Forum logs for 07 Jun 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84200 @ 0.00037283 = 31.3923 BTC [+] {2} | [00:04] |
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decimation | !up ascii_modem | [00:27] |
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ascii_modem | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1156390 << nah. we're at the stage where 'aqueducts? gtfo, we drink piss here, and like it' | [00:28] |
assbot | Logged on 06-06-2015 22:35:12; trinque: seems like we're at the point that you could pick anything to manufacture in the tech sector, and provided you *actually produce the thing named on the box* you'd be the greatest product in that space | [00:28] |
mod6 | hi ascii_modem. I've got igprof built, and i tested it with the test code in the COMPILE.txt file. i've got your igprof_hooks patch applied to the v0.5.3.1-RELEASE source, and i've built it dynamically. | [00:30] |
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ascii_modem | questions remain? | [00:31] |
ascii_modem | for operation, see ml post | [00:31] |
mod6 | I've started it up, with a command (pasted above); however, I'm not 100% sure if it's running properly. the size of the log doesn't seem to be growing at all, and not much is dumped when i run: ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531_heapdump_003.txt ( for example ) | [00:32] |
mod6 | do you got time for you to get a full breakdown from me? i can put one together quick. | [00:32] |
ascii_modem | sure | [00:32] |
mod6 | cool thx | [00:32] |
ascii_modem | dpaste | [00:32] |
decimation | ascii_modem: did you see my term pics | [00:32] |
ascii_modem | btw you need igprof on your box | [00:33] |
ascii_modem | decimation: aha. mystery asic | [00:33] |
decimation | heh yeah I figured you would like that | [00:33] |
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decimation | probably some kind of serial i/o thingy | [00:33] |
ascii_modem | any idea re: arch? | [00:33] |
decimation | yeah main cpu is 80186 | [00:34] |
ascii_modem | x86? | [00:34] |
mod6 | http://dpaste.com/26EBTJX.txt | [00:35] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2awHN ) | [00:35] |
mod6 | ascii_modem: ^^ | [00:35] |
ascii_modem | what's in the output proper ? | [00:36] |
mod6 | that's all i have. output proper? | [00:36] |
mod6 | nothing is echo'd out to the terminal. | [00:36] |
ascii_modem | ah you forgot to trigger it | [00:37] |
mod6 | ok. what did i miss? | [00:37] |
ascii_modem | read the ml post again | [00:37] |
ascii_modem | gotta ask it with rpc cmd to take each dumpshot | [00:39] |
decimation | ascii_modem: yeah it's like the 8088 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_80186 | [00:39] |
assbot | Intel 80186 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhfUvW ) | [00:39] |
ascii_modem | decimation: familiar, used to be common on scsi cards etc | [00:39] |
mod6 | <+ascii_modem> read the ml post again << ok just re-read for the 3rd time. im /pretty/ sure my execution command (first line of that last dpaste ^^) looks correct. can you confirm? | [00:40] |
mod6 | <+ascii_modem> gotta ask it with rpc cmd to take each dumpshot << when I take the dump it just puts this one line in there... | [00:40] |
ascii_modem | this was not in the paste | [00:41] |
mod6 | P=(ID=11559 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000) | [00:41] |
mod6 | sorry, i should have thrown that in | [00:41] |
ascii_modem | how precisely did you trigger the dump | [00:41] |
mod6 | im doing this like this: | [00:41] |
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mod6 | http://dpaste.com/05TR557.txt | [00:42] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2aRdp ) | [00:42] |
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ascii_modem | this rpc command must be given to -already running- bitcoind | [00:43] |
mod6 | i gotta just have one silly thing out of place is my guess, but i can't tell what it is yet. | [00:43] |
ascii_modem | like 'getinfo' | [00:44] |
decimation | ascii_modem: interestingly the thing has a 'firmware download' feature even though the main program appears to be on the EPROM | [00:44] |
mod6 | it does. | [00:44] |
mod6 | i can show that, gimme a sec. | [00:44] |
ascii_modem | mod6: use my exact flags | [00:44] |
mod6 | ok | [00:44] |
mod6 | http://dpaste.com/1TBNJBQ.txt | [00:46] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2b8gG ) | [00:46] |
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mod6 | my data dir isn't under /root/.bitcoin so every time I invoke bitcoind i need to tell it where to look for its stuff. | [00:46] |
ascii_modem | with what flags was original instance running ? | [00:47] |
mod6 | (19:37) <+mod6> it was executed like so: `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -daemon -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log &` | [00:48] |
ascii_modem | ditch the -daemon | [00:48] |
mod6 | ah | [00:48] |
mod6 | ok. i'll try again :] | [00:48] |
ascii_modem | same flags as mine plz | [00:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58000 @ 0.00034935 = 20.2623 BTC [-] {2} | [00:50] |
mod6 | ok, started back up... looking ... | [00:52] |
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mod6 | hmm. this time it didn't spit me out a `igprof.mp.gz`. the log file seems to be growing slowly though. | [00:55] |
mod6 | i'll put together a rundown | [00:55] |
ascii_modem | what of snapshots | [00:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44251 @ 0.00035233 = 15.591 BTC [+] | [00:55] |
ascii_modem | those are the necessary thing | [00:56] |
ascii_modem | otherwise 'valgrind' would've sufficed | [00:56] |
ascii_modem | forget the valgrind-style run log, it is worthless | [00:57] |
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decimation | !up ascii_modem | [00:58] |
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ascii_modem | ty | [00:58] |
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mod6 | http://dpaste.com/0HRDCKZ.txt | [00:59] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F2bSSS ) | [00:59] |
mike_c | closer, but still not there :) | [00:59] |
ascii_modem | really don't need the run log | [01:00] |
mike_c | ;;later tell jurov new build runs, but crashes after launch screen. | [01:00] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:00] |
mod6 | yeah, the strange part is that im missing that `igprof.mp.gz` | [01:00] |
ascii_modem | this is not valgrind | [01:00] |
mod6 | ok so that doesn't matter? | [01:00] |
mike_c | crash is in crystalspace-2.1-vc10.dll . ugh. | [01:00] |
ascii_modem | see what you get when triggered snapshot plz | [01:01] |
mod6 | im not sure what you mean exactly? | [01:01] |
mod6 | is that a flag for igprof? | [01:01] |
ascii_modem | 1) bitcoind is running under igprof | [01:01] |
ascii_modem | 2) you run 'bitcoind profileheapdump filename.txt' | [01:03] |
ascii_modem | this causes running process to shit out a dump | [01:03] |
ascii_modem | rpc command, like getinfo | [01:04] |
mod6 | ah i see what you mean. ok. | [01:04] |
mod6 | yeah, i did that in my last paste: ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531-heapdump-002.txt | [01:04] |
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mod6 | there was just one line in that file: P=(ID=11738 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000) | [01:05] |
ascii_modem | instance was running when you did this? | [01:05] |
mod6 | yup | [01:05] |
ascii_modem | with what flags ? | [01:06] |
mod6 | i can do another, sec. | [01:06] |
ascii_modem | plz use same! flags as i did | [01:06] |
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mod6 | http://dpaste.com/052M247.txt | [01:08] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ghjkio ) | [01:08] |
mike_c | ;;later tell jurov deterministic behavior for the win. I ran it again and it worked.. thanks! | [01:08] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:08] |
mod6 | yup, i'm using the same flags exactly. except I need to add the -datadir flag. | [01:08] |
mod6 | is that flag a deal-breaker? | [01:08] |
ascii_modem | gotta run under igprof !!! | [01:08] |
mod6 | oook. | [01:09] |
ascii_modem | the bitcoind running instance | [01:09] |
ascii_modem | not the rpc cmd | [01:09] |
mod6 | your email just says this: | [01:09] |
mod6 | To disgorge a heap profile snapshot at a given moment: | [01:09] |
mod6 | ./bitcoind profileheapdump heapdumpfilename | [01:09] |
ascii_modem | 100% correct | [01:09] |
ascii_modem | the running instance of bitcoind, and only it | [01:10] |
ascii_modem | must be run via igprof | [01:10] |
mod6 | but your saying that i need to do like `nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin profileheapdump v0531-heapdump-004.txt`? | [01:10] |
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ascii_modem | nohup igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log & | [01:11] |
ascii_modem | mod6: nooooooo | [01:12] |
ascii_modem | do you understand above line from my post ? | [01:12] |
ascii_modem | it spins up an instance of bitcoind-under-igprof | [01:13] |
mod6 | <+ascii_modem> nohup igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log & <<< this is exactly how im executing to begin with, then bitcoind is running as such (via `ps ax`): 11738 pts/2 SLl 0:17 ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -profileheap | [01:13] |
ascii_modem | which can, 1, 100, million, times, be asked to take a dump | [01:13] |
mod6 | well my exact invocation is: nohup $INSTAREA/bin/igprof -d -mp -z -o igprof.mp.gz ./bitcoind -datadir=/mnt/btc-dev/.bitcoin -profileheap >& igtest.mp.log & | [01:13] |
mod6 | that -datadir flag shouldn't matter. | [01:14] |
ascii_modem | mod6: this is running now? | [01:14] |
mod6 | yeah | [01:14] |
ascii_modem | and dump results in turd? | [01:14] |
mod6 | well, i just found a file in hee, just generated: cat igprof.bitcoind.11807.1433650120.286376.gz | gunzip | [01:16] |
mod6 | P=(ID=11807 N=(./bitcoind) T=0.008000) | [01:16] |
mod6 | but that's all thats in there. | [01:16] |
ascii_modem | then i can finally pronounce your setup broken | [01:17] |
ascii_modem | build igprof from source (i will share mine later) on a gentoo box | [01:17] |
ascii_modem | but only -then- bitcoind | [01:17] |
mod6 | ok. i did build it from source. no problems were encouterd. followed the COMPILE.txt exactly. | [01:18] |
mod6 | *shrug* | [01:18] |
ascii_modem | ipso facto broken | [01:18] |
mod6 | ok. anyway, thanks for your time. | [01:18] |
ascii_modem | we may end up passing around qemu images after all | [01:19] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67966 @ 0.0003544 = 24.0872 BTC [-] {3} | [06:33] |
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mircea_popescu | punkman comin' right up. | [06:33] |
jurov | wiithout any changes | [06:34] |
mircea_popescu | jurov lol wtf is this, windows is now a mammal ? | [06:34] |
mircea_popescu | "hurts the first coupla times baby, but then it goes oiled" | [06:34] |
jurov | haha i guess | [06:35] |
punkman | jurov, yes it worked after I uppercased it | [06:35] |
punkman | will Eulora run on older laptops with linux? | [06:36] |
cazalla | ran fine here without any changes | [06:36] |
jurov | punkman it needs decent 3d support, if the laptop has old intel card it works but is a pain | [06:36] |
mircea_popescu | punkman i had it run on a very old laptop, but it was very slow. | [06:37] |
jurov | and eats much cpu too, but i hope that can be improved, there is not reason for that | [06:37] |
mircea_popescu | jurov http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows << so where does luser click ? | [06:38] |
assbot | Eulora for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1cE14DE ) | [06:38] |
cazalla | that whale monument lags the fuck out of me | [06:38] |
jurov | not for lusers yet | [06:39] |
mircea_popescu | incidentally : the client is entirely open. if anyone feels like making patches they'll certainly be reviewed. | [06:39] |
punkman | jurov, also mingw/msys can be deselected before installer starts installing | [06:39] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: i thought when you put it on minigame.bz, then i remove that provisional part altogether | [06:40] |
jurov | pukman i see | [06:41] |
mircea_popescu | jurov put what/where ? | [06:41] |
jurov | the files i uploaded | [06:42] |
jurov | what will be one with them? | [06:42] |
punkman | http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/19/cannes-backlash-high-heels-emily-blunt-flat-shoes | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | what i want you to do is create a page for your own distribution packages much like the one on binaries | [06:42] |
assbot | Cannes faces backlash after women reportedly barred from film screening for not wearing high heels | Film | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Iue79i ) | [06:42] |
mircea_popescu | then i can link that | [06:42] |
jurov | ah, put the manifest into html. ic | [06:43] |
mircea_popescu | jurov it can be in any format you wish, including txt, but maintained by you. | [06:43] |
mircea_popescu | it'd be a horribru arrangement for me to have to keep changing mine every time you need yours changed. | [06:43] |
jurov | .txt is already there, you can publish it and i'll add html version soon | [06:44] |
mircea_popescu | can i have a link to it ? | [06:44] |
jurov | it's on your ftp server | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | dawg... | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | put the text file somewhere accessible and link it | [06:45] |
jurov | so you expected i keep html on explo.yt an only binaries on minigame.bz? | [06:45] |
jurov | okay that make s sense | [06:45] |
mircea_popescu | well normally that's how myeah | [06:46] |
mircea_popescu | jurov for the record, http://minigame.bz/eulora/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z http://minigame.bz/eulora/cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe | [06:48] |
assbot | 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueIHP ) | [06:48] |
assbot | 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueIHU ) | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | eh wtf. | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | oh i mean | [06:48] |
mircea_popescu | jurov for the record, http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/Eulora-June12015-win32.7z http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe | [06:49] |
jurov | http://explo.yt/public/MANIFEST-0.1.0.txt | [06:49] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1IueNvn ) | [06:49] |
jurov | deedbot- http://explo.yt/public/MANIFEST-0.1.0.txt | [06:49] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuePTZ ) | [06:49] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [06:49] |
jurov | http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows updated | [06:52] |
assbot | Eulora 0.1.0 for Windows - serialized delusions ... ( http://bit.ly/1IufcOl ) | [06:52] |
jurov | going afk, will linkify and improve it later | [06:52] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/jurov-manifest-0.1.0.html << fify | [06:55] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1IufBAn ) | [06:55] |
jurov | tyvm! | [06:56] |
mircea_popescu | i had added a dot after #eulora and then spent 5 minutes trying to figure out wtf why dfoes it say bad signature | [06:57] |
mircea_popescu | then i was like a! wait... you can't copyedit gpg signed matter! | [06:57] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120200 @ 0.00035982 = 43.2504 BTC [+] {2} | [07:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00035403 = 3.5049 BTC [-] | [07:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00035113 = 6.2501 BTC [-] | [07:22] |
mircea_popescu | punkman http://dpaste.com/2Z7A58Y | [07:27] |
assbot | dpaste: 2Z7A58Y ... ( http://bit.ly/1G3BP8E ) | [07:27] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156512 << the notion that anyone fucking asked them... | [07:29] |
assbot | Logged on 07-06-2015 02:41:20; williamdunne: I know, yes, it does look odd that I'm booking a flight from Prague to Bucharest | [07:29] |
mircea_popescu | so annoying. | [07:29] |
mircea_popescu | and now... ima be off... playing my game | [07:32] |
mircea_popescu | lalalala an' a bottle o' rum. | [07:33] |
mircea_popescu | which they don't have here but the cognac is passible. | [07:33] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66918 @ 0.00034924 = 23.3704 BTC [-] {3} | [08:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87765 @ 0.00035307 = 30.9872 BTC [+] | [08:57] |
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punkman | jurov, the uppercase thing was fluke, it still crashes a bunch of times before it works | [09:39] |
punkman | ;;later tell chetty slightly annoying that we can't paste on login form | [09:41] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [09:41] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46200 @ 0.00035146 = 16.2375 BTC [-] | [11:29] |
mircea_popescu | ;;later tell ScottJ_ i live in buenos aires yo. | [11:32] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [11:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9952 @ 0.00035686 = 3.5515 BTC [+] | [11:44] |
scoopbot_revived | The "Follow your heart" myth. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/07/the-follow-your-heart-myth/ | [11:50] |
mircea_popescu | http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mblyts2T0m1rejj40o1_1280.jpg << the heart in question | [11:52] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GiG69E ) | [11:52] |
shinohai | The heart isn't red enough, may need more spanking to ensure max crimson. | [11:53] |
mircea_popescu | max crimson lol | [11:53] |
scoopbot_revived | Subject: Important notice from SEC http://trilema.com/2015/subject-important-notice-from-sec/ | [11:54] |
shinohai | scottrade.tk ? seriously? | [11:57] |
shinohai | And the spelling is atrocious .... obvious troll/phish | [11:59] |
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pete_dushenski | ;;bc,stats | [12:07] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 359861 | Current Difficulty: 4.758959115362501E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 360863 | Next Difficulty In: 1002 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 19 hours, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [12:07] |
pete_dushenski | ;;later tell decimation thanks for putting me on to that bloody shovel blog ! you'll find it quoted in the most recent contravex | [12:09] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [12:09] |
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pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-06-2015#1153802 << if these kids knew their asses from their heads, they'd be most scared of the ex-military guys in #b-a | [12:11] |
assbot | Logged on 04-06-2015 13:57:30; jurov: https://8ch.net/btc/res/332.html#341 bingo's famous | [12:11] |
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pete_dushenski | not that i'm volunteering to fight BingoBoingo, but mats or adlai would be the one's i'd watch out for. | [12:12] |
pete_dushenski | was there anyone else here who did a military stint that i'm forgetting ? | [12:13] |
pete_dushenski | and on the chin-ups-as-a-measure-of-fitness front, i can currently do... 8 | [12:14] |
pete_dushenski | few more weeks of summer weather and 10 is very much acheivable. | [12:14] |
pete_dushenski | it's actually nuts how seasonal life in the arctic is | [12:15] |
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ben_vulpes | how so nuts? you're far away from the equator. | [12:15] |
pete_dushenski | 5 months of fair weather (may-sept) where i can be active as all hell, and then 7 months where i eat carbs and go soft | [12:15] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: life in the arctic is nuts compared to life on the internet, where every day is just like the last. | [12:16] |
ben_vulpes | i'm thinking futsal for next winter | [12:17] |
pete_dushenski | like indoor soccer ? | [12:17] |
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ben_vulpes | smaller teams, smaller balls, smaller field but more or less. | [12:18] |
* | ben_vulpes attempts to compile crystalspace on os x for the third time today | [12:19] |
pete_dushenski | 5 players *including* goalkeeper eh. | [12:19] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: lotsa weird dependencies ? | [12:20] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42539 @ 0.00035146 = 14.9508 BTC [-] | [12:23] |
ben_vulpes | i don't think they're terribly weird, but what do i know | [12:23] |
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ben_vulpes | the first fun bit was when the configure script for chetty's specified version of cs actually asked me for the password to crystal@crystalspace3d.org's account... | [12:24] |
ben_vulpes | was trying to package and upload an msi or some other such madness | [12:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50111 @ 0.00035095 = 17.5865 BTC [-] | [12:25] |
ben_vulpes | now i'm just trying to compile the latest | [12:25] |
ben_vulpes | if this fails i'll download a stable tarball and try that | [12:25] |
ben_vulpes | i'm not even certain that anyone builds this on os x regularly | [12:25] |
pete_dushenski | sounds like god's work. | [12:28] |
pete_dushenski | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38w53p/kraken_bitcoin_withdrawals_keep_pending/ << ruhroh | [12:30] |
assbot | Kraken bitcoin withdrawals keep pending : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwMLPT ) | [12:30] |
pete_dushenski | "On Thursday, the US Office of Personnel Management (OPM) confirmed that hackers broke into its servers. A data center in Denver was compromised, we're told, which resulted in the loss of personal information on four million current and former employees; the records could date back as far as 1985." | [12:34] |
pete_dushenski | ^unearthing all the "i was just doing my job"ers. | [12:34] |
pete_dushenski | retired on not, y'all usian bureaucrats are so fucking guilty. | [12:35] |
pete_dushenski | "The agency is offering 18 months of identity-theft protection and credit monitoring services for those who have had their personal details lifted." << i cannot possibly comprehend what's meant by "identity theft protection" | [12:36] |
ben_vulpes | i think i have 3 concurrent "identity theft protection" contracts | [12:37] |
ben_vulpes | pete_dushenski: you're familiar with asciilifeform's story about sponsors of foreigners in the states taking mortgages out in the foreigners names? | [12:38] |
pete_dushenski | hm nope. | [12:38] |
pete_dushenski | sounds plausible enough though | [12:38] |
pete_dushenski | "A Spanish woman has filed a lawsuit against eBay for the right to sell the Sun, El Mundo reports." << an answer to that old question : "what is the utility of the sun to you ?" | [12:42] |
pete_dushenski | i guess it's about 10k euroes | [12:43] |
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pete_dushenski | the reg's tim worstall is at it again : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/07/so_why_didnt_quantitative_easing_produce_huge_inflation/ | [12:52] |
assbot | So why the hell didn't quantitative easing produce HUGE inflation? • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwPeKb ) | [12:52] |
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pete_dushenski | ""So, if we increase the money supply then we'll get lots more inflation. This didn't happen, or as I'll point out, did in fact, so obviously those who were crying wolf were wrong" | [12:53] |
pete_dushenski | "A quick historical divergence: it's much more useful to study the 19th Century recessions to see this, as at that point M, money, was determined by the supply of gold. And yes, recessions really were accompanied by significant deflation and also falls in output and no, no one really liked that at all. Which is why this idea that Bitcoin has only a single total amount that will ever be issued is not to the taste | [12:53] |
pete_dushenski | of central bankers. Because it ties hands when dealing with this specific problem." | [12:53] |
pete_dushenski | anyways, i hung up worstall once before when he tried to make a value proposition for facebook : http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/23/how-the-adage-time-is-money-and-the-existence-of-google-prove-that-facebook-is-worth-less-than-dust/ | [12:54] |
assbot | How the adage “time is money” and the existence of Google+ prove that Facebook is worth less than dust. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwPzfW ) | [12:54] |
pete_dushenski | he's probably too old and retarded to bother inviting here for a little conversation | [12:55] |
pete_dushenski | but maybe one day he'll stumble upon this corner of the world, and we'll have the logs to start with | [12:55] |
pete_dushenski | and now i'm off to meatspace ! ciao !! | [12:56] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48021 @ 0.00035292 = 16.9476 BTC [+] {2} | [12:58] |
ben_vulpes | crystalspace 2.0 confirmed to be broken on os x | [13:06] |
ben_vulpes | unrelatedly, the navy is gearing up for its own f35: http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/06/congress-tries-to-hide-a-submarine-000069 | [13:06] |
assbot | Congress tries to hide a submarine ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwQYTP ) | [13:06] |
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ben_vulpes | dude what is the damn point of a sub | [13:07] |
ben_vulpes | incredibly expensive | [13:07] |
ben_vulpes | incredibly vulnerable | [13:07] |
ben_vulpes | hugely visible on sonar i imagine | [13:07] |
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jurov | [13:31] | |
ben_vulpes | personal verification. | [13:33] |
ben_vulpes | downloaded tarball, ran ./configure, configure script asks for password for crystal@crystalspace3d.org , fails to produce jam or makefiles | [13:34] |
ben_vulpes | have also done the same thing with various svn checkouts | [13:34] |
jurov | do you have osx system i can remote to? | [13:35] |
jurov | or anyone? | [13:35] |
ben_vulpes | chetty's going to post me a tarball to try, i expect it to behave the precisely same way | [13:35] |
ben_vulpes | nope. | [13:35] |
ben_vulpes | i'm going to go stand in the sun and burn the open source off of my face. | [13:35] |
ben_vulpes | and hands. | [13:35] |
ben_vulpes | i just keep failing/to compile/crystal space/on my mac/ooh ooh ooh (to the tune of https://youtu.be/Urdlvw0SSEc?t=49) | [13:38] |
assbot | Alicia Keys - Fallin' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dolmlq ) | [13:38] |
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mircea_popescu | o.O | [13:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102854 @ 0.00035961 = 36.9873 BTC [+] {2} | [13:56] |
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mircea_popescu | blockchain down again huh | [15:23] |
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kakobrekla | heh | [15:24] |
* | Adlai also gets anxious when it takes more than 10 minutes to confirm | [15:24] |
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decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-06-2015#1156812 < pete in the us this often is a scam. Because none of the banks actually use a WoT to determine creditworthiness (like they did in the past), they use a silly credit score system | [15:53] |
assbot | Logged on 07-06-2015 15:33:03; pete_dushenski: "The agency is offering 18 months of identity-theft protection and credit monitoring services for those who have had their personal details lifted." << i cannot possibly comprehend what's meant by "identity theft protection" | [15:53] |
decimation | so all you need to do to apply for credit is to know someone's personal identity details, mainly their social security number | [15:54] |
decimation | the 'theft protection' generally are the same agencies selling the credit scores also selling you the 'service' of telling you when someone applies for credit in your name | [15:55] |
decimation | you know, 'that's an aweful nice score you got there, would be a shame if something happened to it' | [15:55] |
decimation | how this helps protect individual bureaucrats from Chinese designs is a mystery | [15:56] |
shinohai | http://www.wired.com/2010/05/lifelock-identity-theft/ <<< like this? | [16:01] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1RVRZ9j ) | [16:01] |
decimation | heh yeah | [16:01] |
decimation | the other part of the scam is to get you to subscribe to a 'service' that does very little for you | [16:02] |
decimation | I suspect many of these 'free giveaways' for credit monitoring are merely trojan horse marketing schemes | [16:02] |
trinque | mod6: ey, I'm building a basic gentoo in a VM today. if it bakes well, I'll image it and give you a torrent. | [16:03] |
trinque | also writing up my steps, not using the handbook | [16:04] |
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decimation | ;;later tell pete_dushenski no problem, that blog is one of the few that are fairly readable in the 'reactionary sphere'. top commenters too. | [16:07] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [16:07] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73300 @ 0.00037192 = 27.2617 BTC [+] {2} | [16:07] |
decimation | for instance, Handle points out: "See, e.g., this updated criterion for military officer (and NCO!) evaluation (only now becoming a big deal, since one is no longer able to slide with ?supports the program? type of bullet points). This is the Army version, but the same policy is now implemented across all the armed services." | [16:08] |
decimation | " ? raters will assess how well the rated officer or NCO fostered a climate of dignity and respect and adhered to the Sexual harassment/Assault Response and Prevention (SHARP) Program. " | [16:08] |
mod6 | trinque: hey thanks! | [16:10] |
trinque | np | [16:12] |
trinque | coming at it from the perspective that you do everything not related to booting the thing *after* booting the thing | [16:12] |
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decimation | https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2kde6s_he-is-not-equal-never-will-be_news < Harry Lee's (now dead 'king' of singapore) speech on equality | [16:41] |
assbot | He is not equal, never will be - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1eWLDbv ) | [16:41] |
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decimation | http://nullprogram.com/blog/2015/05/15/ < how to thread without the pthread library | [16:57] |
assbot | Raw Linux Threads via System Calls « null program ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOlbuS ) | [16:57] |
decimation | ^ perhaps there is an awakening here, folks are realizing it make sense to 'live in the bedrock' rather than accept the shit-stack in userland without question | [16:58] |
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Petit_Dejeuner | Thanks. I don't have much to say though. | [17:05] |
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oglafbot | http://oglaf.com/untamed/ | [17:18] |
assbot | Untamed Devotion: Endless Beginnings 3 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmKZv ) | [17:18] |
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jurov | http://www.explo.yt/eulora/eulora_33.jpg party in full swing | [17:18] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmQjX ) | [17:18] |
decimation | lol story on what happened with moldbug's "uninvitation" was censored on hacker news http://hnrankings.info/9674992/ | [17:20] |
assbot | Hacker News Rankings ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOmV7p ) | [17:20] |
decimation | "However, in this case it is clear to me that your opinions in areas outside your talk are concerning enough for a significantly large number of attendees that those reactions are overshadowing the talk and acting as a distraction for launching the conference as a whole." | [17:20] |
decimation | note the particularly oblique angle here: it's not that yarvin's opinions are bad, it's that his group can't handle them, see | [17:21] |
decimation | it would be a real shame if you showed up at our meeting of the jacobin club | [17:21] |
decimation | "I can handle it, but you never know about those sans qulot" | [17:22] |
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Adlai | he even specifically distances himself from the content ("I have not personally read them"), what apparently his audience is unable to do | [17:37] |
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trinque | mod6: it lives | [17:47] |
decimation | Adlai: heh yeah | [17:48] |
decimation | https://improprietaryinfluence.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/a-strange-loop/ < another blog on the topic > "What should have happened was the activists being told to get lost five years ago, when the ?inclusiveness? crusade began. Neutral technologists, if they knew then what they will know eventually, would have done that." | [17:48] |
assbot | A Strange Loop | Improprietary Influence ... ( http://bit.ly/1KOoQZB ) | [17:48] |
decimation | " But they believed the lies. As a result, they now have negligibly greater contributions from ?the oppressed?, but they are losing out on contributions from conservatives?extreme conservatives now, but moderate conservatives later. In the end they will have nothing." | [17:49] |
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danielpbarron | !up julmac | [19:14] |
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danielpbarron | !up kdomanski | [19:14] |
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danielpbarron | !up mariorz | [19:14] |
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danielpbarron | !up MCM-Mike | [19:14] |
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danielpbarron | !up NewLiberty | [19:15] |
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danielpbarron | !up ryan-c | [19:15] |
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danielpbarron | !up warptangent | [19:16] |
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danielpbarron | !up weex | [19:16] |
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danielpbarron | !up yang | [19:16] |
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danielpbarron | ^ all the users idling in here with a key registered and 0 in assbot's l2 | [19:19] |
mod6 | <+trinque> mod6: it lives << ahh cool. got it workin? | [19:20] |
trinque | yeah, got a torrent of the image too | [19:21] |
trinque | fiddling with my network such that I can seed it | [19:21] |
trinque | boots a kernel which should be equivalent to the livecd (genkernel), grub2, eudev instead of udev, root has password "gentoo", all other decisions (logger, cron, so on) left to be made | [19:22] |
trinque | a few things (pulseaudio, systemd) removed by USE in make.conf | [19:23] |
jurov | trinque, livecd with eulora autostarted? | [19:26] |
ben_vulpes | neat, danielpbarron | [19:26] |
trinque | jurov: exercise left to reader | [19:26] |
trinque | mod6: ping ya with a torrent in a bit | [19:27] |
trinque | image is signed by my key | [19:27] |
ben_vulpes | neat, trinque | [19:30] |
ben_vulpes | ALL I HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE IS NEATS | [19:30] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32554 @ 0.00035287 = 11.4873 BTC [+] | [19:45] |
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Adlai | how do you like your whisky, ben_vulpes | [19:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36900 @ 0.00035127 = 12.9619 BTC [-] | [19:55] |
ben_vulpes | on the rocks | [19:58] |
mod6 | trinque: thanks! | [20:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92700 @ 0.00034618 = 32.0909 BTC [-] | [20:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00034618 = 19.3515 BTC [-] | [20:24] |
shinohai | http://41.media.tumblr.com/ce6c62fe7f1bc60d2a1e5698ad853e76/tumblr_nit4lkwhYG1smjc75o1_1280.jpg | [20:25] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gjy6VG ) | [20:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85400 @ 0.00035127 = 29.9985 BTC [+] | [20:27] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 137250 @ 0.00034618 = 47.5132 BTC [-] | [20:33] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57550 @ 0.00034618 = 19.9227 BTC [-] | [20:40] |
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mircea_popescu | !up referredbyloper | [20:53] |
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trinque | mod6: see if you can pull this down http://dpaste.com/2AH328W.txt | [20:58] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1MgDJEq ) | [20:58] |
trinque | that's a signed torrent file | [20:59] |
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scoopbot_revived | Eulora! http://trilema.com/2015/eulora/ | [21:50] |
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mod6 | trinque: i've got it, thanks | [22:26] |
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danielpbarron | !up NewLiberty | [22:58] |
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NewLiberty | Is it ironic that you !up me, when it is your -1 rating that prevents me from doing so myself? | [23:01] |
NewLiberty | You're just making more work for yourself. lol | [23:01] |
NewLiberty | Looks like assbot changed from needing >=0 to needing >0 for !up | [23:02] |
danielpbarron | i think it was always that way | [23:05] |
danielpbarron | do you still think a hard fork is "acceptable for expediency's sake" ? | [23:06] |
decimation | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9676630 < the shit behind HN ratings hits | [23:21] |
assbot | A few things. I was not planning on getting involved in this conversation, but s... | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXb90p ) | [23:21] |
decimation | "A few things. I was not planning on getting involved in this conversation, but since dang decided to un-flag it, I'm going to leave one or two comments, but don't plan on sticking around very much. " | [23:21] |
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decimation | This Steve Klabnik guy obviously calls shots on HN, and is also a left-wing radical. Apparently he was also among those who protested yarvin on twitter. | [23:22] |
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BingoBoingo | I'm just wondering... How the fuck does one get labeled too conservative for a conference in Missouri? | [23:23] |
decimation | BingoBoingo: that's what I thought | [23:24] |
decimation | link from the thread: http://pando.com/2015/02/04/the-geometry-of-censorship-and-satire/ < "horizontal censorship" | [23:25] |
assbot | The geometry of censorship and satire | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXbvnK ) | [23:25] |
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mircea_popescu | decimation who is steve klabnik and why would anyone care ? | [23:46] |
decimation | apparently he's among those who 'influenced' the guy in charge of this conference in st louis | [23:48] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.infoq.com/resource/presentations/API-Open/en/mediumimage/Stevebig.jpg << no, nevermind. | [23:48] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1eXcTa1 ) | [23:48] |
decimation | in order to convince him to blackball yarvin from the conference | [23:48] |
decimation | interestingly the guy who is organizing the conference apparently works on clojure | [23:51] |
cazalla | why do those guys always look the same | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla for the same reason starlets generally look the same. | [23:51] |
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