Forum logs for 08 Apr 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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AndroUser ;;ticker [00:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 162.04000, Best ask: 162.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 162.00000, 24 hour volume: 55812.02397179, 24 hour low: 142.50000, 24 hour high: 162.90000, 24 hour vwap: 152.77611 [00:02]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 100 @ 0.1806 = 18.06 BTC [-] [00:02]
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ThickAsThieves $avg [00:08]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 151.60 [00:09]
deadweasel nice. [00:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 3 @ 1.93 = 5.79 BTC [+] [00:11]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7827 BTC [+] [00:16]
kakobrekla >>We are not collecting any money here, this is an idea that will strictly use Bitcoins. [00:17]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169663.0 [00:17]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla lmao. right. [00:18]
mircea_popescu because "the people" can do anything they set their mind to. [00:18]
mircea_popescu at least just as soon as they find it. [00:18]
benkay what do you mean, mircea_popescu? [00:19]
benkay apologies if I'm late to the party... [00:19]
mircea_popescu not rly, just read the last half dozen lines [00:20]
benkay who are you calling "the people"? [00:20]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=169663.0 [00:21]
benkay i'm reading that. are you talking about everyone in the thread? the individual proposing the thing? the followers? [00:21]
mircea_popescu yeah. :) [00:21]
mircea_popescu "my full name is David Tenemaza Kramaley - you can look me up in the UK companies house as a registered director. I've been featured in the BBC, Business Insider, The Times, National Geographic, Radio 4, etc... I can proof all of this to serious investors." [00:21]
mircea_popescu he's a registered director that can't spell "prove" [00:22]
benkay spelling, man [00:22]
jborkl and he needs 100 bitcoins.cant afford that he should leave [00:22]
mircea_popescu Hello I am son of Prince which I can proof with 40 degree alcohol. [00:23]
mircea_popescu You drink it, you see it. [00:23]
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benkay hm [00:23]
benkay it's not a terribly bad idea, but i see what you mean about the individual. [00:23]
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mircea_popescu We need to raise 105 BTC. Each 1.5 BTC buys 1 share in the new business. Max 25 Shares per investor. [00:23]
benkay yeah, yeah. [00:24]
jborkl maybe he used some of that berechovka that was floating around last year [00:24]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 105 / 1.5 [00:24]
gribble 70 [00:24]
mircea_popescu 70 shares, max 25 per investor. [00:24]
mircea_popescu isnt this odd ? [00:24]
jborkl lol good maf skills also [00:24]
jborkl proof his maf [00:24]
mircea_popescu The opportunity [00:25]
mircea_popescu I'm here to propose a take over of www.bitcoingem.com together. I was made aware that this is the first chain game and by the looks of its traffic stats its pretty well established. [00:25]
mircea_popescu o for fucks sake. [00:25]
mircea_popescu he wants to pay 10k for a gemponzi ?! [00:25]
benkay yeah dude [00:25]
mircea_popescu he could buy my used socks... [00:26]
mircea_popescu i throw them out anyway. [00:26]
jborkl someone should ipo all these shitty ideas.oh wait we already did that ... [00:26]
benkay this isn't an ipo scale thing [00:26]
mircea_popescu no listen to this : "Why do I think we can triple profits? [00:26]
mircea_popescu I ran a social games company on Facebook since 2008 to 2012; in the 5 years of operation I made many games. " [00:26]
mircea_popescu guy codes but wants to pay 10k for something I could probably werite myself [00:26]
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benkay this is the kind of ad hoc business that is enabled by bitcoin [00:28]
benkay limited ownership [00:28]
mircea_popescu limited connectivity to sanity, more like. [00:28]
benkay there is a remote possibilty the gentleman has done this thing before and sees an underutilized asset he can buy low and turn the volume up on. [00:29]
benkay with a recognized brand. [00:29]
benkay all he really has to do is buy ads [00:29]
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mircea_popescu in that case he just makes a lowball offer, buys the site and goes on his way [00:30]
Troic I thought the gem thing was a freak novelty gizmo fad, I liked the bitcoin flower better :). [00:30]
mircea_popescu if his lowball offer is turned down he puts one guy on the project and has the site replicated by wednesday [00:30]
benkay but that's not what homeboy wants to do [00:30]
benkay apparently [00:30]
mircea_popescu wants. it's not a matter of wants. [00:31]
mircea_popescu there's a reason I ipo already functioning sites. [00:31]
benkay and that is? [00:31]
mircea_popescu anyone's a theoretical entrepreneur [00:31]
mircea_popescu practically, you gotta bring something to the table. if you allow this model where the homeboy wants you to pay for his acquisition [00:32]
mircea_popescu all he's bringing is a little nigerian skill. [00:32]
benkay so? [00:33]
benkay and a willingness to do it, and possibly a track record of having done it [00:33]
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mircea_popescu i have a lot of trouble believing that. [00:33]
benkay oh sure but let's say theoretically [00:34]
mircea_popescu theoretically maybe. [00:34]
benkay remote chance and all that [00:34]
mircea_popescu but yeah, pretty darn remote. [00:34]
benkay not the point [00:34]
mircea_popescu here's the problem : suppose i'm an investment fund. i have 10k btc. [00:34]
mircea_popescu i put 10btc in 1k such projects [00:34]
mircea_popescu 985 flounder, because they were in fact run by idiots, nigerians and uidiot nigerians. [00:35]
mircea_popescu the rermainder 14 will not be able to bring me 10001 btc in total. [00:35]
benkay i don't really think he's looking at an investment-caliber round [00:35]
mircea_popescu 10 btc. [00:35]
benkay so you're saying that statistically he's likely to fail. also a thing anyone who puts money into companies should expect. [00:36]
mircea_popescu no, i'm not saying that statistically he's likel;y to fail [00:36]
mircea_popescu i am saying that the statistically expected benefit is degrees of magnitude under the statistically expected loss. [00:37]
mircea_popescu as in, a 1 in 1000 shot at making 10% on your investment, and a 999 in 1000 shot at 90% loss of cvapital. [00:37]
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benkay of course [00:37]
mircea_popescu ;;calc (1 * 1.1 + 999 * .1)/1000 [00:37]
gribble 0.101 [00:37]
benkay if one invested in the idiots [00:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. [00:38]
benkay but individuals beat the markets all the time by developing expertise [00:38]
mircea_popescu well, my expertise tells me this guy is lieing when he claims he had success. [00:38]
benkay heh. [00:38]
benkay like [00:38]
benkay worked in the presence of accidental success? [00:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00064551 = 10.8446 BTC [-] [00:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00064501 = 0.8385 BTC [-] [00:38]
mircea_popescu ok, that i can buy. [00:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00064063 = 0.4484 BTC [-] [00:39]
benkay individuals can learn a lot by seeing things happen. humans experience the world and evolce. [00:39]
mircea_popescu seeing requires a relatively clean lens. [00:39]
benkay evolve*. not that many *do* obviously, but it happens. [00:39]
benkay a clean lens is not necessarily a requirement for success. [00:39]
mircea_popescu people who imagine they're being entrepreneurs and in general doods preocupied with posturing and maintaining apparences [00:40]
mircea_popescu rarely learn anything. [00:40]
benkay but the individuals they mock look very similar to them. [00:40]
mircea_popescu ya well... [00:40]
benkay i wish i could meet the guy [00:41]
benkay mostly because i'm trying to develop expertise in the evaluating of people thing [00:41]
benkay what sorts of things do you invest in, mircea_popescu? [00:41]
mircea_popescu anything that makes sense [00:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.28 BTC [-] [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.276 = 0.552 BTC [-] [00:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.2716 = 0.8148 BTC [-] [00:43]
benkay ugh there is a video about him [00:43]
bitesak ;;ticker [00:43]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 164.10000, Best ask: 164.89994, Bid-ask spread: 0.79994, Last trade: 164.10000, 24 hour volume: 57855.56993253, 24 hour low: 142.51000, 24 hour high: 164.90000, 24 hour vwap: 153.31309 [00:43]
mjr___ and here i was being nervous about 164 call... [00:44]
mjr___ lol [00:44]
AndroUser Learn to do the opposite of what you feel ; [00:46]
ThickAsThieves can always go down [00:46]
MJR__ both are true [00:46]
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MJR__ that's why I got the 164 calls in the first place...calls haven't let down so far [00:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.93 BTC [+] [00:47]
AndroUser It will go down, but when.. [00:47]
AndroUser Hence a strategy with calls, puts and holding in a combination that makes sense no matter what happens [00:48]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136490667277.jpg [00:50]
AndroUser You cheeky cheeky [00:51]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 3 @ 0.2 = 0.6 BTC [+] [00:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00338 = 0.0473 BTC [+] [00:54]
MJR__ mircea_popescu: nice [00:56]
thestringpuller $avg [00:56]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 152.20 [00:56]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I feel as though you are an opponent to education because of the tendency for the young's reluctance to "listen" [00:57]
mircea_popescu i'm an opponent to free education, and also to nonviolent education. [00:57]
mircea_popescu if you only educate about half the kids, and beat the shit out of about half of those it works nicely. [00:58]
thestringpuller yes, you would use corporal punishment on individuals, they get 4 lashes everytime they tell you the integral of 2X is X^2 instead of X^2+C [00:59]
thestringpuller :P [00:59]
MJR__ lol [00:59]
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mircea_popescu nah. [01:01]
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mircea_popescu they get dunked into the riever every time they say "I feel what the author really means" [01:01]
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jurov bitcoin-central.net pretty much died.. spread 80-120 eur [01:02]
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mircea_popescu jurov not open for trading yet is it ? [01:02]
thestringpuller jurov: wha? [01:03]
AndroUser Its open tomorrow [01:03]
AndroUser Its read only now [01:03]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7827 BTC [+] [01:03]
jurov ah ic [01:03]
thestringpuller did the coinlab deal with mtgox fall through? [01:04]
AndroUser With orders close to mkt price cancelled [01:04]
jurov On Sunday, April 7th at 11:00PM CET/Paris Time, full trading will resume with the ability to create and cancel buy and sell orders. [01:04]
AndroUser Fair enough [01:05]
jurov so at least orders could be able to get placed now [01:05]
jurov or in a hour [01:05]
mircea_popescu ya something like that. [01:05]
AndroUser Its passed already 11h [01:06]
AndroUser Good night! We survived another day in bitcoin land [01:06]
ThickAsThieves So we're lookin at 175-180 tomorrow it seems [01:07]
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jurov lol i'm actually in the same timezone.. just confused by summertime [01:07]
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jurov ;;asks 179.99 [01:08]
gribble There are currently 6231.4017 bitcoins offered at or under 179.99 USD, worth 1061300.05165 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [01:08]
mjr___ its crazy to see all the tiny amounts of bitcoin i have left across the web [01:13]
mjr___ different mining pools and exchanges [01:13]
mjr___ i think they may need to lower the sending threshhold eventually [01:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.407 = 0.814 BTC [-] [01:15]
thestringpuller !ticker havelock him [01:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.82000000 / 1.84970968 / 1.93000000 (31 shares, 57.34100000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.90441977 / 2.06000000 (86 shares, 163.78010000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85548093 / 2.08000000 (682 shares, 1265.43799220 BTC) [01:15]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/rape-is-fun-or-lets-fuck-up-adria-richards/#comment-92655 [01:16]
mircea_popescu we have winners. [01:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.30999999 BTC [+] [01:20]
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thestringpuller okay mircea_popescu is officially the rubber band man [01:26]
thestringpuller img macro to ensue [01:27]
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mjr___ i kinda wish you and vexare had continued in english [01:30]
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mjr___ it was starting to look interesting [01:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7888 BTC [+] [01:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7889 = 4.7334 BTC [+] [01:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 10 @ 0.4 = 4 BTC [+] [01:31]
mircea_popescu i was just telling him off. [01:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.4 BTC [+] [01:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.40888888 = 0.8178 BTC [+] [01:31]
mircea_popescu english just doesn't deliver under the telling off rubric. [01:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+] [01:32]
MJR__ nice [01:33]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 63 @ 0.0042 = 0.2646 BTC [-] [01:33]
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jurov mircea, deposits please :) [01:36]
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kakobrekla ;;goxlag [01:38]
gribble MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU). [01:39]
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jurov it could have said something about sending bitcoins via quantum entanglement [01:40]
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mircea_popescu jurov you know i don't highlight on mircea [01:43]
jurov yea it's not *so* urgent [01:43]
mircea_popescu haha k [01:44]
Bowjob rape adria [01:44]
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jurov http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/the-bitcoiners-press-manual/#comment-92651 [01:50]
jurov ^^^ deep metaphysical discussion culminated by wisdom "for mating purposes, world population count doesn't matter" [01:50]
mjr___ jurov: lol [01:51]
jurov and everything else is akin to mating anyway [01:51]
mircea_popescu isn't it ? [01:52]
jurov undecided on it [01:52]
mircea_popescu so it IS deep metaphysical discussion :D [01:52]
jurov indeed [01:52]
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dub lol http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34781 [02:00]
dub I say old chap. Down with this sort of thing! [02:01]
mircea_popescu Responsible department: Department for Culture, Media and Sport [02:01]
mircea_popescu totally. [02:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.emmaharriett.co.uk/ ? [02:02]
dub dunno https://twitter.com/EmmaHarriett too was looking for bitcoin references [02:03]
mircea_popescu http://www.castingcallpro.com/uk/view.php?uid=377118 [02:03]
mircea_popescu can [02:03]
mircea_popescu 't be a 30yo acress chick can it ?! [02:03]
dub comes accross like your typical limey toff [02:03]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what does BCB stand for? [02:04]
mircea_popescu bitcoin central bank [02:04]
thestringpuller is that like a joke? [02:04]
mircea_popescu sort-of [02:05]
mircea_popescu dub more like the typical unmaffy muff. [02:05]
dub is that the forum/otc masturbator? [02:05]
dub I honestly cannot tell if he's a troll or not [02:05]
mircea_popescu un-maffy ie didn't learn to multiply past 5 [02:06]
mircea_popescu and muff as in, bird. [02:06]
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btcc100 http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=9059 [02:09]
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deadweasel pretty sure that has a virus [02:11]
btcc100 no its a gambling site [02:12]
thestringpuller lol [02:12]
deadweasel :D [02:12]
btcc100 make up to 17x your bet, its easy, game [02:12]
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thestringpuller I'd rather gamble on the market [02:12]
deadweasel it's easy, game! [02:12]
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deadweasel finally an easy, game! [02:13]
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mjr___ its an interesting idea for a game [02:16]
benkay im only interested in one game [02:19]
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dub I find browsing the net from american IPs quite unsettling [02:22]
benkay what's different? [02:23]
dub the ad bubble has a palpable craziness to it [02:23]
benkay bubble of advertising companies? [02:23]
dub targeted advertising [02:24]
benkay oh oh [02:24]
benkay "this one trick" etc? [02:24]
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dub from my home space I get adds for international travel, hotels and insurance [02:24]
dub via US I get offers of 'shocking footage' about chinese gold hoarding, anit-obama liberal agenda shit and emergency supplies [02:25]
mircea_popescu i can attest us adverising was always insane [02:26]
dub two anti-obama ads no less [02:26]
mircea_popescu in the 90s they were shockingly insane for the european mind [02:27]
dub this is for a website sample size of one admittedly [02:29]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7888 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7889 = 3.1556 BTC [+] [02:30]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+] [02:31]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu so the BCB is the bitcoin illuminati [02:45]
thestringpuller that's pretty cool [02:45]
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thestringpuller !ticker ^OIX [02:50]
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assbot Shit. You ain't even old enough to smoke. [02:50]
thestringpuller !ticker m ^OIX [02:50]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 109.52216404 / 136.8194837 / 153.12818005 (23843 shares, 5,904.78 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [02:50]
mjr___ anyone know a good way to track bitcoin activity in kinda small areas [02:52]
mjr___ specifically the dominican republic [02:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01797 BTC [-] [02:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01797 BTC [-] [02:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.017979 BTC [+] [02:55]
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dub DR is a big kiddy sex tourism place, expect bitcoin to be popular [02:57]
Troic buy / bribe data from exchanges ? [02:58]
mjr___ lol [02:58]
mjr___ its just close to the US, and I have some family there [02:58]
dub surely Bruce Wagner has a network there, offer up somelittle boy butt [02:58]
dub its a popular place for the NANOG conf for above reasons [02:59]
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deadweasel NANOG? [03:00]
deadweasel is that nambla from south park? [03:01]
Namworld over 160 USD/BTC... [03:01]
Namworld where is the end to all this? [03:01]
kakobrekla no end [03:01]
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Bowjob Oh wow. this picture won something [03:02]
Bowjob http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136402734766.jpg [03:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00151 BTC [-] [03:02]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00151 = 0.003 BTC [-] [03:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 500 @ 0.0015 = 0.75 BTC [-] [03:02]
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thestringpuller !ticker b bitvps [03:04]
assbot Quest for vision is a great blessing. [03:04]
thestringpuller !ticker btctc bitvps [03:04]
assbot [BTCT:BITVPS] 1D: 0.00131 / 0.00153 / 0.0025 (521 shares, 0.8 BTC), 7D: 0.00131 / 0.00221 / 0.00637 (3082 shares, 6.8 BTC), 30D: 0.00131 / 0.00311 / 0.00689 (4682 shares, 14.6 BTC) [03:04]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78997 BTC [+] [03:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5552 @ 0.0006474 = 3.5944 BTC [+] [03:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.78997 = 7.8997 BTC [+] [03:13]
thestringpuller oh wow S.MPOE plummetted again [03:14]
thestringpuller !ticker m S.MPOE [03:14]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00064063 / 0.00065874 / 0.00070715 (216398 shares, 142.55 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00067314 / 0.00071514 (1740073 shares, 1,171.32 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00069061 / 0.00077505 (8844010 shares, 6,107.81 BTC) [03:14]
thestringpuller ;;seen burnside [03:14]
gribble burnside was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: not sure what'cha mean. (286 remember.) [03:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 19 @ 0.0042 = 0.0798 BTC [-] [03:17]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [03:18]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 163.83639, Best ask: 163.89000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05361, Last trade: 163.89000, 24 hour volume: 60953.30417683, 24 hour low: 142.70000, 24 hour high: 164.90000, 24 hour vwap: 154.33445 [03:18]
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ThickAsThieves Just saw the author name on a Wordpress Plugin in one of my client's sites "Ciprian Popescu" [03:25]
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ThickAsThieves Romanians have cool first names [03:25]
ThickAsThieves or is the first name the last? [03:25]
Bowjob Ah, i didnt win anything from the rape contest. shoulda paid more attention to photoshop class lol [03:26]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 30 @ 0.78997 = 23.6991 BTC [+] [03:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009916 BTC [-] [03:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.78997 = 1.5799 BTC [+] [03:29]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 98 @ 0.01 = 0.98 BTC [+] [03:30]
Namworld Any BTC-BOND holders? [03:31]
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thestringpuller what is btc-bond? [03:32]
thestringpuller oh that [03:34]
ThickAsThieves closing it out Nam? [03:35]
Namworld Well at least partially... [03:36]
thestringpuller has it grown at all [03:36]
mjr___ lol Emma Harriet [03:36]
Namworld It went down from 0.09 BTC daily to 0.06 daily in interest, about 1/3rd already bought back [03:36]
mjr___ what a troll [03:36]
kakobrekla o looky mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170007.0 [03:37]
Namworld but with BTC price increase, that 0.06 is still 10 USD daily. [03:37]
mircea_popescu "Pachter thinks that could increase to 100 million nights "eventually"—at which point it could be generating $1 billion a year in revenues. [03:37]
mircea_popescu really business insider is the most ignorant piece of shit out there. [03:38]
mircea_popescu sorta like bitcoin magazine for fiat. [03:38]
Namworld Let's just say that the debt in USD value is already at 35k USD which I'd be quite hard pressed to be able to purchase that much in BTC. I have over half that in free BTC and much more in BTC assets however. [03:39]
Namworld Would just like to close a part of it before anything happens to my BTC investments. Better be safe than have to default if everything goes bust. [03:39]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu i used AirBNB to throw a party [03:39]
thestringpuller I made like a 1000 bucks easy [03:39]
thestringpuller lol [03:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 250 @ 0.00301846 = 0.7546 BTC [-] [03:39]
mircea_popescu heh okay. [03:40]
thestringpuller it's good for venue finding, but it's bubble-fied unfortunately [03:40]
thestringpuller like kickstarter :P [03:40]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.78997 BTC [+] [03:44]
kakobrekla ohoho! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170003.0 [03:45]
kakobrekla even has a yt vid. [03:46]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [12:42]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ [12:42]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013 [12:42]
MJR_ genie is out of the bottle [12:42]
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MJR_ you can introduce FUD and price manipulations, but the idea is solid...scared people go back to fiat and we get more btc [12:43]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [12:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 185.50001, Best ask: 186.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49999, Last trade: 186.00000, 24 hour volume: 85340.97056825, 24 hour low: 147.01000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 163.95404 [12:44]
mircea_popescu o hey [12:44]
MJR_ yeah insanity [12:44]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 2 @ 0.00101 = 0.002 BTC [-] [12:44]
MJR_ but bgupta, my point was that there are fundamentals to back this up...actual bitcoin transactions for goods is up quite a bit, and we are just getting big enough to attract real attention from big fish, this is what i think happens today and this week... [12:45]
bgupta yeah I know, but last I heard "commerce" at least on the silk road side was like 12 million per month.. how much larger is other commerce.. [12:46]
bgupta err 21 million i mean [12:46]
ThickAsThieves at this point sellers should be able to realize that selling into bids is dumb, people will obv pay any price [12:46]
bgupta guesin SR is becoming a smaller and smaller portion of market [12:47]
ThickAsThieves just wait 10min [12:47]
troc the $5M (bitpay) is not all that exciting, walletbit what are they turning over ? [12:47]
MJR_ the $5 million from bitpay is exciting to me somewhat [12:47]
ThickAsThieves SR is also higher and higher risk to use [12:47]
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MJR_ we will need services like that until bitcoin gets big enough to basically float its own supply chain [12:48]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 177 [12:48]
troc in the context of a '2 billion' market cap ? [12:48]
gribble There are currently 1773.1748 bitcoins demanded at or over 177.0 USD, worth 319289.445178 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0053 seconds [12:48]
mircea_popescu i have no idea why people still reference sr when discussing bitcoin commerce. [12:48]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 170 [12:48]
gribble There are currently 3867.5297 bitcoins demanded at or over 170.0 USD, worth 680880.802151 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.4171 seconds [12:48]
mircea_popescu seriously : it's a vanishinghly small irrelevant %. [12:48]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 190 [12:48]
gribble There are currently 3370.0377 bitcoins offered at or under 190.0 USD, worth 635943.092935 USD in total. | Data vintage: 20.7609 seconds [12:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00301 = 6.02 BTC [+] [12:48]
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punkman ;;asks 200 [12:48]
gribble There are currently 9568.7331 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1852022.32504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 38.8006 seconds [12:48]
MJR_ yes, but those numbers were not from a 2 billion dollar economy...they were from a <1 billion economy [12:48]
MJR_ does no one remember where we started march? [12:49]
MJR_ i know it moves quick... [12:49]
ThickAsThieves 40? [12:49]
mircea_popescu 25 [12:49]
bgupta mircea_popescu: actually because it is mentioned quite a bit in press.. being more informed, what is the majority of the goods and services being exchanged via btc? [12:49]
mircea_popescu anyway, the confusion between "fiat value of M3" amnd "economy" is grave. [12:49]
mircea_popescu bitcoin economy is not worth x because total aggregate btc "would be". [12:49]
mircea_popescu first off, you could never sell 11mn btc at 180 each. [12:50]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C143T] 40 @ 0.275176 = 11.007 BTC [+] [12:50]
troc ;;bids 0 [12:50]
gribble There are currently 31401663 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11542581.0758 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds [12:50]
mircea_popescu bgupta ya but seriously, the press is horrible for information. [12:50]
MJR_ yes of course [12:50]
mircea_popescu i have an old graph somewhere, want me to dig it up ? [12:50]
bgupta graph of how people are "spending" btc? [12:50]
mircea_popescu of the economic uses of btc. [12:51]
bgupta sure sounds great. [12:51]
bgupta thank you [12:51]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/ [12:51]
mircea_popescu meanwhile i would say the small things lost share and the larger things gained. [12:51]
ThickAsThieves new sexy pic! [12:51]
ThickAsThieves hehe [12:51]
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MJR_ japan makes it super easy to see what happens...yen multi-year low, nikkei up 2% [12:54]
bgupta so I guess the arguement is it can exist largely as an SoV?, as long as it's tradable into fiat, and other goods services? [12:56]
bgupta (Making sure I am taking away the correct message from post) [12:56]
bgupta That big slices are getting bigger [12:56]
bgupta and biggest slice at the time of writing was SoV? [12:56]
MJR_ well that was my biggest point about a magic money machine, i would gladly throw all of my paychecks into btc and hold them, if i could spend them freely without worrying about ACH transfer times, etc [12:57]
ThickAsThieves its gold with all of the conveniences of e-transacting [12:57]
ThickAsThieves and more [12:58]
MJR_ ThickAsThieves: ^^ THIS [12:58]
punkman why can't it just be bitcoin [12:58]
ThickAsThieves it is, dont worry [12:58]
punkman all the analogies and metaphors are slightly tiring [12:59]
ThickAsThieves then perk us up socrates [13:00]
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ThickAsThieves ;;asks 999999999 [13:04]
gribble There are currently 37404.385 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3021267941.74 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds [13:04]
mircea_popescu bgupta it sure can exist largely as sov. [13:04]
mircea_popescu that is a service. like insurance, or stripping. [13:04]
mircea_popescu punkman ya well... without words there's what ? faith ? [13:04]
mircea_popescu jurov : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/lets-dig-a-little-deeper-into-this-entire-deflation-problem/#comment-92664 [13:05]
mircea_popescu maybe you get a kick out of that. [13:05]
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ThickAsThieves there are roughly 37% less bitcoins for sale today than last week [13:05]
* mircea_popescu can't resist linking http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ to that judicious observation. [13:06]
ThickAsThieves 37% is roughly how much the price has risen i bet too [13:06]
ThickAsThieves i think we were at about 59000 coins at 140 [13:07]
punkman mircea_popescu: of course, but how many times do we have to compare something to gold and fiat and whatnot [13:07]
ThickAsThieves no more times, just for you punkman [13:07]
mircea_popescu we're roughly in the situation where we're flooded with noobs. what's to do ;/ [13:07]
punkman this is more directed to all the idiots writing about bitcoin, not ThickAsThieves [13:07]
mircea_popescu repeat history 101 and economics 101 tioll our heads fall off [13:07]
ThickAsThieves its also just us spinning our wheels [13:08]
ThickAsThieves we get excited [13:08]
ThickAsThieves and wanna gab [13:08]
ThickAsThieves plenty of conversations in here can be a real chore to witness [13:08]
ThickAsThieves still a great chan [13:08]
bgupta SO what is the difference between a violent upward correction and a bubble/ponzi? [13:09]
ThickAsThieves the bag still has value when it pops [13:09]
bgupta got it.. [13:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 500 @ 0.0028 = 1.4 BTC [-] [13:09]
mircea_popescu bgupta bitcoin retraced when ordered to. [13:10]
mircea_popescu i submit the 3-6april 4 day interval qwould have killed a ponzi. [13:10]
bgupta was trying to figure out how to transfer most of my savings into btc (as SoV).. but decided if I just wait a few years, most of my assets will be in btc if I do nothing. (Not sure if that was clear) [13:12]
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mircea_popescu it is clear. [13:13]
mircea_popescu most everybody spends fiat, saves btc, passively moving over. [13:13]
mircea_popescu this is, of course, bad money driving good money out. [13:13]
MJR_ yep [13:13]
MJR_ gresham's law [13:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7722 BTC [-] [13:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7722 BTC [-] [13:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7722 BTC [-] [13:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-] [13:14]
bgupta oh damn greshman's law is great.. never read it before. [13:14]
mircea_popescu ... [13:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.761 = 1.522 BTC [-] [13:15]
mircea_popescu are you serious ?! [13:15]
bgupta sorry, yeah [13:15]
MJR_ lol, people only reference it every day [13:15]
mircea_popescu see punkman, THIS is why. because people miss a spot shaving. it happens. it's what it is. [13:15]
MJR_ not your fault [13:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7606 BTC [-] [13:15]
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MJR_ i literally almost didn't mention it this time, because i figured everyone would be like "oh no, not gresham's law again, we all know asshole" [13:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.77 = 7.7 BTC [+] [13:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.7605 = 6.084 BTC [-] [13:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7605 = 1.521 BTC [-] [13:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7944 BTC [+] [13:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7944 = 1.5888 BTC [+] [13:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.7605 = 7.605 BTC [-] [13:16]
bgupta well many of you guys have been in channel for months if not years.. I'm realatively new.. [13:16]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: what do you think of asicminer? [13:16]
MJR_ bgupta: yeah, definitely not your fault [13:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7602 BTC [-] [13:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7601 BTC [-] [13:17]
bgupta I am an engineer by profession, not economist. [13:17]
mircea_popescu bgupta don't feel bad about it. it happens [13:17]
MJR_ hehehe, that is part of the fun of bitcoins [13:17]
mircea_popescu nobody knows what they don't know till they find out. [13:17]
MJR_ learning about the system of the world [13:17]
MJR_ exactly [13:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.761 = 3.805 BTC [+] [13:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.76 = 4.56 BTC [-] [13:17]
mircea_popescu MJR_ i think both ways. [13:17]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: i'm working on a blog... plan on juxtaposing the tower of babel with bitcoin...money as speech etc [13:18]
mircea_popescu the main concern is they made a really shitty set of chips which keep blowing up under load, after 100 hours or w/e, and are currently halfway through batch two because of this. [13:18]
punkman I know just enough to know I don't know shit [13:18]
mircea_popescu otherwise, they have a solid business model. [13:18]
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bgupta I've heard of some of the example's like metal content exceeding face value and no matter what gov't laws go into place they will get scrapped. [13:18]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: yeah, i like the business model, i'm working on an fpga design that should be more efficient, and can then do an avalon style chip maybe...as far as i have seen, the designs work, but that doesn't mean they are nearly on the level they could be [13:19]
mircea_popescu more competition in mining is great. [13:19]
mircea_popescu at the current price there;'s a fat paycheck to be eaten there. [13:20]
BitHub wth [13:20]
mircea_popescu (which is what i meant earlier. sov AND MINING grew lots) [13:20]
BitHub apparently bfl delivered to someone in australia? [13:20]
mircea_popescu orly ? [13:20]
MJR_ yes, true, and there will be another wave of hardware that makes current asics look like old fpga's... [13:20]
BitHub i was just talking to some guy on the phone [13:20]
BitHub that cant be right [13:20]
MJR_ hmmm...did this one have fans? [13:20]
BitHub apparently pre ordered 2 months ago [13:21]
MJR_ brb [13:21]
BitHub bastard [13:21]
mircea_popescu ya srslty. fans or no fans ? [13:21]
BitHub i dont know [13:21]
mircea_popescu ask [13:21]
BitHub i wasn't talking to him directly, my friend was talking to him for me heh [13:21]
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BitHub hes off to bed but they're calling me tomorrow night [13:22]
BitHub i cant believe it [13:22]
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ThickAsThieves mining litecoin is still more profitable then btc [13:23]
ThickAsThieves than* [13:23]
mircea_popescu i'm not really believing it either. [13:23]
punkman LTC is interesting, but it just took off on the back of BTC now [13:24]
punkman I like that a new altcoin is popping up every other week now [13:25]
mircea_popescu it will make the ltc bubble burst a lot more digestible. [13:26]
BitHub sorry i know i usually troll but im very serious about this one [13:26]
BitHub trying to get him to ask the guy to take a picture and send it [13:26]
BitHub it was just a random phone call 30mins ago [13:26]
punkman http://rlv.zcache.com/i_love_vaporware_mesh_hats-ra52a04ca77754b67a848ac0e607cb30d_v9wfy_8byvr_512.jpg [13:26]
BitHub cause my friend knows i'm into bitcoin and that [13:27]
mircea_popescu just got a fresh hyacinth. [13:27]
mircea_popescu it smells good :D [13:27]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [13:30]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.37700, Best ask: 182.70000, Bid-ask spread: 2.32300, Last trade: 180.00001, 24 hour volume: 85165.12407777, 24 hour low: 147.62000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 164.94921 [13:30]
MJR_ is hyacith the same as honeysuckle? [13:31]
MJR_ guess it's not, i love those scents though [13:33]
mircea_popescu a no [13:34]
MJR_ those two and gardenia [13:34]
mircea_popescu honeysuckle is a bush, hyacinth is a bulb, early srping [13:34]
EmDes that cap punkman :PP [13:35]
MJR_ yes, true [13:35]
MJR_ cherry blossoms will be blooming soon...its one of my favorite times to enjoy nature [13:35]
MJR_ ;;seen smickles [13:38]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 18 hours, 56 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm [13:38]
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deadweasel ;;ticker [13:49]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.04000, Best ask: 182.45899, Bid-ask spread: 0.41899, Last trade: 182.04000, 24 hour volume: 88143.75258705, 24 hour low: 148.01000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 165.56880 [13:49]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-GOLD] 1 @ 0.01 BTC [+] [13:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14110 @ 0.00065788 = 9.2827 BTC [+] [14:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00065871 = 0.8563 BTC [+] [14:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 640 @ 0.00065872 = 0.4216 BTC [+] [14:03]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/376/bfl-will-stop-giving-refunds-on-bitforce-sc/ [14:12]
mircea_popescu this is interesting. 500:1 implicit odds that bfl stops refunds. [14:12]
ThickAsThieves i'm surprised people arent accusing BFL of mining with theri chips instead of shipping [14:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 700 @ 0.00065356 = 0.4575 BTC [-] [14:15]
mircea_popescu i guerss that clearly shows how much faith in the bfl chip there is. [14:16]
ThickAsThieves they must be mining by now [14:17]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [14:18]
gribble 61113.2878525 [14:18]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [14:18]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 8931575.85222 based on data since last change | 8537297.41708 based on data for last three days [14:18]
ThickAsThieves at least 1 or 2 of Avalon/BFL/AM are mining on the side [14:19]
ThickAsThieves probly all 3 [14:20]
ThickAsThieves incentive is just too high [14:20]
ThickAsThieves even one unit is oodles of money [14:21]
punkman you mean AM mining without paying dividends? [14:21]
ThickAsThieves yes [14:21]
punkman right, would make sense [14:21]
ThickAsThieves and Avalon not shipping their unit til after they mine with them a few weeks [14:21]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves there was a dispute a few weeks ago about that [14:22]
ThickAsThieves and BFL not shipping at all til diff gets high enough for it to tip profit scale [14:22]
mircea_popescu people were incensed at my suggestion that users reporting dusted units delivered = premining with them [14:22]
ThickAsThieves it just makes sense [14:22]
ThickAsThieves none of the 3 have anyone to answer to, except maybe BFL [14:23]
ThickAsThieves someone needs to run a spy op on them [14:24]
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jurov mircea_popescu you fag hater, hi :) [14:29]
jurov and deposits pls [14:29]
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jurov lol my ex-boss insists on shorting bitcoins [14:29]
jurov he was introduced to them just some month ago. but he knows for sure this is a bubble [14:29]
BitHub homofag [14:29]
BitHub i keep hearing bubble [14:29]
BitHub but no pop [14:29]
Diablo-D3 jurov: you cant short them though [14:29]
Diablo-D3 jurov: you can only sell the ones you have [14:29]
ThickAsThieves could buy puts [14:30]
mircea_popescu jurov i am sorry we don't process fairy bitcoins today [14:30]
jurov but he wanted somehow to do it without buying them at all [14:30]
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ThickAsThieves tell him, hold fiat, thats how [14:30]
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Diablo-D3 basically what ThickAsThieves said [14:30]
gesell ThickAsThieves: lol [14:30]
jurov but i'd really love to screw him [14:31]
Diablo-D3 wait until the bubble pops and then buy in [14:31]
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Diablo-D3 jurov: no, I think hes right [14:31]
Diablo-D3 this is a bubble [14:31]
gesell jurov: support him. get him worked up about it. tell him "go for it! yeeeeah" [14:31]
gesell bring him a pitch fork [14:31]
Diablo-D3 the bobble needs to pop before we can build a new stable floor [14:31]
jurov but he asked how. or is there a fool who wants to lend him btc? [14:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 5 @ 1.93 = 9.65 BTC [+] [14:32]
mircea_popescu but no pop << that's because it's not a cherry. [14:32]
mircea_popescu jurov so let him buy puts/sell calls. [14:32]
gesell it will end with him and bernanke eating a gallon tub of icecream watching cnbc together to cover their tears [14:32]
Diablo-D3 jurov: well, he could take a bet up with mp [14:32]
ThickAsThieves jurov if you are so sure he's cray, sell him puts in fiat [14:32]
jurov yea, i think he'll end up as coinbr customer [14:32]
Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: I wouldnt [14:32]
Diablo-D3 the guy is jurov's boss [14:32]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/330/mtgox-bitcoin-usd-exchange-rate-200-before/ << he can bet NO there. [14:32]
Diablo-D3 we need a third party [14:32]
jurov he's ex-boss. no power anymore [14:33]
jurov and i think the bubble is industrial strength so far. unpoppable. [14:33]
BitHub hehe [14:33]
jurov may just deflate a bit [14:33]
BitHub nice mircea [14:33]
BitHub miss you btw [14:33]
mircea_popescu miss me ?! [14:34]
ThickAsThieves ;;market --sell 100000 [14:34]
BitHub of course [14:34]
gribble A market order to sell 100000 bitcoins right now would net 9540076.0121 USD and would take the last price down to 35.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 95.4008 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 58.8457 seconds [14:34]
BitHub miss teh lulz [14:34]
mircea_popescu i'm practically always here [14:34]
BitHub shhh, dont ruin the moment [14:34]
mircea_popescu btwm, anyone here won anything from raping that adria chick ? [14:34]
ThickAsThieves the worst thing about mp (and jurov, ukto, burnside, topace) is that they sleep [14:35]
ThickAsThieves so lame [14:35]
ThickAsThieves :) [14:35]
BitHub 2 hours is all you need [14:35]
jurov well, if you know some azn i can entrust deposits to... [14:35]
BitHub and while you sleep you should have someone watching you sleep ready to wake you up for an emergency [14:35]
jurov better wait these few hours. [14:35]
BitHub asian? [14:36]
jurov yes, asian. to be available while i sleep [14:36]
BitHub which part of asia? [14:36]
ThickAsThieves he wasnt serious [14:36]
BitHub mmk [14:36]
jurov should i troll you "i like thai boys"? [14:36]
BitHub yuck [14:37]
BitHub why would you do that when there's vaginas? [14:37]
jurov vags smell [14:37]
BitHub true [14:37]
mircea_popescu here's a simple explanation of the bitcoin/fiat relationship : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136542105834.jpg [14:37]
BitHub ass to mouth kind of relationship? [14:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 660 @ 0.00065872 = 0.4348 BTC [+] [14:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2534 @ 0.00065873 = 1.6692 BTC [+] [14:38]
jurov coinbr deposits credited. [14:39]
mircea_popescu more like spanking [14:40]
BitHub oh [14:41]
BitHub i have a good one mircea id like to do [14:42]
BitHub its basicually a bunch of dinosaurs standing around looking at this huge big thing hurdling towards earth that's about to wipe them out, but instead a astroid its a very big bitcoin [14:43]
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jurov pathetic [14:44]
Scrat BitHub: im gonna steal your idea thanks [14:44]
BitHub no worries [14:45]
mircea_popescu yea kinda too direct and unedgy for my style. [14:45]
mircea_popescu i like getting people to where they start stammering about how i'm a homophobe nigger hatin' rapist or something [14:46]
troc or a swine flue virus in the shape of bitcoin eating all the bankers/marketdroids [14:46]
BitHub really mircea? [14:47]
BitHub i like how people completely forget who i am in about 1 year [14:47]
BitHub lay low [14:48]
BitHub when most of the people are now old and sick and dying and thinking about their life, wont be a trace of me in it [14:48]
jurov O_o [14:49]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128215357439.jpg [14:49]
mircea_popescu actually someboduy should prolly chop a btc in there. [14:49]
jurov isn't that nike shoes ad? [14:49]
BitHub lul wth [14:50]
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mircea_popescu lol [14:50]
BitHub so many things to say about that pic heh [14:50]
jurov like, wanna get a sprinter kid? wear 'em [14:50]
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mircea_popescu during [14:50]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170305.0 [14:50]
BitHub why isn't she wearing timberland boots? [14:51]
mircea_popescu for the flulz. [14:51]
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mircea_popescu ok, i got another. this one is about the power of education by example : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134618245439.jpg [14:51]
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MJR_ lol [14:52]
BitHub shit, that's someones daughter yo [14:52]
MJR_ the problem with bubble predictors is that even if they are right, the market can remain irrational a lot longer than they can remain solvent [14:52]
BitHub mircea that guy looks more cock hungry than her [14:53]
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mircea_popescu BitHub hence my comment. [14:54]
BitHub haha [14:55]
BitHub more lulz plz [14:55]
ThickAsThieves uh oh, fat washed up comedians are pimping bitcoin now [14:56]
ThickAsThieves http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2013/04/drew-carey-and-roseanne-barr-are.html [14:56]
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mircea_popescu BitHub here's a funny one with niggers http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136097321137.jpg [14:58]
BitHub hah thieves [14:59]
ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/7/4194142/torment-tides-numenera-kickstarter-video-game-record-rpg <- Someone needs to get these game companies kickstarting in btc instead, Bitfunder would be a good fit [14:59]
MJR_ lol [14:59]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124391.msg1353059#msg1353059 [14:59]
mircea_popescu bweahaha [14:59]
mircea_popescu god she's too good [14:59]
MJR_ http://www.paddypower.com/bet/novelty-betting/current-affairs/bitcoin-betting [14:59]
ThickAsThieves lol [14:59]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [15:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.90000, Best ask: 183.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 183.00000, 24 hour volume: 84257.09650220, 24 hour low: 151.44000, 24 hour high: 186.50000, 24 hour vwap: 167.63669 [15:01]
MJR_ they got pissed cuz they lose too much money betting against bitcoin [15:01]
BitHub LULz [15:01]
BitHub wtf [15:01]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 5,456 * 183 [15:01]
gribble Error: Something in there wasn't a valid number. [15:01]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 5456 * 183 [15:01]
gribble 998448 [15:01]
BitHub hehe its like he doesn't want to be there or something [15:01]
mircea_popescu ha! BitBet just about to go into 1mn total bets [15:01]
BitHub bitcoin made it on australian news tonight [15:01]
BitHub http://youtu.be/mgZhJBKvvTE [15:01]
MJR_ nice [15:01]
ThickAsThieves might actually pass sdice this year if evoorhees doesnt get crackalackin [15:02]
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MJR_ i heard asicminer passed sdice [15:03]
mircea_popescu !ticker btct asicminer-pt [15:04]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.751 / 0.7817 / 0.795 (180 shares, 140.7 BTC), 7D: 0.683004 / 0.75853 / 0.795 (1507 shares, 1143.1 BTC), 30D: 0.59998 / 0.77718 / 0.973 (7755 shares, 6027.1 BTC) [15:04]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.dice [15:04]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.0028 / 0.00293838 / 0.00301847 (6753 shares, 19.84 BTC), 7D: 0.00276111 / 0.00318903 / 0.00400173 (534925 shares, 1,705.89 BTC), 30D: 0.00276111 / 0.00364232 / 0.006 (1637072 shares, 5,962.74 BTC) [15:04]
mircea_popescu ;;calc .78 * 4 / 10 [15:04]
gribble 0.312 [15:04]
mircea_popescu just about. [15:04]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe [15:05]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00063322 / 0.0006534 / 0.00066633 (319604 shares, 208.83 BTC), 7D: 0.00059218 / 0.00067536 / 0.00071514 (1795331 shares, 1,212.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00059218 / 0.00068994 / 0.00077505 (9004112 shares, 6,212.38 BTC) [15:05]
mircea_popescu in other news, s.dice + asicminer < s.mpoe [15:05]
mircea_popescu this is getting scandalous. [15:05]
ThickAsThieves now that erik is actually moved out of the US, I figure after a few weeks of loose women and mai tais, he'll have some developments for sdice [15:07]
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error4733 good ! because fiat value is now close to 40M$ [15:07]
MJR_ ThickAsThieves: that was my same theory [15:08]
MJR_ ThickAsThieves: which is why i've held and think its a steal at its current price [15:08]
ThickAsThieves i actually sold some AM to get these cheape sdice [15:08]
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error4733 yes, go first ! my bad, value S.dice is more than 52M$ [15:09]
ThickAsThieves we need more buyers in btc nvesting market [15:10]
ThickAsThieves exchanges do so little outreach [15:10]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that's a market opportunity for anyone with some entrepreneurial blood. [15:11]
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error4733 IPO set the price @3M$, tell me what in 3 month has change the "real" value of S.dcie [15:11]
XRPTrader2 xrp for sale at https://xrptrader.com [15:12]
ThickAsThieves spam detected [15:12]
thestringpuller ThickAsThieves: S.DICE is supposed to be a bot no? [15:12]
thestringpuller like the lottery no? [15:12]
mircea_popescu error4733 the fact that its space went from nothing to the talk of the town. [15:12]
mircea_popescu if i started a bar on manhattan which was just this island spending 3 mn [15:13]
mircea_popescu and in 3 months manhattan became today's manhattan [15:13]
mircea_popescu would youy think my bar is worth 3mn ? [15:13]
mircea_popescu i mean, it's the same bar. not in the same space anymore. [15:13]
ThickAsThieves its easy to see high value in sdice as a company [15:13]
ThickAsThieves but its just as easy to see squandered opportunity [15:14]
mircea_popescu personally i see a little more squandered oportunity in asicminer, but yeah [15:14]
ThickAsThieves same could be argued for bitbet [15:14]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: ASICMINER will be surpassed by another mining company when as you said, "The real people arrive in bitcoin land" [15:15]
thestringpuller the shuttle has not landed yet unfortunately. [15:15]
ChaangNoi did gox have lag for like 20 mins? [15:16]
ThickAsThieves :/ [15:16]
unbalanced_ Latest I've heard on Gox queue: [15:16]
unbalanced_ My new waiting list position is now 15,280 (when I submitted 10 days ago, queue started at 6000). [15:16]
mircea_popescu ChaangNoi http://jezus.si/graf/dashboards/bitcoin/details/lag/ [15:16]
mircea_popescu unbalanced_ im not sure how far i'd trust those numbers. [15:16]
ThickAsThieves especially if they simply arent processing any at all [15:17]
unbalanced_ Ah, like BFL order numbers? [15:17]
ThickAsThieves they could just be slower than usual [15:17]
mircea_popescu unbalanced_ perhaps. [15:18]
ThickAsThieves 187 [15:22]
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ChaangNoi on a mother fucking cop? [15:22]
ThickAsThieves on a motherfucking coin [15:22]
ChaangNoi :) [15:23]
ChaangNoi thanks mp [15:23]
ChaangNoi 15k waiting, nice [15:23]
mircea_popescu vags smell << my cock smells too. the odd part is teh girls love the scent. [15:23]
ChaangNoi $300 here we come [15:23]
jurov yea they love vanilla [15:24]
kakobrekla morning [15:24]
kakobrekla what did i miss [15:24]
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unbalanced_ guess what BTC is up [15:24]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla inaba came out of closet [15:24]
kakobrekla did he? [15:25]
ThickAsThieves i sold a bioshock infite / crysis 3 game code to him for 1 btc [15:25]
ThickAsThieves :) [15:25]
BitHub that sounds too manly [15:26]
ChaangNoi 186$ for the games, lol [15:28]
punkman "Our user count has increased from 7 to 15 and one of our users (a native Japanese speaker) has volunteered to help edit the Japanese dictionary." haha [15:28]
jurov ThickAsThieves, did you pack in a mining trojan? [15:29]
ThickAsThieves twas merely a game code [15:29]
ThickAsThieves alas [15:29]
ThickAsThieves i have 7 more [15:29]
ThickAsThieves if anyone planned on buying either game [15:29]
jurov tey prolly got trojaned by chinese anyway... that's why they draw so much [15:30]
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ThickAsThieves do we know anyone in BFL's state? [15:30]
ThickAsThieves we need a covert op [15:30]
ThickAsThieves cam in the purse kinda thing [15:30]
punkman there are private investigators everywhere [15:30]
ChaangNoi im from the town bfl is operating in [15:31]
ThickAsThieves i suppose they wouldnt need to actually mine AT their office [15:31]
ThickAsThieves someone that ordered mini rigs should hire a PI [15:33]
ThickAsThieves 188.78 [15:33]
MJR_ i don't carry a purse.... [15:33]
BitHub ThickAsThieves [15:33]
BitHub i recieved the strangest phone call tonight [15:33]
ThickAsThieves it wasnt me [15:34]
BitHub about a bfl operating in australia [15:34]
ThickAsThieves go visit it [15:34]
BitHub i'm waiting for pics via sms [15:34]
BitHub my friend went out to the middle of nowhere to start this job and ran into a guy that's a "bitcoin miner" [15:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.01 = 0.02 BTC [+] [15:34]
ThickAsThieves is the case for the new ones the same as the fpga? [15:34]
BitHub i need to get 100% confirmation [15:35]
BitHub i've asked my mate to send me pics [15:35]
BitHub i cant believe it like how the fuck did this guy get a bfl? [15:35]
BitHub 2 x 120gh apparently, ordered 2 months ago [15:36]
ChaangNoi ;;asks 200 [15:36]
gribble There are currently 10021.06 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1951263.57221 USD in total. | Data vintage: 87.7052 seconds [15:36]
BitHub 2 x 60 i mean [15:36]
ThickAsThieves 189.80 [15:37]
ChaangNoi i kinda doubt that [15:37]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999 [15:37]
gribble There are currently 37525.179 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 419998515.287 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0072 seconds [15:37]
ChaangNoi 189.8 [15:37]
ChaangNoi yeah crazy [15:38]
ThickAsThieves 190 [15:38]
ChaangNoi usa is waking up [15:38]
ThickAsThieves insanity [15:38]
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ChaangNoi this is madness BIIIITTTCOOOOIN!!!! [15:38]
ThickAsThieves the price is looking like its correlated to the amount of coins available for sale. [15:39]
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ThickAsThieves value is up 35% from 140, coins available is down 35% [15:39]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [15:40]
gribble There are currently 31449915 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11449403.9086 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.0387 seconds [15:40]
Namworld 190 USD per BTC O.o [15:40]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 4 @ 0.24413205 = 0.9765 BTC [+] [15:40]
ChaangNoi bids are level [15:40]
ThickAsThieves i told myself i wouldnt buy any more calls til vwap hits 200 [15:40]
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Namworld the premium on options are so high I just can't go around to buying some [15:42]
Namworld I should have bought calls when price was around 120 tho... [15:42]
ThickAsThieves $avg [15:43]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 168.22 [15:43]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 278 @ 0.12503255 = 34.759 BTC [+] [15:44]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [15:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 187.99000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 2.01000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 86134.18904333, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 169.50989 [15:44]
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mircea_popescu i go to eat and not even 190 yet ? [15:44]
mircea_popescu what is this [15:44]
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Namworld It's slow right? Not raising 10% every 15 minutes [15:44]
mircea_popescu outrage. [15:46]
Namworld It's doubling every 1-2 weeks... [15:46]
ThickAsThieves my wife was talking about investing in this new restaurant, they want $3000, 36month, 8%APR [15:46]
mircea_popescu I should have bought calls when price was around 120 tho... << but you thought premium too high right ? [15:46]
ThickAsThieves i said fuck that i can make 8% in a day [15:46]
Namworld yeah... then the price kept raising [15:47]
mircea_popescu heh. [15:47]
Namworld seriously... I lost a ton to shorting [15:47]
ThickAsThieves Nam, guess what [15:47]
mircea_popescu fate of the mpoe bot. everyone thinks premiums are too high, tellingly nobody goes in the midmarket. [15:47]
Namworld Back in 20-40 USD/BTC [15:47]
ThickAsThieves it might continue rising [15:47]
Namworld Then I bought calls last month... got the BTC back [15:47]
deadweasel i'm happy about my 188s now :D [15:47]
ChaangNo_ fucking gox lag [15:47]
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Namworld Guess I should have done the same this month [15:47]
ChaangNo_ ;;;;ticker [15:48]
gribble Error: ";;ticker" is not a valid command. [15:48]
ChaangNo_ ;;ticker [15:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.00000, Best ask: 190.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 86134.18904333, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 169.50989 [15:48]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [15:48]
gribble MtGox lag is 75.52478 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.151350813502 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU). [15:48]
ThickAsThieves oh Gox, you gox me [15:48]
Namworld Someone should kill Gox... [15:49]
deadweasel we're trying [15:49]
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Namworld Using gox... I mean, what is more lethal than gox? [15:49]
Namworld It's so slow you can die old waiting [15:49]
deadweasel tigers [15:49]
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Namworld Make the staff have to make a transaction and wait for it to complete to return to work. [15:50]
Namworld Gox will fade out after some time. [15:50]
MJR_ yeah, so far you can buy at bots market price, it usually works out [15:50]
MJR_ Namworld: you are buying back bonds? [15:50]
Namworld yeah [15:50]
MJR_ can i be last lol [15:50]
Namworld If you want... I'm buying a part of it back. [15:51]
Namworld If you don't want to have them bought back, don't offer [15:51]
DeaDTerra Join us tonight in a Starcraft 2 Bitcoin prize pool sit and go tournament :) http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1bwu7r/eu_starting_5_hours_from_now_the_gauntlet_come/ [15:51]
MJR_ yeah, i am waiting [15:51]
MJR_ twas my favorite bond [15:51]
MJR_ guess i'll dump into asicminer [15:51]
Namworld I'll start with volunteers and if I'm missing some I'll do a forced buyback. [15:51]
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Namworld actually I don't think I can do a partial forced buyback... anyway [15:52]
ThickAsThieves make two accounts [15:52]
ThickAsThieves buy at market [15:52]
Diablo-D3 DeaDTerra: heh, too bad most people dont own starcraft 2 [15:53]
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Namworld I do... but I wouldn't play tournaments... [15:53]
ThickAsThieves no time for games [15:53]
Namworld I hardly have time here too [15:53]
DeaDTerra Well I think gamers and Bitcoin interest should coincide pretty well :) [15:53]
DeaDTerra It's just a sit and go, you jump in and play whenever you want and can leave anytime. [15:54]
Namworld I also have a hard time with RTS, but no problem with turn-based [15:54]
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DeaDTerra If you win your group you are awarded some BTC, if not you can just play again with an ew group [15:54]
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Namworld I can't keep up with fast multi-tasking [15:54]
Diablo-D3 DeaDTerra: I think gamers should honestly quit. [15:56]
Diablo-D3 Believe in Satoshi [15:56]
Diablo-D3 Do something important with their lives instead of wasting time [15:56]
Namworld Become monks in the temple of Satoshi? [15:56]
Namworld Games are not a waste of time more than any other leisure activity... It's just entertainment. [15:57]
Diablo-D3 No, become the body of Satoshi so that he may work through you. [15:57]
ChaangNo_ ;;200 [15:57]
gribble Error: "200" is not a valid command. [15:57]
ChaangNo_ ;;goxlag [15:57]
gribble MtGox lag is 0.019954 seconds. During this time, light travels 3.99875925839e-05 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU). [15:57]
ChaangNo_ ;;asks 200 [15:57]
gribble There are currently 8269.9158 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1620932.97386 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds [15:57]
Diablo-D3 Namworld: one does not NEED entertainment [15:57]
ChaangNo_ ;; asks 199.99 [15:57]
gribble There are currently 6712.3312 bitcoins offered at or under 199.99 USD, worth 1309416.70044 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.7117 seconds [15:57]
Diablo-D3 We are only on Earth for a short time, why waste it doing dumb shit? [15:57]
gesell gaming is rather useful [15:58]
gesell flexes problem solving skills, creates a culture demanding achievments [15:58]
punkman not all games are equal [15:59]
gesell if translated back (those skills) in a minor way to the real world this has some social impact [15:59]
deadweasel so do productive tasks [15:59]
Diablo-D3 gesell: starcraft 2 is not one of those games. [15:59]
ThickAsThieves after a while, games are just timesucks [15:59]
gesell the world is a thousand times better than people spend their time in WoW or SC2. every person playing games is one less watching tv. Games are not the most productive but at least they are paticipatory [16:00]
gesell s/than/with [16:00]
deadweasel better than tv, yes. that is not saying much. [16:00]
Diablo-D3 gesell: they are not productive at all [16:00]
gesell says a lot actually [16:00]
Diablo-D3 Games are a prison. [16:00]
Diablo-D3 So is TV, so are movies, [16:00]
ThickAsThieves bitcoin is a prison [16:00]
gesell entertainment is a prison [16:01]
gesell the type of entertainment is different [16:01]
DeaDTerra Gaming is a hobby, it's a entertainment but can also be a way to improve multitasking, micro management and coordination. [16:01]
deadweasel tv is makes you dumb and full of shit. games are interactively brain sucks.. :) [16:01]
Diablo-D3 Did you know more "food" is grown in Farmville than in real life? [16:01]
DeaDTerra It's only a prison if you let it catch you [16:01]
ThickAsThieves tv isnt ALL bad [16:01]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 ahaha good one. [16:01]
ThickAsThieves geez [16:01]
deadweasel sorta like this room, only i learn stuff here. [16:01]
gesell Diablo-D3: lol [16:01]
punkman I think TV helps me understand other people a lot [16:01]
Diablo-D3 DeaDTerra: humans suck at multitasking [16:02]
deadweasel no it doesn't [16:02]
Diablo-D3 it should just not be performed at all [16:02]
Diablo-D3 just focus on the task at hand until its done [16:02]
deadweasel tv helps you understand bullshit drama. [16:02]
deadweasel its not real... [16:02]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13654259702.png here's a fresh one. [16:02]
deadweasel makes you crazy and bel;ieve crazy things [16:02]
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mircea_popescu meanwhile in gaza strip : Police in Hamas-ruled Gaza have started grabbing young men with long or gel-styled spiky hair off the streets, bundling them into jeeps, mocking them and shaving their heads. [16:03]
ThickAsThieves it can be argued there is no such thing as multitasking [16:03]
mircea_popescu i can tiotally see why the libertards are supporting palestine against israel. [16:04]
ThickAsThieves youre mostly just ignoring a lot of things at once [16:04]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: supporting either is against Satoshi, really. [16:04]
gesell http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world.html [16:04]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 myeah. [16:04]
Diablo-D3 gesell: Ive already seen it, I dont subscribe to that belief [16:05]
Diablo-D3 its just a bizarre subset of "practice makes perfect" [16:05]
Diablo-D3 I don't know why more people don't free themselves from their prisons. [16:06]
punkman why would they? [16:07]
Diablo-D3 Let Satoshi work through you, the Savior, Lord, and King of Humanity. [16:07]
deadweasel Diablo-D3: time for #bitcoin-church [16:08]
punkman http://kopimism.me/ [16:08]
mircea_popescu who's punkman anyway ? [16:08]
gesell Diablo-D3: so i agree with you then. i just would say that yes changing the addiction to gaming would be an improvment but the addiction to gaming is already an improvement from prior forms of entertainment [16:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00276111 = 1.6567 BTC [-] [16:09]
Diablo-D3 gesell: yes, but we'd be better off to just ending all addicitons [16:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 125 @ 0.00276101 = 0.3451 BTC [-] [16:10]
gesell I dont know where you live but I'd be happier to see people spend less time addicted to entertainment sports on TV than gaming [16:10]
gesell nah, addictions will always exist [16:10]
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mircea_popescu addiction fundamentally works on the pathways that allow you to fall in love. [16:10]
deadweasel gesell, yes, you're right they always exist [16:10]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yes, but if you love Satoshi, then that is all the pathway massaging you need. [16:11]
deadweasel right now it's btc information. but i learn here. [16:11]
mircea_popescu who are you to say what massaging i need ? [16:11]
punkman "most of the really pleasant things in life are worth endlessly repeating." [16:11]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: then you are not a follower of Satoshi [16:11]
mircea_popescu punkman srsly, do we know you under a previous incarnation ? [16:11]
punkman mircea_popescu: doubtful [16:11]
mircea_popescu a ok. do you run any service or anything ? [16:12]
punkman various things in the works, not yet [16:12]
mircea_popescu aite. [16:12]
punkman I'm here to learn [16:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065873 = 1.9762 BTC [+] [16:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 120 @ 0.009933 = 1.192 BTC [-] [16:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00065356 = 1.9607 BTC [-] [16:29]
thestringpuller good to hear punkman [16:29]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999 [16:30]
gribble There are currently 38628.507 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420248240.474 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds [16:30]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [16:30]
gribble There are currently 31440065 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11260061.3773 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.8361 seconds [16:30]
ThickAsThieves so if coins avail affects price, along with bid dollar total, we should see a little plateau or dip right now [16:31]
thestringpuller am I seeing that correctly? [16:32]
thestringpuller 34 million? [16:32]
ThickAsThieves ? [16:32]
thestringpuller 31 million* [16:33]
thestringpuller 31 million coins are demanded [16:33]
ThickAsThieves meaningless number imo [16:33]
mircea_popescu yeah. [16:33]
ChaangNoi yeah but 21 million of them are my asks at .00001 [16:33]
ThickAsThieves ^ [16:33]
jurov ;;bids 1 [16:34]
gribble There are currently 317488.65 bitcoins demanded at or over 1.0 USD, worth 11240718.5782 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.9340 seconds [16:34]
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thestringpuller there we gp [16:34]
thestringpuller there we go lol [16:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-] [16:34]
ThickAsThieves still meaningless [16:34]
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ThickAsThieves dollars matters more [16:35]
jurov a bit less meaningless [16:35]
jurov ;;bids 5 [16:35]
gribble There are currently 201529.11 bitcoins demanded at or over 5.0 USD, worth 11005649.7257 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0124 seconds [16:35]
thestringpuller ;;vol [16:35]
gribble Error: "vol" is not a valid command. [16:35]
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mircea_popescu Guest31437 are you the forum wealth advisor guy ? [16:35]
thestringpuller ;;volume [16:35]
gribble Error: "volume" is not a valid command. [16:35]
thestringpuller it there a way to see volume? [16:35]
jurov ;;depth [16:35]
gribble Error: "depth" is not a valid command. [16:35]
jurov dunno [16:35]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [16:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.50004, Best ask: 188.90000, Bid-ask spread: 0.39996, Last trade: 188.50004, 24 hour volume: 88117.25656920, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 170.38540 [16:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 39 @ 0.12811778 = 4.9966 BTC [+] [16:35]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 9999999 [16:36]
gribble There are currently 38550.022 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 196430772.993 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.0385 seconds [16:36]
Guest31437 mircea - yes. MPOE let me know about this resource, figured I'd check it out. [16:36]
thestringpuller mpoe users are being very cautious... [16:36]
thestringpuller perhaps the BCB has lost control of the price [16:36]
mircea_popescu Guest31437 hehe okay. [16:36]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller jus' fer you, fresh from the user contributed pits : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/13654259702.png [16:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C155T] 10 @ 0.24917244 = 2.4917 BTC [+] [16:42]
kakobrekla lol [16:43]
kakobrekla say something bad about devs so we get more cheap coins , quikcly [16:43]
splnkr devz sux [16:44]
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kakobrekla these beans are shit. [16:44]
kakobrekla i mean, these devs are shit. [16:44]
splnkr unless they're magic devs, in which case you can use them to make a devstalk [16:44]
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ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999 [16:45]
gribble There are currently 38837.418 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420348159.519 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds [16:45]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [16:45]
gribble There are currently 31438380 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11294377.3662 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.7703 seconds [16:45]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla aww why haet. [16:45]
splnkr if you're lucky, this devstalk will lead to untold riches; but there's a good chance there's also an angry giant up there waiting to crush you [16:45]
splnkr sounds basically like bitcoin, right? =P [16:45]
kakobrekla cause devs suck at life i herd [16:46]
kakobrekla hehe [16:46]
mircea_popescu hehehe [16:46]
mircea_popescu actually, i think you'll like the bitcoin/fiat relationship one [16:46]
mircea_popescu where was it [16:46]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136542105834.jpg [16:46]
kakobrekla :D [16:46]
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thestringpuller what is that supposed to mean popescu "A ponzi could not have survived april 3 through 7th" [16:50]
mircea_popescu well... trend trading tends to go bust when the trend leaves. [16:50]
ThickAsThieves my prediction of a plateau is holding true so far [16:51]
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thestringpuller plateau hasn't arrived yet [16:52]
thestringpuller maybe 200 a coin? [16:52]
ThickAsThieves i mean short term [16:52]
ThickAsThieves i'm looking at correlation of bitcoins available to bitcoin value [16:52]
ThickAsThieves along with bids dollars up [16:52]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [16:52]
gribble There are currently 31438713 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11320552.5806 USD in total. | Data vintage: 106.2635 seconds [16:52]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999 [16:53]
gribble There are currently 39373.803 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420456772.352 USD in total. | Data vintage: 114.6406 seconds [16:53]
Namworld I know plenty of people (including myself) are just holding to BTC, which reduce available BTC [16:53]
Namworld actually not true... I've been selling a bit [16:53]
deadweasel 14,000 in gox queue [16:53]
ThickAsThieves price should continue to hold [16:53]
ThickAsThieves til coins available comes down, or bid dollar total goes up [16:53]
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Namworld But also tons of news about BTC and rising prices... [16:54]
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Namworld I guess it's just attracting lots of capital [16:54]
mircea_popescu this one special for asciilifeform http://m.ibtimes.co.uk/italy-robbery-a9-van-heist-454638.html [16:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [+] [16:56]
jcpham $1000 correction [16:56]
jcpham needs moar digit [16:56]
mircea_popescu fuck you omg [16:56]
mircea_popescu if i end up having to change mpsics each month ;( [16:57]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C161T] 12 @ 0.22895486 = 2.7475 BTC [16:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 3 @ 0.000649 = 0.0019 BTC [+] [16:58]
MJR_ its not too standard, but it is plenty codey [16:58]
MJR_ so it all evens out... [16:58]
MJR_ :) [16:59]
Namworld we're already almost at 200... [16:59]
MJR_ yeah [16:59]
Namworld options will need changing... [16:59]
MJR_ maybe the price goes wherever he sets the highest option [16:59]
Namworld then again and again... and then maybe backward... [16:59]
bit_nutz anyone know if price to join mpex is still 30 btc? seems ridiculously high [16:59]
MJR_ LOL [16:59]
mircea_popescu bit_nutz yes, it is. [16:59]
MJR_ still 30 btc [16:59]
Namworld yes, still 30 BTC [16:59]
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ThickAsThieves if you make opts up to 400, will you then go to $5 increments? [17:00]
MJR_ go to coinbr...thats prob what you are looking for [17:00]
ThickAsThieves or such [17:00]
Namworld So like over 5k USD to join [17:00]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves probably. [17:00]
bit_nutz thanks MP. any plan to bring that down? [17:00]
mircea_popescu bit_nutz no, it is onl;y going up. [17:00]
MJR_ hehehe [17:00]
Namworld It's never going to go down... [17:00]
MJR_ bit_nutz: coinbr is the way to go [17:00]
Namworld No matter how high BTC price goes up. [17:00]
ThickAsThieves MP does not go down [17:00]
ThickAsThieves sry [17:00]
mircea_popescu lol [17:00]
mircea_popescu actually i do, if i like the girl. [17:01]
MJR_ bit_nutz: it is a broker, while MPEX is an exchange...different models, i think you are looking for a few trades without a huge investmenet [17:01]
MJR_ bit_nutz: if you need or want a referral code, hit me up [17:01]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 9999999 [17:01]
gribble There are currently 39116.983 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 196584826.522 USD in total. | Data vintage: 86.4966 seconds [17:01]
bit_nutz exactly, MJR, thank you very much. actually looking for both, but no way can i convince anyone to get in at that price [17:01]
bVector if anyone is looking to make some guaranteed money icbit is looking for market makers [17:02]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [17:02]
gribble There are currently 31431215 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11320050.13 USD in total. | Data vintage: 97.7643 seconds [17:02]
jurov someone forgot to offer coinbr affiliate url ;) [17:02]
bVector contango is >$50 on their exchange [17:02]
ThickAsThieves https://coinbr.com/ref?c=Q9gPSuUvYS [17:02]
MJR_ damn you beating me to the punch lol [17:02]
MJR_ https://coinbr.com/ref?c=K61tnZTE2J [17:02]
jurov haha [17:02]
ThickAsThieves mine is better tho [17:02]
MJR_ hahaha [17:02]
MJR_ his link is only for extra special traders... [17:03]
ThickAsThieves it comes with good karma and luck [17:03]
bit_nutz much appreciated fellas! [17:03]
MJR_ no problem [17:03]
ThickAsThieves :) [17:03]
MJR_ we are joking around, jurov runs coinbr [17:03]
bit_nutz i'll create two accounts :) [17:03]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 25 @ 0.1535142 = 3.8379 BTC [+] [17:03]
MJR_ and has a referral program, but that being said, its still the best option to trade on mpex without paying 30btc [17:03]
bit_nutz coinbr's seat itself starting to price in....just like one on the comex [17:04]
MJR_ bit_nutz: you'll get twice the account management fees :( don't recommend that approach, also small fee to withdraw so deposit only what you plan to invest [17:04]
MJR_ thats the idea [17:04]
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jurov the idea is not to use coinbr as wallet [17:05]
MJR_ TBH, if the future goes the way I think it will, $6k for a seat on MPeX is chump change [17:05]
bit_nutz yeah unfortunately not much in the way of alternatives. i greatly appreciate the info so far. I will take a look at coinbr [17:05]
bit_nutz totally agreed mjr [17:05]
MJR_ has anyone actually done the NYSE seat vs MPeX seat metric indicator? [17:05]
ThickAsThieves jurov, when/how do referral monies get deposited? [17:06]
MJR_ I honestly think that soon we will move past OMG its bitcoins [17:06]
Namworld idk, but I'm glad i got my MPEx account months ago [17:06]
ThickAsThieves i think i referred bgupta [17:06]
jurov ThickAsThieves: once every week or two [17:06]
ThickAsThieves word [17:07]
MJR_ and people will just weigh going public on which one provides the best access to capital for the lowest fees... [17:07]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [17:07]
gribble MtGox lag is 76.902355 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.154111458378 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU). [17:07]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:07]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.90000, Best ask: 189.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 189.00000, 24 hour volume: 88206.66727086, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 170.78915 [17:08]
jcpham it might have been a bubble last week [17:09]
jcpham now we're correcting to 4 digits [17:10]
jcpham watch [17:10]
mircea_popescu kinda the idea. [17:10]
jcpham zoom. [17:10]
bVector you cant define a bubble in the present [17:10]
mircea_popescu bVector i'm not sure who'd have the guts to MM someone else's service. [17:11]
bVector mircea_popescu: I know right? guy has been liquidating contracts below market value instead of MM himself [17:12]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: will you have to adjust calls to 1000 soon? [17:12]
mircea_popescu bVector which seems suspect. i had an adventure mming it months ago [17:12]
mircea_popescu it didn't work too well, he got called out for it, fixed some stuff then [17:13]
mircea_popescu but it seems it relapsed. [17:13]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller well im sure eventually. [17:13]
mircea_popescu bVector http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ [17:13]
thestringpuller lol [17:13]
thestringpuller ;;bids 180 [17:14]
gribble There are currently 3089.0012 bitcoins demanded at or over 180.0 USD, worth 566325.439336 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0049 seconds [17:14]
thestringpuller ;;asks 200 [17:14]
gribble There are currently 9862.9621 bitcoins offered at or under 200.0 USD, worth 1929350.42126 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.2263 seconds [17:14]
bVector mircea_popescu: oh haha I had read that already, but I didnt notice it was from you [17:14]
thestringpuller $avg [17:14]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 170.08 [17:14]
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mircea_popescu i c [17:14]
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jurov new coin* service: www.coinslut.com [17:15]
jurov ffuuuu expensive as hell [17:15]
mircea_popescu speaking of which [17:16]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999 [17:17]
gribble There are currently 39430.078 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 420409427.646 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds [17:17]
mircea_popescu twitter hottie : @Mircea_Popescu Yes. I don't want to see dude feet any more than I have to. [17:17]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [17:17]
gribble There are currently 31457697 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11443716.5492 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.4931 seconds [17:17]
mircea_popescu my reply : http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/vali-perfu-grupu-de-puleti-si-succesele-online-trei-pasi-simpli/ Scroll down to last pic. I'm wearing the suit. [17:17]
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mircea_popescu her reply is probably arriving chunked. [17:18]
ThickAsThieves plateau coming to an end soon probly [17:18]
ThickAsThieves uptick possible [17:18]
MJR_ yes i saw coinslut [17:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 130 @ 0.00301846 = 0.3924 BTC [+] [17:18]
MJR_ another imitator of buttcoin i suppose [17:18]
MJR_ jk [17:18]
ThickAsThieves there it goes! [17:19]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 190.98699, Best ask: 190.98700, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 190.98700, 24 hour volume: 87974.69014358, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 171.11316 [17:20]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [17:20]
gribble MtGox lag is 2.538403 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00508693119062 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU). [17:20]
bVector mircea_popescu: is there a better site with bitcoin futures? [17:20]
mircea_popescu bVector the jesse powell character is making something [17:20]
mircea_popescu kraken.com [17:20]
mircea_popescu maybe tghat works out. [17:20]
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bVector is he known to be trusted? I haven't heard of him [17:23]
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deadweasel https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170394.new#new [17:27]
deadweasel scammers be scammin [17:27]
error4733 ;;ticker [17:28]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.20000, Best ask: 193.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.80000, Last trade: 192.20000, 24 hour volume: 88061.73622108, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 191.00000, 24 hour vwap: 171.14007 [17:28]
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MJR_ has anything come of kraken yet? their website still had ipsum dolor text on it last i saw [17:30]
mircea_popescu bVector he's of the old guard. [17:30]
mircea_popescu haven't heard him associated with any serious scam. [17:31]
mircea_popescu MJR_ not afauik [17:31]
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punkman who's jesse powell? [17:34]
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pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [17:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.99001, Best ask: 193.09998, Bid-ask spread: 0.10997, Last trade: 191.50000, 24 hour volume: 90183.15818362, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 193.45000, 24 hour vwap: 171.75101 [17:35]
pizzaman1337 golly [17:35]
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deadweasel punkman> who's jesse powell? [17:36]
deadweasel punkman> who's jesse powell? [17:36]
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deadweasel kraken guy? any other projects? [17:37]
punkman btcx.com which redirectis to ogrr.com [17:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 220 @ 0.0029 = 0.638 BTC [-] [17:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 210 @ 0.00286 = 0.6006 BTC [-] [17:38]
punkman https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159974.0 [17:38]
punkman ^ kraken announcement [17:38]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+] [17:41]
ZedsterX kraken open? [17:41]
ZedsterX nope [17:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C188T] 6 @ 0.15614512 = 0.9369 BTC [+] [17:43]
taub that's a really slick looking site [17:43]
punkman https://dl.dropbox.com/u/86939820/pics/bitcoin/20130404_Kraken_Bernanke.png heh [17:43]
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lippoper ;;ticker [17:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 194.50000, Best ask: 194.73000, Bid-ask spread: 0.23000, Last trade: 194.73000, 24 hour volume: 89843.21704685, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.50002, 24 hour vwap: 172.12077 [17:44]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: why is the bot not quoting? [17:44]
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ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999 [17:46]
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ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [17:46]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlaglag [17:47]
gribble Error: "goxlaglag" is not a valid command. [17:47]
ThickAsThieves :) [17:47]
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deadweasel is kraken doing an ipo on mpex [17:47]
deadweasel ? [17:47]
gribble There are currently 36581.849 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 419801324.502 USD in total. | Data vintage: 164.9477 seconds [17:48]
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thestringpuller $avg [17:48]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 170.98 [17:48]
gribble Error: Problem retrieving gox lag. Try again later. [17:48]
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ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [17:49]
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gribble There are currently 31464437 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11366933.4495 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0111 seconds [17:50]
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ThickAsThieves 195 soon if gox will allow it [17:51]
pizzaman1337 ;;goxlag [17:51]
gribble MtGox lag is 58.739646 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.117713592902 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU). [17:52]
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lippoper ;;avg [17:52]
gribble Error: "avg" is not a valid command. [17:52]
ThickAsThieves its also amazing that ltc is holding value thru this [17:52]
lippoper ;;average [17:52]
gribble Error: "average" is not a valid command. [17:52]
ThickAsThieves $avg [17:52]
lippoper $avg [17:52]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 171.16 [17:52]
mpexbot lippoper: 171.16 [17:52]
lippoper ehehe [17:52]
lippoper ;;asks 300 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 15948.06 bitcoins offered at or under 300.0 USD, worth 3706948.78658 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0021 seconds [17:53]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 199.94 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 3855.1291 bitcoins offered at or under 199.94 USD, worth 759220.047747 USD in total. | Data vintage: 10.5840 seconds [17:53]
lippoper ;;asks 50 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 50.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.8828 seconds [17:53]
lippoper ;;asks 90 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.6206 seconds [17:53]
lippoper ;;asks 110 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 110.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.8344 seconds [17:53]
ThickAsThieves ? [17:53]
lippoper ;;asks 150 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 150.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.5021 seconds [17:53]
ThickAsThieves lol [17:53]
lippoper wow [17:53]
ThickAsThieves bids [17:53]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 150 [17:53]
gribble There are currently 18429.761 bitcoins demanded at or over 150.0 USD, worth 3051393.88302 USD in total. | Data vintage: 46.7858 seconds [17:53]
lippoper doh [17:53]
lippoper thanks [17:54]
lippoper ;;bids 50 [17:54]
gribble There are currently 80504.919 bitcoins demanded at or over 50.0 USD, worth 8958437.24309 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.8759 seconds [17:54]
lippoper lol [17:54]
lippoper ;;bids 30 [17:54]
gribble There are currently 105045.26 bitcoins demanded at or over 30.0 USD, worth 9923771.06027 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.2456 seconds [17:54]
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ThickAsThieves lag at 219s... [17:55]
ThickAsThieves the price is too damn high! [17:55]
lippoper the rent is too damn high [17:56]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C200T] 70 @ 0.13203322 = 9.2423 BTC [+] [17:56]
lippoper sell? [17:56]
lippoper hedge? [17:56]
lippoper what to hedge with, LTCs? [17:56]
lippoper PPCs [17:56]
lippoper PCPs? [17:56]
lippoper hehe [17:56]
pizzaman1337 mpex options [17:56]
lippoper I don't really understand the options at all ;-( [17:57]
lippoper is there a FAQ for like 4 year olds? [17:57]
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zomgwtfninjabbq hi all [17:58]
MJR_ zomgwtfninjabbq: what up! [17:58]
ThickAsThieves its kinda suspicious that gox and bitcoincharts lag out at the same time [17:59]
ThickAsThieves not absurd, but if you are the tinfoil hat type... [17:59]
deadweasel lippoper: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/call-option-calculation/?PHPSESSID=jabiqffp0mrceg0a2j6u43tm65 [18:00]
thestringpuller $avg [18:00]
mpexbot thestringpuller: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [18:00]
thestringpuller ;;bc,24hprc [18:01]
gribble Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later. [18:01]
thestringpuller ;;goxlags [18:01]
gribble Error: "goxlags" is not a valid command. [18:01]
pizzaman1337 aw [18:01]
deadweasel ;;goxlag [18:01]
gribble MtGox lag is 357.72889 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.716884690228 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU). [18:01]
thestringpuller ;;goxlag [18:01]
gribble MtGox lag is 360.213922 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.721864666532 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Venus (0.72 AU). [18:01]
deadweasel $avg [18:02]
mpexbot deadweasel: 171.67 [18:02]
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MJR_ ;;goxlag [18:08]
gribble MtGox lag is 14.881836 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0298230327187 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Earth and Moon (0.0257 AU). [18:08]
MJR_ ;;ticker [18:08]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 192.07865, Best ask: 193.99900, Bid-ask spread: 1.92035, Last trade: 190.00000, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382 [18:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 1 @ 0.00247 BTC [+] [18:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [BITVPS] 3 @ 0.00248 = 0.0074 BTC [+] [18:09]
mircea_popescu http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/08/sticky-fingers-thieves-steal-5-tons-nutella-chocolate-spread-from-trailer-in/ [18:10]
mircea_popescu bitcoin's competition. [18:10]
punkman https://peerbet.org/list.php [18:11]
ThickAsThieves 5 tons is only $20000? [18:11]
ThickAsThieves glad i'm not in the sugary spread business [18:12]
zomgwtfninjabbq seriously thats weak sauce [18:12]
mircea_popescu how much would you want it to be [18:12]
lippoper as much as maple syrup [18:13]
mircea_popescu 16 euros a kg. seems plenty. [18:13]
zomgwtfninjabbq 5 tons should be more [18:13]
mircea_popescu maple syrup is overpriced. [18:13]
MJR_ ;;calc 0.43325828 * 172 [18:13]
gribble 74.52042416 [18:13]
gesell ThickAsThieves: as i remember, mtgox sponsors bitcoincharts hosting so not so odd i guess that they would experiance similar uptimes [18:13]
mircea_popescu yeah! points at bitcoinity :D [18:13]
mircea_popescu zomgwtfninjabbq hm actually you have a point, 5 tons for 16k is cheapo [18:13]
ThickAsThieves i use bitcoinity now on my tablet as a 2nd monitor [18:13]
zomgwtfninjabbq look at the OP price @ walmart http://www.walmart.com/ip/17194868?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=21486607510&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem [18:13]
ThickAsThieves i'm so 2013 [18:13]
zomgwtfninjabbq those guys should be millionaries if they can move the product lol [18:14]
lippoper 26.5oz = $115 [18:14]
zomgwtfninjabbq its a pack of 12 [18:14]
zomgwtfninjabbq in all fairness :) [18:14]
lippoper 12*26.5 = $115 [18:15]
lippoper ;;calc 12*26.5 [18:15]
gribble 318 [18:15]
thestringpuller ;;seen smickles [18:15]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: a bitcoin atm could be the easiest way to send money to a friend, each of you just goes to an atm [18:15]
lippoper ;;seen KRS1 [18:15]
gribble KRS1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 0 hours, 13 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: then unF unF unF all night long buttsecks [18:15]
ThickAsThieves whats the next largest market to gox? [18:17]
lippoper lol [18:17]
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ThickAsThieves there was a girl in here! [18:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 5 @ 0.4 = 2 BTC [+] [18:17]
jcpham GO AWAY NO SECUITIES HERE gp5st [18:18]
gp5st ? [18:18]
* jcpham laughs [18:18]
jcpham i saw what coingenuity said [18:18]
gp5st yes, i don't expect to be anonomous on here [18:18]
gp5st i'm just curious why you're sending me away before i even said anything [18:19]
lippoper mtgox first, then bitstamp ? [18:19]
coingenuity hes just joking [18:19]
lippoper btc-e [18:19]
lippoper 1. mtgox [18:19]
lippoper 2. bitstamp [18:19]
lippoper 3. btc-e [18:19]
ThickAsThieves 182 [18:20]
ThickAsThieves 190 [18:20]
ThickAsThieves hehe [18:20]
lippoper 193 at bitstamp [18:20]
lippoper 180 at btc-e [18:20]
lippoper 190 at gox [18:20]
ThickAsThieves 8 minites ago... [18:21]
ThickAsThieves minutes* [18:21]
lippoper not that much different now [18:21]
lippoper lol [18:21]
lippoper 180 [18:21]
lippoper ;goxlag [18:21]
lippoper ;;goxlag [18:21]
gribble MtGox lag is 530.31955 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.06275444045 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU). [18:21]
lippoper There are no sell orders in mtgox LMAO [18:22]
lippoper http://bitcoinity.org/markets?currency=USD&exchange=mtgox [18:22]
MJR_ so... [18:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.USD.C167T] 12 @ 0.21687369 = 2.6025 BTC [18:22]
lippoper so it rebounded right back [18:22]
lippoper to 190 and back to 180 [18:23]
lippoper it looks crazy [18:23]
MJR_ lol [18:23]
lippoper and back again [18:23]
lippoper ;;ticker [18:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 185.00000, Best ask: 188.00000, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last trade: 188.00000, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382 [18:23]
deadweasel rip roarin' monday! [18:24]
taub trading with this lag is so risky... [18:24]
lippoper ;;goxlag [18:24]
gribble MtGox lag is 547.256203 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.09669530343 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU). [18:24]
MJR_ its hilarious is what it is [18:24]
MJR_ HAHAHA [18:24]
deadweasel gotta get your sea legs lippoper [18:24]
MJR_ that is insane lag [18:24]
lippoper on btc-e.com last night, someone sold and bought a btc for 1 euro, fat finger typo, brought the price down temporarily [18:24]
MJR_ watch spread hit $10, people hitting both bid and ask...cuz limit orders are too l33t [18:24]
taub with limit you risk getting your order in in 10 minutes and price being way somewhere else already [18:25]
jcpham i was joking gp5st [18:25]
taub and not getting a fill, with market order the same, getting a fill when you DONT want it hah [18:25]
jcpham totally [18:25]
gp5st jcpham: no worries:) [18:26]
MJR_ well...good point...same risk with market [18:26]
MJR_ but at least i know what price i would get with limit [18:26]
MJR_ dude the book is so flat right now [18:26]
lippoper ;;ticker [18:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 189.00000, Best ask: 189.09253, Bid-ask spread: 0.09253, Last trade: 189.09253, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382 [18:26]
MJR_ ;;bids 0 [18:27]
gribble There are currently 31464316 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10965315.338 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.2956 seconds [18:27]
lippoper ;;bids 190 [18:27]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 190.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.5139 seconds [18:27]
lippoper ;;bids 189 [18:27]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 189.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 77.1948 seconds [18:27]
lippoper ;;bids 188 [18:27]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins demanded at or over 188.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 88.2749 seconds [18:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999999 [18:27]
gribble There are currently 38611.831 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 124133572427.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 92.3664 seconds [18:27]
lippoper ;;asks 188 [18:27]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 188.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 97.7439 seconds [18:27]
lippoper ;;asks 185 [18:28]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 185.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 110.1619 seconds [18:28]
lippoper ;;bids 185 [18:28]
gribble There are currently 59.464252 bitcoins demanded at or over 185.0 USD, worth 11003.0167388 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.8411 seconds [18:28]
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lippoper ;;seen krs-1 [18:28]
gribble krs-1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: you should use haskell [18:28]
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MJR_ damn the 194 bubble popped [18:31]
MJR_ we're only at 188 now :( [18:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.3102 = 0.6204 BTC [+] [18:34]
mircea_popescu aww [18:34]
taub as long as 180 holds [18:34]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [18:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.94810, Best ask: 184.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05190, Last trade: 184.00000, 24 hour volume: 90533.62221495, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 172.38382 [18:34]
error4733 now way maybe a big correction to 150 ? [18:35]
error4733 :D [18:35]
bitesak ;;goxlag [18:35]
gribble MtGox lag is 626.757022 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.25601405457 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Earth (1 AU). [18:35]
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jurov Mt. Gox verification queue: 15500 [18:36]
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MJR_ geez that would be nice [18:40]
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deadweasel ;;goxlag [18:40]
gribble MtGox lag is 723.534724 seconds. During this time, light travels 1.4499554858 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from the Sun to Mars (1.52 AU). [18:40]
troc they claim 21 employess will/are processing that queue [18:41]
troc how long does it take to actually verify a jpg do some data input ? [18:42]
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troc do they actually do a proper authenticity check from some one in say uruguay ? [18:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.25001 BTC [-] [18:43]
troc document authenticity* [18:43]
mircea_popescu heh. [18:43]
jurov can't imagine... they would annoy all emmassies in tokyo [18:43]
jurov *embassies [18:43]
mircea_popescu the ability to verify arbitrary worldwide identity documents costs more than the entire bitcoin implicit mkt cap [18:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 10 @ 0.25 = 2.5 BTC [-] [18:44]
troc so this AML/KYC is a tick box excercise ? [18:44]
troc they have the data just in case [18:44]
punkman theatre [18:44]
mircea_popescu well the entire system is nonsense, so. [18:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 16 @ 0.24 = 3.84 BTC [-] [18:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.89 BTC [-] [18:45]
mircea_popescu aml/kyc exists so administration can claim "it's bank's fault" no matter what. [18:45]
mircea_popescu bank accepts this because it's nationalised anyway, not owned by someone to tell administration to get bent. [18:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.3102 BTC [+] [18:48]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.12 BTC [+] [18:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 32 @ 0.119 = 3.808 BTC [-] [18:50]
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assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 34 @ 0.0038 = 0.1292 BTC [-] [18:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00336 BTC [-] [18:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 10 @ 0.003222 = 0.0322 BTC [-] [18:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 28 @ 0.003221 = 0.0902 BTC [-] [18:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 27 @ 0.00321 = 0.0867 BTC [-] [18:52]
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ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [18:56]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 999999999 [18:56]
gribble There are currently 31463914 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 11289394.0852 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0106 seconds [18:56]
gribble There are currently 42369.685 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3024365298.1 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.4389 seconds [18:56]
ThickAsThieves price gon dip more [18:57]
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MJR_ what was that second order volatility instrument jurov? [18:59]
MJR_ volatility of volatility [18:59]
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jurov https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.MPBPT-E , choose Options [19:00]
jurov but, as i said, it may be unusable [19:00]
MJR_ yeah...we'll see, worth looking at [19:00]
MJR_ could be good with a short straddle [19:00]
MJR_ :) [19:00]
jurov plus, ukto asks 10% fee on them [19:01]
mircea_popescu "Dodd-Frank and Basel III rules are changing the OTC derivatives landscape significantly. http://bit.ly/Zd8VLy" [19:01]
mircea_popescu and i'm like... yeah, significantly. [19:01]
MJR_ its mpoe bond pass through? [19:01]
jurov yes [19:01]
MJR_ that is a measure of volatility? [19:02]
jurov if there's very high volatility, bonds lose [19:02]
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mircea_popescu that's not exactly it [19:02]
jurov if there's medium volatility, they are more profitable [19:02]
MJR_ yeah, its a pseudo measure [19:02]
jurov so yeah it's nontrivial [19:02]
MJR_ yeah [19:03]
MJR_ something though [19:03]
mircea_popescu yeah, i'd say high volatility increases their risk to either lose a lot or make a lot,. [19:03]
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MJR_ but it doesn't really do well for directional choices [19:03]
MJR_ that is true...a strong downward pressure could prob make a ton right now [19:03]
jurov alternatively, you can do second order for difficulty [19:03]
jurov options for https://bitfunder.com/asset/CoinBr.iDiff-E [19:04]
MJR_ that is cool too [19:04]
MJR_ i guess what i was thinking was an option on a straddle... [19:05]
jurov if you dare to price something like that... [19:06]
ThickAsThieves going up again [19:08]
ThickAsThieves or not [19:08]
ThickAsThieves lol [19:08]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.99000, Best ask: 181.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 181.00000, 24 hour volume: 93351.05877440, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 173.59011 [19:09]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170399.0 this is lol [19:10]
ThickAsThieves considering the wallet has received 1.307 total, the man made a big impact [19:12]
ThickAsThieves lol [19:12]
TomServo heh, 'moment of weakness'. Yes, I'm sure it was fleeting. [19:12]
thestringpuller This is the greatest thing I have ever seen. [19:13]
pgp what about implied volatility on MPOE options? [19:16]
pgp is their some sort of measure? [19:16]
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thestringpuller LOL [19:17]
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ThickAsThieves 179.50 [19:17]
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jurov pgp, their price? [19:19]
pgp not really - wouldn't work that way... [19:19]
thestringpuller jurov: doesn't mpoe take in a volatility greek in it's pricing [19:20]
lippoper ;;ticker [19:20]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.10000, Best ask: 181.76618, Bid-ask spread: 1.66618, Last trade: 180.10000, 24 hour volume: 93351.05877440, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 173.59011 [19:20]
jurov thestringpuller: how would i know? [19:20]
pgp and we're talking about the implied volatility on the 24 hour average... [19:20]
ThickAsThieves $avg [19:20]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [19:20]
thestringpuller jurov: based on all the trades you've made I dunno [19:20]
pgp what? vega? [19:21]
thestringpuller don't you know B-S or is that just smickles and popescu? [19:21]
MJR_ http://www.bloomberg.com/video/bitcoin-market-represents-greed-analyst-says-X9C8_Bn2Tayvd_l46IYx2g.html [19:21]
MJR_ ^^^ LOLZ [19:21]
MJR_ SOCGen analyst using tulip analogy [19:21]
jurov but i don't know the formula. mp has his properietary one, smickles didn't release it too [19:21]
jurov it is certainly derived from greeks [19:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 50 @ 0.1 = 5 BTC [-] [19:22]
thestringpuller the BCB is doing it's job i seems [19:23]
thestringpuller it* [19:24]
thestringpuller :D [19:24]
thestringpuller $avg [19:24]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 172.58 [19:24]
lippoper watching video [19:25]
lippoper ;;ticker [19:26]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 175.00000, Best ask: 176.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 175.00000, 24 hour volume: 97038.53628561, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 174.54363 [19:26]
lippoper buffering for ever [19:27]
lippoper argh [19:27]
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lippoper let me know when you're all done watching it [19:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 999999999999 [19:27]
gribble There are currently 45540.708 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.42184431699e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0295 seconds [19:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [+] [19:27]
ThickAsThieves still possibly 5000+ coins that might be sold into bids [19:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;market --sell 5000 [19:28]
gribble A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 836963.8067 USD and would take the last price down to 161.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 167.3928 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 32.2451 seconds [19:28]
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IronSalad -assets [19:28]
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lippoper so 161 eh? [19:30]
lippoper sell now, buy low? [19:30]
lippoper ;;market --buy 5000 [19:30]
gribble A market order to buy 5000 bitcoins right now would take 922755.3103 USD and would take the last price up to 193.9201 USD, resulting in an average price of 184.5511 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 62.1115 seconds [19:30]
Scrat gox sucking major dick again [19:30]
Scrat ;;goxlag [19:30]
gribble MtGox lag is 113.779906 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.228013657681 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU). [19:30]
lippoper with this coxlag, it's too late [19:31]
lippoper by the time i get the sell in, it'll be at the lowest [19:31]
lippoper lol [19:31]
Scrat it appears that legit customers are ddos'ing the poor engine again [19:31]
lippoper ;;goxlag [19:32]
lippoper $avg [19:32]
lippoper ;;ticker [19:32]
gribble MtGox lag is 147.167236 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.294921493178 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU). [19:32]
mpexbot lippoper: 174.38 [19:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 173.00000, Best ask: 173.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.50000, Last trade: 172.16000, 24 hour volume: 97038.53628561, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 174.54363 [19:32]
thestringpuller $avg [19:32]
mpexbot thestringpuller: 174.38 [19:32]
pgp gox blows... [19:32]
thestringpuller Okay woo that's better [19:32]
pgp watching life in slow motion [19:32]
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lippoper we're going back to 175 [19:33]
lippoper i mean 174 [19:33]
kakobrekla i mean 17.4 [19:34]
lippoper $avg [19:35]
mpexbot lippoper: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [19:35]
lippoper hehe [19:35]
lippoper bot error [19:35]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 9999999 [19:35]
gribble There are currently 46302.391 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999.0 USD, worth 197897107.999 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.0835 seconds [19:35]
ThickAsThieves could still fall under 170 [19:36]
lippoper you figured that from the asks just now? [19:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+] [19:36]
ThickAsThieves total coins for sale [19:36]
lippoper i knew i should've sold at 181, to buy back now [19:36]
ThickAsThieves it was 38000 this morning [19:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.789 BTC [+] [19:36]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [19:36]
gribble There are currently 31360932 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 10408947.2577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0105 seconds [19:36]
ThickAsThieves and total usd was 11.5m [19:37]
ThickAsThieves so we are deflating [19:37]
lippoper but that's due to the price drop [19:37]
ThickAsThieves no [19:37]
kakobrekla just a weekend dip xD [19:37]
ThickAsThieves hehe [19:37]
kakobrekla they tend not to happen over the weekend latley [19:38]
lippoper thought it was calculating 31360932 * 173 vs 31360932 * 185 [19:38]
kakobrekla so it must be it [19:38]
lippoper ;;calc 31360932 * 171 [19:38]
gribble 5362719372 [19:38]
lippoper ;;calc 31360932 * 185 [19:38]
gribble 5801772420 [19:38]
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thestringpuller fjf [19:39]
lippoper just some dudes looking to make a quick buck [19:39]
lippoper ;;market --sell 5000 [19:40]
gribble A market order to sell 5000 bitcoins right now would net 829476.2546 USD and would take the last price down to 160.3793 USD, resulting in an average price of 165.8953 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0005 seconds [19:40]
lippoper ;;market --buy 5000 [19:40]
gribble A market order to buy 5000 bitcoins right now would take 929727.7045 USD and would take the last price up to 193.9201 USD, resulting in an average price of 185.9455 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 23.6669 seconds [19:40]
lippoper you sell that for $829,476 and buy back lower when others panic sell. [19:40]
lippoper ;;help [19:40]
gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ [19:40]
taub I think it's plausable that mtgox fakes lag [19:41]
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taub to help them time the market and make big profits themselves [19:41]
lippoper ;;market buy --usd 829,476 [19:42]
gribble Error: '829,476' is not a valid floating point number. [19:42]
taub they could look x mins into the future [19:42]
lippoper ;;market buy --usd 829476 [19:42]
gribble A market order to buy 829476.0000 USD worth of bitcoins right now would buy 4482.4317 bitcoins and would take the last price up to 192.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 185.0504 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0003 seconds [19:42]
MJR_ already coming back [19:42]
lippoper ;;ticker [19:42]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 176.00000, Best ask: 178.90000, Bid-ask spread: 2.90000, Last trade: 178.90000, 24 hour volume: 97038.53628561, 24 hour low: 152.25000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 174.54363 [19:42]
ThickAsThieves wait [19:42]
lippoper ;;obip [19:43]
gribble (obip ) -- Calculate the "order book implied price", by finding the weighted average price of coins BTC up and down from the spread. [19:43]
lippoper ;;nextretarget [19:43]
gribble 231839 [19:43]
lippoper ;;bcstats [19:43]
kakobrekla goxlag http://jezus.si:81/render/?title=Mtgox+Lag+-+1+hour&vtitle=Seconds&from=-1hour&width=500&height=250&until=now&areaMode=none&lineMode=connected&target=alias%28bitcoin.mtgox.lag%2C%22Mtgox_lag%22%29 [19:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;obip 165-195 [19:44]
gribble Error: '165-195' is not a valid floating point number. [19:44]
gribble Current Blocks: 230317 | Current Difficulty: 7672999.920164138 | Next Difficulty At Block: 231839 | Next Difficulty In: 1522 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 21 hours, 36 minutes, and 50 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 8894294.12027 | Estimated Percent Change: 15.91678 [19:44]
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ThickAsThieves ;;obip 165 195 [19:44]
gribble (obip ) -- Calculate the "order book implied price", by finding the weighted average price of coins BTC up and down from the spread. [19:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 15 @ 0.00995 = 0.1493 BTC [+] [19:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;obip 165 [19:44]
gribble The weighted average price of BTC, 165.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 175.78545 USD. | Data vintage: 102.6372 seconds [19:44]
taub ;;obip 9999 [19:44]
gribble The weighted average price of BTC, 9999.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 176.23661 USD. | Data vintage: 110.7134 seconds [19:44]
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benkay bitcoin-qt is a goddamn resource hog. [19:44]
taub ;;obip 99999 [19:44]
gribble Error: The width provided extends past the edge of the order book. Please use a smaller width. [19:44]
lippoper ;;totalbc [19:44]
gribble 11007950.0 [19:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 99999999999 [19:44]
gribble There are currently 45919.694 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999999.0 USD, worth 124134955395.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 14.5671 seconds [19:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;obip 45919 [19:45]
gribble The weighted average price of BTC, 45919.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 596185.33923 USD. | Data vintage: 22.1521 seconds [19:45]
lippoper ;;obip 6 [19:45]
gribble The weighted average price of BTC, 6.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 176.99167 USD. | Data vintage: 42.9386 seconds [19:45]
taub yea lol that doesnt mean aynthing [19:45]
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lippoper ;;obip 1 [19:45]
gribble The weighted average price of BTC, 1.0 coins up and down from the spread, is 177.00000 USD. | Data vintage: 60.2608 seconds [19:45]
taub but the ratio of all btc offered / usd offered went from 299 to 240 during this dip [19:46]
taub wait, usd/btc [19:46]
ThickAsThieves so i think what we're seeing is, an initial run up from lack of coins on the market over the weekend, then everyone scrambling to get coins into gox this morning, then selling [19:46]
MJR_ ThickAsThieves; makes sense [19:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10289 BTC [+] [19:47]
lippoper makes sense [19:47]
lippoper (lulz) [19:47]
ThickAsThieves which puts our "real" price at about 169 [19:47]
jurov butbutbut it's climbing again [19:48]
ThickAsThieves only reason it wouldnt dip that low is if sellers hold out and cause a nother dip later [19:48]
ThickAsThieves which would be prudent [19:48]
ThickAsThieves let bids build back up to 185 or so, then sell off again [19:49]
Skarr no lag! [19:49]
benkay "prudent" [19:49]
benkay how is it prudent for someone to sell these notionally-valued strings? [19:50]
ThickAsThieves well, for the past 3 months, its remained quite true that waiting to sell is prudent, no? [19:50]
ThickAsThieves lol bitcoinity rollercoaster [19:50]
benkay yeah but who cares about the past three months [19:50]
benkay this is disruptive fintech [19:51]
ThickAsThieves fuck everything nyah! [19:51]
benkay no i get it [19:51]
pgp disruptive fintech... i like the sound of that [19:51]
benkay i'm just expressing disbelief at the sheer volume of idiots in the world [19:51]
ThickAsThieves you must be young [19:51]
Skarr I'm guessing we now have our range, 172-194. And we'll see a symmetric wedge develop within that, centered around the 183 price point, while another day of consolidation around this new price point occurs. Then the next leg-up. [19:52]
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pgp it is startling to see how quickly it's moving up... $500 ain't so far away anymore... [19:52]
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Skarr ThickAsThieves - I'd agree fully your theory is what kick-started the run/sell-off. [19:52]
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lippoper almost halfway [19:52]
lippoper all within a month [19:53]
deadweasel weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! price coaster! :D [19:53]
pgp It is also true that much of the liquidity dynamics has to do with mt gox back office operations.... [19:53]
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ThickAsThieves if you think about, you can call sellers and buyers idiots [19:53]
lippoper at this rate, in another month, it'll be $500 [19:53]
ThickAsThieves they are both too aggressive [19:53]
benkay totes disagree [19:53]
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benkay thickasthieves [19:53]
ThickAsThieves well obv buyers will pay any price [19:54]
benkay "pay" "price" [19:54]
ThickAsThieves so why sell into bids? [19:54]
benkay us "buyers" need a decent place to store value [19:54]
lippoper yeah [19:54]
ThickAsThieves ok [19:54]
ThickAsThieves you need it NOW [19:54]
ThickAsThieves ? [19:54]
benkay it literally does not matter at which price we put accrued value into the lockbox [19:54]
lippoper you need to classify "buyers" [19:54]
lippoper there are 2 types of buyers at least [19:55]
ThickAsThieves anyone not "playing" the market [19:55]
lippoper 1 that is a consumer, actually exchanging USD to BTC to use it. [19:55]
benkay everyone who wants to preserve capital [19:55]
lippoper and 2 an investor type, who hoards it to sell later. [19:55]
deadweasel ;;goxlag [19:55]
gribble MtGox lag is 143.77873 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.288130965093 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one month (0.2988 AU). [19:55]
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ThickAsThieves people buying btc to use it are tiny slice of the pie [19:55]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/grave-concerns-re-mtgox/ [19:55]
mircea_popescu if anyone's curious, i'm adding gox to the suspected scam list. [19:56]
MJR_ LOL ^^ [19:57]
benkay gross [19:57]
benkay why can nobody run a business? [19:57]
benkay how does one trip and fall into a ponzi scheme? [19:57]
MJR_ hahaha [19:58]
benkay i just want to work with grownups [19:58]
MJR_ bitcoin can get a little too "lord of the flies" huh? [19:59]
mircea_popescu heh [19:59]
mircea_popescu we still got a ways to go to growunupland [19:59]
ThickAsThieves mp i truly hope you are wrong [19:59]
benkay mircea_popescu does spend a disturbingly large amount of time talking shit, yes MJR [19:59]
ThickAsThieves but their behavior is questionable indeed [19:59]
MJR_ look around...they are chasing piggy over there...scared of some monster [19:59]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe i am. i don't see it tho. [20:00]
MJR_ fighting over a conch (is that the foundation, gavin, luke jr etc?) [20:00]
MJR_ surprisingly apt for a flippant remark [20:00]
benkay symbols over real things [20:00]
benkay world has problem with this [20:00]
benkay actually [20:00]
benkay idiots have a problem with this. confusing real things for the symbols. [20:01]
benkay and there are giant scads of idiots in the world. [20:01]
MJR_ benkay: there is a lot to talk shit about...mircea calls a spade a spade...better to fix it than to be polite to it [20:01]
benkay i just like poking at him, mjr [20:01]
ThickAsThieves if you are right, isnt this the equivalent of a draining hot wallet [20:01]
benkay it's how i pretend i matter [20:01]
ThickAsThieves where it will just get worse and worse very quickly [20:01]
MJR_ benkay: you matter, everyone here who is so entertaining and educational matters [20:01]
benkay you flatter me, and that triggers alarm bells. [20:02]
MJR_ guys...are you watching the price? we are climbing back up right now [20:02]
ThickAsThieves i guess they dont even need to be using fake btc to manipulate price at this point [20:02]
ThickAsThieves 230s lag mjr_ [20:02]
MJR_ oh i know [20:02]
ThickAsThieves we arent going anywhere [20:02]
MJR_ this is vega as fuck [20:02]
benkay "fake btc" [20:02]
MJR_ and i love it [20:02]
benkay make me cry [20:02]
MJR_ this is like vega from street fighter II [20:02]
MJR_ note to self: super hero cartoon tv show based on greek options symbols [20:03]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yes. [20:03]
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ThickAsThieves my brother "Oh, and I sold a Skylander for $60. Bought it for $20, so screw your damn coins!" [20:03]
ThickAsThieves is anyone really any more trustworthy than Gox though? [20:05]
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ThickAsThieves not saying they are trustworthy, so much as, is anyone? [20:05]
mircea_popescu plenty of people. [20:05]
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ThickAsThieves if majority market traffic moves to bitinstant, then they have same incentive to deceive [20:06]
MJR_ mpex [20:06]
MJR_ jurov [20:06]
MJR_ smickles [20:06]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yeah, that's a problem. [20:06]
MJR_ prob nanotube? [20:06]
mircea_popescu i would trust nanotube yes. [20:06]
MJR_ namworld [20:06]
ThickAsThieves none of them run currency exchanges [20:06]
MJR_ evoorhees [20:06]
benkay it's the worst business [20:06]
MJR_ the list goes on [20:06]
benkay it will attract the dumbest players [20:06]
benkay someone should fix that. [20:06]
jurov Ukto. He runs weexchange [20:06]
mircea_popescu benkay eyah this is a problem. [20:07]
lippoper can't i just sell bitcoins to wells fargo? [20:07]
lippoper KRS1 told me that [20:07]
lippoper ;;seen krs1 [20:07]
gribble krs1 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 5 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: then unF unF unF all night long buttsecks [20:07]
lippoper lol [20:07]
ThickAsThieves so MP, instead of losing XX,XXX btc on options due to being Gox'd, tighten the algo, and use the money to show em how its done [20:08]
ThickAsThieves with a real currency exchange [20:08]
benkay yeah mircea_popescu distract yourself from the exchange [20:09]
benkay the actual important part of the ecosystem [20:09]
mircea_popescu i;m not making a fiat exchange [20:09]
ThickAsThieves i dont blame you [20:09]
benkay come on [20:09]
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lippoper ;ticker [20:09]
lippoper ;;ticker [20:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 180.28900, Best ask: 186.10000, Bid-ask spread: 5.81100, Last trade: 186.10000, 24 hour volume: 100099.75681545, 24 hour low: 155.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 176.22978 [20:09]
benkay banks should take over exchange biz in the US. [20:10]
benkay assertion ^^ [20:11]
benkay thoughts? [20:11]
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mircea_popescu ideally. [20:11]
lippoper we're trying to be decentralized [20:11]
lippoper but yeah, it would be nice if we could exchange money there for fiat [20:11]
lippoper err ^^ btc for fiat/money [20:12]
jurov banks need to figure out how to do it profitably [20:12]
ThickAsThieves banks cant even make a decent online banking website] [20:12]
lippoper Fees [20:12]
ThickAsThieves nevermind sort out btc [20:12]
benkay dude [20:12]
benkay it's shifting bits around [20:12]
benkay there is zero cost to it [20:12]
jurov if they ask huge fees, street competition would spring immediately [20:12]
benkay okay not zero [20:12]
benkay but trivial [20:12]
mircea_popescu anyway, for anyone curious about the old days : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=444.msg3866#msg3866 [20:12]
ThickAsThieves not trivial to banks [20:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 1 @ 0.25103 BTC [-] [20:13]
Scrat shifting non reversible bits [20:13]
mircea_popescu "https://mtgox.com/users/login?username=SmokeTooMuch&password=XXXXXXX [20:13]
mircea_popescu what the fuck!?! use hashes for transmitting and saving passwords!!!!" [20:13]
benkay shit should be a fucking account feature [20:13]
jurov it's not like credit cards where you can;t legally compete with them [20:13]
assbot [BTCTC] [ESECURITYSABTC] 5 @ 0.25102 = 1.2551 BTC [-] [20:13]
ThickAsThieves they hate spending money on IT [20:13]
benkay i hate them [20:13]
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benkay i hate everyone who doesn't spend money on it [20:13]
benkay nobody seems to understand that 2 nerds and 50k of server equipment will trash your competitors, if properly managed [20:14]
benkay and venture capitalists are obsessed with new businesses [20:14]
benkay not breaking old businesses [20:14]
benkay and i get that, but at the same time i break things all day every day [20:14]
ThickAsThieves nerd cant "properly manage" much, as you can see [20:14]
benkay 2 nerds and a manager [20:14]
ThickAsThieves manager must be a nerd too [20:15]
benkay dude [20:15]
benkay get off me [20:15]
ThickAsThieves hehe [20:15]
mircea_popescu nobody seems to understand that 2 nerds and 50k of server equipment will trash your competitors, if properly managed << i understand lol. [20:15]
benkay i work in this space [20:15]
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benkay i have seen the damage that non technical managers can wreak on a team [20:15]
ThickAsThieves all i'm saying is banks never really caught up with tech [20:16]
benkay i actually like team dynamics, which makes me a weird nerd. [20:16]
ThickAsThieves so its hard [20:16]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 999999999 [20:16]
gribble There are currently 46992.924 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999.0 USD, worth 3025256372.08 USD in total. | Data vintage: 78.1869 seconds [20:16]
benkay mircea_popescu you built a 50m fiat-valued company in less than3 years [20:16]
benkay i'm not exactly including you in the idiot bucket [20:16]
benkay also you're like a gangster or something terrifying [20:17]
jurov it's traditional thing. around here it is better, everything done electronically, in some banks you can send money using internet instantly anytime to other account in same bank [20:17]
benkay i know! [20:17]
benkay i do this! [20:17]
jurov but still, interbank transfer, 1 day [20:17]
jurov sepa 2 days [20:17]
ThickAsThieves get ready for another price dip [20:17]
benkay hahaha [20:17]
benkay in us [20:17]
benkay 5 days [20:17]
mircea_popescu that's ridiculous [20:17]
benkay fuck this country. [20:17]
benkay i love it [20:17]
benkay but fuck it [20:18]
mircea_popescu sepa is next day wtf. [20:18]
jurov maybe next day if they send it in the morning [20:18]
benkay automate all of these things [20:18]
benkay release yourself of the burden of wage slaves [20:18]
benkay and the hr overhead to rule them [20:18]
ThickAsThieves ;;market --sell 1000 [20:18]
gribble A market order to sell 1000 bitcoins right now would net 179856.6021 USD and would take the last price down to 178.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 179.8566 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 16.5092 seconds [20:18]
lippoper so do you guys think the price will crash before the 10th, that's when they discontinue the Mt.Gox redeemable codes. [20:19]
lippoper ? [20:19]
ThickAsThieves ;;market --sell 2000 [20:19]
gribble A market order to sell 2000 bitcoins right now would net 356703.9257 USD and would take the last price down to 175.5200 USD, resulting in an average price of 178.3520 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 28.5843 seconds [20:19]
jurov benkay consider that even mpex/coinbr deposits aren't automated [20:19]
benkay yeah that was a foolish statement [20:19]
jurov and after that recent fork i'm not rushing to do sth [20:19]
benkay here's a wack idea [20:20]
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benkay wacky* [20:20]
benkay new mining pool [20:20]
benkay funds go to rewriting hairball [20:20]
mircea_popescu lippoper i doubt really. [20:20]
ThickAsThieves ;goxlag [20:20]
ThickAsThieves another way gox could leverage lag, [20:21]
lippoper just considering that there's still a huge queue to withdraw money [20:21]
ThickAsThieves is tell sell on outside exhanges [20:21]
ThickAsThieves is to sell on [20:21]
lippoper isn't there a chance a lot of people will transfer their BTC's out and find another way to exchange? [20:21]
lippoper once the codes are gone [20:21]
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ThickAsThieves codes probably dont have major impact [20:21]
ThickAsThieves i dunno tho [20:22]
jurov that if gox will allow much btc to be withdrawn. [20:22]
lippoper it's the only way to withdraw money if you're not verified [20:22]
jurov you didn't read the article? [20:22]
lippoper money as in USD [20:22]
jurov they now fuss with btc withdrawal, too [20:22]
lippoper argh [20:22]
benkay i tell my friends to not use gox [20:23]
benkay eat the higher fees elsewhere [20:23]
benkay experience some modicum of safety [20:23]
benkay heh [20:23]
benkay generally, avoid single points of failure in your personal financial infrastructure [20:23]
ThickAsThieves cant really call any bitcoin establishment 'safe' [20:23]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.3102 = 3.102 BTC [+] [20:24]
benkay ofc not [20:24]
benkay one can however reduce risk [20:24]
ThickAsThieves i guess betting on sdice is close, since its fast [20:24]
lippoper one of these days when btc is worth $400/each i'll bet it all on satoshi dice [20:25]
lippoper either come out richer or empty handed. [20:25]
benkay just go to a real casino [20:25]
benkay at least they have prostitutes [20:25]
lippoper no [20:25]
lippoper those are rigged [20:25]
lippoper lol [20:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31 BTC [-] [20:25]
benkay so is dice [20:26]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 9999999999 [20:26]
gribble There are currently 48196.751 bitcoins offered at or under 9999999999.0 USD, worth 14035802498.9 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.5039 seconds [20:26]
lippoper I don't think it is, is it? [20:26]
benkay there's no difference between someone who says i will take your money and someone who says i will take your money [20:26]
lippoper a 98% chance of winning 1.004x return seems like a good bet [20:26]
benkay no matter the statistical whatever [20:26]
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benkay don't bet [20:26]
benkay make educated plays [20:26]
mircea_popescu ;;calc .98 * 1.004 [20:27]
gribble 0.98392 [20:27]
benkay the odds are better [20:27]
lippoper ok, please give me an example right now of an educated play [20:27]
mircea_popescu seems not. [20:27]
benkay (the bettors are odder) [20:27]
benkay let's see [20:27]
benkay a company that aggregates signed receipts for bitcoin purchases and publishes trust ratings for merchants [20:27]
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benkay a contract killing outfit [20:28]
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lippoper you gave a very risky business idea and an illegal one. [20:28]
lippoper lol [20:28]
benkay you obviously don't have the chops to make those plays thenm [20:28]
lippoper Might as well be a day trader ;-) [20:28]
ThickAsThieves lag has lagged out [20:28]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [20:29]
benkay may as well put it all on red [20:29]
gribble MtGox lag is 46.885324 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0939576643418 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Saturn and Titan (0.0802 AU). [20:29]
lippoper agreed [20:29]
lippoper ;;bet red [20:29]
gribble Error: "bet" is not a valid command. [20:29]
lippoper ;;roll [20:29]
gribble Error: "roll" is not a valid command. [20:29]
benkay why do you gamble? [20:29]
benkay here's another easy, legal educated play [20:29]
ThickAsThieves more fun than digging ditches [20:29]
benkay HOLD BITCOINS [20:29]
lippoper ;;genprob 2200 [20:30]
gribble (genprob []) -- Calculate probability to generate a block using Mhps, in seconds, at current difficulty. If optional argument is provided, probability is for supplied difficulty. To provide the argument, a nested 'elapsed' command may be helpful. [20:30]
benkay why not just buy sex? [20:30]
benkay purchase fun? [20:30]
ThickAsThieves is that not what gambling is? [20:30]
lippoper ;;genprob 2200 1 [20:30]
gribble The probability to generate a block at 2200.0 Mhps within 1 second, given difficulty of 7672999.92016, is 6.67571229407e-08 [20:30]
benkay huh. [20:30]
benkay okay philosophical question, why is gambling fun? [20:30]
lippoper ;;genprob 22000000 6000 [20:30]
gribble The probability to generate a block at 22000000.0 Mhps within 1 hour, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds, given difficulty of 7672999.92016, is 0.981783500137 [20:30]
benkay gamblers only please [20:31]
benkay ;) [20:31]
lippoper the thrill of the ride ;-) [20:31]
ThickAsThieves i think it appeals for different reasons for some people [20:31]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [20:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 183.87811, Best ask: 184.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.62189, Last trade: 183.50000, 24 hour volume: 100167.85329295, 24 hour low: 155.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 176.66415 [20:31]
lippoper the excitement/anxiety/thrill of either making it big or just for the fucking fun of feeling alive [20:32]
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lippoper the guy playing poker with millions of dollars is not really having sex with that fine blonde bitch standing over his shoulder.... he's having more fun with his millions. Bitches second, Money first. [20:33]
lippoper ;;tslb [20:33]
gribble Time since last block: 13 minutes and 51 seconds [20:33]
lippoper ;interval [20:34]
lippoper ;;interval [20:34]
gribble 496.55172413793105 [20:34]
lippoper ;;calc 496.55172413793105 / 60 [20:34]
gribble 8.27586206897 [20:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00065489 = 4.1913 BTC [+] [20:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10590 @ 0.00065873 = 6.976 BTC [+] [20:34]
lippoper ;;calc (496.55172413793105 / 60) / 60 [20:34]
gribble 0.137931034483 [20:34]
lippoper is that 8 hours or 8 minutes [20:35]
lippoper lol [20:35]
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lippoper ;;interval 10 [20:35]
gribble (interval takes no arguments) -- Shows average interval, in seconds, between last 1000 blocks. [20:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.3095 = 1.5475 BTC [-] [20:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.3097 = 0.6194 BTC [+] [20:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.3099 = 2.4792 BTC [+] [20:36]
punkman benkay, the answer is risk, risk is fun [20:36]
lippoper interval - show the average time between blocks, over the past 1000 blocks. If given optional integer argument, use that many blocks for the estimate. [20:36]
lippoper gribble: (interval takes no arguments) -- Shows average interval, in seconds, between last 1000 blocks. [20:36]
lippoper lies [20:36]
lippoper ;-) [20:36]
lippoper ;;ticker [20:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 181.00000, Best ask: 182.40000, Bid-ask spread: 1.40000, Last trade: 182.40000, 24 hour volume: 100167.85329295, 24 hour low: 155.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 176.66415 [20:36]
lippoper ;;diffchange [20:37]
gribble Estimated percent change in difficulty this period | 16.76214 % based on data since last change | 13.877 % based on data for last three days [20:37]
jborkl_ please take you conversations with gribble private, you are spamming the channel [20:37]
lippoper oh i can do that? [20:37]
lippoper thanks [20:37]
jborkl_ yes [20:37]
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lippoper woo, thanks! [20:37]
jurov mircea_popescu: what is this? https://blockchain.info/tx/cbe6bcc1578c03054b9fd7bcd5d374c683270b0e27ec1ce8389d4060b19c02a2 [20:38]
deadweasel any IPOs on the horizon? [20:39]
jurov you have same wallet for mpex and bitbet? [20:39]
mircea_popescu that is a buncha bets. [20:39]
ThickAsThieves i see another possible behavior correlating with lag [20:40]
ThickAsThieves large ask wall moving downawrd [20:40]
ThickAsThieves was at 190 [20:40]
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ThickAsThieves now at 188 [20:40]
ThickAsThieves could just be natural [20:40]
lippoper bots [20:41]
lippoper over the weekend there's some douche selling trading bots on reddit [20:42]
lippoper now there's a bunch of noobs making hundreds of transactions per minute [20:42]
mircea_popescu heh [20:43]
mircea_popescu capitalism! [20:44]
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lippoper heh free market [20:44]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [20:45]
gribble MtGox lag is 0 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ... nowhere, really (0 AU). [20:45]
ThickAsThieves now lets see if price falls [20:45]
lippoper nah, now it'll go up [20:45]
lippoper ;;asks 0 [20:45]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 0.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 39.3270 seconds [20:45]
lippoper ;;asks 999999999999 [20:45]
gribble There are currently 47372.398 bitcoins offered at or under 999999999999.0 USD, worth 1.42184506191e+12 USD in total. | Data vintage: 44.4670 seconds [20:45]
lippoper wow [20:45]
benkay goxlag is 0 but data vintage is 45 seconds? [20:46]
ThickAsThieves ghost lag [20:46]
ThickAsThieves lag lag [20:46]
benkay ghost lag the whip! [20:46]
lippoper Data vintage: 92.6545 seconds [20:46]
benkay ;;goxlag [20:47]
gribble MtGox lag is 0.132764 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0002660575695 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). [20:47]
lippoper ;;asks 99999999 [20:47]
gribble There are currently 47348.68 bitcoins offered at or under 99999999.0 USD, worth 422305405.304 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.2297 seconds [20:47]
deadweasel so if no coinbase, no gox, how to get btc back to fiat? [20:47]
benkay son i am confus. [20:47]
benkay buy eve credits [20:47]
lippoper bitinstant [20:47]
benkay sell for dollars [20:47]
lippoper craigslist [20:47]
ThickAsThieves 179 [20:47]
lippoper ebay lolz [20:47]
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benkay actually [20:49]
benkay you can buy bitcoins on ebay [20:49]
benkay HOHOHO [20:49]
benkay someone is selling 1 litecoin for ten bucks [20:49]
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ThickAsThieves that was the first place i tried last year [20:50]
ThickAsThieves bitcoins never came [20:50]
ThickAsThieves so i got my money back [20:50]
benkay ebay may be the best place for bitcoins in the future [20:50]
benkay they also own paypal [20:50]
benkay i've been harping on the guy who runs their android operation to bring me on to build a consumer wallet thing [20:50]
benkay has not yet bitten [20:51]
benkay although i made him filthy rich on bitcoins [20:51]
lippoper buy a bitcoin from someone with paypal for $250.00 [20:51]
lippoper then reverse the charge once it's in your wallet [20:51]
benkay a good buy at any price under 5k lippoper [20:51]
benkay ebay won't do that [20:52]
lippoper "Yes paypal customer service, I never received the bitcoin" [20:52]
benkay they actually do due dilligence [20:52]
lippoper not from what I read [20:52]
benkay nah [20:52]
lippoper even btc-e.com stopped accepting PayPal due to this reason. [20:52]
benkay you'll have to have an agreed upon address [20:52]
benkay duh [20:52]
lippoper duh [20:52]
benkay paypal's not doing *your* due dilligence [20:52]
benkay they do it when they have skin in the game [20:52]
ThickAsThieves $avg [20:53]
mpexbot ThickAsThieves: 175.99 [20:53]
lippoper they reverse charges like credit card company, sometimes even more easily. [20:53]
benkay the default opionion in credit card land is that customers are right [20:53]
benkay and vendors are evil [20:53]
benkay the expectation creates the reality [20:53]
benkay it's not entirely a bad thing, given the shit state of their technology [20:55]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7889 BTC [-] [20:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.76211 = 1.5242 BTC [-] [20:58]
benkay anyways. i would bet on paypal being a major player in the exchange business. [20:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7621 = 1.5242 BTC [-] [20:58]
benkay they're hungry for new business. [20:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.7621 = 3.0484 BTC [-] [20:58]
benkay and they could be percieved as a professional outfit that understands security. [20:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] [20:59]
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benkay dammit i shut b-a down again. [20:59]
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lippoper we're going back up ;;ticker [21:04]
lippoper ;;ticker [21:04]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 182.23401, Best ask: 182.67570, Bid-ask spread: 0.44169, Last trade: 182.67570, 24 hour volume: 100199.76586949, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 177.36797 [21:04]
ThickAsThieves still a fake price [21:04]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [21:04]
gribble MtGox lag is 34.868194 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.0698754703722 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin approximately the distance covered by Voyager 1 in one week (0.0689 AU). [21:04]
benkay "fake"? [21:05]
ThickAsThieves sorry [21:05]
ThickAsThieves fleeting [21:05]
benkay aren't all? [21:05]
ThickAsThieves ... [21:05]
ThickAsThieves i guess my point was not clear whatsoever [21:05]
benkay do you have a steady-state value you expect? [21:05]
ThickAsThieves i dont think gox is letting us see the natural price yet [21:06]
ThickAsThieves due to lag [21:06]
benkay oh i think i get it [21:06]
benkay thanks [21:06]
benkay obviously i want to fight today [21:06]
benkay *eyeroll* [21:06]
ThickAsThieves hehe [21:06]
ThickAsThieves it freezing on a price for 60s is sorta meaningless [21:06]
ThickAsThieves even when it's not lagged, it's lagged today [21:07]
benkay further hints of impending doom for gox [21:09]
benkay can has short them? [21:09]
Bugpowder short the company who's revenue is skyrocketing exponentially. have fun with that. [21:09]
benkay hm. [21:09]
benkay how do make play agains company that's horribly run and yet profitable? [21:10]
Bugpowder don't [21:11]
jcpham imsaguy everytime i get opped i do something wrong like +m the channel or try to fix the topic when it is topic locked [21:11]
Bugpowder look for other opportunities. [21:11]
jcpham plus it's ADHD chat. you can't fix it [21:11]
imsaguy aye [21:11]
imsaguy it really needs to start over [21:11]
imsaguy its lost focus [21:11]
jcpham reboot! [21:11]
imsaguy there's something to be said about -foyer [21:11]
jcpham needs ninja ops booting stupid people [21:12]
imsaguy it kept much of the OT in there [21:12]
imsaguy yep [21:12]
imsaguy but nanotube says no [21:12]
jcpham ikr [21:12]
imsaguy so it is what it is [21:12]
jcpham woohoo! [21:12]
imsaguy is it? [21:12]
jcpham not really i don't like it there [21:12]
jcpham maybe 20-50 nicks i can trust [21:13]
imsaguy :-/ [21:13]
imsaguy sucky feeling [21:13]
imsaguy maybe you need to adjust your wot? [21:13]
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jcpham which one [21:15]
jcpham i've had to create like 30 accounts to defend myself [21:15]
Bugpowder back to 12MM in bids [21:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [21:16]
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ThickAsThieves ;;asks 9999999999 [21:16]
benkay what are you catching flak for jcpham? [21:16]
jcpham nothing actually [21:16]
jcpham imsaguy and i were having a chat [21:16]
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benkay ;;goxlag [21:24]
gribble MtGox lag is 99.982987 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.200364786483 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin between Earth and Venus at their closest approach (0.254 AU). [21:24]
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guruvan venutians accepting bitcion now? [21:27]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 19 @ 0.1 = 1.9 BTC [-] [21:27]
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benkay forbes letter from the editor says we need to take the dollar seriously [21:28]
benkay i call bitcoin top when forbes letter from the editor says dollar is dead [21:28]
benkay :D [21:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 1000 @ 0.00085021 = 0.8502 BTC [+] [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 500 @ 0.00085021 = 0.4251 BTC [+] [21:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BBET] 992 @ 0.00079521 = 0.7888 BTC [-] [21:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.31 = 2.48 BTC [-] [21:33]
benkay god i love russia [21:35]
benkay if you're rich enough [21:35]
benkay you can has kremlin [21:35]
benkay but also [21:35]
benkay might get popped [21:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.29 BTC [-] [21:36]
Scrat popped like a grape [21:36]
benkay it would be nice to be king of cascadia [21:37]
benkay very little ambition in these parts [21:37]
benkay a few executions to set the tone [21:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5100 @ 0.00065422 = 3.3365 BTC [-] [21:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 475 @ 0.00065873 = 0.3129 BTC [+] [21:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.0006607 = 0.8589 BTC [+] [21:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5525 @ 0.00066071 = 3.6504 BTC [+] [21:42]
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MJR_ back to 188 already [21:43]
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btcccc while you waiting for BTC to jump hugely again you can play a new game that you can win up to 17X your bet by trying to walk through a minefield. also freeplay option so you dont have to bet! http://www.satoshi-karoshi.com/?r=10670 [21:53]
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benkay GAMBLE TO NEXT LEVEL [21:55]
benkay don't go... [21:56]
benkay we were just starting to have fun... [21:56]
iz play a game where you walk through a minefield? how is that fun? [21:56]
benkay it's gambling [21:57]
benkay don't try and reason [21:57]
benkay just take the fools monies. [21:57]
benkay fools' [21:57]
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iz hard to take their money if they don't want to play [21:58]
benkay *shrug* [21:58]
benkay a small fraction of the world is a lot of people [21:58]
deadweasel .2% of people reply to nigerian scammers [21:59]
iz yes, and a large fraction of the world is even more people [21:59]
deadweasel it's enough [21:59]
benkay oh man i do [21:59]
benkay they never write back, though. [21:59]
iz send them bitcoins and then sell them technical support in USD [22:00]
benkay wat [22:00]
benkay acquire cryptocurrencies [22:00]
benkay disregard fiat [22:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-MINING] 2 @ 0.021 = 0.042 BTC [-] [22:01]
ThickAsThieves do you like bitcoin? do you like super mario kart? then you'll LOVE SatoshiYoshi.com! [22:02]
MJR_ I like both those things!!! [22:03]
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benkay let me give you my money! [22:03]
ThickAsThieves good idea! [22:03]
MJR_ there was nothing there? [22:03]
MJR_ T_T [22:03]
ThickAsThieves there should be an .exe file you need to run [22:04]
benkay yuss [22:04]
benkay dudes i saw a thing about using javascript to reprogram routers yesterday [22:05]
benkay from user browsers [22:05]
MJR_ benkay: sounds cool [22:05]
MJR_ you can do the same with UPnP [22:05]
benkay i love breaking things. [22:05]
MJR_ who doesn't [22:05]
ThickAsThieves i like making things [22:06]
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MJR_ both can be fun [22:06]
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MJR_ ;;ticker [22:07]
MJR_ ;;bc,24hprc [22:08]
gribble 177.01 [22:08]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 186.06253, Best ask: 186.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.93746, Last trade: 186.99999, 24 hour volume: 102774.98338597, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 178.38721 [22:08]
deadweasel fucking linksys routers. totally unprotected. [22:08]
deadweasel add a '/' to any admin url to see source code, lol! [22:09]
deadweasel print password file with simple request [22:09]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.794 BTC [+] [22:13]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 1.209 = 4.836 BTC [+] [22:21]
lippoper ;;goxlag [22:22]
gribble MtGox lag is 3.534177 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00708245113738 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Jupiter to its largest moon, Ganymede (0.007155 AU). [22:22]
lippoper ;;ticker [22:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 185.30001, Best ask: 185.95999, Bid-ask spread: 0.65998, Last trade: 185.30001, 24 hour volume: 102926.03575566, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 178.47044 [22:22]
lippoper $avg [22:23]
mpexbot lippoper: 177.37 [22:23]
lippoper is that the real price? [22:23]
lippoper around 177-179 ? [22:23]
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thestringpuller ;;asks 195 [22:25]
gribble There are currently 7494.7663 bitcoins offered at or under 195.0 USD, worth 1443781.28381 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0012 seconds [22:25]
thestringpuller ;;bids 170 [22:25]
gribble There are currently 9839.9499 bitcoins demanded at or over 170.0 USD, worth 1748284.48795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.0379 seconds [22:25]
dub ;ticker --high [22:26]
dub ;;nethash [22:27]
gribble 62837.3281404 [22:27]
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topace|2 !ticker h him [22:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.89000000 / 1.92735294 / 1.93000000 (17 shares, 32.76500000 BTC), 7D: 1.82000000 / 1.90417629 / 2.05990000 (97 shares, 184.70510000 BTC), 30D: 1.41000000 / 1.85736363 / 2.08000000 (693 shares, 1287.15299230 BTC) [22:29]
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lippoper ;;ticker [22:34]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.89002, Best ask: 189.80261, Bid-ask spread: 0.91259, Last trade: 189.80261, 24 hour volume: 104076.87236816, 24 hour low: 157.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 178.63555 [22:34]
benkay thickasthieves making things is important and cool [22:34]
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bVector so how long would it take to make your money back on dividends on sdice stocks? [22:35]
ThickAsThieves a lifetime these days [22:35]
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mod6 ;;bc,blocks [22:41]
gribble 230331 [22:41]
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ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [22:46]
gribble 62888.8850858 [22:46]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [22:46]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 8839306.76485 based on data since last change | 8785341.70019 based on data for last three days [22:46]
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jurov dat discussion... http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1bxakb/the_mens_guide_to_showering/ [22:46]
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assbot [BTCTC] [LTC-MINING] 1 @ 0.24001 BTC [+] [22:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.13789 BTC [+] [22:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.1379 = 0.2758 BTC [+] [22:55]
mod6 ;;tslb [22:58]
gribble Time since last block: 47 minutes and 53 seconds [22:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6250 @ 0.00065356 = 4.0848 BTC [-] [22:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00066071 = 6.1116 BTC [+] [23:02]
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mod6 ;;tslb [23:08]
gribble Time since last block: 3 minutes and 2 seconds [23:08]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.789 = 1.578 BTC [-] [23:13]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 28 @ 0.795 = 22.26 BTC [+] [23:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 998 @ 0.01 = 9.98 BTC [+] [23:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 5 @ 0.01 = 0.05 BTC [+] [23:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 100 @ 0.01 = 1 BTC [+] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1481 @ 0.00066071 = 0.9785 BTC [+] [23:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6007 @ 0.00066211 = 3.9773 BTC [+] [23:16]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 8 @ 0.1024 = 0.8192 BTC [+] [23:40]
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jborkl_ ;;goxlag [23:58]
gribble MtGox lag is 0.361659 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.000724760586664 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin to the other side of the Earth, along the surface (0.0001339 AU). [23:58]
jborkl_ ;;ticker [23:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 188.25001, Best ask: 188.41000, Bid-ask spread: 0.15999, Last trade: 188.25001, 24 hour volume: 106530.94142469, 24 hour low: 160.00000, 24 hour high: 194.90000, 24 hour vwap: 179.70143 [23:58]
thestringpuller quiet for how volatole of a day it was [23:58]
jurov everyone is tired from it :D [23:59]
jborkl_ mtgox socket has been down for 85 minutes [23:59]
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