intelligent enough to have their own judgement) to not lay in bed with perverts | [21:49] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha this is great. so you all think evoorhees is pretty nice ? somethingawful does not! | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | "Honestly, from what I've seen of him, he's bad but he's no worse than Erik Voorhees, who posted above him. Erik says the stupidest true believer bullshit all the time. He spews Bruce-level garbage. My favorite is when, during the last crash, a distraught bitcoiner was whining about having to sell his bitcoins for less than he paid for them in order to not be living on the street. Erik told him that he didn't believe i | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | n bitcoins hard enough and that he's glad that the guy sold his bitcoins because that means that there would be more available for Erik to purchase. He said something like, "This just shows that money always flows from the weak hands to the strong hands," and that his strong hands would be ready to snatch bitcoins from unfaithful bitcoiners. It's some of the stupidest poo poo I've ever heard." | [21:50] |
mircea_popescu | basically... he's not sensitive enough for the liberal club. what now ? | [21:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7338 @ 0.00062493 = 4.5857 BTC [-] | [21:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4900 @ 0.00062423 = 3.0587 BTC [-] | [21:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8612 @ 0.0006234 = 5.3687 BTC [-] | [21:51] |
evoorhees | hehehe I remember saying that | [21:51] |
evoorhees | and I was right | [21:51] |
evoorhees | BAM $23 | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [21:51] |
mircea_popescu | its funny how them kids work, mentally. | [21:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1388 @ 0.0006234 = 0.8653 BTC [-] | [21:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8000 @ 0.00062196 = 4.9757 BTC [-] | [21:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00062161 = 3.6439 BTC [-] | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | disregard all contrary evidence, subselect some idiots off bitcvoin forum, post endlessly about how those idiots disregard all contrary evidence | [21:52] |
mircea_popescu | it could be like a political debate or something. | [21:52] |
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jurov | i'm not worried. just in mood to do some research why you do all the misguided effort | [21:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12467 @ 0.00062502 = 7.7921 BTC [+] | [22:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1033 @ 0.00062866 = 0.6494 BTC [+] | [22:00] |
jurov | and why something like mircea being pervert would have any bearing on business? | [22:01] |
jurov | me myself would be pronounced pervert in surprisingly large part of a world, cuz i'm gay | [22:01] |
thestringpuller | EskimoBob just doesn't understand history, or facts really. | [22:02] |
jurov | spammer? i didn't seen any evidence. you mean that SEO misunderstanding? | [22:02] |
thestringpuller | This hipster mentality, "we are young so we are owed the world". | [22:02] |
jurov | or that martha mcculler stuff that went nowhere? | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | what stuff is that ? | [22:03] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: something wrt polimedia.us registration | [22:04] |
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mircea_popescu | o i recall. some nitwit complained that i have no nexus, | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | neustar inquired, i showed them teh nexus. | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | great victory for interwebs day. | [22:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6488 @ 0.00062161 = 4.033 BTC [-] | [22:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2307 @ 0.00062044 = 1.4314 BTC [-] | [22:05] |
thestringpuller | !ticker m S.MPOE | [22:07] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00061978 / 0.00063368 / 0.00066091 (2909907 shares, 1,843.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00061978 / 0.00067944 / 0.0007 (20559168 shares, 13,968.81 BTC), 30D: 0.00059445 / 0.0006647 / 0.0007 (70380888 shares, 46,782.44 BTC) | [22:07] |
thestringpuller | are investors pulling out because of the trolls/naysayers? | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | o, i'm sure. | [22:08] |
Bugpowder | of S.MPOE? | [22:08] |
thestringpuller | XD | [22:08] |
Bugpowder | who knows | [22:08] |
Bugpowder | I know that I have picked up quite a bit | [22:08] |
jurov | i'd say most naysaying was around s.dice | [22:08] |
Bugpowder | in the last 24 | [22:08] |
thestringpuller | MPEX is awesome because unless you disclose yourself trading, no one really knows the investors. | [22:08] |
mircea_popescu | yup. | [22:09] |
Bugpowder | I should probably stop disclosing :-P | [22:09] |
thestringpuller | Some illuminati shit right there. | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | you could be lieing. | [22:09] |
Bugpowder | I am | [22:09] |
maximian | mircea_popescu: do keep access logs? | [22:09] |
Bugpowder | I AM LIEING | [22:09] |
maximian | do you | [22:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13719 @ 0.00062866 = 8.6246 BTC [+] | [22:09] |
mircea_popescu | maximian which kind you mean ? all signed orders are kept yes. | [22:10] |
Bugpowder | S.MPOE | [22:10] |
maximian | specifically, do your web servers retain IP addresses, browser agent strings, etc | [22:10] |
Bugpowder | ? | [22:10] |
Bugpowder | looks like its oversold | [22:10] |
Bugpowder | no, just a likely 15% return within a week. | [22:11] |
Bugpowder | ;;calc .0007/.00062 | [22:11] |
gribble | 1.12903225806 | [22:11] |
Bugpowder | 13% | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | maximian yeah, like normal apache does. the logs are purged periodically for space but the behaviour itself is not standardized. | [22:11] |
Bugpowder | that is, if the .0007 does not sell through, which it probably will. | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | the judgement is that privacy-minded users are better server by proxy/vpn/tor/etc | [22:11] |
maximian | right… I was just thinking it'd be a good idea to purge those regularly for anonymity | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | it wouldn't help you anyway, the isp prolly keeps logs i can't purge | [22:12] |
maximian | true, but sometimes I get lazy :) | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | if it's a concern you should use a proxy | [22:12] |
maximian | not a concern, just curious | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | it just didn't seem something where benefits could be obtained, so i didn't bother to specify it any particular way. | [22:12] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: why do you artifically create demand for trade data, btw (historical data). | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | i do ?! | [22:15] |
thestringpuller | i'm sure anyone with the trade data could get more for it than it's truly worth due to you sealing executed trades from your end | [22:15] |
kakobreklaa | how much u pay | [22:16] |
kakobreklaa | ill start collecting :) | [22:16] |
thestringpuller | ^- my point concisely :P | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | the idea is that someone should start a service offering all that. | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | mpex is about creating more or less the correct niching of the space | [22:17] |
mircea_popescu | i don't want to be a broker, or a data provider, or a whatever myself. rather than try and do everything i'd much rather see a lot of people each do something. | [22:18] |
mircea_popescu | certainly end up stronger that way (even if some fail along the way) | [22:18] |
thestringpuller | certainly end up stronger that way (even if some fail along the way) | [22:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4143 @ 0.00062724 = 2.5987 BTC [-] | [22:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19257 @ 0.00062866 = 12.1061 BTC [+] | [22:19] |
thestringpuller | oops | [22:19] |
thestringpuller | With that logic the data provider would have to be someone from the beta, how can I also trust their data is valid without your signature? | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | as soon as someone thinks the data is actually valuable, the service will exist | [22:20] |
mircea_popescu | before anyone thinks the data is valuable, the data is not valuable. | [22:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.00062044 = 3.5986 BTC [-] | [22:20] |
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thestringpuller | that still doesn't answer the concern of validity | [22:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7003 @ 0.00062866 = 4.4025 BTC [+] | [22:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1083 @ 0.00063142 = 0.6838 BTC [+] | [22:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00063272 = 0.5062 BTC [+] | [22:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12214 @ 0.00063409 = 7.7448 BTC [+] | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | now that's a point. | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | i guess it'd work like ripple, by consensus ? | [22:23] |
mircea_popescu | seems bulky to sign each rss item... | [22:24] |
thestringpuller | certainly, but you are the only one who can _initially_ guarentee validity of the "first copy" | [22:24] |
thestringpuller | guarantee* | [22:24] |
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mircea_popescu | what's wrong with observers guaranteeing each other what they saw, this way checking me ? | [22:26] |
mircea_popescu | bah all that nonsense eskimoblob spam drowned out freemoney joining, and i wanted to talk to him | [22:27] |
mircea_popescu | see kids, this is why you don't feed the trolls. | [22:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 158 @ 0.00627403 = 0.9913 BTC [+] | [22:27] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: believer in relativity :P | [22:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062045 = 0.6205 BTC [-] | [22:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5393 @ 0.00062044 = 3.346 BTC [-] | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | just not centralising more than's needed. | [22:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10664 @ 0.00062002 = 6.6119 BTC [-] | [22:28] |
thestringpuller | "The lightning struck at 2:00PM", says the man on the train "No it struck at 2:05" says the man standing still. | [22:28] |
mircea_popescu | "Technomadic Graphic Designer and Urban Artist accepting Bitcoins" | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | is that what they call bums now, tehcnonomadic ? | [22:30] |
jurov | yes, bums with ipads | [22:30] |
mircea_popescu | mo ipads mo problems | [22:31] |
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Lyspooner | when do you think that jgarzik spent 1299 on an avalon ASIC instead of buying 1299 worth of coins? | [22:38] |
mircea_popescu | good q. | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | seeing how no way that pos paid for itself by now. | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | what he means is, it generated 1300 dollart's worth of coins at today's price or w/e | [22:40] |
Lyspooner | well sure, but the audience soon forgets what else he could have done with that money | [22:40] |
mircea_popescu | indeed | [22:41] |
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Lyspooner | he'll probably end up ahead anyways, but just sayin | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | prolly yeah. | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | Network total 26.180 Thash/s still | [22:42] |
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Namworld | there was a bit of growth | [22:43] |
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mircea_popescu | Namworld vairance tho | [22:44] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 4 @ 0.0007 = 0.0028 BTC | [22:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00062434 = 7.055 BTC [+] | [22:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1611 @ 0.00062354 = 1.0045 BTC [-] | [22:54] |
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Namworld | yeah | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 842 @ 0.00627403 = 5.2827 BTC [+] | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 850 @ 0.00627404 = 5.3329 BTC [+] | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639156 = 6.3916 BTC [+] | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00639157 = 3.1958 BTC [+] | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.00639157 = 3.1958 BTC [+] | [23:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639158 = 6.3916 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00639999 = 6.4 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 17808 @ 0.0064 = 113.9712 BTC [+] | [23:02] |
maximian | a rare s.dice movement is spotted! | [23:02] |
Ukto | just following my prediction heh | [23:02] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [23:02] |
Ukto | only 44k left un 0.007 | [23:04] |
* | Ukto pokes DeaDTerra | [23:06] |
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Ukto | dont claim my whaleship :( | [23:06] |
Ukto | was my btc yo | [23:07] |
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Ukto | oh snap | [23:08] |
Ukto | there he is | [23:08] |
Ukto | Now you can tell him to his face. | [23:08] |
Ukto | >,> | [23:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11800 @ 0.00062378 = 7.3606 BTC [+] | [23:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 928 @ 0.00063409 = 0.5884 BTC [+] | [23:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5377 @ 0.00062354 = 3.3528 BTC [-] | [23:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00062003 = 0.62 BTC [-] | [23:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7536 @ 0.00062002 = 4.6725 BTC [-] | [23:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1487 @ 0.00061951 = 0.9212 BTC [-] | [23:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14056 @ 0.00061951 = 8.7078 BTC [-] | [23:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7144 @ 0.0006192 = 4.4236 BTC [-] | [23:11] |
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error4733 | camo ? | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | whaleship lmao | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | i spent like 10 bux on dried prunes. these things are delicious i swear. | [23:14] |
Ukto | doesnt sound like it. :P | [23:14] |
Ukto | afk | [23:14] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00062079 = 4.0351 BTC [+] | [23:14] |
Namworld | Anyone got S.BBET for sale? | [23:14] |
error4733 | you forgot "for cheap" | [23:14] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 3 @ 0.0064 = 0.0192 BTC [+] | [23:15] |
mod6 | isn't 159900 a sale? | [23:15] |
Namworld | No need for it to be cheap | [23:15] |
mod6 | its an ask at least. go nuts :) | [23:15] |
Namworld | nope... people were exiting as low as 30000 not long ago | [23:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 74 @ 0.00062079 = 0.0459 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4990 @ 0.00063409 = 3.1641 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5402 @ 0.00063466 = 3.4284 BTC [+] | [23:16] |
Namworld | 159900 is ridiculously expensive | [23:16] |
mod6 | lol then put up a bid for god sake | [23:16] |
mod6 | s/god// | [23:16] |
Namworld | I put bids for fuck sake | [23:16] |
Namworld | Why can't I ask? | [23:17] |
mod6 | ask all you like | [23:17] |
mod6 | *shrug* | [23:17] |
Namworld | just checking how much people want | [23:18] |
jurov | maybe someone can lend you (i can't, don't have any) | [23:18] |
jurov | ask smickles | [23:18] |
jurov | if you're so firmly convinced it's overpriced | [23:19] |
mod6 | !ticker m s.bbet | [23:19] |
assbot | [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.0003 / 0.00091228 / 0.0015999 (20800 shares, 18.98 BTC), 30D: 0.0003 / 0.00144935 / 0.002 (369427 shares, 535.43 BTC) | [23:19] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 3 @ 0.0063 = 0.0189 BTC [+] | [23:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] 318 @ 0.001599 = 0.5085 BTC [+] | [23:19] |
mod6 | :] | [23:20] |
Namworld | It is. Everyone was surprised it reached such high price | [23:20] |
mod6 | its a pretty big gap between .0015 and .0005, so you could bid anything in between and just see if you can get them discounted that way. | [23:21] |
jurov | maybe....until whales discover it | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | it's a humomgo gap srsly. | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | looks almost like mmorpg store pricing | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | "buy sword 1 gold, sell sword 8 gold" | [23:21] |
Ukto | https://bitfunder.com/asset/G.BBET | [23:22] |
Ukto | >,> | [23:22] |
Namworld | Those fuckin merchants | [23:22] |
jurov | ;;calc 5000*0.001150 | [23:22] |
gribble | 5.75 | [23:22] |
mod6 | Looking at the statement for jan, it had like 206 accepted. that was pretty awesome for first mo. imho! | [23:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.BBET] 182 @ 0.001599 = 0.291 BTC [+] | [23:24] |
jurov | Ukto / DeaDTerra, where did the ask vanish? | [23:25] |
jurov | almost snatched it | [23:25] |
mircea_popescu | wasn't bad for 1st month at all. | [23:25] |
mod6 | march will have some good sporting ones for sure. | [23:26] |
Ukto | ? | [23:26] |
Ukto | there is an ask up | [23:26] |
mod6 | college basketball etc.. | [23:26] |
mircea_popescu | yeah | [23:26] |
jurov | ukto, there was one for 0.001150 previously you scumbags | [23:26] |
Ukto | 0,o | [23:26] |
Ukto | dont look at me | [23:26] |
Ukto | i am not pulling the strings on that puppet | [23:27] |
Ukto | :P | [23:27] |
* | Ukto has a different collection | [23:27] |
Ukto | lo | [23:27] |
Ukto | l | [23:27] |
jurov | now it's 0.001950 . screw DeaDTerra. | [23:27] |
jurov | he really thinks someone will buy at such a price? | [23:27] |
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Ukto | hmm | [23:28] |
mircea_popescu | anything may happen on the passthroughs | [23:28] |
Ukto | cant say I wouldnt try | [23:28] |
jurov | you! | [23:28] |
mod6 | oh I also saw that some guy put a sharpie in his ass for like 10 BTC | [23:29] |
mod6 | i just about died -- it was pretty gnarly. | [23:29] |
jurov | pfft. i'm withdrawing from bf and going elsewhere atm. | [23:29] |
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Ukto | gj terra | [23:29] |
mod6 | i didn't expect balls when i opened the blog post for whatever reason lol | [23:29] |
mod6 | :3 | [23:29] |
mircea_popescu | mod6 btc rules. | [23:30] |
mod6 | haha, indeed sir. | [23:30] |
mircea_popescu | jurov moving to havelock ? | [23:30] |
Ukto | lol | [23:31] |
jurov | DeaDTerra i'll send eskimobob for you! such manipulation! | [23:31] |
Ukto | LOL | [23:31] |
Ukto | dood, thats too much | [23:31] |
Ukto | dont make horrid threats like that | [23:31] |
Ukto | :P | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | wait was it usagi who hired eskimo to threadcrap and didn't pay them or was it the other way around ? | [23:31] |
mircea_popescu | or no wait, they hired someone else ? | [23:32] |
Ukto | PsychoticBoy: i got one, how much? | [23:32] |
Ukto | :P | [23:32] |
Ukto | i figure i can buy her back cheaper later | [23:33] |
Ukto | >:P~ | [23:33] |
jurov | in fact i did more serious pricing typos myself when idiff launched... but 0.001150 seemed like completely reasonable lauch discount | [23:33] |
jurov | water under bridge. good luck deadTerra. | [23:34] |
error4733 | link for the bbet result ? | [23:36] |
Ukto | on BF? | [23:36] |
Ukto | :P | [23:36] |
mircea_popescu | http://polimedia.us/trilema/bitbet-january-2013-statement | [23:36] |
Ukto | shh | [23:36] |
error4733 | thank mp | [23:36] |
mircea_popescu | my pleasure | [23:37] |
mircea_popescu | cause i'm perverted like that. | [23:37] |
jurov | mircea_popescu at least you don't offer your mother for shorting (or you do?) | [23:38] |
mircea_popescu | my mother is tall, like me. | [23:38] |
Ukto | --- | [23:38] |
Ukto | -_- | [23:39] |
Ukto | afk, bed | [23:39] |
error4733 | i miss something ? or bbet made a wonderful 6 btc profit ? | [23:39] |
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mircea_popescu | error4733 about there. | [23:39] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.0099 = 0.0198 BTC [+] | [23:39] |
Namworld | BBET made a 6 BTC profit | [23:39] |
error4733 | 6.8 sry | [23:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1050 @ 0.0064 = 6.72 BTC [+] | [23:40] |
error4733 | so ffs why do you want buy some | [23:40] |
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Namworld | I want more at a reasonable price | [23:41] |
Namworld | at current 50000 bid, would take 735 months with such monthly profits | [23:41] |
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error4733 | still better than BFL | [23:42] |
Namworld | Still needs to be reduced by a factor 10 | [23:42] |
ThickAsThieves | bbet needs someone creating interesting bets more often | [23:42] |
ThickAsThieves | i dont think most people wanna create a bet | [23:43] |
ThickAsThieves | so much as chime in on one | [23:43] |
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ThickAsThieves | when I surf it now, i'm like meh | [23:43] |
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mod6 | and a twitter feed on new bets maybe?! :D | [23:43] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5300 @ 0.00062313 = 3.3026 BTC [-] | [23:43] |
Diablo-D3 | Namworld: your auction thread | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | error4733 if you look through it, it took ~1600 btc in bets and the profits are only on the 400 closed in jan | [23:44] |
Diablo-D3 | Namworld: post in it how much time is left to spook more bids | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | in the ~week since then it took another 800 or so | [23:44] |
Namworld | I told mircea, make it automated that sporting event gets bet | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | so it has some potential of revenue | [23:44] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld i'd so much rather have people promote selected events themselves | [23:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | whats the most popular "real" betting site? | [23:45] |
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pigeons | etrade.com | [23:45] |
error4733 | depend your country | [23:46] |
ThickAsThieves | oh i thought it was bet.com, thx pigeons | [23:46] |
error4733 | bwin n1 in EU | [23:47] |
pigeons | treasury.gov | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | actually i would guess that may be a decent way to earn a btc. | [23:48] |
error4733 | yes if you know some people from honk hong | [23:48] |
error4733 | 8M euro | [23:48] |
pigeons | honkies | [23:48] |
error4733 | earning | [23:48] |
Namworld | mircea, would be better with categories, would require op tho | [23:48] |
error4733 | the cops here just stop a big mafia on football | [23:49] |
error4733 | 400 match | [23:49] |
ThickAsThieves | it also looks bad when so many bets are for .01 btc | [23:49] |
Namworld | It could automatically create a bet for each match in certain sports and automatically attribute the winnings | [23:49] |
ThickAsThieves | need a bitbet "whale" | [23:50] |
ThickAsThieves | or "fluffer" | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | there's bets of 100s of btc | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | buncha in the double digit range too | [23:50] |
ThickAsThieves | i know, but many seem to be tiny | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | well yeah | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | nature of the beast i guess, most people bet small. | [23:50] |
mod6 | but, see, .01 is a lot!! that 1 million satoshi | [23:51] |
Namworld | and people would have categories such as NFL, NHL, etc | [23:51] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm not complaining, just thinking about user perspective | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | Namworld you could do it automatically, but i'd much rather people did it. | [23:51] |
ThickAsThieves | def need better category filtering | [23:51] |
Namworld | Seems like it would work better with categories and automated system | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | prolly need better categories sure | [23:52] |
Namworld | Might be a bit hard to find what you want otherwise | [23:53] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 7 @ 0.56 = 3.92 BTC [+] | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | tho the search works so in effect any word can be a category | [23:55] |
assbot | [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 42 @ 0.0064 = 0.2688 BTC [+] | [23:55] |
ThickAsThieves | i bet against Mila Kunis winning FHM | [23:55] |
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