Forum logs for 09 May 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 36 @ 0.013 = 0.468 BTC [-]	[00:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.01309 = 1.309 BTC [+]	[00:05]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0131 = 0.0262 BTC [+]	[00:06]
*	jurov (~juro@84.245.71.31) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4339 BTC [+]	[00:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [-]	[00:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [-]	[00:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 60 @ 0.0131 = 0.786 BTC [+]	[00:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.379 = 5.516 BTC [+]	[00:08]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19979 BTC [-]	[00:09]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [-]	[00:09]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.013285 = 0.5314 BTC [+]	[00:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.01 BTC [+]	[00:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 17 @ 0.01333 = 0.2266 BTC [+]	[00:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0129 = 0.129 BTC	[00:15]
topace	^whoop	[00:15]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.35 = 2.7 BTC [-]	[00:16]
ThickAsThieves	The TAT Investments Empire has grown!	[00:17]
dub	what dat is?	[00:18]
ThickAsThieves	You can now get ASICMINER shares at https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=ASICM	[00:18]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 90 @ 0.0129 = 1.161 BTC	[00:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.012925 = 1.2925 BTC [+]	[00:21]
ThickAsThieves	Official forum thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199449.0	[00:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01295 = 1.295 BTC [+]	[00:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.012975 = 1.2975 BTC [+]	[00:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.013 = 0.65 BTC [+]	[00:22]
parseval	Nice	[00:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.013 = 0.39 BTC [+]	[00:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.013 = 0.13 BTC [+]	[00:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.01333 = 0.16 BTC [+]	[00:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.331 BTC [-]	[00:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 41 @ 0.01333 = 0.5465 BTC [+]	[00:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.315 BTC [-]	[00:26]
mod6	Just lookin at the stuff listed on other sites... I guess they didn't get the memo on PGP contracts.	[00:28]
mod6	I really like those. :]	[00:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.01333 = 0.04 BTC [+]	[00:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 155 @ 0.013 = 2.015 BTC [+]	[00:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.013 = 0.065 BTC [+]	[00:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01333 BTC [+]	[00:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.01305 = 3.2625 BTC [+]	[00:34]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 18 @ 0.01333 = 0.2399 BTC [+]	[00:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0131 = 0.1179 BTC [+]	[00:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 91 @ 0.0131 = 1.1921 BTC [+]	[00:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01333 = 0.0533 BTC [+]	[00:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 91 @ 0.01315 = 1.1967 BTC [+]	[00:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3748 BTC [+]	[00:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.01315 = 0.1184 BTC [+]	[00:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0132 = 1.32 BTC [+]	[00:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.375 = 2.75 BTC [+]	[00:41]
*	Namworld (~Namworld@modemcable075.132-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.375 = 6.875 BTC [+]	[00:42]
*	aneeshmehta (~DeskTrade@107-202-137-146.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[00:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.375 BTC [+]	[00:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0133 = 1.33 BTC [+]	[00:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.01335 = 3.3375 BTC [+]	[00:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.013375 = 0.6688 BTC [+]	[00:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.375 BTC [+]	[00:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.37795 BTC [+]	[00:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.36 BTC [-]	[00:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.013375 = 2.675 BTC [+]	[00:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0134 = 1.34 BTC [+]	[00:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0134 = 1.34 BTC [+]	[00:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0134 = 0.67 BTC [+]	[00:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.0134125 = 3.3531 BTC [+]	[00:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.013425 = 2.685 BTC [+]	[00:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 200 @ 0.0131 = 2.62 BTC [-]	[00:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.377 = 4.131 BTC [+]	[00:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.013425 = 0.3356 BTC [+]	[00:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.013425 = 0.1611 BTC [+]	[00:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4449 = 1.3347 BTC [-]	[00:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.377 = 2.754 BTC [+]	[00:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.013425 = 0.1745 BTC [+]	[00:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 86 @ 0.01345 = 1.1567 BTC [+]	[00:53]
benkay	havelock's got some volume today	[00:53]
topace	ASICM was just added half an hour ago	[00:53]
topace	to havelock	[00:53]
topace	!ticker h asicm	[00:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:ASICM] 1D: 0.01290000 / 0.01322367 / 0.01345000 (2646 shares, 34.98982500 BTC), 7D: 0.01290000 / 0.01322367 / 0.01345000 (2646 shares, 34.98982500 BTC), 30D: 0.01290000 / 0.01322367 / 0.01345000 (2646 shares, 34.98982500 BTC)	[00:54]
jborkl	you are going to sell out soon at this rate	[00:54]
benkay	that'd ASICplain things	[00:54]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[00:54]
topace	jborkl: yea tell ThickAsThieves to add more! he's running it :p	[00:54]
ThickAsThieves	shoot	[00:54]
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topace	and thats without any sort of announcement going out to current havelock customers :p	[00:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.4449 = 2.2245 BTC [-]	[00:56]
ThickAsThieves	I have more to sell no worried	[00:56]
ThickAsThieves	worries*	[00:56]
ThickAsThieves	at least for now...	[00:56]
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jborkl	I have a decent amount, but I dont want to sell yet	[00:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 164 @ 0.01345 = 2.2058 BTC [+]	[00:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.010069 BTC [+]	[00:59]
*	LoweryCBS (LoweryCBS@user-24-236-125-60.knology.net) has left #bitcoin-assets	[01:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.4449 = 0.8898 BTC [-]	[01:02]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 49 @ 0.013475 = 0.6603 BTC [+]	[01:03]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10912 @ 0.000725 = 7.9112 BTC [+]	[01:06]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.013455 = 0.2556 BTC [-]	[01:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01345 = 1.345 BTC [-]	[01:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 201 @ 0.013475 = 2.7085 BTC [+]	[01:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.01348 = 3.37 BTC [+]	[01:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.0135 = 3.375 BTC [+]	[01:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.013525 = 3.3813 BTC [+]	[01:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.013555 = 3.3888 BTC [+]	[01:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 49 @ 0.013555 = 0.6642 BTC [+]	[01:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.013575 = 1.3575 BTC [+]	[01:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.4449 = 1.3347 BTC [-]	[01:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0136 = 0.408 BTC [+]	[01:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0136 = 0.68 BTC [+]	[01:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.P320T] 400 @ 1.84112938 = 736.4518 BTC [-]	[01:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 7 @ 0.0136 = 0.0952 BTC [+]	[01:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3768 BTC [-]	[01:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0136 = 0.1768 BTC [+]	[01:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01365 = 1.365 BTC [+]	[01:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 87 @ 0.0137 = 1.1919 BTC [+]	[01:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 13 @ 0.0137 = 0.1781 BTC [+]	[01:36]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.01375 = 0.4813 BTC [+]	[01:38]
pgp	quiet in here	[01:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.377 = 4.131 BTC [+]	[01:38]
ThickAsThieves	busy, but here	[01:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0137 BTC [-]	[01:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01375 = 1.375 BTC [+]	[01:39]
mircea_popescu	everyone's watching :D	[01:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.013825 = 0.1383 BTC [+]	[01:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 40 @ 0.013825 = 0.553 BTC [+]	[01:41]
dub	can't shake the feeling that AM is going to be the next pirate level event	[01:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 90 @ 0.0139 = 1.251 BTC [+]	[01:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.0139 = 0.1251 BTC [+]	[01:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0139 BTC [+]	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	i sure hope not	[01:42]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[01:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.013975 = 0.6988 BTC [+]	[01:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 52 @ 0.014 = 0.728 BTC [+]	[01:44]
Diablo-D3	dub: that would be hilarious wouldnt it	[01:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2 BTC [-]	[01:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 142 @ 0.014 = 1.988 BTC [+]	[01:46]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.377 = 2.754 BTC [+]	[01:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.37797 BTC [+]	[01:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.378 = 13.78 BTC [+]	[01:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.3877 = 6.9385 BTC [+]	[01:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.387979 = 6.9399 BTC [+]	[01:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.38798 BTC [+]	[01:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.387979 BTC [-]	[01:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 56 @ 0.014 = 0.784 BTC [+]	[01:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.388 = 5.552 BTC [+]	[01:52]
mircea_popescu	dub possibly. not quite the size tho	[01:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.42 BTC [-]	[01:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 132 @ 0.00308 = 0.4066 BTC [+]	[01:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 26 @ 1.388 = 36.088 BTC [+]	[01:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.388 BTC [+]	[01:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 24 @ 0.014 = 0.336 BTC [+]	[01:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00114 BTC [+]	[01:54]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 99 @ 0.00115 = 0.1139 BTC [+]	[01:54]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 399 @ 0.01375 = 5.4863 BTC [-]	[01:55]
dub	mircea_popescu: no but possibly bigger impact given bitcoin is no longer a toy for nerds	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	maybe. tbh i think lower impact exactly for that reason	[01:55]
mircea_popescu	(you won't get anyone but nerds in the sort of groupthink traps that this sort of stuff is dangertous for)	[01:55]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 100 @ 0.00119 = 0.119 BTC [+]	[01:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 120 @ 0.0013 = 0.156 BTC [+]	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.355 = 2.71 BTC [-]	[01:56]
mircea_popescu	well... nerds and weird religious groups	[01:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [-]	[01:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.35 BTC [-]	[01:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 21 @ 0.0013 = 0.0273 BTC [+]	[01:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 74 @ 0.00309 = 0.2287 BTC [+]	[01:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 70 @ 0.00314 = 0.2198 BTC [+]	[01:59]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.38 = 2.76 BTC [+]	[02:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 40 @ 0.013339 = 0.5336 BTC [+]	[02:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 300 @ 0.01352 = 4.056 BTC [-]	[02:02]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.38 BTC [+]	[02:04]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 20 @ 0.0194 = 0.388 BTC [+]	[02:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.384 = 2.768 BTC [+]	[02:05]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.38 = 4.14 BTC [-]	[02:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.013339 = 0.0267 BTC [+]	[02:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.014 = 1.4 BTC [+]	[02:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.38 BTC [-]	[02:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.385 = 13.85 BTC [+]	[02:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.388 = 9.716 BTC [+]	[02:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.389 = 13.89 BTC [+]	[02:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.37999 BTC [-]	[02:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.39 BTC [+]	[02:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.39 = 27.8 BTC [+]	[02:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.3925 = 27.85 BTC [+]	[02:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.013339 = 1.0671 BTC [+]	[02:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 75 @ 0.01345 = 1.0088 BTC [+]	[02:21]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.0135 = 0.675 BTC [+]	[02:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.39888 BTC [+]	[02:25]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11681 @ 0.000725 = 8.4687 BTC [+]	[02:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.01365 = 0.6825 BTC [+]	[02:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.39899 BTC [+]	[02:30]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.39899 = 2.798 BTC [+]	[02:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.0137 = 1.37 BTC [+]	[02:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.01375 = 0.275 BTC [+]	[02:33]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.01375 = 1.1 BTC [+]	[02:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.399 = 6.995 BTC [+]	[02:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 100 @ 0.013899 = 1.3899 BTC [+]	[02:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.399 BTC [+]	[02:34]
ThickAsThieves	I'm kinda surprised that shares aren't selling better on Bitfunder	[02:35]
ThickAsThieves	they used to have the highest AM volume til this week	[02:35]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 150 @ 0.013899 = 2.0849 BTC [+]	[02:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 72 @ 0.01395 = 1.0044 BTC [+]	[02:38]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.399 = 5.596 BTC [+]	[02:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 28 @ 0.01395 = 0.3906 BTC [+]	[02:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]	[02:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]	[02:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 38 @ 1.4 = 53.2 BTC [+]	[02:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [+]	[02:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [+]	[02:42]
benkay	how does the shmarbitrage on asicminer look across btctc and havelock and all dem?	[02:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 20 @ 0.014 = 0.28 BTC [+]	[02:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 50 @ 0.014 = 0.7 BTC [+]	[02:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.485 BTC [+]	[02:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.01425 BTC [+]	[02:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.01425 = 0.2708 BTC [+]	[02:46]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2013/05/08/world/europe/ap-eu-belgium-diamond-heist.html	[02:48]
mircea_popescu	check it out, they caught the ocean eleven ppls.	[02:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 15 @ 0.0145 = 0.2175 BTC [+]	[02:48]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 19 @ 0.0147 = 0.2793 BTC [+]	[02:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 29 @ 0.0147 = 0.4263 BTC [+]	[02:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.489 = 11.912 BTC [+]	[02:50]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 1.489 = 28.291 BTC [+]	[02:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 95 @ 0.015 = 1.425 BTC [+]	[02:53]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [-]	[02:56]
toffoo	mircea_popescu i recently finished a book called 'Flawless' about another belgian diamond heist .. which i think they got away with	[03:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4 = 5.6 BTC [-]	[03:01]
mircea_popescu	ah ?	[03:01]
toffoo	when you first posted that i thought it might be the same	[03:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4 BTC [-]	[03:01]
toffoo	but no, the book was about an older one where they robbed the antwerp diamond center	[03:02]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [+]	[03:03]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.41 = 4.23 BTC [+]	[03:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.41 BTC [+]	[03:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.401 = 5.604 BTC [-]	[03:05]
inhies	the antwerp heist was awesome	[03:08]
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inhies	too bad homie didnt take out the trash correctly	[03:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.401 = 2.802 BTC [-]	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	ah i think i remember that one	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	snatch is sort of loosely inspiredby it i think	[03:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.014 = 0.042 BTC [-]	[03:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.401 BTC [-]	[03:13]
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inhies	damn you bitcoin network	[03:18]
inhies	accept my transaction	[03:18]
inhies	i gave you a whole 0.0001 for it!	[03:18]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.380001 BTC [-]	[03:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3605 BTC [-]	[03:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3605 BTC [-]	[03:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.3601 BTC [-]	[03:22]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [+]	[03:23]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.36 = 13.6 BTC [-]	[03:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.365 BTC [+]	[03:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.360001 BTC [-]	[03:23]
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dub	inhies: needs >=0.001 iirc	[03:30]
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dub	dice spam has 0.001 anyway	[03:31]
inhies	hrm, maybe my dumbass thought there was an extra zero in there	[03:31]
inhies	ah well	[03:31]
inhies	nope	[03:31]
inhies	been using 0.0001 for awhile now	[03:31]
KRS1	market price gonna drop i think	[03:31]
inhies	yup	[03:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.400949 BTC [+]	[03:32]
dub	jesus	[03:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 125 @ 0.014 = 1.75 BTC [+]	[03:34]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.01398 = 0.0839 BTC [-]	[03:34]
dub	!ticket bt asicminer-pt	[03:34]
dub	!ticker bt asicminer-pt	[03:34]
assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1.24 / 1.34552 / 1.489 (738 shares, 993 BTC), 7D: 1.12 / 1.28986 / 1.489 (1880 shares, 2424.9 BTC), 30D: 0.6269 / 1.11074 / 1.75 (7503 shares, 8333.9 BTC)	[03:34]
pgp	i agree - price is rolling over - we'll retest 100 i think	[03:36]
mircea_popescu	dude this is insane	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	whenever this guy sells puts the price drops	[03:44]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[03:44]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[03:44]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 112.04981, Best ask: 112.05525, Bid-ask spread: 0.00544, Last trade: 112.04980, 24 hour volume: 62523.10961762, 24 hour low: 109.50000, 24 hour high: 116.77700, 24 hour vwap: 113.32966	[03:44]
ThickAsThieves	it wont break 100	[03:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.388 BTC [-]	[03:45]
KRS1	nope	[03:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.014 = 0.28 BTC [+]	[03:46]
pgp	I tend to agree that 100 will likely hold, but chart say to me "retest"	[03:48]
mircea_popescu	well, if it goes to 80 i stand to make what, 10k or so ?	[03:49]
pgp	lol	[03:49]
KRS1	nice	[03:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.014 = 0.056 BTC [+]	[03:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 96 @ 0.0141 = 1.3536 BTC [+]	[03:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.014 = 0.042 BTC [-]	[03:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 3 @ 0.0141 = 0.0423 BTC [+]	[03:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00071284 = 3.0802 BTC [-]	[03:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13229 @ 0.00071311 = 9.4337 BTC [+]	[03:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.0141 BTC [+]	[03:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 97 @ 0.0141 = 1.3677 BTC [+]	[03:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.014 = 0.028 BTC [-]	[03:59]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00071309 = 1.8184 BTC [-]	[03:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01405 = 0.7025 BTC [+]	[04:00]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what's your take on this abomination: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196138.0	[04:00]
asciilifeform	seems like the "official" dev team has declared war on SDICE.	[04:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 97 @ 0.0141 = 1.3677 BTC [+]	[04:02]
dub	how does it affect dice?	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	ya srsly.	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	been discussed before : they have no options	[04:02]
asciilifeform	how's that?	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	not enough full nodes running, and there's no relay tx fee so there's no way to limit uneconomic mempool use	[04:02]
dub	I thought it just discouraged people from sending amounts that are too small to be relayed anyway	[04:02]
mircea_popescu	lemme find the chat	[04:02]
dub	ie, protects noobs from long txn delays	[04:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0142 = 0.284 BTC [+]	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	May 05 22:22:16 im not sure why they're not just letting the tx fee decide	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	May 05 22:22:19 but whatever.	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	May 05 22:22:42 ah, actually, there is a reason	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	May 05 22:22:49 we are choked by nonadoption/node death	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	May 05 22:23:07 consequently there's no way to outcompete dust txs, cause you don't pay a fee to be relayed	[04:04]
mircea_popescu	May 05 22:23:44 tbh the no-relay-fee is probably the grossest fundamental oversight in the design of bitcoin	[04:04]
asciilifeform	almost seems like this is a deliberate ploy to prolong the life of litecoin.	[04:04]
asciilifeform	one could easily add relay fees without breaking the protocol.	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	perhaps.	[04:05]
mircea_popescu	depend a lot on the definitions of one and easily.	[04:05]
asciilifeform	well, say, I (or another literate person) could do so	[04:06]
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asciilifeform	but who exactly would use my fork	[04:06]
mircea_popescu	so this definition of one isn't very good :)	[04:07]
asciilifeform	the devs' decision bothers me for "meta" reasons. that is, the dev team has enough influence that it could add all kinds of vaguely questionable things and they will come into use on the majority of the network.	[04:08]
pgp	i agree with mp - no fee for relay is a fundemental problem with bitcoin	[04:08]
asciilifeform	pgp: "fundamental" problem implies that it could not be dealt with other than by breaking the protocol, no?	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	no	[04:09]
mircea_popescu	fundamental simply means that it was there at the time of its birth	[04:09]
pgp	well, I suppose it could be reticified, but not easily...	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	you're thinking insoluble/irresolvable/etc	[04:10]
pgp	rectified	[04:10]
asciilifeform	pgp: just run a node that demands to be paid X satoshi before it relays transactions <=Y satoshi.	[04:10]
mircea_popescu	the accounting for this is nontrivial.	[04:12]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: unrelated thought: do you suppose there could be a market for a hardware implementation of Bitcoin?	[04:12]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[04:13]
asciilifeform	that is to say, a box that implements a full node, from scratch, with no unix/c/c++/code written by anyone in the past on it. with complete docs under NDA.	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	however, the asic production is the gateway to thgat.	[04:13]
mircea_popescu	considering how poorly that fares yet, too soon.	[04:13]
pgp	but that requires a transaction to specify me as an output - what we need is a generalized method of paying a node operator who identity is not known at the time the transaction is submitted...	[04:13]
asciilifeform	I'm thinking of a node (not a miner, note) written for a custom architecture, running on an fpga (of the client's choice)	[04:14]
asciilifeform	the only peripheral needed is an ethernet controller	[04:14]
asciilifeform	and so, one can use any of a thousand commercial fpga dev boards	[04:14]
dub	why	[04:15]
asciilifeform	the objective would be: serious security.	[04:15]
asciilifeform	of the military kind	[04:15]
pgp	?	[04:15]
asciilifeform	a system which includes consumer PC components or traditional software is insecure from birth.	[04:16]
asciilifeform	note the existence of China's "Dragon" CPU effort, or the Russian equivalent	[04:16]
mircea_popescu	i don't imagine bitcoin banks would work any other way once we're mature.	[04:17]
dub	so secure like SCADA? ;)	[04:17]
asciilifeform	you don't want x86, unix, etc. (much less microcrap) in a ballistic missile. esp. one aimed at the U.S.	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	nobody could sleep otherwise.	[04:17]
asciilifeform	secure like a Russian ICBM. not like the idiot western SCADAs.	[04:17]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform actually the russians were reusing linux for that purpose	[04:18]
asciilifeform	they are trying to phase out even linux	[04:18]
asciilifeform	to understand why one might want to do this, see: http://underhanded.xcott.com/	[04:18]
dub	I don't see what you are solving	[04:18]
asciilifeform	dub: solving this: http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/ken/trust.html	[04:19]
dub	yeah but why is a PGA more trustable	[04:19]
asciilifeform	and this: http://it.slashdot.org/story/10/03/27/2145255/remote-malware-injection-via-flaw-in-network-card	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	unchangeable dub.	[04:19]
pgp	noted... have you been reading about all sorts of "counterfeit" chips coming out of china with built in backdoors. Just because its hardware, doesn't mean it can be blindly trusted...	[04:19]
mircea_popescu	once it's burned, it's burned.	[04:20]
dub	well, no	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	pgp this is true of course.	[04:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.4 = 4.2 BTC [+]	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform will want his very own foundry.	[04:20]
pgp	of course	[04:20]
asciilifeform	there are numerous available FPGAs which have a programming interface which is not accessible from the routing fabric (i.e. separate pins.)	[04:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.4 = 2.8 BTC [+]	[04:21]
asciilifeform	the product I envision would be a single-purpose device which runs the block chain and only the block chain. the FPGA code implementing the instruction set, firmware, etc. would form a complete description of the system.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	perhaps run into trouble as the blockchain goes over 1tb	[04:22]
pgp	so FPGA + checksum = really secure?	[04:22]
asciilifeform	the client would choose the fpga and the board, and could even physically supply it	[04:22]
asciilifeform	1tb is chump change if you attach mechanical storage.	[04:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4 = 7 BTC [+]	[04:23]
asciilifeform	preferably RAID-5 with drives from different manufacturers	[04:23]
inhies	ao	[04:23]
inhies	so	[04:23]
pgp	lol	[04:23]
asciilifeform	supplied in sealed boxes, with manufacture dates predating the design of the hypothetical system.	[04:23]
inhies	block 235234 is older than block 235233	[04:23]
inhies	wtf	[04:23]
asciilifeform	the idea would be to have an implementation of BTC which could be understood in its physical entirety.	[04:24]
pgp	asciilifeform: i like the way you think...	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	diff manufacturers and raid don't mix so well	[04:24]
asciilifeform	if performance isn't critical, they mix just fine	[04:24]
mircea_popescu	inhies some reorg.	[04:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4149 BTC [+]	[04:24]
asciilifeform	all I'm doing in this thought experiment is applying the traditional principles of serious weapons system design to BTC.	[04:24]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.415 = 14.15 BTC [+]	[04:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.42 = 14.2 BTC [+]	[04:25]
Diablo-D3	[09:23:18] preferably RAID-5 with drives from different manufacturers	[04:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.45 = 7.25 BTC [+]	[04:25]
Diablo-D3	all two of them.	[04:25]
inhies	mircea_popescu: wat?	[04:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.479 = 10.353 BTC [+]	[04:25]
dub	I don't see why this is better than some kind of signed software	[04:25]
pgp	any "weapons design" resources links that yo care to share?	[04:25]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 1.479 = 11.832 BTC [+]	[04:25]
dub	with a rolling key protocol oslt	[04:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.45 = 14.5 BTC [-]	[04:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.48 = 14.8 BTC [+]	[04:26]
asciilifeform	dub: PC software is running in a hostile environment. half a dozen of peripherals with firmware of unknown provenance. a multitasking OS with decades of cruft. etc	[04:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48889 BTC [+]	[04:26]
dub	you added ethernet to you pga though	[04:26]
dub	game over.	[04:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 58 @ 1.489 = 86.362 BTC [+]	[04:26]
mircea_popescu	lol	[04:27]
asciilifeform	dub: no card. just the transformer and plug	[04:27]
pgp	dub: yes	[04:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.45 = 14.5 BTC [-]	[04:27]
dub	I can break whatever you are trying to achieve on the wire	[04:27]
asciilifeform	I have an FPGA board right here on my desk, with a completely verifiable TCP/IP stack	[04:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.489 BTC [+]	[04:27]
asciilifeform	dub: if you can break the BTC crypto, don't settle for small change, go pwn the world	[04:27]
pgp	what kind of board?	[04:27]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.45 = 14.5 BTC [-]	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.488999 BTC [+]	[04:28]
asciilifeform	dub: an ordinary Xilinx proto board	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4899 BTC [+]	[04:28]
pgp	ml605?	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [+]	[04:28]
asciilifeform	pgp: several, actually	[04:28]
pgp	I have several as well	[04:28]
pgp	good platform	[04:28]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: one problem: AFAIK you're the only prospective buyer. interested? what would your specific requirements be?	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.49 = 8.94 BTC [+]	[04:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.46 = 14.6 BTC [-]	[04:29]
mircea_popescu	i'm more like a prospective producer than a prospective buyer.	[04:29]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.49 BTC [+]	[04:30]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: you are already developing exactly this, in-house? or intend to?	[04:30]
mircea_popescu	i guess the original yes belied as much, nehj ?	[04:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.491005 = 5.964 BTC [+]	[04:31]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: do you intend to offer it for sale?	[04:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 124 @ 0.014 = 1.736 BTC [-]	[04:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.4978 = 14.978 BTC [+]	[04:32]
mircea_popescu	in principle. this is all very early tbh.	[04:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.013875 = 0.1388 BTC [-]	[04:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.48 = 29.6 BTC [-]	[04:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.499 = 14.99 BTC [+]	[04:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 1.499 = 29.98 BTC [+]	[04:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 35 @ 1.49999 = 52.4997 BTC [+]	[04:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.49 = 14.9 BTC [-]	[04:34]
Diablo-D3	so	[04:36]
Diablo-D3	who said asicminer might be the next pirate	[04:36]
pgp	lol	[04:36]
Diablo-D3	it was either dub or mp	[04:36]
pgp	dub	[04:37]
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dub	I said pirate level event	[04:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.49 = 4.47 BTC [-]	[04:38]
dub	as in, lots of people lose the farm	[04:38]
Diablo-D3	yeah thats what I mean	[04:38]
pgp	i wonder what that event enum looks like...	[04:38]
Diablo-D3	so, Im buying people's dmc shares out with asicminer shares	[04:38]
dub	buy mine	[04:38]
ThickAsThieves	pretty much would require death/arrest of friedcat, gov intervention, or major fires	[04:39]
ThickAsThieves	dub i keep trying to buy yours	[04:39]
ThickAsThieves	but youre too slow	[04:39]
dub	no, Diablo-D3 should buy my DMC share	[04:39]
ThickAsThieves	oh	[04:39]
dub	and I'm not selling now :)	[04:39]
Diablo-D3	pgp: typedef struct { ILLEGAL, PIRATE, BITCOINICA, FORUM_IS_DOWN, PRICE_IS_DOWN, NOTHING = -1 } fuck_t;	[04:39]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[04:39]
ThickAsThieves	smart move	[04:39]
dub	not until 2	[04:39]
Diablo-D3	dub: how many do you have?	[04:40]
dub	DMC or AM?	[04:40]
Diablo-D3	DMC	[04:40]
ThickAsThieves	i wanna know how many AM	[04:40]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[04:40]
dub	Diablo-D3: try to keep up bro, I have 1	[04:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 13 @ 0.4665 = 6.0645 BTC [+]	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	dub: oh, buy 10 more and I'll trade you 1 AM share	[04:41]
dub	I paid 1 satoshi for it	[04:41]
dub	can I get 9 more at that price?	[04:41]
pgp	lol	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	dub: probably not	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	it was either dub or mp << wait wut ?!	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	about 18 bitcents each atm	[04:41]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: it was dub	[04:41]
dub	I think my DMC share is worth more than any other	[04:42]
mircea_popescu	how did i get mixed up in all this.	[04:42]
dub	its a collectors item	[04:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 8 @ 0.013875 = 0.111 BTC [-]	[04:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4449 BTC [-]	[04:43]
dub	true, we should move chats to #bitcoin-trollbox	[04:43]
dub	-trollbox is superior	[04:43]
dub	it has god mode	[04:43]
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ThickAsThieves	room has been quiet most of the day	[04:44]
ThickAsThieves	other than a bajillion AM trades from assbot	[04:44]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 31 @ 0.0141 = 0.4371 BTC [+]	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	ya. 10k am trades worth 10btc. 10 mpex trades worth 10k btc.	[04:45]
mircea_popescu	story of #bitcoin-assets	[04:45]
pgp	well, I'm feeling more chatty with each additional scotch...	[04:46]
dub	pgp: what flavour	[04:46]
ThickAsThieves	about 1550BTC in AM trades	[04:46]
ThickAsThieves	but yeah, mpex still wins	[04:46]
ThickAsThieves	i'm drinking too, which is unusual lately	[04:47]
pgp	black label...	[04:47]
ThickAsThieves	the missus is away on business	[04:47]
dub	oh, a blend	[04:47]
pgp	w/e	[04:47]
ThickAsThieves	drinking Stone Ruination	[04:47]
ThickAsThieves	and Hoegarden	[04:48]
pgp	nice thing about BL is that I can get it most any place in the worldd	[04:48]
dub	nothing wrong with blends	[04:48]
mircea_popescu	ya, and it'll be just as crappy everywhere :D	[04:48]
pgp	I like to think of myself as "black label soluable"...	[04:49]
ThickAsThieves	mp is better than us all	[04:49]
ThickAsThieves	sometimes we need to be reminded	[04:49]
pgp	lol	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[04:49]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[04:49]
dub	I drink a lot of jameson, tall glass with lots of water and ice a a beer replacement	[04:49]
dub	as a*	[04:49]
mircea_popescu	jameson as in, jenna ?	[04:50]
ThickAsThieves	irisj whiskey	[04:50]
ThickAsThieves	irish*	[04:50]
ThickAsThieves	i have a couple bottles	[04:50]
dub	works with anything not good enough to drink neat	[04:50]
pgp	yep	[04:50]
dub	sadly too much beer kills me	[04:51]
pgp	too many calories	[04:51]
pgp	gotta go with hard liquor	[04:51]
dub	and I need to be careful not to drink malts at the same pace as beer	[04:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 55 @ 0.013899 = 0.7644 BTC [+]	[04:52]
pgp	been down that rabbit hole before...	[04:52]
pgp	malt != beer	[04:52]
ThickAsThieves	no we just grew up is all	[04:53]
ThickAsThieves	not our fault	[04:53]
ThickAsThieves	happens to the best of us	[04:53]
pgp	how old are you guys?	[04:53]
ThickAsThieves	34,000	[04:53]
pgp	I'll be 41 this month	[04:54]
pgp	ugh	[04:54]
dub	im closer to 40 than 30	[04:54]
ThickAsThieves	no wonder this room gets so curmudgeonous	[04:55]
pgp	lol	[04:55]
pgp	given my experience with bitcoin to date, I'm gonna make the assumption that I'm the oldest guy on this channel..	[04:56]
dub	truff1es: I srsly considered buying a sports coupe at $270	[04:56]
ThickAsThieves	do you know mushrooms?	[04:57]
dub	I have a sports car, its got 4 doors	[04:57]
KRS1	41	[04:57]
ThickAsThieves	I have a sports hatchback	[04:57]
ThickAsThieves	not	[04:57]
pgp	shrooms?	[04:57]
dub	you need a coupe to signal a proper mid life crisis	[04:57]
dub	I have a boy racer car :)	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	he is called truffles, cuz?	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	are you a chef?	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	or a hippy?	[04:58]
dub	lowered, loud exhaust the works	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	oh	[04:58]
pgp	I have landrover LR4 with two kiddie seats in back...	[04:58]
ThickAsThieves	i have this white truffle salt i love	[04:59]
pgp	lol	[04:59]
ThickAsThieves	not chocolate, shroomy	[04:59]
ThickAsThieves	white chocolate isnt even chocolate	[04:59]
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ThickAsThieves	hmm i need to drink more slowly	[05:00]
pgp	BTW... this is the BEST channel on IRC...	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[05:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007078 = 3.0584 BTC [-]	[05:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4479 @ 0.00070758 = 3.1693 BTC [-]	[05:00]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136597220098.jpg	[05:01]
pgp	lol	[05:01]
ThickAsThieves	it's my fav chan by far	[05:01]
dub	thats because you aren't in -trollbox	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	dub has to remind us he's better than us all teh time	[05:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.013899 = 0.0834 BTC [+]	[05:01]
mircea_popescu	(hey ThickAsThieves am i doing it rite ?)	[05:01]
ThickAsThieves	leave the hipster trolling to me plz	[05:02]
dub	its important that you remember	[05:02]
ThickAsThieves	;)	[05:02]
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pgp	-trollbox is good concept... if only it could get critical mass...	[05:03]
benkay	what is the concept behind trollbox?	[05:03]
ThickAsThieves	trolling, in a box	[05:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.014 = 0.084 BTC [-]	[05:04]
benkay	but why would the trolls limit themselves to that?	[05:04]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.45 = 14.5 BTC [-]	[05:04]
pgp	speaking of which, where is our resident troll tiberiuiv?	[05:04]
KRS1	heh shhh	[05:04]
benkay	banhammered	[05:04]
ThickAsThieves	banxored	[05:04]
benkay	assbanned	[05:04]
KRS1	does anyone follow the RSI	[05:04]
KRS1	indicator	[05:04]
pgp	RSI sure...	[05:05]
ThickAsThieves	i only follow the price when i am selling or buying	[05:05]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.013899 = 0.0278 BTC [+]	[05:05]
KRS1	pgp: what do you think about it atm	[05:05]
pgp	sell	[05:07]
pgp	all indicators are pointing to at least a short term rollover...	[05:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.485 BTC [+]	[05:09]
pgp	100 looks likes good support, though..	[05:09]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 110.01501, Best ask: 110.36000, Bid-ask spread: 0.34499, Last trade: 110.36000, 24 hour volume: 62591.71220051, 24 hour low: 108.80000, 24 hour high: 116.77700, 24 hour vwap: 113.09620	[05:09]
KRS1	im seeing it horizontal right now +0 / -0 yet market price looks good	[05:09]
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ThickAsThieves	KRS1, the only thing I'm looking at with BTC price right now is the lower curve for the past 8 mos or so	[05:11]
pgp	weekly upward momentum cycle has stalled - end of week rollover is coming - MARK MY WORDS...	[05:11]
ThickAsThieves	if it holds we're about to go bullish more solidly	[05:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.013899 = 0.1807 BTC [+]	[05:11]
kakobrekla	from pgp mouth to gods ears http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png	[05:12]
pgp	lol	[05:12]
pgp	love that chart..	[05:13]
pgp	it's like sex with random girl in bar bathroom...	[05:13]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072021 = 3.112 BTC [+]	[05:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12547 @ 0.00072038 = 9.0386 BTC [+]	[05:14]
pgp	err... but not really...	[05:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30018 @ 0.00072327 = 21.7111 BTC [+]	[05:14]
KRS1	more derivitives http://www.plus500.com/Instruments/BTCUSD	[05:14]
KRS1	nice site imo	[05:14]
KRS1	watch out mpex lol	[05:14]
kakobrekla	been out for a while	[05:15]
pgp	yeah - been following this site - decent implementation..	[05:15]
kakobrekla	heard some funny stories about them	[05:15]
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kakobrekla	enought to convince me not to deposit any cash	[05:16]
kakobrekla	enough	[05:16]
benkay	cfd?	[05:16]
benkay	that means computational fluid dynamics to me.	[05:16]
benkay	oh contract for diff	[05:16]
benkay	cannot fund with bitcoin	[05:17]
benkay	fail	[05:17]
pgp	what stories?	[05:18]
kakobrekla	about them not payin up and such	[05:18]
pgp	btw - cfd is a non-deliverable cash-settled contract...	[05:19]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 24 @ 0.013899 = 0.3336 BTC [+]	[05:19]
kakobrekla	i know what it is	[05:19]
pgp	kako: of course you do	[05:19]
kakobrekla	im not talking about bitcoin related stuff	[05:19]
KRS1	thats a pretty good story..who wants to hear that	[05:19]
kakobrekla	just stories before	[05:20]
kakobrekla	bah	[05:20]
kakobrekla	stories from before	[05:20]
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KRS1	dont think it gets any worse than that..maybe no liquidity?	[05:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.01398 = 0.0559 BTC [+]	[05:20]
KRS1	or a real downhome foreign rip off	[05:20]
pgp	fuck - I'm out of ice...	[05:20]
kakobrekla	call up mc hammer?	[05:21]
pgp	lol	[05:21]
pgp	I can roll "	[05:21]
pgp	"neat" when circumstances demand...	[05:22]
KRS1	pgp: you can always try this for quick ice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-GQk8Q96PY	[05:23]
KRS1	im seeing funky shit on btc-e order books..big BTC orders $10K, $70K...disappear	[05:26]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.44480001 BTC [-]	[05:27]
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pgp	KSR1: manipulation	[05:28]
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pgp	nice video - if only the laws of thermodynamics worked that way...	[05:29]
KRS1	heh yeh as if the changes in lighting wasnt enough ..thought it was amusing though.	[05:30]
KRS1	seems like its time to buy? I might be wrong though.	[05:30]
KRS1	although technically btc is still overbought right	[05:30]
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KRS1	;;goxlag	[05:32]
gribble	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.	[05:32]
KRS1	goxing again?	[05:32]
pgp	note sure if anyone cares, but tailer for movie adaptation of one of my favorite books (Ender's Game) was just released http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP0cUBi4hwE	[05:32]
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pgp	gox wtf?	[05:33]
KRS1	maybe it is time to buy indeed	[05:33]
louong	I'd wait until gox reopens the bounce down	[05:34]
kakobrekla	google for mtgox returns adwords for https://exante.eu/products/BTC/	[05:35]
kakobrekla	some new stuff there?	[05:35]
pgp	my 4 year old could run a better exchange than these jokers...	[05:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48449 BTC [-]	[05:35]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.484499 BTC [+]	[05:36]
kakobrekla	pgp i dont know much about them, what can you tell	[05:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4845 = 5.938 BTC [+]	[05:36]
KRS1	hehe you are prob right..my friend was telling me about some of their code fuckups..like they paid the cheapest developer they could get and once it was working fired him and moved on to the next sprint without testing and fixing shit ..like input validation..programming 101	[05:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4845 = 5.938 BTC [+]	[05:37]
KRS1	;;seen mircea_popescu	[05:37]
gribble	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 35 minutes and 24 seconds ago: (hey ThickAsThieves am i doing it rite ?)	[05:37]
mircea_popescu	is this a bitcoin business being dscribed ?	[05:38]
pgp	kako: nothing new - all BS	[05:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 23 @ 1.4845 = 34.1435 BTC [+]	[05:38]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yes. some people who believe that if you call yourself mercedes you're made in germany.	[05:38]
ThickAsThieves	exante	[05:38]
ThickAsThieves	i think they got some press a few weeks ago	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	and buying google ads makes one successful (hey, it worked for bfl rite)	[05:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.484499 BTC [-]	[05:39]
ThickAsThieves	i have a few dozen free $100 adwords credits somewhere	[05:39]
ThickAsThieves	i took their classes	[05:39]
pgp	bfl... when will bfl be relagated to footnote status...	[05:39]
ThickAsThieves	when AM hits 262TH	[05:40]
pgp	wish there was a was to definitively specify that for a bitbet proposition	[05:40]
ThickAsThieves	and is selling cheaper better devices than BFL all day long	[05:40]
mircea_popescu	pgp srsly.	[05:40]
KRS1	just heard gox is at $67?	[05:40]
KRS1	how in the hell can i place an order or two lol	[05:41]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.0147 = 0.3969 BTC [+]	[05:41]
pgp	fuckin' RIDICULOUS...	[05:42]
KRS1	mircea_popescu: from what I know about Romania or think I know, I think this is how I'd have to live the life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DALvNCbgcKg	[05:42]
KRS1	Idk why but that house seems like what I'd expect from there.	[05:42]
KRS1	Rather castle like.. Do you guys mostly live in castles?	[05:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.484499 = 2.969 BTC [-]	[05:42]
kakobrekla	KRS1 67? where did you hear that	[05:42]
kakobrekla	yes pgp sad	[05:43]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.4845 = 4.4535 BTC [+]	[05:43]
mircea_popescu	;;ticker	[05:43]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 109.30000, Best ask: 109.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.19999, Last trade: 109.49999, 24 hour volume: 60966.84086930, 24 hour low: 108.80000, 24 hour high: 116.77700, 24 hour vwap: 112.99253	[05:43]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.485 = 5.94 BTC [+]	[05:43]
pgp	well, gox is down hard.. so.. who know what reality is...	[05:45]
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pgp	though enjoying music video, KSR1...	[05:46]
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pgp	who is going to bitcoin conference?	[05:46]
KRS1	i liked it..happy to share.	[05:46]
KRS1	hmmm..wonder if those who are quiet right now are on the ddos tip.	[05:48]
*	KRS1 drops a pin.	[05:48]
pgp	hunded million dolla!	[05:48]
KRS1	lol not that kind of pin LMAO	[05:48]
KRS1	hunded million dolla!	[05:48]
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KRS1	I have to hook that up one day..that is pimp.	[05:48]
kakobrekla	its dorra, not dolla.	[05:49]
KRS1	Woke up in a Bugatti.	[05:49]
KRS1	Ah so! Zhank you!	[05:49]
kakobrekla	https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR99yKR0Quc48quTseh2TZcdcoDLtGAT1eI-TFTI8e9w_zHn4y8	[05:49]
KRS1	lmao good one	[05:50]
pgp	lol	[05:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BITVPS] 120 @ 0.0013 = 0.156 BTC [+]	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	;;goxlag	[05:52]
gribble	Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later.	[05:52]
mircea_popescu	awww	[05:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.199 BTC [-]	[05:53]
ThickAsThieves	^ what hapnd there?	[05:53]
KRS1	gox backend is down imo	[05:53]
KRS1	database attack or breakdown	[05:54]
KRS1	just guessing	[05:54]
dub	goxxed	[05:54]
louong	1.199 ASICMINER trade was an option exercise	[05:54]
ThickAsThieves	yep	[05:55]
parseval	Well played	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	that occurred to me	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	i'm just slow atm	[05:55]
dub	http://politicalmetals.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/bart-chilton1.jpg	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	looks like a antagonist from a Die Hard movie	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	or, German	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	or Finnish	[05:55]
ThickAsThieves	or such	[05:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3 = 0.6 BTC [-]	[05:56]
pgp	no matter how you try to define goxIncompetence, you will always encounter stack overflow	[05:56]
kakobrekla	lol	[05:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 2 @ 0.0149 = 0.0298 BTC [+]	[05:56]
pgp	stack fucking overflow....	[05:57]
dub	pgp: did your client grok my cosby?	[05:57]
dub	in -trollbox	[05:57]
pgp	lol	[05:58]
ThickAsThieves	how do i join this trollbox	[05:58]
pgp	i grok a lot of lf	[05:58]
ThickAsThieves	i'm properly sauced now	[05:58]
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pgp	excellent	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	remember that guy Bugpowder?	[05:59]
pgp	let the games begin	[05:59]
Bugpowder	sup	[05:59]
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dub	ThickAsThieves: #bitcoin-trollbox	[05:59]
dub	join it	[05:59]
Bugpowder	I picked the wrong evening to buy back in	[05:59]
ThickAsThieves	did you?	[05:59]
grubles	;;ticker --last	[06:00]
gribble	109.26001	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	i'm almost all in BTC at this point	[06:00]
[\]	oh look	[06:00]
[\]	503 Service Temporarily Unavailable	[06:00]
[\]	good old gox	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	got maybe $10k cash left just in case it crashes majorly	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	technically i'm almost all in asicminer...	[06:00]
[\]	ThickAsThieves, can I borrow $10k?	[06:00]
ThickAsThieves	no	[06:01]
[\]	ThickAsThieves: what if AM goes rogue?	[06:01]
KRS1	this might crash when it comes back up?	[06:01]
topace_	sold $10k of AM shares on havelock today alone :p	[06:01]
ThickAsThieves	hopefully ive sold out on all my PTs by then	[06:01]
KRS1	thought it would shoot	[06:01]
ThickAsThieves	topace, I rebought	[06:01]
KRS1	same	[06:01]
topace_	ah nice	[06:01]
topace_	you already have more on havelock than you were originally planning i see :)	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	yep	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	i put every BTC i got from selling shares on all the PTs	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	into more shares	[06:02]
ThickAsThieves	i've gone AM bullish	[06:03]
topace_	:)	[06:03]
grubles	#bitcoin-rt is working	[06:03]
topace_	well ill keep buying blades so that should help the share value :p	[06:03]
[\]	is bfl shipping yet?	[06:03]
topace_	accoridng to their email they sent last week yea.	[06:03]
topace_	but no	[06:03]
topace_	not really	[06:04]
topace_	"we're shipping!"	[06:04]
topace_	hah	[06:04]
Bugpowder	gox bak	[06:04]
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parseval	Yeah, 35 units, half to media isn't really 'shipping', it's demoing	[06:05]
ThickAsThieves	it's scamming	[06:05]
[\]	I'm glad I didn't put everything I had with them back in the day	[06:05]
[\]	fucking gox:	[06:06]
[\]	Multiple distinct Location headers received. This is disallowed to protect against HTTP response splitting attacks.	[06:06]
[\]	Error code: ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_LOCATION	[06:06]
parseval	I'm still holding out for my 30GH miner	[06:06]
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KRS1	< 60GH x 2	[06:06]
parseval	I probably should have gone for the refund, but I'll stick with it now	[06:06]
[\]	what are you holding parseval?	[06:06]
Bugpowder	NEver seen this one before	[06:06]
Bugpowder	302 Found	[06:06]
KRS1	ill buy your order..how much you want	[06:07]
[\]	its a permanent redirect	[06:07]
[\]	they're using cloudflare	[06:07]
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[\]	but since much of the page is dynamic	[06:07]
parseval	Nah, I'm going to keep it	[06:07]
KRS1	:P	[06:07]
[\]	cloudflare does nothing for them	[06:07]
Bugpowder	Nobody will make their money back on the BFL shit	[06:07]
parseval	I'm just holding a preorder for the one unit, and running a couple of video cards atm, nothing major	[06:07]
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KRS1	I'll be able to sell mine in 5 years for twice as much as collectible nostalgia technology..It'll sit on a shelf right between a ColecoVision and an Atari 2600	[06:10]
benkay	that's...	[06:10]
benkay	not the dumbest thing ever.	[06:10]
ThickAsThieves	but close	[06:10]
benkay	not an investment strategy	[06:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.0007181 = 3.1029 BTC [-]	[06:10]
benkay	bitcoin beanie babies...	[06:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6292 @ 0.00071835 = 4.5199 BTC [+]	[06:10]
parseval	A pet rock engraved with a private key	[06:11]
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Bugpowder	you will be able to buy 20 of them with the current value in bitcoin.	[06:11]
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KRS1	theres a $60K order on btc-e at $105.99	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	Asicminer USB miners will probly be worth more than a BFL minirig in 5 years	[06:12]
KRS1	but the BFL miner has the cool butterfly logo	[06:12]
ThickAsThieves	that is a fact	[06:12]
benkay	new topic!	[06:13]
benkay	wtf is this shit:	[06:13]
benkay	https://github.com/macourtney/Dark-Exchange	[06:13]
KRS1	why is anything fpga painfully expensive and low hash output	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	Asicminer should just steal that logo	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	and make the generic asic logo	[06:13]
ThickAsThieves	like a real chinaman	[06:13]
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mircea_popescu	darklulz	[06:15]
benkay	a cutting critique!	[06:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.014 BTC [-]	[06:16]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.479999 = 2.96 BTC [+]	[06:17]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.48 = 4.44 BTC [+]	[06:17]
Bugpowder	bithouse? http://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/1436-Allenford-Ave-90049/home/6839298	[06:18]
ThickAsThieves	walls might be plywood	[06:18]
Bugpowder	mid-century modern? nah dood	[06:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.014 = 0.28 BTC [-]	[06:20]
dub	how is that auction for the shithole in germany going?	[06:20]
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dub	ThickAsThieves: dat asbestos	[06:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.014 = 0.7 BTC [-]	[06:22]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.014 = 0.322 BTC [-]	[06:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 77 @ 0.0141 = 1.0857 BTC [+]	[06:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 75 @ 0.0141 = 1.0575 BTC [+]	[06:26]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.479799 BTC [-]	[06:26]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.479799 BTC [-]	[06:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 17 @ 0.0141 = 0.2397 BTC [+]	[06:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.0142 = 0.1136 BTC [+]	[06:28]
benkay	dat broker	[06:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.479799 = 2.9596 BTC [-]	[06:28]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.479799 BTC [-]	[06:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.479799 BTC [-]	[06:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0142 = 1.42 BTC [+]	[06:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.479799 BTC [-]	[06:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18501 BTC [-]	[06:31]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.479799 BTC [-]	[06:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 122 @ 0.0142 = 1.7324 BTC [+]	[06:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01425 = 2.1375 BTC [+]	[06:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0143 = 1.43 BTC [+]	[06:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 128 @ 0.0145 = 1.856 BTC [+]	[06:34]
ThickAsThieves	omnomnom AM shares	[06:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1771 @ 0.0007181 = 1.2718 BTC [-]	[06:36]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3786 @ 0.00071835 = 2.7197 BTC [+]	[06:36]
Namworld	Fuckit	[06:37]
Namworld	I sold at 0.41	[06:37]
louong	bubble	[06:37]
Namworld	I found some other good investments, luckily	[06:38]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8572 @ 0.00071835 = 6.1577 BTC [+]	[06:44]
assbot	[BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.18501 BTC [-]	[06:45]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.003 = 0.03 BTC [+]	[06:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 20 @ 0.002945 = 0.0589 BTC [-]	[06:52]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1012 @ 0.00294 = 2.9753 BTC [-]	[06:53]
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bgupta	Namworld: What at 0.41?	[06:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.2965 = 1.4825 BTC [-]	[06:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 17 @ 0.29 = 4.93 BTC [-]	[06:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29 = 2.9 BTC [-]	[06:54]
ThickAsThieves	his AM shares I assume	[06:54]
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ThickAsThieves	.41 is the price I started buying at	[06:54]
bgupta	Namworld you should have told me, it's going for a lot more.. I would have paid more.	[06:55]
KRS1	that is badass, thickasthieves	[06:55]
KRS1	what made you have faith back then	[06:55]
KRS1	I was folding	[06:56]
louong	5x ROI since IPO is pretty darned good	[06:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 1.45 = 14.5 BTC [-]	[06:57]
ThickAsThieves	I dont recall the details of why I bought back then,	[06:57]
ThickAsThieves	but I also sold all those shares	[06:57]
ThickAsThieves	to sell BTC during the bubble burst I think	[06:57]
KRS1	wow this was like a 0-day exploit	[06:57]
ThickAsThieves	to rebuy at lower price	[06:57]
KRS1	i mostly sold out to make up my $3K investment on my rigs	[06:58]
KRS1	kept some	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	i invested $25k cash total in BTC	[06:58]
KRS1	well done	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	all of which has been paid back	[06:58]
inhies	baller	[06:58]
KRS1	baller is putting it lightly..thats gangster	[06:58]
ThickAsThieves	i'm sure others here can claim much more	[06:58]
KRS1	always a bigger fish huh	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	it was an investment decision	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	i even consulted with the wifey	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	made a presentation about bitcoin for her	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	made a plan	[06:59]
KRS1	f'n taxes are prolly your biggest headache these days huh	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	etc	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	yes and no	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	i havent entirely sorted that out yet	[06:59]
KRS1	and now you are the man for doing it all right like that	[06:59]
ThickAsThieves	since it all happened in 213	[07:00]
ThickAsThieves	2013	[07:00]
ThickAsThieves	i also used cash from my business to do the buying	[07:00]
ThickAsThieves	so i have some flex there	[07:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 30 @ 0.0142 = 0.426 BTC [-]	[07:01]
KRS1	if its an s-corp u can prolly realize those gains and keep it in the coffers without having to pay anything just yet	[07:01]
ThickAsThieves	i have many things i can claim as expenses at well	[07:01]
ThickAsThieves	as*	[07:01]
Bugpowder	ThickAsThieves: xv	[07:02]
Bugpowder	http://i.imgur.com/EUe0FDs.png	[07:02]
ThickAsThieves	haha nice	[07:02]
Bugpowder	tonight :)	[07:02]
ThickAsThieves	daytrading btc got too gambley for me	[07:02]
KRS1	well the thing is, an incorporated business is its own legal entity and any money it makes doesnt get taxed until its withdrawn as salary or whatever..you can figure out how to spend it tax free from there..max the ira's and what not..make tax free "investments" into the "company" that get sspent on this and that	[07:03]
ThickAsThieves	i;m almost at .3%	[07:03]
Bugpowder	I have a pro CPA looking at the tax situation	[07:03]
ThickAsThieves	on gox	[07:03]
KRS1	the government likes green investments atm	[07:03]
Bugpowder	will update.	[07:03]
ThickAsThieves	that would be appreciated Bug	[07:03]
Bugpowder	0.3% is a nice discount tier	[07:03]
Bugpowder	after that who gives a shit	[07:03]
KRS1	yeh lawyers are real good at that shit..meh I went to business school I only know the "proper" way to do things.	[07:03]
Bugpowder	the CPA is going to do it proper	[07:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3034 BTC [+]	[07:04]
KRS1	yeh they can pull off some cool shit so you dont pay as much	[07:04]
ThickAsThieves	i forgot i had some BTC on gox still :)	[07:04]
Bugpowder	I would have had to set shit up ahead of time in offshore shell corps to avoid taxes, instead of my personal gox account	[07:04]
Bugpowder	and I dunno how to do that.	[07:04]
Bugpowder	yet :-P	[07:04]
KRS1	just call a bank in Bermuda =D	[07:04]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[14:56]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/	[14:56]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013	[14:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00071203 = 1.2966 BTC [-]	[14:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 415 @ 0.00070989 = 0.2946 BTC [-]	[14:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070979 = 3.067 BTC [-]	[14:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4293 @ 0.00070978 = 3.0471 BTC [-]	[14:56]
Chaang-Noi	mp you know about this? EX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00071203 = 1.2966 BTC [-]	[14:56]
Chaang-Noi	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 415 @ 0.00070989 = 0.2946 BTC [-]	[14:56]
Chaang-Noi	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00070979 = 3.067 BTC [-]	[14:56]
Chaang-Noi	[MPEX]	[14:56]
Chaang-Noi	fuck	[14:56]
Chaang-Noi	http://www.anyoption.com/bitcoin-options	[14:56]
Namworld	Looks neat...	[14:57]
Chaang-Noi	but is it a scam?	[14:57]
jurov	shrugs not planning to touch it anyway	[14:58]
Chaang-Noi	yeah	[14:58]
davout	they're in cyprus	[14:58]
Namworld	Doesn't look like it	[14:58]
Chaang-Noi	hmm	[14:58]
davout	scam state :-)	[14:58]
davout	http://www.anyoption.com/about-anyoption-trading	[14:58]
Chaang-Noi	am is over 20 th now	[14:58]
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Chaang-Noi	"Our main data source for pricing and expiry rates is Thomson Reuters."	[14:59]
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jurov	;;bc,stats	[15:00]
gribble	Current Blocks: 235301 \| Current Difficulty: 1.0076292883418716E7 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 235871 \| Next Difficulty In: 570 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 13 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 10874674.6045 \| Estimated Percent Change: 7.92337	[15:00]
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KRS1	its a scam state, but also one that needs solutions..so could this be one	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	hi all	[15:02]
Chaang-Noi	John Cane: What do you mean by 4 btc community?	[15:02]
Chaang-Noi	akmar: btc means bitcoin its is the currancy code	[15:02]
Chaang-Noi	akmar: how long has this site been around?	[15:02]
Chaang-Noi	John Cane: Our platform is active since 2008.	[15:02]
Chaang-Noi	they say they ahve been here since 2008 hahaha	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	lolk	[15:02]
jurov	this is not a solution... just a betting that doesn't touch bitcoin actually	[15:02]
daybyter	Hello mircea_popescu!	[15:03]
jurov	hi mircea	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	anyway, in the interest of full disclosure :	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	about ten days ago i was cleanning out my lawnmower when something inside pricked my finger	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	which made a fucking obnoxious wound kept me from typing properly for a coupla days	[15:03]
davout	ohai	[15:03]
mircea_popescu	but then! it didn't heal properly!	[15:03]
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mircea_popescu	so now i just had it surgified, and apparently the doctor removed a very fine thorn bit from my finger.	[15:04]
jurov	so now you are Mircea Four-fingered.	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	at this point it either heals or i get magical flesh eating bacteria and die.	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	so pray for me or else all your bitcoinz!	[15:04]
Chaang-Noi	hmm, i would ahve assumed you paid people to cut your grass	[15:04]
davout	s/magical/romanian/	[15:04]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi its not that much and i cant sit in the chair all day long.	[15:04]
davout	Chaang-Noi: why pay someone to do the fun things?	[15:04]
jurov	Chaang-Noi: mp prolly likes to inhale that fresh grass smell	[15:05]
error4733	can you make withdraws with 4 fingers ?	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	jurov i have a mulch pile and everything	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	error4733 nope.	[15:05]
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ThickAsThieves	lol	[15:05]
jurov	hehe	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	gotta push 6 buttons at the same time	[15:05]
error4733	shit	[15:05]
Chaang-Noi	yard work, dont enjoy it so much, i just take walks with my dogas	[15:05]
ThickAsThieves	10-finger verification system	[15:05]
Chaang-Noi	dogs	[15:05]
mircea_popescu	i have it set up like a sort of mario knockoff	[15:05]
ThickAsThieves	gets ya every time	[15:05]
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mircea_popescu	sorry error4733 but your withdrawal is in another castle.	[15:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.01495 = 3.7375 BTC [+]	[15:06]
KRS1	first time I've seen binary options for btc	[15:06]
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mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi unless you're 85lbs coma survivor lawnmowing is no hard work eh ?	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	not like i work my own coal mine.	[15:06]
error4733	all my shiny gold coin...	[15:06]
ThickAsThieves	sdice has many options	[15:06]
davout	mircea_popescu: LOL	[15:06]
jurov	actually i'm the mowing expert in our family, too	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	KRS1 nah, were like 2-3 before.	[15:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [+]	[15:07]
KRS1	not much call for that eh	[15:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01512 = 0.756 BTC [+]	[15:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01512 = 0.756 BTC [+]	[15:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 55 @ 0.01524 = 0.8382 BTC [+]	[15:07]
mircea_popescu	jurov i didn't know kensians had families :D	[15:07]
jurov	kensians?	[15:07]
Chaang-Noi	no it is not hard work, id rather do hard work than cut grass something i can pay the local combodian 3$ to do it (and he does a hell of a better job than i could do anyway)	[15:07]
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mircea_popescu	(that, for the two irc trolls who don't know finance at all, was a joke, in relation to all the recent furror about nial making that stateemnt re keynes being gay)	[15:07]
error4733	3$/day	[15:07]
Chaang-Noi	i dont mind doing work, but i dont like doing work where i dont need to think.	[15:07]
error4733	?	[15:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.01524 = 0.762 BTC [+]	[15:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01525 = 1.525 BTC [+]	[15:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi if you don't think you get your finger pricked.	[15:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01467 = 0.1027 BTC [-]	[15:08]
Chaang-Noi	error that is like 3 hours of work, and i over pay	[15:08]
Chaang-Noi	mp :)	[15:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.014675 = 0.3962 BTC [+]	[15:08]
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error4733	lol over pay like a boss...	[15:08]
mircea_popescu	$3!	[15:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.0155 = 2.325 BTC [+]	[15:09]
Chaang-Noi	i live near camobida, lots of works need work	[15:09]
error4733	1$/h nice wage ! at least you can buy food to stay alive	[15:09]
Chaang-Noi	a teacher makes $200 a month starting out, a no skilled illigal cambodian gets fuck all	[15:09]
jurov	did you try offering few teaspoons of bitcoins?	[15:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01512 = 1.512 BTC [-]	[15:10]
Chaang-Noi	a good meal is about a dollar here	[15:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01512 = 7.56 BTC [-]	[15:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0151 = 0.755 BTC [-]	[15:10]
Chaang-Noi	AM over 1.5 nice :)	[15:10]
Chaang-Noi	and that was a sell off, lol	[15:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 250 @ 0.0155 = 3.875 BTC [+]	[15:11]
Chaang-Noi	if you guys had 100k usd in fiat and wanted to start a btc business what would you do?	[15:11]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi i would hire fred wilson.	[15:11]
error4733	gest house in thailand	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	i have a few ideas	[15:11]
error4733	guest*	[15:11]
Chaang-Noi	fred wilson. to cut my grass?	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	i have a google search killer idea	[15:11]
ThickAsThieves	and an online training software SaaS idea	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	people now sign emails to me with Hoping to not get in your "dumb persons" list, X	[15:12]
ThickAsThieves	but 100k probly aint enough	[15:12]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi pretty cool idea that.	[15:12]
Chaang-Noi	:)	[15:12]
Chaang-Noi	i know a guy who wants to get into a btc and have a business, has 100k but i have no idea what to do with it	[15:14]
Chaang-Noi	only idea is to have an exchange but i dont know...	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	oh, a bitcoin biz	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	porn?	[15:14]
jurov	and in case you need deratisation, i also recommend you to hire the rat poison expert, what was his name...	[15:14]
error4733	drug ?	[15:14]
Chaang-Noi	hmm btc and porn	[15:14]
Chaang-Noi	do people still pay for porn?	[15:14]
ThickAsThieves	bitcoin PR/mktg agency	[15:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.015552 = 1.5552 BTC [+]	[15:15]
error4733	1$/h ?	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi if he's located in where you are he could start a business making retreats for bitcoiners.	[15:15]
Chaang-Noi	yeah bitcoin needs good pr people	[15:15]
Chaang-Noi	he is in the usa	[15:15]
ThickAsThieves	bitcoin consulting in general	[15:15]
error4733	mp +1	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	if he's in the usa he should spend it to relocate	[15:15]
jurov	Chaang-Noi: just send him to supernode conference.	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	best business decision ever.	[15:15]
Chaang-Noi	yeah he works and has a family	[15:16]
mircea_popescu	which is why it costs 100k	[15:16]
Chaang-Noi	i think he would just give me the 100k to do whatever	[15:16]
error4733	yes	[15:16]
Chaang-Noi	yeah he wont go, iv told him for years to get the fuck out	[15:16]
ThickAsThieves	use it to manipulate litecoin prices	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	you know this is so very much like pre-iron curtain europe	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	people just don't want to go.	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	then they queue up for bread.	[15:17]
ThickAsThieves	it wont be bread this time	[15:17]
mircea_popescu	actually if it were bread i tyhink it'd be a blessing	[15:17]
ThickAsThieves	we're too food-focused	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	think, a 600 calorie average diet in the us for a year ?!	[15:18]
ThickAsThieves	itll be somehting else	[15:18]
mircea_popescu	population health +9000	[15:18]
Chaang-Noi	usa has a lot of food	[15:18]
error4733	Chaang-Noi : how much to buy a land and built a nice guest house in thailand ? Not the most expensive place but not the worst neither	[15:18]
Chaang-Noi	he wants to do just btc stuff	[15:18]
error4733	just buy BTC hand hoar ?	[15:18]
Chaang-Noi	id do tourist shit in myanmar, loas or cambodia, too much shit here	[15:19]
ThickAsThieves	roll the 100k on sdice 85%, probly save a lot of time	[15:19]
Chaang-Noi	i told him to just hold btc, buti thought id ask here if anyone had any ideas	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves lol	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi obviously he can buy shares.	[15:19]
mircea_popescu	you don't need us to tell you that.	[15:19]
Chaang-Noi	if anything he would buy AM	[15:19]
error4733	AM shares !	[15:19]
Chaang-Noi	but i doubt he will, he wants to get into the almost virgin btc world	[15:20]
mircea_popescu	am at 1.5 ?	[15:20]
Chaang-Noi	about that yeah	[15:20]
Chaang-Noi	over 20 th now	[15:20]
ThickAsThieves	btc space program	[15:21]
jurov	Chaang-Noi: just send him around here	[15:21]
jurov	let himself explain what he wants	[15:21]
ThickAsThieves	btc satellite for internet access to syria etc	[15:21]
Chaang-Noi	okay ill do that	[15:21]
Chaang-Noi	if he can figure out irc	[15:21]
jurov	he can use webchat in worst case	[15:22]
Chaang-Noi	i was wondering, lets say i was in antartica and i wanted to send some btc, how the fuck would that work?	[15:22]
jurov	use iridium?	[15:22]
Chaang-Noi	do they have satalite internet there?	[15:22]
ThickAsThieves	carrier pigeon	[15:22]
jurov	they do	[15:22]
mircea_popescu	sure they do have satellite	[15:22]
Chaang-Noi	id ahve to buy a special phone or computer?	[15:23]
error4733	srsly, i made the same mistake, try to invest instead of bought btc ! i punch myself eveytime i saw my stock take the dust	[15:23]
error4733	yes	[15:23]
error4733	iridum with modem	[15:23]
Chaang-Noi	so it should be doable with out too much trougble if i find myself down there?	[15:23]
jurov	Chaang-Noi: http://www.iridium.com/Products.aspx	[15:24]
orkaa	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_in_Antarctica	[15:24]
Chaang-Noi	good links guys thx	[15:24]
error4733	https://www.bitmit.net/en/item/21753-satellite-phone-motorola-9505-world-free-shipping-escrow	[15:25]
Chaang-Noi	error, does not seem like i could run a btc client on that phone	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136810239326.jpg	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	(no tits)	[15:26]
Chaang-Noi	okay so im sure i could get something to work, if i make it down there ill have to look into it more	[15:27]
Chaang-Noi	anyone have any idea if this house is worth more than 50 btc? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199199.0	[15:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.0001 = 4.0002 BTC [-]	[15:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01545 = 1.545 BTC [-]	[15:31]
Chaang-Noi	i just wonder if it is a scam	[15:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.015475 = 1.5475 BTC [+]	[15:32]
ThickAsThieves	havelockers ball	[15:32]
error4733	Chaan-Noi u dont run any client on phone. you connect the phone to your laptop and its like a modem	[15:32]
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ThickAsThieves	er, havelockers are ballers	[15:32]
Chaang-Noi	error okay cool	[15:33]
Chaang-Noi	anyone here german?	[15:33]
andreas	I'm german...	[15:34]
Chaang-Noi	andreas what do you think this house is worth? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=199199.0	[15:34]
jurov	if the house is structurally sound, then it's worth 50btc	[15:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 60 @ 0.015475 = 0.9285 BTC [+]	[15:35]
Chaang-Noi	no way i could tell with out going there eh?	[15:35]
mircea_popescu	a house in germany is worth 50 btc just on the premise it is allowed to stand.	[15:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015475 BTC [+]	[15:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.015475 = 0.7738 BTC [+]	[15:36]
Chaang-Noi	hmm, 100 btc?	[15:36]
andreas	yeah...I followed this thread for a while, too...	[15:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2.06 = 12.36 BTC [+]	[15:37]
andreas	I'm not so sure about the monument protection issue yet.	[15:37]
Chaang-Noi	i have no idea what houses are worth in germany	[15:37]
andreas	although the owner claims otherwise, I know...	[15:37]
Chaang-Noi	yeah but might be scam	[15:37]
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Chaang-Noi	or a lie	[15:37]
Chaang-Noi	he wont give us the address	[15:37]
andreas	atm, I think there will be restrictions if you renovate it...	[15:37]
Chaang-Noi	well, what if i just want to burn it to the ground?	[15:38]
andreas	so...you have to keep the facade, if you renovate it.	[15:38]
Chaang-Noi	id guess that would be costly?	[15:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.014675 = 0.0881 BTC [+]	[15:38]
andreas	you won't be allowed to use modern windows with plastic frames etc.	[15:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.015475 BTC [+]	[15:39]
andreas	I guess you'll have to replace all electricity lines, water installation etc.	[15:39]
Chaang-Noi	well the outside does look cool	[15:39]
jurov	there is not street view there.. but few interesting photos of other ruins	[15:39]
andreas	you won't even be allowed just to leave it rotting!	[15:39]
Chaang-Noi	jurov you cant find it on google?	[15:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 38 @ 0.015475 = 0.5881 BTC [+]	[15:40]
Chaang-Noi	lol i cant just leave it?	[15:40]
andreas	So the local authorities will force you to renovate it, I guess...	[15:40]
andreas	next problem...who wants to live there?	[15:40]
jurov	no, i thought i'll find it via street view, ichstedt is small	[15:40]
Chaang-Noi	any idea how much that woujld cost? i honestly have no idea	[15:40]
jurov	but only a few photos there	[15:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.015479 = 1.5479 BTC [+]	[15:41]
andreas	in most areas there are no stores or shops anymore.	[15:41]
Chaang-Noi	jurov think its a scam or just not enough photos?	[15:41]
mircea_popescu	there is never going to be "Enough photos"	[15:41]
andreas	so I guess you'll have to drive like 20 miles just to buy a slice of bread.	[15:41]
jurov	Chaang-Noi: how would i know i just report what i found on google maps	[15:41]
andreas	there's a very good chance, that there's no internet connection there.	[15:41]
davout	seen this : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dyr12/coinbase_coinlab_and_others_sued_for_violating/ ?	[15:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]	[15:42]
Chaang-Noi	jurov no idea, just asking for your thoughts, iv not checked it out	[15:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.003001 = 1.8006 BTC [-]	[15:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 60 @ 0.00295 = 0.177 BTC [-]	[15:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0029001 = 2.9001 BTC [-]	[15:42]
jurov	actually it looks quite populous area.. and they promise 8gbit internet	[15:42]
andreas	what?	[15:42]
Chaang-Noi	truffles if i do so in the next 3 days	[15:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0156 = 1.56 BTC [+]	[15:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 8334 @ 0.0029 = 24.1686 BTC [-]	[15:43]
jurov	halle (quite big city) 71 km away , not bad	[15:43]
mircea_popescu	davout that 5mn round just in time eh.	[15:43]
jurov	andreas, read the op	[15:43]
andreas	you can't get such a connection in the middle of berlin or munich as a private user...	[15:43]
Chaang-Noi	http://postimg.org/image/ylmkg86op/ seems next to a church	[15:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 19 @ 0.0159 = 0.3021 BTC [+]	[15:44]
davout	mircea_popescu: what?	[15:44]
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mircea_popescu	that was the fred wilson refernce. coinbase closed a 5mn deal a little back	[15:44]
mircea_popescu	not stellar, but hey. they needed the cash to stay in the picture.	[15:44]
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davout	oh lol, i was like 5 minutes what?	[15:44]
jurov	yes the church is on panoramio	[15:45]
davout	yea, i heard about it	[15:45]
mircea_popescu	minutes is min :D	[15:45]
davout	paymium's funding is apparently	[15:45]
davout	in another castle	[15:45]
davout	for the time being	[15:45]
davout	5mn nom nom nom	[15:46]
andreas	I can tell you, that better houses where sold at the hunsrück or in hessen for 15000-20000 euros.	[15:46]
andreas	with functioning water and electricity installation.	[15:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.455 BTC [+]	[15:46]
andreas	so you can move in within 4 weeks, or so.	[15:46]
jurov	brrrrr hunsrueck... friend ended there, has to pay 80 euro for half decent internet	[15:46]
andreas	not renovate it for 5 years...	[15:47]
jurov	total end of the world	[15:47]
Chaang-Noi	i think i will just pass on that house, really seems like more work than it is worth	[15:47]
andreas	what do you think, thüringen is?	[15:47]
*	mircea_popescu looks alooftly on davout's problems	[15:47]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 845 @ 0.01547501 = 13.0764 BTC [+]	[15:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.015475 = 0.3095 BTC [-]	[15:48]
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davout	mircea_popescu: http://oi43.tinypic.com/9id66e.jpg	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	its a portmanteau	[15:50]
mircea_popescu	from aloof and lofty	[15:50]
davout	:-)	[15:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0158 = 1.58 BTC [+]	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	andreas so does germany generally suck as a place to livei n ?	[15:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.0158 = 2.37 BTC [+]	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	dude! i found it omg!	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	http://25.media.tumblr.com/b447b32d445ba19dba3d2a3dbd7fd86d/tumblr_mjelkmZX3G1qhv81zo2_r1_500.gif	[15:54]
andreas	http://www.diepmans.com/index.php?action=angebotsdetails&angebotID=1231	[15:54]
andreas	I think, this is better...	[15:54]
mircea_popescu	this is me when i go to conferences, press events etc.	[15:54]
andreas	...as an example...	[15:54]
andreas	mircea_popescu: it's hard to compare for me, since I've never lived anywhere else..	[15:55]
mircea_popescu	well now, that you must change.	[15:55]
andreas	but I think, you cannot say, that living in country x sucks...	[15:55]
andreas	it depends where and how you live.	[15:55]
Chaang-Noi	andreas im shocked houses are so cheap in germany	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01585 = 3.17 BTC [+]	[15:56]
andreas	with enough money, you can have a decent live almost anywhere...	[15:56]
andreas	Chaang-Noi: you have to consider the demographic problems here...	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	well if you can't renovate your house	[15:56]
Chaang-Noi	35k euro is nothing for a house, or at least int he usa	[15:56]
mircea_popescu	then no, it does suck, and its not a question of money.	[15:56]
Chaang-Noi	300k or os needed for a decent house in the usa	[15:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 41 @ 0.0159 = 0.6519 BTC [+]	[15:57]
andreas	not enough kids, germans are getting fewer and fewer...	[15:57]
andreas	and the young people go, where the work is.	[15:57]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7050 @ 0.00073496 = 5.1815 BTC [+]	[15:57]
andreas	there are no companies in thüringen or hunsrück etc.	[15:57]
Chaang-Noi	i see	[15:57]
andreas	so you cannot make a living there in most cases.	[15:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 48 @ 0.01595 = 0.7656 BTC [+]	[15:58]
andreas	so they move into bigger towns, like cologne, munich etc.	[15:58]
andreas	the old people stay in their villages, but they don't need internet etc. often.	[15:58]
Chaang-Noi	hmm, i am interested in getting some place in europe as a base to travel around, but no idea where, i think it wont be spain however...	[15:58]
cads	Chaang-Noi cheebydi coingenuity ColdHardMetal copumpkin Cory	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi timisoara.	[15:59]
andreas	so shops are closing etc.	[15:59]
Chaang-Noi	what does a decent flat cost there? im not sure i even want a house	[15:59]
andreas	buying houses in cologne or munich is crazy expensive now...	[15:59]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400003 BTC [-]	[15:59]
andreas	even renting an appartment is a huge problem..	[15:59]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi why buy anyway ? you can just rent.	[15:59]
Chaang-Noi	id be intersted in timisoara	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	starting from whatever, 200 a month.	[16:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.400002 BTC [-]	[16:00]
Chaang-Noi	furnished?	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[16:00]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [-]	[16:00]
Chaang-Noi	wellthats fine then	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	i'm here specifically because it makes all of europe accessible.	[16:00]
mircea_popescu	you can fly anywhere within an hour or two, the airport is 20 minutes away (from where i live) etc	[16:01]
Chaang-Noi	i might buy a car	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	well... may be three hours to lisbon or moscow, but you get the idea.	[16:01]
mircea_popescu	sure, west roads are ok. east a little iffy.	[16:01]
Chaang-Noi	idealy id hook up with a local who could assit me in traveling and the like, i only know english	[16:02]
Chaang-Noi	a bit of spanish	[16:02]
andreas	http://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/miete/preisexplosion-und-kein-ende-19656396.bild.html	[16:02]
andreas	see Chaang-Noi?	[16:03]
Chaang-Noi	i see the photo	[16:03]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi so pick up some chick	[16:03]
andreas	That's what it's looks like if a flat in hamburg is open for rent.	[16:03]
Chaang-Noi	but lack context	[16:03]
Chaang-Noi	ahh	[16:03]
Chaang-Noi	rent controlled?	[16:03]
andreas	100 people want to take a look.	[16:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [-]	[16:04]
andreas	because there are so few appartments available in the bigger towns here.	[16:04]
jurov	yea, that's how he ended on deep hunsrueck	[16:04]
jurov	*in	[16:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01595 = 0.1595 BTC [+]	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	yeah, so apparently germany does suck to live in.	[16:05]
mircea_popescu	people expecting you to accomodate them rather than bending over backwards for your comfort.	[16:05]
Chaang-Noi	hmm, honestly german girls are not really that hot for the most part	[16:05]
andreas	nah,,,I wouldn't say that in general...	[16:05]
andreas	the weather is not extreme...	[16:05]
andreas	no storms, floods etc in general...	[16:06]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]	[16:06]
jurov	summers in germany suck... always cloudy	[16:06]
andreas	the whole infrastructure etc works...	[16:06]
andreas	no electricity problems, water supply problems etc.	[16:06]
jurov	yes carpathian basin is better clima-wise	[16:06]
andreas	I can walk in 5 mins to the next hospital.	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	andreas that is besides the point. who wants to live somewhere where "there are no apartments" ?	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	fu, get cracking, build more.	[16:07]
andreas	I said: in the middle of bigger towns, like munich,hamburg,berlin etc.	[16:07]
mircea_popescu	you mean like, downtown ?	[16:07]
andreas	in my hometown, you can find an appartment with no problems...	[16:08]
mircea_popescu	a. then i misunderstood. obviously city centre is a limited supply.	[16:08]
andreas	and you have to consider, that the economy still works quite well in germany.	[16:09]
andreas	that's why so many young folks from spain etc want to come here...	[16:09]
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jurov	apparently finding a rent in vicinity of s-bahn outside city center is a problem, too	[16:09]
andreas	yeah...	[16:10]
andreas	even 20km outside of munich you'll have to pay > 500 euros to rent a small flat...	[16:10]
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MJR_	hi everyone	[16:11]
davout	ohai	[16:11]
andreas	Hi!	[16:11]
MJR_	davout: meteor is a success	[16:11]
MJR_	i love this framework	[16:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 6 @ 0.01585 = 0.0951 BTC [-]	[16:12]
davout	it looked awesome in the demo	[16:12]
kakobrekla	bids are now higher than asks http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png	[16:12]
davout	did you manage to make some sort of access control/user management easily ?	[16:12]
Chaang-Noi	nice kako :)	[16:12]
Chaang-Noi	wait higher?	[16:13]
Chaang-Noi	that chart could be set to anything :)	[16:13]
MJR_	you can check out the alpha version at buttonwood.btcshares.com	[16:15]
MJR_	and no, i haven't implemented user accounts yet, that is the next phase	[16:15]
MJR_	after that geolocation features	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	MJR_ how did your central park orgy work out btw ?	[16:15]
MJR_	and then integrate with coinapult maybe	[16:15]
kakobrekla	not enough girls showed up	[16:16]
MJR_	mircea_popescu: it was union square park, and it went well	[16:16]
MJR_	kakobrekla:TRUE	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	you have to start a blog	[16:16]
MJR_	i have	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	or get some girl to blog for you	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	yes but in the old sense of the term	[16:16]
MJR_	blog.btchshares.com	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	here is how it went, here are pix, chronicle	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	blogs were originally historical record of sorts.	[16:16]
MJR_	blog.btcshares.com i will have the youtube video up there soon, as well as pics and a full recap	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	aha! coolness.	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	link here the recap when you get it	[16:17]
MJR_	i definitely will, i've been pretty tired, between work and trying to get the app working	[16:17]
MJR_	ny times wrote about it though	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	i saw.	[16:18]
MJR_	i think financial times should have an article soon, i'm supposed to grab drinks with that reporter this weekend	[16:18]
Chaang-Noi	what was this?	[16:18]
MJR_	read blog :)	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	o also, http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/i-dont-no-biari-i-know-a-littel-java/ i take it everyone knows planeshift ?	[16:19]
Chaang-Noi	it says server not found	[16:19]
Chaang-Noi	Firefox can't find the server at blog.btchshares.com. is the fail just me?	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	no, it's dns crapped out	[16:20]
Chaang-Noi	ahh	[16:20]
andreas	mircea_popescu: are you a java coder?	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	a try btcshares	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	not btcsh	[16:20]
Chaang-Noi	then can some tell me what is going on? i lack context	[16:20]
MJR_	sorry that was wrong link	[16:20]
mircea_popescu	andreas nope, i don't code.	[16:20]
MJR_	blog.btcshares.com	[16:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.46 = 4.38 BTC [-]	[16:20]
Chaang-Noi	ok thanks	[16:20]
Chaang-Noi	i meet a guy in bkk to trade fiat for btc	[16:21]
Chaang-Noi	and one other guy who wanted to as well but had communications fail	[16:21]
andreas	I just hoped to find another Java coder...	[16:22]
Chaang-Noi	so AM mines 1000 btc a day now if id that math right	[16:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00073496 = 4.9977 BTC [+]	[16:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00072822 = 0.1456 BTC [-]	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	if they keep it up they might just top s.dice's best month	[16:28]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00073518 = 3.1767 BTC [+]	[16:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7971 @ 0.00073531 = 5.8612 BTC [+]	[16:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6604 @ 0.00073578 = 4.8591 BTC [+]	[16:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11700 @ 0.00073594 = 8.6105 BTC [+]	[16:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00073917 = 6.209 BTC [+]	[16:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00074042 = 1.8881 BTC [+]	[16:29]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18854 @ 0.00074251 = 13.9993 BTC [+]	[16:29]
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Chaang-Noi	what is s dice best month?	[16:33]
Chaang-Noi	but anyway im surethis is the best ever stock from ipo just on dividends alone :)	[16:34]
Chaang-Noi	1500% stock price is pretty epic as well	[16:34]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-one-year-of-dividends/	[16:35]
mircea_popescu	20`007 btc in jan	[16:35]
Chaang-Noi	ahh we will kill that	[16:35]
Chaang-Noi	pretty damn sure we will be over 35,000 in may	[16:36]
Chaang-Noi	and then we need to add in the 10,000 units for sale at 2 btc each	[16:36]
Chaang-Noi	with all we are adding and the like id not be shocked if tehy paid out 50k btc this month	[16:37]
jurov	SELL: (CoinBr.iDiff-O):200 @ ฿0.11000000/ea wow someone is srs	[16:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15178078 = 151.7808 BTC [-]	[16:38]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.15970416 = 159.7042 BTC [-]	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	jurov isthat 11mn diff ?	[16:39]
KRS-1	so good buys ridhgt now are sdice and asicminer	[16:39]
jurov	mircea_popescu: yes. on may 15.	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	might happen	[16:39]
Chaang-Noi	mp likes s dice, i dont, i like am but mp does not	[16:40]
jurov	they actually need 0.5-0.9% more than that,. to recoup bf fees	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	s.mpoe to rule them all!	[16:40]
Chaang-Noi	you wish :)	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi i think atm by mkt cap its > s.dice and am together mwahaha	[16:40]
Chaang-Noi	mkt cap means shit to me	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	pretty much the only metric i care about.	[16:41]
jurov	threw some more iDiff-Os for 0.115 in, we'll see	[16:41]
Chaang-Noi	am is growing fast, s dice is falling fast	[16:41]
Chaang-Noi	lets see where we are in 6 months	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	in 6 months we will be at the realisation that am is a mining stock, and consequently it's capped.	[16:41]
ThickAsThieves	erik is still making branding and mktg mistakes	[16:41]
Chaang-Noi	and mp AM has [aid bak the ipo prioce like 3 times. s dice has not even once yet	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	won't take 6months either, 2 will be plenty.	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi that is just a result of friedcat's woeful financial management.	[16:42]
Chaang-Noi	yeah 2 will be plenty	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	he sold 50% of asicminer for 20k btc worth like 150k usd	[16:42]
Chaang-Noi	yeah, he needed 150k	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	eric sold 10% of sdice for ~40k btc, worth like whatever, 4mn	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	this is why people with a clue list on mpex.	[16:42]
Chaang-Noi	lol	[16:42]
ThickAsThieves	mp, the problem with those stats	[16:42]
ThickAsThieves	is they have nothing to do with the actual business	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves tell you what. as an entrepreneur	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	just the operator's front loaded income	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	would you rather sell half your business for 0.15 or 10% of it for 4 ?	[16:43]
Chaang-Noi	long term am is going to kill s dice as an investment:) no doubt	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	thats not the argument	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	it ias.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	because only an idiot will take the worse deal.	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	you arguing for an individual	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	not a business	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	and this means deals select : idiots there, sane people here.	[16:43]
Chaang-Noi	friedcat was late int he game, his company was a long shot... s dice was already established	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	friedcat is seizing the moment	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	erik is seizing hooker's asses	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	nah. his time to seize the moment was when the girl said	[16:44]
jurov	there's no reason am's tech lead will stay more than few months	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	actually erik is engaged to this girl he;'s beeb with for what, 7-8 years now ?	[16:44]
ThickAsThieves	mp, so you think erik is managing his business better?	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves no, i think he's just not as financially clueless as friedcat.	[16:44]
ThickAsThieves	as in, currently	[16:44]
Chaang-Noi	jurov in 2 months we should have 200 th or more bfl cant get close tothat	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	the hard working farmer who didn't understand banks ended up poorer than the lazy guy who never worked.	[16:45]
ThickAsThieves	so on one hand erik is better at making money for himself, and the other friedcat is running his business better	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	not quite.	[16:45]
ThickAsThieves	like apple vs google	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	friedcat is quite apt at preventing his investors from realising their risk premiums	[16:45]
ThickAsThieves	google is much more agile	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	erik is just getting a fair deal.	[16:45]
Chaang-Noi	as a share holder im happy with friedcat and would be pissed at eric, but i never bought in cuz i thought eric sold too high	[16:45]
Chaang-Noi	i think erik sold to a bunch of suckers :)	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi well ya, but you're not exactly famed for having a clue so.	[16:46]
Chaang-Noi	lol	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	selling for a right price != selling to a bunch of suckers.	[16:46]
ThickAsThieves	i think you have to decide which merits matter now	[16:46]
Chaang-Noi	erik did what was best for him, but in the long run i bet people who trusted him dont make their money back	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	it's a simple matter of you trying to make your shoestring into fabled riches.	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	this is not how economy works.	[16:46]
ThickAsThieves	how do you know that friedct isnt already thinking 10 steps ahead?	[16:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429792 BTC [+]	[16:47]
ThickAsThieves	he's not stupid	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	and in general, there's always going to be this wild eyed "o, i will invest 100k into btc i expect 3475786895 billion"	[16:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.46 = 7.3 BTC [-]	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	this is just immaturity.	[16:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.429793 BTC [+]	[16:47]
Chaang-Noi	he was able to sell it, and that is great for him, im glad he did, but as some one who was looking to buy, i think he sold too high and the people who did give him money wont see it back, i could be wrong but i doubt it	[16:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4299 BTC [+]	[16:47]
ThickAsThieves	he is positioned to be the definition of all that is bitcoin mining	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi and yet you don;t think 1.5 for am is too high.	[16:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [+]	[16:47]
mircea_popescu	you're pushing both ends of a strting here.	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	erik is positioned to be the first bitcoin gambler	[16:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4399 BTC [+]	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves mining is a quite different business from gambling.	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	you can make, AT MOST, X btc mining.	[16:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.44 = 0.88 BTC [+]	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	there's no cap to how much gambling can be worth.	[16:48]
mircea_popescu	a casino irl goes for 10bn	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	thats why he will diversify	[16:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.45 = 4.5 BTC [+]	[16:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [+]	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	yeah but erik is working too slowly	[16:48]
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mircea_popescu	if you have the time and curiosity, read warren buffett's discussion of his woes in the textile trade.	[16:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.48 BTC [+]	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	as a beginning investor he kinda shared some of your mistaken ideas/assumptions.	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	AM doesnt just mine	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	they sell miners	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	but the condensed moral is : it's never worth it to participate in a commodified business which is being actively researched	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	and will probably remain market leader in both permanently	[16:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.014675 = 0.1761 BTC [+]	[16:49]
mircea_popescu	because you'll end up spending loads on new tech but your income is pretty much fixed (or even declining)	[16:49]
Chaang-Noi	sorry phone call	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves the miners are only useful to mine.	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	ie, to compete with their core bvusiness.	[16:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.46 = 4.38 BTC [-]	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	just as soon as the fool	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	's margins are out	[16:50]
ThickAsThieves	this also presumes there arent more ways he can diversify	[16:50]
jurov	ThickAsThieves: you think am is like intel?	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	(ie, people willing to overpay just to feel warmly involved)	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	that business is dead.	[16:50]
Chaang-Noi	buying AM at 1.5 is not the same as buying at .1 i think AM was a long shot and might not have done as well as it did, but it did, and is turningout to be best btc investment evar	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi only if you get to sell.	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	you should have learned your lesson with pirate.	[16:51]
Chaang-Noi	mp i have sold some at 1.499	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	making bank is only good if you ever get to get it.	[16:51]
Chaang-Noi	what did i learn from pirate mp?	[16:51]
ThickAsThieves	also not that my position in AM is temporal	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	that making 1.5 out of .1 is ONLY GOOD if you actually take the 1.5	[16:51]
ThickAsThieves	I am selling them after all	[16:51]
ThickAsThieves	note*	[16:51]
Chaang-Noi	iv collected a lot more money from AM than i put in, and still hold a large amount	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	which is exactly what's going on here, by refusing his investors liquidity friedcat is fucking them in teh wazoo	[16:52]
Chaang-Noi	and mp lol that you think i know what happened with my accounts with pirate :)	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	course his investors are in general too clueless to realise, so he can manage to get away with it	[16:52]
Chaang-Noi	you*	[16:52]
ThickAsThieves	of course there is risk here	[16:52]
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ThickAsThieves	like every investment	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that's not the contention.	[16:52]
ThickAsThieves	its not like SDICE is less risky	[16:52]
Chaang-Noi	most of his investers are happy with a 300% dividend and a 1500% stock price	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	the contention is : am investors put in .1, took the risk, survived it.	[16:53]
ThickAsThieves	i think many investors are investing in the people	[16:53]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.44 = 1.32 BTC [-]	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	and now... they can't sell because 1 unit sold moves the market	[16:53]
ThickAsThieves	not just mining	[16:53]
ThickAsThieves	sdice liquidity is actually worse tham AM	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile clowns argue about how they're happy... well, no, they're stuck.	[16:53]
Chaang-Noi	mp AM is on like every exchange other than yours, and on some of them more than once	[16:53]
Chaang-Noi	it also sells otc	[16:53]
Chaang-Noi	AM is about the most liquid thing ever,	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi every exchange except mpex = every US state except rhodes island	[16:54]
ThickAsThieves	i have a much harder time profiting from my sdice position	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	lmao no way.	[16:54]
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Chaang-Noi	thing is, if it was listed on yuor exchange i would never buy it, no account	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	you;'d prolly dabble in passthroughs,	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	which is adequate to your level anyway neh ?	[16:54]
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ThickAsThieves	it's not fair to cloud the debate with insults	[16:55]
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mircea_popescu	as to "most liquid". most liquid means 10k btc a day.	[16:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	it doth not mean 5k a month or w/e	[16:55]
Chaang-Noi	its the only stock i hold at this point and its held direct with friedcat (other than some day trading with the pts)	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves people need to understand their place, otherwise goats will climb in the tree.	[16:55]
Chaang-Noi	lol mp is just jelly AMis best stock ever and they want nothing to do with him	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	AM volume has been about 500-1200btc a day for a while now	[16:56]
Chaang-Noi	and he is sad cuz s dice is crashing and that was the only stock he had :/	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	!ticker bt asicminer-pt	[16:56]
assbot	[BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 1.271 / 1.41753 / 1.49999 (1086 shares, 1539.4 BTC), 7D: 1.12 / 1.33266 / 1.49999 (2301 shares, 3066.5 BTC), 30D: 0.6269 / 1.14142 / 1.75 (7948 shares, 9072 BTC)	[16:56]
deadweasel	http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2008/08/19/the-incredible-tree-climbing-goats-of-morocco/ <-- relevant	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	certainly better than nothing.	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	plus BF	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	plus havelock	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	plus otc	[16:56]
ThickAsThieves	plus my fractionals	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15737871 = 157.3787 BTC [+]	[16:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16558317 = 165.5832 BTC [+]	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	Chaang-Noi i own millions of s.mpoe. it went from 2 to 70	[16:56]
Chaang-Noi	there are 5 or so pass throughs but most of the volume is OTc anyway	[16:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01565 = 0.0313 BTC [-]	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	this is still better than asicminer.	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	and this is why you need to be bitchslapped ocasionally, you forget reality in favour of your own fantasy	[16:57]
Chaang-Noi	but you cant sell 10% at 70 :)	[16:57]
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mircea_popescu	heh.	[16:57]
Chaang-Noi	lol, controling the price of your own stock on your own exchange, lol	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	anyway, the moral of all this : amateur hour will keep us small.	[16:57]
ThickAsThieves	i do think caution is important with AM	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	it's just about darned time everybody understands we;'re here to turn btc into a trillion dollar thing	[16:58]
Chaang-Noi	why TAT?	[16:58]
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ThickAsThieves	but it's no easy argument saying they are not top 3 if not #1 btc biz	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	not so that X dood gets to turn his civic in for a rover.	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves they are in the top, somewhere between 2 and 3 atm.	[16:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]	[16:58]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[16:59]
Chaang-Noi	yeah, goats are pretty damn awesome	[16:59]
Chaang-Noi	we even shit oil	[16:59]
Chaang-Noi	The droppings of the goats contain the kernels of the seeds they consume which are, strangely enough, used by locals to press and grind into oil.	[16:59]
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mircea_popescu	i am shocked and amazed how rapidly all that got resolved.	[17:01]
mircea_popescu	this chan may have a future.	[17:01]
ThickAsThieves	NOU!	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:02]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[17:02]
jurov	Goat thinks his droppings contain seeds of truth.	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	lmao. somebody should make a droppings essence, market it as perfume	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	Eau du Truth	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	or maybe his goat contains seeds of Chaang-Noi	[17:03]
Chaang-Noi	ill be back in 2 months when AM has 200th and bfl is bankrupt and getting sued :)	[17:03]
ThickAsThieves	you'll be back tomorrow, stop lyin	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	bfl is dead, there's no arguing that.	[17:03]
deadweasel	http://theweek.com/article/index/232745/the-8-year-old-who-discovered-a-65000-piece-of-whale-poop <---relevent	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	lol deadweasel bot keeping us appraised :D	[17:04]
ThickAsThieves	poop!	[17:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2500 @ 0.00072848 = 1.8212 BTC [-]	[17:04]
ThickAsThieves	look at that liquidity!	[17:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.015 = 1.2 BTC [-]	[17:06]
Chaang-Noi	lol	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	!ticker m s.mpoe	[17:06]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00070757 / 0.00072405 / 0.00074251 (455958 shares, 330.14 BTC), 7D: 0.00068174 / 0.00071656 / 0.00076411 (1817468 shares, 1,302.34 BTC), 30D: 0.00064 / 0.00070525 / 0.00076528 (9997737 shares, 7,050.96 BTC)	[17:06]
ThickAsThieves	it actually is a pretty nice price for mpoe	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	hater.	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	i've not sold any in a while, the volume is lower but the price is on a definite uptrend	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	which is mildly concerning	[17:07]
ThickAsThieves	uh oh	[17:08]
ThickAsThieves	mp is gonna squash the price	[17:08]
ThickAsThieves	its too dam high again	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	nah, not planning to sell any for a while.	[17:08]
Chaang-Noi	btc price is stable... crazy	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	let's rub this in	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	;;google btc not worth 100+ per stop buying	[17:09]
gribble	People! Bitcoin is not worth 100+ dollars per. STOP BUYING! pe ...: ; a flaw in the 21 million BTC? - Bitcoin Forum: ; KRAKEN.COM - US Exchange Opens Beta : Bitcoin - Reddit: (1 more message)	[17:09]
mircea_popescu	o look, above btc talk dun dun dun	[17:09]
Chaang-Noi	i sold at 134 230 and 255 then 135 again, i want 70 or 80	[17:10]
Chaang-Noi	50 would be3 awesome, i want more coins	[17:10]
Chaang-Noi	still not paid back reptiliia	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	i think lots of people do	[17:10]
ThickAsThieves	MPOE real depth: 15,507,117 shares bid 0.00039496 avg price 6124.63BTC total	[17:12]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves im not sure how trustworthy books are	[17:13]
mircea_popescu	in general, not just mpoe, not just mpex, not even just financials. mtgox book is puffy too	[17:13]
ThickAsThieves	just figured it be interesting	[17:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.0599 = 4.1198 BTC [-]	[17:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.06 = 4.12 BTC [+]	[17:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.07 BTC [+]	[17:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.15 BTC [+]	[17:14]
ThickAsThieves	sell your HIM, buy ASICM!	[17:14]
kakobrekla	sell him buy her	[17:14]
jurov	ThickAsThieves stfu. we want puts!	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, is him mostly a little mining, some cash on hand and bfl preorders ?	[17:15]
ThickAsThieves	make me an offer jurov	[17:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0151 = 1.057 BTC [+]	[17:16]
ThickAsThieves	bearing in mind my resources are limited	[17:16]
ThickAsThieves	HIM is 50% reinvest	[17:16]
ThickAsThieves	started with FPGAs	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	BFLs on order	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	it fell when BFL didnt deliver, and now has risen that BFL tricked everyone again	[17:17]
KRS-1	how often are those dividends paid again?	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	for HIM?	[17:18]
KRS-1	weekly?	[17:18]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 9 @ 0.014675 = 0.1321 BTC [+]	[17:18]
KRS-1	him-asicminer	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	?	[17:18]
KRS-1	its a good value right now	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	two different things	[17:18]
KRS-1	yes asicminer	[17:18]
ThickAsThieves	HIM pays monthly	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	AM is weekly	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	with some extras thrown in sometimes	[17:19]
KRS-1	thanks ill read up on those	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	friedcat has hinted at quarterly payouts for larger side deals	[17:19]
ThickAsThieves	but i might be reading into it	[17:19]
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mircea_popescu	afaik he was just testing the waters to see if he can move to monthly.	[17:20]
ThickAsThieves	he was referring to AM's reporting of financials	[17:21]
ThickAsThieves	and included this	[17:21]
ThickAsThieves	"How much have we spent and are they spent properly? How much have we gain via non-public big selling contracts? Most companies do this on a quarterly or yearly basis. We could and will also do this."	[17:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 23 @ 0.01565 = 0.36 BTC [+]	[17:22]
ThickAsThieves	so it's a bit wishy washy	[17:22]
ll	him just got some block erruptors too	[17:23]
ThickAsThieves	oh yeah	[17:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 295 @ 0.0007423 = 0.219 BTC [+]	[17:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4702 @ 0.00074251 = 3.4913 BTC [+]	[17:24]
ThickAsThieves	topace mentioned that yesterday	[17:24]
ThickAsThieves	like 10 or so blades	[17:24]
ThickAsThieves	at 13GH ea	[17:24]
ll	5	[17:24]
ThickAsThieves	only 5?	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	65 gh ya	[17:24]
mircea_popescu	not so much, but better than nothing	[17:25]
ThickAsThieves	i could swear he said more	[17:25]
ThickAsThieves	scams!	[17:25]
ll	http://www.lightbox.ca/~james/photo-6.png	[17:25]
ll	^^ thats them	[17:25]
ThickAsThieves	is that an emergency liquid-cooling pipe?	[17:25]
mircea_popescu	nice cooling lol	[17:26]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[17:26]
ThickAsThieves	oh it's a frame	[17:26]
ThickAsThieves	i see	[17:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 8 @ 0.01579 = 0.1263 BTC [+]	[17:27]
ll	yeah diy frame	[17:27]
ThickAsThieves	not bad	[17:27]
ThickAsThieves	much cleaner than my setup...	[17:27]
jborkl	Yeah, the PVC will not retain heat or be conductive, strong enough but still light weight. Good layout	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	actually, its a bad choice because it melts	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	and you don't want your structure melting	[17:28]
kakobrekla	it also burns	[17:28]
mircea_popescu	but for an ad interim works	[17:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0151 = 0.0755 BTC [-]	[17:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.015 = 0.3 BTC [-]	[17:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [-]	[17:29]
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mircea_popescu	sorta ontopic : the weirdest thing i know of is this miner who encased the boards in clay	[17:29]
mircea_popescu	has this sort of cabinet made out of clay.	[17:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01579 = 0.079 BTC [+]	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	he won't let me take pictures, but the best part is he just waters it	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	(the outside)	[17:30]
ThickAsThieves	heh	[17:30]
ThickAsThieves	humidifier	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	apparently that thing can take out a shitton of heat that way	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	provided it's not high temperature	[17:30]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]	[17:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01579 = 0.1579 BTC [+]	[17:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15730002 = 157.3 BTC [-]	[17:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16550667 = 165.5067 BTC [-]	[17:35]
mircea_popescu	so basically... options trading now pretty much works on the short side	[17:35]
KRS-1	10-13 ghash for $5K? doesnt seem very good	[17:37]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46 BTC [-]	[17:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.46 = 7.3 BTC [-]	[17:39]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 14 @ 0.014779 = 0.2069 BTC [+]	[17:43]
jurov	they should make miner with vaporizer :D	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	myeah.	[17:45]
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assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15198693 = 151.9869 BTC [-]	[17:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.15992594 = 159.9259 BTC [-]	[17:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.46 = 2.92 BTC [-]	[17:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 1 @ 0.014779 BTC [+]	[17:50]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 1.465 = 4.395 BTC [+]	[17:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0155 = 0.155 BTC [-]	[17:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.0146 = 0.73 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 150 @ 0.01452 = 2.178 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.01451 = 1.451 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 155 @ 0.01450003 = 2.2475 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 560 @ 0.01450002 = 8.12 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 195 @ 0.0145 = 2.8275 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [GSDPT] 26 @ 0.002976 = 0.0774 BTC [-]	[17:55]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-]	[17:55]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45001 BTC [-]	[17:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.45 = 2.9 BTC [-]	[17:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [+]	[17:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0155 = 0.2325 BTC [+]	[17:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 310 @ 0.0155 = 4.805 BTC [+]	[17:58]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 12 @ 0.0147 = 0.1764 BTC [+]	[17:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0155 = 1.55 BTC [+]	[18:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 80 @ 0.0145 = 1.16 BTC [-]	[18:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 4 @ 0.0144 = 0.0576 BTC [-]	[18:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.01425 = 0.1425 BTC [-]	[18:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.44 BTC [-]	[18:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.42331 BTC [-]	[18:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4233 BTC [-]	[18:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 1.42321 = 9.9625 BTC [-]	[18:08]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4232 BTC [-]	[18:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4231 = 5.6924 BTC [-]	[18:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.4231 = 7.1155 BTC [-]	[18:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4223 BTC [-]	[18:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0143 = 7.15 BTC [-]	[18:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01421002 = 7.105 BTC [-]	[18:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01421001 BTC [-]	[18:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 73 @ 0.01421 = 1.0373 BTC [-]	[18:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 210 @ 0.0142 = 2.982 BTC [-]	[18:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1000 @ 0.0142 = 14.2 BTC [-]	[18:10]
Chaang-Noi	lol no volume	[18:10]
Chaang-Noi	onlything trading	[18:10]
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jcpham	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj4nJ1YEAp4	[18:14]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1 @ 0.000697 BTC [+]	[18:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 2.08 BTC [-]	[18:28]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4450 @ 0.00074138 = 3.2991 BTC [-]	[18:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.01475 = 0.0738 BTC [+]	[18:36]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [+]	[18:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.01479 = 0.1479 BTC [+]	[18:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 100 @ 0.0145 = 1.45 BTC [-]	[18:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01475 = 0.2213 BTC [+]	[18:39]
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kakobrekla	omg that depth chart is scam, kbtc and kusd scales are independent	[18:41]
kakobrekla	i thought it was fishy.	[18:41]
MJR_	where?	[18:41]
kakobrekla	http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png	[18:41]
kakobrekla	kusd scale changed	[18:41]
kakobrekla	from yest	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	haha	[18:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0145 = 0.145 BTC [-]	[18:43]
Tykling	what does the output from assbot mean ?	[18:44]
kakobrekla	poop	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	[exchange] [stocl] [qty] @ [price] = [total] [change]	[18:45]
kakobrekla	oh yeah that	[18:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.454 BTC [+]	[18:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 1.45 = 8.7 BTC [-]	[18:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01485 = 0.2228 BTC [+]	[18:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0149 = 0.0745 BTC [+]	[18:46]
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Chaang-Noi	kako that is what i told you	[18:46]
Chaang-Noi	the scale is randomly set and means nothing	[18:46]
Chaang-Noi	like 8 hours ago...	[18:47]
Bugpowder	kakobrekla: yeah I noticed that when I refreshed	[18:47]
kakobrekla	no it means you need to take it into consideration	[18:47]
Bugpowder	last night	[18:47]
kakobrekla	Chaang-Noi hm i missed that somehow	[18:47]
Chaang-Noi	you said "it crossed" but i said that does not mean anything	[18:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15185377 = 151.8538 BTC [-]	[18:48]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.15979648 = 159.7965 BTC [-]	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3001 = 0.6002 BTC [-]	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.3 BTC [-]	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.29 = 2.9 BTC [-]	[18:48]
Chaang-Noi	it was right after you said it crossed, but you did not respond to me	[18:48]
kakobrekla	dunno	[18:48]
Chaang-Noi	but its not a scam	[18:48]
Chaang-Noi	the scale is just set to best fit that data for that time, so when it crosses means nothing	[18:49]
Chaang-Noi	cuz we can make it cross when ever	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 20 @ 0.0149 = 0.298 BTC [+]	[18:50]
kakobrekla	its as scam as i am a cunt.	[18:50]
Chaang-Noi	lol okay	[18:50]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.0149 = 0.149 BTC [+]	[18:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.01485 = 7.425 BTC [-]	[18:51]
kakobrekla	so did you shop the cane to tortilla guy or what	[18:51]
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Chaang-Noi	i paid him the 700	[18:52]
kakobrekla	i mean the pimp cane	[18:52]
kakobrekla	to go along with the hat	[18:52]
Chaang-Noi	kako https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197842.0 but was not me	[18:52]
kakobrekla	aw	[18:52]
kakobrekla	whats with the face	[18:53]
kakobrekla	yeah i know reptile guy but meh	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	is that guy still supernoding ?	[18:53]
Chaang-Noi	i think he is doing it now	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	mpoe-pr is on vacation and the new girls are fucking clueless	[18:53]
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kakobrekla	this one is nice too	[18:54]
kakobrekla	http://s20.postimg.org/r7ep43qrh/superfly.jpg	[18:54]
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mircea_popescu	so i have no idea like what's what on the trollboard.	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	ahaha kickass	[18:54]
kakobrekla	i just found out today im in scammers parts of the forum lol	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	you're wut ?	[18:55]
Chaang-Noi	scammers part of the forum?	[18:55]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192905.0	[18:55]
kakobrekla	just hit page 2 so aparently its done.	[18:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.4035 BTC [-]	[18:56]
Chaang-Noi	oh lol	[18:56]
kakobrekla	i mean dead	[18:56]
Chaang-Noi	i was called a scammer once, my scam was i called nefario a scammer, the the guy who called me a scammer got scammed by nefario and appoligized... id not worry kako	[18:56]
kakobrekla	i do not	[18:56]
kakobrekla	its resolved before it got to my attention	[18:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 7 @ 0.01469 = 0.1028 BTC [+]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01511999 BTC [+]	[18:59]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01512 = 0.378 BTC [+]	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	did bfl eventually deliver to anyone btw ?	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	seeing how iirc kakobrekla was called a scammer for the bitbet april bet	[19:00]
kakobrekla	from today http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/weve-got-a-butterfly-labs-bitcoin-miner-and-its-pretty-darn-fast/	[19:01]
kakobrekla	mircea_popescu http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/05/weve-got-a-butterfly-labs-bitcoin-miner-and-its-pretty-darn-fast/	[19:01]
kakobrekla	eh	[19:01]
kakobrekla	http://bfl.ptz.ro/	[19:02]
kakobrekla	this	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	no but i mean tio people.	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	not to press contacts/shills	[19:02]
kakobrekla	see second link	[19:02]
Chaang-Noi	mp yes some people have them	[19:02]
kakobrekla	1 according to the list :D	[19:02]
Chaang-Noi	scared got one	[19:03]
Chaang-Noi	james got one	[19:03]
Chaang-Noi	some other press people did	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	all i see there is no	[19:03]
kakobrekla	i see one yes	[19:03]
Chaang-Noi	i know personally two people not on that list who have one unit	[19:04]
kakobrekla	;:bc,stats	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	981 2013/03/07 20265 Yes 0 0 2 0 bitcoinerS	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	da fuck ?	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	o nm	[19:05]
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Chaang-Noi	:)	[19:07]
jurov	kakobrekla: another bitstamp lameness: http://imgur.com/a/yg9UH	[19:08]
kakobrekla	hm which part?	[19:10]
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jurov	part 9953	[19:11]
assbot	[BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.24795 BTC [+]	[19:11]
kakobrekla	;;google part 9953	[19:11]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.469 BTC [+]	[19:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1821 @ 0.00072848 = 1.3266 BTC [-]	[19:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4170 @ 0.00072823 = 3.0367 BTC [-]	[19:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00072822 = 4.4421 BTC [-]	[19:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5109 @ 0.00072593 = 3.7088 BTC [-]	[19:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.46999 BTC [+]	[19:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 16 @ 1.47 = 23.52 BTC [+]	[19:16]
kakobrekla	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=200213.0;topicseen	[19:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01512 = 0.378 BTC [+]	[19:18]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.469 = 5.876 BTC [-]	[19:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 14 @ 0.01512 = 0.2117 BTC [+]	[19:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 1 @ 0.01512 BTC [+]	[19:38]
mircea_popescu	http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/elizabeth-warren-student-loans-91079.html#ixzz2SkL3bhPH	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	lol this shows promise	[19:39]
mircea_popescu	"since you have free money, give everyone some"	[19:39]
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benkay	hey! whatchall think about btcd?	[19:44]
kakobrekla	i wonder if the got spec	[19:45]
kakobrekla	they	[19:45]
benkay	whaddaya mean by got spec?	[19:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 14 @ 0.00999 = 0.1399 BTC [+]	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	benkay tell us about it ?	[19:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1000 @ 0.00997 = 9.97 BTC [-]	[19:46]
benkay	bitcoin port in go	[19:46]
benkay	hilarious pull quotes:	[19:46]
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benkay	"in the process found issues with unit tests, non portable functions..."	[19:47]
benkay	https://blog.conformal.com/btcd-a-bitcoind-alternative-written-in-go/	[19:47]
benkay	written by professionals	[19:47]
benkay	who don't laugh like apes when someone says "unit test"	[19:47]
benkay	"all code can and shall have test coverage"	[19:48]
benkay	squee	[19:48]
benkay	all of the squee, you guys	[19:48]
benkay	and this was done because someone cared	[19:48]
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benkay	wtf does xchat not support multiple connections?	[19:52]
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benkay	derp derp derp	[19:55]
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benkay	anyways	[19:57]
benkay	they're publishing this, notionally data extracted from their client	[19:57]
benkay	http://blocksafari.com/	[19:57]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.468 = 5.872 BTC [+]	[19:59]
kakobrekla	btcd	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:57.32 ( kakobrekl ) do you have any spec written? im asking because bitcoind does not	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:57.49 ( @marco ) that is a tough question	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:57.57 ( @jy-p ) if you check out the godoc and comments, btcwire encodes a lot of the spec-related info	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:57.58 ( @marco ) bitcoind is the spec essentially	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:58.08 ( @marco ) we have documented heavily along the way	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:58.18 ( kakobrekl ) so thats a no then?	[19:59]
kakobrekla	18:58.28 ( @marco ) it is looking like we will help getting the spec in order once development slows down a little	[20:00]
kakobrekla	18:58.36 ( @marco ) it's a half no	[20:00]
kakobrekla	18:58.55 ( @jy-p ) we obviously don't have a draft RFC :)	[20:00]
kakobrekla	18:59.10 ( @dhill ) if you run godoc, that will give you a lot of information	[20:00]
benkay	cool!	[20:00]
benkay	what are your thoughts on their response?	[20:00]
kakobrekla	my thoughs are : i hope they beat bitcoind guys to it	[20:01]
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benkay	to a spec?	[20:01]
kakobrekla	yes	[20:01]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.468 BTC [+]	[20:01]
kakobrekla	they seem to be capable	[20:02]
benkay	is bitcoind team actively working on a spec?	[20:02]
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kakobrekla	19:03.19 ( @marco ) kakobrekl: http://godoc.org/github.com/conformal/btcwire	[20:04]
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benkay	truff1es only your body can tell you that	[20:11]
thestringpuller	now havelock has it's own ASICM passthru?	[20:12]
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thestringpuller	Asicminer is officially for hipsters.	[20:12]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: any new articles?	[20:12]
deadweasel	rich hipsters	[20:12]
benkay	bitcoin: officially for hipsters	[20:12]
deadweasel	which are rare	[20:12]
ThickAsThieves	the ASICM on Havelock is an extension of the fractional AM assets I have on Bitfunder and BTCT	[20:13]
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mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-dilemma-of-fake-money/	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	just finished it.	[20:18]
benkay	as I said to a lady last night: "banks offer returns. students don't. end of story"	[20:18]
thestringpuller	reading trilema when I should be studying: Priceless	[20:19]
thestringpuller	BTW mircea_popescu senator elizabeth warren is HOTT	[20:19]
thestringpuller	jkjk	[20:19]
benkay	trilema's probably a better education than whatever you're studying, thestringpuller	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	benkay read that article srsly :D	[20:20]
benkay	not to kiss ass or anything	[20:20]
benkay	i ams, mp, I ams.	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	a	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	so that explains the coincidence lol	[20:20]
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benkay	really? they're rarely in excess of 2k words	[20:21]
benkay	I hope that Mencius Moldbug engages with you on this one, MP	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	benkay he's already got one he carefully avoids lol	[20:22]
thestringpuller	Trilema is a differenet subject than I'm studying.	[20:22]
thestringpuller	I'd love to see mircea_popescu write an article on operating systems, or HLSL	[20:22]
benkay	as in topic of bitcoin?	[20:22]
benkay	homie	[20:22]
benkay	get a job as a jr sysadmin	[20:22]
benkay	or devops monkey as they're called	[20:22]
thestringpuller	Been there, done that.	[20:22]
benkay	wait wat	[20:23]
benkay	and you're back in school?	[20:23]
thestringpuller	I'm forever in school.	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	ya what ?	[20:23]
thestringpuller	It's my limbo.	[20:23]
benkay	wat wat wat	[20:23]
thestringpuller	I'm in limbo yo!	[20:23]
benkay	did you fail out of the job market?	[20:23]
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thestringpuller	No, like mircea_popescu, I am "a difficult student".	[20:23]
thestringpuller	I ask too many questions.	[20:23]
thestringpuller	Question too much authority.	[20:23]
benkay	it's a shame you didn't find a shop where that kind of spirit is encouraged	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[20:24]
pgp	interesting - only 43k volume in last 24h... VERY light trading...	[20:24]
benkay	ready for a rollover?	[20:25]
benkay	<< doesn't know what he's saying	[20:25]
pgp	yes, I think so	[20:25]
thestringpuller	benkay: I did find a shop where that is encouraged. Too bad capitalist countries don't condone true entrepreneurship	[20:26]
thestringpuller	I think mircea_popescu is one of the flagship authors on the subject of "pop-culture entrepreneurship in the land of capitalism"	[20:27]
benkay	what is 'true entrepreneurship'?	[20:27]
benkay	and how were you fucked for practicing it?	[20:27]
thestringpuller	the key to true entrepreneurship means solving a legitimate problem	[20:28]
thestringpuller	pop culture entrepreneurship involves creating a problem that really doesn't exist and marketing a solution to it, to grab the next round of funding from the daddy figure you never had growing up	[20:29]
pgp	yes... not an "invented" problem...	[20:29]
jurov	ThickAsThieves, I would use some other word than "fractional".. it may have unwanted associations :D	[20:29]
benkay	sure!	[20:29]
benkay	but that works all the time in america	[20:30]
benkay	see: New Relic	[20:30]
jurov	but it would be rather clever, selling same asicminer shares on multiple places :D	[20:30]
thestringpuller	who was that guy who sold matches...	[20:30]
benkay	Heroku	[20:30]
benkay	Github	[20:30]
benkay	Tesla	[20:30]
benkay	all these all also fall into the bucket of "bullshit we do to make more bullshit for idiots"	[20:31]
thestringpuller	Github is technically useful, but I see where you are going.	[20:31]
thestringpuller	Tesla is still too young.	[20:31]
benkay	"technically useful" bro has you ever done the distributed teams thing?	[20:32]
thestringpuller	Yup. Using SVN	[20:32]
thestringpuller	we begged for github	[20:32]
benkay	github eliminates massive comms overhead	[20:32]
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benkay	tech stuff you're not interested.	[20:32]
benkay	actually biz stuff, but w/e	[20:33]
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thestringpuller	so github is like puppet labs	[20:33]
thestringpuller	in how they provide value	[20:33]
benkay	another huge value creator	[20:33]
thestringpuller	you could either build the automation yourself, or buy it from someone else.	[20:33]
thestringpuller	That's how Atlassian became so big in under a decade.	[20:34]
benkay	I'm missing the last pieces in how you got fucked for practicing some sort of atypical entrepreneurship.	[20:34]
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benkay	if you ask infinity times does it matter?	[20:36]
thestringpuller	I'm not very political.	[20:36]
mircea_popescu	pop culture entrepreneurship involves creating a problem that really doesn't exist and marketing a solution to it, to grab the next round of funding from the daddy figure you never had growing up << amazinglty apt summary	[20:36]
benkay	liberal, democrat, libertarian are all moronic simplifications	[20:37]
benkay	no human with opinions worth paying attention to is a strict any one of those	[20:37]
benkay	except maybe MM with his "reactionary" thing	[20:37]
thestringpuller	My political discourse usually involves: allowing people to have a choice, vs. not allowing them to make a choice.	[20:38]
thestringpuller	which is oversimplified	[20:38]
benkay	mencius modbug. if you can't handle MP, you really can't handle MM.	[20:38]
benkay	derp of derp course it's derp over derplified	[20:38]
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benkay	the only way to understand someone's politics is to fucking talk to them about things that are not politics	[20:39]
benkay	well, things that are related to the real world	[20:39]
BitHub	satoshi - the father figure we've all been waiting for	[20:39]
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jurov	/o	[20:39]
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mircea_popescu	benkay moldbug never says nigger tho	[20:40]
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thestringpuller	it's weird to hear a non american use that word	[20:40]
BitHub	^django unchained fault	[20:40]
benkay	a bet	[20:41]
benkay	a hunch	[20:41]
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benkay	originating in the murkey intuitive parts of my brain	[20:41]
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benkay	murky*	[20:41]
thestringpuller	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7sODzCqvvs lol	[20:42]
benkay	thestringpuller I am genuinely interested in the series of events that pushed you back into the ivory tower	[20:42]
thestringpuller	ivory tower?	[20:43]
benkay	mircea_popescu: he has a different agenda. using that word would drive off the soft-minded he's trying to implant viral ideas into.	[20:43]
thestringpuller	I've always been here	[20:43]
thestringpuller	Since 06	[20:43]
thestringpuller	I am a difficult student	[20:43]
pgp	who is going to bitcoin conference?	[20:43]
thestringpuller	so they make it difficult to graduate	[20:43]
benkay	i am!	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	benkay exactly.	[20:43]
pgp	me too	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	im impressed you know this tho. how'd you figure it ?	[20:44]
benkay	it's not obvious?	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	it is obvious	[20:44]
benkay	that word fries circuits in america.	[20:44]
mircea_popescu	this is a prime reason to suspect nobody sees it.	[20:44]
benkay	MM wants functional brain circuitry.	[20:44]
benkay	he just wants to perform low-level hardware attacks on complete systems.	[20:44]
benkay	you, I don't think, care terribly about keeping the systems you operate on intact.	[20:45]
benkay	understanding (again, I think) that there's an infinite well of humans who might receive your ideas.	[20:45]
jurov	guys, who is this moldbug? some mythical figure?	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	this is an interesting aprpoach.	[20:45]
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mircea_popescu	jurov unqualified reservations @ blogspot	[20:45]
benkay	but do you appreciate good ideas?	[20:47]
benkay	independent of the writing?	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	if it's not clear, what i was saying is obvious is the observation that "he's trying to implant viral ideas into"	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	kinda why i don't like the guy's blog.	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	yet another marketeering blog ? such a waste of time.	[20:47]
benkay	har	[20:47]
benkay	he's marketeering new paradigms to undermine the legitimacy of the USG. I can get behind that.	[20:47]
mircea_popescu	meh.	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	i like honest people.	[20:48]
benkay	you push the 'life is all domination and submission at all scales' trip	[20:48]
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thestringpuller	best investment advice ever: http://i.imgur.com/aRZvMZ6.jpg	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	benkay only in those parts where "common agreement" diverges too much towards "lalala i can make it so"	[20:48]
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benkay	sorry, mp, I don't understand what you're getting at.	[20:52]
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mircea_popescu	i push the submission/dominance trip in those fields where people are totally off the deep end with the "i can do everything" and "agreement makes it real" nonsense	[20:53]
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benkay	mircea_popescu, where's the dishonesty in MM's work?	[20:56]
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mircea_popescu	take the cybernetic analogy.	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	if you want to get the borgs to revolt, it's one way to tell the borgs here's what you are, here's how things work, get fucked	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	it's nother to try and get a virus on	[20:57]
mircea_popescu	now. pick the honest approach.	[20:57]
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jurov	"I promise - this is my last Bitcoin post. I fear it attracts low-quality traffic."	[21:02]
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benkay	now, MP, what if the borgs are so thoroughly programmed that their filters just escape anything that threatens the binary?	[21:07]
benkay	(to get excessively nerdy with the metaphors)	[21:07]
benkay	sure honesty is great	[21:07]
benkay	but if you need to break through a firewall...	[21:07]
asciilifeform	benkay: moldbug doesn't work on the masses. and he never intended to. his "red pill" is for the intellectually-curious/adventurous, by his own admission.	[21:08]
benkay	who are nonetheless thoroughly programmed.	[21:09]
asciilifeform	nowhere on this planet are the unprogrammed to be found en masse.	[21:09]
asciilifeform	hence his "red pill" analogy. you need to be someone whose programming is already hickupping to benefit from the pill.	[21:10]
benkay	sure. i hold that "honesty" is incompatible with his goals, which are to further derail already degrading programming.	[21:10]
jurov	he seems to go into lengthy elaborations only to end each article "usg will kill it anyway"	[21:11]
benkay	I don't know that MP cares about convincing a small slice of the American technocracy that the USG is broken and/or dying.	[21:11]
benkay	jurov, I think that's a meta-joke. "none of this matters anyways because the thing I'm trying to tell you ruins your life regularly will ruin your life about this as well."	[21:12]
benkay	just 'cause you can't parse the idea doesn't mean anything, truff1es.	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	benkay i don't care.	[21:12]
benkay	see?!	[21:12]
mircea_popescu	tbh, it probably could be said that unlike the moldbug fellow i have the advantage of not reallty giving a shiot avbout the us government	[21:13]
KRS-1	folks starting to predict sub $90 dollar market price now	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	but then again his caring is what'll perpetuate it, if even in the negative	[21:13]
KRS-1	idk bout that htough	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	much like the red marking on the girl's ass perpetuates the switch vibration long after the switch has rested.	[21:13]
benkay	wat	[21:13]
benkay	the mark does nothing	[21:14]
benkay	it's an indicator.	[21:14]
benkay	that a thing happened.	[21:14]
jcpham	can invest in Tesla yet with my bitcoins directly	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	ya. the thing is there, in the negative.	[21:14]
jcpham	or do i have to keep waiting	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	the apple carries your bite sort of thing	[21:14]
jcpham	tesla should just a bitcoin client in the car	[21:14]
jcpham	accidentally a word	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	nowhere on this planet are the unprogrammed to be found en masse. << unprogramming is actually trivially simple to do. takes about two weeks.	[21:15]
benkay	I am not following at all, mp.	[21:15]
jcpham	put	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	benkay so ask a question.	[21:15]
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benkay	trying to work one up	[21:15]
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jurov	jcpham, why? for better nerdgasm?	[21:16]
jcpham	nerdgasm all over the batteries	[21:16]
jcpham	for sure	[21:16]
jcpham	sorry i'm not paying attention to your conversation	[21:16]
jcpham	looks like a lot of words	[21:16]
mircea_popescu	jcpham you;'re such a week troll you know :D	[21:17]
jcpham	good	[21:17]
jcpham	unicorns	[21:17]
jcpham	it's weak fuckhead	[21:17]
jcpham	not week like 7 days	[21:17]
jurov	okay jcpham, go back polishing your tesla.. oh moment, before that tell me, did elon apologize to ny times?	[21:17]
jurov	i have a bet	[21:17]
jcpham	where's tiberiusv	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	he did didn't he ?	[21:18]
jcpham	bring him out	[21:18]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[21:18]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 112.05000, Best ask: 112.67230, Bid-ask spread: 0.62230, Last trade: 112.05000, 24 hour volume: 33089.17796065, 24 hour low: 108.80000, 24 hour high: 115.21589, 24 hour vwap: 112.07752	[21:18]
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jcpham	mircea_popescu channel is sausage party	[21:19]
jurov	i doubt assbot wants to admint tiberiusiv for third time	[21:19]
jurov	after two bans	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	he got banned ?!	[21:19]
jcpham	someone got baned from here	[21:19]
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jcpham	wow	[21:19]
jurov	yes, he got	[21:19]
jcpham	did he call kakobrekla a cnut	[21:20]
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jurov	;;seen tiberiusiv	[21:21]
gribble	tiberiusiv was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 18 hours, 51 minutes, and 12 seconds ago: you cant read english paragraphs	[21:21]
jcpham	he gets upset when poor people speak	[21:21]
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jborkl	he got klined or banned	[21:21]
mircea_popescu	the former is not much of an acxcomplishment	[21:22]
jurov	truff1es that includes you	[21:22]
benkay	zing!	[21:22]
benkay	nah trufs don't need adoration, just attention	[21:22]
jurov	i luke truffles (no homo)	[21:22]
benkay	not getting enough at home i warrant	[21:22]
jurov	*like	[21:22]
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mircea_popescu	lol is the no homo because of luke or truffles ?	[21:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 5 @ 0.0147 = 0.0735 BTC [-]	[21:27]
jurov	no comment	[21:27]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.464899 BTC [+]	[21:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4649 BTC [+]	[21:29]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.465 BTC [+]	[21:29]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 10 @ 0.014675 = 0.1468 BTC [+]	[21:32]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 3 @ 0.014678 = 0.044 BTC [+]	[21:33]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 27 @ 0.014679 = 0.3963 BTC [+]	[21:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C101T] 1000 @ 0.15511341 = 155.1134 BTC [+]	[21:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [O.USD.C098T] 1000 @ 0.16330751 = 163.3075 BTC [+]	[21:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0147 = 0.5145 BTC [-]	[21:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0147 = 0.0588 BTC [-]	[21:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 13 @ 0.014679 = 0.1908 BTC [+]	[21:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4750 @ 0.00072752 = 3.4557 BTC [+]	[21:43]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: more articles please	[21:46]
thestringpuller	nothing left to read on trilemma :P	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:47]
thestringpuller	i see how it is	[21:49]
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mircea_popescu	i have your subscription nao so lalala	[21:50]
thestringpuller	BUT I WANT MOAR	[21:51]
thestringpuller	I NEED MOAR TRILEMA!!!!	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	hit the title, it reads a random article	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	prolly in romanian.	[21:51]
thestringpuller	so how do I know you aren't a vampire?	[21:51]
thestringpuller	or related to dracula?	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	well... i don't like girls on the rag...	[21:53]
mod6	haha	[21:53]
TomServo	mircea_popescu: what was so loathsome about Guatemala?	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	i'm not even sure where to begin.	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	just, retarded peeps.	[21:56]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.014679 = 0.0734 BTC [+]	[21:56]
TomServo	fair enough	[21:57]
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thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: what do you think of the match king?	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	dunno what that is	[21:58]
thestringpuller	Ivar Kreuger	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	but i'd rather have a match than a lighter	[21:58]
thestringpuller	this was before lighters	[21:59]
thestringpuller	haha	[21:59]
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thestringpuller	matches rule	[21:59]
thestringpuller	FIRE	[21:59]
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mircea_popescu	anyway. murky 1900s stuff.	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072607 = 3.1373 BTC [-]	[22:00]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9845 @ 0.00072593 = 7.1468 BTC [-]	[22:00]
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thestringpuller	;;ticker	[22:03]
gribble	BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 112.98000, Best ask: 113.34397, Bid-ask spread: 0.36397, Last trade: 113.34398, 24 hour volume: 32826.20339078, 24 hour low: 108.80000, 24 hour high: 115.21589, 24 hour vwap: 112.01367	[22:03]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [RSM] 2 @ 0.009 = 0.018 BTC [+]	[22:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4321 @ 0.00072622 = 3.138 BTC [+]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8196 @ 0.00072593 = 5.9497 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00071973 = 3.7786 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 998 @ 0.0007181 = 0.7167 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7800 @ 0.00071367 = 5.5666 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.00071 = 7.1 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3453 @ 0.00070978 = 2.4509 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5521 @ 0.00070758 = 3.9065 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1361 @ 0.00070674 = 0.9619 BTC [-]	[22:07]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 1.466 = 7.33 BTC [+]	[22:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.48 BTC [+]	[22:08]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.484599 BTC [+]	[22:10]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 1.4846 = 31.1766 BTC [+]	[22:10]
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thestringpuller	BUY MPOE	[22:13]
thestringpuller	BUY BUY BUY	[22:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 52 @ 0.0148 = 0.7696 BTC [+]	[22:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.2998 = 0.5996 BTC [+]	[22:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.0149 = 0.2235 BTC [+]	[22:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.0149 = 0.5215 BTC [+]	[22:30]
b0n1	boring market...	[22:37]
b0n1	wanna see some action... mircea_popescu what about buying 5000 BTC on market order ?	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	noty.	[22:38]
mircea_popescu	action is bad for business.	[22:38]
b0n1	boring...	[22:39]
b0n1	pushing it up to 150 would be good for business too	[22:39]
b0n1	feels like everybody fell asleep watching the market	[22:40]
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mircea_popescu	boring is the idea.	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	boring pushes worhtless speculators out and actual business in.	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	this is kinda what we want to happen.	[22:41]
b0n1	yeah i know	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	kinda sucked all the benefit from speculators dry, got the press, that pie is eaten.	[22:41]
mircea_popescu	the game now is being boring.	[22:42]
b0n1	but couldnt this happen a bit more up?	[22:42]
taub	just wait	[22:42]
mircea_popescu	well anything could jhappen	[22:42]
taub	congestion is followed by moves	[22:42]
taub	http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1367650070909.png	[22:43]
taub	we're off my prophecy	[22:44]
taub	nobody is save now	[22:44]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 35 @ 0.01499 = 0.5247 BTC [+]	[22:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 50 @ 0.015 = 0.75 BTC [+]	[22:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 15 @ 0.01512 = 0.2268 BTC [+]	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/gtrl-or-gtfo/#comment-93130	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	ok this kicks ass	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	apparently they aren't related to the pumping ?!	[22:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 9 @ 0.01512 = 0.1361 BTC [+]	[22:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01673 BTC [+]	[22:47]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 49 @ 0.01674 = 0.8203 BTC [+]	[22:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 25 @ 0.01519 = 0.3798 BTC [+]	[22:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 5 @ 0.1056 = 0.528 BTC [-]	[22:48]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01674 BTC [+]	[22:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 12 @ 0.01519 = 0.1823 BTC [+]	[22:49]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 50 @ 0.01776 = 0.888 BTC [+]	[22:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.01519 = 0.0304 BTC [+]	[22:50]
b0n1	i think there has to happen something to influence more people foreign to btc. Cant imagine that without an event with greater impact the market could go out of this quietness	[22:50]
jborkl	New chip/board status: not arriving tomorrow.	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	lol jborkl	[22:51]
jborkl	socking news eh?	[22:51]
jborkl	shocking	[22:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 39 @ 0.0152 = 0.5928 BTC [+]	[22:52]
b0n1	mircea_popescu, whats you oppinion on future market movements?	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	i dunno ?	[22:53]
thestringpuller	b0n1: translation: he doesn't care	[22:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.01519 = 0.1671 BTC [-]	[22:54]
benkay	"the only thing feeps shear is being left out"	[22:54]
benkay	u don sae	[22:54]
thestringpuller	ideally I would think mircea_popescu would want the price to be stable more than anything, despite the spot price	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	well simply put if people can't do business in btc people won't do business in btc	[22:55]
dub	jborkl: what channel is that from?	[23:00]
jborkl	I got it from a private channel, and reposted it	[23:01]
jborkl	not directed at me	[23:01]
jcpham	jborkl: just two more weeks!	[23:02]
jborkl	shit, I have been saying that since November	[23:02]
mircea_popescu	no fucking way two weeks ?	[23:03]
jborkl	I don't think so, I think I will not see anything - minimum 1 month	[23:04]
jborkl	most likely longer	[23:04]
benkay	b0n1: mp is running a a financial operation that makes money when the market stays flat. he'll want the market to stay flat.	[23:04]
jborkl	that is just what I am thinking	[23:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3639 @ 0.00070674 = 2.5718 BTC [-]	[23:05]
benkay	actually, this might be a good time to subscribe to an MPOE bond issuance.	[23:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2661 @ 0.0007058 = 1.8781 BTC [-]	[23:05]
benkay	you if you're crazy and desire absurd returns and don't care about wacky principal writedowns...	[23:05]
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thestringpuller	benkay: actually mpoe bonds are sometimes good during volatility...	[23:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 11 @ 0.0152 = 0.1672 BTC [+]	[23:10]
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thestringpuller	it's only when the volatility is so extreme that insuring against price momvements is like trying to provide flood insurance during the great flood	[23:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 2 @ 0.0144 = 0.0288 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 10 @ 0.015 = 0.15 BTC [+]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01480001 = 2.96 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 109 @ 0.0148 = 1.6132 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 200 @ 0.01460001 = 2.92 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 161 @ 0.0146 = 2.3506 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 70 @ 0.0145 = 1.015 BTC [-]	[23:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 192 @ 0.01440001 = 2.7648 BTC [-]	[23:11]
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mircea_popescu	b0n1: mp is running a a financial operation that makes money when the market stays flat. << this isn't actually right	[23:11]
mircea_popescu	atm the market is flat and im making a ton because people shortsold.	[23:12]
thestringpuller	why did people short sell?	[23:12]
mircea_popescu	prolly in anticipation of big moves	[23:12]
thestringpuller	I think people short sold because buying was too expensive.	[23:12]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.1056 = 0.3168 BTC [-]	[23:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476999 BTC [-]	[23:13]
benkay	mircea_popescu how would you describe the underwriting operation?	[23:13]
assbot	[BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 17 @ 0.1057 = 1.7969 BTC [+]	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	bonds make money when the option traders are wrong	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	option traders make money *(from the bonds) when they are right	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	it doesn't matter if flat, up, down.	[23:14]
mircea_popescu	it just matters if right or wrong	[23:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.477 = 2.954 BTC [+]	[23:14]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4788 BTC [+]	[23:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.0007058 = 2.6115 BTC [-]	[23:15]
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benkay	thanks, mp	[23:18]
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benkay	hence why the bot takes it hard during months of huge moves	[23:19]
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benkay	makes some guesses about where price will end up based on whatever, and when those numbers are exceeded and there are options traders on the other side...	[23:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	sometimes it makes a killing, like the 10k in jan or w./e it was	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	sometimes it gets hammered, like the 15k in march	[23:20]
mircea_popescu	such it goes.	[23:20]
assbot	[BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01799 BTC [+]	[23:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 2.24 = 6.72 BTC [+]	[23:21]
mircea_popescu	the value of the capital structure of course being that risk is correctly distributed so as to not generate the sort of problems irl banks have	[23:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]	[23:22]
assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 5 @ 0.0146 = 0.073 BTC [-]	[23:22]
benkay	what is the structure of afk banks, and the risk distribution therein?	[23:23]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2.3 = 4.6 BTC [+]	[23:23]
thestringpuller	benkay: MPOE bot doesn't hold capital	[23:23]
benkay	I understand the MPEx/MPOE structure fairly well, tsp.	[23:23]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 1.478 = 2.956 BTC [-]	[23:23]
benkay	it's the contrast I'm lacking detail on.	[23:23]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.DICE] 240 @ 0.0033 = 0.792 BTC [-]	[23:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]	[23:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00071189 = 0.3559 BTC [+]	[23:24]
benkay	apologies for interrupting. please continue.	[23:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 2 = 4 BTC [-]	[23:26]
thestringpuller	nah i misread what you said lol	[23:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 2.26 = 11.3 BTC [+]	[23:28]
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mircea_popescu	http://mpexcharts.com/mpsic/S.MPOE/	[23:28]
mircea_popescu	pretty cool pizzaman1337 stuff!	[23:28]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [TAT.ASICMINER] 6 @ 0.0146 = 0.0876 BTC [-]	[23:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4285 @ 0.0007058 = 3.0244 BTC [-]	[23:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4465 @ 0.00070254 = 3.1368 BTC [-]	[23:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 10 @ 2.0001 = 20.001 BTC [-]	[23:34]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 4 @ 0.0148 = 0.0592 BTC [+]	[23:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.29999999 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[23:36]
benkay	mircea_popescu: what is the risk distribution and capital structure of afk banks you avoided with the MPEx structuring?	[23:37]
mircea_popescu	benkay irl you mean ?	[23:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIM] 6 @ 2.0001 = 12.0006 BTC [-]	[23:38]
benkay	sure	[23:38]
benkay	semantics	[23:38]
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benkay	(as if to imply these conversations and businesses are not real...)	[23:38]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 1.4769 = 5.9076 BTC [-]	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	irl banks aspire to the vaunted "tbtf" status, which means their mpoe bondholders are the taxpayers, and the interest rate is fixed	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	and very low.	[23:38]
benkay	gotcha	[23:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2998 = 0.8994 BTC [-]	[23:39]
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kakobrekla	hey you.	[23:39]
thestringpuller	LOL	[23:39]
iz	lol	[23:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [+]	[23:40]
kakobrekla	!l m s.dice	[23:40]
assbot	Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.0033 BTC [-]	[23:40]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4769 BTC [-]	[23:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 80 @ 0.0152 = 1.216 BTC [+]	[23:42]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.4769 BTC [-]	[23:42]
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assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.434001 BTC [-]	[23:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.434 BTC [-]	[23:45]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431001 BTC [-]	[23:46]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.431 BTC [-]	[23:46]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10885 @ 0.00070254 = 7.6471 BTC [-]	[23:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9500 @ 0.00070133 = 6.6626 BTC [-]	[23:47]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4223 @ 0.00069905 = 2.9521 BTC [-]	[23:47]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 358 @ 0.0152 = 5.4416 BTC [+]	[23:51]
assbot	[BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 1.476499 BTC [+]	[23:52]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ASICM] 500 @ 0.0152 = 7.6 BTC [+]	[23:59]
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