Forum logs for 08 Dec 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 18 @ 0.02959994 = 0.5328 BTC [+] [00:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.02959995 = 0.3848 BTC [+] {2} [00:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] [00:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 14 @ 0.02820071 = 0.3948 BTC [+] {3} [00:09]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 22 @ 0.02700045 = 0.594 BTC [-] {3} [00:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.1525 = 0.61 BTC [+] [00:14]
mircea_popescu I have a combined total of coins in limbo of about 63BTC. [00:19]
mircea_popescu idiots be idiots./ [00:19]
copumpkin I'll take 'em [00:23]
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kakobrekla hm [00:26]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=342122.msg3870510#msg3870510 [00:26]
ozbot [Weexchange issue] The fall of Ukyo III - Updates and references [00:27]
kakobrekla can someone explain to me why are they fiddling with the fail of ukyo [00:27]
bloctoc what is the proper way to purchase plane tickets with crypto [00:30]
bloctoc ? [00:31]
kakobrekla hm [00:32]
pankkake doesn't using bitcoin makes you a terrorist? [00:32]
kakobrekla there was a site that did that [00:32]
bloctoc I've heard of the site, but I can't remember the name. [00:33]
kakobrekla http://www.cheapair.com/ [00:33]
ozbot Cheap Air, Inc. - Search for Cheap Air Fare at CheapAir.com [00:33]
kakobrekla maybe [00:33]
kakobrekla https://btctrip.com/ [00:33]
ozbot BtcTrip - One for All, All for One [00:33]
kakobrekla dunno [00:33]
bloctoc cheap air sounds familiar. thanks! [00:34]
kakobrekla yw [00:34]
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mircea_popescu Ken told me he has sold just about everything. He mentioned selling insurance, cars, suits, and he told me the story of his ISP business. [00:48]
mircea_popescu 1. never trust a car salesman [00:48]
mircea_popescu 2. never trust an insurance salesman [00:48]
mircea_popescu 3. DEFINITELY never trust a cheap suit salesman [00:48]
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Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, what about a cheap suit lawyer ? [00:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1525 BTC [+] [00:53]
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mircea_popescu or that. [01:14]
mircea_popescu http://bitcoinmagazine.org/the-color-of-gray-pe-trilema/ [01:17]
ozbot The color of gray pe Trilema | BitcoinMagazine.org [01:17]
mircea_popescu lol spamblog fail [01:17]
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pankkake by the way http://trilema.com/2009/scrisul-de-mana/#comment-96516 is spam [01:18]
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mircea_popescu pankkake i think it's "ironic" spam [01:21]
pankkake well it links to a fake nike shoe store or something [01:21]
mircea_popescu o it does ? [01:21]
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mircea_popescu fixt. [01:22]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/519/btc-network-difficulty-to-top-1b-before-2014/ << and it's official, largest bet active on bitbet [01:23]
ozbot BitBet - BTC network difficulty to top 1B before 2014 [01:23]
mircea_popescu ;;bcstats [01:23]
gribble Current Blocks: 273673 | Current Difficulty: 7.074082830514966E8 | Next Difficulty At Block: 274175 | Next Difficulty In: 502 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 12 hours, 50 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 898896881.935 | Estimated Percent Change: 27.06904 [01:23]
mircea_popescu if somehow magically the next period is 5% there's gonna be some butthurt. [01:24]
pankkake didn't bet but I root for No now [01:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0007838 = 5.565 BTC [+] [01:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10499 @ 0.00078387 = 8.2299 BTC [+] {2} [01:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.318 = 0.954 BTC [+] [02:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 10 @ 0.0505 = 0.505 BTC [-] {3} [03:11]
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Azelphur mircea_popescu: I'm curious, how much of the usual trade on mpex is done by pyMPEX? [03:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.1524999 BTC [-] [03:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 709 @ 0.00049979 = 0.3544 BTC [+] {2} [03:44]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 250 @ 0.0005 = 0.125 BTC [+] [03:49]
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mircea_popescu Azelphur i have no idea. [03:53]
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mircea_popescu i don't think anyone actually types by hand tho. [03:54]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: would be interesting to see, probably could get it from user agent statistics if you have them [03:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.0001198 = 0.2396 BTC [+] [04:04]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2600 @ 0.0001199 = 0.3117 BTC [+] [04:06]
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kakobrekla I type by hand [04:11]
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mircea_popescu Azelphur i don't keep such tho. [04:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32299998 BTC [+] [04:32]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [7C] 13 @ 0.0077 = 0.1001 BTC [04:46]
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kakobrekla >For many different reasons, such as for instance described in IV. Disposal. Also because the wear-levelling optimisation most SSDs natively employ makes it nigh-on impossible to actually delete anything you ever put on them. [?] [05:03]
kakobrekla will it blend? [05:03]
IveBeenBit It will blend! [05:08]
mircea_popescu hm ? [05:14]
kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2eNhPC8wCQ [05:15]
ozbot Will it Blend - Patriot Flash Drive (original full length take) - YouTube [05:15]
kakobrekla closest they got to ssd [05:15]
kakobrekla but yeah [05:15]
kakobrekla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofgMueCOqo [05:15]
ozbot Will It Blend? - iPhone 5 vs Galaxy S3 - YouTube [05:15]
kakobrekla btw iphone blends faster [05:16]
mircea_popescu ssd mary [05:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 21 @ 0.03169902 = 0.6657 BTC [+] {3} [05:35]
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the20year1 So, what kind of exchanges do you all feel most comfortable with? [05:39]
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Duffer1 one with known members of community that have demonstrated trustworthiness over a very long period of time [05:41]
the20year1 does such exist? [05:42]
Duffer1 mpex [05:43]
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Duffer1 maaayyybbee ciphertrade when it opens [05:44]
the20year1 I'm looking at cipertrade, looks good to me [05:45]
the20year1 I just really would like to get back on an exchange [05:45]
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Duffer1 kate's demonstrated trustworthiness, but competence remains to be seen [05:45]
mike_c coinbr is a good place to start [05:45]
Duffer1 i like that Deprived is on board with that project [05:45]
Apocalyptic seems he is not Duffer1 [05:46]
Duffer1 wha? he's a founder unless something's changed [05:46]
Apocalyptic let me dig up his post [05:46]
Apocalyptic I bet she likes to advertise it so, for obvious PR reasins [05:47]
Apocalyptic *reasons [05:47]
mod6 the blender vid is awesome [05:47]
the20year1 I just hope that they build a framework, or someone does that won't run into SEC issues [05:47]
Duffer1 they're going to run into sec issues [05:48]
Apocalyptic Duffer1, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228327.msg3655452#msg3655452 [05:48]
Apocalyptic "the new exchange being developed/run by the Ciphermine team. But we are NOT committed (in the sense of having promised to go there) to it - and, at present, I am not committed to being involved either as part of the operational team for it OR as an investor in it." [05:48]
the20year1 Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant [05:48]
Apocalyptic sounds pretty clear to me he's not involved in any way, let alone being a "founder" as you say [05:49]
the20year1 I think 'founders' are more complicated, according to my brother who is involved with the startup in some way [05:49]
Duffer1 the20year1 who's "our"? [05:49]
Duffer1 interesting Apoc, the way the ciphertrade thread reads on litecointalk.org they make it sound like he's in on the ground floor [05:50]
Apocalyptic exactly [05:51]
Apocalyptic i've been misled too [05:51]
the20year1 Our fund's attourney [05:51]
Apocalyptic fortunately someone here corrected me and linked that post [05:51]
the20year1 who works with various VC firms and does SEC compliance for said firms [05:51]
Duffer1 https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=7176.0 he's listed under Advisory board and investors [05:51]
Apocalyptic yeah, i've read the exact same post [05:51]
Duffer1 the20year1 if you know someone involved with ciphertrade personally get them to approach lloyd's of london for theft insurance contract [05:52]
Apocalyptic Duffer1, huh [05:52]
the20year1 I think that's a fantastic idea duffer [05:52]
the20year1 I'll message my contact and see if they can get a quote [05:53]
Duffer1 i know right [05:53]
the20year1 i know i'd be willing to chip in for that :D [05:53]
Apocalyptic you think they will seriously consider such an offer ? [05:53]
the20year1 lloyds? [05:53]
Apocalyptic yes [05:53]
Duffer1 lloyd's likes new insurance opportunities [05:53]
the20year1 they insure EVERYTHING [05:53]
the20year1 http://money.howstuffworks.com/personal-finance/financial-planning/9-odd-things-insured-by-lloyds-of-london.htm [05:53]
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Apocalyptic ;;rate Ukto -2 Bitfunder's mess [05:55]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -2 for user Ukto has been recorded. [05:55]
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ruru silent here [06:10]
mircea_popescu Not exactly , our attourney says that it's quite possible for them to be SEC compliant <<< we've gone through this cycle about 20 times already. [06:10]
mircea_popescu see http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/ [06:11]
* Apocalyptic got some reading to do [06:11]
mircea_popescu ruru try log.bitcoin-assets.com [06:11]
KRS|gotyawallet some chatter already that btc is all over [06:12]
Apocalyptic hum I actually read this one already [06:12]
mircea_popescu already ? it's been the talk of the town ever since we started raping the town [06:12]
mircea_popescu back in 2011. [06:12]
KRS|gotyawallet thats true forgot all that its been good for a while..good point.. [06:14]
mircea_popescu it's like... o buttcoins are worthless, o buttcoins aren't useful o butcoins are a a scam etc etc. [06:14]
ruru let them panick.. my poor buddy sold.. 400+ BTC, got $280k. then.. guess what. Bought back when BTC rebounded. He got fucked bothways by the market [06:14]
mircea_popescu buttways [06:14]
ruru lost around 57 btc in the process [06:15]
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mircea_popescu that btc didn't belong in his hands obviously [06:16]
Duffer1 i can empathize with the scammed, but not those on the losing end of speculation [06:16]
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mircea_popescu dunno whether speculation or just panic [06:21]
ruru it was panic.. Dumped @ low 600s, put a bid @ 600.. then, pulled it for some reason. He wasn't at the right state of mind. [06:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 81 @ 0.0030468 = 0.2468 BTC [+] [06:23]
mircea_popescu daytrading without a license. [06:26]
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ruru as long as this place isn't panicking, i think we're good. [06:28]
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random_cat i logged into bitfailure and wedontexchange and see the ukto has followed through with the shuffel of assets [06:40]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.32299756 BTC [-] [06:53]
the20year1 what cycle 20 times? [06:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 315 @ 0.00049999 = 0.1575 BTC [-] [06:55]
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mircea_popescu the20year1 "our attuneys say so and so" [07:10]
mircea_popescu guy walks in a bar, asks some other guy "hey, are you an attuney ?" "sure pal" "ok don't you agree i could build an exchange ?" "sure pal" [07:11]
mircea_popescu exchange #5893490583094 is thus born. [07:11]
mircea_popescu sorry, i mean bit5893490583094coin [07:11]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [15:38]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading [15:38]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Nov 27 22:34:54 2013 [15:38]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [15:38]
gribble MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 740.0, Best ask: 745.0, Bid-ask spread: 5.00000, Last trade: 745.0, 24 hour volume: 45162.82997989, 24 hour low: 653.0001, 24 hour high: 860.0, 24 hour vwap: 731.95439 [15:38]
mircea_popescu so if i google sweets for my sweet result #2 is the drifters (black ppl), #3 is the searchers (white people) [15:48]
mircea_popescu ergo white man can't sweet. [15:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10456 @ 0.00078594 = 8.2178 BTC [+] [16:07]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu, what the heck foo? Keeping the price from reaching pluto [16:35]
mircea_popescu maybe it has no business on pluto [16:36]
thestringpuller I think there is a correlation between an exchange's life expectancy and the quality of the "businesses" it IPO's [16:38]
thestringpuller lol [16:38]
thestringpuller Based on this formula, Havelock should be shutting down any day now. [16:38]
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mircea_popescu there definitely is a correlation. [16:40]
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pankkake I already consider what I have left in havelock as lost [16:56]
pankkake but really, fuck all this shit [16:56]
Apocalyptic you mad pankkake . [16:56]
pankkake yes [16:56]
pankkake also headeaches don't help. but anyway, yeah :( [16:56]
Apocalyptic because of BF ? [16:56]
pankkake just a general feeling that any of these guys would scam if they could [16:57]
thestringpuller scamming doesn't pay, unless you're in your death throes [16:57]
thestringpuller even then it doesn't pay [16:58]
Apocalyptic well scammers gonna scam, that's what they do, and in bitcoinland there's a ton of them [16:58]
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thestringpuller send money to firstbits 1scamyou [17:04]
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mircea_popescu i [17:06]
mircea_popescu 'm with Apocalyptic [17:06]
mircea_popescu with freedom comes the horde of people who misunderstand what freedom is all about. [17:06]
mircea_popescu no way to fix that, really. [17:06]
Apocalyptic yeah [17:06]
mircea_popescu no good reason to care, tbh, their problem, let them fix it. [17:06]
Apocalyptic don't expect some random dude opening a bitcointalk post about his service to be legit [17:06]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic you'd think that'd be obvious, you know ? [17:07]
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Apocalyptic mircea, somehow it isn't, go figure [17:07]
thestringpuller WITH GREAT FREEDOM COMES GREAT RESPONSIBILITY [17:07]
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thestringpuller or at least that's what my dead uncle told me [17:07]
mircea_popescu the cave early behaviour partially to blame. also, the first few years everyone was new by the very definition. [17:07]
mircea_popescu needed some time to create histories. [17:07]
thestringpuller start-ups don't like history [17:08]
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thestringpuller because they want all the money now without providing any value [17:08]
mircea_popescu but take nanotube. he doesn't say much, but was here since before me, and he ain't scamming anyone. [17:08]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller adolescents generally don't like history. [17:08]
mircea_popescu it puts all their shortcomings in such a cruel light. [17:08]
mircea_popescu it's unfair i tell you! [17:08]
thestringpuller @_@ history is the shit [17:08]
thestringpuller it's how you know what came to be [17:09]
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thestringpuller unfortunately history can be "modified" after the fact, but I think that is GPG contract's greatest assets [17:09]
thestringpuller being able to make history "truthful" [17:09]
mircea_popescu now that's an interesting way to look at it... [17:09]
mircea_popescu i guess so huh. it creates a whole new class of artifact. [17:09]
mircea_popescu pottery, stone tablets, gpg signed matter... [17:10]
pankkake it's not about issuers. yes, most of them don't care to make their investors whole [17:10]
pankkake but even the so-called investors [17:10]
pankkake pump the scam to death, praise shitty action because it profits them, etc [17:11]
mircea_popescu well inasmuch as antyone can call himself an investor... [17:12]
mircea_popescu here's an idea : if you dont have a mpex acct youre too poor to be an investor. [17:12]
thestringpuller pankkake: you can still profit on that action though even if you're a real investor [17:15]
thestringpuller i remember mircea_popescu made some 100 btc off of AM swings [17:15]
thestringpuller in a single day [17:15]
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pankkake of course you can. you can even profit from altcoins, so? [17:16]
pankkake btw this scammer had a mpex account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144622.0 [17:16]
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thestringpuller DeadTerra is a scammer now? [17:19]
thestringpuller what'd he do again? he did those passthru's but what happened? [17:19]
pankkake just being sloppy then abandonning his PTs [17:19]
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pankkake the asicminer pt on bitfunder is still a mess [17:20]
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kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=40976 [17:20]
ozbot Login [17:20]
pankkake all that trust. riiiight [17:20]
pankkake ugh [17:20]
kakobrekla see my rating [17:20]
kakobrekla :p [17:20]
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pankkake I know… but I also have TAT in my trust root [17:21]
thestringpuller oh god [17:21]
thestringpuller my eyes are bleeding reading this thread [17:21]
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mircea_popescu pankkake i said investor :D [17:32]
mircea_popescu and o wow, deadterra is nao a scammer ? [17:32]
mircea_popescu only mpex account holder i ever had on ignore. [17:32]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: you may have an answer to this. [17:35]
thestringpuller what is the best system for public key distribution that enforces validity? [17:35]
thestringpuller given person A and person B have never met [17:35]
pankkake namecoin! [17:36]
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thestringpuller @_@ [17:36]
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thestringpuller can you really trust keyservers mr. pankkake ? [17:38]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller the system i now use works on the assumption either A or B are famous. [17:38]
pankkake well you should only trust the *fingerprint*, no matter how the key is distributed [17:38]
mircea_popescu i publish my key. now you know it is in fact mine. you send me yours. now i know it's yours. [17:38]
pankkake beware that the small fingerprint you often see can have collisions [17:39]
thestringpuller hmmmm [17:39]
mircea_popescu pankkake that's the keyid. [17:39]
mircea_popescu the fingerprint is the whole thing. [17:39]
thestringpuller i would assume that the keyservers WoT uses will eventually encompass the bitcoin community that matters no? [17:39]
thestringpuller thus as long as the keyserver isn't compromised you can trust the key distribution? [17:39]
pankkake it's the first characters of the fingerprint or something? anyway, it shouldn't be relied on, but sadly it is [17:40]
mircea_popescu that eventually is misplaced. it originally was the case, back in 2011. [17:40]
mircea_popescu then as various ignorant noobs got added that figure they "know shit" and "have businesses" and so on... [17:40]
mircea_popescu easiest test in the book. you're not in the wot, you're not to be taken seriously. 5000 reddit votes notwithstanding. [17:40]
mircea_popescu pankkake afaik it's the last. [17:41]
mircea_popescu j'ai formater mon disque dure et j'ai perdu ma wallet et j'ai que la clé. est ce que je peut recuperer mon bitcoin a partir de la clé [17:42]
mircea_popescu bwaghag [17:42]
mircea_popescu o lordy. [17:42]
pankkake I usually say that the only way people learn to backup is by painful experience (like I did :|) [17:43]
pankkake bitcoin is going to make it even more painful [17:43]
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pankkake hehe "unfortunately the activity in the Securities section lately seems to be dominated primarily by one of two things: 1) people trying to recover funds from an old "investment" that was poorly managed or an outright scam, or 2) people trying to attract funds for a new "investment" that is poorly managed or an outright scam" [17:45]
mircea_popescu and 3. mpoe-pr going "see here", "fuck you" and "retard" [17:45]
pankkake I read again the https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0 and it made much more sense [17:46]
mircea_popescu lessstupid.net [17:47]
mircea_popescu to quote my good friend pankkake, he said : "the only way people learn to backup is by painful experience" [17:47]
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thestringpuller http://www.coinion.com/2013/12/07/employee-asks-to-be-paid-in-bitcoins-buys-company-the-next-day/ [17:58]
mircea_popescu hahaha cool. [17:58]
mircea_popescu who runs coinonion ? [17:58]
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pankkake The United States dollar, a real-life currency created by a group of revolutionaries after overthrowing the local authorities in North America, has almost doubled in value over the last 24 hours. [17:59]
mircea_popescu :D [17:59]
pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354054.0 [18:00]
ozbot Introducing: The Coinion, Bitcoin's Finest News Source Onion-clone for Bitcoin [18:00]
thestringpuller good stuff [18:01]
mircea_popescu pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354054.msg3878420#msg3878420 [18:01]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [18:02]
pankkake nice [18:02]
mircea_popescu i wonder how many people realise that is actually MORE than what the average senior editor of fortune.com is paid on a per-article basis. [18:02]
pankkake depend on how much a 2015 bitcoin is worth [18:03]
thestringpuller fortune.com has an editor? [18:03]
mircea_popescu pankkake i meant today. [18:04]
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thestringpuller ;;seen jurov [18:21]
gribble jurov was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 hours, 13 minutes, and 56 seconds ago: http://megiontechnologies.com/career.html multicultural team ftw [18:21]
jurov *rubs eyes* who keeps bothering me? [18:23]
mircea_popescu lol gmornin [18:24]
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jurov mornin [18:25]
jurov $avg [18:27]
mpexbot jurov: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [18:27]
mircea_popescu i wonder if smickles reads his gribble later tells. [18:28]
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mircea_popescu to state it for the record : i will never read a pdf "financial report" of something trying to call itself a bitcoin public company. [18:29]
mircea_popescu if you're publishing pdf reportsa that means that 1. you're not part of bitcoin finance and 2. the most you will get is ridicule. [18:30]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, what's so wrong with pdfs ? except the obvious potential security issues [18:31]
pankkake meh [18:31]
pankkake there are bigger fish to fry [18:32]
pankkake at least it's a report, beats 99% of securities [18:32]
pankkake the French say "there are other cats to flog", much better [18:33]
nubbins` heh [18:34]
jurov thestringpuller pm [18:35]
mircea_popescu except ?! [18:35]
nubbins` d'autres chats! [18:35]
mircea_popescu pankkake it's a good idea to get people used to doing the right thing early. [18:35]
mircea_popescu this is a huge fish to skin, in that it costs nothing to establish correct precedent, and it'll be perfectly imossible to fix once a microsoft exists [18:35]
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mircea_popescu so please, for the love of your own future and for the love of the future of your kids and the young women you fuck and will probably survive you : [18:36]
mircea_popescu do not motherfucking read pdf "reports". [18:36]
mircea_popescu they ain't reports, they're stupidorts. [18:36]
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nubbins` even if they have two-inch margins on all sides? [18:37]
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mircea_popescu even if. [18:38]
mircea_popescu and the same princuople goes to the "devteam" retards implememnting pki [18:40]
mircea_popescu since we're on the topic. [18:40]
jurov send niggers.txt instead [18:41]
Apocalyptic :) [18:41]
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mircea_popescu totally. [18:44]
nubbins` https://onlycoin.com/ [18:45]
nubbins` interesting idea, no chip+PIN support and therefore useless [18:45]
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mircea_popescu "as seen on" is the mark of failure i've noticed. [18:47]
nubbins` also gotta say i fucking hate this new "endless scroll" type of website [18:47]
nubbins` "features don't impress you? how about the new york times logo?" [18:47]
mircea_popescu at least some idiots got the "coin" name, that's a relief. [18:48]
nubbins` heh [18:48]
nubbins` "all your cards. one coin. unless you live outside of the usa, in which case none of your cards." [18:48]
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Apocalyptic man I love arch, such a neat distro [18:51]
thestringpuller are we talking about that coin card [18:51]
thestringpuller which is a joke [18:51]
Apocalyptic doesn't come with all the useless shit you'll never use anyway like in debian [18:52]
thestringpuller all the "Computer Scientist" are raving about [18:52]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller right. [18:52]
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mircea_popescu that's the other mark of failure. [18:52]
nubbins` truth sauce [18:52]
nubbins` i mean [18:52]
nubbins` i'm a "computer scientist" [18:52]
nubbins` wtf do i know about anything? [18:52]
mircea_popescu you read wired religiously. [18:56]
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Apocalyptic thestringpuller, you do compile from source on arch too [19:03]
thestringpuller oh really? [19:03]
thestringpuller i thought pacman just brought in newest packages, and those were compiled remote [19:03]
thestringpuller i haven't used arch just gentoo so I don't know [19:03]
pankkake there is the AUR, which is basically user-contributed builds [19:04]
pankkake but for obvious security reasons they aren't allowed to distribute the binaries, only the build instructions [19:04]
pankkake it's a good idea, though the quality isn't always there ;) [19:05]
mircea_popescu has anyone so far tried to sneak malware in through ascii build ionstructions ? [19:05]
pankkake build instructions in documentation, or in scripts? I'm sure most people don't check the build scripts, even from untrusted sources [19:07]
mircea_popescu heh. [19:07]
pankkake ubuntu PPA look like they're built the right way, user uploads source, but trusted third party builds [19:07]
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pankkake there's http://gitian.org/ too [19:08]
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thestringpuller doesn't ppa require you to sign the package? [19:08]
thestringpuller the third party that is [19:09]
pankkake the source package maybe? and then they sign the binary? this is just guesses, I never did it [19:09]
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mircea_popescu uyah ubuntu had the right idea there. [19:11]
thestringpuller http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702304096104579240213383697076-lMyQjAxMTAzMDAwODEwNDgyWj - wow [19:16]
thestringpuller just [19:16]
thestringpuller wow [19:16]
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Apocalyptic "world's finest financial writers" // read our senior editors who have no clue [19:18]
pankkake also, that "tulip mania" thing is probably a myth [19:18]
pankkake there's only one source ever, no trace of actual losses [19:18]
pankkake http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/tulipmania [19:19]
ozbot How much of the legend of the 17th-Century tulipmania is true? [19:19]
thestringpuller I write better than this for papers due in school and still get points marked off, yet this gets through the editors? [19:20]
thestringpuller i don't want to live in this country anymore [19:20]
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kakobrekla thats not a matter of country. [19:21]
pankkake it's the same everywhere. it's the planet [19:21]
mircea_popescu pankkake nah, it wasn't a myth [19:21]
kakobrekla id bet its the universe [19:21]
pankkake let's go te the moon together [19:21]
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mircea_popescu and there are traces. for instance the aggrivied merchants petitioned the court to rule on whether people who bought on promise are liable for the value promised or for the value actual [19:21]
mircea_popescu the court ruled fuck you. [19:22]
pankkake they didn't invent bailouts yet? [19:22]
mircea_popescu anyway, the bs is funny. "none of the obsolete people have any idea of why exactly it is they're obsolete" [19:22]
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mircea_popescu well fucking duh with pink fringe and a lemon slice on top [19:22]
mircea_popescu if they did have a clue they would be here. [19:23]
mircea_popescu pankkake no, at the time freedom was a living thing. [19:23]
pankkake I'm not that convinced Bitcoin Is The Future. actually, the feeling that is was dominated by 15-year-old gamers with GPUs made me stay away for long (well, I'd be rich if I didn't) [19:24]
pankkake but everything that was almost-working is failing [19:24]
mircea_popescu it's the future alright. [19:25]
Apocalyptic I think we agree on that [19:27]
pankkake I have no doubts that fiat is dead/dying. just doubts about bitcoin surviving it [19:27]
pankkake well, the best would be that I try to build something interesting around bitcoin instead of lamenting :) [19:28]
mircea_popescu :p [19:29]
Apocalyptic go for it pankkake ! [19:30]
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Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, what are your thoughts about protoshares ? [19:58]
thestringpuller Jun 2016: today Ben Bernanke addressed congress, "I have been replaced by a computer network, and am unfortunatley obsolete. I have no idea how this happened but I reccommend the US switch the Bitcoin standard." [20:06]
KRS1 haha [20:06]
kakobrekla the next moment btc crashes [20:06]
nubbins` lel [20:06]
pankkake http://fakevalley.com/greenspans-bitcoin-comment-triggers-an-algo-trading-frenzy/ [20:08]
ozbot Bitcoin Enthusiasts Thrilled After Greenspan Calls Bitcoin A 'Bubble' - FakeValley [20:08]
pankkake love the "I go all-in on anything he calls a bubble" [20:08]
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KRS1 Chatter everywhere says they've tracked down the elusive fontas. Here is a picture of him: http://www.strangefunkidz.com/images/content/117901.jpg [20:09]
pankkake the best haircut altcoins can buy [20:10]
KRS1 seren1ty: Fontas punched my wife in the face last night. This morning she pooped bitcoins. [20:11]
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mircea_popescu Apocalyptic nothing good, but too soon to be definite. [20:40]
mircea_popescu i thought fontas was usagi's otherkin [20:41]
thestringpuller usagi is using a new moniker now? [20:41]
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thestringpuller he still owes me 15 btc [20:42]
thestringpuller not like he could ever payt hat [20:42]
Apocalyptic what is usagi remembered for these days , [20:42]
thestringpuller insurance fraud [20:42]
thestringpuller mining fraud [20:42]
thestringpuller fake silver [20:42]
thestringpuller lol [20:42]
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pankkake fake silver? :o [20:42]
thestringpuller jk, that was me trolling, but he ran a btc->silver fund [20:43]
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mircea_popescu pankkake usagi ran a nest of lolcompanies in 2012, [21:24]
pankkake yeah I saw that [21:25]
mircea_popescu they kept selling insurance policies to one another and then foregoing on collecting and all sorts of nutty accounting schemes [21:25]
mircea_popescu it was a texbook example of, give a kitten a computer, it's going to take a nap on it [21:25]
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pankkake https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.msg3880810#msg3880810 mother of gods [21:32]
ozbot [IPVO] [Multiple Exchanges] Neo & Bee - LMB Holdings [21:32]
mircea_popescu lol [21:32]
mircea_popescu ty [21:32]
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mircea_popescu so i just took a bite out of a usb stick [21:49]
mircea_popescu because i had some chocklate on my table and i reached for it w/o looking [21:49]
jcpham it usually takes me 3 tries to plug in usb [21:49]
mircea_popescu oddly enough, into the mouth it plugs on the 1st try [21:50]
jcpham i bet [21:50]
mircea_popescu they sjould make these things sturdier thno [21:51]
mircea_popescu i fucking bent it [21:51]
jcpham all of mine ar just bare pcb's [21:51]
jcpham the plastic case always breask [21:51]
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thestringpuller lol on of my buddies just made a storyboard for a nice intro to gpg video [22:09]
thestringpuller that states "If you want to enter the crypto currency game, you need to use crypto!" [22:09]
mircea_popescu win. [22:13]
pankkake mircea_popescu: you might like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=358820.msg3874939#msg3874939 [22:14]
pankkake but doing this (risking money just to disprove random guys) tells me it's time to step away from the computer [22:15]
mircea_popescu you know how patrick harnett got sunk right ? [22:16]
pankkake don't know who that is at all [22:16]
mircea_popescu a! [22:17]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121915.0 [22:17]
ozbot Scammer tag: PatrickHarnett [22:17]
mircea_popescu so i guess i'm at least 500 btc ahead of you in that game [22:18]
pankkake :o [22:18]
mircea_popescu i ain't steppin' away, i'm steppin ON. [22:18]
thestringpuller Patrick Harnett is still playing banker?!?!? [22:20]
mircea_popescu nah, but pankkake is starting down the glorious path of "here's 0.1 btc says you're fulla shit" [22:20]
mircea_popescu which, incidentally, is why god created money in the first place. [22:21]
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thestringpuller that is how you busted open his scam though [22:21]
pankkake actually I linked for the replies [22:21]
pankkake why god created money? so you're satoshi? [22:22]
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thestringpuller did you ever get any of that deposit back btw mircea_popescu ? [22:24]
mircea_popescu no. [22:24]
thestringpuller man woe is the days of 2012 [22:24]
mircea_popescu the guy, of course, claims he has been making payments, except, of course, to meanies such as me, who wouldn't lie about how he defaulted in the first place. [22:24]
thestringpuller ;;gettrust PatrickHarnett [22:25]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user PatrickHarnett: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -4 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=PatrickHarnett | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=PatrickHarnett | Rated since: Tue Mar 6 17:02:32 2012 [22:25]
thestringpuller lol [22:25]
mircea_popescu which, incidentally, is pretty much the oldest trick in the scambook, try and stack the incentives so that people won't report. [22:25]
thestringpuller i wonder what these "bankers" thought they would invest in... [22:26]
thestringpuller it feels like people were taking loans to pay loans to pay loans [22:26]
mircea_popescu aka pulling yourself out of the shit by your breeches [22:27]
pankkake isn't it what people do in the fiat world? [22:27]
thestringpuller in the fiat world people take insurance out on a loan default [22:27]
thestringpuller then bribe the loanee to repay the loan late [22:27]
mircea_popescu lol [22:27]
thestringpuller aka burning down the bar for the insurance money [22:27]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/a-simple-example-as-to-why-fiat-institutions-cant-stand/#comment-96662 << this is proceeding nicely. [22:28]
ozbot A simple example as to why fiat institutions can’t stand pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:28]
mircea_popescu so i got this very dry supposed horse salamy from this weird neoprotestant group that's trying to start a sort of crafts convent [22:29]
mircea_popescu this shit is so good i'm getting suspicious [22:30]
thestringpuller i think one benefit of GPG contracts in the long run is as bitcoin ages, the barrier of entry into WoT becomes much higher [22:32]
pankkake I wouldn't trust any romanian food [22:32]
truffles lol [22:32]
pankkake well I suppose to enter the WoT you'd need older people to vouch you, and to risk a bit of their reputation [22:32]
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Apocalyptic this shit is so good i'm getting suspicious // horse salamy from Hungaria is the best [22:33]
truffles horse, the next red meat? [22:33]
mircea_popescu pankkake you kidding ? romanian food > french food. [22:34]
truffles 0.0 [22:34]
mircea_popescu i kid you not. [22:34]
thestringpuller pankkake: exactly, that means 1) you know someone who is reputable IRL and get rated accordingly based on business doings there, or 2) you start from the bottom which will get lower and lower [22:34]
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thestringpuller all scammers seem to do is make the distance between the bottom of the barrel and the truly trustworthy larger to traverse [22:35]
mircea_popescu which is a valuable public service. [22:36]
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pankkake mircea_popescu: http://www.france24.com/en/20130209-findus-horsemeat-ready-meals-lasagne-food-scare-europe-contamination-uk-france-sweden [22:36]
pankkake not that I would ever eat anything from Findus [22:36]
truffles chicken breast schnitzel doesnt sound like Romanian origins [22:36]
pigeons hores salamy is people [22:36]
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thestringpuller but alas there will always be n00bs killed by the woodchipper [22:36]
truffles saami .. [22:36]
nubbins` horse is big in quebec [22:36]
thestringpuller ;;google site:trilema.com the woodchipper [22:36]
gribble The story of Pointless and Witless pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: [22:36]
nubbins` can't buy it elsewhere in canada tho [22:36]
nubbins` i'm curious to know how it tastes [22:37]
nubbins` well. i shouldn't say you "can't buy" it [22:37]
nubbins` it's just never available for sale [22:37]
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mircea_popescu truffles not a matter of origins or w/e, i'm just saying, i give you and a romanian chick 100 euros each, whoever makes the best platter wins. [22:38]
mircea_popescu pigeons lmao [22:38]
truffles taste depends on preference [22:39]
mircea_popescu got me there. [22:39]
mircea_popescu some people for instance have no taste. [22:39]
pigeons ;) [22:40]
truffles http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977234665 that looks good at least [22:40]
ozbot Romanian Food For Supper (recipes included) | Gather [22:40]
davout did someone start a french vs. romanian food trell ? [22:41]
truffles think so [22:42]
truffles french win with just desserts imo [22:42]
davout french win, there isn't much more to say, romanian food is pretty good though! [22:42]
davout pankkake: all the jokes including horse meat and romanians were already made on this thread around a year ago or sthg like that [22:43]
davout s/thread/chan/ [22:43]
pankkake I figured… and I probably did it once already too :/ [22:43]
pankkake French cuisine is quite generic, south west and south east are already quite different [22:44]
truffles orly [22:44]
truffles http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/61233877.jpg guess they aim for the weird [22:46]
mircea_popescu davout for some values of someone [22:46]
mircea_popescu but anyway! romanian > french, strictly because the french agriculture died in the 60s [22:47]
mircea_popescu romania is still there. i can go to a peasant house and buy a "hand"smoked ham, or raw milk. it'd be half a mile away [22:47]
Apocalyptic that's awesome [22:47]
mircea_popescu you *can* get stuff of comparable quality in france, too [22:48]
pankkake do they take bitcoins? [22:48]
mircea_popescu it's just a lot more of a hassle and way more expensive. [22:48]
mircea_popescu no, they don't. [22:48]
pankkake oh, so you won't survive the global collapse anyway [22:48]
mircea_popescu yes, i will, because i will fuck their daughters and to appease me they will bring me cheese [22:48]
truffles uh dunno what agriculture has to do with who cooks best.. [22:49]
mircea_popescu and all manners of leberwurst [22:49]
mircea_popescu truffles you can't be serious. where do you think food comes from. [22:49]
truffles ... [22:49]
davout mircea_popescu: i am interested in this leberwurst you speak of [22:49]
davout also as a matter of fact i bring my kid drink raw milk directly from the cow, as in, it's not hard to go on a farm :-) [22:50]
davout it might be easier in romania tho [22:50]
truffles dunno why the products would be different when comparing, if so dont c why its a problem to obtain [22:50]
mircea_popescu well you know what it is neh ? [22:52]
mircea_popescu davout we have little automated things here, you insert 3 lei and get a liter. [22:53]
truffles http://www.sausagemaking.org/acatalog/blood.jpg that looks yum doesnt it [22:54]
jurov yup it is [22:58]
nubbins` raw milk [22:58]
nubbins` one sec [22:58]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-farmer-guilty-of-selling-raw-milk-1.989663 [22:59]
ozbot Ontario farmer guilty of selling raw milk - Toronto - CBC News [22:59]
pankkake I thought this was only banned in US [22:59]
truffles canada is practically US [23:00]
truffles is it the head or the rear.. [23:00]
davout mircea_popescu: that is cool [23:00]
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nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schmidt_(agriculture) [23:00]
ozbot Michael Schmidt (agriculture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [23:00]
nubbins` ARMED COPS [23:00]
nubbins` raided his farm [23:00]
dub all cops are armed tho rite? [23:01]
dub are they going to leave their guns behind for this one job? [23:02]
truffles saw video of canadian cops shooting kid on bus.. [23:02]
davout mircea_popescu: http://i.imgur.com/rAeUz3g.png <<< further questions? [23:02]
mircea_popescu dub not rly. at least here. [23:02]
mircea_popescu davout well... it's not a farm you know what i mean ? [23:02]
dub yeah, not armed here either but in ameristan [23:03]
truffles nubbins` what happened to canada! [23:03]
mircea_popescu cool and good for the kid and everything, but that cow aint happy there. [23:03]
nubbins` truffles: conservative government [23:03]
davout mircea_popescu: it's just milking time, maybe you're referring to the really old-school ones where everything's done by hand ? [23:03]
mircea_popescu show me one where a girl with nice tits and no bra, red in her cheeks, just hand milked the cow in a bucket. [23:03]
mircea_popescu yeah [23:04]
davout haha [23:04]
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davout does it *have* to be a cow milked in the bucket? [23:04]
nubbins` whale milk is like 50% fat [23:05]
mircea_popescu jus' sayin'. you're already doing pretty good. [23:05]
nubbins` zoos are missing out [23:05]
nubbins` imagine the cheese! [23:05]
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nubbins` not sure what taste a plankton diet would put on it tho [23:05]
mircea_popescu algae, same thing as grass. [23:06]
mircea_popescu prolly sushi flavoured cheese. [23:06]
dub so there are food safety standards for a reason [23:06]
truffles so why's raw milk bad [23:06]
* truffles forgets [23:06]
dub not to rain on a libertarian indignity parade but you can't just sell people shit that might kill them [23:06]
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nubbins` truffles: it's not. [23:07]
dub it can be [23:07]
nubbins` in the sense that raw beef isn't bad [23:07]
nubbins` but dub has it [23:07]
mircea_popescu dub everything might kill you. [23:07]
nubbins` it *can be* bad [23:07]
nubbins` and so therefore [23:08]
nubbins` it is banned [23:08]
nubbins` tyvm o milky overlords [23:08]
truffles something to do with what they feed em like mad cow? [23:08]
mircea_popescu in principle, people should be responsible for what they do. [23:08]
jurov wtf? they normally sell raw milk here from a machines, with warning you should cook it [23:08]
mircea_popescu jurov yeah. [23:08]
nubbins` jurov warnings are so european [23:08]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure it's the same principle, as this italian company begun merchandising its machinery to farmers all over. [23:08]
nubbins` the new world prefers legislation [23:08]
dub yeah you can't just warn peopl ein murica [23:08]
mircea_popescu dub it's not even prominent a warning [23:09]
mircea_popescu you could easily miss it. [23:09]
jurov http://www.pluska.sk/fotogaleria-zdravie/?foto=&clanok=288180 [23:09]
jurov the warnig is there in red [23:09]
mircea_popescu yup. [23:09]
mircea_popescu that's the machine. [23:09]
dub thats not suitable at all [23:10]
dub a) it requires the ability to read [23:10]
nubbins` okay so seriously tho [23:10]
mircea_popescu it should be written IN THE MILK [23:10]
truffles what if u make it for just ur family dub? [23:10]
nubbins` horse salami [23:10]
nubbins` is this dry salami? [23:10]
nubbins` like will it keep? [23:10]
dub truffles: thats fine [23:10]
mircea_popescu it usually is dry yes [23:10]
mircea_popescu you can have it wet too, in pepper usually. [23:10]
nubbins` i'm curious to try some [23:10]
dub b) the mobility scooter access is in question [23:11]
mircea_popescu dub lazymobile ? [23:11]
nubbins` i've been on a big tube-meat kick lately [23:11]
nubbins` but kolbasa is so pricey [23:11]
truffles since we're on safety, what about Bisphenol A ! [23:11]
nubbins` truffles: banned in canada [23:12]
nubbins` er wait no [23:12]
nubbins` not banned [23:12]
nubbins` but health canada sez it's a carcinogen [23:12]
dub theres also the thing about how your gut gets used to the shit you put it through [23:12]
truffles then it wouldve been banned in US too :p [23:12]
nubbins` receipts are still coated in it, but you can't find drink containers made of it anymore [23:12]
nubbins` dub, this is why montezuma's revenge only targets whitey [23:12]
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nubbins` heh [23:13]
nubbins` hmmm [23:13]
nubbins` i wonder could i reasonably make salami [23:13]
nubbins` i've got a huge chunk of moose in the freezer [23:13]
* truffles wonders if nubbins` hunts [23:14]
nubbins` not personally [23:14]
nubbins` i have some connections tho [23:14]
truffles this will suck if BPA is in my alcohol :( [23:14]
nubbins` ^ argument for glass [23:15]
nubbins` ok supper time, seeya later [23:15]
truffles later [23:15]
nubbins` will have more questions about horse salami [23:15]
nubbins` peace [23:15]
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mircea_popescu good salami is hard to make. [23:16]
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mike_c mircea_popescu, s.nsa november statement coming soon? i'm curious to see how much r&d cost. [23:59]
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