Forum logs for 09 Nov 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00049009 = 8.062 BTC [-] | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | ya well.... compare who you're going after. | [00:02] |
mircea_popescu | usagi is like, the inventor of milk. | [00:02] |
mircea_popescu | but i vaguely recall you being trolled a little re arbitrage there too >D | [00:03] |
smickles | yeah, but that's nothing like, "you were both mistaken, so mircea, you lose the btc" | [00:04] |
mircea_popescu | lol the stuff people came up with in that thread i swear. | [00:04] |
smickles | also, it shouldn't matter who you are if you've defaulted on a contract, you have still defaulted on the contract | [00:04] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: well, the issue joelK raised is "legit", but the solution in that case would be to return the full amount of the principle to you | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | what issue is that ?! | [00:06] |
smickles | the common mistake thing | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | read to me like "five year olds can not enter into contracts therefore anything anyone says is invalid" sort of bs. | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | do explain. | [00:06] |
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smickles | you don't recognise this sort of thing mircea_popescu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistake_(contract_law)#Common_mistake | [00:16] |
smickles | I don't mean to suggest that it's aplicable in your case tho | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | yes, but i completely fail to see how you reason. | [00:16] |
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mircea_popescu | i mean, if me and patrick had a contract about this online currency which we both believed existed cause we read on something awful | [00:17] |
smickles | I think PH (possibly thru his own ignorrance) mislead you | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | but then it turned out it didn't exist | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | that'd be a common mistake. | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | mislead me as to what ? | [00:17] |
smickles | his pirate exposure | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | so ? | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | that's a misrepresentation of fact, not a common mistake. | [00:17] |
smickles | heh, miscommunication here | [00:18] |
thestringpuller | smickles | [00:18] |
mircea_popescu | but these distinctions are important. | [00:18] |
thestringpuller | monopoly fo sure tonight | [00:18] |
mircea_popescu | if i sell you 100 acres of land which is registered improperly and it turns out it's really 99, and i had no idea, and you had no idea then it could be argued. | [00:19] |
mircea_popescu | if i sell you 100 acres of land out of a plot of which i already sold someone an acre... | [00:19] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: i brought up the issue of common mistake because I think that, if for whatever reason the parties involved decided to declare a common mistake, JoelK's suggestion that PH return anything less than the principal is wrong | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | jk's ideas are all over the place in any event. | [00:21] |
smickles | thestringpuller, or should I say, sleeps-when-said-be-awake | [00:21] |
mircea_popescu | basically here's how that thing works : if i'm a bank and i cash a cheque drawn fraudulently by a CEO on his company | [00:21] |
mircea_popescu | i won't be held liable, if i acted in good faith. it's between the ceo and the company. | [00:22] |
smickles | i'm up for monopoly at 4 utc :) | [00:22] |
smickles | mircea_popescu: that senario seems wrong to me | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [00:25] |
pigeons | the common mistake was thinking patrick would repay | [00:25] |
smickles | that sound more like fraud, rather than a common mistake | [00:25] |
mircea_popescu | no looky, understand me : | [00:26] |
mircea_popescu | you are the ceo of widgets, inc. | [00:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18692 @ 0.00049009 = 9.1608 BTC [-] | [00:27] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11958 @ 0.00048916 = 5.8494 BTC [-] | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | one day you decide to fuck it all, leave for cuba with your secret lover. | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | you draw a 500k cheque on the company, come to my bank, cash it. | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | you get 500k in cash, board a plane and you're gone. | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | the company can't now sue me for 500k. it will have to go sue in cuba. | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | i just did what i normally do : execute what the ceo says i should. it;'s not my job to police the corporate officers of widgets, inc. | [00:28] |
dub | the argument seems to be that PH is himself a victim of his customers scams, not a scammer | [00:29] |
dub | ie, they promised not to deposti his funds in pirate | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | there's that Roswell State Bank v. Lawrence Walker Cotton Co. case on the subject. | [00:29] |
kakobrekla | but he claimed he can handle the scammers no? | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | dub that may well be true. but he can't pass it along to me. he will have to go prosecute them himself. | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla i didn't buy shares in a fund he administered (that's a diff scam he pulled). i just loaned him money. | [00:30] |
dub | yes well thats a problem with the scammer tag system | [00:30] |
dub | it seems to imply intent to scam | [00:30] |
mircea_popescu | scammer tag is only minimally relevant. the big deal here is that unlike in the pirate case, where everyone involved tried their darndest to hide the ugly truth in the hope they can offload on suckers | [00:31] |
mircea_popescu | i punctured this lie bubble. | [00:31] |
Diablo-D3 | [05:28:03] |
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mircea_popescu | in general the way this shit goes is "let's not admit that we've been scammed" | [00:32] |
Diablo-D3 | as long as you're not an executive officer | [00:32] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 in that example i was the bank. | [00:32] |
Diablo-D3 | then yes, you know nothing, legally. | [00:32] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [00:32] |
Diablo-D3 | Im not scrolling up, but how did we get to the point that this was being argued over? | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, for those interested on common mistake caselaw, bell vs lever brothers is the cannonical, lawschool textbook example. | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 the patrick hanrett scammer thread in btctalk | [00:33] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: summarize plz kthx | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | patrick harnett was hoping to get away with a soft default because he's a special snowflake, | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | it didn't work. | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | it's pretty funny because he's not going to be able to ever find work in his profession again. | [00:34] |
dub | his assertion that he would cover from private funds is key | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | well, on one avenue of inquiry yes it is. | [00:36] |
dub | if a business defaults because its debtors default the liability lies with those debtors | [00:38] |
dub | depending on its legal setup | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1323947#msg1323947 tbh that's my favourite part of it all. | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | dub depends if the business was in the business of picking debtors. | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | but the protections of "default" irl don't quite exist in bitcoin. | [00:39] |
dub | well IRL a lending business has insurance and if the insurer defaults a govt bails it out | [00:41] |
dub | so its kinda the same | [00:41] |
dub | except you got fucked directly instead of via a taxman | [00:42] |
Diablo-D3 | okay, Im on drugs | [00:42] |
Diablo-D3 | who is patrick harnett? | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 some forum banker wannabe. | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | was giving people ratings at some point. | [00:42] |
Diablo-D3 | whats his professional identity? | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | he's a private consultant, energy broker. | [00:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.srgexpert.com/patrick.html | [00:43] |
Diablo-D3 | ahh, so his name is his brand? Ive never heard of him | [00:43] |
dub | back to sleep with you | [00:43] |
mircea_popescu | considering how much he actually has at stake i am uniquely impressed with how stupid he's been. | [00:43] |
mircea_popescu | i guess people still fail to understand how deep the internet can come to bite you. | [00:44] |
Diablo-D3 | yeah really | [00:44] |
Diablo-D3 | dont fuck with the net | [00:44] |
Diablo-D3 | thats why Im just sitting back and watching nefario try to find some internet proof anal bum cover. | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | but in his case, fraud means he has to be fired (by law) | [00:44] |
mircea_popescu | and he has to disclose that on all future applications (which means he can't be hired) | [00:45] |
Diablo-D3 | wait, does fraud with bitcoins still equal fraud? | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | and quite frankly nearing 50 and trying to change careers in this economy... | [00:45] |
dub | does he have to fire himself? | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 if you think i'm not sueing him you're naive. | [00:45] |
mircea_popescu | dub yea, actually. | [00:45] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: oh, well, yeah, theres that | [00:45] |
Diablo-D3 | okay so, he fires himself... then... rehires himself? | [00:45] |
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mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 and you know what ? my jurisdiction allows me to sue him locally. i hope he speaks romanian and is versed in the law. | [00:45] |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, but isnt he american? | [00:46] |
Diablo-D3 | how do you get the money | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | nz. | [00:46] |
kakobrekla | its not money its bitcoin. | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | i don't want the money. | [00:46] |
kakobrekla | :p | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | i couldn't care less about teh 500. i want his head. | [00:46] |
Diablo-D3 | 500 btc or 500 usd/euros/whatevers? | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | 500 btc | [00:47] |
Diablo-D3 | fuck dude, thats like, more than I make in a month :< | [00:47] |
dub | 500 NZ-sheeptokens | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | Diablo-D3 well in a good month i make that every 3rd day | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | but this is besides teh point | [00:47] |
dub | Diablo-D3: you have a job now? | [00:48] |
dub | or they give you a $5k/month benefit? | [00:49] |
dub | no wonder US is fucked | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | he's a lumberjack and he's ok | [00:49] |
mircea_popescu | he works all night and he drinks all day... | [00:49] |
dub | we give them ~$1k/month | [00:49] |
dub | more when they breed | [00:50] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: I said more than. | [00:50] |
Diablo-D3 | like, a lot more than. | [00:50] |
dub | idiot | [00:50] |
dub | that expression is for use when its comparable | [00:50] |
Diablo-D3 | it is > than. | [00:51] |
mircea_popescu | why all the hate ? | [00:51] |
Diablo-D3 | ;;ticker | [00:51] |
gribble | BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.88000, Best ask: 10.96063, Bid-ask spread: 0.08063, Last trade: 10.96065, 24 hour volume: 25505.17163532, 24 hour low: 10.75000, 24 hour high: 11.07000, 24 hour vwap: 10.92276 | [00:51] |
dub | so I gues syou use that a lot anyway | [00:51] |
Diablo-D3 | ;;calc 10.88 * 500 | [00:51] |
gribble | 5440 | [00:51] |
dub | a dollar?! thats more than I make in a month | [00:51] |
Diablo-D3 | ;;calc 5440 / 844 | [00:51] |
gribble | 6.44549763033 | [00:51] |
Diablo-D3 | holy fuck, its more than I make in 6 months =/ | [00:51] |
mircea_popescu | you should go into finance. | [00:52] |
mircea_popescu | lots of money there. | [00:52] |
dub | not many people will accept that receiving an unemployment benefit == making money | [00:52] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: thank god I dont. | [00:52] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: I tried that once, but then realized I'd have to be nice to douchebags | [00:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22339 @ 0.00048916 = 10.9273 BTC [-] | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | haha that;s one way to look at it. | [00:53] |
mircea_popescu | you have to be at least as nice as my sick hound pr chick | [00:53] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: hot pr chick* ftfy | [01:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8553 @ 0.00048916 = 4.1838 BTC [-] | [01:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9863 @ 0.00048806 = 4.8137 BTC [-] | [01:18] |
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Diablo-D3 | man | [01:23] |
Diablo-D3 | whats the shortest way of converting interest per day into interest per year | [01:23] |
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mircea_popescu | diablo 1.0x ^ 365 | [01:27] |
Diablo-D3 | derp. | [01:28] |
Diablo-D3 | I fail at maths. | [01:29] |
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Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: wait, that cant be right | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | it is. what's your daily interest ? | [01:30] |
Diablo-D3 | 0.24%, which according to your math I end up with a little more than 2x than I started with | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.0024 ^ 365 | [01:32] |
gribble | Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | ;;calc 1.0024 ** 365 | [01:32] |
gribble | 2.39875650196 | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | huh | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | that's it. | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | mircea_popescu: okay so | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | according to today's fictional stock portfolio performance | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | over the next year if the s&p 500 does not move at all | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | and every day is like today | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | I could double my money | [01:32] |
Diablo-D3 | ergo, I have just proved wall street is a scam, QED | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | lol right. | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | prove global warming too, since you got the tools ready. | [01:33] |
Diablo-D3 | its snowing outside, ergo global warming is real, QED | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | "temperature somewhat measured has varied somewhat in the past 50 or so years, therefore global warming" | [01:33] |
dub | well I dont think thats what science is saying | [01:34] |
dub | but it helps the retarded to rationalise like that | [01:34] |
dub | 'LOL its colder today than it was yesterday global warming is a lie' | [01:35] |
dub | disregard 99.9% of scientists | [01:35] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: I said the exact opposite | [01:35] |
Diablo-D3 | it almost never snows this early | [01:35] |
dub | my point is superficial observations like, its cold or hot today/this year/this decade are meaningless | [01:36] |
Diablo-D3 | yeah, we really need the last million years of data | [01:36] |
Diablo-D3 | and thats hard, but not impossible, to acquire | [01:36] |
dub | well we have that | [01:37] |
Diablo-D3 | the data indicates we're overdue for an ice age | [01:37] |
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Diablo-D3 | the data also indicates it can get hotter than this and, although we're not making a real change at all,it could be the difference between survival and not | [01:38] |
dub | the data indicates undeniable human influence in atmospheric carbon levels | [01:38] |
Diablo-D3 | the world can survive an additional degree of average temp | [01:38] |
kakobrekla | lol | [01:38] |
Diablo-D3 | we cannot. | [01:38] |
Diablo-D3 | and that may be the sum total of environment change by 2050 by the human race | [01:39] |
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dub | well, no | [01:41] |
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Diablo-D3 | dub: 1 degree of global temp is quite a lot of carbon | [01:42] |
dub | but denial helps people sleep at night | [01:42] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: btw, Im not denying it | [01:42] |
midnightmagic | DENY IT DENIER! | [01:42] |
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dub | its not just about carbon | [01:43] |
Diablo-D3 | dub: 1 degree of heat, globally, would be catastrophic | [01:43] |
dub | theres rainforswt dieback, wholesale rape and poisoning of the ocean | [01:44] |
midnightmagic | the lodgepole pine is going away in ~100yrs | [01:44] |
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midnightmagic | you can rape.. the ocean?! | [01:44] |
midnightmagic | how the hell does that work.. | [01:44] |
dub | sure ask china, japan, the US | [01:44] |
dub | you kill all the fish | [01:44] |
midnightmagic | I refuse to provide evidence for your water fetish. | [01:45] |
dub | and leach too much superphosphates into the water | [01:45] |
midnightmagic | "super"phosphates? | [01:45] |
dub | yes | [01:45] |
dub | they have a little S on the front | [01:46] |
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midnightmagic | looks as though the process to create superphosphates is the more environmentally damaging.. | [01:48] |
dub | the fallout of it leaching into the water is one of the most obvious and dramatic affects of pollution | [01:49] |
midnightmagic | you mean the effects of crappy oversight in the production facilities where these chemicals are made.. | [01:49] |
dub | no, where they are used | [01:49] |
dub | runoff from farming | [01:50] |
midnightmagic | that used to be a common complaint. however, using too much so that the plants don't actually consume it, is a strong economic disincentive for its misuse. | [01:50] |
dub | it may have improved but still a major problem | [01:52] |
dub | not that its the only environmental impact of horticulture | [01:53] |
dub | s/horti/agri/ | [01:54] |
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midnightmagic | people gots ta eat | [03:37] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37397 @ 0.00048657 = 18.1963 BTC [-] | [04:16] |
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [11:25] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi | [11:25] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Thu Nov 8 15:00:02 2012 | [11:25] |
* | [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp | [11:25] |
mircea_popescu | domainforsale809 2:52 am you can purchase "mpex.cn" with a very fair price. | [11:29] |
mircea_popescu | these dudes with the .cn domains... | [11:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00049367 = 4.9861 BTC [+] | [11:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11150 @ 0.00049021 = 5.4658 BTC [-] | [11:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45072 @ 0.00049547 = 22.3318 BTC [+] | [11:57] |
Chaaang-Noi | 1.5 billion people, what a market :) | [11:58] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [11:58] |
Chaaang-Noi | lol i see joalkatz is still at it | [12:05] |
mircea_popescu | that thing still going ? | [12:06] |
Chaaang-Noi | since i saw it last atleast | [12:07] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6165 @ 0.00048974 = 3.0192 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23535 @ 0.00048891 = 11.5065 BTC [-] | [12:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43700 @ 0.00049517 = 21.6389 BTC [+] | [12:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9150 @ 0.00049517 = 4.5308 BTC [+] | [13:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18593 @ 0.00048992 = 9.1091 BTC [-] | [13:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5565 @ 0.00048891 = 2.7208 BTC [-] | [13:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00048824 = 7.6165 BTC [-] | [14:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7250 @ 0.00048797 = 3.5378 BTC [-] | [14:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00339943 = 1.0198 BTC [+] | [14:13] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24426 @ 0.00048797 = 11.9192 BTC [-] | [14:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9569 @ 0.00048566 = 4.6473 BTC [-] | [14:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 418 @ 0.00048434 = 0.2025 BTC [-] | [14:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00048434 = 7.5073 BTC [-] | [15:04] |
kakobrekla | ;;bc,stats | [15:11] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 207185 | Current Difficulty: 3304356.3929903 | Next Difficulty At Block: 207647 | Next Difficulty In: 462 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3384633.63150263 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.42943644586 | [15:11] |
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Chaang-Noi | when is halving day? | [15:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11282 @ 0.00048434 = 5.4643 BTC [-] | [15:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9269 @ 0.00048328 = 4.4795 BTC [-] | [15:30] |
jurov | between 29 Nov 9:15 UTC (-2%) and 27 Nov 16:15 UTC (10%) | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | prolly on the 25th | [15:34] |
jurov | that only if bfl ships/mines. | [15:43] |
Chaaang-Noi | i expect huge difficulty rise for many alt coins lol | [15:45] |
Chaaang-Noi | gpu miners are going to get killed | [15:45] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31155 @ 0.00048558 = 15.1282 BTC [+] | [15:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00048328 = 2.7064 BTC [-] | [16:21] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14792 @ 0.00048558 = 7.1827 BTC [+] | [16:46] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12155 @ 0.00048328 = 5.8743 BTC [-] | [17:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7445 @ 0.00048289 = 3.5951 BTC [-] | [17:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11955 @ 0.00048289 = 5.7729 BTC [-] | [17:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20045 @ 0.00048256 = 9.6729 BTC [-] | [17:37] |
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Chaang-Noi | am i doing this right? http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352469351413.jpg | [17:41] |
Chaang-Noi | :) | [17:41] |
copumpkin | yep | [17:41] |
Chaang-Noi | http://images.4chan.org/g/src/1352472748203.jpg | [17:42] |
Chaang-Noi | oh lol | [17:42] |
copumpkin | I hate it when my mobo gets dirty too | [17:43] |
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Chaang-Noi | :) | [17:43] |
Chaang-Noi | http://wikispeed.com/ what is this and why do they take btc? | [17:46] |
pigeons | its a car they build like "agile" software, they keep making new revs. they take btc cause they are "disruptive" like that ;) | [17:48] |
Chaang-Noi | :) | [17:48] |
Chaang-Noi | someone on 4chan said they found it on bitcoinfriday.com a site i dont know about | [17:49] |
Chaang-Noi | however that site wont load for me :/ | [17:49] |
Chaang-Noi | i guess bitcoin friday is a meme or something on /g/ | [17:49] |
Chaang-Noi | not sure... | [17:49] |
Chaang-Noi | loading now | [17:53] |
Chaang-Noi | intersting site | [17:53] |
Chaang-Noi | odd i heard about it on 4chan and not the forum or irc | [17:54] |
Chaang-Noi | thats good | [17:54] |
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mircea_popescu | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.msg1325789#msg1325789 << first ever claim for bitcointalk legal expenses ? | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | btw https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=123492.0 | [18:01] |
kakobrekla | these things keep popin up! | [18:02] |
kakobrekla | :) | [18:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7203 @ 0.00048558 = 3.4976 BTC [+] | [18:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18397 @ 0.00048841 = 8.9853 BTC [+] | [18:02] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [18:02] |
mircea_popescu | ofcourse. the word got out bitcoin has gathered a large collection of suckers. | [18:02] |
Chaang-Noi | bitcointalk legal expenses ? | [18:09] |
Chaang-Noi | where do you see that? | [18:09] |
Chaang-Noi | is your link correct? | [18:10] |
Enky | i'm looking | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | For the record, the sought compensation is detailed below: | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | 500 BTC capital | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | + 1% per week until the date of full repayment. Currently this is 14 weeks (since August the 10th), or 74.7371065 BTC | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | + .01 BTC per word of my posts in this thread. Currently this is 3935 words = 39.35 BTC | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | + Treble damages (punitive). | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | Total sought (if discharged today): 1842.2613195 BTC. | [18:10] |
Enky | legal expenses of what? | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | that 0,01 btc per word is a fine precedent. | [18:10] |
mircea_popescu | enky for prosecuting a claim in bitcoincourt. | [18:11] |
Chaang-Noi | oh, i did not understand you, i thought the forum was under attack or something | [18:11] |
mircea_popescu | a no | [18:12] |
mircea_popescu | just drama as per ususal. | [18:12] |
Chaang-Noi | joel is lol | [18:12] |
mircea_popescu | that thread really delivers. | [18:12] |
Chaang-Noi | he is the only one in the world who would agree with his points on this | [18:12] |
Chaang-Noi | i hope he is neer a jeduge in real life | [18:12] |
Chaang-Noi | judge* | [18:13] |
mircea_popescu | i think he's something like unemployed overqualified california type. | [18:13] |
Chaang-Noi | he is well known for something | [18:14] |
Chaang-Noi | but yeah i think you are right | [18:14] |
mircea_popescu | certanly nothing in the legal profession, way too clueless for that. | [18:14] |
mircea_popescu | i mean its not even about agreeing or not, it's like, you never heard of san francisco | [18:15] |
mircea_popescu | well, if you never heard of san francisco you're not from the us | [18:15] |
mircea_popescu | irrespective if you like obama or romney or ron paul | [18:15] |
Chaang-Noi | he did something with encryption i think | [18:16] |
Chaang-Noi | iv been to sf, i dont follow | [18:16] |
mircea_popescu | suppose someone says "i'm from the us" | [18:16] |
mircea_popescu | and someone else says "no you're not". | [18:17] |
mircea_popescu | now, if these two are maybe having an argument about politics, i could see it as a thing you say, you know ? | [18:17] |
mircea_popescu | but if the first person literally has no idea sf exists... then that's that. they're not from the us. | [18:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35350 @ 0.00048256 = 17.0585 BTC [-] | [18:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10928 @ 0.00048224 = 5.2699 BTC [-] | [18:28] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11429 @ 0.00048841 = 5.582 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27150 @ 0.0004895 = 13.2899 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8457 @ 0.00048955 = 4.1401 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00048998 = 22.2941 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26350 @ 0.00049175 = 12.9576 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36650 @ 0.00049437 = 18.1187 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9628 @ 0.00049547 = 4.7704 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41322 @ 0.00049748 = 20.5569 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3538 @ 0.00050001 = 1.769 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34392 @ 0.00050042 = 17.2104 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32950 @ 0.00050288 = 16.5699 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19470 @ 0.00050304 = 9.7942 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4155 @ 0.00050449 = 2.0962 BTC [+] | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29009 @ 0.00050518 = 14.6548 BTC [+] | [18:53] |
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mircea_popescu | I am inclined to assume that MPOE-PR is a minion acting in behalf of Mircea Popescu. | [19:18] |
mircea_popescu | lmao this is the discovery of the century. | [19:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57207 @ 0.0005 = 28.6035 BTC [-] | [19:18] |
pigeons | shill | [19:22] |
pigeons | she should at least disclose | [19:22] |
mircea_popescu | that guy should be on retainer. | [19:22] |
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Chaang-Noi | did joel say that? | [19:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22074 @ 0.00050379 = 11.1207 BTC [+] | [19:45] |
mircea_popescu | Chaaang-Noi no, the other guy | [19:53] |
Chaang-Noi | ahh | [19:54] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13476 @ 0.00050379 = 6.7891 BTC [+] | [20:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4668 @ 0.00050301 = 2.3481 BTC [-] | [20:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1491 @ 0.00050518 = 0.7532 BTC [+] | [20:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9941 @ 0.00050575 = 5.0277 BTC [+] | [20:36] |
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smickles | OMG, so many more pixels | [21:00] |
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mod6 | :D | [21:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00050449 = 7.9457 BTC [-] | [21:02] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [21:04] |
smickles | it's like i was one of those just-bearly-legally-blind people before, and just had laser eye surgery | [21:05] |
mircea_popescu | lol! | [21:05] |
smickles | holy shit, i don't need to have my browser window maximized! | [21:06] |
mod6 | next, check out some pr0n and see how much better pussy looks in HD | [21:09] |
mod6 | =) | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha | [21:09] |
mircea_popescu | why not irl | [21:10] |
mod6 | remember all of the pr0n from like 94 on the tubes and how pixelated it was lol? | [21:11] |
mod6 | good times | [21:11] |
kakobrekla | i dont reccomend hd porn, you end up on wiki researching all sorts of std | [21:11] |
mod6 | ahh, i see your point kakobrekla | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | i remember ascii porn | [21:12] |
mod6 | haha ( . Y . ) | [21:13] |
kakobrekla | too bad (_|_)bot is erroneous nick | [21:14] |
mod6 | awe | [21:15] |
kuzetsa | /nick {_|_}bot | [21:21] |
kuzetsa | try like that :P | [21:21] |
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kakobrekla | that could be easily interpreted as two boobs | [21:34] |
kuzetsa | not really | [21:35] |
kuzetsa | it's a butt | [21:35] |
mircea_popescu | i thought it was a biscuit | [21:38] |
kakobrekla | kuzetsa, imagine this woman lies down on the floor naked and you look from top http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-FI21JCXFOXg/UFoMH7IBZ4I/AAAAAAAADhM/zxwOLirnH3k/s400/big-boobs-2.jpg | [21:40] |
kakobrekla | you will see {_|_} | [21:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5600 @ 0.00050301 = 2.8169 BTC [-] | [21:56] |
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thestringpuller | smickles: 400 utc i will be awake i promise! | [22:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17830 @ 0.00050301 = 8.9687 BTC [-] | [22:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12270 @ 0.0005 = 6.135 BTC [-] | [22:05] |
smickles | heh, ok, I'll be sure to be there :) | [22:05] |
thestringpuller | do you know of nate silver? | [22:08] |
copumpkin | who doesn't! | [22:09] |
copumpkin | everyone is talking about him these days (for the wrong reasons, probably) | [22:09] |
thestringpuller | i read his book recently | [22:10] |
thestringpuller | we make a lot of bad predictions | [22:10] |
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smickles | ;;lucky "nate silver" | [22:13] |
gribble | http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/author/nate-silver/ | [22:14] |
smickles | hmm, i wonder how much of the information in his book is on lesswrong.com, and whether it would be worth buying since that site is free to use | [22:19] |
mircea_popescu | it's a good idea to spend ten bux or w/e to support an author you like | [22:22] |
mircea_popescu | mostly because if you don't, there won't be any. | [22:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.0005 = 7.5 BTC [-] | [22:23] |
smickles | while I agree, I dunno if I like nate silver or not | [22:23] |
smickles | and it's not like that site replicates the content of the book | [22:24] |
smickles | they seem to have a similar topic of discussion | [22:24] |
mircea_popescu | well if you don't know find out lol | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | if you care, obviously. | [22:25] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35523 @ 0.0005 = 17.7615 BTC [-] | [22:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29276 @ 0.00049989 = 14.6348 BTC [-] | [23:14] |
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BTC-Mining | Large deposit on my account Mircea. Technically just in, but would appreciate being able to place orders right away =P | [23:57] |
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