Forum logs for 08 Apr 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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thestringpuller | ;;seen Bugpowder | [00:01] |
gribble | Bugpowder was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 38 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: |
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thestringpuller | whatever happened to Bugpowder, must be retired. | [00:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 22 @ 0.03010039 = 0.6622 BTC [-] {6} | [00:02] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 13 @ 0.03010005 = 0.3913 BTC [-] {6} | [00:05] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 8 @ 0.0301001 = 0.2408 BTC [+] {2} | [00:06] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05249885 = 0.105 BTC [+] | [00:07] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.05249999 = 0.2625 BTC [+] {4} | [00:09] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 20 @ 0.08299776 = 1.66 BTC [-] | [00:13] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 2000 @ 0.000125 = 0.25 BTC [-] | [00:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.05299999 = 0.106 BTC [+] | [00:18] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.053 = 0.106 BTC [+] | [00:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03010001 = 0.1505 BTC [-] | [00:20] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 5 @ 0.08299776 = 0.415 BTC [-] | [00:22] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 2 @ 0.053 = 0.106 BTC [+] {2} | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller he drops by now and again, like quarterly. | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves not really on the audio. some voice work done. | [00:25] |
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mircea_popescu | Mats_cd03 pretty cool! | [00:26] |
mircea_popescu | used to be like 1600 / 400ish, but then the 1k bet happened and some large 200+ iirc. | [00:26] |
mircea_popescu | shows the importance of padding i guess. | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | ;;eauth mircea_popescu | [00:28] |
gribble | Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [00:28] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:38deabf30abd437d1ce2053fb0ce12af190d1911263496a2a4ce72cf | [00:28] |
gribble | You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rated Mats_cd03 | [00:28] |
gribble | You have not yet rated user Mats_cd03 | [00:28] |
kakobrekla | its a trap. | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | ;;rate Mats_cd03 1 Bitcoin financial auditor. | [00:28] |
gribble | Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | derp. | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | get in the wot noob. | [00:28] |
ThickAsThieves | i'd be interested in taking a swing at some music or spell effects or such if you have any small project for me to esperiment with | [00:29] |
Mats_cd03 | im waiting til i get a cardano | [00:29] |
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kakobrekla | uh you gonna do your wot on cardano? | [00:31] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.05349999 = 0.1605 BTC [+] {2} | [00:31] |
Mats_cd03 | im generating the key with it | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | so i guess 1771 is the new 1337 | [00:33] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.08299776 = 0.83 BTC [-] | [00:33] |
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mircea_popescu | in other news, i gotta chill it with these extraditions, my poor liver can't cope. | [00:34] |
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mircea_popescu | lol vessenes is STILL "chairman of teh board" ? | [00:35] |
twizt | mp is that u posting as sproket | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | what's the guy take himself for, franksinatra ? | [00:36] |
twizt | lol | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | mnope. | [00:36] |
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twizt | sporket* | [00:36] |
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mircea_popescu | i srsly never posted on the forum. | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | i used to pay exactly one person to do it, she had a signed statement, that's the whole of it. | [00:36] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 37 @ 0.08299776 = 3.0709 BTC [-] {2} | [00:36] |
twizt | well u got someone pretending to be you atleast | [00:36] |
kakobrekla | the only way i know of to backup that key Mats_cd03 is to plug the cable on the transporter in the middle of the energizing sequence so while the object is already completely scanned it is not yet disintegrated, the rest of the procedure is prolly clear. | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla key's stored in an eeprom. it's not THAT easy to lose. | [00:37] |
Mats_cd03 | ;;later tell cads any progress? | [00:37] |
kakobrekla | TRY ME | [00:37] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [00:37] |
mircea_popescu | well yeah, generally speaking, backup;s are better than no backups, no argument ther.e | [00:38] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7678 @ 0.00100168 = 7.6909 BTC [+] {2} | [00:44] |
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everclear | twizt: no one's pretending to be MP, only being accused | [00:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 44 @ 0.00243332 = 0.1071 BTC [-] {2} | [00:46] |
ThickAsThieves | today my post about the questionable "Narcotic Checkpoints" was censored into oblivion | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | afaik teh sa goons be trolling the shit out of that thread. | [00:46] |
ThickAsThieves | about 220 comments before it died | [00:46] |
ThickAsThieves | shortly later the police issues a pr: | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves lrn2use your own platforms. | [00:46] |
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ThickAsThieves | "A total of 29 arrests were made on various charges of possession of illegal drugs, driving while license suspended, and outstanding warrants. Drugs seized: Marijuana 23.8 grams, Crack cocaine: 8.1 grams, Cocaine: 2 grams, Prescription pills 46." | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, fuck them. if they had confiscated the empire fucking state building made out of crystal rock pixie dust, | [00:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 77 @ 0.00240015 = 0.1848 BTC [-] {3} | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | it'd have not excused it. | [00:47] |
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ThickAsThieves | well all they got was people with their weekend stashes it seems | [00:47] |
mircea_popescu | completely broken line of argumentation. you're telling your daughter to stop sucking cock on the curb, she's telling you she made this much money today. | [00:47] |
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mircea_popescu | if that were the fucking point... | [00:47] |
ThickAsThieves | i agree | [00:47] |
ThickAsThieves | i know someone at the paper who's kinda a firecracker, gonna see if she'll do an article | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves if you had a blog with a larger circulation than any newspaper buffett owns, you could have done that article. | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | and you could have had that blog, had you started working on it, diligently, half a decade ago. | [00:48] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck happened to s.mpoe | [00:49] |
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ThickAsThieves | lol, ironically about 10 years ago I was speaking with the head of the local Chamber of Commerce and she asked me what I thought of blogs (as PR really). I told her I thought they were silly. | [00:49] |
ThickAsThieves | i always remembe rthat conversation for some reason | [00:50] |
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mircea_popescu | so ten years ago you said something silly :D | [00:51] |
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mircea_popescu | remember bill clinton ? | [00:51] |
mircea_popescu | his career ended because drudge's blog. | [00:51] |
mircea_popescu | that was just about a decade ago. | [00:51] |
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ThickAsThieves | it came from being a hater of all things twittery | [00:52] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+] | [00:53] |
ThickAsThieves | and eve3ry business wanting to pay me to do them for promo | [00:53] |
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ThickAsThieves | but yeah it was silly | [00:53] |
ThickAsThieves | but her writing a blog would have been even more silly | [00:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.05845389 = 0.3507 BTC [-] {2} | [00:54] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 11 @ 0.0584539 = 0.643 BTC [+] | [00:57] |
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mircea_popescu | well no dissputeing that. | [00:58] |
mircea_popescu | speaking of which, what's the difference between dis bute and diss pute. | [00:58] |
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ThickAsThieves | one has b upside down? | [00:59] |
ThickAsThieves | backwards* | [00:59] |
ThickAsThieves | derp | [00:59] |
ThickAsThieves | i didnt say anything | [00:59] |
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mircea_popescu | lol | [01:00] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://gigaom.com/2014/04/07/new-bitcoin-debit-card-claims-to-work-with-90-percent-of-us-atms/ | [01:01] |
ozbot | New bitcoin debit card claims to work with 90 percent of US ATMs — Tech News and Analysis | [01:01] |
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ThickAsThieves | missed opportunity to call it scAMEX | [01:01] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.085002 = 0.425 BTC [+] {2} | [01:02] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.085 = 0.34 BTC [-] | [01:03] |
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mircea_popescu | awwwh! | [01:04] |
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mircea_popescu | that's the meanest thing of the month | [01:04] |
ThickAsThieves | it's only the 7th! | [01:05] |
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ThickAsThieves | phone call sceduled with reported, woop! | [01:08] |
ThickAsThieves | reporter* | [01:08] |
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mircea_popescu | if there's anyone here sober : | [01:10] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/free-sitcom-idea-with-butts/ | [01:11] |
ozbot | Free sitcom idea, with butts. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [01:11] |
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mircea_popescu | pls read that let me know what you think. | [01:11] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5228 @ 0.00099915 = 5.2236 BTC [-] | [01:11] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;later tell herbijudlestoids what idea is that ? | [01:12] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:12] |
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mircea_popescu | vesse | [01:13] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform o wow, they're actually stepped up the discussion to include the word murder ? | [01:14] |
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mike_c | an article with butts in the title and no pictures of butts.. | [01:14] |
mircea_popescu | that's a bold step. | [01:14] |
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midnightmagic | mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio | [01:15] |
midnightmagic | mike_c MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mixdio | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c no because it's an idea see | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | Mats_cd03 what's "challenge and response" mean ? | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | jurov: you weren't there when S.DICE traded. there were massive buys *just after* dividends were paid <<< this is very true, and still one of those unresolved mysteries. | [01:16] |
mircea_popescu | it almost looked like people went "oh, it paid another div, its value reduced by x but it's risk discount by n*x so BUY IT!" | [01:16] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: "heard of hearing" << is that supposed to be hard of hearing? | [01:17] |
mircea_popescu | hahaha | [01:17] |
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mircea_popescu | well i'm leaving it, cutest teapo ever. | [01:17] |
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thestringpuller | lolol | [01:17] |
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mircea_popescu | bounce like half the people live their entire lives within 50 miles of their pob or some shit ? | [01:19] |
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mircea_popescu | bitcoinpete: just like the medical system treats symptoms like cancer instead of the root causes, like shitty food << yey verily. compare cancer epidemiologic data in the soviet union in 1963 with same in the us in 2013. be amazed. be very amazed. | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | and they were using DTT and azbocement wtf you call it and so on. | [01:21] |
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mircea_popescu | "At the end of the year, a consistently inflating bitcoin would trigger no capital gains liability, only capital losses, reducing the tax liability of the filer." | [01:23] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves who is this powerfully retarded ranger ? | [01:23] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: they're actually stepped up the discussion to include the word murder << it was time to switch cover stories, the old one was getting tired | [01:24] |
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mircea_popescu | because only on the tardstalk forum can one accidentally selfcrit himself on the jagged shards of irony for more 9000s of damage. | [01:24] |
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asciilifeform | and now there's a convenient 'desperado' who 'we know did it' | [01:24] |
mircea_popescu | right right. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | well... maybe it was the global warming. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | no wait. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | maybe it was the CLIMATE SCIENCE DENIERS | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | they dunnit. | [01:25] |
asciilifeform | i'll call it 'local warming.' | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [01:25] |
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mircea_popescu | "a cilindrical section of his skull about quarter inch wide suddenly got very hot and all entropic" | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | it's all because of the "carbon" | [01:26] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: dafuq fury. << srsly. tell him that if regulation is good he needs to find another market. | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, it's quite clear they're stepping up the game. | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | ¡No pasarán! | [01:27] |
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mircea_popescu | https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/453298405159477248 | [01:29] |
ozbot | Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: Dear USG sleeper agents : ... | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | adding here for teh record too. | [01:29] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c: sorry jurov, now they are running the secure version of wordpress :D << try haxxing trilema, smartypants. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | it's running wp like... uhm. 2.something. | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | whatever was the package before obama. | [01:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19794 @ 0.00099915 = 19.7772 BTC [-] | [01:31] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.03009999 = 0.1505 BTC [-] | [01:32] |
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mike_c | well, trilema moved the login page. that's better than bitcoin-assets :) | [01:34] |
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mircea_popescu | nubbins` wait, you actually imagine btc ragazine has more readers than trilema ?! | [01:35] |
mircea_popescu | i mean being one degree of magnitude off is one thing, but you're probably three. | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | mike_c no it didn't. | [01:36] |
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nubbins` | come to think of it, i've never read bitcoin magazine... | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | sorry to break it to you this way, but no, it's not this cool obscure band :D | [01:37] |
mike_c | this looks promising: https://trilema.com:2083/ | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | errything looks promising at some point. | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | course afail :2083 ain't wordpress. | [01:38] |
mike_c | true. plus my time limit for fun is up. | [01:38] |
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jborkl | Butterfly labs had a class action filed against them today | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2012/the-storm-that-was-fel/#comment-90300 | [01:39] |
ozbot | The Storm That Was Fel pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | from the cemetery of trilema, an example of one that has tried before. | [01:40] |
mircea_popescu | jborkl was it the minesota guys ? | [01:41] |
jborkl | http://www.woodlaw.com/sites/default/files/casedocs/2014-04-04%20Complaint.pdf | [01:41] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, | [01:41] |
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mircea_popescu | https://twitter.com/Mircea_Popescu/status/447869151756161025 | [01:42] |
ozbot | Twitter / Mircea_Popescu: http://t.co/kPlNNBteuy #BFL ... | [01:42] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-03-2014#577267 | [01:42] |
ozbot | #bitcoin-assets log | [01:42] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: wouldn't hurt to implement 'port knocking' | [01:43] |
kakobrekla | yeah mike_c funny story about that. | [01:43] |
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mike_c | leprechauns? | [01:45] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i don't actually sysadmin that server, and w/e, whoever finds a cpanel hole can deface trilema for a day. | [01:45] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller: interesting that bitbet is so transparent it can be independently audited << yeah, but wikipedia has an article about "dac" | [01:45] |
mircea_popescu | so guess who wins. | [01:45] |
asciilifeform | the purpose of impossibly-hard targets isn't necessarily to protect valuables, but can be simply to torment the enemy | [01:46] |
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mircea_popescu | well the purpose of rotting pig carcasses with vaginas painted on the skin isn't so very different. | [01:47] |
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mircea_popescu | Namworld: That's not how you quit. Guy will just get in trouble for it, playing in his wife's back like that. < i agree. add a steel pole to your pool, chain her to the base. she can eat once every 100 laps. | [01:49] |
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mircea_popescu | after one million laps not only is she cured of whatevet you disliked, but also has a superb posterior. | [01:49] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEEQ] 1310 @ 0.00012497 = 0.1637 BTC [+] {2} | [01:50] |
mircea_popescu | but anyway, the guy is obviously trying to have someone write him a scamsite. found a decent pretext, but it's about as convincing as what kids trying to get you to do their homework come up with. | [01:51] |
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bounce | verily, asbocement. ITYM DDT and asbestos? | [01:54] |
bounce | !google ASBO | [01:54] |
mircea_popescu | asbestos yea | [01:55] |
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mircea_popescu | so who's going to show up to whatever derpy conference the vessenes merry band of scammers is organising and ask him how much did karpeles pay him to promote his scam ? | [01:57] |
mircea_popescu | and all sorts of other interesting questions, such as how much of the muppets' donations to "the foundation" went to his girlfriend. | [01:58] |
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bounce | $400 entrance fee, or whatever it was, just to ask scammers why they be scammin'? | [01:58] |
jurov | gonna be http://cebexpo.net/ here in vienna soon.. not sure power rangers come | [01:59] |
BingoBoingo | 400 euros a ticket is more than most forum fraudsters take now, so... I think this goes in line with the whole don't feed scammers because it encourages them thing | [01:59] |
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jurov | oh shrem will | [01:59] |
bounce | lovely mugshot collection | [02:00] |
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mircea_popescu | bounce if you do i'll pay your entrance. but no derpage, make it worth our while. | [02:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3558 @ 0.00099818 = 3.5515 BTC [-] {2} | [02:07] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov shrem is like whatever, leper man walking. | [02:08] |
mircea_popescu | "hi, i'm 24 and i made a deal with the usg to pretend like i'm still a human being, who knows, maybe the puppet master needs one sometime" | [02:08] |
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mircea_popescu | lol stallman gonna lose another gnu stuffie ? | [02:09] |
mircea_popescu | ahahahaha josh zerlan ?! orly ? | [02:10] |
mircea_popescu | jesus buterin looks derpy in that picture. | [02:10] |
bounce | http://bitcoin2014.com/ is up top at the bitcoin foundation's website | [02:10] |
mircea_popescu | so basically... a bunch of people nobody's heard of, btctalk's most reviled shill and a coupla would-be journos ? | [02:10] |
asciilifeform | ;;google chestnut tree cafe | [02:10] |
gribble | The Chestnut Tree Cafe: |
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jurov | and "one of the first bitcoin users in Germany." | [02:11] |
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mircea_popescu | keonne Dan Held is hawt, i'm told by my intel dept | [02:11] |
jurov | should that concern me? | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | well maybe ? | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | "Meghan Kellison-Lords is a writer and activist from Pensacola, FL. She is the editor at Bitcoin Not Bombs, a writer at Young Voices and Bitcoin Magazine, office manager at Roberts and Roberts Brokerage, and volunteer at Sean’s Outpost Homeless Outreach. She is fascinated by" | [02:12] |
mircea_popescu | poor girl. | [02:12] |
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mircea_popescu | this is like token black guy, except with geeks and women. | [02:13] |
bounce | hmm. is the log a "legitimate medium" according to the "bitcoin 2014 definition of legitimate media"? needs letter from editor though. who edits the log? | [02:13] |
jurov | yes, it bears duble cherry truck insignia | [02:14] |
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mircea_popescu | well no, you can't go as press and harrangue the speakers. | [02:14] |
bounce | so it's get in free and don't critique or get in for $$$ and sing hosannas along with the prophets | [02:15] |
thestringpuller | omg i'm sick of the bitcoin foundation | [02:15] |
thestringpuller | just read the conference site...like | [02:15] |
thestringpuller | really? | [02:15] |
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mircea_popescu | thestringpuller if one tries to exist by pretending to exist, one's stuck with lulzier and lulzier pretense. | [02:15] |
mircea_popescu | bounce not exactly | [02:16] |
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mircea_popescu | in other news, i got a prescreen of mpoe-pr's dress for teh conference | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | shit's stunning. | [02:18] |
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jurov | she deserves better chain, too | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | one dares not discuss womenz chains. | [02:19] |
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bounce | she's going to be in vienna then? | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | when i say teh conference i mean teh conference, not random derpage | [02:19] |
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thestringpuller | THE CONFERENCE | [02:19] |
thestringpuller | probably one of the few if not only one that matters | [02:20] |
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thestringpuller | mircea_popescu are any core developers going to it? | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | 'core developers' << ? | [02:20] |
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bounce | whoops. I retract what I asked. | [02:20] |
mircea_popescu | i think cores kinda went out of fashion | [02:20] |
thestringpuller | yes 'core developers' | [02:20] |
thestringpuller | lol | [02:20] |
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mircea_popescu | liek what, 1975 ? | [02:21] |
thestringpuller | we know all the real code is developed by the nameless | [02:21] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i presume you still have some kl_core running somewhere ? | [02:21] |
asciilifeform | ferrite? | [02:22] |
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asciilifeform | not atm - but would love to. | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | well yeah. ferrite core. | [02:22] |
asciilifeform | how beautiful they were! | [02:22] |
asciilifeform | http://ljkrakauer.com/LJK/essays/corestack1s.jpg | [02:23] |
asciilifeform | http://blog.savel.org/stuff/20060111b.jpg | [02:23] |
asciilifeform | http://www.digibarn.com/collections/parts/dg-corememory/FerriteCoreMemoryDGC-Nova.jpg | [02:23] |
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mircea_popescu | kinda the last time knitting and it looked similar. | [02:23] |
jurov | thestringpuller: u goin? | [02:23] |
bounce | read somewhere the bitcoin foundation opened up their forum for all the world to read. somebody take a copy. ought to be plenty research material there. | [02:24] |
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asciilifeform | if i recall, they were made by skilled weavers. | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform yup | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | british textile industry is one of the antecessors of modern computers. | [02:24] |
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thestringpuller | jurov: I am incredibly tempted to book air fare, but as mod6 isn't going an I wanted to meet up with him there I decided to wait until next year for Series 3 | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | like british typewriter manufacturers | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | (the royal mcbee for instance mostly made money selling typewriters) | [02:25] |
thestringpuller | i'm still very tempted to book passage though... | [02:25] |
jurov | thestringpuller mircea threatened to move to argentina | [02:25] |
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mircea_popescu | bounce may be worth it yea | [02:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.05840002 = 0.292 BTC [-] | [02:27] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: is being a student a job? | [02:28] |
thestringpuller | Someone just told me "i have a job. Student." | [02:29] |
bounce | inasmuch as they're paying to have that job. | [02:29] |
mircea_popescu | well let's put it this way : if that's what one thinks their job is, | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | then that's probably what their job should be. | [02:31] |
BingoBoingo | https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/703-serious-allegations-is-this-michael-thymos-marquardt-part-of-the-foundation/ | [02:31] |
mod6 | yeah, just didn't work out this year. if its in SA next year, im pretty sure i'll be there. | [02:33] |
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mircea_popescu | sooo... they made public their posts about how they don't discuss publicly ? | [02:33] |
mircea_popescu | such win. | [02:33] |
BingoBoingo | Yeah | [02:34] |
BingoBoingo | Seems like the goat forum where the lulz sit just beneath the surface | [02:34] |
BingoBoingo | EIther that or just noone posts on their forums | [02:35] |
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mircea_popescu | just derpage about how "Law and Policy Steering Committee Information Started by Lindsay Holland Law and Policy Committee Chair: Mike Hearn Contact email for Chair: mhearn@bitcoinfoundation.org" | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | i mean herp mcderp, what can i tell you, birocratia maxima, some derp goes to target, buys a red stapler and an "Important Person" bumper sticker and suddenly we have yet another... important person with a red stapler. | [02:37] |
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mircea_popescu | it was better back when wikipedia retardation was mostly content to quarantine itself on wikipedia. but by now it's spilling the fuck over. | [02:38] |
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BingoBoingo | https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/884-oh-no-gavins-leaving/ | [02:39] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo it should be clear to all but the thickest, most disco-dan sort of people in their boat that the battle has been fought, and won, but not by them. | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | a minimally working conservation instinct would send everyone involved packing. | [02:40] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Sure. I seems that more defections from there are likely in the coming months. | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | who knows, perhaps then there won't be need to hoist the entire troop from the highest catarg, just a few heads. | [02:41] |
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ThickAsThieves | [02:42] | |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves define accost ? | [02:42] |
asciilifeform | these aren't 'defections,' any more than the proverbial rats who jump the sinking ship are 'mutineers.' | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform well the proverbial rats would be defectors, yes. maps quite exactly. | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | the important point being that she's sunk. | [02:42] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm willing to put anyone on the spot really | [02:42] |
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ThickAsThieves | as long as i agree with the line of questioning | [02:43] |
cgcardona_ | anyone gonna be at http://www.globalbtcsummit.com/en/ ? | [02:43] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Mutineers in the way they alert the loyal crew to the rat's low morale | [02:43] |
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asciilifeform | the animal that created the phoundation still lives | [02:43] |
asciilifeform | it will re-group under another name | [02:43] |
ThickAsThieves | reporter for Trilema Ragazine | [02:43] |
bounce | whoohoo an org chart. too bad it's not downloadable straight: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/796-bitcoin-foundation-org-chart-version-10-beta-march-22-2014/ | [02:43] |
davout | ThickAsThieves: "ragazine" i like this word | [02:44] |
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mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves so same goes to you then, ask vehehes a) how much did karpeles pay him to promote his scam ? and b) how much of the muppets' donations to "the foundation" went to his girlfriend. | [02:44] |
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ThickAsThieves | i dont think he'd answer thos equestions though | [02:44] |
ThickAsThieves | he'll just huff n puff | [02:44] |
ThickAsThieves | davout i didnt coin the word, i think i may have gotten it from someone else here | [02:45] |
* | bounce would probably suck at actually questioning, so go ahead if you'd like | [02:45] |
ThickAsThieves | is vehehe even going to Amsterdam | [02:45] |
BingoBoingo | https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/824-active-individual-membership-involvement-has-dropped-to-15/ | [02:45] |
ThickAsThieves | wait thats a dumb question | [02:45] |
ThickAsThieves | of course he will | [02:45] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Somehow+Bitcoin+Ragazine+and+Vitalik+and+Co,+seem+to+paint+this+as+if+he%22&complete=0 | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | check out that shit. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | beleeted. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo prepping a summation piece ? | [02:46] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Of course | [02:46] |
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mircea_popescu | davout i could have sworn i coined teh ragazine, but i can't find any reference | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | apparently i have an overactive imagination. | [02:47] |
ThickAsThieves | i'm so censorable | [02:47] |
cgcardona_ | schwagazine | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves it appears exactly twice in the log, on mar 21st, we're like two minutes apart. | [02:48] |
davout | cgcardona_: irc needs a "like" button | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | o shit twitter | [02:48] |
ThickAsThieves | it aint censored btw | [02:48] |
cgcardona_ | :) | [02:48] |
ThickAsThieves | "See More" | [02:48] |
ThickAsThieves | yeah my logs show mp saying it first | [02:50] |
mircea_popescu | nah, it wasn't invented in march | [02:50] |
mircea_popescu | it's older, i distinctly recall it being used last year. | [02:50] |
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jurov | #bitcoin-assets.log:[Monday 07 January 2013] [18:58:28] |
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mircea_popescu | oic. | [02:52] |
mircea_popescu | gotta learn how to grep right. | [02:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 11 @ 0.03009998 = 0.3311 BTC [-] {2} | [02:54] |
ThickAsThieves | actually peter isnt on the roster for Amsterdam | [02:54] |
ThickAsThieves | thought they are claling it their annual meeting | [02:54] |
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mircea_popescu | aww | [02:55] |
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bounce | not as speaker or panelist anyway | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform of course it'll regroup and so forth, what do you want, schlügen den teufel aus der welt ? | [02:57] |
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asciilifeform | lol | [02:58] |
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ThickAsThieves | "In 2009, non-Hispanic blacks, while only 13.6% of the population, accounted for 39.4% of the total prison and jail population." dafuck is a non-Hispanic black? | [02:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00099703 = 11.9145 BTC [-] | [02:59] |
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mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves people who aren't white and whose last name isn't rodriguez ? | [02:59] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.60399797 BTC [+] | [03:02] |
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BingoBoingo | http://gawker.com/this-could-be-a-baby-geep-a-rare-sheep-goat-hybrid-1560279115 | [03:03] |
ozbot | This Could Be a Baby Geep, a Rare Sheep-Goat Hybrid | [03:03] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo guy doesn't understand genetics. | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | black women happily married to black guys occasionally give birth to perfectly fair, blue eyed caucasian babies, doesn't automatically mean they've been porking the milkman. | [03:05] |
BingoBoingo | Of course | [03:06] |
cgcardona_ | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/48257846.jpg | [03:06] |
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mircea_popescu | cgcardona_ lol | [03:06] |
cgcardona_ | :-] | [03:06] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-05/former-abn-banker-schmittmann-wife-daughter-found-dead-at-home.html | [03:14] |
ozbot | Ex-ABN Banker Schmittmann, Wife, Daughter Found Dead at Home - Bloomberg | [03:14] |
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BingoBoingo | Cognitive Mining: http://valleywag.gawker.com/give-a-child-30-million-for-a-startup-keep-waiting-fo-1555561654/+sarah-hedgecock | [03:18] |
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steven-__ | http://www.vice.com/read/the-tanzanian-albino-hunt | [03:21] |
ozbot | The Fight to Stop Tanzania's Witch Doctors Butchering Albino People | VICE United States | [03:21] |
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asciilifeform | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-07/silicon-valley-cooks-to-housekeepers-facing-home-eviction.html | [03:22] |
ozbot | In Silicon Valley, a New Investment: Eviction - Bloomberg | [03:22] |
asciilifeform | (re: politics of housing in usa, bezzle-dollars, etc.) | [03:22] |
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MGK | Anyone interested in a graded MS65 casacius 1BTC coin? | [03:25] |
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asciilifeform | 'One in four renters now spend more than half of their income on housing, up from one in five a decade ago, according to a 2013 .... ' | [03:26] |
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asciilifeform | (usa) | [03:26] |
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mircea_popescu | MGK maybe nubbins` | [03:30] |
nubbins` | mmm? | [03:31] |
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MGK | nubbins you interested in a graded MS65 casacius 1BTC coin? | [03:32] |
nubbins` | what year and holo? | [03:32] |
MGK | I can make a thread on btc talk and post pictures if you like, asking only 1.5 | [03:32] |
MGK | I believe its on 13 | [03:32] |
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MGK | I have to be honest, Idont know much about them. I bought it off of NightOwl about 2 months ago | [03:33] |
cgcardona_ | pics? | [03:33] |
MGK | 1min I will take some now | [03:33] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.055 = 0.55 BTC [-] {2} | [03:33] |
MGK | yes its 2013 | [03:34] |
MGK | brass | [03:35] |
cgcardona_ | I recently did some research on casasius coins http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21kryh/potentially_25101_unspent_casascius_coins/ and http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/21nmck/sorted_25101_casascius_coins_by_denomination/ | [03:35] |
cgcardona_ | *casascius | [03:35] |
nubbins` | not too interested in the 2013 brass -- now if you could find me a 2011 series-2 1btc brass, on the other hand... | [03:35] |
cgcardona_ | high level summary—there are potentially 25101 unspent out of 65,000 ish | [03:35] |
MGK | eh well ill save the time taking pics then. | [03:35] |
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cgcardona_ | and then I ran a script to sort them by denomination as well. | [03:36] |
MGK | Only have this one left, just sent out my .5 to blazedout this morning | [03:36] |
cgcardona_ | 6 1000+ unspent coins still out there. | [03:36] |
cgcardona_ | prob the gold bars I guess though I'm unsure if those were included in the masterlist | [03:36] |
cgcardona_ | here's the full list https://www.casascius.com/fulllist.txt | [03:36] |
MGK | anyone a fan of pawn stars? I have an autographed old man 1oz silver coin lol | [03:37] |
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cgcardona_ | is this what you're talking about but w/ 1 btc loaded on it? | [03:38] |
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cgcardona_ | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348631 | [03:38] |
ozbot | Casascius 2013 0.5 BTC brass coin BTC 0.69 with shipping | [03:38] |
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MGK | already sold the .5 | [03:38] |
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cgcardona_ | but you have a 1btc? | [03:39] |
cgcardona_ | and you're asking 1.5 btc? | [03:39] |
mircea_popescu | cgcardona_ so few huh | [03:39] |
cgcardona_ | yea i imagine someone swimming around in Casasius coins like the scrooge mcduck of cryptos | [03:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10900 @ 0.00099706 = 10.868 BTC [+] | [03:40] |
MGK | yes, heres a pic of the 2 coins, if you like I can take another with my name on paper next to them.http://imgur.com/NNyBwbk | [03:41] |
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cgcardona_ | wow +1 to the old man coin | [03:41] |
MGK | The crack on the top is from my recliner , it fell in the it and I didnt notice, I reclined it and chipped the top but the coin is still locked in the case, wasnt damaged. | [03:42] |
MGK | I like the old man coin too, I just got back from LV about 3 weeks ago and I had to buy a couple. | [03:42] |
steven-__ | who is that on the old man coin? | [03:43] |
cgcardona_ | It's a tough one for me because I've not ordered a casasius from anyone other than the source (and then only aluminum ones for promo material alas) so i'm just not sure what I'd do if it wasn't legit (and I promise I'm not calling you a scammer. Just thinking out loud) | [03:43] |
MGK | Thats the old man himself!! | [03:43] |
cgcardona_ | the one and only old man! | [03:43] |
cgcardona_ | (from pawn stars the show on the history channel) | [03:43] |
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steven-__ | oh I don | [03:44] |
cgcardona_ | how do transactions like this work? do people just go off of bitcointalk trust scores? | [03:44] |
cgcardona_ | i've ordered cold wallet kits in the past and went off of that | [03:44] |
cgcardona_ | *cold storage | [03:45] |
MGK | No problem cgcard. I understand your concern and unfortunately theres not much I can do about that besides tell you I got the coin from NightOwl which is a reputable re-seller and was already graded. Ive never been able to actually touch this coin. | [03:45] |
cgcardona_ | sure—Caveat emptor and all. | [03:46] |
cgcardona_ | let me think about it. I'm def interested | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | cgcardona_ in general, wot scores. | [03:46] |
mike_c | ;;ident MGK | [03:46] |
gribble | Nick 'MGK', with hostmask 'MGK!42421ed3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.66.30.211', is not identified. | [03:46] |
cgcardona_ | i want to add some casascius to my cold storage | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | ;;gettrust nubbins` | [03:46] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user nubbins`: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 3 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013 | [03:46] |
MGK | Yes we would just go off of trust, I just sold a .5 on the forums he sent first and I shipped out this morning insured and tracking etc. Here is the link,https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557874.msg6112123#msg6112123 | [03:46] |
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cgcardona_ | mircea_popescu: oh cool | [03:46] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, get in the wot both of ye. | [03:47] |
MGK | I can respond to a PM on the forums to prove that is my account also | [03:47] |
MGK | I have a few deals on there, 1 for over $10k with Goat | [03:47] |
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mircea_popescu | gpg works a lot better than forum pms. | [03:48] |
cgcardona_ | for realz | [03:48] |
MGK | Ive heard of that but tbh its confusing, if youd like to walk me thru it I am willing to set it up | [03:48] |
cgcardona_ | yea let me watch that thread and once he confirms that he got it I'll think about it. thanks | [03:48] |
MGK | No problem, he will have it Wednesday. | [03:49] |
cgcardona_ | cool | [03:49] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;google thedrinkingrecord gpg | [03:49] |
gribble | PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog: |
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mircea_popescu | firstthng there | [03:49] |
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MGK | Anyone interested in a cointerra 2TH/s also I am offering the best price on the forums. If you are in between NY and Denver I can deliver it face to face. | [03:50] |
MGK | Alright I promise thats it lol | [03:51] |
cgcardona_ | that sounds nice. what are you asking for that? | [03:51] |
cgcardona_ | is it not legit to discuss deals here? sorry . don't want to spam the channel. still new here | [03:51] |
BingoBoingo | http://www.vice.com/read/syria-deraa-USA-Jordan-FSA-regime-CIA | [03:51] |
ozbot | I Learned to Fight Like an American at the FSA Training Camp in Jordan: America's Role in the Syrian | [03:51] |
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MGK | Im not sure, Ive been in this chat maybe 3 times. We can take it to private messages if you like. | [03:52] |
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mircea_popescu | MGK maybe give a look at the gribble maintained orderbook ? | [03:52] |
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MGK | I don't understand. | [03:53] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php | [03:53] |
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thestringpuller | ;;bids | [03:54] |
gribble | (bids [--under] [--market |
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thestringpuller | ;;sell | [03:54] |
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gribble | (sell |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 100 @ 0.0075 = 0.75 BTC [+] | [03:55] |
MGK | Ok I will over look that, thanks. | [03:56] |
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cgcardona_ | yea I'm still waiting on my freaking piper wallet to arrive. It's been a month since I paid for it and they haven't even sent me a confirmation email. And I've contacted them twice since. :-| | [04:09] |
cgcardona_ | buyer beware indeed. | [04:09] |
asciilifeform | lol at folks taking pre-orders for widgets that aren't baked yet | [04:09] |
cgcardona_ | yea I guess so. | [04:10] |
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cgcardona_ | all the threads that I read say it's a legit product and that the person who got one was stoked. | [04:10] |
cgcardona_ | but my experience has been hella poor | [04:10] |
cgcardona_ | i ordered 500 aluminum casascius and they arrived in like 4 days and I got an email | [04:10] |
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cgcardona_ | i ordered this https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/ | [04:11] |
cgcardona_ | and it arrived in like 3 days and I got a personal email from Canton. | [04:11] |
asciilifeform | i still don't get, why collect money unless you're ready to hand a widget over | [04:11] |
cgcardona_ | nothing.at.all from the piper team | [04:11] |
cgcardona_ | well to take money from people like me I suppose | [04:11] |
cgcardona_ | hrm | [04:11] |
asciilifeform | cgcardona_: isn't 'piper' just a 'raspberry' with bitcoind loaded? | [04:11] |
asciilifeform | you could make it yourself | [04:12] |
cgcardona_ | yes you're right I can make it myself. | [04:12] |
cgcardona_ | i'm considering it of course. | [04:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00099703 = 9.2724 BTC [-] | [04:12] |
asciilifeform | (i wouldn't. 'raspberry' is a terrible board) | [04:12] |
cgcardona_ | also I'm considering just taking their open source hardware and paying a team of people to churn them out and deliver them on time | [04:12] |
cgcardona_ | i'm sure there's a huge market for something that cool | [04:12] |
jborkl | why would you pay for that? | [04:12] |
cgcardona_ | I think it's pretty cool. | [04:13] |
cgcardona_ | we'll see if/when it arrives | [04:13] |
jborkl | a pi would not even run bitcoind worth a shit | [04:13] |
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asciilifeform | anyone who wants to can try this now | [04:13] |
asciilifeform | (result is quite sad) | [04:13] |
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jborkl | it would be easier and cheaper to get a free instance on AWS and run bitcoind on it | [04:13] |
jborkl | it you were so inclined | [04:14] |
asciilifeform | for wallet?! | [04:14] |
cgcardona_ | not if you're trying to create cold storage from an air locked box | [04:14] |
jborkl | no | [04:14] |
asciilifeform | lol! | [04:14] |
cgcardona_ | heh | [04:14] |
jborkl | but I would not put my wallet on a pi either? | [04:14] |
cgcardona_ | the wallets not on the pi | [04:14] |
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cgcardona_ | it's spits out paper wallets | [04:14] |
jborkl | so I did not think that applied | [04:14] |
kakobrekla | you dont need a bitcoind on a pi | [04:14] |
cgcardona_ | did you see the video? http://piperwallet.com/ | [04:14] |
cgcardona_ | it's only like 60 seconds | [04:14] |
cgcardona_ | i think it's a sweet concept | [04:15] |
asciilifeform | anyone here own a 'FLIR' scope? | [04:15] |
cgcardona_ | easier than https://bitcoinpaperwallet.com/ which involves me having a dedicaded computer and printer | [04:15] |
asciilifeform | and a 'piper' | [04:15] |
cgcardona_ | this just encapsulates it into one device | [04:15] |
asciilifeform | do you see where i'm going with this? | [04:15] |
asciilifeform | thermal printer. | [04:15] |
asciilifeform | ;;google optical tempest | [04:15] |
gribble | Information Leakage from Optical Emanations - applied-math.org: |
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cgcardona_ | are you talking about candling? | [04:16] |
asciilifeform | except now anyone can read your 'cold wallet' (as it is printed, naturally) from across the street. | [04:16] |
cgcardona_ | checking the links now | [04:16] |
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cgcardona_ | interesting | [04:16] |
asciilifeform | likewise the 'built in rng' is... raspberry's | [04:16] |
jborkl | thermal paper tends to degrade over time | [04:16] |
asciilifeform | or rather, broadcom's on-chip turd | [04:16] |
cgcardona_ | now i know why it's taking so damn long. THEY'RE SETTING UP A THERMAL CAMERA ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE | [04:17] |
cgcardona_ | *sorry for the caps* | [04:17] |
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mike_c | asciilifeform: what do you use to generate your wallet? | [04:17] |
asciilifeform | thermal tape makes great one-time pads | [04:17] |
asciilifeform | burn it with a butane lighter when finished. | [04:17] |
mike_c | or, what do you recommend? | [04:17] |
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asciilifeform | mike_c: i've an analogue rng, feeding /dev/random myself. | [04:18] |
mike_c | ah | [04:18] |
cgcardona_ | i turn on loud music and shake my booty to generate extra entropy myself | [04:18] |
asciilifeform | this is not a heroic feat | [04:18] |
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asciilifeform | http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/popul_top.jpg | [04:19] |
asciilifeform | (yes mp some. not sure what he did with them) | [04:19] |
cgcardona_ | oh I see that's by my Bizarro world clone cgCARDANO - very nice | [04:20] |
asciilifeform | for how it was plugged, | [04:20] |
asciilifeform | http://trilema.com/2013/unsorted-collection-of-various-cardano-related-updates-spurious-pics/ | [04:20] |
ozbot | Unsorted collection of various Cardano related updates + spurious pics pe Trilema - Un blog de Mirce | [04:20] |
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jborkl | why not pull a brainwallet, put it on a pi and make your wallet out of a bible verse. They are everywhere and you only have to remember what you part you put in | [04:20] |
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asciilifeform | jborkl: do this, and let's see how long the contents last | [04:21] |
cgcardona_ | ha | [04:21] |
mike_c | oh, of course. you have access to cardano guts :) | [04:21] |
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jborkl | ok, I will | [04:21] |
cgcardona_ | i figured just putting all of my btc behind a 'hello w0rld' brain wallet would be good to go | [04:21] |
asciilifeform | how long does it take to move a sliding window across 'gutenberg' archive and bruteforce. | [04:21] |
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jborkl | I will post up the adress tomorrow | [04:22] |
asciilifeform | mike_c: you (and anyone) also have access to analogue rng. open a textbook and pick your favourite... | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | cgcardona_ the more formal objection would be that you're trying to construct a bridge through the process of "here are some bricks i found, i wonder which cool way i could stack them together" | [04:22] |
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mircea_popescu | whilke this approach often creates half-decent "art" (known in this space as lulz) it neve actually makes a bridge. | [04:23] |
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jborkl | and you assuming you know what I made the address out of, and you would not irl | [04:23] |
jborkl | unless I beat it out of you, but that is a whole other story | [04:23] |
cgcardona_ | mircea_popescu: are you referring to my cold storage comments? (just trying to make the connection with what you're saying) | [04:24] |
asciilifeform | beat it out << this is why any apparatus that doesn't include a scram zapper is sad. | [04:24] |
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mike_c | open a textbook and pick your favourite... << or wait a month and disassemble a cardano. | [04:25] |
asciilifeform | mike_c: no need to disassemble. it comes in a clear chassis, with blueprints/sources | [04:25] |
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jborkl | what is a scram zapper? | [04:25] |
mike_c | even better. | [04:26] |
asciilifeform | jborkl: a special little gift for folks who want to take your keys by force. | [04:26] |
mike_c | it is a countermeasure for rectothermal cryptoanalysis. | [04:26] |
asciilifeform | partial countermeasure. like a rifle, it only works if fired. | [04:27] |
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asciilifeform | i can envision folks telling tales of adventure: '... and then i took my C off its safety...' | [04:27] |
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mircea_popescu | cgcardona_ nah, to your raspberi pi wallet | [04:32] |
cgcardona_ | yea that's what I thought you meant. Just wanted to clarify | [04:33] |
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mircea_popescu | well, "your". just this idle example you made up obivously. | [04:35] |
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danielpbarron | i have a piper | [04:37] |
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danielpbarron | but i got mine last year | [04:38] |
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danielpbarron | i have since ordered some more rolls of paper and I also have not recieved a confirmation email or shipment | [04:38] |
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cgcardona_ | ok well I guess that's 'good' to hear that someone else hasn't received any confirmation recently. | [04:38] |
cgcardona_ | at least I know i'm not the only one left hanging. | [04:39] |
danielpbarron | i heard the piper guy was at one of the conferences recently | [04:39] |
danielpbarron | maybe he's too busy to fill orders | [04:39] |
cgcardona_ | supply != demand. I smell an opportunity. | [04:40] |
danielpbarron | i use it to print 1 mBit slips to hand out | [04:40] |
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danielpbarron | i had to hack it a little to make it stop printing the ugly extra private key and url at the bottom | [04:41] |
danielpbarron | but i'm almost out of paper :< | [04:42] |
danielpbarron | it's more annoying to not have the paper than to be ripped off for a little coin | [04:42] |
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Guest45980 | hey guys, do you know a chart of the hashpower of the whole altcoin space? | [12:34] |
Guest45980 | sum of all hashpowers of all altcoins | [12:34] |
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keonne | mircea_popescu: put in a good word for me | [13:30] |
mircea_popescu | sec writing brb | [13:30] |
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keonne | np | [13:30] |
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bitesak | ;;ticker | [14:34] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 449.0, Best ask: 450.95, Bid-ask spread: 1.95000, Last trade: 450.95, 24 hour volume: 8774.11284429, 24 hour low: 446.0, 24 hour high: 461.17, 24 hour vwap: 452.12891933 | [14:34] |
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mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/gotta-love-that-negro-speak/ | [14:50] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9750 @ 0.00099756 = 9.7262 BTC [+] | [14:55] |
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mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves obviously it's just a draft, i wouldn't expect to be filmed verbatim. | [15:06] |
mircea_popescu | trilema looks for two things to find bots : whether you've actually loaded the page you're commenting on (which can throw it for a loop if the page you load gets expired while you try to comment, but this is indeed rare) and whether youve loaded it very recently (like a few seconds sort of recently). | [15:07] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation: | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | the real problem is that it makes it impossible to differentiate talented managers of resources from fools who happen to be friends with the bezzle-kings << HARDLY :) | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | this is like saying it's impossible to use the wot | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | in fact, exactly the same problem. | [15:09] |
mircea_popescu | Mats_cd03 i imagined that's what you probably meant, but i discarded it because it made 0 sense. you don't care what the channel is like, you encrypt the message not the conduit. | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | i can somehow send you email perfectly safely by pastebining it. do the same, alter the firmware to use gpg signed packets. | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | you don't need new hardware for this in any snese. | [15:10] |
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punkman | you care what the channel is like, or it might just offer up DMA access to the other end | [15:12] |
mircea_popescu | that's not the channel :) | [15:13] |
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mircea_popescu | but anyway, if the thing actually offers dma to all comers, idun see why you'd buy one | [15:14] |
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mircea_popescu | just you know, redirect as many as you need. | [15:14] |
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jurov | kakobrekla yes. if someone is in my machine *and* knows what i'm doing on the ethernet port, i'm having bigger problem that some warm wallet | [15:16] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform orlov definitely has a point there. bnw style stratification is a definite future available. | [15:16] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla maybe point out to him that cardano will likely beat him to market and it'll be cheaper to just wait ? | [15:17] |
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mircea_popescu | o wait, you're banned, i got no pr and gerald hasn't yet enough of a clue to be here. | [15:17] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess he gets to waste some more resources. | [15:17] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: RE: Negro speak -> The sleeping bag luffa reference most likely refers to the sponges, as most american sleeping bags have cheap synthetic interiors and fillings | [15:18] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo yes, but does it feel like the warm comforting feminine touch of the mother, or of the wife ? | [15:18] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: so as of now there is no direct evidence "look here rpi is fucked" just a general concern over all products on the shelfs << all PROPRIETARY, closed products. | [15:19] |
mircea_popescu | like, you know, i'll never eat something i'm not allowed to look at. | [15:19] |
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mircea_popescu | it can be chocolate truffles for all i care. | [15:20] |
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jurov | anything else on the shelf contains magnutide more close code than rpi | [15:20] |
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jurov | *magnitude | [15:20] |
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mircea_popescu | a not is enough. | [15:20] |
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mircea_popescu | i never heard of any practical classification of viruses by... size. what diff does it make, 2kb. | [15:21] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://www.bbc.com/news/health-26920521#sa-ns_mchannel=rss&ns_source=PublicRSS20-sa | [15:21] |
ozbot | BBC News - Paralysed men move again with spinal stimulation | [15:21] |
jurov | so what. imma gonna fucked someday one way or other | [15:21] |
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jurov | the openssl shit today... to be 100% sure one'd need to rebuild everything | [15:22] |
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dexX7 | the guys in -dev said updating openssl only is fine | [15:23] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov wanna hear something funny ? i just paid the largest bonus today, of my entire history in bussiness | [15:23] |
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mircea_popescu | do you know to whom ? to the guy who nixed upgrade from 10.04 on all my ubuntu systems, because, he said, "meh". | [15:23] |
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mircea_popescu | guess who never run any broken openssh. possibly the.only.one.on.the.internet. | [15:24] |
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jurov | that' s just a luck | [15:25] |
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mircea_popescu | yeah, the first time people do this sort of shit i call it luck. | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | by the fifth or so the bonuses start coming out. | [15:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15200 @ 0.0009984 = 15.1757 BTC [+] {2} | [15:45] |
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mircea_popescu | bounce: hmm... wonder how those bugs ended up in openssl and gnutls. << you needn't wonder. examine the matter plainly : for no appreciable reason, the usg muppets posing as "core devs" started work to meld pki into bitcoin protocol. | [15:49] |
mircea_popescu | this was no coincidence, this has been a) deliberately inserted and b) widely and systematically exploited. | [15:49] |
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mircea_popescu | everyone involved is going to his grave with his tail attached. | [15:50] |
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mircea_popescu | s/his/this. | [15:52] |
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truffles | Apocalyptic i didnt think i gave a clear picture of how things went down so ill paste relevant lines | [16:04] |
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truffles | hmm many lines were exchanged heh | [16:05] |
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keonne | I think there are two K's in grokking mircea_popescu | [16:06] |
keonne | also very glad im lazy and never update my shit, take your rolling releases and stuff them. | [16:07] |
mircea_popescu | english has double k's ? what is this, wannabe-italian ? | [16:07] |
keonne | definetely luck, and not smarts in my case. | [16:07] |
keonne | im pretty sure Heinlein made up the word | [16:07] |
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keonne | back to reading brb | [16:08] |
mircea_popescu | good for him but i ain't double k'ing | [16:08] |
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mircea_popescu | well unless it's moar dakka or something | [16:09] |
keonne | fair enough, we all have principles we need to live by - i respect that | [16:09] |
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truffles | Apocalyptic i'll copy paste when ure around | [16:10] |
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mircea_popescu | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RainbowPimpGear | [16:11] |
ozbot | Main/Rainbow Pimp Gear - Television Tropes & Idioms | [16:11] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [16:11] |
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dexX7 | do you have any info about real cases were gpg contracts and similar were binding in a legal matter? | [16:14] |
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keonne | lol | [16:15] |
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mircea_popescu | dexX7 pgp per se no, but akc is commonly used. | [16:16] |
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punkman | dexX7: a contract is a contract, it doesn't matter what kind of paper you use, or how you scribble your signature | [16:16] |
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mircea_popescu | that aside, yes, the court is not at liberty to disconsider it anyway. | [16:17] |
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mircea_popescu | ie what punkman said. | [16:17] |
dexX7 | akc? | [16:17] |
mircea_popescu | asymmetric key criptography | [16:18] |
dexX7 | ah | [16:18] |
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dexX7 | punkman: but a contract is worthless, if it could be easily forged | [16:19] |
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mircea_popescu | that's repudiation, which is a different matter | [16:21] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33682 @ 0.00099589 = 33.5436 BTC [-] {2} | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | (ie, to say "i did sign this but it should not bind me because it's a gpg contract" and to say "i never signed this" are different stands in court) | [16:21] |
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keonne | The point is valid, everyone who’s never tried it before imagines sex in the bushes is a great idea. I know better. | [16:25] |
keonne | so true | [16:25] |
mircea_popescu | keonne and consider i have the benefit of slaves. | [16:26] |
punkman | it's not that bad | [16:26] |
punkman | sand is worse | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | "wanna get on your back so as to insulate me from all this shit ? " "sure!" | [16:26] |
mircea_popescu | punkman possibly a normal average bath tub is the worst. | [16:27] |
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mircea_popescu | seawater's pretty bad too. | [16:27] |
keonne | yes i lost my virginity on a beach | [16:27] |
keonne | besides sand in undesirable locations, pretty sure we were being watched by those who made the beach their home. | [16:27] |
truffles | ewww sand in privates | [16:27] |
punkman | seawater is weird yeah, screws with the lubrication | [16:28] |
keonne | in fact, I know were were being watched, because three came out of the dunes to watch. | [16:28] |
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keonne | water in general screws with the lubrication | [16:28] |
keonne | plus coming in any kind of water is asking for trouble | [16:28] |
truffles | not to mention all the parasites that could be in it | [16:29] |
keonne | *that are in it | [16:29] |
truffles | but for some ppl whats one more disease hehe | [16:29] |
mircea_popescu | there's no cunt parasite | [16:29] |
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mircea_popescu | tho granted that'd be some scary shit. | [16:29] |
keonne | the cunt I was with then was a parasite | [16:29] |
mircea_popescu | now that's a different story :D | [16:30] |
keonne | i really should not be using my real name on here...lol | [16:30] |
truffles | thats pretty unique | [16:30] |
punkman | I've spotted a nice glass elevaror that's begging for it, only goes 5 floors up though | [16:30] |
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punkman | *elevator | [16:31] |
truffles | to buy or ??? | [16:31] |
punkman | to fuck in | [16:31] |
keonne | ok well i finished the waterfall of an article | [16:31] |
truffles | solo? | [16:31] |
keonne | now to swim through the river of footnotes | [16:31] |
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truffles | i just thought its interesting what the house looks like if its 5 floors! | [16:34] |
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keonne | so is there like a class of people here who do nothing but connect and disconnect all day and never chat? or am I missing something. | [16:36] |
truffles | lol | [16:37] |
truffles | chat rooms are a new concept to some | [16:37] |
ThickAsThieves | mjr1 probly uses an android app or something that wakes everytime he checks his phone | [16:37] |
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keonne | that makes sense ThickAsThieves i already ignored him though | [16:38] |
truffles | lol | [16:38] |
truffles | he's an interesting fellow | [16:38] |
keonne | Does he contribute to chat? I dont want to miss anything | [16:38] |
keonne | ah ok | [16:38] |
truffles | creative mind imo | [16:38] |
ThickAsThieves | well if it's the normal mjr, he pops in every couple mos | [16:38] |
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keonne | I unignored, perhaps I was a bit too hasty, and the android explination makes sense | [16:39] |
truffles | he peaked at chatting last yr i guess | [16:39] |
keonne | lol | [16:39] |
truffles | ya he actually spoke a bunch before | [16:39] |
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truffles | only has 2 blog posts | [16:40] |
keonne | seriously tho, learning to screen session is an important part of irc | [16:40] |
truffles | some1 should nudge him to do a 3rd | [16:40] |
keonne | god dammit my inbox is filled with heartbleed bullshit | [16:40] |
truffles | heartbleed? | [16:40] |
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keonne | http://heartbleed.com/ | [16:41] |
ozbot | Heartbleed Bug | [16:41] |
keonne | can I borrow your rock truffles ? | [16:41] |
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keonne | i'd like to hide under it | [16:41] |
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truffles | ha | [16:41] |
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ThickAsThieves | give an exploit a good name and everyone pays attention | [16:42] |
truffles | im stingy | [16:42] |
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keonne | they even had a logo ready | [16:42] |
keonne | lol | [16:42] |
dexX7 | + a nice landing page | [16:43] |
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keonne | is it running google analytics | [16:43] |
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keonne | nope, it would have been hilarious had it been | [16:44] |
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dexX7 | haha yea | [16:44] |
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truffles | keonne what irc client do u use? | [16:46] |
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keonne | irssi | [16:47] |
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keonne | well i connect to a shell, and run irssi inside a screen session | [16:47] |
truffles | i prefer mirc | [16:47] |
truffles | looks weird | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | punkman make sure you place lookouts outside | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | you'll want the pics | [16:48] |
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mircea_popescu | keonne guy used to try and organise a ny central park bitcoin group buy thing. | [16:48] |
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keonne | 5 story elevator doesnt give much time really | [16:49] |
keonne | mircea_popescu: mjr ? | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | yea | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | and the point of fucking is going up and down repeatedly, i thought. | [16:49] |
keonne | i already unignored him, again i rather not miss interesting chats, i just havent seen anything but connect/dissconnect | [16:49] |
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keonne | oooh, that explains what im doing wrong | [16:50] |
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truffles | push the emergency button when reach 5th? | [16:50] |
MisterE | hmm heartbleed is nasty | [16:50] |
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MisterE | truffles: floor 5 1/2? | [16:50] |
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truffles | i dont, but id watch :D | [16:51] |
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MisterE | What movie was that? | [16:51] |
truffles | nooo | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | keonne in principle ytou can ignore part/join msgs | [16:51] |
truffles | im just saying not something id do | [16:51] |
MisterE | Being Mircea Popescu? :D | [16:51] |
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MisterE | Being John Malkovich I think :) | [16:51] |
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keonne | i could write a script for irrsi i suppose | [16:52] |
keonne | but then mjr wins | [16:52] |
truffles | i actually think mp sex would appear boring id skip that | [16:52] |
bounce | a script to ignore joins/parts? | [16:52] |
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keonne | oh wait | [16:52] |
keonne | even better | [16:53] |
bounce | /ignore * CRAP already takes care of it. not a good idea if you're chanop, but if you're not, well, this is freenode. it's full of CRAP. | [16:53] |
keonne | "/ignore -channels #chan1,#chan2,#chan3 * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS" | [16:53] |
* | mircea_popescu thinks keonne may be a littrle bit dyslexic :D | [16:53] |
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keonne | mircea_popescu: highly likely | [16:53] |
keonne | or just careless | [16:54] |
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keonne | lets see if I did that right.. | [16:55] |
keonne | someone say something ? | [16:56] |
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mircea_popescu | ;;echo hey keonne you broke the ircernets. | [16:57] |
gribble | hey keonne you broke the ircernets. | [16:57] |
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keonne | mircea_popescu: im curious as to why you say that | [16:57] |
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keonne | my father and grandfather are dyslexic | [16:58] |
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keonne | yeah i fucked somehting up | [17:02] |
Python | interface unloaded | [17:02] |
Tcl | interface unloaded | [17:02] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c: it is pretty horrible to run this against one of your servers and watch its memory get dumped to screen. << now imagine if hearn & co had their way and openssl was bundled in every "reference" bitcoin client. | [23:45] |
mike_c | it is, right? hence 0.9.1 | [23:45] |
asciilifeform | lol!! | [23:45] |
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mircea_popescu | someone actually downloaded 0.9.1 ? | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | i mean other than to point and laugh. | [23:46] |
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mike_c | it's not released yet. it is the fix for 0.9, which is vulnerable | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | o o i c. | [23:46] |
mircea_popescu | keonne wtf is it with dyslexics and esperanto | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | it's like goth music and fat girls for crying out loud | [23:47] |
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mircea_popescu | Chris_Sabian it's unconfirmed as of yet and i can't conveniently see it. you dun goofed ? | [23:48] |
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mircea_popescu | and .9 was the fix for .8.x, which was... broken. | [23:49] |
mircea_popescu | then when i say satoshi quit mostly because he didn't want to be involved with these fucktards anymore people act as if this is somehow controversial. | [23:50] |
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bounce | well, there's a new chief developer guy now. everything gonna be better now, right? | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [23:59] |
mircea_popescu | an' im working on the killshot as we speak. | [23:59] |
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